/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/05/05/#ubuntu-ops.txt

Seeker`elky: hi, btw :)00:01
elkyshort hi00:02
* LjL thinks "icecream" is a perfectly valid word for "gelato" in english00:02
elkyif you dont mind that gelato is not like conventional icecream00:05
LjLis it not?00:06
elkynope. ask your sister how icecream differs from gelato.00:06
bazhangnot the same at all.00:06
bazhanggelato is yuck for starters.00:07
elkygelato is way sweeter and less creamy00:07
LjLelky, the "ice cream" article on wikipedia seems to describe gelato.00:07
LjLhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelato basically says "it's gelato with a different name that is used in italy"00:08
elkyread the second paragraph of the icecream page00:09
mneptokLjL: "sorbet" is more an English equivalent00:10
mneptok*shrug*00:10
LjLthere is a word "sorbetto" in italian00:10
LjLand it's not the same as gelato at all00:10
LjL"sorbetto" has no milky components, "gelato" does00:10
mneptokLjL: there is the word "food" in English, and Italians find it to be heresy ;)00:11
LjL"cibo"?00:11
LjLsubstance apt or adaptable to be eaten?00:11
mneptok"Big Mac? FOOD?! Cosa tu fai?"00:11
LjLthat something is "food" doesn't automatically make it a good idea to put it in your body.00:12
LjLunless you have no other choices.00:12
Seeker`@bansearch willie__00:12
ubottuNo matches found for willie__!*@* in any channel00:12
bazhang#ubuntu-gaming is an official channel ?00:12
LjLnevertheless, it is food00:12
LjLbazhang: i remember something about it.00:12
LjLin other words, we probably were at some time aware of its existence, and didn't kill it.00:13
bazhangLjL, someone is asking about it in -irc00:13
LjLi know00:13
elkywell, off to work i go00:23
Seeker`have fnu00:23
macomr_bo_jangles just pasted some long string of escape sequences in #ubuntu00:45
Seeker`yeah00:45
Seeker`setreuid(geteuid, geteuid) + execve(/bin/sh)00:45
Seeker`any idea what that would do?00:45
macomanpages...lets see...00:46
Seeker`(I was just looking in to it)00:46
LjLhah00:46
macowhat? manpages-dev is a useful package00:46
LjLno, i was just laughing about the string itself00:46
Seeker`'m guessing that it opens a "root" shell00:47
macothat's what i would guess too00:47
macobut it looks like it's C so just executing it on the cli shouldn't do anything....right?00:47
LjLyeah i'm also guessing it doesn't unless you actually compile it, though00:47
LjLprobably taken from some buffer exploit00:47
LjLnot very useful by itself00:48
macogeteuid is the UID of the calling process00:48
Seeker`http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/627200:48
macosets the real user id to match the effective user id00:48
macoLinux: If the real user ID is set or the effective user ID is set to  a00:50
maco       value  not  equal  to  the previous real user ID, the saved set-user-ID00:50
maco       will be set to the new effective user ID.00:50
macoso i dont *think* it can change the uid that way00:50
Seeker`xray7224 complained to mr_bo_jangles when I kicked him00:50
Seeker`(kicked xray7224)00:50
LjLoh lord sebsebseb made his own channel00:59
LjLshould have expected it00:59
Seeker`billisnice: how can we hlep you?01:04
billisniceis this ubuntu?01:04
LjLwhat does the name suggest?01:05
billisnicenot sure, i been lost for a few days  lol01:05
LjLhave you followed the instructions to fix the router issue?01:06
billisnicehow do i set up chatzilla to get ubuntu? i get it says =-= YOU are now known as billisnice2  but there is no one in the room buy me01:06
LjLif so, have you asked the bots for a test?01:06
billisnicei did and keep getting [error]01:06
LjL[error]?01:07
LjLcare to try again please?01:07
billisniceConnection to irc://irc.example.org/ (irc://irc.example.org/) timed out. [Help] Reconnecting in 8 minutes. [Cancel]01:07
billisnicestill no go01:08
billisnicei use to connect for yrs without server errors01:08
billisniceonly recently i got errors01:08
LjLi meant, care to try again *asking for a test* on the bots channel?01:08
LjLah dear watson01:09
bazhangwonder if sebsebseb will tell people to /j #mychan while he is in #ubuntu01:10
LjLbillisnice: you really need to change the port you connect to to 800101:10
bazhanghe did that before with #megworld or somesuch01:10
Seeker`aha, mr_bo_jangles was in #megworld01:10
billisnicehow do i change the port?01:10
billisnicewhat command do i type in?01:10
billisnicechatzilla01:11
LjLi don't know in chatzilla01:11
LjLhow about a real client?01:11
billisnicewhat works with windows? I have windows for work at home01:11
LjLah, windows, tricky.01:12
LjLbillisnice: try /server irc.freenode.net 800101:12
billisnicedoes not work, i get *NickServ*This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>.=-=User mode for Administrator_ is now +01:14
LjLthat doesn't mean it didn't work.01:14
LjLit simply means it's complaining that the nickname "billisnice" is already taken, and it is, by yourself.01:14
billisnicewhen i change my name to billisnice 2, it is only me in the room01:15
LjLin *what* room01:15
LjLbillisnice2 doesn't appear to be in any "room".01:16
LjLbillisnice why don't you try asking in #freenode or ##windows, perhaps someone is using chatzilla there01:17
macobillisnice: you can get XChat for Windows from http://silverex.org01:17
maco(for the record, it was the "rejecting keyboard input"  reason from my Quit message)01:17
macoLjL: i think he means he wants to be billisnice but keeps being told it's registered to someone else and so he's being kicked to billisnice201:17
billisnicei am saving xchat01:18
billisnicei will run the exe when it downloads01:18
LjLmaco: at any rate, /server is only a temporary solution that isn't really ideal.01:18
macoChatzilla probably has somewhere to put the port in the preferences01:19
macohe just hasn't found it yet01:19
LjLwell i can't help, i've never even seen chatzilla's interface01:19
bazhangits bad01:19
billisnicex chat, what do i add?01:21
macoin the xchat preferences, wherever its says 6667 with Freenode, change the 6667 to 800101:21
billisnicewhere do i start with x chat to get to ubuntu?01:22
bazhangsettings -->preferences01:22
maco....or update your router's firmware because running outdated firmware with no security patches isn't really the smartest thing to do01:22
billisnicewhat network do i use?01:22
macoirc.freenode.net port 800101:23
LjLmaco, most of those routers don't have updated firmware that fixes this issue to begin with01:23
macoor ipv6.freenode.net if you've got that :P01:23
macoLjL: really? i thought it only affected firmwares that were a few years old01:24
LjLi don't think so01:24
LjLor at least - yes, but either there's no updates for them, or the updates fix other things but not this01:24
macoyuck01:25
billisnicei give up for now01:27
billisnicei can not get x chat to work01:27
macohuh?01:31
billisnicei am to dumb for x chat01:31
billisniceunless you have good examples of how to use it somewhere01:31
macohttp://www.linuxchix.org/connecting-linuxchix-irc-using-xchat.html01:31
macowhere the directions say irc.linuxchix.org/6667 use irc.freenode.net/800101:32
billisnicemaybe we can try another time01:36
billisnicei am so confused01:36
Seeker`billisnice: if there is nothing else we can do to help, please don't idle in here01:42
LjLaaand now, sebsebseb joined the other channel too :)02:11
Seeker`"the other channel"?02:11
LjLthe one that i normally refrain from have the name of logged.02:12
PiciThe one I used to have on hilight02:12
LjLpart of the reason why i don't mention the name of it.02:13
LjLi mean - wait, not that i would mention a chance to gratuitously highlight people02:15
LjLthat's not what i meant02:15
LjLs/mention/miss/02:15
macodoes it have anything to do with a club?02:19
PiciIndeed02:19
bazhang##trollpit ?02:37
LjLit's kinda past the trollpit stage to be honest02:40
Panarchyhi03:36
Seeker`hi03:36
PanarchyI wasn't banned from #ubuntu-offtopic, yet Pici banned me from it, giving reason as 'Evading ban'03:36
PanarchyPlease allow me to connect back to it03:37
PiciI see a valid ban for you there03:37
PanarchyNope03:37
PanarchyJust the 1 you did03:37
PanarchyI can't connect to #ubuntu03:37
PanarchyI tried, then I remembered I was banned03:37
PanarchyBut I was never banned from #ubuntu-offtopic03:38
PiciI disagree. There is a ban for you there.03:38
Seeker`I can see an active ban in that channel for Panarchy 03:39
PanarchyReally? Well no one ever told me I was banned03:39
Seeker`Panarchy: you were there when you were kicked03:39
PanarchySeeker`: Probably because Pici just banned me03:39
PanarchyYes, but I was banned from evading a ban that didn't exist!03:40
Seeker`Panarchy: Set by someone other than Pici03:40
Seeker`It was set a month ago03:40
Panarchyo?03:40
PanarchyWho by?03:40
PiciPanarchy: I see enough notes for you to know that this ban is valid03:40
Panarchynup03:40
PanarchyI have a valid ban for #ubuntu03:40
PanarchyBut not for #ubuntu-offtopic03:40
PiciI'm sorry you feel that way, but I will not be removing the ban that I have set.03:40
Panarchydickhead03:41
Seeker`:/03:41
PiciThats not helping your chances either03:41
Seeker`bedtime for me03:42
bazhangnight03:42
Picigoodnight03:42
jussi01hiya maco, Did you need something?04:41
tonyyarussonixternal: What's this waffling about FLOSS involvement somehoworother I'm hearing about?  (140 chars doesn't explain much)04:45
nixternallooking to possibly get involved in a new free software project elsewhere04:46
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tonyyarussosuch as?05:09
macojussi01: no sorry...quassel just rejoined when i got back on the computer, sorry05:23
phixhey, I still seem to be banned, it isn't 2 days yet?05:42
phixLjL: <305:42
mneptok@btlogin06:58
mneptok@login06:59
ubottuThe operation succeeded.06:59
mneptokphix: the removal of bans is dependent on attitude and a sense that behavior will not be repeated, not time.07:01
* mneptok prods phix 07:04
mneptokwell, since you you're not listening ...07:08
Chr|shey folks, anyone here use irssi?08:37
Chr|show do you op yourselves? I am trying to op/deop myself in my channel, but I am unable to use the /op and /deop command08:37
jussi01Chr|s: /msg chanserv op #channel nickname08:43
jussi01you alias it...08:43
evilGaryChr|s: I have a alias - op quote cs op $C08:43
jussi01evilGary: oh hai 08:44
evilGaryand cs is also alias'd to msg chanserv08:44
evilGaryif you do not put a nickname, it tries to op you, this way my alias can op others via /op nick08:45
Chr|sI just binded  two buttongs that I can't type in here now lol08:45
Chr|show do I do an alias08:45
evilGaryChr|s: /alias op quote chanserv op $C08:45
Chr|sahh ok :) 08:47
Chr|swill that deop as well?08:49
evilGarythis will add that /alias deop quote chanserv op $C -$N08:52
topylii'm lazy, so i just use auto_bleh.pl, or chanserv.py in xchat08:53
evilGaryI prefer to know what I am doing, even if it is all wrong08:54
topyliignorance is bliss!08:55
evilGarystupidity is better08:55
topylitrue true08:55
Chr|s:)09:10
ikoniamorning 09:10
Chr|sone more question, I binded the number one and two keys to op and deop, now I can't use them whatsoever, how do I delete the binds without being able to actually press number one or two :(09:11
ikoniaChr|s: try #irrsi 09:12
Chr|salright just thought id ask here since I had a question how ops op and deop using irssi09:14
MyrttiChr|s: http://myrtti.fi/temp/irssialias.txt09:14
ikonia#irssi is the best place for irssi support09:14
Myrttialso...09:14
Myrttihttp://koti.phnet.fi/~laxstrom/page/eng/irssi09:14
Chr|sMyrtti: thanks09:15
Myrttianything else?09:16
ikoniaLjL: ping09:18
jussi01ikonia: ping09:43
ikoniajussi01: pong09:46
jussi01ikonia: pm09:47
zhxkhello, may i ask in #ubuntu now?09:49
zhxkhello, may i ask in #ubuntu now? anybody help me taggle off the targ?09:56
elkylet me refresh my memory09:56
zhxkthanks, ok now?09:58
elkyno, i'm still looking up what you did09:58
zhxkwell, trivial joke09:59
Myrttiin the totally wrong place09:59
ikoniathe ban dodging is my issue10:00
ikoniapersistntly may I add10:01
elkyyes, i'm seeing that too10:01
ikoniaI have pm history that shows ths "I didn't know I was doing it" is a lies 10:01
ikoniathat is my main issue10:01
elkyikonia, he's even dodged your current #u ban twice10:03
zhxkwell, you've said come here in a week, i think it's time now10:03
elkyzhxk, no, you broke rules *yesterday*10:03
ikoniaelky: I was aware of once, 10:03
ikoniareally, 10:03
zhxkwhat rules?10:03
zhxkit must be a mistake10:04
elkyzhxk, 'no ban dodging' is a rule. you broke that repeatedly.10:04
zhxkhow would cause a ban dodging?10:05
elkywhen you use a different internet connection10:06
zhxken, so in a week again?10:07
elkyno, two weeks this time.10:08
elkyyou must not even try to join #ubuntu until two weeks from now.10:08
zhxkwell, do me a favor to band that connections too, so that a unconsciously mistake wont happen10:10
elkyzhxk, are you even using ubuntu? your screenshot posted yesterday does not look like it.10:11
zhxki have many distro on the pc, i'll give you the screenshot to ubuntu immediately10:12
elkyzhxk, stop asking for support for the other distros in ubuntu channels.10:13
elkyhttp://imagebin.ca/view/uyvPo7.html <-- this is not ubuntu. it is *not* appropriate to ask for a fix in #ubuntu. at all.10:13
zhxkhttp://imagebin.ca/view/H0xe2TmC.html10:14
elkyzhxk, i did not ask for a screenshot.10:15
elkyzhxk, i want you to understand that #ubuntu is not the right place to ask for help with Other distros.10:15
zhxkwell, someguy says that that tool is made for ubuntu as there is a red circle beside the "help"10:16
elkyzhxk, just because applications exist in both Ubuntu and Debian does not mean we support Debian's version of them. Debian is not Ubuntu. We do not support software they distribute.10:19
zhxki had been asking that question in it's own distro channel. but someguy said that probably it's made by a member of ubuntu team, so i have to do that10:19
ikoniathere is a whole web of miss-communication here as the last questions you where asking about was building an arm-tools chain for cross-lfs 10:19
elkyzhxk, that guy was lying.10:19
ikoniaagain - that is nothing to do with ubuntu 10:20
zhxkwell, ubuntu have the same problem10:20
ikoniaI think you may not have a clear definition of what IS ubuntu and what isn't part of ubuntu10:21
ikoniazhxk: ubuntu doesn't have a problem with it10:21
zhxkwelldone, someone just fixed it10:22
elkyzhxk, when you boot into debian, it will not be fixed.10:23
zhxkwell, before to mail, i've checked it on ubuntu, that problem really exists10:24
zhxkmaybe it was fixed by a mindless update 10:25
zhxkwell, there is another problem that i want to ask, sshd stops as soon as i left gnome to gdm10:26
Flannelzhxk: This is not an appropriate place for support questions.10:27
ikoniazhxk: I will spell this out for you - did you try to get into #ubuntu the other day - get an error that you "cannot join the channel because you are banned" ?10:30
zhxkFlannel:i can't join #ubuntu10:30
Flannelzhxk: That doesn't mean you can be offtopic in other channels.10:31
ikoniaactually, I'll not step on elky's toes and back away 10:32
elkyikonia, no, please continue10:32
zhxkikonia:even that casual try should be punished also?10:32
ikoniazhxk: answer the question10:33
ikoniazhxk: did you get a message that says "cannot join channel you are banned" 10:33
zhxkyup10:34
ikoniazhxk: did you then try to get into the channel changing your nicname and ip address ?10:34
zhxkwell, i havn't intently evade the ban since our last talk10:36
ikoniazhxk: yes or no - did you change your nickname and IP address to join #ubuntu 10:36
elkyzhxk, when you were banned, did you use a different computer to connect?10:36
zhxkwell, i always use this nick name eversince, though today get another nick so called zhxk` cause i didn't mentioned that another client app is running10:38
ikoniazhxk: did myself / stew not explain to you that trying to join a channel you are banned from is called "ban evading" and is bad 10:39
elkyzhxk, how often do you restart your modem?10:39
zhxkwell, once uncautiously noticed that it's ok to join #ubuntu on ubuntu, but quite immediately as our assumpsit10:41
elkyzhxk, how do you connect to the internet?10:41
ikoniaactually I'm going to put an end to this now10:42
zhxkadsl10:42
ikonia1.) you have been banned - yet you still keep trying to connect10:42
ikonia2.) stew / myself has explained what ban dodging is 10:42
ikonia3.) your IP range is all over the place - so you are not connecting from one place you are trying multiple networks to get around bans10:42
ikonia4.) you change your nickname bush/george/zhxk' zhxk_ to get around bans10:43
ikoniayou %100 know what you are doing - as you are talking about advanced topics like arm cross compiling10:43
zhxkI quit immediately after realised that, really10:43
ikoniaso therefore I can only assume you are doing this on purpose10:43
ikoniaI have nothing more to say on the matter as I am confident your behavioru is intentional 10:44
ikoniabehaviour10:44
elkyi agree. we've given him enough chances, yet he still misuses the channels as recently as yesterday10:46
zhxkwell, it's undeserved10:47
zhxkzhxk_ may bcause the client atuto choosed for try while zhxk is unsuccessful10:48
elkyzhxk, that does not excuse the ip change.10:50
zhxkip change is just because anoter dial to adsl10:51
elkywhy did it need another dial?10:52
zhxkdunno the serious result yet before your explaination10:53
elkywhat explanation?10:54
zhxkit's not good to evade a ban10:55
elkyyou've already had that explained to you many times.10:56
Myrttiis this getting anywhere?10:57
MyrttiI think it's not10:57
Myrttizhxk: welcome back in two weeks.10:57
zhxkMyrtti:okay, it's deserved10:57
ubottuDJones called the ops in #ubuntu (gast)10:58
jussi01heh10:58
elkyzhxk, you should not stay in this channel for the two weeks.10:59
zhxkbefore that i may have solved the just-found problem elsewhere10:59
Myrttischule.bremen...10:59
Myrttizhxk: good for you10:59
zhxkokay, good for you also10:59
Myrttizhxk: again, welcome back in two weeks10:59
zhxkthanks you11:00
Myrttiuntil then, please leave the channel11:00
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/164815/11:00
Myrttifeel free to clear out any bans you consider unneeded11:01
ikonialindbohm.freenode.net /mode -b [c0re]!*@*11:01
ikoniadidn't want that to go11:01
elkyikonia, reinstate it then11:02
ikoniaI think I must have been in a coma, as there are modes of me remocing panarchy/curtis and others11:02
ikoniaand fujisan11:02
Myrttiikonia: lolwhut?11:03
elkythat's panarchy's name?11:04
Myrttiikonia: that list is just bans from #ubuntu11:04
evilGarythere is my one11:04
Myrttiit's made so that if you want to, you can easily check which bans are yours and remove them after you've checked them11:04
ikonia67 ikonia /mode -b panarchy!*@*11:04
ikoniadid I do that ?/?11:04
Myrttiikonia: no?11:04
ikoniaooh wait11:04
ikoniaI see what you've done11:04
Myrttias I said...11:04
ikoniaI'm not in a coma - just stupid11:05
ikoniaMyrtti: nice formatting11:05
Myrttinot stupid, just a bit slow11:05
evilGaryI'm stupid11:05
evilGarynice pastebin Myrtti 11:05
MyrttievilGary: takes only two aliases in irssi and one sed/awk script in bash ;-)11:06
Myrttiif you want that in plaintext, then add plain after the UID11:06
ikoniashould we just clean up the floodbot ones in genera l?11:07
ikoniaI can see a fair few that can be cleaned down from floodbots11:07
Myrttiikonia: I think someone would need to check how old they are11:07
Myrttiand also clear the bans with -monitor11:07
ikoniayup 11:07
ikoniaseems sensible11:07
MyrttiI don't know what's the best way of doing that so I've never done it11:08
elkyhrm... i am lacking drinkable things here... and icecream11:08
elkymore importantly, icecream11:08
* Myrtti huggles jussi01 11:08
ikoniaMyrtti: I'll see if a bit of sed and bc magic will work it out from the ban list11:08
Myrttiikonia: or date -d11:10
Myrttimyrtti@reipas:~$ date -d "8 months ago"11:10
MyrttiFri Sep  5 13:10:32 EEST 200811:10
ikoniaslicker11:11
Myrtti(learnt that today)11:11
ikoniaadding _ to the end of the nick doesn't get you around your ban ;)11:28
bullgard5In #ubuntu-de steht im Topic: " News: Jaunty/9.04 ist draussen." Bitte ändern in "Die neueste freigegebene Ubuntu-Version ist Jaunty/9.04."11:49
ikoniabullgard5: ?11:53
ikoniabullgard5: what's up?11:53
bullgard5ikonia: For German eyes only. :-)11:53
ikoniabullgard5: ok - but what is the problem you need help with ?11:54
bullgard5ikonia: I cannot change the topic of the channel #ubuntu-de myself. The topic is outdated.11:55
ikoniabullgard5: ok, so speak to one of the operators of that channel , or ask in #ubuntu-irc if one of the operators is available11:55
bullgard5Did I not speak to the operators of that channel by placing a message here?11:56
ikoniano11:57
ikonia#ubuntu-irc is for loco operators11:57
bullgard5Well, I see. I will turn to #ubuntu-irc.11:58
ikoniathanks11:58
bullgard5But there is none German speaking name listet at the moment.11:59
ikoniabullgard5: how do you know there are no german operators in that channel ?12:00
bullgard5I looked up the name list.12:00
ikoniawhere ?12:00
bullgard5in #ubuntu-irc12:00
ikoniaso how do you know none of them are ubuntu-de operators ?12:01
bullgard5By matching the entries in that list with those active in #ubuntu-de.12:02
ikoniabullgard5: the opertors don't have to be active in channels, check the access list from chanserve with "access #ubuntu-de list" 12:02
ikoniabullgard5: everything sorted ?12:06
Myrttibullgard5: hello?12:21
bullgard5hello12:21
Myrttibullgard5: did you need help with anything else?12:22
bullgard5no12:23
Myrtti!idle | bullgard5 12:28
ubottubullgard5: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.12:28
ikoniahe never asked in #ubuntu-irc12:34
elkyi think the de ops have their own channel.. not sure12:38
ikoniaoh really, I didn't know that12:39
elkyhrm, no. unless 'verein' is something like that12:39
elky'verein' means 'organisation' or 'joint' so i suspect it's appropriate12:40
elkyi'm surprised we havent seen much cinco de mayo trouble this year12:45
elkyi suspect those'll hit later in the mexican day12:46
Piciola12:54
ikoniahello12:58
ikoniaLjL: is MIA today 13:14
Piciikonia: panarchy returned last night13:15
PiciWas in -offtopic on a mibbit login, refused to acknowledge that he was evading a ban. Too bad for him.13:16
ikoniaPici: yes, I wanted to talk to ljl about how/why the floodbots excepted him13:17
ikoniaexcempted even 13:17
ikoniahe got into ubuntu using mibbit with the nick panarchy which I thought the floodbots would see in the db and not let him in 13:17
ikoniahopefully ljl will give me a bot lesson when he's next free13:18
popeyno bots?13:30
popeyhittt is giving duff advice13:30
ikonialooking now13:37
ikonia!ping13:38
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore13:38
popeygetting a bit of sillyness from hitt with rm13:38
ikoniayeah, I'mn on it13:38
ikoniaPricey: who was that you did ?13:40
Priceyaq RedMachineD 13:41
ubottuBodsda called the ops in #ubuntu (TheZanke)13:41
ikoniacool13:41
ikoniaon it13:41
PriceyWonder where they're from.13:42
ikoniadunno, but it's a tag team effort13:42
elkyikonia, he returned quick... did you get him in PM?13:43
Priceymrefg is suspect... i think he's just playing it slow?13:43
ikoniaelky: who ?13:43
ikoniaPricey: concur, 13:43
popeyagreed13:44
* Pricey resists jokes about australia's internet & dialup13:44
ikoniaha13:44
popeyi smell troll13:44
PiciUgh. I go away for a few minutes...13:44
Priceypopey: i'm sorry i didn't mean it!13:44
* popey wafts13:45
Picielky jinxed us.13:45
Priceyhmm !support has changed lately?13:46
Priceyor am i just slow on that one13:46
ikoniaok - normality is back I think13:48
popeyheh13:48
Priceyindus: is next on my list13:49
ikoniaget in the queue 13:49
ikoniaI had him at the top of mine13:50
ikoniahackoidz ...any bets ?13:51
bazhangyep13:51
ikoniaPricey: check out nirc13:52
Priceyikonia: hmm?13:53
ikonianirc = posting porn links13:53
ikoniamultiple channels by th elook13:53
PriceyI only have 5 minutes.13:53
ikoniacan't be certain, hence check it out13:53
ikoniarubbish !13:53
ikoniano problem13:54
PriceyQuit.13:54
ikoniagone anyway, he was on the aussie network too, looks like there is an aussie troll pit somewhere13:54
* ikonia suggests #panarchy ?13:54
ikonia;)13:54
Priceybah really?13:55
ikonianah, #panarchy was me kidding13:55
ikoniabut it does look like aussie's are having a play day 13:55
PriceyI'm off. Good luck, staffers are about though hopefully they've moved on now.13:57
ikonialooks better now13:57
ikoniathanks13:57
ikoniaanother aussie gone13:58
bazhanglong time arch troll13:58
ikoniaoh really13:58
ikoniaI wonder if they are all in arch13:58
popeynot in archlinux-offtopic13:59
popeyfirst place I looked13:59
bazhangI would set a ban next time jellygen starts up 13:59
ikoniahe's banned now13:59
popeyahh, jelly is13:59
ikoniaproblem solved13:59
ikonia#archlinux-offtopic13:59
ikoniathey are discussing it now14:00
bazhanghe has an odd way of showing up right when trolls attack14:00
ikoniathey are chatting about it in #archlinux-offtopic14:00
bazhangwonder if mrefg was MrElendig14:01
ikonia@bansearch TheZanke14:02
ubottuMatch: *!*@c-69-245-202-107.hsd1.in.comcast.net by Pricey in #ubuntu on May 05 2009 12:41:31 (ID: 13171)14:02
* genii sips14:25
geniiI see there was more talk about the 4chan thing.14:26
elkydear 4chan, please die. preferably painfully. no love, elky.14:30
Pici+114:31
genii-konvMy Quassel seem on the fritz again today, apologies14:32
* genii-konv pokes at jussi01_14:36
genii-konvOK I'll try my usual nick again and see if stable yet....14:53
* genii sips14:53
geniiHm. Trying to sort out my buffer views (my channel lists aren't showing properly). May be bouncing from /away and /back for a bit15:05
genii-konvGah.15:19
genii-konv@time helsinki15:20
genii-konvAh, right, doesn't work here15:20
genii-konvBack shortly15:27
topyligenii decided to fly to helsinki, see what time it is15:27
Picitsimpson: Looks like ubottu has been having trouble grabbing bug info from Launchpad as of late.  Is this a bot issue or something with launchpad?15:28
ikoniaPici: I think it's had dbopen() function problems in general 15:28
ikoniaPici: I'm wondering if that's why it missed panarchy and a few others15:28
Piciikonia: ubottu, not floodbot15:29
tsimpsonPici: it's launchpad timing out as far as I can tell, I haven't changed the code for Bugtracker in months15:29
ikoniaPici: ahhh15:29
Piciikonia: And it didn't miss panarchy, he was in -offtopic, there are no floodbots there.15:29
ikoniaPici: he joined ubuntu too15:29
ikonia03:42 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+e panarchy!i=cb37e1fe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b222d53c10995f0] by FloodBot215:29
Piciikonia: If cb37e1fe doesnt corrispond to the ip that was banned, the floodbot doesn't know any better.15:30
ikoniaPici: what about the name ban15:30
ikoniaas in nick ban15:30
Piciikonia: I wan't aware one was in place.15:30
topyligenii: 17:3015:31
ikonia03:42 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+e panarchy!i=cb37e1fe@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1b222d53c10995f0] by FloodBot215:31
genii-aroundtopyli: ?15:31
ikoniaoops15:31
ikoniasorry15:31
ikonia#ubuntu panarchy!*@*  15:31
ikoniathat's in place15:31
topyli17:20 < genii-kon> @time helsinki15:31
PiciThats a bug then15:32
genii-aroundtopyli: Ah, thanks. Trying to deduce when jussi might be awake/here/working on current prob with server. 15:33
genii-aroundIs other stuff down like BT too?15:33
tsimpsonfwiw, there is a +viewstatus for bugs in LP which is often quicker to load, but it's HTML only, currently it uses +text15:33
tsimpsongenii-around: only jussi01.com is down15:34
genii-aroundtsimpson: OK, thanks15:34
tsimpsonand I haven't gotten around to making @time work for non-identified users yet15:35
tsimpson@time helsinki15:35
ubottuCurrent time in Europe/Helsinki: May 05 2009, 17:35:3715:35
Picisupybot can be annoying sometimes15:35
tsimpsons/can be/is/ ; s/ sometimes//15:36
topylihehe15:36
tsimpsonit's just not complex enough, which is probably a good thing for 99% of use cases15:37
tsimpsonbut we are in that 1%15:37
PiciI was just trying to get it to store the last requested query for a weather plugin, and it doesn't support storing user registry values if the user isn't registered15:38
genii-aroundI have to /away probably 20-25 minutes (work)16:04
MenZaWhat's with ubottu? :(16:21
LjLMenZa: it doesn't like your face16:21
PiciI told it to restart16:22
PiciBut then it saw MenZa :/16:22
tsimpsonthere was (for some reason) 4 instances of it running...16:22
Picier16:22
* LjL eyes pici16:22
PiciThe restart page said that it couldnt find a running process.16:22
PiciLjL: I only started it once16:23
tsimpsonbecause I killed them all (MU-HA-HA-HA)16:23
PiciI know better then to mash on a button to make something start16:23
PiciThats only a last resort <.<16:23
LjLPici: do you?16:23
LjLah, i say16:23
LjLalthough the actual last resort is mashing on the *keyboard*16:23
tsimpsonsomething was up with it and the CAPAB-IDENTIFY-MSG stuff16:24
Piciodd16:24
tsimpsonI tried quitting it but it said "Not replying to +quit, not a command"16:25
MenZaPici→ :(16:25
* MenZa runs away crying.16:25
tsimpsonwhich, I know, means that it's not interpreting the +/- stuff right16:25
Picitsimpson: Thanks for restarting :)16:30
tsimpson:)16:31
Picitsimpson: While you're at it, could you get ubottu out of -bugs?16:32
tsimpsonubottu: part #ubuntu-bugs16:32
ubottuThe operation succeeded.16:33
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:33
PiciThanks again16:33
LjLtsimpson: and while you're at it, could you get bugs out of ubottu as well?16:33
* tsimpson thinks about it...16:34
tsimpsonumm, no :)16:34
LjLfair enough16:34
PiciThose bugs are what give ubottu her character16:34
tsimpsonthere actually aren't that many "bugs"16:35
tsimpsonmostly just things that are missing/wanted16:35
* genii-around prods jussi01 experimentally with a spoon18:11
jussi01genii-around: had a few networkm probs today - up again now18:14
genii-aroundjussi01: OK, I'll swap back to Quassel shortly....18:19
* genii sips experimentally18:22
geniiMuch better :)18:23
* stew tries to figure out why joeyy is lighting up his /hilight18:36
Piciugh oh18:36
geniiWas anything aver decided on the 4chan subject?18:53
genii*ever18:53
stewdo you guys know that chat.ubuntu.com no longer resolves?18:56
stewlots of people asking about this in #freenode18:56
Piciwfm18:57
stew** server can't find chat.ubuntu.com.: NXDOMAIN from all three of ns[123].cannonical.com18:57
stewerr18:57
stewwait, am i on drugs18:57
stewignore me, these people have me confused18:57
Picistew: dig @ns1.canonical.com irc.ubuntu.com    reports that its a cname for chat.freenode.net18:59
stewyes18:59
stewi got confused there for a second18:59
stewbut we suddenly have 4 or 5 ubuntu users in #freenode not able to connect to irc.ubuntu.com, but chat.freenode.net is working for them18:59
Priceywe're looking into it19:03
PiciPricey: We as in freenode? 19:03
PriceyPici: sorry, yep.19:03
PriceyPici: but yep, use chat.freenode.net, or things like chat.us.freenode.net or chat.eu.freenode.net19:04
genii-aroundThought so19:21
genii-aroundLooks like the server issues still aren't resolved ..... 19:22
Seeker`:/19:22
genii-aroundHm19:26
jussi01_grumble!!!19:41
Picimumble?19:42
jussi01_stupid issues...19:42
Seeker`genii-around: I think all that was decided about 4chan was that jussi01 isn't impressed, LjL doesn't see a problem19:43
Pici@login19:43
ubottuThe operation succeeded.19:43
genii-aroundSeeker`: Thats sort of the impression I was left with too. Also that Pici is confused19:43
Seeker`genii-around: but then thats nothing new :P19:44
jussi01_Pici: is always confused...19:44
jussi01_:P19:44
genii-aroundHehe19:44
PiciI'm not denying it.19:44
genii-aroundjussi01_: So should I bother back to Quassel yet, or give it a while ? (while i see you here)19:47
jussi01_genii-around: wait till you see jussi01 again...19:47
genii-aroundWill do, thanks19:48
PiciOr jussi0719:48
jussi01_who the heck is jussi07?19:48
genii-aroundI've never even seen jussis 02 through 06....19:49
PiciSomeone was talking to him in -ot19:49
jussi01_hrm, someone remind me which script it is to show channel list in irssi?19:54
Picijussi01_: /window list    perhaps?19:56
jussi01_Pici: no... theres one to make the list of numbers into a list of numbers and channel names...19:57
Picijussi01_: Oh. I don't know, sorry.19:58
Seeker`adv_windowlist?19:58
jussi01_ahh, yeah that one :D19:58
PiciToo many numbers here to make into channel names anyway.19:58
genii-aroundSeems like a lot of spanish speakers run Ubuntu 19:58
genii-aroundPici: That guy asking if there's a list of all the triggers ubottu accepts.... I hope no such list actually exists!20:02
tsimpsongenii-around: there is, and it's on the web too20:03
genii-aroundAAAAAAAA20:03
tsimpson!bot20:03
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots20:03
Picigenii-around: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi20:03
tsimpson^ factoids.cgi :)20:03
genii-aroundHopefully we won't see him bot-abusing shortly after20:03
PiciHopefully.20:03
tsimpsonif you are looking at the factoids page, you don't need to trigger the bot20:04
genii-aroundThats good then.20:04
Pici!staff ^^ what 20:05
ubottustaff ^^ what is that crap? it's obstructive20:05
Picihah20:05
Picisorry, staff.20:05
genii-around?20:05
Picijust looking at factoids never requested.20:06
Piciforget 15:04:36 <genii-around> Thats good then.20:06
Piciforget reply> the edubuntu handbook 20:06
Picioops20:07
PiciSorry guys, I thought this was my ubottu window.20:07
jussi01_heh20:07
* tsimpson thinks jussi01_ is not having a good day20:09
jussi01_tsimpson: if anyone gets in my way today...20:09
Seeker`tsimpson: ping20:11
tsimpsonSeeker`: pong20:11
Seeker`can I pick your brain about bot stuff?20:11
tsimpsonif there anything left to pick, sure20:12
genii-aroundtsimpson: You should do some bot workshop in -classroom at some point20:22
genii-aroundIt's been extremely dead there since open week ended20:23
tsimpsongenii-around: maybe, but then more people will want their own bot. then more people will try to set one up, then more people will fail, then more people will ask me for help20:24
tsimpsonand that's not good20:24
genii-aroundToo bad theres just no bot to ask about building bots, at that20:25
Pici#supybot exists20:25
PiciAnd #ubuntu-bots20:25
genii-aroundHm, looks like Quassel box is back up, I got a system notice about a second authorisation on my name just now20:26
* genii-around waits to see jussi01 before trying20:27
genii-aroundtsimpson: And you are the moderator in #supybot and #ubuntu-bots ?   ;)20:29
tsimpsonjust #ubuntu-bots20:29
tsimpsonI have nothing to do with #supybot, and with the amount of time's I've slammed the code, probably never will20:30
Seeker`eggdrop is the only bot I've seen with a decent amount of documentation20:30
tsimpsonrecently the supybot website went away, so now it has even less documentation20:32
Seeker`supybot has really terrible docs, but i've at least seen python befroe so it wasn't too bad20:32
Seeker`first time looking at ruby + rbot isn't great20:32
PiciI don't know ruby at all, and my attempts to learn it have failed.  20:33
PiciI keep the supybot source at hand when making my own bot plugins20:33
tsimpsonwell, I learnt basic ruby in a couple days...20:41
genii-aroundOK, time to try Quassel again :)20:42
tsimpsonPici: have you tried the online ruby demo thing?20:42
Picitsimpson: I did once./20:43
* genii sips20:43
tsimpsonit's not too dissimilar to python20:43
tsimpsonwell, are some big differences though20:43
* genii hugs jussi0120:44
ikoniaevening20:52
Picialready?20:53
ikoniait is for me20:53
jussi01mrgh....20:57
jussi01ikonia: pm?20:57
ikoniaugh huh21:05
ubottuIn ubottu, stefg said: !ext4 is Information about the ext4 filesystem can be found at http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto21:21
ikoniaI think I'll write an ext4 wiki page if that helps out as ext4 is coming up more and more21:22
ikoniais lenin_cat known by any other nicks ?21:25
geniicommie_cary21:25
ikoniaanything else, 21:26
geniiNot that i know21:26
ompaul<ryaxnbsuse> * holmes.freenode.net sets mode +n #ubuntu-offtopix   perhaps an abuse of name space (how would I know) 21:31
ompaulcheers21:31
ikonia???21:31
ikoniano "hi"21:31
stewhi21:40
ikoniahi21:40
Seeker`hi21:40
jussi01I should be in bed21:45
jussi01but someone may want to check if this is actually correct...21:45
jussi01[23:38:57] --> ryaxnb_ (n=ryaxnb@63.249.87.215) has joined #ubuntu-offtopic21:45
jussi01[23:39:00] <ryaxnb_> hi21:45
jussi01[23:39:06] <ryaxnb_> i'm not banned anymore?21:45
Seeker`jussi01: TurtlePie told ryaxnb that he was a nwe admin, and that he had just banned him21:46
Seeker`that was my understanding anyway21:46
jussi01oh... I just glanced21:46
Seeker`cant see anything particularly meaningful on the BT21:48
ikoniaI think bazhang mentioned something about him21:50
Seeker`4 kicks over 4 months21:52
ikoniaLjL: you're active, got a moment22:46
LjLsaying i'm active is a very bold statement22:46
LjLbut.22:46
ikoniait can wait it's no biggy, it was only my curiosity22:47
Seeker`oooh22:48
bazhangSeeker`, still opped in #u22:48
Seeker`ty22:48
bazhangnp22:48
LjLikonia: what i was saying is i'm idly staring at the monitor. feel free to convey your data or request for information or opinion.22:48
ikoniaLjL: it was really a query about how/why a flood bot missed a ban, if it's a bug or a mistake with the ban22:49
ikoniaLjL: as you are the floodbot king....22:49
LjLikonia: timestamp or logs?22:49
ikonia03.42 am this morning in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-proxy-users22:50
LjLBST i assume22:50
ikoniayup22:50
LjLikonia: nickname involved?22:51
ikoniapanarchy22:51
bazhangoof22:51
LjLhm, i was just about to reach that conclusion, yes22:51
LjLikonia: bans by nickname are ignored by the bots22:53
LjLthey care about hosts.22:53
ikoniaso he was also connecting from a different host too22:54
ikoniaas his normal static IP is banned22:54
LjLnot sure22:54
ikoniaalso - surly the "panarchy" nick ban should have picked up even if it's mibbiet ?22:54
ikoniaas his nick was panarchy still ?22:54
LjLikonia: not when a +e gets set on it22:54
ikoniaahhh exempt of course22:54
ikoniathat makes sense now22:55
LjLIP was cb37e1fe, i just need to convert that to decimal and match that against his normal static IP.22:55
ikoniaI always thought flood bots worked on nicks's too, good to know22:55
LjLikonia: if my calculator is right, that IP is 203.55.225.254, which doesn't appear to be banned22:56
LjLalthough, erm, 254?22:56
LjLstill... yes, fe is 25422:57
ikonia220-244-120-16922:58
ikoniadifferent 22:58
LjLnot even related22:58
ikoniaLjL: thanks for explaining22:59
ikoniathat's been bugging me all day 22:59
LjLikonia: i don't think i'll fix this nickname thing in the floodbots as long as it remains an isolated case22:59
LjLikonia: easy workaround is, ban the offending nick from -proxy-users too22:59
tritiumGood afternoon!23:38
Seeker`o/23:41
tritiumHi Seeker`23:41

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