[00:01] elky: hi, btw :) [00:02] short hi [00:02] * LjL thinks "icecream" is a perfectly valid word for "gelato" in english [00:05] if you dont mind that gelato is not like conventional icecream [00:06] is it not? [00:06] nope. ask your sister how icecream differs from gelato. [00:06] not the same at all. [00:07] gelato is yuck for starters. [00:07] gelato is way sweeter and less creamy [00:07] elky, the "ice cream" article on wikipedia seems to describe gelato. [00:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelato basically says "it's gelato with a different name that is used in italy" [00:09] read the second paragraph of the icecream page [00:10] LjL: "sorbet" is more an English equivalent [00:10] *shrug* [00:10] there is a word "sorbetto" in italian [00:10] and it's not the same as gelato at all [00:10] "sorbetto" has no milky components, "gelato" does [00:11] LjL: there is the word "food" in English, and Italians find it to be heresy ;) [00:11] "cibo"? [00:11] substance apt or adaptable to be eaten? [00:11] "Big Mac? FOOD?! Cosa tu fai?" [00:12] that something is "food" doesn't automatically make it a good idea to put it in your body. [00:12] unless you have no other choices. [00:12] @bansearch willie__ [00:12] No matches found for willie__!*@* in any channel [00:12] #ubuntu-gaming is an official channel ? [00:12] nevertheless, it is food [00:12] bazhang: i remember something about it. [00:13] in other words, we probably were at some time aware of its existence, and didn't kill it. [00:13] LjL, someone is asking about it in -irc [00:13] i know [00:23] well, off to work i go [00:23] have fnu [00:45] mr_bo_jangles just pasted some long string of escape sequences in #ubuntu [00:45] yeah [00:45] setreuid(geteuid, geteuid) + execve(/bin/sh) [00:45] any idea what that would do? [00:46] manpages...lets see... [00:46] (I was just looking in to it) [00:46] hah [00:46] what? manpages-dev is a useful package [00:46] no, i was just laughing about the string itself [00:47] 'm guessing that it opens a "root" shell [00:47] that's what i would guess too [00:47] but it looks like it's C so just executing it on the cli shouldn't do anything....right? [00:47] yeah i'm also guessing it doesn't unless you actually compile it, though [00:47] probably taken from some buffer exploit [00:48] not very useful by itself [00:48] geteuid is the UID of the calling process [00:48] http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/6272 [00:48] sets the real user id to match the effective user id [00:50] Linux: If the real user ID is set or the effective user ID is set to a [00:50] value not equal to the previous real user ID, the saved set-user-ID [00:50] will be set to the new effective user ID. [00:50] so i dont *think* it can change the uid that way [00:50] xray7224 complained to mr_bo_jangles when I kicked him [00:50] (kicked xray7224) [00:59] oh lord sebsebseb made his own channel [00:59] should have expected it [01:04] billisnice: how can we hlep you? [01:04] is this ubuntu? [01:05] what does the name suggest? [01:05] not sure, i been lost for a few days lol [01:06] have you followed the instructions to fix the router issue? [01:06] how do i set up chatzilla to get ubuntu? i get it says =-= YOU are now known as billisnice2 but there is no one in the room buy me [01:06] if so, have you asked the bots for a test? [01:06] i did and keep getting [error] [01:07] [error]? [01:07] care to try again please? [01:07] Connection to irc://irc.example.org/ (irc://irc.example.org/) timed out. [Help] Reconnecting in 8 minutes. [Cancel] [01:08] still no go [01:08] i use to connect for yrs without server errors [01:08] only recently i got errors [01:08] i meant, care to try again *asking for a test* on the bots channel? [01:09] ah dear watson [01:10] wonder if sebsebseb will tell people to /j #mychan while he is in #ubuntu [01:10] billisnice: you really need to change the port you connect to to 8001 [01:10] he did that before with #megworld or somesuch [01:10] aha, mr_bo_jangles was in #megworld [01:10] how do i change the port? [01:10] what command do i type in? [01:11] chatzilla [01:11] i don't know in chatzilla [01:11] how about a real client? [01:11] what works with windows? I have windows for work at home [01:12] ah, windows, tricky. [01:12] billisnice: try /server irc.freenode.net 8001 [01:14] does not work, i get *NickServ* This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify . =-= User mode for Administrator_ is now + [01:14] that doesn't mean it didn't work. [01:14] it simply means it's complaining that the nickname "billisnice" is already taken, and it is, by yourself. [01:15] when i change my name to billisnice 2, it is only me in the room [01:15] in *what* room [01:16] billisnice2 doesn't appear to be in any "room". [01:17] billisnice why don't you try asking in #freenode or ##windows, perhaps someone is using chatzilla there [01:17] billisnice: you can get XChat for Windows from http://silverex.org [01:17] (for the record, it was the "rejecting keyboard input" reason from my Quit message) [01:17] LjL: i think he means he wants to be billisnice but keeps being told it's registered to someone else and so he's being kicked to billisnice2 [01:18] i am saving xchat [01:18] i will run the exe when it downloads [01:18] maco: at any rate, /server is only a temporary solution that isn't really ideal. [01:19] Chatzilla probably has somewhere to put the port in the preferences [01:19] he just hasn't found it yet [01:19] well i can't help, i've never even seen chatzilla's interface [01:19] its bad [01:21] x chat, what do i add? [01:21] in the xchat preferences, wherever its says 6667 with Freenode, change the 6667 to 8001 [01:22] where do i start with x chat to get to ubuntu? [01:22] settings -->preferences [01:22] ....or update your router's firmware because running outdated firmware with no security patches isn't really the smartest thing to do [01:22] what network do i use? [01:23] irc.freenode.net port 8001 [01:23] maco, most of those routers don't have updated firmware that fixes this issue to begin with [01:23] or ipv6.freenode.net if you've got that :P [01:24] LjL: really? i thought it only affected firmwares that were a few years old [01:24] i don't think so [01:24] or at least - yes, but either there's no updates for them, or the updates fix other things but not this [01:25] yuck [01:27] i give up for now [01:27] i can not get x chat to work [01:31] huh? [01:31] i am to dumb for x chat [01:31] unless you have good examples of how to use it somewhere [01:31] http://www.linuxchix.org/connecting-linuxchix-irc-using-xchat.html [01:32] where the directions say irc.linuxchix.org/6667 use irc.freenode.net/8001 [01:36] maybe we can try another time [01:36] i am so confused [01:42] billisnice: if there is nothing else we can do to help, please don't idle in here [02:11] aaand now, sebsebseb joined the other channel too :) [02:11] "the other channel"? [02:12] the one that i normally refrain from have the name of logged. [02:12] The one I used to have on hilight [02:13] part of the reason why i don't mention the name of it. [02:15] i mean - wait, not that i would mention a chance to gratuitously highlight people [02:15] that's not what i meant [02:15] s/mention/miss/ [02:19] does it have anything to do with a club? [02:19] Indeed [02:37] ##trollpit ? [02:40] it's kinda past the trollpit stage to be honest [03:36] hi [03:36] hi [03:36] I wasn't banned from #ubuntu-offtopic, yet Pici banned me from it, giving reason as 'Evading ban' [03:37] Please allow me to connect back to it [03:37] I see a valid ban for you there [03:37] Nope [03:37] Just the 1 you did [03:37] I can't connect to #ubuntu [03:37] I tried, then I remembered I was banned [03:38] But I was never banned from #ubuntu-offtopic [03:38] I disagree. There is a ban for you there. [03:39] I can see an active ban in that channel for Panarchy [03:39] Really? Well no one ever told me I was banned [03:39] Panarchy: you were there when you were kicked [03:39] Seeker`: Probably because Pici just banned me [03:40] Yes, but I was banned from evading a ban that didn't exist! [03:40] Panarchy: Set by someone other than Pici [03:40] It was set a month ago [03:40] o? [03:40] Who by? [03:40] Panarchy: I see enough notes for you to know that this ban is valid [03:40] nup [03:40] I have a valid ban for #ubuntu [03:40] But not for #ubuntu-offtopic [03:40] I'm sorry you feel that way, but I will not be removing the ban that I have set. [03:41] dickhead [03:41] :/ [03:41] Thats not helping your chances either [03:42] bedtime for me [03:42] night [03:42] goodnight [04:41] hiya maco, Did you need something? [04:45] nixternal: What's this waffling about FLOSS involvement somehoworother I'm hearing about? (140 chars doesn't explain much) [04:46] looking to possibly get involved in a new free software project elsewhere === BlackKnight is now known as UdontKnow [05:09] such as? [05:23] jussi01: no sorry...quassel just rejoined when i got back on the computer, sorry [05:42] hey, I still seem to be banned, it isn't 2 days yet? [05:42] LjL: <3 [06:58] @btlogin [06:59] @login [06:59] The operation succeeded. [07:01] phix: the removal of bans is dependent on attitude and a sense that behavior will not be repeated, not time. [07:04] * mneptok prods phix [07:08] well, since you you're not listening ... [08:37] hey folks, anyone here use irssi? [08:37] how do you op yourselves? I am trying to op/deop myself in my channel, but I am unable to use the /op and /deop command [08:43] Chr|s: /msg chanserv op #channel nickname [08:43] you alias it... [08:43] Chr|s: I have a alias - op quote cs op $C [08:44] evilGary: oh hai [08:44] and cs is also alias'd to msg chanserv [08:45] if you do not put a nickname, it tries to op you, this way my alias can op others via /op nick [08:45] I just binded two buttongs that I can't type in here now lol [08:45] how do I do an alias [08:45] Chr|s: /alias op quote chanserv op $C [08:47] ahh ok :) [08:49] will that deop as well? [08:52] this will add that /alias deop quote chanserv op $C -$N [08:53] i'm lazy, so i just use auto_bleh.pl, or chanserv.py in xchat [08:54] I prefer to know what I am doing, even if it is all wrong [08:55] ignorance is bliss! [08:55] stupidity is better [08:55] true true [09:10] :) [09:10] morning [09:11] one more question, I binded the number one and two keys to op and deop, now I can't use them whatsoever, how do I delete the binds without being able to actually press number one or two :( [09:12] Chr|s: try #irrsi [09:14] alright just thought id ask here since I had a question how ops op and deop using irssi [09:14] Chr|s: http://myrtti.fi/temp/irssialias.txt [09:14] #irssi is the best place for irssi support [09:14] also... [09:14] http://koti.phnet.fi/~laxstrom/page/eng/irssi [09:15] Myrtti: thanks [09:16] anything else? [09:18] LjL: ping [09:43] ikonia: ping [09:46] jussi01: pong [09:47] ikonia: pm [09:49] hello, may i ask in #ubuntu now? [09:56] hello, may i ask in #ubuntu now? anybody help me taggle off the targ? [09:56] let me refresh my memory [09:58] thanks, ok now? [09:58] no, i'm still looking up what you did [09:59] well, trivial joke [09:59] in the totally wrong place [10:00] the ban dodging is my issue [10:01] persistntly may I add [10:01] yes, i'm seeing that too [10:01] I have pm history that shows ths "I didn't know I was doing it" is a lies [10:01] that is my main issue [10:03] ikonia, he's even dodged your current #u ban twice [10:03] well, you've said come here in a week, i think it's time now [10:03] zhxk, no, you broke rules *yesterday* [10:03] elky: I was aware of once, [10:03] really, [10:03] what rules? [10:04] it must be a mistake [10:04] zhxk, 'no ban dodging' is a rule. you broke that repeatedly. [10:05] how would cause a ban dodging? [10:06] when you use a different internet connection [10:07] en, so in a week again? [10:08] no, two weeks this time. [10:08] you must not even try to join #ubuntu until two weeks from now. [10:10] well, do me a favor to band that connections too, so that a unconsciously mistake wont happen [10:11] zhxk, are you even using ubuntu? your screenshot posted yesterday does not look like it. [10:12] i have many distro on the pc, i'll give you the screenshot to ubuntu immediately [10:13] zhxk, stop asking for support for the other distros in ubuntu channels. [10:13] http://imagebin.ca/view/uyvPo7.html <-- this is not ubuntu. it is *not* appropriate to ask for a fix in #ubuntu. at all. [10:14] http://imagebin.ca/view/H0xe2TmC.html [10:15] zhxk, i did not ask for a screenshot. [10:15] zhxk, i want you to understand that #ubuntu is not the right place to ask for help with Other distros. [10:16] well, someguy says that that tool is made for ubuntu as there is a red circle beside the "help" [10:19] zhxk, just because applications exist in both Ubuntu and Debian does not mean we support Debian's version of them. Debian is not Ubuntu. We do not support software they distribute. [10:19] i had been asking that question in it's own distro channel. but someguy said that probably it's made by a member of ubuntu team, so i have to do that [10:19] there is a whole web of miss-communication here as the last questions you where asking about was building an arm-tools chain for cross-lfs [10:19] zhxk, that guy was lying. [10:20] again - that is nothing to do with ubuntu [10:20] well, ubuntu have the same problem [10:21] I think you may not have a clear definition of what IS ubuntu and what isn't part of ubuntu [10:21] zhxk: ubuntu doesn't have a problem with it [10:22] welldone, someone just fixed it [10:23] zhxk, when you boot into debian, it will not be fixed. [10:24] well, before to mail, i've checked it on ubuntu, that problem really exists [10:25] maybe it was fixed by a mindless update [10:26] well, there is another problem that i want to ask, sshd stops as soon as i left gnome to gdm [10:27] zhxk: This is not an appropriate place for support questions. [10:30] zhxk: I will spell this out for you - did you try to get into #ubuntu the other day - get an error that you "cannot join the channel because you are banned" ? [10:30] Flannel:i can't join #ubuntu [10:31] zhxk: That doesn't mean you can be offtopic in other channels. [10:32] actually, I'll not step on elky's toes and back away [10:32] ikonia, no, please continue [10:32] ikonia:even that casual try should be punished also? [10:33] zhxk: answer the question [10:33] zhxk: did you get a message that says "cannot join channel you are banned" [10:34] yup [10:34] zhxk: did you then try to get into the channel changing your nicname and ip address ? [10:36] well, i havn't intently evade the ban since our last talk [10:36] zhxk: yes or no - did you change your nickname and IP address to join #ubuntu [10:36] zhxk, when you were banned, did you use a different computer to connect? [10:38] well, i always use this nick name eversince, though today get another nick so called zhxk` cause i didn't mentioned that another client app is running [10:39] zhxk: did myself / stew not explain to you that trying to join a channel you are banned from is called "ban evading" and is bad [10:39] zhxk, how often do you restart your modem? [10:41] well, once uncautiously noticed that it's ok to join #ubuntu on ubuntu, but quite immediately as our assumpsit [10:41] zhxk, how do you connect to the internet? [10:42] actually I'm going to put an end to this now [10:42] adsl [10:42] 1.) you have been banned - yet you still keep trying to connect [10:42] 2.) stew / myself has explained what ban dodging is [10:42] 3.) your IP range is all over the place - so you are not connecting from one place you are trying multiple networks to get around bans [10:43] 4.) you change your nickname bush/george/zhxk' zhxk_ to get around bans [10:43] you %100 know what you are doing - as you are talking about advanced topics like arm cross compiling [10:43] I quit immediately after realised that, really [10:43] so therefore I can only assume you are doing this on purpose [10:44] I have nothing more to say on the matter as I am confident your behavioru is intentional [10:44] behaviour [10:46] i agree. we've given him enough chances, yet he still misuses the channels as recently as yesterday [10:47] well, it's undeserved [10:48] zhxk_ may bcause the client atuto choosed for try while zhxk is unsuccessful [10:50] zhxk, that does not excuse the ip change. [10:51] ip change is just because anoter dial to adsl [10:52] why did it need another dial? [10:53] dunno the serious result yet before your explaination [10:54] what explanation? [10:55] it's not good to evade a ban [10:56] you've already had that explained to you many times. [10:57] is this getting anywhere? [10:57] I think it's not [10:57] zhxk: welcome back in two weeks. [10:57] Myrtti:okay, it's deserved [10:58] DJones called the ops in #ubuntu (gast) [10:58] heh [10:59] zhxk, you should not stay in this channel for the two weeks. [10:59] before that i may have solved the just-found problem elsewhere [10:59] schule.bremen... [10:59] zhxk: good for you [10:59] okay, good for you also [10:59] zhxk: again, welcome back in two weeks [11:00] thanks you [11:00] until then, please leave the channel [11:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/164815/ [11:01] feel free to clear out any bans you consider unneeded [11:01] lindbohm.freenode.net /mode -b [c0re]!*@* [11:01] didn't want that to go [11:02] ikonia, reinstate it then [11:02] I think I must have been in a coma, as there are modes of me remocing panarchy/curtis and others [11:02] and fujisan [11:03] ikonia: lolwhut? [11:04] that's panarchy's name? [11:04] ikonia: that list is just bans from #ubuntu [11:04] there is my one [11:04] it's made so that if you want to, you can easily check which bans are yours and remove them after you've checked them [11:04] 67 ikonia /mode -b panarchy!*@* [11:04] did I do that ?/? [11:04] ikonia: no? [11:04] ooh wait [11:04] I see what you've done [11:04] as I said... [11:05] I'm not in a coma - just stupid [11:05] Myrtti: nice formatting [11:05] not stupid, just a bit slow [11:05] I'm stupid [11:05] nice pastebin Myrtti [11:06] evilGary: takes only two aliases in irssi and one sed/awk script in bash ;-) [11:06] if you want that in plaintext, then add plain after the UID [11:07] should we just clean up the floodbot ones in genera l? [11:07] I can see a fair few that can be cleaned down from floodbots [11:07] ikonia: I think someone would need to check how old they are [11:07] and also clear the bans with -monitor [11:07] yup [11:07] seems sensible [11:08] I don't know what's the best way of doing that so I've never done it [11:08] hrm... i am lacking drinkable things here... and icecream [11:08] more importantly, icecream [11:08] * Myrtti huggles jussi01 [11:08] Myrtti: I'll see if a bit of sed and bc magic will work it out from the ban list [11:10] ikonia: or date -d [11:10] myrtti@reipas:~$ date -d "8 months ago" [11:10] Fri Sep 5 13:10:32 EEST 2008 [11:11] slicker [11:11] (learnt that today) [11:28] adding _ to the end of the nick doesn't get you around your ban ;) [11:49] In #ubuntu-de steht im Topic: " News: Jaunty/9.04 ist draussen." Bitte ändern in "Die neueste freigegebene Ubuntu-Version ist Jaunty/9.04." [11:53] bullgard5: ? [11:53] bullgard5: what's up? [11:53] ikonia: For German eyes only. :-) [11:54] bullgard5: ok - but what is the problem you need help with ? [11:55] ikonia: I cannot change the topic of the channel #ubuntu-de myself. The topic is outdated. [11:55] bullgard5: ok, so speak to one of the operators of that channel , or ask in #ubuntu-irc if one of the operators is available [11:56] Did I not speak to the operators of that channel by placing a message here? [11:57] no [11:57] #ubuntu-irc is for loco operators [11:58] Well, I see. I will turn to #ubuntu-irc. [11:58] thanks [11:59] But there is none German speaking name listet at the moment. [12:00] bullgard5: how do you know there are no german operators in that channel ? [12:00] I looked up the name list. [12:00] where ? [12:00] in #ubuntu-irc [12:01] so how do you know none of them are ubuntu-de operators ? [12:02] By matching the entries in that list with those active in #ubuntu-de. [12:02] bullgard5: the opertors don't have to be active in channels, check the access list from chanserve with "access #ubuntu-de list" [12:06] bullgard5: everything sorted ? [12:21] bullgard5: hello? [12:21] hello [12:22] bullgard5: did you need help with anything else? [12:23] no [12:28] !idle | bullgard5 [12:28] bullgard5: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [12:34] he never asked in #ubuntu-irc [12:38] i think the de ops have their own channel.. not sure [12:39] oh really, I didn't know that [12:39] hrm, no. unless 'verein' is something like that [12:40] 'verein' means 'organisation' or 'joint' so i suspect it's appropriate [12:45] i'm surprised we havent seen much cinco de mayo trouble this year [12:46] i suspect those'll hit later in the mexican day [12:54] ola [12:58] hello [13:14] LjL: is MIA today [13:15] ikonia: panarchy returned last night [13:16] Was in -offtopic on a mibbit login, refused to acknowledge that he was evading a ban. Too bad for him. [13:17] Pici: yes, I wanted to talk to ljl about how/why the floodbots excepted him [13:17] excempted even [13:17] he got into ubuntu using mibbit with the nick panarchy which I thought the floodbots would see in the db and not let him in [13:18]