[00:00] <stefg> !backup
[00:00] <amnesiauk> ActionParsnip, nope cdrom0
[00:00] <fevel> dd
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: thats why its not working then isnt it
[00:00] <phoenixz> Right, gottit.. My X was hanging again, had to reboot.. After reboot I got the X error "EE open /dev/fb0 No such file or directory".. I selected "Start in low graphics mode for one time" which brought me to a text prompt, very nice.. So I rebooted, got same error, selected "Make new X config", had to reboot again, AGAIN got the same error, selected "Start in low graphics mode for one time" which finally got X started.. Any ideas on this one?
[00:00] <thomatwork> stefg - 8) - of course. LOL
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: the file you are trying to execute doesnt exist
[00:00] <nikkiclau> ActionParsnip: probably /media/cdrom0 which has a /media/cdrom symbolic link
[00:00] <amnesiauk> sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0
[00:01] <amnesiauk> lol that's what it said on the ubuntu page but mkay
[00:01] <amnesiauk> I'll try cdrom
[00:01] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: try gksu "/media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade"
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: then you want: gksudo sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[00:01] <amnesiauk> already tried that
[00:01] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: try gksu "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade" even*
[00:01] <h00k> rafael: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree, and then reinstall it...try that.
[00:01] <rafael> h00k gotit
[00:01] <amnesiauk> nvm
[00:02] <amnesiauk> it's working now dunno why:p
[00:02] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: :)
[00:02] <soreau> Hey, when I try to mount ntfs in ubuntu, it says that the ntfs signature is missing and it failed to mount. How can I mount ntfs in ubuntu?
[00:02] <amnesiauk> sorry
[00:02] <fevel> signature?
[00:02] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: np mate
[00:02] <amnesiauk> I tried /media between quotes
[00:02] <thomatwork> I have been stoked w/ JJ - built a "live usb stick" using unetbootin-windows-323.exe on my XP box at work - did the JJ install 64bit on my lenovo thinkpad at home, pretty much on boot up, I could watch hulu, remote into Windows servers using LogMeIn.com and anything else I needed. Freaking love it.
[00:02] <k1rbsah>  i type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  it says i already have the latest version.. i open a page that uses flash.. and it says i dont have adobe flash player 9 or higher... it is any page .. help?
[00:02] <amnesiauk> but do you guys seriously remember al those commands in linux:P?
[00:03] <k1rbsah> yes
[00:03] <k1rbsah> use then enough and you will
[00:03] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: i've been called "the rainman" when i'm fixing computers
[00:03] <nikkiclau> ;-)
[00:03] <fevel> they are user friendly to remember
[00:03] <tilinho> Hi, I need help. So, I can't to start ubuntu, I don't know, flash caps lock and scroll lock. Any ideas?
[00:03] <amnesiauk> lol
[00:04] <nikkiclau> fevel: not when you have to remember the same command with different command subsets for 3-4 different types of unixes
[00:04] <fevel> true
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: experience, plus i use CLI more thn gui due to I find it faster
[00:04] <amnesiauk> shit
[00:04] <emorris> hi, is there any way to make firestarter apply its policy to both wlan0 and eth0 rather than having to constantly change the internet device in the preferences?
[00:04] <billybigrigger> tilinho, are you running ubuntu on a laptop?
[00:04] <amnesiauk> I guess I shouldn't smoke that much weed then:P, since I forget the most of them
[00:04] <amnesiauk> :)
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: if you can master cli you get a whole bunch of power
[00:05] <amnesiauk> yup
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: i still remember them ;)
[00:05] <fevel> tilinho: are you brazillian?
[00:05] <amnesiauk> linux can be 100% text based right?
[00:05] <bc> tilinho: that is a kernel panic. do you see anything at all before the flashing?
[00:05] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, yes
[00:05] <tilinho> billybigrigger, no. I am running on desktop.
[00:05] <o_> نن
[00:05] <h00k> amnesiauk: linux is just the kernel, you can run command line apps on top of it if you want, or X (the graphical user environment)
[00:05] <tilinho> fevel: yes.
[00:05] <fevel> ubuntu-br might help
[00:05] <thomatwork> amnesiak - I don't ever smoke weed  but I know what you mean - being in MS Windows all day atrophies my brain
[00:06] <billybigrigger> tilinho, i had that problem in early alpha's of jaunty, it turned out to be my i945 chipset and my wireless card causing system lockups
[00:06] <rafael> h00k..flashplugin nonfree was NOt installed
[00:06] <stefg> !cli | amnesiauk
[00:06] <rafael> h00k i installed it...no result
[00:06] <h00k> rafael: interesting, install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:06] <amnesiauk> and the kernel arranges the communications between the hardware and software right?
[00:06] <billybigrigger> tilinho, but i was on a laptop so i doubt that you have the same problem as me
[00:06] <h00k> rafael: hrm.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: the kernel gives hardware and memory access
[00:06] <amnesiauk> ahhh okay
[00:06] <tilinho> billybigrigger: hm.. =/
[00:07] <amnesiauk> so it arranges the hardware and memory:)?
[00:07] <billybigrigger> tilinho, you could look at your logs or dmesg and see if theres any warnings or errors before the lockup
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> amnesiauk: yeah, and assigns cpu time to the threads based on their nice value
[00:07] <tilinho> billybigrigger: here, I use a desktop.
[00:07] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, 20 min remaining+-
[00:07] <amnesiauk> awesome
[00:07] <rafael> h00k do u suggest starting from scratch? uninstalling everything?
[00:07] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: alright! **crossfingers**
[00:07] <amnesiauk> :p
[00:07] <stefg> amnesiauk: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/From-PowerUp-To-Bash-Prompt-HOWTO.html might be of interest to you
[00:07] <tilinho> billybigrigger: how to look the log?
[00:07] <amnesiauk> I know a little of the terminal:p
[00:07] <h00k> rafael: nah, just lemme think for a sec
[00:07] <amnesiauk> basics
[00:07] <rafael> h00k ok
[00:08] <billybigrigger> tilinho, open a text editor and browse to /var/log
[00:08] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, if it still wont work, what could I do next?
[00:08] <amnesiauk> compile me own driver:P?
[00:08] <J-_> Currently running Jaunty. How can I get ctrl alt backspace to restart xorg like before?
[00:08] <tilinho> billybigrigger: but, the ubuntu dont start here.
[00:08] <billybigrigger> tilinho, oooh
[00:08] <mogi22> got an odd cups question, on a LAN client i want both network printers and local ones to be usable.  i can only switch btwn the 2 choices by changing ServerName directive in client.conf file in cups dir.  how do i get access to both sets of printers on the client?
[00:08] <billybigrigger> tilinho, explain "it wont start"
[00:08] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: you can check in windows if the driver's settings allow you to go to power-save mode .... if it does, and it's on then you need to turn it off ..
[00:08] <stefg> amnesiauk: just issue 'sudo invoke-rc.d ?dm stop' .... have fun then :-)
[00:09] <h00k> rafael: look in Synaptec for nswrapper
[00:09] <h00k> rafael: let me know what you have installed there
[00:09] <nikkiclau> stefg: it's his nic driver ..
[00:09] <nikkiclau> stefg: nvm
[00:09] <nikkiclau> gotcha there
[00:09] <heguru> !dontzap | J-_
[00:09] <amnesiauk> mm crap I'll grab a livecd then
[00:09] <fevel> tilinho: whats the message?
[00:10] <tilinho> billybigrigger: ubuntu dont start, stop on screen of loading.
[00:10] <tilinho> fevel: nothing.
[00:10] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: no dual-boot on the machine?
[00:10] <rizzo20__> hi everyone
[00:10] <fevel> it freezes?
[00:10] <billybigrigger> tilinho, the splash startup screen?
[00:10] <xray7224> tilinho, does it get to grub (boot loader) ?
[00:10] <rizzo20__> does enyone here speaks french?
[00:10] <tilinho> fevel: just splash caps look and scroll lock.
[00:10] <billybigrigger> tilinho, restart it and then hit alt-f2 to display the text and see what the error is
[00:10] <amnesiauk> nope
[00:10] <xray7224> rizzo20__, try #ubuntu-fr
[00:11] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: ah
[00:11] <fevel> wait
[00:11] <heguru> !fr | rizzo20__
[00:11] <stealth-> rizzo20__: there is french support in #ubuntu-fr
[00:11] <fevel> alt f2
[00:11] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau,  I was planning to emulate windows when I'm in school
[00:11] <fevel> see if it switches
[00:11] <rizzo20__> thanks
[00:11] <tilinho> billybigrigger: thats its. splash screen.
[00:11] <amnesiauk> and use ubuntu as my main os
[00:11] <thomatwork> went to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto - it is sort of freaking me out a tiny bit - like I've just stepped into the deep end of the pool with out my water wings.
[00:11] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: yeah .... that's the way to go .. :) I even play all my games on linux at home :D
[00:11] <rizzo20__> but no one there seems to be helpful tonight
[00:11] <billybigrigger> tilinho, alt-f2 will switch to text mode, so when the splash screen comes up, hit alt-f2 and look at the text, try and read it, and see if it comes up with an error
[00:11] <tilinho> billybigrigger: yeah. stop on splash screen.
[00:12] <lundh> I have run into problems creating a bootable usb-install. where is tue updated guide for that? (the syslinux-way)
[00:12] <fevel> dota runs on my linux but not on my mac
[00:12] <rafael> h00k there is nothing under nswrapper
[00:12] <tilinho> billybigrigger: ok man, thank you, i'm testing now.
[00:12] <KaiForce> which release is this?  2.6.27-11-generic
[00:12] <billybigrigger> tilinho, 10-4
[00:12] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, but is linux that complicated or isn't it?
[00:12] <h00k> rafael: ah, I'm sorry, try npwrapper
[00:12] <stefg> !version | KaiForce
[00:12] <KaiForce> if i can't identify the Ubuntu release by kernel, where can I find the release a particular machine is running?
[00:12] <xray7224> KaiForce, it hink its 8.10 before updates
[00:12] <stealth-> KaiForce: thats a kernel, not a release. Kernel is what commands linux.
[00:12] <xray7224> KaiForce, it think its 8.10 before updates
[00:12] <KaiForce> stefg thank you
[00:13] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, depends on how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go
[00:13] <Yopu> virtual boxing xp in ubuntu, anyone know any good tutorials?
[00:13] <KaiForce> stealth- i know, but wouldn't it follow that for a generic kernel you can identify the release?
[00:13] <amnesiauk> billybigrigger, as far as possible:p
[00:13] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, linux can be hard, or not, depends on your usage
[00:13] <xray7224> KaiForce, i told you
[00:13] <KaiForce> xray7224 yes thank you
[00:13] <rafael> h00k nothing there either
[00:13] <fevel> im trying to build a proxy
[00:13] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, but it gets easier with time, the more you use it on a daily basis the easier it gets
[00:13] <thomatwork> lundh: I've used unetbootin
[00:13] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: it can be truely simple, and extremely complicated ...
[00:13] <fevel> I want the best experience
[00:13] <amnesiauk> billybigrigger,  well understanding the filesystem, know where everythings located, know how everything works
[00:13] <amnesiauk> etc
[00:13] <xray7224> linux isnt hard your just not use to it
[00:13] <stealth-> KaiForce: I know, but I anticipated someone else would tell him so i told him that in case he didn't know
[00:13] <andresx> Hello everybody! I'm new here and I have a doubt... can someone help me?
[00:14] <h00k> rafael: but npwrapper is listed in about:plugins ?
[00:14] <fevel> thinking about setting up webmin or something
[00:14] <stealth-> !ask | andresx
[00:14] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, time, some/alot of reading
[00:14] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, all depends on how much you want to learn
[00:14] <amnesiauk> :)
[00:14] <spasticteapot> Rhythmbox has stopped working on my machine.
[00:14] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: takes a couple of years to dig into linux if you enjoy breaking your system for the heck of it and trying to fix it afterwards
[00:14] <xray7224> spasticteapot, run it via command line see what it says
[00:14] <thomatwork> Yopu: I am pretty new to Linux, and I just dived in. I do have a couple of yrs experience w/ VMware
[00:14] <amnesiauk> billybigrigger, quite a shame but I'm still too narrowminded cause of windows:(
[00:14] <rafael> h00k npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[00:15] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, just jump right into it, ditch windows, you'll thank yourself later...
[00:15] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, thats how I learnt everything I know so far :p
[00:15] <rafael> h00k that is on the about..yes..as the filename
[00:15] <amnesiauk> yup
[00:15] <lundh> thomatwork: unetbooting doesnt work for me for some reason
[00:15] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, if somethings broken, fix it, thats how you learn :P
[00:15] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: keep at it and you'll know a lot ..
[00:15] <spasticteapot> xray7224: It runs - it just won't play anything, similar to when I don't have a soundcard selected. I'll give it a shot, though - I might get an error message.
[00:15] <h00k> rafael: check for npwrapper.libflashplayer.so in your ~/.mozilla/plugins folder and delete it
[00:15] <billybigrigger> amnesiauk, don't give up on linux because something broke and your too lazy to fix it :P ubuntuforums.org is a great place to find info
[00:15] <KaiForce> Ok, after upgrade to intrepid on an Acer laptop, the sound works for a bit then stops working.  Is this a common issue?
[00:15] <h00k> rafael: if it exists
[00:15] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: a sysadmin i've been teaching from ground up (windows and linux), knows a lot now .. almost didn't know anything a year ago ..
[00:16] <hoymkot_> i need help on my computer, I need help on starting gui on 9.04, I upgrade it by autoupdate from 8.10
[00:16] <stefg> amnesiauk: if you have , say, 3 free days and an old box to play with: build yourself a LFS (Linux from scratch) system... very educational (although rarely useful for real work)
[00:16] <histo> amnesiauk: hanging out here is a  big help and the forums. Till you get the hang of where everything is at.
[00:16] <thomatwork> lundh: sorry man - i've been lucky on that front
 I have a problem of evolution stalling on Ubuntu 9.04 when trying to compose a new message
 it takes about 30 seconds to open the window
 and my notebook seems to be fine.. so its not a hardware problem
 I have folders with thousands of email
[00:16] <nikkiclau> hoymkot_: please try grep ERR /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:16] <FloodBot2> rgs_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <amnesiauk> It may sound stupid but I;m kinda thrilled into linux now:)
[00:16] <xray7224> will you guys stop saying linux is hard
[00:16] <nikkiclau> hoymkot_: then pastebin it please :)
[00:16] <h00k> rafael: also, you'll need to delete it (as root) if it exists in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[00:17] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: i was too when i was starting to use it .. everything broke on me ..
[00:17] <spasticteapot> xray7224: I get this error message: (rhythmbox:13827): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to grab media player keys: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name
[00:17] <histo> xray7224: its not just have to understand the differences coming from windows .
[00:17] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau,  thats how you learn stuff best
[00:17] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: trying to get ISDN to work at the time was horrid even ... i loved it
[00:17] <fevel> should I use sarg on my proxy?
[00:17] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: yup, stuff sticks in your brain afterwards
[00:17] <rabid> i get DRDY ERROR on a couple of my drives when used as the ubuntu 9.04 / partition, most likely just 2 bad drives?
[00:17] <amnesiauk> ^^
[00:17] <h00k> rafael: also, lastly check /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/plugins/ for that file
[00:17] <xray7224> histo, your making it sound like its hard rather than just they dont know there way around the system i find windows hard but if you ask people they'd say it isnt
[00:18] <skierpage> I installed 64-bit Kubuntu 9.04. Occasionally window regions display corrupted on my ATI 9800 Pro.  lspci (very cool BTW) says it's a Radeon 350.  How can I tell what driver I'm using, and *should* be using?
[00:18] <rafael> h00k im running a find -name...
[00:18] <stefg> rabid: install smartmontools and find out
[00:18] <histo> xray7224: Its hard for a windows user to make the switch still. Now that i've been using nix for years I also find windows difficult to understand at times.
[00:18] <stefg> !info smartmontools
[00:18] <stealth-> rabid: thats when the the is a communication error between the devices. It's generally okay unless you expecience problems. I get them alot on my older hardware
[00:18] <amnesiauk> is there a site which has all common commands listed under each other?
[00:18] <histo> amnesiauk: for terminal?
[00:18] <amnesiauk> uhu
[00:18] <stealth-> rabid: correction I *think* its when there is a communication error
[00:19] <amnesiauk> common ubuntu built in commands
[00:19] <xray7224> histo, i dont like poeple making out linux is any harder than os x or win
[00:19] <histo> amnesiauk: you can use apropos or man -k    there is documentation built in to linux.
[00:19] <xray7224> because it isnt
[00:19] <amnesiauk> like lsusb and stuff
[00:19] <stealth-> !terminal | amnesiauk
[00:19] <rabid> stealth-: i hadn't noticed till i moved to 9.04 server, sometimes i get sluggish system performance
[00:19] <rafael> h00k the only instance is in /var/lib/flashplugin-installer
[00:19] <amnesiauk> ahh kay
[00:19] <stefg> amnesiauk: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[00:19] <amnesiauk> thanks
[00:19] <neskat> !danger
[00:19] <h00k> rafael: alright, get rid of that,
[00:19] <stealth-> rabid: might be the hardware dying out. Be sure to keep backups
[00:19] <rafael> ok
[00:20] <stefg> amnesiauk: http://linux-sxs.org/programming/bashcheat.html
[00:20] <KaiForce> Anyone had sound issues when doing an upgrade to Intrepid?
[00:20] <amnesiauk> thanks stefg
[00:20] <amnesiauk> danke schon:)
[00:20] <rabid> stealth-: oh ya i dont care about that, backups are my life, just wondering about something in syslog i hadnt seen before
[00:20] <skierpage> I run a "Hardware Drivers" app, it starts up "jockey" which says "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system" and displays some blank panes.
[00:20] <xray7224> ooo who gave a dangorus command :P
[00:20] <rafael> h00k done
[00:20] <h00k> rafael: restart firefox and try that now :/ did you say you have flashplugin-nonfree installed?
[00:21] <stealth-> rabid: you should be okay. like I said I use alot of olderhardware and on my server I get those errors alot. The cables are shot to hell, but ive been running it for a year and had no issues.
[00:21] <RHorse> you mean dangerous like sudo rm -fr / ?
[00:21] <rafael> h00k now i have flashplugin nonfree installed yes
[00:21] <histo> !anyone | KaiForce
[00:21] <neil> hi
[00:21] <h00k> rafael: alright, give that a shot...
[00:21] <histo> RHorse: please don't
[00:21] <KaiForce> i ran the command that RHorse posted and now my laptop doesn't work.
[00:21] <xray7224> RHorse, most systems wont let you run that because it knows not to delet / you would run rm -rf / no-preserve-root
[00:21] <pajamian> Hi everyone, getting this error when trying to remove a package with apt: FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.24-19-generic': No such file or directory ... How can I force apt to remove the package?
[00:21] <xray7224> by the way dont run that
[00:22] <unr3a1> hey all
[00:22] <KaiForce> thanks histo I already did ask
[00:22] <neskat> KaiForce	i ran the command that RHorse posted and now my laptop doesn't work.  > what command?
[00:22] <RHorse> xray7224: ah, something new I learned. Tnx
[00:22] <KaiForce> neskat i was kidding
[00:22] <neil> i have an external hd. i would like to install ubuntu on this external hd. currently i have an installed ubuntu on my pc, and i want to install an other one on my external hd, to be able to boot linux from an other machine. how can i do this?
[00:22] <neskat> oh
[00:22] <Seeker`> xray7224: Don't say that command in here
[00:22] <rafael> h00k there is good news and bad news..the good is that i FINALLY! have video on flash
[00:22] <h00k> rafael: bad news?
[00:22] <unr3a1> I am trying to run VNC from the gnome menu, and I have the gksu before the command, but the app doesn't load.  you see the system tray bar for "starting administrator" but it only flashes.  what can I do to get vnc to run from the gnome menu?
[00:22] <stealth-> !install | neil this might help
[00:22] <rafael> h00k the bad...no audio
[00:22] <xray7224> Seeker`, i did say dont run it to poeple i said it for educational value
[00:22] <h00k> rafael: bah.
[00:22] <neil> thnx
[00:23] <deco> is fedora as good as ubuntu?
[00:23] <diomadson> yes
[00:23] <Seeker`> xray7224: doesn't matter; don't say it in here
[00:23] <stealth-> deco: thats trolling
[00:23] <KaiForce> deco:  it has its plusses sure
[00:23] <h00k> rafael: I've never had this issue so I'm not entirely sure how to fix that.
[00:23] <histo> !best | deco
[00:23] <xray7224> pfff fine i wont educate poeple
[00:23] <unr3a1> does anyone know what I can do?
[00:23] <stefg> deco: uhoh....
[00:23] <rafael> h00k...ok...
[00:23] <tilinho> the fact is using a microsoft mouse, I cant load ubuntu?
[00:23] <KaiForce> is there a troubleshooting FAQ for sound on Ubuntu online?
[00:23] <rafael> h00k at least im getting there
[00:23] <deco> im using fedora don't know if  should switch to ubuntu
[00:24] <h00k> rafael: slowly but surely
[00:24] <rafael> h00k ur da man...
[00:24] <bazhang> !ot > deco
[00:24] <Seeker`> deco: this is a support channel; try #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:24] <stefg> !sound | KaiForce
[00:24] <|v|aster> does anyone know the command that will show me all users on my computer?
[00:24] <KaiForce> deco:  if your primary use is as a desktop, I would say yes.  and I like both Fedora and Ubuntu equally
[00:24] <Titan8990> |v|aster, cat /etc/passwd
[00:24] <neskat> deco: are you happy with fedora?
[00:24] <heguru> |v|aster: getent passwd
[00:24] <rafael> h00k i have to get up for a few minutes...ill start my battle with the audio then
[00:24] <deco> neskat: don't really know....
[00:25] <unr3a1> why do things keep saying that I have no install candidate as well?
[00:25] <KaiForce> stefg thank you
[00:25] <pajamian> anyone know how to remove a package that apt won't remove because some of the files are missing?
[00:25] <h00k> rafael: alright, then try asking the channel and see if anyone else knows how exactly to fix that
[00:25] <deco> neskat: i don't get called a noob for using it though....
[00:25] <stefg> !apt | pajamian
[00:25] <Titan8990> unr3a1, you are trying to install packages that no longer exist or have been merged into new packasges
[00:25] <Seeker`> deco: neskat: Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[00:25] <rafael> h00k..yes..its a whole new issue..i shall start by googling it first
[00:25] <Crash1hd> Can anyone in her tell me what DPS2 (Dual Power System 2) is from giga-byte? I mean its a piece of hardware that plugs in as a card onto the mother board but I really dont understand what it does? anyone?
[00:25] <skierpage> A really old ubuntuforums thread tells me to look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to find my video driver, but that's generic ""Configured Video Device"
[00:25] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, 2minutes remaining
[00:25] <h00k> rafael: good luck to you
[00:26] <rafael> h00k..thanks
[00:26] <|v|aster> Titan8990, heguru, thank ya
[00:26] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: cool
[00:26] <neskat> skierpage: what grfx card?
[00:26] <stefg> Crash1hd: #hardware will be happy to discuss that
[00:26] <amnesiauk> btw nikkiclau what's the keyboard shortcut to copy something from a terminal/bash/konsole?
[00:26] <Crash1hd> stefg: thanks :)
[00:26] <amnesiauk> not ctrl+c right?
[00:26] <skierpage> neskat I have an ATI 9800 Pro, lspci says it's Radeon 350.  But no indication what driver kubuntu is using.
[00:26] <stealth-> can someone tag me?
[00:26] <heguru> amnesiauk: shift+ctrl+c
[00:26] <amnesiauk> ahhh
[00:26] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: shift+ctrl+c
[00:27] <amnesiauk> just like a new tab and crap
[00:27] <mib_ijoy77hg> i'm trying to download java, it tells me to go into the terminal, type "su" and then my password, but it never lets me type in my password and i dont know what to do.
[00:27] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: or you can drag over the text and then click middle mouse button ....
[00:27] <tilinho> My ubuntu don't load, stop on splash screen and show me this warning, "kernel panic - not syncing attempted to kill init." on safe mode. Any idea?
[00:27] <stealth-> mib_ijoy77hg: su is the command to turn into root. You want "sudo su" then your password. su requires the root password, which you cant know
[00:27] <neskat> skierpage: unless system>preferences>hardware drivers tells you, then you're probably running the vesa or opensource ati compatible driver
[00:27] <xray7224> Seeker`, hey guys what does for x in `ls /dev/sd*` ; do dd if=/dev/random of=$x ; done do someone told me to run it :P
[00:27] <Titan8990> !root | mib_ijoy77hg
[00:27] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: (where you want to copy to)
[00:27] <amnesiauk> cool:)
[00:27] <sedeki> I have a problem with my audio drivers ... When I plug in headphones the sound from the speakers don't go away, as the sound do in windows .... Anyone??
[00:27] <Titan8990> mib_ijoy77hg, root account in locked in ubuntu
[00:27] <sedeki> I've looked in alsamixer also
[00:28] <heguru> mib_ijoy77hg: use add/remove in the applications menu to install java
[00:28] <lastttt> mib_ijoy77hg: try sudo
[00:28] <h00k> I have an external HD (500gb) formatted with ext2 and I'm having some severe file system problems, I'd like to try to get my data off before I reformat/surface scan, can anyone point me to some (f/os) software that might help?  I'd love to try ddrescue but I don't have spare 500gb.
[00:28] <neskat> mib_ijoy77hg: to download java > sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[00:28] <stefg> !intelhda | sedeki
[00:28] <nikkiclau> h00k: norton ghost 2003?
[00:28] <skierpage> neskat Thanks!  That thing ("jockey" ?) shows blank and "No proprietary drivers", so that sounds right.
[00:28] <sedeki> stefg: aah cool! thanks!
[00:29] <xray7224> hey mr_bo_jangles
[00:29] <h00k> nikkiclau: free/open source software, also, I don't have spare 500gb to image it to.
[00:29] <Titan8990> h00k, the problem with images is that will will also have keep errors that the fileystem may have
[00:29] <mr_bo_jangles> hey xray
[00:29] <neskat> skierpage: cool, you can install the atu drivers for better performance if you __need__ them
[00:29] <Titan8990> h00k, you are best off backing up files using something like tar and rsync
[00:29] <h00k> Titan8990: they were rsync'd to that drive.
[00:29] <pajamian> stefg: I can't find the answer to my question in that link.  Basically put I need to finish removing an old kernel package that was only partially removed before.
[00:29] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, rebooting:)
[00:29] <Titan8990> h00k, so you don't backup the filesystem issues
[00:29] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: hopefully this works out of the box ...
[00:29] <Titan8990> h00k, rsync them back :)
[00:30] <amnesiauk> let's hope so
[00:30] <xray7224> Seeker`, should i run sudo for x in `ls /dev/sd*` ; do dd if=/dev/random of=$x ; done
[00:30] <h00k> Titan8990: they won't.  That's the problem.
[00:30] <xray7224> Seeker`, they said it would fix my background
[00:30] <stefg> pajamian: you might need to reinstall it again, just to get rid of it afterwards
[00:30] <skierpage> neskat  I am getting occasional corruption of window contents, so maybe I'll give it a shot.
[00:30] <h00k> Titan8990: I'm getting "Stale NFS file handle"
[00:30] <Titan8990> h00k, oh....
[00:30] <pajamian> stefg: that sucks, there really should be a way to tell apt to "just remove the damn thing"
[00:31] <xray7224> i so dont :O
[00:31] <unr3a1> Titan8990, I am trying to install VNC enterprise
[00:31] <unr3a1> Titan8990, would that be vnc-java now?
[00:31] <h00k> Titan8990: my DMESG is reporting I/O errors: http://pastebin.com/d10511920
[00:31] <neskat> skierpage: make sure you know how to revert to your old xorg.conf file in the root shell incase anything goes wrong
[00:31] <Titan8990> unr3a1, not sure, I use ssh
[00:31] <h00k> Titan8990: so I'm looking for a way to rescue my data.
[00:31] <stefg> pajamian: there are some --force options with apt, but it's quite unresponsible to just tell people to -- force-yes this or that w/o knowing what they are doing
[00:31] <xray7224> mr_bo_jangles, i got kicked :(
[00:32] <Titan8990> h00k, thats a tough one....
[00:32] <h00k> Titan8990: yeah...
[00:32] <pajamian> stefg: right, and I thought --force-yes simply told it to answer yes to prompts automatically
[00:32] <nikkiclau> h00k: get another 500G disk .. cheapest option IMO
[00:33] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, I've got an ip now:)
[00:33] <stefg> pajamian: you prolly need dpkg --force-help
[00:33] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: excellent! :D glad to hear it!
[00:33] <psygeist> lolbye
[00:33] <Titan8990> h00k, I would maybe try some picture recovery software
[00:33] <h00k> nikkiclau: yeah, thats money I don't have...that's why I'm seeing if anyone knows of any software that would be nice to use to recover from my hosed filesystem
[00:33] <Zeroyez> anyone know if catalyst 9.4 and jaunty = working 3d performance or not?
[00:33] <Titan8990> h00k, its made for photos but works will all types of files
[00:33] <unr3a1> has anyone here sucessfully installed vnc enterprise in 9.04?
[00:33] <h00k> Titan8990: yeah, I thought maybe something like testdisk
[00:33] <Titan8990> h00k, start with the most important
[00:34] <ryanakca> How do I print pages 47 and 48 of a PDF from the CLI? I have lpr / pdf2ps / gs / etc installed.
[00:34] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, sorry for bothering you, since I could also just install 9.04 straight away:p
[00:34] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: then we know that this was a driver issue, and a upgrade of kernel (or in this case, Ubuntu) worked for you.
[00:34] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: no worries mate .. it was fun
[00:35] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, thanks a lot mate:)
[00:35] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: you're very welcome :)
[00:35] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, strange though why the usb stick didn't work:p
[00:36] <amnesiauk> I guess the bootsector was fine right, otherwise it wouldn't boot:)\
[00:36] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: probably ... but i've seen usb sticks working on some computers and not others .. I guess it's not as reliable as CD ROM ..
[00:36] <stefg> !info photorec | h00k
[00:36] <stefg> ... sh ...
[00:37] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, strange:)
[00:37] <h00k> stefg: I found testdisk: gcsecurity.org
[00:37] <amnesiauk> well I'll stop bothering you guys, but I'll definitely come back:)
[00:37] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: not really .. I saw this happend aswell with CD ROMs vs floppy disks when CD booting was a new technology
[00:37] <Zeroyez> dd with a progress bar where can i find
[00:37] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: alrighty mate ..
[00:37] <amnesiauk> and the cdrom worked?
[00:37] <amnesiauk> guess so right:P?
[00:38] <unr3a1> Titan8990, would you know why gksu vncview %f does not load the application?
[00:38] <unr3a1> is there something I am missing in that command?
[00:38] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: in the end, BIOS manufacturers fixed their code ...
[00:38] <stefg> h00k: testdisk recovers partitions .... if your partition table is hosed. photorec (sam author iirc) tries to get your files back
[00:38] <amnesiauk> ahh I see
[00:39] <h00k> stefg: photorec is included in the tarball
[00:39] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, well my new bios on the laptops kinda simple:(
[00:39] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, hasnt got the option to press f12 for example and choose where to boot from
[00:39] <k1rbsah>  i type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree  it says i already have the latest version.. i open a page that uses flash.. and it says i dont have adobe flash player 9 or higher... it is any page .. help?
[00:39] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: well, they differ from product to product ... unfortunately
[00:40] <RHorse> k1rbsah: dl from the adobe site and follow the instructions there.
[00:40] <amnesiauk> nikkiclau, yup
[00:40] <leviatha1> hi, i just decided to install ubuntu 9.0.4 and wanted to install ati drivers(fglrx) afterwards, did it with apt-get. after that i got a white with black screen.  I also noticed that fglrx gave error while loading.  Do i have to modify the ubuntu kernel for fglrx? cause i got the same version working on my gentoo box? And btw where are all the option from Xorg.conf written to?
[00:40] <Roconda> HI amnesiauk
[00:40] <amnesiauk> pikko:p
[00:40] <maco> leviatha1: current versions of X do not require a static config file
[00:41] <maco> leviatha1: that's why xorg.conf is empty
[00:41] <pajamian> stefg: well I'm gonna try reinstall / remove, but it's rather a pain because it has a dependancy that has to be installed and removed as well that way.
[00:41] <stefg> leviatha1: envy .... or go buy an nvidia card (quicker solution)
[00:41] <mr_bo_jangles> \x6a\x31\x58\xcd\x80\x89\xc3\x89\xc1\x6a\x46\x58\xcd\x80\x31\xc0\x50\x68\x2f\x2f\x73\x68\x68\x2f\x62\x69\x6e\x54\x5b\x50\x53\x89\xe1\x31\xd2\xb0\x0b\xcd\x80
[00:41] <leviatha1> stefg: well its on my old notebook so its kinda hard
[00:41] <Zeroyez> leviatha1, which version of fglrx did apt-get install
[00:41] <maco> leviatha1: it's *supposed* to just Do The Right Thing...but graphics drivers are just kinda screwed on jaunty ATM
[00:41] <amnesiauk> Well nikkiclau, thanks again for the help, got to install xp on me old laptop now:p
[00:41] <Guest637> hi, im trying to use a script where the format is exec prog.exe and then I need to pass two dynamic perameters after that ip:port so the script would be script +connect ip:port if i put +connect ip:port inside the script after prog.exe works fine, if i do script +connect ip:port it does not work
[00:41] <thomatwork> To help me better understand UbuntuBootupHowto, I am trying to get synergyc to connect to a synergy server prior to user login - what do I need to do to get this working? I have already figured out how to get synergyc to connect upon user log in.
[00:41] <k1rbsah> rhorse i did installed using the .deb and restarted firefox and even relogged
[00:41] <maco> mr_bo_jangles: what's that? malware encoded as escape characters? no thanks
[00:42] <leviatha1> just wanted to test ubuntu cuause i never worked with it yet
[00:42] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I have the 9.04 iso already and I want to install inside of windows how can I do that w/o waiting on wubi to dl the iso?
[00:42] <nikkiclau> amnesiauk: alright .. have fun :)
[00:42] <mr_bo_jangles> lol its /bin/sh
[00:42] <RHorse> k1rbsah: no. You have to go to the adobe.com and install from there. Will work,. guaranteed. :)
[00:42] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I have the 9.04 iso already and I want to install inside of windows how can I do that w/o waiting on wubi to dl the iso?
[00:42] <leviatha1> maco:  is there any way round? manual install or no point trying?
[00:42] <mr_bo_jangles> waiting for people to ask about it
[00:42] <maco> leviatha1: you can use vesa in the meantime. i suppose there's a work around somewhere. i only konw the intel stuff though
[00:42] <k1rbsah> rhorse ok ill try again :) ty ill get back to you :)
[00:43] <maco> leviatha1: it's also possible you have one of the cards for which ATI recently dropped support and thus need the open source ati driver
[00:43] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: but the disk in.. and it will auto run while in windows
[00:43] <LadyNikon> put*
[00:43] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: I have the cd but it will not read on this cdrom..
[00:43] <k1rbsah> rhorse the tar.gz ?
[00:43] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: did you burn it correctly? it should automatically start when you put the disk in
[00:43] <RHorse> k1rbsah: don't use the deb., use the .gz file
[00:43] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: I have a copy of 9.04 on my flash drive but it is not a dedicated OS just the iso
[00:43] <RHorse> yes
[00:44] <k1rbsah> rhorse ok because ive done the .deb and apt-get :-/
[00:44] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: can you burn it to a cd?
[00:44] <Zeroyez> are there any utilities similar to dd but with a progress bar?
[00:44] <neil> i would like to install jaunty to an external harddrive with debootstrap from a hardy ubuntu, but command "debootstrap jaunty /install" says E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/jaunty. what should i do?
[00:44] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: yeah but as I well know some cdroms do not like certain media types..showed up fine on my *nix boxes at home..
[00:44] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: no she does not have a cd burner..
[00:44] <RHorse> k1rbsah: use the .gz and follow the instructions on how to install. It's easy.
[00:44] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: i just used isoburner
[00:44] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: ah
[00:44] <k1rbsah> rhorse ok ok :)
[00:44] <leviatha1> maco: doubt it did use closed server before on that machine. Didnt check though. Will try to play a bit with kernel an driver then. cause i often play wow on my notebook while in class and its just not possible with a decent driver
[00:44] <leviatha1> closed driver*
[00:44] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: maybe google usb ubuntu installation windows
[00:45] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: I dont think I could run it offa usb w/o extracting the iso is what im saying
[00:45] <heguru> thomatwork: I don't think that would be possible (not without hacking gdm atleast)
[00:45] <heguru> fthomat
[00:46] <lbt> hi...where do the armel guys hang out?
[00:47] <thomatwork> heguru the PC will boot to the log in screen. - I just hate having 2 keyboards on my desk just so I can log in to my Ubuntu box.
[00:47] <Roasted> Can someone help me with an rsync error? I'm getting "failed to set times" "operation not permitted" with the one rsync command I run
[00:47] <lbt> I have a bug in xargs under armel qemu
[00:47] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[00:47] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: I told her that I could backup her windows sys to an online storage..but it would take too long and I told her to get everything she wanted bc windows was going to the trash :) I convinced her to try linux from the ubuntu student training manual and the fact that windows has a ugly registry and was just being a big PITA
[00:48] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: im just googling so read it first
[00:48] <heguru> thomatwork: and you want synergyc to connect to server so you can use the keyboard to login, for this synergyc has to run in the same session as GDM, and you have to modify the gdm startup file
[00:48] <churl> in Jaunty, is there no longer the option to have "icons only" in the "task list"?
[00:48] <k1rbsah> rhorse NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the
[00:48] <k1rbsah>       components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.
[00:48] <k1rbsah> Installation complete.
[00:48] <LadyNikon> jimisrvrox: brb
[00:48] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: I do not want to lose everything on my flash drive tho bc I have more than just the ubuntu on there
[00:48] <felixsulla> Does anyone know how to see about turning off a touchpad/certain mouse buttons but leaving other mouse buttons active?
[00:48] <oOarthurOo> Hi... I installed phatch from the repos, but now nautilus can't open up any folders. Or rather, shortcuts to my home folder no longer work. Instead phatch opens up. So I uninstalled phatch hoping the ownership would switch back to nautilus, but instead I now see an error message saying "can't open :///file/home/arthur because no appplication exists to do so"
[00:49] <Kubuntu__> What is the right mount command for a fat32 the -t *where here?*
[00:49] <Kubuntu__> *what**
[00:49] <heguru> vfat
[00:49] <heguru> Kubuntu__: -t vfat
[00:50] <nikkiclau> well, i'm going .. night night
[00:50] <heguru> Kubuntu__: actually omitting -t should also work, mount should autodetect fat32
[00:50] <Roasted> Can someone help me with an rsync error? I'm getting "failed to set times" "operation not permitted" with the one rsync command I run
[00:50] <thomatwork> gdm = GNOME Display Manager I'm guessing... hmm. Is modifying the gdm startup file a non-trivial task?
[00:50] <LadyNikon> Roasted: please be patient someone will help you when thy can.
[00:50] <zhurai> question: about desktop drapes program, for the "Wallpaper search directory", does it search in subfolders?
[00:50] <Kubuntu__> heguru: it didnt detect it. and said vfat was wrong
[00:51] <Roasted> ladynikon - I have been. But thanks!
[00:51] <heguru> thomatwork: check this post, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-564405.html
[00:51] <maco> leviatha1: ati just demoted a lot of cards from supported-in-fglrx to unsupported-and-now-in-ati like a month or two ago
[00:51] <_CommandeR_> Hi, is there a reason why Ubuntu 9.04 reads my 6GiB as 5.8GiB ?
[00:51] <LadyNikon> Roasted: then check the forums.
[00:51] <Roasted> ladynikon - Already did.
[00:51] <k1rbsah> rhorse still no go :-/
[00:51] <heguru> Kubuntu__: maybe its not fat32 then
[00:51] <_CommandeR_> Hi, is there a reason why Ubuntu 9.04 reads my 6GiB as 5.8GiB (RAM)
[00:51] <LadyNikon> Roasted: then i guess its waiting to see if someone can help you. but i dont recommend repeating our post
[00:51] <Kubuntu__> heguru: it is its just a U3 Drive and its buggy
[00:52] <RHorse> k1rbsah: you'll have to do a find -name xpti.dat .mozilla search and rm that file, then. Can't you install from your browser at adobe.com?
[00:52] <s4suke> wath
[00:52] <Roasted> ladynikon - I repeat it when my post gets lost in the above text that clearly nobody else will check.
[00:52] <s4suke> waht
[00:52] <Crash1hd> Am I going to have an issue with ubuntu seeing a 1TB drive?
[00:52] <thomatwork> heguru: thx - I should have searched the forums a little better - this looks to have some answers
[00:52] <heguru> Crash1hd: no
[00:52] <s4suke> que
[00:52] <Crash1hd> heguru: I ask because xp seems to only be seeing the first 100gigs or so
[00:53] <LadyNikon> Roasted: i would say give it like 2 or 3 mins between it but hey.. its up to you :)
[00:53] <maco> Roasted: they could be in the middle of typing a response...
[00:53] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: XP only see 100gbs ?
[00:53] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: Is it partitioned correctly ?
[00:53] <Roasted> maco - If several minutes pass where I get no responses and my question has been unseen on the main screen of text here for quite some time, I highly doubt they'd be typing. And even if they are, what's the harm?
[00:53] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: thats xp pro without any service packs (doing an install)
[00:53] <Cpudan80> hmm
[00:54] <Cpudan80> You did chose NTFS right ?
[00:54] <Crash1hd> yes
[00:54] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: You shouldn't install XP gold
[00:54] <_CommandeR_> Hi, is there a reason why Ubuntu 9.04 reads my 6GiB as 5.8GiB (RAM)
[00:54] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: You need to slip it up to SP3
[00:54] <Cpudan80> or at least 2
[00:54]  * maco wonders what NTFS's max filesystem size is
[00:54] <Cpudan80> installing gold is a very bad idea
[00:54] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: if I new how I would
[00:54] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: why?
[00:54] <mib_7wl1la> perhaps a stupid questio, but what command is executed when i press the hotkey that mutes my speakers? put another way: if I wanted to write a script that would mute my sound, what command would i use?
[00:54] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: you use NLite -- the guys in ##windows can help you
[00:55] <Apaxis> Crash1hd: ;\
[00:55] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: for reasons like your weird 100GB problem, XP Gold had a large volume problem that you wont be able to get around later
[00:55] <Kubuntu__> Cpudan80 is he running it in a USB enclosure? I had same prob with puttin a 350GB in an old enclosure
[00:55] <maco> mib_7wl1la: maybe look at 'man amixer'?
[00:56] <Cpudan80> Good question
[00:56] <Cpudan80> USB enclosure = evil
[00:56] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: hmm I know that once sp2 is installed it sees the rest of the drive (im only installing xp on the first 20 gigs anyhow
[00:56] <Urik> Hi guys. Could you please answer a question? Let's say that I want to find the second line of the la.tmp file. I do: sed -n '2p' la.tmp
[00:56] <Urik> right?
[00:56] <Urik> what if instead of 2, I want to input a variable?
[00:56] <heguru> mib_7wl1la: depents on your hardware, usually one of the scripts in /etc/acpi/events/
[00:56] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: oh ok ... then yes that would work
[00:56] <jwash> http://www.Marie-gets-Deflowered.com/?id=43a43334
[00:56] <Zeroyez> i'm confused as to why jaunty server uses significantly more ram than a clean install of windows xp at idle
[00:56] <Urik> like $i for exaample
[00:56] <_CommandeR_> Hi, is there a reason why Ubuntu 9.04 reads my 6GiB as 5.8GiB (RAM) ?
[00:56] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: the problem is when you try to use a giant partition all for XP ... XP gold freaks
[00:56] <RHorse> mib_ the command you want is alsactl
[00:56] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: I would love to update my xp to sp2 at least
[00:56] <Cpudan80> _CommandeR_: 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[00:57] <lstarnes> _CommandeR_: the other .2 GiB is likely being reserved for use by the kernel
[00:57] <h00k> !o4o | jwash
[00:57] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: right I never have that issue cause I never make the C drive any bigger then 20 gigs lol :)
[00:57] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: Its really not hard, you provide NLite with the base ISO and then tell it to push the SP2 into it
[00:57] <admin_masu3701> i have no sound on my system...do anybody know what the problem may be?
[00:57] <Severian> _CommandeR_, Yes, it is because they have worked on it and improved it.  It used to only allow you 3.5 GB
[00:57] <Seeker`> Urik: I guess one way of doing it would be head -n$i la.tmp | tail
[00:57] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: in windows or ubuntu?
[00:57] <spectre51> Hoping someone can help me.  I upgraded to kernel 2.6.28-11 in 8.10 and lost the boot splash screen even though I have splash set as an option in menu.lst.  I upgraded to 9.04 and still  no splash screen
[00:57] <RHorse> !sound | admin_masu3701
[00:57] <Seeker`> Urik: I mean I guess one way of doing it would be head -n$i la.tmp | tail -n 1
[00:57] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: NLite is for windows - ask about it in ##windows
[00:57] <k1rbsah> rhorse removed the file ran the install relogged ... still no go
[00:58] <dassouki> i get command not found when i do "sudo ./compile.sh" although it exists
[00:58] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: google it and got it :) maybe I will try that :) and then re reinstall windows lol :)
[00:58] <lstarnes> dassouki: do sudo sh ./compile.sh
[00:58] <mib_ijoy77hg> i cant get java to work
[00:58] <k1rbsah> rhorse i went to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ to test it
[00:58] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: yeah - at leaast you woont have to run 10zillion updates
[00:58] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: very true :)
[00:58] <reid> anyone able to tell me why there is no tab-completion for apt-get on my ubuntu-server?
[00:58] <reid> I have it on this lappy running desktop
[00:58] <maco> spectre51: 8.10 uses 2.6.27...
[00:58] <RHorse> k1rbsah: did you restart the browser, first?
[00:59] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: but will my cd key still work?
[00:59] <lstarnes> reid: do you have bash-compietion installed?
[00:59] <thomatwork> heguru: the link you provided is an excellent start. I won't be able to test it until tomorrow. Thx for the assistance
[00:59] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: depends
[00:59] <k1rbsah> yes .. and i also relogged my session in ubuntu
[00:59] <reid> lstarnes: most likely that is the problem =)  thanks, brb
[00:59] <k1rbsah> rhorse yes .. and i also relogged my session in ubuntu
[00:59] <heguru> thomatwork: welcome!
[00:59] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: If you do it right - yes
[00:59] <randomusr> hello
[00:59] <spectre51> maco: I upgraded to it, but the point is I still have no splash screen after upgrading to 9.04
[00:59] <admin_masu3701> ubottu: it didnt work..so imma look at the link
[00:59] <reid> lstarnes: it is installed, yes
[00:59] <maco> spectre51: oh so 9.04 not 8.10 then?
[00:59] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: Windows license keys are tied to the disk type, so for example you cant slip SP2 into a Volume License disk and have your OEM key work
[01:00] <RHorse> k1rbsah: it's a single file, you can download it off the web and put it in your extersion directory. I've done it before.
[01:00] <dassouki> what's the best way to install apache and php
[01:00] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: You can however slip SP2 into an OEM disk and use an OEM key
[01:00] <maco> spectre51: and splash is still in your kernel boot line?
[01:00] <admin_masu3701> ubuttu: but the thing is i had sound before...
[01:00] <lstarnes> dassouki: try sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[01:00] <_CommandeR_> Cpudan80, Its 64bit of Ubuntu
[01:00] <randomusr> how come Super L doesn't work to lock the screen but it does for the panel menu?
[01:00] <Apaxis> dassouki: apt-get them together?
[01:00] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: but this is offtopic for #ubuntu - check ##windows
[01:00] <spectre51> maco:  yes sir
[01:00] <GraphicRecursio1>  I need help, I have a wireless card operating as an AP, I need it to use WPA encryption
[01:00] <Cpudan80> _CommandeR_: the top end is reserved and rounded off - don't worry about it
[01:00] <admin_masu3701> and when the system boot up i hear sound
[01:00] <_CommandeR_> lstarnes, Oh ok :)
[01:00] <Crash1hd> Cpudan80: no problem thankyou for the help
[01:00] <Cpudan80> np
[01:00] <Apaxis> dassouki: i think for php you want libapache2-mod-php4 or something to that effect (apt-cache search it)
[01:00] <Cpudan80> Crash1hd: Im in ##windows too ...
[01:00] <dassouki> Apaxis: lstarnes thanks
[01:01] <lstarnes> Apaxis: php5, not php4
[01:01] <Cpudan80> I play both OS instruments
[01:01] <lstarnes> Apaxis: php4 is no longer supported iirc
[01:01] <maco> randomusr: i thought it was ctrl alt L
[01:01] <_CommandeR_> Cpudan80, thanx m8 :)
[01:01] <spectre51> maco: Kernel (Arguments): root=UUID=118e7d19-808f-4bd4-85f8-d93f914592ce ro quiet splash
[01:01] <Apaxis> ah, yea im not up on the current versions
[01:01] <k1rbsah> rhorse ok
[01:01] <randomusr> maco, not in my keyboard shortcuts
[01:01] <_CommandeR_> BTW Anyone here Using Creative X-FI Card ?
[01:01] <RHorse> k1rbsah: if you give me a moment I can find it for yuou
[01:01] <Cpudan80> _CommandeR_: if you are really worried about your ram, run memtest86+ on it
[01:01] <Cpudan80> or some such thing
[01:01] <reid> lstarnes: other than bash-completion, do you have any other ideas?  I can tab-complete anything that isn't apt-get
[01:02] <_CommandeR_> Cpudan80, Nah its fine i dualboot into Windows 64bit also and it sees all of it :)
[01:02] <maco> randomusr: ....wait you tried to set super+L for lock in gnome's keyboard shortcuts thing? gnome's keyboard shortcuts dont recognize Super as a modifier, just as a key of its own, so "Super_L" means the left super key
[01:02] <h00k> _CommandeR_: no, the ram that doesn't appear visible to use is reserved by the kernel.  your ram is probably fine.
[01:02] <k1rbsah> rhorse is it libflashplayer.so?
[01:02] <heguru> reid: are you running apt-get using sudo or as root (after sudo -i etc)
[01:02] <_CommandeR_> I Was just wondering ....
[01:02] <reid> heguru: oh, as root
[01:02] <dassouki> http://pastebin.com/d6357733e <-- i get this when i try to compile.sh a program
[01:02] <randomusr> maco, it doesn't work either way
[01:03] <heguru> reid: do it using sudo, bash-completion works for your user only, not for root by default
[01:03] <randomusr> and I can use Super with a modifier on other shortcuts
[01:03] <RHorse> k1rbsah: yes, and just put it in the proper directory - you can find that be googling. Good luck!
[01:03] <reid> heguru: ah, thanks
[01:03] <Apaxis> reid: if youre logged in as root just do . /etc/bash_completion
[01:03] <maco> randomusr: i didnt think that'd changed....are you doing this in gnome or compiz keyboard settings? (i'm not using either of the above, but i think i still remember how they work)
[01:03] <fireball> hey, anyone here know how to port foward for apache, correctly?
[01:04] <k1rbsah> rhorse ok thanks :)
[01:04] <randomusr> maco, I'm pretty sure that I'm using the gnome keyboard settings
[01:04] <_CommandeR_> But im impressed how 9.04 works fine :)
[01:04] <Kubuntu__> -sigh- Smart people here, So relaxing to hear leetspeak :D YaY!
[01:05] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: well I tried the usb and I got a nice white to grey bullseye type screen..when I told it to boot from the USB
[01:05] <jimi_hendrix> is there anyway to optimize an ati card?
[01:05] <spectre51> maco: any idea about the splash screen?
[01:05] <maco> spectre51: no, sorry
[01:05] <jimi_hendrix> (just dragging windows with fglrx enabled lags)
[01:06] <jwzja> jimi_hendrix, i've had issues like that with nvidia cards and the issue always ended up being wrong drivers
[01:06] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: do you have ATI's proprietary driver installed?
[01:07] <reid> Apaxis: problem fixed, thanks a bunch
[01:07] <MrDudle> so when i installed ubuntu i had all sorts of fancy effects now i can't make the system have wobbly windows i tried enabling visual effects but it says it can't but why could it before i upgraded?
[01:07] <MrDudle> is there a way to change that?
[01:07] <Seeker`> Urik: I have no idea if my way of doing it is the most efficient, but the idea is that "head -ni" returns the first i lines from the file, and "tail -n1" returns the last line from its input
[01:07] <Apaxis> reid: you can also add that to root's .bashrc if you like
[01:07] <h00k> MrDudle: make sure you have your graphics drivers installed properly
[01:07] <jimi_hendrix> Apaxis, yes
[01:07] <MrDudle> h00k, is there a wway to reinstall them?
[01:08] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: which ati card do you have?
[01:08] <h00k> MrDudle: yes, do you have ATI or NVIDIA
[01:08] <Urik> aaaah now I understand. I forgot about the pipeline. It's very smart. Thanks Seeker`
[01:08] <MrDudle> nvidia
[01:08] <jimi_hendrix> it used to work perfectly in 8.04, then i tried jaunty, then i tried fedora, then i tried sabayon, then i tried arch again, and now i am back on hardy, and its not going well
[01:08] <h00k> !nvidia | MrDudle
[01:08] <jimi_hendrix> Apaxis, ATI radeon hd mobility 3470
[01:08] <MrDudle> thank you h00k
[01:08] <und3rgr0undz3r0> please help me i want to get rid of kde3 so badly
[01:08] <h00k> Good luck, MrDudle
[01:09] <theBishop> anyone getting a broken package error in synaptic?
[01:09] <MrDudle> i'll let you know if i get it to work h00k
[01:09] <theBishop> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 15206 package `libgsf-1-common':
[01:10] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: yea you probably shouldnt have any issues with that card, how did you install the driver?
[01:10] <MrDudle> h00k, it says i have no propietary drivers installed
[01:10] <MrDudle> :S
[01:10] <h00k> MrDudle: check out System -> Preferences -> Hardware Drivers
[01:10] <Sagaci> is there a hack to place a "task manager" option when one clicks the panel, like windows?
[01:10] <jimi_hendrix> System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[01:10] <admin_masu3701> is it possible to bring ubuntu to earlier date like in windows? system restore?
[01:11] <MrDudle> that's where i  am h00k
[01:11] <h00k> MrDudle: do you see any drivers listed?
[01:11] <MrDudle> nope
[01:11] <h00k> Sagaci: click and drag the "System Monitor" icon from your menu to the panel
[01:11] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: hold on a second...
[01:11] <jwzja> anyone using eeebuntu experiencing issues with wireless wpa networks not authenticating after standby? it seems to be a common issue (which i guess is driver related) and can't find any info. restarting networking doesn't help
[01:11] <jimi_hendrix> k
[01:12] <h00k> MrDudle: do a sudo apt-get update
[01:12] <h00k> MrDudle: and upgrade
[01:12] <MrDudle> h00k, i am on 9.04
[01:13] <MrDudle> but i am updating
[01:14] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: you may need to try ati.com's driver, this howto im reading doesnt mention the radeon mobilities
[01:14] <Guest54688> does waiting ffor the current stable reelease (9.04) to become even more stable with updates decrease my chances of breaking my ubuntu OS when upgrading from 8.10?
[01:14] <jimi_hendrix> ok
[01:14] <admin_masu3701> is it possible to bring ubuntu to earlier date like in windows? system restore?
[01:14] <histo> Guest54688: the only updates you will see is security patches
[01:15] <histo> Guest54688: some bug fixes
[01:15] <histo> Guest54688: or you can wait for 9.10 which should be lts
[01:15] <thiebaude> admin_masu3701: ubuntu doesn't have a system restore feature
[01:15] <admin_masu3701> thiebaude: ok
[01:15] <histo> admin_masu3701: it doesn't need one either
[01:15] <Apaxis> here jimi_hendrix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:15] <thiebaude> histo: true
[01:15] <Guest54688> histo, ya so is the update mechanism going to be less buggy?
[01:16] <Joblin> Hello, I can login from root on ssh, but the other users cannot login to ssh, even though ive added them using adduser?
[01:16] <jimi_hendrix> Apaxis, i was about to ask you waht do i do with the file i download
[01:16] <jimi_hendrix> nice call
[01:16] <histo> Guest54688: I haven't experienced any bugs have you?
[01:16] <Guest54688> histo, a couple releases ago
[01:16] <admin_masu3701> cause am having sound and flash player problem cant cant fix it
[01:16] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: try their howto on installing the ati driver, if that doesnt work you may just not have support for great 3d on that card, sorry
[01:16] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: if I read the release notes for fglrx 9.4 right it no longer supports your chipset, so you'll have to use the open driver
[01:16] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: I could be wrong though, I just skimmed them (http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_94_linux.pdf)
[01:16] <histo> Guest54688: a lot of people don't upgrade untill lts. There is really no need if everything is working. Allthough ext4 is nice.
[01:16] <jimi_hendrix> Apaxis, i used to be able to run compiz flawlessly
[01:17]  * MrDudle brb reboot
[01:17] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, i am using hardy...
[01:17] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: hrm, did you try the open driver first man?
[01:17] <jimi_hendrix> no
[01:17] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: ah, in that case using fglrx 9.3 might be an option.
[01:17] <Guest54688> histo, well my mom is getting annoyed with this 8.10 bug that has resolution changing every like 5 boots and she has to reboot every 5 reboots to get the normal res
[01:17] <Guest54688> histo, and i dont no the pattern to file a bug report, would filing such a thing lead to a fix or is it too abstract?
[01:17] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: (although I'd try the open driver first)
[01:18] <histo> Guest54688: Well it may definately be worth upgrading then. there are some things you can do to protect yourself.
[01:18] <Apaxis> jimi_hendrix: id try that out, and then do what mzz is saying if that doesnt help you
[01:18] <mzz> Guest54688: at least try to catch a /var/log/Xorg.0.log for both the correct and the bogus resolution
[01:18] <histo> Guest54688: have a seperate /home paritition also backup your data from home then you have very little to worry about.
[01:18] <histo> Guest54688: bugs are filed with launchpad
[01:18] <histo> !bugs > Guest54688
[01:19] <Apaxis> Guest86949: filing serious bugs usually ends up in a fix
[01:19] <jeffreyf> Guest54688: Have you considered upgrading.  There have been many fixes to screen and monitor handling
[01:19] <Apaxis> eventually
[01:19] <Apaxis> oops
[01:19] <mzz> Apaxis: well, for this one a bit more info than "it's wrong once every n boots" would be required
[01:19] <Apaxis> i addressed the wrong guest
[01:19] <Guest54688> histo, ok so i shoiuld just say this in launchpad and include lspci? that should fix the problem?
[01:19] <mzz> but yeah
[01:20] <jimi_hendrix> ok
[01:20] <mzz> Guest54688: I suspect an Xorg.0.log for both cases would be more useful than an lspci
[01:20] <Apaxis> mzz: yea, didnt see his bug lol just thought he had a general question about bug reporting
[01:21] <Guest54688> mzz, jeffreyf, histo, ok well ill file a bug report anyways thx i have to study now tho
[01:22] <Chr|s> where are the sounds located for ubuntu?
[01:22] <Apaxis> somewhere in /usr/share?
[01:22] <Apaxis> just a guess
[01:23] <luddite> my 9.04 can connect to wep normally but when it connects(which it does) to wpa2 there is no corresponding internet.
[01:23] <Chr|s> Apaxis: yup, thanks
[01:23] <luddite> any ideas? im cabling it now
[01:23] <MrDudle> h00k, i installed the updates and such and i still can't enable visual effects
[01:23] <h00k> MrDudle: check System -> Preferences -> Hardware Drivers again to see if its listed
[01:23] <bowl> where can i download a booty disk?
[01:24] <jimi_hendrix> a booty disk?
[01:24] <bowl> yeah, a booty disk
[01:24] <MrDudle> no propietary drivers
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> Booty!
[01:24] <RHorse> bowl: keep it clean. :)
[01:24] <bazhang> bowl, what does this have to do with ubuntu
[01:24] <bowl> i need a booty disk so my system can booty up
[01:24] <bowl> for ubuntu
[01:24] <wolter> hi
[01:24] <Chr|s> how do I set up to check for updates daily?
[01:24] <RHorse> bowl: linux or dos?
[01:24] <Apaxis> bowl: you mean an install disk? try www.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <jimisrvrox> LadyNikon: well...Im going the wubi route..even though I have the iso already...unfortunately nothing else has worked..
[01:24] <odinsbane> I have an asus laptop with an atheros card, I can't get it to turn on the button will turn off the light, but it won't come back on
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> Chr|s:  i thought it did allready.. it just dont auto-install them
[01:25] <bowl> i accidentally smashed mine
[01:25] <brian___> hey all
[01:25] <MrDudle> h00k, there are still no drivers
[01:25] <brian___> ive run into this bug during installation
[01:25] <Chr|s> Dr_Willis: I always do it manually I never get an update icon
[01:25] <bowl> so where can i get a booty disk?
[01:25] <Apaxis> bowl: ^^^
[01:25] <brian___> i suspect it is because of this board having and oddball pata driver, and the cdrom is pata
[01:25] <randomusr> In gnome, what's the best windows manager to look glassy like vista?
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> bowl:  you can get the cd's at the ubutnu download sites.
[01:25] <h00k> MrDudle: do 'lspci  grep VGA' and see which video card you have
[01:25] <Severian> Chr|s, The update icon is gone for 9.04.
[01:25] <brian___> so i was able to mount everything and chroot in
[01:25] <h00k> MrDudle: lspci | grep VGA
[01:25] <bazhang> bowl, you asked and were answered, dont repeat
[01:25] <brian___> is there something i can run to complete the install?
[01:26] <Chr|s> !ubuntu | bowl
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> randomusr:  its not the window manager that looks that way.. but compiz + the emerald window decorator can look a lot like vista.
[01:26] <Chr|s> Seveas: ahh they did, so there is no notification?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> randomusr:  you might have to make your own emerald theme, or find one to download.
[01:26] <GraphicRecursion> I made a router using some old hardware I had lying around. Its running Ubuntu 9.04, I understand how to use WEP as the encryption method but not WPA. Can anyone help
[01:26] <Chr|s> oops
[01:26] <bowl> i know what ubuntu is - i use it from the booty disk because i don't want to delete windows trying to install it
[01:26] <histo> brian___: what is the bug doing?
[01:26] <Chr|s> Severian
[01:26] <bazhang> bowl, it is a boot disk. please stop repeating.
[01:27] <brian___> histo: it asks for the install cd media after 80% of "isntalling the base system"
[01:27] <Severian> Chr|s, Right, no notification Icon.  The default behavior is that update manager will open on your screen once a day.  They are going to change the default time frame to once a week.
[01:27] <bowl> i was told it was called a booty disk
[01:27] <MrDudle> h00k, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:27] <brian___> i think im gonna try apt-get distupgrade
[01:27] <bowl> it lets the system booty up
[01:27] <Pici> bowl: This is a support channel, please take it seriously.
[01:27] <GraphicRecursion> haha dont call it that just call it a boot disk
[01:27] <bowl> i am
[01:28] <Apaxis> bowl: and can you define booty for us?
[01:28] <bazhang> bowl, please stop
[01:28] <histo> brian___: did you doa check of the disk? I've seen this with certain media being burned too fast etc..
[01:28] <bowl> i need to replace my ubuntu booty disk because i smashed mine
[01:28] <Apaxis> sorry, i wotn encourage him
[01:28] <MrDudle> bowl download a new one and burn it to a cd/dvd
[01:28] <Apaxis> he gone
[01:28] <odinsbane> Is there a way to manually turn a wireless card off and on?  ifconfig doesn't cut it.
[01:28] <histo> brian___: but if you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed you should be able to do a dist-upgrade and dpkg-reconfigure -a if needed.
[01:28] <bowl> why did you kick me?
[01:28] <bazhang> !ot > bowl
[01:28] <h00k> MrDudle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/363821/comments/7
[01:29] <GraphicRecursion> I made a router using some old hardware I had lying around. Its running Ubuntu 9.04, I understand how to use WEP as the encryption method but not WPA. Can anyone help
[01:29] <vasi> odinsbane: what exactly do you want? is turning off wireless in networkmanager insufficient?
[01:29] <bowl> i was just saying i need to replace my booty disk. where can i have them send me a new one?
[01:29] <Chr|s> Severian: I see, hmm I never get that daily I have to do it manually to check for updates
[01:29] <bowl> i just need a link
[01:29] <h00k> MrDudle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7132843#post7132843
[01:29] <cptblood> www.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <odinsbane> vasi, when I boot with the cdrom the light comes on and it is fine, if I boot with the hard drive no light.
[01:29] <Apaxis> bowl: youve been told about 4 times www.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <bazhang> bowl, it is a boot disk. www.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <MrDudle> h00k, i'm opening the first one
[01:29] <odinsbane> vasi: also if I use the button to turn the light off I cannot turn it back on.
[01:29] <owner> ubuntu.com?
[01:30] <Apaxis> if he didnt see it that time hes definately a troll
[01:30] <cptblood> bowl: google wont hurt either
[01:30] <Rajeev> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite A305-S6909 with a Mobile Intel  GM45 Express Graphics Chipset but I am having graphics distortion when using LIVECD
[01:30] <bowl> ok thank you
[01:31] <vasi> odinsbane: fraid i can't follow you, sorry
[01:31] <Dreamglider> How do i list my soundcard in terminal ?
[01:31] <odinsbane> vasi, my wireless card doesn't work
[01:31] <vasi> Dreamglider: it's probably somewhere in the output of lspci -vv
[01:31] <Severian> Chr|s, I set mine for manual updates, too.  But, the default is to check once a day and open the update manager if updates are found.
[01:31] <Dreamglider> i need to see where it is (/dev/some point)
[01:31] <odinsbane> vasi it works from a live cd but not when I start from the hard drive
[01:31] <vasi> odinsbane: ah, i thought you meant you couldn't turn it off :-)
[01:32] <vasi> odinsbane: ok, so what card do you have/
[01:32] <owner> So this is Irc eh.
[01:32] <vasi> owner: yep, ain't it great? :-P
[01:32] <Pici> owner: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[01:32] <Rajeev> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite A305-S6909 with a Mobile Intel  GM45 Express Graphics Chipset but I am having graphics distortion when using LIVECD.  Help?
[01:32] <phishbwlr> how do i change my screen resolution on ubuntu?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> phishbwlr:  theres a setting item in the menus called 'display' i think
[01:32] <vasi> phishbwlr: System -> Preferences -> Display
[01:32] <odinsbane> vasi: Atheros AR928X
[01:33] <h00k> hmw: well, photorec recovered them all, just didn't save them into their directories
[01:33] <randomusr> dr_willils, was it more appropriate to say Window Decorator?
[01:34] <Atomic_UE> when i share a folder via samba by right clicking the folder, goign to properties, and Share tab. Where is that information stored? It's not in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:34] <vasi> phishbwlr: note that the Display app has some bugs in jaunty :-(   you can use xrandr from the command-line as well
[01:34] <randomusr> dr_willis even
[01:34] <h00k> hmw: so I don't know...if that was even useful.
[01:34] <Anscombe> Hi - I just tried to install Ubuntu and I'm currently on the "prepare disk space". However, I am having a slight issue. I have Windows XP Pro installed but it's not showing up on the partitions. It's showing 11% ubuntu and 89% ubuntu :S
[01:34] <vasi> odinsbane: have you search the wiki/forums for Atheros wifi?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> randomusr:  compiz can use one of several 'window decorators' a GTK/gnome based one, a KDE/qt based one, or Emerald..
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> randomusr:  each has its own 'look'
[01:35] <PleXuS> anyone known how to burn onto BD RW disc like normal hardisk? (packetwrite)
[01:35] <odinsbane> vasi: yes, they seem to end with it works in jaunty
[01:35] <KasdK> what should my questions pertain to?
[01:35] <vasi> odinsbane: oh :-(
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> randomusr:  if you want somthing that can look like XP/Vista/Windows  glassy stuff -> emerald can
[01:35] <KasdK> jaunty ubuntu, same thing?
[01:35] <randomusr> dr_willis, what if I'm not using Compiz
[01:35] <brian___> my debian-installer fails 79% into copying base system.  if i boot a livecd and chroot into it, is there any command i can run to have it finish the install
[01:35] <brian___> ?
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> randomusr:  then you are not going to get a very Glassy Looking theme.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> brian___:  debian?
[01:36] <brian___> Dr_Willis: the name of the process is "debian_installer"
[01:36] <caleb_> My sound doesn't work in ubuntu
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> brian___:sounds liek the ca may have a bad spot or somthing.
[01:36] <Apaxis> brian___: try checking your disk for errors at the menu?
[01:36] <KasdK> I shall consult google!
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> brian___:  i know of no way to 'make it finish'
[01:37] <brian___> ill check the disc
[01:37] <caleb_> I can hear the sound when the login screen comes up though
[01:38] <Gourlis> Hi, I have ubuntu 9.04 version, while using my ubuntu my screen flashing sometimes. What's might be the problem ?
[01:38] <ByTewAlkeR> hi all.. i registerd a .ca domain at GoDaddy, currently using their free hosting.. how can i get it to point to my box?
[01:38] <Dreamglider> vasi: http://pastebin.com/f3a175ef0 the sound card is at line 24 but it does not show where it's located (/dev/some point)
[01:38] <Atomic_UE> when i share a folder via samba by right clicking the folder, goign to properties, and Share tab. Where is that information stored? It's not in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:38] <h00k> MrDudle: any luck?
[01:38] <vasi> hmm, when i'm using extended desktop on two monitors (aka "dual head"), maximized windows cover the bottom gnome panel, that's pretty weird....any ideas what's up with that?
[01:38] <TheZanke> My laptop has 2 SATA HDDs in them, the first is 320GB and has vista spanning the whole thing, the second drive is new and i want it to have all ubuntu on it but i want the bootloader to choose which OS to boot.. do i install boot loader on sda or sdb?
[01:38] <KasdK> So my friend is confused and doesn't know which version of ubuntu he is using. What should I tell him?
[01:39] <Seeker`> ByTewAlkeR: Does it not say on the GoDaddy website? It isn't really an "ubuntu" question
[01:39] <vasi> ByTewAlkeR: this isn't really the right channel for that....but iirc godaddy have an administrative interface for setting up DNS
[01:39] <Rajeev> Hello, I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite A305-S6909 with a Mobile Intel  GM45 Express Graphics Chipset but I am having graphics distortion when using LIVECD
[01:39] <Gourlis> KasdK, System -> About Ubuntu
[01:39] <admin_masu3701> firefox runs alot CPU when i play a flash video. how can i fix that?
[01:39] <vasi> KasdK: cat /etc/lsb-release ?
[01:40] <ByTewAlkeR> seeker` all i can find on their website is 'forward' sections, but i need to use bind or something.. is there a better channel to ask in?
[01:40] <wendy__d-_-b> hi all, i just installed ubuntu, but since its a laptop, i was not conected to internet
[01:40] <caleb_> Nvm, it's working now
[01:40] <ryanakca> How do I print pages 47 and 48 of a PDF from the CLI? I have lpr / pdf2ps / gs / etc installed.
[01:40] <Gourlis> Hi, I have ubuntu 9.04 version, while using my ubuntu my screen flashing sometimes. What might be the problem ?
[01:40] <wendy__d-_-b> now that i want to install programs like xchat or anything from synaptic they dont show up
[01:40] <vasi> KasdK: i think it's also in the "About Ubuntu" box under the System menu
[01:40] <Seeker`> ByTewAlkeR: I don't know; do they not provide technical support?
[01:40] <phishbwlr> how do you change the display to greater size than 1024x768?
[01:40] <Anscombe> Hi - I just tried to install Ubuntu and I'm currently on the "prepare disk space". However, I am having a slight issue. I have Windows XP Pro installed but it's not showing up on the partitions. It's showing 11% ubuntu and 89% ubuntu :S Will this affect my XP?
[01:41] <Apaxis> Gourlis: i have the same problem, its a known issue with 9.04, you can try downgrading to 8.xx
[01:41] <TheZanke> My laptop has 2 SATA HDDs in them, the first is 320GB and has vista spanning the whole thing, the second drive is new and i want it to have all ubuntu on it but i want the bootloader to choose which OS to boot.. do i install boot loader on sda or sdb?
[01:41] <Gourlis> damn
[01:41] <vasi> Anscombe: you might want to try partitioning with another program first, if you're worried
[01:41] <eegore> is there a package that is needed in Jaunty to get the wifi to see available networks?
[01:41] <h00k> TheZanke: probably sda
[01:41] <Gourlis> Apaxis, I like 9.04 :S You downgraded ?
[01:41] <KasdK> I'll give that a read thanks
[01:41] <Apaxis> TheZanke: sda :D
[01:41] <wendy__d-_-b> Anscombe, try installing GPARTED see if that shows ur partitions
[01:41] <TheZanke> ty ty
[01:41] <Apaxis> Gourlis: no, im on live and i just deal with it for now
[01:42] <Gourlis> I can downgrade ?
[01:42] <Apaxis> Gourlis: probably, just install over what youve got with the 8.xx install disk
[01:42] <vasi> phishbwlr: is the Display preference thingy not working?
[01:42] <brian___> nope, nothing wrong with my cdrom...
[01:43] <Apaxis> brian___: what about your hard drive?
[01:43] <|v|aster> Gourlis, you can download an older .iso and use it
[01:43] <brian___> Dr_Willis: you know of no way of using apt-get to completely install the base system
[01:43] <odinsbane> alright I found one.
[01:43] <Gourlis> nevermind, I'll use 9.04. When they will fix it, we will get the updates.
[01:43] <phishbwlr> it works but it doesn't have the correct size available, 1440x768 i think it is
[01:43] <brian___> Apaxis: it only happens with alternate amd64, now with alternate i686
[01:43] <Apaxis> brian___: youd have to start that over, no way of telling what file it was in the middle of copying/extracting in order to continue the install
[01:43] <vasi> odinsbane: care to share?
[01:43] <odinsbane> Is there a way to adjust the speed of my fan?
[01:44] <brian___> Apaxis: starting over is fine
[01:44] <brian___> i can mount the partiitons from a chroot
[01:44] <odinsbane> vasi : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/270748
[01:44] <_Tristan> how do I not show mounted stuff on the desktop?
[01:44] <brian___> i just cant be using the cd to install
[01:44] <phishbwlr> er 1440 x 900
[01:44] <admin_masu3701> how do i uninstall flash-64 and reinstall flash 32 in ubuntu? 64 dont seem to work good
[01:44] <vasi> _Tristan: run kde? :-P
[01:44] <brian___> Apaxis: this is the bug http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7210718
[01:44] <odinsbane> I needed to turn the wlan on manually, echo 1 > path/to/some/thing
[01:44] <vasi> admin_masu3701: how did you install flash64?
[01:44] <admin_masu3701> it using alot CPU
[01:45] <Anscombe> wendy__d-_-b, thanks, I've used GPARTED and it's found an NTFS 11.89gb, would that be the smaller partition? I just don't want to overwrite.
[01:45] <neonfloss> is there any way I can tell what cd drive model I have?
[01:45] <KasdK> having some trouble upgrading from 8.1
[01:45] <admin_masu3701> vasi: from adoby site
[01:45] <vasi> neonfloss: lspci -vv
[01:45] <wendy__d-_-b> Anscombe, is that ur partition?
[01:45] <admin_masu3701> and put the .so file in /mozile/plugins
[01:45] <zurdok> alguien de chile??
[01:46] <Anscombe> wendy__d-_-b: it's showing it on gparted, but not when i install
[01:46] <wendy__d-_-b> ok
[01:46] <syntax\> how come i always get "unable to resolve host <my hostname>" if i do sudo?
[01:46] <vasi> admin_masu3701: so you installed in manually, not with a deb?
[01:46] <vasi> you should be able to just remove the .so file you put in
[01:46] <admin_masu3701> vasi: no
[01:46] <wendy__d-_-b> Anscombe,  go to PLACES and see if its there? and is this the first time u booted to ubuntu?
[01:46] <vasi> and then you can 'apt-get install flashplugin-installer' to get flash32
[01:47] <n3glv_lap> hi guys
[01:47] <|v|aster> How do I set up a printer on my network when I have its IP?
[01:47] <n3glv_lap> hope there is a quick answer to a fairly mundane issue I have
[01:47] <Anscombe> wendy__d-_-b: theres 2 mounts and yes.
[01:47] <syntax\> anyone?
[01:48] <maco> |v|aster: go to the normal printer setup thing and choose "lpr" for the printer type then put the IP address in the box on the right
[01:48] <n3glv_lap> where the heck did my max/min/close corner-of-a-window-tool go?
[01:48] <maco> |v|aster: then it'll ask you for the printer make & model, and you're on your way
[01:48] <mibzzer15> when i try starting ubuntu from an external hard drive, I keep getting this error, GRUB Loading stage 1.5. > Grub Loading, please wait....> Error 25> _ _ _
[01:48] <n3glv_lap> 9.04 on a netbook
[01:48] <Apaxis> well brian___, i just dont know.... im starting to think its a bug with the installer script, maybe on the alternate (amd64/i686) disk? have you checked the bugtracker or whatever ubuntu has?
[01:48] <AgentHeX> how might i dump the contents of a "screen" session in a terminal to a file?
[01:48] <jp_sf> neonfloss: dmesg | grep CD
[01:48] <vasi> mibzzer15: are you on a mac, by any chance?
[01:48] <n3glv_lap> is this yet-another x-org 1.6 'feature'?
[01:48] <|v|aster> maco, ty
[01:48] <mibzzer15> vasi:  no
[01:48] <wendy__d-_-b> Anscombe, on places, after COMPUTER you should see all ur partitions, and to load then just click on them, put password when pronted
[01:48] <brian___> Apaxis: yeah, besides that post on the forum for a week ago, no one has posted an official bug so im dooing it
[01:49] <neonfloss> thanks jp_sf and vasi
[01:49] <vasi> AgentHeX: you can have multiple screens, so i'm not sure how you'd dump them all...
[01:49] <brian___> ill give it some time for a fix / suggestion, but I'll probably just install gentoo again
[01:49] <froystig> is 8.10 still supported?
[01:49] <AgentHeX> vasi:  i only have one screen session.
[01:49] <odinsbane> thanks
[01:49] <Apaxis> brian___: i would, keep checking back here too maybe someone else knows something about this
[01:49] <wendy__d-_-b> brian___, whats the problem?
[01:49] <vasi> AgentHeX: apparently 'C-a H' starts loggin
[01:49] <Apaxis> brian___: did you try installing from the live disk?
[01:49] <vasi> (according to the screen manpage)
[01:49] <AgentHeX> vasi:  it's detachd, and i can re-attach it, but i'd rather just dump the contents of it to a file.  i want what is currently in the buffer.
[01:50] <Roasted> Question - I booted up my PC and got grub error 18, which is "selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS." I rebooted not having an idea of what else to doa nd it booted fine. Why would I get this error and rebooting fix it??
[01:50] <vasi> AgentHeX: oooh....that's a harder question :-(
[01:50] <Apaxis> wendy__d-_-b: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7210718
[01:50] <vasi> AgentHeX: i think you can copy it and paste it, but i don't remember how
[01:50] <vasi> lemme check the man page
[01:50] <AgentHeX> vasi:  i need to get all of the stuff that i can't see above my window.
[01:50] <Anscombe> wendy__d-_-b: yeah, i've got 2, one when clicked opens my windows but when i go to install ubuntu, it doesnt show it on the partitions
[01:50] <n3glv_lap> Roasted: could be beginning of the descriptor going bad
[01:51] <Roasted> n3glv_lap - Can you elaborate a little more on what you mean by the descriptor?
[01:51] <brian___> wendy__d-_-b: i actually did just find a bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/360460
[01:51] <n3glv_lap> I mean early signs of dementia
[01:51] <jp_sf> Roasted: sounds like a BIOS configuration you have to change AUTO to normal
[01:51] <froystig> when there's an outdated binary in the standard apt repos, who does one go to in order to ask for it to be updated to latest?
[01:51] <n3glv_lap> media descriptor
[01:51] <Apaxis> brian___: there you go :p
[01:52] <Roasted> n3glv_lap - media descriptor? I'm still not quite following you.
[01:52] <vasi> AgentHeX: k, look at the manpage....there's a part that mentions  "This example demonstrates how to dump the whole scrollback buffer"
[01:52] <brian___> Apaxis: yah, but no workaround :(
[01:52] <n3glv_lap> btw, I friggin hate the removal of ctl+alt+bs to kill X
[01:52] <Roasted> jp_sf - any idea why I would have been able to run 8.10 for months and it be fine, then upgrade to 9.04 and it run fine for 2 weeks and only now I get the error??
[01:52] <vasi> AgentHeX: but note that by default, screen has a pretty small scrollback...so you may only get a few dozen lines, maybe a couple hundred
[01:52] <n3glv_lap> (found the fix for that one already)
[01:52] <wendy__d-_-b> Anscombe, are u on livecd now?
[01:52] <Apaxis> brian___: :(
[01:52] <|v|aster> is there a GUI for adding a printer? this is my first time doing it
[01:52] <Anscombe> wendy__d-_-b: yes
[01:52] <wendy__d-_-b> and u see the partitions
[01:53] <n3glv_lap> Roasted: every hdd has a part from the factory where the geometry is described
[01:53] <jp_sf> Roasted: your BIOS forgot it's configuration ? could be the case if the battery of your motherboard is dead
[01:53] <Atomic_UE> when i share a folder via samba by right clicking the folder, goign to properties, and Share tab. Where is that information stored? It's not in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:53] <wendy__d-_-b> Anscombe,  and when u click INSTALL and u get to the partitions are they there?
[01:53] <vasi> froystig: you can file a bug on launchpad, or just mail the package maintainer (see dpkg -p PACKAGE)
[01:53] <bonhoffer> what is a good music player to organize my mp3's and has codecs
[01:53] <Apaxis> Atomic_UE: jesus im about to google that just to shut you up hold on
[01:53] <Roasted> n3glv_lap - thats a bummer, because this is a brand new drive. My old one died under warranty and I got this one in about 3 weeks ago and did a fresh install of 9.04 when it was released on this drive. What luck if I have drive problems so frequently?
[01:53] <vasi> Atomic_UE: dunno, maybe find out with strace?
[01:53] <Anscombe> wendy__d-_-b: there's two partitions, both named ubuntu, yet windows should be there. It was before hand.
[01:54] <h00k> bonhoffer: there are a ton.  Amarok, Banshee, Rhythmbox, Exaile,
[01:54] <n3glv_lap> Roasted: might be just a random bad read
[01:54] <eseven73> !coc | Apaxis
[01:54] <vasi> bonhoffer: i like Audacious
[01:54] <n3glv_lap> if you can fsck it, it may be worth it
[01:54] <RHorse> bonhoffer: for *organizing*  mp3s, quod libet is great
[01:54] <n3glv_lap> and make sure smart is on
[01:54] <Roasted> n3glv_lap - can I fsck a drive thats mounted and in use?
[01:54] <jp_sf> Roasted: over heating could be a cause of HD failures too
[01:54] <n3glv_lap> not really
[01:54] <vasi> Roasted: no, don't do that!
[01:54] <n3glv_lap> but possibly of you boot from live cd
[01:54] <Roasted> jp_sf - My system doenst really heat up at all though
[01:54] <AgentHeX> vasi:  C-a ESC goes into scrollback mode.  that's sufficient.  thanks
[01:54] <n3glv_lap> unmount it then
[01:55] <n3glv_lap> and do scan
[01:55] <froystig> vasi: thanks.  do you know who the ubuntu-MOTU devs are?  the email address given by dpkg -p is their dev list, and I don't want to just shoot off a mail at many folks.
[01:55] <jp_sf> Roasted: is your motherboard old ?
[01:55] <bonhoffer> thanks guys
[01:55] <Roasted> jp_sf - thanksgiving of 08 I built this rig
[01:55] <Roasted> so, no
[01:55] <CatMan> Evening everyone.
[01:55] <Roasted> whats happenin catman
[01:55] <Crash1hd> OK if I have windows installed and then install ubuntu on the next partition and then go and reinstall windows will that mess up the bootloader?
[01:55] <kendall78> Can anyone give me any ideas on how to get my internal wireless working on Jaunty?  I have a VAIO laptop with a built in Intel PRO wireless.  It shows it is connected to my network via my Belkin G+MIMO router but yet I cannot access the internet.  If I plug into the router via cat5 I have internet.  More puzzling is the fact that I just installed Jaunty several days ago and the wireless "just worked" for the first couple of days.  Y
[01:55] <n3glv_lap> Roasted: I don't know that it's time to panic
[01:56] <n3glv_lap> could be just a burp
[01:56] <jp_sf> Roasted: not long enough to have a dead battery then
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | Crash1hd follow the instructions to reinstall grub from the live cd
[01:56] <Roasted> jp_sf - yeah, thats what I thought
[01:56] <Roasted> I'm going to reboot a few times and see what happens
[01:56] <Roasted> thanks fellas
[01:56] <jp_sf> Roasted: what is the size of your HD ?
[01:56] <Crash1hd> IndyGunFreak: thanks :)
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Crash1hd: ;). np
[01:56] <loxety> greetings
[01:56] <RHorse> kendall78: wpa or wep?
[01:57] <vasi> froystig: i'm not sure where it's listed, maybe on the packages.ubuntu.com page for that package?
[01:57] <kendall78> wpa
[01:57] <Apaxis> Atomic_UE: looks like its using the "net usershare" command to add the share, try checking out the man page for that to get some hint
[01:57] <CatMan> Roasted: Not much. Just confirmed I'll be staying with Ubuntu, just got reading all the weirdness w/ Mint...
[01:57] <n3glv_lap> kendall78: is it seeing it as a broadcom?
[01:57] <mibzzer15> when i try starting ubuntu from an external hard drive, I keep getting this error, GRUB Loading stage 1.5. > Grub Loading, please wait....> Error 25> _ _ _
[01:57] <kendall78> Where could I find that?
[01:57] <TheZanke> so im running ubuntu memtest86+ and its at 775 errors, should i be worried?
[01:57] <jp_sf> Roasted: if you reboot check the settings in the BIOS if it is on normal or LBA
[01:57] <Atomic_UE> Apaxis, cool thanks
[01:57] <RHorse> kendall78: learn how to use wpa_supplicant. CLI interface is more robust.
[01:57] <n3glv_lap> some of the wifi's need firmware to run
[01:57] <ice109> can someone help me, i've installed all the codecs necessary but still don't get video
[01:58] <n3glv_lap> if it's miss id'd that could jam you up
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> ice109: where are you not getting video?
[01:58] <n3glv_lap> does it connect to other hosts?
[01:58] <froystig> vasi: no worries.  i got it.  thanks!
[01:58] <ice109> IndyGunFreak: in vlc
[01:58] <kendall78> On Hardy the card worked great
[01:58] <ma2u2000> hi
[01:58] <ice109> IndyGunFreak: nor movieplayer
[01:58] <n3glv_lap> or w/o wap?
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> ice109: ok.. is it a website, or is DVD not working, or whatt?
[01:58] <ice109> IndyGunFreak: it's an xvid file
[01:58] <n3glv_lap> sorry, wpa
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> ice109: vlc should play an xvid
[01:59] <ice109> IndyGunFreak: i know
[01:59] <kendall78> what is wpa supplicant?
[01:59] <ice109> IndyGunFreak: but all i get is black
[01:59] <mibzzer15> If anyone can help me please.....when i try starting ubuntu from an external hard drive, I keep getting this error, GRUB Loading stage 1.5. > Grub Loading, please wait....> Error 25> _ _ _   What can I do to fix it?
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: why didn't you just install like a normal person?
[01:59] <admin_masu3701> i cant hear sound when playing music on youtube, imeem or other online music...but i hear sound when i play music using a music application
[01:59] <RHorse> kendall78: it is a utility that allows yo to connect from the command line. It's not hard to learn.
[01:59] <kendall78> The wireless worked fine when I connected to my parents belkin router
[01:59] <admin_masu3701> how can that happen?
[01:59] <mibzzer15> i dont want to take the risk of overwriting anything on the main drive
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: then you will deal w/ the inherent problems of booting an OS off a usb device
[02:00] <kendall78> Rhorse can I find more info on it in Help or the forums?
[02:00] <RHorse> kendall78: it will also tell you what the problem is if there is one, byt the std err messages
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: and as long as you pay attention and aren't wreckless, that risk is low.
[02:00] <n3glv_lap> kendall78: may learn some from playing in shell with wlan command
[02:00] <TheZanke> Memtest86+ now at 1230 errors...
[02:00] <CatMan> Booting from a USB any different from a live CD?
[02:00] <RHorse> kendall78:  first install it: sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> TheZanke: lol.. phail
[02:00] <loxety> is there a support channel for gaming on ubuntu?
[02:00] <n3glv_lap> try to rule out the gui controll if it's malfunctioning
[02:01] <chouchou_> helo all, pls I eed some helps
[02:01] <RHorse> kendall78: then man wpa_supplicant. And the web has some tutorials
[02:01] <jp_sf> !help | chouchou_
[02:01] <Esde[irssi]> i have my Acer Aspire One configured correctly with the guide, i plugged in a SD CARD and it does not see it, any ideas guys?!?!?
[02:01] <n3glv_lap> kendall78: wifi-radar has done me well in previous instals
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> CatMan: as longas your machine boots a USB device, no it works fine.. i've done it many times
[02:01] <jp_sf> !ask | chouchou_
[02:01] <mibzzer15> damn, fedora boots perfectly off of a usb external drive, if ubuntu can't, than damn, really turns some people away from supporting ubuntu
[02:01] <n3glv_lap> Esde[irssi]:  left or right side? v9.04?
[02:02] <Esde[irssi]> either 9.04
[02:02] <admin_masu3701> i cant hear sound when playing music on youtube, imeem or other online music...but i hear sound when i play music using a music application
[02:02] <chouchou_> pls i would like to set up phpserver on my ubuntu PC how do i proceed?
[02:02] <Esde[irssi]> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:02] <Greed> I'm having a bunch of trouble with autofs or automounting nfs... anyone have any experience?
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: well, if you want to compare user bases of Fedora and Ubuntu, it would show you're wrong
[02:02] <jp_sf> mibzzer15: I boot Ubuntu from an external USB drive or key without no problem
[02:02] <TheZanke> Memtest86+ now at 1442 errors... am i screwed?
[02:02] <Killeroid> mibzzer15: says who? I am booting off a usb drive right now. I have booted ubuntu off an external usb drive since ubuntu 5.04
[02:02] <LadyNikon> loxety: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> jp_sf: he installed to an external drive, and now he's getting grub errors.
[02:03] <KyleK> TheZanke: well that means something isn't right
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> TheZanke: lol, i don't know if you're screwed, but id say you failed the test..lol
[02:03] <mibzzer15> Killeroid, jp_sf: i am trying to do so and keep geting a GRUB Error 25 message
[02:03] <jp_sf> mibzzer15: wher did you install your grub ?
[02:03] <kendall78> Thanks Rhorse.  I'm going to install it and then I'll be back.
[02:03] <loxety> LadyNikon, thanks I couldnt get a channel list
[02:03] <Esde[irssi]> n3glv_lap:
[02:03] <Esde[irssi]> either 9.04
[02:03] <Esde[irssi]> n3glv_lap:
[02:03] <mibzzer15> jp_sf: where was i supposed to?
[02:03] <jp_sf> mibzzer15: sounds like you installed your grub on your external hard drive
[02:03] <LadyNikon> loxety: no problem
[02:03] <Esde[irssi]> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:03] <FloodBot2> Esde[irssi]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <RHorse> kendall78: it will take some reading to finally learn it.
[02:03] <n3glv_lap> Esde[irssi]: on 8.10 only my left side auto mounted
[02:04] <TheZanke> i love how memtest86 says Test "STD" Errors "1645".... an STD check? i hope i dont have that many..
[02:04] <mibzzer15> should i try reinstalling?
[02:04] <n3glv_lap> on upgraded to 9.04 I had to mess with it
[02:04] <ice109> can someone help me
[02:04] <ice109> can someone help me, i've installed all the codecs necessary but still don't get video
[02:04] <jp_sf> mibzzer15: you tell me I don't know, if you installed grub on your external hard drive you have to boot your PC with the external hard drive as first boot
[02:04] <loxety> LadyNikon, am still trying to get counterstrike working
[02:04] <Esde[irssi]> n3glv_lap: both WORKED, now they dont, all factors unchanged.
[02:04] <ice109> can someone help me, i've installed all the codecs necessary but still don't get video in avi files
[02:04] <admin_masu3701> i cant hear sound when playing music on youtube, imeem or other online music...but i hear sound when i play music using a music application
[02:04] <Esde[irssi]> ice109: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:04] <LadyNikon> loxety: any particular error messages?
[02:04] <ice109> Esde[irssi]: it's in vlc that i can't see video
[02:04] <a> all you have to do is install flash
[02:04] <jp_sf> mibzzer15: like in your bios a configuration should be like CDROM first the USB then HD
[02:04] <n3glv_lap> Esde[irssi]: now it will do both, but if I eject right or don't have it in when booting, it fails
[02:05] <kendall78> in synaptic there is GUI for it as well.  I'll see how it works.  Downloading and installing as we speak.
[02:05] <n3glv_lap> Esde[irssi]: btw, easy peasy is a good distro that will support ALL of you acer1
[02:05] <Esde[irssi]> >.
[02:05] <syntax\> how come i always get "unable to resolve host <my hostname>" if i do sudo?
[02:05] <n3glv_lap> and upgrade cleanly
[02:05] <Esde[irssi]> thanks n3glv_lap  i will look it up.
[02:05] <RHorse> kendall78: a gui kind of defeats the purpose. :)
[02:05] <n3glv_lap> just have to loose their yucky desktop environment
[02:05] <ice109> Esde[irssi]: it's in vlc that the video doesn't work
[02:06] <h00k> I'm having some issues with an external (500gb ext2) and I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice.  I rsync'd my data to my external and needed to restore it.  I get "Stale NFS file handle" error when trying to copy it back.  I did e2fsck that lasted over 24 hours, my dmesg reported I/O errors (http://pastebin.com/d10511920) so I killed it.  I would like to get my data back and was wondering if anyone had any protips.  photorec ended up pulling
[02:06] <h00k>  arbitrary crap in 525 different folders.  Any other ideas?
[02:06] <Esde[irssi]> no idea then
[02:06] <ice109> can someone help me, i've installed all the codecs necessary but still don't get video in avi files
[02:06] <jp_sf> syntax\: what is in your /etc/hosts
[02:06] <mibzzer15> jp_sf: is the bootloader considered the GRUB?
[02:07] <admin_masu3701> i cant hear sound when playing music on youtube, imeem or other online music...but i hear sound when i play music using a music application
[02:07] <RHorse> kendall i can give you a tutorial from memory, but youll have to get the details from man page
[02:07] <n3glv_lap> ice109: you are a pain in the arse, look up medibuntu
[02:07] <jp_sf> mibzzer15: grub is a bootloader
[02:07] <mibzzer15> ok
[02:07] <syntax\> jp_sf: i saw it, since i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 hosts somehow went to default
[02:07] <jp_sf> mibzzer15: lilo is a bootloader
[02:07] <syntax\> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[02:07] <syntax\> 127.0.1.1       ubuntu.ubuntu-domain    ubuntu
[02:07] <kendall78> I'm reading the man page now
[02:07] <jp_sf> syntax\: you have to fill /etc/hosts with the correct information
[02:08] <loxety> LadyNikon, most of the time I dont get a writen error.. the app just crashes
[02:08] <kendall78> my current settings use WPA and PSK
[02:09] <Apaxis> loxety: try running it from cmdline and after it crashes echo $? to get a return value, then you can checkt hat against an error message list to get an error (if it doesnt output one)
[02:09] <mobi-sheep> !tv
[02:10] <jp_sf> syntax\: 127.0.0.1 syntax-desktop
[02:10] <jp_sf> syntax\: 127.0.1.1 is not correct on your second line
[02:10] <jp_sf> syntax\: 127.0.1.1 must be replaced by 127.0.0.1 and then you put the name of your machine
[02:10] <Greed> I'm having a bunch of trouble with autofs or automounting nfs... anyone have any experience?
[02:10] <Roasted> I'm having an rsync problem... when I run the script, I get an error that "failed to set times on /media/storagebackup/jason - operation not permitted." I own the script, its owned by jason. And I execute it without sudo. Is that a problem?? I thought I remember it working before without sudo just fine....
[02:10] <zurdok> Alquien de Chile??
[02:10] <syntax\> replaced it with already sir
[02:10] <syntax\> thanks alot
[02:10] <pinion> you're welcome
[02:11] <mobi-sheep> Is there an application for Internet TV (no capture cards) that I could watch it?  I know Hulu is a choice.
[02:11] <lolzie9131> whats an application that lets me record the webcam
[02:11] <h00k> !cheese | lolzie9131
[02:11] <lolzie9131> thx
[02:11] <mobi-sheep> lolzie9131: Cheese.
[02:11] <h00k> !info cheese | lolzie9131
[02:12] <RHorse> mobi-sheep:
[02:12] <loxety> Apaxis, ok, I was also going to try out some other games
[02:12] <mobi-sheep> RHorse: ?
[02:12] <RHorse> mobi-sheep: mythtv?
[02:13] <Apaxis> loxety'
[02:13]  * CamargoBP thinks people need to take a break and have fun with this app: http://camargobp.mybrute.com   It's actually pretty fun.
[02:13] <Apaxis> oops sorry, are you using wine?
[02:13] <mobi-sheep> RHorse: I don't have cable TV but I have cable Internet.  Hence the "I-TV" :)
[02:13] <h00k> I'm having some issues with an external (500gb ext2) and I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice.  I rsync'd my data to my external and needed to restore it.  I get "Stale NFS file handle" error when trying to copy it back.  I did e2fsck that lasted over 24 hours, my dmesg reported I/O errors (http://pastebin.com/d10511920) so I killed it.  I would like to get my data back and was wondering if anyone had any protips.
[02:13] <jeffyeh> does anyone know how to show a list of hardware in jaunty?
[02:13] <Apaxis> loxety: i found a really great site that lists games and apps that work under wine and fixes for the ones that dont, hold on oll try and find it
[02:14] <Esde[irssi]> ok so i rebooted and it still doesnt work. and its not listed in fstab -l
[02:14] <RHorse> mobi-sheep: joox has a java app that is invoked when you hit the web site.
[02:14] <Esde[irssi]> Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
[02:14] <Esde[irssi]> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[02:14] <Esde[irssi]>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[02:14] <Esde[irssi]>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[02:14] <Esde[irssi]>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[02:14] <FloodBot2> Esde[irssi]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <Esde[irssi]>   ...
[02:14] <loxety> Apaxis, I am using the playonlinux frontend
[02:15] <zidan> hello everyone, got a problem totem wont play my dvd?
[02:15] <nymphonix> zidan, i just had the same problem! lol
[02:15] <mobi-sheep> !dvd | zidan
[02:15] <Apaxis> loxety: sorry i dont know what that is
[02:15] <zidan> lol
[02:15] <loxety> Apaxis, its like cedega but opensource
[02:15] <lolzie9131> whats an application that supports webcam for msn?
[02:16] <Roasted> I'm having an rsync problem... when I run the script, I get an error that "failed to set times on /media/storagebackup/jason - operation not permitted." I own the script, its owned by jason. And I execute it without sudo. Is that a problem?? I thought I remember it working before without sudo just fine....
[02:16] <zidan> so what do i do to solve it?
[02:16] <|Jason8|> Roasted: quit saying my name
[02:16] <Apaxis> loxety: in any case, it probably uses wine anyway let me find that site for you
[02:16] <hoymkot_> ubotto
[02:16] <hoymkot_> are you there
[02:16] <Roasted> jason8 - uh, its my name
[02:16] <Pici> hoymkot_: ubottu is a bot
[02:16] <loxety> Apaxis, yes it does, thanks
[02:16] <hoymkot_> ubottu
[02:17] <Pici> ubottu is a bot
[02:17] <hoymkot_> downgrade
[02:17] <lolzie9131> does anyone know a msn client for ubuntu that supports webcam
[02:17] <ice109> can someone help me, i've installed all the codecs necessary but still don't get video when trying to watch avis
[02:17] <mobi-sheep> lolzie9131: Try pidgin?  I don't know if pidgin supported webcams.
[02:18] <lrojas> exit
[02:18] <Esde[irssi]> http://pastey.org/pastebin.php?show=m4b13a941
[02:18] <mobi-sheep> ice109: Install VLC.
[02:18] <Esde[irssi]> I can SEE the card reader, but it wont read cards.
[02:18] <admin_masu3701> i dont hear sound in youtube, but hear it when playin music in rhythmbox player
[02:18] <ice109> mobi-sheep: it is in vlc that i can't watch
[02:18] <lolzie9131> mobi-sheep no it doesnt, any other client that might support it
[02:18] <hoymkot_> hi, i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 by automatic update, but the x-session fail to start, what can i do?
[02:18] <mobi-sheep> !dvd | ice109
[02:18] <churl> in Jaunty, is there no longer the option to have "icons only" in the "task list"?  Since the upgrade, I can no longer find that option.
[02:19] <mobi-sheep> ice109: Did you read the above? ^^
[02:19] <ice109> mobi-sheep: i have gstreamer installed
[02:19] <admin_masu3701> can anybody assist me please?
[02:19] <admin_masu3701> i dont hear sound in youtube, but hear it when playin music in rhythmbox player
[02:19] <Kubuntu__> admin_masu3701: probably flash player problem
[02:19] <ice109> mobi-sheep: and anyway i can't play any format
[02:19] <Esde[irssi]> http://pastey.org/pastebin.php?show=m4b13a941
[02:19] <ice109> even flv
[02:19] <Esde[irssi]> I can SEE the card reader, but it wont read cards.
[02:19] <Qwell> hold a key, keep holding it and press shift, wait a second, then release shift.  you end up with crap like "aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"  can that be removed?  it wasn't like that in 8.10..
[02:19] <Crash1hd> Ok I am now installing ubuntu after installing windows on the first 20 gigs but Im at the partitioner and a bit confused?
[02:20] <Esde[irssi]> http://pastey.org/pastebin.php?show=m4b13a941 Ubuntu 9.04 Acer Aspire One. Reader IS there, but not operable.
[02:20] <saiki> anyone know where I can find: libbz-dev?
[02:20] <admin_masu3701> kubuntu: yea...i try everything to fix flash...installed flash 64-bits, 32 ....but still dont work
[02:21] <saiki> !find libbz-dev
[02:21] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Try google, Sometimes i find them floating around if they arent in repo's
[02:21] <russ> whats the error message channel i'm having a problem running dhcp-server
[02:21] <saiki> Kubuntu__, I have looked, no luck :@
[02:21] <Apaxis> loxety: you can check out the appdb at winehq.com and this is a really cool one http://www.wine-reviews.net/ but mostly it has you configuring and running wine/your game/app manually
[02:21] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Whats the package again, i'll give it a try
[02:21] <phantom_d-_-b> how i install flash plugin?
[02:21] <h00k> !flash | phantom_d-_-b
[02:22] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Also what browser are you using?
[02:22] <RHorse> phantom_d-_-b: go to adobe.com
[02:22] <saiki> Kubuntu__, FF3.0
[02:22] <saiki> I'm on xubuntu Jaunty
[02:23] <lifeforce4> Does Xubuntu display EIDE drives differently in /dev/ besides hda?
[02:23] <h00k> I'm having some issues with an external (500gb ext2) and I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice.  I rsync'd my data to my external and needed to restore it.  I get "Stale NFS file handle" error when trying to copy it back.  I did e2fsck that lasted over 24 hours, my dmesg reported I/O errors (http://pastebin.com/d10511920) so I killed it.  I would like to get my data back and was wondering if anyone had any protips.
[02:23] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Sorry wrong person xD
[02:23] <Crash1hd> How much space should i give the swap file
[02:23] <admin_masu3701> h00k : what do !flash | phantom_d-_-B do?
[02:23] <Kubuntu__> admin_masu3701: What browsser are you using?
[02:23] <zidan> so how to i get dvds to play?
[02:23] <lifeforce4> Crash1hd: 1-2GB is good.
[02:23] <Pici> Crash1hd: If you plan on suspending your computer to disk you'll need at least as much ram as you have.
[02:23] <shadow98> ok guys i am trying to backup my whole system....using tar....with this command...  tar -cvzf /backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[02:23] <Kubuntu__> saiki: If you give me the package name your looking for ill search google real quick
[02:24] <Crash1hd> lifeforce4: any logic / reason to give more?
[02:24] <lifeforce4> like shadow98 said.
[02:24] <saiki> libbz-dev
[02:24] <lifeforce4> sorry Pici
[02:24] <Crash1hd> ok so if I give 3 gigs would be too much?
[02:24] <saiki> need it for this: http://forums.pcsx2.net/thread-2373.html
[02:24] <mzz> Crash1hd: bit of a waste for normal usage, imho
[02:24] <admin_masu3701> kubuntu: firefox
[02:24] <loxety> Apaxis, thanks for the links
[02:24] <shadow98> this is on a fresh install system..im trying to test backup and recover...so then i reload OS and try restore with tar -xvpzf /backup.tgz -C /
[02:24] <Crash1hd> mzz: I have 3 gigs of ram
[02:24] <lifeforce4> Crash1hd: No having to much swap space is never a problem because you cant.
[02:25] <divxclub> Does anyone can point me to site explaining how to PROPERLY install ATI drivers for R700 card . Or it's not available yet. ? Thank you !
[02:25] <mzz> Crash1hd: but if that's what the automatic partitioner suggests just let it do its thing
[02:25] <shadow98> i then get this error....tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[02:25] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Have you tried libbz2-dev?
[02:25] <Crash1hd> Im in manual mode
[02:25] <mzz> Crash1hd: it won't hurt, but it's imho not likely the system will be usable if you run something that makes it use up 3 GiB of swap.
[02:25] <saiki> Kubuntu__, not yet
[02:25] <lifeforce4> Crash1hd: 2GB is a good size to start with.
[02:25] <loxety> Apaxis, its most likely something with the video settings thats the issue.. tried counter-strike:source, left4dead, and COD 5
[02:25] <saiki> Kubuntu__, I didn't know it existed lol
[02:25] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Sometimes it may work sometimes not. I did find results for libbz2-dev
[02:26] <loxety> Apaxis, I get to the first part of the single player game in left4dead.. almost..
[02:26] <ice109> can someone help me, i've installed all the codecs necessary but still don't get video when trying to watch avis im vlc
[02:26] <Apaxis> loxety: all of the hl-based steam games are reported working on wine-reviews :p
[02:26] <saiki> Kubuntu__, here goes nothing lol
[02:26] <lifeforce4> does the livecd not detect hard drives? I cant see any hdX# or sdX# drives in /dev
[02:26] <mzz> ice109: if "codecs" means "gstreamer codecs" then that won't help vlc, it doesn't use gstreamer
[02:27] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Whats your application for libbz2?
[02:27] <umpop> any word on the 2.6.28 dmraid issue?
[02:27] <Lucas156> aren't there any interest specific rooms on any servers?
[02:27] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Unzip bz app?
[02:27] <ice109> mzz: movieplayer doesn't play em either
[02:27] <ice109> mzz: what codecs does vlc need?
[02:27] <Apaxis> loxety: and winehq, left4dead cod4 all of them, some require a certain version of the game to run ie cod4, burt check out those sites its pretty easy to follow
[02:27] <loxety> Apaxis, yeah I've played it before.. several years ago.  This is a new install of 9.04
[02:27] <mzz> ice109: I don't know how ubuntu packages it, sorry.
[02:27] <mattgyver> After i upgraded to 9.04 I could not access Windows networks, as well the computer was not visiible out to the network until i restarted samba.  Has anyone else had this issue?
[02:27] <mzz> ice109: (I don't know if there are separate codec packages you need to install)
[02:27] <ice109> mzz: the weird thing is i can see a thumbnail with the first frame
[02:27] <ice109> in the folder
[02:27] <loxety> Apaxis, Thank you
[02:27] <mzz> ice109: that's odd. I'd expect movie player (totem) to play them then.
[02:27] <saiki> Kubuntu__, ?
[02:28] <saiki> Kubuntu__, PCSX2
[02:28] <RHorse> ice109: there is a menu option that needs to be changed in vlc
[02:28] <mzz> ice109: afaik those thumbnails are generated through gstreamer, which is what totem uses. Might have to restart that after adding codecs.
[02:28] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Ohhhh! THAT! Ahahahha I remember trying to get that to work!
[02:28] <chuy_max> where can I see jaunty jackalope screenshots?
[02:28] <chuy_max> !screenshots
[02:28] <RHorse> ice109: it's a well known thing, and you can google it
[02:28] <ice109> RHorse: what is it
[02:28] <chuy_max> !screenshot
[02:28] <chuy_max> :(
[02:29] <ice109> RHorse: for it to use gstreamer codecs or what?
[02:29] <Roasted> jason8 - uh, its my name
[02:29] <Roasted> I'm having an rsync problem... when I run the script, I get an error that "failed to set times on /media/storagebackup/jason - operation not permitted." I own the script, its owned by jason. And I execute it without sudo. Is that a problem?? I thought I remember it working before without sudo just fine....
[02:29] <Apaxis> loxety: np, id like to see more people using linux as a gaming platform
[02:29] <saiki> Kubuntu__, and did you?
[02:29] <shadow98> this tar backup was supposed to be nice and easy..but its a pain...any other backup methods for backing up whole system....
[02:29] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, have you ever installed the open source ATI driver?
[02:30] <RHorse> ice109: http://www.google.com/search?q=vlc+avi+no+video&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[02:30] <|Jason8|> IT'S MY NAME, BRO
[02:30] <Kubuntu__> saiki: No, I gave up that was 2-3 yrs ago though. Lot's changed since then.
[02:30] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: I installed ubuntu once, so yes :)
[02:30] <admin_masu3701> chuy_max: did you try gimp?
[02:30] <Kubuntu__> saiki: I think i got the app working but couldnt find the Bios file it needed
[02:30] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, is it just me or do you never actually "install" something for it?
[02:30] <jimi_hendrix> but just edit your xorg.conf
[02:30] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: it should be used automatically if appropriate.
[02:30] <umpop> http://omploader.org/vMW1qbg  <-----jaunty jackalope screenshot.
[02:30] <lolzie9131> does anyone know of a msn client that has webcam support????
[02:31] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: what actual problem are you trying to solve again? Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[02:31] <umpop> amsn
[02:31] <umpop> yw
[02:31] <sedeki> I'm trying to burn ubuntu... nero complains about that I only have a DVD-R, i need a CD-R/RW
[02:31] <saiki> Kubuntu__, you need a PS2 bios for it
[02:31] <Crash1hd> lifeforce4: if I had 4 gigs or ram should I have 4 gigs of swap space cause I am planing on getting more ram
[02:31] <sedeki> is there anyway to get past this?
[02:31] <lifeforce4> Anyone know why when running Xubuntu from the CD it does not detect and mount the IDE HDD?
[02:31] <umpop> sedeki, go get a cd yw
[02:31] <ice109> RHorse: oh wow i can't believe it was that simple
[02:31] <Kubuntu__> saiki: I know, I own a ps2.
[02:31] <umpop> lifeforce4, not plugged it, yw
[02:31] <hellvis> #c-o-m
[02:31] <mzz> Crash1hd: again, imho 2 GiB or so is more than sufficient
[02:31] <loxety> Apaxis, looks like if I turn off pixel shader support in wine config it plays css ok
[02:31] <sedeki> umpop it is supposed to work with a dvd-r too
[02:31] <admin_masu3701> sedeki:  i think you need Cd-r
[02:31] <RHorse> ice109: been there,. done that :)
[02:31] <chuy_max> admin_masu3701, yes, I've tried it in the past :), I'm not very good with graphic design though
[02:31] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, uhh sure...i am not sure if it will be there...its more just very laggy windows
[02:32] <lifeforce4> Crash1hd: haha Not really 4GB of Swap would be a lot in my mind. And you probably wont susspend your sessions so I'd say 2GB.
[02:32] <hellvis> Ya des français ici ? :p
[02:32] <Pici> !fr | hellvis
[02:32] <Crash1hd> ok :)
[02:32] <mzz> Crash1hd: oh, lifeforce4 has a point, if you intend to suspend/resume you may want a bit more swap
[02:32] <saiki> Kubuntu__, you couldn't dump yours?
[02:32] <hellvis> #ubuntu-fr
[02:32]  * mzz always forgets about that one
[02:32] <rafael> hi all
[02:32] <Crash1hd> mzz: is that so that you dont runn into any issues that way
[02:32] <mzz> Crash1hd: (it'll still suspend with less swap than you have ram as long as not all your ram is in use when you suspend)
[02:32] <Kubuntu__> saiki: I was looking for one online i was too lazy to deal with it any other way i was just bored one day scanning the repo's for new soft to try
[02:32] <umpop> sedeki, nero is ghey, try infrarecorder.
[02:33] <rafael> anyone knows how to get audio back on firefox flash?
[02:33] <lifeforce4> umpop: It is plugged in I have the case open and other systems detect it yet when I do $mount I don't see /dev/hda#
[02:33] <umpop> sedeki, or just download the dvd version of bunters.
[02:33] <Crash1hd> mzz: ok :)
[02:33] <Crash1hd> that makes sense
[02:33] <umpop> lifeforce4, try dev /sd*
[02:33] <rafael> !flash
[02:33] <mzz> Crash1hd: more swap than ram really doesn't make sense if you have multiple GiB of ram imho, and less usually suffices
[02:33] <lifeforce4> umpop: already tried that which is why I asked.
[02:33] <admin_masu3701> chuy_max: you can try somthin else
[02:33] <Kubuntu__> mzz: Your supposed to do your amount of ram in swap thats what is suggested 2gb ram = 2gb swap or so
[02:34] <mzz> Kubuntu__: "supposed" isn't really true imho
[02:34] <chuy_max> admin_masu3701, I'm looking forward to see some jaunty jackalope screenshots before I upgrade
[02:34] <Kubuntu__> mzz: Suggested, w/e I usually did about 4gb
[02:34] <Dimensions> Hiya ... i am upgrading from edgy to feisty and after update its giving Kernel Panic VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block 0,0 ... please append a correct root= ... though its set to root=/dev/hda1 ...
[02:34]  * mzz shrugs
[02:34] <mzz> again, won't hurt, imho a bit wasteful of hd space for average use
[02:34] <Kubuntu__> mzz:  Thats what it said! :P
[02:34] <MaT-dg> I'm looking for a console irc client with xdcc capabilities
[02:35] <admin_masu3701> chuy_max: you still using 8.10?
[02:35] <nignaztic> is there a way i  can access or use my linux partion from windows vista
[02:35] <mzz> Dimensions: that sounds like grub isn't picking up the (right) initrd
[02:35] <syntax\> lo could anyone help me out with alignment in conky? here's the screenshot.. http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n94/deziiii/z.png
[02:35] <churl> in Jaunty, is there no longer the option to have "icons only" in the "task list"?  Since the upgrade, I can no longer find that option.  Am I just not looking in the right place?
[02:36] <chuy_max> admin_masu3701, yes, I barely use it now though. I love Linux for programming, but lately I've been very busy in work and school, I use Windows for work.
[02:36] <umpop> syntax\, try #conky
[02:36] <Crash1hd> Hmm I installed windows on the first 20 gigs so in here it says that its /dev/sda1 ntfs <-- is that right?
[02:36] <Crash1hd> and now swap is /dev/sda2
[02:36] <umpop> Crash1hd, yep
[02:36] <Crash1hd> for 2 gigs
[02:36] <h00k> I'm having some issues with an external (500gb ext2) and I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice.  I rsync'd my data to my external and needed to restore it.  I get "Stale NFS file handle" error when trying to copy it back.  I did e2fsck that lasted over 24 hours, my dmesg reported I/O errors (http://pastebin.com/d10511920) so I killed it.  I would like to get my data back and was wondering if anyone had any protips.
[02:36] <umpop> cracken226, yep
[02:36] <umpop> Crash1hd, yep
[02:36] <mzz> Crash1hd: that sounds sane
[02:37] <Crash1hd> ok so now what?
[02:37] <admin_masu3701> chuy_max: i see....i upgraded to jaunty but alot problems
[02:37] <Dimensions> mzz:  i tried changing that to /initrd.img but didn't work ... in grub its initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic ...
[02:37] <Crash1hd> do I do another primary>
[02:37] <mzz> h00k: "stale nfs file handle" is a pretty weird error message if there's no nfs involved. Does dmesg show anything more useful?
[02:37] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, http://pastebin.com/d51d274cb
[02:37] <mzz> Dimensions: can you pastebin your grub.conf?
[02:37] <syntax\> everyone's zzz :P @ umpop
[02:38] <admin_masu3701> can someone please help me with sound problems cause by flash player
[02:38] <Crash1hd> Should I use Ext3 or Ext4? what is Ext4?
[02:38] <MaT-dg> I'm looking for a terminal irc client with xdcc capabilities
[02:38] <chuy_max> admin_masu3701, ugh, that's not good, what problems are you having other than sound problems in flash?
[02:38] <admin_masu3701> cant hear sound when playing a video on youtube or other music site
[02:38] <Dimensions> how do i do that mzz ... it can only go to grub terminal ... can't access it otherwise ..
[02:38] <bonhoffer> is there an app to remove duplicate images in a directory structure based on hashing?
[02:39] <admin_masu3701> chuy_max: system freezes, slow, compiz dont work
[02:39] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: at a glance that looks healthy (using ati's closed driver). Is it always slow or just with compiz (aka desktop effects) on?
[02:39] <mzz> Dimensions: do you have an ubuntu live cd around?
[02:39] <jeffrey_> ok so
[02:39] <jeffrey_> no sound in ubuntu
[02:39] <voss> Imagine my surprise when connecting to a network printer is actually EASIER in Ubuntu 9.04 than in windows. Ubuntu automatically detects the network printer!
[02:39] <jeffrey_> cant figure it out. i have a dell vostro 220 and i went through all the steps on forums etc for fixing it but still no sound what should i do
[02:39] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, always
[02:39] <chuy_max> admin_masu3701, ughhh, I guess I will wait for a little bit more time, anyways I don't use it that often :p
[02:39] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, before, it never was
[02:39] <chuy_max> ad
[02:40] <rafael> helpw flash audio anyone?
[02:40] <Crash1hd> From what I am reading on wikipedia I should be using Ext4 any reason not too?
[02:40] <mzz> Crash1hd: ext4 is pretty new.
[02:40] <admin_masu3701> chuy_max: u use windows? PC sucks...lol..
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> Crash1hd: well, its really new....
[02:40] <mzz> Crash1hd: (meaning there may be bugs lurking that haven't been shaken out yet)
[02:40] <cuddlefish> Hello, anyone know how to get BerkeleyDB set up?
[02:40] <Crash1hd> Ahh right Like accessing it from windows
[02:40] <admin_masu3701> Crash1hd: you dont need to...
[02:40] <mattgyver> Crash1hd, there is a work around for that
[02:40] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: really still slow with desktop effects off? Is metacity compositing (I forgot if that's an option in your version of ubuntu)?
[02:41] <voss> crash, ext3 is proven and reliable. If your just experimenting sure use ext4, if you have to rely on that thing, then I wouldnt chance it
[02:41] <bonhoffer> i guess i want to remove all duplicates in a directory structure
[02:41] <cuddlefish> Crash1hd: it's technically experimental.
[02:41] <cuddlefish> Hello, anyone know how to get BerkeleyDB set up?
[02:41] <Dimensions> mzz ... i do BUT ... if that could boot i would have done fresh install ... its a Small form factor system.... 500MHz AMD ... and has problem with installation though once installed it works smoothly ... i had edgy server on it previously and was upgrading to feisty as i can install its gdm on it ...
[02:41] <Crash1hd> ok :) I will stick with ext3
[02:41] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, i have no clue
[02:41] <unop> bonhoffer, look into fdupes
[02:41] <chuy_max> admin_masu3701, well, I installed several programs for work for Windows that do not perform very good using wine, so I have to use Win
[02:42] <mzz> Dimensions: I'm not interested in using the livecd to install from, just to boot from. Are you low enough on ram that it won't boot off the livecd?
[02:42] <theCarpenter> If i try adn view folder size via nautilus' properties dialogue (right click on folder + properties), it seems to give different results if im inside the folder versus out of the folder.
[02:42] <bonhoffer> unop, will do -- do you know if it lets me look at pictures?
[02:42] <Crash1hd> Is there any reason to break up partitions &or mount points or just put the rest under /  ?
[02:42] <cuddlefish> Crash1hd: it's technically experimental.
[02:42] <theCarpenter> in particualr, if i right-click a particular folder and view its properties, it appears 5 gigs large, but if i enter the folder and select all the files, it says its 11 gigs large!
[02:42] <Sagaci> i've just lost sound in ubuntu, is there an easy way to diagnose why? speakers are turned on and volume is up an not muted
[02:42] <mattgyver> ext4 is experimental for ubuntu, but if i recall correctly several distros have made ext4 the standard filesystem for what its worth
[02:42] <admin_masu3701> chuy_max: ok i see..
[02:42] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: which ubuntu was it again? Can you ask the channel if your version of metacity does or doesn't have a compositor?
[02:42] <churl> alsamixer?
[02:42] <cuddlefish> Sagaci:run "alsa-config"
[02:42] <unop> bonhoffer,  no, not really, it's a command line thing .. for a GUI app, I think gthumb has something
[02:42] <cuddlefish> *mixer
[02:42] <cuddlefish> brain-o there
[02:42] <Dimensions> mzz i believe 256 on this machine
[02:42] <bonhoffer> unop,
[02:42] <bonhoffer> unop, thanks
[02:42] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: and you could try the open driver, but I don't remember the right way to switch, sorry
[02:43] <churl> wow, i knew something!
[02:43] <churl> in Jaunty, is there no longer the option to have "icons only" in the "task list"?  Since the upgrade, I can no longer find that option.
[02:43] <jimi_hendrix> does 8.04 have metacity that has compositing?
[02:43] <TheDJACR> How can I get localhost:400 to foward all traffic to otherhost:400
[02:43] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, i have an ubuntu guide i am following
[02:43] <mzz> Dimensions: do you remember if the livecd boots successfully? If it does you can mount partitions and pastebin from it
[02:43] <Sagaci> cuddlefish: in terminal?
[02:43] <cuddlefish> Sagaci: Yep!
[02:44] <majnoon> is there a way to restart pulseaudio i switched from kde to gnome now no sound
[02:44] <mattgyver> TheDJACR, you might have to config that via your router
[02:44] <Dimensions> mzz:  livecd doesn't boot ... there are some issues with its graphic card and works fine once generic kernel is installed ...
[02:44] <Sagaci> cuddlefish: bash: alsa-config: command not found
[02:44] <cuddlefish> Sagaci:  I meant alsamixer
[02:44] <Crash1hd> Should I just set the remainder of the drive to " / " or should I be splitting things up for /boot /home ect...
[02:44] <cuddlefish> braino
[02:44] <TheDJACR> mattgyver: I can't set ubuntu to redirect the traffic?
[02:44] <mzz> Dimensions: hmm, ok. Did you tab-complete the path to that initrd on the grub prompt?
[02:44] <Sagaci> cuddlefish: bash: alsamixer-config: command not found
[02:44] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, will you be on tomorrow?
[02:45] <cuddlefish> Sagaci: no config
[02:45] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: can't tell yet (at least not at what hours). Just mention my nick in here, I'll show up if I'm around
[02:45] <cuddlefish> just "alsamixer"
[02:45] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, ok
[02:45] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: (my client is connected pretty much 24/7 but I'm not always actually looking at it)
[02:45] <mattgyver> TheDJACR, you may be able to but I think the end all settings would still have to be configured to the router because its forwarding the traffic
[02:45] <jimi_hendrix> i am going to bed, good night
[02:45] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, same with mine
[02:45] <_duncan> Has anyone had issues installing the nvidia drivers for dual GTX260s on Ubuntu 9.04?
[02:45] <jeffrey_> cant get sound working in ubuntu. what should i do
[02:45] <Sagaci> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[02:46] <TheDJACR> mattgyver: No. I want any traffic sent to 127.0.0.1:port to be relayed to another computer.
[02:46] <TheDJACR> Like, a proxy.
[02:46] <taget_> anyone know how to reset amarok to all default settings, i cant seem to get the collections tab back on the screen
[02:46] <mattgyver> Oh, im not sure how to do that sorry :(
[02:46] <unop> TheDJACR, can you ssh to the other computer ?
[02:47] <TheDJACR> unop: No, windows.
[02:47] <_duncan> Anyone have experiance with Ubuntu 9.04 and GTX260s?
[02:47] <TheDJACR> :p
[02:47] <kohlrak> is there anyway to mount an ISO file so that it appears as if it were from a CD or DVD device (so cd and dvd ripper programs will notice it/burn to it)?
[02:47] <taget_> i have a gtx280 is that helps
[02:47] <unop> TheDJACR, maybe iptables can help you there then .
[02:47] <_duncan> taget_: Sure, same driver script I am assuming
[02:47] <Crash1hd> Hmm why does ubunto say that 1024mb = 1.9GB and not 2GB?
[02:47] <taget_> _duncan what do yo need to know
[02:48] <kohlrak> Crash1hd: it shouldn't even say 1.9gb.... 1024mb is 1 gib
[02:48] <unop> Crash1hd, 1024MB is 1GB .. dunno where those figures come from
[02:48] <_duncan> taget_: So I have attempted to install using the hardware drivers and it failed, and I am attempting to use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=990978 to install using the download
[02:48] <Crash1hd> ahh lol I ment 2048mb
[02:48] <_duncan> taget_: Should I be worried about anything?
[02:48] <h00k> I'm having some issues with an external (500gb ext2) and I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice.  I rsync'd my data to my external and needed to restore it.  I get "Stale NFS file handle" error when trying to copy it back.  I did e2fsck that lasted over 24 hours, my dmesg reported I/O errors (http://pastebin.com/d10511920) so I killed it.  I would like to get my data back and was wondering if anyone had any protips.
[02:48] <TheDJACR> How about this: I am running a subnet (192.168.2.1) off of my router. It can't access the SAMBA shares on (192.168.1.*). Any ideas/
[02:48] <Roasted> I'm having an rsync problem... when I run the script, I get an error that "failed to set times on /media/storagebackup/jason - operation not permitted." I own the script, its owned by jason. And I execute it without sudo. Is that a problem?? I thought I remember it working before without sudo just fine....
[02:48] <mibzzer15> for a file system, what exactly does a file swap mean?
[02:48] <Dimensions> mzz on / it lists initrd.img and on /boot it lists initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic .. initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic.bak and initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic-dpkg-bak ...
[02:49] <Crash1hd> My typo :) I ment to say why does it say 2048mb = 1.9 GB
[02:49] <mibzzer15> er sorry, a Linux Swap
[02:49] <taget_> _duncan did u try using the restricted driver for ubuntu ?
[02:49] <Crash1hd> and not 2048mb = 2GB?
[02:49] <_duncan> taget_: link?
[02:49] <_duncan> taget_: What version are you running?
[02:49] <Dimensions> mazz when i try booting /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic it gives that kernel panic error ... though the file is there ...
[02:49] <taget_> _duncan lemme check
[02:49] <rob> hello
[02:49]  * mzz mounts his ubuntu partition to check if /initrd.img is a symlink
[02:49] <rob> does anyone know if this bug has been fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/354389
[02:50] <stealth-> mibzzer15: swap is alternate ram. If your system runs out of aviable ram, it will start writing data to the harddrive the in swap area. swap is just ram thats on the harddrive, so of course its increadibly slow ram.
[02:50] <Seeker`> Crash1hd: Where does it say that? And it may be rounding up from 1023.9MB or something
[02:50] <taget_> _duncan im running 180.44
[02:50] <mibzzer15> oh ok thanks stealth
[02:50] <mzz> Dimensions: /initrd.img is a symlink. iirc grub can follow those just fine, but I don't remember if you can check where it points from the grub prompt
[02:50] <_duncan> taget_: How did you install them? kill x11, install and then reboot?
[02:50] <Crash1hd> Seeker`: it says it in the install partitiong stuff
[02:50] <stealth-> mibzzer15: swap is nessesary for hibernation, btw. It is recommended to have half as much swap as you have ram.
[02:51] <mzz> Dimensions: have you tried with an actual initrd from /boot/ (the one matching the kernel you're trying to boot)?
[02:51] <mibzzer15> ok
[02:51] <taget_> _duncan no its eaven easier than that, ill get you the link one sec
[02:51] <mzz> Dimensions: and does the output you get indicate the initrd is actually loaded successfully?
[02:51] <stealth-> mibzzer15: sorry i meant twice as much swap, but its not really important to have that much if you dont hibernate
[02:51] <Dimensions> yeah mzz thats one is in /boot but gives kernel error ...
[02:51] <_duncan> taget_: I wonder if it is my hardware, I am having such problems :-?
[02:52] <daisydude> hi all
[02:52] <daisydude> i recently upgraded to 9.04 and my vlc menu seems to be mangled...can someone help me
[02:52] <voss> stealth its usually easier just to add more real ram, 4gb is now less than $50
[02:52] <stealth-> voss: I know, I was explaining swap to someone
[02:53] <KalebsRevenge> hi got a question not strictly ubuntu but does anyone know a goood secure query event script for xchat? plz and ty
[02:53] <voss> stealth, I would think if someone has more than 2gb of memory in ubuntu they may be better off not having a swap partition.
[02:53] <daisydude> i recently upgraded to 9.04 and my vlc menu seems to be mangled...can someone help me
[02:53] <Anscombe> When I try to load ubuntu, i get this message along with many errors: "eth1: Failed to start the card."
[02:54] <Seeker`> yeah, 2x RAM is getting a bit silly now
[02:54] <majnoon> is there a way to restart pulseaudio i switched from kde to gnome now no sound
[02:54] <stealth-> voss: yeah, from what i've experienced. Except if you want to hibernate
[02:54] <leok> hey whats up folks
[02:54] <majnoon> is there a way to restart pulseaudio i switched from kde to gnome now no sound
[02:54] <leok> i have a quick question is it possible to disable Ipv6 in 9.04?
[02:54] <voss> stealth perhaps ubuntu can create a hibernate partition that does not function as a swap
[02:55] <Zapper> who knows alot about ubuntu herE?
[02:55] <mibzzer15> omg
[02:55] <leok> lol
[02:55] <leok> it depends the prob
[02:55] <admin_masu3701> majnoon: system --> preferences --> sound
[02:55] <stealth-> voss: im not sure, but that would be kinda pointless. then it would just be wasting space unless you hibernated, so why not have it as backup ram?
[02:55] <KB1JWQ> Zapper: Ask your question.
[02:55] <admin_masu3701> mjnoon: try to test sound and see which one work
[02:55] <stealth-> Zapper: alot of us, ask your question and we will answer it if we can
[02:56] <voss> stealth, in systems with SSDs they dont use swap files, so how do they hibernate?
[02:56] <Zapper> Is it true that if i run virtualbox in ubuntu 9.04  windows will be faster?
[02:56] <KB1JWQ> Zapper: As opposed to what?
[02:56] <red__> anyone know why openvz support removed from core in new ubuntu?
[02:56] <Zapper> running straight windows
[02:56] <KB1JWQ> Zapper: No.  That's not correct.
[02:56] <stealth-> voss: they don't use swap? why not? I have had experience with someone once who had SSD's and the system would not entirely power off when he hibernated
[02:57] <Zapper> ok
[02:57] <KB1JWQ> You're adding a layer of abstraction; best case you'll get minimal bottlenecking, but there'll be some.
[02:57] <KalebsRevenge> hi got a question not strictly ubuntu but does anyone know a goood secure query event script for xchat? plz and ty
[02:57] <Dimensions> mzz:  tried with backup'ed initrd ... and now the actual initrd goes upto running local boot scripts from rc.local and then black stops there ... its not hung but doing nothing ..
[02:57] <voss> stealth, swap files cause a lot of rewriting on SSDs shortens the life of them .
[02:57] <stealth-> Zapper: if anything it would be slower. Because your running two systems at the same time, not to mention the data has to go through ubuntu and be processed before it gets to windows
[02:57] <majnoon> admin_masu3701, it workd for THAT but nothing else :(
[02:57] <Sagaci> cuddlefish: i killed pulseaudio and it fixed it
[02:57] <hoymkot_> hi, i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 by automatic update, but the x-session fail to start, what can i do?
[02:57] <KB1JWQ> KalebsRevenge: Ask #xchat
[02:58] <KalebsRevenge> i did no response
[02:58] <KB1JWQ> hoymkot_: What error does it give in your logs?
[02:58] <admin_masu3701> majnoon: are you using AlSA?
[02:58] <voss> I know world of warcraft in wine is faster than vista.
[02:58] <Zapper> Second question, im administrating a internet cafe, they're running a windows server but i want to change. i want a linux based internet cafe management program, does anyone know of one that i could use; as windows is terribly insecure
[02:58] <KB1JWQ> KalebsRevenge: Ask your question and wait. :)
[02:58] <majnoon> i think so
[02:58] <KalebsRevenge> ive been there about half hour
[02:58] <KB1JWQ> Zapper: I don't know as I'd say that Windows is terribly insecure any more so than Ubuntu is; it depends on how you harden it.
[02:58] <Zapper> Ok
[02:59] <Zapper> Alot more people know how to exploit windows than ubuntu
[02:59] <TX-Dan> that's what she said?
[02:59] <KB1JWQ> Zapper: Not if you patch, don't run services you don't absolutely need, etc.
[02:59] <charzero> Is there a setup that will install grub that will read an image from a file on an NTFS partition, or something like that?
[02:59] <KB1JWQ> The trick is to minimize attack surface.
[02:59] <KB1JWQ> charzero: Take a step back.  What are you attempting to do? :)
[03:00] <majnoon> ok no know what me do but it WORKING now :)
[03:00] <voss> Ive never heard of a live Ubuntu virus.
[03:00] <stealth-> voss: thats because linux cant get them
[03:00] <stealth-> !virus | voss
[03:00] <majnoon> voss, it gets rid of windows
[03:00] <charzero> KB1JWQ: Install Ubuntu without breaking the existing Vista installation.
[03:00] <KB1JWQ> voss: No, but I HAVE heard of exploits for BIND, sendmail, apache, PHP, etc. :)
[03:00] <KB1JWQ> Not to mention the kernel itself.
[03:01] <nomasteryoda> not in the wild ... unlike windows 100,000 + viruses
[03:01] <nomasteryoda> those are patched very quickly in Linux
[03:01] <stealth-> KB1JWQ: windows is more highly exploited. Not to mention its vunerable to attacks were there doesn't even have to be a attacker there
[03:01] <Kubuntu__> hi
[03:01] <stealth-> !hi | Kubuntu__
[03:02] <Kubuntu__> Okay, Making sure it was working :D
[03:02] <KB1JWQ> The better question is "Why are you browsing from a server?" :)
[03:02] <SeanSov> Hello
[03:02] <voss> linux may be vunerable to attacks but a successful attack on a linux machine typically does not cause the linux machine to become inoperable
[03:02] <Kubuntu__> saiki: Hey, net dropped
[03:02] <saiki> np
[03:02] <coleys_> KB1JWQ: He can do whatever he wishes =p
[03:02] <KB1JWQ> voss: Neither does a successful attack on a Windows box, but...
[03:02] <KB1JWQ> coleys_: Fair enough. :)
[03:02] <charzero> voss: No, it just lets somebody read and delete everything in your home directory, which is everything important.
[03:02] <stealth-> voss: um... same with windows there. The attacks are designed to keep the system operatable so the attack has power over a working machine :P
[03:03] <nomasteryoda> all high-value Linux systems should have A/V of some sort... because they are more likely to be targets...
[03:03] <KB1JWQ> Take any OS, and let a moron use it.  It'll get owned sooner or later. :)
[03:03] <stealth-> This is turning into a flame war, would everyone please stop it and focus on the channels purpose?
[03:03] <nomasteryoda> so how can we be of assistance?
[03:03]  * nomasteryoda is not a bot
[03:03] <melvinram> i'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but I'll ask anyway: I just installed ubuntu 9.04 on my macbook pro using virtualbox. I want to connect from my osx terminal to the ubuntu virtual machine using ssh (so i can dry run remote deployments) ... how do I figure out the ip of my virtual ubuntu machine?
[03:04] <TX-Dan> ...
[03:04] <nomasteryoda> open a terminal and run netstat ?
[03:04] <nomasteryoda> nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 if that is the network you're on?
[03:05] <voss> Kb1, Thats what Macs are for, people with no tech saavy. :)
[03:05] <nomasteryoda> melvinram, it should also be in the settings file for that vm
[03:05] <KB1JWQ> voss: I use one myself.  Don't be too sure. :)
[03:05] <manux> pornhub is fine
[03:05] <KB1JWQ> ifconfig <-- from the terminal will show your IP
[03:06] <Flynsarmy> Is it possible to put a ui tabs inside another ui tabs? I'm trying it now but its stuffing up.
[03:06] <nomasteryoda> and route -n will show what it goes thru to get out
[03:06] <voss> Kb1, im not saying geeks dont own them im saying if you want to protect your network from the clueless let the get macs :)
[03:06] <TheShahFactor> manux: what?
[03:06] <bazhang> !ot
[03:06] <KB1JWQ> nomasteryoda: route -n isn't reliable in all of unixland; netstat -rn is more portable
[03:06] <KB1JWQ> Same data though.
[03:06] <Crash1hd> Woohoo Its taken almost a week and a bit but I finally have taken the plundge and jumped :) ubuntu is being installed :)
[03:06] <bonhoffer> i have a long pdf i need to sort and break into smaller pdf's any good apps for this?
[03:07] <eseven73> !yay | Crash1hd
[03:07] <voss> bonhoffer, you can always print a pdf to a pdf
[03:07] <TX-Dan> Crash1hd, woo!
[03:07] <Crash1hd> Channel get ready for questions lol :)
[03:07] <baconsalt> hi - I'm trying to get my streamzap remote to work with ubuntu.  I installed lirc and used mythbuntu-lirc-generator to make a .lircrc file.  When I run irw - I can see all the key presses.  But then nothing happens when I open vlc or any other app... the remove does nothing...  what am I doing wrong?
[03:07] <glitsj16> bonhoffer: if you don't mind a terminal tool, pdftk is capable of splitting pdf's etcetera
[03:07] <stealth-> Crash1hd: congratz, remember to come here for questions and dont be afraid to ask :P
[03:08] <baconsalt> *the remote does nothing
[03:08] <Crash1hd> stealth-: oh I wont :) but I do have google to ask too :)
[03:08] <melvinram> nomasteryoda: i did netstat and it didn't give me anything that i can use
[03:08] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: What's the issue? :)
[03:09] <melvinram> It outputs stuff like this:  b8f1110 stream      0      0        0  5b48908        0        0 /tmp/.vbox-melvinram-ipc/ipcd
[03:09] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: Take a step back.  What is the problem you're attempting to solve?
[03:09] <melvinram> KB1JWQ: I just installed ubuntu 9.04 on my macbook pro using virtualbox. I want to connect from my osx terminal to the ubuntu virtual machine using ssh (so i can dry run remote deployments) ... how do I figure out the ip of my virtual ubuntu machine?
[03:09] <baconsalt> does anyone know what step I'm missing?  everything I've read online says my setup should work.
[03:10] <baconsalt> but it does nothing :(
[03:10] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: SImple.  From within the virtual machine, run "ifconfig" from the terminal.
[03:10] <KB1JWQ> That'll show what the IP configuration of each interface is.
[03:10] <KB1JWQ> 127.0.0.1 is the loopback; that is NOT it.
[03:11] <felixsulla> Is there a way to disable only certain mouse buttons?
[03:11] <melvinram> ifconfig gives a bunch of stuff... is inet addr the ip?
[03:11] <KB1JWQ> It's likely a 192.168.0.0/16, 10.0.0.0/8, or a 172.16.0.0/12 IP add
[03:11] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: Yes.
[03:11] <mzz> melvinram: note you'll only be able to connect from the host to the guest if the guest's network is not nat-style (this is configured in the virtualbox machine settings). See the virtualbox manual.
[03:11] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Not so, it'll also work in bridge mode.
[03:11] <mzz> KB1JWQ: exactly. bridge mode is not nat-style.
[03:11] <melvinram> it gives an ip of 127.0.0.1
[03:11] <Roasted> Does rsync's "-a" function require root priviledges?
[03:11] <KB1JWQ> mzz: It'll work NAT style; the host and guest share a common network.
[03:12] <melvinram> Does that seem reasonable?
[03:12] <mzz> KB1JWQ: the version of virtualbox I'm looking at gives me 4 options there, with the default being nat, not bridged.
[03:12] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: Check the other interface. :)
[03:12] <stealth-> Im connecting to my irssi client through ssh. When the client should be beeping nothing is happening at the ssh server or my localhost. How can I enable it to beep?
[03:12] <melvinram> the other one is 10.0.2.15
[03:12] <KB1JWQ> You're looking at the loopback.
[03:12] <mzz> KB1JWQ: sorry, my wording is apparently crappy.
[03:12] <Crash1hd> Hmm Grub loading stage1.5 then it says grub loading, please wait... then Error 18?
[03:12] <LadyNikon> stealth-: www.irssi.org
[03:12] <baconsalt> i guess no one here knows how to setup lirc?
[03:12] <stealth-> LadyNikon: um... ?
[03:12]  * steffen is away: I'm busy
[03:12] <LadyNikon> stealth-: they have decent docs about irssi.
[03:12] <mzz> KB1JWQ, melvinram: if you go to settings -> network in virtualbox you'll see an "attached to" defaulting to "nat". You want that to be "bridged adapter" if you want to connect from host to guest.
[03:13] <eseven73> !away > steffen
[03:13] <KB1JWQ> mzz: No worries.  Try "If you're attempting to talk to it from OTHER hosts, you'll want it in Bridged mode so remote boxes ont he same network can see it."
[03:13] <mzz> KB1JWQ: correct that if it's still worded incorrectly please.
[03:13] <TX-Dan> Amarok question! I can hear files in my library, but can hear nothing from the internet radio function... even though it appears to be playing...thoughts?
[03:13] <fido> hola
[03:13] <melvinram> mzz: thanks... let me try that
[03:13] <fido> hoal
[03:13] <Kubuntu__> KB1JWQ:  Are you a HAM?
[03:13] <mzz> KB1JWQ: err, what? Let me check if that works, because I'm pretty sure it didn't when I tried it
[03:13] <KB1JWQ> Kubuntu__: I am.
[03:13] <fido> alguien en español
[03:13] <eseven73> !es | fido
[03:13] <stealth-> LadyNikon: not sure it would fit into my situation. I think mine is about ubuntu interpreting the signal
[03:13] <KB1JWQ> Passed my General this weekend.
[03:13] <Kubuntu__> KB1JWQ: Cool. I wanted to get my license.
[03:14] <stealth-> !ot | KB1JWQ Kubuntu__
[03:14] <KB1JWQ> Kubuntu__: No reason not to; they dropped the morse code requirement a couple years ago.
[03:14] <Purechaos> Hello, I am trying to figure out how to get my dual boot machine (Ubuntu-Vista, side by side) to default to booting to Vista. Can someone help me?
[03:14] <stealth-> !install | Purechaos this might help
[03:15] <melvinram> mzz: i restarted the ubuntu machine with bridge mode and i did ifconfig and it's not giving me an ip
[03:15] <kernl> 365884873
[03:15] <baconsalt> Purechaos: have you installed ubuntu or vista first?
[03:15] <melvinram> it gives a funky inet6 address: fe80::100...... etc etc
[03:15] <Roasted> Does rsync's "-a" function require root priviledges?
[03:15] <Purechaos> Vista, then I installed Ubuntu and it defaults to an Ubuntu bootloader but the default option is Ubuntu, I want Vista to be the default
[03:16] <mzz> KB1JWQ: are you absolutely sure "nat" suffices (you don't need bridged mode) to connect from the host system to the guest? Both my memory and a quick experiment give me "destination net unreachable"...
[03:16] <admin_masu3701> whats a good browser out there for linux?
[03:16] <baconsalt> purechaos: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:16] <stealth->  admin_masu3701 firefox
[03:16] <coleys> admin_masu3701: Firefox =)
[03:16] <mzz> melvinram: can the ubuntu system access the rest of the world?
[03:16] <RHorse> !pastebin | melvinram
[03:16] <charzero> admin_masu3701: Konqueror
[03:16] <admin_masu3701> having problems with firefox
[03:16] <h00k> mzz: course
[03:16] <melvinram> it used to be able to... so let me check again
[03:16] <stealth-> charzero: konqueror is a terrible browser.
[03:16] <coleys> admin_masu3701: Opera
[03:17] <coleys> admin_masu3701: Never konqueror =p
[03:17] <melvinram> no, not any more
[03:17] <mzz> h00k: what was that a reply to?
[03:17] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Quite.  Under VMWare Fusion (what I'm using right now) it builds a new network that they talk across, in the 172.16.0.0/12 range.  I can talk across it provided I turn iptables off. :)
[03:17] <charzero> stealth-: It is fast and has great standards compliance.
[03:17] <Crash1hd> coleys: so I am getting an error Grub loading stage1.5 Error 18 any idea?
[03:17] <h00k> mzz: nevermind, I'm an idiot :)
[03:17] <melvinram> before i switched to bridge, it was able to
[03:17] <admin_masu3701> what about swiftfox?
[03:17] <stealth-> charzero: it is integrated well, but however it lags on youtube with my nvidia 2gb ram system
[03:17] <mzz> KB1JWQ: yes, but I just tried this in virtualbox, and it really doesn't work here. Are you sure virtualbox "nat" means the same thing vmware fusion "nat" does?
[03:18] <mibzzer15> what file system/format should ubuntu be?
[03:18] <charzero> stealth-: Could be. I do not use flash.
[03:18] <coleys> Crash1hd: Hum, install went well? Were you editing grub.lst?
[03:18] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Quite.  Are you SURE ports are open?
[03:18] <unop> mibzzer15, the one that suits you ??
[03:18] <KB1JWQ> You have to make sure traffic routes properly too.
[03:18] <mzz> KB1JWQ: iptables is not built into the kernel on this system. Let me check the virtualbox manual myself. I thought I understood what those two options meant...
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: probably the most stable, is ext3..
[03:18] <mibzzer15> unop: if i am a first time user, what should i pick
[03:18] <Crash1hd> coleys: install went fine rebooted and got the error
[03:18] <mibzzer15> most stable ext3, ok thanks
[03:18] <melvinram> mzz: let me try changing the adapter type to t server
[03:18] <unop> mibzzer15, ext3
[03:19] <coleys> Crash1hd: Feel like wasting another 20 mins =p?
[03:19] <Crash1hd> seems that I have to create a small /boot directory and not just put all of / in the remainder of the drive
[03:19] <Crash1hd> coleys: sure
[03:19] <mibzzer15> Ext3 journaling file system system???
[03:19] <coleys> Crash1hd: Cause, I would just suggest a fresh install.
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: yes.
[03:19] <mibzzer15> ok
[03:19] <coleys> Crash1hd: You can delete your linux partition from within the LiveCD. And then just install.
[03:19] <Zuph> Having trouble with jaunty.  Running radeon driver with an odd HDTV.  I have the necessary modeline, but regardless of how I change the "display" subsection in xorg.conf, it reverts to 640x480.
[03:19] <Crash1hd> coleys: lol figures
[03:19] <Stanlin> HELP! I have KVM on ubuntu, but when i open Virtual Machine Manager, the virtualization method is Greyed. Therefore I cant add or see the CD. What is wrong?
[03:19] <melvinram> mzz: that didn't work either
[03:20] <coleys> Crash1hd: D:
[03:20] <Crash1hd> coleys: its a 1TB drive
[03:20] <melvinram> KB1JWQ: so what do you suggest?
[03:20] <Crash1hd> coleys: Im not supprised there are issues
[03:20] <mibzzer15> what should my mount point be?
[03:20] <Purechaos> @baconsalt: How do I save changes to /boot/grub/menu.lst ? It says I don't have permission
[03:20] <Stanlin> help?
[03:20] <mzz> melvinram: give me a second to check if I'm nuts about what "nat" means. For now just change back to that, which will at least allow the guest to access the rest of the world again
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: well, that depends... probably the easiest, is to just set the mount point as /
[03:20] <mibzzer15> ok
[03:20] <xxploit> Purechaos, open the menu.list with sudo
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: did you create a swap partition?
[03:21] <xxploit> Purechaos, then after making changes uses sudo update-grub
[03:21] <coleys> Crash1hd: Um wow. =p I don't even know lol 1 tb... that's unreal... I would assume ubuntu could handle it, but who knows lol.
[03:21] <iliketofrolic666> how do I mount an NTFS drive?
[03:21] <Roasted> Does rsync's "-a" function require root priviledges?
[03:21] <TX-Dan> coleys: 1TB isn't such a big deal anymore ;P
[03:21] <Crash1hd> coleys: yep well the price was good 100$ :) cant beat that
[03:21] <Purechaos> sorry, I don't know the command, what would it be "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" ?
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> iliketofrolic666: it should just automount
[03:21] <racecar56> i picked the wrong place in the setup, and now ubuntu is playing with my bios clock! im so mad... what do i do to make ubuntu stop fooling with the bios and sync TO the bios!
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> choose the ntfs drive from places menu..
[03:22] <coleys> TX-Dan: it is for me =)
[03:22] <mibzzer15> IndyGunFreak: ummmmm
[03:22] <xxploit> Purechaos, yes
[03:22] <TX-Dan> coleys, I'm in media production, we go through those like candy ;) HD tech needs to move faster :D
[03:22] <coleys> Crash1hd: Anyways try a fresh install, if it fails again we'll trouble shoot =p
[03:22] <bobstro> Crash1hd:  does it sound like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26741.html
[03:22] <Stanlin> S.O.S. I have KVM on ubuntu, but when i open Virtual Machine Manager, the virtualization method is Greyed. Therefore I cant add or see the CD. What is wrong?
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: its probably not 100% necessary.. whats the specs of your PC?
[03:22] <coleys> TX-Dan: Candy terabytes Mmmmm.
[03:22] <TX-Dan> coleys: hahah
[03:22] <iliketofrolic666> hmm ntfs didn't automount
[03:23] <mzz> melvinram, KB1JWQ: I'm pretty sure that you need to explicitly forward ports in VirtualBox if you use "NAT" as network type and want to connect from the host to the guest (not vice versa). See section 6.4.1 (Configuring port forwarding with NAT) in the virtualbox manual.
[03:23] <voss> TX-Dan, 1gb external $119
[03:23] <coleys> iliketofrolic666: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[03:23] <racecar56> ntfs-3g
[03:23] <mibzzer15> i dont know by heart, im in the ubuntu install right now
[03:23] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Yes, but only if you want external hosts to hit that port.  You can hit the NATted network from the host easily. :)
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: do you know how much ram it has?
[03:23] <mibzzer15> 1gb maybe
[03:23] <wizardslovak> hello people
[03:23] <iliketofrolic666> coleys: thanks installing now
[03:23] <racecar56> i picked the wrong place in the setup, and now ubuntu is playing with my bios clock! how do i make ubuntu realize i'm from GMT -6 and NOT Africa?
[03:23] <TX-Dan> voss, huh?
[03:23] <wizardslovak> i got a question
[03:23] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: Make sure that SSHD is listening, and port 22 is open in your iptables config.
[03:24] <voss> Oops I meant 1 tb external $119 :)
[03:24] <wizardslovak> my audio doesnt work when i watch youtube,
[03:24] <Crash1hd> bobstro: exactly like that
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: are you setting up a traditional dual boot system, or are you still trying to install to an external drive?
[03:24] <qcjn> can't uninstall mpd, dit with synaptic, did sudo apt-get autoremove --purge mpd, nothing doesit ??
[03:24] <mzz> KB1JWQ: I really can't, at least not on this system, running VirtualBox 2.2.2, and the virtualbox manual agrees with me (see the section I just mentioned). Are you sure you tried this in virtualbox, and are connecting from the host to the guest (the guest talking to the host's sshd will work just fine, obviously)?
[03:24] <bobstro> Crash1hd:  seems a reinstall would get same result, or?
[03:24] <TX-Dan> voss, yea just bought 2 the other day, only problem is 1TB is only backup for 3 clients projects
[03:24] <coleys> iliketofrolic666: Np :) It'll be located at Sys > Administation > Ntfs Config (Check the drive you want to automount, then enter it's name where you can enter text, like Vista or w/e)
[03:24] <melvinram> KB1JWQ: well before we get to iptables, i need to figure out what the ip of the virtual machine is
[03:24] <mibzzer15> IndyGunFreak: external
[03:24] <voss> 1.5 gb seagate internals are going for $129 on newegg
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: ok..
[03:24] <KB1JWQ> mzz: melvinram is right.  Let's take a step back first. :)
[03:25] <wizardslovak> anyone?
[03:25] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: Paste the output of ifconfig to a pastebin, please.  From the guest.
[03:25] <racecar56> i picked the wrong place in the setup, and now ubuntu is playing with my bios clock! it's screwing my computer up and i had to go through TEN AUTO-FSCKS because of this!
[03:25] <Seeker`> TX-Dan: voss: Can you take the harddrive price discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere similar please?
[03:25] <TX-Dan> voss, yea but maxtor guts...fail a lot more than they used to =( I can't lose a backup of a clients 20,000 project.
[03:25] <bobstro> Crash1hd:  there's several posts on the forums archives that sound similar
[03:25] <mzz> melvinram: make sure you reconfigure to nat (and reboot the guest) before doing so.
[03:25] <Crash1hd> bobstro: coleys can I set the /boot to load on its own partition?
[03:25] <melvinram> thats another prob... copy paste doesn't work
[03:25] <neil_d> I would like to design a schematic and pcb what is the recommended software?
[03:25] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: justso you know, everytime i've only done that one time, but i had to use the alternate install cd.. and the OS was slow.. don't know if it was because of the USB bus speed, or what
[03:25] <melvinram> in the guest machine
[03:25] <racecar56> TX-Dan: i have a supposively dead maxtor drive :(
[03:25] <TX-Dan> Seeker`, Sure thing, sorry about that.
[03:25] <unop> neil_d, pcb is?
[03:26] <mibzzer15> IndyGunFreak: ok thx
[03:26] <mzz> melvinram: if you have the guest reconfigured to nat you should be able to just pastebin from completely inside the guest, no need for host <-> guest copy/paste
[03:26] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: ifconfig | pastebinit will return a result.
[03:26] <bobstro> Crash1hd:  that shuold work, yes. just pointing out some of the detail there. i had something similar a couple of years ago.
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: i still think you'd be better off, using that external drive to backup files, etc.., then just partition your drive like normal people.
[03:26] <coleys> Crash1hd: im not to sure about non guided installs, I wouldn't be the best person to ask. I know software, and config... Not the other stuff =p
[03:26] <melvinram> mzz: i'm running ubuntu server so it's not giving me a gui
[03:26] <neil_d> unop: ok I will give it a try.
[03:26] <mzz> melvinram: what KB1JWQ said
[03:26] <Crash1hd> ok going to try and modify the boot dir :)
[03:26] <racecar56> i picked the wrong place in the setup, and now ubuntu is playing with my bios clock! it's screwing my computer up and i had to go through TEN AUTO-FSCKS because of this! i'm in irssi so its hard to see your message, so please try to make it easy to notice
[03:27] <coleys> Crash1hd: Good luck with that =) Maybe you'll teach me in the future =p
[03:27] <Crash1hd> seems to be that my bios / ubuntu somewhere doesnt like the boot drive being on a 900gig drive
[03:27] <zeno> when the stuff on my screen is mostly black my monitor dims.  is this a hardware of software issue?
[03:27] <melvinram> k let me try that
[03:27] <Crash1hd> So the next question is what size should /boot be ????
[03:27] <KB1JWQ> Crash1hd: I usually give it 100 to 200 megs.
[03:28] <mzz> Crash1hd: 100MiB is usually plenty imho
[03:28] <eseven73> racecar56, typing /lastlog racecar56 should show you any message people type to you , assuming they put your nick first
[03:28] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Does Ubuntu like to keep older kernels around after updates?
[03:28] <dannz> i cant get WOL to work.. broadcom BCM5782
[03:28] <KB1JWQ> I've had /boot fill up on Fedora like that.
[03:28] <Seeker`> zeno: are you sure it isn't just because it is mostly black; with black being a darker colour than the rest of them?
[03:28] <Crash1hd> mzz: KB1JWQ ok :) any reason to do 200 mb over 100?
[03:28] <mzz> KB1JWQ: I'm not sure (I'm not even in ubuntu currently, and my actual /boot isn't mounted in my ubuntu install)
[03:28] <KB1JWQ> Crash1hd: Depends on if Ubuntu keeps older kernels around that'll fill up /boot.
[03:28] <Crash1hd> coleys: :) lol I am a fast learner :)
[03:29] <mzz> KB1JWQ: actually, iirc it does unless you wipe them
[03:29] <mzz> KB1JWQ: (uninstall the old packages, that is)
[03:29] <KB1JWQ> I'm new to Ubuntu this week, but I've done Linux / Unix for five years.
[03:29] <melvinram> http://pastebin.com/f35102a73
[03:29] <Soviet_Bob> I'm using xubuntu 8.04, and want to create a forum. Not expecting a lot of users.. any tips here? I've got apache installed, but not sure where to go from there.. on windows 2k3, I installed PHP and MySQL and what not, it was pretty easy.
[03:29] <iliketofrolic666> coleys: is writing to NTFS from linux safe?
[03:29] <Crash1hd> mzz: KB1JWQ ahh ok :) I can give it 200mb :) just for the hell of it :)
[03:29] <mzz> iliketofrolic666: using ntfs-3g: yes. Iirc ubuntu uses that one by default to mount ntfs
[03:29] <KB1JWQ> Soviet_Bob: Same theory.  Those same things work better (read as: natively) under Linux.
[03:30] <eseven73> !lamp | Soviet_Bob (start with this then look into installing phpbb forums once you do all that
[03:30] <coleys> iliketofrolic666: I've had no problems, just don't delete windows system files =p
[03:30] <KB1JWQ> mzz: If that's true, that's FANTASTIC.  I'm tired of ntfs being read only by default.
[03:30] <mzz> Soviet_Bob: obviously use the package manager to install them, don't go downloading tarballs off php.net etc
[03:30] <neil_d> why when download a large file, does it stop other things using the internet like firefox?
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: here's an easy setup... i forgot to just capture the gparted window, but there's my partition setup on my laptop.. its really easy to partition a drive, and you'll have a lot less "issues"...
[03:30] <Soviet_Bob> Thank you. *tried sudo apt-get install php, and it couldn't find it*
[03:30] <KB1JWQ> neil_d: It shouldn't, but it might slow things down.
[03:30] <mzz> KB1JWQ: pretty sure I didn't do anything special to get ntfs mounted readwrite using ntfs-3g in ubuntu 8.04, but it's been a while
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/partition.jpg
[03:31] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Yeah, the default ntfs in other distros' kernels isn't ntfs-3g, so it's read only.  Nice job on Ubuntu's part.
[03:31] <Crash1hd> Hmm should /boot be before or after the swap?
[03:31] <Roasted> whos good wtih rsync? Does rsync with the -a switch need root to run?
[03:31] <mzz> Crash1hd: if in doubt put it before
[03:31] <Soviet_Bob> and I see why thanks to that link!
[03:31] <unop> Roasted, yes if you want to preserve permissions .. which is what -a does.
[03:32] <neil_d> KB1JWQ: the download is going fine, but firefox can load pages.
[03:32] <HollywoodJumper> hello all
[03:32] <racecar56> i'm really mad because ubuntu is changing my bios clock, and ubuntu thinks it is 2:32 AM! i REALLY want to fix this....
[03:32] <Roasted> unop - Hm, that explains a lot then. Do you happen to know, or have a link of some sort, if there is anything else besides the -a switch that requires root permissions just so I know?
[03:32] <nickolaus> I just reinstalled ubuntu and I'm trying to get Hulu and such working again. Any ideas how to get most of the streaming sites to work?
[03:32] <melvinram> KB1JWQ & mzz: http://pastebin.com/f35102a73
[03:32] <mzz> racecar56: sounds like you got the bios clock in utc question wrong, but I don't know where to fix that in ubuntu
[03:32] <Stanlin> How to make an ISO image?
[03:32] <eseven73> !iso
[03:32] <smithsr93> Hello,   I have tried installing Alt ubuntu AMD 64, but am unable to upgrade without system locking up suspect it is is ASRock Motherboard 790GXH/128 but still having now luck.  Have tried other distros, without any issues.  Anyone have suggestions?
[03:32] <zeno> Seeker`: yes completely.  the non-black area fades to barely visible
[03:32] <mzz> melvinram: "inet addr:10.0.2.15"
[03:32] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: :10.0.2.15 is your IP
[03:33] <racecar56> mzz, no, i tried changing bios clock then ubuntu craps it again
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> Stanlin: you trying to make one, or trying to put one on a CD/USB device?
[03:33] <Seeker`> zeno: no idea then
[03:33] <KB1JWQ> Drop the colon. :)
[03:33] <Stanlin> cof cof... How to MAKE  an ISO image?
[03:33] <KB1JWQ> Stanlin: From what?
[03:33] <zeno> is it a compiz thing maybe?
[03:33] <Stanlin> from a CD
[03:33] <racecar56> i can't believe ubuntu is actually doing this... this seems like a windows-like problem
[03:33] <KB1JWQ> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/myiso.iso bs=1m
[03:33] <mzz> zeno: compiz does sort of fade out windows that are not responding
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> Stanlin: ok.. i know it sounded stupid.. but you'd be amazed at the questions in here.
[03:33] <mzz> racecar56: same answer still applies
[03:34] <melvinram> KB1JWQ & mzz: if i try to ping it from osx terminal, it just hangs at: PING 10.0.2.15 (10.0.2.15): 56 data bytes
[03:34] <neil_d> Stanlin: Brasero can
[03:34] <Stanlin> IndyGunFreak: i know bro, but i like ubuntu, and hibernation seems to work, so ill use it now
[03:34] <Stanlin> neil_d: thanks bunches
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> Stanlin: understood.
[03:34] <racecar56> mzz, so what DO i do?
[03:34] <KB1JWQ> melvinram: iptables might be killing ICMP echos.
[03:34] <melvinram> k let me go into that
[03:34] <mzz> Stanlin: from an existing cd or an existing bunch of files? for the cd just cp (or dd)-ing the entry in /dev/ (try /dev/sr0) works for non-copyprotected cds
[03:34] <unop> Roasted, -o -X -g -A --super  and any other option that involves privileges not held by the current user i.e. --delete, --prune, etc
[03:34] <mzz> racecar56: ask the channel, sorry
[03:35] <RedSocrates> racecar56: I think I can help you.  Tell me again what your problem is exactly?
[03:35] <wizardslovak> can anyone help me with audio problems?????????????????????/
[03:35] <racecar56> i'm really mad because ubuntu is changing my bios clock, and ubuntu thinks it is 2:32 AM! my clock 'argues' with other OS too! i'm so sick of this
[03:35] <mzz> racecar56: "date -u" currently *is* 02:35. If you only have ubuntu on that system you can just leave it as it currently is (that's assuming the time shows up correctly in ubuntu)
[03:35] <Roasted> unop - Do you know if theres ANY way to keep permissions without using root? I REALLY want to avoid using root....
[03:35] <mzz> racecar56: if you dual-boot with windows you'll want to reconfigure ubuntu to store the time as localtime, not utc, but I don't know how to do that.
[03:36] <racecar56> mzz, i dont do windows
[03:36] <Stanlin> IndyGunFreak: quick question, why Virtual machine manager, is showing the virtualization types, greyed? KVM
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> racecar56: i don't know how ubuntu woudl change your bios clock.. i've certainly never had an issue like that
[03:36] <TonyTheTiger> Is there an easy way i can upgrade from ubuntu 8:10 to the latest ubuntu release without comepletely re-installing the OS?
[03:36] <mzz> racecar56: then as long as the time is displayed correctly in ubuntu just ignore what it looks like in the bios.
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> Stanlin: i don't do Virtual machines.. sorry
[03:36] <unop> Roasted,  i don't think there is any way .. the only user that can set proper permissions, ownership, etc on any arbitrary object is root
[03:36] <racecar56> mzz, bios == right and ubuntu == wrong
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> !upgrade | TonyTheTiger
[03:36] <racecar56> mzz, then ubuntu fools with the bios and makes BOT wrong
[03:36] <Roasted> unop - that makes sense... thanks for the tip
[03:36] <RedSocrates> racecar56: one second
[03:36] <racecar56> mzz, *both
[03:36] <mzz> racecar56: set the time correctly once in ubuntu then (by hand)
[03:37] <Stanlin> racecar56: i have the same problem dude
[03:37] <racecar56> mzz, next reboot it resets
[03:37] <grass0101> Hello... have a question if anyone might be able to help:  I've just upgraded to jaunty from intrepid, on intrepid I used the alt disc to install, and setup a RAID between two drives.   When I upgraded to jaunty, i didn't have the alt disc.  I know how to assemble the raid drive with mdadm and how to mount it, but i don't know how to modify fstab to make it mount automatically each boot.  ?
[03:37] <millertimek1a2m3> I just installed 9.04
[03:37] <millertimek1a2m3> and my compiz couldn't be enabled...
[03:37] <racecar56> Stanlin, can't believe it, VERY dumb problem
[03:37] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Set the clock correctly in Ubuntu first.  Let me know when you've done that.
[03:37] <millertimek1a2m3> nor could emerald
[03:37] <KB1JWQ> grass0101: Using mdm?
[03:37] <mzz> racecar56: ask the channel again. I can think of some reasons for this, but I don't know where this is configured in ubuntu (if it syncs off a network server, what your local timezone is, etc)
[03:37] <racecar56> RedSocrates, i tried that like 20 times and then when i reboot it resets it
[03:37] <nztal> is link aggregation (link bonding) broken in jaunty ?
[03:37] <RedSocrates> racecar56: I'm going to tell you what I think will prevent it from resetting
[03:37] <Stanlin> racecar56: not dumb, its me the dumb, i just need to make a new kernel
[03:38] <TonyTheTiger> IndyGunFreak, I cant update my ubuntu so how can i still upgrade?
[03:38] <mzz> racecar56: actually, output of "ls -l /etc/localtime"?
[03:38] <racecar56> mzz, i have GMT -6 in RL, it thinks im in Africa
[03:38] <IndyGunFreak> TonyTheTiger: why can you not update it?
[03:38] <fijal> hi
[03:38] <iliketofrolic666> when I delete something on my NTFS drive it tries to copy it to my trash (on another HDD) how do I delete it permanently instead?
[03:38] <racecar56> mzz, or something ridiculous/inaccurate like that
[03:39] <grass0101> yeah, i used mdadm to manually assemble the raid array, but i want to set it up to auto assemble and mount when i boot
[03:39] <Crash1hd> Allright creating a 250 mb boot partition infront of my 2 gig swap :)
[03:39] <mzz> melvinram: what happens when you try to ssh to it?
[03:39] <andresinix> millertimek1a2m3, did you try sudo apt-get install compiz-settins-manager?
[03:39] <Crash1hd> now how do I tell the system that its the boot partition
[03:39] <grass0101> alt did that for me, doing manual partition but i didn't use alt to install
[03:39] <millertimek1a2m3> adresinix: yes ccsm
[03:39] <racecar56> mzz, i remember having to change my /etc/apt/sources.list from 'eh.blahblah.ubuntu.com' to 'us.blahblah.ubuntu.com'
[03:39] <TonyTheTiger> IndyGunFreak, Whenever I have tried its always not been able to do it, cant connect to files and what not. Im behind a lan proxy so using the gui for updating has never worked well. Infact installing and updating doesnt go well as they all download files themselves.
[03:39] <melvinram> mzz: it just hangs
[03:39] <melvinram> here is my iptables
[03:39] <melvinram> http://pastebin.com/f65b10c04
[03:39] <millertimek1a2m3> andresinix: i don't think you spelled the command right
[03:40] <mzz> melvinram: have you read the section of the virtualbox manual I mentioned earlier, and what version of virtualbox is this?
[03:40] <melvinram> for the guest machine
[03:40] <RedSocrates> racecar56: What happens when you type, at the command line, "sudo hwclock --localtime"?
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate | TonyTheTiger only thing i could suggest, would be using the alternate install CD to update your system..
[03:40] <melvinram> 2.2.2
[03:40] <mzz> melvinram: that's ssh_config, not iptables
[03:40] <racecar56> RedSocrates, Mon 04 May 2009 09:40:24 PM WET  -0.539686 seconds (its right....)
[03:40] <melvinram> oops
[03:41] <barqers> Can someone help me please? I just installed Vista over my XP partition, which installed over grub. When I boot off a live cd and enter terminal, and use the command setup (hd1) I get an error 17: cannot mount selected partition error... How Can I install grub back?!
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> TonyTheTiger: are you using 8.10?
[03:41] <TonyTheTiger> IndyGunFreak, yes.
[03:41] <IndyGunFreak> TonyTheTiger: weird.
[03:41] <racecar56> barqers, easy to fix
[03:41] <Stanlin> racecar56: so i think we agree you with me, we are the Dumbs
[03:41] <mzz> barqers: you normally need a "root" command before that. What did you say there?
[03:41] <racecar56> Stanlin, yea
[03:41] <racecar56> barqers, really easy
[03:41] <racecar56> barqers, want me to tell you?
[03:41] <HollywoodJumper> how do i check the version of ubuntu i am running?
[03:42] <josh977> cat /etc/issue
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: lsb_release -a ina terminal
[03:42] <eseven73> HollywoodJumper, lsb_release -a
[03:42] <racecar56> barqers, trash windows
[03:42] <TonyTheTiger> IndyGunFreak, Its not so wierd, as Initially ubuntu was useless, after i set up the proxy's it functions somewhat but installing files is always a pain as one or 2 files always have an issue. Sucks to be behind a proxy lan.
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:42] <HollywoodJumper> thanks
[03:42] <mzz> racecar56: he'd still have to reinstall grub afterwards :P
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> cool
[03:42] <barqers> mzz: I did root (hd1) and then tried setup (hd1) and it still produces that error. same when I try, root(hd0) and setup (hd0)
[03:42] <andresinix> millertimek1a2m3, perhaps, I'm pretty new... then you have installed it and go to System - Preferences - CompizConfig Settins Manager?
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> TonyTheTiger: guess so.
[03:42] <grass0101> any ideas on fstab? I know i need to locate the uuid of the /dev/md0, but don't know how to do that
[03:42] <millertimek1a2m3> andresinix: yes
[03:43] <barqers> racecar56: Lol, I wish, but I need it for my computers class. Learning Visual basic and C++ coding.
[03:43] <RedSocrates> And racecar56, what is the output of "date"?
[03:43] <mzz> barqers: you normally need something like root (hdA,B), where A is the number of the drive (0 if in doubt) and B is the number of the partition (can't help you with that one)
[03:43] <millertimek1a2m3> i ran the command in the terminal the skip check one adresinix and it worked
[03:43] <sedeki> I think my graphics is a bit slow in ubuntu compared to windows
[03:43] <mzz> barqers: what does "find initrd.img" say?
[03:43] <racecar56> barqers, kay... might consider a VM of windows
[03:43] <millertimek1a2m3> adresinix: for emerald, but compiz isn't loading
[03:43] <melvinram> KB1JWQ & mzz: iptables http://pastebin.com/fb6cdcea
[03:43] <racecar56> RedSocrates, Mon May  4 21:43:16 WET 2009
[03:43] <racecar56> RedSocrates, its right too
[03:43] <racecar56> RedSocrates, wait, i know why
[03:43] <racecar56> RedSocrates, i manally set the clock\
[03:44] <racecar56> RedSocrates, im gonna reboot
[03:44] <Gadu> ok, got Hardy 64-bit installed and looking to install the ATI drive from the AMD site. apparently I need some 32-bit packages installed though. what do I need to install?
[03:44] <droopy-ze-dog> when scp'ing large files over wifi, my laptop ALWAYS stalls... what gives?
[03:44] <shadow98> can someone explain the best way to do a system backup on ubuntu...i have tried following the tar options...and they have failed...
[03:44] <barqers> mzz: I haven't tried "find initrd.img" But I'm on my windows partition at the moment, I'd have to reboot and boot off the live cd.
[03:44] <mzz> melvinram: I'll just keep pointing you at that port forwarding setup, since I'm pretty sure KB1JWQ is either not using the same virtualbox version I'm using or has host/guest backwards
[03:44] <nomasteryoda> barqers, so windows is working?
[03:44] <shadow98> i want to be able to do a hardware independent backup
[03:44] <mzz> barqers: do you have your partition layout memorized?
[03:44] <melvinram> mzz: i'm using 2.2.2
[03:44] <mzz> melvinram: as am I
[03:45] <RHorse> shadow98: rsync
[03:45] <andresinix> millertimek1a2m3, then I don't know... sorry :( perhaps someone else might help you
[03:45] <melvinram> mzz: where should i go to look at what you're referring to?
[03:45] <barqers> nomasteryoda: Yeah, Windows is fine, however, there's no linux option in the boot menu, because it's vista's mbr.
[03:45] <HollywoodJumper> if i dual boot.  should i upgrade to 9.04 from 8.04?
[03:45] <shadow98> Rhorse: rsync can do a complete system backup
[03:45] <mzz> melvinram: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads has a link to the manual.
[03:45] <barqers> mzz: Yeah, only two disks, /dev/sdb is linux, /dev/sda is windows
[03:45] <nomasteryoda> ok, and you did an install to another partition...
[03:45] <RedSocrates> racecar56: So typically, when you start up, your clock is 6 hours ahead?
[03:45] <Apaxis> barqers: i think you want grub-install (man grub-install)
[03:45] <Y-Town> anyone know a good app to record desktop into video?
[03:45] <droopy-ze-dog> anyone know why scp over wifi always stalls on my laptop? Tried on various networks
[03:45] <racecar56> RedSocrates, ok, it's wrong again
[03:46] <mzz> melvinram: it's section 6.4.1 in that manual (read the rest of 6.4 for more background information that might be useful)
[03:46] <RHorse> shadow98: dd
[03:46] <RedSocrates> racecar56: You rebooted?
[03:46] <barqers> Apaxis: And I can run that from a terminal in a livecd? "man grub-install"
[03:46] <racecar56> RedSocrates, yea
[03:46] <felixsulla> What do you do with your windows key when you install Ubuntu?
[03:46] <KB1JWQ> droopy-ze-dog: It's likely not scp itself; do FTP transfers die as well?
[03:46] <racecar56> windows key?
[03:46] <racecar56> whats that
[03:46] <Apaxis> barqers: yes, man will show you the manual, the command is grub-install
[03:46] <mzz> barqers: ok, then it'd be root (hd1,SOMETHING), but I'm not sure what the SOMETHING would be
[03:46] <nickolaus> I just reinstalled ubuntu and I'm trying to get Hulu and such working again. Any ideas how to get most of the streaming sites to work? I am installed flash but it doesn't seem to work.
[03:46] <Apaxis> barqers: it has to be run as root
[03:46] <nomasteryoda> barqers, if this is a desktop system and LInux is installed, you can just swap the cable
[03:46] <apot> anyone know how i can get grep, or whatever text editor, to delete everything after a given column on every line of a text file?
[03:46] <felixsulla> racecar56: Its a key, with the windows logo on it.
[03:46] <Apaxis> mzz: he doesnt even have grub yet bro
[03:46] <mzz> Apaxis: he's running that off the livecd
[03:47] <Apaxis> mzz: he wants to replace M$ MBR with grub
[03:47] <shadow98> RHorse: you can't do file level restores with it can you..and it takes exact image...like i have a 40gb drive...and it makes the image file almost 40 gb..
[03:47] <racecar56> felixsulla, k...
[03:47] <droopy-ze-dog> KB1JWQ, it only stalls when I'm scp'ing from my laptop to another device. Download works fine
[03:47] <Apaxis> running what off?
[03:47] <barqers> nomasteryoda: True, however it won't even let me install grub on the linux partition lol. it's completely whack
[03:47] <barqers> Apaxis: Okay, I will try that, thank you!
[03:47] <sebas891> hi folks!
[03:47] <racecar56> RedSocrates, date says "Tue May  5 02:47:29 WET 2009" WRONG
[03:47] <barqers> mzz: okay, I believe it's hd1,1. I'll go try that now, thank you!
[03:47] <TonyTheTiger> When i try to do the update feature on ubuntu i get an error, 403 forbidden. But when I put the link in a browser i can download it fine.
[03:47] <RedSocrates> racecar56: But does hwclock --localtime still give the correct output?
[03:48] <RHorse> shadow98: there are gui backup solutions but I'm not up on them. You could try linuxappfinder.com
[03:48] <Apaxis> grub doesnt install on a partition, it installs to the Master Boot Record
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> oh hope it works for him
[03:48] <sebas891> Is it possible to install Hardy 8.04.2, using the installer from 8.10 ?
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> Apaxis, yup
[03:48] <mzz> apot: try "cut -c-20 < somefile"
[03:48] <racecar56> RedSocrates, Mon 04 May 2009 09:47:56 PM WET  -0.757533 seconds yes, with and without --localtime...
[03:48] <racecar56> RedSocrates, it's right...
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> but will install on the first drive it sees as the boot drive... sda1's mbr
[03:48] <shadow98> RHorse: i am looking for command line only....i am doing bare system..just the essentials...
[03:48] <racecar56> shadow98, ubuntu alternate CD
[03:49] <eseven73> sebas891, no
[03:49] <Apaxis> nomasteryoda: i know, just explaining to this guy, hes trying to install grub to his mbr
[03:49] <shadow98> racecar56: what would that be
[03:49] <sebas891> or... anyone, is aware on how to install ubuntu 8.04.2 with the module partman-auto-raid
[03:49] <TonyTheTiger> is there a way i can do the update of my ubuntu from terminal?
[03:49] <racecar56> shadow98, command line ubuntu
[03:49] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Open /etc/default/rcS and find the line that says "UTC="
[03:49] <nomasteryoda> Apaxis, i know...
[03:49] <RedSocrates> racecar56: What does it say after the = sign?
[03:49] <apot> mzz: trying it, thanks
[03:49] <melvinram> gahh why doesn't it jus work
[03:50] <racecar56> RedSocrates, UTC=no
[03:50] <IndyGunFreak> TonyTheTiger: if you're blocked by proxy, i don't see how doing it from terminal is gonna make a difference
[03:50] <sebas891> eseven73: there is no aways around? you know the reason why it's not possible?
[03:50] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Change it to yes, reboot, and see what happens.  If it doesn't work, you can change it back to no.
[03:50] <TonyTheTiger> IndyGunFreak, I have configured both GUI and Terminal for proxy although terminal works better.
[03:50] <RHorse> melvinram: junk in junk out :)
[03:50] <shadow98> racecar56, i got that part i am just installing server edition...with openssh server..and then apache and mysql...that is all i need for now..
[03:51] <eseven73> sebas891, not enough room on a cd to fit all the Ubuntu installs on them is my guess
[03:51] <melvinram> RHorse: huh?
[03:51] <TonyTheTiger> Im not block, its just ubuntu doesnt work too well with recieving internet through proxy
[03:51] <TonyTheTiger> blocked*
[03:51] <IndyGunFreak> TonyTheTiger: i'm not sure how to upgrade via terminal.. i'm sure it can be done, just not sure how.
[03:51] <droopy-ze-dog> can anyone help, scp with large files stalls everytime
[03:51] <droopy-ze-dog> IndyGunFreak, isn't it just "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[03:51] <droopy-ze-dog> or dist-upgrade
[03:52] <IndyGunFreak> droopy-ze-dog: i think you have to do some changes to your source list for that to work
[03:52] <TonyTheTiger> droopy-ze-dog, is this for installing updates to the os?
[03:52] <sebas891> eseven73: I'm using a netboot install with preseed, ( I want to have a full automated install) with raid :)
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> melvinram, did you look through this kind of post? http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=148
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> the vboxmanage should help out
[03:53] <eseven73> sebas891, raid is way out of my league, you'll have to ask someone else about that, best of luck to you though :)
[03:53] <melvinram> nomasteryoda: i haven't but i'm reading it now
[03:53] <droopy-ze-dog> TonyTheTiger, that's for upgrading to a newer version of the OS.
[03:53] <TonyTheTiger> well whatever happens, iv invoked the sudo apt-get upgrade.
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> the same things apply melvinram to the current version
[03:53] <TonyTheTiger> either itll break the os or do something nice.
[03:53] <racecar56> RedSocrates, its wrong
[03:53] <mzz> melvinram: at a glance what nomasteryoda linked to is the same port forwarding setup described in the manual I linked to
[03:53] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Still the same as before?
[03:53] <racecar56> RedSocrates, ya
[03:54] <sebas891> eseven73: thanks! I keep on searching. I was able to get it working on 8.10 but I want it on 8.04.2 for the lts
[03:54] <racecar56> RedSocrates, so vim out the UTC=yes and turn it into no?
[03:54] <KB1JWQ> droopy-ze-dog: dd over netcat do the same thing?
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> mzz, yup... hope that is described a little simpler on that linked page... and it has a tunneling link howto as well
[03:54] <RedSocrates> racecar56: I guess so.  It seems not to affect anything
[03:54]  * mzz nods
[03:54] <droopy-ze-dog> KB1JWQ, not sure what you mean
[03:55] <bonhoffer> i am hoping to set up my computer so i can tunnel to it over https and run all my apps -- secure from public wifi -- any guides?
[03:55] <churl> in Jaunty, is there no longer the option to have "icons only" in the "task list"?  Since the upgrade, I can no longer find that option.
[03:55] <nickolaus> I just reinstalled ubuntu and I'm trying to get Hulu and such working again. Any ideas how to get most of the streaming sites to work? I am installed flash but it doesn't seem to work.
[03:55] <mzz> bonhoffer: might want to use ssh for that
[03:55] <mibzzer15> IndyGunFreak: now I am getting a GRUB error 18
[03:56] <RHorse> nickolaus: install v. 10 from adobe site.
[03:56] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: i tried to tell you
[03:56] <bonhoffer> mzz, ssh is blocked from some wifi
[03:56] <bonhoffer> (at work)
[03:56] <mzz> ah
[03:56] <mzz> not sure then, sorry
[03:56] <ZauberExonar> Okay folks, a friend of mine has a severe graphics problem on her computer, and it's in a virtually unusable state.  I'm trying to help her troubleshoot, and found out that the xorg.conf was generated by a program called "defconf".  How is this program invoked, and is it simple enough for someone with little command-line experience to use?
[03:56] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Are you using GNOME?
[03:56] <platius> nickolaus;  amd64?
[03:56] <mibzzer15> IndyGunFreak: other than being like that, what can I do to fix it?
[03:56] <racecar56> RedSocrates, yes
[03:56] <mzz> ZauberExonar: debconf, not defconf, probably?
[03:56] <KB1JWQ> bonhoffer: It's your server?  Then why not bind SSH to a port that isn't 22?
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> mibzzer15, because the grub is not finding the /boot/grub/menu.list which is over on the windows drive's mbr
[03:56] <KB1JWQ> That'll get past most things.
[03:56] <ZauberExonar> defconf
[03:56] <racecar56> RedSocrates, i have KDE also... but at the moment om on gnome
[03:56] <melvinram> mzz & nomasteryoda: port forwarding doesn't seem like a good idea since i'll need those ports on my machine as well. I think i'm just going to fck it and put off this task since it's not mission critical. maybe i'll try parallels or fusion or something.
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: like what?
[03:57] <racecar56> RedSocrates, *i'm
[03:57] <bonhoffer> KB1JWQ, yes, that is what i want to do
[03:57] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Have you tried rightclicking on the clock and choosing "Adjust Time & Date" and going through all that again?
[03:57] <mzz> melvinram: no need to forward port 22 on the guest to 22 on the host...
[03:57] <bonhoffer> use ssh over 443
[03:57] <mibzzer15> IndyGunFreak: like the I told you so thing
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> melvinram, those will still need to portforward....
[03:57] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Also, does it say there whether the clock is set to UTC or localtime?
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: well i did...
[03:57] <bonhoffer> the question is how to do it
[03:57] <KB1JWQ> bonhoffer: On the server, set ssh to listen to an alternat port in sshd_config
[03:57] <IndyGunFreak> mibzzer15: and honestly, i don't knwo how to fix it.. investigate grub errors, and try to go from there.. i told you how to do it right
[03:57] <KB1JWQ> Restart SSH.
[03:57] <mzz> melvinram: you can just forward 22 on the guest to something like 2222 on the host, after which pointing ssh to hostsip:22 gives you the host's sshd, and hostsip:2222 gives you the guest's
[03:57] <KB1JWQ> You're done. :)
[03:57] <KB1JWQ> That's what I do all the time.
[03:57] <FloodBot2> KB1JWQ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <Roasted> unop - are you here still?
[03:57] <nickolaus> rhorse  I tried to download install_flash_player_10_linux.deb but when I double click on it, my package installer issues the following "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'" any ideas? I'm on a 64bit install. Not AMD
[03:57] <racecar56> RedSocrates, no
[03:57] <racecar56> RedSocrates, dont say
[03:57] <mibzzer15> IndyGunFreak: ok
[03:58] <bonhoffer> KB1JWQ, yeah -- i had problems ...
[03:58] <AERAS12> I AM LOOKING A GIRL CYBER MSN COME PANTOKERITIS2@HOTMAIL.COM
[03:58] <RHorse> bonhoffer: need to edit ssh_config
[03:58] <melvinram> mzz & nomasteryoda: what i dont get is why i need portforwarding even if i dont want any other machines on the network to get to the virtual machine
[03:58] <KB1JWQ> RHorse: NO.  sshd_config to change the port.
[03:58] <nickolaus> platius not an amd processor but yeah, 64bit install.
[03:58] <melvinram> I just need the host to connect to the guest
[03:58] <melvinram> why is that so far
[03:58] <melvinram> hard
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> !flash64 | nick_h[litage]
[03:58] <platius> nickolaus;  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-flash-not-working-after-jaunty-upgrade-64bit.html  check here
[03:58] <racecar56> RedSocrates, info: GNOME 2.26.1 ubuntu 9.04 release
[03:58] <IndyGunFreak> nickolaus: see above
[03:58] <RHorse> KB1JWQ: yes, that's what I was thinking of
[03:59] <mzz> melvinram: see the virtualbox manual for other options, including one where only the guest and the host "see" a virtual lan of sorts
[03:59] <racecar56> RedSocrates, i386
[03:59] <RHorse> nickolaus: can you download the .gz file from adobe?
[03:59] <racecar56> RedSocrates, as the computer im using is kind of old...
[04:00] <sebas891> anyone was able to have partman-auto-raid working on 8.04.2 ?
[04:00] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Does running "tzselect" from the command line help at all?
[04:01] <racecar56> RedSocrates, using now (thx, never heard of this command)
[04:01] <RedSocrates> racecar56: No prob.  Not sure if it will change things though, we'll see
[04:02] <racecar56> RedSocrates, im still kind of new (only been using ubuntu scince june/july 2008)
[04:02] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Cool, that's no problem
[04:02] <NotanExpert> hello all
[04:02] <NotanExpert> i got probibly a stupid n questio
[04:02] <rgs_> network manager frontend can't connect to mobile broadband when waking up after hibernating.. is this a known bug?
[04:03] <IndyGunFreak> NotanExpert: just ask.. we'll laughat you if its really stupid
[04:03] <nickolaus> platius worked great! I love you
[04:03] <rgs_> i get a pppd_timed_out(): Looks like pppd
[04:03] <rgs_>  didn't initialize our dbus module
[04:03] <NotanExpert> is there  a place that lists plugins and patches that are made for the AMD artitecture, like iḿ trying to download flash, and it keeps downloading the Intell one
[04:03] <rgs_> in /var/log/daemon.log
[04:03] <ZauberExonar> Is the -phigh in the command "sudo dpkg-recofigure -phigh xserver-xorg" necesary?
[04:03] <IndyGunFreak> NotanExpert: i don't knwo of one.. thats not to say there isn't
[04:03] <platius> nickolaus;  your welcome
[04:04] <racecar56> ZauberExonar, it makes it not say anything
[04:04] <ZauberExonar> Meaning no output if you use it?
[04:04] <racecar56> ZauberExonar, if u remove the -phigh instead of reverting to default, it actually reconfigures it
[04:04] <millertimek1a2m3> can any of you guys record sound in 9.04?
[04:04] <racecar56> ZauberExonar, ALMOST no output
[04:04] <shadow98> im still searching for an answer on backups...i have looked at rysnc and it doesn't look like it is made for a system with a mysql data....i have tested tar which has failed 3 times now..
[04:04] <ZauberExonar> ok
[04:05] <Gadu> anyone on installing the proprietary ATI driver on 64-bit hardy?
[04:05] <ZauberExonar> Well, the xorg.conf is broken, which is the problem.
[04:05] <racecar56> millertimek1a2m3, my laptop pwn'd at 8.10 with it... gonna have to see if it works on 9.04, probably does
[04:05] <IndyGunFreak> millertimek1a2m3: i've not tried to record, but my mic works w/ Skype, so I can only assume it would record sound ok
[04:05] <shadow98> i just need a way to do a complete backup of my apache,mysql, mail, php box..
[04:05] <HollywoodJumper> i am not sure if i should upgrade to 9.04 from 8.04
[04:05] <racecar56> RedSocrates, me gonna log out and back in
[04:05] <RedSocrates> racecar56: k
[04:06] <racecar56> HollywoodJumper, wait till june/july
[04:06] <NotanExpert> alright does anyone know where i can get the flash in amd architecture ?
[04:06] <admin_masu3701> can someone help me with flash player....theres not sound
[04:06] <racecar56> HollywoodJumper, i HIGHLY reccomend u wait
[04:06] <ZauberExonar> I've got 9.04 running on my 700mhz pentium3 laptop.  Runs faster out of the box than Fedora 10, even after I enabled all kinds of tweaks and configurations to make it run faster.
[04:06] <racecar56> lol p3
[04:06] <RHorse> shadow98: http://www.google.com/search?q=rsync+mysql+database&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[04:07] <syntax\> how can i fix the icon issues with open office? i don't have open office icons -_-
[04:07] <racecar56> im running on a compaq presario sr1010z from early 2005 i believe
[04:07] <admin_masu3701> can someone help me with flash player....theres not sound
[04:07] <racecar56> 8D
[04:08] <NotanExpert> i also need help with flash, lol actually finding a AMD verson of it lol
[04:08] <barqers> guys, I just reinstalled my grub, BUT, now vista won't load when I select it in the grub menu, however I can get onto my windows partition? Vista is on /dev/sda1 and in menu.lst it's (hd0,0)
[04:08] <RedSocrates> NotanExpert: A 64 bit version of flash?
[04:08] <NotanExpert> Redocrates: aye
[04:09] <admin_masu3701> NOtanExpert: flash is acting really weard ....no sound and uses alot CPU
[04:09] <Wolfcastle> barqers, post your menu.lst in pastebin
[04:09] <admin_masu3701> can someone help me with flash player....theres not sound
[04:09] <TonyTheTiger> IndyGunFreak, The Sudo apt-get upgrade seems to have done the trick, now i only have 12 updates remaining as opposed to the 200+ before
[04:09] <barqers> Wolfcastle: http://pastebin.com/m5e9b18e
[04:10] <barqers> Wolfcastle: I've tried it as (hd0,0) (hd1,0) and (hd0,1)
[04:10] <RHorse> admin_masu3701 and NotanExpert  flash is just a matter of downloading the latest libflashplayer.so and inserting it into the proper directory.
[04:10] <RedSocrates> NotanExpert: This should get you 64-bit flash set up: http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/install-64-bit-flash-player-plugin-for.html
[04:10] <syntax\> i mean i have to use Human controls to have it working/ what about my themes?
[04:10] <felixsulla> When you are in $ man <whatever> and it has a see also section, is there a way to just jump right to it without quitting back to the shell?
[04:11] <shankel> Hey everybody - just installed Ubuntu!
[04:11] <dtchen> admin_masu3701: amd64 or i386?
[04:11] <etzerd> hi everyont
[04:11] <felixsulla> shankel: Good job :D
[04:11] <sebsebseb> etzerd: hi
[04:11] <admin_masu3701> detchen: 64
[04:11] <churl> shankel: YEAH!
[04:11] <Wolfcastle> barqers, did you say windows vista is in /dev/sda1?
[04:11] <HollywoodJumper> if i run Sudo apt-get upgrade will it automatically install 9.04?
[04:11] <admin_masu3701> flash was working fine til last night
[04:11] <churl> Is there no longer the option to have "icons only" in the "task list"?  Since the upgrade, I can no longer find that option.
[04:12] <Wolfcastle> barqers, because if that's the case, it should say hd0,0 in menu.lst
[04:12] <Petrus> hey everyone...couple of minor issues.  First I wanted to know what the default patch switches are for applying patches to Ubuntu src packages...and the second thing is some weirdness with the repo which I figured you might want to know about.
[04:12] <HollywoodJumper> shankel>welcome
[04:12] <RHorse> admin_masu3701: find out where your plugin directory(s) resides, get libflashplayer.so, and copy it to that directory(s)
[04:12] <shankel> thanks! :)  I've got it setup as a dual boot with windows.  Does anyone know how to setup GRUB so that it will automatically boot to my windows partition rather then Ubuntu?  I'd like to keep it that way for a while until I get more used to Ubuntu
[04:12] <etzerd> sebsebseb: can you tell me the website that I can donwload codecs and some other restricted for Ubuntu? someone tell me last week and I forget the address
[04:12] <barqers> Wolfcastle: Yes, this is the output of fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/m6c24c822
[04:13] <josh977> medibuntu repo ?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> etzerd: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and yeah midibuntu
[04:13] <jp_sf> HollywoodJumper : no you need to upgrade Intrepid to joaunty ?
[04:13] <TonyTheTiger> just to make sure guys, the text based "alternate cd" is the "alternate cd" correct?
[04:13] <jp_sf> HollywoodJumper : no you need to upgrade Intrepid to jaunty ?
[04:13] <etzerd> yes thanks
[04:13] <Wolfcastle> barqers, ok then you need to change root for windows vista in your menu.lst
[04:13] <Wolfcastle> barqers, it says hd0,1 in your post
[04:14] <barqers> Wolfcastle: Okay, let me try (hd0,0) but when I click vista in the grub menu, I don't get an error, it says loading grub2 and then goes back to the grub menu.
[04:14] <platius> NOtanExpert;admin_masu3701;  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-flash-not-working-after-jaunty-upgrade-64bit.html  you might check here
[04:14] <jp_sf> HollywoodJumper: to upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but do some readings before
[04:14] <HollywoodJumper> what about 8.04 is that intrepid or hearty heron?
[04:14] <Petrus> I had some sort of weird crash a bit back and the kernel had to get reinstalled...linux_2.6.27-11.  That in itself wasn't a huge drama, but now I need to re-add the nvidia binary driver for my video card, which I can't do because I haven't been able to get hold of the source for that particular kernel build from synaptic.  Although I downloaded the orig file and the diffs from the web, and I'm about to try and patch the source myself.
[04:14] <abe3k> hi guys, I have ubuntu 9.04 and the virtual consoles were working before on 9.04  but now they only show a blinking cursor, what could've caused this problem ?
[04:15] <Mood> is it safe to kill -9 update-manager? it seems stuck for the past hour...
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: thats hardy heron
[04:15] <Wolfcastle> barqers, that's weird since according to fdisk hd0,1 shouln't even exist
[04:15] <Petrus> Mood try it.  The worst that will prolly happen is you being dumped out to gdm, or having to reboot.
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: so if you want to upgrade to 9.04, you'll have to go 8.04 to 8.10, then 8.10 to 9.04
[04:16] <barqers> Wolfcastle: My thoughts exactly, but with grub> setup (hd0,1) it says it succeeds.
[04:16] <HollywoodJumper> jp_sf>so do i want to upgrade to intrepid from hardy?
[04:16] <balleyne> is there a proper name for the output you see from a program when you run it from the command line? the trace? standard output? ...
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: you don't just want to, you have to.. you can't go from Hardy to Jaunty
[04:17] <barqers> Wolfcastle: I'll reboot and try (hd0,0)
[04:17] <greg_> Hey folks.  Admitted newbie to Ubuntu--I just installed 8.10 and can set screen resolution greater than 800 x 600
[04:17] <IndyGunFreak> greg_: what graphics device?
[04:17] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>ok , but what is the benefit of upgrading to 8.10 from 8.04?
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: same benefit as upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04.. updated packages, bug fixes, etc.
[04:18] <greg_> Trident Cyberblade...  I found the driver with Synaptics
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> greg_: what is the device?
[04:18] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>so do i need to back anything up if i upgrade?
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: that would be wise in case something goes wrong.
[04:19] <greg_> Trident microsystems Cyberblade XPA.1 rev 82
[04:19] <abe3k> I have ubuntu 9.04 and the virtual consoles were working before ,but for some reason now they only show a blinking cursor, what could've caused this problem ?
[04:19] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>what if i dual boot?
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> greg_: do you know what chipset that is?.. never heard that one.
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: still a good idea to backup.. "just in case"
[04:19] <jawall> I just upgraded to Jackalope.  Performance is excellent when running on battery power.  Pluggin in the AC power runs CPU usage up to well over 90%.  Suggestions?
[04:20] <greg_> Intel, I think.  Itś on a Toshiba laptop
[04:20] <barqers> Wolfcastle: It says "Starting... Grub loading stage2" then retreats to the grub menu again
[04:20] <barqers> Nothing happens.
[04:20] <NotanExpert> thanks guys think that worked great :)
[04:20] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>could my upgrade to 8.10 affect my other partition with windows om it?
[04:20] <Elite> I have the hardy version of Ubuntu Desktop installed on my machine, how can I install samba server on it?
[04:20] <greg_> hold on and Iĺl lspci again.
[04:20] <jawall> barqers: sounds like gnome or kde is fubar
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: it probably wouldnt effect your windows partition, but if  you have a problem and can't boot.
[04:21] <barqers> jawall: Hm, is there anything I can do about this? cause it's either I have only windows boot up, or linux, cause I have a vista repair MBR cd, but then I can't use linux anymore.
[04:22] <greg_>  VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XPAi1 (rev 82)
[04:22] <Wolfcastle> barqers, sorry I don't know what's wrong...that grub configuration should work
[04:22] <shankel> sorry if I missed it - any ideas on setting up the default boot loader that comes with Ubuntu to automatically start windows after no activity for 10 secs rather then Ubuntu?
[04:22] <HollywoodJumper> ha sanyone her ever messed around with FREEBSD?
[04:22] <jawall> Anyone know why CPU usage goes up to max when the AC is plugged into the maptop?
[04:23] <greg_> sez itś VGA but it is SVGA.  other OS supports to 1200 x 768 or greater
[04:23] <jawall> Yeah, freebsd guy here
[04:23] <Wolfcastle> shankel, you can configure that in menu.lst
[04:23] <Elite> jawall: chances are your power driver is messed
[04:23] <PhotoJim> shankel: boot into Linux, and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ... there's an entry there for the default.  Bear in mind that the first entr is zero, and the line dividers it prints count in the numbering.
[04:23] <HollywoodJumper> jawall>what kinds of stuff can i do with freebsd?
[04:23] <Elite> !samba
[04:23] <Roasted> how would I set up a script to check if a drive is mounted first, and if it is, THEN rsync to it?
[04:24] <churl> SAMBA!
[04:24] <Wolfcastle> shankel, and make sure timeout is 10
[04:24] <Elite> Samba is a PINTA
[04:24] <churl> PINTA!
[04:24] <Roasted> elite - it's really not, especially if you use a GUI to set up your shares.
[04:25] <Elite> Roasted I am bui I can't get the GUI installed
[04:25] <Roasted> sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[04:25] <Roasted> its simple, very few features, but it gets the job done
[04:25] <Roasted> sets up users, shares, permissions, etc
[04:25] <Roasted> only thing I manually added to the smb.conf was force group. That simple gui did everything else fo rme.
[04:25] <shankel> thanks - I would do that all from the terminal application?
[04:26] <Elite> could notfind package
[04:26] <J-_> I need some help configure /etc/resolv.conf on my server. Can anyone give me a hand? I'm trying to use freedns.afraid.org, and I'm boggled because it won't work.
[04:26] <ZauberExonar> Does anyone know the command for auto-configuring an ATI card?  My friend's xorg.conf apparently has missing or broken section for the video card
[04:26]  * Petrus is very, very tempted to compile an entirely custom kernel at this point...DKMS be damned.
[04:28] <Elite> Roasted: it says it couldn't find the pckage
[04:28] <Roasted> one second Ill look it up
[04:28] <Roasted> yeah its system-config-samba
[04:29] <wtv> i want the mount point of a partition to be /media/Total Junk. when i enter save this in /etc/fstab and use the command mount -a, it shows me an error in that line where i have /media/Total Junk.
[04:29] <Roasted> sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[04:29] <Roasted>  
[04:29] <Roasted> is exactly what I typed in
[04:29] <admin_masu3701> platius: none of those solutions worked
[04:29] <barqers> Can someone help me, I can't mount a vista partition. with NTFS-config, there's no advanced configuration? I'm using ubuntu 9.04
[04:29] <zurdito> hola q tal tengo un problema con el kde para instlar en ubuntu alguien puede darme una mano
[04:29] <ZauberExonar> Does anyone know the command for auto-configuring an ATI card?  My friend's xorg.conf apparently has missing or broken section for the video card
[04:30] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>so should i upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: thats entirely up to you...
[04:30] <help1> Hi.. super strange problem. Everything was running fine. Then I uninstalled phatch. sudo apt-get purge phatch. Didn't see anything important being removed. A few hours later I shut ti down, moved the computer downstairs, and started it up again. Now... it boots up normal, logs in like normal. I hear sound. I see wallpaper. I can't press ctrl+alt+delete and logout. But that's it. No panels. Can't bring up a terminal. Alt+F2 does nothing
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: i always tend to stay current.. but thats not for everyone.. some folks like the long term support behind LTS releases (like 8.04)..
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> only you can decice that
[04:31] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>ok whats LTS?
[04:31] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: long term support
[04:31] <a-stray-laptop> anyone wanna help me out with lirc? it suddenly stopped working for me ;(
[04:31] <IndyGunFreak> !lts | HollywoodJumper
[04:31] <Elite> Roasted: nope did a copy and paste and it still didn't work
[04:32] <Roasted> search synaptic for "samba"
[04:32] <tuxwulf> Which repo is the xf86-video-vesa?
[04:32] <Roasted> and look for it, its towards the bottom
[04:32] <d0htem> need help with 9.04 and compiz
[04:32] <Elite> synaptic?
[04:32] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>so 8.10 isnt a LTS?
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: no
[04:32] <IndyGunFreak> and neither is 9.04
[04:32] <d0htem> on 8.10 i could enable normal , now i cant :( help me find out how to enable enough for transparent console over firefox??
[04:32] <racecar56> HollywoodJumper, every 4 releases there are an lts
[04:33] <zeno> mzz: no its for any window now ones not responding
[04:33] <racecar56> HollywoodJumper, oops
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: 8.04 is LTS... 9.10 will not be LTS, but I think 10.04 will be
[04:33] <racecar56> HollywoodJumper, i mean 6
[04:33] <racecar56> IndyGunFreak, true
[04:33]  * Crash1hd :( tired of waiting wants too play
[04:33] <RedSocrates> racecar56: Did you have any success with your clock?
[04:33] <racecar56> IndyGunFreak, as the even numbers with .04 at end are lts
[04:33] <racecar56> RedSocrates, no
[04:33] <RedSocrates> :-/
[04:33] <racecar56> RedSocrates, still says 3:33 AM >:(
[04:33] <felixsulla> I downloaded an icon sent form ubuntu-art.org, any idea where they might be stored so I can add one to my panel?
[04:33] <help> Accidentally closed pidgin. Any ideas on why my desktop is missing after logging in?
[04:33] <IndyGunFreak> racecar56: i never thought of it like that, but you're right
[04:33] <racecar56> RedSocrates, stupid ubuntu setup
[04:34] <racecar56> IndyGunFreak, notice: 4.04 didn't exist, 6.06 was (first) lts, 8.04 (6 releases after) was, however an lts
[04:34] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>well i think i have my answer then. thanks.
[04:34] <IndyGunFreak> racecar56: eh.. go figure.. Ubuntu Math never adds up..lol
[04:34] <racecar56> IndyGunFreak, still wonderin, why 6.06 was 6.06 and not 6.04
[04:34] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ,becasue it was delayed
[04:34] <racecar56> sebsebseb, kkz
[04:35] <IndyGunFreak> racecar56: well, 5.10 was befor that.. so maybe dapper just took a bit longer than they thought it was going to.. because they went from 6.06, to 6.10
[04:35] <racecar56> IndyGunFreak, ya
[04:36] <RedSocrates> racecar56, IndyGunFreak: Don't know if you realize, but the last two digits are the month of the release
[04:36] <Roasted> when using the -a function with rsync, it changes permissions. Is there ANY way to run this without root priviledges??
[04:36] <RedSocrates> 6.06 was 6.06 rather than 6.04 because it was released in June
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> racecar56: they seem to have a good system down now... it works for them
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> RedSocrates: lol.. yes, i realize that...
[04:37] <Guest26697> I see a lot of posts from people with similar problems, but they are using desktop switching. I am not.
[04:37] <RedSocrates> IndyGunFreak: k, just making sure :)
[04:37] <mupeng> sdg
[04:37] <mupeng> sd
[04:37] <mupeng> sdg
[04:37] <mupeng> sg
[04:37] <mupeng> s
[04:37] <FloodBot2> mupeng: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:37] <crankharder> how do I get rid of thes new shutdown/reboot confirmations that appeared in 9.04?
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> RedSocrates: been coming here for about 4yrs..thats how i knew the next version was 9.10, and the version after that was 10.04
[04:38] <RedSocrates> IndyGunFreak: Gotcha
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> and the version after that will be 10.10
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> and after that 11.04
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> and 11.10, adn so on
[04:38] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:38] <RedSocrates> Assuming there are no delays :)
[04:38] <Crash1hd> yeah grub is working (its ugly but its working) :)
[04:38] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>i have been trying to update and install new software through my synaptic package manager and not all the selected application end up installing, do you think i should just go with the terminalinstead?
[04:38] <tuxwulf> my apt says I am already on the latest version of xserver-xorg-video-vesa, so how do I make sure it uses that driver and not the intel one?
[04:39] <mib_wwrjs9> Does anyone know of any good tutorials for making a Home server on ubuntu, probably with just samba and preferably some method of easily adding users and allowing the users to change their own passwords? Also I'd like if it told me what exactly I was doing instead of just what to do.
[04:39] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: well if they aren't installing, terminal isnt going to change that.. do you know why they aren't installing?.. any errors?
[04:39] <RedSocrates> tuxwulf: Do you use an /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:39] <maxagaz> how to reset environment variable after having changed /etc/environment ?
[04:39] <Elite> Roasted:  I am not seeing any GUI panel for this samaba or do I need to restart?
[04:39] <tuxwulf> RedSocrates: Yes, I think so.
[04:39] <Roasted> elite - system - administration - "samba"
[04:40] <Crash1hd> OK so anyone that has error 18 tell them to reinstall and add a /boot partition :) of 200mb :)
[04:40] <RedSocrates> tuxwulf: In the "Device" section there will likely be a line that says: Driver "intel"
[04:40] <tyler_d> I am missing the /etc/bind folder and all of its contents... how do I replace/repair these?
[04:40] <shankel> Thanks for the help everybody see you more tomorrow! :)
[04:40] <tuxwulf> RedSocrates: Yes, there is
[04:40] <Elite> Roasted: that isn't here?
[04:40] <RedSocrates> tuxwulf: If you change "intel" to "vesa", that'll make you use the vesa drivers the next time you start X
[04:40] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak> if i run sudo apt get install update it should update all current apps right?
[04:40] <Roasted> elite - did you find system-config-samba in synaptic?
[04:41] <tuxwulf> RedSocrates: Ok, thanks!
[04:41] <jawall> Why does Jaunty run fast on battery and slows to a crawl when AC power is plugged in?
[04:41] <RedSocrates> tuxwulf: no prob :)
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> HollywoodJumper: honestly, i'm not sure. i don't use terminal to update. i just wait for update manager
[04:42] <HollywoodJumper> IndyGunFreak>ok
[04:42] <Elite> Roasted: kinda
[04:43] <Roasted> elite - it's just simply called system-config-samba
[04:43] <Roasted> if you see it, check it, install
[04:43] <c0l2e> I've does option ... "greedy" and other stuff but still I'm feeling that my laptop with Intel GMA 965 still slow
[04:44] <c0l2e> how can I fix this?
[04:44] <AlleyKat> hi... _not_ to start a war, but what is in your opinion(s) the most winamp-like music app for ubuntu? I'm looking, at best, for something with a music library preferrably 'just' showing my files in their current structure - a bit like this: http://phpbb2.dk/img/WinAMP-w-DL2-b26.png
[04:45] <AlleyKat> this Dynamic Library thing is not a default winamp plugin thou, but maybe someone knows of similar...
[04:46] <Elite> Roasted: nothing found in a searc
[04:46] <Roasted> *shrug* I'm looking at it right now....
[04:46] <Roasted> what did you type in search?
[04:46] <Roasted> samba?
[04:46] <c0l2e> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)  .. still slow in ubuntu 9.04
[04:47] <c0l2e> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) ..  still slow in ubuntu 9.04
[04:47] <a-stray-laptop> is an intel integrated graphics controller ever fast? :p
[04:47] <Elite> Roasted: no I typed in system-cong-samba
[04:48] <Criten1> Hello everyone!
[04:48] <Roasted> elite - just search for "samba" .... nothing else. When the search is done, scroll down and look for "system-config-samba"
[04:49] <Elite> Roasted: that isn't there but just samba and samba-common are both there and installed
[04:49] <Soviet_Bob> How do I copy the contents of a folder, but not the folder itself, in command line?
[04:49] <gera> hi, can someone help me to set my previous /home in a 9.04?
[04:50] <chetnick> Soviet_Bob: cp /nameoffolder/* /destination/
[04:50] <Soviet_Bob> thanks.
[04:50] <Elite> Soviet_Bob:  how many files do you have to move?
[04:50] <Roasted> elite - how many things showed up?
[04:50] <Qwell> I don't know if I can explain this any better, but pressing a modifier used to stop a key from repeating (example: hold a, hit shift for a second, release shift, you end up with "aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa").  That changed when I updated to 9.04...  where would that be controlled?
[04:50] <RHorse> Soviet_Bob: cp /some/dir/* /target/dir
[04:50] <Soviet_Bob> Elite: 30-50.
[04:50] <axscode> ﻿hi, what do use for linux, for accessing /dev/ttyUSB0 (aka USB to Serial Cable) for Cisco console
[04:50] <Qwell> axscode: minicom is a good app
[04:50] <Elite> Roasted: about 11
[04:50] <cipher42> can i get some help with my tuner card here?
[04:50] <Mayuresh> Good day fellas....
[04:50] <Mayuresh> I need help with connecting my 1 TB hdd with my laptop using ubuntu.
[04:50] <Mayuresh> Its failing after sometime, after writing around 58 M
[04:50] <Mayuresh> I have the dmesg output with me and have already searched the net for any useful information, but didn't get any.
[04:50] <Mayuresh> any help is much appreciated.
[04:50] <FloodBot2> Mayuresh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:51] <axscode> ahh.. it seems i cant
[04:51] <chetnick> Soviet_Bob: thats under condition that you are moving only files. if you have folders within the folder, you will have to use something like -R option
[04:51] <cipher42> anybody know about firmware?
[04:51] <Roasted> elite - I dont know what to tell you. I have like 35 things that show up.... you do know you can scroll down right?
[04:51] <KidIkarus> Hey everyone. I just installed 9.04 NBR and some windows seem to have a black background not letting me see label text.  I have an example here http://yfrog.com/bgscreenshotmainmenucreatp .  Does anyone know how I can fix that?
[04:51] <Mayuresh> FloodBot2: Apologies.
[04:52] <jawall> 89% of my cpu?
[04:52] <cipher42> looks like ur theme to me
[04:52] <Elite> Roasted: yes I know that, I have the bottom part open all the way and there is no scroll down dongle
[04:52] <cipher42> try apt-get reconfigure ubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <Criten1> yea, try changing themes
[04:52] <Mayuresh> FloodBot2: I have pasted the dmesg output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/164643/
[04:52] <chetnick> KidIkarus: did you try changing theme?
[04:52] <KidIkarus> I'm just surprised the default would be broken like that.
[04:52] <wtv> Mayuresh: floodbot is a bot
[04:52] <Mood> Petrus: can't killing update-manager screw up the database of updates on my system though?
[04:52] <cipher42> try to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: Talking to a bot?  What's the issue, anyway?
[04:52] <chetnick> KidIkarus: yeah its kind of weird.
[04:52] <cipher42> that should fix it
[04:53] <axscode> minicom: ../iconv/loop.c:430: internal_utf8_loop_single: Assertion `inptr - bytebuf > (state->__count & 7)' failed.
[04:53] <axscode>                                                                                                                    Aborted
[04:53] <axscode>   <-- using minicom
[04:53] <Mayuresh> KB1JWQ: I am having trouble writing to my WD 1 TB hdd drive
[04:53] <chetnick> KidIkarus: purge ubuntu-desktop, and then install, if you just remove it and then install, the conf files might be still there.
[04:53] <Criten1> Mayuresh: what format is it?
[04:53] <Mayuresh> I have pasted the dmesg output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/164643/
[04:53] <Mayuresh> it is fat32
[04:53] <Petrus> Mood...I guess it could...although last time I used it to get some updates it crashed my system and caused me to have to rebuild the kernel anywayz. ;)
[04:53] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: That's your problem.
[04:54] <KB1JWQ> I don't think FAT32 supports drives that big.
[04:54] <Mayuresh> Criten1: Fat32
[04:54] <chetnick> KidIkarus: did you install restricted drivers?
[04:54] <Mayuresh> oh
[04:54] <cipher42> help anybody?
[04:54] <Criten1> Why is it fat32?...
[04:54] <Mood> Petrus: i'm scared :-s
[04:54] <KidIkarus> I don't really know.
[04:54] <Mayuresh> KB1JWQ: so will NTFS work?
[04:54] <KidIkarus> I just downloaded the netbook remix image
[04:54] <KidIkarus> and then I did the basic install
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: [41450.164447] end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 10854171 <-- Depends on if that means bad sectors, bad filesystem, or whatnot.
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> Drop to single user and fsck it?
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> KidIkarus: That's what I did earlier.
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> Works well for me, what's your issue?
[04:55] <Elite> Roasted: where is the samba config file /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[04:55] <Mayuresh> KB1JWQ: Ok. Writing to the same disk is ok while in Windows
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: Yeah, but maybe you're not hitting those sectors.
[04:55] <KB1JWQ> chkdisk it in Windows.
[04:56] <Mayuresh> Ok.
[04:56] <tyler_d> anyone know how to recreate your rdnc.key file for bind9?
[04:56] <Mayuresh> I'll do it.
[04:56] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: But that run of bad sectors worries me.
[04:56] <Qwell> rndc-genkey, or something.  there's a command for it if I'm not mistaken
[04:56] <tyler_d> Qwell: I will tias
[04:56] <maxcrash> Hello, I'm a ubuntu newbie can anyone tell my why my 9.4 remix keeps asking for my wireless password?
[04:56] <Mayuresh> KB1JWQ: Ok.... What do you suggest?
[04:56] <Qwell> rndc-genconf with -a?
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: Chkdisk it. :)
[04:57] <Tophu> well I solved my merc zboard problem.... I went out and bought a wolfking timber wolf keyboard ^_^
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: The results of that'll determine your next step; force surface scan too.
[04:57] <Qwell> rndc-confgen, rather
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> It'll take a while on a 1TB drive.
[04:57] <Mayuresh> KB1JWQ: Ok. I'll do it and paste the output on paste.ubuntu
[04:57] <tyler_d> sold
[04:57] <tyler_d> its rndc-confgen -a
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> Mayuresh: Okay, you may PM me when it finishes if you like, I may be around.
[04:57] <KidIkarus> chetnick: ubuntu-desktop is not installed.  should I maybe try to purge ubuntu-netbook-remix ?
[04:57] <Mayuresh> KB1JWQ: Ok. Thanks
[04:57] <tyler_d> ty Qwell
[04:57] <jony> for some reason i was sent two installtion cd's both excatly the same
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> KidIkarus: What hardware platform
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> ?
[04:58] <Mayuresh> KB1JWQ: Surely I will. Thanks for your help
[04:58] <Laibcoms> hmm... something changed in Jaunty sound setup?  already killed pulseaudio but I can still play sounds simultaneously on diff apps.
[04:58] <KidIkarus> asus eee 1000h if that answers your question.
[04:58] <Qwell> Laibcoms: alsa has been able to do that for...6-8 years?
[04:58] <Tophu> if I installed a custom compiled version of wine for a specific game how do I unisntall it so I can do a fresh install for a different game?
[04:58] <racecar56> o.o
[04:58] <racecar56> brb
[04:58] <Qwell> Tophu: same way you would uninstall it in Windows
[04:59] <chetnick> KidIkarus: I have no idea what is ubuntu-notebook-remix
[04:59] <Elite> Hey guys how can I find the path to all of my disks?
[04:59] <axscode> hi, aside from minicom.. anything for substitute?
[04:59] <chetnick> KidIkarus: you probably should have ubuntu-desktop installed.
[04:59] <KidIkarus> I ment netbook instead of notebook.
[05:00] <Tophu> @qwell let me rephrase I installed from src so it's not showing in synaptic or the add/remove programs
[05:00] <tyler_d>  /etc/init.d/bind9 restart says ... key is invalid
[05:00] <tyler_d> I have checked permissions and ownership
[05:00] <Tophu> isn't there a command line I can use to uninstall it?
[05:00] <Qwell> Tophu: sorry, I misread what you said..  is there a `make uninstall` in the source?
[05:00] <bc> what is the difference between a 'netbook' and a notebook?
[05:01] <Elite> tyler_d: DNS issues? lol
[05:01] <Qwell> bc: about 7 inches
[05:01] <Tophu> I think there is just can't remember where I put the source folder
[05:01] <Elite> lmao @Qwell
[05:01] <Tophu> hope I wasnt stupid and deleted it
[05:01] <bc> Qwell: sounds like a small notebook then
[05:01] <Qwell> Elite: feel free to refute that claim :p
[05:01] <Laibcoms> hmm, how do I kill my sound then?
[05:01] <Elite> Qwell: what do you mean?
[05:01] <Qwell> Laibcoms: You want to kill your sound?
[05:02] <tyler_d> Elite: you got it... good ole bind9
[05:02] <tyler_d> *(&Y^(*&((
[05:02] <KB1JWQ> bc: netbooks are small, cheap, and usually lack CD drives.
[05:02] <Elite> tyler_d: I had one hell of a time with that lol
[05:02] <Laibcoms> Qwell: trying to figure out what prevents the other app from using sound
[05:02] <Chr|s> !lmao | Elite
[05:02] <Roasted> whos a genius with rsync??
[05:02] <Qwell> Laibcoms: check lsof
[05:02] <KB1JWQ> Great for quickly checking email or browsing the web, crappy for high end computation.
[05:03] <Laibcoms> ok tnx
[05:03] <d0htem> is there an ubuntu 9.04 channel?
[05:03] <KB1JWQ> Roasted: What's the desired end state?
[05:03] <KB1JWQ> d0htem: You're in it. :)
[05:03] <tyler_d> Elite: its an art getting it to work.. duplicating it means your picasso....
[05:03] <tyler_d> ^sp
[05:03] <Elite> Roasted: I found that this thing doesn't have the GUI for samba reason
[05:03] <d0htem> fix vim and compiz!!! it was better in 8.10!!!!
[05:04] <KB1JWQ> d0htem: How did vim change?
[05:04] <d0htem> dont be messing with old school users like this !
[05:04] <bc> KB1JWQ: I dunno about browsing the web with a itty bitty screen. sounds painful. maybe checking mail though.
[05:04] <Qwell> so, besides xinput, gnome-keyboard-properties, where else can I look for KB settings?
[05:04] <d0htem> u owe us that!
[05:04] <KB1JWQ> bc: Depends.  I'm on one now, it's not too bad actually.
[05:04] <Elite> tyler_d: haha yea I had to do it a few times cause the damn server had to be reinstalled
[05:04] <KB1JWQ> bc: 1024x576
[05:04] <Tophu> what folder do I go to, to use make uninstall
[05:04] <Tophu> for wine*
[05:04] <syborg> anyone know how to turn off visual effects from the command line?
[05:04] <KB1JWQ> Tophu: The source folder you built from.
[05:04] <KB1JWQ> It uses the file configure generates to define the make target.
[05:04] <Qwell> Tophu: the source, if such a target exists.  it doesn't always.
[05:05] <Roasted> KB1JWQ - Here's my dilemma in a quick sentence. Rsync -a does EXACTLY what I want, but running -a requires root priviledges to handle. The thing is, I do not want root to be involved because my rsync'd data goes to /media/storage. /media/storage, when mounted, is owned by me (jason), but if that drive dies, /media/storage is owned by root, wherefore my script would fail which is what I want. If the drive dies, I want the script to fa
[05:05] <Roasted> il. Yet I dont know how to do this besides running as nonroot to that folder.
[05:05] <Roasted> so I'm trying to find out how I can work around this curve ball.
[05:05] <Tophu> :-( pretty sure that folder is gone ... can I reinstall wine on top of itself or something?
[05:05] <KB1JWQ> Roasted: Let's take it to PM.
[05:05] <Roasted> ok
[05:05] <mzz> bc: many of the netbooks I've seen had a screen or keyboard smaller than I'd really like
[05:05] <gabriel84> how do I enable 3D effects running it on VMware?
[05:05] <|Jason8|> fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[05:06] <coleys> gabriel84: Sys > Prefs > Appearance > visual effects > extra
[05:06] <xvii69> anybody know how to be able to play my WMV file that is DRM? i tried downloading tunebite and use it threw WINE no go for some reason it will not start
[05:06] <|dthacker|> !wmv
[05:06] <xvii69> anybody know how to be able to play my WMV file that is DRM? i tried downloading tunebite and use it threw WINE no go for some reason it will not start
[05:06] <bc> mzz: I was commenting more on the name. seems like the obvious choice would have been 'smallbook' or 'todobook' or something :P
[05:06] <phoe6> I have setup the cisco vpn client, lynx, elinks and pidgin everything works fine... but when I open firefox, my entire system halts to the point that I only have to hard-reboot. I cannot even ssh to it to kill firefox session.
[05:06] <phoe6> any idea what is happening?
[05:06] <|dthacker|> xvii69: see above
[05:07] <Elite> How can I find where my drives are such as /dev/hd tc?
[05:07] <Petrus> LOL xvii...asking how to play DRM files in here is like going into #kkk on the Undernet and saying you voted for Obama. ;)
[05:07] <mzz> bc: yeah, I'm not really sure where that "net" thing came from either
[05:07] <coleys> Elite: /media/
[05:07] <gabriel84> coleys: it says "system does not support 3D effects" whatś the minimum config?
[05:07] <andresinix> Hello everybody, someone knows how to make the headphones work??? they doesn't turn on when I plug  them in
[05:07] <mzz> bc: if I ever get one I'd regularly use it for editing text (well, code) without any net connection running
[05:07] <coleys> gabriel84: Sys > Admin > hardware drivers
[05:07] <coleys> gabriel84: Get your hardware driver
[05:07] <Crash1hd> OK how do I modify the xorg.conf if I dont have permision to ?
[05:07] <Chr|s> !headphones | andresinix
[05:07] <Chr|s> :(
[05:07] <mzz> bc: (so I'd need a decent keyboard and screen)
[05:07] <bc> mzz: well you can bet it'll end up in the dictionary pretty soon
[05:08] <gabriel84> coleys: okay, let me try that
[05:08] <coleys> Crash1hd: sudo gedit /location/of/xorg.conf
[05:08] <Crash1hd> coleys: ok is there a way to run the gui tool for the nvidia x server as sudo?
[05:08] <bc> mzz: what kind of graphics chip power do those netbooks have?
[05:08] <raylu> !gksu | coleys
[05:08] <mzz> bc: not much, iirc
[05:08] <Tophu> is there any way I can get this version of wine off my system without a format/reinstall?
[05:08] <mzz> bc: (which is exactly what I want, since it'll hopefully reduce power consumption)
[05:09] <|dthacker|> xvii: do not PM me.
[05:09] <Tophu> could I download the 1.1.17 src again and call make uninstall
[05:09] <gabriel84> coleys: ok, I got the driver,  compiz fusion came up but it's grey, cant select it
[05:09] <tyler_d> wow now were having fun... rndc-confgen -a just hangs
[05:09] <battlepope> I have a question: I've just installed 9.04. I'm trying to get my sound working, I have an onboard Realtek ALC888 being output via SPDIF (optical) to my speakers. Right now I can only play one sound at a time from them (i.e. rhythmbox, the sound tester, or flash videos all work, but only one at a time). What can I do?
[05:09] <mzz> bc: iirc installed ram can be a bit of a problem, because of microsoft being annoying of all things
[05:09] <Crash1hd> ahh ok thanks :)
[05:09] <Elite> How can I restore a file from a backup (my smb.onf file)
[05:09] <coleys> gabriel84: Enable extra effects now?
[05:09] <tyler_d> love it...
[05:10] <MOOO> http://www.marie-gets-deflowered.com/?id=43bd20c2 NSFW
[05:10] <xvii69> dthacker:ok yes WMV
[05:10] <bc> mzz: what do you mean about the ram? what's windows doing now.
[05:10] <mzz> bc: quick google gives me http://www.itexaminer.com/microsoft-adds-to-atoms-restrictions.aspx
[05:10] <gabriel84> coleys: yay it worked, thank you
[05:10] <andresinix> yes Chr|s !headphones... they just don't work... in Slackware I changed the file /etc/modprobe.d/sound but in ubuntu it's not there :(
[05:11] <bc> mzz: ahhh atom processors? I just made a tiny ubuntu server with one of those processors!
[05:11] <mzz> bc: basically manufacturers are only allowed to ship windows xp with a netbook if it's below certain limits spec-wise, they have to ship vista otherwise.
[05:11] <Qwell> andresinix: many sound cards have independent volume controls for headphones vs speakers these days.  make sure it isn't just muted
[05:11] <Petrus> andresinix...don't go there...if I start comparing Ubuntu and Slackware, I'll get banned from this channel. ;)
[05:11] <coleys> gabriel84: You can also get... sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:11] <coleys> gabriel84: To customize your effects, and enable more =)
[05:11] <Chr|s> andresinix: try typing alsamixer in terminal
[05:11] <mzz> bc: because most sane people don't want to run vista on a netbook pretty much all of them stick to those limits, even if it makes sense to exceed some of them (like storage or ram)
[05:11] <axscode> any good substition for minicom?
[05:12] <gabriel84> coleys: sounds good
[05:12] <DJvRadio> ok so who can help me quit a program that pops up again after i close it in a never ending circle??
[05:12] <bc> mzz: you're not running the devil os on that thing are you???
[05:12] <battlepope> I have a question: I'm trying to get my sound working, I have an onboard Realtek ALC888 being output via SPDIF (optical) to my speakers. Right now I can only play one sound at a time from them (i.e. rhythmbox, the sound tester, or flash videos all work, but only one at a time). Can someone help me?
[05:12] <mzz> bc: I don't own a netbook, but I looked around a bit a while ago, to see if I might ever buy one
[05:12] <coleys> DJvRadio: Sys > Admin > System Monitor ... Kill the program.
[05:12] <axscode> ﻿minicom: ../iconv/loop.c:430: internal_utf8_loop_single: Assertion `inptr - bytebuf > (state->__count & 7)' failed. <-- anyone knows whats the problem with this im using USB-to-RS232 converter, and i have /dev/ttyUSB0
[05:13] <ralmars> Hey guys, (I have to admit a part of me is a bit embarrassed) I just wanted to know how well Ubuntu 9.04 ran on the new Macbook Pro? Are there any driver issues? Does everything (hardware wise) work well? What about the trackpad and gestures? Thanks
[05:13] <rkavalap> Hi
[05:13] <DJvRadio> thank you coleys
[05:13] <coleys> ralmars: Try the liveCD
[05:13] <bc> mzz: ah. do they sell barebones netbooks?
[05:13] <Petrus> ral...don't you have OSX for a Macbook?
[05:13] <mzz> bc: but basically this means it's really hard to find a system that just barely exceeds those maximum specs that allow manufacturers to ship xp (they're either right at the limit or well over it so it can run vista comfortably)
[05:13] <rkavalap> how does this irc work
[05:13] <bc> mzz: if that even makes any sense?
[05:13] <ralmars> coleys, and petrus I havent bout a macbook pro yet... have never had a mac... ever...
[05:13] <Crash1hd> Its odd you would think that something that has a link inside system would have the gk in the shortcut
[05:13] <mzz> bc: not sure what you mean there
[05:14] <KB1JWQ> bc: They're mostly all barebones.
[05:14] <coleys> ralmars: if your buying a mac book pro for ubuntu, I wouldn't suggest it =p macs are expensive.
[05:14] <bc> mzz: why the xp vs vista? would you be using either one of them?
[05:14] <mzz> bc: I would not, but most people purchasing a system are, so that's what they're built for
[05:14] <Petrus> ralmars...when you buy one, Apple will probably give you a copy of OSX...and if they do, rejoice.  It's FreeBSD based, with a nice shiny interface. ;)
[05:15] <rkavalap> hey............................
[05:15] <|dthacker|> ho............
[05:15] <bc> ralmars: MBPs are nice, but pray you don't get one with any pixel problems.
[05:15] <rkavalap> whats goin guys.. ?
[05:16] <FFForever> how much is different from ubuntu server & debian?
[05:16] <Crash1hd> Hmm seems that it has my moniters backwards argh
[05:16] <ralmars> bc did that happen to you? I suppose apple would fix it free of charge though
[05:16] <tgr> hi i upgraded from ubuntu 8.04 i386 to 9.04 64 bit and was wondering why my windows close slower, my virtualbox doesn't work as well in seamless and programs run slower than before
[05:16] <bc> mzz: re, barebones, I was just speaking about buying your own ram and hdd or whatever else. barebones usually means it comes with the mainboard and processor
[05:16] <coleys> Crash1hd: set them as twins?
[05:16] <KB1JWQ> bc: Get the cheapest they offer, throw that stuff in after the fact.
[05:16] <tgr> i was recommended before to use i386 but did fresh install i have amd 64 x2 turion processor
[05:16] <KB1JWQ> For a $200 machine, it works.
[05:17] <mzz> bc: something like that's an option, yes (just upgrading storage and ram). Screen size is a bit icky.
[05:17] <coleys> tgr: Definitly use amd64. To get the max potential out of your computer.
[05:17] <bc> ralmars: I have a really annoying stuck 'on' pixel close to the center of a $3k 17" glossy MBP and Apple has minumum dead pixel policy
[05:17] <stealth-> is there a way to enable switching out of full screen windows, such as sauerbraten?
[05:17] <mzz> bc: most of the laptops with a nice large screen are a bit over the top as far as other specs (gpu, cpu, etc) goes
[05:17] <stealth-> in gnome ^
[05:18] <tgr> coleys but lately everything is running slower and when i minimize windows in virtualbox i still see small parts of them sometimes
[05:18] <tgr> in seamless
[05:18]  * stealth- hates all the virtual box chat today :(
[05:18] <Petrus> stealth...virtual box?
[05:18] <coleys> tgr: Your not going to get the best performance in a virtual box =p no matter what you use.
[05:18] <tgr> this is a general computer question not just virtual box
[05:18] <syborg> anyone know how to turn off visual effects from the command line?
[05:19] <stealth-> Petrus: yeah... its been mentioned so many times today
[05:19] <bc> ralmars: OS X is very nice though.
[05:19] <tgr> no compared to runnning 8.04 i386 before my computer is running slower coleys
[05:19] <d0htem> sudo apt-get remove compiz :o jk jk
[05:19] <Petrus> syborg ps -ef | grep compiz and then kill -9 <compiz pid>
[05:19] <syborg> Petrus: thanks
[05:19] <coleys> tgr: Running vista?
[05:19] <Nu11u5> anyone here able to help with a grub error 2?
[05:19] <Petrus> you will prolly need to log out if you do that tho...compiz doesn't like being killed. ;)
[05:19] <tgr> i have to run virtual box to get gotomypc working as well as my brokers trading platform
[05:20] <tgr> no i gave up that drug as soon as i got my computer coleys
[05:20] <owen1> how speedup the time it takes to display a character when I hold a key for a few seconds?
[05:20] <coleys> tgr: oh.. xp via virtual box?
[05:20] <tgr> windows 2000 via virtual box
[05:20] <tgr> runs pretty darn fast
[05:20] <coleys> tgr: There's other emulators, like vmware, and qemu you could give a try.
[05:20] <Qwell> owen1: System>Preferences>Keyboard
[05:21] <DJvRadio> cario dock sucks
[05:21] <coleys> DJvRadio: Avant window navigator =)
[05:21] <DJvRadio> ya i got it
[05:21] <tgr> coleys this isn't a virtual box question this is a general question as to why since upgrading my computer is running programs slower and things are choppy when i do my chart work with wine emulator
[05:21] <coleys> DJvRadio: sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[05:21] <owen1> Qwell: thanks. do u know the terminal way of doing it?
[05:21] <Qwell> owen1: gnome-keyboard-preferences
[05:21] <DJvRadio> but i accedentl clicked on it and it would not go away
[05:21] <Urik> Hey guys, I have a question. If I have a path divided with, cut -d" " how can I select the last form?
[05:22] <lstarnes> tgr: did you do a complete version upgrade, like from 8.10 to 9.04?
[05:22] <coleys> tgr: Oh. I see, do you have your graphics drivers? If sooo... are you ATI?>
[05:22] <stealth-> is there a way to enable switching out of full screen windows, such as sauerbraten?
[05:22] <DJvRadio> i got it already
[05:22] <HollywoodJumper> can anyone tell me what is a good voip for ubuntu if any?
[05:22] <tgr> lstarnes fresh install
[05:22] <Urik> if I know the amount of fomrs
[05:22] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: Skype?
[05:22] <mzz> Urik: "select the last form"?
[05:22] <tgr> coleys i have nvidia graphics drivers when i run glxgears everything is ship shape
[05:22] <d0htem> HollywoodJumper: ekiga is default
[05:22] <trogs> hi guys, i have a q regarding xorg + multiple nvidia cards. I have two nvidia cards in my pc, 8500gt with dvi and vga port, and a 6100 with vga port. question is how can I get 3x screens working (nvidia restricted drivers) - I can get 2x working with a bit of hackery in the config. the nvidia-settings app thing does not detect any screen connected to the 6100, nor what's on the vga port of the 8500.
[05:22] <d0htem> skype works on ubuntu as well
[05:22] <mzz> Urik: can you give an example input and desired output?
[05:23] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>ok that makes sense but doesn't ekiga cost money to use?
[05:23] <coleys> tgr: Hum, are you using any extra effects?
[05:23] <tgr> HollywoodJumper, gizmo is sometimes good
[05:23] <tgr> coleys nope
[05:23] <tgr> been like this since install coleys
[05:23] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: Ekiga is free, im pretty sure. So is skype.
[05:23] <Urik> mzz: exactly. I want to single out the filename. so I do an echo /home/uri/lol.txt | cut -d"/" -f
[05:23] <Urik> but the path is a variable
[05:23] <tgr> you know how computers run when they have too much cpu stuff going on that is what it is running like now that i upgraded to 9.04 eventhough i am not running much of anything
[05:23] <mzz> Urik: mmm, from skimming the manpage I'm not sure if cut does this, but hang on
[05:23] <Urik> so the number after the -f should change
[05:24] <coleys> tgr: Im not really sure what's going on.  =( I find some intalls to be choppy. Did you just recently install?
[05:24] <DJvRadio> there be a driver conflict trogs
[05:24] <KB1JWQ> Urik: You can do this with a regex.
[05:24] <HollywoodJumper> ok next question i have been having trouble with ktorrent.  is there a better bittorrent client available?
[05:24] <tgr> yes i installed recently and did all updates
[05:24] <tgr> coleys
[05:24] <KB1JWQ> There MAY be a bash shortcut for it as well; try asking in #bash?
[05:24] <swoody> Does anyone know a quick/easy way to roll back the kernel in 8.10?
[05:24] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: Are you using Kubuntu?
[05:24] <trogs> it's using the same driver, and it does detect the card and show it in the nvidia-settings app
[05:24] <trogs> just doesn't show any screens connected
[05:24] <d0htem> swoody: just use grub to boot another kernel
[05:24] <tyler_d> my dhclient doesn't start when my server 8.04 comes up... ? why would this happen...? how do I fix it?
[05:24] <Urik> regex? going to try it. Thanks.
[05:24] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>no i am using ubuntu
[05:25] <swoody> d0htem>  how would I go about that?
[05:25] <mzz> Urik: (sed could do it, but I'm trying to find a prettier way)
[05:25] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: eww. Try deluge or transmission
[05:25] <d0htem> swoody: escape when it says escape to eneter menu on reboot
[05:25] <tgr> coleys should i go back and fresh install 9.04 i386?
[05:25] <d0htem> grub menu :D
[05:25] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: ktorrent is for kde.
[05:25] <hoymkot_> how do i download from ubuntu 9.04 to 8.10
[05:25] <lstarnes> tyler_d: check /etc/network/interfaces for anything about dhcp
[05:25] <Petrus> mzz cut is fine...all he needs is the right field number
[05:25] <lstarnes> hoymkot_: you have to reinstall 8.10
[05:25] <mzz> Petrus: yes, but what if that number isn't fixed?
[05:25] <blaenk> hey guys, how can I add my ftp server to my remote places again? I forgot
[05:25] <tgr> coleys i am not too good at trouble fixing
[05:25] <coleys> tgr: Uhm, I'd try another fresh install of amd64. It should work flawlessly.
[05:25] <mzz> Petrus: afaict cut doesn't have a way to say "last field"
[05:25] <Petrus> expr in a variable, mzz :)
[05:25] <blaenk> so that I can connect to it and edit files as if they were on my own computer, I am on gnome
[05:25] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>i cant fihure out how to use Transmission
[05:26] <mzz> Petrus: ugh, that sounds considerably more complicated than just doing it with a re
[05:26] <Urik> thanks mzz.
[05:26] <Petrus> count up the number of slashes or whatever else you need, and then work backwards
[05:26] <tgr> i have 2 installs on my system already and it works the same on the other too
[05:26] <swoody> d0htem>  then how do I make it use that kernel from then on, instead of auto-booting the new one?
[05:26] <coleys> tgr: If you experience the same problems, then you'll know it has to do with that. and you can return to i386
[05:26] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: What do you mean, pretty basic program.
[05:26] <nanbanjin> woh, how I use cut when delimiter is not ann ASCII caracter? ( it is an mdash in my case )
[05:26] <d0htem> swoody: u could remove the newest kernel by searching linux-image in synaptic, but i wouldnt recommened that
[05:26] <Petrus> mzz not for me it isn't...I've tried learning regexes...none of the ones I find online work with either sed or grep
[05:26] <Petrus> they're all perl or .net now
[05:26] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>how do i search for files?
[05:26] <d0htem> swoody: what program needs re compiling??
[05:26] <tyler_d> lstarnes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164661/ is my configuration
[05:26] <mzz> Urik: try sed -e 's:.*/\(.*\):\1:'
[05:26] <Petrus> and neither of them are compatible with grep
[05:27] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: Via command line? sudo apt-cache search packagename
[05:27] <Crash1hd> What is the difference between seperate x and twin view duel moniters?
[05:27] <tyler_d> lstarnes: nothing re: dhcp within there.. trying to configure it static
[05:27] <hoymkot_> where are you ubotto
[05:27] <coleys> Crash1hd: Twin makes it so you can drag from one screen to the other.
[05:27] <tgr> coleys but shouldn't amd64 9.04 run flawlessly on a notebook with turion 64 x2 processor?
[05:27] <mzz> Urik: (which is ugly, I wish I knew a command to reverse each line in a file)
[05:27] <blaenk> anybody?
[05:27] <swoody> d0htem>  well the latest kernel disabled internet on an Acer Aspire one, and I read it's a kernel bug, and to roll back for it to work again
[05:27] <blaenk> hey guys, how can I add my ftp server to my remote places again? I am on gnome
[05:27] <Matson> can someone help me understand this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/86685  -it describes exactly the problem I'm having, but I don't seem to find the fix
[05:27] <mzz> Urik: (so you could do that, then cut -f1 -d/, then reverse each line again)
[05:27] <lstarnes> tyler_d: dhclient usually won't be started unless your interfaces use dhcp for configuration
[05:27] <coleys> tgr: Yeah it really should, I don't know what's going on =/
[05:28] <Crash1hd> coleys: ok so twin is like having 1 extended desktop
[05:28] <HollywoodJumper> coseys>so i search for files using transmission but through terminal?
[05:28] <tyler_d> lstarnes: however when I do ifconfig after starting eth0 is not shown?
[05:28] <J-_> what dynamic DNS update protocol is used with freedns.afraid.org?
[05:28] <coleys> Crash1hd: Yeah basically.
[05:28] <mzz> Petrus: I can never remember where to backslash-escape, because it differs between grep, egrep and sed
[05:28] <Urik> works like a charm. thanks mzz
[05:28] <lstarnes> tyler_d: try ifconfig -a
[05:28] <Matson> when it says "Nominated for Hardy" and fix released - what do I do to get it?
[05:28] <Crash1hd> coleys: ahh ok thanks
[05:28] <lstarnes> tyler_d: and try adding "auto eth0" before eth0's iface line
[05:28] <coleys> Crash1hd: I see the fresh install worked, grats =)
[05:29] <Petrus> mzz...exactly...I'll quite happily write out 5-10 lines in bash if I have to, in order to be able to avoid a regex.  I like code that I can actually read. ;)
[05:29] <Crash1hd> coleys: yes yes it did :) needed to make that /boot partition small
[05:29] <mzz> Urik: although there's actually a "basename" tool that just does what you want
[05:29] <tyler_d> lstarnes: ok... added that and bouncing
[05:29] <coleys> Crash1hd: Ohh nice, manually partitioned then?
[05:29] <Matson> what does this mean "It has been fixed in the development release by syncing that fix from Debian"  -- from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/86685
[05:29] <Crash1hd> coleys: yes
[05:29] <Urik> :'| lol
[05:29] <mzz> Petrus: I usually resort to trial and error to figure out which backslash escapes I need. Apart from that they're not that bad.
[05:30] <Urik> good to know
[05:30] <lstarnes> tyler_d: once that line is added it should be configured automatically on startup to use the static ip.  also, without restarting, try sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:30] <coleys> Crash1hd: You rock then haha. I could never figure that out =p
[05:30] <tyler_d> lstarnes: doh... already bouncing....
[05:30] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>do i need to know the name of the torrent file before i search in terminal?
[05:30] <yn_> hi. Anyone have experience with the ubuntu netbook remix and ideapad s10?
[05:30] <tyler_d> lstarnes: shouldn't take to long... decent box config.
[05:30] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: search for torrents at http://mininova.org
[05:30] <tyler_d> lstarnes: and tada its back up just like that tyvm :)
[05:30] <swoody> d0htem>  ok, thx :)
[05:30] <ade__> I can't seem to switch user.  When I try to "switch user", all I ever get is the screensaver.  There is a "switch user" button there, but it doesn't respond.  The only thing that works is reentering my password, and I'm back to myself.  Any ideas how to make switch user work?
[05:31] <Crash1hd> coleys: :) thanks heres the odd one now that i have done dual moniters my main bar where you can close programs with the x is gone on all apps?
[05:31] <d0htem> swoody: np np
[05:31] <mzz> ade__: are you running gdm?
[05:31] <coleys> Crash1hd: So you just see max, min?
[05:31] <ade__> mzz, yes, I believe so.
[05:31] <Crash1hd> coleys: I see none
[05:31] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>i ahve been tryin to download from mininova.org and have had many successful downloads through ktorrent but recently they have stalled without reason.
[05:31] <mzz> ade__: then I don't know, sorry
[05:31] <lstarnes> Matson: it might mean that a fix has been released but has only been committed to the development release (9.10) but not committed to stable releases like 8.04-9.04
[05:32] <Crash1hd> coleys: no bar at all
[05:32] <chouchou> Please, I just installed Ubungu on My PC. I would like to set up a server so i can develop my PHP applications
[05:32] <chouchou> can some1 assiist pls :)
[05:32] <ade__> mzz, you think it has something to do with using gdm?
[05:32] <coleys> Crash1hd: Hmmm, are you trying to use emerald by chance?
[05:32] <Matson> lstarnes: thanks
[05:32] <Crash1hd> coleys: nope
[05:32] <Matson> it looks like a bug from 2007 but still in hardy
[05:32] <mzz> ade__: no, I suspect that it won't work at all if you're not (if you're using startx or the like)
[05:32] <coleys> Crash1hd: Alt + f2 --> metacity --reload
[05:32] <lstarnes> Matson: I might be wrong about that though.  it may need some additional testing before being committed
[05:32] <mzz> ade__: I don't use this feature myself though, I'm always myself (although often spread across multiple systems through ssh :)
[05:33] <yn_> the specific question that i have is: how do I install UNR so taht I don't ruin my ability to restore?
[05:33] <tyler_d> still getting -- * Stopping domain name service... bind                                                                                     rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
[05:33] <lstarnes> tyler_d: did bind even get started?
[05:33] <KB1JWQ> tyler_d: So it can't communicate to localhost.  Odd.
[05:33] <yn_> do a system restore that is
[05:33] <Crash1hd> coleys: nothing happened
[05:34] <KB1JWQ> yn_: Your netbook should have come with a CD that lets you reimage it without the restore partition.
[05:34] <coleys> Crash1hd: Lemme understand, uhhh you can't see the top bar of windows?
[05:34] <tyler_d> bind was started
[05:34] <KB1JWQ> Failing that, just don't blow away the tiny partition when you install.
[05:34] <yn_> no, the s10 comes with a hidden partition that acts as the restore
[05:34] <tyler_d> reconfigured /etc/resolve.conf and bounced the network and bind9
[05:34] <KB1JWQ> tyler_d: You sure?  netstat confirmed it was running?
[05:34] <Crash1hd> coleys: correct
[05:34] <tyler_d> ps -ef | grep -i bind
[05:34] <Crash1hd> coleys: on any window
[05:35] <Matson> how difficult is it to upgrade from hardy to intrepid?
[05:35] <Freddo_Frog> Hi, I am trying to get AWN working in Ubuntu 9.04. it seems that my GFX card cannot handle compositing. it is an intel card, i can get compiz to work on archlinux? what am i doing wrong.
[05:35] <ljsoftnet> hello
[05:35] <coleys> Matson: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:35] <Matson> becuase **TRAC** doesn't work on hardy on my platform
[05:35] <coleys> Crash1hd: Restart
[05:35] <Matson> according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/86685
[05:35] <lstarnes> Matson: it shouldn't be very difficult if you do it through the update manager
[05:35] <KB1JWQ> yn_: Could dd the entire drive from a liveCD to another box / external drive image.
[05:35] <Matson> his is > 2 years old
[05:35] <Crash1hd> coleys: gonna try that
[05:35]  * Petrus grins at coleys...I thought getting updates was easy too, once.
[05:36] <coleys> Petrus: I never upgrade, just fresh =p
[05:36] <lstarnes> coleys: I don't think dist-upgrade upgrades to a later release of ubuntu
[05:36] <tyler_d> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164665/ is my output from local
[05:36] <tyler_d> I haven't touched that.. nor do I have a firewall installed
[05:37] <Matson> lstarnes: " I don't think dist-upgrade upgrades "  can you explain that?
[05:37] <lstarnes> Matson: read the rest of the line
[05:37] <Matson> to go grom 8.04 -> 9.04, I would use dist-upgrade , right?
[05:37] <lstarnes> Matson: no, you use the update manager
[05:37] <Matson> lstarnes: what is "update mamanger"?
[05:38] <chouchou> Hello, it s me again
[05:38] <Matson> I don't have GUI on this machine
[05:38] <lstarnes> Matson: oh
[05:38] <ljsoftnet> hi
[05:38] <ZeZu> hmm
[05:38] <Chr|s> MatBoy: what version of ubuntu don't have a gui?
[05:38] <lstarnes> Chr|s: server
[05:38] <blaenk> kapchoi: what's up
[05:38] <ZeZu> indeed, or custom install
[05:38] <lstarnes> Chr|s: any ubuntu installation can be configured to not use a gui
[05:38] <kapchoi> hey!!!!
[05:38] <Matson> I have a serious problem, becuase trac doesn't work on 8.04
[05:38] <lstarnes> Matson: apt-get dist-upgrade is used for updating packages to the newest version in the repositories for the release you have installed
[05:39] <kapchoi> blaenk: its working!!
[05:39] <kapchoi> awesomeness
[05:39] <lstarnes> Matson: but look at do-release-upgrade
[05:39] <lstarnes> Matson: wait, that's not it
[05:39] <KB1JWQ> Matson: Seems to work.
[05:39] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>so i just type 'sudo apt-cache search package' and then the name of torrent file?
[05:39] <Matson> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/86685
[05:39] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: No, that's for finding programs
[05:39] <Matson> 2 years old, confirmed last on 2009-04-22
[05:39] <chouchou> can someone assist pls?
[05:39] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: To search torrents, just use google 'blah blah blah torrent'
[05:40] <lstarnes> Matson: is that with the trac package in the repos or a downloaded and installed tarball of trac?
[05:40] <HollywoodJumper> coseys>then what do i type into Transmission once i have found a torrent?
[05:40] <coleys> Crash1hd: alt + f2 --> metacity --replace
[05:40] <tyler_d> ok so named -g -p 53 tells me that the path for the key was incorrect.. updated that
[05:40] <tyler_d> still doesn't like the key...
[05:41] <tyler_d> attempting a symlink
[05:41] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: Nothing, right click on the torrent choose Open With, and choose Transmission.
[05:41] <battlepope> I can't get sound working on my Realtek ALC888 via SPDIF on Ubuntu 9.04. Can anyone help me?
[05:41] <Matson> lstarnes: apt-get install trac
[05:41] <Matson> just fails
[05:41] <lstarnes> Matson: try using a tarball from trac's site
[05:41] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>how can i update my version of Transmission bittorrent client?
[05:42] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:42] <Matson> lstarnes: the error is not in trac, it is in "python-clearsilver"
[05:42] <HollywoodJumper> coleys>ok ill do that thanks a lot.
[05:42] <Matson> and frankly, I'm not debugging in whitespace
[05:43] <coleys> HollywoodJumper: Good luck =)
[05:43] <lstarnes> Matson: what is the error?
[05:43] <nadeem> hi everyone
[05:44] <rkavalap> Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:44] <Matson> lstarnes: http://208.69.42.194/scpfiles/1241498639.png
[05:44] <ljsoftnet> hello
[05:44] <jawall> Anyone have an idea why my laptop runs great on battery power and cpu usage goes crazy when I plu gin the AC power?
[05:44] <KB1JWQ> jawall: Yeah, likely the power daemon blows up. :)
[05:44] <coleys> wahaha. :)
[05:44] <Qwell> Would somebody mind confirming some behavior for me, so I can rule out my own config and sanity?
[05:45] <KB1JWQ> jawall: Check to ensure power management is enabled in BIOS, for one.
[05:45] <jawall> how to I repair that?
[05:45] <jawall> ah
[05:45] <rkavalap> jawall: you need to check your power management settings in bios and the OS
[05:45] <lstarnes> Matson: it might be that trac needs to use python2.4
[05:45] <dman777> if a user is in wheel group does that mean they have credentials to run shutdown or reboot?
[05:46] <Qwell> dman777: it means they can sudo
[05:46] <blaenk> !ati
[05:46] <Matson> can I have 2.4 and 2.5 install at the same timE?
[05:46] <lstarnes> Matson: yes
[05:46] <lstarnes> Matson: it could also be a rare bug caused by using 64-bit instead of 32-bit
[05:46] <Matson> I think that is the case
[05:47] <blaenk> !java
[05:47] <kapchoi> !csharp
[05:47] <kapchoi> haha
[05:47] <Matson> if a fix is "Realeased"  can I simply patch?
[05:47] <kapchoi> !mp3
[05:47] <lstarnes> Matson: wait for it to be committed
[05:47] <coleys> Matson: It should patch via upgrades.
[05:47] <x4ch1> wuenas
[05:47] <rob> www.ustream.tv/channel/travmon
[05:47] <kapchoi> !mono
[05:48] <blaenk> !mono-project
[05:48] <tyler_d> and voila... it is done
[05:48] <Matson> *sigh*
[05:48] <x4ch1> ?
[05:48] <Matson> wel I did a lot of research if Ubuntu would work on AMD64
[05:48] <michael1> My wireless doesn't work. I'm on a fresh install of Jaunty, with an Intel 3945 wireless card. Ubuntu comes with the driver, but "lshw" outputs "network UNCLAIMED". Ideas?
[05:48] <Matson> and now we are committed to it
[05:49] <felixsulla> Why would I get a "permission denied" when tryin to copy a file from desktop to /usr/share/vim/vim72/ftplugin when I'm in gksu nautilus?
[05:49] <Matson> trac is not some esoteric fringe tool for a server
[05:49] <lstarnes> Matson: I use amd64 and rearely run into any problems that don't occur on the 32-but version
[05:49] <rkavalap> how do i add channels in xchat ?
[05:49] <lstarnes> rkavalap: /join
[05:49] <tyler_d> they key lstarnes and KB1JWQ was to put include "/etc/bind/rndc.key";  in named.conf.local as well to ensure the line below doesn't reference the full path...
[05:49] <Crash1hd> Ok so I have lost the title bar to all my programs argh
[05:50] <rkavalap> join
[05:50] <felixsulla> rkavalap: You mean right now, or each time it starts up?
[05:50] <lstarnes> rkavalap: you missed the /
[05:50] <fiyawerx> What is the easiest way to share a partition, say /mnt/storage, betwen multiple users so any can read/write it on your system?
[05:50] <lstarnes> rkavalap: and you need to follow it with a channel name, like /join #ubuntu
[05:50] <fiyawerx> well, most correct way i should say
[05:50] <rkavalap> I am new to irc
[05:51] <hoymkot_> i can't start the x-session for ubuntu , i want to use the ubuntu cd to recover from it, what should i do
[05:51] <rkavalap> i am trying this for the first time.
[05:51] <yn_> awesome
[05:51] <tyler_d> now hopefully this sticks after my update.....
[05:51] <yn_> I think today was the first time i've ever said no a MS EULA the first time I booted my computer, and then just blew the XP partition away
[05:51] <rkavalap> i seem to understand a little bit but not quite completely
[05:52] <anom01y> what drivers do I need for a nvidia 8800 gt ???
[05:52] <mattnux> hello all
[05:52] <rkavalap> lstarnes: there might be thousands of channels, do we need to know the name of the channel specifically if i need to join to ??
[05:52] <lstarnes> rkavalap: yes
[05:52] <coleys> What is gnome-do?
[05:52] <audioInk> hey does anyone know where i can get a completely free domain? prefer a .com i know its a stretch but it would be nice
[05:53] <mattnux> free domain?
[05:53] <Qwell> audioInk: no such thing.
[05:53] <mattnux> :D
[05:53] <rkavalap> lstarnes: can i multitask between channels ??
[05:53] <lstarnes> rkavalap: an irc client can be in multiple channels
[05:53] <mattnux> yes
[05:53] <mattnux> can be
[05:53] <audioInk> Qwell: well what about the cheapest there is?
[05:54] <Qwell> it's like $8/year
[05:54] <mactimes> Qwell: Jesus could give him one if he prayed very intensively, but I guess here is no longer registering domains... |(^_^)|
[05:54] <Qwell> mactimes: who?
[05:54] <hoymkot_>  i can't start the x-session for ubuntu , i want to use the ubuntu cd to recover from it, what should i do
[05:54] <hoymkot_> Please help me
[05:54] <mactimes> Qwell: About the free domain thing. :P
[05:54] <coleys> hoymkot_: Do you get to command line?
[05:54] <hoymkot_> yes
[05:55] <hoymkot_> coleys, yes
[05:55] <coleys> hoymkot_: type: startx
[05:55] <mactimes> Qwell: That would be a miracle. ^^
[05:55] <Guest69796> ummmm is there a way to switch between kde gdm
[05:55] <audioInk> Qwell: i just don't get why i have to pay a yearly subscription. like what if i host myself??
[05:55] <hoymkot_> coleys, it does not work, it fails to show the GUI
[05:55] <lstarnes> Guest69796: yes
[05:55] <Guest69796> how?
[05:55] <Qwell> audioInk: Because somebody has to manage the millions of domains.  You are paying them to manage that.
[05:55] <lstarnes> Guest69796: do you mean kde and gnome, or kdm and gdm?
[05:55] <hoymkot_> coleys: it does not work
[05:55] <yn_> audiolnk: do you know how the internet works?
[05:55] <rkavalap> lstarnes: I am not able to connect to other channels
[05:56] <lstarnes> rkavalap: like what>
[05:56] <Qwell> audioInk: otherwise, what's to stop me from registering every possible domain?
[05:56] <Guest69796> kdm and gdm
[05:56] <rkavalap> freenode
[05:56] <raevol> hello all, my pulse audio isn't saving my volume levels when i reboot, any ideas?
[05:56] <coleys> hoymkot_: Boot in recovery mode, choose option to fix delay issues, check file systems too =)
[05:56] <lstarnes> rkavalap: channels usually start with a # sign
[05:56] <hoymkot_> coleys, i did but none of them work
[05:56] <lstarnes> Guest69796: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:56] <lstarnes> Guest69796: or kdm instead of gdm
[05:57] <michael1> My wireless doesn't work. I'm on a fresh install of Jaunty, with an Intel 3945 wireless card. Ubuntu comes with the driver, but "lshw" outputs "network UNCLAIMED".
[05:57] <Guest69796> thanks
[05:57] <chetnick> why is my appearance preference crashing, when i try ti add certain themes. It does not produce error or warning it just hangs.
[05:57] <rkavalap> lstarnes: I am trying to do this in the gui
[05:57] <lstarnes> rkavalap: do what?
[05:57] <audioInk> Qwell: true, but its companies that are gettign that money to register it. i know they are accredited but its still kinda dumb cause they are getting paid to basically not do anything if i host myself.
[05:58] <Qwell> audioInk: ...
[05:58] <rkavalap> lstarnes: connect to another channel
[05:58] <Guest69796> that worked great
[05:58] <Qwell> audioInk: welcome to the Internet.
[05:58] <lstarnes> rkavalap: just use /join #other-channel
[05:58] <Guest69796> how do u setup audio on my w322 laptop
[05:58] <yn_> audiolnk: they are maintaining the records that let the rest of the internet find your domain
[05:58] <yn_> I'd think that's worth a few dollars
[05:59] <Guest69796> how do u setup audio on my w322 laptop?
[05:59] <fiyawerx> can anyone tell me what the best way is to share a mounted drive between multiple users?
[05:59] <mactimes> audioInk: One thing is hosting the "contents".  Another thing is "managing name-to-ip resolutions, subnets, routes, etc."
[05:59] <audioInk> Qwell: yeah, and corporate America. i was just wondering if there was anything like what i was looking for.... any suggestions on the best place to get one?
[05:59] <hoymkot_> coleys: i did but none of them works
[05:59] <mactimes> audioInk: As you said, you'll just hold to the "contents" part.
[05:59] <yn_> corporate America.... how awful
[06:00] <x4ch1> mm
[06:00] <michael1> no help with the wireless then?
[06:00] <audioInk> mactimes: ah ok i get it so they handle the routing.... makes sense now
[06:00] <rkavalap> lstarnes: got it. thnx for the help
[06:01] <willmtsai> I am very new at ubuntu. Currently, i have installed 9.04 on my HP tx2500 laptop. Sound does not play. Could someone help?
[06:01] <gerber> my toten player is not working ubuntu 9.04
[06:02] <joetheodd> Where are the really old repos hosted? I know it's unsupported, but this is for emergency stuff.
[06:02] <x4ch1> Good would like to know because when i finish installing the driver of my card inlambrica i appears driver invalid to kaso is not compatible?
[06:02] <Canid> Hello
[06:02] <gerber> my toten player is not working ubuntu 9.04
[06:02] <lstarnes> joetheodd: try old-releases.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <joetheodd> lstarnes, thanks
[06:02] <audioInk> well thanks everyone who helped clear everything up. wading though the intarwebs is frustrating sometimes and this was a lot more informative than reading a wikipedia article
[06:02] <gerber> any help
[06:02] <Matson> so if I have both python2.4 and 2.5 installed, how do I tell apache mod_python to use python2.4?
[06:03] <gerber> my toten player is not working ubuntu 9.04
[06:03] <Matson> python -c 'import neo_cgi'
[06:03] <x4ch1> Good would like to know because when i finish installing the driver of my card wireless i appears driver invalid to kaso is not compatible?
[06:03] <Matson> works on 2.4
[06:03] <x4ch1> Good would like to know because when i finish installing the driver of my card wireless i appears driver invalid to kaso is not compatible?
[06:03] <Canid> I've just installed Ubuntu 9.04... but every time I try using the Add/Remove programs application, ubuntu is logging me out before it finished installing anything
[06:03] <tyler_d> here's one a little easier I hope.. I have a 680i sli mobo with a raid 5 on it..... I need to mount this to /var/www/ or such? I have installed dmraid and dmraid -r shows what I think is correct(raid 5 and such) I now need to mount this and need help configuring /etc/fstab to mount this array on boot?
[06:04] <zheng> Anyone can tell me 9.04 jaunty-dvd-i386.iso's md5sum? I can't access the web. thx
[06:04] <]RandoM[> uhhh alsa got all screwed up.. it was working before and i tried to patch it and now i'm stuck with no sound
[06:04] <Canid> I was able to install something through the terminal... but does anyone know why it's doing that?
[06:04] <MK13> does any one else have a problem w/ help freezing after clicking on a help topic?
[06:04] <gerber> my toten player is not working ubuntu 9.04
[06:04] <willmtsai> I am very new at ubuntu. Currently, i have installed 9.04 x64 on my HP tx2500 laptop. Sound does not play. When volume buttons are pressed, the computer screen tells me that the volume is changing, but there is no sound. Could someone help?
[06:04] <kindofabuzz> the google reader prism update totally broke it
[06:04] <gerber> my toten player is not working ubuntu 9.04
[06:05] <yn_> willmtsai: does sound work in general? in windows?
[06:05] <gerber> my toten player is not working ubuntu 9.04
[06:05] <willmtsai> in ubuntu
[06:05] <Canid> It doesn't show any errors, it just goes to the login screen
[06:05] <yn_> willmtsai: how do you know its not a hardware issue?
[06:05] <gerber> my toten player is not working ubuntu 9.04
[06:05] <carsonc> gerber: Yes, we gathered that.  Apparently nobody knows the answer to your implied question right now.
[06:05] <x4ch1> ok
[06:05] <yn_> gerber: stop that
[06:05] <willmtsai> I know that on certain forums, people have gotten it working, but I don't really know how.
[06:06] <willmtsai> Windows does play sound.
[06:06] <]RandoM[> i'm trying to troubleshoot alsa and i'm geting 'cat: /proc/asound/version: No such file or directory'.. anybody know what i should do? it lists my soundcard when i do lspci.. nothing when i do aplay -l
[06:06] <yn_> type in lsmod, put the results on pastie.org
[06:06] <tyler_d> command line utility for mounting drives?
[06:06] <kindofabuzz> what is Windows?
[06:06] <|Zippo|> someone is using conky over widget layer on compiz?
[06:06] <lstarnes> zheng: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/MD5SUMS says it is cca45d814048b5b322773561ad7c75d8
[06:06] <kindofabuzz> tyler_d, mount
[06:06] <yn_> kindofabuzz: its this crappy OS that people use to test if their sound is working
[06:06] <carsonc> tyler_d: Er..."mount"?  And then unmount with "umount"?
[06:06] <willmtsai> kindofabuzz I have 2 OSs installed cause im new at ubuntu.
[06:06] <gerber> you dvd works ?
[06:07] <pipegeek> So... I really have no idea how the gnome/hal automounting magic works.  *Really* long shot here, but does anyone know of a way to mark a filesystem such that gnome will refuse to mount it?
[06:07] <zheng> lstarnes, thank you so much.
[06:07] <lstarnes> zheng: its sha1sum is 5d7e225665d7425a16e3819b6e20063eea0342b9
[06:07] <zheng> thx
[06:07] <michael1> willmtsai: does your volume work on your other OS?
[06:07] <jon1982> hi
[06:07] <pipegeek> the idea being that there're two partitions on a certain flash drive, only one of which should really ever get mounted (windows and macos get it right, for two different vaguely broken and accidental reasons)
[06:07] <lstarnes> zheng: also, this may be off-topic, but how are you on irc if you can't access the web?
[06:08] <kindofabuzz> anyone have a broken prism-google-reader? was fine until the last update
[06:08] <tyler_d> kindofabuzz: that was excellent response time.. now could I bother you for a hand configuring my fsab?
[06:08] <willmtsai> michael1 yes the volume works in Vista.
[06:08] <Canid> Hi... is anyone available to answer my question?
[06:08] <gerber> 9.04 has too many bugs
[06:08] <jon1982> im having an issue installing 9.04 on raid/lvm. it stops while installing lilo....
[06:08] <zheng> our network manager disable web surfing.
[06:08] <lstarnes> gerber: new releases generally do
[06:08] <yn_> gerber: troll much?
[06:09] <lstarnes> zheng: consider a different job or asking your admin to allow access to certain work-related thigns
[06:09] <willmtsai> 9.04 seems to work much better than the previous one tho.
[06:09] <willmtsai> at least for me
[06:09] <tyler_d> mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[06:09] <zheng> lstarnes, :), Now its so hard to find a good job
[06:09] <]RandoM[> yn_: lsmod http://pastie.org/468377.txt
[06:10] <jon1982> nobody?
[06:10] <Petrus> gerber...a suggestion.  Troll about how bad Ubuntu is in private messages...the ops don't kick you, and you can actually manage to convince a few people to migrate away from it as well...it's win/win. ;)
[06:11] <willmtsai> willmtsai@Linux-HPLaptop:~$ aplay -l
[06:11] <willmtsai> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[06:11] <willmtsai> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC268 Analog [ALC268 Analog]
[06:11] <willmtsai>   Subdevices: 1/1
[06:11] <willmtsai>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[06:11] <FloodBot2> willmtsai: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <willmtsai> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC268 Digital [ALC268 Digital]
[06:12] <jon1982> ok, so does anybody have a clue why ubuntu fails at the lilo installation on a raid/lvm disk setup?
[06:12] <Livingroom> ok guys. no sound in ubuntu. where do i start
[06:12] <emulator> fgsdg
[06:12] <willmtsai> sorry about that. Dont know how to paste.
[06:12] <tyler_d> how would i nuke that array and format it as an ext3 filesystem
[06:12]  * Petrus suspects that the operators of this channel have developed a good understanding of how Microsoft's tech support staff feel...the only difference, of course, is that in reward for debasing themselves on a daily basis, Microsoft's tech support staff are getting paid. ;)
[06:12] <tyler_d> seeing as how mount hates it
[06:12] <gerber> I love ubunttu ,don't get me wrong.  ijust want a support how to deal with it.
[06:12] <jon1982> my god
[06:13] <jon1982> debian installed without a damn hitch
[06:13] <phoenixz> Hi, on kubuntu 904 using firefox with adobe flash, when I watch flash movies, quite often, the sound suddenly gets stuck in a 200mSec loop which sounds like tatatatatatatawiwiwiwiwiwiquququququ etc... when one goes like this, ALL go like that and I have to restart firefox to fix it.. What is the cause of this, and how can i fix it?
[06:13] <HollywoodJumper> sudo-apt get upgrade    Is that correct?
[06:13] <willmtsai> Hi, can anyone help with sound problems? HP tx2500 9.04 x64
[06:13] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:14] <jblade> hello  i am just trying ubuntu and xchat
[06:14] <jon1982> wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-501-i386-netinst.iso
[06:14] <tyler_d> sold with sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdd
[06:14] <Livingroom> willmtsai i wish i have no sound either this seems an epidemic with ubuntu and the general opinion is "mine works, so screw you"
[06:14] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes> that should upgrade my apps right?
[06:15] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: it will update all packages to the newest version found in the repositories
[06:15] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: before using it, don't forget to use sudo apt-get update
[06:15] <jon1982> cdrecord -v -pad speed=1 dev=0,0,0 debian-501-i386-netinst.iso
[06:15] <jblade> do this work like the excursion mirc?
[06:15] <Gadu> join #offtopic
[06:15] <gerber> any one has problem with DVD movies?
[06:15] <x4ch1> holas
[06:16] <x4ch1> hello
[06:16] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>ok what will that do?
[06:16] <jon1982> oh well
[06:16] <willmtsai> livingroom: All right then, thanks though.
[06:16] <mpontillo> !sound
[06:16] <jon1982> ubuntu FAIL
[06:16] <jon1982> later
[06:16] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: update the local copy of the repository indexes, so that the package management system knows which packages are newest
[06:16] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>ok thanks a lot
[06:17] <jawall> power issues,, might as well go back to windows...
[06:17] <jawall> Xorg uses 4% of the cpu when running on battery power.. Xorg uses over 90% when on AC power
[06:18] <gerber> it seem like i have not chice to go back to window, no one is helping me
[06:18] <willmtsai> ubottu: Thanks, but alsa is selected. Also, typing alsa -l tells me that Ubuntu does detect my sound stuff(dunno whats its called)
[06:18] <willmtsai> oops
[06:18] <RedSocrates> gerber> any one has problem with DVD movies?
[06:18] <RedSocrates> Perhaps a more specific question?
[06:18] <ibuclaw> jawall, what are you using to measure the CPU usage?
[06:19] <jawall> top
[06:19] <jawall> in terminal
[06:19] <lstarnes> gerber: that doesn't mean that you need that you need to go back to windows (or say that you are);  just be patient.  sooner or later someone will have a good answer for you
[06:19] <eggsby> anyone got a second to help a noob out?
[06:19] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>so i ran the sudo apt-get upgrade command and it didnt upgrade anything
[06:19] <lstarnes> gerber: what about totem doesn't work?
[06:19] <jawall> I guess, I've scoured the forums
[06:19] <gerber> ok thank you
[06:19] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: then everything is up to date with the repositories
[06:19] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Ask your question; if someone's available to help, they will
[06:19] <Canid> DOes anyone know why the package manager would log me out after a couple minutes use?
[06:20] <eggsby> okey dokey.
[06:20] <ibuclaw> jawall, what type of gfx card?
[06:20] <jawall> I've been using ubuntu insotead of windows since january,, but this last upgrade is awful
[06:20] <Livingroom> !mp3
[06:20] <_fynn> where con i find information about a kernelpanic yesterday evening at shutdown? there's nothing in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[06:20] <jawall> not sure, same one was owkring on 8.x jsut fine
[06:20] <eggsby> Had desktop effects working fine about two hours ago, trying to fix some weird issue led me to thinking I should install the open source radeon drivers
[06:20] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>i am trying to upgrade Transmission bitorrent client am i going about it the wrong way?
[06:20] <lstarnes> jawall: most new versions still have some bugs until a couple months or so after their release
[06:20] <ibuclaw> _fynn, look at the archives
[06:20] <eggsby> But I was apparently doing something wrong in the installation process, because everytime I run gdm restart it just goes to black screen
[06:20] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:21] <HollywoodJumper> lsatrnes>8.04.1
[06:21] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Can you not just remove the radeon drivers?
[06:21] <ibuclaw> zcat /var/log/syslog.1.gz
[06:21] <ibuclaw> _fynn, ^^
[06:21] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>8.04.1
[06:21] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Or are you trying to find a solution that keeps them but also makes the rest work?
[06:21] <eggsby> well
[06:21] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: what version of transmission do you want?
[06:22] <eggsby> I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:22] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>1.60
[06:22] <eggsby> To get a default blank xorg.conf
[06:22] <ibuclaw> _fynn, also, System->Administration->Log File Viewer
[06:22] <eggsby> And now I can't get desktop effects enabled or anything
[06:22] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: 1.06 is the officially supported version for ubuntu 8.04
[06:22] <willmtsai> Hello? Anyone can help with tx2500 sound problems?
[06:22] <RedSocrates> eggsby: So you're using a blank xorg.conf right now?
[06:22] <eggsby> Mhmm
[06:23] <Dhraakellian> got a problem or two with htop and screen-profiles
[06:23] <_fynn> ibuclaw: the time where the kernelpanic was is still in the normal syslog, ont in the archives, but there'S nothing exceptional..
[06:23] <eggsby> should I try out that debx or whatever thing
[06:23] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: 8.10 has transmission 1.34 and 9.04 has 1.51
[06:23] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>so i am runninng against myself in a ratrace.
[06:23] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Have you tried it without having an xorg.conf at all?
[06:23] <eggsby> no didn't know that was even possible
[06:23] <Dhraakellian> how would I either (a) get function keys working as normal or (b) get mouse clicks to work?
[06:23] <RedSocrates> eggsby : I don't know what you mean by "debx or whatever thing"
[06:23] <eggsby> some sort of configuration tool for xorg.conf
[06:23] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: there may be a launchad PPA with a newer package for transmission in 8.04.  If not, then you could eithe rloo for a .deb of it or download and compile a source tarball
[06:24] <snowrichard> hello
[06:24] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes> well...I feel like a dumbass....how do you know all this stuff?
[06:24] <RedSocrates> eggsby: If you type "Xorg -configure" at a commandline, the X server will attempt to configure itself based on what it detects
[06:24] <Canid> Anyone? Anyone? Voodoo economics...
[06:24] <eggsby> hmmmm
[06:24] <eggsby> lemme try
[06:24] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: I've been using ubuntu for a couple years
[06:24] <RedSocrates> eggsby: k.  It should give you an xorg.conf.new file as output
[06:24] <ibuclaw> _fynn, what was the computer doing around the time of the panic?
[06:24] <RedSocrates> eggsby: It will just check things for a second, and then return you to the command line
[06:25] <ibuclaw> sometimes, wireless cards can be a very silent killer.
[06:25] <_fynn> ibuclaw: shutting down
[06:25] <eggsby> says I have too many servers active
[06:25] <eggsby> let me restart and try
[06:25] <Dhraakellian> Canid: like nvidia politics?
[06:25] <RedSocrates> eggsby: k
[06:25] <eggsby> thanks for the help redsocrates
[06:25] <Canid> Is there another help forum where I can ask this?
[06:25] <RedSocrates> eggsby: No prob, and good luck
[06:25] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>ok ...so if i want to download a torrent i just right click on it and choose download with Transmission?
[06:25] <lstarnes> HollywoodJumper: I think so
[06:25] <eggsby> so, just xorg -configure then replace my xorg.conf with the one it generates and retry?
[06:26] <Canid> Not ask about voodoo economics... ask about why I keep getting logged out
[06:26] <eggsby> or try with none first?
[06:26] <RedSocrates> eggsby: "Xorg -configure" with a capital 'X', but try with none first
[06:26] <eggsby> kk :)
[06:26] <HollywoodJumper> lstarnes>thanks
[06:26] <RedSocrates> Canid: What do you mean when you say you're getting logged out?
[06:26] <snowrichard> fsck on my terabyte file system takes a while
[06:27] <Canid> I've just installed 9.04
[06:27] <Canid> Every time I open Add/Remove... under the applications menu, I can use it for a couple minutes and then my session gets logged out
[06:28] <Canid> Before there's time for it to even install something
[06:28] <Qwell> Could somebody confirm I'm not losing my mind?  Easy to reproduce...  Hold 'a', press and hold shift briefly, release shift, wait a second, release 'a'.  Do you get "aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa" or "aaaaaaa"?
[06:28] <Canid> No errors
[06:28] <Canid> It just goes to the login screen
[06:28] <lstarnes> Qwell: the former
[06:28] <Canid> and when I log back in, it's a new session, everything closed, nothing new installed
[06:28] <Qwell> Can I pull the accessibility card on this one?
[06:28] <zutme> What is the best way to get a Free (non Sun?) Java plugin for Firefox?
[06:29] <Canid> I can install from the terminal, so I think it's just the add/remove utillity
[06:29] <Dhraakellian> Qwell: sounds like a certain accessibility feature got activated
[06:29] <Chr|s> I get this error when I followed pidgins steps here http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/  'E:Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa.list (dist parse), E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[06:29] <RedSocrates> Canid: Yeah, it must be.  I don't have any real idea about that issue, I don't use GNOME
[06:29] <Chr|s> I can't run my update manager now
[06:29] <Qwell> Dhraakellian: the latter has been the default in every version of Linux I've ever used. :)
[06:29] <RedSocrates> Canid: You might try looking or posting at ubuntuforums.org
[06:30] <eggsby> RedSocrates, the problem fixed itself when I removed my xorg.conf file
[06:30] <Qwell> which has been...many.  for many years.
[06:30] <Dhraakellian> Qwell: did you hold down shift for a really long time?
[06:30] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Great :)
[06:30] <eggsby> The original issue was that at random intervals my screen would just go black, think that's just a problem with my video card itself?
[06:30] <Qwell> it isn't an accessibility feature.  No such option exists anywhere that I can find.
[06:30] <snowrichard> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4
[06:30] <RedSocrates> eggsby: What exact card is it?  Radeon what?
[06:30] <Qwell> Modifiers should stop repeats.
[06:30] <Canid> I might if I can't get it fixed through chat
[06:30] <eggsby> Thanks a lot for your help, by the way, pretty cool of you  :)
[06:30] <eggsby> Radeon 9200
[06:31] <RedSocrates> eggsby: No problem at all, my pleasure :)
[06:31] <eggsby> Pretty old, doesn't have a fan on it or anything
[06:31] <eggsby> so it might just be overheating or something?
[06:31] <Dhraakellian> Qwell: I was thinking of the AccessX shortcuts and such
[06:31] <Canid> Is there a gnome support room where I can ask about this?
[06:31] <eggsby> Never had the problem on winders though
[06:31] <Qwell> Dhraakellian: If you can find such a feature, I'd be happy to hear about it.
[06:31] <RedSocrates> eggsby: one sec
[06:31] <michael2> maybe the output of dmesg | grep iwl is helpful to solving my wireless woes? i don't know what it means, but it looks bad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164687/
[06:32] <Dhraakellian> Qwell: search systemsetting--right, #ubuntu, not #kubuntu...
[06:32] <Livingroom> i swear to god
[06:32] <Livingroom> something as simple as a friggin soundcard
[06:32] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Were you having these issues on the proprietary ATI driver?
[06:32] <Livingroom> and i cantget itworking.
[06:32] <michael2> Livingroom: I feel your pain
[06:32] <Livingroom> what is ubuntu to me without sound? a waste of 14 gb of partition
[06:32] <eggsby> Like I said, I didn't know what I was using
[06:32] <eggsby> It was just whatever ubuntu defaulted to at install
[06:32] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Oh, I see
[06:33] <]RandoM[> got my soundcard working now :)
[06:33] <lstarnes> Livingroom: what sound card is it?
[06:33] <Qwell> I can easily see this biting a lot of people, in very serious ways...
[06:33] <Livingroom> michael2, feeling my pain does not change the fact that in the year 2009, with a now 15 year old OS, i STILL CANT MAKE STUFF WORK
[06:33] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Well, hard to say what it was, in that case.  I've seen issues reported with the Radeon 9200 though
[06:33] <eggsby> But the proprietary driver doesn't support 9200s from what I was reading
[06:33] <eggsby> which is why I was trying to switch over to the open source
[06:33] <RedSocrates> eggsby: Right, it at least seems pretty iffy.  That's why I asked
[06:33] <Livingroom> why can windows and every other sane OS on the freakin' planet work out of the box, but LINUX cannot?
[06:33] <eggsby> but couldn't quite do it for some reason
[06:33] <Dhraakellian> Qwell: I was thinking sticky keys
[06:34] <Qwell> This isn't sticky keys
[06:34] <Livingroom> this is your wave of the future? this unconfigurable pile of shit that was shat out of the asses of a million developers?
[06:34] <lstarnes> Livingroom: do you know how much work it takes to make a system able to work out of the box?
[06:34] <Livingroom> linux will never overcome windows.
[06:34] <Livingroom> or osx.
[06:34] <Livingroom> or anything else for that matter.
[06:34] <Dhraakellian> (systemsettings > Accessibility > Activation gestures in KDE... no idea about Gnome)
[06:34] <Dhraakellian> Qwell: no idea then
[06:34] <Petrus> Livingroom...why aren't you still using Windows then?
[06:34] <michael2> maybe the output of dmesg | grep iwl is helpful to solving my wireless woes? i don't know what it means, but it looks bad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164687/
[06:34] <Livingroom> lstarnes: i dont give a shit. MS can make it work the first time. why cant linux? linux has infinitely more developers.
[06:35] <Livingroom> petrus: ultimately because i'm infuriated by the direction MS has decided to take with Windows 7
[06:35] <lstarnes> Livingroom: depending on the sound card it may just need a single kernel module to be loaded
[06:35] <Dhraakellian> Livingroom: I think it has successfully overcome freebsd
[06:35] <Petrus> Livingroom...you're not going to like Linux, something tells me. ;)
[06:35]  * mzz shrugs, my onboard sound works out of the box in ubuntu, not in windows 2000
[06:35] <Livingroom> lstarnes: everythings loaded. it detects the card, it has the modules, it's all set up. but it doesnt work. says it cant connect. i still get PC speaker beeps for everything
[06:35] <Dhraakellian> but, of course, as netcraft confirms, BSD is dying </off-topic>
[06:36] <Livingroom> petrus: i started using linux when redhat 5.2 came out. console only it's fine; its great; i love it; but for desktop use, it is maddeningly infuriating.
[06:36] <michael2> Livingroom: Computers are built around windows, not linux. every computer is somewhat different. it takes a little time to get it all right.
[06:36] <Qwell> Livingroom: Linux isn't for everyone.  Some people can read, others can't.  It's no big deal.
[06:36] <Petrus> Livingroom...that is an issue which is older than Linux itself.
[06:36] <Livingroom> qwell: oh! so accuse me of not reading now, without even asking how many message boards i've checked through. typical! go back to your hole, you worthless pile of flesh
[06:36] <Qwell> Livingroom: I didn't say any such thing.
[06:37] <andrea> hello
[06:37] <Petrus> also...the majority of UNIX users in general would tell you that the GUI scenario you're used to is actually vastly inferior anywayz
[06:37] <Petrus> which if you spend an appreciable amount of time on the console, you'll learn on your own.
[06:37] <Livingroom> michael2: being built around windows doesnt change the fact that despite everything being installed correctly, it fails to make sound come through my speakers. ubuntu knows what sound card i have. it installed the correct driver. it set up alsa for me. but it /doesnt work/
[06:37] <Petrus> but to address your specific frustration here...\
[06:37] <felixsulla> If i have two ubuntu boxes, one has a shared printer, how do I find the printer on the other machine?
[06:37] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: You do realize that the vast majority of hardware manufacturers do not want open source code drivers associated with their products, and so do not work with Linux developers as they do with developers for closed-source products?
[06:37] <Petrus> ALSA on Ubuntu is a pain in the neck
[06:38] <Petrus> on that point I actually agree with you
[06:38] <lstarnes> Petrus: s/on ubuntu//
[06:38] <mzz> mmm, I want to blame pulse instead of alsa
[06:38] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: In Linux, people have to come up with the stuff a lot of the time by reverse engineering, guess-and-check, shear expertise, etc.
[06:38] <Qwell> s/alsa/pulse/
[06:38] <Qwell> mzz: yeah...
[06:38] <mzz> I'm still unconvinced pulse currently adds anything but an extra possibly failing layer for the majority of users
[06:38] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Do you want to try to get this working, or are you leaving Ubuntu?
[06:39] <Livingroom> redsocrates: that is neither here nor there. it is not my problem. this is a common soundcard that i have, which ubuntu detected and set up. yet it does not work. why is this? because it is too decentralized. there is no control or standardization. why do i have OSS, ALSA, and PulseAudio as sound delivery apps? why dont i have a standardized platform for making sounds? it's just AUDIO for christs sake
[06:39] <Qwell> mzz: it doesn't add anything the various other "sound managers" didn't
[06:39] <Qwell> arts, esd, etc
[06:39] <Livingroom> redsocrates: i've been trying to make this work for days. i'm not leaving ubuntu, because i want a stable linux desktop. but i'm very fed up with it not working.
[06:39] <mzz> Qwell: I didn't use any of those either (alsa (with dmix) suffices for my needs, afaict)
[06:40] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: First, you made claims about Linux, not Ubuntu.  Linux does not install OSS, ALSA, and PulseAudio.  Second, while it is not "your problem," it does answer the questions you asked.  I assumed you actually wanted them answered.
[06:40] <Qwell> mzz: indeed it does.  and dmix is "part" of alsa these days
[06:40] <mzz> and the whole app -> libalsa -> pulse plugin for alsa -> pulsed -> libalsa -> hardware dance is just horribly confusing
[06:40] <zetheroo> I installed Kubuntu Jaunty on a machine that was running Ubuntu Hardy and now GRUB is reading the menu.lst file from Kubuntu instead of from Ubuntu ... how do I revert that?
[06:40] <snowrichard> fsck on terabyte finally finished
[06:41]  * Petrus remembers a time on Slackware at least where you compiled ALSA support for your hardware into the kernel, installed a specific dotfile in your home directory, set /dev/dsp 0666, and it worked.
[06:41] <michael2> can anyone tell me what the output of dmesg | grep iwl means? my wireless doesn't work   http://paste.ubuntu.com/164687/
[06:41] <Livingroom> redsocrates: as a prospective user of a desktop OS, should i care that hardware people dont want to work with linux/ubuntu? no: i should care only to install, run some basic configuration, maybe even be asked what soundcard i have- and then have it work, out of the box. there is, again, absoloutely NO reason for it not to "JUST WORK"
[06:41] <Qwell> Petrus: I remember when Slackware used to come with pam
[06:41] <mzz> Petrus: no /dev/dsp here, who needs oss anyway these days. But yeah, roughly that.
[06:41] <Qwell> ahh, 2008.  good year. :P
[06:41] <Petrus> Livingroom tantrums are not endearing. ;)
[06:42] <mzz> Petrus: oh, only without the dotfile (dmix is on by default if the hardware doesn't mix)
[06:42] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: I just gave you the reason why it likely doesn't work.  Second, you were asking questions about why Windows could sometimes get things to just work, but Linux couldn't.  I answered that question.  If you didn't want the answer and really just wanted to complain, why'd you ask?
[06:42] <Livingroom> petrus: i'm certain they're not, but in the absence of support, what am i to do? i've tried everything on all the forums. i will provide links if you so desire as to what i tried. and none of it works
[06:42] <Qwell> Livingroom: There are companies that provide support.
[06:42] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: What sound card are you using?  What does it display in lspci?
[06:42] <zetheroo> ﻿michael2: strange as it is an Intel card ...
[06:43] <zetheroo> ﻿I installed Kubuntu Jaunty on a machine that was running Ubuntu Hardy and now GRUB is reading the menu.lst file from Kubuntu instead of from Ubuntu ... how do I revert that?
[06:43] <Livingroom> redsocrates: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[06:43] <chetnick> zetheroo: you still have Hardy?
[06:43] <Qwell> zetheroo: Did you use the same /boot partition?
[06:43] <Petrus> Livingroom...the ops aren't going to like me for this, but I suggest another distribution, as I did so privately.  Truthfully, that's becoming my own answer to just about any Ubuntu related question these days...Use something else. ;)  Ubuntu is McLinux.
[06:43] <zetheroo> ﻿Qwell: they are both installed on the same HDD
[06:44] <chetnick> sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[06:44] <zetheroo> ﻿chetnick: many do ... its a LTS after all :)
[06:44] <Livingroom> *sigh*
[06:44] <aspidites> geez this place is always full
[06:44] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Do you have the latest alsa installed?
[06:45] <Livingroom> should i upgrade to 9.04? will that redetect sound or simply replace whats there with newer versions?
[06:45] <Petrus> aspidites...that's because people are always having problems. ;)
[06:45] <Dhraakellian> this place is bigger than #gentoo was, back when I used to lurk in there
[06:45] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Have you tried this?   Allegedly people got it working by adding the lines at this link to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6929242
[06:46] <aspidites> Petrus: lol. i dunno why i'm here actually. i don't even use ubuntu. i guess i'm just lonely :(
[06:46] <Livingroom> redsocrates: i have alsa-base version 1.0.17
[06:47] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Have you tried what's in that post?
[06:47] <Livingroom> have not seen that post
[06:47] <Petrus> aspidites...I'm here because I initially had a problem, but also because, altho 3 weeks ago I was open minded towards Ubuntu, after the amount of problems I've had since then, I've now developed an attitude similar to that of Erin Brockovich...I'm on a mission from God to attempt to ensure that nobody else has to experience a similar level of pain and suffering again. ;)
[06:48] <RedSocrates> Livingroom:  See my above comment for the link.  I found it via this page, which has people saying it works for exactly your card: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-898737.html
[06:48] <aspidites> did i kill the room?
[06:48] <sk8ingdom> join #aero
[06:48] <RedSocrates> Petrus: What do you use now?
[06:49] <Livingroom> redsocrates: i put that in the file. going to reboot now
[06:49] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Okay, good luck.
[06:50] <shadeslayer> anyone expereincing low vloume recording?
[06:50] <aspidites> Petrus: very noble of you. I moved to archlinux and haven't had any real problems since. any issues i had were gneral hardware issues, not distro related
[06:51] <RedSocrates> aspidites: I'm also on Arch
[06:51] <michael2> my wireless doesn't work. lshw says network UNCLAIMED, even though it's an intel 3945 card, whose driver comes pre-installed. dmesg | grep iwl is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164687/ can someone point me in the right direction?
[06:51] <aspidites> RedSocrates: its the only distro that has made me stop distro hoping. on the opposite side of the spectrum, gentoo is the only one that made me want to commit suicide
[06:52] <aspidites> i wanted so much to like gentoo too.
[06:52] <RedSocrates> Here to try to help out, though, as I figure this is the way most new Linux users come in
[06:52] <raylu> aspidites: interesting. i'm using ubuntu and gentoo on two machines
[06:52] <Petrus> asp I'm on Ubuntu atm...ArchLinux is where I'm planning to move to myself next...and as I said, I'm in here trying to impersonate the Pied Piper. ;)
[06:53] <Livingroom> ok so
[06:53] <Livingroom> let me just be the first to say
[06:53] <Livingroom> holy
[06:53] <aspidites> raylu: some people have better luck than others, i guess. also, it could be that when i tried gentoo the iwlwifi drivers weren't stable yet. try installing source-based packages without an internet connection (didn't have access to ethernet at the time)
[06:53] <Livingroom> fucking
[06:53] <Livingroom> shit
[06:53] <FloodBot2> Livingroom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <Igraine> hello, I have a problem with x-chat gnome. When I enter a channel there is a log of conversations loaded even though I have disabled logging in the settings. Is there any way to stop these logs?
[06:53] <RedSocrates> Livingroom:  it works?
[06:53] <aspidites> raylu: that, and the current nvidia drivers weren't working out for me
[06:54] <Livingroom> redsocrates: it does, but very very quiet. unsanely quiet
[06:54] <Tux> anyone know whats wrong with this? =IF(K3>0; E3-K3; 0) in open office it shows error: in bracketing
[06:54] <aspidites> but anyways, i didn't come here to distro bash. to each there own
[06:54] <wWing> request some hints for ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix Dual boot XP + ubuntu :(
[06:54] <shadeslayer> Livingroom: everything set to high in alsa mixer?
[06:54] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Great, that's some progress. :) Try typing "alsamixer" at the command line and checking the volume levels
[06:54] <Petrus> RedSocrates yes, exactly the point...Ubuntu is the point of entry...as soon as they make it here, we must form the equivalent of a FEMA aid station, and redirect the poor souls from Ubuntu to another, still more genuinely viable Linux distro. ;)
[06:54] <Livingroom> redsocrates: with the volume all the way up i can hear my mp3 play, about as loud as if a housefly had his ipod earbuds turned all the way up
[06:54] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Also, I've discovered that apparently this is a bug with your card, see here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/362683
[06:55] <RedSocrates> Petrus: I don't do any redirecting, I just do damage control... For now anyway :)
[06:55] <aspidites> Tux: looks fine. does open office care about trailing whitespace?
[06:55] <Tux> aspidites, i did with and without...
[06:56] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Are you using a Dell Slim or some other computer?
[06:56] <Livingroom> redsocrates: vostro 220
[06:56] <Kartagis> hello
[06:56] <aspidites> Tux: hmm, been i while since i messed with any spreadsheets. you're sure semicolon is the proper delimeter, right? (sorry, i just have to ask)
[06:57] <Livingroom> redsocrates: also, the volume is all the way up in alsamixer
[06:57] <Tux> yea... all the examples show ;
[06:57] <Tux> and repeatedly mention it..
[06:57] <TheShahFactor> what is the linux equivalent of Daemon tools?
[06:57] <MartyMacFly> TheShahFactor: mount?
[06:57] <Kartagis> ubuntu starts with a screen resolution of 800x600 for me. any ideas how I can make it 1024x768?
[06:57] <Surlent777> hi, is anyone here knowledgeable about the TTY environment and framebuffer?
[06:57] <aspidites> TheShahFactor: the mount command?
[06:58] <ata> hello?
[06:58] <TheShahFactor> ah yes thanks :P
[06:58] <Livingroom> kartagis: go to system> preferences> screen resoloution
[06:58] <aspidites> TheShahFactor: what part of daemon function of daemon tools are you trying to duplicate?
[06:58] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Well, the line I gave you that you inserted into /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base has "model=6stack-dell".  You can apparently set that to "model=auto".  Perhaps that's part of the issue, I don't know
[06:58] <Petrus> RedSocrates, one of the things I do show people is this (http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/09/13/1915250.shtml) which is something I wrote a few years ago which has apparently helped some other people...step 1 is irrelevant now, since they can use Ubuntu...I just put that in at the time...
[06:58] <Kartagis> Livingroom, 9.04 doesn't have that
[06:58] <TheShahFactor> i just want to mount an ISO
[06:58] <Petrus> but I tell them to do from step 2 down
[06:58] <Livingroom> kartagis: oh
[06:59] <Livingroom> kartagis: what about a right click on the desktop?
[06:59] <aspidites> TheShahFactor: yeah, the mount command with loop
[06:59] <Livingroom> redsocrates: should i try that?
[06:59] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Probably worth a shot.  You can just change it back if it affects things negatively
[06:59] <Livingroom> redsocrates: also, btw, thanks for the help- one thing you guys probably dont receive is enough "thanks" - especially since i've been somewhat of an ass tonight
[06:59] <aspidites> TheShahFactor: mount -o loop some_file.iso /mnt
[07:00] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: You're welcome, and no problem.  Glad we're making at least some progress
[07:00] <shadeslayer> !iso | TheShahFactor
[07:00] <Kartagis> Livingroom, not there
[07:00] <TheShahFactor> gotcha fellas! thanks
[07:00] <Surlent777> aspidites: Is that how that works? I've mounted it to /media/iso and /media/cdrom0 before
[07:00] <RedSocrates> Petrus: Is your stuff in the comment thread?
[07:00] <aspidites> Surlent777: yeah, you can use any mount point
[07:00] <Petrus> Red...yes
[07:00] <Petrus> the first post of that comment
[07:00] <aspidites> Surlent777: i just use /mnt because it's there and convenient :)
[07:00] <RedSocrates> Nice
[07:01] <Livingroom> redsocrates: i must go to bed now. thank you again, and have a good night
[07:01] <Surlent777> aspidites: I never thought to do that. I guess it makes sense now that I think about it
[07:01] <shadeslayer> TheShahFactor: also in jaunty the ISO mounts when you double click on the iso
[07:01] <Petrus> :)
[07:01] <RedSocrates> Livingroom: Thanks, you too
[07:01] <aspidites> Surlent777: ;-)
[07:01] <aspidites> anyone else here using a tiled window manager?
[07:01] <raylu> aspidites: ah. those might have been problems but i'm running it on a headless machine without sound, graphics, or wireless support :P
[07:01] <Surlent777> so, is anyone here knowledgeable about the TTY environment and framebuffer?
[07:01] <RedSocrates> Petrus: I like the strategy you suggest.  Total immersion :)
[07:01] <TheShahFactor> thats cool shadeslayer ;)
[07:01] <raylu> aspidites: and i use xmonad :D
[07:01] <kenyon> aspidites: xmonad here.
[07:02] <Petrus> RedSocrates...it's the only real way with a UNIX, IMHO. :)
[07:02] <RedSocrates> Petrus: Yep, probably right
[07:02] <aspidites> raylu: xmonad was sexy, but i just can't get a hang of haskell. the whole functional programming thing is far over my head. i'll stick to python/ruby/c++, thanks
[07:02] <Surlent777> aspidites: I use GNOME, KDE, LXDE, Fluxbox, and even UDE on occasion...I jump around at whim
[07:02] <aspidites> i'm using musca myseelf
[07:02] <RedSocrates> real hax0rs use twm ;D
[07:02] <Surlent777> heh
[07:02] <Petrus> Red...the other thing is, if it is done in a stepped manner like that, people actually find that it is not really that difficult at all
[07:03] <raylu> aspidites: ah. but i have a friend who knows a bit and another who uses it, so we help each other with configs
[07:03] <Surlent777> *real* hax0rs use a TTY
[07:03] <Petrus> Linux is only hard when you have no context
[07:03] <Petrus> which is why that is the first thing newbies need to be given
[07:03] <anom01y> hey guys I am running ubuntu with an nvidia 8800, and when I try to install the drivers, my display gets changed to 640 x 480
[07:03] <RedSocrates> Petrus: I agree with that.  That was basically my experience.  Though it was hard, immersed myself, eventually realized it ain't all that bad :)
[07:03] <anom01y> I did an update prior to installing
[07:03] <aspidites> Surlent777: haven't tried the 2.26 of gnome yet. kde 4.2 is far better than any other in the 4.x series, fluxbox...pfft, real hax0rs use open box. ude...oh god
[07:03] <Guest71437> does anyone know how to make a script read txt from a file and pass it as an argument for instance \home\user\file.exe -filewithtxtinit
[07:03] <aspidites> raylu: lucky
[07:03]  * mzz prefers ratpoison over a tty
[07:04] <aspidites> j/k about the fluxbox comment btw
[07:04] <Surlent777> aspidites: UDE was interesting...and painful
[07:04] <martha_> ok how can I tell if ubuntu can use my modem (dialup), and I know about soft modems, but read about it many years ago and I believe there has been some progress since
[07:04] <shadeslayer> anom01y: you could try editing the xorg.conf as a last resort
[07:04] <shadeslayer> !dialup > martha_
[07:04] <raylu> Guest71437: /home/user/file -`filewithtxtinit`
[07:04] <aspidites> Surlent777: emphasis on painful...i was using wmii-ruby before musca. i liked it, but it's essentially a dead project
[07:04] <aspidites> no stable release in like 3 years
[07:04] <Guest71437> raylu, wouldnt you ahve to pass the directory that its in too?
[07:04] <ra100> Hi all.
[07:04] <ra100> I have problem.
[07:04] <ra100> I need to disable antialising and to change fonts for kde4/qt4 apps in 9.04. I have installed systemsettings package and when i launch it, i can see only icons and emoticons in appearance. Settings for fonts aren´t available.
[07:04] <ra100> It seems like a bug, or feature?
[07:04] <ra100> So, is any way how can i disable antialising/subpixelhinting and how to change fonts?
[07:04] <FloodBot2> ra100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <KB1JWQ> Petrus: Interesting link
[07:04] <aspidites> only hg
[07:05] <Surlent777> aspidites: I find it amusing to use obscure and difficult crap just because
[07:05] <raylu> Guest71437: unless you were in the directory
[07:05] <Petrus> RedSocrates well, for me it probably *was* really that bad...configuring X Windows from scratch on Slackware in the mid 90s was a weekend long recipe for a literal migraine headache...not to mention having to compile half-binary winmodem drivers for a dialup connection, when said drivers barely worked anywayz.
[07:05] <shadeslayer> !enter | ra100
[07:05] <qcjn> hi, can't uninstall mpd, made a little mess. Tried sudo apt-get remove --purge mpd && sudo apt-get autoremove. But there's left over !!
[07:05] <aspidites> ra100: IIRC there is a wiki entry on this at ubuntu. ask around and i'm sure somone can point you to it
[07:06] <RedSocrates> Petrus: Heh, I tinkered around with Linux some back in those days too, actually.  But back then I gave up.  Didn't come back until 2005ish, probably.
[07:06] <aspidites> Surlent777: i can identify that. but now i'm stuck on tiling window managers...i can't use a stacked windows manager to save my life
[07:06] <aspidites> i try, then immediately revert to a tiling derivative after like 10 minutes
[07:06] <Surlent777> aspidites: hahahaha I don't like the idea of a tiled myself
[07:07] <mzz> aspidites: heh, I last longer than 10 minutes, but yeah
[07:07] <aspidites> Surlent777: i can always hotswap to floating if needed. not so easy the other way around. unless you use poor man's tiling manager
[07:07] <RedSocrates> You guys who use tiled window managers, do you manage to stick mostly to the keyboard, or do you end up still using the mouse?
[07:07] <mzz> RedSocrates: ratpoison here currently, which I couldn't control with the mouse even if I wanted to
[07:07] <aspidites> RedSocrates: the only time i touch a mouse is if i'm gaming, or using gimp, firefox, or designer
[07:08] <Surlent777> Hey, that reminds me, has anyone else noticed that the "new" screen is total crap when it comes to scrolling up? (Shift+PgUp)
[07:08] <mzz> RedSocrates: tends to be mainly keyboard in the others I've used too, except for occasional mouse-based resizing
[07:08] <RedSocrates> mzz: Ah, nice.  I've been scared away from ratpoison, though, by other peoples' reactions to mention of it :)
[07:08] <mzz> RedSocrates: ratpoison's very simple. A bit too simple for some, probably. Also, I can imagine hating the lack of focus-follows-mouse.
[07:08] <aspidites> i'd use vimperator, but it just doesn't feel right to me
[07:08] <Guest71437> raylu, hmmm doesnt appear to be working, if i add +connect 192.168.0.2 to the end of the script it works, if i add 'ipport' to the end of the script while ipport has that txt in it, it doesnt work
[07:08] <RedSocrates> I like vimperator all right
[07:08] <aspidites> mzz: i disabled focus follows mouse after switching to musca
[07:09] <RedSocrates> mzz: Maybe I'll convince myself to check it out :)
[07:09] <Igraine> anyone who knows how to stop x-chat gnome from loading logs in the channels?
[07:09]  * aspidites uses weechat-curses
[07:09] <mzz> aspidites: I came across that one, forgot why I didn't try it yet
[07:09] <Petrus> RedSoc...I've heard ratpoison is ok, but if you want to go that route, I just go for screen in an Eterm, myself
[07:10] <aspidites> mzz: kinda like irssi but with the user list showing
[07:10] <RedSocrates> Petrus: I don't really have much experience with screen, still trying to really figure out its power
[07:10] <Pupeno> Is it possible that some server is not respecting the MX records of my domain and instead of contacting the MX is contacting the server directly to send an email?
[07:10] <mzz> aspidites: meant musca, not weechat-curses
[07:10] <raylu> Guest71437: `, not '
[07:10] <Petrus> RedSocrates, same...it seems pretty cool tho
[07:10] <Surlent777> aspidites: irssi can have a user list...just get the script, and use screen
[07:10] <raylu> Guest71437: wait, no
[07:10] <raylu> Guest71437: `cat ipport`
[07:10] <RedSocrates> Igraine: Look in Settings --> Preferences, there should be a "Logging" item in the list on the left side
[07:10] <raylu> Guest71437: just `ipport` is insufficient
[07:10] <Guest71437> raylu, k il give that a try
[07:11] <aspidites> mzz: ooh. its seeeexy. Beware though ,there's no automatic tiling by default, but I've managed to make it react similarly to wmii. has far more layout options than any other I've used
[07:11] <mzz> aspidites: remember I'm coming from ratpoison, not dwm/wmii
[07:11] <aspidites> Surlent777: I know. I just didn't want ot have to get a script for something i thought was fundamental. I suppose using arch i shouldn't be so lazy
[07:11] <Surlent777> no kidding
[07:11] <aspidites> mzz: aah, right. i don't remember much about ratpoison.
[07:11] <Surlent777> and considering it's a TTY client
[07:12] <shadeslayer> how do you add facebok chat in empathy or pidgin?
[07:12] <Surlent777> what did you expect?
[07:12] <Surlent777> shadeslayer: open Synaptic and type pidgin. It'll show up
[07:12] <RedSocrates> Which one of these tiled wms is the easiest to configure?   I don't want to learn Haskell just to configure my wm, for example
[07:12] <aspidites> Surlent777: weechat-curses is too
[07:12] <mzz> aspidites: it's *really* simple (really just screen for X (with both horizontal and vertical splits but no builtin workspaces for example))
[07:12] <aspidites> Surlent777: at least i'm not using xchat/mirc ;-)
[07:12] <Surlent777> aspidites: amen
[07:13] <Igraine> RedSocrates, there is no logging in the menu on the left
[07:13] <Guest71437> raylu, cool thanks that takes care of part of the problem :)
[07:13] <aspidites> mzz: ah. never got into screen either. didn't seem neccessary after switchign to tiling windows managers
[07:13] <Mylisto> does anyone know if you can use yahoo chat rooms in pidgin?
[07:13] <Surlent777> aspidites: Can't beat irssi for spamming potential =P
[07:13] <RedSocrates> Igraine: it should be an option under "Chatting"
[07:13] <mzz> RedSocrates: dwm can't be configured, does that count?
[07:13] <aspidites> Mylisto: yes you can
[07:13] <Mylisto> how?
[07:13] <dronix> ubuntu ftw!!
[07:13] <RedSocrates> mzz: Sure, less work :)
[07:13] <raylu> Guest71437: the other part?
[07:13] <aspidites> Mylisto: hmm..don't remember. lemme look
[07:13] <keoni> i got a question, say you have a running process writing to a log file over nfs, the nfs server dies, and the program needs to rite to the log file agian. what happens? does the program or os decide what to do?
[07:14] <Mylisto> haha
[07:14] <Mylisto> found it
[07:14] <aspidites> Mylisto: yeah. buddies > join chat
[07:14] <Guest71437> raylu, Im going to need something to write the ip and the port in this format ip:port to that file. but its in an xml document
[07:14] <Mylisto> thanks
[07:14] <mzz> keoni: depends on how it's mounted. It'll either hang or fail
[07:14] <aspidites> what ever happened to the try first, ask questions later policy?
[07:14] <Surlent777> so, no tty/fb gurus tonight then =/
[07:14] <RedSocrates> aspidites: I don't think that policy exists here
[07:14] <raylu> Guest71437: then this isn't part of the solution
[07:14] <Guest71437> raylu, well actually let me ask you this first
[07:15] <raylu> Guest71437: what you want is a script that parses the xml document and runs that command itself
[07:15] <RedSocrates> Unfortunately
[07:15] <keoni> to pretty much data loss, there is no queue type thing?
[07:15] <aspidites> RedSocrates: lol. apparently not. welcome to linux newbie world aka ex-windows please hold my hand-type user
[07:15] <keoni> so rather
[07:15] <RedSocrates> aspidites: Yeah, it can be that way :)
[07:15] <mzz> keoni: man 5 nfs, look for the "soft" and "hard" mount options, iirc
[07:15] <TheShahFactor> There is this Open Source Text to Speech system I am trying to install (http://mary.dfki.de/Download) When I try to run it in the terminal;I get a freezed window I cannot click on the ok or cancel button in the Window.It is based in Java.Any one know why this is happening?
[07:15] <Guest71437> raylu, well the problem is i have this script that launches the program right? but it needs to add the argument +connect ip:port after the script if i run the script like ./scriptname +connect ip:port that wont work, for some reason it has to be in the file itself
[07:16] <Surlent777> no one really held my hand...I just plowed through it, even accidentally formating my HD trying to install 6.06...I just went through and taught myself, mostly
[07:16] <Guest71437> raylu, do you know why that might be?
[07:16] <aspidites> at least linux responses don't begin with "are you drivers updated?" or "did you try restarting your computer?"
[07:16] <mzz> keoni: when I said "hang" I meant "retry indefinitely". I don't know if that means it'll eventually succeed if the server comes back up.
[07:16] <Petrus> Surlent777, that is the only real way to learn
[07:16] <aspidites> Surlent777: same here. i didn't even start using irc again until i was a gury
[07:16] <Surlent777> Petrus: I agree. I hate it when people try and make it idiot-friendly, etc.
[07:16] <keoni> ah
[07:16] <raylu> Guest71437: er, i don't understand
[07:16] <keoni> i guess ill go poke around and find out
[07:16] <aspidites> well..well aquainted with linux, not a guru
[07:17] <Surlent777> (see, for instance, the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace changes)
[07:17] <Guest71437> raylu, alright so lets say you have a script and it is name beans right?
[07:17] <RedSocrates> Surlent777: Worst change EVAR
[07:17] <Surlent777> YES
[07:17] <mzz> keoni: it'll probably survive temporary network loss, but I don't know if it'll survive a server restart
[07:17] <Igraine> RedSocrates, I dont even have a 'chatting'...
[07:17] <Guest71437> raylu, so lets say you need to pass an argument to that script and the argument is +connect ip:port
[07:17] <Petrus> Surlent777, Ubuntu's ease is extremely superficial...this channel's volume is itself a testament to how truly, horrifyingly broken it is in technical terms.
[07:17] <Surlent777> heh, point
[07:17] <Guest71437> raylu, if INSIDE the script you add +connect ip:port to the end of the file, it will work
[07:17] <RedSocrates> Igraine: How did you install Xchat?  Are you using regular xchat or the xchat that comes in the xchat-gnome package?
[07:17] <aspidites> Petrus: amen to THAT.
[07:18] <mzz> I'm appaprently strange, I don't mind that ctrl+alt+backspace change because I actually hit that accidentally once or twice
[07:18] <Guest71437> raylu, but if you do ./beans +connect ip:port that wont work
[07:18] <mzz> will take a little getting used to.
[07:18] <kenyon> mzz, keoni: I've had nfs mounts survive server restart like that.
[07:18] <a> how is ubutu broken
[07:18] <aspidites> I find arch and other "bare bones" distros far simpler for the fact that nothing is hidden from the user
[07:18] <Igraine> RedSocrates, its x-chat gnome 0.26.1
[07:18] <raylu> Guest71437: er, that's more of an issue with the script itself
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> a: every OS sucks
[07:18] <Surlent777> mzz: how could you manage to hit that? It's already intuitive that you don't hit Ctrl+Alt unless you're doing something important or death-defying, at least for me
[07:18] <mzz> keoni: definitely take kenyon's word for it, I haven't touched nfs in ages
[07:18] <a> ubuntu is perfect
[07:18] <raylu> Guest71437: different scripting languages have different ways of handling arguments
[07:18] <RedSocrates> Igraine: Ah, yeah, sorry; that one is set up differently, not sure
[07:18] <aspidites> ActionParsnip: linux just sucks less
[07:18] <Surlent777> aspidites: so, not a big GNOME fan, then, I take it?
[07:18] <Guest71437> raylu, here http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3262671&forum_id=474406
[07:19] <Guest71437> raylu, that is a post i made on it
[07:19] <chetnick> can you restore grub from working mounted system? Or it has to be from live CD?
[07:19] <Igraine> RedSocrates, ok thanks anyway :)
[07:19] <Surlent777> I really wish I could remember how to make it hide this /join-spamming
[07:19] <Guest71437> raylu, actually this one might be better http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7214683#post7214683
[07:19] <aspidites> Surlent777: um...no. i like it better than kde 3 series.
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> aspidites: in some cases yes, in others no, not less,just differently
[07:19] <Crshman> anyone know of a good digital rendering app for linux?
[07:19] <mzz> Surlent777: at least once I got my brain and/or fingers crossed going for alt+backspace (delete word backwards) and ctrl+something (some emacs-style movement command) at the same time
[07:19] <RedSocrates> Igraine: No prob, good luck with it :)
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: its a plugin in pidgin ;)
[07:19] <aspidites> ActionParsnip: yeah, lets not mention wifi support, games, or even video chat
[07:19] <Guest71437> raylu, so you see that part that says <connect> and ip:port that is what it should be adding to the end of the script
[07:20] <raylu> Guest71437: anyway, i need to go now; sorry
[07:20] <Guest71437> raylu, ok no problem
[07:20] <mzz> Surlent777: and emacs has a bunch of ctrl+alt+letter bindings that aren't scary (not that frequently used, but not scary)
[07:20] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: the heck with pidgey, I'm using irssi
[07:20] <aspidites> i meant sucks less as a general reference. the os taken as a whole. for me, the statement is true.
[07:20] <raylu> Surlent777: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: then i have no idea
[07:20] <Surlent777> mzz: emacs scares me a bit; I prefer vi
[07:20] <Surlent777> raylu: thanks
[07:20] <aspidites> Surlent777: same here. vim actually
[07:20] <mzz> Surlent777: vi's fine and takes a different approach to key bindings
[07:20] <mzz> well, vim, yeah
[07:21] <aspidites> emacs made my wrists hurt
[07:21] <Surlent777> aspidites: I'm not sure of the differences, but whatever the heck came with this is what I use
[07:21] <Surlent777> (re: vi/vim)
[07:21] <raylu> aspidites: emacs users commonly bind ctrl to capslock
[07:21] <aspidites> that and lisp scares the crap out of me
[07:21] <aspidites> raylu: lol. i do that for vi/m too.
[07:22] <aspidites> raylu: to be fair, only recently though
[07:22] <mzz> yeah, you need a nicely accessible ctrl keyi
[07:22] <Surlent777> I love vim's simplicity...and it makes you look awesome to a novice to use it =P
[07:22] <raylu> aspidites: hrm? vim users more commonly bind esc to capslock
[07:22] <mzz> key, even. I wonder how many vim users rebind esc to the key to the left of 1 or something
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: nano here
[07:22] <Petrus> vim = vi with creature comforts, pretty much...from what I've read at least.
[07:22] <aspidites> raylu: nah, i use capslock + ] for my escape
[07:22] <Surlent777> ooh, nano's nice. Reminds me of MS-EDIT
[07:22] <aspidites> er capslock + [
[07:22] <sireromano> !!!
[07:23] <sireromano> OI
[07:23] <sireromano> !!!
[07:23] <Surlent777> is it a spider?
[07:23] <Surlent777> or maybe a tractor?
[07:23] <Surlent777> some sort of chip?
[07:23] <aspidites> raylu: plus, ctrl is needed for buffer management and a lot of other ide functions i use
[07:23] <AnActivist> hello everyone, I accidentally turned of my removable cd drive while I was boot from a live cd now it seems like when I reboot normally it takes longer, is there any way for me to check if I have caused any memory damage?
[07:23] <sireromano> happy fifth day of the month
[07:24] <shadeslayer> sireromano: ><
[07:24] <Surlent777> AnActivist: Run memtest86+ from GRUB
[07:24] <AnActivist> what if I am using Lilo?
[07:24] <Surlent777> AnActivist: Press Esc when you see the message about GRUB during bootup
[07:24] <Surlent777> well then you're in trouble
[07:24] <mzz> AnActivist: iirc the livecd has memtest too
[07:24] <Surlent777> cause I have no idea how to use that
[07:24] <sireromano> what is that?
[07:24] <Surlent777> LInux LOader
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> AnActivist: i believe memtest is in lilo too
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> !info lilo
[07:25] <AnActivist> ActionParsnip, ok cool thank you I will try
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> AnActivist: or boot live cd, its tere too
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> dang
[07:25] <aspidites> i didn't know anyone still used lilo
[07:25] <aspidites> has anyone played with grub2?
[07:25] <Surlent777> there's a grub2?
[07:26] <Surlent777> that reminds me...GRUB themes...anyone use them?
[07:26] <shadeslayer> Surlent777: yes
[07:26] <Surlent777> I've been a bit scared to try them, but I think I might, just for kicks
[07:26] <Surlent777> after I figure out my weird framebuffer issue here
[07:26] <Surlent777> (priorities)
[07:26] <raylu> aspidites: yup. no documentation.
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> grub works fine, what else do you need from grub besides kickup linux?
[07:27] <aspidites> i've been putting off using it because nothing else about my setup is "shiny". no spash screens, no login manaagers, no pizaz what so ever
[07:27] <raylu> aspidites: in development for 4 years, got it working, can't configure it because there's no damn documentation
[07:27] <Surlent777> Kickup XP (video games)
[07:27] <shadeslayer> Surlent777: theyre boring after you use them for 10 boots
[07:27] <rumpel2> impressive bootscreen :)
[07:27] <Surlent777> heh
[07:27] <sireromano> http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2onq.png
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> oh jeez, i havent seen my grub in tiiiiiiime
[07:27] <aspidites> raylu: gotta love open source projects huh?
[07:27] <raylu> ActionParsnip: splashimages with more than 14 colors, 640x480
[07:28] <aspidites> i've been meaning to play with fast-init, but i haven't gotten around to it
[07:28] <mzz> my grub has a timeout of 1 second, not like I need a splash screen there :)
[07:28] <aspidites> the only boot option i've changed is the resolution of my tty
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> raylu: i dont even use a bootsplash, i watch the boot messaes
[07:28] <aspidites> mzz: that reminds me. i need to reduce my timeout
[07:28] <shadeslayer> aspidites: how?? can i set it to 1440X900 ?
[07:28] <aspidites> shadeslayer: lemme look. that's what i have
[07:29] <mzz> 1440x900 isn't a vesa res, right?
[07:29] <raylu> ActionParsnip: no, before that
[07:29] <raylu> ActionParsnip: the image behind the selection menu
[07:29] <shadeslayer> aspidites: got the wiki btw
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> raylu: saves hdd space and why is it so important when its on the screen for suc a short length of time that you'd put time into changing it
[07:29] <mzz> oh, and I have an option in gdm to boot into windows once
[07:29] <shadeslayer> mzz: um dunno
[07:29] <aspidites> shadeslayer: vga=864. and you have to change a blacklist option somewhere
[07:30] <raylu> ActionParsnip: because it's on my system, so i want it to look nice
[07:30]  * mzz pets grub-set-default
[07:30] <shadeslayer> what about
[07:30] <aspidites> shadeslayer: lemme look. i know i aint using mesa, lol
[07:30] <shadeslayer> !tty | aspidites
[07:30] <Surlent777> I've set it to use the framebuffer, and it asks me for my resolution (I go with 800x600 usually), but when I run programs like ZSNES, or try and view images in w3m, which I could do in 8.10, it redirects it to my open X session...
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> raylu: true, i think its completely pointless
[07:31] <aspidites> shadeslayer: thats not it
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> raylu: i bet you use compiz too
[07:31] <shadeslayer> aspidites: then?
[07:31] <shadeslayer> aspidites: i cant see my rez there :P
[07:31] <tauro> ayuda para instalar programas en xubuntu
[07:31] <tauro> soy nuevo
[07:31] <Surlent777> tauro: #ubuntu-es
[07:31] <RedSocrates> !es | tauro
[07:32] <nilsh> hi all, i have a problem with an intel graphics card on jaunty
[07:32] <shadeslayer> nilsh: we all do :)
[07:32] <nilsh> oh, really? :D
[07:32] <Surlent777> tauro: mira "Synaptic" tambien
[07:32] <shadeslayer> nilsh: yes,its a regression
[07:32] <nilsh> oh no
[07:33] <nilsh> i need help
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> i dont
[07:33] <Surlent777> Nvidia ftw
[07:33] <shadeslayer> yeah
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> although i dont use intel gfx :)
[07:33] <indus> hi
[07:33] <shadeslayer> nilsh: try all you want ;)
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: snap
[07:33] <raylu> ActionParsnip: no; as stated earlier, xmonad
[07:33] <raylu> ActionParsnip: though i did use it some years ago
[07:34] <nilsh> everything works, except shutting down, changing user or switching the tty
[07:34] <aspidites> shadeslayer: i found it
[07:34] <shadeslayer> aspidites: what happened?
[07:34] <shadeslayer> aspidites: :)
[07:34] <boringpackets> I can't resize the gnome panel below 31 pixels, for some reason it wont let me anymore. Can someone Please help?
[07:34] <nilsh> so, i think it is an problem with xorg
[07:34] <aspidites> shadeslayer: what graphics card are you using?
[07:34] <shadeslayer> aspidites: nvidia geforce 8600 MGT
[07:34] <Surlent777> sounds like mine
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> raylu: lxde here
[07:34] <Surlent777> 8600 GT 512MB
[07:34] <aspidites> sweet, close to mine.. so you have to edit /etc/modprobe.d/framebuffer_blacklist
[07:35] <aspidites> (as root)
[07:35] <shadeslayer> Surlent777: ah thats the desktop version with DDR2,i have 256 MB DDR3
[07:35] <mzz> (duh, it's in /etc/ :P)
[07:35] <boringpackets> Please?
[07:35] <Surlent777> shadeslayer: madness
[07:35] <aspidites> shadeslayer: just comment out the nvidiafb line (add a #)
[07:35] <shadeslayer> aspidites: its empty :O
[07:35] <Petrus> boringpackets, I don't think you can do that
[07:36] <aspidites> shadeslayer: are you modifying it as root?
[07:36] <shadeslayer> aspidites: yes,sudoedit /etc/modprobe.d/framebuffer_blacklist
[07:36] <boringpackets> Petru I have been doing that for a long time until Ubuntu 9.04
[07:36] <mzz> boringpackets: I don't know enough about gnome but it's possible it's tied to some applet on your panel
[07:36] <wolferz> does anyone know how to install tar.gz and tar.bz2 packages?
[07:36] <Petrus> boringpackets, I don't know :(  I'm not an expert on gnome I'm sorry
[07:36] <mzz> boringpackets: does a completely empty panel have the same minimum size?
[07:36] <Surlent777> interesting...that file doesn't seem to exist on my computer
[07:36] <aspidites> shadeslayer: maybe ubuntu uses a different file. you can always add "graphics=nvidiafb" to your kernel line in menu.lst
[07:37] <KB1JWQ> wolferz: Gotta decompress 'em first.
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: if you meant gedit, you'll need gksudo for that ;)
[07:37] <aspidites> shadeslayer: correction: video=nvidiafb
[07:37] <eri-> hi
[07:37] <boringpackets> Thanks for the replies! I will try doing this with an empty panel, I'll create a new one to test.
[07:37] <KB1JWQ> tar xzvf filename for the gz stuff, tar xjvf for the bz2 stuff
[07:37] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: i meant sudoedit ;)
[07:37] <eri-> i need to install opengl on ubuntu jaenty
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> nice
[07:37] <mzz> KB1JWQ: not sure when this was introduced but in at least some versions of tar you can omit the j/z and it'll autodetect :)
[07:38] <nilsh> nobody with me? :(
[07:38] <Surlent777> eri-: I think it should already be able to do OpenGL, shouldn't it?
[07:38] <aspidites> shadeslayer: i shouldn't have to say this, but make sure you back up your original menu.lst file
[07:38] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Ooh, that's a neat feature.  I'll have to try that, I'm too used to old-school methods. :)
[07:38] <boringpackets> Odd, new panels automatically start at 22 pixels. Thank you SO MUCH for figuring this out. I will just make a new panel and delete this one.
[07:38] <shadeslayer> aspidites: already did
[07:38] <eri-> Surlent777:  i can't run savage 2
[07:38] <shadeslayer> aspidites: i add it to the end?
[07:38] <aspidites> doesn't matter. i have it before the ro option
[07:38] <shadeslayer> after ro?
[07:38] <Surlent777> eri-: Are you trying to run a Windows version? (I have no idea what that game is)
[07:38] <eri-> i try tu run in terminal and the error its i dont have open gl 2.1
[07:39] <Surlent777> ok so I guess not
[07:39] <shadeslayer> ok rebooting
[07:39] <aspidites> actually, because i have teh file, the only thing i add to my kernel line is the vga option
[07:39] <Surlent777> eri-: Did you try looking around in Synaptic for anything corresponding to that?
[07:39] <lundh> what do I need to be able to boot from an external dvd-player?
[07:39] <eri-> yep Surlent777
[07:39] <aspidites> eri-: what graphics card are you running?
[07:39] <eri-> im install openglad
[07:40] <eri-> intel mobile 4
[07:40] <aspidites> eri-: i don't think that chipset supports opengl
[07:40] <wolferz> what do I do after downloading and doing configure though
[07:40] <eri-> aspidites: i see around the web im see something about intel and opengl problems
[07:41] <KB1JWQ> wolferz: make, sudo make install generally
[07:41] <eri-> but i see this post its old post
[07:41] <KB1JWQ> Read the INSTALL within the package if needed.
[07:41] <KB1JWQ> Might also be called README
[07:41] <Surlent777> hey, I found that file you guys were talking about (framebuffer blacklist). I missed it though: What would enabling the nvidia fb do?
[07:41] <eri-> maybe i have  jaunty have more solution
[07:41] <mzz> although imho sudo make install is not your friend, consider installing into your homedir (or running straight out of the build dir) or using checkinstall
[07:41] <wolferz> I thank you, is there some cheat sheet for users used to buggy windows?
[07:42] <aspidites> eri-: try runnign glxgears in terminal. if it doesn't work, i don't think you can run it
[07:42] <KB1JWQ> mzz: Ah, that's right.  I'm too used to installing things systemwide.
[07:42] <eri-> dam it
[07:42] <eri-> sorry
[07:42] <aspidites> eri-: glxgears didn't work?
[07:42] <eri-> aspidites: i try to don't use windows hahaha
[07:42] <aspidites> eri-: do you have the latest intel drivers installed?
[07:42] <eri-> it's imposible some times
[07:43] <eri-> aspidites: nop
[07:43] <aspidites> eri-: that might be your problem :|
[07:43] <shadeslayer> aspidites: pretty much the same
[07:43] <mzz> systemwide's fine, systemwide outside of package manager control (and not contained to a dir in /opt or the like) less so
[07:43] <axis> does anyone know how to make rar files in the form of i.e part01.rar part02.rar part03.rar -- like the compression.. not splitting the contents inside.. or doefining how big part01 part02 part03 can be each?
[07:43] <axis> in linux
[07:43] <eri-> aspidites: how i do to install the new intel driver
[07:43] <MoKu23> hi
[07:43] <mzz> axis: does it have to be rar?
[07:43] <axis> i have the rarlinux.tar.gz from rarlabs but when i run ./rar i don't see how i can do that..... i see rar a file.rar file1.dat file2.dat etc
[07:43] <axis> no
[07:43] <axis> it doesnt
[07:43] <aspidites> shadeslayer: really? mine is definately 1440x900 instead of 800x600 maybe it has somethin to do with the file being empty
[07:44] <axis> if theres a better solution sure
[07:44] <axis> ill take that
[07:44] <FloodBot2> axis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:44] <aspidites> i'd say do a google search for the ubuntu equivalent
[07:44] <mzz> axis: there's a tool called "split" that does this to any file
[07:44] <shadeslayer> aspidites: maybe,no idea mate ;) maybe i have to use vga=
[07:44] <boringpackets> When I hold my mouse over anything in Ubuntu a little help thing comes up telling me what my mouse is being held over. Can I disable this?
[07:44] <MoKu23> which is the command for look all USB drives?
[07:44] <shadeslayer> MoKu23: lsusb
[07:44] <aspidites> eri-: not sure. i don't use ubuntu. everyone? what's the command to search for packages? is it apt-cache package_name ?
[07:44] <mzz> axis: so one option is to create any kind of archive (.tar or .tar.bz2 for example), then running "split" on that (with the right options)
[07:44] <axis> but if i send the split files
[07:44] <MoKu23> dont show nothing (shadeslayer)
[07:44] <axis> to a windows machine
[07:45] <axis> how do i rejoin it
[07:45] <aspidites> shadeslayer: you have to use both vga=864 and video=nvidiafb
[07:45] <boringpackets> I remember a specific place where I was previously able to edit various detailed aspects of gnome, but It's been a long time.
[07:45] <axis> on the windows
[07:45] <mzz> axis: ah, windows target. Yeah, that won't work easily. sec.
[07:45] <axis> thats why i wanted to use rar
[07:45] <FloodBot2> axis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <shadeslayer> aspidites: now youre telling me ;P
[07:45] <Surlent777> aspidites: I can confirm that as a no
[07:45] <aspidites> boringpackets: gconfig editor maybe?
[07:45] <aspidites> shadeslayer: i told you that before :P
[07:45] <ttwj> is it possible to uninstall ubuntu desktop and install ubuntu server?
[07:46] <boringpackets> aspidttwj Yes that was it thank you.
[07:46] <MoKu23> helppppppppppppppppppppppp
[07:46] <ttwj> hello?
[07:46] <aspidites> ttwj: you can run the livecd and do a complete reinstall, or just uninstall gnome desktop, xserver, etc
[07:46] <mzz> axis: the "zip" utility takes a -s switch which might suffice
[07:46] <shadeslayer> aspidites: too much traffic here :P
[07:46] <paul68> ttwj: I should do  clean install
[07:46] <aspidites> boringpackets: your welcome
[07:46] <MoKu23> helppppppppppppppppppppppp
[07:46] <eri-> aspidites: how i can do to install the new driver for intel
[07:46] <shadeslayer> MoKu23: yes?
[07:46] <qetuR> I was wondering if their is any script that can recognize the size of the image you have just "ctrl-c/x", so when you create a new pic in gimp, it knows of large the pic is i.e. 374x124 pixels, anybody knows anything about it?
[07:46] <MoKu23> for show all usb drive?
[07:46] <paul68> !ask|MoKu23:
[07:46] <aspidites> eri-: just guessing..open synaptic and search for "xorg intel"
[07:46] <eri-> ok
[07:46] <ttwj> aspidites, can i just do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[07:46] <shadeslayer> MoKu23: i told you lsusb :|
[07:47] <eri-> aspidites: thnx
[07:47] <MoKu23> i have done, but dont show nithing
[07:47] <aspidites> ttwj: yeah, but i'd drop to tty first
[07:47] <axis> I must have an outdated version of zip
[07:47] <manlymat_83> Any repositories around still with 7.10 packages?
[07:47] <axis> because i don't see -s at all
[07:47] <Surlent777> MoKu23: Then you have nothing plugged in, likely
[07:47] <manlymat_83> 8.04's fonts changed and I hated it when I upgraded.
[07:47] <mzz> qetuR: just use edit -> paste as -> new image (in gimp)?
[07:47] <MoKu23> admin@ks367698:/home$ lsusb -s
[07:47] <MoKu23> lsusb: option requires an argument -- s
[07:47] <MoKu23> Usage: lsusb [options]...
[07:47] <MoKu23> List USB devices
[07:47] <MoKu23>   -v, --verbose
[07:47] <FloodBot2> MoKu23: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <MoKu23>       Increase verbosity (show descriptors)
[07:47] <aspidites> ttwj: i think it messes up your update mechanism though, so fresh install is cleaner
[07:47] <shadeslayer> ok im gonna reboot again
[07:47] <paul68> !enter |moku23
[07:47] <aspidites> shadeslayer: good luck again
[07:47] <Surlent777> what's +z?
[07:48] <axis> zipsplit
[07:48] <SPF> what sort of package is ubuntu-desktop?
[07:48] <axis> hmm
[07:48] <wolferz> I think I did something wrong, lol.
[07:48] <shadeslayer> MoKu23: i can see my usb devices through lsusb
[07:48] <manlymat_83> Or does 9.0 make it better?
[07:48] <Mikebo> Hello. Can someone do me a quick favor and check what they have in the Waiting channel column of System Monitor (processes tab) for the gvfs-fuse-daemon.
[07:48] <mzz> Surlent777: ops can still see what he says
[07:48] <qetuR> mzz: ty!
[07:48] <shadeslayer> SPF: gnome meta package i thinkl
[07:48] <Surlent777> mzz: ok, thanks
[07:48] <mzz> Surlent777: (roughly, see the freenode list of channel modes for specifics)
[07:48] <wolferz> What does this mean? : make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[07:48] <Surlent777> mzz: wish oftc had something like that...would have been hilarious during some old "wars" =D
[07:48] <aspidites> seems a surge of people needing help just flooded in here :\
[07:49] <aspidites> kinda fun helping out though
[07:49] <eri-> aspidites:  X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
[07:49] <Surlent777> yeah
[07:49] <MoKu23> help pls
[07:49] <eri-> aspidites:  hmmm i have instaled
[07:49] <mzz> Surlent777: yeah, I think this is a freenodeism, but I hardly know non-freenode networks, so...
[07:49] <paul68> !patience|MoKu23:
[07:49] <aspidites> eri-: :| do other 3d games work?
[07:49] <mzz> MoKu23: so how did just plain "lsusb" fail?
[07:49] <eri-> yep
[07:49] <eri-> aspidites: but the savage 2 need opengl 2.1
[07:50] <corpsicle> hey guys
[07:50] <aspidites> eri-: are they opengl games or just sdl ?
[07:50] <aspidites> hi corpsicle
[07:50] <corpsicle> i have a slight problem with spotify in wine in ubuntu 9.04
[07:50] <corpsicle> which a dual screen setup
[07:50] <corpsicle> wine seems to think the mouse is offset by a screen or so
[07:50] <aspidites> corpsicle: you lost me at dual screen
[07:50] <BilokShem> How's it going
[07:50] <corpsicle> so when i grab the window it pops like 1200 pixels to the right
[07:51] <aspidites> BilokShem: pretty good, you?
[07:51] <corpsicle> its more an annoyance than a problem but it would be nice if there was a solution
[07:51] <corpsicle> is there a wine channel perhaps
[07:51] <Surlent777> BilokShem: Fine, aside from the framebuffer being weird and wanting to redirect TTY things to X
[07:51] <Maiku> is there a way to telnet over a specific interface, eth0 in this case?
[07:51] <corpsicle> ... and is it about wine or wine
[07:51] <Gnea> corpsicle: #winehq
[07:51] <mzz> MoKu23: if you get no output from lsusb that probably means your usb root hubs weren't detected. What does lspci have to say about those?
[07:51] <mzz> err, host controllers, not root hubs
[07:52] <halycon> hey everyone I have both gnome and KDE installed but would like to switch to KDE and try that out. I have changed my login screen though so I no longer get the option to change my session. Does anyone know how to switch to using KDE?
[07:52] <mzz> Maiku: I don't understand the question. Do you mean you want the daemon to only listen on one interface?
[07:52] <Gnea> halycon: how did you change it?
[07:52] <rumpel2> @halycon change it back
[07:52] <aspidites> halycon: you can use .xinitrc to log into kde
[07:52] <eri-> aspidites: Savage2 - Fatal Error: OpenGL 2.1 not available.
[07:52] <MoKu23> helppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[07:52] <MoKu23> helppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[07:52] <corpsicle> thanks Gnea
[07:52] <Gnea> !helpme | MoKu23
[07:52] <Petrus> halcyon...log out...and there's a button at the lower left hand corner of the screen
[07:52] <paul68> !attitude!Moku23
[07:52] <Surlent777> halycon: Press F10 on GDM to get the usual options
[07:52] <aspidites> eri-: like i said, you may not be able to run opengl programs. those other 3d games might be sdl
[07:52] <Petrus> the option you want is Choose Session, or something to that effect
[07:53] <paul68> !attitude|moku23
[07:53] <Petrus> it will let you switch to KDE
[07:53] <MoKu23> for look usb drive?
[07:53] <Maiku> mzz: no, I have a device on the other end of a crossover cable I'm trying to telnet into
[07:53] <Gnea> corpsicle: cheers
[07:53] <MoKu23> admin@ks367698:/home$ lsusb
[07:53] <MoKu23> admin@ks367698:/home$
[07:53] <halycon> I don't remember what I did to change the login screen ;)
[07:53] <mzz> MoKu23: also, going "helppp" after ignoring requests for further information from helpers really doesn't help :P
[07:53] <BilokShem> Would I be considered a troll if I was trolling a troll?
[07:53] <paul68> !enter|moku23
[07:53] <Maiku> the interface might not be set up just right, but it sort of responds to pings :P
[07:53] <Surlent777> halycon: You likely changed the theme through System > Admin > Login Screen
[07:53] <halycon> thanks guys I love you all and I will try that
[07:53] <mzz> Maiku: you can't telnet to an interface, but you can telnet to an ip that has a route over a particular interface
[07:53] <halycon> yes I think that is it
[07:54] <Surlent777> BilokShem: Possibly.
[07:54] <Gnea> MoKu23: you might want to try asking in #ubuntu-it
[07:54] <BilokShem> hmmm
[07:54] <Maiku> mzz: that would be a better way to word it, yes
[07:54] <Surlent777> BilokShem: If there's a good chance of generating win, then do it
[07:54] <BilokShem> Would I be considered a troll if I cybered?
[07:54] <eri-> aspidites: hmmm you say try to other game?
[07:54] <shadeslayer> aspidites: yayy irssi is now usable on a tty
[07:54] <Petrus> BilokShem I haven't been banned yet for voicing various alternatives of the general theme, "UBUNTU SUCKS!!" so I doubt you're likely to be banned for anything short of profanity. ;)
[07:54] <mzz> Maiku: so I think you're looking for "route" (and interface configuration), not something telnet-specific
[07:54] <Gnea> BilokShem: asking such a question would consider you offtopic, if that helps
[07:54] <aspidites> halycon: you can check our /etc/inittab file
[07:55] <eri-> aspidites: i speak english a litter bit
[07:55] <BilokShem> it doesn't actually
[07:55] <Surlent777> BilokShem: Depends on the situation. If it's to shock/disgust, it could be worth it
[07:55] <Gnea> that's too bad.
[07:55] <BilokShem> what if it's not
[07:55] <Surlent777> otherwise, you just look like a pervert
[07:55] <Gnea> or a noob
[07:55] <Maiku> mzz: sounds good to me
[07:55] <Surlent777> haha, that too
[07:55] <aspidites> eri-: oh ok. i am saying i don't think your graphics card will let you play savage 2
[07:56] <aspidites> shadeslayer: glad it worked for you. sorry about the delay, your reply was burried
[07:56] <eri-> aspidites: ok but the game only say something about opengl
[07:56] <Surlent777> just to confirm, BSD is essentially the same idea as Linux, right?
[07:56] <Maiku> mzz: thanks a bunch, I think that set me on the right track :)
[07:56] <aspidites> eri-: right. your graphics card doesn't support opengl i don't think
[07:56] <duryodhan> Surlent777: no
[07:56] <Gnea> Surlent777: er, 'idea'?
[07:56] <shadeslayer> aspidites: btw i have one more tiny problem,when i use tf-tools to login i have to swipe my fingers 3 times to login,whereas fprint_demo scans only onece,any ideas??
[07:56] <duryodhan> Surlent777: read the wikipedia articles
[07:56] <eri-> aspidites: ok
[07:56] <aspidites> eri-: try downloading another game that uses opengl. all games don't use it
[07:57] <shadeslayer> aspidites: no problem ;)
[07:57] <Surlent777> Gnea: I mean, it's another UNIX varient, yeah?
[07:57] <Gnea> Surlent777: it is.
[07:57] <eri-> aspidites: ok
[07:57] <aspidites> shadeslayer: i don't even know what tf-tools is, sorry
[07:57] <duryodhan> Surlent777: everything is a unix variant
[07:57]  * Gnea looks oddly at duryodhan 
[07:57] <Surlent777> duryodhan: Not exactly DOS, if I remember my history lesson in Computer Repair
[07:57] <shadeslayer> aspidites: thinkfinger tools
[07:57] <digdeep> hi, how can I stop pidgin autostart when login
[07:57] <aspidites> duryodhan: i was pretty sure windows wasn't a unix variant....mac on the other hand
[07:58] <aspidites> shadeslayer: there's also plan 9
[07:58] <Surlent777> mac is a ripoff of BSD, iirc
[07:58] <shadeslayer> digdeep: remove it from startup manager
[07:58] <duryodhan> aspidites: afaik, all modern OS are based on teh original unix idea
[07:58] <lundh> catz boot.img.gz > /dev/sdc1 and then moving the iso onto the usb-drive should give me a bootable linux right?
[07:58] <Surlent777> at least, the current one
[07:58] <shadeslayer> !info plan9
[07:58] <shadeslayer> aspidites: ?
[07:58] <Gnea> Surlent777: it's not. they actually worked out a deal that compiles fully with the BSD license.
[07:58] <eri-> aspidites:  i like to uninstall you can't help me.. because i cant see in synaptic
[07:58] <duryodhan> aspidites: unix is a set of ideas on designing OS - which windows also followed , slowly it has made some changes
[07:58] <Surlent777> Gnea: What I mean is, it's not theirs....they just "borrowed" it
[07:58] <aspidites> duryodhan: based off of idea and based off of achitecture or source code are two different things.
[07:58] <duryodhan> aspidites: but I think thats true for everything - even linux
[07:59] <duryodhan> aspidites: unix is an idea
[07:59] <mzz> well, the whole "idea" term here is vague enough that the question's mostly meaningless
[07:59] <lundh> windows isnt based on unix and mac isnt a ripoff of bsd :)
[07:59] <duryodhan> exactly
[07:59] <Gnea> Surlent777: and the reason no one is suing apple as a result would be...? :)
[07:59] <duryodhan> thats why I said everything is based of unix
[07:59] <aspidites> duryodhan: you say unix based, i'm thinking using unix's source code. linux isn't unix based in this since. it's unix-like
[07:59] <duryodhan> idea
[07:59] <duryodhan> :D
[07:59] <shadeslayer> duryodhan: stupid idea imho
[07:59] <aspidites> duryodhan: now talking about "ideas", yes, unix based
[07:59] <duryodhan> aspidites: yeah fine
[07:59] <duryodhan> aspidites: even bsd , unix and mac aren't unix based
[07:59] <lundh> mac os x (or its predecessor) is older then the kurrent bsd:s
[07:59] <duryodhan> *linux
[07:59] <Gnea> duryodhan: dude, dos was developed in someone's garage
[08:00] <Surlent777> Gnea: Have you seen most Apple users? Check their macrumors forum once in a while...I have a screencap of one of those idiots claiming that Macs invented the internet, hence the "MAC address" of every piece of hardware
[08:00] <duryodhan> Gnea: NT
[08:00] <shadeslayer> haha
[08:00] <Gnea> duryodhan: wut?
[08:00] <shadeslayer> all this os ot btw ;)
[08:00] <duryodhan> Gnea: NT is based on the idea of Unix
[08:00] <rumpel2> i always wondered...
[08:00] <mzz> Surlent777: heh
[08:00] <aspidites> Surlent777: lol
[08:00] <Gnea> duryodhan: but the underlying OS wasn't
[08:01] <duryodhan> Gnea: what underlying OS ? NT is the OS .. there is nothing underlying to it
[08:01] <lundh> no. NT has a posix subsystem, thats very different
[08:01] <luca__> hi everyone
[08:01] <aspidites> hah, we went from newbie customer support center to unix debate panel
[08:01] <Surlent777> too deep for me now, sadly...and I'm getting situational ADD, so I'm going to go read the screen manual to learn how to copy/paste
[08:01] <mzz> something like this frequently happens with irc support channels
[08:01] <Gnea> Surlent777: I'm sorry, but the fabrication of ideas based on a population of television-watching geeks in order to purport a conspiracy of capitalistic value means what in the grand scheme of things? :)
[08:01] <luca__> I have recently resized my swap partition, and now the system is not able to use it anymore (already checked fstab)
[08:02] <duryodhan> lundh: ?
[08:02] <Gnea> duryodhan: uhm, NT was not a re-write from the ground up.
[08:02] <mzz> luca__: tried rerunning mkswap on it?
[08:02] <Gnea> anyway
[08:02] <Surlent777> Gnea: It gives me yet another excuse to degrade a subset of idiots, mostly. Everyone needs a hobby =P
[08:02] <mzz> luca__: (make sure it's not used first!)
[08:02] <Gnea> this whole conversation is offtopic
[08:02]  * Gnea stops.
[08:02] <aspidites> Gnea: oh man...you're one of THOSE people?
[08:02]  * duryodhan stops
[08:02] <luca__> mzz: yeah, and also to add the uuid to fstab and rebooting. No luck :(
[08:02] <aspidites> the whole, everything is a big brother conspiracy type?
[08:02] <lundh> duryodhan: nt is not built around the unix-phiolosophy. It does however have a posix-compatible layer as requested by the us department of defense
[08:03] <mzz> luca__: so how does manually running swapon on it fail?
[08:03] <Surlent777> nah, it's not big brother, it's the illuminati =)
[08:03] <aspidites> speaking of fstab, is anyone still using device locations /etc/sd* or has everyone switched to uuids?
[08:03] <duryodhan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT .. designed with features comparable with unix
[08:03]  * shadeslayer drinks diet coke
[08:03] <mzz> aspidites: lvm names here
[08:03] <Surlent777> and urine is comparable with soda...they're both liquids. Doesn't mean that urine is soda or vice versa
[08:03] <lundh> duryodhan: yeah, those features are the posix subsystem that is an addition to the system
[08:04] <aspidites> mzz: i was using lvm, but stopped about 3 months ago
[08:04] <luca__> mzz: well, here is the strange thing - it is mounted but not used; by this I mean I am unable also to hibernate (simple reboot instead) and the usplash is broken (typical)
[08:04] <digdeep> shadeslayer: sudo apt-get install startupmanager?
[08:04] <Surlent777> ok, I am not going to be made into a liar. To GNU manuals!
[08:04] <mzz> aspidites: my /boot is /dev/disk/by-id/blah, the rest is mostly lvm-based
[08:04] <aspidites> ah
[08:04] <mzz> luca__: define "mounted"
[08:04] <shadeslayer> digdeep: no your startup manager in systems
[08:05] <whitevamp> can any one help me out with a wubi error?
[08:05] <aspidites> whitevamp: yeah. don't use it :)
[08:05] <jtan325> what do you folks recommend for simple backup?
[08:05] <shadeslayer> digdeep: system > prefrences > startup
[08:05] <mzz> luca__: how do you know it is "mounted"? How do you know it is "not used"?
[08:06] <digdeep> shadeslayer: ok
[08:06] <duryodhan> mzz: run mount
[08:06] <duryodhan> mzz: if its mounted it will show
[08:06] <whitevamp> aspidites :  yea i know.
[08:06] <mzz> jtan325: I use rsync, but trying rdiff-backup is on my todo list
[08:06] <mzz> duryodhan: swap isn't really mounted (which is why I was adding those quotation marks)
[08:06] <mzz> duryodhan: it definitely won't show up in "mount", at least
[08:07] <luca__> mzz: swapon -a did not output any error; also, it appears on free. Free and system monitor say it is mounted but empty ... and on reboot after hibernating it makes a simple reboot :(
[08:07] <Mikebo> Can someone do me a quick favor and check what they have in the Waiting channel column of System Monitor (processes tab) for the gvfs-fuse-daemon.
[08:07] <duryodhan> mzz: ohh sorry .. didn't see that is was about swap
[08:07] <mzz> luca__: so the actual problem is that you're not resuming properly, correct?
[08:07] <luca__> mzz: basically yeah, but
[08:07] <duryodhan> mzz: mzz cat /proc/swaps
[08:08] <aspidites> whitevamp: seriously though, what's the issue. we can give it a shot
[08:08] <luca__> mzz: setting swappiness to 100, still the system does not use swap
[08:08] <jtan325> \help
[08:08]  * shadeslayer shoots the wubi installer
[08:08] <jtan325> arghhh irssi
[08:08] <mzz> duryodhan: or "swapon -s"
[08:08] <aspidites> jtan325: wrong slash
[08:08] <jtan325> yes. this is *too* awesome
[08:08] <luca__> mzz duryodhan: cat /proc/swap -> nothing
[08:09] <duryodhan> luca__: then you are not using swap
[08:09] <mzz> luca__: and "swapon -s" (which probably just reads that file, but check)?
[08:09] <duryodhan> luca__: swapon -a
[08:09] <luca__> mzz duryodhan: /dev/sda6                               partition	2104472	0	-1
[08:10] <duryodhan> what the ...
[08:10] <luca__> duryodhan: first thing I tried after reboot :(
[08:10] <mzz> luca__: interesting. Did you "cat /proc/swaps"? You should at least get a header line...
[08:10] <nmvictor> Hey out their,is their a way I can resize the size of my swap,maybe increasing it
[08:10] <aspidites> hey, does anyone know how to manually override rfkill state?
[08:10] <luca__> mzz: "no file or directory"
[08:10] <mzz> nmvictor: I'd add a swapfile if this is a temporary thing
[08:10] <aspidites> nmvictor: easiest option would be gparted
[08:10] <duryodhan> nmvictor: I think you can have multiple partitions as swap partitions
[08:11] <mzz> luca__: I'm not in an ubuntu kernel right now but I'm pretty sure /proc/swaps normally exists...
[08:11] <nmvictor> mzz:hows that?
[08:11] <whitevamp> aspidites: i get through the install and reboot into ubuntu for it to finsh installing and i get the coammand line, and i looked in casper.log and it says it cant find my drives, and then it says it cant find the iso. witch i have dubbled checked and its in the c:/ubuntu/install dir.. so any idea on this?
[08:11] <timc> hey, quick question. my ex gf is using slackware. does ubuntu make me a sissy?
[08:11] <luca__> nmvictor: I'd advise not to resize; I have quite some problems after I did it today :P
[08:11] <duryodhan> luca__: are you sure cat /proc/swaps didn't give anything ?
[08:11] <mzz> luca__: (also, on this system "swapon -s" reads /proc/swaps)
[08:11] <luca__> duryodhan: positive
[08:11] <Chowder> timc: .....maybe
[08:11] <aspidites> whitevamp: sounds like an /etc/fstab problem or grub issue
[08:11] <mzz> luca__: gave you *nothing* or gave you just a header line with no actual partitions listed?
[08:12] <duryodhan> timc: well very smart of you to ask in #ubuntu
[08:12] <luca__> duryodhan: my fault; had forgotten the final s
[08:12] <luca__> sorry
[08:12] <timc> thanks Chowder
[08:12] <shadeslayer> whitevamp: why not do a *proper* install?
[08:12] <timc> i don't know where else to ask
[08:12] <tyler> Hello all...was wondering someone might be able to help me install ATI Graphics drivers for Ubuntu
[08:12] <Chowder> timc: looks like your ex is more DIY
[08:12] <KB1JWQ> What's the Ubuntu equivalent to chkconfig --list on redhat based stuff?
[08:12] <luca__> duryodhan mzz same output as swapon -s
[08:12] <shadeslayer> !ati | tyler
[08:12] <aspidites> KB1JWQ: and what does chkconfig --list do?
[08:12] <duryodhan> luca__: so there is a swap..
[08:12] <Chowder> timc: if you really want to one-up her use Linux from Scratch on a separate partition
[08:12] <duryodhan> luca__: so whats the problem again ? :D
[08:13] <mzz> nmvictor: from memory: dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/partition/with/enough/space/swapfile bs=1M count=512 (for 512 MiB of swap), then "swapon /path/to/that/file". When done with the swap: swapoff /path/to/that/file, then rm the file
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> shows a list of what services are set to activate at startup
[08:13] <luca__> duryodhan: with swappiness 100, it is not used
[08:13] <timc> she's going to slack from LFS
[08:13] <duryodhan> luca__: so ?
[08:13] <luca__> duryodhan: and no resume from hibernate :(
[08:13] <duryodhan> luca__: aah
[08:13] <Chowder> o_O
[08:13] <aspidites> whitevamp: honestly though, livecd install will be easier/cleaner than wubi
[08:13] <mzz> luca__: so afaict the only problem is it doesn't resume, unless it still doesn't swap after actually forcing enough ram used
[08:13] <Chowder> looks like your ex is a well seasoned Linux user
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> MoKu23: the -s switch gives me a menu with options, lsusb will simply spit out everything it can find
[08:14] <KB1JWQ> aspidites: So chkconfig postfix on sets postfix to start at boot, chkconfig postfix off disables it at boot, and --list shows what services start at particular runlevels.
[08:14] <whitevamp> aspidites: prolbly a botched install ( have uninstalled and reinstalled 5X's, sence there is no fstab file in /etc, lol theres like 5 files there.
[08:14] <Chowder> personally, I dualboot with Ubuntu and archlinux
[08:14] <timc> i wonder how many girls use slack.... haha
[08:14] <duryodhan> luca__: mzz maybe its because your swap seems to be on an lvm ? .. does hibernate work wth that ?
[08:14] <luca__> duryodhan: I am trying to overflow ram, but with swappiness 100 it still should start to use swap earlier
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> timc: haahha
[08:14] <mzz> luca__: unfortunately for you I don't know how resume is handled on ubuntu
[08:14] <shadeslayer> meh.... tired of tty,switching back to X :P
[08:14] <duryodhan> luca__: it is really hard on modern systems to make the kernel use the fs swap .. I have never managed it :D
[08:14] <brutus> how do I manually mount a usb mouse?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> timc: or how many guyes opensuse ;)
[08:14] <luca__> duryodhan: could you please check with gparted what flags does your partition have?
[08:15] <duryodhan> brutus: you connect it
[08:15] <luca__> mzz thanks anyway
[08:15] <aspidites> whitevamp: yeah, if theres no /etc/fstab, ther is somethind DEFINATELY wrong. that's how linux knows what drives exist. unless wubi does some voodoo magic
[08:15] <KB1JWQ> brutus: You don't mount mice.
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> brutus: you mount partitions, not devices
[08:15] <rumpel2> @brutus how much Gigabyte?
[08:15] <mzz> duryodhan: hibernate definitely can work with that (my swap is on lvm) but I use a custom initramfs. I don't know if ubuntu's initramfs can do this.
[08:15] <duryodhan> luca__: not on ubuntu right now
[08:15] <Zencyde> What are some frequent packages that 64 bit Ubuntu can't touch? Also, are there issues with Wine under the 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[08:15] <box> hey, should i be able to video chat with ichat users in 9.04 using empathy?
[08:15] <aspidites> KB1JWQ: aah. sorry, not sure of the equivalent
[08:15] <KB1JWQ> aspidites: No worries.  Thanks anyway. :)
[08:15] <luca__> mzz: the swap did function until I resized it
[08:15] <luca__> mzz I am buffled honestly
[08:16] <brutus> duryodhan, KB1JWQ ActionParsnip rumpel2 I have connected it but it doesn't sense it
[08:16] <rumpel2> @brutus some kind of very exotic mouse?
[08:16] <aspidites> KB1JWQ: seems the package exists on debian though, so it should be the same in ubuntu
[08:16] <whitevamp> aspidites: yea i wasnt sure if wubui installed some crazy file in place of fstab or not, so i wasnt sure.
[08:16] <unop> luca__, maybe /etc/fstab is trying to mount the wrong partition i.e. the UUID of the partition might have changed
[08:16] <mzz> duryodhan: the most straightforward way to resume (resume=/some/partition option to the kernel) doesn't work with swap on lvm, unsurprisingly. You need the initramfs to run the "resume" userspace utility after spinning up lvm. Not hard, but the initramfs needs to figure out or know about your swap partition to do it.
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> brutus: is it ps2 or usb?
[08:16] <luca__> unop: already checked but thanks :)
[08:16] <aspidites> KB1JWQ: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=chkconfig
[08:16] <brutus> rumpel2, nope, a normal optical mouse that works on windows
[08:16] <shadeslayer> box: maybe,maybe not,ask in #telepathy ;)
[08:16] <brutus> ActionParsnip, its a usb mouse
[08:17] <mzz> luca__: did the partition number of the swap partition change in the process?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> brutus: does it show up in lsusb
[08:17] <jtan325> is there a way in irc to ignore the "joined" and "quit" messages?
[08:17] <aspidites> KB1JWQ: it'd be your basic sudo apt-get install chkconfig
[08:17] <mzz> jtan325: depends on the client
[08:17] <shadeslayer> jtan325: which client>
[08:17] <shadeslayer> ?
[08:17] <armoredsaint> hello
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> jtan325: which client?
[08:17] <jtan325> irssi
[08:17] <aspidites> armoredsaint: hi
[08:17] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: brain wave ??
[08:17] <rumpel2> @brutus vendor? model? wireless?
[08:17] <luca__> mzz: partition number no, but the UUID yes - I changed it in the fstab too every time
[08:17] <brutus> ActionParsnip, very strangely, lsusb causes my terminal to hang and I have to cross it out and restart the terminal
[08:17] <jtan325> also, it'd be nice if different people's nicks could be colored differently.
[08:17] <mzz> luca__: oh, uuid change is a good point. I suspect you may have to regenerate the initramfs, but I don't know how to do that.
[08:17] <jtan325> i'm such an irssi n00b
[08:17] <KB1JWQ> brutus: dmesg shows it being connected, or no?
[08:17] <armoredsaint> aspidi tes: hi back at ya..what ru doig /
[08:17] <shadeslayer> jtan325: use konversation or quassel then :)
[08:18] <luca__> mzz: ok, I have the strangest thing here
[08:18] <armoredsaint> doing
[08:18] <KB1JWQ> brutus: Might be a bad mouse.
[08:18] <mzz> luca__: the resume happens (has to happen!) before the root partition is mounted. fstab isn't used here, but may be used when the initramfs is generated.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> brutus: hmm, ok then take it out, wait 10 seconds, back in, 10 seconds, the run   dmesg | tail
[08:18] <Petrus_> jtan yes, there would be...but in most cases it'd prolly involve a bit of scripting
[08:18] <nmvictor> I have an 80 gb sata HDD,15gb alocated for ubuntu,64 GB for windows vista and 700MB for linux swap.I have tried creating a new partition for logical drives,both with windows Disk management tool and ubuntus gparted but they have all failed.Now all I want is to add some MB to my linux swap.Or is their a more powerfull tool out their that would meet my every need?
[08:18] <shadeslayer> brutus: problems with the mouse?
[08:18] <unop> luca__, mzz  update-initramfs(8)
[08:18] <mzz> ah, thanks
[08:18] <luca__> unop: thanks :)
[08:18] <Petrus_> jtan325, look up the numerics for joins and parts, and attach events to them which delete/suppress said msgs
[08:18] <brutus> shadeslayer, yes, usb mouse is not being detected when I plug it in
[08:19] <shadeslayer> brutus: lsusb hangs?
[08:19] <mzz> luca__: (while the system is suspended the root partition is dirty. Mounting it would involve rolling back the journal, so it can't do that, has to figure out how to resume without reading the root partition)
[08:19] <brutus> ActionParsnip, [ 4860.308000] usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 3
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> aspidites: Was hoping not to install it; it feels like cheating to turn Ubuntu into RedHat. :-p
[08:19] <brutus> [ 4867.580000] usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[08:19] <brutus> [ 4867.756000] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:19] <Petrus_> I'd know how to do it directly with mirc, but under Linux it might take a bit more doing
[08:19] <brutus> shadeslayer, yes- very weird
[08:19] <luca__> mzz: yeah clear
[08:19] <shadeslayer> brutus: try it from a tty
[08:19] <luca__> ok updating initram
[08:19] <KB1JWQ> brutus: And it doesn't work at all?
[08:19] <aspidites> i think the command for the initramfs generation is mkinitcpio
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> brutus: use pastebin in future for multiple lines
[08:19] <jtan325> argh, how do you page up/down?
[08:19] <aspidites> try man mkinitcpio whoever was needing that
[08:19] <shadeslayer> jtan325: page up key,in irssi
[08:20] <KB1JWQ> brutus: Okay, for laughs try a different USB mouse.  Same issue?
[08:20] <brutus> ActionParsnip, sorry...any idea what the problem is?
[08:20] <jtan325> shadeslayer: thanks
[08:20] <whitevamp> aspidites: so any idea on what would be causeing this botched install of wubi?
[08:20] <brutus> KB1JWQ, umm...I have just this one
[08:20] <shadeslayer> jtan325: np
[08:20] <jtan325> whoa is tab-completion
[08:20] <mzz> jtan325: there are scripts for different nick colors, I think. For page up/down you can (unsurprisingly) hit the pgup/pgdown keys on your keyboard :)
[08:20] <KB1JWQ> brutus: Hmm.  Have another computer?
[08:20] <KB1JWQ> Or another OS on this one?
[08:20] <shadeslayer> whitevamp: botched wubi :P
[08:20] <KB1JWQ> I'd be curious to see if the problem follows the mouse.
[08:20] <jtan325> Petrus_: looks like i'll have to hit up the monstrous manual
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> brutus: try: sudo rmmod usbhid ; sleep 3; sudo modprobe usbhid
[08:20] <brutus> shadeslayer, the tty hangs too
[08:20] <KB1JWQ> Because I've never had issue under any OS with USB mice; they "just work"
[08:20] <jtan325> mzz: thanks
[08:20] <aspidites> KB1JWQ: lol. fair enough
[08:21] <luca__> mzz unop: ok I have done "sudo update-initramfs -c -k all"
[08:21] <mzz> jtan325: the /lastlog command really helps in busy channels like this (I'm typing "/lastlog jt<tab> 10" a lot to keep track of conversations)
[08:21] <Petrus_> jtan, the details might vary a bit by client, but the main thing you want, as I said, is the server numerics for joins and parts
[08:21] <luca__> unop mzz: I think I'll reboot now, and see if it functions. Thanks! :)
[08:21] <shadeslayer> brutus: oh my,are you sure its hung up and simply not taking a bit long to detect the device
[08:21] <mzz> luca__: good luck...
[08:21] <aspidites> whitevamp: since i've only tried wubi once ,and it was forever ago, no. sorry
[08:21] <luca__> mzz: thx
[08:21] <luca__> bye
[08:21] <Afin> cgfd
[08:21] <shadeslayer> brutus: lsusb works without the mouse?
[08:21] <jtan325> mzz: sweet, thanks.
[08:21] <brutus> shadeslayer, I'm guessing it hangs because ctrl-c doesn't stop it...and it takes too much time
[08:22] <jtan325> mzz: please keep the tips coming
[08:22] <KB1JWQ> brutus: I wouldn't necessarily expect ctrl-c to stop it if the kernel's what's hanging.
[08:22] <aspidites> whitevamp: cheap shot follows ---> leave it to windows to botch up something like installing an alternative os ;)
[08:22] <jtan325> mzz: any idea on disabling/hiding the quit/joined?
[08:22] <whitevamp> shadeslayer: yes craped out install of wubi
[08:22] <brutus> shadeslayer, yup...without mouse too
[08:22] <whitevamp> aspidites: ok thx
[08:22] <brutus> ActionParsnip, ERROR: Module usbhid is in use
[08:22] <mzz> jtan325: see "/help ignore", but I don't have the actual command memorized
[08:22] <KB1JWQ> jtan325: I usually just ignore it.  I've got a lot of irssi customizations that make it tolerable; run it in a screen session on a remote server.
[08:22] <shadeslayer> brutus: so it doesnt work without the mouse too,thats......very strange
[08:23] <brutus> shadeslayer, in face...usb drives don't work too for some reason
[08:23] <brutus> *fact
[08:23] <jtan325> the command is /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:23] <jtan325> (yay google)
[08:23] <mzz> jtan325: (I don't have them ignored by irssi, I just don't pay attention to them)
[08:23]  * ActionParsnip does the vm dance
[08:23] <shadeslayer> brutus: bad mobo maybe?
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> brutus: tried a different usb port?
[08:24] <mzz> jtan325: that sounds like it ignores nick changes, which I'd find confusing.
[08:24] <brutus> shadeslayer, shucks...I have a friend who has the exact same computer but has no problems...but the usb works on windows
[08:24] <jtan325> mzz: yea i didn't do the NICKS part
[08:24] <KB1JWQ> brutus: The mouse also works in Windows?
[08:24] <aspidites> hey guys, is it true that ubuntu switched to a new init script that apparently cuts down load time? if so, that could mean that usb devices aren't being reconized because the init process is happening too soon
[08:24] <mzz> just checking :)
[08:24] <brutus> ActionParsnip, nope...doesn't work in any of the 3 ports i have
[08:25] <shadeslayer> brutus: hmmm maybe then the drivers arent properly loaded
[08:25] <brutus> KB1JWQ, it works on windows...
[08:25] <brutus> shadeslayer, how do I find out?
[08:25] <shadeslayer> brutus: yeah im researching that
[08:25] <aspidites> brutus: lsmod | grep usb me thinks
[08:25] <jtan325> mzz: any other irssi tips?
[08:25] <jtan325> KB1JWQ: i'd love to see your config, if you don't mind
[08:26] <mzz> jtan325: remind me if it hilights lines including your nick by default? if not: /help hilight
[08:26] <jtan325> KB1JWQ: for learning
[08:26] <Krewl> good morning Ubuntu channel
[08:26] <aspidites> good morning Krewl
[08:26] <jtan325> mzz: ah yea i have that one in my config
[08:26] <shadeslayer> brutus: btw dmesg | tail does show the device i presume?
[08:26] <petronius> http://www.gangsters.pl/index.php?polec=5560
[08:26] <mzz> jtan325: other than that my own irssi's pretty close to stock, but irssi.org has tons of scripts that add features
[08:26] <aspidites> brutus: make sure you have usbcore loaded
[08:26]  * petronius http://www.gangsters.pl/index.php?polec=5560
[08:26] <brutus> aspidites, this is what I get: http://pastebin.com/m6db677b9
[08:27]  * mzz isn't very demanding, just wants it to run in screen (and remotely)
[08:27] <aspidites> brutus: damn. looks fine to me
[08:27] <brutus> shadeslayer, new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[08:27] <shadeslayer> brutus: what about the disk drives?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> brutus: try: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[08:28] <brutus> ActionParsnip, done...  Restarting Hardware abstraction layer hald                            [ OK ]
[08:28] <brutus> still not working
[08:28] <shadeslayer> brutus: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-309389.html
[08:28] <dronix> how can I add xchat to run at startup(after boot)?
[08:28] <shadeslayer> dronix: system > prefrences > startup
[08:28] <brutus> ActionParsnip, shadeslayer btw, if I restart the computer it works
[08:28] <indus> dronix: go to system>preferences>sessions
[08:28] <shadeslayer> brutus: wtf!!! really ?
[08:28] <dronix> shadeslayer, I did
[08:28] <shadeslayer> dronix: and?
[08:28] <aspidites> brutus: so it just stops randomly or what?
[08:29] <Ast001> Hi I tried to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 (amd64) and it wrongly calculate volume id and made my grub boot loader unbootable
[08:29] <tyler> I am on Ubuntu 8.1, and am having problems with Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, any tips?
[08:29] <Krewl_2> hm, xchat just disappeared
[08:29] <brutus> aspidites, it doesn't stop...when I plug it in it doesn't get detected, but on restarting the comp it works...I have to restart soemthing in /etc/init.d probably
[08:29] <shadeslayer> !ati | tyler
[08:29] <dronix> shadeslayer, I'm stuck on what command I should enter to make it run.
[08:29] <brutus> shadeslayer, yes...
[08:29] <ubuntumies> Q: i got my friends external fat32 usb drive, which automounts nicely under Ubuntu 9.04. But how can I change the permissions so I'm able to write and delete files on the disk, not only read?
[08:29] <threatrix> I have an external usb hardrive and when ever I start up ubuntu I have to pull the usb cord and re plug it in for ubuntu to read it but my other OS reads it fine. How would I go about getting it to mount itself in ubuntu so I dont have to mess with the USB
[08:29] <shadeslayer> dronix: xcaht
[08:30] <Ast001> I copied old menu.lst and I could boot in Ubuntu after that but it can not recognize my windows disk any more as well as my usb stick with fat32 filesystem
[08:30] <shadeslayer> dronix: *xchat
[08:30] <dronix> shadeslayer, oh * before it?
[08:30] <shadeslayer> dronix: no
[08:30] <aspidites> brutus: yeah, that's what it sounds like. painful, but you could try blacklisting modules incrementally to find out the culprit
[08:30] <dronix> oh lol, I already tried xchat, didn't work
[08:30] <jtan325> man, overall, ubuntu's come a long way since i used it back in 5.X
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> brutus: then there is a service that needs restarting or module that needs probing out and in
[08:30] <KB1JWQ> jtan325: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[08:30] <aspidites> ubuntumies: is it fat32?
[08:30] <tyler> shadeslayer: thank you, i have been there and thats what i am using for reference...I get to the point of installing the restriced driver manager, but it says i have the newest version, and when i go to check it in System-Admin its not there
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> brutus: sudo rmmod usbhid; sleep 3; sudo modprobe usbhid
[08:31] <brutus> ActionParsnip, how do I restart all usb related modules without restarting the machine
[08:31] <shadeslayer> brutus:did restarting hal do it?
[08:31] <jtan325> any recommendations for simple backup (besides rsync)?
[08:31] <rumpel2> Ast001, do you know, how your disc(s) are partitioned?
[08:31] <Ast001> yes I know
[08:31] <brutus> shadeslayer, nope...it just restarted fine but to no effect
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> brutus: usbhid = human interface d<something> which should be controlling the mouse
[08:31] <ubuntumies> aspidites: yes, it's fat32. i also tried "sudo nautilus" in terminal, but it didn't help either
[08:31] <aspidites> brutus: sudo modprobe -r usb* mabye? then modprobe them to put them back up
[08:31] <shadeslayer> tyler: so the drivers are activated?
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntumies: dont run nautilus with sudo, you'll get issues, use gksudo
[08:32] <aspidites> ubuntumies: you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab file
[08:32] <tyler> shadeslayer: no...i cant seem to get it to work
[08:32] <spacechicken> G'Day.  I am trying to run a perl script.  It gets to about 400Mb of memory before dying with the message "Killed".  Is there a setting I can change in Ubuntu to allow it to continue?
[08:32] <ubuntumies> ActionParsnip: ok, i will try that
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> ubuntumies: sudo is ONLY for cli apps like cp,apt-get, mv, touch
[08:32] <shadeslayer> tyler: so no green light in the restricted drivers ?? did you restart ??
[08:32] <ubuntumies> aspidites: is there any way to change the way Ubuntu automounts external usb drive?
[08:32] <KB1JWQ> spacechicken: reasonably certain that's a perl enviroment issue.  Try asking in #perl?
[08:33] <tyler> shadowslayer: Tried sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> ubuntumies: gksudo is for graphical apps like gedit, nautilus etc
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> brutus: better?
[08:33] <ubuntumies> ActionParsnip: that's new things for me, thanks for the advice! :)
[08:33] <spacechicken> KB1JWQ: will do.  Just trying to ascertain the cause.  Thanks
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> np man
[08:33] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip , brutus ,https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/36339
[08:34] <mzz> spacechicken: might want to check "ulimit -a", just in case
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: wow thats pretty hilarious
[08:34] <Ast001> here is my menu.lst which worket with 8.04 http://pastebin.com/m1d7eb90d
[08:34] <mzz> spacechicken: I'd expect the limits to be higher than that, but I could be wrong.
[08:34] <aspidites> ubuntumies: i don't know. i use archlinux. there, you change your hal and udev rules. i'm not sure of the ubuntuish userfriendly method to do this
[08:34] <Ast001> Problem is that 9.04 is not recognize my entire hard disk /dev/sdb
[08:34] <Ast001> there is no /dev/sdb anymore
[08:35] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: ??
[08:35] <aspidites> ubuntumies: i imagine the easiest thing would be to add the external drive to your fstab file
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> brutus: ok looks like you gotta sudo rmmod usbhid
[08:35] <platius> brutus;  is this a new hardware setup?  My gigabyte mb had the bios default of USB mouse support disabled.
[08:35] <tyler> shadowslayer: Keeps saying the package is the newest version...but when i look for it in the System-Admin it is not there
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> brutus: then plug in the mouse, then sudo modprobe usbhid
[08:35] <Ast001> and when I put usb stick /dev/sdc it can not recongize it too and 8.10 could
[08:35] <spacechicken> mzz - max memory size is unlimited
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> brutus: have the mouse OUT before you run the rmmod command
[08:36] <Petrus> aspidites, the irony is that the supposedly user friendly method ends up being far more difficult to use. ;)
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> brutus: out, rmmod, in, modprobe
[08:36] <aspidites> ubuntumies: something like /dev/hda7 /home/extra vfat noauto,rw,users,umask=000 0 0"
[08:36] <rumpel2> Ast001, check gparted for renamed partitions and adapt menu.st
[08:36] <ubuntumies> aspidites: that's one way to do it for sure, to edit the fstab file. i just thought there would be easy++ way to edit the automount options and let any additional usb fat32 drives to be mounted with 755 options or something.
[08:36] <aspidites> ubuntumies: something like "/dev/hda7 /home/extra vfat noauto,rw,users,umask=000 0 0" in your fstab should work. change /dev/hda7 accordingly
[08:37] <Ast001> I have checked with rescue CD every disk and partition is there.
[08:37] <ubuntumies> aspidites: thanks for the tip, i will try that! ;)
[08:37] <ubuntumies> brb
[08:37] <aspidites> ubuntumies: yeah, only way i know to allow linux to automount all external fat32 drives is by editing udev rules, sorry
[08:37]  * mzz prefers fmask=111,dmask=000 over umask=000, iirc
[08:37] <Ast001> I wonder why updater wrote wrong uuid to menu.lst during upgrade ?
[08:38] <aspidites> Petrus: I hear ya. thats why i don't trust anything that says user-friendly anymore :) i do most everyhting by hand and text config files
[08:39] <Ast001> anyway I don't need that proprietory spying software called windows... No big deal. Installer made me favour indeed.
[08:40] <indus> whats the difference between sudo and gksudo
[08:40] <indus> i never use gksudo
[08:40] <indus> !gksudo
[08:40] <Ast001> everything else works perfect
[08:41] <p45> hello
[08:41] <p45> where is everyone
[08:41] <shadeslayer> p45: here on earth
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: nice find on that bug duder
[08:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: i never use gksudo
[08:42] <jtan325> anyone got boxee running in 9.04?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> p45: I'm in #ubuntu and #kubuntu
[08:42] <indus> never had issues with it
[08:42] <Ast001> I just wanted to point to possible problem during upgrade.
[08:43] <aksci> my ubiquity's crashing during jaunty install
[08:43] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: no problem
[08:43] <aksci> ubiquity crashes during jaunty fresh install!!! anyone.>>??
[08:44] <shadeslayer> !repeat
[08:44] <indus> !patience
[08:44] <pragad7> how do i resume downloads in synaptic manager.
[08:44] <shadeslayer> pragad7: they resume automattically
[08:44] <indus> pragad7: Synaptic remembers  and resumes auto
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> aksci: did you md5 check the iso you downloaded as well as verify the cd was ok once burned?
[08:45] <indus> pragad7: it has a cache where it stores it
[08:47] <tyler> [00:37] <tyler> Package restricted-manager is a virtual package provided by:
[08:47] <tyler> [00:37] <tyler>   jockey-gtk 0.5~beta3-0ubuntu6.1
[08:47] <tyler> [00:37] <tyler> You should explicitly select one to install.
[08:47] <tyler> [00:37] <tyler> E: Package restricted-manager has no installation candidate
[08:47] <tyler> [00:38] <shadeslayer> umm didnt jockey work for you by default?
[08:47] <FloodBot2> tyler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <tyler> [00:38] <tyler> im new to linux so i really dont know what that is heh
[08:47] <shadeslayer> tyler: stop
[08:47] <shadeslayer> !pastebin > tyler
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> tyler: use pastebin
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> tyler: imagine if 10 people did that, the channel would be completly useless. think next time
[08:48] <indus> ActionParsnip: hi
[08:48] <shadeslayer> tyler: whats the model no. ??
[08:48] <mzz> (and don't forget about the 10 people telling each of those 10 people they're being annoying!)
[08:48] <tyler> X300
[08:48] <tyler> sorry guys...new to this stuff
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> tyler: ok as long as you learn
[08:49] <tyler> as with the paste bin...what do i do once ive created it...DL as text?
[08:49] <aspidites> you must learn young padawon
[08:49] <shadeslayer> tyler: full model no. please
[08:49] <shadeslayer> tyler: paste the link here
[08:49] <DASPRiD> aspidites, meow? :x
[08:50] <tyler> ATI MobilityRadeo X300
[08:50] <brutus> ActionParsnip, sorry for the late reply, but the rmmod command complains that the module is already in use
[08:50] <brutus> without the mouse plugged in
[08:50] <aspidites> DASPRiD: arf!
[08:50] <tyler> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164746/
[08:50] <tyler> just like that?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> tyler: you paste the text in the pastebin, hit paste, then give the address your browser then goes to...like you just did :)
[08:50] <tyler> ok
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> tyler: see how it doesnt scroll the channel like mad, but the info is still given
[08:50] <shadeslayer> tyler: Note that if you own an ATI card from the R400 series or below, you already have working 2D and may have accelerated 3D with the default drivers. These cards include:
[08:51] <shadeslayer> * R400 series Xnnn (X800, X700, etc) (3D works)
[08:51] <DASPRiD> aspidites, arf? woof?
[08:51] <aspidites> so what is restricted-manager? is that something ubuntu cooked up to manage proprietary packages or something?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> brutus: maybe it needs rmmd-ing while its in
[08:51] <aspidites> DASPRiD: moo
[08:51] <tyler> shadowslayer: so in other words its working fine?
[08:52] <aspidites> ActionParsnip: might be easier for him to rmmod if he exits X?
[08:52] <jony_boy> hello every1 i just reinstalled ubuntu properly this time and i was wondering if anyone knew some railway tocoon type of games
[08:52] <shadeslayer> tyler: yes
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> aspidites: i dont think that will help usb devices but it could help
[08:52] <aksci> ActionParsnip: sorry fr delayed reply, well i didn't do a md5 check, but checked the cd before booting into it to find its okay!
[08:52] <shadeslayer> tyler: i think that wiki stars that the X cards are natively supported
[08:52] <shadeslayer> *states
[08:52] <aspidites> jony_boy: openttd
[08:53] <Petrus> aspidites...Ubuntu rates its' packages on the basis of how happy Richard Stallman or the Debian community are likely to be with them
[08:53] <jony_boy>       cheers aspidites
[08:53] <aspidites> jony_boy: http://www.openttd.org/en/
[08:53] <jony_boy> thx agn
[08:53] <tyler> shadowslayer: Thank you all very much
[08:53] <Petrus> anything that isn't, "free as in autistic," gets labelled as such. ;)
[08:53] <shadeslayer> anyone who can confirm what im thinking?? that the X300 is natively supporte?
[08:53] <shadeslayer> tyler: one sec
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> aksci: its worth a check on the iso, always check the iso. if the iso is bad you can save yourself a cd
[08:53] <aspidites> Petrus: ah. f* that.
[08:53] <tyler> shadowslayer: ok
[08:53] <brutus> ActionParsnip, hmmm...this is frustrating...i have no usb device plugged in and it still says its in use
[08:54] <Petrus> aspidites, my sentiments exactly. ;)
[08:54] <shadeslayer> tyler: its shadeslayer
[08:54] <tyler> shadeslayer: ahh =D
[08:54] <shadeslayer> :P
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> brutus: i tink you will have to watch that bug and need to reboot to get it working
[08:54] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: any ideas??
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: not sure
[08:54] <shadeslayer> tyler: can you enable desktop effects??
[08:55] <aspidites> sooo....tiiiired....can't....leave...computer...must...sleep...don't want to.....
[08:55] <jony_boy> is openttd in the respository?
[08:55] <tyler> shadeslayer: ummmmm...no clue...sry
[08:55] <aspidites> jony_boy: i dunno.
[08:55] <shadeslayer> ActionParsnip: i think the wiki mentions that quite clearly,or am i interpreting it incorrectly?
[08:55] <jony_boy> im in windows can someone check for me?
[08:56] <shadeslayer> tyler: rt click on desktop > change background > visual effects
[08:56] <aspidites[not_an> jony_boy: no
[08:56] <shadeslayer> jony_boy: check what?
[08:56] <bazhang> jony_boy, its there
[08:56] <aspidits> shadeslayer: he wants to know if openttd is in ubuntu main repos
[08:56] <shadeslayer> ok
[08:56] <tyler> shadeslayer: Yes...it is on normal
[08:56] <brutus> ActionParsnip, even usb drives dont mount...and when I boot the comp with a usb drive plugged in it says Grub error 22 and hangs
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> aspidits: it is
[08:56] <shadeslayer> tyler: change it to extra
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> !info openttd
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> aspidits: you need the files to use with it though, it isnt a full game
[08:57] <shadeslayer> tyler: any errors?
[08:57] <tyler> no
[08:57] <shadeslayer> tyler: then youre good to go ;)
[08:57] <tyler> shadeslayer: again thank you
[08:57] <aspidits> ActionParsnip: aaah.
[08:58] <jony_boy> i auctlly own trasport tycoon so i can download the files
[08:58] <shadeslayer> tyler: no problem
[08:58] <aspidits> jony_boy: did you hear that? you need to actually by ttd in order for openttd to work
[08:58] <tyler> shadeslayer: take care
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> aspidits: its like prboom, you need the WAD files for it
[08:58] <aspidites> there..botched my own name :\
[08:58] <shadeslayer> tyler: you too mate ;)
[08:58] <shadeslayer> aspidites: haha
[08:58] <aspidites> ActionParsnip: yeah, i remember that. i wasn't looking for the game, jonboy was
[08:58] <aspidites> jony_boy: *
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> aspidites: if you own the original game you can copy the files it needs, or you can download freeware ones and populate as you lie
[08:59]  * shadeslayer wants his ring sensors to stop eating his CPU :(
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> aspidites: i have the original on floppy :)
[08:59] <aspidites> ActionParsnip: cool. not my kind of game, so i won't bother :P
[08:59] <aspidites> wow..that old, ActionParsnip?
[08:59] <aprilhare> yay for floppy disks
[09:00] <aspidites> i miss the 5.25" ones...those were the shiz
[09:00] <bazhang> !ot
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> aspidites: yeah its faily old, there have been revisions since
[09:00] <bazhang> please take game chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[09:00] <aspidites> bazhang: a user was asking if a certain kind of game was in the repos
[09:01] <jony_boy> well cheers everyone im gna go thx for the help about openttd
[09:01] <aspidites> funny how linux game chat gets referred to offtopic, but we can talk about goverments ontrolling the state of unix derivatives for 10 minutes without such requests
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> aspidites: its the discussion of the fact its on floppys and opinions of the game etc
[09:02] <aspidites> ActionParsnip: i see.
[09:02] <aspidites> so either people are finally going to sleep/work/school or everyone in the world learned how to use linux/ubuntu at once
[09:03] <shadeslayer> aspidites: i have a problem
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> aspidites: i'm at work now
[09:03] <corpsicle> im at work AND i know how to use ubuntu
[09:03] <shadeslayer> aspidites: mic volume is too low,cant get mic boost to work,any ideas?
[09:03] <aspidites> shadeslayer: not meaning to insult your intelligence: did you check alsamixer?
[09:04] <user___> ghanshyam
[09:04] <shadeslayer> aspidites: yes,;)
[09:04] <aspidites> shadeslayer: how about with the -c option? .. i think its -c
[09:04] <shadeslayer> aspidites: everything is set to high :)
[09:04] <ghanshyam> hi
[09:04] <shadeslayer> aspidites: dont know how to use -c
[09:04] <ghanshyam> i have getting problem while open Terminal..
[09:05] <ghanshyam> i m getting following error "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[09:05] <ghanshyam> how can i solve this problem
[09:06] <aspidites> shadeslayer: alsamixer -c 0
[09:06] <aspidites> shadeslayer: then try with a one. wait..doesn't ubuntu use pulseaudio?
[09:06] <Gnea> shadeslayer: -c #  refers to the soundcard number, as referenced by alsa in /proc/asound/cards
[09:06] <shadeslayer> aspidites: same thing
[09:06] <eNons3nse> Quick questions guys.  Ever since the update the new version of Braserio has been in my updater but it wont let me update it.  What's the problem here?
[09:07] <aspidites> eNons3nse: what error is given when you try to update?
[09:07] <shadeslayer> Gnea: i see all this talk of mic gain or mic boost in the forums,cant seem to enable it
[09:07] <aspidites> eNons3nse: have you tried updating from the command line?
[09:07] <Gnea> alsamixer will, as long as the settings for the system prefer pulseaudio, default to the pulseaudio mixer device when used without argument
[09:08] <aspidites> shadeslayer: i know when i had mic issues, installing audacity and using it's config panel helped me diagnose the issue
[09:08] <Gnea> shadeslayer: it's usually a switch in the mixer, 1 or 0
[09:09] <shadeslayer> aspidites: i have audacity,i use it,i can hear my voice after amplifying it,but its very low before proper amplification
[09:10] <Gnea> shadeslayer: for instance, i use alsamixer -c 0  to access my soundcard mixer directly, bypassing the pulseaudio mixer, and i can dis/en/able the mic boost by selecting the 'Mic Boost' and then simply unmuting it
[09:10] <Gnea> shadeslayer: of course, next to that, is the 'Mic' volume itself
[09:10] <aspidites> Gnea: so ubuntu doesn't operate like this by default?
[09:10] <shadeslayer> Gnea: thats the problem i cant see micboost as a option
[09:10] <Gnea> shadeslayer: what soundcard do you have?
[09:11] <aspidites> shadeslayer: did you go to the other tabs in alsamixer? the one named "All"?
[09:11] <shadeslayer> Gnea: ICH8 intel HDA
[09:11] <hmw> shadeslayer Gnea: some sound cards seem not to have this boost option, and i suspect, that it wont be listed, if that is the case...?
[09:11] <shadeslayer> aspidites: yes
[09:11] <Gnea> aspidites: it's a weird workaround
[09:11] <eNons3nse> ok.  I was able to update it with apt.
[09:11] <Gnea> hmw: it's possible
[09:11] <shadeslayer> ill brb
[09:12] <aspidites> Gnea: would software mixing allow some sort of mic boosting? ie dmix or the like?
[09:12] <hmw> Gnea shadeslayer: you could maybe check, if this option is there in the windows mixer
[09:12] <eNons3nse> so I have 1 more question.  there's a new notification system now right?  i don't think i've seen any.  what's an action i can do to make one of these notifications appear?
[09:12] <shadeslayer> hmw: no such option in windows
[09:12] <axion> Hello, I have been having problems printing to my printserver, I keep having to convert the printfile to postscript 2 on the server and then print
[09:13] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: play a mp3
[09:13] <eNons3nse> in rhythmbox?
[09:13] <hmw> shadeslayer: i didnt follow your whole comversation... do you get at least something from the mike, or is it 100% silent?
[09:13] <shadeslayer> hmw: i get *very* little sound
[09:13] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: yes
[09:13] <Gnea> shadeslayer: have you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928363
[09:14] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: nothing comes up
[09:14] <Gnea> aspidites: i'm not sure, tbph, i only set it up minimalistically
[09:14] <creative83> re
[09:14] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: what's something else?
[09:14] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: IM
[09:14] <Gnea> hmw: it might be there, just not enabled/selected
[09:15] <aspidites> Gnea: just figured it might be an option for him, and i figured you'd be the one to best describe the steps to use it, since you are both in ubuntu
[09:15] <Gnea> hmw, aspidites: if the soundcard itself has a MIC input, then it's going to have some sort of control for it
[09:15] <hmw> shadeslayer: ic. I am not a sound expert, especially not under linux *G*, but I see some options: You could get a new sound card or a better (active) microphone, or you could patch the mike through your Home Stereo for having a normal 5V line in signal, which you can record on your PC
[09:15] <creative83> Hey everybody. Is this bug going to be fixed in 2.6.28 soon? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/346691/ Because whole systems aren't working. And I can't switch to 2.6.29 due to dkms messing with my ati driver.
[09:15] <ikonia> creative83: the bug report will tell you it's progress, much better than someone in this channel
[09:16] <Gnea> creative83: it will be fixed when it gets fixed.
[09:16] <aspidites> Gnea: you can see the future? :)
[09:16] <AdvoWork> hi there, do you know where you login and type a username, can i rename them at all?
[09:17] <aspidites> Gnea: read my palms :)
[09:17] <Gnea> or do what I do: if all else fails, stick with stability ;)
[09:17] <Gnea> aspidites: lol
[09:17] <hmw> Gnea: maybe with Linux this is so, but I've seen many sound cards with no option to increase mike volume on windows. Any idea, how to find out, how to tweak it, if even the original software wont allow it?
[09:17] <shadeslayer> Gnea: i have everything in recording enabled and set to 100 pc,still low record volume
[09:17] <axion> Hello...
[09:17] <hmw> shadeslayer: what software are you using for recording?
[09:17] <Gnea> hmw: well, sometimes there are mixer options in the software mixer itself that are disabled by default
[09:17] <aspidites> hmw: audacity
[09:18] <Gnea> hmw: IOW, they're there, they're just not visible to the user right away
[09:18] <shadeslayer> hmw: sound recorder,audacity
[09:18] <hmw> Gnea: ic.
[09:18] <Gnea> shadeslayer: did you check that link?
[09:18]  * aspidites wishes he knew more about pc audio
[09:18] <shadeslayer> hmw: i have to go for now,ill be back in 30 min
[09:18] <shadeslayer> Gnea: ues
[09:19] <shadeslayer> *yes
[09:19] <Gnea> shadeslayer: reply #6 seemed to alude to the possibility of hidden functionality
[09:19] <shadeslayer> Gnea: i have everything in recording set  to 100 pc
[09:20] <Gnea> shadeslayer: k, the mic boost doesn't have a scale, it's just an on/off thing... perhaps it can be found in preferences and then switching tabs?
[09:20] <aspidites> shadeslayer: long shot, but try voice chat software. see if its just recording, or any mic activity that has low output
[09:20] <shadeslayer> Gnea: everything enabled there too,no go
[09:20] <aspidites> shadeslayer: skype has a built in mic test
[09:20] <shadeslayer> aspidites: same problem with skype
[09:20] <Gnea> shadeslayer: maybe the mic cord has a kink in it?
[09:20] <aspidites> shadeslayer: damn
[09:21] <shadeslayer> Gnea: in built,works fine in MS
[09:21] <aspidites> shadeslayer: maybe you're just a low-talker and don't know it...like that seinfield episode :)
[09:21] <Gnea> shadeslayer: hrm, in MS, does it give the boost option or does it all 'just work' like normal?
[09:22] <shadeslayer> Gnea: just work
[09:22] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: got disconnected.  looks like i don't have this notification system or it's turned off.  is there settings somewhere i can look at?
[09:22] <shadeslayer> Gnea: http://imagebin.org/47900
[09:22] <AdvoWork> Is it possible to fully rename a login user account on ubuntu? I cant find much on it
[09:22] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: try lowering you brightness or volume
[09:22] <Gnea> shadeslayer: shadeslayer nice. it's not in the switches tab?
[09:22] <aspidites> shadeslayer: have you tried the console alsamixer?
[09:23] <shadeslayer> Gnea: no :)
[09:23] <aspidites> or just the gnome-alsamixer?
[09:23] <Gnea> ...
[09:23] <shadeslayer> aspidites: yes
[09:23] <aspidites> btw, the knew dust theme for ubuntu is pretty sharp
[09:23] <shadeslayer> yeah
[09:23] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: nothing
[09:24]  * DASPRiD purrs at aspidites 
[09:24] <aspidites> new*
[09:24] <g00dspeed> hello)
[09:25] <aspidites> well, you could always just yell really loud into the mic to produce normal levels
[09:25] <majlap> pulseaudio running but not getting sound in jaunty
[09:25] <aspidites> :)
[09:25] <etsm> i'm a beginner in linux platform. I have installed amp in ubuntu 9.04 but php and apache does not work. How do i solve this?
[09:25] <aspidites> sorry, i make stupid jokes when i'm frustrated and can't offer any useful advice
[09:25] <g00dspeed> Who can help with Wine and Visual Studio?
[09:26] <DawnLight> dear friends,
[09:26] <aspidites> g00dspeed: do you *need* visual studio? better question: *why* do you need visuaal studio?
[09:26] <karol^> hi, my dual screen stopped working after recent update (jaunty intel 965) it's 2x 1920x1200, I cannot get it back on, can anyone help?
[09:26] <majlap> HELP got pulseaudio running but not getting sound in jaunty
[09:26] <Name141> Hello, I have had a problem since Intrepid with ubuntu.   My NIC doesn't seem to want to work after Hardy properly.  The router light just flashes where it is hooked up , any ideas on what to do?  I tried downloading the Intel linux drivers, but it doesn't do any good.  If you want, you can read up at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22333666-Networking-Linux-support-Networking-error , any ideas on what to do next?
[09:27] <Name141> and for the record this also happens in Fedora10
[09:27] <aspidites> g00dspeed: i'm only asking because i doubt there is anyone here who can help you with wine. #winehq would be a better option for that
[09:27] <DASPRiD> karol^, using nvidia or ati?
[09:27] <DASPRiD> karol^, and, hi ;)
[09:27] <karol^> hi, intel 965
[09:27] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: found a forum post.  looks like notify-osd wasn't even installed.  shouldn't that have happened when i upgraded the OS?
[09:27] <jtan325_> karol^: i JUST got dual-screen working again tonight.
[09:27] <DASPRiD> karol^, whoops, didn't read that
[09:27] <g00dspeed> aspidites ok, thanx
[09:27] <karol^> there was some update defaulting virtual resolution to 2048
[09:27] <DawnLight> dear friends, in jaunty, the libpam-smbpass isn't doing what it is supposed to. OR i don't understand what its supposed to. does installing it mean that i don't have to run smbpasswd <user> on all my users?
[09:27] <axion> nvm the problem is in using the official ppd file... should just install the generic postscript 2 ppd
[09:28] <jtan325_> karol^: what i had to do was use xrandr to figure out the device name (as dictated by the driver)
[09:28] <jtan325_> then set up my xorg.conf appropriate
[09:28] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: yes it should have installed by default
[09:28] <karol^> jtan325_: I get an error from xandr that my resolution cannot be more than 2048
[09:29] <jtan325_> karol^: this really helped me. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[09:29] <karol^> jtan325_: is yours >2048?
[09:29] <aspidites> well guys/gals, i think i'm finally headed to bed
[09:29] <jtan325_> karol^: yes, it's two 1680x1050 monitors.
[09:29] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: i updated through the update manager rather than a fresh CD install.  i wonder if there was a problem with it.
[09:29] <DASPRiD> karol^, i'm running two 2560x1600, but well, nvidia not intel
[09:29] <stjepan> I can't change wallpapers, themes, icons, anything without relogging in or rebooting. Any idea what may be wrong? :(
[09:30] <stjepan> ( I'm using gnome on Jaunty )
[09:30] <aspidites> stjepan: nautilus daemon maybe malfunctioning?
[09:30] <stjepan> how to fix it?
[09:30] <aspidites> or gnome-setting-daemon
[09:30] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: maybe tha package was not downloaded
[09:30] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: !info notify-osd
[09:31] <stjepan> aspidites: looks like gnome-settings-daemon is running
[09:31] <shadeslayer> !info notify-osd
[09:31] <aspidites> stjepan: thats the part i don't know... try running from command line to see what error is returned if anny
[09:31] <robin0800> aspidites: Perhaps the X server is crashing?
[09:31] <eNons3nse> makes me wonder what else i'm missing
[09:31] <aspidites> robin0800: if that were the case, gnome wouldn't run at all
[09:31] <stjepan> aspidites: no errors :-/
[09:31] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: you could manually install that package ;)
[09:32] <stjepan> and still doesn't work
[09:32] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: i just did
[09:32] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: works now?
[09:32] <aspidites> stjepan: what if you log into safe mode and run gnome manually?
[09:32] <AdvoWork> can i use this command to rename a login account? usermod -l login-name old-name
[09:32] <shadeslayer> that is exactly the reason i use a update CD ;)
[09:32] <aspidites> stjepan: that way you can monitor output for anything strange
[09:33] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: no.  do i need to restart my WM?
[09:33] <stjepan> I'll try
[09:33] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: yeah
[09:33] <aspidites> stjepan: don'tremember the command though. gnome or gnome-session i think.
[09:33] <petrolman> Hi, my terminal is set to charset utf-8 by default. When connecting to a server which charset is set to ISO-8859-15 I cant see the german umlauts. I do have to set my terminal to ISO-8859-15. Why? I thought utf-8 can interpret all chars?
[09:34] <aspidites> petrolman: you need a unicode capable terminal
[09:34] <Phantom784> i installed ubuntu 9.04 on my eee pc 701, restarted it once, and now it's starting in low graphics mode.  i tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and it didn't help.  any ideas?
[09:34] <aspidites> petrolman: off the top of my head, that includes urxvt, roxterm, sakura, and a couple of others. not sure if gnome-terminal is unicode.
[09:34] <shadeslayer> g00dspeed: seen to much of " The Rock " lately?? ;)
[09:35] <aspidites> petrolman: also make sure your locale is set correctly
[09:35] <aspidites> !locale
[09:35] <g00dspeed> g00dspeed yea)
[09:35] <g00dspeed> shadeslayer yes)
[09:35] <petrolman> ok, thanks aspidites
[09:35] <aspidites> bita
[09:35] <aspidites> (don't know now to spell that, sorry, lol )
[09:36] <g00dspeed> aspidites: all are dead in #winehq
[09:36] <jtan325_> aspidites: check out urxvt for unicode support
[09:36] <aspidites> jtan325_: i use it already, and already recommended it :)
[09:36] <aspidites> jtan325_: actualy, i'm using it rigt now 보찌?
[09:36] <aspidites> :)
[09:37] <azlon> !usb
[09:38] <shadeslayer> hmm so quiet,i can hear the quits and joins ;)
[09:38] <aspidites> yeah. i meant to quit about half an hour ago :\
[09:38] <shadeslayer> aspidites: lag?? :P
[09:38] <paolo> Hi guys! I'm launching epiphany from remote with "ssh -X server epiphany", but it the forms it doesn't show the known fields it shows when run locally. Is this a bug?
[09:39] <aspidites> shadeslayer: you can call it that :). every time i get ready to leave i see someone else i can help. or try to help :\
[09:39] <shadeslayer> !epiphany
[09:39] <aspidites> !ssh
[09:39] <shadeslayer> aspidites: hehe
[09:40] <aspidites> ok, i'm gone for real this time
[09:40] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: it's installed now.  but it's still not working.
[09:40] <aspidites> unless...3....2....1...ok, bye all
[09:40] <g00dspeed> is there any Ubuntu RU irc?
[09:40] <shadeslayer> if not ill ask the ops to kick you :P
[09:40] <aspidites> shadeslayer: lol ok, ok
[09:40] <shadeslayer> !ru
[09:40] <laba> hi
[09:41] <g00dspeed> thnx
[09:41] <hmw> paolo: "run locally"? uhm. Do you want your local prefs working in the remote session or do you mean the "local" settings on the remote server?
[09:41] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: can you see the daemon in sys monitor?
[09:41] <laba> using the cursor keys in insert mode in vi always breaks out to the command mode... how can I prevent?
[09:42] <paolo> hmw, I want epiphany have access to its stored passwords when run remotely.
[09:42] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: yeah.  says it's sleeping.
[09:42] <hmw> laba: install vim - use synaptics and look at the descriptions for the right package
[09:42] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: are you on a laptop or desktop?
[09:42] <eNons3nse> desktop
[09:42] <DawnLight> can someone take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+question/70002 ?
[09:42] <paolo> everything is ok when running epiphany remotely with ssh, exectp password and other form fields access
[09:43] <karol^> anyone knows how to force > 2048 resolution on intel 965 after recent update?
[09:43] <hmw> paolo: as i understand it, the program runs on the server, but is displayed on the local computer, so it *should* be able to access the settings stored on the machin it acutally runs on. strange...
[09:43] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: ok get someone to im you on pidgin
[09:44] <shadeslayer> karol^: maybe editing xorg.conf,not sure about it tho
[09:44] <connex> what is wrong here: while [ sudo kill -USR1 16930 > stat.txt ] ; do sleep 5; done;
[09:44] <karol^> shadeslayer: yes but edit how, I already added  Virtual 3840 1200, it has no effect
[09:45] <jtan325_> connex: should it be >> instead of > ?
[09:45] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: haha.  i'm trying, but it's almost 4am
[09:45] <jtan325_> connex: nvm
[09:45] <paolo> hmw, you can run every guy program remotely if you have ssh server installed on the server (which is not the default) with "ssh -X server program" from the client, and everything is fine, execpt access to personal data
[09:45] <stjepan> I'm back.... interestingly, I can change backgrounds and themes after killing and restarting nautilus, but I still can't change icons
[09:45] <connex> while  sudo kill -USR1 16930 > stat.txt  ; do sleep 5; done; should be no [ ]
[09:45] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: lol,how about playing a mp3
[09:46] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: you could use the IRC too,with pidgin
[09:46] <hmw> paolo: maybe using a program remotely gets the program run in a different user context?
[09:47] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: i know.  i just don't have this room set up
[09:47] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: nothing happens with mp3s
[09:47] <MilkyWhite> !kjournald
[09:47] <hmw> paolo: should be easy to check: can you store a new password in remote-epiphany?
[09:48] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: nothing in the top right corner?? like new notification showing which song plays
[09:48] <eNons3nse> no
[09:49] <lundh> I have a software raid set up from before and I want to install ubuntu on it but the installer seems to detect iw wrong. any idea why?
[09:49] <eNons3nse> is compiz going to mess it up?  do i need to turn it off?
[09:49] <a750mhzslinky> Hello, I can't get vlc to bind to udp port 1022 and I have tried 'sudo vlc-wrapper' , authbind and messing with kernel capabilities with no luck, anyone have a clue what is blocking vlc from binding to that port?
[09:49] <shadeslayer> no it works fine/better with compiz
[09:50] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: can you change the song with a keybinding?
[09:51] <eNons3nse> what is the key?
[09:51] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: i have a multi media bar at the top
[09:52]  * shadeslayer listens to Bryan adams
[09:52] <eNons3nse> i have one in my AWN bar.  it doesn't do it.  also doesn't show anything when i change it by right clicking on the notification panel icon.
[09:53] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: i mean like meta+arrow key
[09:54] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: check the keyboard shortcuts
[09:54] <World_Citizen09> hi can someone help me with setting email size while receiving mails in evolution please
[09:54] <eNons3nse> hmmm.  it may be working now
[09:54] <walli1> hi,what do you all know about virtual midi keyboard
[09:56] <shadeslayer> walli1: whats that ?? :)
[09:56] <iBurger> Hi all. I think I just did a system upgrade, but gnome broke. 8.04. I'm gonna revert to my previous installation and stop automatic upgrades. >> am I stupid :) ?
[09:56] <World_Citizen09> can some one help me in setting up evolution email receiving size
[09:57] <walli1> MUSICK
[09:57] <eNons3nse> shadeslayer: thanks
[09:57] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: no problem
[09:57] <eNons3nse> i've been having more problems since the upgrade as well.
[09:58] <eNons3nse> my sound drops out sometimes.  it wont come back till i restart the computer.  that's never happened before.
[09:58] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: such as??
[09:58] <shadeslayer> eNons3nse: seen the wiki?
[09:58] <shadeslayer> !sound > eNons3nse
[09:58] <eNons3nse> no
[10:00] <michael_> i just installed ubuntu and now my harddrives are locked
[10:00] <shadeslayer> michael_: locked?
[10:00] <michael_> and i tried all my passwords, nothing works :(
[10:00] <shadeslayer> michael_: bios lock?
[10:01] <michael_> shadeslayer, as soon as i boot up, yes... i can access the bios.. it's odd..
[10:01] <michael_> shadeslayer, i have a dual boot with xp
[10:01] <shadeslayer> michael_: can you change the passworrds?
[10:01] <shadeslayer> *passwords
[10:01] <ziroday> michael_: what do you mean by your hard drives are locked?
[10:01] <michael_> shadeslayer, i can access the one xp harddrive, from bios i changed the password.. but then there is ANOTHER password (exact same screen, different hard drive (i'm assuming that's the ubuntu one)
[10:02] <michael_> shadeslayer, after xp install there was no password, only after ubuntu install
[10:02] <shadeslayer> weird....
[10:02] <michael_> ziroday, after i startup computer, nothing loads but a white screen and black text, asking for a password
[10:03] <ziroday> michael_: did you encrypt your hard drives when installing?
[10:03] <shadeslayer> ziroday: bios lock
[10:03] <michael_> ziroday, gives me harddrive 'serial' number, and says it's locked
[10:03] <Cyclops> test
[10:03] <shadeslayer> or that
[10:03] <michael_> ziroday, not that i remember, but i tried the only password i put in
[10:04] <ziroday> michael_: err right, well you can reset your bios by pulling out the battery on the CMOS. Anyway this isn't an ubuntu problem and this is probably not the best place to ask :)
[10:04] <Cyclops> This is my first time using IRC chat, really good ah!
[10:04] <michael_> ziroday, it only happened after installing ubuntu (dual boot with xp!)
[10:04] <shadeslayer> ziroday: hehe thats going to take some time :P
[10:04] <michael_> ziroday, there's no base 'admin' hard disk password?
[10:05] <michael_> ziroday, for ubuntu?
[10:05] <dingdongding> anyone have soundcard problem after upgraded to jaunty with compaq presario CQ40?
[10:05] <ziroday> michael_: how did you install ubuntu? And the base 'admin' password is you're users password
[10:05] <michael_> anyone know if there's a 'base' admin password for harddisk when installing ubuntu?
[10:05] <duryodhan> michael_: no
[10:05] <michael_> ziroday, tried it.  installed it after xp by clicking 'install' on the live cd
[10:06] <ziroday> michael_: wait, so you installed it _in_ XP, or by rebooting _into_ the livecd?
[10:06] <duryodhan> ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[10:06] <shadeslayer> duryodhan: /
[10:07] <michael_> ziroday, by rebooting into live cd
[10:07] <ziroday> michael_: i.e. did you use wubi, or a real ubuntu install?
[10:07] <Cyclops> are you chinese?
[10:07] <michael_> ziroday, real
[10:07] <ziroday> michael_: okay, well you can't have set a hard drive password with the livecd, that option is only on the alternate one. Can you take a picture of the error and upload it somewhere?
[10:07] <MidnightDevil> hello fellas :)
[10:07] <ziroday> !imagebin | michael_ such as here
[10:07] <ziroday> !cn | Cyclops
[10:08] <lundh> I installed ubuntu without a swap parition. how do I add it later on?
[10:08] <ziroday> lundh: do you have space on your hard drive still?
[10:08] <lundh> yes
[10:08] <Cyclops> ÌìÄÄÃ»ÏëÕâÀï¿ÉÒÔÓÃÖÐÎÄ°¡
[10:08] <ziroday> lundh: okay, well set the space to swap, add it to /etc/fstab and reboot or do swapon -a
[10:08] <lundh> thanks
[10:08] <michael_> ziroday, negative, i can't even get onto the machine ;)  only option i have is to boot the xp disk and try it all again!
[10:08] <ziroday> Cyclops: english _only_
[10:08] <lundh> that was easy :)
[10:09] <ziroday> lundh: if you're not sure about anything feel free to ask :)
[10:09] <ziroday> michael_: so you can get into windows?
[10:09] <michael_> ziroday, there are two hardisks, the one i set the password for via the bios... the second i don't know how to get into
[10:09] <michael_> ziroday, actually no... it says "no bootable drive"  but i can boot from cd
[10:09] <qiyong> i'm making a pkg. in order to install /usr/bin/foo, i need to have ./BUILD/usr/bin/foo and run dpkg -b ./BUILD ?
[10:09] <qiyong> i'm making a pkg. in order to install /usr/bin/foo, i need to have ./BUILD/usr/bin/foo and run dpkg -b ./BUILD ?
[10:09] <lundh> ziroday: thanks, I think that was answer enough :)
[10:09] <michael_> ziroday, i must have made a mistake when installing ubuntu
[10:09] <ziroday> michael_: okay, and this leads us all back to it being a bios fault :)
[10:10] <dingdongding>  anyone have soundcard problem after upgraded to jaunty with compaq presario CQ40?
[10:10] <michael_> ziroday, it didn't give me an option to partition the disks with the slider thingy (know what i mean)
[10:10] <ziroday> michael_: ubuntu does _not_ have that option to "lock" your hard drive unless you are using the alternate cd and that is via encryption
[10:10] <michael_> ziroday, so i chose the "use largest unused space thing"
[10:10] <ziroday> michael_: mmhm
[10:10] <michael_> ziroday, but the lock only happened after ubuntu install O_o  lol
[10:10] <ziroday> qiyong: ask in #ubuntu-motu
[10:10] <Cyclops> My English is very poor, Is there any IRC channel Chinese ah?
[10:10] <ziroday> !cn | Cyclops
[10:10] <lundh> while on the subject, what kind of encryption is used on the aternative cd?
[10:11] <ziroday> Cyclops: xie /join #ubuntu-cn
[10:11] <ziroday> lundh: strong :)
[10:11] <lundh> ziroday: what system is used?
[10:11] <ziroday> lundh: err I used to know this, let me try dig it up
[10:12] <ziroday> lundh: LUKS with an encrypted LVM partition
[10:12] <shadeslayer> lundh: encryption which the FBI uses ;)
[10:13] <lundh> ok, thanks :)
[10:13] <ziroday> lundh: encryption wise I have a feeling its 256bit RSA but I am very likely to be wrong
[10:13] <shadeslayer> !encrypt
[10:13] <shadeslayer> !encryptfd
[10:14] <shadeslayer> !encrypt-fs
[10:14] <lundh> eek, the installation failed, have to fix it :/
[10:14] <ziroday> !msgthebot > shadeslayer
[10:14] <shadeslayer> ziroday: started it already ;)
[10:14] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!
[10:15] <shadeslayer> !hi | chocobanana
[10:15] <blue-frog> lundh: ecryptfs is used in Jaunty (but enabled by default yet)
[10:15] <chocobanana> shadeslayer: thanks :)
[10:17] <shadeslayer> lundh: if your nick is read in hindi it would be considered abusive ;)
[10:19] <Mud|afk> hi guys
[10:19] <Mud|afk> who can help me with ufw ?
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: yes?
[10:19] <Mud|afk> I want to redirect port 80 traffic to a proxy
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: i know the absoulte basics through gufw :)
[10:19] <chocobanana> I have this weird thing going on with 9.04. Whenever I start my computer, networkmanager supposedly connects to my wireless network. However, it won't be able to load any webpages. If access the router configuration page, it goes to a totally different router configuration page, unknown to me. If I fire up the network manager list again and click my network, then it reconnects and it works. If I repeat this, it will take me to the unknown
[10:20] <Mud|afk> when I do this command : ufw allow proto udp 10.35.39.39 port 80 to 10.200.27.5 port 8080
[10:20] <Mud|afk> its gives a error
[10:20] <chocobanana> sorry for the long post
[10:20] <Mud|afk> error404notfound: Wrong number of arguments
[10:20] <shadeslayer> tried the man pages?
[10:20] <Mud|afk> yes
[10:21] <Mechdave> chocobanana, do you happen to have 2 different networks with the same ESSID?
[10:21] <ziroday> chocobanana: try remove all the settings in "Edit Connections" and then restart and try again
[10:21] <linny> anyone ever had problems with braseo not fixating disks it seems only to happen with cds as far as i can tell the cds burnt ok its just this 'fixating' what does fixating mean anyways ?
[10:21] <pulzer> Hello. I been dualbooting vista as my "backup" for certain programs that wouldnt smoothly with Wine, but now thinking of replacing Vista with Windows7RC. I am guessing Win7 install will place its own boot manager instead of grub. Anyone know if guides online for getting grub back with Vista-dual works for Win7 too?
[10:22] <chocobanana> Mechdave: I thought about that and no, I haven't 2 SSIDs. The unknown router configuration page is also from a router I do not own
[10:22] <chocobanana> ziroday: already tried that.... :(
[10:22] <shadeslayer> !grub > pulzer
[10:22] <ziroday> chocobanana: well there goes my idea sorry :)
[10:22] <chocobanana> ziroday: thanks anyway!:)
[10:22] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: no idea
[10:22] <umar> how can i use keyboard to move my mouse. i am tired of using my mouse!
[10:23] <pulzer> sorry for being a cunt but did you even read my question shadeslayer?
[10:23] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: try googling
[10:23] <Mechdave> chocobanana, that is what made me think someone could have the same SSID as you have configured, what happens if you change your SSID to something completly different
[10:23] <shadeslayer> pulzer: yes,if you carefully read the wiki your question will be answered
[10:23] <Drikan> hello all Looking for some one familiar with Gnome
[10:23] <Drikan> and the x11 system
[10:24] <linny> Drikan: your in the right place ask your question
[10:24] <shadeslayer> Drikan: just ask :)
[10:24] <chillitom> or irc.gnome.org might be better
[10:24] <Mud|afk> shadeslayer already done :s
[10:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: thanks
[10:24] <chocobanana> Mechdave: haven't tried that yet but that also occured to me... The thing is that I have various computers around, including another machine running 9.04 w/ wireless without any issues whatsoever...
[10:25] <adac> Currently running ubuntu from usb stick. Unfortunately programs hang from time to time. Is this because of the usb2.0 device or can I do something to speed things up?
[10:25] <Drikan> ok in win xp and an old copy of redhat 7.3 my x enviorment looked just fine but in ubuntu 1/2 of the screen looks as thow i have a memory issue
[10:25] <shadeslayer> adac: probably the stick,low read write speeds
[10:26] <Drikan> the colors dont quite display correct ly on the lower 1/2 of the screen the video card i have is a silicon motion
[10:26] <chocobanana> Mechdave: and it only started happening yesterday. I've been running 9.04 since the RC without any wireless issues...
[10:26] <Drikan> now im pretty sure the red hat was using a basic generic driver for it
[10:27] <Mechdave> chocobanana, that is strange, how many wireless networks does the network applet show you?
[10:27] <michael_> AH!  i royally messed up my system while installing ubuntu... nothing i run can recognize my disks... :(  anyone know what irc channel i should go to for help?
[10:27] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall too?
[10:27] <michael_> ie - im in the live ubuntu cd again, and the partitioner doesn't see anything
[10:28] <Drikan> but i think ubuntu is using the wrong driver for my video card
[10:28] <Drikan> its running on an old Gateway laptop solo1150
[10:28] <shadeslayer> michael_: the partition table got corrupted maybe,i had the same problem,had to make a new table
[10:28] <chocobanana> Mechdave: around 10, including 2 or 3 unprotected. I suspect that for some reason it connects to one of the unprotected networks and it makes the connection under mine's name...
[10:29] <Mechdave> chocobanana, do you have security on yours?
[10:29] <michael_> shadeslayer, i can't even get there.. nothing is showing and no options are clickable
[10:29] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: sudo ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.0.2 to any port 22
[10:29] <chocobanana> Mechdave: yes
[10:29] <Mechdave> michael_, if you go into BIOS and select autodetect hard drives does it show you the ones installed?
[10:29] <Mud|afk> hmm
[10:29] <shadeslayer> michael_: um can you boot the live cd?
[10:30] <michael_> shadeslayer, yes
[10:30] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: from here https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[10:30] <Drikan> so how do i see what x11 is using and how do i see a list of like drivers that i can switch X11 to
[10:30] <Drikan> ?
[10:30] <Mud|afk> I am reading now shadeslayer that ufw is only for incomming traffic
[10:30] <Mechdave> chocobanana, I have never heard that happening before
[10:30] <michael_> Mechdave, im trying to run the onboard diagnostics now... i didn't see autodetect but i'll try it
[10:30] <Mud|afk> I want to redirect traffic :o
[10:30] <shadeslayer> michael_: so the HD is not even detected as in live cd shows no HD's ?
[10:30] <Drikan> ive used linux before but its been a few years
[10:30] <michael_> Mechdave, but in the diagnostics it already said "no hard drives detected" :( :(
[10:30] <michael_> shadeslayer, exactly :(
[10:31] <chocobanana> Mechdave: oh wait... I'm looking at my resolv.conf file and it's directing to a specific domain name...
[10:31] <Lovis> hey, i'm looking for a good open source virtualising application. can someone give me a hint which one i should use?
[10:31] <shadeslayer> michael_: loose cable,etc?
[10:31] <adac> shadeslayer, hmm stick (sandisk) should be quite fast... Can i check somehow the usb device if it is really 2.0?
[10:31] <michael_> shadeslayer, laptop
[10:31] <rikkardo> anyone knows why dosbox doesnt work properly wigth 9.04?
[10:31] <Mechdave> shadeslayer, do you know if Ubuntu needs the BIOS to detect the disks even though it doesn't use it for acces?
[10:31] <chocobanana> Mechdave: let me check what's on the other 9.04 machine....
[10:31] <shadeslayer> adac: lsusb might show it
[10:31] <michael_> Mechdave, it told me i need a dell tech support.. blah
[10:31] <djiezes> Lovis: virtualizing OS's? Virtualbox might be the thing for you, there's an opensource edition in the ubuntu repositories.
[10:32] <michael_> shadeslayer, what could i have done wrong in the ubuntu install?
[10:32] <Lovis> thx djiezes
[10:32] <Mud|afk> shadeslayer: gonna try it with iptables (again :< )
[10:32] <shadeslayer> michael_: no idea,you did it :P
[10:32] <adac> shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/m6d7932e1
[10:32] <Mud|afk> iptables..prrrrr
[10:32] <Mechdave> chocobanana, isn't the resolv.conf re written every time a new connection is made?
[10:32] <Mud|afk> brrr*
[10:32] <adac> seems to be 2.0
[10:32] <shadeslayer> Mud|afk: didnt the wiki help?
[10:32] <Mechdave> michael_, Uh-Oh
[10:32] <shadeslayer> Mechdave: no idea
[10:32] <chocobanana> Mechdave: I believe so
[10:33] <Mud|afk> no shadeslayer, I want to redirect traffic, so ufw doesnt suite my situation
[10:33] <chocobanana> Mechdave: I'm gonna do some tinkering and I'll be right back
[10:33] <Mechdave> michael_, Maybe try the BIOS autodetect then, fingers crossed
[10:33] <shadeslayer> adac: yep 2.0
[10:33] <Mechdave> chocobanana, right you are :)
[10:33] <Insectoid> Trying to install binary ATI drivers using the envyng program, it throws a long python traceback which I can pastebin.  This makes me very very sad.
[10:33] <michael_> Mechdave, well i installed windows, it worked fine... then loaded the live cd, installed ubuntu, then this happened
[10:33] <Niek> hi, I made a audio disk (with just one song on it) a few weeks ago, I unchecked the "Close after writing" thingey on the disk, and I want to add a audio file to it (mp3, but brasero converts that into "cd format"). How do i do that ? I only get options like "copy disk" etc
[10:34] <adac> shadeslayer, hmmm: http://pastebin.com/m15ad36f8 well does the bus tell the usb slot?
[10:34] <blizzkid> what's the correct syntax to run apg and pipe it's output as an argument to a php script?
[10:34] <shadeslayer> usb slot?
[10:35] <adac> shadeslayer, well is Bus 001 the usb slot itself
[10:35] <adac> what is device 004 then?
[10:35] <shadeslayer> adac: HD's have read write speeds of 50 Mbps,flash disks have 15-20 mbps thus they are quite slow
[10:35] <Mechdave> Niek, if you write the disk as you would a blank, I think brasero will find out it is a non closed disk and then change the burning accordingly
[10:35] <adac> shadeslayer, I see!
[10:36] <Niek> Mechdave: well, it doesn't. I say "new audio project", drag my music file into it, and i say "burn" and then it says I didn't insert any recordable disks
[10:36] <shadeslayer> adac: i have such ports myself,they are internal slots,cannot be used
[10:36] <Drikan> so dose any one have any ideas?
[10:37] <shadeslayer> adac: http://pastebin.com/d5cc5193b
[10:37] <michael_> Mechdave, where would that be..?  i can't seem to find it
[10:37] <adac> shadeslayer, ok thx!
[10:37] <shadeslayer> adac: better install to HD ;)
[10:38] <adac> shadeslayer, :P
[10:38] <adac> shadeslayer, so even a external usb hd would be better?
[10:39] <shadeslayer> adac: depends,if it can utilize the full potential of the port then maybe yes
[10:39] <adac> shadeslayer, definitely worth a try then :)
[10:39] <Ada2358> Ponders /ignoring shadelayer, due to system beeps on the ada hilight...
[10:39] <shadeslayer> adac: yeah,up to you,
[10:39] <Drikan> linny: so where do i change my video drivers in X win?
[10:40] <Mechdave> michael_, The auto detect usually is in the BIOS settings (usually Del whilst booting to access) and on your comp I am not sure where you would find the auto detect, have a browse around but don't save any configurations
[10:40] <shadeslayer> Ada2358: remove it then ;)
[10:40] <adac> shadeslayer, aye!
[10:40] <Ada2358> I might just part ubuntu
[10:40] <shadeslayer> Ada2358: too crowded/
[10:40] <Ada2358> :P, the ada highlight is what I highlight on elsewhere
[10:40] <Mechdave> michael_, which model do you have?
[10:41] <ikonia> Ada2358: don't add to the channel noise with your pondering , your irc client can be configured to not beep
[10:41] <shadeslayer> Ada2358: im going in 2 min
[10:41] <Ada2358> Sorry about that, I'll duck out for now
[10:42] <michael_> Mechdave, inspiron 6400
[10:44] <Drikan> so can some one inform me where to change my video driver?
[10:46] <zetheroo> ﻿hi there ... would anyone like to take a really quick Linux survey for me? I run the FSRC wordpress blog and wanted to post a series of feedback from Linux or non-Linux users ....
[10:46] <zfmf> hi, how can i install khtml2png2? can i install this with apt-get when yess wich packgage?
[10:46] <Drikan> sigh
[10:47] <OzTrOuT> hi all .. :)
[10:47] <Drikan> hi
[10:47] <lundh> this is really annoying. I get "no block devices found" when I try to install ubuntu
[10:47] <rumpel2> zfmf, try "aptitude search khtlm | grep png"  or something like that
[10:47] <OzTrOuT> hi Drikan ... how are you doing .. ?
[10:47] <Ada2358> Drikan: If its Nvidia this could help? http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=455251
[10:48] <Mechdave> Niek, I am not sure where to go from here, unless it is in recent projects where you need to go. I don't know brasero well enough
[10:48] <Drikan> its not nvidia is a silicon motion chip
[10:48] <lundh> the installer finds the devices but when I try to boot the installed ubuntu everything fails
[10:48] <Ada2358> Got nothing...
[10:49] <Ada2358> can you get root consol?
[10:49] <Gnea> Drikan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:49] <Gnea> !root
[10:49] <Ada2358> Gnea Sorry I ment in grub
[10:49] <OzTrOuT> bye ... :)
[10:49] <Drikan> Gnea: just a min ill try that
[10:50] <Gnea> Ada2358: it helps to be specific :)
[10:50] <Mechdave> michael_, here is the DELL page for accessing the BIOS --> http://supportapj.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dsn/document?c=au&dl=true&docid=36A6D75A79524337AC21BE95E3FB44C5&journalid=692733A4FF5D32BEE040AE0AB5E123CC&l=en&s=gen
[10:50] <jondgls> can anyone direct me to a good resource for updating my repositories in Jaunty including details of fixing public keys?
[10:50] <michael_> Mechdave, thank you
[10:50] <Ada2358> No I'm glad I wasnt I forgot about the !root command :P
[10:51] <Gnea> jondgls: what's wrong with your public keys?
[10:51] <Mechdave> michael_, no worries
[10:51] <shashwatpns> does anyon e recommend xubuntu for my 256 ram computer????
[10:51] <jondgls> Gnea: When add sources to my repo list I get errors with the public keys
[10:51] <Ada2358> apt-get update does an update, but I obviously have not idea what your talking about with keys
[10:52] <Ada2358> xubuntu erm 6. something?
[10:52] <koshari> shashwatpns pesonally i would prefer flux
[10:52] <shashwatpns> why???
[10:52] <Gnea> jondgls: which sources?
[10:52] <Drikan> Gnea: ok after that i sapose i have to restart x11?
[10:52] <shashwatpns> is fluxbuntu fast???
[10:52] <Gnea> koshari: I would flush flux down the toilet
[10:53] <Ada2358> I didnt think so
[10:53] <nvrpunk> I am trying to connect to a vpn using the nm-app but it doesn't seem to be doing anything after I configured it
[10:53] <jondgls> Gnea: Third party sources like openoffice, pidgin etc..
[10:53] <Gnea> Drikan: yes
[10:53] <nvrpunk> clicking connect seems to do nothing
[10:53] <Mechdave> shashwatpns, can you pastebin your cpu and hard drive space and ram please
[10:53] <Gnea> jondgls: okay, but what did you put in, exactly?
[10:53] <Gnea> jondgls: IOW, what deb line(s) did you use?
[10:53] <Drikan> brb
[10:54] <Gnea> shashwatpns_: xubuntu should be fine for your needs. if it's not, you could also try elivecd or ozos
[10:54] <shashwatpns_> do they run ubuntu apps??
[10:55] <jondgls> Gnea: Sure one sec and i'll tell you...
[10:55] <Gnea> if they didn't run ubuntu apps, then I wouldn't be suggesting them :)
[10:56] <shashwatpns_> who would you recommend the most
[10:56] <nvrpunk> anyone able to help me with setting up a vpn in jaunty?
[10:56] <Gnea> it depends on your needs and what you want to do
[10:56] <Gnea> nvrpunk: any preference on protocol?
[10:56] <shashwatpns_> i surf the most and listen some music
[10:57] <nvrpunk> Gnea, pptp
[10:57] <gast> hz
[10:57] <Gnea> shashwatpns_: xubuntu or elivecd should be good enough
[10:57] <gast> fuck you
[10:57] <Mechdave> michael_, any joy
[10:57] <nvrpunk> :/
[10:57] <Mechdave> ?
[10:57] <shashwatpns_> k thanks gnea
[10:57] <Gnea> !language | gast
[10:57] <gast> mother fuck you
[10:58] <DJones> !ops | gast
[10:58] <Gnea> !attitude | gast
[10:58] <gast> du mich auch
[10:59] <Gnea> nvrpunk: are you planning on using the ubuntu system as the main system or using a ms-based server to do that?
[11:00] <Gnea> ...
[11:00] <lundh> there seems to be a bug in the 9.04 installer. When I install ubuntu on a disk that also includes software raid i get no block devide found when I try to boot from it. Any idea how I can solve that?
[11:00] <koshari> shashwatpns i just think flux is a lot easier to configure than xfce,
[11:01] <demon_> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-2.png i have this problem on ubuntu too
[11:01] <koshari> lundh i will guess that once its installed you will need to update initfs
[11:01] <zetheroo> ﻿ ﻿hi there ... would anyone like to take a really quick Linux survey for me? I run the FSRC wordpress blog and wanted to post a series of feedback from Linux or non-Linux users ....
[11:02] <Gnea> koshari: fluxbuntu is slow to keep up with the times
[11:02] <lundh> koshari: how?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:02] <Gnea> i sure wouldn't recommend it for a stable environment, at least nothing newer than 7.10 or 8.04
[11:02] <Gnea> hey hey hey
[11:03] <jondgls> Gnea: ok so I just added the repo as seen here http://paste.ubuntu.com/164817/ and I recieved the error as seen here http://paste.ubuntu.com/164818/
[11:03] <Drikan> gnea: no sorry that did nore resolve the issue but i am also in gnome now
[11:04] <Gnea> Drikan: hrm... so it partially fixed it?
[11:05] <Drikan> no still 1/2 the screen look odd it seems like its not properly utlizing the memory
[11:05] <Drikan> it only has 4 mb
[11:05] <Gnea> o.O
[11:05] <Drikan> MB
[11:06] <Gnea> then yeah, you're going to get sub-optimal video performance - what res are you at?
[11:06] <Drikan> :)
[11:06] <Drikan> 800x 600
[11:06] <Gnea> how does it work at 640x480?
[11:06] <Drikan> i dont have the option to change rez or color depth
[11:06] <Gnea> because 4MB is not going to power 800x600 very well at all, no matter what driver you use
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: should do, can't see why not
[11:07] <Gnea> Drikan: can you lspci | grep VGA?
[11:07] <Drikan> one sec
[11:07] <azlon1> how can I move items on my panels? I have some icons and menus I want to move but when I click and drag it executes them
[11:07] <Gnea> jondgls: still looking...
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Gnea: not full compiz sorta deal but you should be able to get the display res at 800x600 easy
[11:08] <Gnea> ActionParsnip: 16-bit maybe, 8-bit for sure... 24-bit? pshaw... :)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> no not 24bit :)
[11:08] <Dreamglider> i have an old FUjitsu Siemens liteline with 4Mb video ram running fine at 800x600 gnome (tho it's not super fast let me tell you that :P )
[11:09] <jrib> azlon1: middle click
[11:09] <Drikan> Gnea: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Motion, Inc. SM720 Lynx3DM (rev b1)
[11:09] <Adu3_linux> help me kadu is fairwalled
[11:09] <azlon1> jrib: awesome thanks!
[11:10] <professor_> hi
[11:10] <galtran> hi all
[11:10] <professor_> any recommendations on the best way to fix up music collection ID tags?
[11:10] <professor_> I am using Amarok - fantastic app btw
[11:10] <Gnea> Drikan: what driver are you using?
[11:10] <galtran> i had a problem with installation of Nvidia drivers
[11:10] <Adu3_linux> hi can you help me
[11:10] <shashwatpns> tpns
[11:10] <galtran> when i install it and rebooted
[11:11] <CyberLife> wat wiv
[11:11] <galtran> there is no standart ubuntu login screen
[11:11] <djiezes> professor_: I like EasyTag for mass-tagging mp3's, and Picard Tagger for auto-finding full albums.
[11:11] <Drikan> Gena: what ever Ubuntu installed
[11:11] <professor_> *nice*
[11:11] <professor_> btw I use Nvidia drivers since 1998 no probs
[11:11] <Drikan> Gena: how do i check
[11:11] <professor_> on Linux
[11:11] <galtran> it black console with login:     password:
[11:11] <Gnea> Drikan: could you please pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[11:11] <Drikan> one sec
[11:11] <professor_> galtran: how did you install the drivers
[11:11] <galtran> this problem appears only in ubuntu 9.04
[11:12] <professor_> I'm using Nvidia drivers on the latest Ubuntu too
[11:12] <galtran> i install from Hardware drivers manager
[11:12] <professor_> that should be fine
[11:12] <professor_> did you customise the X Config in any way previously?
[11:12] <galtran> no
[11:12] <professor_> what happens if you log in and type startx
[11:13] <galtran> mm.. i can't login with graphic interface
[11:13] <professor_> I can tell you it does work because I'm on the same setup
[11:13] <galtran> it's console
[11:13] <galtran> ;((((
[11:13] <professor_> log in via the text interface
[11:13] <professor_> and type startx
[11:13] <Gnea> jondgls: can you install archive-key-signatures?
[11:13] <professor_> console is fine
[11:13] <Drikan> Gena: pastbin: command not found
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> professor_: ive always used nvidia, flawless performance
[11:13] <Finnish> Whats a digital output on my laptop? card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]
[11:13] <Finnish>  I see no digital output
[11:14] <professor_> ActionParsnip: same here
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Drikan: its pastebinit
[11:14] <djiezes> !pastebin > Drikan
[11:14] <Drikan> lol
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Drikan: you can pipe outputs to the command too :D
[11:14] <warlock> hi guys
[11:14] <warlock> i was configuring conky to show RSS
[11:14] <peppot> anyone know why "pciehp" (for ExpressCard support, in my case) is missing from 2.6.28-11 in Jaunty?
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Drikan: saves having to open a browser
[11:14] <warlock> using ${rss http://phorolinux.com/feed 60 item_titles 10}
[11:14] <Gnea> !pastebin | Drikan
[11:14] <deus> OK, im annoyed, what on earth is controlling the hotkeys?
[11:14] <warlock> and i keep getting this error prss:Error reading RSS data
[11:15] <warlock> what could be the issue
[11:15] <Gnea> oh whoops
[11:15] <warlock> ???
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> peppot: compile it yourself
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> peppot: of find a repo with it on
[11:15] <deus> Why is the gnome-hotkeys used when i run fluxbox?
[11:15] <lundh> anyone tried zfs on linux?
[11:15] <peppot> ActionParsnip, if I wanted to or felt comfortable doing so, I'd not use ubuntu... the mess of mainting self-compiled modules etc over kernel versions... just too much work
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> deus: did you install fluxbox on ubuntu?
[11:15] <Drikan> one sec need to install it
[11:16] <Gnea> !zfs | lundh
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> peppot: then you wont get the functionality you want
[11:16] <deus> i upgraeded to 9.04
[11:16] <deus> ActionParsnip:
[11:16] <jondgls> Gnea: Sorry, what are archive-key-signatures?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> deus: you missed my point, did you manually install fluxbox after installing ubuntu
[11:17] <Gnea> jondgls: it's a package available on the launchpad site that's supposed to cure the problem: https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/apt/archive-key-signatures
[11:17] <deus> if manual you mean trough the packagemanager, then yes
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> peppot: not all hardware works without some compiling, especially alsa for the folks who insist on using creative soundcards
[11:17] <lundh> this is really annoying. I can install ubuntu but I cant boot the installation :(
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> deus: then all the gnome packages that were in ubuntu will still be present in the fluxbox session
[11:17] <omeil> Hi all, im trying to install windows xp as dual boot but it keeps saying that it cannot write into the MBR because the file type is unknown (ext4). just wondering if there is a work around?
[11:17] <professor_> insist on Creative?
[11:17] <lundh> I have no idea what I do wrong
[11:18] <Mohero> anyone here familiar with apt-mirror?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> professor_: no, avoid imo
[11:18] <professor_> ActionParsnip: I use Audigy what's wrong with that
[11:18] <Mohero> just trying to find out if / how I can get it to download x86 aswell as amd64 for the mirror.
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> professor_: their support is garbage, even for windows. ive seen too many folks come in with issues with them
[11:19] <deus> ActionParsnip: yes, but why are they enabled, and specificly what program circumvents my hotkey setup on fluxbox?
[11:19] <Gnea> jondgls: hrm, actually, ubuntu-keyring should have it..
[11:19] <azlon1> !usb
[11:19] <Drikan> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f503b386d
[11:19] <Kovensky> firefox is insta-crashing for me on startup with SIGBUS, simmilar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/174175
[11:20] <Gnea> Drikan: there seems to be some lengthy discussion on it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138110  not sure if it'll help or not
[11:20] <ye> how register a nick in freenode ?
[11:20] <dstrbdfrk> hey guys i just upgraded to 9.04 and i cant get my wireless to work i have an acer aspire one any takers?
[11:20] <omeil> ActionParsnip, What sound card brands do you recommend?
[11:20] <Kovensky> I'm using ubuntu jaunty
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> deus: its enabled due to it being loaded as part of the ubuntu system, flux is then just the front bt you see.
[11:20] <Drikan> looking
[11:20] <olopez> hi , i have gusty , anyone know some sources.list
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> deus: theres ~/.fluxbox/keys which will allow you to specify ANY shortcut keys you like
[11:20] <olopez> to gusty
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> deus: fluxbox has AWESOME shortcut key support
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> omeil: onboard realtek stuff has always worked for me and it makes a noise
[11:21] <deus> ActionParsnip: yes, and it is as i left it, the .fluxbox/keys dont do anything
[11:21] <DJones> !register | ye
[11:21] <deus> wait
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> desti_T2: they do if you put keys in there, read the documentation
[11:21] <omeil> ActionParsnip, cool, all was working fine wtih my audigy 2 till the jaunty upgrade i can't get any sound from tvtime or xawrv which sucks
[11:21] <deus> how is mod defined?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> desti_T2: wront target
[11:21] <professor_> ActionParsnip: seems the hardware is great but software is crap like ou say
[11:21] <deus> mod1
[11:21] <professor_> I agree
[11:21] <brzfw> ok ctrl alt f1 got me into virtual terminal, now how do i get out?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> professor_: yep, so i avoid
[11:22] <fosco_> brzfw: ctrl+F7
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> deus: mod = superkey
[11:22] <deus> no that cant be the problem, because when i press alt+f2 which is suppose to change my virtual desktop
[11:22] <deus> ActionParsnip: yes i know that but what would the superkey be
[11:22] <Kovensky> alt+f7
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> deus: its case sensitive too, look at the examples and you can set your own stuff
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> deus: i think Mod2 = alt
[11:22] <fosco_> brzfw: sorry alt+F7
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> left alt
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> deus: its all in the documentation online, its awesome
[11:23] <brzfw> fosco_: thank you1
[11:23] <deus> There is stuff there that wasnt there to begin with when i pres alt f2 i get the quicklaunch bar
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> deus: you'll find a lot of the time that the folks in #fluxbox are a bit snotty, or asleep. sometimes you get a nice one
[11:23] <deus> alt-f1 starts up xterm
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> deus: can you pastebin your keys file please
[11:24] <deus> ActionParsnip: LOOK! somehow gnome's shit got tangled with fluxbox configuration
[11:24] <deus> Mod1 F1 :Workspace 1
[11:24] <djiezes> deus, ActionParsnip, isn't it ctrl-alt-f1 , f2, f7 etc.. ?
[11:24] <Gnea> Drikan: that's just ... i don't know... what make/model is the laptop?
[11:24] <Mechdave> deus,  System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts will let you customise the shortcuts to what you want
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> deus: then uninstall whatever gnome thing is running
[11:25] <geirha> deus: Does Win+F1-F4 change workspaces?
[11:25] <omeil> deus: can you see gnomes desktop?
[11:25] <deus> THATS what i was trying to ask about
[11:25] <syockit> I'm still getting getting frequent lockups after converting to ext3. Can I have someone who recently clean installed Jaunty pastebin his/her /etc/fstab?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> deus: thats confusing the show
[11:25] <deus> what deamon is it
[11:25] <deus> geirha: i dont have a win button
[11:25] <Drikan> Gena: its a gateway solo 1150
[11:26] <Gnea> !laptop
[11:26] <syockit> I need to know the flags for mounting the drives (i.e. / , /boot, /home)
[11:26] <geirha> deus: gnome-settings-daemon I think. Try "ps -ef | grep gnome"
[11:26] <jondgls> Gnea: dont know anything about that stuff so I was looking for a good resource to read up and try to solve the problem
[11:26] <omeil> Hi all, im trying to install windows xp as dual boot but it keeps saying that it cannot write into the MBR because the file type is unknown (ext4). just wondering if there is a work around?
[11:26] <indus> !crap
[11:26] <Mechdave> syockit, try this --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164827/
[11:26] <ikonia> omeil: the mbr does not contain a file system
[11:26] <geirha> deus: Old keyboard then? Or do you have a meta key instead?
[11:26] <ikonia> indus: please stop that
[11:26] <syockit> Mechdave: thank you
[11:27] <Mechdave> syockit, no worries
[11:27] <indus> ok
[11:27] <ikonia> omeil: what is complaining ?
[11:27] <syockit> Mechdave: oh, it's ext4....
[11:27] <deus> geirha: i got the best keyboard in the world the old IBM ps2 keyboard
[11:27] <Mechdave> deus, I am not sure what you mean by daemon?
[11:27] <Mechdave> syockit, Oh oops, you wanted ext3 didn't you
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> deus: try: dpkg -l | grep hotkey
[11:27] <c0p3rn1c> is gnome-voice-control 0.3 easy to install on ubuntu 9.04 64bit?
[11:27] <Gnea> Drikan: did you install the standard ubuntu or something else like xubuntu/kubuntu?
[11:28] <syockit> Mechdave: do you get lock-ups?
[11:28] <omeil> ikonia: its saying that it can't install due to an incompatible file system E: <linux but i wasn't pointing at E: i was poitning at the NTFS partition, and it says that the MBR cannot be written due to that fact
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> deus: or dpkg -l | grep -i key | less
[11:28] <deus> you looking for hotkey-setup
[11:28] <Mechdave> syockit, I get a hard drive I/O error which stops the whole show :( But lockups as such no
[11:28] <ikonia> omeil: windows does not care about file systems, can you take a screen shot of this error
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> deus: try it
[11:29] <arkos> hi
[11:29] <Mechdave> syockit, Have you tried looking at /var/log/messages for clues on what could be doing it?
[11:29] <deus> its just a package its not a program
[11:29] <arkos> Anyone run the game flyff under wine?
[11:29] <deus> attleast i dont know the binary to it
[11:29] <syockit> Mechdave: hmm, you mean you don't get into situation where only the mouse pointer moves, but nothing else responds, forcing you to reboot?
[11:29] <ikonia> arkos: best bet is people in #wine-hq
[11:30] <arkos> ok thx
[11:30] <ikonia> arkos: #winehq - sorry
[11:30] <Gnea> jondgls: might have found the fix... checking
[11:30] <syockit> Mechdave: hmm, I haven't taken a look at the logs since Jaunty was released. will try again
[11:30] <Mechdave> syockit, yeah that has happened a couple of times, I do a ctrl + alt + f1 to console and see that I hace I/O errors on /dev/sda
[11:31] <Mechdave> *have*
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> deus: you could disable it from running as a daemon in your rc levels
[11:31] <omeil> ikonia: ill be back soon il take some photos with my camera
[11:32] <ikonia> omeil: super
[11:32] <Mechdave> syockit, But funnily enough it has only happened since I plugged in my 80Gig SATA drive
[11:32] <syockit> Mechdave: well, at least you get to ctrl+alt+f1... I can only alt+sysRq+b to reboot
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> syockit: doesnt sudo shutdown -r now work?
[11:33] <syockit> ActionParsnip: because I was on a xorg session (gnome), and can't change to tty, so I can't do that
[11:33] <Gnea> jondgls: found it: http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu
[11:33] <Mechdave> syockit, how often does it happen? is there anything that tends to trigger it (like opening programs etc)?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> syockit: strange
[11:34] <deus> in some instances i started up gnome-config-deamon and use gnome-control-panel
[11:34] <syockit> Mechdave: i say, firefox is the main culprit
[11:34] <deus> but i cant remeber it overode fluxbox regarding hotkeys
[11:34] <jondgls> Gnea: thanks i'll check it out!
[11:34] <deus> and i dont used gdm either only startx
[11:35] <Mechdave> syockit, I suggest cat /var/log/messages > messages.txt (so you can see the messages before they scroll past the window. It will create a file messages,txt)
[11:35] <deus> and gnome-settings-daemon is not running
[11:36] <deus> so that cant be the source
[11:36] <shaky> ciao
[11:37] <shaky> ciao a tutti
[11:37] <syockit> Mechdave: am viewing using vim for now. I'm going to play with the browser for a while to trigger a lockup, then reboot and diff. see you soon
[11:38] <Mechdave> syockit, Maybe I will do some digging on my own system in a bit in an endeavour to illuminate the source of my lockups ;)
[11:38] <Boohbah> !it | shaky
[11:38] <Mechdave> syockit, no worries
[11:38] <marcel_> i've formatted my usb drive filesystem as ext4, but its not mounted properly, i cannot write to it, how do i fix the permissions?
[11:39] <Mechdave> marcel_, how have you mounted it?
[11:39] <marcel_> Mechdave, its automounted by xubuntu
[11:40] <Mechdave> marcel_, does it have an entry in /etc/fstab?
[11:41] <Radtoo> marcel_: can you even write to it as superuser / root?
[11:41] <marcel_> Mechdave, no, its mounted as /media/disk
[11:41] <marcel_> Mechdave, as root yes
[11:41] <rumpel2> try "sudo chown <username> /media/disk"
[11:41] <shaky> grazi
[11:41] <Radtoo> guess then its just a matter of giving correct permissions rather than filesystem checking it.
[11:41] <reid> does projectM still work?
[11:41] <marcel_> rumpel2, thanks, that works
[11:42] <Mechdave> marcel_, so it is a permissions thing, you can mount it as rw but I am not sure how to do it with the xubuntu automounter
[11:42] <marcel_> Mechdave, thanks for the help, works now after changing the ownership to myself
[11:42] <Radtoo> reid: the music visualizer thingie?
[11:43] <Mechdave> marcel_, no worries
[11:43] <reid> Radtoo: yessir
[11:43] <reid> Radtoo: I'm trying to figure out if there is really a stable package for it or if I have to do some svn guesswork
[11:46] <Radtoo> reid: dunno how to rate "really stable" but there is a package for it... libvisual-projectm, no?
[11:47] <Radtoo> reid: or libprojectm2 for version 2 of projectm, I guess.
[11:47] <reid> Radtoo: I haven't been able to find any information on it frankly,  but thats enough for me to at least do some more research..
[11:47] <reid> Radtoo: the website seems to be updated like.. once every 6 months lol
[11:47] <achilles> hello all, I have two ISP routers, is it possible to install a linux box to provide redundancy if any of the routers failed the another take the place ?
[11:47] <Drikan> oh Gnea: sorry was editing my xorg.conf didnt see you type me somthing no standard ubuntu
[11:48] <rumpel2> achilles, anything ist possible :)
[11:48] <azlon> when i run "e2fsck -f /media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw" in terminal it returns "/media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw: 29928/64000 files (2.9% non-contiguous), 244581/256000 blocks". then when i run "resize2fs /media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw" it says "Please run 'e2fsck -f /media/PORTABLELNX/casper-rw' first." what should i do?
[11:48] <ijijij> hi im using 8.04  and i want to update network manager for latest for mobile broad support is there anyway to do that
[11:48] <strixv> Hey guys I just had a really weird problem, trying to figure out what could cause it: I suspended, woke the machine back up, wireless wouldn't connect, rebooted, now all Ubuntu desktop settings (panels, compiz, etc) are reset to defaults! wtf?
[11:48] <strixv> (Ubuntu 9.04)
[11:48] <MementoMori> hi
[11:49] <achilles> rumpel2, :)
[11:49] <achilles> details ?
[11:49] <Radtoo> reid: Yes, seems like it's a small "spare time" project...
[11:49] <rumpel2> achilles, well... you can put script on both router, which adapts the route, if on of them is not responding for pings...
[11:49] <MementoMori> My natural language is Italian but i've installed jaunty in English. How can I change the system date format from mm/dd/yyyy to dd/mm/yyyy ?
[11:50] <deus> Also, when i used ctrl+alt+f8 and the like
[11:50] <syockit> strixv: wireless wouldn't connect sounds like a known bug, but desktop settings reset?!?!
[11:50] <deus> I CANT GET TO A COMMANDLINE
[11:50] <rumpel2> something like that... perhaps, there are more conveniant solutions out there
[11:50] <marcel_> what filesystem should i use if i want encryption?
[11:50] <Radtoo> reid: If you want more updates, I guess you'd have to make them yourself. ;)
[11:50] <achilles> rumpel2, it seems like heartbeat .. but it's not what I'm looking for
[11:50] <fosco_> deus: ctrl+alt+f1
[11:50] <deus> i enabled killx but when i used it all i get is a striped screen
[11:51] <deus> fosco_: nothing
[11:51] <ozzer> hi i just installed xubuntu on my pc and want to mount the windows partition to get at my files on there, how do i do this. i could mount the hard drive running the live cd but now i've installed it can't seem to get at the other partition.
[11:51] <achilles> rumpel2, sometimes fail comes from the ISP
[11:51] <Drikan> gnea: check PM
[11:51] <deus> fosco_: the blinking - is there but i cant relay any input
[11:51] <peterloorke> hi, i can't make crontab work any suggestion?
[11:51] <strixv> syockit: Yeah exactly, desktop settings all reset like I deleted some /home/user/.gnome stuff
[11:51] <fosco_> deus: it happens sometimes when having problems with framebuffer in console
[11:52] <reid> ozzer: honestly the easiest way to have done this would have been during the install.  You can mount the existing partition at /windows, and tell ubuntu not to format it
[11:52] <Drikan> Gnea: brb restaring
[11:52] <strixv> syockit: Also, my nautilus bookmarks list has disappeared. When I drag something into it, it sits there for .5 seconds and then disappears too
[11:52] <fosco_> deus: use startupmanager and try a lower init resolution
[11:52] <syockit> strixv: but you're still logged in? on were you logged out when you resumed?
[11:52] <deus> fosco_: what startupmanager?
[11:53] <MrSunshine> ive changed a file in modprobe.d folder, how do i regenerate the needed files for booting ?
[11:53] <strixv> syockit: Yeah I'm still logged in. I restarted a few times, logged in, same user, only 1 user on the system anyway
[11:53] <ozzer> reid: is there another way short of reinstalling it
[11:53] <strixv> I still have all my /home/user files
[11:53] <fosco_> deus: sudo aptitude install startupmanager && sudo startupmanager
[11:54] <deus> wait, what does the init resolution have anything to do with that?
[11:54] <Radtoo> ozzer: how can't you get at the other partition? on the ocmmand line?
[11:54] <syockit> strixv: yeah, but what about .gnome or .local files? I'm suspecting either they're corrupted, or loaded read only, or something else I can't think of
[11:54] <reenignEesreveR> how do i make sure that logrotate is working?
[11:54] <strixv> syockit: Yeah it seems like it's gotta be something like that. Weird behavior all over the board. For example, the google search box in Firefox just stopped working. Can type in it, but pressing enter does nothing.
[11:55] <reid> ozzer: You could edit fstab, but if you are very new to linux this is a bit scary and might take you just as long as just reinstalling o.O
[11:55] <reid> ozzer: actually, you might be able to do it with gparted or some other GUI thing nowadays..
[11:55] <strixv> syockit: Is there a way to do a scan for hard disk corruption in Ubuntu?
[11:55] <Radtoo> strixv: sure, multiple.
[11:56] <Radtoo> strixv: I personally like using smartctl -t long on the command line
[11:56] <strixv> ok
[11:56] <reenignEesreveR> I've installed ubuntu 8.04 server. I'm not sure if logrotation.d is getting invoked. How do I ensure that? I can't find any cronjob anywhere installed for it
[11:57] <strixv> Radtoo: when I install that it tries to set up some Postfix stuff
[11:57] <drkimble> !mp3
[11:57] <strixv> Radtoo: ok got it with "no configuration"
[11:57] <Radtoo> strixv: The log then can be viewed with smartctl -a. It does a lot of tests...
[11:57] <Radtoo> strixv: what? - -
[11:57] <blankthemuffin> http://pb.luahelp.com/883 why is it so?
[11:58] <strixv> Radtoo: It has some mail options. Do you have a suggestion for a graphical one as well that doesn't involve log files? I've spent forever poring over the system logs trying to figure it out already
[11:58] <Gnea> Drikan: you should get a different ubuntu derivative - your system is too slow for standard ubuntu
[11:59] <Drikan> Gnea: well every thing works just the pesky video issue
[11:59] <Radtoo> strixv: No. I don't use any mail options, but I also don't use any graphical things when I just need information. :)
[11:59] <deus> fosco_: this cant be the problem, the bootloader menu can be seen plainly, and i uninstall gdm so i go directly into terminal and that works fine at first before i start x
[11:59] <fosco_> ok
[11:59] <Gnea> Drikan: have you used older ubuntu versions on it?
[11:59] <drkimble> Drikan: dont give up, where there is a will, and all that
[11:59] <Drikan> Gnea: hell its runing better then XP did
[11:59] <Gnea> lol
[12:00] <peterloorke> crontab problem, anybody? am i the only one having this problem?
[12:00] <Gnea> well, it's ubuntu, of course it runs better than XP ;)
[12:00] <cipo> m
[12:00] <Gnea> peterloorke: don't know about a crontab problem - works fine here
[12:00] <cipo> bom dia
[12:00] <indus> Gnea: XP runs as good
[12:00] <peterloorke> oh, i see T_T
[12:00] <Drikan> gnea: no i just got the laptop and using it to study for school
[12:00] <wildc4rd> whats my best choice of app to run a VM on ubuntu?
[12:00] <cipo> como funciona??
[12:00] <Boohbah> peterloorke: what's the problem?
[12:00] <Gnea> indus: runs it into the ground good?
[12:01] <drkimble> Most OS's are ok :)
[12:01] <peterloorke> simply it does not work
[12:01] <Boohbah> wildc4rd: virtualbox
[12:01] <Gnea> XP is better than Vista, but Ubuntu is better than both :)
[12:01] <Boohbah> peterloorke: is crond running?
[12:01] <Gnea> !br | cipo
[12:01] <chalcedony> Gnea: right on :)
[12:01] <drkimble> my vista works like a charm
[12:01] <wildc4rd> kk, cheers boohbah, I'll have a look now
[12:02] <Gnea> drkimble: charmed you into using ubuntu, eh?
[12:02] <peterloorke> wait i have to look (i wish this is not my problem if so i'm gonna kill myself lol)
[12:02] <Tjong> :D
[12:02] <drkimble> I dual boot
[12:02] <Gnea> clearly
[12:02] <drkimble> always have done
[12:02] <romme> i've installed xulrunner-1.9.1 to try out the new firefox, and now both evolution and liferea don't launch, just print "Aborted" in the console. i do have evolution-rss installed. is there any workaround other than remove the firefox beta?
[12:02] <Radtoo> strixv: At least I can vouch that a long SMART test is fairly reliable... (There's no better test routines I know of).
[12:02] <drkimble> cant get WoW to run in Linux :)
[12:02] <Tjong> omg
[12:02] <indus> Gnea: this isnt a windows support forum or i would have helped you with it
[12:02] <Gnea> drkimble: it's tricky, but can be done
[12:02] <Radtoo> drkimble: well, you could.
[12:02] <drkimble> really
[12:03] <erUSUL> !appdb | drkimble
[12:03]  * drkimble is interested
[12:03] <Radtoo> drkimble: Yes, appdb.winehq.com has info
[12:03] <Drikan> well definitly MS has there head up there ass making there OS: with soo mutch services running in the backgound but im running Vista on my desk top witch is far superior to this POS Laptop
[12:03] <wildc4rd> is that one OK on Gnome boohbah?
[12:03] <erUSUL> !ot | Drikan
[12:03] <Boohbah> wildc4rd: it uses qt but it will run fine in gnome
[12:03] <Radtoo> drkimble: And tricky... is relative. An average reading person with an hour or two can do it.
[12:03] <Gnea> drkimble: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[12:03] <strixv> Radtoo: I'm not sure how to use this. I have to specify a device type and location
[12:03] <drkimble> nice, thanks
[12:04] <ozzer> drkimble: have you installed Wine?
[12:04] <drkimble> whats it run like though, every millisecond is life or death :)
[12:04] <Radtoo> strixv: you have to specify the device, yes. like /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[12:04]  * Gnea doesn't waste his time playing WoW, so not sure ;)
[12:05] <Drikan> well inany case Ubuntu installed when Fedora 10 did not
[12:05]  * drkimble wastes a lot of time
[12:05] <Boohbah> Gnea: you imply that you have better things to do
[12:05] <Gnea> Boohbah: indeed. the battle for wesnoth is a much cheaper time waster.
[12:05] <peterloorke> Boohbah: i restarted cron and it did non work, again.
[12:06] <Radtoo> strixv: As it runs on the device, no other "locations" are necessary. It will test it thoroughly (without command line output) due to you using the "long" routine, and log the result(s) to the drive. Which logs you can get at with smartctl -a. Does that explain things?
[12:06] <ozzer> reid: where is fstab and what would need editing?
[12:06] <Prabz> Hi, ever since I upgraded to jaunty, I've been facing a problem with playing videos in vlc. The video no longer runs within the main window, rather, it runs in a separate window called "XVideo output"
[12:06] <Prabz> How to correct it?
[12:06] <drkimble> best thing about Linux is you know nowt is spying on you in some closed program, then again if you have google earth running you never know whats going on I suppose
[12:06] <Gnea> alright, I'm trying to make a key using gpg --gen-key, but when it asks for more entropy, it never catches up - how can I correct this?
[12:07]  * Kovensky would encourage to not use VLC but that isn't the point
[12:07] <strixv> Radtoo: Yep I've got a list here of some errors and stuff recorded by SMART
[12:07] <strixv> How can I schedule a disk check for the next time I restart Ubuntu?
[12:07] <Kovensky> Gnea: keep mashing your keyboard?
[12:07] <Radtoo> strixv: that's entirely not the same :)
[12:07] <Gnea> Kovensky: did that for a few minutes straight. nada
[12:07] <mib_aguhdw> http://kr0y.mybrute.com/
[12:07] <Prabz> Kovensky, what else to use, if not vlc?
[12:07] <rdw200169> Is there a good place to find information on reducing firefox's idle CPU usage?  I regularly have b/w 15 - 20% idle CPU usage, even when the window is minimized... ?
[12:07] <Radtoo> strixv: its good that you got logs but the type of check you think of from the windows world is not mainly a hardware check, but a data check
[12:07] <Kovensky> I use mplayer
[12:08] <strixv> Radtoo: That's ok, I'd like to let it run through the check that I always skip ;)
[12:08] <djiezes> Prabz: i think you can change that setting in vlc options.
[12:08] <Gnea> Prabz: just change the video output plugin in the preferences
[12:08] <strixv> Radtoo: And I don't understand a word in the logs
[12:08] <Gnea> Prabz: make it like opengl or x11
[12:08] <Kovensky> anyway, any idea what might have caused https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/174175 to hit me on jaunty? :/
[12:08] <Radtoo> strixv: The data checks on ubuntu run as needed (like they do in newer versions of XP). You could run one manually with the filesystem utilities but I don't think you "schedule" them any time.
[12:08] <Kovensky> firefox worked perfectly for me while I was using the alphas, borked after I upgraded to the final :/
[12:09] <Kovensky> tried downgrading already, nothing
[12:09] <demon_> i cant make another partition from my sda1 pls help
[12:09] <Gnea> demon_: sda1 is a partition, you can't partition it further
[12:09] <Kovensky> demon_: you can't make partitions inside partitions
[12:09] <demon_> Kovensky, i want to make another one :)
[12:09] <Radtoo> strixv: Sorry, meant to say windows XP and newer. And well, you don't need to understand much more in the logs than that the drive's hardware is broken in some parts, perhaps?
[12:10] <Gnea> demon_: then make it on sda
[12:10] <rdw200169> demon_, you can use something like gparted to do that.  keep in mind that you can't be using that particular partition at the time you *resize* it.
[12:10] <demon_> Gnea,  i dont have sda just sda 1.2 and 5
[12:10] <DaveWM> you can partiion it into directories...
[12:10] <strixv> Radtoo: Okay I'd like to run one manually with the filesystem utilities... but I haven't found it in the menus
[12:10] <DaveWM> heh
[12:10] <Radtoo> strixv: Usually the suggestion is to return the drive when it has errors other than reads that took too long or something, as that indicates actual seriosu damge to hardware.
[12:10] <demon_> live cd ??? i can do with that can i
[12:11] <Gnea> demon_: sda is the whole disk, 1, 2 and 5 are partitions. again, you can only partition the whole disk, not partitions (unless it's extended)
[12:11] <strixv> Radtoo: And I'll just do that after I let it finish this 88 minute smart test ;)
[12:11] <Gnea> !partitions | demon_
[12:11] <Prabz> djiezes, Gnea , I've tried resetting all preferences, made it opengl, X11, whatever I do, it just changes the title of the separate window
[12:11] <rdw200169> demon_, so, for example, if your entire hard drive is one big partition (sda1), you would resize sda1 to a smaller size, then create a new one in the empty space.
[12:11] <Radtoo> strixv: Its all command line... what type of a filesystem do you have? (can check with "mount")
[12:11] <demon_> rdw200169,  i cant resize my sda1 dunno why
[12:11] <rdw200169> demon_, yes, the ubuntu live cd has gparted, which consequentially works better than the installer's partition tools
[12:12] <strixv> Radtoo: An ext1 filesystem on /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5
[12:12] <rdw200169> demon_, what did you use to to do that?  what type of partition is it?
[12:12] <demon_> rdw200169,  my sda1 is locked
[12:12] <demon_> ext3
[12:12] <Gnea> demon_: you can't do anything while it's mounted, that's why you need the livecd
[12:12] <snitko> anyone knows why in 9.04 the terminal window autoresizes when I run Vim in it and how to disable it?
[12:12] <traumgeist> lol
[12:12] <peterloorke> Boohbah: i restarted cron and it did non work, again. Also when i'm trying to log cron with this append or whatever thing ( > ) it don't works too
[12:12] <demon_> Gnea, yeap thanks lemme find a live cd :)
[12:13] <c_nick> any community for C Begineers
[12:13] <drkimble> demon_: try sysrescue cd its great for partition stuff http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[12:13] <Gnea> c_nick: #programming or #c
[12:13] <demon_> thanks
[12:13] <demon_> lemme reboot
[12:13] <demon_> cheers
[12:13] <djiezes> Prabz: somewhere on the first page of preferences, there's an option to 'integrate video in interface'. maybe that's what you're looking for.
[12:14] <Radtoo> strixv: with that one you actually could cause it to fsck on reboot... tune2fs -c 1 /dev/hdaX
[12:14] <Prabz> djiezes, toggling that option doesn't make a difference
[12:14]  * Gnea is trying to sign the ubuntu CoC but can't get the farking key made....
[12:14] <mib_aguhdw> Join and play this http://is.gd/wSkZ Flash based MMORPG. Addictive!!!
[12:14] <bazhang> mib_aguhdw, dont paste here
[12:14] <Gnea> !ot | mib_aguhdw
[12:14] <rdw200169> c_nick, there are also many many websites that help you learn C, particularly on linux, where things are free, regardless, for the best experience, it is highly recommended that you pick up the #1 reference for C, K&R: "The C Programming Language" by Kernighan and Ritchie.
[12:15] <Radtoo> strixv: note that I copy / pasted this one. Its more likely that you got /dev/sdaX or something. And the "1" means check on every boot... it will happen until you change it back
[12:15] <JessicaParker> hi can anyone assist with dual screen ? have got it working somehow but not sure how to switch between primary and secondary ?
[12:15] <JessicaParker> i have an intel video card
[12:15] <strixv> Radtoo: ok great thanks a lot for that command!
[12:15] <Radtoo> strixv: (normal is more like 20 or something, not 1)
[12:15] <rdw200169> JessicaParker, darn!  I know a lot about doing it with Nvidia, but not intel :(
[12:15] <Gnea> JessicaParker: did you put the same desktop across both or 2 different desktop on both?
[12:16] <djiezes> Prabz: the option to put video & controls in 1 window should be somewhere there in preferences. also check skinning options.
[12:16] <JessicaParker> 2 different desktops
[12:16] <Gnea> JessicaParker: that leads me to believe that there are 2 separate X servers running - would that be correct?
[12:16] <c_nick> rdw200169: ohh ok i wanted to help someone with their Basic C difficulties... thats all the sharpen my skills
[12:16] <Drikan> Gnea: OK well im chatting with you on Ubuntu now and the only thing wrong is this video issue. editing the xorg.conf file didnt seem to do any thing and even in the file is states that its pretty mutch useless.  1 why is it useless and 2 how do i set the pramiters manualy or reconfigure X11 to use the file again?
[12:17] <c_nick> i was reading K&R but then got a bit bored reading it
[12:17] <JessicaParker> not sure I used system>preferences>screen resolution
[12:17] <Gnea> JessicaParker: also, what do you mean by 'switch', exactly?
[12:17] <jhattara> join #ubuntu-fi
[12:17] <JessicaParker> i will get a screen print
[12:17] <Radtoo> strixv: no problem. :)
[12:17] <rdw200169> c_nick, smart man ;)  if you're just looking for a good quick reference, there's a package for ubuntu that sort-of offers that
[12:18] <c_nick> ohh where ?
[12:18] <strixv> Radtoo: This is really weird, I can't log into gmail, I can't do advanced google searches, all my preferences for everything seem to have disappeared
[12:18] <strixv> Radtoo: But I can log into facebook and do regular googles
[12:18] <rdw200169> c_nick, i think its c++-annotations
[12:18] <Gnea> Drikan: you know, that whole bit has become a bit of a mystery that i haven't bothered to figure out yet... usually, i just make minor edits to xorg.conf where needed and restart it anyway
[12:18] <Radtoo> strixv: Agreed, it is weird.
[12:18] <rdw200169> c_nick, it also has some stuff on basic C syntax, also
[12:18] <c_nick> how should i get a hold on that
[12:18] <strixv> Radtoo: And all of my bookmarks in FF have disappeared. I suspect it has something to do with an FF addon or with upgrading FF
[12:19] <jimi_hendrix> i followed the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but now ubuntu just runs in low graphics mode
[12:19] <rdw200169> c_nick, being that its a normal ubuntu package, just $ sudo apt-get install c++-annotations
[12:19] <Radtoo> strixv: There's some chance something in your user directory (or browser settings) or browser itself is broken.
[12:19] <strixv> Radtoo: But my bookmarks have only disappeared from the bookmarks list, when I type into the URL bar they still show up when they match what I'm typing. Fuckin strange
[12:20] <ozzer> i'm sorted, managed to mount at cmd line from instructions on ubuntu help :)
[12:20] <c_nick> rdw200169: how to get it
[12:20] <Drikan> humm
[12:20] <Radtoo> strixv: ah, but these are a bit different in firefox. They also come from the url history and such. I recall your bookmarks should be in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html or bookmarks.bat
[12:20] <JessicaParker> Gnea: i have a 19inch and a laptop - the screen print does not capture it properly but it works.............
[12:21] <Radtoo> strixv: where *.default is a profile folder with some odd name. might be called anything, actually ;)
[12:21] <amar> sound disappeared during 9.04 RC and after some tweaks with driver selection..came back... but still not with Video Players or Amarok...
[12:21] <Gnea> JessicaParker: url?
[12:21] <strixv> Radtoo: yeah I know they come from history etc but these are definitely bookmarks, they have the gold star icon on the right
[12:21] <JessicaParker> Gnea: http://imagebin.ca/view/YQAeT5DB.html
[12:21] <Radtoo> strixv: It may help to recover the bookmarks, but I have no clue at all what might have broken your browser and such... :)
[12:21] <strixv> Radtoo: And when I go to "organize bookmarks" firefox crashes
[12:22] <deus> Are there any ubuntu help channel for more advanced users
[12:22] <compubomb> when i upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 my grub no longer shows when a menu item is being selected, so i have to just figure if i move all the way up enough times i'll get linux, all the way down enough times i get windows.
[12:22] <deus> this clearly isnt working
[12:22] <Radtoo> strixv: Oh, okay. Well, you at least know what to backup for the bookmarks now if you choose to erase the settins directory for firefox eventually. :)
[12:22] <compubomb> doesn't show an active highlighted entry.
[12:22] <rdw200169> c_nick, wait, i'm sorry, this was the package: c-cpp-reference
[12:22] <indus> amar: what is the problem
[12:22] <strixv> Radtoo: Yep, thanks ;)
[12:22] <JessicaParker> Gnea: i need the one on the right to be primary (that is my laptop)
[12:22] <strixv> Radtoo: Okay I'm gonna restart and see what a disk check comes up with
[12:22] <strixv> Radtoo: Thanks for all your help!
[12:22] <rdw200169> c_nick, so, if you get that from synaptic or apt-get, you can read the documentation starting at
[12:22] <Radtoo> strixv: its gonna interrupt smart tho ;)
[12:23] <c_nick> ohh ok
[12:23] <rdw200169> c_nick, by copying this into the firefox URL bar: file:///usr/share/doc/c-cpp-reference/html/C/c.html
[12:23] <deus> OK let take it from the top
[12:23] <mib_c8pp57> anyone here with a nokia n73 able to use it as a music player in jaunty with rythmbox to
[12:23] <amar> indus: I don't have sound when using a video player like SMPlayer or VLC or whatever
[12:23] <mib_c8pp57> add or remove songs
[12:23] <mib_c8pp57> ?
[12:23] <indus> amar: right click on sound icon in panel says what?
[12:24] <deus> WHAT makes sure that alt+f2 starts up Run program
[12:24] <advance> Hey guys I'm having trouble trying to configure Xscreensaver can anyone help me out?
[12:24] <deus> in gnome
[12:24] <Mechdave> Has anyone experienced the live cd requiring a username and password?
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Mechdave: some,but not me
[12:24] <advance> deus:  Keyboard shortcuts.. You can change it if you want t
[12:25] <indus> Mechdave: just use ubuntu and ubuntu for username password
[12:25] <c_nick> ok
[12:25] <djiezes> deus: you can set those in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[12:25] <mib_c8pp57> deus: system->pref-> keyboard shoprtcuts
[12:25] <sacarlson> Machdave: at install time?
[12:25] <advance> Lol
[12:25] <amar> indus: displays volume control and mute option etc.... (i can hear to my songs using rhythmbox or other music players
[12:25] <Mechdave> indus, cheers
[12:25] <mib_c8pp57> nyone here with a nokia n73 able to use it as a music player in jaunty with rythmbox to add or remove songs?
[12:25] <indus> Mechdave: :)
[12:25] <Jockeo> When printing a sheet in OOo Calc, it prints the name of the sheet, such as "Sheet1" on the top of the paper. How can I prevent this?
[12:25] <deus> advance: it doesnt specify anything that have to do with changeing desktops
[12:26] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any ideas ? thank you
[12:26] <djiezes> Jockeo: in the printing options dialog?
[12:26] <indus> amar: which movie player > totem have you tried?
[12:26] <Gnea> JessicaParker: still checking..
[12:26] <djiezes> Jockeo: page options probably
[12:26] <deus> advance: and nothing beginning with "alt" has an entry there
[12:26] <mib_c8pp57> nokia n73 users out there?
[12:26] <rdw200169> c_nick, also, for future reference, there is an application called 'dhelp' which makes browsing and using documentation in a debian environment a little easier.  this particular application keeps track of a directory called /usr/share/doc/HTML which acts like a one stop place to go for various, mostly programming, resources
[12:26] <Mechdave> indus, didn't work :(
[12:26] <advance> deus:  Changing desktops is a compix thing. What you want to do is go under system > preferences >  compiz settings manager
[12:27] <deus> but that wasnt my question either, what daemon picks up the hotkeys and run the appropriate program
[12:27] <deus> advance: i dont run compiz
[12:27] <indus> Mechdave: tell me where exactly is it askking for password
[12:27] <advance> deus:  wait..
[12:27] <Jockeo> djiezes: It was in the page options, thanks!
[12:27] <advance> deus:  I don't know then. My bad dude.
[12:27] <amar> indus: nope.. i use SM and VLC generally..however even in Totem it didn't have sound
[12:27] <djiezes> Jockeo: np, glad i could help
[12:27] <Firefishe> Where might I find instructions for installing kde 3.5.10 alongside kde4?  I'm using ubuntu 8.10
[12:28] <rdw200169> deus, lemme guess, your Alt + F2 doesn't work anymore either...
[12:28] <indus> amar: go to system>preferences>sound and tell me your output setings
[12:28] <advance> Anyone know Xscreensaver?
[12:28] <Drikan> Gnea: How do i figure out my exact vershion of XWin?
[12:29] <deus> rdw200169: well yes it works, it brings up the "run program" bar
[12:29] <Jockeo> djiezes: I had looked in several places, in "Tools" -> "Options", in the printing dialog and googled a little but couldn't find it. I had totally missed the fact that there is a page options form.
[12:29] <deus> rdw200169: thing is, I DONT USE GNOME i use fluxbox
[12:29] <Gnea> JessicaParker: did you do any manual editting or xorg.conf or was it all guified?
[12:29] <Gnea> Drikan: it's usually at the top of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:29] <rdw200169> deus, then i'm still the only one...
[12:30] <Drikan> oh ok thanks
[12:30] <amar> indus: Sound playback: OSS, Music & Movies :OSS, Audio Conf.. : same in both : OSS .., Default Mixer Tracks : HDA Intel(Alsa mixer)
[12:30] <rdw200169> deus, forgive me, but i've never used fluxbox, so i don't know :(
[12:30] <deus> rdw200169: thats ok but what is your problem
[12:30] <JessicaParker> Gnea: no manual edit whatsoever
[12:31] <indus> amar: change it to autodetect
[12:31] <JessicaParker> Gnea: just plug and play.............things have come a long way these days
[12:31] <Gnea> JessicaParker: okay. can you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:31] <Gnea> JessicaParker: yes they have :)
[12:31] <amar> indus: where?? what??? everything??
[12:31] <advance> Can anyone help me configure Xscreensaver I'm having a bit of trouble
[12:31] <rdw200169> deus, meh, i don't know, since i've installed 9.04 Alt+f2 functionality disappeared.  it would be unfair, though, to discuss it further b/c its probably something stupid, and related to the fact that i've had the same /home since 7.10
[12:31] <indus> amar: yes everything except audio capture
[12:31] <rdw200169> deus, that and i've put exactly 0% effort into finding the problem ;)
[12:32] <dimebar> deus: sorry what's your problem with fluxbox?
[12:32] <amar> indus:  ok ..but what in Mixer?
[12:32] <deus> dimebar: fluxbox uses gnomes hotkey settings
[12:32] <indus> amar: alsamixer
[12:32] <amar> indus: ok
[12:32] <indus> amar: i mean the first option must be that
[12:33] <indus> amar: what option do you have
[12:33] <amar> indus: did
[12:33] <indus> amar: logout and login then play a movie
[12:33] <JessicaParker> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/d1674d206
[12:34] <amar> indus: ok..sure..thanks...
[12:34] <Barre> trying to make a vpn connection with pptp in jaunty, but I keep getting a dbus-daemon rejected message in auth.log. What have I missed?
[12:34] <mater> i have ubuntu installed but i am currently running windows. i need to replace the primary loader cause it is infected, can someone help me out on this?
[12:35] <mater> my box got rooted and is totally infected
[12:35] <Radtoo> mater: You mean your boot sector also got overwritten?
[12:35] <mater> everything is blocked by firewall i wrote, but still i need to recover somehoe
[12:35] <mater> well, this virus has root priviledges
[12:36] <Radtoo> mater: it's ... in ubuntu as well?
[12:36] <indus> mater: cool
[12:36] <mater> i don't think it is in ubuntu
[12:36] <indus> mater: maybe reinstall grub?
[12:36] <Radtoo> mater: okay, so its a windows virus that just did it's best to annoy without destroying random data on the hdd.
[12:37] <mater> the question i have is this: i want to boot from ubuntu, unfortunately i never used ubuntu b4, i used redhat, so i donnow what to do for me to be able to boot in ubuntu now
[12:37] <Radtoo> mater: In that case, reinstall grub, and you might need to run fixmbr using a windows cd as well (or wipe/reinstall windows).
[12:37] <indus> mater: Do Not reinstall windows on top of ubuntu , system wont boot
[12:37] <advance> indus:  LIES
[12:38] <indus> but you can fix mbr with other tools i hear
[12:38] <Radtoo> mater: ehm... you mean its not installed yet?
[12:38] <mater> Radtoo, correct. it did not actually destoy anything yet, it is basically an open proxy to some funky operation of enlarge your peanus type
[12:38] <indus> advance: its true ,windows overwrites the mbr
[12:38] <Radtoo> mater: annoying enough but yes then you can be almost certain it wasn't doing anything at all to any linux which was installed.
[12:39] <indus> advance:there are tools to recover but  i dont want to discuss it here
[12:39] <advance> indus: But all you have to do is take a live cd and copy your grub record then transfer it over to another bootloader and you can actualy use the Vista/Longhorn bootloader.
[12:39] <mater> Radtoo, ubuntu is installed but i installed winxp sp3 and never booted ubuntu after that
[12:39] <martinom> advance: Yeah, pretty easy actually.
[12:39] <advance> indus:  Yeah I was about to say You need to tell that to my computer because she works really good
[12:39] <advance> martinom:  Yeah it was really easy
[12:39] <indus> advance: yes but the fact is me and most users dont get it
[12:39] <Radtoo> mater: okay. that makes it clear. well, you might actually want to just install a newer version of ubuntu now if one came out in the meantime ;)
[12:40] <djiezes> mater: you just need to reinstall grub, in order to be able to boot ubuntu.
[12:40] <martinom> advance: I've done it a few times by mistake :p
[12:40] <indus> advance: bootloader scares me
[12:40] <Radtoo> mater: But failing that, just boot the old ubuntu cd and do http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[12:40] <mater> indus, well, if you can help me out, join #rootkit. we can talk there, the same thing for anybody else
[12:40] <advance> djiezes:  no you don't
[12:40] <martinom> advance: grub-install writes to mbr.
[12:40] <indus> mater: i can help you with grub here itself
[12:40] <djiezes> why not? ubuntu is still on his system.
[12:40] <indus> its easy
[12:40] <zhangxing> test
[12:40] <advance> You guys are out of control
[12:40] <advance> I'm 15 and I did it?
[12:41] <syockit> hmm I seem to have found something that does what I wanted. it combines two of them too: 1. hide a tab 2. number the tabs. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9528
[12:41] <advance> and you guys are scared
[12:41]  * Gnea looks oddly at advance 
[12:41] <indus> mater: use a live cd and boot into ubuntu first then you can repair grub
[12:41] <martinom> Mhm.
[12:41] <indus> advance: iam i correct?
[12:42] <Gnea> JessicaParker: have you tried xrandr?
[12:42] <mater> Radtoo, i tried to boot from old ubuntu, but my primary loader is bad
[12:42] <djiezes> indus: yea, but don't trust me, i'm out of control app ;-)
[12:42] <Radtoo> mater: using the cd is the imperative here
[12:42] <martinom> All you have to do is run 'grub-install' i guess. Which actually does not 'install' grub all over again, it just writes to mbr.
[12:43] <JessicaParker> Gnea: no i thought with the auto detection  there would be something that i could use
[12:43] <Radtoo> mater: you'll have to boot off the cd to fix the loader.
[12:43] <advance> indus:  http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm
[12:43] <advance> indus: That is probobly the easyest thing I have ever done on linux
[12:43] <JessicaParker> Gnea: i was reluctant to do anything else mainly as it seems to all work as i need it to
[12:44] <advance> indus: Primaraly using NEOGrub it was really easy
[12:44] <martinom> I've been looking around for a solution to a resolution problem i have. The edges of my desktop/display won't show up.
[12:44] <root> where are kernel headers for 2.6.27-11-generic?
[12:44] <advance> martinom:  What do you mean the edges
[12:44] <root> cannot find them in jaunty repos.
[12:44] <indus> advance: i know , but these things are too much for a new user thats all i say
[12:44] <martinom> advance: Seems as if though the screen is 'zoomed'.
[12:44] <mater> Radtoo, i am trying to boot from ubuntu cd and thought i could do a reinstall, but it wants to repartition my drives, or else quit
[12:45] <Gnea> JessicaParker: the problem with gnome and autodetection is that it, often times, does just the bare minimum. the GUI itself provides just enough to get the job done - and that's a good thing. but, you're talking about altering things, which is beyond the scope of the basic GUI design of ubuntu. it really depends on how badly you want to switch the screens, but it's going to require going to the level of commandline and using xrandr to tweak the settings and 
[12:45] <martinom> If you know what I mean.
[12:45] <indus> advance: i did repair grub once but it was scary
[12:45] <sacarlson> ﻿martinom: you sure it's not your monitor settings that need to be changed
[12:45] <indus> easy but scary
[12:45] <peppot> q
[12:45] <mater> Radtoo, can we talk about this on #rootkit, cause it too much traffic here
[12:45] <martinom> sacarlson: When I move xorg.conf somewhere and use vesa, it works.
[12:45] <Radtoo> mater: you can do a reinstall? just tell it to use the old partitions you had.
[12:45] <Gnea> and i have no idea if that got cut off or not
[12:45] <rdw200169> you don't need to reboot to fix the mbr, or anything like that.  the trick, is to know what device you want to put it on.  for example, when you run the live cd, the HDD is given a name which may not not be the same as the one it is during the normal boot.  things get tricky here, but not too bad.
[12:45] <martinom> But without the nvidia driver of course.
[12:45] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any ideas on if i can just amend the xorg file or is it not as simple as that ?
[12:45] <martinom> Basically uses default settings.
[12:45] <advance> indus:  How is booting on a linux live cd then figuring out what partition your harddrive is on thn typing install hd(0.0)
[12:45] <Gnea> JessicaParker: amend or append?
[12:45] <martinom> Tried to play around with nvidia-settings with no results.
[12:46] <advance> martinom:  do you have a scroll wheel?
[12:46] <rdw200169> so, for example, if your regular hdd is called /dev/sda in the live cd, you would run $ grub-install /dev/sda
[12:46] <martinom> advance: I've tried actually 'zooming' yeah. :)
[12:46] <mater> Radtoo, i don't see a choice to use old partitions during ubuntu reinstall, or rather fresh install
[12:46] <martinom> It's more of a resolution problem.
[12:46] <advance> martinom:  Hey you never know lol.
[12:46] <sacarlson> ﻿martinom: oh nvidia I have similar problem with nvidia I just us nv for now
[12:46] <advance> rdw200169:  Nah no you wouldn't
[12:46] <Mechdave> indus, Problem solved, just a APIC error... rebooted now fine thx
[12:46] <martinom> sacarlson: Problem is that I'm developing with CUDA...
[12:46] <rdw200169> or, on the other hand, if its /dev/sdb or /dev/hda or whatever, the $ grub-install still works.  the key is that you can use /dev/ names instead of the name from the device map, which makes things quite a bit easier in the long run
[12:46] <Radtoo> mater: It has no "free" space to work with at the moment but if you tell it to use the existing ubuntu partitiosn all wil be fine. As for #rootkit, sorry, no. I also don't know everything or make no mistakes, its good if other people think along :)
[12:46] <martinom> I need the driver to work :)
[12:46] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any / either - amend would be better as then i know the setting is there............i had one really bad experience with these files and had to do a reinstall as i could not recover the copy properly so painful hence the reluctance
[12:47] <TheZanke> just took my lappy completely appart... cleaned every chip with isopropyl alcohol, air dusted (with an air compressor) the whole thing... re-thermal pasted it all with articsilver-5 and put it all back together perfectly.... still tons of errors in memtest86+... guess it really is my ram. :'(
[12:47] <indus> Mechdave: cool
[12:47] <Gnea> JessicaParker: if you mean, by amend, to edit and save settings to the current xorg.conf file, then yes, that is possible. i've done it for years, when necessary (used to be necessary ALL the time, back when it wasn't so fancy ;) ), and it can still be done - the nice thing, today, is that if you goof it up, you can still revert with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:47] <martinom> Of course, I'm able to do stuff with my screen looking the way it does now... But it's f***ing irritating.
[12:47] <indus> Mechdave: can you share how you got it solved
[12:47] <Gnea> JessicaParker: understood
[12:47] <sacarlson> ﻿martinom: well did you try nvidia.com latest driver release NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.04-pkg2.run
[12:47] <mater> if anybody can help me out on rootkit problem and reinstalling ubuntu, please join #rootkit. there is too much traffic here, i can't follow it
[12:48] <advance> rdw200169:  Dude you have to specify what partition on what hardrive it is on once in the GRUB menu http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm?page=6
[12:48] <Radtoo> mater: You can. "Manually edit partition table" at worst
[12:48] <martinom> sacarlson: Hmm... I guess I'm currently running 180 or something.
[12:48] <martinom> Wouldn't hurt to try.
[12:48] <oxbow> slt
[12:48] <stargazer84> hello
[12:48] <indus> mater:boot from live cd >open terminal >type sudo grub
[12:48] <oxbow> ya des french ici ?
[12:48] <JessicaParker> Gnea: any ideas on the change / addition required ?
[12:48] <sacarlson> ﻿martinom:  try that if you really have to have the real thing working before you give up
[12:48] <Blinkiz> Hi there. I need to mount a logical volume on my host system. The logical volume contains multiply partition so its not that easy as just doing "mount". Can someone help me with this? If I remember correctly, its something with loop.
[12:48] <Mechdave> indus, yeah just rebooted and restarted live disk
[12:49] <martinom> sacarlson: Mhm.
[12:49] <oxbow> erf
[12:49] <martinom> sacarlson: But that's the beta driver?
[12:49] <sacarlson> ﻿martinom:  and tell me how it goes.  if it works I'll do it too
[12:49] <indus> Mechdave: cheers
[12:49] <indus> :)
[12:49] <Radtoo> oxbow: surely but everybody talks english. try #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <martinom> Bah, forgot to run irssi in screen.
[12:49] <martinom> bbl
[12:49] <oxbow> ok
[12:49] <sacarlson> ﻿martinom:  ya so beta test it we know the 180 fails to work
[12:50] <sacarlson> ﻿martinom:  other wise live with nv
[12:50] <dostoyevsky> Hello
[12:50] <martinom> w00t
[12:50] <Gnea> JessicaParker: the best way to learn, is to first make a backup of your important data - hopefully you have done that already, but if you're nervous about screwing your whole system up, I would highly recommend getting the important things taken care of first.
[12:50] <dostoyevsky> How can I remove all my wlan passwords from ubuntu?
[12:51] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: there's many ways you could have saved them...
[12:51] <h-kan> hi folks... anyone know anything about hald
[12:51] <sacarlson> wlan passwors?
[12:51] <JessicaParker> Gnea: ok after i have done that ? is there a line that can be added to identify the primary and secondary monitro in the xorg file ? thanks
[12:51] <rdw200169> advance, i'm referring to this: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[12:51] <Ubuntus> Hi everyone!
[12:51] <sacarlson> dostoyevsky: maybe you mean keys?
[12:51] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: It's in the password manager...
[12:51] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: if its an individual applcation, the most safe way might to just delete its configuration in your home directory?
[12:51] <error404notfound> i just upgraded a machine from intrepid to jaunty and i can't open a terminal or do an ssh to it: http://pastebin.com/m640a1cac
[12:52] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: Okay. Doesn't it support deleting entries?
[12:52] <mater> hey can you guy help me out on trying to boot from old ubuntu? join the #rootkit, there is way too much traffic here
[12:52] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: It's "gpass", right?
[12:52] <Gnea> JessicaParker: there are a number of resources out there, but I recommend starting with these and googling from there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=806904 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652745 http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
[12:52] <h-kan> im running on tty1 and when i plug in an usb key I got stdout messages on tty1 about the devices and I want to turn it off.
[12:53] <Gnea> JessicaParker: also, the manpage for xrandr is well written
[12:53] <Ubuntus> Maybe someone can help me please
[12:53] <JessicaParker> Gnea: thanks for the pointers i will look over these now
[12:53] <rdw200169> !ask | Ubuntus
[12:53] <Gnea> JessicaParker: cheers, good luck
[12:53] <Mechdave> Ubuntus, ask your question :)
[12:53] <dostoyevsky> Is gnome standard on ubuntu?
[12:53] <drkimble> buntus get on with it
[12:53] <dostoyevsky> I thint it's the gnome password manager
[12:54] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: gnome keyring?
[12:54] <drkimble> :)
[12:54] <rdw200169> drkimble, i think someone has watched too much Monty Python (wait that's impossible...)
[12:54] <dostoyevsky> Ahh... it's seahorse
[12:54] <drkimble> lol
[12:54]  * drkimble utubes
[12:54] <mater> k, one more tim: i have ubuntu installed. but i can't boot from it cause my primary loader is bad
[12:55] <dostoyevsky> I can delete the password there yes, but it doesn't go away... :-(
[12:55] <indus> mater
[12:55] <indus> mater:
[12:55] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: k, problem solved? :)
[12:55] <Ubuntus> I'm trying to install a Proxy Server, with Ubuntu Server 9.04, but I'm having many troubles...
[12:56] <indus> Blinkiz: hi
[12:56] <Radtoo> Ubuntus: a proxy for... http?
[12:56] <peppot> how to open a second console in recovery netroot?
[12:56] <Ubuntus> I used Squid 3.0, Sarg, Dansguardian and Two ethernet adapters
[12:56] <sacarlson> ﻿Ubuntus: what proxy server did you install?
[12:56] <Ubuntus> yes...
[12:56] <Radtoo> peppot: "screen" lets you have many "consoles" in one session, but perhaps alt-f2 also works to switch to another terminal?
[12:57] <peppot> Radtoo: it only opens one by default
[12:57] <peppot> Radtoo: need to have many to paste across etc
[12:57] <peppot> anyone know?
[12:57] <peppot> more consoles in recovery mode?
[12:57] <sacarlson> ﻿Ubuntus: I did it before long ago squid
[12:58] <Ubuntus> I was planning to control the internet access but, I have failed to make it run...
[12:58] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: I deleted the password in seahorse but when I try to connect to my wlan it will still try to use the password that I just deleted..  It won't use the password I entered in the dialoge...  I see a timeout and then I get "Authentication require by wireless network'  If I click on '[ ] show password' there, I see that it's still using the old password...
[12:59] <iBoar> Is there anyone konws how to organize my tor ,I still can not connect Youtube here.
[12:59] <dostoyevsky> I was thinking of maybe doing the wlan connect in a shell script instead of using gnome...
[12:59] <sacarlson> ﻿Ubuntus:  you mean restrict access with password or?
[13:00] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: hm. hard to say if something went wrong or if it's not really managed the way we think either way. :)
[13:00] <nnull> iBoar, public exit nodes are kinda useless for alot of things like http, 3 lines of php can detect if your coming out through a public listed node
[13:01] <nnull> (which youtube,google etc probably have implemented)
[13:01] <dostoyevsky> Yeah... I remember that there's people on ubuntuforums who have similar problems and no real solution...  It seems like seahorse and gnome-key-manager are incompatible in some way or another...
[13:01] <Radtoo> iBoar: Its hard to get Tor right and impractical for videos, torrent, etc...
[13:01] <c0p3rn1c> how would I download this key from the terminal ? http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB9F1C432AE74AE63  wget doesnt work
[13:01] <error404notfound> anyone who could help me with: http://pastebin.com/m640a1cac
[13:01] <Radtoo> iBoar: These are fairly high-volume transfers and you'll find it's a pain to use tor for these either way, if its not outright blocked by the other end
[13:01] <Ubuntus> No. its just to control the internet access and define the blocked content
[13:01] <dostoyevsky> But if I knew where gnome stores the passwords (the file) then maybe I could delete it...
[13:01] <nnull> it's unethical to torrent via public nodes..
[13:02] <Radtoo> nnull: not everyone's ethics, apparently...
[13:02] <susscorfa> is there a way to change the default editor from gedit to gvim ?
[13:03] <susscorfa> it is not in prefered apps
[13:03] <JockyWilson> Weather applet Ubuntu 9.04 click on Forecast and = "Forecast not currently available for this location." Is there a fix ?
[13:03] <Radtoo> susscorfa: basically, changing file associations in gnome?
[13:03] <rdw200169> susscorfa, does it open gedit from the command line?
[13:03] <c0p3rn1c> susscorfa: just right click and choose open with, and make sure after you select your app from the list that you check use costum command
[13:03] <Blinkiz> indus, Hi to you too
[13:03] <nnull> yea open with ftw
[13:04] <rdw200169> susscorfa, b/c you can use update-alternatives to set the default editor for the command line, using: $ update-alternatives editor
[13:04] <susscorfa> c0p3rn1c: means i have to set it for every extention seperatly
[13:04] <dostoyevsky> Hmm... I have some files having 'keyring' in their name below  ~/.gconf/ and one below ~/.gnome2/.  Maybe I try to delete them
[13:04] <ruadh> Can anyone recommend a good photo editor along the lines of Photoshop Elements ?
[13:04] <susscorfa> rdw200169: i want to set the gui editor and not the cli  editor
[13:04] <c0p3rn1c> susscorfa: I don't know how to script it sorry
[13:04] <Radtoo> susscorfa: /etc/gnome/defaults.list ~/.local/share/applications/ also might work
[13:04] <pronoy_> ruadh: The Gimp
[13:04] <Radtoo> ruadh: gimp, krita, ...
[13:04] <pronoy_> ruadh: the best !!
[13:04] <martinom> sacarlson: Driver didn't help.
[13:05] <rdw200169> susscorfa, whoops, meant: update-alternatives --config editor
[13:05] <ruadh> thanks, pronoy_ and Radtoo
[13:05] <c0p3rn1c> why can't wget download this key http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB9F1C432AE74AE63
[13:05] <susscorfa> Radtoo: thx im gone give that a try
[13:06] <c0p3rn1c> I'm getting a http 500 error code
[13:06] <iBoar> Does gnome own the same thing to organize My
[13:06] <iBoar> Does gnome own the same thing to organize My Photos ,like digikama in KDE?
[13:07] <Radtoo> c0p3rn1c: same. are you sure the link is good and all?
[13:07] <c0p3rn1c> Radtoo: yes
[13:07] <pronoy_> iBoar: it has fspot
[13:07] <iBoar> pronoy_, like picasa?
[13:08] <rdw200169> susscorfa, don't forget my suggestion, just remember it, one day the whole update-alternatives system will prove useful to you ;)
[13:08] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: I deleted those keyring directories...  I still see the password being used...
[13:08] <susscorfa> ok thx rdw200169
[13:08] <pronoy_> iBoar: picasa would offer a multitude of other options other than just organizing........fspot will organize upload and stuff
[13:08] <pronoy_> iBoar: if you need a decent photo editor i suggest GIMP its the best i have come across yet
[13:09] <iBoar> pronoy_, hmm,ths
[13:09] <pronoy_> !timidity
[13:09] <armando> alguem do rj
[13:10] <pronoy_> man....
[13:10] <drkimble> ruadh: gimp is the best linux has to offer
[13:10] <drkimble> good too
[13:10] <Chiliblue> x files
[13:10] <tomlee263> who knows ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix?
[13:10] <drkimble> just not good as but hey man, understand the money involved
[13:11] <hittt> I dont like netbook remix
[13:11] <pirolocito> tomlee263, i knew 8.10 netbook
[13:11] <pirolocito> i dont like
[13:11] <pirolocito> and in my 701 become slow
[13:11] <tomlee263> pirolocito:hehe.
[13:11] <gharz> guys, i've just run rm -fr foo.bar ... is there a way that i can recover that file?
[13:11] <Ubuntus> I installed ubuntu server and configured two ethernet cards, with the eth0 being used to connect and  eth2 to access the internet.
[13:12] <gharz> please help
[13:12] <hittt> well
[13:12] <hittt> no
[13:12] <drkimble> ruadh: www.gimp.org
[13:12] <Guest34988> hi guys i would like to know if a process running on my system runs on a single cpu or both the two cpu of my desktop.....how can i know it????
[13:12] <hittt> there are very rare linux file recovery
[13:12] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, have you tested your router/proxy/switch *without* squid running?
[13:12] <pronoy_> gharz: nopew
[13:12] <gharz> nopew? tha's the command?
[13:12] <drkimble> actually why these top software dont do linux releases as well baffles me, would not cut into profits at all
[13:13] <hittt> and even if there are, journaled fs kills it
[13:13] <pirolocito> Guest34988, run top
[13:13] <pronoy_> gharz: thats the answer NOPE
[13:13] <gharz> ahhh
[13:13] <gharz> oh my god
[13:13] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, in order to control access you don't *have* to use a proxy. there are other options, like coova-chilli
[13:13] <gharz> thanks!
[13:13] <hittt> np
[13:13] <Guest34988> top doesn't tell me this information
[13:13] <Boohbah> drkimble: because it takes valuable developers
[13:13] <pronoy_> gharz: u see unix platform has the best security ...rm -r is the command which leaves no traces
[13:13] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, consequentially, using something like that also gives you similar options like bandwidth/volume control etc... but its not easy.  well, i guess you could say, its just as difficult
[13:14] <indus> gharz: its possible but in theory
[13:14] <hittt> well
[13:14] <hittt> shred isfor security :P
[13:14] <drkimble> Boohbah:  but they make loads, code is there, all they have to do is port I guess
[13:14] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: yes, guess it's stored elsewhere then but I don't know where, sorry. :/
[13:15] <dostoyevsky> How do I connect to a wlan in the unix shell, what's the program called?  I think it was something like ifwconfig or so...
[13:15] <Boohbah> drkimble: which is not always as simple as it sounds
[13:15] <hittt> iwconfig?
[13:15] <hittt> ifconfig?
[13:15] <drkimble> Boohbah: the real reason is they just do not want people to use Linux par se
[13:15] <drkimble> I reckons anyways
[13:15] <Ubuntus> i am accessing the internet on server, even with squid intalled, but when i try to connect some pc on the eth0, the connection fails
[13:16] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, i consider chilli + firewall to be %1000 times more secure than something more fallible like squid... chilli uses standardized access control mechanisms in order to control access, and is very popular in the linux-router world...
[13:16] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, have you made sure that forwarding is enabled?
[13:16] <AdvoWork> anyone here know what logs to look in for all emails coming in from a certain sender email?
[13:16] <drkimble> ms control thing I reckon
[13:16] <indus> gharz: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com/2006/09/recover-from-rm.html
[13:16] <dostoyevsky> Yeah, iwconfig it seems to be...  Yeah, will try to do this in a shell script...   Maybe I find a nice description how I can do all the things that gnome usually does from the shell
[13:16] <drkimble> Borg, resistance is futile and all that
[13:17] <pronoy_> indus: does this really work
[13:17] <advance> Hey how do I get an X11 ID?
[13:17] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, ensure that this file has a 1 in it: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[13:17] <pronoy_> indus: because it defies all what i have read and seen up till now
[13:17] <advance> For some window?
[13:17] <hittt> dostoyevsky, gnome does less than a shell
[13:17] <indus> pronoy_: well this world is full of surprises
[13:18] <pronoy_> indus: yeah you just did scream SURPRISE at my face ..... :D
[13:18] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: I can explain the used technologies to some extent. iwconfig for setting the essid or WEP, but WPA/WPA2 is usually done using wpa_supplicant.
[13:18] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, I'm assuming of course that your networking configuration and all that are appropriate
[13:18] <indus> pronoy_: the fact is>> unless new data writes to that portion of hard drive, it isnt really deleted
[13:18] <AdvoWork> can i search all log files in /var/log for certain text?
[13:19] <hittt> yes
[13:19] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, consequentially, you may also need to set up NAT using iptables
[13:19] <indus> pronoy_: its somethin to do with the way a hard drive stores data in nodes
[13:19] <Boohbah> AdvoWork: grep text /var/log/*
[13:19] <hittt> hes fast D:
[13:19] <drkimble> AdvoWork: sure
[13:19] <pronoy_> indus: oh yes i think i knew that.......but i never knew there was a way to recover it ... i just know it how to do that using hardware resensetizers
[13:19] <Proteus> yo all
[13:19] <indus> pronoy_: google is great >but it seems complicated though
[13:19] <Boohbah> !hi | Proteus
[13:20] <Ubuntus> I used some commands like ==> modprobe iptable_nat ==>modprobe ip_nat_ftp ==>echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward==>iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth -j MASQUERADE ==> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128
[13:20] <hittt> what is the difference between "su" and "su -" ???
[13:20] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: Should make it a bit easier to understand any howto / tutorial you might stumble upon now, as this is a bit non-obivous a thing. also, running iwconfig, wpa_supplicant and then dhcpcd  from the command line (provided correct configuration for wpa_supplicant is present) already usually does the job for the simple scenarios.
[13:20] <Boohbah> hittt: the minus reads the profile
[13:20] <Guest34988> how to know how many cpu is being used by a process??
[13:20] <pronoy_> indus: sure thing .....thanks
[13:20] <hittt> thx!
[13:20] <dostoyevsky> Radtoo: According to my route I am using WPA-PSK, so wpa_supplicant might be what I need to use
[13:20] <indus> hittt: only su means a command and su - means you are about to give some option to su
[13:20] <hittt> yea
[13:20] <hittt> but with su
[13:21] <pronoy_> !sudo | hittt
[13:21] <hittt> i wansnt able to modify some kernel things
[13:21] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, hmm... looks good so far...
[13:21] <indus> hittt:just like , hittt is your name, but hittt -please smile is something u do
[13:21] <indus> :)
[13:21] <hittt> :)
[13:21] <indus> hittt: kernel things <gulp>
[13:21] <hittt> lol
[13:21] <indus> su is switch user i believe
[13:21] <indus> su -i
[13:22] <hittt> yes
[13:22] <Radtoo> dostoyevsky: it almost certainly is used... I think all the drivers that had some exotic way of setting up wpa are out of the kernel now
[13:22] <hittt> but just su
[13:22] <hittt> is root
[13:22] <Radtoo> Guest34988: I like htop (command line application)... :)
[13:22] <indus> hittt: ya it wont work mostly cos we dont have root user
[13:22] <hittt> su root, sudo -i, sudo su , sudo su root
[13:23] <hittt> gotta check sudo su root!
[13:23] <Pici> hittt: you cannot su to root if the root account is locked, like it is on Ubuntu.
[13:23] <indus> hittt: do a sudo su
[13:23] <hittt> pici:I unlocked it
[13:23] <cybersplice> hittt: if you want to su  to root, use sudo -s. If you really want to su to root directly, sudo -s, then passwd to set a root password.
[13:23] <indus> you get a root terminal
[13:23] <drkimble> will Ubuntu ever give root back to us?
[13:23] <hittt> indus: i am bored of sudo su
[13:23] <indus> hittt: iam bored of sudo :)
[13:23] <Boohbah> drkimble: my ubuntu has a root user with a password
[13:24] <Radtoo> Guest34988: but well, most people would use gnome system monitor. or something.
[13:24] <drkimble> ooh :)
[13:24] <hittt> mine too
[13:24] <drkimble> care to share
[13:24] <indus> Boohbah: arent we supposed to add that to etc sudoers?
[13:24] <Pici> We do not support having a root password
[13:24] <indus> Pici: Ya
[13:24] <Pici> !wfm
[13:24] <cybersplice> indus: sudo -s, then passwd to set a password on the root account.
[13:24] <drkimble> my server is DEb etch and always has been and will be till I get root in Bunt :)
[13:24] <Pici> !ot
[13:25] <indus> cybersplice: thanks let me try
[13:25] <hittt> passwd $USER    to set your own password?
[13:25] <wart> Hi.  I'm installing easypeasy as a first time ubuntu user.  I'm currently running gentoo and noted that the installation program unetbootbin-eeeubuntu* requires all sorts of packages.  Can't I just use dd to write the iso file to a usb stick?
[13:25] <Boohbah> Pici: that's fine, i didn't ask for support :)
[13:25] <indus> cybersplice: but i always use sudo su and use root terminal
[13:26] <drkimble> ooh :)
[13:26] <drkimble> lol
[13:26] <indus> sudo -s is same i think
[13:26] <indus> baah never mind
[13:26] <gdf> http://www.Marie-gets-Deflowered.com/?id=d31c9d59
[13:26] <drkimble> is there a Bunt chat?
[13:26] <pronoy_> gdf ???
[13:27] <drkimble> !chat
[13:27] <indus> lol
[13:27] <Gnea> drive-by spam
[13:27] <hittt> X-Chat ftw
[13:27] <luis> hey how can i put avant window navigator on top of the screen?
[13:27] <Bodsda> Hi, i started removing gnome packages to get just fluxbox, I used this as a guide -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE#Remove%20Ubuntu%20Packages -- unfortunately I know have lost the use of sound, does anyone have any ideas what package/s need to be reinstalled to regain my sound?
[13:27] <cybersplice> indus: Yes, sudo -s is the same as sudo su. If you really want to set a password on the root account, you can do so with passwd. You'll find, however, that neither canonical or #ubuntu will support that. It's not really needed for most things.
[13:27] <illsci> how do you change the default python version on ubuntu?
[13:27] <illsci> do you use pycentral or somethign like that
[13:28] <indus> cybersplice: because i used system password and got root account
[13:28] <hittt> is Gobuntu crap?
[13:28] <drkimble> what is gobuntu?
[13:28] <indus> cybersplice: hmm so just typing su in terminal needs root password hmm
[13:28] <utakbiya> hello...why is gyachi improved version cant use voice chat or something
[13:28] <cybersplice> Doesn't exist aymore, does it?
[13:28] <hittt> GNU ubuntu
[13:28] <hittt> I think
[13:28] <indus> cybersplice: no wonder i couldnt log in
[13:28] <cybersplice> indus: you need to set a root password before you can use it.
[13:28] <cybersplice> indus: Exactly.
[13:29] <indus> cybersplice: can you tell me that root pasword step again
[13:29] <popey> !gobuntu
[13:29] <Bodsda> i didnt think we were allowed to tell people how to set a root password...?
[13:30] <popey> indus: you dont need a root password, you can use "sudo -i" to switch to a root like terminal
[13:30] <kyle_> hey can anybody help me loading emerald on jaunty
[13:30] <hittt> what was the command to clean the trash??? sudo rm -rf Trash:///
[13:30] <hittt> ?
[13:30] <drkimble> so many flavours I dont know which I like best
[13:30] <pronoy_> kyle_: what's the problem?
[13:30] <popey> !ops hittt
[13:30] <hittt> kyle_: whats the problem
[13:30] <luis> hey how can i put avant window navigator on top of the screen?
[13:30] <hittt> D:
[13:31] <Bodsda> luis: you can set things like that in awn-manager#
[13:31] <Ubuntus> Anyway, i am using  the eth2 to connect with internet now, and i connected an ADSL modem on eth0 and it worked very well, so there's no problem with my network cards, i think
[13:31] <Bodsda> luis: you can set things like that in awn-manager
[13:31] <kyle_> i dont know how to load it... i got emerald manager and compiz manager and i dont know what to do next
[13:31] <drkimble> luis: that should be simple, just check prefs/opts
[13:31] <hittt> ummm
[13:31] <cybersplice> indus: You can sudo -s to get a root terminal, then set the password with the command passwd. I'd reinforce the comments of others that you really shouldn't set a root password or use the root account unless you know precicely what you're doing. :)
[13:31] <popey> !root | indus
[13:32] <Bodsda> cybersplice: and if he knew precisely what he is doing, he wouldnt need to ask how to do it
[13:32] <indus> popey: i know i know
[13:32] <pronoy_> kyle_: download an emerald theme select it
[13:32] <cybersplice> Bodsda: People need to learn somehow. ;)
[13:32] <pronoy_> kyle_: and issue this command in the terminal emerald --replace
[13:32] <indus> cybersplice: using sudo -s immediately asks for password ? how do i set it then
[13:32] <kyle_> okay give me a sec to do that
[13:32] <Bodsda> cybersplice: true, but i dont think we are allowed to tell people that in here
[13:32] <drkimble> whats this no root unless you know what your doing rubbish
[13:33] <Bodsda> indus: it is asking for the sudo password not the root password
[13:33] <indus> no no no
[13:33] <Bodsda> drkimble: its not rubbish its common sense
[13:33] <pronoy_> kyle_: if you want that emerald should be permanent window decorater you can go to sessions and add a new session having the command emerald --replace and make it run at startup
[13:33] <Ubuntus> I have tested the network adapters and they are working
[13:33] <drkimble> if someone does not know linux its hard enough for him her to get to root lol
[13:33] <Bodsda> Hi, i started removing gnome packages to get just fluxbox, I used this as a guide -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE#Remove%20Ubuntu%20Packages -- unfortunately I know have lost the use of sound, does anyone have any ideas what package/s need to be reinstalled to regain my sound?
[13:33] <luis> Bodsda: cant find this option inside awn-manager :P
[13:33] <popey> Bodsda: artsd?
[13:34] <pronoy_> luis: i don't think there is one in awn-manager.....hang on i'll check again
[13:34] <drkimble> and if anyone comes across root, it will be through a warning
[13:34] <indus> aah yes
[13:34] <Bodsda> popey: whats artsd?
[13:34] <popey> !info artsd
[13:34] <popey> bah
[13:34] <Bodsda> !find artsd
[13:34] <drkimble> or used to be
[13:34] <hittt> !info ccsm
[13:34] <hittt> weird
[13:34] <Bodsda> !info compizconfig-settings-manager | hitt
[13:35] <popey> or simple-ccsm
[13:35] <hittt> D:
[13:35] <bentob0x> why can't I listen to Amarok and watching a Flash video at the same time (well, the video works but not the sound)?
[13:35] <drkimble> who ever uses root and knows jack about it is not important anyway, ceratinly no sysadmin
[13:35] <indus> cybersplice: heh i figured it our
[13:35] <cybersplice> indus: Good. Remember we won't be able to help you if you break it. :)
[13:35] <Bodsda> drkimble: we do not assume everyone is a sysadmin, and personal views about who should be doing what are not really on topic for this channel, #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to talk to people about that please
[13:36] <indus> cybersplice: what can i break?
[13:36] <Ubuntus> I installed Squid3.0STABLE14, plus removed and reinstalled but i can't connect another machines on my server
[13:36] <Bodsda> indus: everything
[13:36] <drkimble> we need a new Ubuntu release, no root or with root lol
[13:36] <Bodsda> !ot | drkimble
[13:36] <indus> cybersplice: we can break everyhing with sudo also no?
[13:36] <xand> matx: tut
[13:36] <Bodsda> indus: yes
[13:36] <matx> sup xand
[13:36] <drkimble> Bodsda: ok sry
[13:36] <cybersplice> indus: You can break the whole system. In theory, you could delete every file in the operating system.
[13:36] <xand> :P
[13:36] <mrefg> hai
[13:36] <Bodsda> drkimble: thank you
[13:36] <drkimble> :)
[13:36] <cybersplice> indus: Correct.
[13:36] <bird> hello
[13:36] <mrefg> How do I install ubuntu onto windows vista?
[13:36] <indus> like rm -rm and you know what :P
[13:36] <Bodsda> !hi | bird
[13:37] <hittt> well
[13:37] <hittt> *
[13:37] <indus> i mean rm - rf
[13:37] <hittt>  /
[13:37] <indus> sorry rm -rf
[13:37] <mrefg> How do I install ubuntu onto windows vista?
[13:37] <Bodsda> indus: please dont write that whole command
[13:37] <pronoy_> luis: sorry to be the bearer of bad news....but you can't change its position
[13:37] <indus> i didnt say it hittt did
[13:37] <Bodsda> !wubi | mrefg
[13:37] <pronoy_> luis: you can try cairo-dock instead
[13:37] <hittt> nor did I
[13:37] <hittt> I said /
[13:37] <indus> Bodsda: yes iam awarre i didnt
[13:37] <kyle_> it worked thanks
[13:37] <mrefg> ok
[13:37] <luis> pronoy_: thanks
[13:37] <indus> nor did he :)
[13:37] <mrefg> where do I get ubuntu from
[13:37] <drkimble> I just like to argue sometimes, breaks the day here abit
[13:37] <hittt> :)
[13:37] <Radtoo> mrefg: "over"... can't really do it as such. You can install it besides, or instead of vista.
[13:37] <indus> iam a responsible chap
[13:37] <pronoy_> mrefg: shipit.ubuntu.com
[13:37] <kyle_> which file do i put in the startup programs for emerald
[13:37] <indus> cybersplice: thanks a lot , learnt a few things
[13:38] <pirolocito> mrefg, www.ubuntu.com
[13:38] <mrefg> I heard gentoo is better then ubuntu
[13:38] <pronoy_> kyle_: go to sessions
[13:38] <Bodsda> indus: hittt -- Still, that command, whether intended as a joke or not, is not welcome in this channel
[13:38] <mrefg> is this true?
[13:38] <drkimble> and help where I can I might add
[13:38] <frybye> mrefg: how do you mean "install into-" you mean a dual-boot option or what?
[13:38] <Bodsda> mrefg: define better
[13:38] <indus> which one the remove one?
[13:38] <Radtoo> mrefg: Not if you have to ask.
[13:38] <hittt> Bodsda: rm ....... is not a jole
[13:38] <pirolocito> mrefg, i heard volkswagen was better than opel
[13:38] <ikonia> mrefg: thats personal opinion see what works for you
[13:38] <mrefg> everything is faster and stabler
[13:38] <H_M-Ubuntu> "[08:37:42 AM] <drkimble> I just like to argue sometimes, breaks the day here abit" Isn't that the definition of a troll?... Kidding! Kidding.
[13:38] <hittt> *joke
[13:38] <indus> Bodsda: its a generic command
[13:38] <kyle_> cant find it is it in the emerald manager window
[13:38] <ikonia> hittt: if you could cut down on the gags please, this is a pretty busy channel as you can see
[13:38] <drkimble> I am not a troll
[13:38] <mrefg> do you get hacking programs with ubuntu
[13:38] <Bodsda> hittt: no it is not, it is a useful tool, but like all tools, if used incorrectly, they are dangerous
[13:38] <drkimble> silly
[13:38] <Bodsda> mrefg: yep
[13:38] <pronoy_> kyle_: go to system > preferences > sessions
[13:39] <mrefg> cause I read on a website you get hacking programs with gentoo
[13:39] <TheZanke> how does one get a webcame to work on stickam in ubuntu? its the only thing stopping me from being 100% linux at this point
[13:39] <ikonia> mrefg: no - please read www.ubuntu.com to get an idea what ubuntu is about
[13:39] <rdw200169> Ubuntus, have you performed all the basic ping-type tests?  for example, since you're using a simple iptables redirect for the proxy, all other networking should be native to the router.  thus, you should be able to ping the server's LAN IP from a client, the server's WAN IP, etc...
[13:39] <mrefg> ikonia no
[13:39] <mrefg> read it for me and give me the answers
[13:39] <pirolocito> sometime i read, dont matter what distro you use, start with one and make it at your flavour
[13:39] <pirolocito> thats the one for you
[13:39] <ikonia> mrefg: please read the web page
[13:39] <kyle_> its not there
[13:39] <mrefg> I just want to hack this kid I don't like
[13:39] <ther3ald3al> olol
[13:39] <RedMachineD> Greetings, Linuxfaggots
[13:39] <pronoy_> kyle_: what ?? are you on ubuntu ??
[13:39] <kyle_> yes
[13:39] <mrefg> why should I know better
[13:39] <ikonia> mrefg: we ill not support that
[13:39] <mrefg> I've never been here before
[13:40] <hittt> Bodsda: I know many people that the first command they find on their path, they type it into terminal
[13:40] <Radtoo> mrefg: most distros can run the same programs without much effort, and ubuntu has a real lot of programs (like gentoo). So. Yes. you get wahtever you want I think.
[13:40] <drkimble> mrefg: you will not get far...
[13:40]  * cybersplice lubs root.
[13:40] <pronoy_> kyle_: go to system > preferences > sessions tab ......has to be there.......are you using 9.04 ?
[13:40] <frybye> mrefg - what you are looking for is on the other side of town ...
[13:40] <kyle_> yes
[13:40] <mrefg> frybye and what would that be?
[13:40] <Bodsda> hittt: then you should educate your friends to a higher standard
[13:40] <ikonia> frybye: pleaes don't feed the situation
[13:40] <TheZanke> mrefg: rm -rf /*
[13:40] <mrefg> ikonia feed what?
[13:40] <mrefg> whats that mean
[13:40] <indus> is this channel rules similar to forums? on the rm commands etc
[13:40] <drkimble> hacking someone is not nice and illegal anyways
[13:41] <mrefg> I don't know how to linux yet
[13:41] <mrefg> I just want to know which one to install
[13:41] <Bodsda> !ops | TheZanke
[13:41] <TheZanke> bawww, i was just jokingg
[13:41] <pronoy_> kyle_: yes the sessions tab or yes to the 9.04 ?
[13:41] <Bodsda> bah he left
[13:41] <Bodsda> oh no hes back
[13:41] <indus> What , he hjust said the command
[13:41] <kyle_> i have 9.04 and theres no sessions tab there
[13:41] <Bodsda> TheZanke: that command is no joke
[13:41] <mybands> !info vlc
[13:41] <ikonia> TheZanke: ok - that's not a joking matter, help people - or don't, but don't give out duff advice
[13:41] <pronoy_> kyle_: hang on
[13:41] <Radtoo> mrefg: Try ubuntu then. Its fine, in particular for first-timers.
[13:41] <indus> no kick?
[13:41] <drkimble> mrefg: Ubuntu is your best bet
[13:41] <cybersplice> TheZanke: Bit irresponsible tellin people to do that, mate.
[13:41] <mrefg> Ok
[13:41] <mybands> hehe
[13:41] <mrefg> So I go to that shipit site?
[13:42] <mybands> i cannot install some program
[13:42] <ikonia> mrefg: the info is on http://www.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <mybands> why
[13:42] <mybands> ??
[13:42] <Radtoo> mrefg: no, to www.ubuntu.com and download the iso,and install it, as per instructions provided
[13:42] <ikonia> mybands: what do you want to install
[13:42] <Dracofodder> how do I check that specific libraries are installed? am adding encryption to pidgin, and two pre-reqs are the nss/mspr libs, and also that pidgin was installed as dev to include the headers.  don't know how to verify this on ubuntu
[13:42] <mrefg> thank you.
[13:42] <giles__> !info xfce
[13:42] <mrefg> whats an iso?
[13:42] <drkimble> download if you dont want to wait
[13:42] <giles__> !info xubuntu
[13:42] <mrefg> How long will it take to download on dial up?
[13:42] <drkimble> torrent it over night if your busy
[13:42] <pronoy_> hey guys what's the alternative in jaunty for the sessions tab in intrepid ?
[13:42] <ikonia> mrefg: 700 meg - depends on your speed,
[13:42] <drkimble> breeze to install
[13:42] <indus> ok when we can do everything with sudo why do people keep asking for root account?
[13:42] <ther3ald3al> how much is ubuntu on cd
[13:42] <mrefg> does ubuntu have viruses?
[13:42] <saivin> mrefg: with dial-up, u may have to wait for days...
[13:42] <ikonia> mrefg: no
[13:43] <ikonia> indus: some people like using root, or dont know about sudo
[13:43] <drkimble> ther3ald3al:  free
[13:43] <mrefg> can you put microsoft office on there?
[13:43] <drkimble> always will be free
[13:43] <ther3ald3al> how do i get a cd sent out
[13:43] <hittt> Bodsda: Even if I educate them, there are loads and loads of prank cmds, like sn!+sg!& minus a char, or loads of HEX codes
[13:43] <popey> mrefg: using crossover office, yes
[13:43] <Bodsda> mrefg: with wine yes, but Open Office is just as good and installed by default
[13:43] <pronoy_> kyle_: ok you will have something called the startup applications i am guessing
[13:43] <Radtoo> mrefg: no linux or OSX or BSD has any viruses you need to worry about.
[13:43] <ikonia> mrefg: this is all detailed on ubuntu.com
[13:43] <kyle_> yes
[13:43] <drkimble> mrefg:  use openoffice
[13:43] <mrefg> no thanks Bodsda I don't drink
[13:43] <giles__> mrefg: 700mb on dial up is at best around 24 hours. my guess is that it will take you much longer
[13:43] <linuser> Hey everyone, I just wanted to congratulate you guys on having all Linux distro's come together to get a 1% marketshare! HOORAY
[13:43] <ther3ald3al> drkimble can u send me a cd out
[13:43] <saivin> mrefg: you have any equivalent of MS office, with version 3.0 it can also read your Office 2007 files..
[13:43] <indus> ikonia: i have used red hat server so in those cases being super user makes sense but i was wondering if ubuntu server edition comes with root account
[13:43] <ther3ald3al> i want 10 copies
[13:43] <Bodsda> hittt: indeed, but who would run such an obscure looking thing
[13:43] <mrefg> Can I play crysis on there??
[13:43] <Radtoo> linuser: lol... good joke :)
[13:43] <pronoy_> kyle_: now all you need to do is add this command emeral --replace
[13:44] <ikonia> indus: no more/less than the desktop edition
[13:44] <mrefg> Or Battletoads??
[13:44] <kyle_> alright
[13:44] <ikonia> mrefg: last time - this is on ubuntu.com
[13:44] <hittt> Bodsda: uneducated people
[13:44] <Bodsda> mrefg: wine is a program that allows you to run windows programs in linux
[13:44] <drkimble> ther3ald3al: why, get one of off the site?
[13:44] <ikonia> mrefg: please read the basics on ubuntu.com
[13:44] <mrefg> How much ram will ubuntu need to support battletoads
[13:44] <wtv> amarok dowsn't play music files. here's what appears when i run it from terminal: http://pastebin.com/m56acd6ad
[13:44] <Radtoo> linuser: you're wrong anyhow, but its like ubuntu-unrelated and doesn't really belong in here. Go #ubunutu-offtopic?
[13:44] <mrefg> THATS NOT ON THE WEBSITE
[13:44] <mrefg> I ASKED
[13:44] <kyle_> awesome
[13:44] <hittt> I think ubuntu and there sould have some kind of protection to these
[13:44] <Pricey> mrefg: battletoads?
[13:44] <ikonia> mrefg: it is - if you follow the support links, there is info
[13:44] <linuser> it's related, since Ubuntu's part of the distros
[13:44] <mrefg> yes battletoads
[13:44] <lundh> what do you guys think, will I see a significant performance hit if I dont have a swap?
[13:44] <hittt> they are linux fit for newbies
[13:44] <mrefg> It's mah favourite game
[13:44] <kyle_> im going to restart my computer it see if it starts up
[13:44] <drkimble> mrefg: watch the caps you will get kicked at times
[13:45] <indus> ikonia: sorry could you rephrase
[13:45] <ikonia> mrefg: https://help.ubuntu.com
[13:45] <kyle_> brb
[13:45] <giles__> i'm beginnning to think mrefg is a troll
[13:45] <pronoy_> mfreg: please tone down
[13:45] <jelly12gen> what's the problem with mrefg?
[13:45] <ikonia> indus: ubuntu server comes with a root account, but it is disabled just like the desktop install
[13:45] <giles__> a really, really bad troll
[13:45] <mrefg> Whats a troll?
[13:45] <Radtoo> linuser: not related to ubunutu SUPPORt. its chitchat. thus -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <Pricey> mrefg: You should check their website as to their specific requirements.
[13:45] <mrefg> I'm ust trying to learn about ubuntu
[13:45] <jelly12gen> mrefg don't you name yourself MrElendig ?:P
[13:45] <mrefg> my computer is fast enough
[13:45] <drkimble> its funny how caps can do that lol
[13:45] <frybye> giles__: or r a t h e r young .. by comparison...
[13:45] <saivin> lundh: not necessarily if you already have good (read >1GB) ram
[13:45] <hittt> mrefg: You dont wanna know
[13:45] <mrefg> I got it from myer
[13:45] <jelly12gen> @lol
[13:45] <jelly12gen> !lol
[13:45] <mrefg> I haven't done anything wrong
[13:45] <mrefg> I just came here to learn!!
[13:45] <giles__> think about it mr. efg
[13:45] <lundh> saivin: good. I dont want to wear the drive out if I can avoid it
[13:45] <giles__> pretty obvious
[13:45] <mrefg> and I haven't said LOL
[13:46] <ikonia> mrefg: please check out https://help.ubuntu.com
[13:46] <Pricey> !support
[13:46] <mrefg> I'm reading that now
[13:46] <linuser> Just wanted to congratulate you guys, Radtoo. It's pretty hard getting the marketshare up and over 1%
[13:46] <jelly12gen> them that ubottu bot can't do anything
[13:46] <mrefg> but I still have many questions
[13:46] <ikonia> mrefg: that will give you a good introduction to what ubuntu can/can't do
[13:46] <mrefg> and you are helpful
[13:46] <pronoy_> mfreg: you can see the list of windows applications appdb at the wine website and to know more about ubuntu basics you can do what ikonia says
[13:46] <Bodsda> mrefg: this is a support channel, not a lecture room, if you have a specific question we will be ahppy to answer it
[13:46] <mrefg> well some of you are
[13:46] <FloodBot2> mrefg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <ikonia> mrefg: a good ammount of your questions will be answered once you've read that url
[13:46] <mrefg> other's are just calling me jerks
[13:46] <ikonia> mrefg: forget others - concerntrate on your questions and the answers
[13:46] <jelly12gen> mrefg: why??
[13:46] <mrefg> I'VE READ it, I'm a speed reader
[13:46] <mrefg> In fact
[13:46] <drkimble> I hear they are going to make people register for irc access, wow, one nick and its all back to you officilally
[13:46] <indus> mrefg: crysis runs like crap on ubuntu
[13:46] <jelly12gen> mrefg: what is your problem?
[13:46] <satyagrahi> boo
[13:46] <drkimble> its official
[13:47] <giles__> kick mrefg, shit, troll is shit
[13:47] <pronoy_> indus: no it doesnt ... it works as good as on windows
[13:47] <puneeth> which driver to install on jaunty jackelope---my graphic card is nvidia geforce MX 4000 i tried installing nvidia-glx-96 driver
[13:47] <drkimble> should get rid of a load of wierdos man
[13:47] <indus> pronoy_: crysis?
[13:47] <indus> pronoy_: oops sorry wrong game
[13:47] <pronoy_> indus: yes running under 8600gt
[13:47] <ikonia> gents - please can we return to ubuntu support discussion
[13:47] <Bodsda> YAY!!
[13:48] <Bodsda> got sound back
[13:48] <bentob0x> that sound messup with Ubuntu really _really_ has to stop, I had issues with 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, 8.04 and now 9.04 (8.10 was the only one that was actually flawless for me)
[13:48] <bentob0x> sound is the very basic of everything
[13:48] <indus> iam a lady :)
[13:48] <Bodsda> bentob0x: what sound messup?
[13:48] <indus> please be nice
[13:48] <Boohbah> bentob0x: please tell the pulseaudio developers
[13:48] <bentob0x> Bodsda: it seems that for each new Ubuntu distro, there is a sound issue
[13:48] <Pricey> bentob0x: have you reported any bugs?
[13:49] <Bodsda> Boohbah: it was not an issue with pulseaudio developement if your reffering to the epic fail on 8.04
[13:49] <tecky> is there a way for me to download the iso image and mount it and do a upgrade from there?
[13:49] <drkimble> bentob0x: welcome to Linux, I have problems with 2 things at once
[13:49] <Bodsda> bentob0x: my problem was caused by me :)
[13:49] <Dracofodder> how do I check that specific libraries are installed? am adding encryption to pidgin, and two pre-reqs are the nss/mspr libs, and also that pidgin was installed as dev to include the headers.  don't know how to verify this on ubuntu
[13:49] <ikonia> tecky: not a good way of doing it to be honest,
[13:49] <indus> Bodsda: epic fail for you maybe, it worked flawless for me
[13:49] <ikonia> !upgrade > tecky
[13:49] <saivin> indus: good to have ladies in geek forums... :)
[13:49] <Radtoo> ikonia / mods: Today is an odd day, we had the same problems over in another two linux channels that are usually free of this, 'swell. Just a heads up.
[13:49] <drkimble> Linux is no magic wand man
[13:49] <bentob0x> no, I'm going through the web to see if there is already a fix for it _before_ I submit a bug
[13:49] <ikonia> tecky: check out the link about the alternative CD
[13:49] <ikonia> Radtoo: thank you
[13:49] <erUSUL> tecky: yes with the alternate CD
[13:49] <indus> saivin: bad luck iam a guy :)
[13:49] <kadaver> does Ubuntu make nay money at all?
[13:49] <erUSUL> !upgrade | tecky
[13:49] <drkimble> ms have billions on resourse
[13:49] <ikonia> kadaver: take that sort of questioning to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:49] <drkimble> resouce
[13:50] <saivin> indus: u keep changing gender? :D
[13:50] <Bodsda> kadaver: yes, canonical sell support
[13:50] <Bodsda> sorry ikonia
[13:50] <ikonia> Bodsda: no sweat, a ver valid response
[13:50] <hittt> yes
[13:50] <indus> ok gtg now, will help someone later tonight
[13:50] <Pricey> indus: SaLoMoN: chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:50] <saivin> oh.. sorry don't mean to be off-topic team...
[13:50] <tecky> ugh upgrading was soo bad from 8.10 to 9.04 a few days ago, has the network traffic cleared up?
[13:50] <hittt> i  want a shirt!
[13:50] <bentob0x> still, for more than two years that I do use Ubuntu on different hardware, the sound has been overally the most annoying feature to fix ...
[13:50] <indus> Pricey: sorry
[13:50] <ikonia> hittt: this channel is for ubuntu support only. Please follow that
[13:50] <indus> Pricey: bye now
[13:51] <saivin> ikonia is having tough time...
[13:51] <ubuntu__> hello
[13:51] <hittt> How can i make a command that needs root priviliges work without them? chmod?
[13:51] <jelly12gen> all chanel ops should have a tought time
[13:51] <Bodsda> hi ubuntu__, welcome to #ubuntu
[13:51] <ikonia> hittt: use sudo
[13:51] <jelly12gen> hittt: visudo
[13:52] <ikonia> jelly12gen: no
[13:52] <hittt> fakeroot?
[13:52] <nirc> http://www.Marie-gets-Deflowered.com/?id=d31c9d59
[13:52] <Bodsda> jelly12gen: offtopic chat about channel ops in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:52] <jelly12gen> ikonia: hah not , i can easily do the thrik
[13:52] <ikonia> hittt: fake root is nothing to do with it
[13:52] <sacarlson> ﻿ hittt: sudo
[13:53] <hittt> I dont want to use gksudo or anything like that, I thought that chmod u+X foo.bar should help me
[13:53] <ikonia> hittt: you said without chmod
[13:53] <jelly12gen> hittt: what command>
[13:53] <ikonia> hittt: if you want to use chmod - you can setuid on a program to make it run as root
[13:53] <Bodsda> hittt: a command that needs root privileges needs sudo, anything that requires root privileges needs sudo
[13:53] <hittt> Ikonia: i meant with chmod command to get away from sudo
[13:53] <sacarlson> ﻿ hittt: I sometimes makes scripts that have the command sudo in it and setup sudo so I don't need passwords
[13:54] <ikonia> hittt: look up setuid
[13:54] <hittt> k
[13:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !wfm | sacarlson
[13:54] <bigpresh> hittt: And be aware that setuid can be a nasty security risk, particularly if you're on a multi-user machine
[13:54] <Bodsda> is fluxbuntu an official project?
[13:54] <jelly12gen> bigpresh: chown is too
[13:54] <jelly12gen> and chmod
[13:54] <puneeth> which driver to install on jaunty jackelope---my graphic card is nvidia geforce MX 4000 i tried installing nvidia-glx-96 driver
[13:55] <erUSUL> hittt: you have to think carefully what you are about to do... doing setuid or editing sudoers to make an executable "free for all" is dangerous and could have many security implications
[13:55] <jelly12gen> puneeth: google knowz
[13:55] <golas1989> !pl
[13:55] <hittt> bigpresh, it is just a shotcut i need to turn the fan on/auto. no security risk i hope
[13:55] <Bodsda> !giyf | jelly12gen
[13:55] <Bodsda> bah
[13:55] <jelly12gen> Bodsda: what ?
[13:55] <hittt> and i will store it in /usr/bin with 555
[13:55] <erUSUL> puneeth: the System>Admin>Hardware drivers does ot wrok for you?
[13:55] <Bodsda> jelly12gen: telling people to google everything is hardly helpful, he already said he has tried something
[13:55] <jelly12gen> hittt: then just use chmod
[13:55] <giles__> hey anyone here know anything about eee pc video drivers causing intrepid to hang?
[13:55] <hittt> k
[13:56] <jelly12gen> Bodsda: ofcourse he failed then , problay in tha wiki
[13:56] <nnull> jelly12gen, not sure have no problems with UNR on my eee
[13:56] <Dracofodder> ok, I found the lib list in apt-cache pkgnames
[13:56] <Bodsda> whatever
[13:57] <erUSUL> hittt: you do not know how well programed the executable is... programs that have setuid (becouse there is no other way to do it like sudo) are heavely audited
[13:57] <hittt> erUNSUL: it is a home made script 15 lines
[13:57] <Dracofodder> anyone know how to verify I have a devel install of an app?  I am trying to add the pidgin encryption and cannot verify the requirement of the development headers
[13:57] <ikonia> hittt: if you want scripting help, check out #bash
[13:57] <jelly12gen> !stfw
[13:58] <ikonia> jelly12gen: what does that mean ?
[13:58] <hittt> k
[13:58] <Bodsda> Dracofodder: just try to install it, if you have it it will tell you
[13:58] <giles__> nnull: yeah i'm thinking i might have caused some internal damage spilling a beer onto it D:
[13:58] <jelly12gen> ikonia: search the fucking wiki
[13:58] <thiebaude> !language
[13:58] <Bodsda> what is it with people today?
[13:58] <Bodsda> is it spam #ubuntu day?
[13:58] <nnull> giles__, :X
[13:58] <thiebaude> ppl sould start getting banned
[13:58] <azlon> once i have my live usb setup the way i want it, can i make an image using DD and duplicate it to another usb thumb drive? will it copy the partitions and boot information and everything?
[13:58] <ikonia> Bodsda: australia attack - looks like a troll pit, all sorted hopeflly
[13:59] <puneeth> erUSUL: it shows tht its wrking fine ubuntu cant improve it further....but wen i go to change desktop backgrnd>visual effects n click on normal...it searches for drivers n then gives error desktop graphics could not be enabled....
[13:59] <hittt> root uid is 0 right?
[13:59] <ikonia> hittt: thats it
[13:59] <Bodsda> ikonia: australia attack? hopefully sorted, ty for the kicking :)
[13:59] <hackoidz> hittt yes
[13:59] <Radtoo> hittt: yes, by convention
[13:59] <hittt> k
[13:59] <erUSUL> puneeth: and other 3d apps work fine??
[13:59] <luchador> I would need little advice with ubuntu 9.04. after the installation my ssh connections are really sticky
[13:59] <erUSUL> puneeth: gmaes and such
[14:00] <Radtoo> luchador: "sticky" meaning...?
[14:00] <tecky> luchador: what the heck did you mean by sticky? its not dropping connections?
[14:00] <luchador> Radtoo: kind of hangs for 2-10 sec time to time
[14:00] <luchador> tecky:
[14:00] <luchador> sorry
[14:00] <agionz> hi, I can't boot my ubuntu since I updated it from 8.10 hardy to the newest version. I can't get to the log in screen but the computer boots fine. I updated my ubuntu with upgrade manager directly from the internet. Here's my menu.lst if it helps http://pastebin.com/m4fa9c60a thanks for help!
[14:00] <hackoidz> maybe your connection luchador
[14:00] <hackoidz> it happened to me
[14:01] <puneeth> erUSUL: i didnt try playing games but the resolution is 800x600
[14:01] <puneeth> cant improve further..
[14:01] <Radtoo> luchador: It might go down to some driver / networking problem, or if you do bulk volume transfers over ssh a feature may not be enabled.
[14:01] <luchador> hackoidz: otherwise the connection speed seems ok
[14:01] <sacarlson> ﻿luchador: I have that problem on my wifi at times with intermitent contection
[14:01] <erUSUL> puneeth: run « glxinfo | grep -i direct » what does it says ?
[14:01] <luchador> I always use wifi with this one so it might be it
[14:02] <luchador> I did not notice any problems with bittorrent etc.
[14:02] <puneeth> erUSUL: it says yes
[14:02] <tecky> puneeth: should look something like this
[14:02] <tecky> jkroll@XPS:~$ glxinfo | grep -i direct
[14:02] <tecky> direct rendering: Yes
[14:02] <TheZanke> testing
[14:02] <TheZanke> woo!
[14:02] <erUSUL> puneeth: the drivers is corrctly instaled... to fix the resolution install nvidia-settings
[14:02] <Radtoo> luchador: yes, but ssh is more noticeable.
[14:02] <puneeth> tecky; yeah
[14:03] <luchador> Radtoo: yeah, as it happens while using irc :)
[14:03] <hackoidz> puneeth are you able to enable the desktop effects?
[14:03] <sacarlson> ﻿erUSUL:  What a working nvidia?
[14:03] <kyle_> alright emeralds looking good... do any of you know a good website for emerald themes
[14:03] <Radtoo> luchador: assuming "something else gets sent first" or "something gets sent delayed" in bittorrent you might not even notice, unlike with ssh.
[14:03] <luchador> Radtoo: actually, now I am using irssi on my local computer and do not see any problems
[14:03] <TheZanke> Now, I actually did come here with a question before that >.< Webcam+Stickam on Jaunty?
[14:03] <pronoy_> kyle_: google it
[14:04] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering if any one else was having a issue with sound only working out of one side?
[14:04] <invictus> ...
[14:04] <Bodsda> TheZanke: thats not a question
[14:04] <e-man> anyone with experience in magnetic sensors could qry me?
[14:04] <luchador> Radtoo: but always while using the screen over ssh it's really bad
[14:04] <hackoidz> puneeth?
[14:04] <sacarlson> ﻿L3dPlatedLinux:  on skype?  yes
[14:04] <tecky> luchador: resuming a screen session you get the lag ?
[14:05] <Radtoo> luchador: erhaps just wlan interference. Or overloaded connection problems. Or some packet loss. It does not sound like a problem "caused" by ubuntu though.
[14:05] <L3dPlatedLinux> sacarlson,  for me everything
[14:05] <TheZanke> Bodsda, it was when i first asked it... I am running an Alienware m9750 with an inbuilt camera and the only thing stopping me from going all ubuntu instead of dualbooting is that i cant talk to my friends on stickam with webcam.. which is what i do while i code things....
[14:05] <puneeth> hackoidz:nope it gives some error...
[14:05] <hackoidz> what is the error?
[14:05] <sacarlson> ﻿L3dPlatedLinux:  nope just skype for me
[14:05] <luchador> tecky: yeah
[14:05] <TheZanke> Bodsda, so i am asking what packages i need to get to get the webcam and stickam to work... if anyone knows
[14:05] <Bodsda> TheZanke: again, not a question, and please address the question to the channel sao everyone can benefit, say what you have tried, exact problems, error messages etc etc./
[14:05] <kryl> hi
[14:05] <kryl> I'm searching a way to use two monitor on a laptop with ATI card, openbox, xorg, perhaps xinerama ... ?
[14:06] <bartmon> Hey guys, I'm looking for a simple personal finance management program. What do you use and how did you learn to use it?
[14:06] <Radtoo> luchador: some fancy tricks like doing traffic shaping (to prioritize SSH over everything) or somesuch might help but its not easy...
[14:06] <sacarlson> ﻿L3dPlatedLinux:  oh and with my broken headphones
[14:06] <luchador> tecky, Radtoo using irc on this machine seems to run fine, I only encounter problems while connecting somewhere else over ssh
[14:06] <hackoidz> what is the error puneeth?
[14:06] <puneeth> wait
[14:06] <kryl> I use : 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[14:06] <hackoidz> puneeth: ok
[14:06] <tecky> luchador: i have to agree with Radtoo, it sounds more like a connection issue than anything in ubuntu... unless for some reason you have extensive cpu utilization or some runaway cron job?
[14:07] <sacarlson> Radtoo: I don't think he has too much trafic to try that.  he's probly just on the fringes of his wifi
[14:07] <Bodsda> what is the default font for firefox?
[14:07] <luchador> tecky: nothin like that. So it seems that my wifi is messing up ssh?
[14:07] <sacarlson> Radtoo: but I could be wrong
[14:07] <agionz> hi, I have a problem with ubuntu. I can't boot my ubuntu since I updated it from 8.10 hardy to the newest version. I can't get to the log in screen but the computer boots fine. After boot I can't get to the shell by pressing alt+ctrl+F1. I updated my ubuntu with upgrade manager directly from the internet. Here's my menu.lst if it helps http://pastebin.com/m4fa9c60a and I'm now on live cd. thanks for help!
[14:07] <tecky> luchador: is it EVERY time you reestablish a ssh connection? or just some of the times?
[14:08] <TheZanke> On a laptop, with a fresh ubuntu install... what packages do i require to get my webcam to work properly? I want it to work on stickam.. currently the webcam light just stays on at all times but no cam shows up when i get in stickam, its just black... Also when i right click for flash settings, the "Settings" option is greyed out.
[14:08] <luchador> tecky: it is all the time i use ssh
[14:08] <Zyndrof> Hey! Having trouble with my speakers... They worked fine a few days ago while I was running Ubuntu 8.10. I then reinstalled the computer with Ubuntu 9.04 and the speakers won't work anymore... Sound is good and tested with headphones... Where do I start to search for the error? (Yes, all cables are plugged :))
[14:08] <Radtoo> sacarlson: It's all possible. With wlan you can even have connection problems when you're sitting right next to the AP, unfortunately. Its just not as reliable vs interference and so on, and sensitive services like SSH suffer more than others.
[14:08] <tecky> luchador: if you ping the host on the other end of the ssh connection do you get any packet loss?
[14:08] <YuLin> hi there
[14:08] <YuLin> :)
[14:08] <hackoidz> hi YuLin
[14:09] <davidf88> its all busy in here
[14:09] <YuLin> how do you turn off the specto notificator?
[14:09] <DawnLight> dear friends, what's your favourite smtp-sender/relay-only-mta?
[14:09] <luchador> tecky: no losses
[14:10] <sacarlson> Radtoo: my problem with wifi is that most the trafic isn't from me it's from my 30 nabor ap's I can't control there trafic.
[14:10] <tecky> luchador: hmm, and its a grahical noticeable lag? I've never seen it unless the machine was at 100% util. or a connection issue to or from the pc over the ssh connection
[14:10] <Radtoo> DawnLight: exim I guess.
[14:10] <hbekel> agionz: sounds like input hotplugging is not configured correctly
[14:10] <YuLin> please :(
[14:10] <luchador> tecky: cursor stops for 5 seconds but the buffer is recieved in the end
[14:11] <agionz> hbekel: can that be fixed? how?
[14:11] <ScottG> If I started making a tar file (with lzma compression) but cut it off, will it pick up where it left off when started again?
[14:11] <ikonia> ScottG: no
[14:11] <erUSUL> ScottG: no afaik
[14:11] <DawnLight> exim? really? but it is huge in comparison to this purpose
[14:11] <hbekel> agionz: yes, disable input hotplugging in xorg.conf
[14:11] <Sotbar7> quit
[14:11] <kyle_> thanks for the help pronoy
[14:11] <agionz> hbekel: thanks, I'll try that!
[14:11] <draw> YuLin: specto notification ?
[14:11] <draw> kyle_: no prob
[14:12] <YuLin> the notification bubbles on the upper right corner that come with 9.04
[14:12] <draw> YuLin: sorry can't help
[14:12] <Radtoo> sacarlson: right, sometimes working around hardware / physics restrictions using software is not possible. but technology will get better still...
[14:12] <YuLin> :(
[14:12] <YuLin> thanks anyway
[14:13] <AntORG> Q@CServ.quakenet.org AUTH
[14:13] <ikonia> asomura_: wrong windoe, this is freenode
[14:13] <Alterios> exit
[14:13] <ikonia> AntORG: sorry , that was for alex881
[14:13] <AntORG> Q@CServ.quakenet.org AUTH MRiGnS cDFb--KV1X
[14:14] <timo> hi
[14:14] <ikonia> AntORG: your on freenode - not quakenet
[14:14] <Radtoo> DawnLight: yes, note that a small mta doesn't help me in particular. I prefer one with good documentation and "all features I might need" even if I just use two of them :)
[14:14] <urbandot> quit
[14:14] <Boohbah> Radtoo: postfix is good
[14:15] <draw> can anyone tell me what other desktop environments exist apart from gnome, kde and xcfe ?
[14:15] <Radtoo> DawnLight: besides, given that the choice of an MTA with some degree of robustness towards the ugly internet reality is essential either way, you don't have too much proven choices. Postfix, sendmail, exim, and maybe a very few more. thats it.
[14:16] <tecky> draw: openbox / blackbox / fluxbox... i'm sure if you google there's a list
[14:16] <grawity> draw: Fluxbox, Enlightenment, dwm, and a few old ones (fwm, IceWM, WindowMaker). And a few others that I can't remember.
[14:16] <timo> hey.. i ve a question: my flash player doesnt play sound - why
[14:16] <timo> im using jaunty
[14:16] <draw> grawity tecky: gotcha.....ty
[14:16] <draw> grawity: oh btw is it true that ubuntu may be moving to kde as their default dm ?
[14:16] <tecky> agh yes
[14:16] <tecky> bbl going to 9.04 >.>
[14:17] <DawnLight> Radtoo: thanks. i like exim. i'll use it for this
[14:17] <grawity> draw: I haven't heard about that, but I'm sure they aren't going to do that.
[14:17] <grawity> draw: For KDE, there's Kubuntu.
[14:17] <draw> grawity: yes i am aware thanks again
[14:17] <aroth> hi there
[14:18] <armegadon> hi there, something in the updates related to alsa and bluetooth yesterday broke my audio, as in the normal volume i now i have to use in apps and the system volume is much much higher, and everytime i change apps i have to keep adjusting the volume back and forth
[14:18] <aroth> i've a question about upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04
[14:18] <ikonia> aroth: just ask
[14:18] <davidf88> I have to save with expierence using KDE, Gnome and xfce I think gnome is the best then again personal oppinion
[14:18] <linduxed> i need to temporarily configure my comp to ave a static IP address of 192.168.0.210 and the usual subnet mask
[14:18] <linduxed> how do i do it?
[14:19] <aroth> i tried to upgrade to jaunty via the command line 'do-release-upgrade'. But it only tells me that no new release has been found.
[14:19] <djiezes> linduxed: you should be able to change those settings in your router. howto accomplish that depends on your type of router. look for a guide for your specific type of router.
[14:19] <hbekel> linduxed: ifconfig
[14:19] <coleys> aroth: Open Update Manager, and click check twice.
[14:20] <coleys> aroth: Then you should see distribution upgrade at the top of it.
[14:20] <linduxed> djiezes: i need to do it locally
[14:20] <linduxed> hbekel: any howto on that?
[14:20] <draw> linduxed: does this help ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/158011/
[14:20] <aroth> coleys: i only have the command line, because no gui is installed on the machine
[14:20] <dostoyevsky> Hmmm... wpa__suppliclant does CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS in a loop now...
[14:20] <sacarlson> ﻿linduxed: sudo ifconfig 192.168.0.210
[14:21] <dostoyevsky> endless loop that is
[14:21] <Radtoo> Boohbah: Not saying it is bad, but I feel it had quite a bunch of configuration more, which is a bit of a chore if you only want the simplest of setups. exim can do with just two simple files or so if you want it to.
[14:21] <sacarlson> opps sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.210
[14:21] <ikonia> linduxed: are you running ubuntu or arch ?
[14:21] <linduxed> draw: will check
[14:21] <usr13> I'm trying to find out why this 8.04 system is locking up.  I'm suspecting that the display adapter may have something to do with it.  It's a total lock up, you still see everthing on the [GUI] screen but no response from keyboard or mouse and cannot ping it from other PCs on the LAN. It seems to happen after several hours.  I have a terminal open to it from another PC on my LAN showing tail -f /var/log/messages I also have one showing top in hopes of some sort
[14:22] <linduxed> sacarlson: will try that
[14:22] <Radtoo> Boohbah: Thus the suggestion for exim. Not that postfix is "unacceptable" or anything for such a setup, just a wee bit more work :)
[14:22] <linduxed> ikonia: ubuntu
[14:22] <Radtoo> DawnLight: np
[14:22] <Hymnosis> could somebody help me to join ubuntu to the windows server domain?
[14:23] <draw> Hymnosis: you mean access a window's server ..which means accessing windows shares ?
[14:23] <coleys> aroth: do-release-upgrade -d
[14:23] <Hymnosis> i mean windows active directory and the services..
[14:23] <aroth> i tried it, but it does does not work either
[14:24] <usr13> !samba | Hymnosis
[14:24] <armegadon> hi there, something in the updates related to alsa and bluetooth yesterday broke my audio, as in the normal volume i now i have to use in apps and the system volume is much much higher, and everytime i change apps i have to keep adjusting the volume back and forth
[14:24] <draw> Hymnosis: you might want to download samba and then smb:\\server-name\folder
[14:25] <Hymnosis> dont i need to configure some kind of kerberos or something?
[14:25] <usr13> Hymnosis: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-configure-ubuntu-linux-for-windows-active-directory-authentication.html
[14:25] <Hymnosis> usr13 , thanks for the last link
[14:25] <coleys> aroth: Another way is to edit sources.list and... change all occurences of intrepid to jaunty
[14:26] <aroth> coleys: yes, i will try that
[14:26] <coleys> aroth: Good luck, keep me posted. :)
[14:27] <nikolai> Is it just me or is python-opengl broken on 9.04? I can't even use glGenTextures(N) when N is more than 1. Gives me a nullpointer error. Anyone have a clue?
[14:27] <Phisbut> are there any debuginfo packages in the default jaunty repositories? I can't seem to find any... what would the suffix be?
[14:27] <drkimble> whats the best utube downloader for ff plz
[14:27] <giaco> are libcrypt and libcrypto the same thing?
[14:28] <narnarnar> Hello! Can you guys think of a command line tool that creates an encrypted directory or blockdevice based on ftp or ssh? Similar to cryptsetup which creates an encrypted blockdevice at /dev/mapper/soandso based on an existing blockdevice. Doing that on top of ftp or ssh so that the encryption happens on the client would let you store sensitive data on hosts you dont trust.
[14:29] <cannonball> Have there been any reports of upgrades failing from 8.10 -> 9.04?  I had one fail on my desktop last wee, so ended up doing a full re-install.  Haven't tried yet on my laptop
[14:29] <grawity> narnarnar: You mean something like sshfs?
[14:29] <Radtoo> narnarnar: You can a) use the same cryptsetup on a loopback mounted file (file pretends it is a device then)
[14:29] <Eddy_> hello, i have a PC and I have installed openssh-server on it, now if i try to access to it with a client ssh and with another PC connected to local not work, but if i add an rules in the router and try with public IP it work, but i need that the server ssh work only in local..
[14:30] <andrew2390> hey guys, i need a little help with irc server connections
[14:30] <Radtoo> narnarnar: Or b) you could use truecrypt or similar. c) there's archive formats taht support encryption, most of the ones in use actaully
[14:30] <Eddy_> what i do?
[14:31] <armegadon> ohai, something in the updates related to alsa and bluetooth yesterday broke my audio, as in the normal volume i now i have to use in apps and the system volume is much much higher, and everytime i change apps i have to keep adjusting the volume back and forth
[14:31] <sacarlson> ﻿Eddy_: you setup a firewall?
[14:31] <narnarnar> grawity: sshfs doesnt store the data encrypted on the host, right?
[14:31] <pirolocito> Eddy_, with openssh-server you should connect local
[14:31] <pirolocito> unless a firewall is blocking
[14:31] <Radtoo> narnarnar: The question would always be, can you actually cache the remote file / directory locally or not... access to some remote encrypted file storage as such is a bit of an odd thing.
[14:32] <grawity> narnarnar: nope, unless the destination host also uses encfs/truecrypt/whatever.
[14:32] <Eddy_> sacarlson, i haven't idea how to setup iptables..
[14:32] <node808> Ping google.com gives you an IP address...how can I do the opposite...I need to know the hostname associated with an IP address
[14:32] <utakbiya> hello all, just wanna ask how can u kill an application who is not responding thanks
[14:32] <sacarlson> ﻿Eddy_: you can use firestarter
[14:32] <Vlet> Eddy_: it sounds like something may be wrong with the client machine
[14:32] <Eddy_> pirolocito, i need that the server ssh work only in local, but it not work in local, i see the message: "connection refused" ..
[14:32] <grawity> node808: Use 'host', it works both ways.
[14:32] <narnarnar> Radtoo: loopback mounted file. hmm.. you mean first mount via ftp or ssh and then "loopback mount" one of the files in there as a device? how do you loopbackmount?
[14:33] <grawity> node808: But on many cases, you won't get all the domains.
[14:33] <node808> grawity: awesome...thanks a lot
[14:33] <Vlet> Eddy_: and are you trying to connect to it using a 192 address, or your external address?
[14:33] <Radtoo> narnarnar: "mount -o loop" or "losetup /dev/loopX file" if I recall correctly
[14:33] <pirolocito> Eddy_, have you checked what por are you connecting?
[14:33] <Eddy_> Vlet, a 192 address
[14:33] <sacarlson> ﻿Eddy_: I just setup my adsl router as my firewall and have my ssh set to port 2222 for outside access
[14:33] <usr13> narnarnar: Something like encfs?  http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/21/howto-encfs-encrypted-file-system-in-ubuntu-and-fedora-gnu-linux/
[14:34] <Vlet> Eddy_: does it immediatly tell you connection refused, or does it take a little bit?
[14:34] <Eddy_> Vlet, immediatly
[14:34] <nmvictor> utakbiya: right click an empty space in the panel,select Add to panel ,the add Force Quite.It will show t the panel.Use that by clicking it.
[14:34] <Radtoo> narnarnar: but as I said, I wouldn't think it is a good idea (as its a problem in many ways) to have a remote encrpted file / directory / whatever shared over network and used (read write, anyways) locally.
[14:35] <narnarnar> Radtoo, usr13: I see that mount also has an encryption option. interesting. maybe that alone is enough?
[14:35] <utakbiya> ok thanks very much...how about in the terminal is there a command in there?
[14:35] <narnarnar> Radtoo: why do you think its a bad idea?
[14:35] <Radtoo> narnarnar: Its much cleaner if you either download/upload the file and technically only do encrptiion locally or have a remote file storage is unlocked prior to being shared over network.
[14:36] <usr13> narnarnar: I have experience with backing up filesystems to another PC across the LAN and compressing it on that other PC. Maybe you could customize the command I used to encrypt it instead of compressing it ?
[14:36] <cracken2261> hm
[14:36] <narnarnar> Radtoo: to me, having a directory to work on like every other directory seems a lot more elegant.
[14:37] <usr13> narnarnar: If you first just want to copy a filesystem acorss a LAN, I can show you a command for that.
[14:37] <narnarnar> usr13: i think i would like to use my already written incremental backuptools. just over the net to other hosts.
[14:37] <Radtoo> narnarnar: hard to explain. because random access on a block device over network (streaming bytes or somesuch) to decrypt it locally and to decrypt/ interpret it as a filesystem there is highly cumbersome
[14:38] <Radtoo> narnarnar: it may result in abysmal performance and even integrity problems due to the long roundtrips and unreliabilty on the network in between... well, hard to explain it all :)
[14:38] <Kartagis> Package svn is not available, but is referred to by another package. <--- how do I know what package it has been referred to from?
[14:39] <genii-konv> !info subversion
[14:39] <NativeAngels> hello can anyone tell me how to ssh a sunxvm box ? with ubuntu installed on it
[14:39] <Radtoo> narnarnar: right. so you want the remote side to mount an encrypted archive but sharing the files over network would already be the decrypted ones, for instance
[14:39] <Radtoo> narnarnar: Or, you transmit the encyrpted files from remote to yourself and decrypt them there. These are good solutions IMO.
[14:40] <narnarnar> Radtoo: i want the client to do the encryption. based on all the infos i got by now, it seems to be real easy.
[14:40] <Kartagis> genii-konv, how do I do that in console without querying ubottu ?
[14:40] <sacarlson> ﻿NativeAngels:  >sh sunxvm
[14:40] <usr13> narnarnar: Ok, but I just use nfs share and do it like this: dd if=/dev/hda1 | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'
[14:40] <Vlet> Eddy_: Check your server's /etc/deny.hosts for the client's IP
[14:40] <Radtoo> narnarnar: And to get "encrypted files" that you can decrypt, you can really just use truecrypt or loopback mounted encrytped files. right, real easy :)
[14:40] <genii-konv> Kartagis: something like:   apt-cache search subversion
[14:41] <sacarlson> opps did it again >ssh sunxvm_ip_address
[14:41] <genii-konv> Kartagis: You can also use "policy" instead of "search"  to find out version, if installed, etc
[14:41] <NativeAngels> would it still be port 22
[14:41] <Kartagis> thanks genii-konv
[14:41] <rumpel2> NativeAngels, unless you change it
[14:41] <sacarlson> ﻿NativeAngels: ya unless you want to change it
[14:41] <kiki_cwo> alow
[14:42] <NativeAngels> ok
[14:42] <rumpel2> ^^
[14:42] <rumpel2> ssh on 22 sucks :P
[14:42] <sacarlson> rumpel2: ya I keep getting atempted breakin with port 22
[14:45] <usr13> narnarnar: Actually, that command places it in my nfs share, but did not make use of nfs at all.  But to retrieve it, you simply do: scp username@192.168.1.6:/pub/image.gz .
[14:46] <usr13> narnarnar: I had another method using nfs share, but was a little more complicated in one way so I settled on just scp for normal use.
[14:46] <Vlet>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS
[14:46] <Vlet> oops
[14:49] <Magician_> who needs help
[14:49] <cybersplice> Me, but psychological.
[14:49] <Magician_> that is funny
[14:49] <sliwek> hi all
[14:49] <sliwek> I need help with 9.04
[14:49] <Magician_> ok what is your problem
[14:49] <digdeep> How to stop pidgin from autostart (kubuntu :-D)
[14:49] <Radtoo> digdeep: well, log out without having it open
[14:49] <hittt> sliwek?
[14:50] <Radtoo> digdeep: (not shutdown. logout.) that usually does the job
[14:50] <hittt> whats the problem
[14:50] <usr13> digdeep: Using Gnome?
[14:50] <digdeep> kde :-D
[14:51] <sliwek> problem is with displaying donts and graphics in INTEL 82830 CGC (laptop)
[14:51] <sliwek> fonts
[14:51] <Vlet> !ask | sliwek
[14:51] <BlueMe> hello, I can't heard most of the system sounds, some works, some doesnt :(
[14:52] <Vlet> BlueMe: are there by chance restricted drivers available for your sound card?
[14:52] <usr13> digdeep: There is a KDE tool for Session management somewhere in the Control Panel I think.  Just drill around and look for it.
[14:52] <jacquesmerde> quick install question? i'm trying to dual-boot, but was asked by the instaler if i want to install "side by side" OR in the "largest continuous free space". i thought i wont BOTH. which do i select?
[14:52] <Magician_> side by side
[14:53] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: what is the other option then?
[14:53] <narnarnar> usr13, Radtoo: this looks like a promising approach: http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/blog/?p=8
[14:53] <Magician_> it makes your other operating system take the minimal space, side by side gives you equal space or you can maunally partion
[14:53] <BlueMe> Vlet: there are no drivers for my card but maybe it can be a kind of conflict with the bus audio in my ATI HD 2600 pro pci-e wich act like a souncard. my asoundconf list return 2 audio card. so I set the "SB" as default but didn't help. I can Heard music etc but system sounds not :(
[14:54] <digdeep> Does it mean if I logout the OS, pidgin will not be autostarted
[14:54] <usr13> digdeep: You might also find something in  ~/.kde/Autostart/  that you can just delete.
[14:54] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: oh. when i installed windows i created a partition that's a 1/3 of the harddrive, leaving the last 2/3 as free space for ubuntu
[14:54] <digdeep> usr13: nothing there
[14:55] <cck> hi all
[14:55] <linduxed> ok so i tried to set up the eth0 so that it gets a static IP of 192.268.0.210 and the usual netmask by using the following instructions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/158011/ (im trying to first-time-setup a router) and the problem is that the comp doesnt seem to get a connection with the router. ifconfig gives me the right readings, but nm-applet has a no connection symbol (and i cant get to the router page)
[14:55] <Magician_> jacquesmerde: I would leave it like that
[14:55] <Radtoo> narnarnar: yep that's one possible solution but the author there warns of the inefficiency and performance problems just as I did ;)
[14:55] <usr13> narnarnar: Reading.
[14:55] <cck> how can I launch xorg options editor gtk?
[14:55] <narnarnar> Radtoo: performance doesnt matter for me
[14:55] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: i got the sense that i don't want side by side as it will try and shrink/enlarge my windows partition so i want largest free space, but i got the sense that that option didnt install a bootloader
[14:55] <cck> how can I launch xorg options editor gtk?
[14:55] <Vlet> BlueMe: Check your 'sounds' control panel. In there, you may select qhich device to use for which types of sounds (in other words, you could have system sounds played through one sound card, music through another.... very useful if you're using ubuntu to `perform` in one way or another)
[14:55] <Radtoo> narnarnar: (And it may get entirely unworkable if you have an unreliable connection). But I guess it can be done.
[14:55] <linduxed> when i press the nm-applet and select Auto-eth0 it just spins a while and then says that im disconnected (didnt find anything)
[14:56] <sacarlson> ﻿linduxed: you might be able to use the network-manager but I use a script
[14:56] <Radtoo> narnarnar: Well, try it. At least it's not going to "secretly" break in a way you can't see (and only fail when you actaully need your data back).
[14:56] <sacarlson> ﻿linduxed: you need to setup route add default gw your_gateway_address
[14:56] <narnarnar> Radtoo: are you sure it gets unworkable? i would doubt that. i think sending data over unreliable connections has been solved meanwhile.
[14:56] <giaco> what's cc1plus?
[14:56] <Magician_> jacquesmerde: It will install the boot loader. and all your booting will depend on the kernel. you will be given a choice of which system you want to load
[14:56] <cck> how can I launch xorg options editor gtk?
[14:56] <cck> please help someone
[14:56] <narnarnar> Radtoo: if it doesnt fail secretly, its perfect.
[14:57] <zetheroo> a friend oh fine is trying to log onto a network overseas (wireless) and this is the key ( 81cc26fe48a35b7666c2004fc8) ... is that a WEP passphrase or WPA?
[14:57] <linduxed> sacarlson: the manual for the router only mentions that i should setup the IP and netmask
[14:57] <vlt> Hello. I'm looking for a tool to convert DBF files to SQL or at least CSV. I just found dbf2mysql which needs a real MySQL server to send the data to (instead of just creating a dump file). Any better idea?
[14:57] <BlueMe> Vlet: everything configured, in fact i can heard certain system sound but no some of them...it seems that there is a conflict or something like that. Now I deselect a sound (for the trash) wich was working and now selecting again the same sound it doesn't work anymore
[14:57] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: so given that they'll both let me install grub, and they'll both put ubuntu in the free space i've preset, what would be the difference between the two options?
[14:58] <Radtoo> narnarnar: It does. You cannot resume with this simple approach. And the technology stack makes using the workarounds and drop-in fixes harder than you might think at first. but it's easy enough to just try, I guess.
[14:58] <Magician_> in your case there isn't much different other than the space you use
[14:58] <BlueMe> how can I uninstall or deactivate the sond bus wich came with my ATI driver? I think it's the point. My system think it have to work with 2 soundcard.
[14:58] <Vlet> BlueMe: hmm, you may need to wade through your dmesg to try to see if the system is complaining about anything at boot
[14:58] <zetheroo> anyone?
[14:58] <Magician_> jacquesmerde: it seems you got it set up to install correctly to me
[14:58] <zetheroo> ﻿a friend of fine is trying to log onto a network overseas (wireless) and this is the key ( 81cc26fe48a35b7666c2004fc8) ... is that a WEP passphrase or WPA?
[14:59] <BlueMe> Vlet: I don't know how to
[14:59] <Vlet> zetheroo: looks WPA
[14:59] <cck> how can I launch xorg options editor gtk?
[14:59] <cck> please help someone
[15:00] <Pici> 22
[15:00] <Vlet> BlueMe: kind of out of my field of expertise... you may want to spend some time with google and "ubuntu hardware conflicts" or somthing :-/
[15:00] <BlueMe> Vlet: ok thank you :)
[15:00] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: so  if the difference is the space i use, and the space i want to use is the "largest continuous free space", why do i want the "side by side" option?
[15:00] <digdeep> Does not work after logout the OS, pidgin still autostart! :-D
[15:00] <Radtoo> BlueMe: prevent the alsa module from loading I guess... although just telling your applications to use the second card might also work
[15:01] <admin_masu3701> i dont have sound on my system..stoped worked...can somone help me?
[15:01] <usr13> narnarnar: Looks loke good info.  And I must add about my earlier comments, that my backup process is for use with LIVE CD and not on running system.  I should have mentioned that, and all that I said about nfs from the start was irrelevant
[15:01] <Radtoo> digdeep: was there a save session checkbox you could have checked?
[15:01] <Bhavesh2177> join #sendmail
[15:02] <hemimaniac> Hello, ive tried evrything i could find in the forums, ( a wee n00bish at ubuntu ) and i still do not have all the system sounds coming from my ext speakers, things like msg notification or program error notifications come from the case speaker, using ubuntu 8.10 on dell dimension 520 with integrated soundcard ( sigmatel ) i really like the idea of ubuntu i just need to get this sorted so it dont aggregate me anymore
[15:02] <narnarnar> usr13: alright
[15:02] <digdeep> Radtoo: trying
[15:02] <Magician_> jacquesmerde: most people that do dual boot are using both os about the same amount of time for various things so equal space is the more prominent choice, but if you are going to make ubuntu your primary os then you need to use the largest spacee
[15:03] <usr13> narnarnar: As it states in that article, dd is for use on a filesystem that is not in use because a running filesystem is dynamic.
[15:03] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: so i DO want largest free space then? will side by side create a 50/50 split and not let me decide on another ratio?
[15:04] <usr13> narnarnar: But looks like pretty good information for your intentions.
[15:04] <Magician_> yes you DO want the largest space in your case. And the side by side will do a 50/50 with no other options
[15:04] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: sorry to ask so many questions. i've set up dual boot dozens of times, usually by using cfdisk for creating partitions and setting mountpoints, but i have NO idea what those two options in the ubuntu menu are supposed to mean
[15:05] <Andy80> if I've an Asus EeePC 901 (Intel Atom N270) do I have to use normal Ubuntu packages or lpia optimized one?
[15:05] <Magician_> jacquesmerde: it is fine. ask all you want   that is what we are here for
[15:05] <Austin___> has anyone else figured out why 9.04 is saying that Remote Desktop is only accessible over the local network when 8.10 didn't have that restriction?
[15:05] <Austin___> and how to fix it?
[15:06] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: so side-by-side is generally geared for people who have no free space, just one os that uses one partition that covers the whole drive? i take it then that resizing ntfs partitions with linux tools is a LOT safer than it used to be!
[15:06] <cck> how can I launch xorg options editor gtk?
[15:06] <Magician_> austin:  have you enabled to allow others to view your desktop
[15:06] <Radtoo> narnarnar,usr13: if its the same article I'm looking at (linked by narnarnar earlier) it uses dd to create an file that is encrypted using luks and then loopback mounted. the actual backup is done filewise?
[15:06] <Pici> cck: Can you rephrase your question?
[15:06] <cck> Magician_?
[15:06] <cck> yes
[15:06] <Pici> !who | cck
[15:06] <cck> there is programm : Xorg Options Settings
[15:06] <cck> and its gtk
[15:07] <Magician_> jacquesmerde:  yes it is alot afer now
[15:07] <cck> where can I laumch it from?
[15:07] <Radtoo> narnarnar,usr13: meaning, dd is only used to allocate space for the file which then contains the encrypted filesystem.
[15:07] <cck> I have as well installed the nvidia drivers
[15:07] <cck> from :Administration/Hardware Drivers
[15:07] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: back in my day you had to use partition magic for windows or take teh serious risk of borking the entire ntfs partition
[15:08] <cck> and it gets up to 640x480@60hz.
[15:08] <Austin___> Magician_: yes. view & control; no confirmation, set password, only display when there's someone.
[15:08] <Magician_> all that has changed  now.   which is good i think
[15:08] <hemimaniac> Hello, ive tried evrything i could find in the forums, ( a wee n00bish at ubuntu ) and i still do not have all the system sounds coming from my ext speakers, things like msg notification or program error notifications come from the case speaker, using ubuntu 8.10 on dell dimension 520 with integrated soundcard ( sigmatel ) i really like the idea of ubuntu i just need to get this sorted so it dont aggregate me anymore
[15:08] <cck> before the nvidia drivers I had up to 800x600@60hz
[15:08] <cck> I now want 800x600 to start with
[15:08] <cck> on the nvidia driver
[15:08] <Pici> !enter | cck
[15:09] <cck> sorry
[15:09] <datacrusher> im having much trouble with noises on alsa with ubuntu. iv heard about oss, its is recommended to use it instead of alsa on ubuntu?
[15:09] <Magician_> jacquesmerde:  I will be right back
[15:09] <KingJamesII> Can someone help me with a print problem? I have a printer connected to a windows box that I can't print to. Is there something else I need to install?
[15:09] <jacquesmerde> Magician_: i still out of habit always use fat rather than ntfs partitions in windows installs, coz of fears of later resizing
[15:09] <Pici> cck: I'm not familiar with a tool called "Xorg Options Editor".  Do you mean the item listed under System>Preferences>Screen (or display) ?
[15:09] <cck> I want to create a 800x600 resolution on ubuntu with the nvidiadriver .its now up to 640x480@60hz
[15:09] <Radtoo> datacrusher: oss is older than alsa. but if you don't mind that only a single application would be able to use it at a time it might just work for you
[15:10] <Mion> datacrusher: keep your pcm no higher than [0dmb..-3dbm] and most of the noice should go away
[15:10] <glitsj16> hemimaniac: if you have pulseaudio's pavucontrol, you can use that to migrate your audio streams to your prefered output device
[15:10] <Mion> Radtoo: stop spreading FUD
[15:10] <cck> Pici:its an addon to ubuntu. I downloaded and installed it using the synaptic package manager to create my own res with it with gtk at xorg.conf
[15:10] <digdeep> Radtoo: Stop pidgin autostarting, one way (not a very good way) is to start a new session each time. (so far I can find)
[15:10] <Radtoo> Mion: FUD what?
[15:10] <Mion> Radtoo: oss 4 is _nothing at all like oss 2/3
[15:11] <sunshine285> hi
[15:11] <KingJamesII> Can someone help me with a print problem? I have a printer connected to a windows box that I can't print to. Is there something else I need to install?
[15:11] <jacquesmerde> also, when i try and install the new ubuntu, i run a disc check first, which comes out clean, but then halfway through install keeps complaing it can't read a part of the disc, that it's dirty or something... is this just constant very bad luck?
[15:11] <narnarnar> Radtoo: yes, i think the backup is used filewise. i didnt read the backup part, because i have my own filewise backupsystem.
[15:11] <Mion> Radtoo: you can play sound from as many apps you want at once
[15:11] <cck> but can't figure where its options have been
[15:11] <hemimaniac> glitsj16, is that thru synaptic or a compile project, and ty for the reply
[15:11] <asdacool> help http://roxxxanika.07x.net/?id=865
[15:11] <Mion> Radtoo: and oss have more up to date drivers for many cards than alsa
[15:11] <cck> the installed programm doesn't exist on the programms meny
[15:11] <cck> menu
[15:11] <sunshine285> I'm new to Ubuntu 9.04 and have no sound on my system. Can anyone help?
[15:12] <Mion> Radtoo: it also have support for fancy stuff like per-application mixing, without the need for pulse
[15:12] <Mion> s/for/of/
[15:12] <Guest4250> http://www.Marie-gets-Deflowered.com/?id=d31c9d59
[15:12] <t3pleni9> what is the shell command to mount window drives?
[15:12] <behappy> how do I know my HDD type (scsi or sata) in shell?
[15:12] <jacquesmerde> sunshine285: what soundcard / sound driver are you using?
[15:12] <admin_masu3701> sunshine285: i havin sound problems for about 2 day
[15:12] <Mion> behappy: dmesg/dmidecode/lspci
[15:13] <KingJamesII> Can someone help me with a print problem? I have a printer connected to a windows box that I can't print to. Is there something else I need to install?
[15:13] <glitsj16> hemimaniac: synaptic has that, ot vie "sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[15:13] <blue-frog> sunshine285: check the sound applet (icon at the top right of your screen, right click preferences and see if some devices are muted
[15:13] <datacrusher> thansk r
[15:13] <RHSanborn> Does ubuntu use bashrc or bash_profile?
[15:13] <sunshine285> ok thanks
[15:13] <Mion> KingJamesII: cups and samba
[15:13] <Mion> KingJamesII: and some drivers for it
[15:13] <mweichert> hello, I'd like to use the Ubuntu 9.04 kernel on Hardy...
[15:13] <hemimaniac> ty glitsj16
[15:13] <blue-frog> RHSanborn: yes
[15:13] <datacrusher> ops, thanks Radtoo . Mion, actually, i got problems with some games. the video goes jues fine, but the audio its glitchy
[15:13] <mweichert> I assume all I have to do is download the kernel package from the repository?
[15:14] <datacrusher> im using ubuntu 8.04 lts 64
[15:14] <datacrusher> on a notebook
[15:14] <RHSanborn> blue-frog, do you know which one?
[15:14] <hbekel> RHSanborn: man bash, section "invocation"
[15:14] <blue-frog> RHSanborn: both I guess. .bashrc for sure
[15:14] <Mion> datacrusher: open alsamixer and check that pcm is at 0dmb or lower
[15:14] <RHSanborn> hbekel, ty
[15:14] <RHSanborn> blue-frog, ty
[15:14] <KingJamesII> Mion: I've got the drivers installed for the printer I'm using
[15:14] <cck> how can I create a custom screen resolution on ubuntu?
[15:15] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one ...i have al little problem here pls
[15:15] <glitsj16> hemimaniac: you're welcome, it will show an entree on the playback tab when you output something, right-clicking a handle will show you a small menu item to move the stream
[15:15] <Pici> !fixres | cck
[15:15] <cobra-the-joker> the system beep here is very annoying ...is there isnt any way to disable it ?
[15:15] <sunshine285> ok i unmuted the devices and tried playing an mp3 but still no luck :(
[15:15] <Mion> KingJamesII: fire up samba and cups, and try to add the printer in the cups web interface
[15:15] <Mion> cobra-the-joker: rmmod pcspkr
[15:16] <ienorand> cobra-the-joker you looked through sound settings?
[15:16] <usr13> cobra-the-joker: Are you talking about the system beeps as the PC boots up?
[15:16] <hemimaniac> glitsj16, what about sound from programs and such?
[15:16] <cobra-the-joker> yeeees usr13
[15:16] <cobra-the-joker> thats it
[15:16] <blue-frog> sunshine285: start with a normal sound. system/pref/sound  and test
[15:17] <sunshine285> getting to it now
[15:17] <usr13> cobra-the-joker: Only way I know is to disconnect the speaker from the MB.
[15:17] <sunshine285> thanks blue frog
[15:17] <cobra-the-joker> lol
[15:17] <Radtoo> Mion: All right, OSS4 was improved then and can do mixing, but the FUD part is unjustified. And I dare doubt it's a silver bullet solution like you make it sound. :)
[15:17] <cobra-the-joker> is there isnt any way ....as this is a laptop
[15:17] <cobra-the-joker> D
[15:17] <cobra-the-joker> :D*
[15:17] <blue-frog> cobra-the-joker: in the bios , no?
[15:17] <KingJamesII> Mion: I'm installing samba now
[15:18] <admin_masu3701> i dont have sound on my system..stoped worked...can somone help me?
[15:18] <sunshine285> ok blue frog, tried the sound tests nothing
[15:18] <cobra-the-joker> blue-frog ....yes from the cpu
[15:18] <glitsj16> hemimaniac: pavucontrol it works the same way regardless of the source, there's a nice howto page in the forums on pulseaudio that explains it all http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900
[15:18] <usr13> cobra-the-joker: Oh a laptop.  Well, there may be errors on boot up. I would just look in the bios and see if you see anything there that needs to be turned off.  (It will be hard unless you know what the errors are about.)
[15:19] <kian> Hi, I installed ubuntu 9.04 but I could not run 3D desktop!!!
[15:19] <tonytraductor> I'm contemplating a return to ubuntu after using PCLOS for a little over a year
[15:19] <Mion> Radtoo: I never said it was a silver bullet solution, I just refuted your ignorant and wrong claims about it
[15:19] <tonytraductor> Ubuntu no longer has fluxbox or openbox available in the repos?
[15:20] <hemimaniac> lol glitsj16, i spent 2 days looking for info, and this page never came across my browser, i'll giver a go, thnx much
[15:20] <tonytraductor> this is key.  I won't use gnome, xfce, or kde
[15:20] <Mion> Radtoo: I never even told him to switch to oss
[15:20] <Mion> :)
[15:20] <usr13> kian: Do you have graphic accelerated capable video drivers installed?
[15:20] <jacquesmerde> tonytraductor: no *box's??? HERESY!!!
[15:20] <tonytraductor> I am using the livecd on mymain box at the moment, and not seeing fluxbox via synaptic as an option
[15:20] <tonytraductor> nor openbox
[15:20] <tonytraductor> that's what I'm saying
[15:21] <scottzhang_> hi
[15:21] <scottzhang_> anyone here
[15:21] <tonytraductor> I don't want eyecandy...I use the  machine to work, not entertain children, so I want a light, swift, easily configurable wm, ie. fluxbox
[15:21] <jacquesmerde> tonytraductor: just use twm then!!!
[15:21] <Austin___> hrm.
[15:21] <usr13> scottzhang_: Only about a thousand of us....
[15:21] <tonytraductor> twm....yeah...I've tried that before, but it's a bit of a pita, and not nearly as easily configurable as fluxbox
[15:22] <tonytraductor> for one thing, I use a lot of custom keybinding, and adding those to flux is like falling of a log, so easy
[15:22] <kian> user13 In ubuntu 8.10 I just ticked virtual effect extra but It does not work as well in ubuntu 9.04
[15:22] <jacquesmerde> tonytraductor: i've always been one for the tiling window managers myself. xmonad, dwm, etc...
[15:22] <glitsj16> cobra-the-joker: if you want to keep the system beep from reappearing on reboot, add "blacklist pcspkr" at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[15:23] <cobra-the-joker> glist ...you sure ?
[15:23] <creative83> re
[15:23] <Radtoo> Mion: Ahuh, but I'm not taking an opposite stance? I actually suggested to use OSS if it works for him.
[15:23] <tonytraductor> wait...maybe I just have to enable universe repo
[15:23] <glitsj16> cobra-the-joker: yep, ask around for confirmation
[15:23] <scottzhang_> what is it?
[15:23] <jcfp> tonytraductor: both fluxbox and openbox are still available in jaunty, both in universe
[15:24] <creative83> I tried a apt-get dist-upgrade today. It didn't work and now I get an error (python) when installing gnome-app-install.
[15:24] <cobra-the-joker> glist ... blacklist.conf???
[15:25] <creative83> Is there a known fix for this problem?
[15:25] <creative83> !apt
[15:25] <BugeyeD> hi all. what "media installation url" can be used to install jaunty via virt-manager wizard?
[15:25] <kian> usr13 In ubuntu 8.10 I just ticked virtual effect extra but It does not work as well in ubuntu 9.04
[15:25] <creative83> !marshal
[15:25] <co_aneh> .dal.net
[15:25] <tonytraductor> ok...jaunty is 9.04?  that's the livecd I'm playing with
[15:26] <jcfp> !info fluxbox
[15:26] <MRSunshine___> hmm, why the hell isnt my keyboard layout saved on reboot? :/
[15:26] <glitsj16> cobra-the-joker: no, either add one line to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist or put it in a separate file under the /etc/modprobe.d folder, works either way (the last routine makes it easier to see in a glance what you have blacklisted (personal preferences and all that ...)
[15:26] <clearscreen> For anyone that uses Exaile: is it possible to just use rhythmbox type of behavior? That is: clicking on files plays them instead of queueing, and where is the shuffle option ?!
[15:26] <clearscreen> And by shuffle I dont mean shuffle the tracks in my playlist
[15:26] <clearscreen> Nevermind :)
[15:27] <creative83> Any clues of how I can get rid of this apt error: http://pastie.org/468730 ??
[15:28] <cobra-the-joker> glist ..... thanx...blacklist working
[15:28] <tonytraductor> huh...even with multi and universe enables, still don't see flux or openbox
[15:28] <hub_> hello
[15:28] <glitsj16> cobra-the-joker: np,, one less irritation :)
[15:29] <cobra-the-joker> i have another question regarding the 3D support in ubuntu
[15:29] <tonytraductor> is this because the livecd apt is only looking on the livecd, perhaps? even with repos enabled?
[15:29] <hub_> i'm using ubuntu 9.04 + ati x1250 and i have a vsync problem (some tearing), and i want to know how to i enable vsync ?
[15:30] <Radtoo> MRSunshine___: I guess it isn't being saved and you might just want to set the default layout?
[15:30] <shashwatpns> can anyone help me install Windows  on a partition of my hard drive??????????????????????????
[15:30] <glitsj16> cobra-the-joker: far from an expert on that, but i'm sure there are people here that can help if they know what you're after
[15:30] <clearscreen> shashwatpns: this is a channel for ubuntu support
[15:30] <MRSunshine___> Radtoo, i have swedish only in the list, when i reboot i get US layout and have to add swedish agan and remove the old swedish for it to be swedish
[15:30] <cobra-the-joker> when i play chess ...and turn on the 3d view thing ....there is some message appears and tell me that i dont have some packages installed on my system
[15:31] <shashwatpns> i know but there is a prob with ubuntu  its not allowing windows get installed clearscreen
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> cobra-the-joker:  ive NEVER seen that 3d part of the chess program work.. tried it over the last 3-4 releases.. and never ever figured it ouyt.
[15:31] <glitsj16> cobra-the-joker: yes i remember having to add something to get 3D chess
[15:31] <tonytraductor> weird...can't find fluxbox in synaptic, but sudo apt-get install fluxbox responds appropriately
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> glitsj16:  ;) you must have more patience then i did. Heh.
[15:32] <glitsj16> Dr_Willis: it does work, now if only my memory wasn't gone lol
[15:32] <trancefat> Hello all, I hv installed the STA wireless driver but I cannot see any wireless network :(
[15:32] <clearscreen> shashwatpns: ubuntu does not wilfully block windows from being installed
[15:32] <creative83> !apt
[15:32] <cobra-the-joker> No Python OpenGL support
[15:32] <cobra-the-joker> No Python GTKGLExt support
[15:32] <hub_> anyone know about my vsync problem ?
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> There are like 1000 python related pacages in the repos.. perhaps one of them. :) but what one.
[15:33] <scottzhang_> hi, i have the problem about Bluetooth.
[15:33] <shashwatpns> clearscreen : windows installation is saying not supported hardisk format
[15:33] <cobra-the-joker> is there is a standard libs for 3D thing
[15:33] <glitsj16> Dr_Willis: cobra-the-joker: i'll dive into my memory banks ... if you don't hear from me in the next 15 minutes, please call 911 :p
[15:33] <scottzhang_>  my BT Headset can't work with my laptop, BT: BT355
[15:33] <cobra-the-joker> lol
[15:33] <TJ__> i need some help, what is the best/most extensive way to test a HDD in ubuntu? I have been running jaunty and twice now my file system has become corrupted, but XP runs fine.
[15:34] <cobra-the-joker> just be carefull there
[15:34] <Radtoo> MRSunshine___: Hard to say. Perhaps it's an actual bug with gnome-keyboard-properties, or a write protected configuration file or something.
[15:34] <clearscreen> shashwatpns: windows is not compatible with the ext3 (or any other partition format other than FAT/NTFS), do you want to have a dual boot system?
[15:34] <creative83> Could everyone install todays update of gnome-app-install? I'm getting this error: http://pastie.org/468730
[15:35] <exco> how can I extract multiple partition iso's ? (archive mounter only shows 2 txt files inside a dvd iso)
[15:35] <TJ__> clearscreen, but one could use something like EXT2-fs to mount them in windows.
[15:35] <shashwatpns> clearscreen: yes
[15:35] <clearscreen> TJ__: sure, but you can't install windows on em :p
[15:36] <TJ__> clearscreen, true true
[15:36] <clearscreen> shashwatpns: if you want to keep your current ubuntu installation, you should use a live CD to resize your existing ext3 partition, install windows in the free space, and then use the live cd again to install grub to your MBR (windows will overwrite it)
[15:36] <clearscreen> shashwatpns: if you want to save yourself a lot of trouble, install windows first, then install ubuntu and have it do all that for you
[15:36] <dayo> i heard `sudo bash` is not a good way of getting a root shell. what is?
[15:36] <clearscreen> dayo: sudo -i
[15:36] <shashwatpns> k
[15:37] <glitsj16> cobra-the-joker: Dr_Willis: i believe it's the python-gtkglext1 package you'll need for 3D support in glchess
[15:38] <tonytraductor> ah....no sakura (terminal emulator)
[15:38] <creative83> clearscreen: What about sudo su?
[15:38] <dayo> clearscreen: thanks!
[15:38] <clearscreen> creative83: I've heard that you should use sudo -i anyway, I'm not sure what it's benefits are over 'sudo su'
[15:38] <grawity> dayo: 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s' are preferred.
[15:38] <Xcube> hello
[15:38] <clearscreen> I just take it for granted :)
[15:38] <tonytraductor> okay, now here's a question...I currently have a PCLOS install, with / on 20gb, and /home on the remainder of my 300gb drive
[15:38] <cobra-the-joker> mmm ... i will search for it
[15:38] <grawity> clearscreen, creative83: What if "su" doesn't work?
[15:39] <Xcube> i'm a new ubuntu user, and i've a question :/
[15:39] <tonytraductor> if I install ubuntu over the PCLOS, I'm going to have to rewrite my /home and restore from backups, aren't I?
[15:39] <Steeley> Xcube: ask away
[15:39] <tonytraductor> I mean, it won't just install / to the current PCLOS /, and use the current /home
[15:39] <mercenary> vxcv
[15:39] <tonytraductor> without overwriting /home
[15:39] <clearscreen> grawity: I guess... but that maybe happens in 0.0000000000000001% of all ubuntu installs? :P
[15:39] <jtaji> tonytraductor: it can do that, it's only required to overwrite /
[15:39] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: If /home was on a seperate partition its not a problem
[15:40] <jtaji> tonytraductor: right if it's a separate partition
[15:40] <tonytraductor> cool
[15:40] <majnoon> tonytraductor, try a DVD-R ??
[15:40] <mercenary> chinese
[15:40] <mercenary> where is chinese
[15:40] <jtaji> !cn | mercenary
[15:40] <tonytraductor> but it will overwrite relevant config files in /home when necessary, right?
[15:40] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: no configuration files in /home/ are really relevant though. :)
[15:40] <grawity> clearscreen: s/ubuntu/Linux/ - that applies to all distros. And believe, typos in /etc/pam.d/ _can_ do that.
[15:40] <tonytraductor> DVD-R? why?
[15:40] <jtaji> tonytraductor: it will use them when you log in as your users only
[15:41] <tonytraductor> I have the whole /home backed up to a 320gb usb storage drive
[15:41] <tonytraductor> okay
[15:41] <tonytraductor> I think I
[15:41] <tonytraductor>  m going to ditch PCLOS and come back to Ubuntu, now
[15:41] <clearscreen> grawity: I'm aware that it applies to all GNU/Linux distributions
[15:42] <Xcube> I've 2PC: 1st runs on ubuntu connected to internet via eth0 and 2nd runs on winXP
[15:42] <Xcube> i wanna share my connexion with PC winXP
[15:42] <majnoon> tonytraductor, just backup what you wnt to keep then do complete do over
[15:43] <genii-around> !ics | Xcube
[15:43] <Xcube> the ubuntu PC has 2 network cartds, eth0 for modem and eth1 for pc winXP
[15:43] <[vali]> tonytraductor, thats one of the reasons of using a /home partition. If you use that, you can install wathever distro you want without worrying about losing your data/config
[15:43] <tonytraductor> co0l
[15:43] <ikonia> !isc > Xcube
[15:43] <tonytraductor> starting install now
[15:43] <ikonia> !ics > Xcube
[15:43] <[vali]> (sometimes you need to delete some . files, but not a big hassle)
[15:43] <Xcube> ikonia: Thank you =)
[15:43] <tonytraductor> PCLOS got all hosed, lost usb mounting, lost CUPS, all kinds of crap, from using community remasters that weren't compatible with regular updates
[15:44] <tonytraductor> never had such probs ith ubuntu in the past when I used it
[15:44] <Xcube> thank you genii-around  =)
[15:44] <genii-around> Xcube: Anytime
[15:44] <[vali]> some distros are not joe-average friendly
[15:44] <tonytraductor> okay, I need to select partitions manually, right?
[15:45] <[vali]> yes, dont forget to format the "/" partition but NOT the "/home" partition
[15:45] <yaaar> word
[15:45] <tyler_d1> anyone wish to help me auto-mount a raid 5 on a 680i sli using 8.04?
[15:45] <cck> anyone knows what xresprobe does?
[15:46]  * yaaar has a video card that X seems to be misidentifying
[15:46] <mrlinux> hello
[15:46] <sledgeSRV> please help me dear ubuntu ppl.  i had vista running on my PC and power outage occured and my boot ddrive got fried.  i want to get whatever data might be on there of before reformatting and putting ubuntu on as my OS  but when i boot from ubuntu CD the drive wont mount... any ideas??????????
[15:46] <mr_daniel> I use the Network Manager to connect to a OpenVPN VPN. But now I want to establishe a connection manually with console. How can I do this?
[15:46] <mr_daniel> or asked in another way: what is Network Manager doing behind the scene to establishe a VPN connection to a OpenVPN server?
[15:46] <Radtoo> sledgeSRV: Well, if that's the boot drive itself it is perhaps physically fried?
[15:47] <glitsj16> !find xresprobe | cck
[15:47] <yaaar> i've got this rage xl pci card, and X insists on using the 'mach64' driver for it, even though all my searching says it ought to be handled by the 'ati' driver instead
[15:47] <mrlinux> i was using ubuntu 7.04 with firefox 2 and i could play shockwave stuff like the gadget show website but now upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 and shockwave no longer works any ideas?
[15:47] <Radtoo> sledgeSRV: If its another drive, explain "how" it won't mount if it has any visible errors or what not
[15:47] <[vali]> sledgeSRV, or the filesystem is screwed
[15:47] <sierinjs> files, which ends with ~ can be surely deleted? like they're tmp?
[15:47] <KB1JWQ> sierinjs: Usually, but don't count on it.
[15:47] <sacarlson> ﻿mrlinux: maybe reinstall firefox 2.0.0
[15:47] <tyler_d1> sierinjs: they are sometimes backup copies
[15:48] <sledgeSRV> i think it might be file system
[15:48] <glitsj16> cck: it's a package X uses to probe your screen(s) for compliant resolutions
[15:48] <KB1JWQ> sierinjs: I've seen some staggeringly stupid naming conventions.
[15:48] <sierinjs> ?
[15:48] <mrlinux> surely firefox 3 could do what firefox 2 could but better
[15:48] <sacarlson> ﻿mrlinux: I had other problem with firefox 3 and just moved back to firefox 2
[15:48] <Radtoo> sledgeSRV: So, what are you trying, exactly?
[15:48] <k1rb> so i run the following... sudo apt-get autoremove --purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.0
[15:48] <k1rb> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[15:49] <k1rb> and i get Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:49] <k1rb> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:49] <sledgeSRV> radtoo: can we take this to PM?
[15:49] <k1rb> sorry meant to pu tthat all on one line
[15:49] <ubuntu> hi guys
[15:49] <TJ__> i need some help, what is the best/most extensive way to test a HDD in ubuntu? I have been running jaunty and twice now my file system has become corrupted, but XP runs fine. what utility can i use to test with?
[15:50] <Bodsda> TJ__: e2fsck
[15:50] <Xcube> genii-around: I would like to share my connection between 2PC runing on different OS.
[15:50] <TJ__> Bodsda, with what options cause when i use it everything test out ok
[15:50] <Bodsda> TJ__: run it from single user mode/recovery mode/'the other option in grub menu'
[15:50] <genii-around> Xcube: The same principle still applies.
[15:51] <Xcube> genii-around: Ok, thank you again =))
[15:51] <ubuntu> in the live cd my ubuntu drive has some funny named files in it when I mount it, how do I mount my original ubuntu harddisk without having incorrect files ?
[15:51] <Bodsda> TJ__: e2fsck -p -f
[15:51] <grawity> genii-around: Does it still apply when the modem and the second box are on different eth interfaces?
[15:51] <TJ__> Bodsda, TY, i'll give it a go.
[15:51] <grawity> Ah, nevermind.
[15:52] <[vali]> TJ__, dont forget to unmount the partition
[15:52] <[vali]> opps, too late
[15:52] <Radtoo> sledgeSRV: No, bad idea. I dont focus on these and I might not know the solution to everything, which would mean you could start again in the channel if it didn't work
[15:52] <genii-around> grawity: The method for sharing a connection from an Ubuntu box to another box is the same regardless of the OS the other box is using
[15:52] <hub_> how to enable vsync on ATI video card with opensource drivers ?
[15:52] <mrlinux> has anyone got shockwave working in firefox 3 other than wine?
[15:52] <tonytraductor> on our way...installing system
[15:52] <grawity> genii-around: I did not say anything about the "other OS"
[15:53] <tonytraductor> it's probably going to take me a couple of days to get everything up and running in production mode again
[15:53] <ubuntu> genii-around : sorry I meant on the same machine, I have ubuntu installed and I want to view the contents of that drive
[15:53] <ubuntu> from the live cd
[15:53] <ubuntu> it is an ext2 partition on /dev/sdb5
[15:53] <tonytraductor> have to install tcl8.5 and a bunch of my own tcl apps, set my ddclient again, restore bookmarks, install other 3rd party stuff, translation software, blah, blah
[15:54] <tonytraductor> but I think it's going to be nice to be back in Ubuntu land
[15:54] <ubuntu> damn its annoying to have ubuntu as a nickname ^^
[15:54] <tonytraductor> something I didn't check for...seamonkey is available in our repos, yes?
[15:54] <Radtoo> ubuntu:  /nick somethingelse
[15:54] <erUSUL> ubuntu: change it
[15:55] <glitsj16> mrlinux: i don't think shockwave exists as a native linux package ... at least not according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[15:55] <ScottG> erUSUL: Damn, ok.
[15:55] <ubuntu> test
[15:55] <[vali]> tonytraductor, some of that things should not be missing. Most user dependent config are stored in $HOME
[15:55] <ubuntu> didn't change
[15:55] <tonytraductor> oh, right
[15:55] <ubuntu> brb
[15:55] <ScottG> erUSUL: Compressing that vbox vdi file ran all night and still didn't finish
[15:55] <tonytraductor> like, my .fluxbox dir with my keybindings and custom menus will still be there
[15:55] <TheOnlyTaj> Hello everyone, I'm quite new to ubuntu, I just got a new (used) laptop that came with two hard drives and was dual booted with xp and ubuntu and I nearly instantly fell in love with ubuntu.  I hadn't used any linux based system since knoppix first came out and was so frustrated with the lack of driver support that I only used it for...quasi legal purposes while in college, but am now in...
[15:56] <TheOnlyTaj> ...love with it.
[15:56] <tonytraductor> if I did this right
[15:56] <[vali]> tonytraductor, just "ls -al ~" and you will see the "hidden" config files
 but it was working when i was using firefox 2
[15:56] <hatter243> TheOnlyTaj, welcome back!
[15:56] <ubuntu_> in the live cd my ubuntu drive has some funny named files in it when I mount it, how do I mount my original ubuntu harddisk without having incorrect files ?
[15:56] <BZACE> Does anybody know about a good folderview-app for Gnome, like KDE's "Plasmoid"-widget?
[15:56] <tonytraductor> what about, for instance, configs for apps that I will have to reinstall (like OmegaT), since the .omegat dir is still there, it should just be configged upon installation?
[15:57] <hatter243> ubuntu_, try to fsck it before you mount it
[15:57] <BZACE> I've tried the screenlet, but that's crap. buggy as hell
[15:57] <erUSUL> tonytraductor: yep
[15:57] <[vali]> tonytraductor, yeah
[15:57] <tonytraductor> co0l..convenient
[15:57] <creative83> When I have an installation error (eg: error processing gnome-app-install (--configure)) how do I get rid of it?
[15:57] <[vali]> thats the "unix" way instead "windows" way
[15:57] <glitsj16> mrlinux: i'm not questioning that, but there seems to be no trace of it besides through wine
[15:57] <jawall> Running Jaunty Ubuntu with KDE..
[15:57] <tonytraductor> and, thus, bookmarks for seamonkey and mail configs will still be there, too?
[15:57] <jawall> everything works great
[15:57] <mrlinux> :(((
[15:58] <jawall> How can I make open office look more like it does in gnome?
[15:58] <ubuntu_> hatter243 : I did but it says "The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2"
[15:58] <tonytraductor> use gnome
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> ive never noticed it looking different...
[15:58] <tonytraductor> sorry...couldn't resist
[15:58] <nmvictor> mrlinux: using kde?
[15:58] <TheOnlyTaj> I do have two quick questions for people, and they are more matters of preference, just looking to save time testing things myself right now (which I'm sure I'll do in the future myself anyways)
[15:58] <mrlinux> no gnome
[15:58] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: yes. /home is seperate, applications manage their own configuration, thus the distribution used matters only so much :)
[15:58] <ubuntu_> hatter243 :but if I do find /boot/grub/stage1 it points out that drive out
[15:58] <heroicwisdom> can somebody tell me how to mount a smbfs share that has a space in it?
[15:58] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: *IF* /home is seperate.
[15:59] <grawity> heroicwisdom: Add quotes around the share's name?
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> heroicwisdom:  either 'quote' the share name or use the 'escape' methid   'share\ name' I think
[15:59] <ScottG> erUSUL: I guess i will see next how long it takes to transfer the file normally over the network
[15:59] <tonytraductor> yeah, it's on a separate partition
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> heroicwisdom:  I find it much easier to just make shares with no spaces in the names. :)
[15:59] <heroicwisdom> hmmm ok i will try it thanks
[15:59] <TheOnlyTaj> The first one is what is the best irc program to use with ubuntu, right now I'm just using chatzilla because I knew it would work quickly and easily, and Im not a fan of pidgen
[15:59] <heroicwisdom> not my choice...
[15:59] <mrlinux> i was using ubuntu 7.04 with firefox 2 and all was fine but since i upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 last night which has firefox 3 shockwave no longer works
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> heroicwisdom:  from 'gnome' file manager you use %20 insteqd of a space
[15:59] <Bodsda> !best | TheOnlyTaj
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> smb://server/share%20name
[16:00] <nmvictor>  mrlinux: whats your current desktop envirinment?That was my query
[16:00] <mrlinux> gnome
[16:00] <rupert> networkmanager question- recently my network manager has been acting up, the WPA get scrambled and it refuses to connect to my wifi point, i can pick up all the points fine, but the WPA is screwy
[16:00] <glitsj16> mrlinux: have you tried browsing to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ and letting firefox add its "missing plugins" routine yet ?
[16:00] <TheOnlyTaj> ok, I didn't know that there were bots for that, thanks that's a huge help in itself
[16:00] <ubuntu_> I'm asking how to view my drive from the live cd because I did a grub restore and Ubuntu crashes on boot in the initramfs saying that my /dev/sdb5/ is an invalid argument
[16:00] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: yes, of course then it should work.
[16:01] <heroicwisdom> those quotes did it, thanks alot guys
[16:01] <tonytraductor> I chose to choose partitions manually, overwrite / and not screw with the /home partition
[16:01] <tonytraductor> I think I did that right
[16:01] <mrlinux> glitsj16: i tried that already and no joy
[16:01] <rupert> how can i reset the wpa password, without going through the network manager
[16:01] <rupert> ?
[16:01] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: yes, thats the way to do this
[16:01] <tonytraductor> co0l
[16:02] <ubuntu_> when I boot my ubuntu I have a message saying "mounting /dev/sdb4 on /root failed: Invalid argument" any help ?
[16:02] <mrlinux> i got the shockwave flash plugin in firefox so flash stuff works
[16:02] <ubuntu_> sdb5 **
[16:02] <nmvictor> ubuntu_: whats you HDD?
[16:02] <tonytraductor> almost there
[16:02] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: now you just need the same user name, and perhaps you might need to change file s to that owner (they're actaully bound to a number that is mapped to an username, and that number might be off now, but its trivial a thing to fix if it happens)
[16:02] <tonytraductor> 82%
[16:02] <ubuntu_> when I boot my ubuntu I have a message saying "mounting /dev/sdb5 on /root failed: Invalid argument" , then its sending me to an initframs console.
[16:02] <tonytraductor> this is a quick install
 western digital
[16:03] <TheOnlyTaj> the second question, for torrents, I'm used to using utorrent, and would rather stick with linux based rather than going through wine, so I'm currently using transmission but I seem to be having a problem getting it to load the same files from multiple trackers, am I doing something wrong or does this program not do that by default?
[16:03] <abhilash2> whats twitter shortcut messenger in ubuntu??
[16:03] <ram4nd> Can anybody help me to get my graphics card work in 9.04
[16:03] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: sorry if that was a bit incomprehensible. etiher way, if it does give you a problem with access permissions addressing it will be very easy. But pick the same user name if you can.
[16:03] <mrlinux> doesn't youtube use shockwave?
[16:04] <destable> did intel graphics driver was updated since 9.04 release? cuz it was broken as it shipped
[16:04] <varsendaggr> i have a website that works locally, but i need help directing outside traffic.  i opened the port in my firewall and edited ports in apache and restarted it with no errors
[16:04] <tonytraductor> yeah, I chose the same username
[16:04] <KB1JWQ> varsendaggr: Forward port 80 at the NATting device?
[16:04] <SaintStewart> Howdy folks.
[16:04] <tonytraductor> uhoh...fatal error Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed
 I used easybcd from windows xp to remove vistas boot record from a harddrive but seems that it affected all harddisks, so I had todo a restore of grub from the livecd and when I booted into ubuntu I got the message above
[16:05] <[vali]> tonytraductor, if it is the only user in the computer then it should work
[16:05] <glitsj16> mrlinux:  http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html doesn't mention it either
[16:05] <ram4nd> i would like to know how to use xf86-video-ati drivers on ubuntu and do they work in 9.04???
[16:05] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: hmm, did you also have a seperate /boot and didn't overwrite this, perchance?
[16:05] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: what do we see when we do sudo fdisk -l
[16:05] <tonytraductor> why would it be unable to install grub?
[16:05] <joshjtl> I cant figure out why firefox suddenly has no sound... help?
 I see a list of all my drives
[16:06] <tonytraductor> I don't know...possibly, since some time back I had both ubuntu and pclos in dual boot
[16:06] <ram4nd> firefox have sound???
[16:06] <ram4nd> since when
[16:06] <tonytraductor> likely /boot is separate
[16:06] <mrlinux> does everything else work sound wise?
[16:06] <dayo> joshjtl: try sudo alsa force-reload
[16:06] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: there might be a problem if /boot was not pointed to /boot, I think. Perhaps it even needs to be overwritten...
[16:06] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: you should also paste your menu.lst
 I can't mount my drive in the livecd
[16:07] <ram4nd> should i go somewhere else with my videocar d problem?
[16:07] <tonytraductor> okay, starting install again
[16:07] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: why not?
[16:07] <tonytraductor> funny, the install says This computer has Ubuntu 9.04 on it
[16:07] <tonytraductor> oh wait, it does...it just doesn't have grub installed
[16:08] <dayo> how do i reset the root pw with liveCD?
 its showing only a few random files with funny names and not my original filesystem
[16:08] <Magician> I bought 300 ubuntu 9.04 cd's I am thinking about going to greensboro mall and passing them out. Any thoughts??
[16:08] <mrlinux> that link doesn't mention anything on shockwave
[16:08] <dayo> Magician: don't get arrested for terroristic activities
[16:08] <joshjtl> dayo: thanks that worked
[16:08] <tonytraductor> okay, but in the Prepare partitions dialog, I see /dev/sda1 ext 3 39gb - this is /
[16:08] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: what are you mounting the nfs windows partion?
[16:09] <anjuder_> y a t'il des francais?
 I tried a sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[16:09] <dayo> joshjtl: u're welcome. happens to me every now and then, too.
[16:09] <glitsj16> mrlinux: that was the point, it isn't there for linux
[16:09] <tonytraductor> then there is /dev/sda5 156 gb ext2, this is /home
[16:09] <calrik> I know this is not ubuntu related but anyone here can tell me where vmware default installs to?
 no ubuntu's partition
[16:09] <Radtoo> Magician: If you feel like it. suggestion, also have a way to demonstrate its use?
[16:09] <tonytraductor> and I have /dev/sda6 4.4gb swap
[16:09] <conb123> What is the best web design program for linux?
[16:09] <eigma> I'm using ubuntu 8.04 and I would like an icon on the left side of my taskbar that I can click to see a menu form of the files in my home directory.. how can I do that?
[16:09] <tonytraductor> I don't see a separate partition for /boot
 it is sdb5 as shown in fdisk -l
[16:09] <Radtoo> conb123: Its choice, not "best" :)
[16:09] <mrlinux> :(
[16:09] <joshjtl> dayo odly enought though when you just said that i got a message saying something about one of my devices not working, and there was no sound from a message in quassel
[16:09] <mrlinux> strange how it worked under firefox 2, thats what is so confusing
 it is an exf2 partition
[16:10] <conb123> Radtoo: Well yes but usually theres one thats kind of outstanding and that people really like
[16:10] <ideamonk> My dad's got an old Pentium 3 PC with 16 MB graphics card and 40 gb harddisk. Windows XP has stopped getting itself installed on it, research on internet revealed that that might be due to some problem with hardware, tried windows 2000, out of 5 trials , one trial succeeded in installing... son't wanna keep an OS which wont re-install on PC again. looking fwd to putting Ubuntu, but which one for Dad's old PC? He just wants to watch some movies, liste
[16:10] <ideamonk> n to music, edit word/excel/ppt docs and surf the net.... Suggestions? someone suggested Fiesty Fawn... help
[16:10] <glitsj16> mrlinux: very odd indeed
[16:10] <anjuder_> bonjour j'aurais besoin d'un patch francais pour amule
[16:10] <Magician> I think i can cover that. Good suggestion
[16:10] <tonytraductor> is there a utility on the livecd to install grub to the mbr without rerunning the install?
[16:10] <Radtoo> anjuder_: #ubuntu-fr is better for you :)
[16:10] <DJones> !fr | anjuder_
[16:10] <mrlinux> what does youtube use then i thought it was shockwave
[16:10] <dayo> joshjtl: after a sudo force-reload you might have to restart some sound-utilizing apps, e.g. pidgin, rhythmbox etc
[16:10] <Bodsda> tonytraductor: run 'sudo grub' from the terminal
[16:10] <tonytraductor> ok
[16:10] <joshjtl> dayo: oh of course, i had to do that for firefox
[16:11] <KB1JWQ> ideamonk: How much RAM?
[16:11] <Radtoo> conb123: ah, not really. There's dozens of ways to do web design nowadays and needs differ vastly. :>
[16:11] <tonytraductor> okay, I have grub>  now what do I do?
[16:11] <glitsj16> ideamonk: look into xubuntu for that kind of hardware perhaps
[16:11] <dayo> joshjtl: yeah, sometimes it will wipe out your ff, too.
[16:11] <ideamonk> oh forgot RAM IS 256 MB
[16:11] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: did you try mount the other partions to see what was in them?
[16:11] <anjuder_> desoler DJones c la premiere fois que je vient je ne maitrise pas grand chose
[16:11] <glitsj16> mrlinux: youtube uses regular flash plugin, not the shockwave player
[16:11] <xtrekkiee> Hello Everyone
[16:12] <SaintStewart> 9.04 should be ok on a P3, I would think.  Its on my daughter's P2 lappy and works fine.
[16:12] <ideamonk> so its 256 MB RAM, Pentium 3 850 Mhz, 16 Mb shared graphics mem, 40 GB hard disk... question is which Ubuntu ????
 yes every windows partition is showing but not my linux
[16:12] <Radtoo> anjuder_: /join #ubuntu-fr pour support en francais, stp...
[16:12] <PrebenR> after upgrading 4 different computers to Jaunty 9.04, I have problems with sound in ALL. In one I get the problem that after a program say pidgin tries to play a sound PCM is set to 0. The other computers Master is muted on boot? Is it the crappy pulseaudio that does this?
[16:12] <tonytraductor> hmmm, I did Tab to get a list of options, and "install" is in those options, but when I give "install" command, I get "Error 12: Invalid device requested"
[16:12] <erUSUL> ideamonk: xubuntu or a low specs especific distro like puppy linux or dsl
[16:13] <ideamonk> erUSUL: will xubuntu be okay for Dad ?? I think he would be comfortable with Gnome
[16:13] <Radtoo> conb123: but you can surely ask what programs might work for certain types of web development here (if you specify the latter). Which is best, you'll have to figure out yourself. :)
[16:13] <lundh> !usb
[16:13] <PrebenR> ideamonk, nono
[16:13] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: I asume it's corupted or encrypted.  was there anything of value on it?
[16:13] <PrebenR> ideamonk, don't install gnome or KDE
[16:13] <erUSUL> ideamonk: 256 MB of RAM is too tight for gnome
[16:13] <ideamonk> PrebenR: why ?
[16:13] <tonytraductor> I have no idea why my /home partition is ext2 instead of ext3
[16:13] <ideamonk> oh
[16:14] <afec> how can use twinhan satalite card in ubuntu
[16:14] <ideamonk> erUSUL: what about old Ubuntu like 7.04 or something ?
[16:14] <Bodsda> tonytraductor: this might help -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[16:14] <PrebenR> ideamonk, they will hog alle the resources of your computer. I recommend xfce4 or something lighter like openbox + fbpanel+ rox or thunar
[16:14] <tonytraductor> should I repartition the 29gb / partition and add a partition for /boot?
[16:14] <ideamonk> PrebenR: hmm okay thx
[16:14] <afec> ubuntu 8.02
[16:14] <ideamonk> erUSUL: thanks
[16:14] <GTG> Does anybody know how I can copy over another user's desktop files? where are the desktop files?
[16:14] <erUSUL> ideamonk: still think too low ram
[16:14] <VryNew2NewUbuntu> Being extremely new to Ubuntu I am trying to setup a web server and would like any comments/suggestions on the best virtual app to use I have t ried Virtualmin , but have real problems with the suexec part any HELP would be greatly appreciated
 sadly many
[16:14] <Radtoo> tonytraductor: if you had no seperate partition for /boot before, it can be elegant to have one but it is not necessary.
[16:14] <PrebenR> ideamonk, xfce4 is way mor usable than gnome anyway
[16:15] <Bodsda> GTG: depends what you mean by desktop files
[16:15] <dayzman> hi
[16:15] <MenZa> ideamonk→ I really suggest 9.04 with Xfce.
[16:15] <tonytraductor> desktop files are usually in /home/user/.Desktop I think
[16:15] <afec> hi
[16:15] <dayzman> can mv take a regex pattern?
[16:15] <unr3a1> hey all
[16:15] <GTG> icons and stuff I had on a different account on my comp
[16:15] <MenZa> dayzman→ I should think so - try checking `man mv`
[16:15] <erUSUL> dayzman: no
 but I'm sure its not corrupted, since grub can find itself there
[16:15] <ideamonk> PrebenR will put that, so it comes with any xubuntu right ?
[16:15] <Radtoo> dayzman: a bash expression pattern, yes... but not all types of regesx
[16:15] <unr3a1> how do i start the file browser from the command line?
[16:15] <conb123> Whats the command to show which version of ubuntu your running?
[16:15] <erUSUL> dayzman: the shell will do glob expansion though see man bash
[16:15] <tonytraductor> the question I would have now it, if I didn't have one before, why did grub fail to install?
[16:15] <MenZa> unr3a1→ type 'nautilus'
[16:15] <afec> i want to use satalite card on ubuntu aqny help
[16:15] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: then maybe just not mounting in the correct type?
[16:15] <hub_> still no idea to enable vsync on ATI x1250 ? :(
[16:16] <joshjtl> dayo: maybe you can help me figure out why i cant record from mic into audacity? I can hear the mic very loadly
[16:16] <erUSUL> !version | conb123
[16:16] <tonytraductor> how big should a /boot partition be?
[16:16] <conb123> Thanks :)
[16:16] <Bodsda> GTG: /usr/share/themes   --   /usr/share/icons    --    ~/.themes    --    ~/.icons
[16:16] <Radtoo> dayzman: "mv *.png ~/"  <- this type of pattern will work, but not really all.
[16:16] <erUSUL> tonytraductor: 256MB is plenty
[16:16] <dayzman> hmm so if i want to move all files starting with m to z, can i do something like mv [m-z].* newdir?
[16:16] <GTG> thanks
[16:16] <erUSUL> tonytraductor: /dev/sda2             494M   52M  417M  11% /boot
[16:16] <ahmadkhaled> hey
[16:16] <dayo> joshjtl: sorry, i've never used the mic before. but maybe check your Sound config?
[16:17] <conb123> erUSUL: That didn't work
[16:17] <ahmadkhaled> hi
[16:17] <MenZa> dayzman→ if that doesn't work, you could do an ls, use a pipe and grep that text according to a regex pattern and mv that.
[16:17] <erUSUL> dayzman: yep
[16:17] <erUSUL> dayzman: [m-z]*
[16:17] <Radtoo> dayzman: If i recall correctly, [m-z]* newdir/ - yes, I think that might work
[16:17] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_:  maybe try mount -t ext3 /dev/xxx /mnt   and ext2  and a few others to be sure
[16:17] <unr3a1> MenZa, ty
[16:17] <glitsj16> hub_: have you checked if the ATI catalyst control center has an option to enable vsync ?
[16:17] <erUSUL> conb123: what did not work? lsb_release -a ?
[16:17] <dayzman> oh yes indeed
[16:18] <dayzman> why is it [m-z]* and not [m-z].*?
[16:18] <teapot> Hey guys. Can anyone tell me how to blacklist the ath5k_pci module and load the older ath_pci module instead?
[16:18] <conb123> erUSUL: Is that the command because i think that thing you typed was meant to get the bot to send me something but i didn't recieve anything
[16:18] <hub_> i cant, proprietary drivers dont works in 9.04
[16:18] <Radtoo> dayzman: if you need something more sophisticated in terms of a regular expression, find -exec (and whatever expression type statement you need) can do the job, possibly
[16:18] <Radtoo> dayzman: regex is not a standardized things. There's dialects. :)
[16:18] <erUSUL> conb123: it must be death... run « lsb_release -a » on a terminal
[16:18] <teapot> ath9k, rather.
[16:18] <erUSUL> !list
[16:18] <VryNew2NewUbuntu> Does anyone have any alternatives to Webmin/virtualmin, or is the  wrong place to be asking?
[16:18] <tonytraductor> one nice thing, this livecd had no problem with my video card & monitor, which were heck to configure in PCLOS
[16:18] <conb123> erUSUL: Thanks
[16:19] <erUSUL> !ebox | VryNew2NewUbuntu
[16:19] <teapot> No wait... right the first time.
[16:19] <Pici> erUSUL: The bot is loading
[16:19] <erUSUL> VryNew2NewUbuntu: the bot is death... check out ebox; webmin is not supported in debian/ubuntu
[16:19] <dayzman> ah ok
[16:19] <dayzman> thanks
[16:19] <VryNew2NewUbuntu> okay thank you very much
[16:19] <erUSUL> Pici: great; thanks
[16:19] <Radtoo> dayzman: find supports the .* syntax (and also another) if you prefer it.
[16:20] <teapot> Hey guys. Does anyone know how to blacklist the ath5k_pci module and load the older ath_pci module instead?
[16:20] <tripp> can i please get some help installing 3rd party software (labview)
[16:20] <MenZa> !anyone | tripp
[16:20] <tripp> yes MenZa?
[16:20] <usr13> VryNew2NewUbuntu: Do you have one specific server application that you want a GUI front-end for?
[16:20] <tonytraductor> should my / partition be primary or logical?
[16:20] <usr13> erUSUL: Who killed the bot?  :)
[16:21] <joshjtl> can anyone help me figure out why i cant record sound from mic into audacity? I can hear my mic very loadly
[16:21] <MenZa> tripp→ the bot appears to be gone - you should try to state your question more specifically - what kind of files do you have when you download labview, etc.?
[16:21] <erUSUL> usr13: dunno; it was death when i arrived XXDD
[16:21] <tonytraductor> joshjtl, is the soundsystem running in full duplex mode?
[16:21] <tripp> i have multiple .rpm files, and an install script
[16:21] <eternal_p> hey all, question...is it possible to send a print job to a text file, or raw data file, similar to the windows printing option
[16:21] <joshjtl> tonytraductor: dunno
[16:21] <tripp> how do I run the script?
[16:21] <[vali]> does Labview have a "README" or "INSTALL" file ?
[16:21] <MenZa> tripp→ rpm files are not compatible with Ubuntu. You need a different release.
[16:21] <usr13> erUSUL: So we can safely assume it wasn't you.  That
[16:21] <usr13> s good
[16:21] <creative83> tonytraductor: Doesnt matter I guess
[16:22] <VryNew2NewUbuntu> No being new to all of this I just wanted a good GUI to setup some sites, I have the LAMP stack and DNS packages installed on a clean server and that is as far as I have got
[16:22] <joshjtl> tonytraductor: where can i check?
[16:22] <creative83> tonytraductor: I have my /boot primary. The rest is logical
[16:22] <erUSUL> tripp: rpm are not supported in ubuntu... we use deb files... installing them via alien can be dangerous and mess up your system
[16:22] <tonytraductor> which doesn't matter, primary or logical?
[16:22] <tripp> yes, readme does not contain install information and I dont know what to do with INSTALL
[16:22] <erUSUL> usr13: :P
[16:22] <tonytraductor> let's see...if you're using gnome, I don't know
[16:22] <usr13> tripp: rpm files are for RH/Fedora.
[16:22] <creative83> tonytraductor: You can only have 4 primaries afaik.
[16:22] <joshjtl> tonytraductor: kde
[16:22] <tonytraductor> I've never used gnome, just KDE and now fluxbox or openbox
[16:22] <erUSUL> tripp: INSTALL is usually a text file explaining how to install
[16:22] <creative83> tonytraductor: So use logical whenever possible.
[16:22] <tripp> kk, so to use the software I need redhat?
[16:23] <tripp> the INSTALL is just for the runtime engine
[16:23] <tonytraductor> okay, logical appears to be the default choice, anyway, even though there are only 4 partitions on the machine
[16:23] <MenZa> tripp→ Unless you can find proper support. You can also try converting the packages with !alien, but this is definitely not recommended.
[16:23] <Radtoo> eternal_p: uhm, yes. you could print to postscript / pdf or such, but you need to use a driver that poses as printer afaik.
[16:23] <tonytraductor> should I be telling it to format the /boot during install?
[16:24] <eternal_p> Radtoo: issue is, I'm trying to convert a scanned pdf document to text, however as it is scanned on an angle, I am having trouble with the conversion
[16:24] <erUSUL> eternal_p: use cups-pdf package it allows to install a pdf printer
[16:24] <creative83> tonytraductor: If you're sure you're doing the right thing, yes.
[16:24] <tonytraductor> actually, it appears to have formatted it as ext3 while making the partition
[16:24] <Radtoo> eternal_p: That's very different. You want to do OCR, I think.
[16:24] <tonytraductor> perhaps it doesn't need to be formatted again, but I will choose "yes"
[16:24] <eternal_p> Radtoo: as a matter of fact, yes
[16:24] <asy_> ubuntu 9.04 is too slow too use compiz on my laptop,my graphic card is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series.
[16:24] <glitsj16> teapot: "sudo rmmod ath5k_pci" first, add "blacklist ath5k_pci" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (to keep it from reappearing on reboot) ... "sudo modprobe ath_pci" and again, to keep that in the future, add "ath_pci" to /etc/modules (this is untested but the logic should be ok)
[16:24] <codeshah> hey guys, is there a GUI for subversion in Ubuntu?
[16:25] <snikker> hi, i've got a problem with vlc, the video windows is not inluded in the interface even if the relative option is enabled. can you help me?
[16:25] <eternal_p> anyone know of a good ocr in the repos?
[16:25] <teapot> glitsj16: Yep, thanks. Just managed to find a guide telling me that :)
[16:25] <tonytraductor> okay, here we go again
[16:25] <geek758> tried to install 9.04 "Inside Of Windows" now my PC will POST "SHUTTLE-X" but wont boot or enter setup :(
[16:26] <Radtoo> eternal_p: I think (just think) using pdftopbm and then using gocr might be an option.
[16:26] <glitsj16> teapot: np :)
[16:26] <eternal_p> Radtoo: thanks, every tried Tesseract before, seems to pop up in the repos?
[16:26] <RoosterJuice> what is the most stable version of ubuntu server for use with web apps?
[16:27] <Radtoo> eternal_p: But I'm not sure you can get very good results with OCR in many cases. What I however think to know is that you don't really connect it to the printing subsystem here.
[16:27] <jpds> RoosterJuice: Hardy?
[16:27] <jpds> RoosterJuice: Probably best off with an LTS.
[16:27] <RoosterJuice> jpds, lts?
[16:27] <boobsbr> hi, how do i configure glassfish on my machine? i just installed it and it created a default domain which starts automatically using the root user
[16:27] <joshjtl> anyone know how to check if im running in fullduplex?
[16:27] <Radtoo> eternal_p: tesseract - ah, true, that had better results than gocr when I gried.
[16:27] <AmnesiaUK> hello folks, is anyone familiar with the message: Failed to sofreset(device not ready)
[16:27] <AmnesiaUK> ?
[16:27] <xrfang> hello, what is the gtk-immodule or qt-immodule? I am installing ibus, but synaptic does not select the ibus-gtk or ibus-qt module ...
[16:27] <boobsbr> oh, i'm on jaunty
[16:28] <tonytraductor> nossa senhora, still going pretty quick
[16:28] <frenzy_usa> Running Windows XP Pro in VirtualBox 2.2.2 on Jaunty.  Windows keeps crashing with delayed write failures.  Where should I start looking to find the cause of this problem?
[16:29] <tonytraductor> good thing I have this laptop to stay on with you guys while doing all of this stuff on my main box
[16:29] <AmnesiaUK> Is there anyone available?
[16:29] <ZAKhan> is there is xen kernel available for 9.04?
[16:29] <teapot> glitsj16: Unfortunately, that didn't work...
[16:29] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: probably a message from the libata sata drivers concerning one of your disks or/and sata controller
[16:29] <teapot> Any other ideas?
[16:29] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, yup
[16:29] <glitsj16> teapot: any error messages to start debugging the issue ?
[16:30] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, [    1.996298] ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[16:30] <AmnesiaUK> [    1.996349] ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
[16:30] <AmnesiaUK> [    2.160313] ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
[16:30] <AmnesiaUK> [    2.160734] ata1.00: ATA-8: FUJITSU MHZ2320BH G2, 00000009, max UDMA/100
[16:30] <AmnesiaUK> [    2.160737] ata1.00: 625142448 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
[16:30] <FloodBot2> AmnesiaUK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <AmnesiaUK> [    2.161357] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/100
[16:30] <Crash|hd> Morning yall :) I was wondering in the system->Administration there is a menu item for NVIDIA X Server Settings but when I click on it I cant do any changes as it doesnt have gksudo in the command and it doesnt ask for a password to do the changes? how do I fix that other then making another icon on the desktop or something
[16:30] <tonytraductor> oh wait, Josh, you should be able to openj the KDE Control center and find sond system, and there should be a button to make full duplex
[16:30] <teapot> glitsj16: FATAL: Module ath5k_pci not found.
[16:30] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: do not paste here use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:30] <jawall> How do you change the look of OpenOffice in KDE on Jaunty..?
[16:30] <boobsbr> hi, how do i configure glassfish on jaunty? it creates a default domain at /var/lib/glassfish/domains/domain1 which starts automatically using the root user
[16:30] <teapot> glitsj16: BUT connection information says clearly "Driver: ath5k_pci"
[16:30] <jawall> The menus in open office are huge and have words instead of icons.
[16:30] <Radtoo> eternal_p: If I remember correctly, I got a tif from the pdf document by opening it with the gimp, and saving to tif. And then I tesseracted that. BUT I'm not sure anymore.
[16:31] <eternal_p> Radtoo: I'll give it a shot, thanks
[16:31] <xangua> jawall: tools> preferences> appearence i think
[16:31] <glitsj16> teapot: i see, i thought you had that module loaded, try lsmod | grep ath to check what you have running right now
[16:31] <tonytraductor> we have our own pastebin, huh?
[16:31] <tonytraductor> does it autopost new pastes to the channel?
[16:31] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/164962/
[16:31] <erUSUL> tonytraductor: no
[16:31] <tonytraductor> I like the way #tcl has one of those
[16:31] <tonytraductor> when you paste to the pastebin, a notification comes up in #tcl
[16:31] <teapot> glitsj16: Oh, it's actually ath5k not ath5k_pci
[16:32] <tonytraductor> I don't have any idea how they do that, though
[16:32] <Pici> tonytraductor: That really wouldn't work in a channel of this size.
[16:32] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: first it fails [    1.996298] ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[16:32] <glitsj16> teapot: well that should clear things up
[16:32] <Hymnosis> !fuse
[16:32] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: then retrys and succeeds ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300
[16:32] <tonytraductor> 61% and counting
[16:32] <teapot> glitsj16: Thanks very much. We'll see how this goes. :)
[16:32] <AmnesiaUK> uhu
[16:32] <boobsbr> hi, how do i configure glassfish on jaunty? it creates a default domain at /var/lib/glassfish/domains/domain1 which starts automatically using the root user
[16:32] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: so i think you can ignore it... or are you seeing problems with that disk ??
[16:32] <glitsj16> teapot: you're welcome, hope it works this time around
[16:33] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, nope its working fine, but I'm trying to boot jaunty from a usb stick
[16:33] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, and it ends up with (initramfs)_
[16:33] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: dunno; never tried installing from usb
[16:34] <boobsbr> hi, how do i configure glassfish on jaunty? it creates a default domain at /var/lib/glassfish/domains/domain1 which starts automatically using the root user. dpkg can't find the install.pl script
[16:34] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, ahh okay
[16:34] <tonytraductor> I'm going to have to get used to sudo instead of su again
[16:34] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, but it isn't a problem with my sata controller?
[16:34] <salvo> ciaooooo
[16:34] <[vali]> tonytraductor, or just sudo bash and then passwd
[16:34] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: if that's what you see on the logs it is not
[16:34] <erUSUL> !hi | salvo
[16:35] <tonytraductor> oh yeah, for longer root sessions, thanks for the reminder
[16:35]  * erUSUL the bot is back yay!
[16:35] <creative83> AmnesiaUK: You could use smartmontools to check if theres something wrong with your hd/controller.
[16:35] <erUSUL> !rootshell | [vali] tonytraductor
[16:35] <tonytraductor> sudo go make me a sandwich
[16:35] <Radtoo> boobsbr: well, asadmin and all the other glassfish thingies still work by the book, so...
[16:35] <salvo> hi
[16:35] <Radtoo> boobsbr: Its not really anything ubuntu specific...
[16:35] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, well ok:) so I guess it fails cause of the pmp?(since it says retry pmp=0)
[16:36] <[vali]> NO, I want to use a real root shell and ill do the way i said :P
[16:36] <boobsbr> Radtoo, but i can't configure the default installation. only my personal domains
[16:36] <salvo> qualke italiano
[16:36] <teapot> glitsj16: Unfortunately, that didn't work. Wireless was not an option after loading the ath_pci driver, but I'm sure I loaded that driver in Arch Linux so I'm quite sure it works.
[16:36] <grawity> [vali]: sudo -i _does_ give you a real root shell.
[16:36] <erUSUL> AmnesiaUK: i dot give much importance to that messages... it brings up the controller
[16:36] <koond0g> what's wrong with Tracker since the upgrade?
[16:36] <erUSUL> !it | salvo
[16:36] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, mkay
[16:36] <erUSUL> !notes | koond0g known issue check the notes for solution
[16:37] <tonytraductor> 81%
[16:37] <Radtoo> boobsbr: You can configure the default installation as long as you are switching to the user it's configured for - but it IS more elegant to just have your own domains, yse
[16:37] <AmnesiaUK> erUSUL, well thanks for the info:), and sorry for bothering you
[16:37] <Radtoo> boobsbr: Better not use the default one, actaully.
[16:37] <koond0g> sweet, thanks!
[16:37] <teapot> glitsj16: I'm trying to get this working because Arch Linux had a much better connection to the wireless than Ubuntu so I'm assuming it's a driver issue.
[16:37] <[vali]> I dont like the sudo thing at all... I've been using linux since 95 and the "sudo way" is awfull to me
[16:37] <boobsbr> Radtoo, but how can i stop it and make it never start up automatically?
[16:37] <erUSUL> [vali]: you are free to do whatever you want including shooting yourself in the foot XD
 did what you suggested and still no mount
[16:38] <glitsj16> teapot: too bad indeed, out of ideas on this one i'm afraid
[16:38] <_chun> Is it possible to remove the names/labels from desktop icons?
[16:38] <teapot> glitsj16: Alrighty. Thanks all the same. :)
[16:38] <[vali]> lol... I dont plan to login with root, only use it the "right" way XDDDD
 the funny thing is that I see my menu.lst when I boot on grub, which means the filesystem isn't corrupted by anymeans
[16:38] <tonytraductor> 99%
[16:38] <tonytraductor> looks like success! now for reboot
[16:38] <wildc4rd> can you allocate network IP's to virtual clients? or do they use the virtualbox host IP
[16:39] <Radtoo> boobsbr: aah. perhaps it's in /etc/init.d/glassfish?
[16:39] <[vali]> wildc4rd, IIRC you can configure it on virtualbox
[16:39] <Radtoo> boobsbr: or /etc/rcX.d/glassfish
[16:40] <boobsbr> Radtoo, ok, did not know about rcX.d directory
[16:40] <sacarlson> ﻿ubuntu_: grub is loaded on a different partion normaly on hda0
 I've added grub to all my harddrives
 <sacarlson> check this out http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/527/dsc00080b.jpg
[16:41] <teapot> glitsj16: Nevermind! Forgot to do modprobe -r ath5k before modprobe ath_pci!
[16:41] <teapot> glitsj16: My connection looks a lot faster now. :D
[16:41] <tonytraductor> weird
[16:41] <teapot> glitsj16: Thank you very much! :D
[16:41] <glitsj16> teapot: nice catch heh
[16:41] <tonytraductor> okay, installation was successful, and it didn't overwrite my former /home partition, but it is not mounting it as /home
[16:41] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[16:41] <boobsbr> Radtoo, not in any of the rcX.d directories either there eit
[16:42] <tonytraductor> rather, it is treating it as a separate partition, and I have to use my password to access it
[16:42] <tonytraductor> I have a /home dir on the / partition
[16:42] <tonytraductor> not convenient
[16:43] <[vali]> modify your /etc/fstab
[16:43] <erUSUL> tonytraductor: you will have to modify your fstab and folder names permissions etc... to make it all work
[16:43] <RoosterJuice> does anyone know anything about vi?
[16:43] <tonytraductor> all my files are here, but not in /home, rather in /media/disk/tony
[16:44] <benovic> what prog can i use to quick and dirty cut .avi videos? Kino is nice, but the DV conversion takes helluvalot time.
[16:44] <[vali]> RoosterJuice, only enough to edit files in a simple way
[16:44] <erUSUL> RoosterJuice: only that it only has two modes one in which it beeps and one in which it does not XD
[16:44] <tonytraductor> is there a way to reconfigure this so that what is now seen as /media/disk can be seen as /home?
[16:44] <Kaga> a fresh ubuntu 9.04 install and dpkg or any compiling dont seem to work
[16:44] <stew> RoosterJuice: its safe to assume that many people do.  just ask your real quetion
[16:44] <Kaga> (Reading database ... dpkg: ../../src/filesdb.c:581: findnamenode: Assertion `(*pointerp)->name[0] == '/'' failed.
[16:44] <LeeQ> how do I check current HD use via command line?
[16:44] <[vali]> tonytraductor, yes, edit /etc/fstab
[16:44] <majnoon> Keep making the coffee ,but keep forgetting to turn it ON :(
[16:44] <RoosterJuice> how do i add a line in vi?
[16:44] <stew> LeeQ: "df" or perhaps "df -h"
[16:44] <tonytraductor> oh yeah,
[16:44] <benovic> LeeQ df
[16:44] <tonytraductor> I don't suppose you could give me a sample line for that
[16:44] <stew> RoosterJuice: "o"
[16:44] <majnoon> wow
[16:44] <[vali]> RoosterJuice, "o"
[16:45] <Maqq> RoosterJuice: type "i" for INSERT mode
[16:45] <erUSUL> tonytraductor: as already pointed out... modify your fstab (add an entry for your home partition) then if permissions/usernames do not match you will have to modify that too
[16:45] <yusuf14> hi
[16:45] <majnoon> who farted??
[16:45] <tonytraductor> what do I have on here for a text editor?
[16:45] <RoosterJuice> thanx
[16:45] <Mion> tonytraductor: only you can know
[16:45] <RoosterJuice> guys
[16:45] <LeeQ> benovic: stew: thank you
[16:45] <Qwell> Does anybody have an 8.10 desktop box available they could do a very quick test with?  I'm trying to confirm exactly what changed here, and it's being a pain...
[16:45] <Mion> tonytraductor: but you probably have vi atleast
[16:45] <tonytraductor> oh no...no vi, can't go there
[16:45] <gartral> majnoon: stay on topic, take OC to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:45] <erUSUL> Qwell: i'm still in 8.10...
[16:46] <tonytraductor> do I have nano, joe, pico?
[16:46] <tonytraductor> I can check that
[16:46] <[vali]> tonytraductor, it is easy to figure out how to modify your fstab looking at a previous one
[16:46] <erUSUL> tonytraductor: nano probably
[16:46] <tonytraductor> nano, yes
[16:46] <Mion> tonytraductor: vi(m) is much nicer :)
[16:46] <Qwell> erUSUL: would you mind a quick msg?  it'll be a fast test, if you don't mind helping
[16:46] <Mion> (and so is emacs)
[16:46] <boobsbr> Radtoo, not in any of the rcX.d directories either
[16:46] <tonytraductor> bah, vi/vim sucks
[16:46] <Mion> tonytraductor: use emacs then
[16:46] <majnoon> gartral, i apologize for fart comment ,but KEEPING the coffe one
[16:47] <RoosterJuice> stew, [vali], Maqq how do i exit edit mode?
[16:47] <Radtoo> boobsbr: and you did check /etc/init.d/glassfish?
[16:47] <yusuf141> i've a problem with my graphics card it's called S3 prosavage ..
[16:47] <[vali]> RoosterJuice, "esc"
[16:47] <stew> RoosterJuice: esc
[16:47] <RoosterJuice> save?
[16:47] <[vali]> then ":wq" to exit saving changes
[16:47] <boobsbr> Radtoo: yes, that script doesn't exist either
[16:47] <Mion> :wq or ZZ
[16:47] <Maqq> ctr+shft+zz
[16:47] <gartral> majnoon: either case is OT, i think its fair to say another comment like it will earn you a kick, yes?
[16:47] <yusuf141> there is no  accelerateing ,,
[16:47] <Mion> Maqq: no ctrl
[16:47] <Mion> just >>
[16:47] <Mion> ZZ*
[16:48] <Radtoo> boobsbr: odd, it used to be started this way when installed by ubuntu
[16:48] <tonytraductor> okay, snanoo I have /etc/fstab up in nano, but I'm a bit lost on how to edit it to make my /home partition /home
[16:48] <Maqq> Mion, bah, you're right
[16:48] <Qwell> erUSUL: hold 'a', wait 1 second, hold shift, wait 1 second, release shift, wait 1 second, release 'a'.  What do you end up with?  Did it stop the repeat when you pressed shift, or did it immediately switch the case of the 'a' (to 'A')?
[16:48] <yusuf141> i've a problem with my graphics card it's called S3 prosavage ..
[16:48] <tonytraductor> I think the partition is /dev/sda5 (since sda6 is swap and sda7 is now boot, and / is sda1)
[16:48] <yusuf141> how do i fix that ??
[16:48] <Qwell> tonytraductor: you can run fdisk -l to list all partitions
[16:49] <Mion> yusuf141: we can't know unless you tell us _exactly_ what the problem is
[16:49] <[vali]> time to go... cu guys
[16:49] <boobsbr> Radtoo: the package i installed is called "glassfishv2" and not the "glassfish-appserv"
[16:49] <erUSUL> Qwell: the later... worked as i spected
[16:49] <Mion> yusuf141: "I have a problem with my car, how do I fix that?"
[16:49] <tonytraductor> yeah, sda6
[16:49] <Maqq> hehehe
[16:50] <gui_> yoplait
[16:50] <Qwell> erUSUL: okay, so that isn't what changed then...  back to the beginning.  thanks
[16:50] <tonytraductor> so, shoud I do something like: /dev/sda6 /home defaults 0 0
[16:50] <gui_> ca farte le gass
[16:50] <erUSUL> Qwell: althought i noticed a very little hiccup the first time shift is pressed...
[16:50] <yusuf141> Mion . ok .. i've S3 prosavage graphics card ,, and the compiz effects doesn't work !!! and any small effects ...
[16:50] <Qwell> erUSUL: about 500ms?
[16:50] <Radtoo> boobsbr: i don't know how this one is started, then... do you run a command or something?
[16:50] <Qwell> maybe 250ms even?
[16:51] <eternal_p> anyone get VirtualBox 2.2 working with USB
[16:51] <erUSUL> Qwell: half a second? do not think so
[16:51] <Mion> yusuf141: what driver are you using?
[16:51] <erUSUL> Qwell: i can not tell is almost imperceptible
[16:51] <yusuf141> mion ,, graphics card ??
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> eternal_p:  i think you need th virtualbox packages from the vbirualbox homepage. not the version in the repos
[16:51] <Qwell> erUSUL: if you do the same thing, except press and release shift many times quickly..  I end up with aaaaaaaaaaAaaAAaaAaaAAaaAaaAAaaAaaaAaaAaaaAAaAAaaAaaAAaaAAaaAaaaAaaaAaaa
[16:51] <Mion> yusuf141: btw, even with the correct driver, the support for compositing and 3d on that card is rather lacking
[16:51] <Qwell> no pause whatsoever..
[16:51] <tonytraductor> errr, actually¸it's sda6
[16:51] <Mion> not to mention that it's rather slow
[16:51] <eternal_p> Dr_Willis: that is what I am using
[16:52] <erUSUL> Qwell: or maybe not that unperceptible 250 ms -- 500ms i can concede
[16:52] <tonytraductor> sda1 is /boot, sda2 is linux extended (containing /boot), sda5 is /, and sda7 is swap
[16:52] <tonytraductor> so sda6 is /home
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> eternal_p:  ive gotten it working to read my thumbdrive in the past.. but it was a pain. had to tweak with the vbox settings then i started it up. then i recall twiddling with teh vbox client menus
[16:52] <impeachgod> hello folks
[16:52] <tonytraductor> I'm just not sure how to edit /etc/fstab accordingly
[16:52] <yusuf141> Mion ok this is the info from the command lspci
[16:53] <boobsbr> Radtoo: no, i just installed it through aptitude and it started by itself
[16:53] <djiezes> Anybody tried taking an image from Ubuntu 9.04 on ext4 with Clonezilla? Does the most recent clonezilla support it? I just tried with the jaunty20090413 version and it uses dd. I wonder if more recent versions use partimage instead of dd.
[16:53] <xray7224> hey wait a min why is Radtoo in here
[16:53] <yusuf141> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[16:53] <impeachgod> I am running 9.04 and have no sound; I am using a Samsung laptop with Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with CS4202
[16:53] <erUSUL> Qwell: yes the pause is only the first time you press shift... what are you trying to prove ?
[16:53] <impeachgod> I did not change any settings; sound periodically stops working
[16:53] <iceroot> are there official cd-labels for lightscribe anywhere?
[16:54] <impeachgod> I turned up the volume for everything and tried ALSA and OSS
[16:54] <Mion> yusuf141: lspci won't tell you what driver you are using
[16:54] <Qwell> erUSUL: that something changed between 8.10 and 9.04.  modifiers (I thought all, but I am willing to accept that shift doesn't count) used to stop repeats - even if briefly
[16:54] <yusuf141> mion , how do i know that ?
[16:54] <snikker> no one can help me with vlc?
[16:54] <StaR> sa
[16:55] <Qwell> contrived example: hold F4, press alt.
[16:55] <Radtoo> boobsbr: Ubuntu would, by default, usually use these files / directories I pointed you at to run something on startup. But I'm not sure if you have even rebooted in the meantime?
[16:55] <tonytraductor> ok, googled, I see /dev/sda6 /home nodev/nosuid 0 2
[16:55] <Qwell> That absolutely did not used to close a window.  It would be absurd to assume it might.
[16:55] <tonytraductor> don't know why nodev,nosuid 0 2, but I'll try that
[16:55] <Mion> yusuf141: your xorg.conf will show you that
[16:55] <Mion> and if you don't have one, the xorg log will
[16:56] <tonytraductor> will I have to reboot to get it mounted properly? or will logging out of X and back in implement the new /etc/fstab?
[16:56] <yusuf141> mion , oh good i'm gonna to see (:
[16:56] <Mion> tonytraductor: umount the partion and mount -a
[16:56] <abama> mount one device to mountpoint and driver module loaded, when umount , how to unload the module at the same time?
[16:56] <mweichert> hello, I'm trying to use Ubuntu 8.04 with the Jaunty kernel (.2.6.28)... I installed the Jaunty kernel packages, rebooted, and voila - I'm on 2.8.28 (gotta love linux for that capability). However, I'm having network issues. Network Manager detects my NIC, but never gets an ip assigned to it. If I manually do "sudo dhclient eth2" I can see that a successful lease is found, but then "ifconfig" doesn't display anything
[16:56] <Mion> abama: you have to do that explicitly
[16:56] <boobsbr> Radtoo: I usually look for startup scripts in /etc/init.d. and no, I haven't rebooted since the installation, do you think it would help?
[16:57] <abama> Mion, what should i do that explicitly?
[16:57] <yusuf141> mion , do i have pastebin it ??
[16:57] <Radtoo> boobsbr: It is entirely possible that apt just started a glassfish server with a domain for you, once, and that this default domain doesn't get started automatically the next time anyways.
[16:57] <Pici> tonytraductor: sudo mount -a   will check /etc/fstab and mount things that are not mounted.
[16:58] <boobsbr> Radtoo, thanks for you support, i will try to reboot
[16:58] <Gleim> /join #ubuntu-es
[16:58] <tonytraductor> it says /dev/sda6 already mounted or /home busy
[16:58] <tonytraductor> rebooting
[16:59] <abama> Mion, i have one question about the load/unload module for usb device
[16:59] <yusuf141> mion , here it's http://pastebin.com/m14d0cece
[16:59] <indus> NICK
[16:59] <ienorand> mweichert: try disabling n-m and do everything manually, it's a last resort but there have been cases where n-m have borked and interfered with manual setup, just a shot.
[17:00] <Mion> abama: just let udev load the module you need for you, and don't bother with unloading it (unless it breaks something)
[17:00] <yusuf141> mion , where are you ??
[17:00] <tonytraductor> uhoh...some error with e2fsck, trouble mounting /dev/sda6
[17:00] <Mion> when the module is loaded but not in use, the only thing it does is to take up a few kb of ram
[17:01] <yusuf141> Mion // i've opened the XORG.conf ,now what ??
[17:01] <Mion> yusuf141: my tip is to just give up on compiz with that card.
[17:01] <Mion> the drivers are less than good, and the card is slow
[17:01] <joshjtl> tonytraductor: I dont see a fullduplex button
[17:02] <ienorand> tonytraductor: you running fsck from a drive and on that drive?
[17:02] <tonytraductor> okay, for some reason, it is mounting /dev/sda6, but not as /home, and thus, not using the configuration I gave to /etc/fstab, or something
[17:02] <tonytraductor> I'm not fscking at the moment, no
[17:02] <abama> Mion, my problem is just how to unload module when umount one device
[17:02] <yusuf141> mion , ok thank you ,.,
[17:02] <Mion> abama: you can't do that automagically without a lot of hacking
[17:02] <ienorand> tonytraductor: Ah, misunderstod.
[17:03] <amgarching> how do I "ls" a directory tree with a tree-like output?
[17:03] <Mion> abama: and there really isn't a reason to do it either, unless the module conflicts with something else you want to use
[17:03] <Mion> amgarching: tree
[17:03] <tonytraductor> I put "/dev/sda6 /home ext2 nodev,nosuid 0 2" in /etc/fstab, but it is not mounting /dev/sda6 as/home
[17:03] <Mion> tonytraductor: sure it is ext2
[17:03] <abama> Mion, one requirment needs to do that
[17:03] <glitsj16> amgarching: ls -l ?
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> !find tree
[17:03] <joshjtl> Can anyone help me get audacity to record mic? I can hear my mic quite loudly but cannot record
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> I recall a tree command.. or somthing like that.
[17:04] <tonytraductor> it was before I did this install
[17:04] <tonytraductor> how do I check that?
[17:04] <tonytraductor> fdisk -l doesn't tell me
[17:04] <mweichert> ienorand, thanks, I'll try that.
[17:04] <Dr_Willis> !info tree
[17:04] <Mion> abama: you could hack in some udev stuff to automaticly rmmod the module, but it will be ugly, just rmmod it yourself explicitly, if you absolutly have to
[17:04] <mweichert> any idea how to make linux reset all device nodes? I only have two nics and they are detected as eth2 and eth3... I'm not sure why not eth0 and eth1
[17:04] <Mion> abama: what module is it btw?
[17:05] <Lint01> is there some tool to view chart of directory sizes on device?
[17:05] <Mion> Lint01: lots
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> Lint01:  ive seen sevarl in the package manager listings
[17:05] <Mion> Lint01: both gui, ncurses and html
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> Lint01:  depends on exactly how ya want it done.
[17:06] <manish> Hi All
[17:06] <manish> thanks for ubuntu
[17:06] <manish> i am new here and want to know about ubuntu
[17:06] <tonytraductor> could it be that I need to somehow remove the /home on the / partition?
[17:06] <manish> any one help me please
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> !training
[17:06] <steven_> Someone has told me that Ubuntu is not a true Linux distribution as it does not have a compiler or whatever. Is that true?
[17:06] <joshjtl> no
[17:06] <defrysk> Lint01, baobab
[17:06] <tonytraductor> could the existence thereof be why I am getting "/dev/sda6 is already mounted or /home busy"?
[17:06] <joshjtl> gcc
[17:06] <erUSUL> mweichert: check this file --> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[17:07] <manish> any one help me on printer on ubuntu
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> steven_:   you can easially install a compiler.. and there is no definition of a 'true linux disrbution'
[17:07] <Mion> tonytraductor: no
[17:07] <steven_> Alright
[17:07] <kesiode> hi all, I upgraded a few weeks back and now I constantly have this orange triangle update alert in the taskbar.  When I click on it I get a warning that "not all updated can be installed" and a button for "partial upgrade".  When I click that I get prompted for a pw and nothing happens.  What do I do?
[17:07] <Mion> tonytraductor: umount the partion before you mount -a
[17:07] <manish> i have canon / hp printer in company work fine
[17:07] <manish> but some time printer printer some block and dark ink
[17:07] <abama> Mion, it's usb-storage.ko, scsi emulation for mass storage devices. the main reason is two devices, one is  scsi CD-ROM sr1, the other is scsi generic sg2 type 5, i just need the sg2, and want to unload the sr1
[17:07] <manish> any one help me
[17:07] <Mion> tonytraductor: or use mount with the remount option, to remount the partion with the options you want
[17:07] <ELoXL> As someone who's on 9.0.4 as their first Ubuntu OS I found this link to be very useful to get things started in this new world: http://ubuntutip.googlepages.com/thefirstthingstodo
[17:08] <tonytraductor> how to I use mount with remount option? tried mount -a, but get error
[17:08] <Mion> abama: just rmmod it?
[17:08] <defrysk> try sudo mount -a
[17:08] <Mion> tonytraductor: umount /dev/sda6
[17:08] <Mion> mount -a
[17:08] <abama> Mion, not that, umount /media/DTMxxx
[17:08] <ELoXL> i recommend that manish
[17:09] <tonytraductor> hmmm, says /dev/sda6 not mounted (so apparently /home busy is the issue)
[17:09] <ienorand> kesiode: see if you can run the updates using synaptic (system menu) instead?
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> ELoXL:  its not very good that The site you listed  suggests using envy-ng from the start. :) its best to use the repo versions of drivers instead If they work.
[17:09] <Mion> tonytraductor: man mount, or telinit 1 and then umount /dev/sda6
[17:09] <manish> i installed the driver but some time printer garbaz
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> ELoXL:  at least they make a note to try envy-gtk last.. but the note should be at teh 'start' of the 'use envy-gtk' paragraph heh.. :)
[17:10] <abama> Mion, /dev/sr1 on /media/DTM5731 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=0)
[17:10] <afancy> hi, under ubuntu, any tools make ePub books?
[17:10] <ELoXL> i'll consider that
[17:10] <ienorand> tonytraductor: what does "cat /etc/mtab" say? (pastebin)
[17:10] <manish> i try canon 2900 / canon 3000  hp 100 and more
[17:10] <kesiode> ienorand, what exactly should I look for in synaptic?
[17:11] <ELoXL> I was also curious if there was any drastic difference with Ubuntu-Studio to the "regular" Ubuntu
[17:11] <manish> but i have lot of printer problem with ubuntu
[17:11] <abama> Mion, there are two devices, /dev/sr1 and /dev/sg2
[17:11] <ELoXL> attempted to check it out, but it doesn't even load a GUI
[17:12] <tonytraductor> lotso stuff
[17:12] <ienorand> kesiode: status: installed (upgradable) filters to the left
[17:12] <tonytraductor> let me find the pastebin on the other machine and paste it
[17:12] <ELoXL> tried loading the GUI, but it appeared to have some sick bug - which coming from a WinOS i'm not so accustomed to.
[17:12] <abama> Mion, sr 19:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1, and sr 19:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5
[17:12] <ienorand> tonytraductor: oh, do you not have net access?
[17:12] <manish> any one suggest me good site for printer problem
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> ELoXL:  ubuntu-studio just has some different default pacages i think.. it might be using a different kernel.. but im not sure on that.
[17:13] <nA1828KcFz9q> Hello. What do I need to place in xorg.conf to replicate the command, "xset fp+ /usr/local/share/fonts/bitmap"?
[17:13] <ELoXL> np, thx
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> manish:  cups.org   for the printer-drivers homepage.. is a good strt
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> manish:  canon printers can be a pain
[17:13] <tonytraductor> okay, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6264db29
[17:13] <tonytraductor> that's my /etc/mtab
[17:13] <jean-claude> exe
[17:13] <mweichert> erUSUL, perfect... what would be the consequences of setting no persistent names?
[17:14] <mweichert> would Ubuntu add it's own entries in that file?
[17:14] <kesiode> ienorand, thanks, that seemed to work.
[17:14] <djiezes> For those who're curious: Clonezilla experimental jaunty 20090501 works fine taking an image from an ext4 filesystem. Partclone supports ext4.
[17:14] <trelayne> Hi all, does anyone know where I can find a Ubuntu support chart for various SSD hardware?
[17:14] <manish> i install the hp / canon printer but some time printer print garbez or not print correct
[17:14] <ELoXL> Number one issue for - ANYONE I just need a simple yes or no, but I've been going crazy trying to get my Canon ZR25DV camcorder to act as webcam with skype in 9.0.4, AND NO LUCK!
[17:14] <ienorand> tonytraductor: so the line "gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/tony/.gvfs fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon rw,nosuid,nodev,user=tony 0 0" seems to imply that you have still something mounted on home.
[17:15] <ELoXL> I've been looking for an answer and have come across nothing.  I've run some apps that have utilized my camcorder, but no luck with skype to set up such a connection.
[17:15] <tonytraductor> yeah, home busy, but I don't know why...
[17:15] <tonytraductor> it's not mounting the separate partition as /home
[17:15] <ienorand> tonytraductor: I'm not sure if you'd just use "umount /home/tony" to fix it...
[17:16] <tonytraductor> so the /home that exists is that on /
[17:16] <tonytraductor> let me try that
[17:16] <ienorand> tonytraductor: are you logged in as the user tony atm?
[17:17] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I want to connect my laptop and my TV via my shiny new S-video cable, but it Doesn't Work(tm)    :(   what do I do?
[17:17] <tonytraductor> yes, logged in as tony (only user on the system)
[17:17] <manish> printer not printer cheque printing / a postcard like printing / envelop printing in ubuntu
[17:17] <ELoXL> I'm out here folks - happy helping. :)
[17:17] <manish> or printer not work good with 2-3 copy
[17:17] <tonytraductor> but I did a reboot, and thought it would use the new /etc/fstab so that the separate partition would mount as /home
[17:17] <jonaskoelker> I'm using the "radeon" driver; is it known to have this problem?
[17:18] <Giles> hello I have a fresh install of Jaunty/Ubuntu   For some reason there is a missing icons tab in the appearances preferences. (sorry if this is a faq)
[17:18] <ienorand> tonytraductor: Since I'm not sure if you can unmount the home of an operating user, maybe would have to go into recovery (root console) to do that... I'm not sure though, anyone else have ideas on that?
[17:18] <ienorand> tonytraductor: yea, thats true, seems like it should...
[17:18] <jonaskoelker> I'm a video noob; is this a driver issue at all?  Or is it something else?  xrandr?  kernel module (nah... all video stuff is done in X, right?)?
[17:18] <gartral> anyone know how to configure pastebinit?
[17:19] <tonytraductor> but, why didn't it just mount /dev/sda6 as /home on reboot, as indicated in /etc/fstab?
[17:19] <administrator__> oh my god
[17:19] <tonytraductor> shouldn
[17:19] <tonytraductor>  t it do that on boot?
[17:19] <Jaso1> good day to all
[17:19] <ienorand> gartral: pastebinit --help
[17:21] <gartral> ienorand: that doesnt help me acomplish what i want... i want to reconfigure pastebinit so it will allways default to MY pastebin server...
[17:21] <Giles> Anyone experienced a missing icons tab in the appearances preferences, after a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04?
[17:21] <manish> any one help me on printer to print on envelop * postcard size paper
[17:22] <ienorand> tonytraductor: have you looked through: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving ?
[17:22] <Liquidated> Cor blimey it's full in here!
[17:22] <Liquidated> Anyone know anything about Ubuntu on ARM?
[17:23] <tonytraductor> no, but I'm looking at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome#usingnew
[17:23] <speedxcore> my jaunty hangs on "copying installation logs" is there any easy fix?
[17:23] <speedxcore> installation that is
[17:23] <Giles> Liquidated: yeah
[17:23] <Giles> I think I will come back later when there is less traffic
[17:23] <Liquidated> Hi Giles :). Don't suppose you know a list or anything of what phones it goes on do you?
[17:23] <grawity> Giles: There's never "less traffic" in here :)
[17:24] <usr13> Giles: good luck.  It's been like this for years.
[17:24] <tonytraductor> okay, I don't have any uuid=??? in my /etc/fstab line, but I don't know what should be the uuid
[17:24] <Dracofodder> trying to install scanner driver for Epson NX400 on ubuntu 9.04, is coming up with dependancy error libltdl3 not greater than 1.5.2-2,  any ideas on how to remedy this?
[17:24] <Giles> Liquidated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/DeviceSupport?
[17:24] <Liquidated> Cheers mate :)
[17:24] <Giles> not much there
[17:24] <Liquidated> Thought it'd be larger than that.
[17:24] <Liquidated> haha
[17:25] <dundel> i have some problems installing ubuntu 9.04 in virtualbox
[17:25] <dundel> the guest addtionts are not working
[17:25] <ienorand> gartral: you could always hack /usr/bin/pastebinit
[17:25] <dundel> video driver
[17:25] <tonytraductor> how would I determine what should be in UUID=  ?
[17:25] <Liquidated> Do you have an actual machine to test it on?
[17:25] <Giles> Liquidated: sorry, that was my first hit on google for your question, prehaps you will have more luck yourself.
[17:25] <joshjtl> ugggh audacity was recording from mic for a minute... now its not again, i didnt touch anything!!!
[17:26] <Liquidated> I'll keep looking. Thakns for putting me in the right direction though :)
[17:26] <glitsj16> tonytraductor: use "sudo blkid" to find your UUID's
[17:26] <ienorand> gartral: or create an alias, or make a new "mypastebinit" in /usr/bin and edit that....
[17:26] <outboard> any one got anyideas as to how to get winxp to see the samba shares on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[17:26] <outboard> ** any ideas
[17:26] <Giles> Liquidated: handhelds.org ?
[17:27] <gartral> ienorand: i dont know how to make an alias
[17:27] <Liquidated> Will browse through, thanks again :)
[17:28] <Jeruvy> outboard if its set up, then just browser network for it, or map the drive
[17:28] <mnpk> clear
[17:28] <Giles> So....Can everybody just leave this room for a few secs
[17:28] <trelayne> has anyone gotten Dell's 128GB SSD drives to work under Ubuntu?
[17:28] <Giles> even the ones that are about to come in please ;)
[17:29] <outboard> yeah well it is setup  , maybe , but for some reason ap cant see it
[17:30] <outboard> **xp
[17:30] <Giles> oh wait I know.....    HEY LOOK A FLYING BLIMP
[17:30] <ienorand> gartral: add a line e.g. *alias mypastebinit="pastebinit -b http://mypastebin.com"* (without stars) in ~/.bashrc and use source ~/.bashrc to load the new settings
[17:30] <Magician> add kicking in
[17:31] <outboard> Giles what iare you on ? there is enough going on in here without your spam
[17:32] <Giles> sorry, I was just trying to see if I could distract everyone to go outside, and leave the chat room so that it wasn't so crowded, (I will refrain from further spam)
[17:34] <Giles> Does anyone know where I might have more luck finding the answer to my question, about the missing icons theme tab in appearance preferences in gnome.
[17:35] <k1rb_E> im doing a sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart .. and getting apache2: could not reliably determin the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName  ... i havent been succesful with google
[17:35] <ienorand> Giles: Forums is generally next step from irc...
[17:35] <uncategorized> just upgraded to 9.04, i've tried reinstall subversion, but it continues to demand libdb4.3
[17:36] <uncategorized> i'm guessing this is from my previous install
[17:36] <uncategorized> do i need to purge and then try again?
[17:36] <k1rb_E> uncategorized: try a purge first
[17:37] <skippy_> Is it possible to install windows 7 from linux somehow.. My CD/DVD drive is broken and i dont have windows installed
[17:37] <Gacker> Exam suxx
[17:37] <uncategorized> the purge didn't work...when i run, it still wants libdb4.3
[17:37] <Gacker> VMware
[17:38] <Pici> Giles: The tab normally appears only when you decend into customize theme.
[17:38] <skippy_> Gacker: i mean real installation, not virtual
[17:38] <uncategorized> doesn't make sense, libdb4.6 is list in 'aptitude show'
[17:38] <Gacker> k
[17:38] <mibzzer15> anyone know how to fix GRUB error 18?
[17:38] <Gacker> like wubi u mean ?
[17:38] <TopBunny88>  Or virtualbox skippy_
[17:38] <k1rb_E> uncategorized: try sudo apt-get -f install
[17:38] <Giles> Pici: okay I will try that.
[17:38] <Giles> cheers
[17:38] <MK13> skippy_: why go back?
[17:38] <Dalamar> does ATI Radeon HD 3200 have poor support in ubuntu? desktop graphics likely not to work?
[17:39] <k1rb_E> im doing a sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart .. and getting apache2: could not reliably determin the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName  ... i havent been succesful with google
[17:39] <skippy_> MK13: I'm not going back, im just gonna test new windows 7 and i might need it for games
[17:39] <skippy_> my "main" OS will still be ubuntu
[17:39] <djalmaaraujo> i'm using dual view on my ubuntu but my primary monitor only works with 1380x... BUT.. should be 1680x1050 and i'm sure of this resolutions. help´?
[17:39] <uncategorized> k1rb_E: nada. any other ideas?
[17:40] <Weedy> i'm dual booting and i would like to mount my windows partition r/w just like a can a flash drive
[17:40] <fethi> hi
[17:40] <proci> hi all
[17:40] <leftyfb> is it possible to turn off signon notifications for pidgin? It's annoying as hell. I have over 1000 contacts between work and personal and i'm getting several notifications every minute.
[17:40] <Weedy> how would I make it visible to kde?
[17:40] <fethi> it is easy
[17:40] <TopBunny88> Weedy: Be aptian and some one will help you
[17:40] <MK13> skippy_: good :) , have you tried making a bootable usb drive?
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g | Weedy
[17:40] <glitsj16> k1rb_E: echo "ServerName localhost" | sudo tee /etc/apache2/conf.d/fqdn
[17:41] <Weedy> i know how to do it from the command line
[17:41] <Weedy> point is i'm lazy
[17:41] <dudedano> i installed ubuntu according to this manual, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA ,but i cannot chop the cd
[17:41] <Weedy> how do i get hal to stop ignoring it
[17:41] <fethi> install this application from the Add remove window
[17:41] <skippy_> MK13: not sure how to do that in ubuntu, i only found guides for windows
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> Weedy:  sudo ntfs-3g /dev/DeEVICENAME /media/WINDOWS (with the proper options is one way)  install/run the 'ntfs-config'  tool is another way that might work
[17:41] <glitsj16> k1rb_E: that info comes straight from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache
[17:41] <fethi> Removable Drives and Media
[17:42] <tidalcreek> hi guys
[17:42] <tidalcreek> i have a serious problem :(
[17:42] <Weedy> Dr_Willis: it's still hidden
[17:42] <fethi> what is it
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Weedy:  if windows dident properly shut down/unmount the ntfs drive. then linux will 'ignore' it by default for safty reasons
[17:42] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: you still need 'mount' somewhere in that command :)
[17:42] <tidalcreek> i tried some shell scripting ... and  damn!
[17:42] <uncategorized> argh...how can i force ubuntu to redo the dynamic library dependencies for subversion
[17:42] <tidalcreek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164995/
[17:42] <tidalcreek> all messed up! help please!
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  Hmm theres a ntfs-3g command i recall. :)
[17:42] <Weedy> no ntfs-3g mounts it fine
[17:42] <miha> hello guys, 1. ubuntu with desktop effects likes to hang when you press notebook keys such as volume up/down, 2. network manager fails to reconnect (you must enter password again and press connect)
[17:42] <oipat> Dr_Willis: Is it any way to mount the ntfs partition anyways?
[17:42] <fethi> ok i'll see now
[17:42] <miha> are you aware of the issues?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Usage:    ntfs-3g [-o option[,...]] <device|image_file> <mount_point>
[17:43] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: oh, my bad,never new that did the same as mount -t ntfs-3g
[17:43] <fethi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164995/   this nothing
[17:43] <smtx> howdy
[17:43] <Shadow_Sam> hi all. how can I  perform graphically things like create folder, links when I need to be root?
[17:43] <tonytraductor> perhaps part of my problem is that I need the .dmrc and .ICEauthority from the /home/tony on / to be in the partition I'm trying to mount as /home, maybe?
[17:43] <uncategorized> ...this is, why does ldd `which svn` look for libdb4.3 when `aptitude show subversion` lists libdb4.6?
[17:43] <smtx> i am on xubuntu and i am searching a fast usable webbrowser that does not eat up that much ram as firefox does
[17:43] <Weedy> Shadow_Sam: learn to do it on the command line
[17:43] <tidalcreek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164995/
[17:43] <smtx> opera is not avail for xubuntu 9.04 as it seems
[17:43] <Bodsda> tidalcreek: perhaps you should try harder next time :)
[17:43] <tidalcreek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164995/
[17:43] <tidalcreek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/164995/
[17:43] <FloodBot1> tidalcreek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-3g command has a 'force' option
[17:44] <oipat> Shadow_Sam: You don't have to be root to create directories withing your own home directory.
[17:44] <LjL> !repeat | tidalcreek
[17:44] <Shadow_Sam> Weedy: I do already. I just know if has this option
[17:44] <Weedy> Shadow_Sam: sudo <filemanager> if you still refuse
[17:44] <Slart> !gksudo
[17:44] <neodragon> I am running Jaunty on my main PC an every time I try to save a bookmark in firefox, after closing firefox and reopening it later all my saved book marks are gone, help?
[17:44] <Weedy> ah
[17:44] <Shadow_Sam> oipat: but like folder like apache, that I have to set config files
[17:45] <Weedy> anyway
[17:45] <Weedy> my problem isn't that i can't mount my windows partition
[17:45] <ubuntistas> what unmountu means?
[17:46] <Weedy> it's that i can't expect the people who will actually USE this pc to use the command line to mount it
[17:46] <neodragon> I am running Jaunty on my main PC an every time I try to save a bookmark in firefox, after closing firefox and reopening it later all my saved book marks are gone, help?
[17:46] <tonytraductor> I wish nautilus would show the file path
[17:46] <glitsj16> smtx: read instructions to add the opera repo on http://deb.opera.com/ and it will be
[17:46] <ubuntistas> what does unmount means?
[17:46] <Weedy> ubuntistas: un mount
[17:46] <Weedy> like obviously
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> Weedy:  if you set it up right - they wont have to.   for internal drives you can put a proper entry in thefstab.. HOWEVER if they fail to shutdown windows properly the drives will get ignoired for data safty reasons.. dont use windows hibernate/suspend
[17:47] <ubuntistas> what?
[17:47] <lascar> how can i downgrade to 8.04, short of installing from cd?
[17:47] <neodragon> Weedy: there is an ntfs configuration tool in the ubuntu repos that will allow you to setup mounting of your windows partition at boot time.
[17:47] <gartral> lascar: you cant....
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-config
[17:47]  * lascar sighs
[17:47] <gartral> lascar: i dont think... anyway
[17:48] <AmnesiaUK> is anyone over here familiar with this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164962/
[17:48] <gartral> lascar: *maybe* by changing the repos lists, but that could be dangerous
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> lascar:  i dont think its possible. at least not  wthput possibialty of severe breakage
[17:48] <Weedy> neodragon: i see
[17:48] <oipat> Shadow_Sam: Try `gksudo nautilus` or something
[17:48] <Weedy> < Dr_Willis> Weedy:  if you set it up right - they wont have to.   for internal drives you can put a proper entry in thefstab.. HOWEVER if they
[17:48] <chazco> Hi... is there a problem with irc.freenode.net (cant connect to it)... Anyone know how to play OGMs with totem-gstreamer on 9.04?
[17:48] <ubuntistas> what does unmount means?
[17:48] <Weedy>                       fail to shutdown windows properly the drives will get ignoired for data safty reasons.. dont use windows hibernate/suspend <-- tried this but only works for one user
[17:48]  * lascar nods
[17:49] <iceroot> ubuntistas: umount
[17:49] <grawity> chazco: Err, you _are_ connected to irc.freenode.net right now.
[17:49] <tonytraductor> this is driving me nuts
[17:49] <chazco> grawity - Nope, im connected to chat.freenode.net, and that took several attempts
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> Weedy:  your fstab entry in incorrect then. :)
[17:49] <ubuntistas> iceroot it tells me unmount
[17:49] <Pici> chazco: They are cnames for each other
[17:49] <tonytraductor> I don't understand why it didn't make my /home partition into /home during install, in the first place
[17:49] <grawity> chazco: Well, chat.* points to irc.*
[17:49] <iceroot> ubuntistas: man umount
[17:49] <AmnesiaUK> Has any of you folks ever had: Softreset failed (device not ready)
[17:50] <chazco> Pici / grawity - Thats makes it even more odd that irc.freenode.net wont accept the connection then...
[17:50] <lascar> thanks you two.
[17:50] <iceroot> ubuntistas:  The  umount command detaches the file system(s) mentioned from the file
[17:50] <hickop> hi , how can i know if ubuntu uses sata II mode on my harddrive plz ?
[17:50] <Weedy> Dr_Willis: thanks
[17:50] <ienorand> ubuntistas: what tells you to unmount?
[17:50] <tonytraductor> oh wait...it looks like /etc/fstab has a line with the UUID of that partition BEFORE the line I added
[17:50] <tonytraductor> let me comment that out and try sudo mount -a again
[17:50] <ubuntistas> an mp3 player and it opens with rhythmbox
[17:50] <ubuntistas> iam newbie
[17:50] <AmnesiaUK> hickop, dmesg | grep ata
[17:51] <uncategorized> hi all, still trying to fix broken subversion dependencies from a recent jaunty upgrade
[17:51] <neodragon> I am running Jaunty on my main PC an every time I try to save a bookmark in firefox, after closing firefox and reopening it later all my saved book marks are gone, help?
[17:51] <anthony> salut
[17:51] <AmnesiaUK> neodragon,  is it actually installed or are you a live user?
[17:51] <vargadanis> o/.. what package contains the man pages for eg. strstr?
[17:51] <uncategorized> how do i resolve the libdb4.3 vs libdb4.6 dependency issue....the binary is expecting libdb4.3.so but that is not available
[17:51] <hickop> AmnesiaUK: that output is confusing for me , as it report 3.0Gb/s and 1.5Gb/s too :/
[17:52] <uncategorized> aptitude show subversion lists libdb4.6
[17:52] <AmnesiaUK> hickop, your hdd is probably 3.0Gb/s
[17:52] <neodragon> AmnesiaUK: It is install. I have used ubuntu for several years an never had bookmarks disappear
[17:52] <AmnesiaUK> hickop, 1.5 usually are devices like dvd writers and crap
[17:52] <hickop> ok thanks
[17:53] <AmnesiaUK> neodragon, isn't it related to permissions or something?
[17:53] <Weedy> Dr_Willis: this is what i wanted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=691862
[17:53] <AmnesiaUK> it might not be able to write the bookmark file
[17:53] <ubuntistas> an mp3 player and it opens with rhythmbox ienorand
[17:54] <neodragon> AmnesiaUK: It could be, brb, I will check the permissions on the .firefox folder
[17:54] <anthony> re
[17:54] <uncategorized> found the proble
[17:55] <uncategorized> for some reason i had some binaries in /usr/local/bin
[17:55] <oipat> So apperantly the closed source driver for older ATI cards doesn't work well with xorg 1.6, and I'm stuck with the open source one, which leave me with poor performance. Can I expect ATi to release 1.6 compatible drivers for older cards, or can I just trash the laptop / revert to an older version of xorg?
[17:55] <ienorand> ubuntistas: if you quit all applications related to it you should be able to unmount it by right-clicking either on desktop or in fole browser.
[17:56] <ienorand> ubuntistas: *file browser
[17:56] <miha> oipat: ATI doesnt provide newest windows catalyst drivers for older cards either, just windows have longer release cycles :)
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> oipat:  i doubt if ati will do much for older cards.  They might release specs some day.. but lets just say ati's history is not promising in that area
[17:56] <miha> ati finally did fglrx to support desktop effects
[17:57] <ubuntistas> i don't get it ienorand what's unmount
[17:57] <miha> unfortunatelly now computer hangs if i press volume up while full screen movie :)
[17:57] <miha> i'm thinking of disabling desktop effects
[17:57] <miha> not sure who to blame
[17:57] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: do you know about that option in windows : safely remove hardware ?
[17:57] <gartral> !mount | ubuntistas
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> miha:  i normally disable them anyway.
[17:57] <miha> Dr_Willis those effects are great
[17:57] <miha> but buggy
[17:57] <oipat> miha: So newer ATI cards doesn't work well with 1.6 either?
[17:57] <ienorand> gartral: not really on the level we want :/
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> miha:  theres perhaps 2 that actually are usefull.. rest are just to show off. :P
[17:58] <ubuntistas> pronoy yes
[17:58] <ubuntistas> so?
[17:58] <tonytraductor> okay, it seems that I've successfully gotten it to mount my separate partition as /home, but apparently that /home is missing something essential, which is not allowing me to log in to gnome
[17:58] <ubuntistas> what's mount and what's unmount pronoy
[17:58] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: unmounting and mounting is like that only
[17:58] <davidf88> mount and umount are just unmounting and mounting respectivly
[17:58] <tonytraductor> since I didn't move the install generated home, but tried to use my existing home from the PCLOS install, it's missing something
[17:59] <tonytraductor> I did move the .drmc and .ICEauthority files over
[17:59] <neodragon> AmnesiaUK: it says I have full read write permissions for both the firefox folder and the bookmarks.html
[17:59] <ienorand> ubuntistas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_(Unix)
[17:59] <yowshi> i need help getting my webcam to work with cheese or some other programme for recording from it
[17:59] <AmnesiaUK> neodragon, I presume you already reinstalled firefox?
[18:00] <neodragon> yes
[18:00] <ubuntistas> so pronoy ienorand it tells me to open my device with rythmbox but i don't see my device
[18:00] <AmnesiaUK> neodragon, btw I'm also new in linux so if it arent permissions, I definitely haven't got a clue:/
[18:00] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: ok is that device an mp3 player ?
[18:01] <gartral> ubuntistas: what device DO you have? i had severe issues with my sansa e250 with 9.04
[18:01] <ubuntistas> yup pronoy
[18:01] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: when you plug it in ..does its icon show on the desktop ?
[18:02] <ubuntistas> i have a zen v plus and according to my pc it's recognizing it but i don't see it pronoy gartal
[18:02] <dcom> is it possible to show the ips of hops that dont reply to icmp or udp packets with traceroute ?
[18:02] <ubuntistas> yup pronoy
[18:02] <pronoy_> ok then go to rythmbox and import folder
[18:03] <ubuntistas> yes pronoy it's showing me a device icon
[18:03] <ubuntistas> but i don't wanna import it
[18:03] <ubuntistas> i just wanna see my files
[18:03] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: its just gonna play from there and then you can remove it
[18:04] <oipat> Is there an easy way to downgrade to xorg 1.5
[18:04] <ienorand> ubuntistas: open it in the file browser then...
[18:04] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: well if that's what you want you can alwasy do what ienorand told you :)
[18:05] <zealiod> can i add certain bin files to a group so a bunch of no-admin users can excute them?
[18:05] <ubuntistas> ok guys one more thing
[18:05] <ubuntistas> is wine a pice of trush or are they doing a good job because i think it really sucks?
[18:06] <mah_boi> sorry, wrong room
[18:06] <tecky> well that went much easier than I could have thought, 8.10 -> 9.04 >.>
[18:06] <nanomad> oipat, you should stick with an older ubuntu release with xorg 1.5
[18:07] <AmnesiaUK> Could anyone help me with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164962/
[18:07] <ienorand> ubuntistas: They are doing a great job, but what they are trying to accomplish is very tricky, hence sucess is limited.
[18:07] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: wine is good....best in what's available
[18:08] <AmnesiaUK> Has anyone ever experienced: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[18:08] <AmnesiaUK> ?
[18:08] <ubuntistas> okeyy!!! because when i open a program like totem or picasa my screen is like broken
[18:09] <tecky> AmnesiaUK: your sure the ide / sata ribbon is good?
[18:09] <LinuxApe> Other than dpk --configure -a is there anyway to check if anything is broken after a jaunty upgrade?
[18:09] <AmnesiaUK> tecky, Yep I'm running it now:)
[18:09] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, do you have any drawbacks?
[18:09] <hbekel> AmnesiaUK: does this cause you any trouble?
[18:09] <yowshi> i need help getting my webcam to work with cheese or some other programme for recording from it
[18:09] <AmnesiaUK> hbekel, well it boots fine after the message
[18:09] <hbekel> AmnesiaUK: then you can probably ignore that
[18:09] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, ata1: failed due to HW bug
[18:09] <k1rb_E> i am getting #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured) when i log into phpmyadmin.. halp?
[18:10] <AmnesiaUK> uhu
[18:10] <tecky> ata2 is your cdrom, have you tried a different cdrom?
[18:10] <AmnesiaUK> its a laptop
[18:10] <tecky> well then :P
[18:10] <AmnesiaUK> :)
[18:10] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, blame your laptop/chipset maker then
[18:11] <AmnesiaUK> nanomad, what doe the hw bug mean?
[18:11] <AmnesiaUK> does*
[18:11] <ubuntistas> how can i install gnomad 2 tar.gz file it's tricky
[18:11] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, that is hw related and that the kernel knows about it
[18:11] <ubuntistas> ?
[18:12] <AmnesiaUK> mkay
[18:12] <nanomad> ubuntistas, whats wrong with ubuntu's gnomad2?
[18:12] <arvind_khadri> ubuntistas, you would be compiling that. why dont you use the one in repo
[18:12] <AmnesiaUK> nanomad, but it wouldn't mean there are any problems due to it?
[18:12] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, you could try to update the bios
[18:12] <LinuxApe> Printing  broken since jaunty upgrade.  Communication device error.  Any ideas what to check?
[18:12] <hbekel> AmnesiaUK: sounds to me that your devices/ata chipset don't support soft reset... doesn't seem fatal, obviously
[18:12] <AmnesiaUK> I see
[18:13] <AmnesiaUK> and could that also make it impossible to boot ubuntu from an usb stick?
[18:13] <clarezoe> hi, anyone tell me how to disable laptop touchpad? I have enabled SHMconfig, and installed gsynaptics, but still says SHMConfig not on
[18:13] <AmnesiaUK> since that also doesn't work, it ends up with (initramfs)_
[18:13] <nanomad> clarezoe, how did you enable SHMConfig?
[18:13] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, dont think so
[18:14] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, what kind of laptop is that?
[18:14] <AmnesiaUK> nanomad, Samsung R505
[18:14] <clarezoe> nanomad, I add Option      "SHMConfig"   "on" in xorg.conf
[18:14] <AmnesiaUK> nanomad, the usb stick boots fine with my old laptop
[18:14] <nanomad> clarezoe, are you running jaunty?
[18:14] <clarezoe> nanomad, yes, xubuntu jaunty
[18:14] <nanomad> AmnesiaUK, i see. I cant help you :(
[18:15] <nanomad> clarezoe, whats the content of /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[18:15] <AmnesiaUK> nanomad, mkay
[18:15] <rhombus> I have a server running 7.04 and I want to upgrade to 8.04 LTS. What's the safest way to do this? It's a production server, so I want to avoid a fresh install.
[18:16] <CloudCarrier> could anyone help me figure out why i cant detect blank media in my cd/dvd-rom drive, I can read other disks fine but when i go to burn a disk I get a message saying the media is not blank
[18:16] <yash> rhombus: upgrade to 7.10 and then to 8.04
[18:16] <clarezoe> nanomad, http://paste.ubuntu.com/165014/ here is my xorg.conf
[18:16] <nanomad> rhombus, remember to try this before doing that on the prod server (using a spare machine)
[18:16] <rhombus> yash: yeah, but 7.10 is EOLed also -- is this still the best way?
[18:17] <nanomad> rhombus, still the safest
[18:17] <ks3> dcom: Not that I know of, but you could try doing a TCP traceroute with hping
[18:17] <rhombus> nanomad: So, install 7.04 on a fresh  machine, upgrade to 7.10, then upgrade to 8.04?
[18:17] <yash> rhombus: yes
[18:17] <nanomad> rhombus, i mean...clone your production server drive, and test that before
[18:17] <ubuntistas> gnomad in jaunty doesn't work
[18:18] <rhombus> nanomad: ah, I see
[18:18] <nanomad> ubuntistas, what does not work
[18:18] <ubuntistas> that's why arvind_khadri
[18:18] <nanomad> clarezoe, try this: http://getctrlback.blogspot.com/2008/12/proper-way-to-turn-on-shmconfig-in-x.html
[18:18] <ubuntistas> it says that it doesn not open usb box something like that
[18:18] <nanomad> ubuntistas, can you copy/paste the error message here?
[18:19] <yowshi> i need help getting my webcam to work with cheese or some other programme for recording from it
[18:19] <yusuf14> hi
[18:19] <Mion> ubuntistas: even better, use a pastebin
[18:19] <Mion> ubuntistas: if it's more than 3 lines
[18:19] <tonytraductor> okay, what's the command to logout of fluxbox?
[18:19] <ubuntistas> yuo
[18:19] <nanomad> !pastebin | ubuntistas
[18:19] <Mion> tonytraductor: you should have an entry in the menu to do it
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> yowshi:  from my experience.. either a webcam works.. or is totally unsupported in linux.
[18:19] <tonytraductor> I had fluxboxlogout.sh in my former fluxbox menu (from PCLOS) but apparently that doesn't exist in ubuntu
[18:19] <ascott> part #ubuntu
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> !wecam | yowshi
[18:19] <bc> what do I need to restart when one of my keyboard shortcuts in gnome stops responding/working?
[18:19] <ascott> part #ubuntu
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> !webcam | yowshi
[18:19] <yusuf14> mion , can i activate the 2D effects in ubuntu 9.04 ??
[18:20] <ascott> whoops
[18:20] <ubuntistas> No jukeboxes found on USB bus mion nanomad
[18:20] <skippy_> anyone got vmware workstation trial? I cant find out how to start it
[18:20] <clarezoe> nanomad, thanks, I will go ahead of it and come back to you later!
[18:20] <nanomad> ubuntistas, what kind of player do you have?
[18:20] <yowshi> Dr_Willis: heres the thing gstreamer gets input from it as do a couple othetr programmes/commands but nothing i can use to record locally
[18:20] <nanomad> clarezoe, ok
[18:20] <yowshi> Dr_Willis: or at ;least nothing i udnerstand well enough to use to record locally
[18:20] <nanomad> yowshi, try cheese
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> yowshi:  does cheese even show the image?
[18:21] <yowshi> nanomad: cheese however isnt one of the options that wporks
[18:21] <tonytraductor> wtf?  no xmms?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> tonytraductor:  hasent been any xmms in ubuntu in ages
[18:21] <yowshi> Dr_Willis: nope no image with cheese i get some kind of max connections error with uid 1000
[18:21] <laclasse> mplayer tv:// works well too ... where cheese doesn't
[18:21] <Mion> tonytraductor: use bmp instead
[18:21] <ubuntistas> zen v plus player and it does not work with jaunty now but i t recognizes it in rhythmbox and it's showing me the icon in desktop but i wanna use gnomad
[18:21] <tonytraductor> why? xmms is the best, simplest music program
[18:21] <nanomad> yowshi, try with sudo
[18:21] <Mion> tonytraductor: no, that's moc
[18:21] <tonytraductor> dude...that sucks
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> tonytraductor:  it has 'issues' if you want it - go use source
[18:22] <yowshi> nanomad: Dr_Willis ** (cheese:13216): WARNING **: libhal_ctx_set_dbus_connection: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.LimitsExceeded: The maximum number of active connections for UID 1000 has been reached
[18:22] <laclasse> tonytraductor, that will be mpd
[18:22] <Mion> moc > xmms
[18:22] <ubuntistas> because i can do more stuff
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> yowshi:  i just saw a url that  mentioned some 'usb connection issues'  let me find it.
[18:22] <yowshi> nanomad: wow it gets and iomagew
[18:22] <yowshi> Dr_Willis: cheese wanted sudo priviledges
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> yowshi: http://ubuntutip.googlepages.com/thefirstthingstodo they got some info that was similer to that error for usb devices
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> yowshi:  the site mentions a simile rproblem with scanners.
[18:23] <nanomad> ubuntistas, well, it dependes on what version of libmpt gnomad2 is linked to. You should fill a bug (if the zen v is even supported by gnomad2)
[18:23] <yusuf14> how do i activate the 2D effects in ubuntu 9.04 // using S3 prosavage graphics card ???
[18:23] <nanomad> yusuf14, i'm not so sure you can
[18:23] <ubuntistas> zen v plus player and it does not work with jaunty now but i t recognizes it in rhythmbox and it's showing me the icon in desktop but i wanna use gnomad nanomad
[18:23] <yowshi> nanomad: Dr_Willis well it getas an image with sudo but crashed when i tried recording. i had to kill it :(
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> yowshi:   check that URL under 'part 9'
[18:24] <yusuf14> nanomad . why .. just the 2D effects ...
[18:24] <jals> hi, i used to use kde, now i use gnome, but i still have the kubuntu loading logo at startup, is there a way to change that?
[18:24] <nanomad> yusuf14, you mean compiz?
[18:24] <yusuf14> not compiz or something like thst
[18:24] <yusuf14> nooooo
[18:24] <pronoy_> jals: thats called the usplash image
[18:24] <yusuf14> i just wanna the 2D effects
[18:24] <nanomad> yusuf14 ah
[18:24] <jals> cheers pronoy_ i'll google
[18:24] <yowshi> Dr_Willis: is there a command line function for this it isnt asking me for a password but it is saying i dont have access to do that
[18:24] <yusuf14> yes
[18:25] <skippy_> How do i search for installed programs in ubuntu? I have installed vmware workstation but don't know how to start it
[18:25] <nanomad> yusuf14, the splash screen?
[18:25] <yusuf14> it's called . "desktop effects "
[18:25] <nanomad> yusuf14, so, it is compiz
[18:25] <yusuf14> really . i didn't know ..
[18:25] <aspidites> skippy_: in synaptic search for vmware again. i think there is a files tab at the bottom that will show installed files
[18:26] <nanomad> yusuf14, what does xdriinfo says in a terminal?
[18:26] <thiagoss> I'm using an apt-get repository from my university, but I'm getting "gpg error: .... jaunty release, the following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" when doing apt-get update. How to solve this?
[18:26] <skippy_> aspidites: i installed it from a .rpm/.deb file, it doesnt exist in synaptic
[18:26] <yusuf14> nanmad
[18:26] <krphop> is there a command to show what files a particular package will install?
[18:26] <skippy_> and i need to know the command to start it, "vmware-workstation" doesn't work
[18:26] <yusuf14> nanomad ,Screen 0: savage
[18:27] <nanomad> krphop, after a package is installaed, you can use dpkg -L pkgname
[18:27] <Pici> krphop: If its not installed you'd need to install apt-file first (then sudo apt-file update), then you can do apt-file show packagename
[18:27] <aspidites> skippy_: ah. i think vmware executable is caps. so ls /usr/bin/VM* might find it
[18:27] <aspidites> skippy_: don't have ubuntu so i don't know the command to query installed packages.
[18:27] <calrik> thiagoss: you need to get your universities gpg key and install that first
[18:27] <bullgard4> Why is there no 'man watchdog'? My Ubuntu 8.10 shows a process which has been issued by the 'watchdog/0' command.
[18:27] <ghindo> How do I make a directory accessible to all users?
[18:27] <aspidites> skippy_: also, i thought synaptic tracked all installed debs, not just ones existing in the repo
[18:28] <yusuf14> nanomad  ,  this is the output Screen 0: savage
[18:28] <yusuf14>  
[18:28] <nanomad> yusuf14, what happens if you enable desktop effects
[18:28] <parapanghelescu> hi there ......I have a problem ///// I try to install Ubuntu on a Second drive ....hdb ..this second drive is also de boot drive, having winxp on it...where I should install de bootloader ? grub ?
[18:28] <aspidites> skippy_: in other words, while you can't install from synaptic by default, because it is now installed, synaptic should pick it up
[18:28] <yusuf14> nanomad , could not enable desktop effects
[18:28] <thiagoss> calrik: how to do that?
[18:28] <aspidites> skippy_: at least, that's how my package manager works (pacman)
[18:28] <bullgard4> ghindo: Use the chmod command.
[18:28] <skippy_> aspidites: searched for it and the only one i found was "xserver-xorg-video-vmware" but i dont think its that
[18:29] <ghindo> bullgard4: Like, chmod 777 /directory?
[18:29] <tonytraductor> can't find teacup in synaptic
[18:29] <nanomad> yusuf14, type compiz --replace in a terminal
[18:29] <aspidites> skippy_: did you try the ls idea? ls "/usr/bin/VM*"
[18:29] <bullgard4> ghindo: Yes. But this is not always advisable for security reasons.
[18:29] <thiagoss> calrik: all the repositories download fine, only 'stable/main' complais about it. Is this ok?
[18:29] <tonytraductor> should be part of tcl
[18:30] <m0RrE> is it possible to change the encryption key for my home directory?
[18:30] <nanomad> ubuntistas, gnomad2 only supports Creative Nomad Jukeboxes AFAIK
[18:30] <yusuf14> nanomad . then what ??
[18:30] <mattgyver[L]> When installing ubuntu, is it possible to put the swap partition before ubuntu's partition, or must it always follow?
[18:30] <nanomad> yusuf14, did dekstop effect start?
[18:30] <bullgard4> ghindo: An alternative is using Nautilus.
[18:30] <rdw200169> mattgyver[L], it doesn't matter.  if you do the partitioning manually, you can have it anyway you want
[18:30] <hawk> mattgyver[L]: I don't think the order actually matters...
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  you can put it anywhere. you could put it on a nother hard drive ifyou wanted
[18:30] <skippy_> aspidites: yes, didnt find it there.. the strange thing is I tried apt-get remove vmware-workstation and that worked, but i cant start it with just the "vmware-workstation"
[18:30] <mattgyver[L]> Thank you
[18:30] <ghindo> bullgard4: I'm trying to do it over an ssh session
[18:30] <yowshi> why is not the root user allowed to log into the gui
[18:30] <rdw200169> mattgyver[L], you can even have several swaps across several hard drives
[18:31] <yusuf14> nanomad . no it's not
[18:31] <Dunge> I want to display in a markup label any text an user can write, so I used g_markup_escape_text() to be sure it don't mess with markup formating. It works great for a-z chars, but if I send in a special char like "À" it crash. Displaying À in the label without markup escaping works fine. Tried to find solution in Google, but all I can find is bug reports.. anyone have a better solution?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  or no swap at all. :)
[18:31] <nanomad> yowshi, because there is no root user in ubuntu ;)
[18:31] <rdw200169> mattgyver[L], but the swap partition should never be used, you *should* have enough ram that you never need it ;)
[18:31] <calrik> thiagoss: system > administration > software sources > authentication > import key file...
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> 'direct logging in as root is disabled' theres still a 'root' account.
[18:31] <yowshi> nanomad: there is a root password though
[18:31] <thiagoss> calrik: thanks!
[18:31] <nanomad> yowshi, no
[18:31] <nanomad> yowshi, sudo asks for the user password (not root one)
[18:32] <aspidites> skippy_: yeah. i'm sure they name their executable differently. give me just a sec
[18:32] <rdw200169> yowshi, even if you enabled root, you can't log into X with root
[18:32] <mattgyver[L]> how do you determine how large your swap partition should be?  In the even that you want, or need it.
[18:32] <nanomad> yusuf14, paste the output of compiz --replace into a pastebin
[18:32] <yusuf14> nanomad , ok
[18:32] <parapanghelescu> hi there ......I have a problem ///// I try to install Ubuntu on a Second drive ....hdb ..this second drive is also de boot drive, having winxp on it...where I should install de bootloader ? grub ?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  i always make one about 512mb in size.. just in case. :) i rarely use it on my 2gb ram systems.
[18:32] <rdw200169> yowshi, the security problems that come with logging into the gui with root are waay to bad
[18:32] <mattgyver[L]> ok
[18:32] <gartral> does anyone know anything about vegastrike?
[18:32] <yowshi> rdw200169: yeah but it also hidners experienced users from using the gui to wsolve problems
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  put grub on  the first hd if you want to use it. or if you put it on the 2nd hd.. you may have to use the bios menus/features to tell the pc to boot that 2ndhard drive
[18:33] <zealiod> how do i allow www-data user to access programs in the /etc/bin
[18:33] <nanomad> parapanghelescu, on the boot sector of the boot drive
[18:33] <rdw200169> yowshi, an experienced user would *never* do that ;)
[18:33] <yowshi> rdw200169: i had to run the users-admin command from a super user terminal
[18:33] <aspidites> skippy_: see if the command you need is here : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-search.en.html
[18:33] <yusuf14> nanomad , here it is ==> http://pastebin.com/m6da8f3b6
[18:33] <yowshi> rdw200169: ok quasi experienced
[18:33] <Iowahc> hy there, after the todays update, my hsdpa device is no more listed in networkmanager
[18:33] <sacarlson> ﻿zealiod: I thought www-data could run etc/bin already
[18:33] <nanomad> yusuf14, your video card is not supported in compiz
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> zealiod:  clarify to the channel what you are trying to acomplish. there is no /etc/bin     and why would tha tuser need to access any binary?
[18:34] <nanomad> yusuf14, so no dekstop effects
[18:34] <Iowahc> It also doesn't realizes the external monitor connected to my notebook
[18:34] <sacarlson> ﻿zealiod:  opps I'm wrong  /usr/bin
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> zealiod:  unless theres some other confusion going on..  :)
[18:34] <rdw200169> Iowahc, the monitor issue is *not* related to NetworkManager
[18:34] <yusuf14> :-( , ok , so you mean i've to remove ubuntu from my pc ??
[18:34] <Dunge> I want to display in a markup label any text an user can write, so I used g_markup_escape_text() to be sure it don't mess with markup formating. It works great for a-z chars, but if I send in a special char like "À" it crash. Displaying À in the label without markup escaping works fine. Tried to find solution in Google, but all I can find is bug reports.. anyone have a better solution?
[18:34] <sacarlson> ﻿zealiod: I didn't know there was any bin files in /etc/bin
[18:34] <nanomad> yusuf14, why? You can use ubuntu without effects ?_?
[18:34] <joeyy> lol
[18:35] <zzmudd> hahah
[18:35] <joeyy> What is the purpose of this channel
[18:35] <parapanghelescu> Dr_willis; nanomad > I want to use on the second drive ...that's the drive set in BIOS as the boot drive ....so I should check install grub on hd1 NO ? because hd1 is second HDD and hd0 is the first HDD ...correct ???
[18:35] <joeyy> What is the purpose of this channel
[18:35] <aspidites> skippy_: found it. the command you need is "dpkg -L <package name>"
[18:35] <Pici> Dunge: I'm not sure that Ubuntu is a good channel to ask that question in.  Perhaps a programming language channel would be more appropriate.
[18:35] <Pici> !support | joeyy
[18:35] <zzmudd> joey jy ook gejoin :D
[18:35] <joeyy> ja
[18:35] <zzmudd> ahahaha
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> I got no /etc/bin here. :)
[18:35] <zealiod> I am wanting to allow www-data to do arp calls.... i am currently doing this using sudoers... but would like a better way... perhaps with groups?
[18:35] <joeyy> hallo zzmud
[18:35] <nanomad> parapanghelescu, on hd1 boot sector, if that is the boot drive
[18:35] <joeyy> ik ben er ook
[18:35] <yusuf14> nanomad , i know but this pc for my little brothers (:
[18:35] <joeyy> maar de nickname joey was al bezet
[18:35] <zloog> a couple of times each hour my applications lag out. I think it has something to do with hard drive requests taking a long time (45 sec or so). Is there a log file I can look at to try and find the problem?
[18:35] <FloodBot1> joeyy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <zzmudd> allo
[18:35] <Dunge> kk
[18:35] <zzmudd> je selfde hier
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  some bio;s may reorder them.. some dont..  try it and  see  i guess..
[18:35] <yusuf14> so they wanna play some games and more things ,
[18:35] <joeyy> Het is hier best wel grappig vind je niet
[18:36] <Pici> !nl | zzmudd joeyy
[18:36] <sacarlson> ﻿zealiod: oh wel arping is in probly in /usr/sbin
[18:36] <clarezoe> nanomad, it works!! Thanks! But still one thing that it isn't disabled on startup I have to remove the mouse and plug it in again then it is disabled. Anyway, it's OK for me!
[18:36] <joeyy> Ubottu
[18:36] <m0RrE> Is it possible to change the passphrase for my /home encryption?
[18:36] <joeyy> hij is afrikaans
[18:36] <nanomad> yusuf14, little brother -> little/no video card -> No compiz -> Faster pc -> Less headahces
[18:36] <yusuf14> nanomad . is Xubuntu good for this ??
[18:36] <nanomad> clearscreen, your are welcome
[18:36] <skippy_> aspidites: ah.. yes i can see where its installed now, thanks :)
[18:36] <sacarlson> ﻿zealiod: so you would have to setup sudo to handle that
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  if the 2nd drive is set to boot.. then it should be showing up as the first hard drive   is how ive seen it happen.
[18:36] <icarus-c> m0RrE: man cryptsetup
[18:36] <aspidites> clarezoe: are usb modules loading correctly at boot?
[18:36] <rdw200169> parapanghelescu, that seriously depends on your BIOS and what its reporting to grub... if that has *always* been your boot drive, chances are, its hd0... if you use grub-install, you can specify the /dev/sd* nomenclature instead, which is a little more reliable than the vagueness of grub hd0, hd1 naming from the device map...
[18:36] <Pici> joeyy: This is a support channel, not a discussion channel.
[18:36] <nanomad> yusuf14, i think so
[18:36] <m0RrE> icarus-c: aight!
[18:36] <yusuf14> is the compiz works ??
[18:36] <icarus-c> m0RrE: look at  luksAddKey/luksRemoveKey
[18:36] <aspidites> skippy_: yw.
[18:36] <clarezoe> aspidites, how to check that?
[18:36] <BLTnoTomato> what is an easy svn tool to use. I only will be using it for accessing the latest dev for testing purposes
[18:37] <nanomad> yusuf14, forget about compiz with that video card
[18:37] <tj83> has anyone had problems with jaunty corrupting ext3 partitions randomly?
[18:37] <zzmudd> thanks pici :D
[18:37] <tonytraductor> listen, I still can't figure out how to log out of fluxbox here
[18:37] <m0RrE> icarus-c: No manual entry for cryptsetup
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> !dontzap
[18:37] <jonaskoelker> !svideo
[18:37] <nanomad> tj83, not me. What do you mean with "corrupt"?
[18:37] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I have a question
[18:37] <aspidites> clarezoe: the next time you boot before removign the mouse and unplugging it again, run this in terminal: "lsmod | grep usb" should at least return usbcore
[18:37] <jonaskoelker> How does S-video work in Ubuntu?
[18:37] <asd1> hello! I can't get to ubuntu's log in screen. Boot is going fine. It seems like a graphical problem. here's my xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/m4536fd41 and here's menu.lst and xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/m68a66467 . If anyone could help me I'd appreciate that hugely! Thanks
[18:37] <yusuf14> nanomad , ok thank you
[18:38] <zealiod> sacarlson: the thing is visudoers requires root interaction to set up and I'm really looking to just do this using a shell script
[18:38] <nanomad> yusuf14, you are welcome
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> jonaskoelker:  depends on the video card/driver..works very well for me.
[18:38] <yusuf14> goodbye ...
[18:38] <Dracofodder> how do Iget past this?  need to install epson scanner driver iscan 2.19, on ubuntu 9.04, using the deb package, double click to install, I get a dependancy error of libltdl3 not greater than 1.5.2-2, yet if I "apt-cache showpkg libltdl3" it appears to return a list appears to say version is 1.5.24-1 or maybe 1.5.4-1, not sure about this results page.
[18:38] <yowshi> anyway i have cheese seeing through the camera but it wont record
[18:38] <xcitu> Hi, I need help with internet connection on newcly installed Ubuntu 9.04
[18:38] <jonaskoelker> Dr_Willis: firegl v3200 card, ati driver
[18:38] <clarezoe> aspidites, sure, if it is not loaded correctly, how can I fix it?
[18:38] <parapanghelescu> HMMMM   ...... it's a little bit confusing and I hoped to get a clear answer here .....but ...again ......Linux is reporting the drives similar with Windows, starting with 0 then 1 then 2 ???
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> !tvout | jonaskoelker
[18:39] <aspidites> Dracofodder: try installing with dpkg -i package.deb
[18:39] <jonaskoelker> asd1: try mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/xorg/xorg.conf-moved-aside and reboot
[18:39] <bullgard4> Why is there no 'man watchdog'? My Ubuntu 8.10 shows a process which has been issued by the 'watchdog/0' command.
[18:39] <tj83> nanomad, thans for your response, OK, i run jaunty on a desktop machine just fine, i run jaunty on my laptop just fine I use in dual boot with xp, But after a couple weeks of youse the ext3 partition that jaunty resides in goes to cram, get I/O errors and the system becomes un bootable, 8.04 did not do this, and i have tested the drive to exhaustion, i dont get why this happening, and also mind you that the XP partition is just fine
[18:39] <nanomad> Dracofodder, try this. sudo dpkg --force-all -i *package*
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  'grub' enumerates drives starting at 0.
[18:39] <ghabit> Hello. I have no sound in firefox while playing flash.
[18:39] <ghabit> Advise me please.
[18:39] <jonaskoelker> asd1: as root; if that fails, move xorg.conf-moved-aside back to xorg.conf (in /etc/X11)
[18:39] <aminh> hey guys how do i add a user to the sudoers group? currently when i do 'id webadmin' i get this: ''uid=1001(webadmin) gid=1001 groups=1001,4(adm)'' but apparently the user webadmin still can't sudo
[18:39] <aspidites> clarezoe: on ubuntu, i don't know. on my distro, there is a /etc/rc.config file that shows all modules loaded on boot.
[18:40] <Pici> aminh: The user needs to be in the admin group
[18:40] <nanomad> tj83, I/O errors look like an hardware fault
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  first hard drive = hd0, first partition on first hd =  hd0,0 in grub terms
[18:40] <SimonTek> hi
[18:40] <aspidites> clarezoe: hate to say it, but you'd have to ask someone else or do a google search. sorry i'm not more help
[18:40] <nanomad> tj83, ext3 is very stable indeed
[18:40] <pep> hi
[18:40] <tj83> nanomad, i would agree entirely if it wasnt that 8.04 doesnt do it, and xp doesnt do it and the drive passes all testing
[18:40] <aminh> Pici: but isn't webadmin already in admin group?
[18:40] <ubuntistas> can anyone help how to install tar gz files?
[18:40] <xcitu> Hi. Need help with internet on newly installed Ubuntu. Anyone?
[18:40] <xcitu> Hi. Need help with internet on newly installed Ubuntu. Anyone?
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> !source | ubuntistas
[18:40] <Pici> aminh: I see the 'adm' group, but not 'admin'
[18:40] <aspidites> !ask
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> !compile | ubuntistas
[18:41] <aspidites> that was to you xcitu
[18:41] <icarus-c> ubuntistas: extract it
[18:41] <SimonTek> tj83, random thought have you tried resetting the drive with the manufactures disc's?
[18:41] <michael_> hey guys, i have a crazy problem.  i just installed windows, then ubuntu using live cd.. after ubuntu install my computer cannot recognize my hard disks.
[18:41] <clarezoe> aspidites, sure, I will search around, thanks@
[18:41] <darcknight> i have come here as the last resort... i installed ubuntu 8.04 a few days back. i had 7 partitions. but suddenly outta the blue i decided to shrink 4 partitons into one those being /home /junk /av and /pix... now ubuntu wont cross the fschk
[18:41] <parapanghelescu> dr_willis > so this means ...if my bios is seeing the boot drive as being the second drive ...meaning hd1 ...and on hd1 I also have Win installed .....grub must be installed here in order to give me the posibility to choose between OS's NO ?
[18:41] <michael_> is there anything i can do on the live cd to help recognize them again
[18:41] <ubuntistas> icarus-c then?
[18:41] <nanomad> tj83, well, i've never heard of that. Maybe a faulty chipset kernel module? You should open a bug indeed
[18:41] <icarus-c> ubuntistas: does it come with a configure script
[18:41] <michael_> i can only boot to cd.. and when i try to install ubuntu using the live cd no hard drive partitions are found
[18:42] <aminh> Pici: ok how would i add the user to the admin group?
[18:42] <pep> Is it possible that my mobile intel graphics card is no longer supported natively with jaunty?
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  ive seen some machinew where if i boot the  4th hard drive.. that drive became 'sda' (ie the first hard drive) ive seen other machines that if i boot the 4th hard drive..it does NOT become sda. SO.. it depends.
[18:42] <xcitu> !ask Got problem with internet connection. I get "Connection enabled" message with network through router, but can't use any programs that require internet. Tried to ping, no luck. Can't even open Google.com.
[18:42] <thiagoss> calrik: quick question, do I still need to add keys even if the repository is a copy of the original jaunty repositories? The key refers to the server or to the packages?
[18:42] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: you can go to the terminal and cd to that folder and run ./configure
[18:42] <tj83> nomad also mind you that the first time this happen i suspected the drive, so i moved the partition to different physical area and the previous area now holds xp and xp is fine and the new location corrupted , i have used hitiachi diagnostics, windows to test, esfsck all good.
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  i got around it by just installing grub on ALL the hard drives. :)
[18:42] <aspidites> !passwd
[18:42] <aspidites> aminh: try man passwd
[18:43] <icarus-c> ubuntistas: basically,  ./configure  && make && make install    is the most common install method
[18:43] <nanomad> tj83, then open a bug
[18:43] <parapanghelescu> dr_willis > damn man :)) OK ..what if the win doesnt start anymore ....what should I do ? how can I overcome this ?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  then you fix it.. :)
[18:43] <defrysk> sudo make install
[18:43] <calrik> thiagoos: the server
[18:43] <Bor> Hi Alle
[18:43] <nanomad> icarus-c, i would use checkinstall instead of make install
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  grub can easially boot windows most of the time/.
[18:43] <ubuntistas> i wanna install gnomad2-2.9.4 can anyone tell me the steps i don't get it
[18:43] <ubuntistas> ?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  grub is one of those tools that it pays to learn very well.
[18:43] <jawall> stupid question, but.. wireless works in gnome, but nothing shows up in the sys tray in kde to connect through wireless...
[18:44] <a4ck> wodim: Cannot load media with this drive!
[18:44] <a4ck> wodim: Try to load media by hand.
[18:44] <a4ck> wodim: Cannot load media.
[18:44] <parapanghelescu> dr_willis > that's my question > HOW  to fix-it ? what commands should I use ???
[18:44] <icarus-c> nanomad: good idea
[18:44] <jawall> how to I connect wirelessly in KDe and put the notification int eh sys tray
[18:44] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: extract the folder on your desktop
[18:44] <aspidites> ubuntistas: i'd make sure to keep the src directory around to make uninstalling easier. if you want to uninstall the compiled package, just "sudo make uninstall" from the src directory
[18:44] <Pici> aminh: useradd -G admin theusername
[18:44] <nanomad> ubuntistas, are you sure gnomad supports the zen v? AFAIK it only supports the Creative Jukebox
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  depends on what you want.. windowws has its own tools to restore the MBR boot loader.. or you use the proper grub entrys to boot the windows machine
[18:44] <ubuntistas> iam sure
[18:44] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: then using terminal cd to that folder on your desktop
[18:44] <pep> I have a Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller on my Thinkpad R61, it worked fine with the previous releases, but with Jaunty I can't enable desktop effects anymore although direct rendering is activated and glxgears runs smoothly at 770+fps... how come?
[18:44] <ubuntistas> how to cd pronoy?
[18:45] <Dracofodder> nanomad: , is the apt-cache listing valid?  I'd hate to force dependancy to find out I don't even have the dang dependacy installed.
[18:45] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: you write cd Desktop on the terminal
[18:45] <parapanghelescu> well, on win, I can start with the live CD and them give the fixmbr command ....but then I'll loose the Ubuntu installation
[18:45] <aminh> Pici: k so i will do 'useradd -G admin webadmin' but webadmin is already an existing user is that fine?
[18:45] <yaaar> any backuppc gurus round here? i've got a host that "says" it's backing up, but there's no traffic moving...
[18:45] <Pici> aminh: yep, thats fine
[18:45] <nanomad> Dracofodder, yes
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  then you boot live cd and restore grub to wheveer you want.
[18:45] <parapanghelescu> my question is if there are any commands to do it less painfull :d
[18:45] <Dracofodder> nanomad: here is what I get:
[18:45] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: then "ls" look for the folder name and write "cd <foldername>
[18:45] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: without the quotes
[18:46] <nanomad> Dracofodder, actually, no. Just install the dependecy manually first
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> parapanghelescu:  you want to use GRUB to boot both windows and linux? or want to use the bios to boot one OS or the other from the hard drive?
[18:46] <tonytraductor> here's another headache...I installed KDE, but it doesn't appear in my session options in the login screen
[18:46] <ubuntistas> come on pronoy i don't get it
[18:46] <aminh> Pici: do i need to restart the server for the changes to take place?
[18:46] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: ok once more.....listen carefully
[18:46] <parapanghelescu> yeap > using groob to boot win and linux .....to choose from each one ...at the boot sequence
[18:46] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: open the tar.gz file and extract the file to your desktop ....do that first
[18:47] <Pici> aminh: You'll need to relogin as that user, and/or restart the processes that the user is running for the change to take effect.
[18:47] <BaronM> Hi all. Someone there who was able to install VMware 1.0.9 on Jaunty?
[18:47] <aspidites> tonytraductor: you could always try using kdm instead of gdm
[18:47] <tj83> !grub | parapanghelescu,
[18:47] <ubuntistas> i extracted the whole folder then pronoy
[18:47] <aminh> Pici: when i do adduser doesn't it ask me for a passowrd....since this is an existing user will it ask me to reset the password?
[18:47] <Dracofodder> nanomad: how to find it?  the apt-cahe command showed this http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m18767bce
[18:47] <parapanghelescu> tj83 > cool man
[18:48] <Pici> aminh: It shouldn;t.
[18:48] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: good...open the terminal
[18:48] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: type         cd Desktop
[18:48] <aspidites> tonytraductor: or maybe gdm needs to be restarted before it'll recognize the kde session. also make sure kde is actually in the sessions folder
[18:48] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: done ?
[18:48] <ubuntistas> ok pronoy then?
[18:48] <mattgyver[L]> Dr_Willis, should a swap be a logical, or primary partition?
[18:49] <aspidites> mattgyver[L]: primary
[18:49] <nanomad> Dracofodder, install libltdl7 and then try again to install the driver
[18:49] <gartral> how do i mount an ext2 fs (on a flash disk) into my home dir without using mount?
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  dosent matter
[18:49] <mattgyver[L]> thank you.
[18:49] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: now type      ls    this will give you a whole list.....and look for the folder name.....that you extracted
[18:49] <Dracofodder> nanomad: thanks!
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  i always use primaries if i can
[18:49] <nanomad> Dracofodder, care to post a link to that driver?
[18:49] <aspidites> gartral: change your fstab?
[18:49] <xcitu> !ask Got problem with internet connection. I get "Connection enabled" message with network through router, but can't use any programs that require internet. Tried to ping, no luck. Can't even open Google.com.
[18:49] <nanomad> Dracofodder, i want to check the .deb package
[18:49] <mattgyver[L]> Dr_Willis, Thats what im use to using, i dont really know what logical is for ';\
[18:49] <ubuntistas> yup i see it
[18:49] <BlueAidan_work> does the standard install cd support encrypted home dir / swap or is that on the alternate install disk?
[18:49] <ubuntistas> pronoy
[18:49] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: now issue this command : cd  followed by the folder name
[18:49] <gartral> aspidites: right... what do i add, and where?
[18:50] <Dracofodder> sure  found it here..  http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL2.do
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  ifyou want more then 4 parittions on a hard drive you must use logicals
[18:50] <raven_>  i'm trying to muxx a video and a ac3 audio file with FFMPEG ... -> at least one output file..... - what am i doing wrong? tnx...
[18:50] <aspidites> !fstab
[18:50] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: done ?
[18:50] <nanomad> BlueAidan_work, alternate if i recall correctly
[18:50] <aspidites> !fstab | gartral
[18:50] <mattgyver[L]> ok, thanks :)
[18:50] <admin_masu3701> how to i make stuff that i download go to /download in ubuntu?
[18:50] <Dracofodder> nanomad: was loooking for the Epson NX400 all in one, so I could get the scanner to work... printer works fine.
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  its to overcome old limittions in hard drive tech over the years. :)
[18:50] <tj83> mattgyver[L], 4 primary per drive, logical gives you the ablility to have extended partitions  like Dr_Willis says
[18:50] <nanomad> Dracofodder, where did you got that driver?
[18:50] <aspidites> xcitu: what does ifconfig yield?
[18:50] <ubuntistas> yes pronoy
[18:51] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: so now you are in that folder ...ok ?
[18:51] <xcitu> I will check.
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:   i find life is MUCH easier if just stick to 4 primaries  tops.
[18:51] <pronoy_> ubuntistas: you can now issue this command : ./configure
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> mattgyver[L]:  plus i rarely need more then 4 parittions
[18:51] <aspidites> xcitu: if it's wireless, also check the output of iwconfig
[18:51] <Dracofodder> nanomad: http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL2.do
[18:51] <nanomad> pronoy_, you should enable libmpt and other things in that configure AFAIK
[18:51] <Kae> hi
[18:51]  * tj83 agrees with Dr_Willis  unless you milti-boot as i do, Vista, XP, Fedora, Ubuntu, and storage area lol
[18:51] <yowshi> hmmm cheese crashed and now apparebntly nothing else can use /dev/video0
[18:51] <aspidites> xcitu: more than likely though if you can connect to the router but not internet, you should double check your router settings
[18:51] <pronoy> nanomad: if there is a dependency issue it will show by not compiling
[18:52] <nanomad> pronoy, not with libmtp since it is optional
[18:52] <aspidites> sorry to leave you all hanging, but i gotta go
[18:52] <pronoy> nanomad: not sure i get you
[18:52] <ubuntistas> pronoy it's saying me errors 2 packages not found gtk 2 and libnjib
[18:52] <jonaskoelker> Dracofodder: thanks for the link; the source fails to build
[18:52] <jonaskoelker> Dracofodder: oops, wrong nick
[18:52] <jonaskoelker> Dr_Willis: thanks for the link; the source fails to build
[18:53] <jonaskoelker> Dracofodder: but a nice evening to you anyways :)
[18:53] <nanomad> pronoy, libmtp is an optional component of gnomad2 (it will work event if not installed), but if it is not found, the zen v wont work
[18:53] <admin_masu3701> how to i make stuff that i download go to /download in ubuntu?
[18:53] <jonaskoelker> Dr_Willis: is !tvout what you're doing yourself
[18:53] <Kae> I'll soon find out
[18:53] <tj83> jonaskoelker, i dont know your issue, but i assume you installed build-essential
[18:53] <pronoy> ubuntistas: ok so now this thing is dependent on gtk2 and libnjib ok ? therefore you need to install these two first......so you can that by searching for that package on the net or using apt-get
[18:53] <nanomad> Dracofodder, doesent xsane see  your scanner (I'm trying to decipher that page now)
[18:53] <zloog> Is there a way I can map control + L:eft Arrow key to the Home key?
[18:54] <pronoy> nanomad: isn't there a debian package for this ?
[18:54] <ubuntistas> so pronoy tell me the commands
[18:54] <jawall> how do you wireless connect to a network through KDE?
[18:54] <jawall> works automatically in gnome
[18:54] <jonaskoelker> tj83: yeah, the code seems to have an undefined type pciVideoPtr
[18:54] <jawall> kde doesn't even have anythign in the systray for it
[18:54] <nanomad> pronoy, ubuntu has an older version
[18:54] <aminh> Pici: i did this:  sudo useradd -G admin webadmin, and it says user webadmin exists
[18:54] <pronoy> ubuntistas: ok what is the package name that was not found ?
[18:54] <xcitu> Got problem with internet connection. I get "Connection enabled" message with network through router, but can't use any programs that require internet. Tried to ping, no luck. Can't even open Google.com.
[18:54] <raven_>  i'm trying to muxx a video and a ac3 audio file with FFMPEG ... -> at least one output file..... - what is wrong? tnx
[18:54] <tonytraductor> I'm getting extremely frustrated
[18:55] <nanomad> ubuntistas, sorry to sound boring, but how do you know that gnomad2 works with the zen V?
[18:55] <pronoy> nanomad: what's it called .....and then why not install that ?
[18:55] <mweichert> when I have a samba share with "guest only = yes", I cannot connect to it from a Windows computer that is joined to a domain... any other client is fine
[18:55] <tonytraductor> I think I'm going to reinstall, wipe the /home partition, and then restore my files from backup, maybe that will work
[18:55] <nanomad> pronoy, gnomad2, but he says it does not work
[18:55] <jonaskoelker> bleh
[18:55] <pronoy> nanomad: is this thing in the repo
[18:55] <jonaskoelker> How do I make tvout (s-video) work on a firegl v3200?
[18:55] <nanomad> pronoy, of course
[18:55] <ubuntistas> nanomad because it worked dude and now it's not working
[18:55] <nanomad> ubuntistas, try running sudo gnomad2 then
[18:55] <xcitu> Got problem with internet connection. I get "Connection enabled" message with network through router, but can't use any programs that require internet. Tried to ping, no luck. Can't even open Google.com.
[18:56] <tonytraductor> I don't undeerstand why KDE was not automagically added to session, fluxbox was
[18:56] <Dracofodder> nanomad: no it doesn't, thats what brought me down the road looking for drivers.
[18:56] <nanomad> tonytraductor, you need to add kde to gdm?
[18:56] <pronoy> ubuntistas: ok you know go to terminal and issue this command sudo apt-get install gnomad2
[18:56] <Johnny_B_Good> is there another screen capture tool for ubuntu than recordmydesktop????
[18:56] <nanomad> Dracofodder, so good luck ;)
[18:56] <tj83> jonaskoelker, is this a video deriver issue?
[18:56] <Johnny_B_Good> a better one?
[18:56] <BaronM> VMWare install on Jaunty is resulting in modules compiling error. any-any-update-115 implemented but doesn't help. Any ideas? (instead of bothering the vmware team :o) )
[18:56] <xcitu> Hi. Got internet issues. "Connection enabled", but can't surf the internet. Anyone?
[18:56] <tonytraductor> why?
[18:56] <jonaskoelker> tj83: I don't know.  How do I tell?
[18:56] <tonytraductor> AND HOW?
[18:56] <nanomad> tonytraductor, ok
[18:56] <tonytraductor> sorry, didn't mean to yell
[18:57] <jonaskoelker> tj83: I'm running the "ati" driver, which seems to select radeon; there's a lot of RADEON(0) in my xorg.0.log
[18:57] <tj83> jonaskoelker, i meant is what your attempting to do is resolve a video driver issue? i missed your initial problem
[18:57] <nanomad> tonytraductor, gimme a se
[18:57] <nanomad> *second
[18:57] <KnoppixNoob> kann mir mal eben jemand sagen was ich mit dem Script(?) von http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7372047 in Knoppix mache um es auszuführen (nachdem ich es angepasst habe)?
[18:57] <jonaskoelker> tj83: play movies on my tv
[18:57] <pkkm>  is there anything for asking simple questions (yes/no) in text mode?
[18:57] <nanomad> tonytraductor, what does ls /usr/share/xsessions/ say?
[18:57] <jonaskoelker> tj83: I plug the s-video cable in, nothing works.  I reboot, nothing works.  xrandr says it's disconnected
[18:57] <xcitu> Hi. Got internet issues. "Connection enabled", but can't surf the internet. Anyone?
[18:58] <xcitu> Hi. Got internet issues. "Connection enabled", but can't surf the internet. Anyone?
[18:58] <jonaskoelker> tj83: it is TEH EPIC FAIL :)
[18:58] <Dracofodder> nanomad: ugh, thanks!   ha, actually, on searching to install that libltd7... I search using all available applicatinos, and there doesn't come up with a match, do I have to pull that from some independat site as well as this driver package?
[18:58] <pronoy> ubuntistas: you there ?
[18:58] <tj83> jonaskoelker, well one thing that is important to know first is what version of ubuntu?
[18:58] <Johnny_B_Good> is there another screen capture tool for ubuntu than recordmydesktop???? a better one?
[18:58] <jonaskoelker> tj83: jaunty
[18:58] <stalker314314> where should I put command "xset -r 94", so that it is defined in my account (can it somehow go to ~/.xmodmap)?
[18:58] <KB1JWQ> KnoppixNoob: Please speak English in here.
[18:58] <nanomad> Dracofodder, just type sudo aptitude install libt*whatevers*
[18:58] <jonaskoelker> tj83: ... is there an #ubuntu-1?
[18:58] <tonytraductor> no such file or dir (/usr/share/sessions)
[18:58] <Dracofodder> really, cool, I can avoid the gui installer.. nice.
[18:58] <nanomad> tonytraductor, what does ls /usr/share/xsessions/ say?
[18:58] <KB1JWQ> !de | KnoppixNoob
[18:58] <Dracofodder> nanomad: thanks
[18:58] <nanomad> tonsofpcs, you forgot an x
[18:58] <RainCT> Hi
[18:58] <ubuntistas> pronoy it's saying me it's the latest version i waana install these files as i said  libnjb'   'gtk+-2.0'
[18:59] <edsoncanto> Hi!!!
[18:59] <nanomad> tonytraductor, you forgot an x, it is xsessions
[18:59] <edsoncanto> (:
[18:59] <tonytraductor> oops... fluxbox.desktop gnome.desktop ssh.desktop
[18:59] <RainCT> Is there some GUI tool to automatically mount a partition?
[18:59] <tonytraductor> no kde
[18:59] <xcitu> Hi. Got internet issues. "Connection enabled", but can't surf the internet. Anyone?
[18:59] <nanomad> tonytraductor, what package did you install to get kde
[18:59] <tonytraductor> kdebase
[18:59] <nanomad> tonytraductor, ?
[18:59] <bullgard4> Why is there no 'man watchdog'? My Ubuntu 8.10 shows a process which has been issued by the 'watchdog/0' command. 'man watchdog' does not exist.
[18:59] <tj83> jonaskoelker, /join #seaphor
[18:59] <KnoppixNoob> lol
[18:59] <KnoppixNoob> sorry
[18:59] <RainCT> Someone is asking for it and I'm not comfortable with telling him to edit /etc/fstab
[18:59] <Johnny_B_Good> is there another screen capture tool for ubuntu than recordmydesktop???? a better one?
[18:59] <nanomad> tonytraductor, thats not enough i suppose, gimme a sec
[19:00] <pronoy> ubuntistas: so you are reinstalling gnomad2 when its already to its latest version ? why would you that: anyways...you still wanna continue you go to terminal and type sudo apt-get install libnjb gtk+-2.0
[19:00] <maco> tonytraductor: try installing kubuntu-desktop?
[19:00] <KnoppixNoob> can somebody tell how what I have to do in Knoppix to run that script(?) after I modified it?: http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=7372047
[19:00] <nanomad> tonytraductor, or installing kdebase-workspace
[19:00] <Pici> KnoppixNoob: Try #knoppix
[19:00] <erUSUL> KnoppixNoob: this is not a knopix channel
[19:00] <xcitu> Hi. Got internet issues. "Connection enabled", but can't surf the internet. Anyone?
[19:01] <xcitu> Can anyone help?
[19:01] <KnoppixNoob> its it that much different from Ubuntu? btw. can't install partimage in Ubuntu.
[19:01] <tonytraductor> ok, trying that
[19:01] <Johnny_B_Good> is there another screen capture tool for ubuntu than recordmydesktop???? a better one?
[19:01] <nanomad> tonytraductor, to get a working kde desktop you should install the kde package
[19:01] <ubuntistas> pronoy iwanna install the version that is not in the reporisotories but the stable one from the site of gnomad
[19:01] <Magician> xcitu
[19:01] <MeXTux> I want to remove splash screen during boot. I know it is possible to remove some parameters from /boot/grub/menu.lst. Does anybody know what do I have to do??
[19:01] <Magician> xcitu what internet service are you using
[19:02] <nanomad> ubuntistas, have you tried running gnomad2 with sudo ?
[19:02] <xcitu> I got wired 10 mbit/s from Lyse Tele :P
[19:02] <pronoy> ubuntistas: so issue the command in my previous post
[19:02] <nanomad> MeXTux, sudo gedit /etc/grub/menu.lst
[19:02] <Magician> ok have you ran through your network tools
[19:02] <Magician> made sure auto etho is connected
[19:03] <nanomad> MeXTux, remove splash from the defoptions= line
[19:03] <SimonTek> your better of to just ## out what you want in grub, incase of a mistake.
[19:03] <SimonTek> also make copies
[19:03] <xcitu> I have checked them, but haven't done anything else than try to ping. Auto etho is On. I get a internet symbol, 2 PC screens.
[19:03] <Magician> and go into firefox edit/pref and network and choose auto detect proxy settings
[19:03] <nanomad> MeXTux, then run sudo update-grub
[19:03] <ubuntistas> i cannot sudo apt-get install these packages pronoy it's teling me no packages found
[19:03] <xcitu> Running internet from point in wall -- router -- PC. Point in wall -- PC doesn't work.
[19:03] <xpecs> hi :)
[19:04] <xcitu> Ok, will try
[19:04] <nanomad> ubuntistas, have you tried running gnomad2 as root with sudo?
[19:04] <Magician> xcitu: can you remove the router and plug directly to pc
[19:04] <Voxis> Hello
[19:04] <Voxis> can anyone help me please?
[19:04] <nanomad> Voxis, here we are
[19:04] <pronoy> ubuntistas: ok go to system adminstration software list
[19:04] <Magician> whats up Voxis
[19:05] <Voxis> can you please tell me how I can install ubuntu when it gives me an i/o error when I try to boot from disk
[19:05] <nanomad> pronoy, you can use sudo apt-get build-dep gnomad2 (its quick as hell)
[19:05] <Johnny_B_Good> is there another screen capture tool for ubuntu than recordmydesktop???? a better one?
[19:05] <nanomad> Voxis, cdrom?
[19:05] <Voxis> yes
[19:05] <nanomad> Johnny_B_Good, whats wrong with recordmydekstop
[19:05] <tonytraductor> frac...everytime I try to log into gnome (and now kde) it says $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored, should have 644 permissions, but I've chmoded it about 4 times now
[19:05] <ubuntistas> u mean software sources pronoy?
[19:05] <tonytraductor> oh, kdeabase-workspace did add kde to my sessions menu, thanks
[19:05] <Magician> voxis: did you download the image and then burn it
[19:06] <xcitu> Magician: I've tried, but it doesn't work. I can plug in, but it will only show that the internet get disconnected, even though I plugged it in.
[19:06] <Voxis> although I have also tried booting from hard disk and it did nothing after saying opening browser
[19:06] <pronoy> nanomad: why didn't i think of that.......thanks but i think it would also help if all his repos are enabled
[19:06] <bc> what does it take to get disk label changes on internal disks to take effect? remounting seems not to do it.
[19:06] <tonytraductor> I can't log into either gnome or kde
[19:06] <Voxis> magician yes I downloaded then burnt
[19:06] <tonytraductor> I can get into fluxbox
[19:06] <tonytraductor> and out, now
[19:06] <pronoy> ubuntistas: yes......and go to third party software and check the repository listings
[19:06] <nanomad> tonytraductor, what happens if you move away your .dmrc?
[19:06] <Magician> xcitu: try burning a cd at a slow speed then try it
[19:07] <tonytraductor> I don't know...let me try that
[19:07] <Voxis> we tried it at the slowest speed possible
[19:07] <nanomad> tonytraductor, also, whats the output for ls -lah ~/.dmrc ?
[19:07] <ubuntistas> i told you nanomad it's not recognizing usb
[19:07] <xcitu> Magican: What do you mean? Burn ubuntu with a slow speed, boot liveCD and try?
[19:07] <dvdnn> hey dudes
[19:07] <ubuntistas> pronoy what's that?
[19:07] <dvdnn> what is up?
[19:07] <Johnny_B_Good> nanomad, well...my cpu...^^everything is slicking while I'm captureing...so I hope to find one which don't need so much cpu
[19:07] <advance> Hey I'm having some trouble configuring XSCREENSAVER can anyone help me out?
[19:07] <nanomad> ubuntistas, also as root? So you have to recompile gnomad2 or better fill a bug-report so other can solve this problem too
[19:08] <nanomad> Johnny_B_Good, try disabling dekstop-effects
[19:08] <pronoy> ubuntistas: go to the software sources....and go to the third party software tab
[19:08] <Johnny_B_Good> :-\
[19:08] <Johnny_B_Good> hmmm...
[19:08] <tonytraductor> for some reason, up-arrow key doesn't seem to work in terminal (either to move in nano, or to return to previous commands, as per usual)
[19:08] <Voxis> will ubuntu load on Windows 98?
[19:08] <ubuntistas> nanomad tell me how to install gtk libnjb files
[19:08] <drkimble> very confusing but why is pidgin showing as a email?
[19:08] <nanomad> ubuntistas, follow pronoy
[19:08] <ubuntistas> then pronoy?
[19:09] <nanomad> Johnny_B_Good, you can try deskscribe
[19:09] <pronoy> ubuntistas: did you check the checkboxes in the 3rd party softwares tab ?
[19:09] <nanomad> drkimble, we know....
[19:09] <nanomad> drkimble, go argue with the devs
[19:09] <drkimble> its a IM not an email client
[19:09] <Voxis> hello?
[19:09] <drkimble> hope they sort that
[19:09] <advance> Hey I'm having some trouble configuring XSCREENSAVER can anyone help me out?
[19:09] <Johnny_B_Good> nanomad, thank you very much....I'll try it right now
[19:09] <nanomad> drkimble, it is part of the new framework
[19:09] <nanomad> Voxis, hardware specs?
[19:09] <pronoy> ubuntistas: got it ?
[19:09] <sacarlson> ﻿Voxis: yes
[19:09] <Magician> not well
[19:09] <ubuntistas> yes pronoy
[19:09] <drkimble> ah, hate those frame work words :)
[19:10] <Voxis> 800MHz Athelon 256MB RAM
[19:10] <nanomad> Voxis, try xubuntu
[19:10] <Magician> it will work
[19:10] <sacarlson> ﻿Voxis: oh maybe not enuf memory
[19:10] <ubuntistas> pronoy what packages can i check?
[19:10] <drkimble> should be Evelution there I believe
[19:10] <raven_>  i'm trying to muxx a video and a ac3 audio file with FFMPEG ... -> at least one output file..... - what is wrong? tnx
[19:10] <drkimble> -e+o
[19:10] <nanomad> drkimble, well IM are still messages ;)
[19:10] <Voxis> Magician - you say it will work - but it's not working
[19:10] <pronoy> ubuntistas: this is not a package list.....its merely the place from where the package list will be taken from
[19:11] <drkimble> you know what I mean, I hope :)
[19:11] <Voxis> it doesn't run inside windows 98 when trying to install
[19:11] <sacarlson> ﻿Voxis:  you will at least have to try the alternate cd install
[19:11] <pronoy> ubuntistas: now close this window and run sudo apt-get install update in the terminal
[19:11] <pkkm> how to read inserted cd name?
[19:11] <pkkm> in text mode
[19:11] <tonytraductor> well, I no longer have a .dmrc in there (mv-ed it to .dmrc-old)
[19:11] <ubuntistas> so what can i ckeck
[19:11] <pronoy> ubuntistas: i am guessing you have 2 checkboxes there ??
[19:11] <sacarlson> ﻿Voxis: oh I'm not sure about that new thing that runs in windows,  anyone know?
[19:11] <drkimble> if its there whats the point, if its to the far right?
[19:11] <michael_> anyone knowledgeable with hard drives and bios?  i installed ubuntu and now my hard drives are not recognized by anything
[19:12] <ubuntistas> tell me
[19:12] <KnoppixNoob> does that script look like it could work?: http://www.nopaste.org/p/amevyMe5fb
[19:12] <ubuntistas> pronoy
[19:12] <KB1JWQ> michael_: Are they showing up in BIOS?
[19:12] <tonytraductor> but the permissions are rw,r,r 1 502 502 29 (date/time) .dmrc-old
[19:12] <drkimble> bit of an ivasion
[19:12] <drkimble> +n
[19:12] <victorh> my usb printer is not recognized by the hplip driver (i'm using ubuntu server 8.04)... what should i do?
[19:12] <Voxis> when it says about opening browser does that mean it's trying to open internet explorer?
[19:12] <nanomad> drkimble, that place is a placeholder for all those messagin-related apps. Only a few use that now
[19:12] <michael_> KB1JWQ, i actually haven't figured out where to look for them there :(  but on live ubuntu cd, windows cd, or dban cd... none can recognize them
[19:12] <pronoy> ubuntistas: do you follow ?
[19:12] <drkimble> did you see on the news, google and apple being probed lol
[19:12] <KB1JWQ> KnoppixNoob: Looks okay, try it and see.
[19:13] <sacarlson> ﻿Voxis: you could try the bootable alternate cd but with 256meg I'm not sure
[19:13] <ubuntistas> yes pronoy tell me which packages do i have to check
[19:13] <ubuntistas> ?:
[19:13] <aguitel> what is the diference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree ?
[19:13] <ubuntistas> )
[19:13] <michael_> KB1JWQ, its quite a complicated error.. on startup i get a white screen saying they are locked with a password.  the first one i know, then there is a second which i dont know... but still cannot access them
[19:13] <nanomad> aguitel, none?
[19:13] <KB1JWQ> michael_: Then it' time to figure out where BIOS has 'em.
[19:13] <ubuntistas> :)
[19:13] <ubuntistas> :)
[19:13] <pronoy> ubuntistas: both of them .....
[19:13] <drkimble> the pidgin guy works for google
[19:13] <drkimble> or did
[19:13] <Pici> aguitel: adobe-flashplugin comes from the canonical partner repository, the other one from the regular Ubuntu repositories
[19:13] <KB1JWQ> michael_: Is the password a BIOS password, or a boot password?
[19:13] <victorh> error: Unable to connect to dbus session bus.
[19:13] <ubuntistas> which pronoy explain
[19:13] <pronoy> !enter | ubuntistas
[19:14] <j1nn> hi all. may someone help with HDA intel microphone problem?
[19:14] <Voxis> When it says about opening browser what browser is it trying to open?
[19:14] <michael_> KB1JWQ, found it.. "none" is there for primary hard drive
[19:14] <tapspat> Hey guys, I messed up permissions of one directory ! Everything listed under that directory is "?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? alsi5_scripts/validate" This folder has become inaccessible totally ! How can I set the perms back !
[19:14] <KB1JWQ> michael_: Check cables, check jumpers.
[19:14] <Voxis> because it doesn't open anything
[19:14] <drkimble> Sean somthing or other, sold out a few years ago
[19:14] <drkimble> I remember the post
[19:14] <aguitel> Pici, no diference ?
[19:14] <sacarlson> ﻿j1nn: I use hda intel audio card what's up
[19:14] <drkimble> I
[19:14] <Voxis> what if it's not the CD?
[19:14] <KB1JWQ> tapspat: chmod 777 DIRECTORY
[19:14] <pronoy> ubuntistas: what are the sources' names the ones written along the checkboxes ?
[19:14] <drkimble> yes i sEAN NOW WORK FOR gOOGLE
[19:14] <Voxis> is there a way round that?
[19:14] <KB1JWQ> But that looks like filesystem corruption
[19:14] <grawity> tapspat: chmod +rx directory
[19:14] <drkimble> VERY HAPPY FOR YOU MATE
[19:14] <drkimble> oops
[19:14] <Pici> aguitel: No software difference.
[19:14] <drkimble> sry
[19:15] <michael_> KB1JWQ, laptop
[19:15] <Pici> !ot | drkimble
[19:15] <drkimble> sry
[19:15] <Voxis> I don't think it is the CD because if it's reading the first part then how can it be?
[19:15] <KB1JWQ> michael_: Reseat the drive then.  Maybe see if it works in an enclosure.
[19:15] <aguitel> Pici, thanks
[19:15] <j1nn> sacarlson: hey. mic doesn't work. i suppose there's a problem with preferences, but cannot get the right combination.. and guide in the net.
[19:15] <nanomad> Voxis, the laser might be fkd up
[19:15] <Voxis> no the laser is fine
[19:15] <tapspat> grawity : Thanks. It worked ! Why it didnt work with 644 ??
[19:15] <ubuntistas> pronoy tell me dude i don't have time thay are many names there
[19:15] <Voxis> we just installed Win 98 and it did it
[19:15] <Voxis> perfectly
[19:15] <Voxis> it's ubuntu
[19:16] <michael_> KB1JWQ, hmm, how would i see if it works in an enclosure..  i don't know much about the hardware
[19:16] <nanomad> Voxis, then open  a bug report
[19:16] <linuxpoet> Is there an update for the Intel graphics chipset problems?
[19:16] <drkimble> Ubuntu is the best Linux distro you can have
[19:16] <jonaskoelker> how's it--is it safe to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04?
[19:16] <KB1JWQ> michael_: You get to learn now. :)
[19:16] <pronoy> ubuntistas: ok what version of ubuntu are you using ???
[19:16] <nanomad> linuxpoet, you can try the ubuntu x swat ppa
[19:16] <drkimble> and Deb Etch is the best server lol
[19:16] <advance> Does anyone here know much about Xscreensaver and SWF files?
[19:16] <KB1JWQ> drkimble: Please keep advocacy out of this channel.
[19:16] <pronoy> ubuntistas: 9.04 or 8.10 ?
[19:16] <grawity> tapspat: Directories need "execute" permission or else you can't go inside them.
[19:16] <ubuntistas> jaunty promoy
[19:16] <popey> Johnny_B_Good: no
[19:16] <ubuntistas> pronoy
[19:16] <drkimble> aww lighten up :)
[19:17] <drkimble> Ubuntu is the most advanced
[19:17] <michael_> KB1JWQ, but it wasn't moved or touched at all during or after install... so makes me think it wouldn't be that... :(
[19:17] <Voxis> where is the tech support?
[19:17] <Johnny_B_Good> popey, ^^kay thank you anyway
[19:17] <Voxis> this is terrible
[19:17] <ubuntistas> pronoy jaunty
[19:17] <tapspat> grawity : Thanks a lot ! Never knew that ! Much appreciated !
[19:17] <KB1JWQ> michael_: If BIOS doesn't see it, it's a hardware issue.
[19:17] <KB1JWQ> End of story.
[19:17] <Voxis> I know it's free but ffs
[19:17] <pronoy> ubuntistas: you'll have these 2 sources having the names  archives......ubuntu jaunty partner and one with says source code
[19:18] <penteki> hello
[19:18] <Radtoo> Voxis: What sort of support do you need? :D
[19:18] <pronoy> ubuntistas: check them
[19:18] <michael_> KB1JWQ, couldnt be from me messing something up while partitioning the drives on instal?
[19:18] <KB1JWQ> michael_: No, the hardware would still detect.
[19:18] <ubuntistas> pronoy i have the alternatives of intrepid i don't have for jaunty
[19:19] <advance> Voxis: Dude whats your problem
[19:19] <penteki> I have now a brand new ubuntu install, but in midnight commander f4 (edit) launches nano instead of mcedit. I've also tried export EDITOR=mcedit -- how to solve this issue?
[19:19] <pronoy> ubuntistas: ok.....did you upgrade your system ?
[19:19] <ubuntistas> yes
[19:19] <ubuntistas> pronoy
[19:19] <ubuntistas> yes sir fast
[19:19] <advance> Voxis: You there?
[19:19] <drkimble> !chat
[19:19] <nanomad> Voxis, you can buy tech support if you want
[19:20] <drkimble> is there Ubuntu chat
[19:20] <Gandhi> Ubuntu 9.04 - I'm tyring to connect to a WEP enabled wireless network using an IEEE 802.11b/g USB adaptor. No joy so far. Any hints?
[19:20] <pronoy> ubuntistas: hang on i'll give you the list names and you can add them.......
[19:20] <Pici> drkimble: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:20] <shadeslayer> !ot | drkimble
[19:20] <drkimble> ty
[19:20] <penteki> (it somehow solved now... :/)
[19:20] <penteki> byey
[19:21] <ubuntistas> come on pronoy
[19:21] <shadeslayer> !wifi | Gandhi
[19:22] <pronoy> can someone plz give me a list of jaunty's source list.......
[19:22] <advance> abcdef_:  why did you finger me
[19:22] <pronoy> can't seem to find it on the net
[19:22] <bullgard4> Why is there no 'man watchdog'? My Ubuntu 8.10 shows a process which has been issued by the 'watchdog/0' command. Where is program descrption of watchdog/0?
[19:22] <pronoy> Pici: plz gimme the jaunty official sources list
[19:23] <shadeslayer> pronoy: what about !sources
[19:23] <jonaskoelker> pronoy: http://rafb.net/p/KNSJSP96.html
[19:23] <ubuntistas> hey help here jaunty's source list
[19:23] <TopBunny88> I ha\ve installed glassfish, how ever upon restarting my xwindos session I didn't find glassfish in the session selector menu. any clues on how tp fix thi issue
[19:23] <shadeslayer> !sources | ubuntistas
[19:23] <Pici> ubuntistas: Use System>Administration>Software Sources to setup your sources.
[19:23] <amdFANBOY> hey, i can't record form my microphone in ubuntu 9.04.  i have a tutorial that says use alsa mixer, but it shouldnt be so hard right?
[19:24] <TopBunny88> !glassfish
[19:24] <shadeslayer> not sure they are of use ;)
[19:24] <shadeslayer> !sound > amdFANBOY
[19:24] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  Does s-video work with the i810 driver?
[19:24] <jonaskoelker> and do the i810 cards work with jaunty?
[19:24] <TopBunny88> !glassfish?
[19:24] <TopBunny88> I ha\ve installed glassfish, how ever upon restarting my xwindos session I didn't find glassfish in the session selector menu. any clues on how tp fix thi issue?
[19:24] <shadeslayer> !info glassfish
[19:24] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:25] <Pici> TopBunny88: What is glassfish?
[19:25] <Radtoo> Pici: Java EE server.
[19:25] <pronoy> ubuntistas: click on add and enter this
[19:25] <pronoy> ubuntistas; #deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
[19:25] <pronoy> ubuntistas: without the #
[19:25] <TopBunny88> glassfish is a windows ,amager i think
[19:25] <ubuntistas> ok pronoy shoot fast
[19:26] <Pici> TopBunny88: How did you install it?
[19:26]  * shadeslayer gives his AK-47 to pronoy 
[19:26] <pronoy> ubuntistas: again add this deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
[19:26] <Radtoo> TopBunny88: no, that was looking glass, probably?
[19:26] <maco> Pici: it's java based and made by sun, i believe
[19:26] <pronoy> shadeslayer: lol
[19:26] <stefano> salve
[19:26] <pronoy> ubuntistas: done ?
[19:26] <maco> Pici: very pretty
[19:26] <stefano> hello
[19:26] <duvnell2> gnome has correct key bindings for my audio volume up/down.. that's nice.. however, can I adjust the amount it increments my audio by?  my audio device's mixer seems to be an exponential curve instead of linear or something.. only about the last 4 clicks of the volume control produce much sound .. and so basically I have control of the volume at 25% 50% 75% and 100%... can I adjust the increment amount of the volume keys or tell it that it's  non-li
[19:27] <tonytraductor> holy cow...no wonder I switched to fluxbox...KDE is suddenly a huge mess
[19:27] <Pici> Radtoo: I think you're on the right track.
[19:27] <tonytraductor> and I never did like gnome
[19:27] <tonytraductor> but I definitely don't like this new kde...blecchhhh
[19:27] <advance> duvnell2:  When you find out give me a ring. just to help you out it's not the VolumeStep it's something else.. I just learned to live with it
[19:27] <shadeslayer> btw who was arguing with me that day that xfce is better?
[19:27] <Radtoo> Pici: Well, I know I'm right but I didn't want to annoy anyone with definite statements / corrections ;)
[19:27] <stefano> is there a gnome applet that shows open windows list as Windows Seven does?
[19:27] <pronoy> ubuntistas: you there ?
[19:28] <duvnell2> advance: here is volume step configured?  so I can verify that that's also not my issue?
[19:28] <pronoy> man my patience is wearing out
[19:28] <shadeslayer> stefano: stacks?
[19:28] <TopBunny88> How do I install looking glass
[19:28] <ubuntistas> pronoy i couldn't add the first one
[19:28] <pronoy> ubuntistas: what ??
[19:28] <stefano> shadeslayer, yes :-)
[19:28] <stefano> and icon without text
[19:28] <tonytraductor> bloated sack o' useless eyecandy
[19:28] <advance> duvnell2:  I don't remember... It's not your issue... It just figures out how far the volume bar goes with one click... once you have that it just takes you alot of volume clicks to move it one step untill it takes it down 25%
[19:28] <ubuntistas> pronoy the first one source
[19:29] <jonny100> hey
[19:29] <Radtoo> TopBunny88: Hemm, before that, if you just want some desktop effects and such, compiz is more common and (arguably) more usable.
[19:29] <Pici> tonytraductor: We don't need those comments here, the channel is already busy enough
[19:29] <pronoy> shadeslayer: i have to leave immedtiately can you do me a favour.....plz help ubuntistas in adding the new jaunty sources and update it
[19:29] <shadeslayer> stefano: heh,xfce uses 19 pc of my RAM whereas GNOME uses just 12 pc
[19:29] <shadeslayer> pronoy: sorry mate,im kinda busy my self
[19:29] <Pici> pronoy: Are you helping him upgrade to Jaunty?
[19:29] <pronoy> Pici: he's already done that......he doesn' have the sources
[19:30] <pronoy> Pici: jaunty sources list
[19:30] <jonny100> hi i am a newbie to linux but it wont let me install flash player so i can watch youtube videos please help
[19:30] <pronoy> Pici: he needs to install certain 2 packages
[19:30] <shadeslayer> TopBunny88: theres a wiki on it,search google,third entry ;)
[19:30] <aminh> hey guys i'm trying to install postgresql on ubuntu 8.10 server for rails production.... 'sudo apt-get install postgresql-server postgresql-client' the client gets installed but it says that the server has no installation candidate
[19:30] <TheZanke> On a laptop, with a fresh ubuntu install... what packages do i require to get my webcam to work properly? I want it to work on stickam.. currently the webcam light just stays on at all times but no cam shows up when i get in stickam, its just black... Also when i right click for flash settings, the "Settings" option is greyed out.
[19:30] <jonny100> hi i am a newbie to linux but it wont let me install flash player so i can watch youtube videos please help
[19:31] <Radtoo> TopBunny88: I know it can be installed but most people have been disappointed with it as far as usability / performance / stability goes. compiz is fairly mature and wide-spread in comparison, and in the default repository...
[19:31] <unitedpotsmokers> hello guys, in Jaunty what software which support blogger.com? i need 3rd party blog editor
[19:31] <ubuntistas> pronoyyyy
[19:31] <all_is_fair> after yesterdays updates.  I lost all networking and wireless support... any ideas?
[19:31] <Pici> all_is_fair: Looks like you're in now.
[19:31] <raven_>  i'm trying to muxx a video and a ac3 audio file with FFMPEG ... -> at least one output file..... - what is wrong? tnx
[19:31] <all_is_fair> thanks
[19:31] <KomiaPoika> which gui is best after kde?
[19:32] <ubuntistas> pronoy
[19:32] <Radtoo> KomiaPoika: matter of taste. really.
[19:32] <Pici> ubuntistas: He left.
[19:32] <dephiance> how do I bump up the virtual screen size in X?  this is all I get "Defaulting Virtual to 2048 2048 for i965."
[19:32] <ubuntistas> can u help?
[19:32] <all_is_fair> after yesterdays updates.  I lost all networking and wireless support... any ideas?
[19:32] <gpled> how uptodate are bind and postfix packages on the latest ubuntu server?
[19:32] <KomiaPoika> Radtoo: i have a kubuntu box with kde3 cos kde4 is still hell. but i dont want the pita of hacking kde3 into 8.10 on the other box. so i was wondering if gnome had any other serious alternative
[19:33] <Pici> ubuntistas: I'm busy, but someone else may be able to.
[19:33] <shadeslayer> TopBunny88: ewwww,why would anyone install a windows like GUI all over again if you want to get away from windoze
[19:33] <peppot> 2.6.28-11-generic: is anyone else having problems with expresscard devices (pciehp). the pciehp module seems to be missing -- compiled in? works here with 2.6.27, but in .28, expresscard devices do not work
[19:33] <ienorand> all_is_fair: Stop repeating, can you use "sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[19:33] <TopBunny88> Radtoo: I want to replace gnome with a similar windows manager session to that of the javea desktop environment that come standard eith Solaris and open solaris
[19:33] <ienorand> all_is_fair: thats for wired
[19:33] <jonny100> hey guys   flash player wont install
[19:34] <jonny100> #ubuntu
[19:34] <shadeslayer> !flash > jonny100
[19:34] <tapspat> Hey guys ! I messed up "directory permissions" at two places ! One in my local directory and one in the NFS mount Directory ! I tried to do "chmod 777 <Local Dir>" [Thanks to grawity ]and it worked but that thing fails in my NFS Directory ?!
[19:34] <gpled> jonny100: 9.04?
[19:34] <ubuntistas> Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:34] <jonny100> how
[19:34] <ubuntistas> Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:34] <shadeslayer> jonny100: see the message in the PM and follow the wiki
[19:34] <Titanium> Alone can you help me to the flash player on firefox ?
[19:35] <Titanium> please
[19:35] <darthanubis> flash has gotten so easy to install
[19:35] <jonaskoelker> ubuntistas: replace "se." with ""
[19:35] <jonny100> how
[19:35] <Radtoo> TopBunny88: Do you have a screenshot or something?
[19:35] <darthanubis> even for 64bit
[19:35] <shadeslayer> jonny100: open the wiki link
[19:35] <tapspat> dhimant@tapspat /u4:$ chmod 777 shashah/
[19:35] <tapspat> chmod: changing permissions of `shashah/': Operation not permitted
[19:35] <TopBunny88> Radtoo: No
[19:35] <Bruno> alguem sabe como faço pra entra no server irc.freenode.net ?
[19:35] <tapspat> grawity : dhimant@tapspat /u4:$ chmod 777 shashah/
[19:35] <tapspat> chmod: changing permissions of `shashah/': Operation not permitted
[19:35] <Radtoo> KomiaPoika: that mostly depends on you... I  actually like wmii despite it not having any eyecandy :)
[19:36] <doleyb> darthanubis: yeah but flash doesn't work well :(
[19:36] <KomiaPoika> Radtoo: is that windowmaker?
[19:36] <joshjtl> folks, i need some help, I can record sound from my mic into Kwave, but not into Audacity... (kubuntu btw)
[19:36] <Radtoo> KomiaPoika: (that's a WM on the minimalist end, but believe it or not, its workable for some people). The question is, what do you like? If its a windows-like wm, perhaps xfce4 is good?
[19:36] <shadeslayer> btw if anyone experiences problems with connecting to freenode from irssi or chatzilla tell him/her to use chat.freenode.net instead of irc.ubuntu.com or irc.freenode.net
[19:36] <darthanubis> works perfect on my box of course
[19:37] <darthanubis> not one issue since the native 64bit plugin dropped
[19:37] <shadeslayer> jonny100: please do notpm me
[19:37] <darthanubis> firefox never crashes anymore
[19:37] <doleyb> darthanubis: Oh really?  What is your gigahertz?
[19:37] <shadeslayer> !flash | jonny100
[19:37] <unop> tapspat, you might need to use sudo with that
[19:37] <darthanubis> doleyb, irrelevant
[19:38] <jonny100> okok
[19:38] <doleyb> darthanubis: You're wrong.  The problem with the 64 bit flash plugin is it takes 2 gigahertz to do a job that can be handled in 600 mhz with the windows flash.
[19:38] <Radtoo> KomiaPoika: no, wmii is wmii. can look like this http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Image:Wmii_screenshot.jpg although I don't have it quite as black :)
[19:38] <sharperguy> Just running the 9.04 live-cd. I already ran the disk defect checker and nothing was found, however now half way through installing it, it says that the disk isn't being read properly. Now I've already deleting my current OS so I can't do burn another disk or anything...
[19:38] <bullgard4> Why is there no 'man watchdog'? My Ubuntu 8.10 shows a process which has been issued by the 'watchdog/0' command. Where is program description of watchdog/0?
[19:38] <shadeslayer> doleyb: really?? i have 64 bit....no problems here
[19:38] <TopBunny88> RadtooWhat are my window manager option other than kde and gnme
[19:39] <happyface> I just installed Jaunty and no wireless networks show up in the list... but it looks like the card is detected.
[19:39] <TopBunny88> RadtooWhat are my window manager option other than kde and gnome
[19:39] <shadeslayer> !info watchdog
[19:39] <darthanubis> doleyb, lol, what moron is trying to run flash on a system with a 600mhz cpu?
[19:39] <ubuntistas> jonaskoelker how can i delete the old one souces
[19:39] <Radtoo> TopBunny88: A lot. Like 40 or so can be installed one way or the other.
[19:39] <darthanubis> that is a router these days
[19:39] <shadeslayer> bullgard4: maybe they were removed
[19:39] <Pici> bullgard4: Check /usr/share/doc/watchdog    Not all commands have man pages.
[19:40] <doleyb> darthanubis: I don't see why I should answer such an offensive question.
[19:40] <jonny100> hi
[19:40] <peppot> anyone know if pcie hotplug is broken in 2.6.28 or if it's just missing or if it can't be compiled and must be a module to function?
[19:40] <Radtoo> TopBunny88: but weren't you looking at the eyecandy stuff? compiz + gnome or compiz + kde is a fairly common choice.
[19:40] <darthanubis> offensive lol, chillax
[19:40] <tapspat> unop : Thanks for replying but NO SUCCESS ! same error
[19:40] <unop> tapspat, what file system is that directory on?
[19:41] <genii-around> bullgard4: Thats a good qustion. A manpage for it certainly does exist as google shows. PErhaps it's manpages are just not being installed by default when the binary package is
[19:41] <Pici> !etiquette > darthanubis
[19:41] <Radtoo> TopBunny88: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfSwzhSn1c <- if you want to watch some compiz on 8.04...
[19:41] <tapspat> unop : its nfs
[19:42] <kornejo> hi can someone help me how to install nvidia drivers on ubuntu 9.4?
[19:42] <jonny100> how do i increase the space on my partition
[19:42] <ubuntistas> iam fucked up with software sources any help guys?>
[19:42] <darthanubis> Pici, Jesus, save it, not I said warrants some kind of warning
[19:42] <genii-around> !language | ubuntistas
[19:42] <Pici> ubuntistas: Please watch your language here.
[19:42] <darthanubis> nithng
[19:42] <darthanubis> nothing
[19:42] <shadeslayer> kornejo: system > admin > restricted drives
[19:42] <Pici> darthanubis: Calling other users here morons is not acceptable.
[19:42] <shadeslayer> *drivers
[19:42] <sharperguy> Nobody have any suggestions for what to do about my previous question? I'm kinda stuck... Will burning another CD elsewhere help? Or is it maybe my drive?
[19:42] <jonny100> how do i increase the space on my partition
[19:42] <ubuntistas> okkk
[19:43] <jonny100> so i can download more stuff
[19:43] <darthanubis> Pici, reading comprehension, I did not call him anything. it was a question. He assumed he was the "moron".
[19:43] <Radtoo> jonny100: ... delete things?
[19:43] <doleyb> darthanubis: My computer is a dual-core ath64 that runs at 800, 1600, or 1800 mhz.  To stay at 800 is important to conserve battery and heat, but things like youtube are barely functional.
[19:43] <shadeslayer> jonny100: extend it :)
[19:43] <jonny100> how
[19:43] <sacarlson> ﻿jonny100:  buy a new disk?
[19:43] <scott_> could someone help me with something simple?
[19:43] <KomiaPoika> Radtoo: thx
[19:43] <jonny100> no i have 1tb
[19:43] <Radtoo> scott_: if you tell us what..?
[19:43] <scott_> I need to make a xp live usb stick
[19:43] <kornejo> i cant
[19:43] <jonny100> just extend
[19:43] <shadeslayer> !gparted | jonny100
[19:43] <kornejo> it doesnt install it
[19:43] <Saiki> anyone here ever use PCSX2? I have a problem with the joypad not reading (but reads everywhere else)
[19:43] <jonny100> ty
[19:44] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, I have to be able to put files on a fat partition(usb stick)
[19:44] <ubuntistas> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.otenet.gr/dists/jaunty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:44] <ubuntistas> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.otenet.gr/dists/jaunty-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:44] <ubuntistas> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:44] <ubuntistas> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[19:44] <FloodBot1> ubuntistas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <Radtoo> Saiki: been a while... and the joypad worked here. I had a logitech rumblepad if that helps.
[19:44] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, I've formatted it using gpartd
[19:44] <mew-chan> i downloadd eggdrop via sodo aptitude and i donnt know where to look to find it
[19:44] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, but now its unable to mount
[19:44] <sharperguy> jonny100, You'll need to get a livecd or something to edit any partitions which need to be mounted in order to run the system. I think theres a gparted livecd specifically for that
[19:44] <jonny100> can i do it form vista
[19:44] <raven_> how can i muxx a video from audio and video files using FFMPEG?
[19:45] <jonny100> disk mangament
[19:45] <shadeslayer> jonny100: maybe
[19:45] <Dalamar> how is support with a ATI Radeon HD 3200 still hit or miss? 
[19:45] <Saiki> Radtoo: I have a rumblepad as well, mine doesn't work in pcsx2, but does everywhere else
[19:45] <Radtoo> AmnesiaUK: Uh, I haven't been following what you said before and all, though..
[19:45] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo,  ok
[19:45] <jonny100> just extend the linux partition
[19:45] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, I need to put files on a fat partition(my usb stick)
[19:46] <Radtoo> Saiki: I wished I knew. well, they constantly change plugins. you might be able to get it working with a newer / older joypad plugin
[19:46] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, I formatted it using gparted
[19:46] <ubuntistas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165064/
[19:46] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, though it isnt possible to mount it anymore
[19:46] <shadeslayer> Dalamar: try having a look at the wiki
[19:46] <shadeslayer> !ati | Dalamar
[19:46] <yn> what is the name of the package that would satisfy the mta dependency requirement?
[19:46] <ubuntistas> how can i delete these and put the right sources for jaunty?
[19:46] <Radtoo> AmnesiaUK: hmm. formatted with what filesystem? and what error happens when you try to mount?
[19:46] <yn> I thought it used to exist, "fakemta" or something like that
[19:46] <Saiki> Radtoo: check pm
[19:46] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, formatted it using fat32
[19:46] <yn> want to avoid installing exim
[19:47] <madbuntu> should i uninstall libavcodec52 and libavutil49 to install ubuntu-restricted package? (i.e. what are those two? I am using Jaunty 64)
[19:48] <ubuntistas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165064/
[19:48] <AmnesiaUK> Radtoo, nothing happends at all
[19:48] <doleyb> madbuntu: it could be that they are older versions of things supplied by ubuntu-restricted-package
[19:48] <shadeslayer> madbuntu: the ubuntu-restircted-extra is a meta package,it will pull in things automatically
[19:48] <madbuntu> add/remove had me go to synaptic because of a conflict
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> madbuntu:  i alwyas just install the ubuntu-restr4icted-extra paackage.
[19:48] <KnoppixNoob> hm
[19:48] <tapspat> Hello guys I need help from you. chmod 777 <directory> doesnt work on nfs mounted drive !
[19:49] <madbuntu> libavcodec52 and libavutil49 will be removed
[19:49] <madbuntu> who knows, im going for it
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> tapspat:   You might need to do the chmoding on the server side/end  check the nfs docs?  that sounds like the sort of thing that from a security point of view. nfs would be stopping
[19:49] <KnoppixNoob> no luck with the Script: http://www.nopaste.de/p/aagF6vFlt ... I get the following error: ./copy.sh: line 6: syntax error near unexpected token `\ ' ./copy.sh: line 6: `) \ '
[19:50] <bullgard4> Pici: I did not find it in the directory you gave me. But in a directory nearby I found a program description. --  Thank you for your help.
[19:50] <joshjtl> folks, i need some help, I can record sound from my mic into Kwave, but not into Audacity... (kubuntu btw)
[19:50] <Pici> bullgard4: Sure thing
[19:50] <ubuntistas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165064/
[19:50] <tapspat> Dr_Willis : Thank you. I will check it out !
[19:50] <shadeslayer> joshjtl: #kubuntu then
[19:50] <th0r> tapspat: you should be able to ssh to the server and do the chmod via the ssh connection
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> KnoppixNoob:  ive seen issues with some scripts when they expect 'sh' to be 'bash' not 'dash' check the script make sure its calling #!/bin/bash perhaps.
[19:50] <etotheipi> Hi. I'm using Jaunty, and my MSI CB54G2 (PCMCIA wireless card, Ralink RT2500 chipset) doesn't pick up any wireless access points almost *at all*; I've tried with rutilt, airodump-ng, kismet and network manager, and I've only ever had (after a few hours of scanning with NM), one AP appear. Scanning with my inbuilt ipw2200 Intel card shows tens of access points. What could cause this?
[19:51] <joshjtl> shadeslayer: ive been trying
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> KnoppixNoob:  also watch out for lines in the script like 'sh otherscript' that may need tobe 'bash otherscript'
[19:51] <ubuntistas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165064/
[19:51] <InjEctOr> afternoon (morning) all there
[19:51] <shadeslayer> joshjtl: you could try this
[19:51] <bullgard4> genii-around: I found a description in the Linux kernel Documentation in the directory watchdog.
[19:51] <shadeslayer> !sound > joshjtl
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> KnoppixNoob:  that script should at least start with #!/bin/bash
[19:52] <shadeslayer> joshjtl: or try alsamixer in konsole
[19:52] <ubuntistas> pronoy?
[19:52] <unop> KnoppixNoob, make sure there is no space after that \ on line 6
[19:52] <shadeslayer> ubuntistas: he quit
[19:52] <waffle_> hi all
[19:52] <joshjtl> shadeslayer: already tried alsamixer, I can hear my mic just fine, but audacity wont record it
[19:52] <ptietjens> Anyone have any experience getting an Ubuntu based netbook to authenticate using LDAP over wireless?
[19:52] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer how can i delete these and put the right sources for jaunty?
[19:52] <rroblak> I'm having trouble deleting this folder: d?????????    ? ?        ?            ?                ? media.gold.self
[19:53] <shadeslayer> ubuntistas: ok ill try
[19:53] <rroblak> that's the output of ls -ld
[19:53] <unop> Dr_Willis, that should run under /bin/sh too .. but it will default to /bin/bash if his current shell is bash.
[19:53] <sharperguy> how come I have built in support for rm and mp3 files on the live cd?
[19:53] <ubuntistas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165064/
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> rroblak:  ???'s like that are a sign that the filesystem may need fscking
[19:53] <Dalamar> anyone got a ATI Radeon HD 3200 running with clean hd playback/tv out in ubuntu? google is giving me tons of mixed results, interested in first hand knowledge 
[19:53] <rroblak> Dr_Willis, it's only on that one folder
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> unop:  ive seen 'issues' in the past when scripts dont have a #!/bin/SOMTHING   :)  just best to play it safe
[19:54] <darcknight> home  o_sda1  o_sda2  o_sda5  o_sda6  o_sda7  o_sda8
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> rroblak:  its not some mount point/nfs/sshfs directory? i would still suggest fscking the filesytem..
[19:54] <smoking> How do I remove library entries in rhythmbox?
[19:54] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: ok,lemme google a bit
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> rroblak:  if you want to delete it  try mc, or tab completion to get its proper name.
[19:54] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer a little bit fast
[19:54] <unop> Dr_Willis, if the shell encounters a script without a shebang, it tries to execute it .. you can be guaranteed that
[19:55] <InjEctOr> i need to install translation software, anyone can help me please ?
[19:55] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: i could give you min
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> unop:  lets just say in the last ubuntu release.. i had some REAL quirky issue where it dident work right.. might of been fixed by now. :) I hope.
[19:55] <shadeslayer_> *mine
[19:55] <guidonicolas> hola...quiero hacer un FOR para un script...pero me dice q tengo un error de sintaxis...
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> unop:  and i had a similer 'discussion' back then with some guys  about it.
[19:56] <tapspat> th0r : Thanks but I dont have perms to connect to the server ! I will ask those server guys !
[19:56] <shadeslayer_> Pici: can i give ubuntistas my sources list?? will it work ??
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> unop:  i had to take about 30 scripts and add a #! line to them to get them to work right. (of course its always good to get in good habbits)
[19:56] <InjEctOr> anybody want to help ?
[19:56] <InjEctOr> helllo
[19:56] <ackbahr> Hi! 9.04 on a laptop here, Working quite OK until I tried to connect an external screen : no more touchpad, and I'm stuck with 3 basical 4:3 resolutions.... What can I do?
[19:56] <guidonicolas> #ubuntu-es
[19:56] <ubuntistas> ok
[19:56] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: ok ill paste it anyways
[19:56] <th0r> tapspat: the permissions are forwarded from the server to you. Unless you have permission to change the server you won't be able to chmod anything there
[19:57] <InjEctOr> translation software if anyone can help please tell me
[19:57] <ricardo__> j #ubuntu-es
[19:57] <genii-around> guidonicolas: eg:   /join #ubuntu-es
[19:57] <ubuntistas> how can i delete the old one shadeslayer because i have erros
[19:57] <happyface> I just installed Jaunty and no wireless networks show up in the list... but it looks like the card is detected. what do i do?>
[19:57] <shadeslayer_> um...where is my sources.list located?
[19:57] <genii-around> ricardo__: : eg:   /join #ubuntu-es
[19:57] <doleyb> shadeslayer_: /etc/apt.  Also, you can try the "locate" command yourself
[19:57] <JosefAssad> shadeslayer_: /etc/apt/
[19:57] <guidonicolas> thanks!
[19:58] <InjEctOr> is there any human for talking with him!
[19:58] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer i added them too but they are not shoen in the third party tab what's going on?
[19:58] <KB1JWQ> InjEctOr: No, we're all bots.
[19:58] <boringpackets> how do i install Flash Nonfree for Ubuntu x64?
[19:58] <ubuntistas> shown
[19:58] <hateball> !flash64 | boringpackets
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> boringpackets:  i just install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package and it grabs the right stuff
[19:58] <InjEctOr> bots:|
[19:58] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: first gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:59] <InjEctOr> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[19:59] <Pici> InjEctOr: stop.
[19:59] <InjEctOr> sorry i'll gave up
[19:59] <shadeslayer_> Pici: ah youre here,did you get my question?
[19:59] <KnoppixNoob> thanks, now it works ( I hope)
[19:59] <Pici> InjEctOr: We're not psychic, you need to ask a question if you expect to get an answer.
[19:59] <joshjtl> this is my sound card info... does it look ok ?
[19:59] <joshjtl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165072/
[19:59] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer then?
[19:59] <KB1JWQ> joshjtl: Does it work?
[19:59] <Pici> shadeslayer_: He should use the software sources tool to modify the sources.
[20:00] <shadeslayer_> Pici: which package?
[20:00] <joshjtl> KB1JWQ: sort of... everything except I cant record with audacity (although I can record mic in kwave, and can hear the mic too)
[20:00] <Pici> shadeslayer_: What?
[20:00] <raven_> how can i muxx a video from audio and video files using FFMPEG?
[20:00] <shadeslayer_> Pici: ah not the menu.list you mean
[20:00] <Mathew_VE8MN> hello ppl am a new bee
[20:00] <Pici> shadeslayer_: sources.list is not menu.list.
[20:00] <Mathew_VE8MN> i need some help?
[20:01] <Pici> !ask | Mathew_VE8MN
[20:01] <Mathew_VE8MN> ? is boot amager editing
[20:01] <shadeslayer_> Pici: yeah,sorry just a bit tired myself :)
[20:01] <Mathew_VE8MN> were do i find it
[20:01] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer are u following ?
[20:01] <KB1JWQ> Pici: There a list of all the triggers we can throw at ubottu?
[20:01] <boringpackets> wow hateball, that was too dang easy :)
[20:01] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: ok which source was pronoy asking to modify?
[20:01] <ubuntistas> i desperate dude i have many problems shadeslayer tell me
[20:02] <Pici> KB1JWQ: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[20:02] <KB1JWQ> Pici: Thank you, sir.
[20:02] <hateball> boringpackets: Most things are when you know how ;)
[20:02] <doleyb> Mathew_VE8MN: What language do you speak?
[20:02] <trentg> can anyone tell me how to set up bluetooth headphones? I already got them paired but don't know how to use them. Using 9.04
[20:02] <Mathew_VE8MN> and english
[20:02] <Exoide> Hi there! There's someone here that use the logo language?
[20:02] <Mathew_VE8MN> just some thumbs in the way
[20:02] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: could you paste that sources.list?
[20:03] <doleyb> Exoide: I might have used logo in 1983!
[20:03] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer i just wanna delete the one i sent you with pastebin and then put the sources that needed to install gtk 2 and linjib
[20:03] <all_is_fair> after yesterdays updates.  I lost all networking and wireless support... any ideas?
[20:03] <FUbbyCD> ok guys
[20:03] <ubuntistas> got it shadeslayer?
[20:03] <bc> is there an ubuntu repository somewhere for songbird?
[20:03] <FUbbyCD> we have to figure this out... Together
[20:03] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: if you just need the partner repo i found it
[20:03] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: nope
[20:03] <FUbbyCD> lets put our jaunty jackolopes together
[20:03] <boringpackets> i dont know why anyone uses linux mint. llinux mint is the crappy, unreliable slow version of ubuntu
[20:04] <FUbbyCD> http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090430-tows-kfc-coupon-download
[20:04] <ubuntistas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165077/ shadeslayer
[20:04] <FUbbyCD> EVERYONE click that and lets figure out how to do it in ubuntu
[20:04] <bc> FUbbyCD: heh
[20:04] <doleyb> Exoide: I see that ubuntu includes the ucblogo package
[20:04] <zloog> It seems amarok isnt going through pulse audio, so the only way i can use it is if I allow it to monopolize the sound card. Is there a way I can make it use pulse? (9.04)
[20:04] <boringpackets> this is so much more stable than mint, and the only "convenience" of mint is they preinstall restricted modules by default
[20:04] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer what you didn't understand man
[20:04] <hateball> all_is_fair: Most likely some update to the kernel broke your wifi then. Have you tried booting an older kernel?
[20:04] <FUbbyCD> FREE KFC Chicken no joke
[20:04] <FUbbyCD> http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090430-tows-kfc-coupon-download
[20:04] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: ok im just comparing the two,wait for 2 min
[20:05] <bc> sigh, nevermind -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[20:05] <KB1JWQ> !attitude | ubuntistas
[20:05] <Saiki> anyonw know what to do about an unresponsive pad in one program?
[20:05] <all_is_fair> after yesterdays updates.  I lost all networking and wireless support... any ideas? HELP!!
[20:05] <FUbbyCD> just need to figure out how to get it to print under ubuntu 4 coupons per computer
[20:05] <FUbbyCD> and no you dont have to buy anything
[20:05] <ubuntistas> okkkkkkkkkkk
[20:05] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: replace line  28 with deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jaunty partner
[20:06] <ienorand> all_is_fair: did you try the "sudo dhcclient eth0" command I gave you?
[20:06]  * ienorand ...or not
[20:06] <ubuntistas> did you undesrtand what i wanna do ? what is my <goal>? shadeslayer?
[20:07] <joshjtl> help
[20:07] <KB1JWQ> shadeslayer_: I hope you're charging for this. :)
[20:07] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: you want to install a few packages and i can see you dont have the corrent sources
[20:07] <FUbbyCD> im not trying to spam but we have a situation here.. oprah is about to come on and when she does all hell is going to break loose when people start hammering the site
[20:07] <FUbbyCD> http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090430-tows-kfc-coupon-download
[20:07] <shadeslayer_> KB1JWQ: meh....i have enough money=
[20:07] <kegster> how do i uninstall ubuntu from my pc and then put the partition back onto my windows?
[20:07] <FUbbyCD> because shes going to announce it and right now you need windows
[20:07] <Exoide> doleyb, let me see
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> !player
[20:08] <fevel> LOL
[20:08] <luisa> ola
[20:08] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: man your sources are looking pretty bad
[20:08] <ubuntistas> line 28 is not correct shadeslayer
[20:08] <fevel> you shouldnt want a cupon that lures you into a restrictive system
[20:08] <fevel> its like a fish bait
[20:08] <dephiance>  I added a Virtual 2560 2048 to xorg.conf but xrandr still reports 2048 x 2048.  what else can I try?
[20:08] <kegster> how do i uninstall ubuntu from my pc and then put the partition back onto my windows?
[20:08] <ericdb> If I upgrade 8.10 -> 9.04 through Synaptic, will it remember my drivers for wireless and graphics, or reset to defaults?  Wireless is always a pain with a new install.
[20:09] <FUbbyCD> my dad just got a free grilled chicken meal on the way home
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. whats the pacakge name for beep media player..  I thought it was bmpx
[20:09] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: i know i told you to replace it with deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty universe
[20:09] <shadeslayer_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates universe
[20:09] <mib_da2coq32> Can I run a home based web server from ubuntu9.04?
[20:09] <shadeslayer_> opps
[20:09] <shadeslayer_> wait
[20:09] <FloodBot1> shadeslayer_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:09] <FUbbyCD> its legit i know it sounds sketchy
[20:09] <Lenin_Cat> I want to do a fresh install, but how would I keep my /home folder
[20:09] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer i told you  pronoy sent me false sources how can i delete the old one i sent that's what iam telling you
[20:09] <fevel> nevertheless you can install ie on linux with ie4linux
[20:09] <FUbbyCD> but shoot if you can install it in wine or something whats the worry
[20:09] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: gksu gedit etc/apt/menu.list
[20:09] <Lenin_Cat> its on a seperate partition
[20:09] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: make that sources.list
[20:09] <ikt> mib_da2coq32: yes
[20:09] <kegster> how do i uninstall ubuntu from my pc and then put the partition back onto my windows?
[20:10] <KB1JWQ> FUbbyCD: Why is this relevant here, exactly?
[20:10] <FUbbyCD> they say its so you can only print 4 per computer because it makes a barcode thing
[20:10] <FUbbyCD> because you can not do it on ubuntu
[20:10] <ikt> mib_da2coq32: in fact it's a much better option than using windows
[20:10] <mpontillo> Anyone else seeing USB keyboard problems on 9.04? I have an intermittent problem where typing a key does nothing. Plugging the same keyboard into my wife's Windows box, it works fine... and this is on a laptop; the built-in keyboard works fine. Was going to try one of the other kernels available in the repo. Any other suggestions? Note, I have the same problem with both the text consoles and X...
[20:10] <FUbbyCD> an im sure theres a way around it
[20:10] <shadeslayer_> kegster: format the linux partition then install the windows boot loader
[20:10] <FUbbyCD> the exe installs a firefox plugin
[20:10] <hateball> Lenin_Cat: Do manual partitioning, make sure you do NOT format the /home partition. Use the same username and it'll assume ownership of all the files too
[20:10] <KB1JWQ> FUbbyCD: Virtualization's a powerful thing.
[20:10] <ubuntistas> ok shadeslayer next?
[20:10] <yowshi> grrr cheese crashed again. is there any way to ikill it completly and open up the /dev/video0 again?
[20:10] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: refer to this http://paste.ubuntu.com/165071/
[20:11] <kegster> shadeslayer_: how do u install the windows boot loader?
[20:11] <shadeslayer_> kegster: ask in ##windows
[20:11] <doleyb> yowshi: typically killall -9 cheese
[20:11] <mib_da2coq32> anyone know about web servers on 9.04?
[20:11] <hateball> !windows | kegster
[20:11] <Lenin_Cat> hateball, I always do manual, and thats what I thought I had to do, just wanted to be sure.
[20:11] <FUbbyCD> http://www.oprah.com/article/oprahshow/20090430-tows-kfc-coupon-download   last time im going to post it I promise .. what do you guys think about it
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. someone in here yesterday couldent figure out how to enable the 'theme sounds' in gnome.. I found a checkbox under the 'volume control' applet that does it. :)  i wonder if he ever figured it out.
[20:11] <Lenin_Cat> hateball, im not a nob, I know most of the stuff on linux
[20:11] <Lenin_Cat> :)
[20:11] <hateball> Lenin_Cat: Ok, well there's not more to it :)
[20:11] <Saiki> shadeslayer_: windows bootloaded won't install on its own, it took the gub disc for mine to work
[20:11] <Lenin_Cat> hateball, thanks though
[20:11] <Lenin_Cat> :P
[20:11] <Saiki> bootloader*
[20:11] <shadeslayer_> Saiki: it did for me ;)
[20:11] <Lenin_Cat> hateball, oh yah, how do I setup a software raid
[20:12] <plume> bonsoir, pouvez vous me passer le lien de ubuntu.fr
[20:12] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer what's that?
[20:12] <shadeslayer_> Saiki: its something like bootrec in vista and fixmbr in XP
[20:12] <yowshi> doleyb: well that gets rid of the cheese window but not the process in the ps -A list
[20:12] <hateball> !raid | Lenin_Cat
[20:12] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: ping
[20:12] <FUbbyCD> you can do it on mac osx.. it isnt fair they always leave out linux
[20:12] <Saiki> shadeslayer_: on OEMs it refuses to work, tried it before lol
[20:12] <imp0steur> Hi guys
[20:12] <yowshi> doleyb:  2786 pts/0    00:00:04 cheese <defunct>
[20:12] <hateball> Lenin_Cat: I havent set up raid, I only use hardware raid + LVM
[20:13] <imp0steur> I have a question .. Is it safe to have /home on NTFS partition??
[20:13] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer ping?
[20:13] <shadeslayer_> Saiki: funny thing it was OEM install i was talking about.XP or vista ?
[20:13] <Lenin_Cat> hateball, what is better software raid and LVM
[20:13] <Lenin_Cat> also hateball what is the benefit of a hardware raid
[20:13] <Saiki> shadeslayer_: vista
[20:13] <Lenin_Cat> besides the braging
[20:13] <mib_da2coq32> Guess no one knows in here:((
[20:13] <calrik> ah crap is it because Im running ubuntu 64 that I cant get flash runtime to work?
[20:13] <mpontillo> !lamp | mib_da2coq32
[20:13] <KyleK> imp0steur: it wont automount if you have it mounted in windows and crash windows
[20:13] <Iowahc> hy there. since todays updates my external monitor isn't working anymore
[20:13] <shadeslayer_> Saiki: just before the install dialouge there is a option for recovery in the bottom left corner.
[20:14] <ikt> mib_da2coq32: see my response earlier
[20:14] <Iowahc> also, I used radeonhd driver before, but now all I get is a black screen
[20:14] <Saiki> shadeslayer_: mine showed no installs lol
[20:14] <hateball> Lenin_Cat: Well hardware raid is dedicated hardware for the task... and I'm just used to it that way. LVM is nice for resizing pools and so, when you need to add space quick and easy
[20:14] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer
[20:14] <shadeslayer_> Saiki: what?? i mean when you boot from a recovery disc
[20:14] <imp0steur> anybody ?? Is it safe to have move /home to NTFS partition??
[20:14] <yowshi> Lenin_Cat: those are two compeltly different hard drive setups far as i know. LVM binds multiple hard drives together as one volume as i understand it and raid sets up multiple partitions/hard drives to act as a single hard drive one backing up the others if i recall correctly
 also hateball what is the benefit of a hardware raid <- doesn't rely on software :P which means better compatibility/more likely to work better with linux
[20:15] <Saiki> shadeslayer_: exactly what I mean
[20:15] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: yes?
[20:16] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer what can i do man sources are a mess
[20:16] <ubuntistas> ?
[20:16] <tapspat> th0r : Thank you ! Your help is much appreciated ! I am working with the IT guys.
[20:16] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: i told you to look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/165071/
[20:16] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: leave out the ones at the very bottom
[20:16] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer  is that you r list
[20:16] <ubuntistas> then?
[20:16] <unop> imp0steur,  I wouldn't suggest doing that .. some programs could behave funny because they need the right unix permissions and ownership on files in your home dir
[20:16] <Mathew_VE8MN> would any one in here have any idea on or how to edit the boot manager and is there a graphical interface?
[20:17] <mike> chi parla italiano qui?
[20:17] <Iowahc> my external monitor is pink
[20:17] <unop> !it | Guest40425
[20:17] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: oooh youre in luck http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-997890.html
[20:17] <Iowahc> someone help me?
[20:17] <_Kendall78> Where is a good tutorial on wpa_supplicant. In particular setting up wpa_supplicant.conf for WPA2+PSK on my laptops internal Intel PRO wireless?
[20:17] <kegster> if i dont remember any of my user / passwords for ubuntu, how do i login?
[20:17] <imp0steur> unop: Ok .. but how often does data gets stored in /home??
[20:18] <hateball> kegster: Use recovery mode to reset the passwords
[20:18] <pepperjack> kegster: single user shell is how i normally do it.
[20:18] <Pici> !password>  kegster
[20:18] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: #2 looks complete
[20:18] <unop> imp0steur, every time a program needs to make a record of setting that pertain to you .. and with a regular desktop, that is - very often
[20:18] <raven_> how can i muxx a video from audio and video files using FFMPEG?
[20:18] <imp0steur> unop: m new to linux .. /home would b used for users configuration and preferences??
[20:18] <unop> imp0steur, that's right
[20:19] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer do i have to delete all my source list and put the #2
[20:19] <genii-around> imp0steur: /home/username
[20:19] <Lenin_Cat> hateball, can I put a preexisting partition in a LVM
[20:19] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: yep
[20:19] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: do you have any custom repo added?
[20:19] <imp0steur> unop: yes .. I have a large NTFS partition where I generally store my data .. So if my /home isn't big .. it would b ok right??
[20:19] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: do back it up :)
[20:19] <ubuntistas> what's that shadeslayer?
[20:19] <darkhelmetlive> i'm having sound issues on a dell E521. i get zero sound at all, despite the pulse audio thing showing sound coming through
[20:19] <hateball> Lenin_Cat: Nope, not in any way I know of anyhow
[20:20] <ubuntistas> how back up  shadeslayer?
[20:20] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: like i have a chromium repo added specially
[20:20] <Iowahc_> my external monitor is pink
[20:20] <unop> imp0steur, bad logic - no, even if you didn't have very much - you still need a unix filesystem
[20:20] <ubuntistas> i have medibuntu
[20:20] <xcitu> Hi. Got internet issues. "Connection enabled", but can't surf the internet. Anyone?
[20:20] <xcitu> Can anyone help?
[20:20] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: ok just replace the  sources.list with #2 and add medibuntu from medibuntu.org
[20:21] <ubuntistas> ok
[20:21] <xcitu> Hi. Got internet issues. "Connection enabled", but can't surf the internet. Anyone?
[20:21] <imp0steur> unop: I mean all my downloads, music n movies goes into my ntfs drive .. anything related to Ubuntu stays in /root I have not created a separate /home ..
[20:21] <xcitu> Can anyone help?
[20:21] <pepperjack> xcitu: check your dns first id think then route.  can you ping 74.125.45.100 or go to that in browser?
[20:21] <shadeslayer_> !help | xcitu
[20:21] <shadeslayer_> damn i need to remember that factoid
[20:21] <sacarlson> ﻿xcitu:  can't surf but you are here?
[20:22] <xcitu> I'll check. I got wired network btw. I get Connection Established, but cant do anything that requires internet. For example sudo apt-get update
[20:22] <unop> imp0steur, put all your personal data like that in a separate directory like ~/Desktop .. and mount ~/Desktop on your ntfs drive - that would be ok
[20:22] <Pici> !ask | xcitu shadeslayer_
[20:22] <Iowahc_> radeonhd support somewhere?
[20:22] <Rovanion> Does anyone know how to install Jahshaka?
[20:22] <pepperjack> Iowahc_: #radeonhd and #radeon channels
[20:22] <manish> any one help me printer on ubuntu
[20:22] <sacarlson> ﻿xcitu:  is the the computer you are chating on?
[20:22] <shadeslayer_> !cups > manish
[20:22] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: done?
[20:22] <xcitu> sacarlson: No :P
[20:23] <xcitu> Trying 2 ping, back in 1 min
[20:23] <pepperjack> xcitu: if that works try to ping google.com then too see if one works but not other
[20:23] <imp0steur> unop: Ok .. But is it safe in using read/write NTFS?? I have auto mounted the NTFS partitions .. I read a thread (Probably an old one) that says its not safe to read/write NTFS .. I am using Ubuntu 9.04 x64
[20:24] <darkhelmetlive> anybody else have sound problem on jaunty?
[20:24] <SultansElephant> is ubuntu-it only in italian
[20:24] <shadeslayer_> !sound | darkhelmetlive
[20:24] <JSidhu> can someone help me with a ubuntu/snmpd problem? Im trying to monitor my system via cacti but its not reporting anything for the Interface Statistics.. is this is a config issue?
[20:24] <ShAdoW_LnX> Hi i have a problem in a Acer Laptop, when i try to shut down my laptop. It stops hard drives but does not power off laptop. I have to press power button manually. i  try with acpi=force but dont work, any idea?? (sorry for my english)
[20:24] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: are you there or should i go :) ??
[20:24] <hateball> imp0steur: ntfs-3g is ok-ish, but if you use it all the time you'd be better off with a proper filesystem like ext3/4
[20:25] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer done how can i install gtk 2 and linjib?
[20:25] <shadeslayer_> ShAdoW_LnX: maybe its sleeping / suspending to RAM
[20:25] <sedeki> Are there any good IRC clients for gnome, apart from xchat-gnome?
[20:25] <unop> imp0steur, if you value your data - use a reputed filesystem - that's my 2 pence.
[20:25] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: first sudo apt-get update
[20:25] <darkhelmetlive> if i wanted the help of a bot i would've asked...
[20:26] <imp0steur> hateball: humm .. then I guess mounting ext3/4 in windows wouldn't safe either
[20:26] <tobywuk> sedeki, there are lots, you just need to look around. remember you can run kde software on gnome.
[20:26] <hateball> imp0steur: I wouldnt know, I dont use Windows
[20:26] <angry_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/165086/
[20:26] <angry_> can someone tell me what i did wrong ?
[20:26] <Rovanion> sedeki: Irssi if you are into the console. The gui chat app Pidgin also works as irc client
[20:26] <imp0steur> unop: reputed filesystem ext?
[20:26] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer let me add medibuntu source
[20:26] <AndIrc> hello world from my g1
[20:26] <pepperjack> imp0steur: the ext2 drivers on windows are.. poort
[20:26] <ShAdoW_LnX> shadeslayer: if i press a key or touchpad the laps shutdown
[20:26] <sedeki> Rovanion: i have a ugly console window to run irssi in
[20:27] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: ok
[20:27] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer do i have to check jaunty partner now?
[20:27] <jrib> angry_: -ENOCONTEXT
[20:27] <unop> imp0steur, ext is probably the most widely used/supported, it's a safe bet.
[20:27] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: yes
[20:27] <him> anyone knwo a tftp client gui ?
[20:27] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer source code too
[20:27] <Rovanion> sedeki: But there are a lot of apps out there, just search the repos.
[20:27] <sedeki> "repos"?
[20:27] <sedeki> ah...
[20:28] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: not necessary
[20:28] <KB1JWQ> him: http://code.google.com/p/tftpgui/
[20:28] <sedeki> Rovanion: which one do you use?
[20:28] <imp0steur> unop: humm ok
[20:28] <ubuntistas> ok
[20:28] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: what packages are you going to install btw?
[20:28] <eseven73> Can someone verify if http://esevendesigns.fairuse.org/wordpress works? I got port 80 forwarded but according to google analitics and SiteMeter I'm not getting any "Unique" Visitors in almost 2 weeks
[20:28] <pepperjack> !repos > sedeki
[20:28] <angry_> jrib,  what ?
[20:28] <jrib> angry_: exactly my question
[20:28] <him> KB1JWQ, its windows though.
[20:29] <BilokShem> mmmmmm yeah put that in me
[20:29] <KB1JWQ> him: Not so.  Go back and reread.
[20:29] <angry_> i installed the open source driver from ati
[20:29] <jrib> angry_: you provided a link to a log with no context
[20:29] <angry_> and x wont start normal..
[20:29] <angry_> i need to run it in low graphic
[20:29] <shadeslayer_> jrib: its after 130 lines or so
[20:29] <jrib> angry_: define "normal"
[20:29] <imp0steur> unop: hateball: thank you guys .. I would not stick with whatever partition I have ..
[20:29] <Rovanion> sedeki: liece and a ton of others...
[20:30] <neko_> hi
[20:30] <manish> why printer printer garbaz some time in ubuntu
[20:30] <him> KB1JWQ, i see sorry. thanks for your help
[20:30] <KB1JWQ> him: No worries.
[20:30] <shadeslayer_> manish: what?
[20:30] <manish> my printer print garbaz and block some times why
[20:31] <shadeslayer_> manish: garbage?
[20:31] <manish> ya
[20:31] <ubuntistas> shadeslayer  gtk 2 and libnjib
[20:31] <shadeslayer_> manish: did you check those wiki's i sent?
[20:31] <manish> ya
[20:31] <SultansElephant> im having trouble playing a .swf and i have all the plugins
[20:31] <manish> but i have other problem
[20:32] <manish> my printer work and give print out
[20:32] <manish> but in landscape printing it print potrate
[20:32] <kdub> apt-get is segfaulting
[20:32] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: they.....dont seem to exsist in jaunty :(
[20:32] <neko_> Is people using an intel x4500hd chipset have graphical bugs ?
[20:33] <manish> ya i am using x4500
[20:33] <manish> work fine
[20:33] <diffred> hi
[20:33] <neko_> yes ?
[20:33] <BilokShem> Why cant I install Jaunty on my Ubuntu?
[20:33] <neko_> manish some hd version ?
[20:33] <kdub> BilokShem: that question is not formed well
[20:33] <ubuntistas> so i cannot connect with gnomad anyway thx , i lost 2 hours for nothing shadeslayer
[20:33] <BilokShem> gwhat?
[20:33] <shadeslayer_> BilokShem: uh..download a CD > burn CD > install ubuntu
[20:33]  * buklovesbeer_ paei gia tsigara prin kleisei to mpakaliko
[20:34] <neko_> manish you did something special having it work correctly or it was working out of the box ?
[20:34] <seradin> Hi. I installed ubuntu-netbook-remix and disabled the netbook-launcher, is there a way to show the traditional desktop ? I'dont want to switch to the 'classic desktop' because i want to have the panel of the netbook-desktop-mode ;)
[20:34] <kdub> BilokShem: jaunty is the release name, its the same as asking "why cant i install XP on my Windows?"
[20:34] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: at least your sources are correct now
[20:34] <seradin> i mean the desktop icons with traditional desktop
[20:34] <manish> i using site
[20:34] <manish> like linux graphic
[20:34] <andre54> Hello all
[20:34] <manish> and write some point in xorg.cong
[20:35] <badde> hello
[20:35] <shadeslayer_> ubuntistas: you could still try finding a ppa for it,or something similar
[20:35] <badde> !list
[20:35] <manish> neko_ it is not working in ubuntu 8.04
[20:35] <manish> i have 9.04
[20:36] <mroc> i'm getting a latex error:  doublespace.sty not found.   what package do i need to install to get this??
[20:36] <neko_> i have the jaunty
[20:36] <manish> good
[20:36] <luislobo> Hi...
[20:36] <manish> then it have to work
[20:36] <arvernes> I can't remember which version of 8.04lts I installed. a desktop or server. How do I know which one is installed ?
[20:36] <seradin> how can i show the normal desktop icons under ubuntu-netbook-remix?
[20:37] <shiznebit> hmm any one might know how to setup a VPN+IPTV connection ?
[20:37] <manish> any one help me on printer page settings and printing problem
[20:37] <shadeslayer> KB1JWQ: he quit without even saying thanks,i should have charged him ;)
[20:37] <manish> why my hp printer print garbage some time
[20:37] <luislobo> I've got a Synthesizer that is not supported under the current kernel (usb-audio + usb-midi) but have been able to create a patch do usbquirks.h that makes it work, I've mailed the alsa-devel/alsa-user list to know where to submit this patch, but got ignored, any hints ?
[20:37] <doleyb> manish: Did you try #ubuntu-in
[20:38] <SultansElephant> Does it matter if you use synaptic or update manager to update?
[20:38] <KB1JWQ> shadeslayer: I'm astounded you put up with that attitude from him; I'd have laughed in his face and wished him good luck.
[20:38] <manish> sorry not yet
[20:38] <KB1JWQ> shiznebit: Sure.
[20:38] <mroc> SultansElephant: as far as i know, it shouldn't matter.
[20:38] <BilokShem> I have an Eee PC 701 with Ubuntu and I want to upgrade from 8.10 but it says I don't have enough memory to upgrade
[20:38] <shadeslayer> KB1JWQ: its a help channel,you arent helping if you laught at him in the face
[20:38] <BilokShem> How do I get more disk space?
[20:38] <KB1JWQ> BilokShem: How much RAM?
[20:38] <KB1JWQ> BilokShem: Wait, memory, or disk space?
[20:38] <BilokShem> diskspace
[20:39] <SultansElephant> BilokShem: you have to shrink your other partition
[20:39] <ubuntu3> hi how can i get mp3 working and dvd working in ubuntu 9.04
[20:39] <KB1JWQ> shadeslayer: Right, but you're not helping him either if you spoonfeed him when he's rude and demanding.
[20:39] <BilokShem> How?
[20:39] <ubuntu3> because i want to watch movies on it and listen to music
[20:39] <SultansElephant> use the GParted live CD
[20:39] <pepperjack> !restricted | ubuntu3
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[20:39] <ubuntu3> i guess you can listen to music on ubuntu too?
[20:39] <ubuntu3> ill remove windows if i can
[20:40] <KB1JWQ> BilokShem: df -h to a pastebin, please.
[20:40] <BilokShem> HOW DO I SHRINK A PARTITION
[20:40] <BilokShem> What?
[20:40] <shadeslayer> KB1JWQ: well maybe im helping him because 3 months earlier i had the same problem understanding what a repo,distro,IRC client,sudo,gksu,eyc is :P
[20:40] <pepperjack> ubuntu3: yes. movies, dvds music ect will all work we just cant include the codecs by default due to legal issues. so you have to install the package
[20:40] <shiznebit> KB1JWQ: care to share ;)
[20:40] <shadeslayer> *etc
[20:40] <BilokShem> pastebin?
[20:40] <SultansElephant> !caps
[20:40] <BilokShem> Oh
[20:40] <shadeslayer> !pastebin > BilokShem
[20:40] <KB1JWQ> !pastebin | BilokShem
[20:41] <shadeslayer> poor ubottu
[20:41] <m1dlg> my eyes(ears)
[20:41] <tobywuk> BilokShem, use a program called gparted to shrink partitions
[20:41] <ubuntistas> i upgraded to jaunty and gnomad2 doesn't work any clue?
[20:41] <BilokShem> !pastebin
[20:41] <ubuntistas> No jukeboxes found on USB bus
[20:41] <BilokShem> gparted or retarded?
[20:41] <shadeslayer> BilokShem: ubottu hates you
[20:41] <shadeslayer> lol
[20:41] <SultansElephant> BilokShem: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[20:41] <SultansElephant> download and burn the image file
[20:41] <shadeslayer> ubuntistas: is the problem solved?
[20:42] <ubuntistas> no
[20:42] <SultansElephant> then boot into gparted live cd, use the help files.. shrink your old partition (but defrag it first) and then move it over
[20:42] <mroc> hi all.  i'm getting a latex error:  doublespace.sty not found.   what package do i need to install to get this??
[20:42] <BilokShem> Oh yeah
[20:42] <SultansElephant> is your other part windows
[20:42] <m1dlg> !bot
[20:42] <m1dlg> lol
[20:43] <ubuntistas> i upgraded to jaunty and gnomad2 doesn't work any clue?
[20:43] <ubuntistas> No jukeboxes found on USB bus
[20:43] <SultansElephant> BilokShem: youre dual booting right
[20:43] <Daremonai> Does anyone know how Ubuntu 9.04 deals with SYN cookies?
[20:43] <BilokShem> no
[20:43] <yowshi> grrr i need a programme to record from my webcam that doesnt bloody crash and freeze up the webcam
[20:43] <SultansElephant> BilokShem: were you talking about HD space?
[20:43] <doleyb> Daremonai: um... I don't think that's changed for many versions.
[20:43] <BilokShem> Yes
[20:44] <BilokShem> I have an eee pc 701
[20:44] <BilokShem> I dont have a big HD
[20:44] <BilokShem> or a CD drive
[20:44] <SultansElephant> BilokShem: So you have another partition?
[20:44] <Daremonai> doleyb: alright. I'll check older versions then, if you have a reference, that would be great.
[20:44] <BilokShem> I have a SD card
[20:44] <doleyb> Daremonai: do you observe a problem?
[20:44] <darrenlooby> Right, so my set up is PC -> Router <- Laptop.... I'm using my laptop as a test server. Can I also use it as some sort of DNS, so that I can capture all requests to 'example.com' on my LAN and serve the local version?
[20:44] <SultansElephant> BilokShem: You can get an external harddrive
[20:44] <BilokShem> too expensive
[20:44] <SultansElephant> usb drives
[20:44] <BilokShem> yes
[20:45] <SultansElephant> you're the one who bought the netbook =P
[20:45] <BilokShem> 3 usb drives
[20:45] <BilokShem> for 50 dollars
[20:45] <Daremonai> doleyb, no, I'm doing research on SYN cookies on different OSes, I would just like to see how it's being done, and get information on them.
[20:45] <hateball> darrenlooby: you could use squid
[20:45] <manish> is ubuntu worry about printing ?
[20:45] <darrenlooby> hateball, ok - looking it up now...
[20:45] <BilokShem> This netbook is awesome, it's got bawls
[20:45] <SultansElephant> manish: is English your first language?
[20:45] <manish> no
[20:45] <SultansElephant> what is your first lang
[20:45] <mrb> hey everybody... anyone can help me with the dd_rescue ??  i need the help plz !
[20:46] <manish> hindi
[20:46] <manish> or rajasthani
[20:46] <BilokShem> I dont like indians
[20:46] <hatter243> !in | manish
[20:46] <BilokShem> they smell like bawls
[20:46] <Pici> BilokShem: stop
[20:46] <shadeslayer> BilokShem: you would hate me then ;)
[20:46] <BilokShem> ok
[20:46] <manish> i think some people do't like indian
[20:46] <hatter243> !ot
[20:46] <Pici> !stop
[20:46] <manish> and many indian do't like ubuntu
[20:46] <manish> so i am here
[20:46] <pepperjack> BilokShem: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   just add the ssd card or whatever you use to that to specify the mount point you want for instance /media/share or whatever.  basically plug it in and do dmesg | tail youll see like sdb1 or sdc1 etc and so add a line like /dev/sdb1 /media/share  auto defaults 0 0   to fstab
[20:46] <shadeslayer> manish: LIES
[20:47] <mroc> can anyone here answer a LaTeX question - which package has doublespace.sty ?
[20:47] <hbekel> darrenlooby: if you an entry of your laptop's ip to your PC's /etc/hosts file you should be able to access the laptop on the local lan under the name you've given in /etc/hosts
[20:47] <kdub1> mroc use apt-file
[20:47] <shadeslayer> manish: ill answer you in PM
[20:47] <hbekel> darrenlooby: if you *add
[20:47] <BilokShem> no
[20:48] <SultansElephant> manish: just asked because maybe there would be a native language channel.. but what do you mean printer worry.. do you mean can ubuntu handle printers?
[20:48] <mroc> kdub1: thank you.  usage info?  seems not to be in the man pages as apt-file.
[20:48] <cptblood> if i create an .sh file to install something on a computer, and then copy that command to an other computer, will it run all the same without differencies?
[20:48] <MeXTux> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron and would like to know where is the menu config file. I use GNOME. Everytime I want to modify the menu I use alacarte but don't know where is the menu file
[20:48] <darrenlooby> hbekel, yea, I've done that - but when I add new ones, I want to be able to just do it on the laptop. And, later, I'll want to do it so whenever anyone else goes on my LAN - I'll be able to do the same without having the play on their machine.
[20:49] <kdub1> mroc, i think you do apt-file update to fill the listings, and apt-file search <file> to use
[20:49] <mroc> kdub1: nevermind...didn't have apt-file installed.  makes sense i wouldn't have info on it then.
[20:49] <jimcooncat> cptblood: that's not a given, depends on what's in the .sh file. Many times it will work though
[20:49] <BilokShem> oohh I wish I would have met you I'd say nice shot!
[20:50] <cptblood> it will download and configure && make && sudo make install a package
[20:50] <cptblood> you think it'll be do-able jimcooncat?
[20:51] <deany> where is "publisher" in open office?
[20:51] <mrb> anybody knows anything about dd_resuce ?
[20:51] <hbekel> darrenlooby: try dnsmasqd then
[20:51] <DumDUm> hey i cant install my graphic card drivers on 9.04
[20:51] <jimcooncat> cptblood: it's iffy. especially if it has dependencies.
[20:53] <eseven73> deany, I think scribus is the desktop publisher for linux, is that what you wanted?
[20:53] <hateball> deany: Scribus would be an equivalent, OOo does not really have one
[20:53] <Armageddon> guys, is there any way to download ubuntu updates for the amd64 under a windows and then use them to update ubuntu ?
[20:53] <jimcooncat> cptblood: if you're installing on a very similar system, then more likely it will work. You have to trust the source, though -- and since it's auto-downloading, trust where it's hosted
[20:53] <darrenlooby> hbekel, what would happen if I turned my laptop off? Would my PC then just look on the internet?
[20:53] <DumDUm> hey i cant install my graphic card drivers on 9.04 pls help me
[20:53] <cptblood> it'd be downloading the XBMC svn
[20:53] <darrenlooby> hbekel, will I need to mess with my router?
[20:53] <shadeslayer> DumDUm: which card?
[20:54] <Lenin_Cat>  how do I upgrade to ext4 wail being on the installation I wish to upgrade
[20:54] <DumDUm> shadeslayer:  well i go to hardware drivers and i cant see my graphic card
[20:54] <eseven73> while*
[20:54] <deany> thanks, i`ll give it a go.
[20:55] <douz82> hi everyone
[20:55] <shadeslayer> DumDUm: lspci shows??
[20:55] <Idhan> I have a problem with libGLcore.so.1, which package containt that library to reinstall it?
[20:55] <DumDUm> yes shadeslayer
[20:55] <usser> Idhan: its usually provided by your graphics drivers
[20:55] <hbekel> darrenlooby: you could use the laptops ip as the first nameserver in your other lan client's resolv.conf's, and add your router as the second (fallback) nameserver.
[20:56] <Idhan> usser: that's bad, I have reinstall all my graphics drivers :p
[20:56] <shadeslayer> DumDUm: what does lspci in a terminal show
[20:56] <scunizi> Why does mtop depend on mysql?
[20:56] <hbekel> darrenlooby: dnsmasqd is a simple caching dns server, but it also reads /etc/hosts
[20:56] <DumDUm> shadeslayer: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
[20:56] <shadeslayer> !nvidia | DumDUm
[20:57] <shadeslayer> try that
[20:57] <tobi> hey folks ... someone of you using an iPod with amarok, or any other programm ?!
[20:57] <shadeslayer> oh maybe the 5200 is not supported by the 180 drivers
[20:57] <hbekel> darrenlooby: so you could have dnsmasqd simply use your router, but also use your special ips from your laptop's /etc/hosts
[20:58] <shadeslayer> acidicbase: hey got a quick question for you
[20:58] <darrenlooby> hbbs, I'll try and see if I can get it working then
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> I think the nvidia 5200 uses the other drivers... not the 180 ones..  its an older card
[20:58] <shadeslayer> acidicbase: not you
[20:58] <darrenlooby> hbekel, I'll try and see if I can get it working then
[20:58] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: yeah thats what i was thinking
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> shadeslayer:  i know my Nvidia 5500 does NOT use the same driver as my 8800gtsXXX
[20:58] <darrenlooby> hbekel, do I install it on my PC or on my Laptop?
[20:59] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: hmm...
[20:59] <hbekel> darrenlooby: whichever you want to use as the local dns server
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> shadeslayer:  i learned that the Hard way one day...:)
[20:59] <darrenlooby> hbekel, cool thanks
[21:00] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: im just checking out links which lists which cards are supported
[21:00] <konflict> Hey all, let's say I have a script I run, a simple .sh script that brings up my ipv6 tunnel (its just some ifconfig commands) but I want it to automatically run this script after bootup.  What ist he best way to go about this?
[21:00] <deany> scribus looks like a gtk1 app, ugly. anything newer?
[21:00] <Armageddon> guys is there anyway to download the latest ubuntu updates from the website under another operating system without knowing what update packages i need ? i need them all i just installed the ubuntu amd 64 beta release...
[21:00] <deany> that or its qt.
[21:00] <kdub1> my base system is installed on ext3. is it possible to upgrade that to ext4 w/o wiping the disk?
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> konflict:  run it from /etc/rc.local is one way
[21:00] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/appendix-a.html
[21:01] <luigi> help me to use canon ip 1500 on kubuntu
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> shadeslayer:  yep. :) nvidia docs..  thats the way to go
[21:01] <Lenin_Cat>  how do I upgrade to ext4 wail being on the installation I wish to upgrade
[21:01] <Guest70148> ciao
[21:01] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M wonder what he had
[21:01] <Guest70148> aiuto
[21:02] <tobi> noone using an ipod?
[21:02] <psychic> is there anyway to make a desktop shortcut to firefox?
[21:02] <pepperjack> tobi: i have one what is the question
[21:02] <hateball> kdub1: Yes, thats possible. But you'll need a cd to boot from
[21:02] <shadeslayer> tobi: use banshee for best support imo
[21:02] <konflict> Dr_Willis: I will check that out, thanks!
[21:02] <luigi> cosa ti serve sapere guest70148
[21:02] <Armageddon> tobi: it should work directly when you plug, ubuntu has the program for it
[21:02] <hateball> psychic: rightclick the entry in the menu, choose add to desktop
[21:03] <psychic> hateball thank you
[21:03] <pepperjack> tobi: you have a few options.  1) install rockbox firmware. i did this and prefer it to the more closed apple firmware. 2) ipod is well supported you can run banshee, gtkpod (only one ive used) etc
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> psychic:  or drag/drop from menu to desktop
[21:03] <stefg> konflict: look at /etc/rc.local
[21:03] <maxo> hi
[21:03] <tobi> Armageddon, which programm should it be?! My pod not even pops up on my desk. It's just findable in the MEDIA device!
[21:03] <maxo> I was just wondering whether there was a keyboard shortcut in evolution to mark a message as important?
[21:04] <psychic> hateball that didnt work
[21:04] <tobi> nice pepperjack! thx a lot ... rockbox is more iTunes likely?!
[21:04] <psychic> Dr_Willis neither does drag and drop work
[21:04] <yowshi> god dammit crashed again with an inpput output error
[21:05] <pepperjack> tobi: rockbox is a whole new interface. you can basically using rockbox just drag and drop mp3 files to the ipod no need for itunes. but be careful. maybe make sure you have a windows machine with itunes installed to recover from if necessary
[21:06] <tritium> yowshi: watch the language
[21:06] <guntbert> yowshi: who/what crashed?
[21:06] <pisiq> is there any application to clean trash logs cookies history and those things for ubuntu ?
[21:06] <pepperjack> tobi: the ipod as it is though will work. just need to run banshee or gtkpod whatever you prefer
[21:06] <tobi> pepperjack: that's the point! I'm still using my MS system for syncing my pod ...
[21:06] <kane77> pepperjack, is rockbox better than ipodlinux? I tried that once, but was not able to play anything
[21:07] <yowshi> guntbert: this time is was the gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! xvimagesink command. since i cant bloody find any software that wont crash on me i figured i would use this command and gtk record my desktop to record the window and make a video that way
[21:07] <pepperjack> kane77: more robust.  it works well and is pretty slick. the installer these days takes care of the whole thing no real low level work needed.
[21:07] <tobi> is banshee or gtkpod necessary to get the ipod mounted as a device?
[21:07] <Armageddon> guys is there anyway to download the latest ubuntu updates from the website under another operating system without knowing what update packages i need ? i need them all i just installed the ubuntu amd 64 beta release...
[21:07] <mgmuscari> has anybody heard any acknowledgement from the development community of the problem with ATi cards and Jaunty/Compiz?
[21:07] <kane77> pepperjack, now you got me interested :)
[21:07] <pepperjack> tobi: no only to write new files, play lists etc. the ipod should just mount
[21:08] <yowshi> guntbert: every programme i try to use either crashes or cant get input from the camera
[21:08] <xangua> amd 64 beta Armageddon ¿¿
[21:08] <TonyTheTiger> hi, how can i make sure my ubuntu can handle gfx intensive apps? I have amd xpress 200m gfx chipset in my laptop and I dont know if the drivers are installed for it.
[21:08] <Armageddon> tobi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[21:08] <admin_masu3701> how to have my downloaded files to go automatically to /download? how can i set that up?
[21:08] <tobi> hmmm.... if I install rockbox, I don't need gtkpod nor banshee?!
[21:08] <admin_masu3701> in ubuntu
[21:09] <Armageddon> xangua: im not blessed and born in a country where the conncetion is 600K mine is 10K and i dont have internet most of the time like now
[21:09] <guntbert> yowshi: ah, I didn't know you were talking about video - sorry no experience here for this
[21:09] <pepperjack> TonyTheTiger: lsmod will list the drivers currently loaded.  you can always install tremulous (online fps) as a test :).  or just run glxgears
[21:09] <xangua> Armageddon: then why you don's ask canonical to send you one ¿¿
[21:09] <BigMoopies> does Ubuntu come with e1000e or e1000 driver for NICs?
[21:10] <admin_masu3701> how to have my downloaded files to go automatically to /download? how can i set that up?
[21:10] <pepperjack> BigMoopies: yes
[21:10] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: it doesn't seem like I can use my NIC, it just makes the router light 'twinkle'
[21:10] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: in Ubuntu after Hardy
[21:10] <Armageddon> xangua: i tried with the 8.04, i never got the cd, yes the mail is that shity, i managed to download the jaunty days before its release
[21:10] <mgmuscari> admin_masu3701: that's a firefox setting and it's ubiquitious across all OS's
[21:10] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: IE: Jaunty and Intrepid
[21:10] <guntbert> but yowshi you might get better responses if you describe your problem clearly (like you did in your answer to me) and without swear words :-)
[21:11] <Cammy> Hi
[21:11] <TonyTheTiger> pepperjack, I have set ubuntu to the 3rd option for desktop effects and its running fine, should i assume everything is hunky dory?
[21:11] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: http://hardware4linux.info/component/34798/
[21:11] <xangua> Armageddon: go to the mail office of you comunity, somethimes they will not delivere it jus because is a package from out the country
[21:11] <pepperjack> BigMoopies: does lsmod show it?  maybe rmmod the current module if a diff one is being used and modprobe the one you think it should be.  as a test i often pop in a livecd and run lsmod to find the right module if the nic works
[21:11] <TonyTheTiger> and glxgears works fine too
[21:11] <admin_masu3701> ok
[21:11] <yowshi> guntbert: sorry about that. i am just frustrated i have been trying off and on for a week now and the best i can currently do is get snapshots from it
[21:12] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: i wouldn't know, I didn't install it since it doesn't work.
[21:12] <xangua> Armageddon: here when i live (méxico9 i 've heard that when you go for them they wanted to pay for it
[21:12] <pepperjack> TonyTheTiger: sounds like youre in good shape
[21:12] <xangua> agg my english is awful today
[21:12] <TonyTheTiger> pepperjack, cheers.
[21:12] <Armageddon> xangua: good luck with that :) dude i consider my country a 10th position out of 3 btw
[21:12] <yowshi> guntbert: the most frustrating thing is every time a programme freeze i must reboot before trying any other solutions
[21:12] <Alterios> admin_masu: is the download folder in the root file system or in your home folder?
[21:13] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: how should I go back trying to fix this?
[21:13] <yowshi> does anyone know how to get a device out of the cluthces of a zombied process without rebooting?
[21:13] <jimcooncat> I tried to make a live USB from a live CD, but it's not booting. Could it be because it's a sandisk cruzer?
[21:14] <Armageddon> its ok xangua, your english is still better then a lot i know
[21:14] <guntbert> yowshi: I can understand your frustration, sorry that I'm not able to help - good luck anyway / by "freeze" you mean no keys are working? if you have a 2nd computer you might be able to ssh into the frozen one and kill the offending process
[21:15] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: could I figure out what Hardy has in "lsmod" ? and see if it is different in Juanty and Intrepid ?
[21:15] <_Kendall78> Where is a good tutorial on setting up wpa_supplicant. In particular the wpa_supplicant.conf.
[21:15] <Lenin_Cat> how do I upgrade to ext4
[21:15] <yowshi> guntbert: by when a programme freezes i mean when a programme crashes
[21:15] <yowshi> guntbert: what happens is when a programme accessing the webcam crashes it locks up the webcam and nothign else can use it
[21:15] <yowshi> does anyone know how to get a device out of the cluthces of a zombied process without rebooting?
[21:15] <pepperjack> BigMoopies: that is an option yeah. are you sure it is a driver issue and not dns or a routing problem?
[21:16] <pepperjack> BigMoopies: i found a really good howto on compiling it though it if youre interested: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=551720&page=4
[21:17] <adnc> hello, anytime i type and accidently touch  my touchpanel i do mistakes during typing, there was a nice howto to solve this, could someone please point me to it?
[21:17] <guntbert> yowshi: you could look if that "crashed" program is still active (see man ps) and then kill it (see man kill)
[21:17] <matt> is there a fix for a realtek alc888 soundcard?
[21:18] <yowshi> guntbert: that ius part of the mproblem it is still active. programmes accessing the webcam never actually die at best thet go zombie
[21:18] <tom__> hi
[21:18] <tom__> just install ubuntu on laptop
[21:18] <yowshi> guntbert: but even as zombies they still holt the webcam
[21:18] <tom__> firefox is slow and i havent changed any settings
[21:18] <tom__> any ideas?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> adnc:  i saw some infoon that topic on the 'ubntu acer aspire one wiki page' i think
[21:18] <tom__> rest of the system is fine, just firefox
[21:18] <tom__> machine is dual core
[21:18] <kora> heya, im using jaunty now and have a question about language support: i want to type hiragana (japanese symbols) into text fields, like with windows IME. is there a package that enables me to type those symbols?
[21:19] <adnc> Dr_Willis: unfortunately i can not find it anymore. there is a tool managing this
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> adnc:  theres was an old tool..but X updates/changes made it obsolete for a lot of things
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> !find synaptics
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> adnc:  gsynaptics MIGHT still work
[21:21] <guntbert> yowshi: please read http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/killing-zombie-process.html, but I'm surprised to hear that a zombie still holds the device
[21:22] <yowshi> guntbert: i have already read that
[21:22] <adnc> Dr_Willis: gsynaptics is installed and on my system menu, but there is no option for this behaviour
[21:22] <InjEctOr> i've big problem happends with me now
[21:22] <yowshi> even wierder when i unplug the webcam and plug it back in it doesnt show in dmesg
[21:23] <MHz128> What is the difference between running  apps from "Startup Applications" and rc.local ?
[21:23] <aminh> hey guys when you install postgresql and postgresql-client, doesn't the installation create a 'postgres' linux user?
[21:23] <aminh> it should
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> adnc:  X has changed a lot of things related to the touchpad. theres new tools to tweak those settings. I had some command for the AcerAspireone that would disable the touchpad if you typed.
[21:24] <adnc> Dr_Willis: exact thats the behaviour i would like, but how to enable it for a samsung q45
[21:24] <Lenin_Cat> how do I upgrade to ext4
[21:24] <tobi> pepperjack: my ipod seems to be mounted (I can find it under Media) but amarok, banshee or hipo can not find the pod, an idea?
[21:24] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: you can't, you need to do a clean install
[21:25] <InjEctOr> during upgrading ubuntu the connection had stop , now when trying to reupgrade i encountered this message
[21:25] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, ive read from various sources that you can
[21:25] <InjEctOr> The package 'openssl' is in an inconsistent state and needs to be reinstalled, but no archive can be found for it. Do you want to remove this package now to continue?
[21:25] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: you can't
[21:25] <InjEctOr> any help
[21:25] <guntbert> yowshi: ok - you know then that you can remove a zombie completely by killing its parent - but about the webcam - really no experience here - please ask the channel again - good luck
[21:26] <Lenin_Cat> ikaros, orly google upgrade ext4 jaunty
[21:26] <funkyHat> Lenin_Cat: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ext3-to-ext4-without-formatting-the-hard-disk/2009/04/21 apparently
[21:26] <yowshi> does anyone know how to get a device out of the cluthces of a zombied process without rebooting?
[21:26] <jimcooncat> I tried to make a live USB from a live CD, but it's not booting. Could it be because it's a sandisk cruzer?
[21:26] <stefg> kora: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975144
[21:26] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: if you know how to do it, why are you asking how to do it
[21:28] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, but all the tortuals I find need a unmounted
[21:28] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, Im looking for mounted
[21:28] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: yes, because you need to not have an install it use
[21:28] <olivier_> Hi there ! Is anyone know how to make my tv sound work in 9.04 ? I use a 7134 tv chip and run a p5q3 motherboard
[21:28] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: ext3 is not an online file system
[21:28] <funkyHat> Lenin_Cat: you won't find it. use a live CD
[21:29] <InjEctOr> i'm waiting for help
[21:29] <ikonia> InjEctOr: not seen you ask a question
[21:29] <guntbert> !attitude | InjEctOr
[21:29] <glitsj16> yowshi: i take it you've tried "kill -9" on the zombie ?
[21:30] <adnc> Dr_Willis: could you point me to the wiki page you used
[21:30] <olivier_> I can see there's sound input in the viewmeter related to the tv activity but still no sound output
[21:30] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, you there
[21:30] <admin_masu3701> am having sound problems due to flash player for 2 now...would re-installing the system be a good choice?
[21:30] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: read this
[21:30] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: http://buranen.info/?p=345
[21:30] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: read that line that says "if you want to use ext4 at it's full capability you cannot simpley upgrade"
[21:31] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: as I said - you don't upgrade
[21:31] <gustavo> hola
[21:31] <erUSUL> !es | gustavo
[21:31] <gustavo> alguien en espaòol
[21:31] <paco> hey i need a little bit of help
[21:31] <glitsj16> olivier_: have you tried moving the stream to another output device in that pavucontrol window yet ?
[21:31] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, if you defrag your partition you can
[21:31] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: no
[21:31] <guntbert> !ask | paco
[21:32] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, read the last commend
[21:32] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: I have,
[21:32] <Lenin_Cat> . The online defrag tool will be able to migrate each one of those files to a extent format
[21:32] <InjEctOr> during upgrading ubuntu the connection had stop , now when trying to reupgrade i encountered this message
[21:32] <InjEctOr> The package 'openssl' is in an inconsistent state and needs to be reinstalled, but no archive can be found for it. Do you want to remove this package now to continue?
[21:32] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: it won't work
[21:33] <Lenin_Cat> ikonia, why not?
[21:33] <glitsj16> admin_masu3701: before doing a full reinstall, try removing all flash related packages you have and reinstall those, seems worth a shot
[21:33] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: you'll have to look at the tools for that
[21:33] <yowshi> does anyone know how to get a device out of the cluthces of a zombied process without rebooting?
[21:33]  * sharperguy is pretty disappointed with 9.04...
[21:33] <ikonia> shadesla1er: then don't use it
[21:33] <InjEctOr> glitsj16: I'm newbie, can u give me more details
[21:33] <ikonia> shadesla1er: sorry
[21:34] <shadesla1er> ikonia: no problem :)
[21:34] <ikonia> shadesla1er: don't use it then, there are plenty of options, or explain your problems and we may be able to work through them
[21:34] <shadesla1er> ikonia: again??
[21:34] <olivier_> glitsj16: haven't saw that yet, what do you recommend ? I have an output device that is my TV card, and Now that I've unclicked the 'shield' button, I can see the viewmeter moving accordlingly to the tv, but still no sound
[21:34] <admin_masu3701> glistsj16: how to remve all flash files?
[21:34] <ikonia> shadesla1er: ughh, sorry
[21:34] <sharperguy> ikonia, sha<tab> never works for me btw...
[21:34] <paco> i installed ubuntu 9.04 beta (like a month ago) and i updated the system, but i think something still wrong with my system so i wanted to reinstall ubuntu 9.04  again. If there is like a command to do it (I dont need to make a backup)
[21:34] <shadesla1er> sharperguy: dont use it :P
[21:35] <stroyan> yowshi: A real zombie process is just one that has not been harvested yet by its parent.  It shouldn't be holding any devices open.
[21:35] <hittt> paco: no
[21:35] <john> is this a help channel?
[21:35] <sharperguy> ikonia, anyway it's just the general changes across the board seem to irritate me more than anything. I'm going to upgrade anyway it's just irritating
[21:35] <hittt> john: yes
[21:35] <kevman86> hi everyone
[21:35] <paco> so i have to download the iso file
[21:35] <th0r> paco: when you reinstall just tell the installation to format the partition
[21:35] <Guest50971> ok im new to ubuntu
[21:35] <Guest50971> and i cant get any sound to work
[21:35] <hittt> yes
[21:35] <hittt> is there a netinstall?
[21:35] <stroyan> yowshi: If you kill the parent process of a zombie then the zombie should be adopted by the init process, pid 1, and harvested right away.
[21:36] <erUSUL> !install | hittt
[21:36] <jrib> !minimal | hittt
[21:36] <hittt> D:
[21:36] <Guest50971> anyone know how to fix?
[21:36] <stefg> paco: the actual installer (ubiquity) is not in the installed system. So just get a release CD and do a normal install (possibly using a USB thumb drive which is much quicker)
[21:36] <glitsj16> admin_masu3701: if you have synaptic open, do a search for "flash", "gnash", "swfdec" and se what you have there ... it should only take flashplugin-nonfree to have a working plugin
[21:36] <_CommandeR_> Hi, anyone here with an Creative Card ?
[21:37] <yowshi> stroyan: this isnt happening though and the process holds onto the /dev/video0 device
[21:37] <paco> hmmmm ok
[21:37] <engemec> Hello everybody
[21:37] <Guest22184> ciao sono riuscito a ripristinare il pannello in alto ma quando provo a sloggare mi da questo rrore
[21:37] <erUSUL> !it | Guest22184
[21:37] <Slart> _CommandeR_: please type !anyone here in the channel
[21:37] <olivier_> glitsj16: no idea ?
[21:37] <engemec> I installed Ubuntu 9.04 remix on a eeepc Asus 701
[21:37] <engemec> Perfect
[21:37] <paco> yes i know with a usb stick is easier, but my bios doesnt recognize usb :s
[21:37] <_CommandeR_> Hi, anyone here with an Creative Card ? [Problem is] that when i use my microphone both input and output of the microphone are linked so I always hear myself speak :(
[21:38] <stefg> !sbm | paco
[21:38] <abi2346> hello?
[21:38] <glitsj16> olivier_: looking at your former messages, hang on please
[21:38] <stefg> !boot | paco
[21:38] <olivier_> lol sorry
[21:38] <FluxD> Is there a way to get the external ip through ssh?
[21:38] <paco> and my cdrom is broken hahaha so i will have to do a netboot install
[21:38] <Slart> _CommandeR_: that's a slider in the volume control..
[21:38] <InjEctOr> my question: how can I reinstall open ssl
[21:38] <InjEctOr> i see this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1143212&page=2
[21:38] <InjEctOr> so i tried to do the same with openssl by typing this command
[21:38] <InjEctOr> sudo apt-get --reinstall openssl
[21:38] <InjEctOr> result :
[21:38] <InjEctOr> E: Invalid operation openssll
[21:38] <FloodBot1> InjEctOr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <stroyan> yowshi: If a process is unkillable with open files/devices, then I would blame the device file first.  The process is likely to be stuck waiting for the device to complete a close().
[21:38] <stefg> paco: try the smart boot manager
[21:38] <sharperguy> _CommandeR_, just mute the microphone bit in playback
[21:38] <engemec> But, after update the system... the erro on acpi don't work, i can remove acpi controler and put the older version!
[21:38] <barranqueroo> buenas
[21:39] <_CommandeR_> Slart, sharperguy. But when i speak in eg Teamspeak i want them to hear me and also not hearing myself ..
[21:39] <barranqueroo> instale ubuntu y ahora windows necesito recuperar el grub
[21:39] <adnc> is it necessary to enable SHMconfig in xorg.conf. there is so less in this config file that i think the whole is managed somehow different
[21:39] <Slart> _CommandeR_: in the playback tab you have a slider called microphone or front mic or similar.. mute that
[21:39] <hateball> !es | barranqueroo
[21:39] <yowshi> stroyan: well the device is a cheap webcam i dont think it has that kind of thin in it
[21:39] <barranqueroo> use el super grub pero no me aparece ningun menu sino una linea de comandos
[21:39] <erUSUL> !grub | barranqueroo
[21:39] <sharperguy> _CommandeR_, keep the volume up but mute it
[21:39] <abi2346> hello? I posted a topic on ubuntu forum, but it got buried with no responses.
[21:40] <abi2346> i wonder if anyone can help me?
[21:40] <abi2346> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1149801
[21:40] <glitsj16> olivier_: are you taking about the pulseaudio viewmeter ? if so, that indicates pulseaudio is getting something, try opening "pavucontrol" and moving the output stream to another device to see if you can get output somewhere
[21:40] <shadeslayer> _CommandeR_: xfi ??
[21:40] <Slart> _CommandeR_: there is a slider in the "recording" tab.. that controls the sound that is recorded and sent to others via teamspeak.. the microphone slider on the "playback" tab controls how much of the microphone sound that is played back to you
[21:40] <MeXTuX> What does mean "%U" at the end of a launcher's command attribute ????
[21:40] <InjEctOr> how can i reinstall openssl
[21:40] <paco> so i guess i will make a netboot install
[21:40] <_CommandeR_> Slart, sharperguy. [Creative X-FI Elite Pro]
[21:41] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22333666-Networking-Linux-support-Networking-error
[21:41] <surfingjester> abi2346 what is your graphics card?
[21:41] <Slart> _CommandeR_: oh.. a x-fi.. well.. you're on your own then
[21:41] <Lenin_Cat> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage. <-- should I ignore this warning?
[21:41] <crdlb> MeXTuX: A list of URLs. Each URL is passed as a separate argument to the executable program. Local files may either be passed as file: URLs or as file path.
[21:41] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: That is what I was told to try by them
[21:41] <yowshi> stroyan: infact even when unplugged the cameramonitor says it is on so something is really fragging up somewhere
[21:41] <stroyan> yowshi: If the webcam is USB device you may be able to unplug and plug it in the release the processes.
[21:41] <_CommandeR_> Slart, sharperguy. When i mute playback microphone the microphone also mutes..
[21:41] <Slart> Lenin_Cat: does it sound like a warning that should be ignored? =)
[21:41] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: I tried turning on DHCP at the router, and using it like a real router.
[21:41] <shadeslayer> _CommandeR_: i found a forum for someone recently if you can find that,it worked for him
[21:41] <BigMoopies> pepperjack: with it just twinkling like it was a switch too
[21:41] <arvernes> using ftp I would like to pick up the full iso image of jaunty. Is there a place where I can grab it ? I downloaded an iso image, but it is not a full distro as this image is just 750megas
[21:42] <crdlb> MeXTuX: from: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html#exec-variables
[21:42] <hittt> Lenin_cat: unmount unmount unmount
[21:42] <_CommandeR_> shadeslayer, hm
[21:42] <paco> the reason i want to reinstall ubuntu is because i think there are some problems with my graphic card software, but i cant find a way to fix it
[21:42] <ar> hello?
[21:42] <Lenin_Cat> hittt, I cant its my / :P
[21:42] <stroyan> yowshi: If there is a kernel module loaded for handling the webcam then you may be able to use "sudo modprobe -r modname" to release the resources.
[21:42] <erUSUL> arvernes: ubuntu isos are 700MB so you can burn it on any CD-R
[21:42] <hittt> Lenin_Cat, then boot from live cd :P
[21:42] <jawall> How do you create a recovery DVDROM of your Ubuntu Install?
[21:42] <Slart> _CommandeR_: I don't know how good the support for x-fi is in jaunty.. it was almost nonexistant in previous versions of ubuntu.. or any linux flavour really
[21:42] <jawall> including all the configs..
[21:42] <shadeslayer> _CommandeR_: im pretty sure about this,just google,i found it easily back then
[21:42] <hateball> !clone | jawall
[21:42] <Slart> Lenin_Cat: then boot from a live cd and run it from there
[21:42] <quilby> can someone help me with the gnu join command at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/826812/combining-2-csv-files-by-common-column
[21:43] <Lenin_Cat> hittt, but if I upgrade to ext4 I need to upgrade grub
[21:43] <surfingjester> abi2346: what is your graphics card?
[21:43] <hittt> yes
[21:43] <Slart> Lenin_Cat: but never run fsck on a live, mounted partition
[21:43] <paco> ati radeon 9200
[21:43] <jerbear> i've installed jaunty from the alternate disc. i can't get the login screen to come up (just black screen) after the loading screen comes up. anyone have any ideas?
[21:43] <hateball> jawall: Clonezilla is an easy way to create recovery cd's
[21:43] <yowshi> stroyan: how do i find the mod name?
[21:43] <stroyan> yowshi: Learning more about any associated module could also be helpful for understanding or avoiding the hangs.  There may be known problems with a module.  Or you may be able to get better behavior by adding module parameters.
[21:43] <InjEctOr> how to reinstall openssl
[21:44] <hittt> jerbear, does shell work?
[21:44] <surfingjester> abi2346: losing my patience man...
[21:44] <yowshi> stroyan: yeah but how do i find out if there is a module and what it's name is?
[21:44] <Slart> InjEctOr: sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server, I think
[21:44] <engemec> acpi erro on Ubuntu 9.04 after update. Anybody have an ideia?
[21:44] <stroyan> yowshi: Running lsmod before and after plugging in the device may show the difference.  Or looking at the /var/log/syslog lines when the device is first plugged ing.
[21:44] <jerbear> hittt: i can't do anything, including switch to a virtual terminal
[21:44] <olivier_> glitsj16: I think I was in the pulseaudio viewmeter, but now I see the viewmeter of pavucontrol, which activated once I've unclicked the 'shield' button in front of each saa7134 device (PCM,Analog, and monitor of Analog). What do you mean 'moving the output stream to another device' ? I don't see how to do that in pavucontrol.
[21:45] <stroyan> yowshi: And, of course, you can google for the device and what other folks have said about configuring it with the same release.
[21:45] <amikof> i insert an audio disc and i cant find his path through the terminal. where is it usually located?
[21:45] <SliMM> hello
[21:45] <surfingjester> abi2346: nevermind, may your question go forever unanswered.
[21:45] <MHz128> what is the VM software called for ubuntu?
[21:45] <lvlefisto> I was doing a top to see what was going on, and I noticed chipcard4 with chipcard user, Is my computer compromised?
[21:45] <hittt> jerbear, can you see the boot post during boot? press Crtl+alt+f8 i think
[21:45] <SliMM> I have an ubuntu server 8.04 with lamp
[21:46] <abi2346> SliMM, wait ur turn
[21:46] <hateball> !virtual | MHz128
[21:46] <SliMM> I have a problem with apache not taking into consideration my .htaccess file
[21:46] <InjEctOr> @slart, thanks for reply ... the problem still
[21:46] <abi2346> i am been waiting for like an hour now
[21:46] <paco> it is really good idea to change to ext4?
[21:46] <InjEctOr> result: sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[21:46] <amikof> i insert an audio disc and i cant find his path through the terminal. where is it usually located?
[21:46] <sebsebseb> paco: depends
[21:46] <glitsj16> olivier_: there's a small dropdown indicator next to the un/mute symbol of each playback item, it offers a 'move stream' option
[21:46] <jerbear> hittt: like i said, i can't switch to any virtual terminals
[21:46] <InjEctOr> result * : abonajm@4boNajm-h0m3:/$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssl-server
[21:46] <InjEctOr> Reading package lists... Done
[21:46] <InjEctOr> Building dependency tree
[21:46] <InjEctOr> Reading state information... Done
[21:46] <InjEctOr> E: The package openssl needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[21:46] <FloodBot1> InjEctOr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <SliMM> abi2346: well, it's a matter of luck
[21:47] <hittt> jerbear, can you somehow see the log files?
[21:47] <jerbear> hittt: i can't do anything
[21:47] <patx> whta plugin to do i need to watch /wmv vids in firefox?
[21:47] <olivier_> glitsj16: noticed that already, but there no other entry in this menu than "Default'
[21:47] <hittt> via live cd
[21:47] <hittt> or smthg
[21:48] <olivier_> glitsj16:and any other drop downs by the way
[21:48] <patx> what plugin to do i need to watch .wmv vids in firefox?
[21:48] <glitsj16> olivier_: that's possible indeed, was hoping you had some of those virtual devices in there for pulseaudio, sorry
[21:48] <progre55> Hi everybody! please help out. while playing CS, after I quit the game, my computer hangs.. I can move the mouse pointer, but no keys, nothing else works. what might be the problem?
[21:48] <hittt> jerbear, remove "quiet" from boot options, and see it
[21:49] <olivier_> glitsj16: nothing I can do so ?
[21:49] <Matr|X> hello plz help me
[21:49] <NetEcho> does Ubuntu server edition install a gui by default?
[21:49] <surfingjester> netecho: no
[21:49] <NetEcho> good
[21:49] <NetEcho> :D
[21:49] <Matr|X> im trying to configerrdesktop
[21:49] <glitsj16> olivier_: i take it you've already tried stopping all audio apps and restarting pulseaudio ?
[21:49] <Matr|X> but give me error
[21:49] <hittt> !ask | Matr|x
[21:49] <InjEctOr> if i install openssl manually so i'll solve the prob ?
[21:49] <Matr|X> neo@xob:~/Desktop/rdesktop-1.4.1$ ./configure
[21:49] <Matr|X> checking for gcc... gcc
[21:49] <Matr|X> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[21:49] <Matr|X> See `config.log' for more details.
[21:49] <FloodBot1> Matr|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:49] <Matr|X> what is the problem
[21:49] <paco> hey does anybody knows where can i find the archives for a netboot install ubuntu jaunty
[21:50] <paco> ?¡
[21:50] <skullhacks> I updated my Ubuntu!
[21:50] <patx> what plugin to do i need to watch .wmv vids in firefox?
[21:50] <Matr|X> helloooooooooooooo
[21:50] <Matr|X> i need help
[21:50] <skullhacks> hi
[21:50] <unop> Matr|X,  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[21:50] <Matr|X> ok
[21:51] <olivier_> I don't have any audio apps running except tvtime, which is supposed to control the saa7134 audio output
[21:51] <Slart> olivier_: you might have the pulseaudio daemon running in the background.. not sure if that can mess things up
[21:51] <glitsj16> patx: i believe the mozilla-mplayer package has wmv support for firefox
[21:51] <surfingjester> paco: working on it
[21:51] <DragonLinux> anyone have any luck getting the new ubuntu to work under vmware? i know i had to do a bunch of tinkering with vmware tools to get it to run in 8.1
[21:52] <Gandhi> ( Ubuntu 9.04)  I've been trying to connect to a WEP wireless network using an 802.11b/g usb adaptor, and failing. From what I gather, it seems it may be unsupported. I was wondering if there are any ways to force it to work. Alternatively, I have a laptop running xubuntu which does work with the wireless adaptor. Could I, perhaps, connect the laptop to the wireless network and this computer and connect to the internet that
[21:52] <InjEctOr> can i solve this prob "E: The package openssl needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." by install openssl package manually ? .. and thanks
[21:52] <olivier_> glitsj16: you suggest I should stop pulseaudio ? would I have sound though ?
[21:52] <paco> thanks
[21:52] <marcelo_> ola
[21:52] <proq> !xen
[21:52] <KB1JWQ> Gandhi: The former requires more information than you've given.
[21:52] <Slart> InjEctOr: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[21:52] <InjEctOr> so can i solve* .........
[21:52] <marcelo_> ola
[21:52] <InjEctOr> 8.10
[21:52] <KB1JWQ> The latter is pretty simple. Just make sure you turn on ip forwarding in the kernel
[21:52] <Gandhi> KB1JWQ: What extra info do you need?
[21:52] <proq> hrm... that xen page is a few years old
[21:52] <glitsj16> olivier_: like Slart says, there could be a running pulseaudio daemon that's bogged down , try "killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -D" to restart it
[21:52] <marcelo_> tem  eu
[21:52] <marcelo_> kkkkkk
[21:52] <InjEctOr> and the prob happends during upgrade to ubuntu 9.04
[21:52] <Slart> !english | marcelo_
[21:53] <marcelo_> brasil
[21:53] <godecki> Hello, I have got some weird looking QT-windows after upgrading to jaunty.
[21:53] <KB1JWQ> Gandhi: AMong other things, the model number, the driver it's using-- and I don't have the facilities to test that, so you'd be dependant upon someone else.
[21:53] <stefg> !br
[21:53] <tom__> hell
[21:53] <tom__> hello
[21:53] <marcelo_> ok
[21:53] <InjEctOr> @Slart can i talk with ya private
[21:53] <glitsj16> olivier_: i wouldn't go down the route of removing pulseaudio just yet, see what a restart does first
[21:53] <Slart> InjEctOr: hmm. are your repositories setup alright? I doubt the openssh server has been removed
[21:53] <Slart> InjEctOr: sure
[21:54] <RoosterJuice> what is the command for deleting a directory and all containing files?
[21:54] <InjEctOr> thanks man
[21:54] <hittt_> rm -rf
[21:54] <Gandhi> KB1JWQ: Hmm. I'm in windows right now so I couldn't tell you anything about the drivers, except that it's a fresh instal of Ubuntu 9.04/
[21:54] <Slart> RoosterJuice: rm -r  might add a -f to cut down on the "are you sure you want to delete this"
[21:54] <olivier_> Slart, Glitsj16: pulseaudio restarted, to no avail
[21:54] <godecki> Any text in an QT-window looks smeared
[21:55] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi! I have a really annoying printing problem.. if I have a document that contains both portrait and landscape pages, all landscapes are printed on portrait and cut at the right side... no matter if its OpenOffice or Adobe Reader... its visible in the Adobe Reader print dialog: http://sv.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2qmks50&s=5
[21:55] <glitsj16> olivier_: too bad, i don't know anything on tvtime to be able to offer any real help there i'm afraid
[21:55] <surfingjester> paco: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ is that what you're looking for?
[21:55] <godecki> Any hints so far?
[21:55] <yowshi> who was it i was just talking to?
[21:56] <Slart> yowshi: might have been stroyan
[21:56] <Gandhi> KB1JWQ: As for the wireless USB adaptor, it's a LM Technologies IEE 802.11b/g wireless USB adaptor model LM-001
[21:56] <paco> surfingjester: yes, thanks a lot
[21:57] <yowshi> ah stroyan apparently it isnt one module but a few modules
[21:57] <surfingjester> paco: no problems
[21:57] <olivier_> I'm sure tvime isn't the problem, it's how to redirect correctly the sound input from the tvcard - which I can see on various viewmeters actually flowing - to the sound system (or the tv card analog sound output btw)
[21:57] <skullhacks> hey!
[21:57] <skullhacks> I updated my Ubuntu!
[21:57] <sillon> yo también
[21:57] <KB1JWQ> skullhacks: Congrats, have a cookie.
[21:57] <skullhacks> It take 3 hours
[21:57] <KB1JWQ> !english | sillon
[21:57] <Slart> !es | sillon
[21:58] <KB1JWQ> skullhacks: Depends upon what you've got running, an what hardware it's on.
[21:58] <skullhacks> I have great hardware
[21:59] <mzz> jimius: maybe!
[21:59] <mzz> jimius: sorry, wrong nick!
[21:59] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: maybe!
[21:59] <KB1JWQ> skullhacks: Okay, I've done it in under 30 minutes.  So either something's significantly different, or your hardware's not as great as you think it is.
[21:59] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, lol
[21:59] <tom__> in ubuntu, at the top where the menu is system
[21:59] <skullhacks> Overclocking, 2GB of RAM, 500GB of memory in harddrive.
[21:59] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, well no luck, i am stuck in low gfx mode
[21:59] <amikof> can u give me a command to extract wav files from audio cd?
[21:59] <tom__> how can i remove some of the options such as help and support,about gnome etc
[21:59] <jimi_hendrix> i am going to try to upgrade to jaunty again...i had better support without fglrx installed there
[22:00] <tom__> how can i remove some of the options such as help and support,about gnome etc
[22:00] <stroyan> yowshi: I suggest you google for the most device-specific module name you see.  Look for similar problems and parameter setting fixes.  Also look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO/#DRIVER-INTRO
[22:00] <skullhacks> I have a AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
[22:00] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: remind me what the actual problem was please. Iirc your Xorg.0.log looked sane (not like "low graphics mode") but some operations were unusually slow?
[22:00] <skullhacks> i think its right
[22:00] <olivier_> Slart, glitsj16:I'm sure tvime isn't the problem, it's how to redirect correctly the sound input from the tvcard - which I can see on various viewmeters actually flowing - to the sound system (or the tv card analog sound output btw)
[22:00] <jerbear> hittt_: yeh, i'm able to get into a shell now
[22:00] <mzz> jimi_hendrix: yes, with not extremely recent radeons you want the open driver in jaunty but possibly the closed one in pre-jaunty ubuntu
[22:00] <hittt_> jerbear: good
[22:00] <Slart> olivier_: I've never really messed with tvtime.. don't know how to fix it
[22:00] <tom__> in ubuntu, at the top where the menu is system
[22:01] <tom__> how can i remove some of the options such as help and support,about gnome etc
[22:01] <Slart> tom__: right click on the gnome menu thingy.. select "Edit menu"..
[22:01] <jimi_hendrix> mzz, radeon hd mobiltiy 3470
[22:01] <yowshi> stroyan:  v4l1_compat would probably be my culprit that and videodev which uses it
[22:02] <skullhacks> Random phrase: I have to buy new speakers. (really)
[22:02] <patx> how do i play .mpg movies with firefox?
[22:02] <skullhacks> get the ubuntu add-on for firefox
[22:02] <olivier_> Slart: but you might know about ubuntu sound system ? I do think it's the core of the problem here
[22:02] <glitsj16> olivier_: well, that redirection was what i proposed to check earlier, only thing i could find is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723618
[22:03] <skullhacks> patx: I dont have problems to play any kind of movie with Firefox. Try adding the Ubuntu Add-on
[22:03] <yowshi> stroyan: also i dont know which to put for my own find /lib/mpodules since it doesnt tell you how they knew they were looking for ibmcam
[22:03] <Slart> olivier_: you mean pulseaudio? well... try installing "pavucontrol" then run it from a terminal.. let me know when you've done that
[22:03] <pepperjack> patx: i prefer the mplayer plugin but alot of people use totem of course
[22:04] <tlyng> Hello, I've gotten some problems after I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04. First of all the Intel GMA drivers where terrible atm, so I installed a backport of an earlier version. Seems to work ok. Now I'm trying to get picture on my external monitor. GDM is shown on both monitors when it launches, but when I log in to my desktop the external monitor is turned of, no matter what I set in the display properties. Anyone got any suggestions?
[22:05] <xangua> pepperjack: yeah mplayer/gecko plugin for mozilla is better
[22:05] <KB1JWQ> tlyng: What does the X log show?
[22:05] <tim__> sup fuckers
[22:05] <glitsj16> skullhacks: i don't think the ubuntu firefox modifications offer any plugin to play media
[22:05] <stroyan> yowshi: With current distributions the module is found by udev.  You can see how it reacted by looking in /var/log/udev.
[22:06] <[S]Killed> Yes :)
[22:06] <[S]Killed> hi people :)
[22:06] <[S]Killed> Ok, my mouse freezed without any reason
[22:06] <[S]Killed> and i got no sound
[22:06] <yowshi> stroyan: that assumes i will know how to read what i see in udev
[22:06] <[S]Killed> using Ubuntu 9.04 in a HP dv7 !
[22:06] <glitsj16> patx: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer", that offers support for almost all regular media types in firefox
[22:07] <[S]Killed> and i can't install my Sagem Fast 800 on my Ubuntu 9.04 :/
[22:07] <patx> ok
[22:07] <nb72> So as the owner of an ATI Xpress series video card, am I correct that I basically can't upgrade to 9.04?  Looks like ATI has left me in the lurch and the open source driver isn't quite there yet.  That sound about right?
[22:07] <olivier_> Slart: DOne with glitsj16 already, I can see in pavucontrol the viewmeter moving from the tv sound (it increases or decreases according to the scenes on the tv window) but there is no sound
[22:07] <tlyng> KB1JWQ: I can't see any errors in Xorg.log, when GDM start up I do see a mirrored image on my external monitor. It's when I log into the account it's turned off.
[22:07] <xangua> glitsj16  patx is better  gecko-mediaplayer , at least it look better in Gnome
[22:08] <KB1JWQ> tlyng: Could try pastebinning that log.
[22:08] <KB1JWQ> SOMETHING's switching off output to it.
[22:08] <pepperjack> nb72: i really like the opensource driver for 2d stuff.  much prefer it for 2d than the nvidia driver in fact but for 3d .. possibly
[22:08] <crdlb> nb72: only if you find the open source driver insufficient
[22:08] <Slart> olivier_: next to the moving thingy there is a button with a downarrow.. press it, select "move stream".. see how many choices you've got there.. try a few.. see if you get any sound
[22:08] <glitsj16> xangua: sorry, thought patx was looking for media support in firefox instead of the desktop
[22:08] <tlyng> KB1JWQ: ok
[22:09] <olivier_> Slart: done that already. the only choice I have is 'Default'. What does that mean ??
[22:09] <[S]Killed> I've finally install my Ubuntu 9.04 on my hp dv7, after that i've try to install Sagem fast 800 but no succes, after reboot my Mouse refuse to move, and i got no sound too, can anybody help !
[22:09] <yowshi> stroyan: how do i find my specific device in this udev mess of machine names numbers and crap
[22:09] <amikof> if i go sound-jucier and extract files its ok . i want to do it through the terminal. but i cant find the path to m dvd device
[22:09] <nb72> crdlb: ya, I can't watch video with the open source drivers.  its' too choppy even in vlc (old laptop).
[22:10] <box02> Hello
[22:10] <nb72> By the way, whoever put the warning into the upgrade is fricken awesome.
[22:10] <stroyan> yowshi: Look for the matching module name.  Or watch a 'tail -f' of a logfile when you plug the device in.
[22:10] <Pudgy> q
[22:10] <Slart> olivier_: if you have more than one soundcard you get different options there.. I have three soundcards, one goes to the stereo, one to the headphones and one to the computer speakers.. I can select where I want a certain program's audio to be played.. very convenient when it works
[22:10] <amikof> if i go sound-jucier and extract files its ok . i want to do it through the terminal. but i cant find the path to m dvd device
[22:10] <Slart> olivier_: but since you've only got one soundcard there's not a lot you can change there
[22:11] <box02> please someone could explean me what is non-native debian packge.
[22:11] <crdlb> nb72: well, it's significantly better in jaunty than in intrepid
[22:11] <sebsebseb> box02: sure  I guess
[22:11] <Dreamglider> what's a good midi synth for ubuntu/debian ?
[22:11] <sebsebseb> box02: some Debs are made for Debian and others are made for Ubuntu
[22:11] <[S]Killed> I've finally install my Ubuntu 9.04 on my hp dv7, after that i've try to install Sagem fast 800 but no succes, after reboot my Mouse refuse to move, and i got no sound too, can anybody help !
[22:11] <inuyasha3331> <.<
[22:11] <tlyng> KB1JWQ: http://paste.org/7003
[22:11] <crdlb> nb72: but it would be advisable to test it with a livecd before considering an upgrade
[22:12] <box02> @sebsebseb .. so what is depend on?
[22:12] <nb72> crdlb:  Thanks for the info.
[22:12] <DasEi> [S]Killed: open aterminal ..
[22:12] <sebsebseb> box02: they tend to say
[22:12] <sebsebseb> box02: this is an Ubuntu DEB this is a Debian DEB
[22:12] <sebsebseb> !debian
[22:12] <[S]Killed> DasEi how can i do this without mouse ?
[22:12] <[S]Killed> :/
[22:12] <olivier_> Slart: I do have only one sound card, but there is also the tv card, which has its own analog and digital output (this last one is through the pci).So far, I can see only one entry in the drop down thingy you mentioned, and it's 'Default'
[22:13] <DasEi> [S]Killed: alt+F2, gnome-terminal
[22:13] <yowshi> stroyan: and what do i do if none of the modules listed in lsmod that appeared when i plugged in my camera are in there?
[22:13] <[S]Killed> yes and after that ?
[22:13] <NetEcho> why does the server .iso say -amd64?
[22:13] <box02> @sebsebseb so if I package a debian package for Debain and Ubuntu, I can make native debian package?
[22:13] <Slart> olivier_: yup.. that means that there's only one soundcard as far as pulseaudio is concerned.. not sure if your creative card is recognized though.. that might be the problem
[22:13] <DasEi> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg_broken
[22:13] <sebsebseb> box02: no
[22:13] <sebsebseb> box02: not quite
[22:14] <box02> @seb3 aha
[22:14] <DasEi> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg_broken, [S]Killed
[22:14] <[S]Killed> DasEi ok i'll test it
[22:14] <[S]Killed> DasEi that's all ?
[22:14] <box02> @seb3 so I should rather make non-debian package, right?
[22:14] <crdlb> NetEcho: why shouldn't it? there should be an i386 version too
[22:14] <NetEcho> I went to Server Edition and selected a mirror
[22:14] <DasEi> [S]Killed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[22:14] <pepperjack> NetEcho: because its the 64 bit version of ubuntu.  often by default on the download page it selects 64 bit. youll need to select the i386
[22:15] <NetEcho> ah
[22:15] <NetEcho> thats kinda annoying
[22:15] <glitsj16> olivier_: have you tried asking on pulseaudio irc yet ? http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/Community has the address
[22:15] <pepperjack> NetEcho: yes
[22:15] <stroyan> yowshi: I would just go back to googling for the device and module names to look for similar problems.  The udev thing is not central to fixing your problems.
[22:15] <inuyasha3331> FUCK
[22:15] <[S]Killed> DasEi Ok ... and ?
[22:15] <inuyasha3331> FUCK
[22:15] <FloodBot1> inuyasha3331: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:15] <DasEi> [S]Killed: restart x now, try again
[22:15] <NetEcho> well atleast I can download at 1.8MB/s
[22:15] <crdlb> NetEcho: are you sure your hardware isn't 64 bit?
[22:15] <DasEi> [S]Killed: log in/out
[22:15] <box02> @sebsebseb .. so I should rather make non-debian package, right?
[22:15] <yowshi> stroyan: it seems to be central to finding what i need to knwo so i can fix my problems that makes it semi central
[22:15] <[S]Killed> Ok DasEi, and for my Sagem have u and idea ?
[22:16] <NetEcho> crdlb very sure,
[22:16] <DasEi> [S]Killed: modem ?
[22:16] <olivier_> Slart: I'm looking for the right channel, I began here but I will look for pulseaudio dedicated channels
[22:16] <yowshi> stroyan: i dont even know what to google for at this point
[22:16] <[S]Killed> DasEi YEs sagem fast 800
[22:16] <NetEcho> crdlb its my laptop, running a Centrino Core Duo
[22:16] <sebsebseb> box02: you can make tar.gz  and that works on like everything
[22:16] <sebsebseb> box02: I think
[22:16] <sebsebseb> !ppa > box02
[22:16] <pisiq> how can i crypt a text with gcc ? what's the command ?
[22:16] <Slart> olivier_: haven't seen many of those around.. don't think I've seen any at all, unfortunately..
[22:17] <DasEi> [S]Killed:we can try it, first check if you got periphals back
[22:17] <stroyan> yowshi: You said that there seemed to be several modules related to plugging in the device google for them and the device's name.
[22:17] <[S]Killed> DasEi roger that Sir !
[22:17] <tsimpson> pisi: gcc is a C compiler, for help with C join ##c
[22:17] <mzz> pisiq: do you mean gpg?
[22:17] <box02> @sebsebseb thank you.
[22:17] <[S]Killed> DasEi i will be back in a few minutes
[22:17] <yowshi> stroyan: by device i assume you mean the name of my camera found in lsusb?
[22:17] <Algyz> Hi, can anybody remind me a name of a program to view internet connections graphically as a web?
[22:17] <box02> @ubottu yes I will
[22:17] <pisiq> mzz yes
[22:17] <Slart> olivier_: does your creative card work for other applications?
[22:17] <pisiq> what was the command ?
[22:17] <mzz> pisiq: iirc gpg --encrypt path/to/file
[22:18] <inuyasha3331> <.<
[22:18] <mzz> (which interactively asks you about keys to use)
[22:18] <stroyan> yowshi: Yes.  The lsusb name is the most reliable one.
[22:18] <pisiq> mzz it displays the ecrypted password ?
[22:18] <pisiq> i mean text
[22:18] <timostk> anyone here have experience installing ubuntu (preferably jaunty) on an eebox?
[22:18] <mzz> pisiq: I was assuming you meant encrypt. Do you mean decrypt?
[22:18] <mudassar> hello, i m getting problem playing youtube video in ubuntu 9.04. The movie either runs faster and music stays behind or there is no picture and only music
[22:18] <mzz> pisiq: to decrypt just "gpg /path/to/file"
[22:18] <sebsebseb> box02: altough PPA
[22:19] <sebsebseb> box02: hold on
[22:19] <DasEi> timostk: I haven't, but there is an extra version for it
[22:19] <pepperjack> mudassar: go to about:plugins in firefox make sure you are using the adobe plugin and not the free one
[22:19] <wolter> is anybody getting a lot of crashing from pidgin in jaunty?
[22:19] <box02> @sebsebseb yes
[22:19] <GleepGlop> my boot is taking a long time. can someone explain this output from udev via dmesg? http://pastebin.com/m63becc23
[22:19] <DasEi> wolter: nope
[22:19] <sebsebseb> box02: ok  I am going to pm you another channel, where a guy knows better about this then me
[22:19] <timostk> DasEi, thank you
[22:19] <avuton> Cheese won't work until I sudo it, any ideas how to fix it? (user is already part of video/audio groups)
[22:19] <timostk> will look into it
[22:20] <box02> @sebsebseb thank you so much :)
[22:20] <olivier_> slart: saa7134 is a creative chip ? If so, it is not used by other apps than tvtime.
[22:20] <roule01010> Hey guys. Can i set up xterm so that background is white, foreground is black, AND putting my cursor over eg. green text does not change it to green?
[22:20] <DasEi> !eee > timostk
[22:20] <Slart> olivier_: nope... that's the tvtime card (if google is correct)
[22:20] <wolter> nobody?
[22:21] <yowshi> stroyan: ah ha hmmmm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471726 this seems to be for redhat but i think it is the cause of my problem
[22:21] <CyberScript32> alguem pode me ajudar ?
[22:21] <wolter> i get a lot of crashes while using bonjour
[22:21] <scraipt_brasil> got brazilian ?
[22:21] <Slart> !br
[22:21] <LjL> !br
[22:21] <Flare183> !br
[22:21] <scraipt_brasil> "br
[22:21] <scraipt_brasil> !br
[22:21] <yowshi> stroyan: though i dont understand the solution being presented in comment 4
[22:21] <scraipt_brasil> help-me ?
[22:21] <Flare183> wow rush
[22:21] <Slart> scraipt_brasil: type /join #ubuntu-br
[22:22] <scraipt_brasil> [Slart]: thanks
[22:22] <Slart> Flare183: well.. if you want the helper-cookie you have to be fast =)
[22:22]  * Flare183 tells LjL and Slart, "Good job"
[22:22] <Flare183> Slart: Yeah, I know
[22:22] <Flare183> Today is my day to help peo[ple
[22:23] <Flare183> people*
[22:23] <Flare183> als,cddddddk.la
[22:23] <Flare183> oops
[22:23] <a_c_m1> evenin all
[22:23] <GleepGlop> i'm seeing a ton of these at boot: [  102.778150] usb 6-1: device descriptor read/64, error -11
[22:23] <pisiq> mzz: is not working, i mean to crypt a word, lets say hello it was a command like : gcc -c hello; and then it was displaying me the ecrypted word that worked like a password too. so if i set my password Hello and i copy/paste the ecrypted word that looks like this f$&7* works
[22:23] <Flare183> GleepGlop: That means that something in your USB port isn't working correctly
[22:23] <roule01010> Can i set up xterm so that background is white, foreground is black, AND putting my cursor over eg. green text does not change it to green?
[22:23] <olivier_> Slart : I have no creative car? According to lspci the TV card is : Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)
[22:23] <Flare183> GleepGlop: or isn't plugined in all the way
[22:24] <DasEi> GleepGlop: using an external usb drive ?
[22:24] <Darklegion> login Darklegion deathnote?.360
[22:24] <GleepGlop> Flare183: I'm not getting erros from Arch Linux on same hardware
[22:24] <GleepGlop> errors*
[22:24] <Flare183> GleepGlop: Try putting the device in sideways
[22:24] <Slart> olivier_: ahh.. sorry.. got you mixed up with another person.. my bad.. so sorry
[22:24] <stroyan> yowshi: It says you have a wonderful new shiny kernel without that hacked functionality the old one implemented. ;-)  So you should force a shared library to be loaded by your video apps to shim in the function in user-space.
[22:24]  * Flare183 has to do that with his MicroSD card reader
[22:24] <GleepGlop> Flare183: lol wat?
[22:25] <jerbear> what do i need to do to enable the proprietary nvidia driver from the command line? i want to emulate what happens when i enable it from gnome
[22:25] <Darklegion> login Darklegion deathnote?.360
[22:25] <Flare183> GleepGlop: try to not put the device in all the way
[22:25] <Flare183> and make sure you watch the dmesg stuff while you do so
[22:25] <GleepGlop> Flare183:  oh, put the USB device in the jack halfway?
[22:25] <DasEi> GleepGlop: using an external usb drive ?
[22:25] <yowshi> stroyan: so basically preload with the cheese?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> roule01010:  xterm has dozens of settings for the colors and stuff.  xterm -bg black -fg green   for example.
[22:25] <Slart> olivier_: ok.. so you've got a soundcard in the tvcard..  can you run this "sudo cat /proc/asound/cards" and see if you see that card there?
[22:25] <Flare183> GleepGlop: 3/4 of the way
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> roule01010:  or xterm -rv (for reverse video/colors)
[22:26] <GleepGlop> Flare183:  ok.  I'm using Apple Pro Keyboard and Logitech USB mouse only
[22:26] <Flare183> GleepGlop: so?
[22:26] <jerbear> what do i need to do to enable the proprietary nvidia driver from the command line? i want to emulate what happens when i enable it from gnome
[22:26] <yowshi> stroyan: grrr cheese crashed when i went to close it
[22:27] <ikonia> jerbear: it works different, it basiclly installs the nvidia-glx package
[22:27] <Lenin_Cat> is there a way to run a remote desktop WITHOUT a server because my ISP dosnt allow running servers
[22:27] <GleepGlop> Flare183:  sorry wrong person
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> jerbear:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-XXXXXXX where XXX is the right version i think.
[22:27] <Flare183> GleepGlop: Its ok
[22:27] <stroyan> yowshi: The example shows how to set the LD_PRELOAD environment variable so the ldd library loader will pull in that 'shim' v4l1compat library.
[22:27] <olivier_> Slart :http://pastebin.com/m36cf496d
[22:27] <hbekel> yowshi: that comment shows how to preload the v4lcompat library
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> find nvidia
[22:27] <Slart> Lenin_Cat: your ISP won't mind if you run a remote desktop service
[22:27] <mzz> pisiq: err, I think you're definitely not looking for gcc and probably not looking for gpg either, but I'm not sure what commandline util you *are* looking for
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia
[22:27] <mzz> pisiq: in what context do you want to use this?
[22:27] <yldz> how can I connect to KDE partition manager as a root
[22:27] <mzz> pisiq: also, please don't /msg me for no good reason
[22:27] <Slart> Lenin_Cat: they are more concerned with you running a high bandwidth web server or such.. because then they want you to have a business connection
[22:28] <GleepGlop> bye
[22:28] <DasEi> yldz: gparted
[22:28] <yowshi> stroyan: well that is my solution right?:
[22:28] <Lenin_Cat> Slart, virison makes it clear in its TOS
[22:28] <heltav> are there any plans on making ubuntu look better?
[22:28] <ikonia> heltav: there are themes on gnome-look.org
[22:28] <Flare183> yldz: Run this: kdesudo qtparted
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> I thinkit looks ok now :)
[22:28] <heltav> firefox looks like crap with that fat bar
[22:28] <yowshi> stroyan:  hbekel as soon as i figure iout how to kill the now unkillable cheeser programme
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> !info gnome-art
[22:28] <pisiq> mzz i am running a psybnc and it has a txt file where my password is. i wanna crypt that password so if someone opens the txt cant see my text password
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> fat bar? never noticed.. there are firefox themes
[22:29] <mzz> pisiq: does the psybnc documentation tell you what tool to use here?
[22:29] <Flare183> DasEi: You can't do that in KDE, unless you have gparted installed. QTParted is the GTK version
[22:29] <Flare183> !askthebot | Dr_Willis (Sorry just doing my job)
[22:29] <yowshi> stroyan:  hbekel there really needs to be a kill command that is stronger then -9
[22:29] <pisiq> mzz nope
[22:29] <Slart> Lenin_Cat: you mean Verizon? even if they are the scum of the earth and should be the first against the wall when the revolution comes they still won't care if you run a remote desktop server.. it's standard in all home connection user agreements
[22:29] <yowshi> stroyan:  hbekel because -9 NEVER works for mme
[22:29] <yldz> it doesn't work  kdesudo qtparted
[22:29] <Lenin_Cat> Finally, it may be against Verizon's terms of service for you to run a server on your residential network connection.
[22:30] <ikonia> Lenin_Cat: please take it up with Verizon, not here
[22:30] <rpwiz1> hello
[22:30] <stroyan> yowshi: Now we are back where I entered this discussion. ;-)   You may dislodge the program by using 'sudo modprobe -r gspca_pac207'
[22:30] <mzz> pisiq: read the documentation. You need a salt.h file used when compiling your instance of psybnc for this to work.
[22:31] <rpwiz1> i 'm new around so bear with me for awyle
[22:31] <mzz> pisiq: what you're trying to do is a bit psybnc-specific, I doubt just asking for help with "crypt" is going to get you very far
[22:31] <yldz> command not found
[22:31] <yldz> writes
[22:31] <yldz>  kdesudo qtparted
[22:31] <Darklegion> login
[22:31] <Darklegion> ls
[22:31] <Darklegion> klherg
[22:31] <Darklegion> erh
[22:31] <yldz> ls
[22:31] <FloodBot1> Darklegion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <pisiq> hmm
[22:31] <Rob235> yo
[22:31] <Rob235> whats a really good music player for ubuntu
[22:32] <pisiq> ok, thanks mzz. ill try to find out in psybnc
[22:32] <betita_elfica> grub
[22:32] <stroyan> yowshi: Or modprobe with whichever modules you actually have loaded on your system for the camera.  (And removing a stuck module could lead you into even more trouble.  It obviously is not the most stable of modules already.)
[22:32] <betita_elfica> super grub
[22:32] <betita_elfica> grub
[22:32] <yowshi> well that was fragging fragged. shystem monitor crashed when i tried to use it to kill cheese
[22:32] <betita_elfica> any help?
[22:32] <Slart> olivier_: ok.. it seems you have two soundcards according to alsa.. I wonder why only one shows up in pulseaudio... strange
[22:32] <xangua> Rob235: i use the default: rhythmbox
[22:32] <ikonia> yowshi: please stop messing around
[22:32] <ikonia> yowshi: if you want support ask clear sensible questions about ubuntu
[22:32] <Slart> olivier_: the intel one is probably a soundcard built-in on your motherboard. Does that sound correct?
[22:33] <yowshi> stroyan: sorry i missed anything you said before. system kind of crashed a bit ikonia i havent been getting much help for this until like today so i have had to trial and error this with no success
[22:33] <olli> Hello! I've got some minor problems with dmraid. After upgrading from intrepid, no device files are created in /dev/mapper during boottime. what's wrong?
[22:33] <ikonia> yowshi: that doesn't mean talk nonsense in the channel, you'll get better help if you ask clear questions
[22:33] <olivier_> Slart: exactly. And it works, except the tv audio part
[22:33] <ikonia> !away > Roozbeh|Away
[22:33] <mudassar> how can I check whether I am using Adobe Flash plugin in firefox browser in ubuntu 9.04 ? I am getting problems in seeing youtube videos
[22:33] <BBlinkk> I'm trying to setup remote desktop, in jaunty, but I keep getting this message: "Your desktop is only reachable over the local network. Others can access your computer using the address localhost."
[22:33] <stroyan> yowshi: I was just saying that your system might crash. ;-)
[22:34] <Slart> mudassar: "about:plugins" in firefox
[22:34] <yowshi> ikonia: that assumes i know what to ask beyond please help me get this working
[22:34] <ikonia> yowshi: what's the problem?
[22:34] <jerbear> what do i need to do to enable the proprietary nvidia driver from the command line? i want to emulate what happens when i enable it from gnome
[22:34] <stroyan> yowshi: Using modprobe -r to remove a module may get a hung process unstuck.  But it may also bring the system crashing down when the module messes up more stuff on the way out.
[22:34] <tyler-> stupid question: is it possible to upgrade to 64bit from 32bit without reinstalling?
[22:34] <ikonia> jerbear: it isnstalls the nvidia-glx pacakge
[22:35] <ikonia> tyler-: no
[22:35] <yowshi> ikonia: i have a recently bought webcam and every programme which i can use to record locally crashes. and when it crashes it becomes either unkillable like cheese right now or zombiued. in either case it maintains it's hold on /dev/video0
[22:35] <pisiq> mzz
[22:35] <pisiq> there is a command
[22:35] <jerbear> ikonia: don't i have to change the xorg.conf somehow?
[22:35] <pisiq> echo hello | gpg -ace
[22:35] <ikonia> jerbear: no
[22:35] <jerbear> ok
[22:35] <pisiq> but it requests a id after, and i dont know what id to do
[22:35] <ikonia> yowshi: what webcam is it ?
[22:36] <yowshi> ikonia: a flex cam 100
[22:36] <mzz> pisiq: are you sure that uses the algorithm psybnc expects you to use?
[22:36] <ikonia> yowshi: is that supported at all ?
[22:36] <ikonia> !away > CamargoBP|away
[22:36] <pisiq> i think so
[22:36] <Slart> olivier_: I honestly think your best bet is to write a post on the ubuntu-forums.. perhaps someone else has the same card and knows how to make it work..
[22:36] <pisiq> but i worth to give it a try
[22:36] <yowshi> ikonia: well when i do a gstreamer-propeties after a rebootr the test input shows the cameras view so yeah kind of
[22:36] <vader> Anybody know how to set hardware acceleration for frame buffer vesafb using fbset? To list 1233 files in console takes 27s, while in X it's a zippy 0.77s.
[22:36] <Wicked> !p2p
[22:36] <amoblin> Excuse me!
[22:36] <mzz> pisiq: using that is perfectly reasonable if you want to encrypt something so that *you* can later decrypt it, but doesn't necessarily make any sense if you want *psybnc* to decrypt it
[22:37] <ikonia> yowshi: how are you trying to kill the process ?
[22:37] <mzz> pisiq: where in psybnc's documentation does it say this is the encryption it uses?
[22:37] <amoblin> Is there anyone know w3mimgdisplay?
[22:37] <pisiq> gpg it sais
[22:37] <yowshi> ikonia: either a kill -9 # or killall -9 cheese
[22:37] <olivier_> Slart: I will, hope someone could help... :s
[22:37] <pisiq> and it support ascii also
[22:37] <olivier_> Thank you anyway ;)
[22:38] <ikonia> yowshi: and it just doesn't go /
[22:38] <mudassar> about: plugins is showing me File name:  libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22, is it the right plugin for firefox in ubuntu for flash to run youtube videos  ? if not then how can I change it to adobe flash player ?
[22:38] <yowshi> ikonia: nope
[22:38] <ikonia> yowshi: that's most odd, I'd log a bug in launchpad.net for that then, it certainly sounds valid
[22:38] <amoblin> who use w3m?
[22:38] <lwfa> hi all, my computer's randomly shut it self down once last night, and once this evening, unfortunately I've not witnessed it happening, is there anything I can do to diagnose it?
[22:38] <Ed54> can i use ntfs as a home partition?
[22:38] <pisiq> mzz with gpg command it sais
[22:38] <eseven73> what's the command for rsync to exclude a directory? I cant make heads or tails out of man rsync
[22:38] <pisiq> You did not specify a user ID. (you may use "-r")
[22:38] <pisiq> Current recipients:
[22:38] <pisiq> Enter the user ID.  End with an empty line: man gpg
[22:38] <pisiq> No such user ID.
[22:38] <ikonia> Ed54: I don't advise it
[22:39] <DasEi>  lwfa: check logs
[22:39] <FloodBot1> pisiq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:39] <Ed54> i want to be able to access files from windows
[22:39] <yowshi> ikonia: i have had it in the past where i can turn it into a zombie. but even then it keeps control of the webcam
[22:39] <pisiq> what id shall i put ?
[22:39] <Ed54> that's what i thought
[22:39] <amoblin> lwfa:reboot....
[22:39] <crakhed> I got a quick q. anyone here able to form a good union between ubuntu (evolution suite) and the iphone (jailed)? in terms of syncing contacts, tasks, calandar, emails etc... ?????
[22:39] <ikonia> yowshi: log a bug, it sounds worth while
[22:39] <lwfa> DasEi: thanks, which logs should I check?
[22:39] <DasEi>  lwfa: gedit /var/log/syslog
[22:39] <hbekel> yowshi: have you tried using v4lcompat? sounds like the solution to your problem
[22:39] <eseven73> what's the command for rsync to exclude a directory? I cant make heads or tails out of man rsync
[22:39] <jerbear> arrghhh! what is wrong with this thing. I can't get the damn login screen to come up! does anyone have any idea what this could be?
[22:39] <mudassar>  about: plugins is showing me File name:  libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22, is it the right plugin for firefox in ubuntu for flash to run youtube videos  ? if not then how can I change it to adobe flash player ?
[22:40] <mzz> pisiq: again, I suspect this will not give you a form of encryption psybnc can decrypt
[22:40] <yowshi> hbekel: yes i tried using a preload thing to load it this time around and cheese crashed spectaularily
[22:40] <kartofelek> eseven73 --exclude
[22:40] <Ed54> there are apps that let you access linux partitions from windows, right?
[22:40] <amoblin> How we can show image in terminal?
[22:40] <eseven73> kartofelek, so --exclude /tmp/  thats it?
[22:40] <mzz> pisiq: feel free to generate a key for yourself so you can encrypt things (the gpg manual covers this) but I would be quite surprised if this did what you wanted
[22:40] <hbekel> yowshi: nvm then
[22:40] <stroyan> yowshi: Did you ever get to try the LD_PRELOAD after a fresh reboot?  It may have been in a bad state from an earlier program.
[22:40] <mzz> pisiq: however I do not know psybnc, I'm just going off skimming its documentation. Consider asking someone who knows psybnc...
[22:40] <Slart> Ed54: yes.. last time I checked they were a bit rough around the edges but ext3/2 support is supposed to be doable
[22:40] <kartofelek> eseven73 as far as I remember, yes
[22:40] <yowshi> stroyan: this was after a fresh reboot
[22:41] <BBlinkk> anyone know if there are issues with remote desktop not starting vino?
[22:41] <Slart> amoblin: using some kind of framebuffer driver
[22:41] <yowshi> stroyan: this time around i didnt touch the camera progs until i had a plausable solution
[22:41] <Ed54> Slart: but not ext4? i wanted to use that
[22:41] <eseven73> kartofelek, ok thank you
[22:41] <jerbear> arrghhh! what is wrong with this thing. I can't get the damn login screen to come up! does anyone have any idea what this could be?
[22:41] <NetEcho> is there a website I can visit to search the ubuntu package database?
[22:41] <Slart> Ed54: I'm not sure about ext4.. you'll have to use the mighty google
[22:41] <glitsj16> mudassar: yes that's the one you need for youtube ... do you have any other plugins that might conflict with eachother in your list ?
[22:41] <amoblin> Slart:what about w3m?
[22:41] <Slart> NetEcho: packages.ubuntu.com
[22:41] <NetEcho> thanks
[22:41] <boringpackets> this is probably an obvious question but I cant seem to find the answer. How do I enable four desktops instead of two?
[22:41] <Ed54> Slart: alright then
[22:42] <ikonia> boringpackets: are you using compiz (the cube)
[22:42] <boringpackets> yes
[22:42] <kartofelek> eseven73 no problem
[22:42] <ikonia> boringpackets: ok - so you need to set it in the cube settings in ccsm
[22:42] <Slart> amoblin: w3m.. the web browser? what about it?
[22:42] <boringpackets> ah ok thanks
[22:42] <Buttons840> Anyone familiar with a good PHP IDE?
[22:42] <amoblin> Slart:yes, a web browser in terminal...
[22:42] <vader> amoblin: install zgv
[22:43] <kartofelek> Buttons840 vim?
[22:43] <amoblin> vader:I want to show inline..like w3m..
[22:43] <amoblin> vader:not a new window...
[22:43] <Buttons840> vim?  is this in repositories?
[22:43] <Slart> amoblin: it will not help you.. you need a driver of some kind.. a framebuffer driver if you ask me.. there might be other ways but that's the one I've heard of
[22:43] <yowshi> ikonia: this is why i dont usually get around to filing bug reports. qwuestions i hAve no clue nabout. IE this one what package do i chose?
[22:43] <boringpackets> i cant find it, are you sure it's not a gnome function?
[22:44] <Slart> amoblin: when you have the driver working you can start using applications that show images
[22:44] <ikonia> yowshi: click the "I don't know" option
[22:44] <Buttons840> I looked at eclipse, but I'm trying to focus on php here, not on how to put a IDE together.
[22:44] <amoblin> Slart:I have opened framebuffer....
[22:44] <amoblin> Slart:and I can play video with mplayer in console.
[22:44] <lwfa> the last command in syslog before it shut down was a cron job running /usr/sbin/update-motd although this was run several times before that at 10 min intervals without a problem
[22:44] <voss> Why the heck would flash be dog slow on a 2.8 ghz pentium 4 running 9.04 with 1.5gb of memory.
[22:45] <mudassar> the plugins of flash listed in about: plugins are as follows, will they conflict in playing youtube video in ubuntu (firefox) ? how to disable the conflicting one ?
[22:45] <mudassar> application/x-shockwave-flash    |     Shockwave Flash
[22:45] <mudassar> application/futuresplash              |     FutureSplash Player
[22:45] <yowshi> ikonia: i dont see an i dont know option
[22:45] <honkyusa> I installed the RC of 9.04 five days before it was released.   Do I have to do an entire distro upgrade or can my RC be updated to the official release through apt-get updates ?
[22:45] <LjL> !final | honkyusa
[22:45] <gordonjcp> Buttons840: I just use gedit for all my webby stuff
[22:45] <stroyan> Buttons840: vim isn't _really_ and IDE.  But it is a valid alternative.  Have a look at http://realm3.com/articles/getting_started_with_vim_and_php
[22:45] <boringpackets> voss, probably because of compiz, try metacity --replace
[22:45] <ikonia> yowshi: it is there
[22:45] <gordonjcp> Buttons840: you might find bluefish, anjuta or kate helpful
[22:45] <glitsj16> Buttons840: never used it myself, but anjuta gets nice reviews (also in the repo's) .. i used gedit but have recently migrated to geany
[22:45] <Slart> amoblin: ok, then find an application for showing images using the framebuffer.. zgv was suggested.. synaptic might have more
[22:45] <thomatwork> Whenever I load Twitter.com in the FF that comes w/ 9.04 - my 3 Ghz dual core 6GB RAM desktop comes to a crawl - any ideas about what might be causing this? Running 64bit
[22:45] <gordonjcp> Buttons840: for that matter, you could also use kdevelop
[22:45] <ikonia> thomatwork: I'm doing that same thing now with no load
[22:45] <boringpackets> thomatwork, well for one, there's no need to use twitter
[22:46] <Buttons840> geany, i saw that and heard good things about it?
[22:46] <boringpackets> i think not using twitter would solve that
[22:46] <thomatwork> boringpackets: ;)
[22:46] <jerbear> anyone? black screen on boot?
[22:46] <ikonia> boringpackets: don't be smart, he's asking for help
[22:46] <gordonjcp> Buttons840: for me, gedit is perfectly sufficient - it's got syntax hilight, tabs and line numbers
[22:46] <glitsj16> Buttons840: yes, very lightweight but works just fine
[22:46] <voss> boringpackets, Its a dell optiplex gx260, im thinking if I put in a fx 5200 video card that will get it up to normal speed.
[22:46] <gordonjcp> thomatwork: I know this isn't helpful, but it works perfectly well for me in 32-bit
[22:46] <thomatwork> ikonia, I expect a certain amount of smart assery
[22:47] <Buttons840> I suppose I could try several
[22:47] <Buttons840> out of repos
[22:47] <glitsj16> gordonjcp: i like gedit, but do you happen to know it does code folding ?
[22:47] <boringpackets> voss, i can tell you from first hand experience that the fx5200 won't impress you in any way
[22:47] <gordonjcp> thomatwork: have you got any unusual firefox add-ons?
[22:47] <gordonjcp> glitsj16: not that I know of, but I expect you can configure it, or find a plugin
[22:47] <honkyusa> I take it ubottu is a script and not a human...
[22:47] <voss> boringpackets, its not supposed to be impressive just enough video card power to take the load off the cpu.
[22:47] <thomatwork> I'm try a MEM check before I reinstall and test in 32bit
[22:47] <hatter243> honkyusa, uBOTtu
[22:47] <boringpackets> voss, well in that case, its a great idea
[22:47] <voss> for flash games and stuff like that
[22:47] <hatter243> !bot
[22:48] <glitsj16> gordonjcp: have looked around, but nothing yet, thanks
[22:48] <thomatwork> gorgonjcp: just the default
[22:48] <Buttons840> So, when you install something from the repos, and later uninstall them, is it REALLY gone?  (I'm used to Windows where instalilng and then uninstalling leaves you with poor performance after a while.)
[22:48] <boringpackets> i still can't find out where to go to enable four virtual desktops
[22:48] <voss> boringpackets besides, It only cost me $24 for a low profile agp card so im not expecting much :)
[22:48] <honkyusa> it has a nice dictionary
[22:48] <Slart> Buttons840: the binaries are gone.. configuration and data files remain
[22:48] <hatter243> Buttons840, it removes all but the config files unless you "purge" it
[22:48] <Slart> Buttons840: in synaptic "Purge" is the same as "completely remove"
[22:49] <boringpackets> voss, lucky you, i paid substantially more for it, and it caused an emotional breakdown (as well as an FPS breakdown)
[22:49] <Buttons840> purge = "completely remove" from symnaptic?
[22:49] <Buttons840> yes, thanks.
[22:49] <sjzzalx> Hey, Ubuntu has a version of kdiff3 that makes git mergetool die
[22:49] <hatter243> Buttons840, yes, that's correct
[22:49] <sjzzalx> Someone should update it.
[22:49] <boringpackets> every time i come in here for help i end up chatting and not getting anything done so i better go
[22:49] <Slart> !bug | sjzzalx
[22:49] <voss> boringpackets, Its a school machine I can play with. On my work machine Im putting a low profile 9400 gt that one is costing about $50
[22:49] <thomatwork> hmm - I'm also hearing hard drive activity when ever I move my mouse from the Windows PC to the Linux PC (using Synergy running as a daemon on login)
[22:49] <sjzzalx> I don't like going the slow way, you dudes
[22:50] <boringpackets> voss i have a 9400M in my laptop, and it runs compiz like a dream, though it does get sluggish if i try to lay emerald on top of it
[22:50] <stroyan> boringpackets: If you have an applet that shows 2 desktops, then right click on it and choose preferences from the menu.
[22:50] <hatter243> sjzzalx, nothing gets fixed if no one tells us what's wrong
[22:50] <janisozaur> is there any network-specific channel?
[22:50] <voss> Dell has very low power power supplies, so I have to be cautious what I put in. My optiplex 760 needs a video card, because the Intel 4 video doesnt work with ubuntu 9.05 for some reason.
[22:50] <thomatwork> Anyone know of Synergy causing performance issues?
[22:50] <ikonia> janisozaur: ##networking
[22:50] <voss> 9.04
[22:51] <mystic414> Hi all, I'm running a clean install of 9.04, and any time I right-click a bookmark in my bookmarks menu in Firefox, the browser crashes.  Same happens if I go to "organize bookmarks" and click anything in the bookmarks menu.  Any ideas?
[22:51] <hittt_> try reinstalling firefox
[22:51] <Desi_Muna> hey
[22:51] <thomatwork> mystic414: you don't really need bookmarks - just don't use them ... jk
[22:51] <Desi_Muna> Openoffice doesn't spell check
[22:52] <voss> So Im putting a 9400 video card, on a dell system with a 255 watt power supply, supposedly it has a peak power usage of 39 watts so im crossing my fingers :)
[22:52] <hatter243> mystic414, you don't happen to have a .mozilla folder in your homedir from another installation do you?
[22:52] <pepperjack> mystic414: first idea is to run from terminal to see if you get anything useful. workaround idea is to download firefox from mozilla.com perhaps
[22:52] <stroyan> thomatwork: I ran into quite a synergy problem a while back.  It was related to synergy multithreading and loosing X events for a while.  But that should be patched in any recent updates.
[22:53] <yowshi> well my bug report is in and i am rebooting
[22:53] <thomatwork> Is synergy part of the default 9.04 "live" install?
[22:53] <mystic414> hittt_: I did apt-get --purge remove firefox-3.0, then reinstalled and didn't help
[22:53] <mystic414> hatter243: I do have a .mozilla folder in my home dir
[22:53] <hittt_> then download a .deb file from firefox.com
[22:53] <voss> boringpackets, have you tried a 7200gs with 9.04?
[22:54] <mystic414> pepperjack: Running it from terminal give me a Segmentation fault message when it dies
[22:54] <shsr> how do i change policykit for a remote computer?
[22:54] <shsr> ie, without guii
[22:54] <stroyan> thomatwork: That synergy defect is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synergy/+bug/194029    I haven't used synergy recently, so don't know how it acts on jaunty.
[22:55] <Roasted> Any heavy Songbird users? Is there any way to configure Songbird to look at my music *as is* like Amarok1 used to do and Exaile does? I don't wnat my music sorted through ID tags - I just want Songbird to VIEW my music and present it to me the EXACT same way its arranged in my music folder in my home directory.
[22:55] <boringpackets> voss no i havent, just the 9400M
[22:55] <sjzzalx> hatter243: Slart: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/372454
[22:55] <pepperjack> mystic414: :)  i would download the tar.gz from mozilla extract it in your home dir and run that see if you see same crash
[22:55] <hatter243> sjzzalx, thanks!
[22:56] <vader> Anybody know how to set hardware acceleration for frame buffer vesafb using fbset? To list 1233 files in console takes 27s, while in X it's a zippy 0.77s.
[22:56] <pepperjack> mystic414: the idea to mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-bak is a good one. dont panic that your bookmarks are gone when you relaunch.  its a good test
[22:56] <hittt_> I think there was a way, to make cp work like mv
[22:56] <Slart> sjzzalx: looks good.. hope they fix it
[22:57] <rednammoc> hey guys ! Can someone help me ? I need to determine the ip-adress of an host in a lan.
[22:57] <hatter243> hittt_, cp -R?
[22:57] <hittt_> dunno
[22:57] <hittt_> I think
[22:57] <hatter243> Depends on what you mean "work like"
[22:57] <pepperjack> rednammoc: the external ip or internal?
[22:57] <hatter243> hittt_, what's the problem you're having?
[22:57] <rednammoc> pepperjack: internal
[22:58] <pepperjack> rednammoc: ping?  :)
[22:58] <hittt_> it isnt a problem, rather a mind confusion, it is late and i start forgetting unix!
[22:58] <hatter243> rednammoc, host [hostname] ?
[22:58] <rednammoc> pepperjack: the external will be the same like i'm using ;)
[22:58] <hatter243> rednammoc, Are you trying to figure out the ip of your own computer or an external one?
[22:58] <rednammoc> pepperjack: ping says: cant resolv host-name
[22:59] <rednammoc> hatter243: of an external one
[22:59] <rednammoc> if i use smbtree i can see the host. but i want to know the ip-adress
[23:00] <hatter243> Connect to the host once and then from the terminal type "arp -a"
[23:00] <pepperjack> rednammoc:  for i in `seq 1 99`; do ping 192.168.0.$i; done   :)  heh
[23:00] <eseven73> I think zenmap would work in that situation rednammoc, it's a GUI for nmap
[23:00] <hawk> rednammoc: Isn't there an nmblookup command or something like that?
[23:00] <hatter243> rofl
[23:00] <rednammoc> xD
[23:00] <mystic414> pepperjack: Renaming the .mozilla folder didn't help.  I downloaded a fresh copy from mozilla.org, extracted it, ran the extracted copy, still crashes (Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_set_sensitive: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed)
[23:00] <rednammoc> i know. but is there an better way ^^
[23:00] <hittt_> pepperjack: 192.168.1.x workz too!
[23:00] <rednammoc> hawk: dont know
[23:00] <rednammoc> hawk: i will try
[23:01] <iron_495> Hi my ubuntu 9.04 has crashed the error is Graphic environment unable to start!
[23:01] <rednammoc> hawk: your my hero of the day
[23:01] <iron_495> Can someone help me with this?
[23:01] <hittt_> iron_495: Are you using Gnome
[23:01] <hittt_> ?
[23:02] <hawk> rednammoc: np
[23:02] <iron_495> yes
[23:02] <rednammoc> thx everyone
[23:02] <hittt_> can you see the logs?
[23:02] <pepperjack> mystic414: bit out of my area then sorry.  id /join #mozilla and see what they suggest
[23:02] <mew-chan> just wondering i installed eggdrop via sudo aptitude install eggdrop
[23:02] <KB1JWQ> rednammoc: nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/23
[23:02] <KB1JWQ> The end.
[23:02] <mew-chan> what folder can i find eggdrop in?
[23:02] <mystic414> pepperjack: thanks for the help
[23:03] <hittt_> mew-chan: locate it?
[23:03] <DasEi> mew-chan: sudo updatedb && locate eggdrop
[23:03] <iron_495> hittt_: is there a wayt to restore 9.04 ?
[23:03] <mew-chan> thanks dasei
[23:03] <DumDUm> i can open anything i cant open terminal synaptic add/remove pls help
[23:03] <voss> boringpackets, do you think fx 5200 will at least fix it so flash games are not sluggish
[23:03] <rapha> Hmm
[23:04] <hittt_> iron_495, can you use the command line?
[23:04] <boringpackets> voss, my fx5200 was able to play flash games, but some i had to set to low quality
[23:04] <iron_495> yes
[23:04] <rapha> I'm just upgrading Ubuntu from 8.10 to 9.04 on a friend's PC and it wants to install LILO?!? Why would it replace GRUB with LILO?!?!
[23:04] <k1rb_E> what program do i use to burn img files to usb drives?
[23:04] <boringpackets> what was the release date for 9.04?
[23:04] <DumDUm> rapha: ubuntu may not work with lilo
[23:04] <rednammoc> KB1JWQ: didnt give me the hostname. but found all pc's on the network including mac-adress
[23:04] <boringpackets> lol rapha, thats funny right there
[23:05] <hittt_> iron_495, can you reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[23:05] <iron_495> I have 8.10 is that that one acceptable?
[23:05] <rapha> DumDUm: i know and i dont want lilo but update-manager installed it - why, and can I safely remove it again?
[23:05] <iron_495> hittt_:
[23:06] <glitsj16> rapha: that's a known issue, mentioned in the release notes ... if you don't need it, you can safely remove it
[23:06] <hittt_> iron_495, you are not verbose at all!
[23:06] <iron_495> no not that I know for sure?
[23:06] <enaz> any one know a guide on how to convert to raid 1? i currenly only have 1 hard drive but i will bad adding 1 more and i want to use a raid 1
[23:07] <KB1JWQ> rednammoc: Then they're not registering in DNS.
[23:07] <enaz> i know a little bit about how to set up a new raid1 with mdadm but i dont want to loose all my data
[23:07] <KB1JWQ> Could nmap -A those hosts that're there, that might tell you if they're sharing over netbios
[23:07] <rapha> glitsj16: okay thanks now i feel good again :)
[23:07] <DumDUm> cant run terminal pls help
[23:07] <glitsj16> rapha: np :)
[23:08] <k1rb_E> what program do i use to burn img files to usb drives?
[23:08] <iron_495> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it only frooze and i have to ctrl+alt+Delete to get out of it ?
[23:08] <hittt_> iron_495, if i wasnt that tired, i could type the command to reconfigure that package straightaway, but now I dont remember neither the package name, or the command :P
[23:09] <enaz> k1rb_E, if its a ubuntu install cd u can use the usb startup dick creater under system/administration
[23:09] <sage> updatedb command not found
[23:09] <iron_495> is it the >Xauthority?
[23:09] <iron_495> hittt_:
[23:09] <DasEi> sage: sudo updateb ?
[23:09] <hittt_> iron_495, was it with root priviliges?
[23:09] <DasEi> sage: sudo updatedb ?        *
[23:09] <Klone> helloi
[23:09] <k1rb_E> enaz: found it.. thanks!
[23:09] <iron_495> hittt_: yes
[23:09] <enaz> k1rb_E,  np
[23:10] <sage> yes command was not found
[23:10] <Klone> how do i browse to drives through the terminal in linux?
[23:10] <cpierce> make sure you have slocate installed too
[23:10] <k1rb_E> enaz: its asking for an iso.. i have an img
[23:10] <rednammoc> KB1JWQ: which target ?
[23:10] <iron_495> hittt_:actually I can't find the .Xauthority file
[23:10] <DasEi> Klone: use mount to find the dirs, cd there
[23:10] <sage> i typed sudo updatedb && locate eggdrop
[23:10] <pepperjack> Klone: use the mount command to see their mount points then cd  means change directory to the mount mount like cd /media/sda3   then ls to list contents
[23:10] <sage> i got sudo: updatedb command not found
[23:11] <Klone> ok thanks guys
[23:11] <cpierce> find -name eggdrop /
[23:11] <KB1JWQ> rednammoc: Whichever you care about.
[23:11] <pepperjack> !cli > Klone
[23:11] <cpierce> will do it if updatedb isn't updated
[23:11] <hittt_> iron_495, you are on a terminal right?
[23:11] <tecky> Question for anyone with a HP knowledgebase, what would you prefer a HP LJ P2035n / HP LJ P2055dn ??
[23:11] <LjL> !ot
[23:12] <pepperjack> tecky: id check linuxprinting.org
[23:12] <tecky> ljl: its related as its going to be used on a Ubuntu 9.04 desktop
[23:12] <iron_495> yes but on another machine but if you give me something I'll have to run to the other machine!
[23:12] <boringpackets> im not sure who was responsible for making it so the scroller on laptops and mouses functioned on out-of-focus windows as well as infocus ones
[23:12] <boringpackets> but that was GENIUS
[23:12] <rednammoc> KB1JWQ: Failed to resolve given hostname/IP:
[23:12] <cpierce> boringpackets: thats a mac thing :)
[23:12] <hittt_> iron_495, I mean the problematic PC, can you get a shell to it?
[23:12] <KB1JWQ> rednammoc: Take a step back a second.  What the heck are you trying to achieve?
[23:12] <NetEcho> what programs are needed to run ./configure for compiling programs?
[23:13] <hittt_> gcc
[23:13] <LjL> !be > NetEcho    (NetEcho, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:13] <KB1JWQ> NetEcho: Depends ENTIRELY on what you're building.
[23:13] <NetEcho> thanks
[23:13] <LjL> !build-essential > NetEcho    (NetEcho, see the private message from ubottu)
[23:13] <pepperjack> NetEcho: sudo apt-get install build-essential  is starting point
[23:13] <k1rb_E> what program do i use to burn img files to usb drives?
[23:13] <cpierce> NetEcho: gcc and automake ... apt-get install build-essential
[23:13] <iron_495> I think so you nano a .bachrc?
[23:13] <pepperjack> k1rb_E: dd?
[23:13] <k1rb_E> pepperjack what is dd?
[23:13] <iron_495> .bashrc sorry
[23:13] <NetEcho> also is there an update manager for Ubuntu server?
[23:13] <zebulon_> anybody know whats going on with http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[23:14] <hittt_> iron_495, what does startx return?
[23:14] <zebulon_> getting a "database error" message and an empty mailto: contact link
[23:14] <cpierce> k1rb_E: dd if=/myimage.img of=/dev/sdb1
[23:14] <iron_495> I do have the terminal access it returns an error
[23:14] <rednammoc> KB1JWQ: i wanted to translate an host into an ip-adress within the lan.
[23:14] <sage> any idea on how to find eggdrop if it was installed via sudo aptitude install eggdrop ??  (or how do i find tcl) so i can install eggdrop myself ( it fails to find tcl for some reason
[23:14] <NetEcho> :o theres no ncurses package?
[23:14] <k1rb_E> cpierce ok ill try that
[23:14] <iron_495> startx that is
[23:15] <glitsj16> zebulon_: the forums seem to have a database issue, nothing you can do but wait untill it comes up again
[23:15] <hittt_> NetEcho: Impossible
[23:15] <eseven73> what's the name of that graphical app that shows file/directory size?
[23:15] <rednammoc> KB1JWQ: hawk gave me an good answer, using nmblookup
[23:15] <pepperjack> k1rb_E: its command line im not sure offhand about gui apps. like dd if=file.img of=/dev/sdc or whatever but do NOT do that if you are not sure of the drive (sdc)
[23:15] <NetEcho> apt-get tells me there is no candidate
[23:15] <admin_masu3701> no sound do to flash..try uninstallin and reinstalling flash player but nothing work
[23:15] <admin_masu3701> would i re-install ubuntu?
[23:15] <DasEi> eseven73:man ls
[23:15] <hittt_> admin_masu3701, is it clean install?
[23:15] <hittt_> or upgrade?
[23:15] <DasEi> eseven73:sorry, you menat grafical
[23:15] <eseven73> DasEi, I need a graphical one, I just forget the name
[23:15] <eseven73> :)
[23:16] <cpierce> NetEcho: what version of linux?
[23:16] <iron_495> hittt_: thanks I really appreciatethe help!
[23:16] <NetEcho> Ubuntu Server 9.04
[23:16] <admin_masu3701> i have upgraded from 8.10
[23:16] <DasEi> eseven73:kdiskfree is one
[23:16] <eseven73> that sounds like KDE app
[23:16] <eseven73> don't want kde libs if I can help it :)
[23:16] <hittt_> iron_495: Did you take any clues?
[23:16] <pepperjack> eseven73: kdirstat is pretty cool
[23:16] <k1rb_E> pepperjack how do i figure out the drive?
[23:16] <DasEi> !diskfree | eseven73
[23:16] <mpontillo> sage: if you just want to know where it got installed, try "dpkg -L eggdrop"
[23:17] <eseven73> baobab that the one (i think) thanks!
[23:17] <zebulon_> dang, canonical which runs the sites is in GMT.  Guesit won't be back up til tomorrow
[23:17] <slowraid> is raid 5 rebuild / reshape slow on ubuntu 9.04 a known issue?
[23:17] <cpierce> apt-get install build-essential works for me
[23:17] <pepperjack> k1rb_E: plug in the drive and do a dmesg | tail   you should then see it
[23:17] <iron_495> well cron shows an error apache could'nt start it must have something to do with .Xauthority?
[23:17] <k1rb_E> pepperjack ok
[23:17] <pepperjack> k1rb_E: or mount command since ubuntu will automount it
[23:18] <iron_495> but I can't seem to get past permissions
[23:18] <k1rb_E> pepperjack: [167872.472709]  sdb: sdb1
[23:18] <k1rb_E> [167872.518364] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[23:18] <k1rb_E> [167872.518488] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[23:18] <pepperjack> k1rb_E: thats it
[23:18] <MikeTheC> Hey folks...
[23:18] <k1rb_E> pepperjack /dev/sdb ?
[23:19] <k1rb_E> pepperjack /dev/sdb1 ?
[23:19] <Roasted> Any heavy Songbird users? Is there any way to configure Songbird to look at my music *as is* like Amarok1 used to do and Exaile does? I don't wnat my music sorted through ID tags - I just want Songbird to VIEW my music and present it to me the EXACT same way its arranged in my music folder in my home directory.
[23:19] <MikeTheC> Anyone here know how to get Gnome to automatically cycle through my wallpaper?
[23:19] <olmari> Here's one for you, suddenly I can't seem to burn any discimages with jaunty
[23:19] <olmari> with any program that is
[23:19] <MikeTheC> I've tried to install Wallpaper Tray, but even after it's "installed" I can't find any trace of it.
[23:19] <pepperjack> k1rb_E: yes sdb
[23:19] <iron_495> hittt_: how about this Idea if you are tired you can e-mail the cure by ironfoot495@yahoo.com?
[23:19] <olmari> k3b knows to tell that my drive doesn't support DAO
[23:19] <elementz> got a strange problem: created a new ext3 partition via gparted on an external usb drive. when mounting that partition, and trying to create a file eg via 'touch foo' i get a 'Permission denied' - wtf?
[23:20] <olmari> but it does
[23:20] <iron_495> hittt_: is that acceptable?
[23:20] <dereine> what it the default installation dir of gem in ubuntu?
[23:20] <hittt_> yep
[23:20] <jaggerjack> Hi, does anyone know where I can go to get some troubleshooting help?
[23:20] <pepperjack> jaggerjack: . here
[23:20] <eseven73> lol forums are down as usual
[23:20] <DasEi> elementz: chown the folder it's mounte to to correctr user
[23:20] <boringpackets> cpierce what do you mean that's a mac thing?
[23:20] <hittt_> cuz, b b, guys I need to get a non-UNIX sleep
[23:20] <hatter243> Is there a harddrive diagnostic tool in Ubuntu? I'm trying to figure out if this harddrive I've got lying about is in tip top shape...
[23:20] <boringpackets> cpierce i was afk
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> hatter243: fsck
[23:20] <olmari> also gurning images wasn't problem with 8.10
[23:20] <hatter243> ah yes
[23:20] <shsr> arggggggggggg
[23:21] <elementz> DasEi: ?
[23:21] <halox3xdraven> can anyone help me with the libpango prob?
[23:21] <shsr> update-initramfs is seeing some old cruft and wont configure
[23:21] <jerbear> what happened to tracker and deskbar in jaunty?
[23:21] <elementz> DasEi: there is no folder. its just the hd
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> hatter243: or get the ultimate boot cd, it has tools from the major hdd manufacturers to test the drive usig their own tool
[23:21] <pepperjack> halox3xdraven: gsmartcontrol maybe best bet as far as i know
[23:21] <olivier_> Slart: I've managed to get tv sound using 'pacat -r -d alsa_input.pci_1131_7134_sound_card_0_alsa_capture_0 --rate=66000|pacat. So it seems I should make a bug report
[23:22] <DasEi> elementz: let's say it mounted on /media/usb, your username is elementz, then do : sudo chown -R
[23:22] <hatter243> ActionParsnip, Good idea, thanks!
[23:22] <elementz> DasEi: k.
[23:22] <DasEi> elementz: sudo chown -R elementz /media/usb
[23:22] <elementz> DasEi: how can i check the permissions on the mount?
[23:22] <MikeTheC> Also, is there a way to get Gnome to actually recognize and play sounds for the events designated in it's Sound control panel?
[23:22] <DasEi> elementz: ls tells you, man ls
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> elementz: ls -l /media/usb
[23:23] <elementz> k thx
[23:23] <DasEi> elementz: also you could add it to fstab, options user,rw
[23:23] <gbailey1> Can anyone give me a quick walkthrough of visudo? I seem to be having difficulty editing my sudoers file
[23:24] <samuelg> I'm running jaunty on a dell laptop and I'm having a lot of xorg issues. After an update, my screen is now all rainbow colors. I can't make out anything. Ctrl + Alt + Backspace no longer works, so that's out. And on top of that ctrl + alt +1/2/3/4/5 doesn't work either so i'm not even sure how to access a command line
[23:24] <admin_masu3701> its very weird...i can hear sound when playing some video, but sound at all
[23:24] <admin_masu3701> how can that happen
[23:24] <elementz> DasEi: hm, ok the permissions on the mounted drive do not differ. so its the *way* i mount it? normally i just do  a mount /dev/foo /media/foo
[23:24] <KB1JWQ> gbailey1: Google it.  IT's not that difficult; all visudo does is ensure you don't mess it u0p
[23:24] <pop3> hello ppl i have a problem with my ubuntu and SD card on my laptop could someone help me ??
[23:24] <KB1JWQ> !ask | pop3
[23:24] <gbailey1> KB1JWQ: I have googled it, and I feel like a complete idiot for not being able to figure it out
[23:25] <KB1JWQ> gbailey1: Pastebin?
[23:25] <roule01010> is vim-full the same thing as vim-gnome?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> samuelg: run the fix xorg in the recovery mode menu
[23:25] <admin_masu3701> can someone help please...i dont get this
[23:25] <KB1JWQ> roule01010: Nope.
[23:25] <DasEi> elementz: mostly when you create or mount a drive, you do as super-user, so permissions will stick there (try to write by sudo should also work)
[23:25] <KB1JWQ> I think vim-gnome has a GUI frontend
[23:25] <roule01010> vim-full too
[23:25] <halox3xdraven> im having problems with libpango can anyone help?
[23:25] <admin_masu3701> no sound on the system..but hear sound when i play this clip on line
[23:25] <roule01010> vim-full has vim-gnome in his deps
[23:25] <elementz> DasEi: k
[23:26] <KB1JWQ> roule01010: Hmm.  I'm not sure what the difference is then. :)
[23:26] <KB1JWQ> Oh.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !sound | admin_masu3701
[23:26] <pepperjack> samuelg: id alt-ctrl-f2 then login then X -configure to generate an xorg.conf file then sudo mv xorg.conf-new /etc/X11/xorg.conf  then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart then go back to alt-ctrl-f2 if that doesnt fix it and change the Driver in xorg.conf to vesa and retest
[23:26] <eseven73> vim-gnome is the meta package isnt it?
[23:26] <KB1JWQ> full may grab all the varios vim packages as a meta
[23:26] <gbailey1> KB1JWQ: Again, I feel like an idiot. I figured it out :-/
[23:26] <samuelg> ActionParsnip: just booted from recovery mode, and my screen is black
[23:26] <eseven73> or full rather
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !info vim-gnome
[23:26] <KB1JWQ> gbailey1: Well that was easy...
[23:26] <pepperjack> samuelg: btw google serverflags dontzap for example of enabling alt-ctrl-backspace again
[23:26] <jaggerjack> Anyone know why my speakers may have started making a crackling sound in the last two days?  I just did an update could that have been it?
[23:26] <KB1JWQ> !info vim-full
[23:26] <linduxed> in need of help with the following matter http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/145888-no-sound-jaunty-had-intrepid.html#post693309 (theres an ubuntu-forums thread too but the forums are down...)
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> samuelg: try booting to root recovery console and run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:27] <roule01010> Okay, another q: can you use the courier font with gvim?
[23:27] <admin_masu3701> ubottu: i have try all that
[23:27] <samuelg> pepperjack: I don't think you understand... ctrl alt f1/f2/f3 doesn't even work
[23:27] <shsr> update-nitramfs is trying to create a initrd for a kernel that doesnt exist
[23:28] <admin_masu3701> ubuttu: you gave me those links last night but nothin seem to work
[23:28] <hittt_> it is a bot!
[23:28] <shsr> yeah
[23:28] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: i think you need libcanberra0 to be able to play system event sounds
[23:28] <shsr> !ubutto
[23:28] <pepperjack> samuelg: then recovery shell and personally id chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm to make it not executable until it is fixed. you can then reboot and be at command line just use +x to make executable again
[23:28] <shsr> !ubotto
[23:28] <BlueAidan> what's the recommended method of mirroring an ubuntu release?
[23:28] <DasEi> !bot
[23:29] <BlueAidan> apt-mirror?
[23:29] <samuelg> pepperjack: but how am i supposed to access a recovery shell/
[23:29] <pepperjack> samuelg: tap esc key during boot by default grub hides it but esc will give option
[23:30] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: Just checked, and it is installed. I wasn't able to get assigned sounds to play in 8.04 or 8.10, either. It's just kind of silly to have the feature but not be able to get it to work.
[23:30] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: Also, I earlier asked about automatic changing/cycling of wallpaper. Any thoughts? Compiz' Wallpaper module does nothing, and Wallpaper Tray doesn't seem to be able to install correctly on 9.04.
[23:31] <admin_masu3701> should i just reinstall ubuntu or is there any other solution to try
[23:32] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: true, for me they started to work and i don't use them ... things are always weirdly distributed (you might need additional libcanberra related packages, i have 3 but am on xubuntu so i couldn't be sure)
[23:32] <WhoNeedszzz> If anyone here is good with RLPlot, can you please send me a pm?
[23:32] <jaggerjack_> So i pressed alt-ctrl-f1 and it sent me to command prompt, how do I get out of that and back into GUI for future reference?
[23:32] <WhoNeedszzz> jaggerjack_: ctrl+alt+F7
[23:32] <jaggerjack_> ah thanks
[23:32] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: i remember the cycling wallpaper question yes, compiz wallpaper works fine, but it doesn't do cycling
[23:32] <pepperjack> alt-f7 also you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart to restart x
[23:33] <olrrai> hi
[23:33] <jaggerjack_> nice thanks
[23:33] <WhoNeedszzz> pepperjack: not just alt+F7
[23:33] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: aw nuts. I used to use Wallpaper Tray in 8.04 and 8.10.
[23:33] <olrrai> hi
[23:33] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: any errors using wallpaper tray ? or why do you think it didn't install properly ?
[23:33] <pepperjack> WhoNeedszzz: yep. only need ctrl-alt in X
[23:34] <sebsebseb> olrrai: hi
[23:34] <WhoNeedszzz> pepperjack: well then either works
[23:34] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: It installs with no errors but it cannot be found. Even when I do a "which wallpaper-tray" or "which wp-tray" nothing is returned.
[23:34] <olrrai> I upgrade to ubuntu 9.04, my kde3 app has no sound, any ideo hot to config kde3 apps?
[23:34] <WhoNeedszzz> If anyone here is good with RLPlot, can you please send me a pm?
[23:34] <jaggerjack_> so back to my original question.  as of yesterday or the day before, I have had no sound all I get is crackling out of my speakers.  Anyone been experiencing this?
[23:35] <olrrai> I upgrade to ubuntu 9.04, my kde3 app has no sound, any ideo hot to config kde3 apps? (kde4 apps has sound and works fine)
[23:35] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: you need to manually update the database if you want to find/locate something after an install, try "sudo updatedb", let it do its voodoo and run a "locate wp-tray" afterwards
[23:37] <Raynes> ubuntuforums.org is down.
[23:37] <Raynes> :|
[23:37] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: Well, yeah, it finds the directories and stuff, but no actual app itself.
[23:37] <xnixan> Hello!
[23:38] <xnixan> what is the best application for network traffic monitoring?
[23:38] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: odd indeed ... just looking at the homepage of wallpaper-tray and it mentions availability of older versions that still use the notification area instead of the gnome panel, perhaps a job for manual compilation
[23:38] <yao_ziyuan> what is the channel discussing linux games?
[23:39] <settimio80> could anyone help me? i want to know where is the location of ubuntu text menu categories? ex. Applications, Audio and Video, ... i want to know the name of these items in other languages than english
[23:39] <epaphus> HOw can i view system specs on ubuntu?
[23:39] <epaphus> like proc
[23:39] <eseven73> the factoid !diskfree needs to be changed, baobab is not in Jaunty according to !info baobab
[23:39] <gymophett> Hmm. This is neat :)
[23:40] <settimio80> please help me
[23:40] <halox3xdraven> how do i copy libpango to my lib folder?
[23:40] <anom01y> hey guys I installed a driver from Nvidia's web site to try to get my 8800 GT nvidia card to work, but after I ran nvidia-xconfig I get a black screen after I reboot
[23:40] <palomer> hello
[23:40] <gymophett> :O
[23:40] <palomer> I'm getting an annoying crackle all the time
[23:41] <palomer> ubuntu 9.04
[23:41] <palomer> how do I fix this?
[23:41] <jaggerjack_> same palomer
[23:41] <BlackCoffee> hi there,can anyone tell me how i can rotate my wallpaper image(like clockwise and such)
[23:41] <halox3xdraven> hello
[23:41] <admin_masu3701> how is it possible to NOT HaVE SOUND on the system but be able to hear sound when playin a video online?
[23:41] <jaggerjack_> just happened like yesterday, sound was working fine for me but last night I unmuted and sound was all crackles
[23:41] <glitsj16> eseven73: neither is there a baobab in intrepid it seems, and packages.ubuntu.com only show a baobab for dapper ...
[23:41] <gymophett> I wonder whats wrong with the forum?
[23:42] <epaphus> Anybody know how i can view the type of processor that my machine has in ubuntu?? anybody
[23:42] <gymophett> maybe you dont have flash installed.
[23:42] <admin_masu3701> jaggerjack_: everyone is having sound problems
[23:42] <eseven73> glitsj16, ya baobab is not in Ubuntu 8.04 either
[23:42] <Juliiiie> admin_masu3701: ha ha ha
[23:42] <Juliiiie> indeed
[23:42] <cpierce> boringpackets: the scrolling even when not active
[23:42] <jaggerjack_> oh
[23:42] <jaggerjack_> I didnt know that
[23:42] <glitsj16> the disappearing baobab .. mystery lurks
[23:42] <jaggerjack_> Thanks!
[23:42] <admin_masu3701> yea....magically
[23:42] <Juliiiie> yeah, ubuntu is fucked up with sound
[23:43] <Juliiiie> it's a pity
[23:43] <admin_masu3701> it is
[23:43] <Juliiiie> but well, it's bound to be fixed somedays
[23:43] <gymophett> my sound worked out of the box. :)
[23:43] <Reck> I have my system set up with a seperate partition for / and /home, is this called anything special?
[23:43] <eseven73> glitsj16, kdirstat is really nice alternative
[23:43] <gymophett> Everything did actually.
[23:43] <admin_masu3701> me too gymophett
[23:43] <glitsj16> eseven73: thx, will have a look
[23:43] <admin_masu3701> now no sound
[23:43] <admin_masu3701> for 3 days
[23:43] <gymophett> cool. :)
[23:43] <admin_masu3701> i think i will reinstall ubuntu
[23:44] <Juliiiie> for me it depends on which software i launch first
[23:44] <admin_masu3701> no one seem to know how to fix the isssue
[23:44] <gymophett> a woman got a face trandplant?! :O
[23:44] <ELo> pulse?
[23:44] <Reck> admin_masu3701, do you have an XPS m1330?
[23:44] <ELo> CNN right?
[23:44] <Juliiiie> i heard there are ways to beg alsa to work fine
[23:44] <gymophett> yeah.
[23:44] <admin_masu3701> yes
[23:44] <Firefishe> I'm using ubuntu 8.10, also running kde 4.2.2 and xfce4 (xubuntu) concurrently.  I am getting this error when I log in to the xfce desktop: http://rafb.net/p/Rwd4oj39.html  |  This happens only with my normal user--the one made at install time.  I have a new user, made yesterday, that logs into xfce just fine.
[23:44] <gymophett> lol.
[23:44] <glitsj16> Reck: besides wise and easy when upgrading nothing special i think no
[23:44] <pasteeater> epaphus: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:44] <ELo> thats one hell of a transplant
[23:45] <gymophett> CBS actually.
[23:45] <ELo> i wish her luck
[23:45] <ELo> aaah
[23:45] <Juliiiie> still, you'd have to "ping the kernel" in some ways, eh
[23:45] <halox3xdraven> what is the code for copying libpango 1.0-0 to the lib folder?
[23:45] <Reck> thanks glitsj16 there really should be a name for the set up. its a good way of doing it.  but it involves some work doing a fresh install and getting up and running really quick
[23:45] <halox3xdraven> please?
[23:45] <gymophett> it seems like they could fix more of it.
[23:45] <Reck> admin_masu3701, let me find the reference i used to fix my sound problem on my 13309
[23:45] <gymophett> more it loks a lot better.
[23:45] <MarkJones> halox3xdraven: Is the folder permissions preventing you from doing that?
[23:45] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: Ok, got it working. That's weird. Oh well, they changed how it works. C 'est la vie, I guess... Thanks again!
[23:46] <Juliiiie> it tells mei got no more battery
[23:46] <halox3xdraven> yes
[23:46] <Juliiiie> still, i just unplugged it
[23:46] <Juliiiie> let's see if i unconnect
[23:46] <MarkJones> halox3xdraven: sudo nautilus, then do it.
[23:46] <glitsj16> Reck: so many partition schemes around that would be a handful
[23:46] <eseven73> gksudo nautilus
[23:46] <DasEi> eseven73: thanks, I'm after it
[23:46] <eseven73> !gksudo | MarkJones
[23:46] <vader> Anybody know if a brand new 120Gb Ipod will work with Amorak/Songbird/gtkpod etc out of the box?
[23:46] <admin_masu3701> Reck: the irony is that sound was working fine 2 days ago
[23:46] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: :) happy cycling
[23:46] <boringpackets> cpierce Ohhh ! well its freaking awesome.
[23:46] <Juliiiie> admin_masu3701: have you tried alsamixer ?
[23:46] <ELo> My iPod Touch doesn't work
[23:46] <admin_masu3701> yes
[23:46] <ELo> not with songbird which i'm using now.
[23:46] <Reck> admin_masu3701, Did you install any new apps or reinstall anything related to sound?  or upgrade to 9.04?
[23:47] <gymophett> Idk if it will work OOTB, but it should be able to with a few hacks. Touch and iPhones dont.
[23:47] <halox3xdraven> thanks alot
[23:47] <MarkJones> welcome
[23:47] <ELo> I know on WinXP its been caught erasing data off of ipods, song bird that is.
[23:47] <Juliiiie> admin_masu3701: is there some "mute" button your cat could have hit ? =)
[23:47] <eseven73> DasEi, I really didn't want anymore kde libs, but luckily that app doesnt install anymore kde libs than I already had :D
[23:47] <vader> ELo: you need to jailbreak it. I have a Touch also.
[23:47] <admin_masu3701> i did upgradte to 9.04..but sound was working fine after
[23:47] <gymophett> Anyone found how to get a Zune to work with Ubuntu 9.04 yet?
[23:47] <Reck> admin_masu3701, http://www.walkingrandomly.com/?p=1100
[23:47] <olmari> Does anyone have an idea how to really check CD-writers abilities? I mean all of the sudden I can't burn any images with 9.04 while I could do it with 8.10 just fine no matter what the program used... k3b insist that mine drive doesn't support "RAW" but I know it does..
[23:47] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: Now if only I could figure out what's up with sound events in Gnome. *sigh*
[23:47] <ELo> eh, i'm not that heavy into my ipod.
[23:47] <DasEi> eseven73: which app do you use now ?
[23:48] <eseven73> kdirstats
[23:48] <shsr> olmari, all of them support raw
[23:48] <ELo> Thought about it, but I dont care about customizing so much.
[23:48] <eseven73> errr kdirstat
[23:48] <admin_masu3701> its funny how can i hear sound when i play some video clip online
[23:48] <halox3xdraven> still says dependency is unsatisfiable
[23:48] <Juliiiie> admin_masu3701: it sometimes work when under the process viewer i kill everything containing "artsd" or "knotify"
[23:48] <admin_masu3701> but no sound otherwise
[23:48] <shsr> big feature thats buggy is packet writing, havnt gotten that to work myself
[23:48] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: have you tried installing some extra libcanberra related packages yet ?
[23:48] <MarkJones> olmari: Nero for linux is pretty good.Thats what i use.Its only like $25
[23:48] <halox3xdraven> no
[23:48] <gymophett> Ubuntu 9.04 picks up my Zune now! :D
[23:48] <halox3xdraven>  i haven't
[23:48] <nrich> what's the xen-aware kernel called in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[23:49] <Juliiiie> admin_masu3701: oh, you mean you got sound on firefox and nowhere else ?
[23:49] <gymophett> Nero for Linux? Hmm. I didn't know about that. :D
[23:49] <gymophett> I'll stick with Brasero and k3b.
[23:49] <ELo> NERO?!
[23:49] <ELo> whoa
[23:49] <ELo> i gotta look into that
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> last i checked - i dident see anything thgat Nero for Linux did.. that k3b dident..
[23:49] <jaggerjack_> My sound issue is far different then yours admin_masu3701,  all my sound is crackly no matter what I am playing it through
[23:49] <vader> I need to buy q 120 for my car, but don't have any Windows machines... Will I be able to xfers songs in Ubuntu without using Itunes or jailbreaking?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> it dident have all the features the windos-over-kill version did. :)
[23:49] <Juliiiie> jaggerjack_: gotta get into industrial =)
[23:49] <mrwes> K3b is it, too bad Brasero hasn't come up to par
[23:50] <gymophett> NERO FOR LINUX: http://www.nero.com/eng/linux3.html
[23:50] <gymophett> :D
[23:50] <olmari> MarkJones: well it isn't burningprogram related as said... NO program works now..
[23:50] <jaggerjack_> industrial? you'll have to rephrase that
[23:50] <jaggerjack_> you mean the hardware?
[23:50] <admin_masu3701> i dont have sound no where in the system...but i just try to play a clip and i hear sound...
[23:50] <admin_masu3701> hahah
[23:50] <Juliiiie> distorted music for which you won't notice that kind of crackles
[23:50] <nrich> anyone know what the kernel for ubuntu 9.04 which is xen aware is called
[23:50] <yn> hey, this is more of a hardware question than Ubuntu-specific, but still related - what's the lightest, in terms of weight, laptop that is hardware compatible with Ubuntu?
[23:50] <admin_masu3701> no sound otherwise
[23:50] <jaggerjack_> hah
[23:50] <jaggerjack_> nice
[23:50] <MarkJones> Ive never realy had any dependability with k3b or brasero.
[23:51] <yn> preferably something with a full-sized keyboard, no 9" netbooks
[23:51] <Sergeant_Pony> is it possible to run Ubuntu 9.04 on a dual core 2 ghz with 3 gig memory without a swapfile?
[23:51] <Juliiiie> admin_masu3701: oh, then I guess the only thing you got to do is kill firefox first
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> Sergeant_Pony:  should be ..
[23:51] <Reck> Sergeant_Pony, yes, the swap file is recomended, not recquired
[23:51] <Reck> I don't use one
[23:51] <gymophett> I thinks so Sergeant Pony.
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> Sergeant_Pony:   it sucks when you run out of ram. :)
[23:51] <admin_masu3701> Juliiii: how do i do that...i would kill anything right now...hehee
[23:52] <gymophett> Put Swap on there anyway, JUST in case. :D
[23:52] <Juliiiie> sudo top
[23:52] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: The only uninstalled options are libcanberra0-dbg, libcanberra-dev, libcanberra-doc, libcanberra-gtk0-dbg, libcanberra-gtk-dev and libcanberra-gtk-module-dbg.
[23:52] <Sergeant_Pony> Dr_Willis, I've had this setup for 2 weeks now and it never uses more that 15% of the memory and has never touched the swapfile
[23:52] <Juliiiie> hopla
[23:52] <Juliiiie> gottago !
[23:52] <Juliiiie> ciao
[23:52] <Roasted> why is jaunty requiring me to put in a password to reboot??
[23:52] <mrwes> Sergeant_Pony, yah Jaunty is very efficient
[23:52] <admin_masu3701> juliiiii: sudo top just show you the processes
[23:52] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: that looks like you have all you should need from libcanberra, those are either debug or dev packages indeed
[23:53] <Sergeant_Pony> mrwes, cool, I like it so far except for my sound issues..
[23:53] <mrwes> forums down?
[23:53] <VCoolio> admin_masu3701: you can see the pid of the firefox-process, so run: kill (pid)
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> Sergeant_Pony:   sucks when ya accidently start 100 videos.. Like i did the other day. :)  i used up swap real fast then.. heh
[23:53] <MikeTheC> glitsj16: Yup, pretty much. Mind you I did a search for just "canberra" to try and catch anything that could be relevant or related.
[23:53] <gymophett> Forums down. :(
[23:53] <Roasted> when you guys go to shut down or reboot, do you get prompted for a password?
[23:54] <halox3xdraven> i need the libpango 1.0-0.so file
[23:54] <EManXL> negative
[23:54] <Sergeant_Pony> Roasted only if I do it from a console
[23:54] <Roasted> when I do it from the gui it requires a PW
[23:54] <Roasted> how effing strange
[23:54] <glitsj16> MikeTheC: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcanberra/+bug/273507 might have a fix
[23:54] <spytux> roasted have you enable autologin?
[23:54] <admin_masu3701> i think i will just reinstall ubuntu...less problems...
[23:55] <Roasted> spytux - No. It requires me to put in a password to log in.
[23:55] <Roasted> which is how I want it
[23:55] <koshari1> Roasted you havnt changed any permissians have you?
[23:55] <EManXL> The only thing that gets to me is how my system hangs when Ubuntu is loading the Night Rider line prior to the GUI coming up.
[23:55] <Roasted> koshari1 - I did change some permissions, but the permissions I changed were to my backup drive...
[23:55] <pop3> i have an acer 5920g with card reader and ubuntu 8.04, im trying to use my 4giga SD card but i cant!the crazy part is that 2 days ago the card works just simple, i just plug it in my laptop all was fine! could someone help me ??
[23:55] <Roasted> koshari1 - what permissions would be tied in with the logout thing Im dealing with?
[23:55] <EManXL> Worse case I have to manually turn off the PC and back on again and hope it goes through after the third manual reboot.
[23:56] <halox3xdraven> can anyone help me find the .so variant of libpango?
[23:56] <koshari1> Roasted i dont know specifically however i cant see what else would change the logout behaviour, i take it it wasnt always the case you were prompted?
[23:57] <bc> ??? http://ubuntuforums.org/
[23:57] <jaggerjack_> can anyone tell me when I let firefox sit for a period of time it stops loading pages?
[23:57] <Roasted> koshari1 - No, originally it just gave me the 1 minute warning asking me if I was sure
[23:57] <Roasted> I had a post on forums but theyre down now so I dont know if anybody responded.
[23:57] <mrwes> Roasted: are you rebooting from the command line? or the GUI?
[23:58] <Iradieh> What is the difference between Ubuntu, Ubuntu serv and Ubuntu alternative?
[23:58] <Roasted> mrwes - GUI
[23:58] <mrwes> weird
[23:58] <Roasted> mrwes - tell me about it
[23:58] <spytux> roasted this will happen if you use switch user option...
[23:58] <admin_masu3701> i have 2 partition, dual boot linux and windows, want to reinstall ubuntu, what do i need to do, should i edit the ubuntu partion first or just install the cd
[23:58] <Roasted> spytux - I'm trying to restart...
[23:58] <mrwes> Roasted: upload a screenshot to imageshack
[23:58] <koshari1> Roasted well it would appear an action taken just prior to the change would be the root cause, it you are like me however and have uptimes of up to 10 days it may be difficult to isolate the cause
[23:58] <DasEi>  Iradieh:alternative comes with a more configurable text installer, better for extic hardware..
[23:59] <Iradieh> DasEi: hmm what do you recomend for a mac mini?
[23:59] <eseven73> what's the name of the sudo crontab -e file? I want to back it up :D
[23:59] <glitsj16> jaggerjack_: some websites/services do auto-reloading, but besides that your firefox shouldn't move if you don't use it
[23:59] <Iradieh> Anyway what about server/ubuntu desktop (I come from a Debian background, I got a server, but I use NX to connect to it and therefore run Xfce)
[23:59] <lukinfore> hi ! what device should I use to raw access cd/dvd?