[12:21] <tech404> So is the reason that almost all the scripts simply trigger old scripts due to the fact everything has not been finalized? I thought we would have seen more services with their own events by now.
[12:21] <tech404> s/scripts/events/
[12:21] <Keybuk> tech404: right
[19:18] <mlaze> hello there
[19:18] <mlaze> any upstart developer around ?
[19:21] <sadmac> mlaze: what's up?
[19:22] <mlaze> i've been reading upstartcode
[19:22] <mlaze> for a while trying to figure out how to use ptrace
[19:23] <mlaze> though i'm a little confused
[19:23] <sadmac> upstart is not a good ptrace tutorial
[19:23] <sadmac> its not even a good use case for ptrace
[19:24] <mlaze> i believe so but t's pretty much readable than gdb for example
[19:24] <sadmac> there's better options still
[19:24] <sadmac> strace for one
[19:26] <mlaze> the point is that upstart traces for forks and execs wich is exactly what i'm trying to do
[19:28] <sadmac> so does strace :)
[19:30] <sadmac> if your use case is similar to ours then ptrace is the wrong way to do it. Its going away soon.
[19:30] <sadmac> Granted only Keybuk knows the /right/ way, and he's not giving out the details (you can dig them out of obscurity in the kernel source if you want to).
[19:32] <mlaze> yup, after spending some time reading upstart i've figured out that
[19:33] <mlaze> waitid and ptrace documentation lacks on some subjects
[19:54] <mlaze> sadmac: has i suspected, strace doesn't trace forks using PTRACE_SETOPTIONS
[19:54] <mlaze> but thanks for the tips
[19:55] <mlaze> anyway
[19:57] <sadmac> np