[00:14] <spasticteapot> Does anyone else here have problems with Rhythmbox? Mine refuses to play any songs, similar to when I have no soundcard selected.
[00:15] <knome> spasticteapot, does it try to use pulseaudio?
[00:15] <spasticteapot> Dunno.
[00:16] <spasticteapot> It stopped working a few days after I updated to Jaunty.
[00:16] <spasticteapot> I get this error message, for what it's worth: (rhythmbox:13827): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to grab media player keys: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name
[00:34] <spasticteapot> So, nobody knows what's up with my audio?
[00:34] <spasticteapot> :(
[00:36] <cody-somerville> spasticteapot, Do you get sound from anything else?
[00:37] <spasticteapot> Everything else.
[00:38] <spasticteapot> VLC, movie player....
[00:39] <cody-somerville> spasticteapot, Do you have the appropriate codecs installed?
[00:39] <cody-somerville> ie. Can you play the music you're trying to place with another gstreamer based player?
[00:40] <spasticteapot> cody-somerville: Possibly not. Which is odd, considering that it worked up until the last round of updates.
[00:41] <spasticteapot> FLAC isn't closed-source, so I can't see how that would cause an issue.
[00:41] <cody-somerville> spasticteapot, and what were updates are you referring to?
[00:41] <cody-somerville> errr
[00:41] <spasticteapot> The ones Ubuntu automatically recommended?
[00:41] <cody-somerville> spasticteapot, What updates did you get recently?
[00:41] <cody-somerville> Thats not helpful
[00:41] <spasticteapot> I usually leave the machine on or in sleep mode. There's been dozens.
[00:42] <spasticteapot> At least, since the last time I rebooted.
[00:42] <spasticteapot> Do you know where I can find a log of all updates I've downloaded?
[00:42] <cody-somerville>  /var/log/apt/term.log might have useful info
[00:42] <zoredache> ls
[00:43] <cody-somerville> and /var/log/dpkg.log
[00:43] <spasticteapot> The only thing that looks remotely relevant is bluez-gstreamer.
[00:44] <spasticteapot> Also, bluez-alsa.
[00:44] <spasticteapot> Though I'd presume ALSA is working properly since everything else plays.
[00:46] <cody-somerville> so maybe this has nothing to do with updates?
[00:48] <spasticteapot> It only started after I rebooted, and I've heard of other media players ceasing to function under Jaunty.
[00:58] <frenzy42> i'm getting this error when i plug in my USB drive "The enclosing drive for the volume is locked."
[00:58] <J_Litewski> HA!
[00:58] <J_Litewski> i just loaded an HTML document into my python program :D
[00:58] <J_Litewski> and it works!
[00:59] <J_Litewski> i need to refine it to show images, but it works
[02:00] <J_Litewski> JPohlmann, do you use PyQT?
[02:09] <CppIsWeird> how is it that i cant seem to print on 4x6image paper? I've played with a number of programs that come on xubuntu by default but i just cant seem to get any of them to print out to the full size of the photo paper, i keep getting these little one inch by one inch (roughly) icon sized prints on the photo paper.
[03:11] <wobbiebobbie> is there a good totural for net working xubuntu 8.04 with ubuntu 8.04
[03:16] <iliketofrolic666> is ntfs support built into xubuntu?
[03:32] <Amador> hi !! i need help with xubuntu version 9.04
[03:34] <Amador> i just installed it over ubuntu but now that im runnin it i get this message when i try to update!!
[03:34] <J_Litewski1> ok\
[03:34] <Amador> No se ha podido inicializar la información de los paquetes
[03:34] <Amador> Ha ocurrido un problema imposible de corregir cuando se inicializaba la información de los paquetes.
[03:34] <Amador> Por favor, informe de ésto como un fallo en el paquete «update-manager» e incluya el siguiente mensaje de error:
[03:34] <Amador> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages, E:No se pudieron analizar o abrir las listas de paquetes o el archivo de estado.'
[03:34] <Amador> any1 please!!
[03:36] <J_Litewski1> Amador, can you turn that into english
[03:36] <J_Litewski1> my spanish is a bit rusty :)
[03:37] <Amador> ok
[03:39] <mikubuntu> is anybody familiar with package ubuntu-restricted-extras and how to install?
[03:40] <J_Litewski1> Mikubuntu, are you on ubuntu or xubuntu?
[03:41] <Amador> A problem impossible to solve have occured when the information packages  started. Please, inform this as a faill of the package update-manager and include this message error:
[03:41] <Amador> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages,
[03:42] <mikubuntu> this machine ubuntu
[03:42] <mikubuntu> but i have xubuntu and fluxbuntu machines too
[03:42] <J_Litewski> well, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" without the qoutes
[03:42] <Amador> E: it was impossible to analize or open the list of packages or the status file.
[03:43] <mikubuntu> J_Litewski: i did, but got 'invalid operation'
[03:43] <J_Litewski> huh
[03:44] <J_Litewski> mikubuntu, try going into synaptic package manager
[03:47] <Amador> what about my problem!!1
[03:49] <J_Litewski> amador, i'm thinking
[03:49] <Amador> lol ok!
[03:52] <mikubuntu> J_Litewski: ok, seemed to install thru synaptic , but i won't have synaptic on fluxbuntu , maybe apt-get will work?
[03:52] <mikubuntu> lemme see if my media will play now
[03:52] <J_Litewski> maybe, does flux use .deb or .rpm?
[03:53] <J_Litewski> Amador, i'm sorry, but i didn't find anything about it
[03:54] <J_Litewski> can you ask sometime tomorrow, earily?
[03:54] <Amador> ok , i think i will re install it!! thanx anyways
[03:54] <J_Litewski> np
[03:58] <Mood> my update manager has been running for about 45 minutes for only 5.6 MB downloads... is this normal?
[03:59] <Mood> in top, i can see update-manager running, but it's not the top process (in terms of CPU)
[03:59] <zoredache_> Mood: if you where (un)lucky enough to get a slow mirror, they yes, maybe
[04:00] <Mood> zoredache: one troubling thing is that i noticed there were two update managers. i closed one but initiated another -- could this possibly cause instability issues?
[04:02] <zoredache> I guess that is possible.  I would tempted to close both, wait a couple minutes for the cached dns entry to expire and try again
[04:03] <Mood> would it be safe to kill update-manager? i'm paranoid that it's going to screw with the database of updates
[04:09] <Mood> fyi- my download mirror is standard for US, i.e. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[04:09] <Mood> i strongly suspect my download manager is fu*kt
[04:11] <Mood> i didn't even do anything extraordinary -- just clicked the update-manager on my task pane, clicked install updates, and waited. but now it's roughly been an hour, with no change to system status or notification
[05:47] <KoshB5> xserve crashes
[05:49] <KoshB5> would that cause the no internet problem?
[06:21] <R1cochet> y is it that since ive upgraded everything seems to run slow?
[09:20] <SiDi> my xubuntu vm install is stuck at 82 % : analysing mirrors :|
[10:58] <demon_> is any body here
[10:58] <demon_> i neeed help
[10:59] <SiDi> ask your question
[10:59] <demon_> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-2.png
[10:59] <demon_> this is my question WHY
[10:59] <demon_> every time i boot my xubuntu
[11:02] <demon_> SiDi, can you help me with this
[11:02] <SiDi> What version of Xubuntu do you have, and what graphics card ?
[11:02] <SiDi> What version of Xubuntu do you have, and what graphics card ?
[11:02] <demon_> 9.04
[11:02] <demon_> nvidia fx5200
[11:02] <SiDi> alright
[11:03] <SiDi> Go to Apps -> system ->drivers of peripherals
[11:03] <SiDi> In this window, do you have any driver listed ? Normally, Nvidia v96. Are they activated ? If no, please activate them.
[11:03] <demon_> noooooo
[11:03] <demon_> i use 173
[11:04] <SiDi> Did you install them via this window, or manually ?
[11:04] <demon_> this
[11:04] <demon_> but
[11:04] <demon_> harware drivers
[11:14] <shashwat_> is xubuntu really fast
[11:33] <FSX> Hey, what would happen if I remove the complete xfce config fro my home dir?
[11:36] <ablomen> FSX, it would be re-generated to defaults on your next login
[11:36] <ablomen> but i wouldnt do it while logged in to xfce and i would rename the folder and not delete it
[11:40] <FSX> Alright, that's good. It's resetting my config to the same thing each time I relogin.
[11:41] <FSX> ablomen, Thanks for the info. :)
[11:41] <ablomen> yw :)
[11:41] <FSX> Removing the ./cache/session didn't help. It just does the same thing again. >_>
[11:42] <ablomen> ah
[11:43] <FSX> Well, I'm going to try it. Bye. ^^
[13:22] <_Sevay_> SAlut a tous, est ce que quelqu'un parles francais ?
[14:03] <svein> x
[15:01] <KoshB5_> I'm trying to install xubuntu on a compaq 5441 and I keep getting x serve failed.
[15:03] <KoshB5_> Is there any alternative to X Serve?
[15:13] <Feisar> KoshB5: try installing from the alternate cd
[15:15] <KoshB5_> Feisar: I've tried that. It installs but still get X Serve failed.
[15:16] <Feisar> have you looked at the x log to get an idea why it is failing?
[15:19] <KoshB5_> It seems to not like the video. I'm using the onboard video set to 8MB. Machine is a compaq 5441 w/256MB
[15:20] <Feisar> running 'sudo lspci' will tell you more about the card and then google should help you find out if it is supported
[15:21] <KoshB5_> I'll give that a try. I'm attempting to reinstall via alternate cd.
[15:22] <Feisar> hmmm... I had a quick google and I think its an SIS board, from what I recall they are not supported well under linux due to no driver specs being released
[15:23] <Feisar> it might be worth your while to get a cheap grahics board from a manufacturer that supports linux
[15:25] <KoshB5_> hmmmm..... I've been thinking about getting a graphics card anyways.   Thanks for the help
[15:26] <Feisar> no
[15:26] <Feisar> sorry
[15:27] <Feisar> KoshB5: no probs, I think its an SIS 530 and a quick google suggested it might work but I need to go now - install from the alternate cd, at least then you can have a working system, then maybe get x working
[16:27] <Besogon> !upgrade
[16:46] <familia> an error occured, please run package manager from the right click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong. the eoor message was: érror: opining the cache (E: encountered a section with no package: header, E: problem with mergelist/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntudists_jaunty-security_restricted_binary-i386_packages,E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.) this usually means that your installed packages
[16:46] <familia> have unmet dependencies
[16:46] <familia> who can help me!!!
[16:46] <familia> please!!
[16:46] <familia> ;)
[16:49] <familia>  an error occured, please run package manager from the right click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong. the eoor message was: érror: opining the cache (E: encountered a section with no package: header, E: problem with mergelist/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntudists_jaunty-security_restricted_binary-i386_packages,E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.) this usually means that your installed packages
[16:49] <familia> have unmet dependencies
[16:49] <familia> xubuntu 9.04 issues!!!
[16:49] <familia> any1_??
[16:50] <forces> familia, do sudo apt-get update
[16:52] <familia> how?
[16:54] <familia> when i start the package manager i receive this messaage:
[16:54] <familia> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[16:54] <familia> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages
[16:54] <familia> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:00] <familia> helloo o o o
[17:00] <familia> ??
[17:00] <familia> need help bro
[17:02] <Pres-Gas> familia, lemme read up on something real fast...hang on
[17:03] <familia> ok...
[17:05] <Pres-Gas> familia, did you attempt to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:07] <familia> no i did not
[17:08] <familia> if it may work? how do i do it?
[17:08] <Pres-Gas> Did the package manager ever work for you, familia?
[17:09] <familia> never i installed xubuntu 30 minutes ago
[17:09] <familia> im so new on this
[17:09] <Pres-Gas> ahhhh
[17:11] <familia>  hahaha what does it mean?
[17:11] <Pres-Gas> Here is a post that may address your issue:
[17:11] <Pres-Gas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863742
[17:12] <familia> ok
[17:12] <Pres-Gas> familia, make sure to read the whole post
[17:12] <Pres-Gas> esp if you are a beginner
[17:15] <Pres-Gas> familia, a key thing in working through any issue is to look for key phrases in the messages and then run them through google...
[17:16] <Pres-Gas> it is a good place to get started.
[17:16] <Pres-Gas> For example, I searched for "encountered a section with no package: header"
[17:18] <familia> thanx bro but i tried and still doesnt work
[17:18] <familia> specially this command sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[17:18] <familia> invalid command
[17:19] <familia> and with this # sudo dpkg --configure -a ..... it ask for my password but then it doesnt do anything else
[17:32] <familia> an error occured, please run package manager from the right click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong. the eoor message was: érror: opining the cache (E: encountered a section with no package: header, E: problem with mergelist/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntudists_jaunty-security_restricted_binary-i386_packages,E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.) this usually means that your installed packages
[17:32] <familia> have unmet dependencies
[17:33] <familia> xubuntu 9.04 issues!!!
[17:33] <familia> need help!!
[17:34] <charlie-tca> familia: did you try opening a terminal and running "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[17:34] <Pres-Gas> !repeat
[17:34] <familia> yes i did! i still receive an error message
[17:34] <Pres-Gas> !patience
[17:36] <familia> just download it and i get problems its supposed to be a tested version
[17:36] <familia> dont u think
[17:37] <wITTus> hi, how can I prevent gnome-power-man from starting?
[17:37] <charlie-tca> It is a tested version. It probably something wrong on your end, I think
[17:38] <charlie-tca> No application or distribution will ever be tested on every possible piece of equipment, using every mistake a user could make.
[17:38] <familia> maybe but i reinstalled it and still have the problem!! is there a problem with the installation software maybe
[17:38] <Pres-Gas> wITTus, if you go to the Setings Manager and look in "Sessions and Startup"
[17:38] <wITTus> Pres-Gas: and via console? :)
[17:39] <charlie-tca> wITTus: don't know how via console, but it is in Applications -> Settings -> Sessions and Startup
[17:58] <familia> FIXED!!!
[17:58] <charlie-tca> how?
[17:58] <familia> SO WEIRD JUST CHANGE THE SERVER ON PREFERENCES
[17:59] <charlie-tca> I see. So it is not something wrong with the software?
[17:59] <familia> AND IT UPDATE AGAIN
[17:59] <familia> GUESS NO
[17:59] <charlie-tca> Please turn CAPS off. It is shouting at me.
[17:59] <familia> ok
[18:00] <J_Litewski> lol
[18:00] <charlie-tca> I am glad you got it to work, familia
[18:01] <familia> yep thanx to u too!!
[18:33] <Araneidae> Just upgraded to 9.4 -- and I don't seem to have any sound, or any sign of tools for configuring sound!
[18:33] <charlie-tca> do you have a speaker on the panel?
[18:33] <Araneidae> No!
[18:34] <Araneidae> Very odd...
[18:34] <charlie-tca> right-click the panel, add new items, add the mixer
[18:34] <charlie-tca> then double-click the speaker, and add the controls or unmute the controls.
[18:35] <Araneidae> "No controls visible"
[18:35] <charlie-tca> This is Xfce 4.6 default. you have to customize it to fit you
[18:35] <charlie-tca> click select controls and add the master, at least
[18:35] <Araneidae> Oh good grief!
[18:35] <Araneidae> Thank you...
[18:35] <charlie-tca> no problem
[18:36] <charlie-tca> It's different, for sure
[18:36] <charlie-tca> Even more different, if you start with gnome
[18:36] <Araneidae> Hmm.  Still can't hear anything ... but that might be a wine+pulseaudio issue.  Guess I need something else that makes noises.,..
[18:36] <Araneidae> Ah.  Stupid thing was muted by default
[18:37] <Araneidae> That seems a completely loony default state.  How did that happen?
[18:37] <charlie-tca> Don't know, but Xubuntu does not use pulseaudio by default
[18:38] <Araneidae> That's fine, that's a red herring (saw pulseaudio in the dropdown list)
[18:38] <Araneidae> But why is my default desktop silent?
[18:38] <charlie-tca> I don't know why it is silent. If you see pulseaudio, something you added installed it.
[18:39] <Araneidae> Yes, the "Sound card:" dropdown offers Alsa, OSS and PulseAudio mixers
[18:40] <Araneidae> Oh God -- sound is absolutely terrible!
[18:40] <Araneidae> Yep, got to uninstall pulseaudio again
[18:42] <Araneidae> Ah: this box has had ubuntu-desktop before I upgraded to xubunut
[18:42] <charlie-tca> That will do it. Ubuntu has pulseaudio by default
[18:45] <J_Litewski> Xubuntu works great with ALSA
[18:45] <Araneidae> That's better
[18:45] <Araneidae> Now to try the sound again...
[18:46] <Araneidae> 1e6 times better :D
[18:48] <Roylap> Im about to install xubuntu. Does it always install GRUB?
[18:49] <J_Litewski> RoyLap, i think so. I believe it can use LILO too, but i'm not sure
[18:49] <Roylap> or only if you choose "Install side by side" in partion step. (multi-boot system)
[18:50] <Roylap> couse that got me confused since I maid it so the partition i wanted to install on was selected by choosing "Choose largest unformated space"
[18:51] <Roylap> otherwize it would just want to either install and shrink my C: drive or my other ntsf drives
[18:52] <Roylap> J_Litewski: any thoughts on that :) ?
[18:53] <J_Litewski> I overwritten my Windows install because my Dell hates it
[18:53] <Roylap> oh :)
[18:53] <J_Litewski> but, i believe xubuntu installs GRUB
[18:53] <SiDi> it does
[18:54] <J_Litewski> i'm not sure if it installs GRUB if another bootloader is installed
[18:54] <SiDi> charlie-tca: did you have any particular trouble while testing the xubuntu iso in vm's ? i'm almost always failing to install at 82% : analysing the mirror
[18:54] <Roylap> then I hope all will go well
[18:54] <SiDi> It'll install the bootloader , no worries
[18:54] <SiDi> at best vista will even refuse to let you boot it from grub
[18:55] <SiDi> and thus you'll be stuck with ubuntu forever
[18:55] <J_Litewski> sweet
[18:55] <Roylap> I have xp pro sp2
[18:55] <SiDi> damn
[18:55] <J_Litewski> i heard that win7 is multiboot compliant
[18:56] <SiDi> J_Litewski: i heard it was opensource
[18:56]  * SiDi trolls.
[18:56] <J_Litewski> SiDi, parts of it is
[18:57] <J_Litewski> the Windows core isnt, but some of the backports of win7 and Vista sp1 are
[18:57] <SiDi> where can i get the source ? :)
[18:57] <J_Litewski> not sure
[18:57] <J_Litewski> all i know is that some of the backports comply with GPLv2 or GPLv3 or some license
[18:58] <Araneidae> Hm.  How do I stop things happening when I insert a removable device?  The only thing I want to happen is the mount!
[18:58]  * SiDi doubts :D
[18:58] <SiDi> Araneidae: like, no more thunar popping up ?
[18:58] <J_Litewski> i read it on some opensource website
[18:58] <Araneidae> thunar?  Maybe
[18:58] <SiDi> Araneidae: go to the xfce properties
[18:58] <SiDi> Araneidae: and then "Removables devices and medias"
[18:59] <SiDi> or something like that :p
[18:59] <Araneidae> Also it asked me "shall I run the autorun file for you?"  You must be joking!
[18:59] <J_Litewski> heh
[18:59] <SiDi> what, you want it to run w/out asking ?
[18:59] <J_Litewski> SiDi, i made my first program :D
[19:00] <Roylap> python, perl?
[19:00] <J_Litewski> python
[19:00] <SiDi> J_Litewski: finally pushed ? XD
[19:00] <Roylap> ok
[19:00] <Araneidae> Cheers SiDi, found it: Applications -> Settings -> Removable Drives and Media
[19:00] <J_Litewski> SiDi, Pushed to www.launchpad.com/manual
[19:01] <SiDi> .net :P
[19:01] <J_Litewski> *www.launchpad.net/manual
[19:01] <J_Litewski> hur
[19:01] <SiDi> launchpad.net/reztorrent is mine ;à
[19:01] <J_Litewski> lol
[19:01] <J_Litewski> nice
[19:02] <SiDi> it'll be nicer once i built the package of the alpha
[19:02] <SiDi> it still doesnt upload properly, but it downloads (slowly but still !)
[19:02] <J_Litewski> nice
[19:02] <SiDi> takes 600 KO of memory for a Fedora torrent :)
[19:03] <J_Litewski> i pushed 0.1-050509 today (the first fully working prototype)
[19:03] <SiDi> do you use libs in order to read your pdf files ?
[19:03] <J_Litewski> it doesn't support PDF, yet
[19:04] <J_Litewski> i want it to display man files
[19:04] <J_Litewski> like man *
[19:04] <J_Litewski> i haven't figured out how to do that yet
[19:05] <J_Litewski> but it can display readonly txt files and local *ML files
[19:05] <J_Litewski> i'm installing wxWebKit to get some CSS support
[19:06] <SiDi> man files
[19:06] <J_Litewski> yea
[19:06] <SiDi> www.2NT.free.fr/host/tmp/reztorrent.1.gz
[19:06] <SiDi> Open the archive, then pick the file inside it
[19:06] <SiDi> there's a particular syntax
[19:06] <SiDi> unfortunately there are several syntaxes for the man pages
[19:06] <SiDi> so you'll have to integrate them all
[19:07] <SiDi> i guess a parser made in flex would be really adapted to that
[19:07] <SiDi> python parser would be much much more tricky imo :p
[19:08] <J_Litewski> it's still in early prototypes
[19:08] <wilsonj> hey, I just launched pidgin.. and it doesn't go to the system tray.  Am I missing something?
[19:09] <SiDi> wilsonj: you're for sure missing an icon in the systray.
[19:09]  * SiDi is out :X
[19:09] <wilsonj> SiDi, why thanks you captian obvious
[19:09] <SiDi> wilsonj: go to pidgin's preferences
[19:10] <wilsonj> SiDi, oh yeah.. think it's something in the prefs?
[19:10] <SiDi> And put the "Display icon in systray" to Always
[19:10] <wilsonj> SiDi, ahh... I got ya. Thanks
[19:10] <SiDi> You're welcome :)
[19:10] <SiDi> and sorry for the joke, couldn't resist
[19:11] <Roylap> when i try to boot win from GRUb it just says Starting up......
[19:11] <wilsonj> SiDi, np
[19:11] <Roylap> its on another pyhsicall HDD and now its now first priority
[19:14] <Roylap> I can boot win just fine but I need to select the win HDD as first boot priority before
[19:14] <Roylap> hmm I guess GRUB should have been on that drive noww that I think about it :()
[19:16] <SiDi> you should let grub do his stuff by default if you don't know how it works
[19:16] <SiDi> and i doubt someone actually knows, apart from whoever wrote it oO
[19:18] <Pres-Gas> Grub should be able to point to anything really
[19:20] <Pres-Gas> !paste
[19:22] <Pres-Gas> Roylap, See the info on paste?
[19:29] <mandragora22> hey does anyone know how to add the global panel applet to my menu panel?
[19:30] <mandragora22> hi
[19:31] <SiDi> Global panel ?
[19:32]  * SiDi is so pissed by ubiquity that he's installing ArchLinux :/
[19:32] <mandragora22> yes
[19:33] <SiDi> mandragora22: what do you mean by Global panel ? I don't understand
[19:34] <mandragora22> sorry, global panel is an applet for the menu bar
[19:34] <mandragora22> (like the menu bar in OS X)
[19:35] <SiDi> What is the menu bar ? :/
[19:36] <SiDi> I really really don't understand what you mean
[19:36] <Pres-Gas> mandragora22, I understand
[19:36] <mandragora22> you see the menu in which appears: file, edit, view, windows, help
[19:36] <mandragora22> thanx pres
[19:36] <Pres-Gas> I am IM-ing with someone who installed it...hang tight
[19:37] <mandragora22> ok
[19:38] <mandragora22> Hey sidi chech this http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[19:40] <SiDi> I see now
[19:40] <SiDi> I don't think we have that in xfce
[19:40] <SiDi> they're rewriting the whole panels atm
[19:41] <mandragora22> but I've read somewhere that it can be installed on xfce
[19:41] <mandragora22> actually I've installed it
[19:41] <mandragora22> but I can't put it to work...
[19:44] <SiDi> The packaging guide on help.ubuntu.com is horribly confusing
[19:44] <SiDi> the more i advance the more i'm sure it'll fail
[19:44] <mandragora22> lol
[19:45] <Pres-Gas> mandragora22, so I see you have the web page for the globalmenu
[19:46] <Pres-Gas> mandragora22, you will also need to install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin from the regular repos
[19:47] <Pres-Gas> That should get you going, but your miliage may vary
[19:47] <mandragora22> so i just apt-get install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin?
[19:48] <Pres-Gas> yep
[19:49] <mandragora22> ok, done
[19:49] <mandragora22> what do i do now?
[19:51] <Pres-Gas> Well, right click on your panel and select Add New Items.  You should see the xfapplet plugin.  Once you drag it in place, it should then pop up a similar box to select the gnome item you want
[19:51] <mandragora22> yes... it's done pres!
[19:51] <mandragora22> thanks a lot dude!
[19:51] <Pres-Gas> No problem
[19:51] <mandragora22> see you all then!
[19:56] <J_Litewski> i love iconarcive.com :)
[19:56] <J_Litewski> * www.iconarchive.com
[20:21] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> hi
[20:23] <knome> !hi | Relam_Xubuntu_pp
[20:24] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> i finally have xubuntu installed on powerbook 12"
[20:24] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> runs fine so far
[20:24] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> is there a theme for notbooks with small resolution?
[20:24] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> everything is so big :-D
[20:25] <knome> Relam_Xubuntu_pp, not really.
[20:25] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> mhh damn :D
[20:26] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> but its fast, very fast
[20:27] <crazygir> what's the best way to view colorized output in less?
[20:29] <Besogon> Relam_Xubuntu_pp, What resolution would you need? You should change xorg.conf. Or try http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr
[20:31] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> 1024x768
[20:31] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> i have
[20:32] <Besogon> And what do you wish?
[20:32] <Besogon> with it?
[20:32] <Besogon> 800x600?
[20:32] <Besogon> 640x480?
[20:32] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> no 1024x768
[20:32] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> that is ok
[20:33] <Relam_Xubuntu_pp> but the theme has so huge icons
[20:35] <Besogon> Right click on Desktop and change size of icons
[20:35] <Besogon> !xorg.conf
[20:37] <Besogon> Can Anyone help me with cdrecord?
[20:38] <knome> !ask | Besogon
[20:40] <Besogon> knome, OK. I have burnt DVD-RW, and I cant mount it.
[20:40] <Besogon> now
[20:40] <Besogon> !paste
[20:42] <Besogon> knome, http://paste.ubuntu.com/165094/ and  http://paste.ubuntu.com/165095/
[20:44] <knome> no idea :P
[20:45] <Besogon> knome, ISO image good. I know it for "isovfy" dont find any mistakes. Can you help me?
[20:45] <knome> i'm totally lost
[20:46] <kora> hi, just a short question, i upgraded to xfce 4.6 with jaunty and im missing the autostart dialog in systemconfig. do i have to use .config/autostart/ or is there another config menu?
[20:46] <SiDi> kora: xfce4-session-settings
[20:47] <SiDi> normally it should be there
[20:47] <knome> yes, it's moved to session settings
[20:48] <kora> ahhh alright thanks a lot, i didnt look into session and startup because the only thing to autostart were the gnome/kde libs in the last version
[20:48] <SiDi> :)
[20:48] <SiDi> you're welcome kora
[20:48] <Besogon> knome, of course I have cdrecord version "Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a59". May be the problem in it...
[20:49] <knome> Besogon, why a non-default version?
[20:49] <kora> btw is there a possibility to get rid of the "create folder / create launcher" menu you get when you right click on your desktop; in my old xfce i had only the part which is now below the application submenu
[20:51] <SiDi> you can't get the old one, alas
[20:51] <SiDi> but you can get only the appps
[20:51] <SiDi> there's an option for this in Desktop
[20:51] <Besogon> knome, I want multisession DVD and "wodim" don't use to do it. ()wodim by default
[20:52] <knome> right
[20:53] <Besogon> I going to download last stable release of the cdrecord then. If it not work, I will download Nero in my Windows.
[20:54] <knome> Besogon, did you know there is GUI burners in linux also, you don't need to use cdrecord from the CLI :P
[20:56] <Besogon> knome, K3B it is only GUI for cdrecord and Brasero bad work everytime. I used to K3B in ubuntu 7.10. cdrecord very usefull program for me. And fast too...
[20:57] <knome> Besogon, you can use K3B in xubuntu also.
[20:59] <Besogon> knome, Iyes I can. But when I use cdrecord I am creating image and cleaning my dvd in one time. I use notepad with standart string to do it. It not hard. (For wodim it worked)
[21:00] <knome> Besogon, i see.
[21:00] <knome> Besogon, however i don't see how windows gui is better than linux gui, but whatever :P
[21:03] <Besogon> wodim created non-multisession dvd. Nero is reliables thing. I have Linux only at home. All my frends use WinXP. Nero work better you know
[21:04] <Besogon> knome, And What do you use for burn dvd/cd?
[21:05] <knome> Besogon, i don't burn cd's or dvd's
[21:05] <Besogon> I dare say k3b )
[21:06] <knome> if i do, i use brasero
[21:06] <knome> but that is very very rare
[21:06] <knome> like once in a year maybe
[21:07] <Besogon> knome, do you use a flash disk dont you?
[21:07] <knome> not much either
[21:07] <knome> i use the internet
[21:10] <Besogon> :)  heehe. How do you watch new films then? Dont your frends give you NEW films? Or you buy it like good boy?
[21:11] <Besogon> don't be offended
[21:11] <mandragora22> hey
[21:11] <knome> lol, i watch really little films. i mostly listen to music, which i buy
[21:11] <mandragora22> Pres-gas u busy?
[21:12] <mandragora22> or anyone, that knows how to set up the gnome-globalmenu?
[21:13] <Besogon> mandragora22, Make lokal menu by alacarte and copy it like global files.
[21:14] <mandragora22> sorry, how's that?
[21:14] <Besogon> I am so thinking! )
[21:14] <mandragora22> u were joking?
[21:15] <Besogon> mandragora22, gnome menu or xfce menu do you like change?
[21:15] <mandragora22> it's a menu bar called gnome-globalmenu
[21:16] <mandragora22> it's a menu bar like the OS X one...
[21:16] <Pres-Gas> mandragora22, what is up?
[21:17] <Besogon> mandragora22, In xfce you have and use XFCE-menu (I dont know like it be in xfce 4.6, but in xfce 4 it is true).
[21:19] <Pres-Gas> Besogon, he is a return customer regarding this package: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[21:20] <mandragora22> lol
[21:20] <mandragora22> That's me
[21:20] <Pres-Gas> What is up, mandragora22?
[21:20] <mandragora22> the thing is, now that I've got it installed and running it doesn't show the menu at all
[21:21] <Besogon> mandragora22, sorry then
[21:21] <mandragora22> it just shows an arrow pointing down
[21:21] <mandragora22> when click on it... og
[21:24] <Pres-Gas> mandragora22, what happens when you right click on it?
[21:27] <mandragora22> when I click the arrow everything appears,
[21:27] <mandragora22> I mean it's like a submenu
[21:27] <mandragora22> hold I'll show u
[21:27] <Pres-Gas> k
[21:28] <mandragora22> how do i take a screenshot?
[21:29] <Pres-Gas> mandragora22, hit the "print screen" button
[21:31] <mandragora22> but it doesn't work if I click the menu
[21:33] <Besogon> See it in menu.
[21:33] <Pres-Gas> In "Accessories" there is a screenshot utility...give it a time delay and then click the menu before it takes the shot
[21:34] <mandragora22> http://i42.tinypic.com/1605vuu.png
[21:34] <mandragora22> that's how it looks
[21:35] <Pres-Gas> right, so what happens if you click or right click on that menu?
[21:35] <mandragora22> this is when I click on the arrow
[21:35] <mandragora22> http://i40.tinypic.com/15mg51k.png
[21:36] <mandragora22> if i just click on the name shows the window actions
[21:36] <mandragora22> if I right click shows me the pref panel
[21:37] <Pres-Gas> mandragora22, it looks like it is generally doing what you want...but just not across the top of the bar.  I suggest posting to the forums in the code.google.com page
[21:37] <Pres-Gas> project page
[21:37] <Pres-Gas> sorry
[21:38] <mandragora22> Ok then... thanx a lot... going there now.
[21:38] <mandragora22> see you. Bye
[22:00] <Gandhi> Hi. I'm having trouble connecting to a wireless WEP network in Ubuntu 9.04 due to an incompatible adaptor, however I have a laptop with Xubuntu Hardy Heron, which works fine. I was wondering if it'd be possible to have the laptop connected to the wireless network, and to this computer via an ethernet cable, acting as a bridge/server(whatever you call it)? Does that seem remotely feasible? Otherwise, as far as I can see, my
[22:02] <SiDi> it's doable afaik
[22:02] <SiDi> But i don't know how exactly :p
[22:03] <SiDi> i fail at setting the DNS when i do this
[22:03] <Gandhi> so far I havent come accross anyone who says "sure! That's easy" :s
[22:04] <Gandhi> really, I'd need someone to hold my hand through it.
[22:05] <SiDi> Well it's basic routing actually ^^ i'm very good at the theoretical part of this, but not at the practical one :)
[22:05] <Gandhi> oh right, hehe
[22:05] <SiDi> In addition to the laptop's wifi network, you'll have to configure an ethernet network
[22:05] <SiDi> you can do this part with the nm-applet's connection editor
[22:05] <SiDi> you don't really need dhcp for 2 machines
[22:05] <Gandhi> well yeah, insofar as it's "puta here, puta there, router o're yonder" I'm pretty awsome at it too :p
[22:06] <Gandhi> nm applet, huh.
[22:06] <SiDi> once your two machines are connected via ethernet, you need to modify the /etc/resolv.conf files to set the DNS server's IP (i recommand you to use opendns so you dont need to bother
[22:06] <SiDi> then you have to change the firewall rules of your laptop to allow external traffic for your desktop :P
[22:07] <SiDi> There *should* be iptables tutorials on the wiki
[22:07] <Gandhi> Hrm. Do you recon this is actually doable? If so, I'll dig the laptop out, connect the wireless adaptor to it, come in here and carry on pesting you.
[22:07] <SiDi> I wont be of much help
[22:07] <Gandhi> auw
[22:07] <SiDi> It took me several days to configure a router with a lot of tutorials under hand :P
[22:08] <Gandhi> arh. But at least you speak the same language.
[22:08] <Gandhi> sytnatically, that is.
[22:08] <SiDi> yeh, but i cant translate iptable to human
[22:08] <SiDi> i only speak human
[22:09] <Gandhi> Yeh. Otherwise you could just stick the cable in your ear.
[22:10] <SiDi> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[22:10] <Gandhi> hohum. What to do now. I've more or less given up hope that I could get Ubuntu talking to the WEP network with this adaptor.
[22:10] <SiDi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[22:10] <SiDi> These are the two tutorials i needed
[22:10] <Gandhi> Cheers, SiDi. I shall browse.
[22:10] <SiDi> the second one rocks :P
[22:10] <Gandhi> aight
[22:11] <SiDi> The DHCP/Firewall parts are reasy to do too
[22:11] <SiDi> the problem is that a router is meant to always run
[22:11] <SiDi> and then you write an init script for your firewall / etc incase of restart
[22:11] <SiDi> that doesnt fit much with the usecase of laptops
[22:13] <SiDi> Gandhi: gonna upload you an archive with some tutorials i grabbed here n there
[22:13] <SiDi> i cant get you my firewall script cause its on a VM of which i archived the virtual disk :P
[22:13] <Gandhi> ooh cheers
[22:16] <SiDi> www.2nt.free.fr/host/tmp/Routage.tar.gz Gandhi
[22:16] <SiDi> tell me when you have it so i can remove it please
[22:20] <Gandhi2> I'm really sorry, SiDi, but my connection is messing with me. I missed anything you may have said since the last time I said anything.
[22:21] <SiDi> oh
[22:21] <SiDi> www.2nt.free.fr/host/tmp/Routage.tar.gz Gandhi
[22:21] <SiDi> tell me when you have it so i can remove it please
[22:21] <SiDi> ;p
[22:21] <Gandhi2> righto
[22:21]  * Gandhi2 kicks Gandhi in the knadgers. Get out of here, ghost.
[22:22] <Gandhi2> Thanks, SiDi, I've got it :)
[22:22] <SiDi> ln -s Gandhi Gandhi2
[22:22] <SiDi> kick it again plox !
[22:22]  * Gandhi2 kicks Gandhi
[22:22] <SiDi> How was it ? :O
[22:22] <SiDi> I linked it to you ! You kicked yourself :O
[22:24] <Gandhi3> oh good grief, this connection is awful.
[22:24] <Gandhi3> The other two are ghosts now.
[22:24] <SiDi> This channel is for Xubuntu support, not for ghosts !
[22:24] <SiDi> Vade Retro !
[22:25] <SiDi> sudo vade-retro gandhi*
[22:25] <Gandhi3> They'll time out soon, won't they? :s
[22:25] <Gandhi3> Sorry, what are these incantations you're chanting at me?
[22:25] <Gandhi3> Some kind of banishment spell?
[22:25] <SiDi> it was the idea yeh
[22:25] <J_Litewski> lol
[22:25] <Gandhi3> Oh right. Well, I'm sure the ghosts are absolutely mortified.
[22:26] <Gandhi3> In fact, they're SO scared, they're frozen in place, which is why they havent TIMED OUT yet.
[22:26]  * J_Litewski holds back the impulse to act like an idiot
[22:27] <Gandhi3> I'd better say goodbye now, and thanks for the help, in case it happens again (it probably will). Having three ghosts would be too embarassing.
[22:32] <SiDi> Well, see you then :P
[22:32] <SiDi> J_Litewski: you shouldnt hold such impulse.
[22:32] <SiDi> i'd feel less lonely
[23:02] <Firefishe> 'ello, all. :)  I'm using ubuntu 8.10, and have installed xfce4.  I created a new user recently, and xfce seems to be running fine on that one, using only the xfce window manager, thunar, and such.  However, my normal user--the one I created when I first installed 8.10--although it also uses xfce, it always brings up the gnome icons and uses nautilus as the default file manager.
[23:03] <Firefishe> How can I configure my normal user to use only xfce-based apps when logged into a xfce session?
[23:05] <J_Litewski> lol Sidi
[23:07] <SiDi> Firefishe: did you only install the xfce package ?
[23:07] <SiDi> Firefishe: i think you should install xubuntu-desktop then, it'll add the default xubuntu settings to your xfce session
[23:08] <Firefishe> SiDi:  I started with xubuntu-desktop, but I had problems with it even starting up, at first.  I'm running kde 4.2.2, gnome, and xfce4, so who knows what was causing  the login to crash.  My new user works just fine.
[23:09] <Firefishe> I uninstalled (purged) all of xfce
[23:09] <Firefishe> everything
[23:09] <Firefishe> and then I just did:  sudo apt-get install xfce4
[23:09] <SiDi> Another workaround is to set the folders to be opened with thunar :P
[23:09] <SiDi> erm
[23:09] <SiDi> you should have reinstalled xubuntu instead imo
[23:10] <SiDi> try sudo apt-get reinstall xubuntu-default-settings
[23:10] <SiDi> and xubuntu-artwork
[23:10] <SiDi> compulsory !
[23:10] <Firefishe> SiDi:  I tried doing the file manager selection, but it kept defaulting back to Nautilus
[23:10] <Firefishe> it wouldn't save the session info
[23:11] <Firefishe> I can try those two items and see what goes.  I'm in xubuntu now, so I'd probably want to log out ;)
[23:11] <Firefishe> and use kde or something
[23:11] <Firefishe> or console, whatevah
[23:11] <Firefishe> xubuntu-default-settings and xubuntu-artwork?
[23:13] <Firefishe> I'll try that and see what happens
[23:17] <Firefishe> SiDi: Hi again.  I'm in irssi.  I tried the command sequence:  sudo apt-get reinstall xubuntu-default-settings xubuntu-artwork, and got:  E: Unknown command reinstall
[23:19] <lukinfore> you might mean apt-get install --reinstall
[23:20] <Firefishe> ah, okay
[23:20] <Firefishe> I was thinking it might be a flag, like --purge
[23:20] <Firefishe> thank you, lukinfore
[23:20] <Firefishe> :)..makes me happy as a clam
[23:23] <lukinfore> would be great if anyone tell me how to recover broken cd
[23:23] <lukinfore> if it even not recognized as media
[23:23] <lukinfore> what target for dd should i use?
[23:25] <SiDi> sorry Firefishe i'm too used to aptitude's syntax
[23:25] <SiDi> Firefishe: about your settings being reset, please chown <yourname> .config -R
[23:25] <SiDi> from shell
[23:39] <Firefishe> I just did the following to my system:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-default-settings xubuntu-artwork  |  When I log in, I get a dialog/error box that says I was only able to keep my desktop up for less than ten seconds.  It references my ~/.xsession-error file, pasted here:  http://rafb.net/p/Rwd4oj39.html
[23:41] <Firefishe> I have a recently made new user (yesterday) that logs into xubuntu just fine, uses the xfce window manager, file manager, and other desktop settings properly.
[23:48] <tmurase> How did you login?  Did you choose xfce as your session?
[23:49] <Firefishe> yes
[23:49] <Firefishe> I use gdm as the manager
[23:50] <Firefishe> I have a newly created user that logs in properly.  Gives me what appears, to me, to be the default xfce desktop, with xfce logo/wallpaper, etc.
[23:50] <tmurase> You moved from gnome to xfce?
[23:50] <Firefishe> but when I use my main user--the one I log into gnome, kde 4.2.2, and everything else with, it gives me that error.
[23:50] <Firefishe> I'm running both
[23:50] <tmurase> have you tried with the failsafe session?
[23:50] <Firefishe> I've run both before in previous versions of ubuntu, with no problem
[23:52] <Firefishe> tmurase:  yes, I did.  I have one other issue in that arena:  The new user uses normal xfce settings; window manager, thunar for file managment, etc.  When I select xfce and my normal user from gdm--when it allows me to log in--the gnome/nautilus icons are on the xfce desktop.
[23:52] <Firefishe> sorry, I'
[23:52] <Firefishe> I"m typing slow tonight
[23:52] <tmurase> failsafe booted you back to gdm after 10 seconds?
[23:52] <Firefishe> no
[23:53] <Firefishe> normal login, selecting xfce as session in gdm
[23:53] <tmurase> You don't have a custom .Xsession on your main user, correct?
[23:54] <vidd> anyone figure out how to customize the menu yet?
[23:54] <Firefishe> tmurase:  Not of which I'm aware.  I use gnome and kde 4.2.2 and they work just fine, no x problems.  FluxBox works flawlessly (I"m on it now).  Only xfce and my normal user seem weird.
[23:55] <Firefishe> I am using the proprietary driver for my ati card--fglrx--but I wouldn't think that'd do anything
[23:56] <Firefishe> tmurase:  I seem to have some messages with update-notifier and something about /tmp/orbit-xxx something or other.,
[23:56] <Firefishe> If you looked at that paste of mine, that user is my new user that has no problems