[00:01] <wqdwq> hi, i need help plz
[00:02] <reinciando> canal para españa
[00:02] <reinciando> ?
[00:03] <wqdwq> no one!
[00:12] <ahmos> hi, when i try to open terminal konsole i get screen is terminating, then the window close quickly ,so any ideas please?
[00:13] <neoandersen> hello I need help
[00:14] <suraj> h
[00:14] <neoandersen> I tried to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and now my X interface isn't estarting anymore...
[00:16] <neoandersen> there say that the nvidia kernel module is with a diferent version than the nvidia driver
[00:18] <neoandersen> I guess that the problem had happenned because I have ubuntu studio installed over Ubuntu...
[00:21] <ahmos> any help please
[00:21] <neoandersen> how to make the Nvidia kernel module version the same version as Nvidia driver version?
[00:22] <Kris> When I try and activate my graphics card drivers, it just sits and doesnt do anything, I would appreciate any help.
[00:23] <neoandersen> I have removed all Nvidia stuff using aptitude but then when I have just installed the Nvidia-glx-180 the same version problem returned...
[00:23] <neoandersen> I guess it must be another X problem too...
[00:24] <neoandersen> I need help : (
[00:25] <Kris> Me too :)
[00:25] <Kris> Seems everyones sleeping.......
[00:25] <neoandersen> It may be that all the 314 Users online here are needing help...
[00:26] <Kris> Naw, people log on and go afk. Most these people aren't here.
[00:26] <neoandersen> how long have you been using linux?
[00:27] <Kris> Few days.
[00:27] <neoandersen> I have about a year...
[00:27] <Kris> Maybe you can help me.
[00:27] <neoandersen> maybe
[00:27] <neoandersen> what is the matter?
[00:27] <Kris> I just installed kubuntu for the second time, the first time I could update my graphics drivers fine
[00:27] <Kris> but now it doesnt do anything it just sits there.
[00:28] <neoandersen> well I have Ubuntu studio and kubuntu
[00:29] <neoandersen> last month I type this command and it worked fine here: sudo aptitude nvidia-glx-180
[00:29] <neoandersen> no
[00:30] <neoandersen> the correct is: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-180
[00:30] <Kris> There you go, your problem seems solved :-/
[00:31] <embraceunity> we need to start a petition to get K*armic K*oala to use the K* Desktop environment. They are looking for a "new look" and I think KDE 4.3 would do nicely :)
[00:31] <Kris> Ahaa and I fixed my problem...
[00:31] <Kris> :) Thanks anyway neo.
[00:31] <neoandersen> how?
[00:31] <ranger> Hay there i need some  help.
[00:31] <ranger> I got a new comuptre and instaled Linux and need Firefox.
[00:32] <Kris> Killed the process in the system monitor, then went back into it and loaded again seems to work now even though i did that before...
[00:32] <ranger> Wars do i get it?
[00:32] <embraceunity> press
[00:32] <embraceunity> Alt + F2
[00:32] <embraceunity> ranger
[00:32] <neoandersen> wich linux?
[00:32] <embraceunity> and then type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[00:32] <neoandersen> Ubuntu?
[00:32] <Kris> Thanks embrace i wanted FF too :P
[00:32] <Kris> Save me time ;D
[00:33] <embraceunity> np
[00:33] <Kris> <3 love you all./
[00:33] <neoandersen> help, help, help
[00:34] <ranger> Yes
[00:34] <embraceunity> sorry i meant press Alt + F2 and type "Konsole" then type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[00:34] <embraceunity> sorry guys
[00:34] <embraceunity> unless that worked.... then im not sorry
[00:34] <neoandersen> give me a command to continue my upgrade because there is and error and now I haven't X anymore...
[00:35] <embraceunity> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:35] <ranger> O.K,.  I got it
[00:35] <ranger> TY
[00:36] <neoandersen> this command sudo dpkg --configure -a is for me embraceunity?
[00:36] <embraceunity> yea
[00:36] <embraceunity> sorry for not saying your name, neo
[00:36] <neoandersen> thanks
[00:36] <neoandersen> you are very fast!
[00:36] <embraceunity> :D
[00:47] <alexx> hi
[00:47] <embraceunity> hello
[00:47] <alexx> :)
[00:47] <alexx> i'm spanish,
[00:47] <alexx> sorry for my english
[00:47] <alexx> how are you?
[00:47] <embraceunity> I'm well
[00:47] <embraceunity> finals are killing me though
[00:48] <alexx> sorry, don't understand.
[00:48] <alexx> where are you from?
[00:48] <embraceunity> school work
[00:48] <embraceunity> I'm from the US
[00:48] <alexx> yes, state?
[00:48] <embraceunity> Illinois
[00:48] <alexx> city?
[00:49] <embraceunity> Chicago
[00:49] <alexx> only see illinois, in prison break
[00:49] <alexx> oh, nice city.
[00:49] <alexx> do you like the bulls?
[00:49] <embraceunity> im not a sports fan
[00:49] <embraceunity> though when I was young, I was a big Michael Jordan fan
[00:50] <alexx> you knows barcelona?
[00:50] <embraceunity> sure
[00:50] <alexx> i'm from barcelona,
[00:50] <embraceunity> beautiful place, I hear
[00:50] <alexx> jeje,
[00:50] <alexx> do you love chicago?
[00:50] <embraceunity> yes I do
[00:51] <alexx> what is your favourites places?
[00:51] <embraceunity> ummm
[00:51] <embraceunity> the lake
[00:52] <alexx> yes,
[00:52] <embraceunity> and the food
[00:52] <embraceunity> and the art institute
[00:52] <alexx> jajajaj
[00:52] <alexx> the food?
[00:52] <embraceunity> wicker park is cool too
[00:52] <embraceunity> food is great
[00:52] <embraceunity> just went to Berghoff's
[00:52] <alexx> you are student?
[00:52] <embraceunity> yes
[00:52] <alexx> of..
[00:52] <embraceunity> Economics
[00:53] <alexx> oh my god.
[00:53] <embraceunity> I hear spain just had some problems http://digg.com/linux_unix/Spain_gives_Microsoft_huge_corporate_welfare_program
[00:53] <alexx> ?
[00:53] <alexx> what is?
[00:54] <embraceunity> they are forcing people to use Microsoft
[00:54] <embraceunity> even if they have linux already and dont want to use it
[00:55] <alexx> mmm, say me your name please.
[00:55] <alexx> obviously, i'm alex.
[00:58] <olrrai> hi
[00:58] <embraceunity> hi
[00:59] <olrrai> I upgrade to ubuntu 9.04, and have no sound in kde3 apps, do u know how can I configure that? (the sound in my kde4 apps works fine)
[01:00] <embraceunity> try disabling pulseaudio
[01:00] <embraceunity> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[01:01] <olrrai> embraceunity: ok
[01:02] <embraceunity> perhaps this might be informative to you
[01:02] <embraceunity> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-bugs/2009-April/072353.html
[01:03] <embraceunity> it seems the old KDE3 sound system, aRts, is deprecated and is not installed
[01:04] <olrrai> oh
[01:04] <embraceunity> which app are you trying to run?
[01:05] <embraceunity> amarok 1.x ?
[01:06] <olrrai> embraceunity: nope, I have last amarok and works fine, because it is kde4 based
[01:06] <embraceunity> ok
[01:06] <olrrai> but kopete dont have sound
[01:06] <embraceunity> haha i personally hate kopete's sounds so that would be a feature in my opinion
[01:06] <olrrai> I use an old version of kopete because it has irc support
[01:07] <embraceunity> have you tried Quassel?
[01:07] <embraceunity> it is really nice
[01:07] <olrrai> no
[01:07] <embraceunity> kde4 based
[01:07] <olrrai> multiprotocol?
[01:07] <embraceunity> no it is just IRC
[01:08] <olrrai> I prefer all in one chat window
[01:08] <olrrai> and I configure the kopete sound like trillian
[01:08] <embraceunity> it is likely possible to manually install aRts
[01:08] <olrrai> (trillian is a w32 app)
[01:08] <embraceunity> though you may have to find a repo
[01:09] <olrrai> ok
[01:09] <bob__> Im looking for a detailed /man for aircrack-ng. Ayone know where I can find something good?
[01:12] <embraceunity> this ppa for Amarok 1.4 uses a xine engine package https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa
[01:12] <g_> anyone know how to disable internet access on ubuntu but not the network?
[01:12] <embraceunity> olrrai: perhaps there is a kopete-xine package somewhere??
[01:12] <embraceunity> g_: ifdown eth0 should work... depends on what your device is
[01:13] <olrrai> embraceunity: maybe
[01:13] <embraceunity> g_: use ifconfig to check
[01:14] <bob__> if I have the aircrack-ng suite what command do I use in konsole to find out what my wifi card is named?
[01:15] <embraceunity> lspci | grep 'wireless'
[01:15] <embraceunity> or something like that
[01:15] <g_> embraceunity the only problem is that I need network access still
[01:16] <embraceunity> bob_: lspci is the command
[01:16] <g_> I've been looking at guides for ubuntu but they are all crap and for some reason no longer work for the latest ubuntu
[01:17] <embraceunity> g_: so are you using a virtualized OS within ubuntu then?
[01:17] <bob__> thanks
[01:17] <bob__> what does does grep stand for?
[01:18] <embraceunity> i think it is a real word actually
[01:18] <bob__> like what am I asking my comp to do?
[01:18] <embraceunity> it means to parse the text and look for a line containing the string you typed in
[01:18] <embraceunity> so if there is a big long list, as with the output of lspci
[01:18] <bob__> thats good to know
[01:18] <embraceunity> lspci | grep 'Ethernet' will just return all the lines with Ethernet in them
[01:19] <embraceunity> case sensitive
[01:19] <bob__> so is lspci listing all of my pci devices?
[01:19] <embraceunity> yea
[01:19] <g_> embraceunity no I'm using the latest kubuntu
[01:19] <gg> hay i got a thing that wont shut how do i do like a ctrl alt delete
[01:20] <Feijo_BR> I updated today to 9.04, but something went wrong.  I cant open several programs, like konsole !!!
[01:20] <embraceunity> g_: ifdown should merely disable the internet from within kubuntu, but shouldn't touch any of the other computers on the network
[01:20] <Feijo_BR> there is any cmd to the system check if its all ok?
[01:20] <gg> hay i got a thing that wont shut how do i do like a ctrl alt delete helpppppppppppppppppppp
[01:21] <g_> embraceunity what I want to do is restrict internet access but I need network access though firefox still to connect to another computer on the network which is why I can't outright limit firefox to not be able to connect
[01:21] <bob__> oh i get it now, list pci. Im still trying to figure out grep though. I know what it does but whats the long text?
[01:21] <g_> ok
[01:21] <embraceunity> Feijo_BR: try rebooting, and pressing ESC during the boot process to access grub
[01:21] <gg> um can any one see this ?
[01:21] <Feijo_BR> embraceunity: what to do with grub?
[01:21] <embraceunity> Feijo_BR: then use Recovery Mode and when it gives you a list... click Fix Problems
[01:21] <Feijo_BR> ok :)
[01:21] <Guest58643> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:22] <Feijo_BR> thanks embraceunity
[01:22] <Guest58643> im bored
[01:22] <Guest58643> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:22] <gg> can some one say yes or some thing so i no some one can see this
[01:22] <embraceunity> yes
[01:22] <g_> embraceunity so ifdown tells ubuntu that it can't use the internet but it can still use the network and connect to a webpage on another computer?
[01:22] <embraceunity> gg: yes
[01:22] <tsimpson> bob__: see "man grep" in a terminal or man:/grep in konqueror
[01:22] <Willdx> huh?
[01:23] <bob__> why is my atheros wifi card list as rev 01? Shouldn't it be ath0x?
[01:23] <tsimpson> bob__: "rev" is revision
[01:23] <gg> ok so how do i shut some thing in linux win it wont shut win i click the x
[01:23] <bob__> tsimpson: thanks
[01:24] <embraceunity> g_: no ifdown will kill access to the network card, that isn't what you are looking for
[01:25] <siddharta> hi everyone, i know i can use  "kwin --replace" to set kwin as default window manager right now, compiz is installed but i don't want it, last time i tried to removed it my system went without window borders ... question is: which command to use right now in order to know what window manager is running?
[01:26] <siddharta> i'm using kubuntu 8.04.2, KDE 3.5.10
[01:27] <embraceunity> g_: lol you could try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868030
[01:27] <embraceunity> g_: disable ipv4 lol
[01:28] <g_> embraceunity hmm that might work, although I am still accessing another computer's webpage on the network, would that affect it?
[01:28] <g_> embraceunity thanks for all your help dude
[01:29] <embraceunity> g_: Im not sure if intranet stuff uses ipv4
[01:29] <embraceunity> you could probably set it to use ipv6
[01:29] <embraceunity> and since nobody uses ipv6, that would essentially be the same thing
[01:29] <embraceunity> perhaps intranets don't use IP at all
[01:33] <afeijo> didnt work :( :(
[01:33] <embraceunity> afeijo: you mean rebooting into recovery mode?
[01:33] <afeijo> embraceunity: yes, and there there is no Try to Fix Problems
[01:34] <afeijo> I ran update dpkg, clean to release space, ...
[01:34] <embraceunity> afeijo: Im pretty sure there is something like Fix Packages or something
[01:34] <afeijo> I can use the terminal under Dolphin, but konsole dont open
[01:34] <afeijo> embraceunity: I ran that fix packages
[01:34] <embraceunity> but it just runs dpkg yea
[01:34] <afeijo> no problems no the packages
[01:34] <embraceunity> ok
[01:34] <embraceunity> well one thing that usually works is
[01:34] <embraceunity> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:34] <afeijo> KDEInit cant start '/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu'.
[01:35] <embraceunity> that ensures you have all the core packages
[01:35] <afeijo> k
[01:35] <afeijo> it says I have latest version, lol
[01:35] <afeijo> how to confirm if I have 9.04 ?
[01:35] <embraceunity> uname -a
[01:35] <siddharta> uname -a
[01:35] <embraceunity> echo echo
[01:36] <siddharta> hehehe
[01:36] <afeijo> Linux feijo-home 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 20:57:48 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:36] <embraceunity> that is intrepid's kernel
[01:36] <afeijo> after 1 hour runing updates, it didnt updated?
[01:36] <embraceunity> try sudo apt-get install 2.6.28*
[01:36] <afeijo> update-manager dont offer me the new version
[01:37] <afeijo> conflicts found !
[01:37] <afeijo> linux-doc-2.6.28: Conflict: linux-doc-2.6
[01:37] <embraceunity> try
[01:37] <embraceunity> update-notifier-kde -u
[01:38] <afeijo> no updates
[01:38] <embraceunity> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:38] <embraceunity> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:38] <embraceunity> aptitude sometimes does weird package corrections
[01:38] <afeijo> 0 updates :( omg
[01:38] <embraceunity> even with aptitude?
[01:39] <afeijo> y
[01:39] <FloridaGuy> isent a LCD supose to have a better picture then an the monitor that is deep from front to back.....have a sony lcd and a older monitor....picture look just as good....dual monitor on twinview
[01:40] <embraceunity> FloridaGuy: CRT monitors are better in certain ways... better viewing radius, better resolution
[01:40] <embraceunity> FloridaGuy: Though OLED will make both look like crap
[01:41] <FloridaGuy> embraceunity, whats oled something new
[01:41] <afeijo> embraceunity: I have to do a fresh install with kubuntu 9 livecd?
[01:41] <embraceunity> FloridaGuy: Yea, OLED is Organic LEDs. It is higher contrast, better color, higher refresh rate and response time, etc
[01:42] <embraceunity> FloridaGuy: oh, and it is lower power and better for the environment. some phones have OLED screens and thus have super long battery life
[01:42] <FloridaGuy> so it is right now $$$$
[01:42] <embraceunity> yea :(
[01:43] <embraceunity> sony makes an 11 inch OLED monitor for like 1000 and Samsung makes OLED phones... even an Android phone will be coming out with it real soon
[01:43] <embraceunity> the phones aren't as ridiculously priced though
[01:43] <FloridaGuy> but my LCD a bought at a pawn shop for $100....read some reviews on it...people say its to shiney on a scrren
[01:44] <embraceunity> I'd say you got ripped off
[01:44] <embraceunity> a used LCD is not worth 100 bucks, unless it's like 25 inches or something
[01:45] <FloridaGuy> its got a great picture......alot better then my old crt....but this crt emachine monitor rgat someone thru out...looks just as good
[01:45] <olrrai> see u later
[01:45] <embraceunity> afeijo: any luck?
[01:46] <FloridaGuy> this one is 19 inch
[01:46] <embraceunity> afeijo: did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[01:47] <ag3ntr3d> hello everyone
[01:47] <FloridaGuy> sony SDM-HS75
[01:47] <embraceunity> ag3ntr3d: hello
[01:54] <gg> can some one help me ?
[01:54] <embraceunity> gg: ok
[01:55] <gg> is there a way for me to just talk to u ?
[02:09] <ahmos> hi, i installed kubuntu into windows ,now i want to give partitions permission for my default user
[02:12] <purpleposeidon> Where's the autojoin list on Quassel?
[02:12] <ahmos> so any help please
[02:16] <doleyb> !ntfs | ahmos
[02:23] <FloridaGuy> what package am i missing to install downloaded deb packages
[02:24] <wirechief_> dpkg -i  packagename
[02:25] <purpleposeidon> Qquassel
[02:25] <purpleposeidon> !quassel
[02:25] <cuznt> quassell is great
[02:27] <andrea2030> how can i make konqueror direct irc links to an application?
[02:35] <xisorshadow> can anyone help me figure out if i have 3d working or not? i just installed this with wubi
[02:37] <xisorshadow> um
[02:40] <afeijo> embraceunity: no, runing now
[02:40] <andrea2030> gconftool-2 is a gui configuration tool for gnome, is there a gui based one for kde4?
[02:41] <afeijo> what is console-setup with A4Tech KB-21 or A4Tech KBS-8 options?
[02:41] <dylan_> hey. i need a xorg.conf expert. my file, under monitor, and screen states identifier as "default screen", monitor as "configured monitor" and device as "configured monitor". i looking online at other files from other ubuntu users, and it always lists information such as the monitors actual name. for ex. "DELL M782p" and also lists many resolutions settings. like "modeline "1280x1024@60"... my xorg.conf file has none of this information,
[02:41] <dylan_> and i beleive this is why i am unable to change my screen resolution in system-display
[02:42] <embraceunity> dylan_: you shouldn't even need an xorg.conf file specified in the current version of xorg
[02:42] <embraceunity> dylan_: your problem is probably related to monitor or graphics card drivers
[02:43] <embraceunity> what graphics card are you using?
[02:43] <froggie> why does amule have low id, even though i forward ports on the router.  it's not the ISP, becuase i dont have low id with out the routher. whats wrong with amule.
[02:44] <dylan_> embraceunity: i have explored the driver rout. could there be another reason ?
[02:45] <afeijo> embraceunity: wow that cmd dont stop asking a lot of weird questions
[02:46] <embraceunity> afeijo: lol yea, but it is a fun learning experience... at least the first time
[02:46] <aib>  how can i log a new user into a kde session remotely?
[02:47] <embraceunity> dylan_: check out this page http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/xorg.conf-custom-screen-resolution-444052/
[02:48] <embraceunity> you'll probably want to set your modes according to what the native resolution of your monitor is... and if it is a relatively recent monitor... the depth should be 32
[02:48] <embraceunity> so in the Section "Screen" type
[02:48] <embraceunity>     SubSection     "Display"
[02:48] <embraceunity>         Depth       32
[02:48] <embraceunity>         Modes      "1400x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:48] <embraceunity>     EndSubSection
[02:49] <embraceunity> or some such thing
[02:49] <embraceunity> dylan_: look up the native resolution of your monitor
[02:50] <embraceunity> dylan_: then set the modes accordingly
[02:50] <embraceunity> under the Section "Screen" type:
[02:50] <embraceunity>     SubSection     "Display"
[02:50] <embraceunity>         Depth       32
[02:50] <embraceunity>         Modes      "1400x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:50] <embraceunity>     EndSubSection
[02:50] <embraceunity> or something like that
[02:50] <afeijo> do you guys like text games?
[02:51] <dylan_> embraceunity: the native resolution is 1280x1024
[02:52] <embraceunity> dylan_: then do this:
[02:52] <embraceunity>     SubSection     "Display"
[02:52] <embraceunity>         Depth       32
[02:52] <embraceunity>         Modes      "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:52] <embraceunity>     EndSubSection
[02:52] <embraceunity> err
[02:52] <embraceunity>     SubSection     "Display"
[02:52] <embraceunity>         Depth       32
[02:52] <embraceunity>         Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[02:52] <embraceunity>     EndSubSection
[02:54] <Pici> Please use a pastebin
[02:54] <Pici> !paste
[02:55] <dylan_> embraceunity: the subsections are: "monitor", and "screen". should i create subsection "display" ?
[02:55] <embraceunity> you need to put that stuff within the Screen section
[03:01] <qiyong> how do i query when a pkg was installed?
[03:18] <doleyb> qiyong: Maybe you can't, maybe /var/log/apt will be slightly helpful.
[03:22] <nicnic> what happens on this channel?
[03:23] <doleyb> nicnic: people ask questions about kubuntu, then people tell them to go to #ubuntu or #kde, depending.
[03:24] <nicnic> I'm not smart enough to ask a reasonable question yet
[03:25] <doleyb> ok nicnic, i will ask a question instead, so you can compare:
[03:25] <doleyb> Hi, where is my install cd?
[03:25] <nicnic> on the internet until you download and make a copy on cd?
[03:29] <nicnic> doesn't anyone converse on this channel?
[03:31] <p8quarles> nicnic: it's not a chat channel; it's for support questions
[03:32] <nicnic> where do you see the questions asked?
[03:33] <doleyb> nicnic: There haven't been questions in the past 30 minutes.  But!  For you, I will ask a real question:
[03:33] <doleyb> Hi, how can I get gtk programs (including firefox) to stop making silly beeps when I click buttons?
[03:34] <nicnic> I don't know, but I would like to ask a question...
[03:34] <ramon> hi all...could anybody help me please?
[03:35] <doleyb> ramon: Maybe!  Go ahead and ask questions, with some details.
[03:35] <ramon> i have a new hard disc installed in my computer..i need to format it...i read about gparted...
[03:35] <ramon> i opened it with KDESU gparted
[03:37] <dylan_> car ramrod
[03:37] <ramon> i need to format it with NTFS, but i not appears for me, do you know why?
[03:38] <doleyb> ramon: Well I think it's because ntfs is an undocumented/patented/secret microsoft format, which linux software can only barely support with some marginal rw access, but can't create or repair.
[03:38] <doleyb> ramon: Normally people only need to create NTFS if they want to connect it to Microsoft(tm) Windows(r) systems, so they just go there and format it.
[03:39] <ramon> mm...so i can format it with FAT32 and than enter windows and format with NTFS?
[03:39] <doleyb> ramon: If you don't have a windows computer.. there are some livecds (or floppies) you can download...
[03:39] <doleyb> ramon: Well you can, but if you're gonna reformat it in windows, then you don't need to format it as anything first.
[03:39] <doleyb> ramon: Do you dual-boot?
[03:40] <ramon> mm understood...Ok dolyeb thanks a lot!!!
[03:40] <ramon> yess
[03:40] <ramon> win and Kubuntu
[03:40] <ramon> i will enter windows
[03:42] <nicnic> doleyb: will ubuntu 8.04 system use the windows wireless card driver for windows to set up wireless netwkg on linux computer?
[03:43] <doleyb> nicnic: Well it's possible, i don't know exactly how.  You can ask without my name in the front, as a way to show that anyone can answer.
[03:43] <doleyb> nicnic: Also since that question isn't much about kde, you can ask it in #ubuntu, which gets more traffic.
[03:44] <p8quarles> nicnic: depends on the card
[03:45] <nicnic> its a d-link dwl-g520 from 2003 (802.11 type I think)works great on windows XP but want it to work on dual-boot 8.04 ubuntu also
[03:48] <p8quarles> nicnic: yeah, google tells me that people seem to be using ndiswrapper and the windows driver for that card
[03:49] <doleyb> !ndiswrapper | nicnic
[04:02] <tomsdale> Has anyone else performance issues on kubuntu jaunty? 30% load for an idle system is just ridiculous.
[04:03] <doleyb> tomsdale: what process is loading you?  is it kded?
[04:03] <tomsdale> kwin plasma Xorg, sometimes kwin Xorg Plasma
[04:04] <doleyb> tomsdale: Do you know if you have any plasmoids added?  Do you have desktop fx on?
[04:04] <tomsdale> doleyb: I tried disableing kwin effects but no joy - my system is quite recent, Nvidia quattro 160m and 2.5 GHz CPU
[04:05] <tomsdale> If I disable desktop effects with Shift + Alt F12 it doesnt change much
[04:05] <doleyb> tomsdale: how long ago did you upgrade?  is this your first login?
[04:05] <tomsdale> I have 3 plasmoids added, is there a way of tracking the performance of each
[04:06] <tomsdale> actually im on jaunty since Alpha 5.
[04:06] <doleyb> tomsdale: It looks to me like all plasmoids are in one process, so you can't tell without iteratively removing each of them.  (What are they that you use btw?)
[04:06] <tomsdale> its the most recent upgrade though.
[04:06] <tomsdale> customisable weahter, cpu monitor and folder view
[04:07] <tomsdale> let me disable them - actually your right - it might coinsident with the weather plugin.
[04:07] <doleyb> Well for an experiment you can take them out and see if it's helpful.  I have a fear that plasmoids are a poorly designed (or just immature) system.
[04:07] <wizardslovak> this is making me mad
[04:08] <wizardslovak> how can i setup konversation to open website with firefox instead koqueror
[04:08] <tomsdale> doleyb: I thkn you are right. my cpu load dropped by quite a bit after removing the system monitor plasma
[04:08] <doleyb> wizardslovak: did you try System Settings, Default Applications
[04:09] <doleyb> tomsdale: *nix GUI system monitors have a shameful history of consuming serious resources on their own...
[04:09] <wizardslovak> oo
[04:09] <wizardslovak> thank you
[04:09] <tomsdale> so I realized in Gnome, I run now htop for monitoring and Im ideling around 10-15%
[04:10] <afeijo> hey mate
[04:10] <afeijo> I'm screwd
[04:10] <doleyb> tomsdale: htop itself uses measurably more cycles than top...
[04:11] <tomsdale> doleyb: the plasmoids definately made a difference. Maybe because its so easy to program a lot of minor quality code gets released
[04:11] <afeijo> I ran dpkg-reconfigure, after responding a lot² of questions, and rebooting, now my keyboard and mouse dont work !!!
[04:12] <doleyb> tomsdale: Well I also think the plasmoids are so vector-graphics based, that they encourage a lot of excessive compuation just to render a few little icons.
[04:13] <tomsdale> Im down to around 10% now. Gnome still idles better but at least this is workable. I think I will stay away from a too fance desktop for the time being ...
[04:14] <tomsdale> afeijo: without a keyboard - your really screwed ...
[04:14] <tomsdale> but do you have a live cd by any chance?
[04:15] <afeijo> tomsdale: only after startx, I can access shell on recovery
[04:15] <tomsdale> I think KDE and shell have their method of setting their keyboar layouts.
[04:16] <tomsdale> realized today after configuring a french keyboard.
[04:16] <afeijo> the dpkg-reconfigure asked me a few things about keyboard, but nothing about mouse
[04:16] <tomsdale> afeijo: You can maybe have a look in /etc/X11/ whether you have an older Xorg.conf you can revert too.
[04:17] <afeijo> oh yeah I can access xorg!! thanks
[04:17] <Deekay> where can i find the icon themes i downloaded with the system settings
[04:17] <tomsdale> The thing is its now all dynamicly with this hal thing I never understood. But I think you still can fix basic things in xorg.conf
[04:17] <afeijo> omg, no backup for that file
[04:18] <by-i3rn0> how ti install compiz whith video 64mb msi (chip nvidia fx 400)
[04:18] <tomsdale> whats inside - anything weired - also does your /var/log/xorg log say anything which might give a clue
[04:18] <tomsdale> by-i3rn0: I don't think you need compiz in KDE - you have it already in system settings under desktop
[04:19] <by-i3rn0> kde-compiz installed
[04:19] <tomsdale> did it automatically for me.
[04:19] <afeijo> tomsdale: there is a lot of Xorg on /var/log
[04:20] <tomsdale> Xorg.0.log should be the latest I think
[04:21] <afeijo> tomsdale: yes, I opened it but I never did before, what should I look?
[04:22] <by-i3rn0> don`t run efects
[04:23] <tomsdale> afeijo: mine relies on HAL apparenlty, I have the message         If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
[04:24] <tomsdale> Thats where I don't get it anymore - I never understood the principles of HAL and how it configures the input devices. Anyone smart on that subject?
[04:24] <ner0x> How is kubuntu maintained?
[04:24] <tomsdale> !hal
[04:25] <tomsdale> ok, thats very general and nothing about the implementation in ubuntu
[04:27] <tomsdale> afeijo: do you see anything looking for hal in the xorg.log?
[04:27] <afeijo> no
[04:27] <ner0x> I believe I'd like to install Kubuntu but I'm not entirely sure. How "update to date" are the software packages?
[04:29] <tomsdale> ner0x: with Jaunty they are pretty recent. IMO Ubuntu is somewhere between Debian (Konservative) and Fedore ( cutting edge) if you look at the up to date factor
[04:30] <tomsdale> ner0x: up to date IMO is not always what you want if you look for a stable distribution.
[04:30] <afeijo> thats funny, now I see a lot of xorg.conf files! I will restore the last one
[04:30] <susbwoy> I believe the ubuntu packages are roughly the same versions as the debian-experimental branch. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[04:31] <tomsdale> susbwoy: no - I think you are correct. Maybe CentOS is a better example of really conservative.
[04:31] <tomsdale> or maybe SuSE
[04:32] <gg> im a bout to lose it
[04:32] <afeijo> tomsdale: is it xorg.conf or Xorg.conf ?
[04:33] <ner0x> tomsdale: I agree. I'm looking for a stable environment to start create of a perl based web application. I want to know it can be secure, offer the Catalyst Web Framework as well as KDE 4.2
[04:33] <gg> i got this this called clit18 for reading .lit files witch is a ebook but it is not working
[04:33] <tomsdale> xorg.conf afeijo
[04:34] <gg> the help file say this
[04:34] <gg> To build under Linux:
[04:34] <gg> 	cd lib
[04:34] <gg> 	make
[04:34] <gg> 	cd ../clit16
[04:34] <gg> 	make
[04:34] <gg> wtf does that mean ?
[04:35] <afeijo> tomsdale: I found the correct xorg.conf, it was changed in 09-4-29, not today
[04:35] <gg> willlllll someeeeeeee oneeeeeeeeeee helpppppppppppp me i have bin trying to get this for 4h and im pissssssssssssssssssssssst
[04:35] <tomsdale> ner0x: so you want a Desktop and a server system on the same machine?
[04:35] <ner0x> tomsdale: Correct.
[04:36] <afeijo> tomsdale: it dont have lines for mouse no keyboard
[04:36] <gg> wtf are u all not talking to meeeeeeeee
[04:36] <tomsdale> afeijo: me neither. I think this is where the hal part kicks in
[04:37] <gg> some one help me
[04:37] <tomsdale> gg: I'm not good in compiling but make is a program
[04:37] <afeijo> tomsdale: I will try with the livecd xorg.conf file
[04:37] <ner0x> gg: 1) You spammed the channel. 2) Talking like a child will get you no where. 3) Be patient.
[04:37] <genii-around> ner0x: Beat me to it :)
[04:37] <ner0x> genii-around: :)
[04:37] <tomsdale> afeijo: I think that relies even more on hal - Id try to learn more about hal and where the config files are
[04:37] <ner0x> gg: make is a program which compiles software on linux.
[04:38] <ner0x> gg: cd means "change directory" or move to a different directory.
[04:38] <ner0x> in "clit16" you should have a "Makefile" which make will execute and properly compile your program.
[04:38] <genii-around> gg: The instructions in the help file are what you type into a terminal or console after you have uncompressed the file you downloaded which contains the source code
[04:38] <susbwoy> ner0x: you want libcatalyst-perl?
[04:38] <afeijo> hey genii-around, do you know how to fix when in the kde logon screen both mouse and keyboard dont work?
[04:38] <genii-around> afeijo: Not offhand :(
[04:39] <ner0x> gg: Also, it's called "the internet" for a reason, search around. You'll never survive in linux if you don't.
[04:39] <ner0x> susbwoy: Yes, I believe that's the framework I'm looking for.
[04:39] <susbwoy> ner0x:  Kubuntu should be a wise choice for you.
[04:39] <genii-around> !compile > gg
[04:39] <ner0x> susbwoy: I'm coming from gentoo, I liked it but I"m tired of the problems it causes.
[04:40] <tomsdale> ner0x: Regarding stability I think ubuntu might still be a little more stable than kubuntu though.
[04:41] <susbwoy> ner0x: if you have an intel card, maybe consider buntu 8.10 (check release notes for more information on intel cards)
[04:42] <susbwoy> intel video card, that is
[04:42] <tomsdale> I havent spend a lot of time in ubuntu lately though, more exporing KDE
[04:42] <tomsdale> And on NVidia I still have occasional crashes I wouldnt want to have on a production machine.
[04:44] <ner0x> susbwoy: Nvidia
[04:44] <ner0x> susbwoy: ubuntu uses gnome? I hate gnome. :)
[04:44] <susbwoy> ner0x: should be fine. I have Nvidia too. No crashes caused from the free drivers, havent 'upgraded' to the binary drivers yet.
[04:45] <ner0x> susbwoy: I've been using the nvidia drivers for as long as I've been on linux. :)
[04:45] <doleyb> susbwoy: but you don't have many fps...
[04:46] <susbwoy> doleyb: I have enough until i want more out of the card. Hence - yet  -.
[04:47] <tomsdale> susbwoy: would you consider the open source driver more stable than the binary?
[04:48] <doleyb> tomsdale: It is more stable in the sense of getting upgraded and configured properly by distribs
[04:48] <tomsdale> I can crash my nvidia binary driver if just load a 200em header in firefox
[04:49] <tomsdale> its reproducible on my machine. I heard people with Nvidia nvs gfx cards have problems with crashes occasionaly
[04:49] <susbwoy> tomsdale:  not sure how to answer that question. the word stable in this instance is tricky.
[04:50] <tomsdale> susbwoy: in this case I would trade performance for stability in the sense that it shouldnt crash your session completely with a segfault from the nvidia driver.
[04:50] <afeijo> :(
[04:51] <tomsdale> still no joy afeijo?
[04:51] <afeijo> no tom, I'm in a bad luck
[04:51] <afeijo> I'm googling
[04:52] <tomsdale> have you tried rerunning the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:53] <tomsdale> there are a couple of options with tab
[04:53] <afeijo> no
[04:53] <afeijo> I need to do this with recovery shell right?
[04:53] <tomsdale> I think thats your only chance ...
[04:54] <tomsdale> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[04:55] <afeijo> I will try, if that dont work, should I burn a kde 9.04 and do a new install? what will I lose? I have 2 partitions, to / and /home
[04:55] <tomsdale> does this do something?
[04:55] <tomsdale> afeijo: you should be pretty safe there - maybe opt if you have compiled other binaries and a copy of /etc wouldnt heart
[04:56] <F0rg101> Hi im trying to create a new partition on one of my drives using gparted, but it wont let me resize the main one,  The HD is a 750G formated in ntsf
[04:57] <afeijo> ok
[04:57] <afeijo> simple dolphin copy or cp -a ?
[04:59] <afeijo> cp -a seams to work :)
[05:00] <tomsdale> afeijo: I think if you just do a square install and then replace the /home directory with your current one you keep all your settings.
[05:00] <tomsdale> in the fstab.
[05:01] <tomsdale> Thats how I do it - I dont know how gentle it is if you do an install into your current home directory - never tried it.
[05:01] <afeijo> I see, I can manage space to a second home, than I just mount the old one
[05:02] <afeijo> thanks, I will try the reconfigure now, if it dont work I will resume tomorrow as I need to sleep :) Bye
[05:04] <tomsdale> F0rg101: I think the partition has to be clean and you need ntfs-tool installed
[05:04] <tomsdale> !ntfs-tools
[05:04] <tomsdale> !ntfs-progs
[05:05] <tomsdale> I think its ntfsprogs
[05:05] <genii-around> !info ntfsprogs
[05:05] <F0rg101> i know that it doesnt need to be a clean drive
[05:07] <F0rg101> ok thx lets hope that it works, i usualy use it to shrink my windows partition to ghost it
[05:08] <F0rg101> apt-get dont work couldnt find pakage
[05:08] <pulaski> I have NFS running successfully between a client and server at home.  however I get this error:
[05:08] <pulaski> mount to NFS server 'rpcbind' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[05:08] <pulaski> mount.nfs: internal error
[05:09] <pulaski> here is my command: sudo mount 192.168.1.100:/mnt/share1 /mnt/srv1
[05:11] <pulaski> I can ping and ssh between server and client but I can't mount shares on my client, does anyone want to comment?
[05:12] <F0rg101> tomsdale: how do i get the ntsfprogs pakage?
[05:13] <tomsdale> sudo aptitude install ntfsprogs
[05:13] <tomsdale> works here ...
[05:14] <F0rg101> i didnt know about aptitude
[05:14] <F0rg101> i was trying with apt-get
[05:14] <tomsdale> F0rg101: I dont think its a big deal - apt-get aptitude. I think aptitude is sometimes a little better with dependancies.
[05:15] <F0rg101> tomsdale: ok, now lets see if it work
[05:15] <tomsdale> Just checked as well, gparted at least lets me resize ntfs, although I didnt go through with it.
[05:15] <F0rg101> tomsdale: does it need the partition mounted?
[05:15] <tomsdale> usually gparted does that by itself
[05:16] <F0rg101> ok thx alot
[05:16] <tomsdale> does it work?
[05:17] <F0rg101> i got the resize button on now
[05:18] <tomsdale> Cool - Excellent, time to go to bed
[05:18] <tomsdale> Good n8 everyone
[05:18] <F0rg101> tomsdale: for some reason it wont let me changeg the size im getting the same numbers for minimum and max
[05:18] <F0rg101> tomsdale: night
[05:19] <tomsdale> do you get to the "Pending tasks" part ?
[05:41] <jimmy_> Hi all
[05:49] <alexbobp> I'm running on integrated graphics that don't have 3D acceleration.  How do I make my xserver use emulated opengl?
[05:57] <doleyb> alexbobp: look for a mesa package?
[05:58] <doleyb> alexbobp: what happens when you run glxgears ?
[05:58] <alexbobp> doleyb: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:58] <doleyb> what version of ubuntu?
[05:59] <doleyb> Also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for GLX
[06:00] <alexbobp> 7.10
[06:00] <alexbobp> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[06:02] <doleyb> do you have package libgl1-mesa-glx ?
[06:10] <sabarinath> new to kubuntu. Calmtk Virus Scanner says i must be root to update database?
[06:10] <sabarinath> plz help
[06:11] <doleyb> sabarinath: If you really want to run that thing, then do it as root, with either sudo or kdesudo added to the front of command to run it
[06:12] <doleyb> !virus | sabarinath
[06:15] <sabarinath> thank you so much
[06:29] <alexbobp> doleyb: libgl1-mesa-glx is already the newest version.
[06:30] <doleyb> Oh well, idk how to activate mesa, maybe you can look to #ubuntu or some other chan
[06:31] <doleyb> (Obviously until you get the Xorg.log to contain a happier message about GLX, nothing else will succeed)
[06:32] <alexbobp> alright
[07:28] <chad> sup anyone there/
[07:29] <doleyb> people are here, but they sleeped
[08:01] <doleyb> I have problem running gtk apps in 9.04, they play silly sounds when I click buttons.  How do I change that?  Can someone test if it happens for you?
[08:15] <eagles0513875> anyone help me get samba setup pleas and ty
[08:24] <naz> does anyone use Sun Virtual Box
[08:37] <Quintasan> hmm, I wonder why scrolling is so wried, I scroll down and it goes 2-4 lines up and 2 down :/
[08:38] <susbwoy> Hi. Im using kubuntu 9.04. How am i able to see a detailed xorg.conf(driver names, etc) as opposed to the default xorg.conf(which auto-configures)?
[08:52] <doleyb> susbwoy: Did you look for the info you need in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:53] <susbwoy> doleyb: Yeah, but I was just wondering if there is a way I can tell xorg to output a xorg.conf in the old format. I.e) I can change the video driver from 'nv' to vesa, etc etc. I just like seeing everything in the conf file. No real issue if I can't do it.
[08:54] <doleyb> susbwoy: idk, you could ask #ubuntu about that
[08:54] <susbwoy> doleyb: Already tried. Thanks anyway
[09:07] <user__> salut
[09:14] <noaXess> hi all
[09:15] <noaXess> if i start dolphin in split mode, allways the right pane will be focused, not the left pane.. also if i open eg. a USB-drive in dolphin, then it will be opened in the right pane..
[09:15] <noaXess> is there any way to change that?..
[09:23] <qiyong> anyone use advogato? i can't delete my blog.
[09:46] <antoniu> hello
[09:47] <antoniu> i have a problem with my kubuntu
[09:47] <antoniu> can anyone help me?
[09:48] <noaXess> antoniu: just ask and explain your problem.. we will try to help
[09:48] <noaXess> :)
[09:48] <antoniu> ok
[09:49] <antoniu> i can't start de kwin effect
[09:49] <antoniu> it gives me an error
[09:49] <antoniu> something with setting x
[09:49] <antoniu> i'm a starter in linux
[09:50] <antoniu> if i set it in xrender it work awfull
[09:50] <darkmatt3r> hey guys, can anyone recommend a network monitor applet or plasmoid for kde4?
[09:50] <antoniu> aand thje cube doesn-t wotk
[09:53] <antoniu> can i install compiz and make it work?
[09:53] <Quintasan> antoniu: you can't use KWin effects?
[09:54] <antoniu> i can't use them in opengl ... only in xrender and it is very very slow
[10:06] <zaapiel> hello
[10:07] <zaapiel> im curious how i can manually edit the Kmenu
[10:07] <zaapiel> or whatever its called
[10:07] <zaapiel> i deleted an application and the icon is still showing
[10:07] <zaapiel> doh nevermind
[10:07] <zaapiel> found it
[10:09] <baz_44> guys help need for ubuntu server issue
[10:11] <baz_44> help needed for ubuntu server after upgrade
[10:30] <Master> how can i get java?
[10:31] <baz_44> do u need the java sdk?
[10:32] <Master> i dono just java
[10:33] <baz_44> ok just open your shell
[10:33] <baz_44> and type
[10:33] <baz_44> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[10:34] <Master> thnx
[10:35] <baz_44> any good??
[10:35] <Master> its downloading
[10:35] <Master> Zzz
[10:35] <baz_44> good good
[10:35] <baz_44> anyway after you finish installing, type javac -version to make sure they it is been downloaded properly
[10:35] <Master> ok
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:36] <baz_44> hey
[10:36] <Master> hey
[10:39] <Master> bash: javac: command not found
[10:40] <pulaski> does anyone know of a kubuntu package that allows faxing documents through the webb?
[10:40] <baz_44> try java -version
[10:40] <Master> java version "1.6.0_13"
[10:41] <baz_44> cool
[10:41] <baz_44> that's the one
[10:41] <baz_44> you should be fine now
[10:41] <pucko-> what does "faxing through the web mean", really?
[10:41] <Master> good thnx
[10:41] <baz_44> no worries
[10:41] <pucko-> misplaced "
[10:43] <pulaski> pucko-: I can no longer send faxes using my land line.  I've found websites that offer a free Internet fax service but I prefer to have my own local application for that.
[10:45] <pulaski> pucko-: to anser your question I imagine it means to send documents from one's computer to be received by another's fax machine.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> pucko-: its all connects to the same communication infrastructure, just like computer to true phone call
[10:45] <pulaski> for example I used efax when I had a land line it worrked well.
[10:45] <pucko-> pulaski, I see. that would mean, the other computer would really just be used as a printer.
[10:46] <pulaski> pucko-: essentially I suppose your right.
[10:48] <mumriken> hej nån här som är villig att hjälpa mig med en snabb fråga?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> pucko-: you can use soft fax where the faxes are stored as files
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> pucko-: there is still a tonne of fax spamming out there which will eat your printing resources
[10:48] <faileas> ActionParsnip: eh, we have problems with that
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> faileas: softfax dude, goes to pdf, can be deleted then ;)
[10:49] <faileas> in part cause my workplace insists on having a physical fax no matter what ;p
[10:49] <noaXess> in firefox i have big checkboxes.. also in thunderbird.. how to change that to normal checkboxes over systemsettings?
[10:49] <pucko-> actionparsnip, of course, but my understanding is he wants the fax stored as a file, to be printed out on a fax on a remote machine.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> pucko-: that can be done too
[10:50] <pucko-> mumriken, på engelska
[10:51] <pucko-> actionparsnip, of course it could be done, but it's so silly that one would wonder why one would do it.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> pucko-: it probably suits someones needs somewhere if ou can think of it
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> s/ou/you
[10:52] <pucko-> that's why i don't think thereÃ's an application that does just that. since it would essentially remove the "faxing" :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> pucko-: you could port forward the cups service but you will have to lock it down
[10:53] <pucko-> pulaski, you can set up a printserver on the remote machine, and direct the "fax stored as a file" on your local computer to it.
[10:55] <pulaski> ActionParsnip: I like to send written documents to those like politicans via fax because for me anyway it seems more substantial than an email message.  I have received responses from many of them via snail mail.
[10:55] <pucko-> pulaski, yes, but that's different. then the receiving fax is connected to the telephone.
[10:57] <pucko-> perhaps it's possible to direct your fax through your cell-phone. not sure if it would work though
[10:57] <pulaski> pucko-: I see, so when sites like fax-zero claim they send faxes for free over the internet they are merely sending email messages?
[10:58] <pucko-> pulaski, no.. they most likely send it though the telephone
[10:58] <pucko-> through
[10:58] <pucko-> but they don't receive your "fax" from the telephone
[10:59] <pulaski> pucko-: thanks, I do have a t-mobile cell-phone but I purchased it before I learned they do not support sending faxes on their network.
[11:00] <pulaski> pucko-: I've found the fax-zero service less than satisfactory so far.  The don't seem to provide a confirmation that the fax was received as of a particular date or time.
[11:02] <pulaski> pucko-: Lacking an alternative, sans a land line, I quess I'm stuck with http://faxzero.com/
[11:04] <pulaski> pucko, ActionParsnip: Thanks for your suggestions I guess I'll just l keep looking and trying different things until I find something suitable now that my land line is used exclusively for my DSL connecttion.
[11:05] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what is in your interfaces file
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> np man
[11:06] <tristanos_7L> any good monitor program for websites?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: can you expand
[11:06] <eagles0513875> ikonia: was talking to the dev in charge of the widget upstream about this issue
[11:07] <ikonia> so ?
[11:07] <tristanos_7L> i need a progam that will check my websites and giving me uptime and downtime alerts
[11:07] <tristanos_7L> i use webmonx but is very simple
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: thats about 40% of my job
[11:07] <tristanos_7L> oh!
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: grab polymon, its free and AWESOME
[11:07] <tristanos_7L> thanks actionPArsnip
[11:08] <tristanos_7L> on mac i use simon
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: if the sites have logons you may want to get a solution to test that too
[11:08] <tristanos_7L> thanks
[11:08] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what's in your interfaces file ?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: we use client vantage - vantage view
[11:08] <tristanos_7L> simon on mac is very nice, but on linux i thought that must be more
[11:09] <tristanos_7L> vantage is other program?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: yes, we use many as our network is pretty vast
[11:10] <tristanos_7L> ok, i will download polymon
[11:10] <tristanos_7L> and then vantage
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: i think vantage is paid for
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: we also use denika which i think is FOSS
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: and vitalnet
[11:11] <ikonia> eagles0513875: hello ?
[11:11] <tristanos_7L> all these programs check also for downtime and uptime status?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i think he's dozed off
[11:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: he was active a moment ago
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: denika will read mibs to give cpu utilisation etc, vantage view runs a bot which reports to an sql server to produce timing reports
[11:12] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im here
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: polymon willmonitor sites for up / don ness
[11:12] <tristanos_7L> nice thanks
[11:12] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what's in your interfaces file ?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> s/don/down
[11:12] <eagles0513875> ikonia: just eth0 and loopback
[11:12] <ikonia> eagles0513875: just those two words, nothing else ?
[11:12] <eagles0513875> and im on wifi atm using static ip on wifi
[11:12] <tristanos_7L> do you know the site for polymon ?
[11:13] <tristanos_7L> http://polymon.codeplex.com/
[11:13] <eagles0513875> eth0 is set to use dhcp ikonia but im on wifi which isnt listed in there
[11:13] <tristanos_7L> i found it
[11:13] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I understand that, I'm curious to what was in the file
[11:14] <eagles0513875> ikonia: nothing else im modifying the wifi ip via the widget gui
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: if you network is large, you may want to consider altiris
[11:14] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what is the session file used to store the widget's data
[11:14] <sebr> neversfelde: ping
[11:14] <eagles0513875> ikonia: not sure
[11:15] <ikonia> eagles0513875: ok - so is that not key to find out before declaring an intergration issue ?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: thats the one
[11:15] <eagles0513875> ikonia: ya
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: another good one to try (takes some learning) is powershell
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: MS product for windows systems
[11:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I'm trying to lead you to think things through before logging bugs and wasting peoples time
[11:16] <tristanos_7L> is polymon for linux ?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: you can do much the same with linux systems using ssh for remote connectivity then running a script to email back to you
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: we use it for windows servers
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> tristanos_7L: i'd imagine theres a linux versions
[11:17] <tristanos_7L> yes, but i would prefer a stand alone product like this: http://www.dejal.com/simon/
[11:18] <tristanos_7L> i am not so deep into servers
[11:18] <eagles0513875> ikonia: the connection configuration is stored $KDEHOME/share/apps/networkmanagement/connections
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !info munin
[11:20] <eagles0513875> ikonia: come to think of it i think this is more of a bug with the init.d script not releasing the dhcp ip address and checking if there is a static ip address
[11:21] <eagles0513875> !cacti | tristanos_7L
[11:21] <eagles0513875> !info cacti | tristanos_7L
[11:21] <eagles0513875> not sure if thats what you want tristanos_7L but you can also configure it for other things like website hits etc
[11:34] <ikonia> eagles0513875: how can it be the init script ?
[11:34] <ikonia> eagles0513875: the init script has nothing to do with releasing dhcp addresses
[11:35] <ikonia> eagles0513875: how did you arrive at that suggestions ?
[12:00] <jimmy_birer> hi people
[12:00] <jimmy_birer> who likes 9.04?
[12:04] <faileas> jimmy_birer: i seem to, since the most recent updates to x fixed the issues i had
[12:06] <estan> hrm. after a recent package upgrade on jaunty, when i try to log in with KDM i just get kicked back out, and /var/log/kdm.log says "(EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard".. anyone had that?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> jimmy_birer: its no different to gutsy for me
[12:07] <jimmy_birer> ActionParsnip: but its slower than gutsy ;)
[12:08] <estan> (it seems i have this problem; http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1051181.html .. but that one is old, from January).
[12:08] <estan> could i be missing some package?
[12:09] <estan> a lot of stuff was deleted once i removed an old PPA repo i had put in..
[12:09] <codytyler> dfv
[12:09] <codytyler> hello
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> jimmy_birer: i websearch and chat, so speed isnt noticable
[12:11] <codytyler> hiii
[12:12] <codytyler> hello
[12:13] <jussi01> Hi all. is there a device notifier that auto mounts? ie. so the things are mounted as soon as they are plugged in, instead of waiting till I click them to mount
[12:13] <jussi01> ?
[12:15] <doleyb> !automount
[12:15] <doleyb> jussi01: maybe this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[12:15] <codytyler> hi
[12:15] <reisi> jussi01: hmm try if you could somehow "plug" that kind of behavior to hal
[12:19] <xxxtom> hallo da
[12:22] <aedl> hola
[12:25] <Filthpig> uuuhuh? Each time i log out and back in, KDE actually forgets my desktop wallpaper AND plasmoids! How could this -not- be picked up in the beta testing?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Filthpig: make sure you are the owner of all your home files
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Filthpig: use: sudo chown -R <your username> /home/<your username>
[12:29] <Filthpig> ActionParsnip: okay... But why do I have to do this?
[12:30] <Filthpig> I mean, Kubuntu should give me those rights automatically
[12:30] <Filthpig> especially since I'm the only user on this PC
[12:30] <doleyb> Yep it should.  So what was done to your PC is quite a mystery.
[12:31] <Filthpig> installed from a memory stick yesterday
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Filthpig: make sure you are the owner of all the files in your home dir
[12:31] <Filthpig> well
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Filthpig: if you've been running gui apps with sudo (e.g. sudo kate) then it can wreck permissions
[12:31] <Filthpig> I haven't
[12:32] <Filthpig> the only odd thing I can remember is Kwalletmanager requesting me to fill in a default password twice, where the second time it complained about not finding the file or something like that
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Filthpig: well all settings for your user are stored in there so they arent being written in the ~/.kde directory for some reason or another
[12:32] <doleyb> I wonder if copying from read-only media could cause something
[12:34] <Filthpig> ActionParsnip: the chown command is permanent and affects all existing files plus new ones added in the future, right?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Filthpig: yes as the folders will have it set too
[12:34] <Filthpig> good
[12:34] <darrob> hi, will qca and qt be updated soon in kubuntu 9.04 or is that something that is only updated from release to release?
[12:35] <Filthpig> then I hope this bug is closed for my part, but this might be worth posting a bug report?
[12:41] <susbwoy> !flash
[12:41] <susbwoy> !Gnash
[12:52] <neversfelde> sebr: pong
[12:53] <sebr> neversfelde: hey dude. i heard you were having trouble with amarok kubuntu packages and ipod support
[12:53] <asf> hi. got a problem. Install kubuntu 9.04 on a machine with windows xp but grub won't load giving an error 17. Can anyone help?
[12:53] <neversfelde> sebr: hi, not trouble, I know packages are build without ipod support
[12:54] <neversfelde> apachelogger said, that an include is probably missing
[12:54] <sebr> yah, you need libgpod
[12:55] <neversfelde> sebr: yes, it is build without. I wanted to have a look at this, but did not until now. I can do this in the afternoon and send you the error message, if you need it?
[12:56] <sebr> sure, whatever i can do to help
[12:56] <asf> hi. got a problem. Install kubuntu 9.04 on a machine with windows xp but grub won't load giving an error 17. Can anyone help?
[12:56] <neversfelde> ok, will do this
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> asf: dont ask in both channels, you look silly
[13:00] <white_pelican> I installed jaunty fresh, then installed the kde3 desktop, and then the kde4 desktop. I don't know how, but I seem to have messed up my panel. What's the easiest way to restore my panel settings? Is there a way to return to the default settings?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: rename both ~/.kde and ~/.kde4
[13:01] <white_pelican> I have a ,kde and a .kde3 folder
[13:02] <white_pelican> my kde 3 configuration is fine
[13:03] <alexandernst> Hi. Could somebody tell me the repository for kernel updates? I wan't to upgrade to 2.6.29 (I'm on kubuntu 9.04)
[13:11] <white_pelican> ActionParsnip, did you see my last message? Isn't there a way to just retuen to the default settings within kde4?
[13:11] <white_pelican> return*
[13:11] <ramsri> hi
[13:11] <auxbuss2> sfs
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: rename the .kde folder in ~
[13:12] <white_pelican> rename it and start kde 4? I'm currently in kde3
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: i'd boot to recovery croot console and rename there
[13:13] <white_pelican> hmm
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: or log out then log on to a console logon and rename there
[13:15] <jao_> Hi, I just upgraded kubuntu to jaunty. My problem is that knetwork manager doesnt seem to be able to connect to my router (WPA2) via wifi. I click on the name of the router but nothing happens - could someone please give me a hand?
[13:22] <afeijo> what is the command to syncronize files between 2 local or remote folders?
[13:23] <eagles0513875> afeijo: you can use dd then you specify if= path of=path
[13:23] <eagles0513875> if thats what you are after
[13:24] <afeijo> eagles0513875: I think I used rsync cmd, but my kubuntu 9.04 dont know it, nor do apt-get
[13:25] <eagles0513875> afeijo: type in apt-cache policy and see if its installed
[13:25] <eagles0513875> cuz jaunty has it
[13:26] <afeijo> thanks
[13:26] <eagles0513875> no prob thats a handy command tells you what version is in repos and if its install or not there is also dpkg -l i believe that does the same
[13:36] <eagles0513875> what is the name of the package that has the gui to change user groups and what not
[13:37] <Pali> kuser
[13:37] <eagles0513875> ty
[13:41] <jao_> Hi, I just upgraded kubuntu to jaunty. My problem is that knetwork manager doesnt seem to be able to connect to my router (WPA2) via wifi. I click on the name of the router but nothing happens - could someone please give me a hand?
[13:41] <samii> how do you install new window decorations in kde4 for kwin? kwin themes, as found on kde-look
[13:42] <samii> jao_: out of interest I updated as well to jaunty and had all sorts of network problems. If you install jaunty fresh you may find your life a lot easier - I did. It installed a new network manager when I did a fresh install that auto detected my cards and configured them. It depends on your networking devices of course as to what will happen
[13:42] <auxbuss> jao: nm is a known issue with jaunty.
[13:43] <auxbuss> jao: a lot of folk are using wicd
[13:43] <darrob> jao_: sorry, i can't give you a qualified answer. however, i had the same issue (except network manager has not ever worked for me) and i solved it by installing wicd.
[13:43] <auxbuss> jao: I just went back to using /interfaces. it works
[13:43] <jao_> oh i see, i'll give wicd a try
[13:43] <jao_> thanks!
[13:45] <noaXess> how can i check how many ram my integrated graficcard has?.. it's a nvidia
[13:45] <noaXess> on a asus notebook..
[13:49] <auxbuss> $ lspci
[13:49] <auxbuss> then grab the device id
[13:49] <auxbuss> $ lspci -v -s 01:00.0
[13:49] <taner_c_> hi
[13:50] <auxbuss> where 01:00.0 is your device id
[13:50] <auxbuss> For the first command, try:
[13:51] <auxbuss> $ lspci|grep VGA
[13:52] <auxbuss> If that's too confusing, then you can do it longhand:
[13:52] <auxbuss> $ lspci -v|less
[13:53] <noaXess> auxbuss: found.. thanks
[13:53] <noaXess> thanks
[13:59] <eagles0513875> im having a really tough time accessing my samba share on this machine it keeps asking me to login to this machine :( what do i need to do to create myself a login and password to logon from windows vista
[14:01] <eagles0513875> anyone able to help me with my samba issue
[14:02] <faileas> eagles0513875: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/
[14:02] <eagles0513875> i have it installed and what not
[14:02] <eagles0513875> faileas: what i dont get is on kubuntu it wans me to to login where as on ubuntu server it doesnt ask for a login
[14:03] <faileas> eagles0513875: thats odd. it should be dependant on the settings.
[14:03] <eagles0513875> thats whats got me all flustered
[14:03] <eagles0513875> and i need to get the last 50gb of data of my desktop before i reformat it
[14:03] <eagles0513875> im trying to copy the smb.conf like it is on ubuntu server
[14:06] <eagles0513875> faileas: got it needed to add an smbpasswd for the user
[14:06] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:06] <faileas> eagles0513875: lol. yanno, i googled it in less than the time you took to ask :)
[14:07] <eagles0513875> faileas: was looking on ubuntu samba link
[14:08] <eagles0513875> think im just goign nuts between exams and trying to backup all data i have on my pc so i can then install the rc of win 7 64bit on me desktop
[14:08] <crs> how can I easly install and enable nvidia (binary) drivers?
[14:08] <eagles0513875> faileas: at some point when i got more time i need to improve the samba share security
[14:09] <eagles0513875> crs: there is a gui called hardware drivers run that and activate the driver or drivers depending on the hardware
[14:09] <crs> eagles0513875: Hmm, I could find it in 9.04 (kde4) menu ;/
[14:09] <faileas> eagles0513875: i'm running windows 7 on a spare box
[14:09] <faileas> i made a full disk image first tho
[14:10] <eagles0513875> faileas: which i dont have
[14:10] <eagles0513875> crs: yes under system 3rd form top
[14:10] <faileas> eagles0513875: got a maxtor or acronis disk?
[14:10] <faileas> er maxtor or seagate hard disk even
[14:10] <eagles0513875> faileas: gonna be buying a 1.5tb external soon so its all good
[14:10] <crs> eagles0513875: all fields are blank ;/
[14:11] <faileas> eagles0513875: naw, both of em have a excellent backup tool based off acronis ;p
[14:11] <eagles0513875> crs O_O you connected to the internet
[14:12] <auxbuss> man smbclient
[14:12] <eagles0513875> ?
[14:12] <zoggy> hey guys, i proposed an idea regarding increased productivity on the linux desktop and would love input if anyone's interested http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19668/ . cos man, i'm swamped with work.
[14:13] <eagles0513875> i would but im swamped backup me data and studying for exxams which start monday
[14:13] <auxbuss> oops! I meant smbpasswd
[14:13] <auxbuss> man smbpasswd
[14:14] <eagles0513875> aux i got it already
[14:14] <eagles0513875> and i wasnt sure if there was  a man page
[14:16] <maxoo> hi, can i get any help installin gGRUB2
[14:16] <maxoo> -g
[14:16] <maxoo> +g
[14:17] <Tolucan> hi ... anyone here who can help me with a problem caused by the new network manager in 9.04? :-/ Auto connects to an unsecured network instead of the secured one it should connect to!
[14:18] <auxbuss> tolucan: nm is a known issue, either try wicd or manage /interfaces yourself
[14:20] <Tolucan> thought so ... found some entries about it, but no solution. can i remove it and use the old one instead?
[14:26] <Klanticus> Hi, I'm having some trouble adding an openVPN connection using the kde connection manager. I can't change the default port because the field is disabled. Any workarounds?
[14:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody else been experiencing "HOST SUM MISMATCH" errors when updating your distro?
[14:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> has anybody else been experiencing "HOST SUM MISMATCH" errors when updating your distro?
[14:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have tried to update my box and keep receiving this error.
[14:30] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was wondering if it was just my box/network or was it widespread.
[14:35] <Mannequin> hi. The Software Update is showing 4 blocked updates ( related to the Linux headers/restricted-modules/image/generic)
[14:35] <Mannequin> is that ok? can I unblock them? should I?
[14:35] <igor_> hi, after installing fresh kubuntu 9.04 kmix changes loudness only for non-kde apps, while for other applications like amarok or kde notifications the loudness is set to maximum -- why could it happen?
[14:38] <digdeep> igor: I didn't have sound at the beginning, later I used pulseAudio to solve the problem temporarily
[14:39] <shamus> hello
[14:39] <igor_> digdee: for me pulseaudio caused a lot of problems in 8.04 ...
[14:40] <digdeep> igor__: tried alsa?
[14:40] <JuJuBee> I have a question about Network Manager.  My wifi card currently has an IP address and connects to my access point.  Network manager says [not updated yet] for my wlan0 and reports the IP address: dum.my.ip.address  What is up?
[14:40] <JuJuBee> Also if I manage connections, my wireless connection says never used.
[14:41] <JuJuBee> I have a question about Network Manager. My wifi card currently has an IP address and connects to my access point. Network manager says [not updated yet] for my wlan0 and reports the IP address: dum.my.ip.address What is up?
[14:41] <igor_> digdee: yes, I and  it works for for non-kde apps like smplayer, arecord/aplay
[14:43] <igor_> JuJuBee: It could happen if ypur /etc/network/interfaces defines i-face wlan0
[14:45] <igor_> JuJuBee: if it's the case try to comment lines corresponding to wlan0
[14:45] <digdeep> igor__: for me, kmix didn't work at all, until I used pulseAudio. (That means my Intel one is not working. It rolls back to pulseAudio each time)
[14:45] <JuJuBee> igor_:  with a # or // ?
[14:46] <igor_> JuJuBee" with a  #
[14:46] <JuJuBee> K thanks
[14:46] <JuJuBee> igor_: should I restart networking?
[14:46] <igor_> JuJuBee: yes
[14:47] <igor_> digdeep: hm.. may be I'll try
[14:47] <flathm> hey everyone... I enabled desktop effects and now screen locking doesn't work.  is there a process I need to run / restart that will enable screen lock again?
[14:47] <JuJuBee> igor_: network manager still reports same thing/
[14:47] <flathm> (kde 4.2)
[14:48] <igor_> igor_: hm... In my case it helped
[14:50] <igor_> JuJuBee: : hm... In my case it helped
[14:50] <JuJuBee> igor_:  how *should* I be configuring my interfaces?
[14:50] <JuJuBee> cli?
[14:50] <rmrfslash> Is anyone else experiencing random, weekly, total freezes in 9.04 i.e. caps lock blinkage.
[14:51] <rmrfslash> *?
[14:52] <susbwoy> Hi, i recently ran 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser' and pointed the link to /usr/bin/firefox-3.0.. However konqueror still has a higher priority. How can i change this so Quassel IRC will open links in firefox?
[14:52] <rmrfslash> susbwoy: did you set the def browser in System Settings > Application Behavior
[14:53] <rmrfslash> susbwoy: rather, System Settings > Default Applications
[14:54] <igor_> JuJuBee: you can configure them with the network manager plasmoid
[14:55] <susbwoy> rmrfslash: Thanks. Worked nicely. You wouldn't know what file that action configured by any chance would you?
[14:56] <JuJuBee> igor_: when I use NM and try to scan for SSID, it shows a computer (icon) and curved lines, but nothing else.  Does the scan feature not work?
[14:56] <JuJuBee> Details is blank also
[14:57] <taner_c__> how to install kdebase3-devel in 9.04 ? it's a problem with configure katapult : "checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail"
[15:00] <rmrfslash> susbwoy: perhaps ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list:application/xml=firefox.desktop;
[15:02] <rmrfslash> susbwoy rather, ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[15:03] <igor_> JuJuBee: sorry, it seems that I can't help in you situation (, but the last qustion -- how did you restart network?
[15:03] <alberto> hello
[15:03] <JuJuBee> igor_:  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:04] <rmrfslash> susbwoy: wait, that's not it.... that's only when you right click on a file and set the "default application" to open it with
[15:04] <susbwoy> rmrfslash: correct. Has to be somewhere in my home dir though: didnt ask for sudo
[15:07] <hagabaka> is anyone getting a conflict when upgrading packages?
[15:08] <igor_> JuJuBee: I am not sure that restarts network manager (I found nothing about it in the script), may you should try to restart computer (I know it's bad way...)
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:08] <the1corrupted> I'm gettin a conflict with Amarok right now.  Playback doesn't work on it...  I get an HDA ATI SB type error.
[15:09] <JuJuBee> igor_: I found wicd and it scans and detects the wifi networks.  It is not a widget, but it works.   however, it seems to have removed network manager
[15:12] <Maro1_> Welcome all
[15:13] <Maro1_> Can someone help me by Installing Kubuntu 9.04 on PlayStation 3 ??
[15:14] <igor_> JuJuBee: So it's the network manager problem, unfortunately I don;t konw how to restart it correctly (
[15:14] <BluesKaj> igor_, is it still in the panel ?
[15:17] <igor_> BluesKaj: I am talking about networl manager, not plasmoid
[15:19] <BluesKaj> igor_ network manager is a widget
[15:19] <JuJuBee> igor_: thanks anyway.  I think I will use wicd instead anyway.  It works nicely.
[15:19] <the1corrupted> Anyone willing to help me with my Amarok playback issues?  It doesn't work because it says "HDA ATI SB (CONEXANT Analog) doesn't work, falling back ."
[15:20] <warpig> hi
[15:20] <the1corrupted> Of course, google turned up nothing or I wouldn't ask it here.
[15:20] <Tolucan> I'm missing the battery-status in KDE4.2 ... I only get the percentage, not the time left as I'm used to. Any way to get that back?
[15:20] <warpig> anybody knows why jockey-kde runs retarded SLOW?
[15:20] <igor_> JuJuBee: I tried)
[15:20] <JuJuBee> Yes, I am gratefu
[15:20] <JuJuBee> *grateful
[15:20] <JuJuBee> Thanks
[15:20] <JuJuBee> Besides, I have a solution now.
[15:20] <warpig> hi
[15:21] <warpig> i have a problem with ATI restricted drivers
[15:21] <susbwoy> rmrfslash: I hit the jackpot. ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals    Will have something like BrowserApplication[$e]=!/usr/bin/firefox-3.0
[15:21] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[15:22] <the1corrupted> But the funny thing is, it was working.... before I had to re-install linux because I made it explode by playing with the Appearance settings too much.  (All those top window bars disappeared)
[15:22] <lee_> Hello~!
[15:22] <lee_> Every
[15:22] <lee_> everyone~!
[15:22] <contrast> I'm getting this message when trying to remove a package (genpo): dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: Exec format error. apt-get install -f gives the same error. Any ideas?
[15:24] <contrast> the1corrupted: i just came in - what are you trying to get working?
[15:26] <warpig> i have a problem with ATI restricted drivers
[15:26] <warpig> jockey crashed
[15:27] <contrast> warpig: I haven't had much luck with KDE's Jockey, but the GTK version (sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk && kdesudo jockey-gtk) seems to work fine.
[15:28] <contrast> I'm getting this message when trying to remove a package (genpo): dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: Exec format error. apt-get install -f gives the same error. Any ideas?
[15:31] <JohanSJA> i need a kde4 ready media player apart from dragon to play movie and with more features
[15:32] <contrast> JohanSJA: SMPlayer is quite nice. Not exactly KDE-based, although it is Qt4 so it integrates fine.
[15:32] <contrast> Dragon is the most useless video player I've ever seen, dare I say, worse than WMP. :-\
[15:32] <JohanSJA> contrast: thanks, i will try that
[15:32] <mackk431> why
[15:33] <contrast> JohanSJA: NP. You using nVidia?
[15:33] <mackk431> whats wrong with dragon?
[15:33] <JohanSJA> contrast: i am not
[15:33] <JohanSJA> mackk431: it is lacking a lot of functions
[15:33] <contrast> mackk431: No playlist, for starters.
[15:35] <mackk431> i think dragon is made in order to make sure that there is a player to play content
[15:35] <mackk431> at least one standard
[15:35] <contrast> Right, and it does play content, but it's so crippled by its attempt at simplicity that it's virtually useless.
[15:37] <JohanSJA> mackk431: it is far too simple
[15:37] <JohanSJA> well, perhaps too simple for me but it is good for others
[15:37] <JohanSJA> just different preferences
[15:38] <peter__> sera
[15:39]  * contrast is eagerly awaiting the KDE4 port of Kaffeine.
[15:40] <ariel> Hi everyone, can anyone tell me how to reformat an external hard drive in linux?
[15:41] <contrast> ariel: GParted is quite nice for that (sudo apt-get install gparted).
[15:42] <JohanSJA> contrast: smplayer is rated highly in kde-apps.org as well
[15:42] <JohanSJA> so i guess it is a nice attempt for me
[15:42] <JohanSJA> installing it now
[15:42] <ariel> contrast, ok I can do that...but now here's a really stupid question...where is my "explorer" or "finder" equivalent?
[15:42] <ariel> I plugged in the external drive and am not finding it listed.
[15:43] <contrast> ariel: after running the command i said to install gparted and letting it finish, you should find it under Kickoff Menu -> Applications -> System. i forget the exact name it'll be under, but it should be fairly obvious.
[15:43] <contrast> "Partition Manager" IIRC
[15:44] <contrast> ariel: as for the Explorer equivalent, Dolphin under System or Konqueror under Internet - Konqueror's considered a bit more advanced, FYI
[15:45] <ariel> okie. cool...well it's currently a hard drive formatted for a mac and dolphin finds it...so that's good!!
[15:46] <Lightmans> hello together, somebody now how to get a "FRee Shitp Kubuntu AMD64" version? and not the normal i386 version?
[15:46] <contrast> good deal. :)
[15:46] <peaches> contrast: kaffeine svn is somewhat useable right now as a  simple player
[15:47] <contrast> peaches: true. i was using the ppa for it briefly, it still is nowhere close to the kde3 version IMO.
[15:47] <alberto_> hello
[15:47] <contrast> i mainly watch videos in a media center now anyway though, so it's practically moot for me.
[15:48] <alberto_> i have a problem with kubuntu 9.04
[15:48] <peaches> nope im using svn for the phonon usage
[15:49] <ariel> hrm...there's a little lock on there...
[15:49] <ariel> Does that mean I can't format it?
[15:49] <wizardslovak> is there gui software for .rar
[15:49] <ariel> I need a ntfs or fat32...someone wants me to move their itunes library to a new computer.
[15:49] <contrast> ariel: you mean in GParted?
[15:50] <contrast> wizardslovak: Ark?
[15:50] <alberto_> some minutes or seconds after returning from standby mode the laptop "freezes"
[15:50] <faileas> wizardslovak: if unrar is installed, ark will handle it
[15:50] <ariel> contrast: yes.
[15:50] <nowth> I've never been able to successfully navigate a DVD in (S)MPlayer or VLC... the seek bar either drops me who knows where or drops me where I want but redraws itself to some entirely different scale... very confusing. Kaffeine does it right.
[15:51] <alberto_> its a toshiba a305d sp 6801
[15:51] <alberto_> RAM: 2GC
[15:51] <alberto_> *2 GB
[15:51] <contrast> nowth: the latest smplayer in one of the ppas seems to have fixed that.
[15:52] <nowth> thanks contrast
[15:52] <nowth> don't know which PPA that would be, admittedly
[15:53] <alberto_> processor: AMD Turion 64x2 tl-62
[15:53] <contrast> nowth: i can send it to you if you like
[15:53] <nowth> found it, I think. if it's ~rvm
[15:53] <alberto_> graphic card: Ati radeon x1250
[15:54] <ariel> Ok...I think I got it.
[15:54] <alberto_> can you help me? excuse me if i make mistakes, i'm not an english native speaker
[15:54] <ariel> And I didn't go away, so apparently it was the correct hard drive. :)
[15:55] <contrast> nowth: actually, i've found ~brandonsnider to be more up-to-date
[15:55] <ariel> Also, does anyone know how to get kernel module wl to load at system start?
[15:55] <contrast> nowth: and if you're using nVidia, his has the VDPAU stuff for them (for hardware-accelerated video playback)
[15:55] <ariel> right now I have to modprobe every single time I boot to get my wireless working.
[15:56] <contrast> ariel: what's that module for, exactly? if there's hardware on your system that uses it, it should be loaded by default?
[15:56] <ariel> contrast yeah, well for some reason it never loads automatically.
[15:56] <nowth> contrast: thanks again. yep, nvidia (though somehow a lot slower than it should be... at least per glxgears fps)
[15:57] <contrast> nowth: you've installed the proprietary driver?
[15:57] <ariel> I even tried to blacklist the drivers I don't need and it still doesn't work.
[15:57] <contrast> ariel: one sec...
[15:57] <ariel> the module is wl...for the wireless.  sure
[15:58] <ariel> it's a dell xps m1330 laptop.
[15:58] <contrast> ariel: what kind of wireless card?
[15:58] <ariel> It's a broadcom.
[15:59] <nowth> contrast: yes, nvidia-180
[15:59] <ariel> broadcom sta.
[16:00] <ariel> and HAL says the driver is activated, but if I don't remove the ssb, b43, and ndiswrapper every single time I boot, it doesn't come up
[16:00] <nowth> contrast: it's not unbearably slow or anything, I'm just seeing people with previous-generation nvidia cards on (even) slower machines get the same performance. ohwell
[16:01] <ariel> My nvidia 180 works great...but I've nothing to compare it to I guess.
[16:02] <contrast> ariel: i can send you a quick and dirty howto for setting up a script that will run whenever you boot if you like
[16:02] <ariel> contrast, that would be great!!!
[16:02] <ariel> ugh, I don't like this irc client at all.
[16:03] <ariel> Did they get rid of konversation?
[16:03] <contrast> yeah, i didn't care for quassel much either. there's a ppa for the kde4 port of konversation, no problems so far.
[16:04] <ariel> I'll try to install konversation. :)
[16:04] <contrast> ariel: stick a script in /etc/init.d/, symbolic link it in /etc/rc5.d/ in a format S<some number lower than kdm>scriptname
[16:04] <alberto_> can you help me?
[16:04] <contrast> ariel: can you figure it out from that, or do you need further explanation?
[16:05] <ariel> contrast, I can probably figure that one out.
[16:05] <ariel> I'll give it a try.
[16:05] <nowth> still same skippiness with brandonsnider PPA smplayer
[16:06] <contrast> nowth: weird. you installed mplayer from that repo as well?
[16:06] <nowth> actually, I installed every update they had
[16:06] <ariel> contrast thanks!!! I'm going to try to go get konversation...back in a bit.
[16:06] <nowth> so yeah, mplayer too
[16:07] <contrast> hmm
[16:08] <contrast> g2g. good luck, y'all. peace
[16:09] <nowth> it also doesn't show me where I'm going when I'm seeking... it just pauses the DVD until I let go of the slider
[16:09] <nowth> ah, well. there's a kaffeine update, too :)
[16:10] <eagles0513875> kernel update as well
[16:11] <Maro1> Welcome, i have a problem with installing Kubuntu 9.04 on PlayStation 3 80GB with Firmware V. 2.70 . The problem is like this: I have installed the bootloader from the Kubuntu CD (Settings>>System Settings>>Install Other OS). When i start PS3, kboot loads up. But when i click Enter, kboot types some 10 lines, and then is something like this: "USB BUS 1 Deregistered", and it locks. I have installed other bootloaders (petitboot 0.2 - which jus
[16:13] <eagles0513875> kaddi: offtopic lol
[16:13] <kaddi> lol hey eagles :D
[16:13] <eagles0513875> anyone know where i can change the number of dots that are displayed when typing a password from one dot to 3 dots per character of passwords
[16:14] <ikonia> eagles0513875: with the passwd command ?
[16:15] <ikonia> eagles0513875: sorry, as in what password pattern do you want to change, for what application ?
[16:16] <jeiworth> mmh anyone else having problems with todays kernel update? i have unmet dependencies:
[16:16] <jeiworth> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:16] <jeiworth>   linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-12-generic which is a virtual package.
[16:20] <ariel> ok, so I have this win 2000 machine that won't boot...do you e think I can just boot with an ubuntu live cd and copy the files I need to the hard disk?
[16:20] <jeiworth> mmh anyone else having problems with todays kernel update? i have unmet dependencies:
[16:20] <jeiworth> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:20] <jeiworth> linux-restricted-modules-generic: Depends: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-12-generic which is a virtual package.
[16:21] <genii> ariel: Copy "the files I need" ... files on the 2K drive which you need off to another place? Or files you need to make the thing bootable?
[16:21] <ariel> no it's this computer of this friend...and she needs her itunes directory.
[16:22] <ariel> So yes, I need to just copy the music folder or whatever off to an external drive.
[16:22] <genii> ariel: Yes, you can use a livecd for this.
[16:23] <CrummyGummy> hi, any ideas how to get kwin to start on login? It broke  in a bad upgrade.
[16:23] <ariel> genii...cool.  I can't repair her win2000 install at all because I don't have a win2000 cd
[16:24] <genii> ariel: If that drive had an ungraceful shutdown or some other hd issue... the filesystem will probably be marked unclean. You will likely need to force the mount of it since it won't normally want to use drives which are not marked clean.
[16:26] <zbyszek> jak włnczyć wi fi
[16:26] <peaches> zbyszek: what encoding is that
[16:26] <zbyszek> jak włączyć wi fi
[16:27] <genii> !pl | zbyszek
[16:27] <ariel> genii...hrm...
[16:27] <ariel> well I'm booting the ubuntu live cd now.
[16:27] <zbyszek> pl
[16:27] <zbyszek> ok
[16:27] <ikonia> !pl | zbyszek
[16:27] <genii> zbyszek: EG:  /join #ubuntu-pl
[16:27] <ariel> it's windows 2000 and it just says that the system file is missing or corrupt
[16:27] <ariel> this is why I HATE windows.
[16:28] <genii> ariel: Well, could be hit or miss then as far as retrieving any data from it. Looks suspiciously like a terminal HD failure error
[16:28] <ariel> hrm.  that doesn't sound good.
[16:28] <ariel> Well, I'll try and I guess she may be out of luck.
[16:34] <ariel> Hrm...okie...well I can see all my windows files...but now it doesn't recognize my external hard drive.
[16:34] <ahmos> hi, i installed kubuntu inside windows using wubi, now how i can give permissin for my partitions so that i don't need to enter a password every time i reboot my device?!!
[16:39] <ariel> So how to get ubuntu live cd to recognize my external hd.
[16:39] <kaddi> eagles: i have uninstalled vi, the addon-manager, the latexsuite-addon. Nothing worked. The solution in earlier versions (meaning gutsy, hardy, intrepid) was, to install the latexsuite-addon via the addon-manager of vi. But this doesn't seem to work anymore :(
[16:40] <nowth> does anybody know where/how to change the keyboard layout and repeat delay/rate in X these days? Section "InputDevice" in xorg.conf doesn't seem to matter here anymore.
[16:40] <shadowland> I'm having a problem with new evolution-mapi crashing. I want to send a bug report, but I get only the core file and /var/crash remains empty.  Why does /var/crash remain empty and how do I fix it?
[16:41] <genii> ariel: USB?eSATA?Firewire? Unformatted/NTFS/FAT/EXT/other ?
[16:43] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: i have not had any issues with the kernel update
[16:44] <eagles0513875> kaddi: try clean install of kubuntu
[16:44] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: mmh ok, but you also got the update to 2.6.28.12 today?
[16:44] <eagles0513875> upgrading from one release has its kinks still
[16:44] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: ya i did just now i upgraded and rebooted what kind of issues are you having
[16:44] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: are you on 32bit or 64bit
[16:45] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: 64bit
[16:45] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: hold on, iĺl post it in pastebin
[16:45] <eagles0513875> strange i am on it as well but a highly modified version
[16:45] <eagles0513875> im not a kernel expert but ill try and help ya out best i can
[16:46] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: http://paste.ubuntu.com/165533/
[16:46] <kaddi> eagles: a clean install for every program I intend to use on ubunu o.0 that's gonna be tiresome
[16:47] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: you on ubuntu
[16:47] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: kubuntu
[16:47] <jeiworth> ...obviously ;)
[16:48] <eagles0513875> jedix_: strange you used aptitude did you get the upgrades installed or stopped them
[16:49] <jedix_> somehow I think nick completion screwed up there
[16:49] <jeiworth> kaddi: you can save your current package-config with: $ sudo dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt
[16:49] <jeiworth> kaddi: after the fresh install import it with:$ sudo dpkg --set-selections < packagelist.txt
[16:49] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: try using apt-get upgrade and see if you get those same messages
[16:50] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: normally aptitude is a gnome thing apt-get is kde
[16:50] <jeiworth> kaddi: after that just update and upgrade and it will install ALL packages/programs you have installe now
[16:50] <martijn> hey people
[16:50] <martijn> how izz everybody?
[16:50] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: erm well no, but i'll give it a try ;)
[16:50] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: aptitude is a gnomish thing apt-get is the kde thing lol
[16:51] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: aptitude is a shell command tool, a further developed apt-get, neither have anything to do with gnome or kde ;)
[16:51] <martijn> try downloading the new version
[16:51] <eagles0513875> jeiworth: you taught me something new ontop of my over stuffed brain
[16:51] <martijn> i works better then upgrade
[16:52] <eagles0513875> new version of what martijn
[16:52] <kaddi> i'm on jaunty already ;)
[16:52] <ariel> okie...well maybe it's the hard drive.
[16:52] <martijn> ubuntu
[16:52] <ariel> now my regular ubuntu won't regcognize it.
[16:52] <ariel> weird.
[16:52] <eagles0513875> martijn: if your on ubuntu this is the wrong channel for support
[16:52] <martijn> I thought one of you guys try to upgrde
[16:52] <eagles0513875> ariel: could be a cd drive going bad
[16:52] <jeiworth> ariel: sounds more like the hdd is major b0rk
[16:52] <martijn> I love the new Ubuntu, works really fast
[16:53] <eagles0513875> more like cd if its not reading
[16:53] <eagles0513875> !ot | martijn
[16:53] <ariel> Well this is my external drive.
[16:53] <martijn> I will
[16:53] <eagles0513875> ariel: ahhh then hard drive going bad :(
[16:54] <kaddi> I've had this problem on fresh installs and upgraded versions from gutsy through to jaunty. I doubt that a new install will make it work all of the sudden. which is why I don't really like the idea of spending three hours backing up my stuff to do a reinstall
[16:54] <eagles0513875> kaddi: you never know and your kinda in the position that i am on my desktop
[16:54] <eagles0513875> anyway jeiworth ill be back on in alil while i need to fight rush hr traffic now
[16:54] <jeiworth> kaddi: well, for the next time do a manual partitioning and put /home on an extra partition ;)
[16:55] <jeiworth> eagles0513875: all right
[16:55] <martijn> oke I can imagine
[16:55] <martijn> But installing the Jaunty will take only a hour
[16:56] <ahmos> hi, i installed kubuntu inside windows using wubi, now how i can give permissin for my partitions so that i don't need to enter a password every time i reboot my device?!!
[16:56] <ariel> oh now it's showing up...werid. :)
[16:56] <ariel> okie. now try the live cd machine.
[16:56] <ariel> you wouldn't think it would take 2 hours to copy a few files from a hard drive. sheesh. :)
[16:56] <ariel> I'm gonna need more coffee if this keeps up.
[16:57] <martijn> hahahaha I agree
[16:58] <antonio_> hi everybody
[16:58] <martijn> Hi antonio
[16:58] <faileas> ahmos: you mean when you try to access a NTFS drive from wubi?
[16:58] <ariel> Hrm...oke maybe network drive?
[16:59] <antonio_> some body knows what repository I have to add to install amsn, opera browser and stuff?
[16:59] <ahmos> no from kubuntu,so that i need to enter a root password every time i open the os
[16:59] <ariel> for some odd reasdon the machine with the live cd won't recognize the usb drive
[16:59] <faileas> antonio_: prolly universe
[17:00] <martijn> that sucks ariel
[17:00] <ariel> so can I somehow just plug usb drive into the machine that works and then copy over the network?
[17:00] <antonio_> faileas:thank u, could youtell me howto do that please?
[17:00] <faileas> antonio_: though, opera has debs on their webpage
[17:00] <martijn> what are you working with windows? ariel?
[17:00] <ariel> martijn...well this lady has a win 2000 machine that won't boot and she want her itunes library from it.
[17:01] <kinkie> Hi all, I am having an issue installing 9.04 on an HP Compaq 6910p laptop.. the desktop CD will install just fine, but when trying the alternate cd the screen blanks just after booting the kernel. The kernel is alive, but no video. I need the alternate as I want to have a LVM-based rootfs.. Any suggestions on how to address this? Thanks!
[17:01] <martijn> you should be able to plug it in and it works
[17:01] <ariel> so I booted it with a live cd and can get at the files...but that machine won't recognize a usb hard drive.
[17:01] <martijn> just put a new one in yesterday
[17:01] <ariel> yeah it's not finding the usb drive.
[17:01] <faileas> antonio_: amsn should just install from apt-get. for opera http://www.opera.com/browser/download/ use the ibex one
[17:02] <ariel> doh...she just emailed me and said her usb ports had quit working.
[17:02] <martijn> what are you trying to do?
[17:02] <ariel> I'm just trying to copy her itunes files off her hard drive.
[17:02] <martijn> hmmmm... oke
[17:02] <ariel> onto a new hard drive.
[17:02] <ariel> but the machine won't recognize my usb hard drive.
[17:03] <martijn> what are you using and what is she using?
[17:03] <ahmos> faileas here you can look at mt fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/165542/
[17:03] <martijn> may just be a different formatation
[17:03] <ariel> Well she has a win2000 machine and the system file is corrupt so it won't boot.
[17:03] <ariel> so she doesn't have a boot disk.
[17:03] <martijn> oke
[17:03] <ariel> so I booted her machine with an ubuntu live cd
[17:04] <martijn> long time ago that I used win 2000
[17:04] <ariel> and I can get at her itunes files...but it won't recognize my usb hard drive.
[17:04] <martijn> hold on let me think
[17:04] <sash_> did you now how to install drivers from motherboard?
[17:04] <ariel> oke...so it's just a matter of pretty much copy files....or under normal circumstances.
[17:04] <martijn> yep
[17:04] <sash_> in ubuntu?
[17:05] <martijn> could be the usb post is broken
[17:05] <martijn> can you try using something else?
[17:05] <ariel> Well she said it wasn't recognizing any of her usb ports.
[17:05] <martijn> oke
[17:05] <ariel> well, sure...but like what?
[17:05] <sash_> tell me how to install sound drivers!
[17:05] <martijn> tht coul be because of win 2000
[17:05] <ariel> can I somehow copy them over the network?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> kernel upgrade just screwed my LAN,...smb:/ sees nothing
[17:06] <martijn> instaal drivers? I think your sound is broken
[17:06] <ariel> okie...I'll try sharing files over the network or soemthing.
[17:06] <martijn> ubuntu makes 99% of the onboard soundcards work
[17:07] <martijn> Yes That could be the next best thing
[17:07] <martijn> I know for sure now it's win 200
[17:08] <martijn> It doesn't really support usb
[17:09] <reagleBRKLN> people are sending me docx files, so I thought no problem, time to install OO3 on my intrepid
[17:09] <reagleBRKLN> however, the dozens of guides on how to do this all refer to a ppa without the actual debs!
[17:10] <jeiworth> reagleBRKLN: just add the ppa repo and do an aptitude update and aptitude full-uǵrade
[17:10] <jeiworth> upgrade
[17:10] <ariel> okie...so how do I turn on sharing?
[17:10] <martijn> throg a network?
[17:10] <martijn> through?
[17:11] <ariel> yes Martijn...
[17:11] <martijn> U should be able to make a shared folder and make it share with another pc
[17:11] <reagleBRKLN> jeiworth: they aren't there
[17:11] <ariel> so I have my dell xps ubuntu machine and I want to share my usb hard drive on it.
[17:11] <reagleBRKLN> i update, and nada
[17:11] <reagleBRKLN> see... no debs: http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org/
[17:12] <ScorpKing> ariel: use samba for windows network sharing. is it only linux machines on the network?
[17:12] <martijn> is there an other network option on the both?
[17:12] <ariel> yes...so can I share from dolphin?
[17:12] <martijn> I think It's safest to use those and stop messing with the usb
[17:13] <ariel> they are both on the network.
[17:13] <martijn> oke
[17:13] <ariel> and it's my home network so I just want to share them wide open while I copy stuff.
[17:13] <martijn> through what?
[17:13] <martijn> regular networkcard?
[17:14] <ariel> one is wifi and one is hard wired.
[17:14] <martijn> oke good
[17:14] <ariel> I just need to know how to share a folder?
[17:14] <martijn> In windows in de network options is creating a shared folder
[17:15] <ariel> no they are both running ubuntu.
[17:15] <martijn> if you can create a shared networkfile it shoul be accessable through ubuntu
[17:15] <martijn> oh sorry
[17:15] <ariel> And how do I create a shared network file?
[17:15] <ariel> :)
[17:16] <ariel> sorry, I am getting frustrated. :)
[17:16] <martijn> I thought one was on win 2000
[17:16] <nicholas_> hi
[17:16] <ariel> no they are both running ubuntu...one is a live cd
[17:16] <nicholas_> i'm new with linux
[17:16] <nicholas_> can anyone help with some steps
[17:17] <nicholas_> ?
[17:17] <martijn> oke and one is not using the usb? but the thing you really want is sharing the files on one of them right?
[17:17] <ariel> I just want to copy the files from the one running the live cd to the other one.
[17:17] <martijn> With some steps I can, but I'm allready trying to help can you hold on for a sec?
[17:18] <nicholas_> sure
[17:18] <nicholas_> thx
[17:18] <martijn> oke why?
[17:18] <martijn> something not working?
[17:19] <genii> nicholas_: More information of what you are trying to do, and what steps you might be following, which of these steps is problemmatic, etc, could help us to help you
[17:19] <ariel> sure.
[17:20] <martijn> ariel , do you have the files on a cd or only on usb?
[17:21] <martijn> oke both are on different ubuntus?
[17:22] <martijn> if so it probable is because of te new ext3
[17:22] <ariel> yes.
[17:23] <ariel> no the files are on the internal hard drive of the machine running the live cd
[17:23] <ariel> and I just want to copy them over to the other hard drive on my other ubuntu machine
[17:24] <ariel> so copy files from machine running live cd to machine running native ubuntu via network.
[17:26] <ariel> okie so Ishare set it up to share, but the one that I want to copy FROM is not finding my
[17:26] <ariel> share
[17:26] <bomber_> hh
[17:27] <kaddi> http://philofellow.blogspot.com/2009/05/vimlatexsuite-in-ubuntu-904.html this worked for me, to make latexsuite work, in case anyone else has this problem
[17:27] <jeiworth> ariel: why not just use scp and copy it all through ssh?
[17:27] <bomber_> help
[17:27] <ariel> scp?
[17:27] <embraceunity> bomber_: go ahead
[17:27] <ariel> jeiworth....whatever will work I'm fine with.
[17:28] <bomber_> whai
[17:28] <bomber_> ????????
[17:28] <embraceunity> you said you need help?
[17:28] <ariel> how do I scp?
[17:28] <ariel> how do I log into the one running the live cd?
[17:28] <bomber_> yes
[17:28] <jeiworth> ariel: the machine you want to backup TO is linux or win?
[17:28] <ariel> they are both linux.
[17:28] <ariel> ubuntu
[17:28] <ariel> one is running a live cd.
[17:29] <embraceunity> bomber_: what do you need help with?
[17:29] <jeiworth> ariel: and you have ssh-server installed?
[17:29] <genii> nicholas_: Please do not message me. I answer questions in the public channel only, this is my policy.
[17:29] <wizardslovak> people
[17:29] <ariel> I'm simply trying to get an itunes library off the one running the live cd because it won't boot into windows anymore.
[17:29] <wizardslovak> how do i change permissions
[17:29] <wizardslovak> of directory
[17:29] <bomber_> for my linguage for
[17:29] <ariel> jeiworth...i have no idea.
[17:29] <mackk431> use chmod wizardslovak
[17:30] <lundh> anyone had any issued with kubuntu with unetbootin?
[17:30] <wizardslovak> how to construct command?
[17:30] <wizardslovak> sudo chmod ...
[17:30] <ariel> And the usb ports on that one don't seem to work.
[17:30] <mackk431> man chmod tells you
[17:30] <ariel> so I just want to copy files from one to the other via the network
[17:30] <ScorpKing> ariel: are you still trying to copy files between computers?
[17:30] <genii> wizardslovak: For command usage of chmod, see the manual page of the command with: man chmod
[17:30] <jeiworth> ariel: yeah, well, install ssh-server on the live system simply with sudo aptitude install ssh-server, then go to your other machine, open a shell and type: scp user@livmachine:/path/to/files /path/to/where/you/want/them
[17:31] <ariel> and it can just be wide open...becasue it's my home network and I just want to copy files and then turn off sharing.
[17:31] <ScorpKing> ariel: ah ok. use fish://ip.address.of.othercomputer/
[17:31] <genii> wizardslovak: The "q" key will exit the manpage
[17:31] <jeiworth> ariel: or activate sharing through nfs
[17:31] <ScorpKing> ariel: you might have to install openssh-server on the machines. the fish protocal is scp gui
[17:31] <jeiworth> and then mount the nfs-share on the live system and copy
[17:32] <ariel> oh okie.
[17:32] <wizardslovak> if i want to change owner
[17:32] <ariel> I'll try that.
[17:32] <jeiworth> ScorpKing: ah yes, good point
[17:32] <ariel> hold on though the other machine is in the other room.
[17:32] <ScorpKing> ariel: just checked, dolphin supports fish://
[17:32] <genii> wizardslovak: "chmod" is not for changing owner. "chown" is for that. It also has a manual page you can view.
[17:33] <ariel> okie...just a second.
[17:33] <neoandersen> hello
[17:33] <kaddi> !hi |neoandersen
[17:34] <bomber_> hello
[17:34] <neoandersen> Hi
[17:34] <ahmos> hi genii i need your help please
[17:34] <the1corrupted> Hello...
[17:35] <neoandersen> yesterday I update from 8.04 to 9.04 and before that I was having a problem with firefox and now the problem remains...
[17:35] <genii> ahmos: Please give a description of the issue.
[17:35] <neoandersen> when I go to watch videos on youtube all the system stops...
[17:35] <ScorpKing> neoandersen: what is the problem?
[17:35] <ScorpKing> neoandersen: ah ok
[17:36] <neoandersen> thanks
[17:36] <bomber_> calvino.freenode.net
[17:36] <ScorpKing> neoandersen: do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:36] <neoandersen> can it be just a flash plugin problem?
[17:36] <yakuzi> i've a question concerning "Screen resize and rotate", i'm forced to use the open source ati-drivers (my graphic card isn't supported anymore by fglrx) but, as soon as i use "Screen resize and rotate" to put my resolution right (1680x1050 instead of the default 1280x1024) i get sometimes screen corruption flashes and sometimes my system freezes, now, i added in xorg.conf a rule on Device section with the option XAA for rendering, and i didn't have had a cr
[17:36] <yakuzi>  far, but i still have the rare screen corruptions
[17:36] <ahmos> genii i only want to mount my partitions without the need to enter a root password every time here is my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/165542/
[17:36] <neoandersen> my computer is a mess...
[17:37] <ScorpKing> ahmos: you can edit the sudoers file for that
[17:37] <neoandersen> first I intalled ubuntu and then ubuntustudio and yesterdy I intalled kubuntu over it because the x was not working...
[17:37] <ScorpKing> ahmos: sudo su (to become root)
[17:38] <tsimpson> ScorpKing: umm, why "sudo su"?
[17:38] <neoandersen> and then I removed studio and kubuntu stuff and upgraded to ubuntu 9.04
[17:38] <ScorpKing> ahmos: then visudo to edit the sudoers file
[17:38] <genii> ahmos: This disk is encrypted?
[17:38] <neoandersen> so I have programs from the 3 ubuntu types...
[17:38] <yakuzi> altough...rare...i see them a bit more now but you can't count on it
[17:39] <ScorpKing> ahmos: add this line at the end - %disk ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mount
[17:40] <ariel> okie so i installed openssh server on the livecd machine.
[17:40] <ariel> so now how do I get to it.
[17:40] <ScorpKing> ahmos: that will allow all users in the disk group to mount without a password
[17:40] <ariel> how do I figure out the ip?
[17:40] <neoandersen> I have flashpluginnonfre and ubunturestrictedextras...
[17:40] <Lupus-SLE> Hey people, I'm wanting to make a backup of some data which I have locally on my debian server. However I'm wanting to encrypt it, I'm wondering what to do to encrypt it between encrypting it locally with truecrypt and moving the file, or some sort of setup that allows me to mount it remotely as a share.
[17:40] <ScorpKing> ariel: open dolphin and right click next to the /home/username and select edit
[17:41] <neoandersen> what was that?
[17:41] <ScorpKing> ariel: enter fish://192.192.192.192/ or whatever it is
[17:41] <ScorpKing> ariel: ifconfig in konsole
[17:42] <neoandersen> Scorpking do you know what the problem is?
[17:42] <ariel> scorp..thanks...brb.
[17:42] <ScorpKing> neoandersen: it could be a problem with the plugin. try removing it and installing it again
[17:43] <neoandersen> I just saw in synaptic that I have flashpluginnonfre and ubunturestrictedextras...
[17:44] <ScorpKing> neoandersen: install kubuntu-restricted-extras and see if it helps
[17:44] <ariel> okie...what do I use for user and password on the livecd machine?
[17:44] <ScorpKing> ariel: no idea. open konsole and type passwd on the livecd box
[17:45] <ScorpKing> ariel: you'll be able to setup a password for the ubuntu user
[17:46] <ariel> okie...hrm.well I seem logged in..but it's not showing me anything.
[17:46] <ariel> says zero items.
[17:46] <ScorpKing> ariel: is there a path?
[17:46] <neoandersen> if I remove the flash plugin non free and reinstall the ubuntu restricted extras would it be a possible solution?
[17:47] <neoandersen> Helṕ please
[17:47] <ScorpKing> neoandersen: it might work. try searching the forums as well
[17:47] <ariel> well I just did fish://ip.address like you said.
[17:47] <ariel> and It appeared to log me in.
[17:47] <ner0x> How can I setup my X for multiple displays?
[17:47] <ariel> but nothing is showing.
[17:47] <ariel> so am I not shared properly on the live cd box?
[17:48] <ScorpKing> ariel: ok and does show what directory you're in? the /home/ubuntu/ directory might be empty
[17:48] <neoandersen> but sometimes all stops and i must restart...
[17:48] <ahmos> sorrey genni  i think i was diconnected
[17:48] <ScorpKing> ariel: or press <F5> to refresh
[17:48] <neoandersen> I don't think it is just a flash plugin problem?
[17:48] <ScorpKing> ner0x: twinview is a start i think
[17:48] <neoandersen> I don't know from where to begin...
[17:48] <ariel> no it doesn't say what directory I'm in.
[17:49] <ner0x> ScorpKing: I know how to do it manually, does Kubuntu have a utility for it?
[17:49] <ScorpKing> ariel: log in again then. try fish://localhost/
[17:49] <ariel> oh...oh...Ihave a list. :):):)
[17:49] <ariel> omg.
[17:49] <ScorpKing> ner0x: not that i know of. maybe the nex display settings thing supports it
[17:51] <ariel> hrm...okie...so now I need to go to the hard drive.
[17:51] <ariel> I see.
[17:51] <ScorpKing> new*
[17:51] <ariel> so how do I get to the hard drive on there.
[17:51] <ScorpKing> ariel: browse it like your own box
[17:51] <ScorpKing> ariel: you have to fish://ip.of.other.box/ though to get to it
[17:52] <ariel> right...but I'm browing the liveCD and not the internal hard drive of that machine.
[17:52] <ariel> so trying to figure out how to browse to the internal hd.
[17:52] <ScorpKing> ariel: command line version is - scp -r directorywithfiles/ user@192.192.192.192:/home/username/
[17:52] <genii> ahmos: I'm not sure I can help with the mounting/needs password issue. Your fstab is not like one i have seen before
[17:52] <ScorpKing> ariel: you have to mount the hard drive
[17:53] <ahmos> genii that because i installed kubuntu into windows using wubi
[17:53] <ScorpKing> ahmos: what does fdisk -l /dev/sda say?
[17:53] <genii> ahmos: Please do not message me, I assist only in the public channel.
[17:53] <adasz> i want install my logitech webcam but how?
[17:53] <ariel> I think it's mounted...I can browse if if I'm on the liveCD machine.
[17:53] <ahmos> ok sorry
[17:54] <ScorpKing> ariel: what is the path then? i might be in /media/ somewhere
[17:54] <ScorpKing> it*
[17:54] <adasz> i want install my logitech webcam but how?
[17:55] <ahmos> ScorpKing http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/165556/
[17:55] <ariel> well in the livecd file browser it's called local disk.
[17:55] <ariel> I'll try /media
[17:55] <adasz> i want install my logitech webcam but how?
[17:55] <ScorpKing> adasz: look here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TitleIndex
[17:58] <ner0x> It doesn't seem like kubuntu has a lot of packages.
[17:58] <ScorpKing> ahmos: how did you set it up that it asks for a password at boot? where exactly does it ask for the password?
[17:58] <ner0x> Either that or I'm searching a smaller database than I should be.
[17:58] <ScorpKing> !repos | ner0x
[17:59] <ariel> hrm.
[17:59] <ariel> It won't let me browse there.
[17:59] <ner0x> ubottu: So what I'm looking for most likely will not be on a livecd?
[18:00] <ahmos> ScorpKing i mean everytime i start the os and then open dolphin and then click on any parition it asks me for a root password
[18:00] <tsimpson> ner0x: there are only a few packages in the liveCD, because of size restrictions
[18:00] <torgny_j> ner0x: no probably not
[18:01] <ariel> it's one /media/Local Disk or /dev/sda1
[18:01] <ariel> but I can't seem to browse there.
[18:01] <ner0x> I'm looking for the Catalyst Framework.
[18:01] <torgny_j> ner0x: check ubottu's links above, I currently have 26 627 packages to search from
[18:01] <ner0x> When i search KPackageManager for Catalyst it shows nothing.
[18:01] <ariel> okie...I gotta take a break for a bit.
[18:01] <ScorpKing> ahmos: haha.. just enter your normal password :)
[18:01]  * tsimpson has 27245 packages available in Jaunty
[18:01] <ariel> thanks guys.  bbl.
[18:02] <torgny_j> ner0x: I get several hits on catalyst
[18:02] <torgny_j> none with capital C though
[18:02] <tsimpson> !info libcatalyst-perl
[18:02] <ScorpKing> ahmos: you can stop it from askin a password by editing the sudoers file like i explained in the beginning
[18:02] <tsimpson> would that be it?
[18:02] <ner0x> torgny_j: Found catalyst, now looking for kbudget.
[18:03] <ner0x> torgny_j: Any specific way to set up multiple displays or should I use nvidia-settings or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf myself?
[18:03] <ahmos> ScorpKing theproblem is that i want to have the permission always. for example the os can't hibernate because if it saved the data on the disk it won't be able to load the hibernating file from the partition!!!!
[18:04] <torgny_j> ner0x: nvidia-settings has worked ok for me
[18:04] <torgny_j> ner0x: so try that and if it won't get the job done you'll probably have to edit your xorg.conf
[18:04] <ner0x> torgny_j: I'm installing kubuntu shortly after I return from work. I'm sure I'll have better chances there.
[18:04] <ScorpKing> ahmos: i know. add yourself to the "disk" group and your user will always be able to mount it without a password
[18:05] <torgny_j> ner0x: kbudget doesn't seem to be in the ubuntu repos and the download link on kde-apps.org is broken
[18:06] <torgny_j> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kbudget?content=9755&PHPSESSID=e5af
[18:06] <ScorpKing> ahmos: you'll still have to %disk ALL=NOPASSWD: /bin/mount to the sudoers file though
[18:07] <ner0x> torgny_j: Might be deprecated.
[18:07] <ner0x> torgny_j: Oh well. Seems like kubuntu has everything I need. I'm sick of having to do so much work to install something on gentoo. :)
[18:07] <neoandersen> flash still isn't working here...
[18:07] <neoandersen> help please
[18:08] <ScorpKing> !flash
[18:08] <neoandersen> thanks
[18:09] <jondecke> can someone help me getting my laptop to display on my tV
[18:09] <neoandersen> my computer is amd64 kind of...
[18:10] <jondecke> I connected to tv using vga cable
[18:10] <jondecke> at first nothing happened, when pushing fnct F8,
[18:10] <jondecke> but when I reboot tv says invalid format
[18:11] <embraceunity> neoanderson: 64 bit flash works fine... the only problem is getting it to work with konqueror usually.... does it work in firefox?
[18:11] <embraceunity> lately it has been weird for me (no sound.... stops in the middle)
[18:11] <embraceunity> do you even get the plugin to show up?
[18:11] <torgny_j> ner0x: yeah most things takes a bit more work in gentoo :)
[18:12] <torgny_j> ner0x: atleast initially
[18:13] <calin> hello
[18:18] <neoandersen> man, there says if flash plugin don't work after sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree I must enter sudo update-flashoplugin
[18:18] <wirechief__> jondecke try googleing for you needs, maybe mthtv ubuntu  or so.
[18:18] <neoandersen> but the last comand don't works
[18:19] <neoandersen> I am going to try gnash then...
[18:21] <jondecke> thank you wirechief
[18:23] <ariel> thought I had it...but no
[18:23] <neoandersen> gnash didn't work too...
[18:23] <neoandersen> : 0
[18:23] <neoandersen> : (
[18:23] <neoandersen> what can I do now?
[18:25] <neoandersen> hello
[18:25] <neoandersen> who knows how to solve flash plugin problems?
[18:26] <Quetschman> Moin
[18:27] <neoandersen> flash plugin is absolutely not working here after I have tried almost everything
[18:27] <neoandersen> Please help
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: 32bit or 64bit ubuntu
[18:28] <neoandersen> 64
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> have you tried the beta plugin? its 64bit
[18:29] <neoandersen> I tried sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:29] <neoandersen> it seems to me it is 64, isn't it?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: no its not
[18:30] <neoandersen> ok
[18:30] <p_quarles> neoandersen: which browser are you using?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> that one is, if you uninstall the stuff you have installed, extract that file to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> should be ok
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> you'll need to create ~/.mozilla/plugins manually
[18:30] <neoandersen> which program I choose to open?
[18:30] <neoandersen> firefox and konqueror
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz; tar zxvf libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz; mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins; rm libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz; mv *.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: that will put the file in the right place for you
[18:32] <p_quarles> I wouldn't count on Flash working with Konqueror; it has in the past, but the next Flash update always breaks it
[18:32] <neoandersen> all this line are bash commands?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: its all one big command
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: it will work with sh, dash, zsh
[18:33] <neoandersen> can I type it all together even the ;;; ;  commas?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: just copy the whole command from here, and paste into konsole
[18:33] <neoandersen> yay!
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: thats why i gave you the EXACT command
[18:34] <the1corrupted> Thank you
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: you can then run: killall firefox; firefox &
[18:35] <neoandersen> dowloading
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: i use cli a lot so helping in irc is dead easy
[18:35] <neoandersen> thanks a lot!
[18:35] <neoandersen> what is cli?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !cli
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: where you probably use the mose, i use commands and keyboard
[18:36] <neoandersen> yeah
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> s/mose/mouse
[18:36] <neoandersen> I would like to use commands as a hacker too...
[18:36] <neoandersen> : )
[18:36] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Can you tell me where Konqueror plugins are?
[18:36] <neoandersen> to solve ploblems and help people
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: i think it uses the mozilla ones, not sure, once you find out, you can nsymlink the file so you dont use double the space for an identical file
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: i'm no hacker but i use cli
[18:38] <nowth> I was wondering... what's the best plugin directory, anyway? I see /usr/lib/firefox/plugins, /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins, /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins, /usr/lib/xulrunner/plugins, /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins, and others...
[18:38] <the1corrupted> ActionParship: Well I tried the command you just gave neoanderson (because I too run a x86_64 system) and it said it couldn't find the .mozilla dir.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> nowth: none are "better"
[18:38] <nowth> but there's got to be a reason there're so many
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: do you use firefox?
[18:38] <mello> i love you irc
[18:38] <nowth> i.e. some are ...at least, newer.
[18:39] <mello> Kubuntu 9.04 install and perfect desktop enviroment
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> nowth: not sure, they just exist, you can ask firefox where it expects to find plugins
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> mello: glad you like it
[18:39] <mello> ?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> mello: i prefer lxde personally
[18:39] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: I'm considering it.
[18:39] <mello> I use KDE 4.2.2
[18:39] <mello> Perfect
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: you just need the .so file in any of the plugin dirs your chosen browser uses
[18:40] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: But I forgot the apt-get command I used to get it in the first place.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:40] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Ah, but my system said it wasn't so straight forward as that.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: i dont see why it wouldnt be, unless you stopped an install halfay
[18:41] <neoandersen> still not working
[18:41] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Wait, I know what it was to begin with.  An apt-get update.  x_x
[18:41] <mello> Lxde, light desktop and run very run
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> neoandersen: can you provide the output of: file ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[18:42] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Anyway, would you know why my system can play flash videos but without sound?
[18:42] <mello> Because I dont enjoy Lxd
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde
[18:43] <mello> Lxde, light x desktop
[18:43] <mello> Very speed
[18:43] <mello> Minimim system requestment and max. performnce
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> mello: yep, its awesome
[18:44] <mello> yes
[18:44] <mello> Kde 4 is very beatiful and funny :D
[18:44] <mello> Crash....
[18:45] <mello> But, l enjoy kde 4
[18:45] <mello> Flash install easy
[18:45] <mello> Kde 4 on click restrirected media and quastion
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> i think kde apps are great, just the kde desktop is a bit too much
[18:45] <mello> tink flash, codec ....
[18:47] <mello> Yesterday Windows RC1 relased
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> i like the native 64bit codec, i have my own script to install it ;)
[18:47] <mello> yes
[18:47] <mello> 64 bit use
[18:47] <genii> !enter
[18:48] <mello> exit, goody bye
[18:48] <Nataouze> hi hi
[18:53] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Where is the firefox plugins folder?
[18:53] <und3rgr0undz3r0> how do i get a normal desktop without the plasma?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: ~/.mozilla/plugins
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: how do you mean?
[18:54] <kaddi>  und3rgr0undz3r0: what do you mean? you want to be able to drag files and shortcuts onto it?
[18:54] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: i accidently closed my desktop on KDE4....
[18:54] <und3rgr0undz3r0> its gone
[18:54] <shiftplusone> Hello, my internet connection worked fine in the last version of kubuntu, but since I upgraded to Jaunty it's not really working. I used to use knetworkmanager, but that doesn't seem to even try to connect anymore. I went to the control panel and used the network manager there, but that doesn't show any signs of life either.
[18:55] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: I have a .mozilla dir but there is no plugins dir in there...
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: alt + f2   type plasma
[18:55] <shiftplusone> Also morprobe -r iwl3945 crashes the comp now as well.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: you need to make it: mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[18:56] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: ok, i ran that command, but maybe i didnt close it. ok i dragged it under the taskbar on accident (DAMN), i cant move the task bar so how do i get it back?
[18:56] <shiftplusone> The drivers themselves seem fine.... I'll try wpa_supplicant manually I guess.
[18:57] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: I'm still having issues with flash player sounds...
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: theres so many guides online about sound in flash, i'd just websearch to see which works for you
[18:59] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in two minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[18:59] <und3rgr0undz3r0> so ActionParsnip, my question is how do i either get my plasm back or how do i get back to a *regular* desktop
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: plasma is a program. try: killall plasma; plasma &   in an alt_f2 thingy
[19:00] <Guest35648> Hi, is there a good description for the "JACK" system?
[19:00] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: plasma is running but its hiding behind my taskbar
[19:01] <nowth> Guest, what do you want to know?
[19:01] <shiftplusone> wpa_supplicant says ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: No such file or directory, any help would be appreciated.
[19:01] <Guest35648> some introduction into the "Jack" soundsystem
[19:02] <Guest35648> what to configure and how...
[19:02] <nowth> http://jackaudio.org/node/11
[19:02] <Guest35648> THX
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: can you close the taskbar?
[19:02] <nowth> I'd suggest you install qjackctl
[19:02] <und3rgr0undz3r0> im not sure how....
[19:02] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Crap...  Now something else went wrong.  I found a command online to run: audioconf set-pulseaudio (Pulse Audio was an audio handler on my comp, so I gave it a try) but now flash doesn't work at all...
[19:03] <luis> hi good morning all of u i just finish inatlling and updating kubuntu-8.04 the reason is cause i cannot use intrepid or jackalope due to drivers problems i dont know if i am going to be able some day to get them anyway, i want to install gnutella but the one in the repositorys is an ancient version does anyone knows a link to download the current version without any hasle pls??
[19:03] <nowth> which is a GUI for the JACK server and can manage audio and hardware/ALSA MIDI connections between your audio applications
[19:03] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: you mean remove the taks manager? but then how the hell would i get it back?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: not sure, can you give a screenshot at all?
[19:05] <nowth> Guest: For lower latencies you'd normally use a real-time kernel, but the current linux-rt kernel is rather unstable (on my machine anyway; I'd have to go back to 8.04!)
[19:05] <luis> or any other p2p cause gnunet wont even connect to internet
[19:05] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Sorry, it was asoundconf set-pulseaudio
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> the1corrupted: see what i mean about the many solves for it
[19:06] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but it broke it even further!  Now video doesn't work!
[19:06] <und3rgr0undz3r0> how do i do a screenshot in KDE?
[19:06] <nowth> you could run kgrab
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> !info kscreenshot
[19:07] <tsimpson> !info ksnapshot
[19:07] <tsimpson> pre-instilled in kubuntu
[19:07] <ariel> ok I managed to ssh into my livecd machine.
[19:07] <ariel> can I copy files somehow that way?
[19:07] <luis> ok txs anyway
[19:08] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: ill uplaod my screen somehere for you to see
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> www.tinypic.com   ww.imageshack.us
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> www.imageshack.com
[19:09] <ariel> ok WTF...I think fish is working!!! OMG
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> !info fish
[19:10] <tsimpson> fish:// uses ssh, if you have ssh you can use fish://, but consider using sftp:// if you can
[19:10] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3108/snapshot1c.png
[19:10] <tsimpson> the fish protocol is KDE only (KIO)
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: nice magicarp dude
[19:10] <tsimpson> I use the term "protocol" lightly
[19:10] <und3rgr0undz3r0> the i dragged the plasma behind or maybe even below the taskbar
[19:10] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: i love magicarp!
[19:10] <the1corrupted> ActionParsnip: Is there a way to undo a command?  I want to reverse asoundconf...
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: i played the pokemon game a big on GB
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: ok, whats in the way of what on here?
[19:12] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: the task mangaer on the bottom, the taskbar thingy, is OVEr my plama desktop, i dragged it under there accidently, because i have a shitty touchpad
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: do you mean in the system tray (near the date / time)
[19:15] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: i mean its somewhere under the whole bar, i t may be under the date/time it may be under the K menu, may be under my open programs, i dont know, but It must be tehre because if i try and run plasma manuall via terminal it says everything is working fine
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: if you right click plasma and customise the bar, you may be able to move stuff around
[19:18] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: i cant move the bar say to the left of maybe to the top for a bit? i just need to find my desktop! i dont even care if i have to go back to the regular desktop w/o plasma!
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: possibly, i gave up on kde desktop a long time ago
[19:18] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I would prefer to get my plasma back though...
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: you could try loggin in to a command line environment and rename ~/.kde
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: it'll give you default kde sttings for ALL kde apps
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: there may be a more graceful way
[19:25] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip: ok
[19:30] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ....
[19:37] <ariel> takes some deep breaths.  I am so stressed out today.  Sheesh. :)
[19:37] <teix> salut all
[19:37] <ariel> salut
[19:38] <teix> c'est vide ici ^^
[19:38] <tsimpson> !fr
[19:39] <teix> oups....okay I'll speak english ^^
[19:39]  * ariel only knows english. I'm not very worldly.
[19:40] <ariel> Maybe when the children grow up a little more I'll have time/money to travel. :)
[19:40] <teix> somebody know why I can't save my file xorg.conf ?
[19:40] <ariel> are you root?
[19:40] <teix> yes
[19:40] <ariel> hrm.
[19:40] <ariel> oh are you in x?
[19:41] <teix> in X ? can you explain
[19:41] <ariel> you probably can't be running x when you edit that one.
[19:41] <jeiworth_> of course you can
[19:41] <ariel> Do you have your windowing environment running?
[19:41] <teix> yes
[19:41] <jeiworth_> teix: what is the error message?
[19:41] <ariel> See, shows what I know.
[19:41] <genii> I doubt you're actually running root.
[19:41] <ariel> :)
[19:42] <jeiworth_> i second hand genii
[19:42] <teix> wait I watch
[19:42] <teix> unable to create new X config backup file 'etc/X11/xorg;conf.backup
[19:43] <jeiworth_> teix: change the ; for a .
[19:43] <teix> oohh scuse it's a . and not a ;
[19:44] <jeiworth_> ok, then nothing more? just unable to create?
[19:44] <teix> my ubuntu don't find my screen in DVI
[19:44] <genii> Looks like you're missing a leading-edge / before "etc" also
[19:44] <jeiworth_> genii: good point
[19:44] <floown> hello
[19:45] <floown> I have installed Wireshark for monitoring my network but I don't know where I should enter the interface. Can I have some help please?
[19:46] <teix> the /etc is good
[19:46] <teix> it's a mistake of copy
[19:46] <ariel> I dunno, back in the day you had to be in just a shell to edit/save xorg.conf because if you were in X then X had the file open.
[19:47] <jeiworth_> ariel: i hardly beleive that
[19:48] <ariel> jei, you don't have to.
[19:48] <ariel> I mean you don't have to believe that. :)
[19:48] <jeiworth_> ariel: thanks! :oP
[19:48] <ariel> jei, no problem. :)
[19:48] <tsimpson> I never remember having to kill X to edit xorg.conf. but then again, the only time I edited xorg.conf was when X would not start
[19:49] <jeiworth_> lol
[19:49] <ariel> tsimpson...yeah see...because you used to have to screw with screen resolution settings and stuff.
[19:50] <tsimpson> X does not lock xorg.conf (and never did), so I should not matter if it's running or not
[19:50] <tsimpson> it just reads it once, at start up
[19:50] <p_quarles> you don't have to exit X to edit xorg.conf; it certainly doesn't keep the file open; it reads it on startup
[19:50] <p_quarles> what tsimpson said
[19:50] <ariel> Hrm...well I'm probably wrong.  It certainly wouldn't be the first  time. :)
[19:51] <ariel> Heck it might not even be the second time.
[19:51] <ariel> :)
[19:52] <ariel> somehow I got that lady's itunes library copying to a different hard drive so I'm relatively happy.
[19:54] <ariel> Ok, I spoke too soon...it just stopped. hrm.
[20:01] <knex> hello
[20:11] <alessandro> !ciao
[20:11] <genii> !it
[20:24] <robinr> what are "blocked updates"?
[20:25] <robinr> i'd like to know why they are blocked
[20:25] <combo> hello everybody, where can get from latest version kubuntu with KDE 3.5 ? :)
[20:26] <genii> combo: First: It is unsupported and may do horrible things to your computer, which we won't help you with.  Second: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
[20:26] <kaddi> how can i navigate in the k-menu using the keyboard? Especially in the applications-part how do i enter a sub-menu, how do i leave it?
[20:26] <combo> genii, i just want all stuff like i had in my kub-7.10 before support expired
[20:26] <combo> genii, just can't stand KDE 4...  :(
[20:27] <combo> btw. where PYPANEL is gone ? it dissapeared from repos  ?? :/
[20:27] <genii> combo: 8.04 with kde3 is still supported.
[20:28] <combo> genii, yeap, but only since october. which means in few months i'll have to install another version :(
[20:28] <combo> genii, i had that 7.10 for almost 18 months - all just i wanted :(
[20:28] <combo> * all just as I wanted
[20:29] <genii> combo: As far as I know 8.04 being a long-term release, it will be supported for one year past the next LTS. The next long term support release is April 2010. So Your 8.04 should be good for a while yet
[20:30] <combo> genii, good to hear that :)
[20:30] <||ugh_sg> combo has any answerd you question yet?
[20:30] <combo> ||ugh_sg, what?
[20:31] <||ugh_sg> If you want KD3, which is QUITE resonable, go here:      http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[20:31] <combo> ||ugh_sg, oh, I missed sorry a lot, i'm checking your link now...
[20:31] <||ugh_sg> I use only KDE3 on production machines, as it's production quality.  KDE4 should be up there, maybe later this year if we are all lucky.
[20:31] <combo> ||ugh_sg, thought for a while you're bot ;p
[20:32] <combo> ||ugh_sg, oh, btw. do u use openbox ?
[20:32] <combo> ||ugh_sg, looking where to get pypanel from (?)
[20:33] <||ugh_sg> No, I have not used Openbox.  Nor have I ever heard of pypanel.
[20:33] <combo> ||ugh_sg, looks for a good solution of my problem. but does it make my amarok and delphin looking like in 7.10 ?
[20:34] <combo> ||ugh_sg, i've little old comp so using it, cuz it works fast to me. very good stuff - openbox+pypanel - recomend that :)
[20:34] <||ugh_sg> It's a KDE-3.5.last set of packages, so you get the best of 3.5, nothing more modern.
[20:35] <combo> ||ugh_sg, veery glad to hear all of this. that's exactly what i needed :)
[20:35] <||ugh_sg> combo: for my "must be fast" host I still use VTWM, but then in my book that's a new fangled window manager!
[20:35] <combo> ||ugh_sg, thanks a lot :)
[20:36] <||ugh_sg> Glad to help.
[20:37] <||ugh_sg> Oh, looking at Openbox it lacks one critical feature that I will not live without, tabed windows.
[20:38] <combo> ||ugh_sg, looks nice :) but i would choice my OB ^^
[20:38] <combo> ||ugh_sg, waaaait?! where did u get fro the panel right down ?
[20:38] <combo> ||ugh_sg, there where u have all task, menus, clock, etc ?
[20:38] <combo> ||ugh_sg, u had to install it extra, right ?
[20:39] <combo> ||ugh_sg, or it was already in that VTWM ?
[20:39] <||ugh_sg> Catching up...
[20:39] <maxooo> hi, I installed grub2 and would like to know if anyone knows how to skin it, to make it more eyecandy
[20:39] <combo> ||ugh_sg, cuz in openbox you need to set everything... even application to emulate your wallpaper
[20:40] <combo> ||ugh_sg, ok, going to try some new stuff. thanks for help one more time. bye
[20:40] <||ugh_sg> combo: Your thinking too much pron for me, I want functionality not just cute wallpaper that I never see under all my windows.
[20:43] <maxooo> hi, I installed grub2 and would like to know if anyone knows how to skin it, to make it more eyecandy
[20:50] <BluesKaj> smbclient is broken on Jaunty ..times out on mshome
[20:51] <BluesKaj> smb  broke after the latest kernel upgrade :(
[20:53] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: no it hasnt
[20:53] <eagles0513875> for me the network-manager widget brokew
[20:57] <BluesKaj> well, mine times out for no reason
[20:57] <eagles0513875> O_O
[20:58] <eagles0513875> check your security settings on it i have rw settings no login right now and it works
[21:01] <JDahl> I would to setup a VPN client for a Cisco VPN server in Kubuntu 9.04 (I have .pcf configuration file) - what is the best to do that in Kubuntu?  Ubuntu has it integrated in gnome-network-manager
[21:01] <eagles0513875> !vpn | JDahl
[21:01] <FisherP> Hello, is it safe to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 using the upgrade wizard, or should i try to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 first?
[21:02] <JDahl> eagles0513875: thanks
[21:02] <eagles0513875> no problem i should do the same need vpn but does vpn work over wifi or you have to be wired
[21:03] <JDahl> eagles0513875: why is the focus on gaming-VPN?  is this different from connecting to a company VPN server?
[21:04] <eagles0513875> JDahl: not sure i do know there is open vpn
[21:04] <eagles0513875> !openvpn
[21:04] <eagles0513875> night all
[21:04] <JDahl> eagles0513875: I don't think this is what I am looking for... I specifically need Cisco VPN
[21:05] <doleyb> FisherP: I'm told you must update one step at a timp
[21:05] <FisherP> doleyb: thanks
[21:05] <joshjtl> hi folks, what does jaunty use for gtk apps ... and to make firefox look so much like oxygen theme?
[21:06] <doleyb> joshjtl: oh tell me if you find out!
[21:06] <doleyb> joshjtl: (I am especially interested in why jaunty's gtk applications play sound effects when I press buttons)
[21:07] <auxbuss> gtk-qt-engine
[21:07] <auxbuss> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/343677
[21:07] <d1ego> hallo... anyone available for a quick question on KMail?
[21:08] <auxbuss> kmail: crashes a lot :-(
[21:08] <d1ego> it is not my problem, at the moment
[21:08] <auxbuss> ah! an sop
[21:09] <d1ego> my problem is that I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04
[21:09] <d1ego> so KMail 1.11.2
[21:10] <d1ego> and the visualization of messages is changed
[21:10] <d1ego> I don't like it and I would like to have it as before but I wasn't able to change it
[21:11] <d1ego> messages are now grouped in a coloumn named "subject" (I guess, because I am using the Italian version)
[21:11] <d1ego> more thar subjects it is actualy a list of sender
[21:12] <d1ego> I would like to have the messages witout grouping and listed for date
[21:12] <d1ego> any idea?
[21:13] <auxbuss> dlego: there's five dropdowns at the top, config is via these
[21:13] <auxbuss> dlego: next to the search box
[21:16] <yankus> кто хжесь
[21:16] <yankus> здесь
[21:18] <genii> That definitely didn't look like German
[21:19] <andi__> test
[21:20] <lorecaster> I want to set up a home web-server for a personal webpage... on an independant tower... (hopefully using 09.04) can any one direct me to a channel for this?
[21:20] <genii> andi__: We see you, yes.
[21:20] <lorecaster> hey genii
[21:20] <andi__> thx
[21:20] <genii> lorecaster: #ubuntu-server   perhaps?
[21:20] <lorecaster> i'd need the server distro?
[21:20] <andi__> just trying
[21:21] <genii> lorecaster: Not neccesarily. But since when you install it has all the webserver,databse,php  and so on preconfigured, it's usually better to start with it. No desktop though
[21:22] <lorecaster> no worries :D i'll hop in that room once i download the material. thanks so much! you're the best, man.
[21:23] <genii> lorecaster: No problem
[21:24] <d1ego> auxbuss: GREAT
[21:24] <d1ego> thank you
[21:24] <d1ego> I didn't notice the 5 dropdowns!
[21:25] <alexandernst> Could somebody tell me why strigi isn't working on Kubuntu 9.04 + KDE 4.2.3 ?  (nor older versions)
[21:30] <nadie__> biblioteca: ???????
[21:32] <patrick-Ubuntu> hi, I would like to launch ushare at startup but it crashes because it's expecting an internet connection and it's started before the connection is up. What should i do to launch ushare only after the internet connection is up?
[21:32] <patrick-Ubuntu> i have a wireless connection
[21:37] <mackk431> how is ushare started?
[21:42] <PSiL0> Intrepid here.. So, did anyone have excessive journaling activity after resuming from suspend?  In my case, the journal effectively slows everything down to an unusable crawl for 5-10 minutes.
[21:48] <PSiL0> hmm, it seems like it is this bug.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/14494
[21:50] <cornelia> hey guys, got problems with the Broadcom STA wireless driver which just won't show up in  hardware drivers under Jaunty..any ideas?
[21:53] <amgarchIn9> hi! where is "acroread" in Jaunty? I see only the old one installed from INtrepid.
[21:54] <patrick-Ubuntu> mackk431: ushare -x
[21:55] <exonel> helo
[21:56] <exonel> i have a problem with konqueror.......... could someone help me, when i go to youtube the videos don't want to sound..........
[21:56] <noaXess> normaly where is the synptics toupad listed? as lspci or lsusb?
[21:56] <noaXess> how cani control my synaptics touchpad under KDE4?
[22:05] <cornelia> how do you reinstall packages in ''KPackageKit?!?
[22:08] <diego__> #reloaded
[22:09] <cbwcjw> Hey, so... I'm havin' some great problems with my kubuntu wireless. Forumlink- http://tinyurl.com/cfy98z
[22:10] <cornelia> welcome in the team cbwcjw
[22:10] <cbwcjw> cornelia: Well, you see, the wireless WORKS, just not with my SSID (which works on this computer in the other desktop environments and on other computers in this house)
[22:11] <cornelia> cbwcjw:  you using 9.04 and the new network-manager thing?
[22:12] <cbwcjw> Yea, not at the moment, but Ive had this issue with 8.10 in KDE4.2 and KDE4.1
[22:12] <cbwcjw> When it used knetworkmanager or whatever the default frontend for networkmanager was.
[22:16] <cornelia> cbwcjw:  so your network SSID is not hidden?
[22:17] <cbwcjw> cornelia: No it is not.
[22:19] <cornelia> well you could try to uninstall networkmanager and use wicd (which needs to be installed) instead
[22:19] <redR> hello
[22:21] <cbwcjw> !info wicd
[22:21] <cbwcjw> cornelia: I might do that then.
[22:22] <cornelia> cbwcjw:
[22:22] <cornelia> you should download the wicd files first BEFORE deletin network-manager
[22:22] <cbwcjw> cornelia: Hahah yea.
[22:23] <cornelia> cbwcjw:  dont laugh i just made that mistake
[22:23] <cbwcjw> cornelia: That makes me laugh more :)
[22:23] <cbwcjw> Its hard to use the internet without a network manager eh?
[22:24] <cbwcjw> Anyways, is there a nice front end for wicd?
[22:25] <darrob> hi, will qca and qt be updated soon in kubuntu 9.04 or is that something that is only updated from release to release?
[22:25] <noaXess> how cani automaticaly rebuild a special driver, if there is a new kernel installed?
[22:26] <demarco> kubuntu 9.04 broke my flash video in firefox. how can that be fixed?
[22:26] <noaXess> i have a integrated webcam, syntek and i need build the driver stk11xx manually after installing a new kernel.
[22:28] <demarco> bump
[22:30] <demarco> kubuntu 9.04 broke my flash player for videos in firefox. does anyone know how it can be fixed?
[22:34] <mjheagle8> hey does anybody know of a kde client like gwibber for kde to handle the new facebook api's?
[22:36] <ner0x> What is the difference between kubuntu and debian?
[22:36] <mjheagle8> kubuntu us based on ubuntu.
[22:37] <mjheagle8> ubuntu is based on debian.
[22:37] <ner0x> So wouldn't Debian have the best coverage overall?
[22:37] <mjheagle8> what are you looking for in the distro?
[22:38] <ner0x> some web frameworks, KDE 4.2, apache server, and firefox, that's about it.
[22:38] <ner0x> I'm tired of Gentoo, always having problems installing such and such.
[22:39] <mjheagle8> each are better at different things.
[22:39] <mjheagle8> it depends what you're looking for.
[22:39] <mjheagle8> hmm.
[22:39] <mjheagle8> oh, you use gentoo now?
[22:39] <mjheagle8> i'd go with debian then probably.
[22:40] <mjheagle8> ubuntu has more packages.
[22:40] <mjheagle8> but if i'm not mistaken, they all work with debian. or at least most.
[22:40] <ner0x> Why would I choose debian over kubuntu?
[22:40] <mjheagle8> i think debian is less buggy.
[22:40] <mjheagle8> i use kubuntu.
[22:40] <jussi01> debian is less "configured"
[22:41] <mjheagle8> debian is based on kde, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde thrown on it.
[22:41] <jussi01> mjheagle8: not quite
[22:41] <ner0x> Well, I want KDE, I know that for sure.
[22:41] <jussi01> !debian
[22:41] <mjheagle8> and debian is better for advanced users because its more customizable.
[22:42] <ner0x> mjheagle8: Do they use their own tools to do so, I'm sick of typing commands in konsole. :)
[22:43] <mjheagle8> ner0x: if it has to be terminal customization, then yes. but you could get a gui for most things.
[22:43] <ner0x> mjheagle8: I like kubuntu so far.
[22:43] <ner0x> Just click and go. You say Kubuntu has more packages.
[22:43] <mjheagle8> ner0x: me to, i use that more often that ubuntu now. its my primary os.
[22:44] <mjheagle8> yes, i'm pretty sure.
[22:44] <ner0x> All I need to know is catalyst web framework, dual monitor, KDE 4.2, and custom styles and I"m sold. lol
[22:45] <mjheagle8> custom styles, yes, kde 4.2, yes, i havent used either of the other two.
[22:45] <mjheagle8> i'll look.
[22:45] <ner0x> Does it install from .deb files?
[22:46] <jussi01> !find catalyst
[22:46] <jussi01> ner0x: yep
[22:46] <mjheagle8> looks like catalyst will work.
[22:47] <mjheagle8> i think dual monitor support is decent.
[22:47] <ner0x> jussi01: Why wouldn't you use debian if kubuntu installs from debian files?
[22:47]  * jussi01 goes to bed
[22:48] <mjheagle8> ner0x: debian is the package type.
[22:48] <mjheagle8> ner0x: like an rpm
[22:48] <genii> ner0x: There's an explanation of basic differences here http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian
[22:51] <ner0x> mjheagle8: genii: I see.
[22:51] <ner0x> So Kubuntu is a watered down debian?
[22:51] <ner0x> A most, user friendly version, I should say.
[22:51] <devilsadvocate> ner0x: not really
[22:52] <devilsadvocate> ner0x: debian is more about rock solid stability
[22:52] <devilsadvocate> *buntu is more about a simpler / richer user interface, so the software follows upsteams' release cycle a little more closely
[22:52] <ner0x> So there are softwares on Kubuntu that are not on Debian?
[22:53] <genii> Correct
[22:53] <devilsadvocate> ner0x: quite a few, actually
[22:53] <genii> In fact often Ubuntu packages are sent upstream
[22:53] <devilsadvocate> ner0x: most of them, while they exist in debian, are at older versions
[22:54] <ner0x> How is that possible if you use their package database to build from?
[22:54] <genii> As well as bug fixes which also affect Debian
[22:54] <ner0x> Or am I incorrect int hat assumption.
[22:55] <devilsadvocate> ner0x: if you do use debian though, you may want to consider using debian testing (sid) and backports.org if you want the newest and shiniest releases. debain stable is something i use only on servers and the such
[22:55] <genii> Ubuntu packagers are not locked into using Debian's packages as some starting point. They can make their own from scratch on the LaunchPad PPA system
[22:56] <ner0x> devilsadvocate: That makes sense.
[22:57] <teatime> anyone know a KDE4 tool for scanning?
[22:57] <noaXess> in kpackagekit there are three blocked updates, new kernel.. how to install them over kpackagekit?.. with apt-get dist-ugprade i got it but with kpackagekit?
[22:58] <PROject-Emerald> Can someone please tell me what to tell me friend? He constantly wants to know why Linux > Windows because I'm such a fanboy
[22:58] <ikonia> PROject-Emerald: let him find his own way
[22:58] <PROject-Emerald> and every time I explain he's like "DEN Y DUZ SOFTWARE CUMPANEEZ AND PEEPL MAKE COMPUTRZ WITH WINDW0Z AND NOT LINUX"
[22:59] <ikonia> PROject-Emerald: thats nothing to do with #kubuntu - please try to talk in none l33t speak, english will get you much futher
[22:59] <demarco> help please. kubuntu 9.04 broke my flash player for videos in firefox. does anyone know how it can be fixed?
[22:59] <PROject-Emerald> "Then why do software companies and people make computers with Windows and not Linux?"
[22:59] <ikonia> PROject-Emerald: please stop now
[22:59] <PROject-Emerald> ...Stop asking a question? Wow.
[22:59] <ikonia> PROject-Emerald: this is nothing to do with kubuntu support discussion
[22:59] <noaXess> demarco: what flash plugin is installed?
[23:00] <ner0x> What is the different between kubuntu and xubuntu?
[23:00] <PROject-Emerald> I'm asking for support on persuading my friend into using Kubuntu
[23:00] <demarco> most recent from adobe's website
[23:00] <ikonia> ner0x: desktop is the core different
[23:00] <demarco> 10.xx
[23:00] <ikonia> PROject-Emerald: let him find his own reasons
[23:00] <noaXess> ner0x: the X11 Desktop.. kbuuntu has KDE and xubuntu has XFCE
[23:00] <devilsadvocate> demarco: is flash not working at all or are you getting no sound?
[23:00] <ner0x> ikonia: I see. That's the only differences? hah, that's soft of funny.
[23:00] <PROject-Emerald> -,- Where's the Ubuntu general channel?
[23:00] <noaXess> demarco: have you tried to uninstall it?
[23:00] <ner0x> So kubuntu uses apt-get for installation?
[23:00] <ikonia> PROject-Emerald: #ubuntu-offtopic may be a better place
[23:01] <demarco> i get ads fine.
[23:01] <noaXess> ner0x: all ?ubuntu uses apt-get
[23:01] <ner0x> noaXess: Ah alright, I'm so used to emerge. :-/
[23:01] <demarco> since the update it put an adblocker effect on all flash
[23:01] <devilsadvocate> ner0x: the (graphical) tools used for management, etc, are different.
[23:01] <demarco> requires you to press the gray " > " button to activate it
[23:01] <devilsadvocate> the findamental difference is in that one is based on KDE and the other XFCE
[23:01] <demarco> but videos do not respond. perpetual loading
[23:02] <devilsadvocate> ner0x: you can always install one and install the other within it using an aptitude install xubuntu-desktop and such
[23:02] <demarco> sorry if i do not explain well
[23:03] <noaXess> what about the blocked update in kpackagekit?
[23:04] <noaXess> why can't i install them?
[23:04] <tsimpson> because the kernel packages are not all there it seems
[23:05] <noaXess> tsimpson: but if i run sudo apt-get dist-upgrad i can install them..
[23:05] <noaXess> orif i use adept manager then i can install them too..
[23:05] <tsimpson> does it say that any packages will be removed/held back?
[23:06] <noaXess> tsimpson: yes if i run sudo apt-get upgrade.
[23:06] <tsimpson> then that's why it doesn't want to let you do it
[23:06] <noaXess> tsimpson: and why does it work in adept manager or over konsole with dist-upgrade?
[23:07] <tsimpson> because adept doesn't care if it breaks your system, and apt-get  assumes you know what you're doing
[23:07] <noaXess> hm...
[23:08] <tsimpson> if you use any restricted modules, then installing the updates will break that
[23:08] <noaXess> but bye the way, in kpackagekit, there should be a way to upgrade also kernel
[23:08] <tsimpson> there is, once the packages are fixed
[23:09] <devilsadvocate> noaXess: it might be some safe-upgrade full-upgrade related confusion
[23:09] <devilsadvocate> noaXess: btw, iirc dist-upgrade is depreciated in favour of full-upgrade
[23:09] <tsimpson> it's nothing to do with kpackagekit, it's the packages that are broken
[23:09] <Deekay> yo, where can i find the icon themes i downloaded ?(system settings)
[23:10] <k0pp> hey guys.. ive accidentally broken `ps` on my machine somehow, whenever i run it i get a segfault.. but its not apt-getable, and i cant seem to find the source for it.. reccomendations?
[23:10] <BluesKaj> anyone lose thair LAN access after recent kernel upgrade ?
[23:10] <tsimpson> !find bin/ps
[23:10] <genii> k0pp: Should be in the package called binutils
[23:10] <BluesKaj> !smb
[23:11] <tsimpson> blackflag: [23:08]<tsimpson> if you use any restricted modules, then installing the updates will break that
[23:11] <noaXess> devilsadvocate, tsimpson: ok.. see it...
[23:11] <tsimpson> refering to the kernel
[23:11] <genii> k0pp: Or procps
[23:11] <tsimpson> Deekay: somewhere in ~/.kde/share probably
[23:12] <k0pp> interesting.  ill check it out thats
[23:12] <k0pp> thanks*
[23:13] <k0pp> genii, alot depends on procps, if i remove it so does like half of my system.. how would you suggest i go about reinstalling it?
[23:14] <tsimpson> Deekay: ~/ is your home directory
[23:14] <genii> k0pp: Possibly something like:   sudo apt-get install --reinstall procps
[23:14] <k0pp> oh.. ;/ i never knew that was a flag
[23:14] <k0pp> heh.
[23:16] <k0pp> hrm.. genii, "unable to make backup link of '.bin/ps' before installing new version: "operation not permitted" <-- i've chmodded it to 777 and +x but still no go..
[23:16] <tsimpson> check your root is not mounted read-only and the the partition is not full
[23:17] <genii> tsimpson: Can also just be corrupt
[23:17] <Deekay> tsimpson:  no such folder(kde) there
[23:17] <tsimpson> Deekay: no kde, .kde
[23:17] <tsimpson> *not
[23:18] <tsimpson> the leading '.' makes it "hidden"
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:33] <BluesKaj> dam* dam* ..my LAN is broken...think I'm coming to an end point here ...one more so called "upgrade" that breaks something is going to send me off looking for a linux OS that isn't trying to do everything for you like "Windows"
[23:33]  * genii Krazy-glues some parts of BluesKaj's LAN back together
[23:34] <BluesKaj> genii, why do they keep trying fix stuff that isn't broken ?
[23:34] <genii> BluesKaj: N o idea
[23:35] <BluesKaj> smb craps out
[23:48] <cbwcjw> caldera: You still here?
[23:53] <nicklas_> anyone using quassel here?
[23:54] <cbwcjw> Howdy everybody! Does anybody know how to make wicd connect to my network?