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| ienorand | how do I enable proposed in the sources.lst file? just add "karmic-proposed" ? I'm getting this nice error when I try to do it through synaptic qui: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/OvpGkq | 01:44 |
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| BUGabundo | ienorand: why -are ? | 01:45 |
| BUGabundo | if you have why not simply enable it there? | 01:46 |
| Pici | ienorand: Yes, but there aren't any packages in karmic-proposed. | 01:46 |
| ienorand | Ah, okay... | 01:46 |
| ienorand | ...but then, what kernel is Karmic supposed to be on? | 01:47 |
| Pici | !info linux | 01:47 |
| ubottu | linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.28.11.15 (jaunty), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB | 01:47 |
| Pici | !info linux karmic | 01:48 |
| ubottu | 'karmic' is not a valid distribution ['dapper', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid', 'intrepid-backports', 'jaunty', 'jaunty-backports', 'kde4-ppa', 'kde4-ppa-intrepid', 'kubuntu-experimental', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'medibuntu', 'partner'] | 01:48 |
| Pici | hrm, gotta get that fixed | 01:48 |
| BUGabundo | Linux blubug 2.6.30-2-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 1 01:37:37 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 01:48 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: ^^^ | 01:48 |
| Pici | linux | 2.6.30-2.3 | karmic | source | 01:48 |
| ienorand | Okay... then why?: Linux Mell 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 01:49 |
| Pici | Populating proposed only makes sense post release. | 01:49 |
| Pici | ienorand: You probably have installed that package directly instead of installing one of the packages that will always depend on the latest kernel version | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: still building stuff for it | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: you have to manually choose it | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | only when fully built, will linux-generic depend of .30 | 01:50 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Right, ah, fairenuf | 01:50 |
| Pici | BUGabundo: Ah. I'm not upgraded to Karmic here yet. | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: like nvidia kernel support only landed yesterday | 01:50 |
| BUGabundo | Pici: cutting edge, cutting edge | 01:51 |
| ienorand | Since everyone was running around with .30 I though I'd been left out :) | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | eehe | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: I thought the same | 01:51 |
| ienorand | Oh, just saw the bug for the synaptic-repo-edit, and the held back apt-xapian-index, no news there then... | 01:55 |
| ienorand | meh, so far this is disappointingly stable. | 01:59 |
| BUGabundo | ehehhehe | 02:02 |
| BUGabundo | its stable up until Alpha5 | 02:02 |
| BUGabundo | then all hell breaks loose | 02:02 |
| BUGabundo | I think Feature Freeze is bad :)) | 02:03 |
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| lamalex | does anyone know if empathy replacing pidgin has been revisited for karmic | 04:12 |
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| * ienorand : here comes the nvidia-bash :P | 06:08 | |
| DanaG | Nope. | 06:12 |
| DanaG | I've shoved the nvidia in the corner, now that I have my ATI one back. | 06:12 |
| DanaG | NOw to ponder whether to switch the thing to the koala. | 06:13 |
| sparr | is there a way to get my mouse to ignore double clicks (on any button) shorter than a certain duration? i need a low level solution that will affect games as well as the GUI | 06:16 |
| sparr | and I just realized I asked that in +1, sorry | 06:19 |
| ienorand | DanaG: I already made the switch, only minor bugs here, I was expecting more to be honest :( | 06:21 |
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| mib_76bozm | !empathy | 15:28 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about empathy | 15:28 |
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| mphill | !plymouth | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about plymouth | 16:16 |
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| GatoLoko | nouveau kernel module fails to build in the new 2.6.30 karmic kernel with the current package | 21:17 |
| pace_t_zulu | GatoLoko: I am having machine lockups since kernel 2.6.30 was installed (VMware machine though) i suspect that perhaps the open-vm-toolbox hasn't been built against the new kernel... i will look into it | 21:21 |
| GatoLoko | i think the nouveau thing may be caused by nouveau-kernel-source, in the main git repo there where fixes for 2.6.30 after the package snapshot | 21:25 |
| pwnguin | GatoLoko: this might be something for ubuntu-x to discuss | 21:26 |
| pace_t_zulu | GatoLoko: I see that open-vm-toolbox has not been rebuilt... i am not sure if that's what's causing the instability | 21:26 |
| pace_t_zulu | pwnguin: do you think it's reasonable that the open-vm-toolbox would have to be built against the new kernel? | 21:27 |
| pwnguin | i gotta say, kernel building isn't my expertise | 21:27 |
| pace_t_zulu | me neither | 21:28 |
| pwnguin | ever since i switched to ubuntu, ive had the luxury of ignoring it | 21:28 |
| pace_t_zulu | pwnguin: me too | 21:28 |
| GatoLoko | pace_t_zulu i don't thing opem-vm-tools have anithing to do with nouveau since it's a nvidia driver (does vm emulate nvidia hardware now?) and i'm on real hardware here | 21:31 |
| pace_t_zulu | GatoLoko: i was talking to you more as it pertained to 2.6.30 rather than the nouveau package... | 21:32 |
| pace_t_zulu | apologies for the confusion | 21:32 |
| GatoLoko | you think it may be a kernel problem rather than a module problem? | 21:33 |
| GatoLoko | i'm searching on the nouveau git log to see whether i can find something about 2.6.30 | 21:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | GatoLoko: i don't know, i was just pointing out that i have experience 2.6.30 problems too... i am looking into them | 21:36 |
| GatoLoko | i can't find anything on the git log, but found it on #nouveau logs, nouveaus drm fails to build on 2.6.30 | 21:37 |
| GatoLoko | <RAOF> Gah. It seems drm doesn't build against 2.6.30-rc2, and naieve patches break the DDX. <-- raof is the package maintainer | 21:38 |
| GatoLoko | xD | 21:38 |
| GatoLoko | i think it's time to get our hands dirty and mess with the code | 21:39 |
| pace_t_zulu | GatoLoko: good luck | 21:42 |
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| BUGabundo | my friends I bring very bad news.... | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 22:04 |
| LordKow | BUGabundo: and that is? | 22:06 |
| BUGabundo | for all of you that know me, | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | I'll be leaving development/support/bug for some time, due to personal probs :( | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | LordKow: but i don't think you know me that well, do you ? | 22:11 |
| LordKow | nope | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | I though so | 22:11 |
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| kklimonda | BUGabundo: too bad - for how long are you leaving us? | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | don't know yet | 22:14 |
| MTecknology | BUGabundo: well, you know we'll missing you | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | its out of my hands | 22:14 |
| BUGabundo | its seems I spend WAY to much time online, and computer hogging | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | need to get away for a while to _cure it_ | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | started already unsubing most MLs | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | so IRC and µblogs will be off for a while too | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | this is even quieter then usual.... | 22:28 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Yea... | 22:31 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: did you read the backlog? | 22:32 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: of irc? nah. | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | you should! I sad something very important :\ | 22:33 |
| Rampdog | :) | 22:37 |
| ienorand | Rampdog: :D | 22:38 |
| BUGabundo | hi akgraner | 22:39 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: What? That Ubuntu only gets unstable after feature freeze? :) | 22:40 |
| akgraner | hi | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: NOT that far! LOL | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | akgraner: how are you girl? | 22:40 |
| akgraner | fine just crazy busy... | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | I'll be leaving you guys, tomorowsish | 22:41 |
| BUGabundo | its going to be hard, but I must do it, for a while | 22:41 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Ah, real life calling? | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 22:42 |
| BUGabundo | dad is going crazy at me, for staying up until 3/4 am | 22:43 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Aw, hard times. | 22:49 |
| funkyHat | ooooh anyone else's X messed up in Karmic? | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | funkyHat: works for me | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | what GPU | 22:51 |
| funkyHat | BUGabundo: VBox | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | I just do baremetal | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | nvidia working | 22:52 |
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| ienorand | running fine here as well on nvidia, althoug I haven't gone through the latest partial upgrade though... | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: don't do partials, okay? | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | I won't be here to help you get out of that mess ;P | 23:04 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Yea, I've heard bad stuff about that... although I made quite a few of them before I knew they were bad... Warnings are blatantly a-missing. | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | don't even know why UM shows it | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | should be done on CLI or Synaptic | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | maybe I'll file a bug and nag mvo about it | 23:08 |
| ienorand | And it bascially syas "Run a partial upgrade for now", clearly encouraging it.. | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:10 |
| ienorand | http://www.mibbit.com/up/3g49Uvvu.png << screenie here. | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | hey that's a really bad strng | 23:14 |
| BUGabundo | now I will file a bug | 23:15 |
| BUGabundo | $ ubuntu-bug update-manager | 23:15 |
| ienorand | Hmm, I'm still not completely on the clear why it's bad... likelyness to end up with dependency issues?, and would running apt-get to do the same procedure be any better? | 23:28 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: it actually show you what's removing | 23:29 |
| BUGabundo | or witch libs its REPLACING | 23:29 |
| BUGabundo | UM doesn't | 23:29 |
| BUGabundo | and some times it just REMOVES packages due to depencies not built yet | 23:29 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Ah, right. | 23:30 |
| ienorand | So the keeping back is not as much of a problem as the removing here... why is it even made so that it can remove stuff then? | 23:32 |
| BUGabundo | its APT/DKPG background who does it AFAIK | 23:35 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: but going through with apt, or even u-m, as long as one's checked that nothing is badly replaced/removed should be ok? | 23:43 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: you will see this message often during development | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | yep | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | lots of time stuff is not yet built or is FTBFS or FTBFD | 23:46 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: it is because normal update doesn't install nor deinstall any packages - only updates those that are already installed | 23:46 |
| BUGabundo | and UM offerts it | 23:46 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: atm at least one package can't be upgraded because it's dependency wasn't built. | 23:47 |
| kklimonda | few other need dist-upgrade because they depend on new packages | 23:47 |
| ienorand | Ah, the dist-upgrade wanted to do a whole lot more... | 23:53 |
| BUGabundo | is lP down? | 23:54 |
| BUGabundo | I can't submit the bug | 23:54 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: shouldn't you be taking a break? :) | 23:56 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: works fine | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: last few min online | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | time to go offline | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | just wanted to post UM bug | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/373006 | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | don | 23:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 373006 in update-manager "Update-manager should not incentivate to do Partial Updates" [Undecided,New] | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | *done | 23:57 |
| kklimonda | ah, till midnight? :) | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | ehe for now | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | not even sure I'll be here most of the week now :\ | 23:57 |
| kklimonda | it shouldn't delete packages | 23:57 |
| kklimonda | they just won't be upgraded | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo | so that's a good bye for now... if not before... see you on Release Parttyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy | 23:58 |
| kklimonda | :} | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: feel free to comment on it | 23:58 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: goodbye | 23:58 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: cu | 23:58 |
| * BUGabundo it may be sooner then expected hehe I may not resist it | 23:59 | |
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