| kwwii | good morning everyone | 08:16 |
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| zniavre | bonjour kwwii | 08:16 |
| zniavre | hello | 12:58 |
| zniavre | i can't find the way to add application icon inside metacity title bar | 12:59 |
| zniavre | could you help me? | 12:59 |
| zniavre | im even enable to find the lines in metacity who display this icon | 13:03 |
| kwwii | zniavre1: check these for these lines: | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <draw_ops name="menu_button_icon"> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <icon x="(width-mini_icon_width)/2-2" | 15:56 |
| kwwii | y="(height-mini_icon_height)/2+1" | 15:56 |
| kwwii | width="mini_icon_width" height="mini_icon_height"/> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | </draw_ops> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <draw_ops name="menu_button_normal"> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <include name="menu_button_icon"/> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | </draw_ops> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <draw_ops name="menu_button_pressed"> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <include name="menu_button_icon"/> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | </draw_ops> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <draw_ops name="menu_button_unfocused"> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | <include name="menu_button_icon"/> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | </draw_ops> | 15:56 |
| kwwii | and or the last two lines in <frame_style name="normal" geometry="normal"> , etc. | 15:57 |
| kwwii | <button function="menu" state="normal" draw_ops="menu_button_normal"/> | 15:57 |
| kwwii | <button function="menu" state="pressed" draw_ops="menu_button_pressed"/> | 15:57 |
| === zniavre1 is now known as zniavre | ||
| zniavre | im trying but i can't ... | 16:24 |
| zniavre | practice again i will try later after dinner | 16:25 |
| zniavre | thank you kwwii | 16:25 |
| zniavre | metacity is at least more tricky than the panels | 16:25 |
| thorwil | kwwii, i wanto to clean up the Backgrounds page now. i intend to delete https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=sunslush.jpg for lack of high-res version. isn't exactly great, anyway | 16:50 |
| thorwil | kwwii, how do you feel about http://dindator.blogg.se/images/2009/ubuntu_36793804.jpg ? i think such submissions are no good. i would risk to hurt people's feelings, but you might disagree? | 16:52 |
| kwwii | thorwil: for now I would leave them up...I was just discussing starting up the process for wallpapers again | 17:15 |
| kwwii | so once we know what we want to change we can do it all at once | 17:15 |
| kwwii | and have a good excuse at the same time | 17:15 |
| thorwil | kwwii, i was just about to create 300px high versions of David's and EllE's images to put it all up. makes no sense for sunlush. it's from that shadow-some-number guy who will never follow up with something sensible, anyway | 17:17 |
| kwwii | thorwil: yeah, if you are going to do that kinda work, feel free to remove them then | 17:18 |
| thorwil | good, thanks :) | 17:18 |
| kwwii | if anyone complains we can give them some good advice for improvement and hope that they come back with something nicer :p | 17:18 |
| kwwii | for karmic, I am going to put out some info for the default wallpaper as well as a contest for photos and all other ideas so that we can put them in categories and include them as well | 17:20 |
| kwwii | aka apple | 17:20 |
| thorwil | kwwii, after this cleanup, i would like to announce strict rules, meaning that submissions that are not attached and don't have 300px high versions on the page will be removed | 17:20 |
| * thorwil makes a voodoo doll of mailing list digest mode, rips out it's limbs to disable it for all time | 17:23 | |
| thorwil | for a in *.jpg; do convert $a -resize 300 ${a%%.*}_s.jpg; done | 17:25 |
| kwwii | thorwil: as long as we have a *really* good explanation for newbies | 17:28 |
| kwwii | thorwil: in fact, it would be best to put that script in one file and make it downloadable somehow | 17:28 |
| thorwil | sure | 17:28 |
| thorwil | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds#How to add background images the proper way | 17:29 |
| kwwii | right, and that *should* be good enough but I have learned to never underestimate the stupidity of some newbies :p | 17:31 |
| thorwil | like i don't know that | 17:31 |
| kwwii | hehe | 17:31 |
| thorwil | but i expect nothing from those who can't or won't listen ;) | 17:31 |
| kwwii | well, if we do remove someone's stuff (and it is good stuff) we can send them an email asking them to do it properly | 17:31 |
| kwwii | true as well...although sometime the best artists are the hardest to deal with | 17:32 |
| thorwil | no hope for collaboration and packaging if we should run into such a personality | 17:33 |
| kwwii | well, sometimes you just need to babysit them | 17:35 |
| thorwil | i even went so far to contact EllE, who insterted links to the images on her blog to explain how to attach them. nothing came out of that, though | 17:36 |
| kwwii | oh well, after 10 hours in the office it is time to go back to the hotel | 17:50 |
| SiDi | Hey dashua | 19:34 |
| SiDi | you join at the good time :D | 19:34 |
| dashua | Hey Sidi | 19:34 |
| SiDi | I just finished the xfwm for your new theme ^^ | 19:34 |
| dashua | The broadcom drivers are foobarred in jaunty-proposed so I to compile the new one | 19:35 |
| dashua | Ah nice | 19:35 |
| dashua | Looks good man | 19:35 |
| SiDi | shall i mail it to you or put it on xfce-look ? | 19:35 |
| SiDi | (i mean alvaro theme :p) | 19:35 |
| SiDi | (and btw, i got suggestions regarding panel colors for alvaro) | 19:35 |
| dashua | Oh nice | 19:35 |
| dashua | You can throw it up | 19:36 |
| dashua | Sure, shoot? | 19:36 |
| SiDi | whats your mail again please ? | 19:36 |
| dashua | jws141 | 19:36 |
| dashua | @gmail.com | 19:36 |
| SiDi | well, i think you should use orange only for mouse hover (and a slightly lighter one, with dark grey text font, for instance) | 19:36 |
| SiDi | and by default for the active window, some light grey | 19:36 |
| SiDi | cause here the default orange + light grey wouldn't look great if i didnt have an orange icon theme | 19:37 |
| SiDi | and the text isnt very readable | 19:37 |
| dashua | Alright, I'll make some mods | 19:37 |
| dashua | I'm digging the new scrollbars for Hanso I think they streamline much better especially on apps where there are many scrollbars | 19:38 |
| dashua | Like Rhythmbox | 19:38 |
| SiDi | mailed it to you | 19:38 |
| dashua | Thx | 19:39 |
| SiDi | Did you commit the new scrollbars yet ? | 19:39 |
| dashua | Yeah | 19:39 |
| dashua | Dark totem is rocking pretty good too | 19:39 |
| SiDi | *Downloads* | 19:40 |
| dashua | People are digging Alvaro which I figured they would | 19:40 |
| dashua | They also seem to like those lighter themes | 19:41 |
| dashua | always* | 19:41 |
| SiDi | already on gnome-look.org ? | 19:41 |
| SiDi | i'll upload alvaro to xfce-look now then | 19:41 |
| dashua | Yeah | 19:42 |
| dashua | If you're a Lost fan, you'll catch the correlation | 19:42 |
| SiDi | im not :P | 19:43 |
| dashua | Between those two themes | 19:43 |
| SiDi | can you give me an url ? | 19:46 |
| SiDi | i cant find it x_x | 19:46 |
| dashua | I just pushed xfwm4 to Alvaro | 19:46 |
| dashua | Can you test it? | 19:47 |
| SiDi | im using it atm :D | 19:47 |
| dashua | Ok, just wanted to make sure the source added ok | 19:47 |
| SiDi | If you put it on the web, say in the changelog that not all the buttons are done tho. I couldn't find inspiration for the stick/shad buttons | 19:47 |
| dashua | Ok | 19:48 |
| SiDi | and when you make metacity themes, do _not_ hesitate to make more buttons hehe ;p | 19:48 |
| dashua | Ha, alright | 19:48 |
| dashua | That metacity is not done. The outer frame needs some work | 19:48 |
| SiDi | esp. the circle (sticky for xfwm) and line+arrow up/down (shadow toggled/not toggled) | 19:48 |
| SiDi | It's quite sexy already | 19:49 |
| SiDi | and the buttons rock :P | 19:49 |
| SiDi | i'll see later if i can make a sticky and shadow button for this one | 19:49 |
| dashua | Thx. If you zoom in with Compiz you'll see what I'm talking about. | 19:49 |
| dashua | It's because I rounded the corners | 19:49 |
| * SiDi doesn't use compiz :P It doesnt support xfwm yet. | 19:50 | |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Alvaro?content=104145 | 19:51 |
| SiDi | heh ubuntu-art :) i was looking on gnome-look and couldnt find it x_x | 19:51 |
| dashua | SiDi: Can you email the Hanso xfmw4 ? | 19:52 |
| dashua | I'll commit it | 19:52 |
| dashua | I lost it =/ | 19:52 |
| SiDi | sure | 19:56 |
| SiDi | oh btw dashua i'm not sure alvaro appears in gnome-look | 19:56 |
| dashua | Really? | 19:57 |
| dashua | They all usually sync | 19:57 |
| SiDi | aaw, bandwidth is slow ;x the hanso mail is sent btw | 19:58 |
| dashua | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Alvaro?content=104145 | 19:58 |
| dashua | Thx | 19:58 |
| SiDi | oh, also, the text in the progress bars is white with alvaro | 19:59 |
| SiDi | i'm not sure thats very readable ^^ | 19:59 |
| dashua | Ok | 20:01 |
| SiDi | About time : http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=104246 | 20:02 |
| SiDi | Took me several minutes of loading :D | 20:02 |
| dashua | Wow | 20:02 |
| dashua | They are all lagging pretty decent today | 20:02 |
| SiDi | It's me actually :D | 20:04 |
| dashua | Slow here too | 20:06 |
| dashua | The new Breathe navigation icons look really good on top of Hanso's toolbar | 20:07 |
| dashua | Really stand out | 20:07 |
| dashua | Contrast very well | 20:07 |
| SiDi | i dont have them yet | 20:08 |
| SiDi | i got the PPA but _MMA_ didn't make a package for a while | 20:08 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13608/ screenshot_030_32L0aP.png | 20:09 |
| dashua | I have the package. Send if you want it? | 20:09 |
| dashua | 2 mb | 20:10 |
| SiDi | Sure :D | 20:10 |
| SiDi | oh btw thanks but the image link problem is fixed :P dont bother with cutting uris anymore | 20:10 |
| dashua | Ah good | 20:11 |
| SiDi | hm yeh it looks great | 20:12 |
| SiDi | (but i think it'd look even better if the light was coming from up ^^) | 20:13 |
| SiDi | Thanks dashua, got the deb | 20:14 |
| dashua | Np | 20:14 |
| SiDi | climbed at 400 kB/s with a download manager ^^ | 20:14 |
| dashua | Hanso xfwm4 committed to Hanso :) | 20:14 |
| SiDi | wee :) | 20:14 |
| SiDi | btw i'll probably improve the hanso xfwm this week-end | 20:15 |
| dashua | Awesome, just email me the changes | 20:15 |
| dashua | Maybe I'll register a project for the new themes and you can work on them as well? | 20:16 |
| dashua | Merge the junk into a project | 20:16 |
| SiDi | Sure ;) | 20:18 |
| SiDi | i'll be the xfce QA tester :P | 20:18 |
| dashua | Yeah, that'll work :) | 20:19 |
| dashua | Sorry, new crack for Nvidia beta drivers | 20:28 |
| SiDi | :p | 20:28 |
| dashua | My Dell Mini is listed still "In Production". I wonder if the order is foobarred? | 20:29 |
| dashua | That's a long time. | 20:29 |
| dashua | Maybe they were inundated with orders, which is probably the case at $199 | 20:30 |
| SiDi | those mini at 200$ with ubuntu ? | 20:30 |
| SiDi | thats more than a good offer imo :P | 20:30 |
| SiDi | if i hadn't bought a laptop 5 months ago i'd have imported one to france | 20:30 |
| dashua | Yeah | 20:30 |
| dashua | I'm going to jack the ram up to 2 gig and add a 64 ssd | 20:31 |
| dashua | Maybe even dual-boot OSX just because it works ;) | 20:31 |
| SiDi | meeh :p | 20:31 |
| SiDi | hm i'll have to make a "desktop" icon with my wallpaper ^^ | 20:32 |
| dashua | I'm going to have to try new steppers for Hanso. OOo is a bitch. | 20:34 |
| dashua | Bah | 20:34 |
| SiDi | OOo *never* looks fine | 20:34 |
| SiDi | they should really review their interface | 20:34 |
| dashua | Shit is always reversed | 20:34 |
| dashua | I might have to keep them. They integrate well in most every other app | 20:35 |
| dashua | You were right, the darker one are very nice but can be obtrusive at times | 20:35 |
| dashua | ones* | 20:35 |
| SiDi | You can't fight OOo's steppers :p | 20:37 |
| SiDi | same with filezilla | 20:37 |
| SiDi | they claim its the themes but actually the thing they build their UI on isn't fully compliant | 20:38 |
| dashua | Yeah | 20:38 |
| dashua | How do you like Breathe? | 20:39 |
| SiDi | That's hard to say | 20:39 |
| SiDi | i've been using it for about 2 months now, instead of human | 20:39 |
| SiDi | some icons are damn sexy with a lot of details | 20:39 |
| SiDi | but there are some that i dont like :/ | 20:40 |
| SiDi | like the one used by the xfce4-places-plugin, its too orange, it doesnt look nice with a blue theme | 20:40 |
| dashua | Once it's complete, I think it'll be great | 20:40 |
| SiDi | i hope so :P | 20:40 |
| SiDi | dashua: isnt there a rendering problem with the 'left' icon of breathe ? | 20:46 |
| SiDi | it looks bigger than the others :/ | 20:46 |
| dashua | I think that may be intentional. | 20:47 |
| SiDi | I think i'll keep the human navigation icons then ^^ | 20:48 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13611/screenshot_031_WGqJRb.png | 20:49 |
| dashua | This is an issue. | 20:50 |
| SiDi | dashua: ping ? | 21:48 |
| SiDi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/165692/ Added this in Alvaro | 21:51 |
| SiDi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/165696/ ^ | 21:57 |
| SiDi | dashua: i also changed the selected_fg_color to #333, except for style "menu-item" = "dark" for which i turned them back to #fff | 22:01 |
| SiDi | text on progress bars and selected text is easier to read with that | 22:01 |
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