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DougieRichardsonShane_Fagan: Looks good, thanks I've committed it.00:00
DougieRichardsonOK, gotta run - see you all soon00:00
Rocket2DMnOK guys, BT Wiki Focus Group meeting time, being held here, since we are really part of the doc team01:04
Rocket2DMnPlease see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki01:04
Rocket2DMnI'm gonna keep this really short01:04
Rocket2DMnNow that Jaunty has been released and schedules are starting to open up, we will start the Summer of Documentation01:05
Rocket2DMnLast year we focused specifically on the wiki, but this year we will expand into all documentaiton, including system docs01:05
Rocket2DMnyou can see last year's notes here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki/SoD200801:05
Rocket2DMnFor the wiki, we will focus on getting docs updated for Jaunty01:06
Rocket2DMnwe will also work on implementing and using the Tag system01:06
Rocket2DMnalso see here for the doc team's list of tasks - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki/Tasks01:06
Rocket2DMnThe doc team recently reorganized their structure, so the open team is now here - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-contributors01:07
Rocket2DMnwe dont use DocuMENTORS anymore01:07
Rocket2DMnthat team there is for anybody contributing to documentation, so if you're not on it, you should join it01:07
Rocket2DMnany questions so far?01:08
Rocket2DMnnothing?01:08
Rocket2DMnhas everybody here used the wiki?01:08
Rocket2DMnI feel like I'm talking to myself01:09
ds305We're listening.01:09
Rocket2DMnOk, anybody who currently isn't should join the doc-team mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc01:10
TuxPurplelagging01:10
Rocket2DMnEven just listening in on it will give you a good idea about what is going on the with the doc team, this is esp. useful to those interested in system docs01:10
Rocket2DMnbtw, the docteam homepage is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam01:10
Rocket2DMnit is being restructured a little bit right now, but it is mostly complete01:11
Rocket2DMnDoes anybody have any questions about using the wiki? or how exactly to get involved with the docs?01:11
ds305I have a procedural question.01:11
Rocket2DMngo for it ds30501:12
ds305I had to upload about 10 graphics for updating a wiki. Each I assume generated a message to somebody.01:12
ds305Is there a way to upload multiples?01:12
Rocket2DMnafaik, you need to upload them one at a time.  If uploading attachments mails anybody, it is really limited01:12
Rocket2DMnI wouldn't worry about it01:12
* ds305 Will not worry.01:12
Rocket2DMnHowever, if you are updating a wiki page, please use the PREVIEW button, not SUBMIT until you are finished with your changes.  that is good wiki etiquitte01:13
Rocket2DMnPlease, ask any questions that you have, now is the best time01:13
Rocket2DMnOk...01:14
ds305Is there an approved method for getting old graphics deleted?01:14
ds305Sorry for the lag.01:14
ds305Normal users don't have access to the delete function.01:15
nhandlerRocket2DMn: Since I'll be eating dinner, I just wanted to let you know that I will be participating in the SOD, mainly with the system documentation01:15
Rocket2DMnThat is correct ds, you need to talk to somebody on this team - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-wiki-admins01:15
ds305TY01:15
Rocket2DMnthanks nhandler01:15
Rocket2DMnAny other questions?01:16
Rocket2DMnThe docteam did some sessions during Ubuntu's OpenWeek last week, check out Tuesday's events if you want to see the topics and logs - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek01:16
Rocket2DMnIf there are no other questions, we are pretty much done01:17
ds305You have 42 minutes remaining....01:18
Rocket2DMnYou can feel free to contact me at any time that you have questions.  You can also email the docteam mailing list, which I mentioned earlier.01:18
Rocket2DMnds305, i said i was keeping it short :)01:18
ds305;-)01:18
Rocket2DMnlast call for questions? Going once...01:19
Rocket2DMntwice.........01:19
Rocket2DMn.......... gone!01:19
Rocket2DMnThat is all, meeting over, yay!01:19
ds305Thanks Rocket.01:19
TuxPurplethanks Rocket2DMn :)01:20
Rocket2DMnno proble, I'm excited for this summer01:20
Rocket2DMnthanks for participating :)01:20
duanedes1gnRocket2DMn: I am working on the Best of Ubntu Community Forum Tutorials.  Someone mentioned there might be interest in having some of these on the wiki.01:22
duanedes1gnWhat do you think?01:23
Rocket2DMnhmmm01:23
Rocket2DMnthose would be best on wiki.ubuntu.com for now i think01:23
Rocket2DMnduanedes1gn, do you have a list of guides you are planning to work with?01:24
duanedes1gnI have been keeping a list of how tos from the forums01:25
duanedes1gnas I get to them I decide"on the fly" if they should be included01:25
Rocket2DMnyou should contact the original authors to get their permissions to use them.  I don't recall the forum's license, I think it shoud be OK if you dont, but it is nice if you do01:26
* cprofitt nods01:26
duanedes1gnI did write a letter and have been sending it01:26
Rocket2DMnare you planning on converting them to wiki format, or just have a main page that lists links?01:26
duanedes1gnits in DocBook01:26
Rocket2DMnah right, in docbook01:26
duanedes1gnhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/boucft/team/gettingpermission01:27
duanedes1gnthats the letter I have been using01:28
Rocket2DMncool01:29
Rocket2DMnhave you gotten responses?01:29
duanedes1gnSo far just bodhi and I think cprofitt01:29
Rocket2DMnbtw, you really should have most of that stuff on the team wiki01:30
Rocket2DMnwe can deal with that later though01:30
duanedes1gnahh. I am working on the project and enjoying it. I just wanted to get it out there that the project is being picked up again01:31
duanedes1gnLet me know how it could be usefukk01:31
duanedes1gnusefull to the community:)01:31
duanedes1gnother than as a package for Yelp. If there is another use for it.01:32
Rocket2DMnhm, im not terribly familiar with docbook, but i'm learning01:32
Rocket2DMnif youve been working with it, you probably know more than i do now01:33
duanedes1gnits....neat01:33
duanedes1gnI read moin moin will output to DocBook01:33
duanedes1gnhttp://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/01:34
Rocket2DMnyeah, not sure how good of a job it does, i think there has been discussion on the mailing list about it01:34
Rocket2DMnhave you been following, or was it you writing it?01:34
duanedes1gnXML Mind is a good WYSIWYG program for DocBook XML01:34
duanedes1gnI think that is where I saw it:)01:35
jimboe1337why is there wiki.ubuntu.com and also help.ubuntu.com????03:05
nhandlerjimboe1337: help.ubuntu.com is the official documentation. That comes from the system documentation. wiki.ubuntu.com is used mainly for teams and personal wiki pages03:32
jimboe1337nhandler: yeah but what about help.ubuntu.com/community? does that refer to the wiki?03:33
jimboe1337wait no it doesn't.03:33
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tig420hello i was wondering if someone could tell me why ubuntu freezes up on me on the install15:24

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