[00:00] Shane_Fagan: Looks good, thanks I've committed it. [00:00] OK, gotta run - see you all soon [01:04] OK guys, BT Wiki Focus Group meeting time, being held here, since we are really part of the doc team [01:04] Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki [01:04] I'm gonna keep this really short [01:05] Now that Jaunty has been released and schedules are starting to open up, we will start the Summer of Documentation [01:05] Last year we focused specifically on the wiki, but this year we will expand into all documentaiton, including system docs [01:05] you can see last year's notes here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki/SoD2008 [01:06] For the wiki, we will focus on getting docs updated for Jaunty [01:06] we will also work on implementing and using the Tag system [01:06] also see here for the doc team's list of tasks - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki/Tasks [01:07] The doc team recently reorganized their structure, so the open team is now here - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-contributors [01:07] we dont use DocuMENTORS anymore [01:07] that team there is for anybody contributing to documentation, so if you're not on it, you should join it [01:08] any questions so far? [01:08] nothing? [01:08] has everybody here used the wiki? [01:09] I feel like I'm talking to myself [01:09] We're listening. [01:10] Ok, anybody who currently isn't should join the doc-team mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc [01:10] lagging [01:10] Even just listening in on it will give you a good idea about what is going on the with the doc team, this is esp. useful to those interested in system docs [01:10] btw, the docteam homepage is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam [01:11] it is being restructured a little bit right now, but it is mostly complete [01:11] Does anybody have any questions about using the wiki? or how exactly to get involved with the docs? [01:11] I have a procedural question. [01:12] go for it ds305 [01:12] I had to upload about 10 graphics for updating a wiki. Each I assume generated a message to somebody. [01:12] Is there a way to upload multiples? [01:12] afaik, you need to upload them one at a time. If uploading attachments mails anybody, it is really limited [01:12] I wouldn't worry about it [01:12] * ds305 Will not worry. [01:13] However, if you are updating a wiki page, please use the PREVIEW button, not SUBMIT until you are finished with your changes. that is good wiki etiquitte [01:13] Please, ask any questions that you have, now is the best time [01:14] Ok... [01:14] Is there an approved method for getting old graphics deleted? [01:14] Sorry for the lag. [01:15] Normal users don't have access to the delete function. [01:15] Rocket2DMn: Since I'll be eating dinner, I just wanted to let you know that I will be participating in the SOD, mainly with the system documentation [01:15] That is correct ds, you need to talk to somebody on this team - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-wiki-admins [01:15] TY [01:15] thanks nhandler [01:16] Any other questions? [01:16] The docteam did some sessions during Ubuntu's OpenWeek last week, check out Tuesday's events if you want to see the topics and logs - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [01:17] If there are no other questions, we are pretty much done [01:18] You have 42 minutes remaining.... [01:18] You can feel free to contact me at any time that you have questions. You can also email the docteam mailing list, which I mentioned earlier. [01:18] ds305, i said i was keeping it short :) [01:18] ;-) [01:19] last call for questions? Going once... [01:19] twice......... [01:19] .......... gone! [01:19] That is all, meeting over, yay! [01:19] Thanks Rocket. [01:20] thanks Rocket2DMn :) [01:20] no proble, I'm excited for this summer [01:20] thanks for participating :) [01:22] Rocket2DMn: I am working on the Best of Ubntu Community Forum Tutorials. Someone mentioned there might be interest in having some of these on the wiki. [01:23] What do you think? [01:23] hmmm [01:23] those would be best on wiki.ubuntu.com for now i think [01:24] duanedes1gn, do you have a list of guides you are planning to work with? [01:25] I have been keeping a list of how tos from the forums [01:25] as I get to them I decide"on the fly" if they should be included [01:26] you should contact the original authors to get their permissions to use them. I don't recall the forum's license, I think it shoud be OK if you dont, but it is nice if you do [01:26] * cprofitt nods [01:26] I did write a letter and have been sending it [01:26] are you planning on converting them to wiki format, or just have a main page that lists links? [01:26] its in DocBook [01:26] ah right, in docbook [01:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/boucft/team/gettingpermission [01:28] thats the letter I have been using [01:29] cool [01:29] have you gotten responses? [01:29] So far just bodhi and I think cprofitt [01:30] btw, you really should have most of that stuff on the team wiki [01:30] we can deal with that later though [01:31] ahh. I am working on the project and enjoying it. I just wanted to get it out there that the project is being picked up again [01:31] Let me know how it could be usefukk [01:31] usefull to the community:) [01:32] other than as a package for Yelp. If there is another use for it. [01:32] hm, im not terribly familiar with docbook, but i'm learning [01:33] if youve been working with it, you probably know more than i do now [01:33] its....neat [01:33] I read moin moin will output to DocBook [01:34] http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/ [01:34] yeah, not sure how good of a job it does, i think there has been discussion on the mailing list about it [01:34] have you been following, or was it you writing it? [01:34] XML Mind is a good WYSIWYG program for DocBook XML [01:35] I think that is where I saw it:) [03:05] why is there wiki.ubuntu.com and also help.ubuntu.com???? [03:32] jimboe1337: help.ubuntu.com is the official documentation. That comes from the system documentation. wiki.ubuntu.com is used mainly for teams and personal wiki pages [03:33] nhandler: yeah but what about help.ubuntu.com/community? does that refer to the wiki? [03:33] wait no it doesn't. === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [15:24] hello i was wondering if someone could tell me why ubuntu freezes up on me on the install