[00:00] <DougieRichardson> Shane_Fagan: Looks good, thanks I've committed it.
[00:00] <DougieRichardson> OK, gotta run - see you all soon
[01:04] <Rocket2DMn> OK guys, BT Wiki Focus Group meeting time, being held here, since we are really part of the doc team
[01:04] <Rocket2DMn> Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki
[01:04] <Rocket2DMn> I'm gonna keep this really short
[01:05] <Rocket2DMn> Now that Jaunty has been released and schedules are starting to open up, we will start the Summer of Documentation
[01:05] <Rocket2DMn> Last year we focused specifically on the wiki, but this year we will expand into all documentaiton, including system docs
[01:05] <Rocket2DMn> you can see last year's notes here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Wiki/SoD2008
[01:06] <Rocket2DMn> For the wiki, we will focus on getting docs updated for Jaunty
[01:06] <Rocket2DMn> we will also work on implementing and using the Tag system
[01:06] <Rocket2DMn> also see here for the doc team's list of tasks - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki/Tasks
[01:07] <Rocket2DMn> The doc team recently reorganized their structure, so the open team is now here - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-contributors
[01:07] <Rocket2DMn> we dont use DocuMENTORS anymore
[01:07] <Rocket2DMn> that team there is for anybody contributing to documentation, so if you're not on it, you should join it
[01:08] <Rocket2DMn> any questions so far?
[01:08] <Rocket2DMn> nothing?
[01:08] <Rocket2DMn> has everybody here used the wiki?
[01:09] <Rocket2DMn> I feel like I'm talking to myself
[01:09] <ds305> We're listening.
[01:10] <Rocket2DMn> Ok, anybody who currently isn't should join the doc-team mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
[01:10] <TuxPurple> lagging
[01:10] <Rocket2DMn> Even just listening in on it will give you a good idea about what is going on the with the doc team, this is esp. useful to those interested in system docs
[01:10] <Rocket2DMn> btw, the docteam homepage is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam
[01:11] <Rocket2DMn> it is being restructured a little bit right now, but it is mostly complete
[01:11] <Rocket2DMn> Does anybody have any questions about using the wiki? or how exactly to get involved with the docs?
[01:11] <ds305> I have a procedural question.
[01:12] <Rocket2DMn> go for it ds305
[01:12] <ds305> I had to upload about 10 graphics for updating a wiki. Each I assume generated a message to somebody.
[01:12] <ds305> Is there a way to upload multiples?
[01:12] <Rocket2DMn> afaik, you need to upload them one at a time.  If uploading attachments mails anybody, it is really limited
[01:12] <Rocket2DMn> I wouldn't worry about it
[01:12]  * ds305 Will not worry.
[01:13] <Rocket2DMn> However, if you are updating a wiki page, please use the PREVIEW button, not SUBMIT until you are finished with your changes.  that is good wiki etiquitte
[01:13] <Rocket2DMn> Please, ask any questions that you have, now is the best time
[01:14] <Rocket2DMn> Ok...
[01:14] <ds305> Is there an approved method for getting old graphics deleted?
[01:14] <ds305> Sorry for the lag.
[01:15] <ds305> Normal users don't have access to the delete function.
[01:15] <nhandler> Rocket2DMn: Since I'll be eating dinner, I just wanted to let you know that I will be participating in the SOD, mainly with the system documentation
[01:15] <Rocket2DMn> That is correct ds, you need to talk to somebody on this team - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc-wiki-admins
[01:15] <ds305> TY
[01:15] <Rocket2DMn> thanks nhandler
[01:16] <Rocket2DMn> Any other questions?
[01:16] <Rocket2DMn> The docteam did some sessions during Ubuntu's OpenWeek last week, check out Tuesday's events if you want to see the topics and logs - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[01:17] <Rocket2DMn> If there are no other questions, we are pretty much done
[01:18] <ds305> You have 42 minutes remaining....
[01:18] <Rocket2DMn> You can feel free to contact me at any time that you have questions.  You can also email the docteam mailing list, which I mentioned earlier.
[01:18] <Rocket2DMn> ds305, i said i was keeping it short :)
[01:18] <ds305> ;-)
[01:19] <Rocket2DMn> last call for questions? Going once...
[01:19] <Rocket2DMn> twice.........
[01:19] <Rocket2DMn> .......... gone!
[01:19] <Rocket2DMn> That is all, meeting over, yay!
[01:19] <ds305> Thanks Rocket.
[01:20] <TuxPurple> thanks Rocket2DMn :)
[01:20] <Rocket2DMn> no proble, I'm excited for this summer
[01:20] <Rocket2DMn> thanks for participating :)
[01:22] <duanedes1gn> Rocket2DMn: I am working on the Best of Ubntu Community Forum Tutorials.  Someone mentioned there might be interest in having some of these on the wiki.
[01:23] <duanedes1gn> What do you think?
[01:23] <Rocket2DMn> hmmm
[01:23] <Rocket2DMn> those would be best on wiki.ubuntu.com for now i think
[01:24] <Rocket2DMn> duanedes1gn, do you have a list of guides you are planning to work with?
[01:25] <duanedes1gn> I have been keeping a list of how tos from the forums
[01:25] <duanedes1gn> as I get to them I decide"on the fly" if they should be included
[01:26] <Rocket2DMn> you should contact the original authors to get their permissions to use them.  I don't recall the forum's license, I think it shoud be OK if you dont, but it is nice if you do
[01:26]  * cprofitt nods
[01:26] <duanedes1gn> I did write a letter and have been sending it
[01:26] <Rocket2DMn> are you planning on converting them to wiki format, or just have a main page that lists links?
[01:26] <duanedes1gn> its in DocBook
[01:26] <Rocket2DMn> ah right, in docbook
[01:27] <duanedes1gn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/boucft/team/gettingpermission
[01:28] <duanedes1gn> thats the letter I have been using
[01:29] <Rocket2DMn> cool
[01:29] <Rocket2DMn> have you gotten responses?
[01:29] <duanedes1gn> So far just bodhi and I think cprofitt
[01:30] <Rocket2DMn> btw, you really should have most of that stuff on the team wiki
[01:30] <Rocket2DMn> we can deal with that later though
[01:31] <duanedes1gn> ahh. I am working on the project and enjoying it. I just wanted to get it out there that the project is being picked up again
[01:31] <duanedes1gn> Let me know how it could be usefukk
[01:31] <duanedes1gn> usefull to the community:)
[01:32] <duanedes1gn> other than as a package for Yelp. If there is another use for it.
[01:32] <Rocket2DMn> hm, im not terribly familiar with docbook, but i'm learning
[01:33] <Rocket2DMn> if youve been working with it, you probably know more than i do now
[01:33] <duanedes1gn> its....neat
[01:33] <duanedes1gn> I read moin moin will output to DocBook
[01:34] <duanedes1gn> http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/
[01:34] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, not sure how good of a job it does, i think there has been discussion on the mailing list about it
[01:34] <Rocket2DMn> have you been following, or was it you writing it?
[01:34] <duanedes1gn> XML Mind is a good WYSIWYG program for DocBook XML
[01:35] <duanedes1gn> I think that is where I saw it:)
[03:05] <jimboe1337> why is there wiki.ubuntu.com and also help.ubuntu.com????
[03:32] <nhandler> jimboe1337: help.ubuntu.com is the official documentation. That comes from the system documentation. wiki.ubuntu.com is used mainly for teams and personal wiki pages
[03:33] <jimboe1337> nhandler: yeah but what about help.ubuntu.com/community? does that refer to the wiki?
[03:33] <jimboe1337> wait no it doesn't.
[15:24] <tig420> hello i was wondering if someone could tell me why ubuntu freezes up on me on the install