[00:19] uhm bot is sleeping [01:03] !ping [01:03] ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore [01:24] he won't be happy when he wakes up... [01:35] wahnfrieden keeps talking about farting in -ot, after being told not to [01:35] is also in some known trollpits. [01:35] no wait, the other current troll is in trollpits, he isn't [01:36] LjL: removed. [03:22] hi, why am I banned from #ubuntu? [03:26] bansearch linnoob [03:26] er [03:26] linnoob: one moment, let me check our logs [03:26] oh thanks [03:27] linnoob: It looks like someone was being inappropriate under the nick h1tler on your ip. [03:28] what!? [03:28] And it doesn't look like this was the first time either. [03:29] that can't be me, i just released a few days ago [03:29] released? [03:29] dhcp released/renewed my ip [03:33] From what I can see here, that doesn't seem to be the case. [03:33] what do you see? [03:33] I see multiple infractions with someone with very similar information as you. [03:34] eh? [03:34] what information, IP? [03:34] my ip changed. i got a troll's ip now [03:34] linnoob: I'm not removing the ban. [03:34] I didn't ask you to [03:35] can we just chat about ubuntu here? since i can't get in chan [03:35] No. This is not a support channel. [03:35] I need help to upgrade [03:35] Then you will have to seek help elsewhere. [03:36] i thought ubuntu was about community. how come i can't be a part? this is so not fair [03:37] linnoob: because you cannot act normal in our channels. [03:37] what are you talking about? [03:37] that was someone else. I just got this IP. [03:39] one moment. [03:50] linnoob: Further examination of our logs has not revealed anything different. I am not removing this ban at this time so you will have to find support elsewhere. [04:07] @mark linnoob [04:07] The operation succeeded. [04:20] jussi01_: It's back down again, I see :/ [04:20] * genii-around sips [04:48] snuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Traveler (bot abuse, yet again, already been warned - ask Pici)) [04:50] @login [04:50] The operation succeeded. [04:50] a called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (a) [04:52] @btlogin [04:53] * genii-around hands Amaranth a coffee [05:24] * genii-around watches his battery die [07:47] LjL: sorry didn't mean to run out on you last night but my laptop battery died === evilGary is now known as Gary [12:28] * ikonia is getting a bit fed up with actonparsnip just telling people to compile stuff blindly and other poor advice [12:33] ikonia: usually a chat in PM with him helps [12:35] done it about 3 times in the last month [12:35] hence why I'm getting a bit frustrated [12:39] aye [12:40] hence why i'm doing it publicly now, since he'd only be rude if brought in here. [12:41] have either of you ever see him hand-hold, or does he just throw 'get dev files' kind of instructions? [12:43] just throws that out [12:43] I've spoke to him about 64bit flash, compiling etc etc [12:44] a few things, I even marked it in BT as it was getting more common [12:45] his heart is %101 in the right place and his commitment is too, he just bases everything he says of his own experiences of that moment in time, rather methodical [12:45] eg: it doesn't work for me - so it's broke [12:49] * elky waits [12:49] Jack_Sparrow, he needs to stop, i knew he'd not come here, that's why i did not bother. [12:50] Lets see if he does stop [12:50] Jack_Sparrow, he wont stop telling people to compile. [12:50] LEts hope he at least stops the current chat on it [12:50] there is nothing wrong with helping people to compile if they understand what they are doing [12:50] rather than first port of call [12:51] Jack_Sparrow, i initiated that conversation. he knows he's in the wrong. he's been told many times before. you just handed him a doorway out of the conversation. he's learned nothing. [12:51] agreed and IF you walk them through all of the steps [12:51] I'm personally fed up of seeing "configure && make && make install" being blindly suggested as solutions, ./configure has many options for starters blindly selecting options and hitting make then install no matter the results is bad and in my view - needs to stop [12:51] I agree [12:52] idiots like eagles who are testing using that blind method and submitting it to the developers are a prime example [12:52] it's a total waste of time and breaks systems [12:53] bbl need to reinstall windows, take care [13:02] fyi: I've added another ban for panarchy, he's using a company he's working for's web server to access freenode, hence how he got around the ban with mibbit, so I've added the ip - it's a static one [13:02] I can remove it if someone adds a ban in -proxy-users for the nick panarchy [13:03] if it's someone's web server, it shouldnt be attaching to IRC anyway. if we ban the nick in -p-u, then we cant see when he's trying. [13:03] fair enough [13:03] and yes, I agree, it looks like a web server in a cluster for these guys http://www.concorde.com.au/ [13:03] that makes sense, I'll leave the ip ban on #ubuntu [13:06] more aussies'? [13:06] yup [13:06] famous pain one this time [13:08] australia wide free call, eh? [13:09] elky: I'm sure he can get you a good deal ;) [13:09] elky: trade free calls for a ban removal ;) [13:10] ikonia, it's a travel company by the looks. i was more thinking a 'keep out, or i might accidentally dial a number' [13:10] to be honest, he may not be working for them - I am assuming he is because he said he's just started a job [13:11] http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/pen-test/2008-10/msg00010.html [13:11] meybe he's not working for them and better than we give him credit for [13:11] either way, i doubt they want their web servers on irc [13:11] no, I'm sure they don't either [13:12] although if they can't police their own employee's especially one as dumb as him, thats not my issue [13:12] Is it bad when you start recognizing random names on these mailing lists? [13:12] Pici: ? [13:12] Pici, yeah [13:12] ikonia: First reply to that thread is from nja-n [13:12] ahh [13:16] ok, so i'm a hardware dunce right.... what's the point in having 2 graphics cards. i take it that's different to dual-head, yeah? [13:16] more power [13:16] that's it.... [13:17] it has problems with xinerma and twin view though, both have up/down's [13:18] http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/configure.asp?c1=4&c2=25&id=1245 <-- you should get a 'build your own' page [13:18] i'm giving my current desktop to my folks, and looking for a decently tricked out/futureproofed rig. [13:19] elky: Ars techinca just released new guides for building systems. [13:19] with the options there, what's my best low-end option? :P [13:19] http://arstechnica.com/hardware/guides/2009/04/ars-technica-system-guide-april-2009-edition.ars [13:23] those kinds of guides tend to leave me more confused than before i read them [13:24] especially at 2230 [13:24] 13:16:49 <+ikonia> more power [13:24] and more screens [13:24] I have 2x nvidia cards and could either chain them together to get "more power" as you say, or not, and have 4 screens running off them [13:25] http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/info.asp?c1=98&c2=110&id=1775 <-- this can do dual head on it's own, yeah? [13:25] i dont speak GPUish [13:26] oh, and if you're wondering why those guys, scroll down to the OS section [13:26] I saw ;) [13:27] i wanted to get my lappy with them, but just was not impressed with their options for the 13" [13:35] "NVIDIA nView Multi-Display Technology" does mean dualhead though, yeah? [13:42] * Pici takes a deep breath [13:43] ? [13:44] uh oh... [13:44] Nothing in particular [13:44] I think Ive lost tuhina... [13:44] jussi01, nooooooooooooo! [13:45] it will be wandering around, find food [13:45] Im cleaning his cage... and he isnt there any more... [13:45] :O [13:45] ohno [13:46] i thought tuhina was a girl [13:46] I did too [13:46] nope... [13:47] he will be around.... just now the fun is to find him... [13:47] wear shoes. [13:49] elky: hahahah [14:05] whats tuhina? [14:07] Gary: http://jussi01.com/?p=9 [14:08] thats cute [14:08] :) [14:09] make sure to check before putting on boots :p [14:11] hehe [14:19] * genii sips, tentatively [14:20] Hiya jussi01 [14:22] hi [14:24] jussi01: Should I keep Konv handy today? ;) [14:27] genii: should be fine now... [14:27] Whew! [14:30] Found Him!! [14:54] Heh ""Particular reason you compiled apache from source...?" "I'm no newbie to linux... I saw a tar file so I download" [14:55] It was "no, I'm newbie I saw a tar file, so I download" [14:56] yes, a lot of the exchanges in #ubuntu could be transliterated as "any particular reason why you did something a newbie should never ever do?" "well, it's because i'm a newbie" [14:56] Pici: Aaaah, OK. I must need more coffee yet :) I thought he was trying to get argumentative [15:01] HAPPY BIRTHDAY, CHRISTEL [15:03] Again? Already? [15:03] thank you! :) [15:24] ooh... Happy Birthday christel!!! :) [15:24] ikonia: you around atm? [15:31] thank you jussi01 :) [15:34] :) [16:20] tsimpson: Can you add karmic to the packageinfo plugin and set that as the default release in #ubuntu+1? [16:21] !info ubuntu-desktop [16:21] ubuntu-desktop (source: ubuntu-meta): The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.140 (jaunty), package size 28 kB, installed size 56 kB [16:21] ikonia: ubuntu-desktop (source: ubuntu-meta): The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.140 (jaunty), package size 28 kB, installed size 56 kB [16:21] !info diveintopython [16:21] diveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB [16:21] ikonia: diveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB [16:21] !info test test [16:21] Pici: test is not a valid distribution ['hardy', 'intrepid', 'jaunty'] [16:21] 'test' is not a valid distribution ['dapper', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid', 'intrepid-backports', 'jaunty', 'jaunty-backports', 'kde4-ppa', 'kde4-ppa-intrepid', 'kubuntu-experimental', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'medibuntu', 'partner'] [16:21] !info has just borked on me in pm with the bot [16:21] ikonia: just is not a valid distribution ['hardy', 'intrepid', 'jaunty'] [16:21] 'just' is not a valid distribution ['dapper', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid', 'intrepid-backports', 'jaunty', 'jaunty-backports', 'kde4-ppa', 'kde4-ppa-intrepid', 'kubuntu-experimental', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'medibuntu', 'partner'] [16:22] thanks [16:23] ph_softnet is "no I'm not really trolling, honest" [16:25] gag is what I feel likedoing [16:25] :) [16:34] ppa is the worst idea ever [16:36] Its not, but people don't understand that the packages published may not be the best [16:36] making it as easy as it is and as well published as it is - is the worst idea ever [16:36] the ppa concept is fine [16:37] So it should be difficult to use? [16:37] no, it should just create less pain for me in supporting users [16:37] I'm being facisious, I actually like it [16:37] there shpould be a qulaification for signed ppas... [16:39] We should make the ppa owner support their packages..... [16:39] * genii runs! [16:42] i'd like to see an "Official PPA" tag. i use the Deluge and GMPC/MPD PPAs, and in both cases the PPAs are maintained by the project's development leads. they work splendidly. but others ... [16:42] mneptok: That would be nice [16:43] making creating packages simple [16:43] what a deplorable idea [16:43] The problem is that some users think that all PPA packages are certified reliable [16:43] * mneptok sticks a big, pink bow on LjL's head [16:44] now you're apt-ready, behbeh! [16:48] If package manager gave an option to enable "Official PPAs" or so that might be interesting. [16:49] meh... backports is in effect an official ppa... [16:52] If a PPA owner's LP homepage had some mechanism to reach them like "Contact us" or so, could just refer users which are using that particular package there [16:53] jussi01: but backports by definition only contain stuff that is in +1 [16:54] genii: dont they? [16:56] jussi01: Not really. You could get on a mailing list or so if they have one. [16:56] No real trouble ticket system or so [16:57] jussi01: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4 for instance you have to be a team member to be on the list. There's no way off thyat page for instance for average Joe to reach anyone with questions about their packages [16:57] genii: I have a ppa, and if you go to my LP page there is a contact this user link... [16:57] * ikonia is out for the day, I've had my fill of eagles dishing out CRAP to users because his system is "highlighy modified" [16:57] genii: Contact details [16:57] mail kubuntu-members-kde4@lists.launchpad.net email Contact this team [16:58] jussi01: That only appears if you HAVE aLP account [16:58] genii: still... anyone can get an account... [16:59] jussi01: This is true. But if I'm a casual user who has some Q about a package should I have to bother getting an LP account to enquire? [17:01] genii: you need a lp account to to report a bug, so why not for questions... a LP account should be something for every ubuntu user - especially those using ppa packages... === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [17:06] jussi01: You make a compelling argument :) [17:08] genii: Score!! :P [17:09] This sort of has me wondering how many bug reports are actually on PPA packages actually [17:09] Sorry of the two "actually" [17:11] Weird, considering the talk here right now (from #k) " reagleBRKLN: just add the ppa repo and do an aptitude update and aptitude full-uǵrade" [17:14] at least he made him do an uǵrade and not an actual upgrade! [17:14] Hehe [17:14] * LjL wonders just which language uses accented g [17:15] wow [17:15] i knew about c, ć and ç [17:15] i didn't know about ḉ [17:15] specifically i'd never have though i could compose it from my keyboard [17:17] * genii ponders "PPA Ubuntu.... Pubuntu for short" [17:19] I figured everyone would start beating me there with baseball bats... or something [17:21] karmic added, gutsy removed [17:22] tsimpson: super [17:41] wow [17:45] so where *are* services [17:45] * genii shakes his fist at Kornbluth [17:46] was it kornbluth? i'm not sure about that [17:47] no kornbluth is linked alright... === jrib is now known as Guest48422 === Pici is now known as Guest9545 [17:48] sigh [17:48] LjL-Grisham: What I saw from here was a crapload of /quits all from that box. [17:48] it was card... [17:49] genii: *from* that box? [17:49] /whois genii [17:50] split or just-rejoined servers appear to be einstein, heinlein, hubbard, niven, zahn, zelazny [17:50] My regular nick just started ghosting, it's hostmask or so would resolve to jussi's machine [17:50] and to the best of my knowledge, card, although i don't see that listed [17:51] Test [17:51] OK it's back on === Guest9545 is now known as Pici [18:01] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [18:01] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [18:01] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [18:09] christel, aware that niven is still connected (with some 600 users)? [18:10] i mean connected as in "up" not connected to the rest of the network [18:19] Are my channels messed up? [18:20] in what sense? [18:20] LjL: Thanks, I was just going to ask if I was in #gentoo instead of #ubuntu [18:24] That was random. [18:25] mneptok: no I was listening, just read logs then, I just went AFK for a day :) [18:25] phix: do not go AFK while /join'ed to this channel [18:25] mneptok: oh it is just hte person who banned me said he would remove the ban in 2 days, that kind of made me think it was dependant on time [18:25] mneptok: ok [18:26] looking at your behavior and total lack of contrition, i would not remove the ban. but that's me. [18:26] indeed [18:27] so you agree that the ban should not be removed? [18:27] hmmm, looks like the ban is still in place [18:27] no I agree with your "but that's me" statement [18:28] do you understand why you were banned? [18:28] if so, care to share your opinions on that? [18:29] The ban should be removed, yes I understand, I believe I was talking off topic in the man channel but then when talking off topic in the off tooic channel I was also banned for being off topic, that confused me a bit, but I understand now [18:31] I am not AFK BTW [18:31] one moment, please [18:31] ok :) [18:32] I will continue watching Voyager for a bit then [18:35] @login [18:35] The operation succeeded. [18:37] 2009-05-03T14:27:05 yes lets not tell kids about the f?g word, I mean they might turn into one, we dont want that ay, we being a #ubuntu-offtopic channel especially, we dont want to encourage the kids to be gay [18:37] 2009-05-03T14:27:09 :) [18:37] that's why you were banned from -offtopic [18:38] Augh. [18:38] In #ubuntu-bots, arvind_khadri said: !unforget ? tsimpson [18:38] you were also banned in 2008 for being an idiot - in case that isn't on record, since servers were split at the time [18:38] not for being offtopic, as you believe, but for blatantly ignoring the Ubuntu Code Of Conduct [18:39] if your masculinity is threatened by homosexuality, i suggest you work out such issues in private. it is most unwelcome in Ubuntu IRC namespace. [18:39] mneptok: ;0 [18:40] :) even [18:40] 2009-05-03T14:30:15 LjL: I have a problem with ubuntu, every time I type in irssi irc.freenode.org then type in /j #ubuntu I seem to always find a bunch of f*cktards in there, what is the solution to that? [18:40] and that's why you were banned from #ubuntu [18:41] i can ssure you, you are not half as clever and witty as you think you are. such comments do not come off as erudite and urbane, but rather puerile and somewhat sad. [18:41] they will also get you banned. quickly and definitively. [18:41] yep [18:42] so there it is. [18:42] it got the message across [18:42] and what message would that be? [18:43] "i won't be unbanned"? [18:44] LjL: no [18:45] that I need to keep my opionions to my self [18:46] even in an offtopic channel affiliated with ubuntu [18:47] yes you see [18:47] if those opinions go against the code of conduct or are offensive, yes you do [18:47] if *i* didn't keep much of my opinion about you to myself [18:47] that would be most inconvenient [18:47] nickspoon: no my masculinty wasn't being threatened, I was actually attempting to be sycastic although that doesnt really work in text [18:48] mneptok: even, stopif nock complete [18:48] and keyboard :) [18:51] LjL: oh and I was holding my self back too by the way :) [18:51] any way, it is late / early here, going to et some sleep, I will try to /j #ubuntu later [18:51] have a nice day / night [18:52] LjL: <3 === Dave2 is now known as Guest59324 [18:55] please no BRB [18:57] Maybe he didn't understand " phix: do not go AFK while /join'ed to this channel" === Guest59324 is now known as Dave2 [19:21] eseven73 called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest68150) [19:22] can we see if the silly people are still spamming if we go +o in #u? [19:22] why aren't they getting banned already? [19:22] yes you can, but you don't need to - they are [19:22] stopped now. [19:23] they left [19:23] yeah, that's why they stopped. [19:24] besides, am i the only one with the floodbots (or at least their flood message) on highlight...? [19:24] Yes [19:25] LjL: the Guest* person was auto-banned by the floodbots [19:25] then the day there's server desync and they ban a dozen innocent people, nobody will notice? [19:25] mneptok: no they were not [19:25] they were only temporarily muted [19:25] which is how they managed to flood twice [19:26] (well, that and the fact that "Guest" is an enforced nickname) [19:26] 12:21 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+zb %Guest69925!*@*] by FloodBot3 [19:26] mneptok, i know what the floodbots do, and saw that, as i have them on highlight. [19:26] but you know, the floodbots were never meant to be an automatic banning machine for people flooding maliciously... they only mute until the person "appears" to have stopped flooding [19:27] it's enough for someone to stop flooding for 10 seconds for the bots to unmute them. [19:28] and now i said it in a logged channel, they probably will :) [19:28] well, they are banned now [19:31] o/ [19:39] evening [19:39] whoi is wicope ? [19:39] I dont know [19:39] thats what I was just wondering [19:41] they joined 1:20 ago and said nothing [19:43] yeah [19:45] Thats usario [19:46] or however its spelt [19:47] Er.. or at least I thought it was Ursinha [19:47] I could be wrong. [19:50] @Bansearch wicope [19:50] @bansearch wicope [19:50] @login [19:50] The operation succeeded. [19:51] @bansearch wicope [19:51] No matches found for wicope!n=usuario@87.235.179.14 in any channel [19:52] * Pici shrugs [20:17] Pici: I'll slap supernix around some for you if you like [20:17] ;) [21:02] chamillionaire2 keeps on the bot abuse in #ubuntu [21:02] ok [21:03] [22:02:56] Chamillionaire2, I suggest you use /msg ubottu to play/learn how to use the bot. LjL is a nice person but will kick your arse soon [21:03] * LjL blinks... [21:04] * popey hugs the "arse" way of spelling.. well.. "arse" [21:26] :O [21:49] Ljl: You will be pleased to know that I have the floodbots setting +zb on hilight now [21:50] * jussi01 waves to ikonia [21:51] fine, don't wave to me then [21:55] * jussi01 hugs Seeker` [22:00] :D [22:01] "work is over" alarm.... /away til at home. [22:02] have a good journey [22:03] damn sore throat... [22:04] :( [22:10] progamming language support doesn't really belong in #u does it [22:38] * genii gargles down a coffee [22:39] Seeker`: no - compiler/interpreter support might [22:40] then again if someone wants to answer a quick programming question, meh [22:44] Better than sending them to #bash to fend for themselves [22:44] bash is a bit of a corner case, since simple command lines clearly do belong in #ubuntu [22:44] why does array[2] not return the second eleent in the array [22:44] etc. etc. [22:45] at any rate, if someone's not being particularly annoying, there's always the option of not caring about whether or not they're being slightly offtopic [22:45] basically beginners guide to perl stuff [22:45] in that case, yes, send them to #perl [22:47] genii: watch #k - that eagle lad is not really helping a lot... ill informed methinks.... [22:47] * jussi01 goes to bed [22:47] jussi01: Will do, thanks. [22:54] Seeker`: array[2] is the 3rd element, 0-indexed [22:56] I know that [22:57] the guy in #u didn't :P [22:58] those people need to think more like a computer *beep* [23:00] * genii feeds tsimpson more punch cards [23:00] ha [23:00] 1001001101101110100011011010110101110101000001101101111111111010101010100101111010101 [23:01] Hehe... that reminds me of the Futurama robot prayer... lots of zeros and ones ended by a "two" [23:01] hedonism bot [23:02] idiot in -ot now [23:02] @bansearch project-emerald [23:02] Match: *!*@pool-72-88-118-5.bflony.east.verizon.net by elky in #ubuntu on May 03 2009 14:05:01 (ID: 13092) [23:02] someone with +o in offtopc read [23:03] ready [23:03] o/ [23:03] 001010100110001001100101011001010111000000101010 [23:05] +b in offtopic please for part message [23:06] 23:05 -!- PROject-Emerald [n=mike@pool-72-88-118-5.bflony.east.verizon.net] has [23:06] yeah, I saw [23:06] quit ["masturbating" [23:06] shall I forward him here? [23:06] for the log, incase no-one with -ot has ops [23:06] ikonia: i shall try, good advice [23:06] nah, just ban him [23:06] LjL: cheeky [23:07] ahhh Seeker` well done didn't know you had ot - or ubuntu [23:07] I'm clearly out of the loop [23:07] haven't been one for long [23:07] hmm [23:07] /mode #ubuntu-offtopic +b *!*@pool-72-88-118-5.bflony.east.verison.net ? [23:08] nah, do the nick in my opiino [23:08] he's account is registered so he obviously likes to use it [23:08] opinion evne [23:08] Seeker`: I think yer hats on in -ot [23:08] genii: he's doing my bidding [23:08] genii: yes, because i'm about to set a ban [23:09] /mode #ubuntu-offtopic +b project-Emerald!*@*.* ? [23:09] @* [23:09] I assume *.* would also work [23:09] * ikonia looks to ljl approvingly [23:09] unless they get a cloak [23:10] tsimpson: ahh so * = better [23:10] /mode #ubuntu-offtopic +b project-Emerald!*@* [23:10] that then [23:10]