| bryce | ok good to know | 00:01 |
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| bryce | I've filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/372480 to track the vbetool/kms issue in ubuntu | 00:02 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 372480 in acpi-support "vbetool should not be called on -intel when KMS is in use" [High,New] | 00:02 |
| bryce | "Known Issues" section added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting with this info | 00:05 |
| bryce | s/info/bug report/ | 00:05 |
| jbarnes | cool | 00:06 |
| Sarvatt | well it sounded like debian's acpi-support uses vbetool on bootup instead of just those calls in suspend/resume like ubuntu's, i dont have any problems with KMS here but that guy's i915 is using MSI so i'm guessing its 965+ and i'm on 945GME | 00:08 |
| bryce | jbarnes: according to slangasek - | 01:10 |
| bryce | In karmic, acpi-support no longer ships its own suspend/resume handling | 01:10 |
| bryce | at all, so this must already be fixed. | 01:10 |
| jbarnes | cool | 01:19 |
| mnemo | jbarnes: do you know if it's -psb that's being submitted by intel for xorg mainline? | 01:31 |
| jbarnes | mnemo: I'm not sure... I've asked the submitter to clarify | 01:31 |
| bryce | http://www.h-online.com/open/Ubuntu-9-04-and-Intel-graphics--/features/113196 | 03:06 |
| LLStarks | bryce. uxa has finally stabilized. | 03:16 |
| LLStarks | 48+ hours on compiz without a crash. | 03:17 |
| Sarvatt | yeah it stabalized for me somewhere between the 2.7.99.1 snapshot and e5e0fb846bda3e1757b89e50d5244d28457b9fe3 Call down to lower CloseScreen before shutting down DRM allocator | 03:30 |
| Sarvatt | not many commits between those | 03:31 |
| bryce | good to hear, although since 2.7.99.x lacks EXA, I'm not ready to upgrade us to that quite yet | 03:41 |
| bryce | bbl | 03:42 |
| Sarvatt | i saw a few of the commits between those two lined up for 2.7.1 that might be the ones that fixed it | 04:11 |
| Sarvatt | doh karmic update just now totally screwed up my fonts :D | 04:13 |
| LLStarks | sarv | 04:19 |
| Duke` | mesa-common-dev_7.5.0~git20090505 conflicts with libglew1.5-dev about the file "/usr/include/GL/glxew.h" | 06:15 |
| Sarvatt | wish i would have known jaunty changed mkdir /var/run/network to a udev rule before i restarted my vps without udev, that was an adventure | 10:24 |
| Sarvatt | oops, wrong channel, sorry | 10:24 |
| jbarnes | apw: ping | 16:58 |
| apw | hello | 16:58 |
| jbarnes | apw: hey mchbar patches? :) | 16:58 |
| apw | heh damn i remembered to send them out to our kernel list todaqy | 16:59 |
| apw | and forgot send them out to you | 16:59 |
| jbarnes | np... can you send them out to intel-gfx and cc bjorn so all the right bits get picked up? | 16:59 |
| jbarnes | with your tested-by, signed-off-by etc | 16:59 |
| apw | yeah will sort them out now | 17:00 |
| jbarnes | cool thanks | 17:00 |
| bryce | heya guys | 17:05 |
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| federico1 | tseliot: ping | 18:20 |
| tseliot | federico1: pong | 18:20 |
| federico1 | tseliot: hey | 18:20 |
| federico1 | tseliot: mclasen tells me you were looking for me? | 18:21 |
| tseliot | federico1: yes, but I misread his patch which I think is ok now | 18:21 |
| federico1 | ah, ok | 18:22 |
| tseliot | yes, nothing to worry about | 18:22 |
| federico1 | I screwed up when merging your patch for GetResourcesCurrent(), and missed how the sizes were updated | 18:23 |
| federico1 | ok, cool | 18:23 |
| federico1 | tseliot: by the way, I recall seeing a fix for when "Laptop" appears as "Laptop\n" (with an extra newline) --- do you know something about that? | 18:23 |
| tseliot | federico1: isn't that a string that we use when we find LVDS, etc. ? | 18:24 |
| federico1 | yeah | 18:26 |
| federico1 | gnome-display-properties shows "Laptop" in the little monitor boxes, and it's also what appears in the per-monitor labels | 18:27 |
| federico1 | and I *think* we have an extra newline sneaking in, because when it actually says "Laptop", the rectangles are taller than normal | 18:27 |
| * federico1 goes to RTFS | 18:27 | |
| tseliot | it could be. I've never noticed the problem | 18:28 |
| federico1 | ok | 18:29 |
| federico1 | oh,duh | 18:46 |
| federico1 | tseliot: return g_strdup_printf ("%s\n", vendor); | 18:47 |
| federico1 | no wonder :) | 18:47 |
| * jbarnes waits patiently for apw's patches to show up | 19:42 | |
| * apw is smaching git-send-email with hammers as we speak | 19:42 | |
| tseliot | federico1: hehe, there was a new line then ;) | 19:42 |
| apw | it is not playing along | 19:42 |
| jbarnes | ah yeah it can be a pain | 19:42 |
| jbarnes | but it's just two patches right? just use git format-patch and send them by hand :) | 19:42 |
| apw | jbarnes, right in the pipe. bloody thing | 19:49 |
| jbarnes | yay | 19:51 |
| jbarnes | thanks | 19:51 |
| tormod | michaellarabel: what is PTS live based on? | 21:06 |
| michaellarabel | tormod: PTS Linux Live is going to be based upon Ubuntu | 21:06 |
| tormod | is the development open? | 21:07 |
| michaellarabel | It's going to be developed openly, yes. Right now it's not too far along. | 21:07 |
| tormod | will it provide latest stuff from xorg on a regular basis? | 21:08 |
| tormod | I am bit curious because I have been thinking of making an xorg-edgers based live CD | 21:09 |
| michaellarabel | It will be updated quarterly in conjunction with PTS and yes, I plan to include all of the latest Xorg and kernel bits | 21:09 |
| tormod | nice. are you alone on this, or is there a team? | 21:10 |
| tormod | is Phoronix Media = you? | 21:11 |
| michaellarabel | On the LiveCD? There is me plus two or three others that have voiced interest and were going to start on different things, but so far I haven't seen any work from them. | 21:12 |
| michaellarabel | Involved with PTS in general is I plus Whuppermann plus about 12+ other random contributors and companies. Yes, I own Phoronix Media. | 21:12 |
| tormod | thanks for the info | 21:13 |
| michaellarabel | Yep, there is also #phoronix on FreeNode if you have more questions. | 21:13 |
| tormod | oh, I should have asked there then :) | 21:15 |
| bryce_ | (I found the answers interesting as well) | 21:16 |
| hallyn | is the issue with gnome-terminal not updating with compiz on (with nvidia drivers) well understood? | 21:23 |
| kirkland | bryce_: i directed hallyn here | 21:23 |
| kirkland | bryce_: any idea? | 21:23 |
| hallyn | is there any solution (even just in the pipeline) other than turning off compiz | 21:23 |
| bryce_ | hallyn: dunno, I don't really do much with the proprietary -nvidia drivers | 21:25 |
| bryce_ | hallyn: you could look in launchpad to see if others have encountered the same problem and engineered a workaround | 21:25 |
| kirkland | bryce_: anyone better i can point hallyn to? | 21:26 |
| kirkland | hallyn: http://people.ubuntu.com/~kirkland/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Aly2fmeg302s&q=nvidia+gnome-terminal&sa=Search | 21:26 |
| bryce_ | kirkland: tseliot generally does more with -nvidia, although I think he's not had a lot of time for bug work lately | 21:26 |
| hallyn | ok, i was hpoing it wasn't actually the nvidia drivers | 21:26 |
| hallyn | was hoping it was just gnome-terminal not defining some hook or something :) | 21:26 |
| hallyn | kirkland: ok, thanks, i'll look through those. meanwhile in the interest of getting work done compiz is finally off :( | 21:27 |
| * hallyn glances over at evilwm | 21:27 | |
| hallyn | maybe it's time to go back... | 21:27 |
| bryce_ | I'm not the gnome-terminal maintainer but I use it all the time on various open source drivers and have never seen or heard of that issue | 21:28 |
| hallyn | ok, thanks. then i'll consider it my fault for being an evil user of proprietary drivers | 21:28 |
| bryce_ | but -nvidia is sort of an X world unto itself (it reimplements half the X server inside itself) so who can say | 21:28 |
| bryce_ | hallyn: you could try -nouveau | 21:28 |
| hallyn | (but the free drivers make my laptop run waaaay hot so not acceptable) | 21:28 |
| hallyn | what is that? | 21:28 |
| bryce_ | that is the new open source solution for nvidia hardware | 21:28 |
| bryce_ | it's very new, but we're accepting bug reports against it now | 21:29 |
| bryce_ | new == "probably buggy" | 21:29 |
| hallyn | will look. thanks. | 21:29 |
| bryce_ | http://www2.bryceharrington.org:8080/X/symptoms_intel.html | 22:40 |
| jbarnes | bryce_: nice, don't like all those "freeze" and "crash" symptoms though | 22:43 |
| jbarnes | i.e. there are way too many of them :/ | 22:43 |
| bryce_ | oh if you don't like 'crash', take care not to look in xorg-server ;-) | 22:43 |
| bryce_ | (most crashes get auto-filed to xorg-server; we've got hundreds) | 22:43 |
| jbarnes | ouch | 22:44 |
| bryce_ | the good news is most of those have detailed full backtraces associated with them | 22:44 |
| michaellarabel | bryce_: Soon I will have new -intel results from xorg-edgers and latest karmic packages. | 22:45 |
| bryce_ | michaellarabel: thanks, that will give us some insights into if the stuff in xorg-edgers is going to improve or regress us | 22:45 |
| bryce_ | michaellarabel: btw, we also have -intel 2.7.x in the x-updates PPA, which is what I will probably be pulling in next (maybe tomorrow, maybe next week) | 22:46 |
| mnemo | bryce: i think we should at least split crashes into xorg crashes and app crashes... currently we have some rss-glx app crashes with this tag.. i.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/344604 | 22:46 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 344604 in fglrx-installer "biof crashed with SIGSEGV in exit()" [Medium,New] | 22:46 |
| bryce_ | mnemo: I know... but it's not easy to split them out | 22:53 |
| bryce_ | or I should say, it's difficult to come up with a way for the scripts to tell the difference | 22:54 |
| bryce_ | mnemo: I guess they could be cleaned up by hand (although be careful to also remove 'crash' from the subject, so some script doesn't re-add the 'crash' tag later) | 22:54 |
| mnemo | yea its not like we have a lot fo those anyway | 22:58 |
| mnemo | bryce_: btw.. did you hear about GPU lockup debugging for radeon is coming through the radeon rewrite branch | 22:59 |
| mnemo | thats pretty cool | 22:59 |
| mnemo | maybe we can integrate it with apport later for both intel and ati | 22:59 |
| bryce_ | hadn't heard that. very good to hear | 22:59 |
| mnemo | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-May/045486.html | 23:00 |
| mnemo | its on a branch still though --> http://jglisse.livejournal.com/1822.html | 23:00 |
| mnemo | so it might be long before we see it in ubuntu | 23:00 |
| bryce_ | kewl | 23:00 |
| Sarvatt | tormod's trying to get that running in the radeon crack ppa - https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/radeon | 23:04 |
| tormod | well that stuff sits in the kernel, so I am not sure. maybe through drm-snapshots | 23:05 |
| tormod | (the lockup debugging I mean) | 23:06 |
| michaellarabel | bryce_: 2D is running faster with the latest karmic and xorg-edgers, though OpenGL may have a problem. Waiting for the tests to finish to see what the logs say. | 23:10 |
| mnemo | michaellarabel: are you comparing to intrepid as well? | 23:12 |
| michaellarabel | mnemo: I may, once I see what these karmic results look like. | 23:12 |
| mnemo | once we get out of the woods with the UXA bugs and enable it by default in karmic, it would be very interesting to see results against intrepid | 23:13 |
| michaellarabel | bryce_ and tormod and anyone else interested in the latest: http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=profile&u=phoronix-27748-28806-30895 though yeah, several of the tests are failing with the latest karmic/xorg-edgers right now. Though surprisingly 2D did worse in some. | 23:16 |
| tormod | michaellarabel: it says "Mesa 7.4", did you not upgrade mesa? | 23:17 |
| michaellarabel | hmm I upgraded everything, but will check for some reason if it got left behind. | 23:18 |
| bryce_ | michaellarabel: interesting... I wonder how much of the improvement is due to the new driver, and how much to the kernel. I've been suspecting it is mostly the latter... | 23:18 |
| michaellarabel | tormod: Ah, you're right, for some reason Mesa got left behind. But upgrading that now. | 23:19 |
| bryce_ | michaellarabel: also, I assume both cases are with UXA enabled? | 23:19 |
| michaellarabel | defaults in both case, so EXA for 9.04. | 23:19 |
| bryce_ | oh wait, I see EXA | 23:19 |
| tormod | so 9.04 is the better on all test except the Rects Blended? | 23:21 |
| michaellarabel | tormod: Transformed Blit Bilinear did better on the latest | 23:22 |
| michaellarabel | albeit very small | 23:22 |
| michaellarabel | tormod: Yeah, Mesa is working now, though hitting another bug. | 23:42 |
| tormod | bug like in crasher? | 23:42 |
| michaellarabel | Once OpenArena is done running at the final screen, it now locks up. | 23:43 |
| michaellarabel | smokin-guns is at least running, will have those numbers soon | 23:56 |
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