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| dholbach | Packaging Training Session in 1m in #ubuntu-classroom | 06:59 |
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| lamalex | you should have one of these sessions during a time that's not unreasonable for the other side of the ocean | 07:00 |
| lamalex | id love to attend one of the packaging ones, but they're never at times I can attend | 07:00 |
| maxb | lamalex: They rotate around the day: | 07:02 |
| maxb | 0 6 12 and 18 UTC | 07:02 |
| lamalex | yet i seem to never be able to attend any of them :( | 07:03 |
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| maxb | Hmm, karmic seems to be ignoring my /etc/hdparm.conf | 07:20 |
| maxb | usplash broken on karmic for anyone else? | 08:26 |
| pwnguin | we should just carve these sessions up into a moodle session with video | 08:28 |
| pwnguin | alternatively, lesson | 08:29 |
| jamieleshaw | Hello are there screenshots of the new look yet? | 09:27 |
| ienorand | jamieleshaw: To put it blankly, don't expect a new look in Karmic, it may very well get postponed even further, and no, nothing has surfaced yet. | 09:28 |
| jamieleshaw | Postponed why? | 09:29 |
| jamieleshaw | Because of GNOME 3? | 09:30 |
| ienorand | Since Mark and his DX team hasn't gotten the butt out of the mailbox, basically. | 09:31 |
| jamieleshaw | What do you mean? | 09:32 |
| ienorand | jamieleshaw: http://www.lamalex.net/2009/05/chasing-the-white-whale-the-year-of-the-linux-desktop-and-new-ubuntu-theme/ | 09:33 |
| ienorand | it has taken a long, long time to pull together a design team i had hoped to have that team in place six months ago, but it’s still forming i think we will make good progress in the next cycle you can already see a few things that have borne fruit from that team notifications, time zone selector in installer, etc but it’s fragmentary i’m pretty darn confident | 09:34 |
| ienorand | confident we’ll have a new look for 10.04 but i think only pieces of that will emerge for 9.10 | 09:34 |
| ienorand | quote/unquote | 09:34 |
| macvr | hi can any one advice me on what to choose for this notebook config? ubuntu/kubuntu/UNR: Sony VAIO PCG-SRX87 Laptop * Processor: 850 MHz Mobile Intel Pentium III Processor * RAM: 256 MB * RAM Type: SDRAM * L2 Cache: 512 KB Hard Drive * Size: 20 GB * Graphics Card: Intel 815EM graphic * Graphics RAM: 11 MB | 09:35 |
| ienorand | jamieleshaw: quoting sabdfl... | 09:35 |
| macvr | oops... wrong room! | 09:36 |
| jamieleshaw | I see. | 09:36 |
| jamieleshaw | The screenshots of GNOME 3 look good. | 09:38 |
| ienorand | jamieleshaw: I think they look horrible, interface-wise, but that's just me :D | 09:39 |
| jamieleshaw | The Ubuntu netbook remix loog impressive. | 09:42 |
| peterz | apw: you spelled it wrong, its kinky koala ;-) | 12:58 |
| apw | peterz, :) now that would be funny | 13:00 |
| thewrath | lol peterz | 13:04 |
| vega | is jaunty upgradable to karmic atm? | 13:56 |
| rski | sure but not supported | 13:56 |
| rski | in the sense that you probably have to fix most bugs yourself or at least bugreport everything | 13:56 |
| vega | what, no support? it's almost alpha1 time.. | 13:56 |
| thewrath | vega: when is alpha1? | 14:01 |
| thewrath | i thought it was later on this month | 14:01 |
| thewrath | like at the end of it | 14:02 |
| compengi | thewrath, when it's ready ;) | 14:02 |
| vega | well yeah, something like that | 14:02 |
| thewrath | compengi: i figured as much i was speaking what is just posted on teh scheudle | 14:02 |
| compengi | thewrath, sometimes the schedules break | 14:02 |
| thewrath | right i understand but as of the last time i saw the schedule is what i was talking about | 14:03 |
| thewrath | compengi: what you running jaunty/ | 14:03 |
| compengi | no | 14:03 |
| thewrath | hardy? | 14:04 |
| thewrath | hey AndrewGee | 14:04 |
| Pici | Alpha 1 is scheduled for the 14th I think. | 14:07 |
| Pici | !schedule | 14:07 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Karmic Koala (9.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | 14:07 |
| vega | i just wanted to know if the basic infrastructure is in place so at least the upgrade is possible in theory | 14:10 |
| thewrath | ture | 14:13 |
| ikonia | vega: if you don't know the status of it, why would you want to upgrade ? | 14:16 |
| thewrath | i would wait to the later alphas or even the beata | 14:16 |
| vega | ikonia: test? report bugs? | 14:22 |
| thewrath | alpah 1 is next thursday | 14:25 |
| thewrath | and thent eh deve summit 25-39 | 14:25 |
| thewrath | *25-29 | 14:25 |
| ikonia | vega: report bugs on what ??? they haven't even decided what's in it | 14:38 |
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| Superdweeb | hey guys, what's the plan for eglibc? | 15:46 |
| ikonia | in what respect ? | 15:46 |
| Superdweeb | if anyone knows yet, I mean. | 15:47 |
| Superdweeb | I just heard about it. | 15:47 |
| ikonia | knows what ? | 15:47 |
| Superdweeb | I mean, debian is replacing glibc with eglibc, right? | 15:47 |
| ikonia | no | 15:47 |
| Superdweeb | it was on slashdot. | 15:47 |
| ikonia | eglibc is for embeded platforms | 15:47 |
| ikonia | I'd be surprised if it was totally replaced, but it could be | 15:48 |
| mphill | ikonia: not anymore | 15:48 |
| Superdweeb | http://blog.aurel32.net/?p=47 | 15:48 |
| ikonia | just reading the blog | 15:48 |
| mphill | ikonia: they are so fucking pissed at ulirch they are jumping ship | 15:48 |
| ikonia | calm down on the language | 15:48 |
| mphill | which is fine by me, good ridence | 15:48 |
| mphill | oops | 15:49 |
| Superdweeb | I'm happy. "Support for different shells (GLIBC only supports bash). Support for building with -Os. Configurable components (do we really need NIS or RPC support in debian-installer?)." = super cool stuff. | 15:49 |
| * mphill tones down | 15:49 | |
| ikonia | how does glibc support a shell ? | 15:49 |
| Superdweeb | I think rpc is one big security hole. | 15:49 |
| ikonia | ????? they are seperate components | 15:49 |
| Superdweeb | I think it means using shell syntax as program arguements. | 15:50 |
| Superdweeb | something deep down under the carpet. | 15:50 |
| Superdweeb | probably related to running sudo in scripts. | 15:50 |
| ikonia | just reading the redhat bug, nothing to do with sudo | 15:50 |
| ikonia | bug 3266 | 15:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 3266 in anewt "Anewt lacks Atom support" [Wishlist,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3266 | 15:50 |
| ikonia | no - not ubuntu bug | 15:50 |
| ikonia | I guess this will be on the table at uds | 15:51 |
| Superdweeb | I mean, sudo doesn't always work right with scripts, some guy wrote a script to ensure everything gets handled right, including userspace variables. | 15:51 |
| ikonia | http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3266 | 15:51 |
| ubottu | sourceware.org bug 3266 in libc "ldd doesn't work when /bin/sh is dash" [Normal,Resolved: wontfix] | 15:51 |
| ikonia | a good description of the issue | 15:51 |
| Superdweeb | This is an example of how it really interacts beneath the user level. I mean, tons of it is c and assembly : have you ever looked at the code source for dd? | 15:51 |
| mphill | they pushed the 2.6.30 kernel out before UDS, I think they are already started work on KMS and plymouth | 15:53 |
| Superdweeb | since we have multi-pointer support now, has anyone here got it working? | 15:53 |
| mphill | Superdweeb: I only need one mouse for now :) | 15:53 |
| Superdweeb | well, I was thinking of setting my touchpad as one pointer and my little red plastic thingy as another. | 15:54 |
| mphill | as a side note eglibc will also bring better support for embedded systems. Once ARM gets into the netbook market it could start to get very interesting | 15:54 |
| ikonia | I guess this would be good to take up as a discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic | 15:55 |
| ikonia | seems like a lot of meat on the bones to chat about | 15:55 |
| ienorand | I'm seeing delays in the stage between grub and kernel (I presume), it stays unusually long at the "booting from hd*,*" stage, what kind of info would I like to get here to populate a bug? | 17:09 |
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| * hggdh took the plunge... now running karmic | 19:01 | |
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| ienorand | hggdh: howsit climbing along? | 19:02 |
| hggdh | so far no issues, except a failure to upgrade ubuntu-desktop | 19:04 |
| hggdh | (which I have not had time to look at, yet, but it seems a script error) | 19:05 |
| ienorand | hmm, I had no probs with that afaik... | 19:07 |
| ienorand | although grub slugs, and autologin don't work, bo those are very minor issues... | 19:08 |
| ienorand | Anyhow, off for a reboot and see if the older kernel bugs grub as well, see you. | 19:10 |
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| Vinceman | if camorama works, will your cam work with all other apps? | 19:35 |
| ienorand | Hello. | 20:01 |
| * BUGabundo is not here... but can't avoid nothing TheInfinity is back! | 20:43 | |
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| maxb | I have a rather odd problem - it's not karmic-specific, but I am running karmic - my laptop brightness takes a ridiculous number of keypresses to go from full bright to full dim | 22:22 |
| maxb | This is on an AAO | 22:23 |
| maxb | any thoughts / reading material for me? | 22:23 |
| calc | maxb: if it is more than previously in Ubuntu it is probably due to a bug being fixed | 22:26 |
| calc | maxb: does each press seem to increase brightness, or do you have to press multiple times for single level? | 22:26 |
| calc | maxb: in the past on at least some laptops the brightness adjust would jump 3x as fast as it should have | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | mine acts fast | 22:27 |
| calc | maxb: your bios defines how many brightness levels there are, many have 10+ levels | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | audio on the other hand is slow.... | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | but I have OSD for audio and not for bright! | 22:28 |
| calc | maxb: however there was a bug where it would do skip so you could only do eg 3 levels when 10 were defined | 22:28 |
| calc | s/do// | 22:28 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: you here? :} | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: just a bit... trying to make it as little as possible... | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | now it's the dog, who is lacking my attention | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | Bug 373006 | 22:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373006 in update-manager "Update-manager should not incentivate to do Partial Updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373006 | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: what does OOo have to do with UM ?? | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | alexsey got me lost on that one | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | :\\\ | 22:34 |
| kklimonda | probably his OOo packages are held back for some reason ;) | 22:36 |
| kklimonda | that's how it sounds to me | 22:36 |
| kklimonda | dunno what does it have in common with bug.. | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | just noise | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | but then again OOo packages are SO big that they get stuck a lot on UM | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | I have gnome-do-plugins stuck | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | I bet it failed to build again on 64bits | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | have to check on LP | 22:37 |
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| BUGabundo | !repositories | 23:28 |
| ubottu | The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories | 23:28 |
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