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| dholbach | hiya kirkland :) | 06:58 |
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| kirkland | dholbach: howdy | 06:58 |
| * kirkland wonders how many people are up at this crazy hour :-) | 06:58 | |
| Rail | +1 :) | 06:59 |
| * FuturePilot is | 06:59 | |
| kirkland | very good :-) | 06:59 |
| RoAkSoAx | +1 | 06:59 |
| kirkland | i'm just getting my demo env setup | 06:59 |
| * dholbach just told a few folks | 06:59 | |
| Jordan_U | I'm not | 06:59 |
| ienorand | I've sleep during the day... | 07:00 |
| kirkland | howdy all! | 07:00 |
| kirkland | alrighty ... | 07:01 |
| kirkland | my name is Dustin Kirkland | 07:01 |
| kirkland | I'm a MOTU and Core Developer in Ubuntu, and I work for Canonical on the Ubuntu Server | 07:02 |
| kirkland | i'm here to talk about PPA's | 07:02 |
| kirkland | what they are | 07:02 |
| kirkland | how to use them | 07:02 |
| kirkland | and how wonderfully useful they are! | 07:03 |
| kirkland | so a PPA is a Personal Package Archive | 07:03 |
| kirkland | and it's a tremendously interesting concept | 07:03 |
| kirkland | i have been in and around Linux development for almost 10 years now, and I never heard of this "PPA" concept until I began working on ubuntu and with launchpad | 07:04 |
| kirkland | so let's start by explaining what an archive is | 07:04 |
| kirkland | i assume most people here have used something like apt-get, aptitude, smart, update-manager, synaptic | 07:05 |
| kirkland | these are client-side utilities that talk to a server providing an archive | 07:05 |
| kirkland | now the archive itself | 07:06 |
| kirkland | is really just an http server | 07:06 |
| kirkland | with files and directories that can be browsed | 07:06 |
| kirkland | i suppose it could probably be an ftp server too | 07:06 |
| kirkland | in any case, you're probably familiar with http://archive.ubuntu.com | 07:07 |
| kirkland | if not, browse around it some time, by hand, by pointing a web browser at that address | 07:07 |
| kirkland | you should see a fairly regular hierarchy | 07:07 |
| kirkland | most of the interesting stuff happens in the pool/ directory | 07:07 |
| kirkland | that's where binary and source packages land | 07:08 |
| kirkland | now, archive.ubuntu.com is the "official" archive | 07:09 |
| kirkland | which means that these are the packages, as "officially" prepared by the developers of the Ubuntu project | 07:09 |
| kirkland | ie, MOTU for Universe/Multiverse, and Core Dev for Main | 07:10 |
| kirkland | users should be able to maintain some fair amount of confidence in the quality and security of packages available in the general ubuntu archive | 07:10 |
| kirkland | ..... | 07:10 |
| kirkland | now, that's all fine and dandy | 07:10 |
| kirkland | but where does the really fun crack live? | 07:11 |
| kirkland | in PPA's of course :-) | 07:11 |
| kirkland | so a PPA is really just a mini little archive | 07:11 |
| kirkland | the structure is basically identical to the archive.ubuntu.com | 07:11 |
| kirkland | but the packages provided there are not part of the official distribution | 07:12 |
| kirkland | there are several reasons for this | 07:12 |
| kirkland | and different people use PPA's for different ones | 07:12 |
| kirkland | usually, it's intended for testing | 07:12 |
| kirkland | providing a binary, built package to some person or people for them to test | 07:13 |
| kirkland | let's take a look at a couple of examples ... | 07:13 |
| kirkland | as part of my responsibilities on the Ubuntu Server Team, I'm the package maintainer of KVM | 07:14 |
| kirkland | it's a virtualization hypervisor, similar, perhaps, to vmware or virtualbox | 07:14 |
| kirkland | 8.04 (hardy) shipped with kvm-62, 8.10 (intrepid) shipped with kvm-72 | 07:14 |
| kirkland | whereas 9.04 (jaunty) shipped with kvm-84 | 07:14 |
| kirkland | now, in the last ~1 year, this particular package has come *a long* way | 07:15 |
| kirkland | and there are people using hardy and intrepid want to use kvm-84, for various bugs that have been fixed, or new features added | 07:15 |
| kirkland | of course, we have processes for rolling out small fixes via updates to Hardy/Intrepid etc. | 07:16 |
| kirkland | and we have a backports mechanism for backporting packages too | 07:16 |
| kirkland | but this is a bit of a special case, and I wanted some really thorough testing | 07:16 |
| kirkland | i could ask people to just "go build it yourself" | 07:16 |
| kirkland | but really, how many people would do that? :-) | 07:16 |
| kirkland | and, furthermore, how would I be sure that they built the right thing, or in the right way? | 07:17 |
| kirkland | so i've been using a PPA to provide packages to this group of people | 07:17 |
| kirkland | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/+archive/ppa | 07:17 |
| kirkland | specifically, that PPA ^ | 07:17 |
| kirkland | if you go to that webpage, you should see 3 version of kvm published in that ppa, one each for Hardy, Intrepid, and Jaunty | 07:18 |
| kirkland | you can also see that I uploaded the latest version merely 7 hours ago :-) | 07:18 |
| kirkland | that brings us to another nice benefit of PPA's ... | 07:18 |
| kirkland | you can upload to them basically whenever you want! | 07:19 |
| kirkland | for the official archives, we have a number of deadlines and freezes that must be adhered to | 07:19 |
| kirkland | currently, Karmic is open for development, and developers can upload to it | 07:19 |
| kirkland | but Hardy/Intrepid/Jaunty are not open for development | 07:19 |
| kirkland | and thus, it requires special permission to upload to those official archives | 07:20 |
| kirkland | but PPA's can be uploaded to at any time, really | 07:20 |
| kirkland | I should also note that this particular PPA is a "team" PPA | 07:20 |
| kirkland | this is a relatively recent feature to Launchpad | 07:20 |
| kirkland | so I have my own PPA ... | 07:21 |
| kirkland | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa | 07:21 |
| kirkland | but i also have access to a number of team ppa's | 07:21 |
| kirkland | so these KVM packages are sort of maintained by the ~ubuntu-virt team | 07:21 |
| kirkland | in my PPA, you'll see a different set of packages | 07:22 |
| kirkland | for one thing, you might notice XMMS :-) | 07:22 |
| kirkland | i still prefer xmms over all of the other mp3 players out there, but it was pulled from the official Ubuntu archives (for some very good reasons) | 07:22 |
| kirkland | no matter ... I just keep a copy in my PPA, that I can use on any Ubuntu machine I have :-) | 07:23 |
| kirkland | so using a ppa | 07:23 |
| kirkland | i should probably explain how to do this ... | 07:23 |
| kirkland | to do so, i have created a shared screen instance | 07:24 |
| kirkland | you can join me at: | 07:24 |
| kirkland | ssh -C guest@ec2-75-101-177-177.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 07:25 |
| kirkland | the password is "guest" | 07:25 |
| kirkland | okay | 07:26 |
| kirkland | please try to watch IRC, where I'll explain what I'm doing | 07:26 |
| kirkland | and the terminal, where I'm going to do it | 07:26 |
| kirkland | first, I'm going to add my PPA to my list of archives | 07:26 |
| kirkland | sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list | 07:26 |
| kirkland | now, see the webpage https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa | 07:27 |
| kirkland | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirkland/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main | 07:27 |
| kirkland | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirkland/ppa/ubuntu jaunty mai | 07:27 |
| kirkland | i'm going to add that to my sources.list | 07:27 |
| kirkland | i'm going to save that file | 07:27 |
| kirkland | and sudo apt-get update | 07:27 |
| kirkland | as you can see, i get an error about a missing gpg key | 07:28 |
| kirkland | we can solve that by retrieving the proper key | 07:28 |
| kirkland | This repository is signed with 1024R/34BEEE14 OpenPGP key. Follow these instructions for installing packages from this PPA. | 07:28 |
| kirkland | ^ the webpage tells us this | 07:28 |
| kirkland | http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x657A928364338B14A900B68D7781BA0134BEEE14&op=index | 07:28 |
| kirkland | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding a PPA to your Ubuntu repositories | 07:29 |
| kirkland | sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 657a928364338b14a900b68d7781ba0134beee14 | 07:30 |
| kirkland | now, let's rerun the update | 07:30 |
| kirkland | \o/ | 07:30 |
| kirkland | no errors | 07:30 |
| kirkland | so i want to install the last screen-profiles package from my PPA | 07:31 |
| kirkland | note that version on this Hardy server is 1.44 | 07:31 |
| kirkland | https://edge.launchpad.net/~kirkland/+archive/ppa | 07:31 |
| kirkland | and note that 1.54 is available here | 07:31 |
| kirkland | now, notice that version 1.54-0ubuntu1~ppa3 is installed | 07:32 |
| kirkland | thanks micahg | 07:33 |
| kirkland | so apt-cache policy screen-profiles will show the different versions available | 07:33 |
| kirkland | and specifically where they came from | 07:33 |
| kirkland | now, let's grab a source package | 07:33 |
| kirkland | whoops, bad example | 07:35 |
| kirkland | um, let's grab a different package (something that's not already in my ppa) | 07:35 |
| kirkland | gotta chase down some dependencies | 07:36 |
| rolando-ve | Try a usplash-theme | 07:36 |
| santiago-ve | fish | 07:36 |
| kirkland | so i'm going to grab the source of a package called bip | 07:37 |
| kirkland | it's an irc proxy | 07:37 |
| kirkland | apt-get source bip | 07:37 |
| kirkland | let's imagine that i've made some edition to the source code | 07:37 |
| kirkland | now, i need to increment the version, and add a changelog message | 07:38 |
| kirkland | dch -i | 07:38 |
| kirkland | (more dependencies) | 07:38 |
| kirkland | okay, now here's an important point | 07:40 |
| kirkland | when preparing a package for upload to a ppa | 07:40 |
| kirkland | we need to version it in such a way that it's a "successor" to previous versions | 07:40 |
| kirkland | but we want to make sure that future, official versions supercede this package | 07:40 |
| kirkland | in this case, jaunty's bip is version 0.7.4-2ubuntu1 | 07:41 |
| kirkland | by doing a dch -i, i have "incremented" the ubuntu1 to an ubuntu2 | 07:41 |
| kirkland | that will ensure that this is considered an "upgrade" from the previous ubuntu1 version | 07:41 |
| kirkland | however, we want to make sure that a future, *real* ubuntu2 version will supercede this one | 07:42 |
| kirkland | and thus, there's a special character that allows us to do this ... | 07:42 |
| kirkland | the ~ tilda | 07:42 |
| kirkland | bip (0.7.4-2ubuntu2~ppa1) jaunty; urgency=low | 07:42 |
| kirkland | package is bip | 07:42 |
| kirkland | the version is 0.7.4-2ubuntu2~ppa1 | 07:42 |
| kirkland | if i want to make multiple uploads of this package over and over to my ppa, i can iterate ~ppa2, ~ppa3, etc. | 07:43 |
| kirkland | now, i add a change log entry | 07:43 |
| kirkland | specificying the file i changed | 07:43 |
| kirkland | and why | 07:43 |
| kirkland | and i reference the bug number fixed | 07:43 |
| kirkland | next I should build the package locally | 07:44 |
| kirkland | to make sure that I haven't broken the build somehow | 07:44 |
| kirkland | before wasting the time of the build machines in soyuz | 07:44 |
| kirkland | (note that you should really use pbuild or sbuild, eventually, but that's an hour long class in itself) | 07:44 |
| kirkland | so first, i need to get the build-dependencies | 07:44 |
| kirkland | sudo apt-get build-dep bip | 07:45 |
| kirkland | and then I'll do the build | 07:45 |
| kirkland | using "debuild" | 07:45 |
| * kirkland now wishes he had shelled out $0.80/hour for the quad-core ec2 instance :-) | 07:46 | |
| kirkland | so dch is the changelog editor | 07:47 |
| kirkland | you can use dch -e to edit the existing entry | 07:47 |
| kirkland | (ie, don't increment) | 07:47 |
| kirkland | the -i does the increment | 07:47 |
| kirkland | i also should have noted that you really want to double check the release | 07:47 |
| kirkland | in this case, it's "jaunty" | 07:47 |
| kirkland | but you might have, perhaps, wanted to specify that this package is for hardy or karmic, for instance | 07:48 |
| kirkland | okay, the build is done | 07:48 |
| kirkland | you see there's an error | 07:48 |
| kirkland | it's missing the gpg to sign this package | 07:48 |
| kirkland | of course, I have not copied my gpg key to ec2 :-) | 07:48 |
| kirkland | so I'm not going to be able to sign this package | 07:48 |
| kirkland | (nor actually upload it) | 07:49 |
| kirkland | but let's get to that point .... | 07:49 |
| kirkland | looking in the director above this one, we can now see that we have binary *.deb files | 07:49 |
| kirkland | so we have build the binary package locally | 07:49 |
| kirkland | now, let's build the source package | 07:49 |
| kirkland | debuild -S | 07:49 |
| kirkland | again, i'm going to get the same GPG errors | 07:50 |
| kirkland | under normal circumstances, you will be prompted for your GPG password | 07:50 |
| kirkland | and GPG will be used to "sign" your package | 07:50 |
| kirkland | this is how Launchpad (and users of your PPA) can have confidence that you're the person who created that pacakge | 07:50 |
| kirkland | okay, so the *source.changes file is the file that contains the magic needed to upload to a ppa | 07:51 |
| kirkland | we should see some important information in this file | 07:51 |
| kirkland | most importantly, checksums of the files, and a manifest of the files that need to be uploaded | 07:52 |
| kirkland | once you have a changes file, you are clear to upload | 07:52 |
| kirkland | now, uploading to a PPA requires one configuration change | 07:52 |
| kirkland | you need a file in your home directory called ~/.dput.cf | 07:52 |
| kirkland | my ppa entry looks like this: | 07:53 |
| kirkland | [kirkland-ppa] | 07:53 |
| kirkland | fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net | 07:53 |
| kirkland | method = ftp | 07:53 |
| kirkland | incoming = ~kirkland/ubuntu/ | 07:53 |
| kirkland | login = anonymous | 07:53 |
| kirkland | allow_unsigned_uploads = 0 | 07:53 |
| kirkland | now that i have that file, i could attempt the upload | 07:53 |
| kirkland | (note that this is going to fail, because of the lack of a gpg signature) | 07:54 |
| kirkland | but i want to demonstrate the command | 07:54 |
| kirkland | dput kirkland-ppa *sources.changes | 07:54 |
| kirkland | dput kirkland-ppa *source.changes | 07:54 |
| kirkland | now under normal circumstances, you'd see a few messages scroll by, and see your upload take place | 07:55 |
| kirkland | about a minute later, you should get an email from Launchpad either accepting, or rejecting your upload (in case something was malformed) | 07:55 |
| kirkland | if it's accepted, your package will go into the build queue | 07:55 |
| kirkland | and eventually, Soyuz will build your code, and publish it to your PPA | 07:55 |
| kirkland | alrighty ... let's take a few questions ... | 07:56 |
| djails | how do you specify what ubuntu version your package is for ? | 07:56 |
| rolando-ve | Kirk, If I use intrepid, and need to do that for Hardy, I must to do in a chroot + debootstrap? | 07:56 |
| blacknred0 | so if i am building my first package should i start importing my keys first from launchpad? | 07:56 |
| kirkland | it's pretty quiet, so i suppose you can just paste your question here | 07:56 |
| kirkland | djails: in the first line of the changelog, edited with dch | 07:57 |
| kirkland | djails: bip (0.7.4-2ubuntu2~ppa1) jaunty; urgency=low | 07:57 |
| kirkland | djails: note the "jaunty" in that line | 07:57 |
| kirkland | rolando-ve: hmm, to do your test binary build properly -- yes | 07:58 |
| kirkland | rolando-ve: however, you should be able to build your source package safely | 07:58 |
| kirkland | rolando-ve: so in that case you could grab the source, edit your changelog (and whatever files) and debuild -S | 07:58 |
| kirkland | rolando-ve: again, it's always proper form to test your build locally first | 07:58 |
| iKOSHrf | can i make it a version that never gets replaced by the official branch? or just start my own ? | 07:58 |
| kirkland | rolando-ve: it's quite rude to cause build failures on launchpad (costing other people time) if your build won't even work locally | 07:59 |
| micahg | ls | 07:59 |
| micahg | oops | 07:59 |
| kirkland | blacknred0: if you're building your first package, you should make sure that launchpad has your GPG and SSH public keys | 07:59 |
| kirkland | blacknred0: also, i think you have to sign the Ubuntero agreement to use PPAs | 08:00 |
| kirkland | iKOSHrf: i don't think i understand that question? | 08:00 |
| blacknred0 | kirkland, yeap, i have all of them. i am getting problems in the building :S | 08:00 |
| Ludo | kirkland, i see the package you build was for the i386 architectures. How will you change the package to be build for the amd64 architectures? | 08:00 |
| kirkland | iKOSHrf: if you don't ever want it to get replaced, change the version to 99999.99999.9999 :-) | 08:00 |
| iKOSHrf | kirkland, if i just want to "fork" the version to make it my own "version" for some odd reason | 08:00 |
| iKOSHrf | hehehe ok. | 08:01 |
| kirkland | blacknred0: make sure you have all of the build dependencies, sudo apt-get build-dep $PKG | 08:01 |
| blacknred0 | kirkland, i mean is just a single script but it the make doesn't want to make the file properly | 08:01 |
| blacknred0 | kirkland, ok, thnx for the info. | 08:01 |
| kirkland | iKOSHrf: well i think that's exactly what I did in my bip example -- i have forked the ubuntu2 version; but you're saying that you don't want it to ever be replaced | 08:02 |
| kirkland | iKOSHrf: in that case, you could add a really big number at the beginning of the package (which I don't really recommend), or "pin" the package | 08:02 |
| kirkland | iKOSHrf: see the manpages for apt-get for pinning instructions | 08:02 |
| iKOSHrf | ok, thanks. | 08:02 |
| djails | kirkland: thanks. Now if you want to create a package for different versions of ubuntu, how do you go about that ? | 08:02 |
| kirkland | Ludo: well, ideally you'd test your build on both architectures; i usually do that with KVM virtual machines; however, I understand that this isn't always possible | 08:03 |
| kirkland | Ludo: launchpad will build PPA packages for several archectures for you | 08:03 |
| kirkland | Ludo: basically, once I've confirmed that it builds on one arch, and if I have reasonable certainty that it'll build elsewhere, I go ahead and push it to launchpad | 08:04 |
| Ludo | kirkland, thanks. | 08:04 |
| kirkland | djails: what do you mean? you just change "jaunty" to say "karmic" or "hardy" in that first line | 08:04 |
| djails | kirkland: so do you maintain a debian/ dir per version ? I have this upstream source tree and I want to createpackages for serveral ubuntus | 08:05 |
| micahg | do you need ot backport -dev packages? | 08:05 |
| kirkland | djails: ah ... | 08:05 |
| kirkland | djails: gotcha | 08:06 |
| Ludo | kirkland, how would one add a extra dependency to a package? For example I need a extra library or newer library for my modification to work? | 08:06 |
| kirkland | djails: so I usually just dch -e, add a ~ppa1 ... hardy, then debuild -S | 08:06 |
| kirkland | djails: then, in that same dir | 08:06 |
| kirkland | djails: dch -e again, change to ~ppa2 ... intrepid, debuild -S again | 08:07 |
| kirkland | djails: dch -e again, change to ~ppa3 ... jaunty; debuild -S | 08:07 |
| kirkland | djails: then cd .. | 08:07 |
| kirkland | djails: and dput kirkland-ppa *source.changes | 08:07 |
| kirkland | djails: HOWEVER .... | 08:07 |
| kirkland | djails: this won't necessarily work for just any package | 08:07 |
| kirkland | djails: it'll work fine for simple packages with minimal build dependencies | 08:08 |
| kirkland | djails: but if a package depends on a newer version of some library, it's quite a bit more difficult :-) | 08:08 |
| djails | kirkland: ok got it ! i ll try that | 08:08 |
| kirkland | Ludo: that information is in debian/control | 08:08 |
| kirkland | Ludo: so over in our shared screen session ... | 08:08 |
| kirkland | Build-Depends: cdbs (>= 0.4.49), debhelper (>= 5.0.37.2), bison, flex, libssl-dev, quilt | 08:09 |
| kirkland | Ludo: those are the build-deps for bip | 08:09 |
| kirkland | okay guys ... i'm about to call it a night here | 08:09 |
| kirkland | as it's past 2am :-) | 08:09 |
| micahg | 1 last Q? | 08:09 |
| kirkland | one thing that i'll mention | 08:09 |
| kirkland | micahg: shoot! | 08:09 |
| micahg | do you have to backport -dev packages? | 08:09 |
| micahg | I want to build FF3.5b4 for Jaunty | 08:10 |
| micahg | or are -dev only used when compiling? | 08:10 |
| ienorand | ps | 08:10 |
| ienorand | sorry | 08:10 |
| kirkland | micahg: i'm not sure i understand your question | 08:11 |
| kirkland | micahg: but your build dependencies should be available | 08:11 |
| kirkland | micahg: so if you want to build something in your PPA, you need to ensure that the build deps are available | 08:11 |
| kirkland | micahg: that brings up an important point .... | 08:11 |
| kirkland | micahg: in your PPA configuration page, you can specify a few different restrictions, or options for your dependencies | 08:12 |
| kirkland | on your own PPA page, you should see a link for "Edit dependencies" | 08:12 |
| kirkland | Basic (only released packages). | 08:13 |
| kirkland | Security (basic dependencies and important security updates). | 08:13 |
| kirkland | Default (security dependencies and recommended updates). | 08:13 |
| kirkland | Proposed (default dependencies and proposed updates). | 08:13 |
| kirkland | Backports (default dependencies and unsupported updates). | 08:13 |
| kirkland | micahg: that might help | 08:13 |
| micahg | ok | 08:13 |
| micahg | thanks | 08:13 |
| rolando-ve | Thanks | 08:13 |
| === mimir|wrk is now known as mimir|on | ||
| djails | kirkland: thanks ! | 08:14 |
| FuturePilot | kirkland: thanks for the tutorial :) | 08:14 |
| kirkland | you guys are most welcome | 08:14 |
| Ludo | kirkland, thanks. | 08:14 |
| rolando-ve | Nice job kirkland | 08:14 |
| kirkland | so one last thing in closing | 08:14 |
| kirkland | some people have asked how to setup a shared screen session like i used | 08:14 |
| kirkland | did you guys find that useful? | 08:14 |
| micahg | yes | 08:14 |
| djails | definitely | 08:14 |
| FuturePilot | very | 08:14 |
| rolando-ve | Yeap | 08:15 |
| Ludo | ^^ | 08:15 |
| kirkland | okay, so i have a blog post about this | 08:15 |
| kirkland | http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/04/teaching-class-with-gnu-screen.html | 08:15 |
| kirkland | that explains in detail what needs to be done | 08:15 |
| rolando-ve | Thanks again, :D | 08:15 |
| ienorand | Thankyou for the session :) | 08:15 |
| kirkland | more simply, if you have an EC2 account, you can use a script I wrote, called "screenbin" | 08:15 |
| kirkland | i just uploaded a new version to my PPA, so look for it there shortly :-) | 08:16 |
| kirkland | that's all from me | 08:16 |
| kirkland | good night :-) | 08:16 |
| kirkland | or morning | 08:16 |
| micahg | good night | 08:16 |
| rolando-ve | kirkland: If you let me, I would like to translate it to Spanish | 08:17 |
| kirkland | rolando-ve: please, go for it :-) | 08:17 |
| rolando-ve | and post it in my blog, (as yours) | 08:17 |
| rolando-ve | Thanks! | 08:17 |
| rolando-ve | see all! | 08:17 |
| neoXsys | Where can i find the log of last session by kirkland? | 08:35 |
| neoXsys | http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/05/07/%23ubuntu-classroom.html | 08:37 |
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| Walter_Eco | Is the a session about Personal Package Archives (PPAs) still on or did I miss it? | 09:40 |
| maxb | Walter_Eco: It was a few hours ago: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/05/07/%23ubuntu-classroom.html | 09:45 |
| Walter_Eco | thanks | 09:56 |
| blue | Shouldn't the motd be updated to show that the PPA class has already taken place? | 14:51 |
| blue | and the wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom specifies two classes as upcoming even though they have already taken place | 14:52 |
| blue | not to mention today's class is not even listed on the wiki | 14:53 |
| TurtlePie | ikes | 16:53 |
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| tamizh-geek | date -u | 17:58 |
| tamizh-geek | not upcomin. its finished! | 17:59 |
| pleia2 | looks like it might have been canceled actually | 18:01 |
| jarlen | which? | 18:01 |
| pleia2 | the class in the topic | 18:02 |
| pleia2 | it's not up on the packaging team's wiki anymore | 18:02 |
| jarlen | hm, somethings bugged at my place | 18:02 |
| jarlen | why is UTC 2 hours and 17 minutes behind my time? | 18:03 |
| jarlen | it can't be like 2 1/4 timezone :P | 18:03 |
| rfkrocktk | hello! | 18:09 |
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| pleia2 | hm | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | no, you guys confused me :) the session happened! | 18:12 |
| rfkrocktk | when will the session on ubuntu packaging start? is that in an hour? | 18:14 |
| pleia2 | rfkrocktk: there was a session this morning | 18:15 |
| rfkrocktk | oh, did I miss it? | 18:15 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training/Logs/2009-05-07 | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | on PPAs? yes, looks like | 18:16 |
| rfkrocktk | right: 6:00 UTC AM | 18:16 |
| * rfkrocktk failed. | 18:17 | |
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| pleia2 | there, should be all accurate now | 18:23 |
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| xmetalcorex | i have a problem with < apt -get > apt: command not found | 20:51 |
| pleia2 | it's apt-get | 20:51 |
| pleia2 | no space :) | 20:51 |
| xmetalcorex | no space will try | 20:52 |
| xmetalcorex | i want to install dhcp | 20:53 |
| xmetalcorex | can you tell me the syntaxe | 20:53 |
| pleia2 | xmetalcorex: this channel is for hosting classes, you want #ubuntu for support | 20:53 |
| jimcooncat | xmetalcorex: meet me in #ubuntu, I'll give you a hand with that | 20:54 |
| xmetalcorex | thanxxxxx alot | 20:55 |
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