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ogra_moo21:59
NCommander#startmeeting22:00
MootBotMeeting started at 16:00. The chair is NCommander.22:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]22:00
* GrueMaster grunts in acknowledgement.22:00
NCommander[link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/2009050722:01
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/2009050722:01
NCommander[topic] Action Items Review22:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Action Items Review22:01
NCommander[topic] NCommander to investigate #33814822:01
MootBotNew Topic:  NCommander to investigate #33814822:01
NCommanderPoked it with a stick, VNC4's package is ... strange. Will see about solving after karmic kernel is descrewed.22:02
NCommander[topic] lool to spec ec2-package-builder for karmic22:02
MootBotNew Topic:  lool to spec ec2-package-builder for karmic22:02
GrueMasterisn't he out on holiday?22:03
ogra_lool is on holiday22:03
NCommanderOh22:03
NCommander[topic] #22:03
NCommanderGrueMaster to test newer version of Hildon Desktop to see if it resolves cat kills MID bug (co)22:03
MootBotNew Topic:  #22:03
GrueMasterco22:03
NCommander[topic] NCommander and GrueMaster to debug #33780922:03
MootBotNew Topic:  NCommander and GrueMaster to debug #33780922:03
NCommander(I believe thats the APIC 0 issue, LP is currently timing out for me)22:04
ogra_yes it is22:04
ogra_according to the roadmap22:04
GrueMasteryes it is.  CO.  I've been focusing on other issues this week.22:04
NCommanderSame here22:04
NCommander[topic] StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration22:04
MootBotNew Topic:  StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration22:04
ogra_hmm, no StevenK22:05
* NCommander just noticed22:05
* NCommander will note ATM I'm half dead :-/22:05
ogra_can you ping him in the other channel ?22:06
* ogra_ is in another machine atm22:06
ogra_*on22:06
NCommanderogra, he's /away ATM22:06
NCommanderBut I pinged him22:06
ogra_ah22:06
NCommander[topic] HIgh priority bugs22:07
MootBotNew Topic:  HIgh priority bugs22:07
ogra_looks like most of the team is missing btw22:07
* ogra_ doesnt see dyfet either22:07
NCommanderThis is the right time for the IRC meeting, right?22:07
* NCommander just wants to make sure he's not loosing it22:08
ogra_yes22:08
ogra_it didnt change according to my gcal22:08
GrueMastersame here.22:08
GrueMasterI pinged dyfet.22:08
ogra_davidm, plars ?22:08
plarsogra_: yes?22:08
* ogra_ isnt sure persia is supposed to attend atm22:09
ogra_plars, just checking who of us is actually here :)22:09
NCommanderAnyway, a heads up on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ports/+bug/37321422:09
NCommanderATM the armel kernel headers are completely hosed, so any build that needed the kernel headers will fail on armel, amd64, i386, lpia, and powerpc22:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 373214 in linux-ports "/usr/include/asm/* is not present in linux-libc-dev" [Critical,In progress]22:09
ogra_thats totally not bound to armel as i understood22:09
NCommanderThis bug is on cjwatson and on my plate, as well as members of the kernel team, but until its resolved, please expect any upload to fail on these architecture.22:09
ogra_its broken on all arches22:10
ogra_or not?22:10
NCommanderogra_, ia64, sparc and hppa are unaffected22:10
NCommander(aka, only the archs people use are affected :-))22:10
ogra_heh22:10
NCommanderIt looks like its a bug in find in some very rare cirmstances22:10
NCommanderOh, cjwatson isolated it, so it should be fixed soonish22:11
ogra_great22:11
loolNCommander: Not sure why specing ec2-package-builder is still on the agenda; it's registered for karmic22:11
NCommanderlool, its an action item, I just haven't scratched it yet22:11
NCommanderSo that's pretty much all I have on bug and annoucements affecting the team.22:12
ogra_on a sidenote we have a massive issue on armel with c++ it seems22:12
NCommanderogra, ?22:12
davidmI'm here sorry22:12
ogra_but afaik lamont is working on libstdc++22:12
NCommanderogra_, what's the issue? (I haven't heard anything)22:12
plarsogra_: bug#?22:13
ogra_totem, python-apt and some libgnome stuff ftbfs'ed22:13
ogra_i talked with cjwatson about it, seems lamot is doing a build that fixes it atm ... i dont think there is a bug open for it22:14
lamontogra_: the linux-libc-dev issue is probably going to be an issue for the libstdc++ thing, but yes, libstdc++ is actively on my list22:14
ogra_on rimu there is a local build from doko if you need to testbuild any packages22:14
ogra_lamont, do you think it will be solved in time for alpha1 (so we can build images)22:15
ogra_?22:15
davidmStevenK will be here shortly22:15
ogra_currently livecd-rootfs fails22:15
cjwatsonI just sent a patch to findutils upstream to fix the linux-libc-dev bug22:15
cjwatsonit'll be fixed in Ubuntu as soon as I can manage it22:15
ogra_cjwatson, yay, one down the list22:15
NCommandercjwatson, +1 :-)22:15
ogra_so we only have libstdc++ left ...22:16
lamontcjwatson: the expectation is that said bug will probably get in the way of libstdc++ - tell me that's happy and it'll definitely get time from me22:16
NCommanderhey StevenK22:16
NCommander[topic] # StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration22:16
MootBotNew Topic:  # StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration22:16
StevenKPlease carry over, I think that should be discussed at UDS22:17
cjwatsonlamont: (-> #ubuntu-devel)22:17
NCommanderfair enough22:18
NCommander[topic] Specification Discussion22:18
MootBotNew Topic:  Specification Discussion22:18
NCommanderif any :-P22:18
NCommanderGoing once22:19
NCommanderGoing twice22:19
NCommanderGoing three times ...22:19
NCommander[topic] Open Discussion22:19
MootBotNew Topic:  Open Discussion22:19
davidmI think you can remove that from the agenda22:19
davidmSpecification Discussion that is22:19
NCommanderdavidm, I will when I write up the next weeks wiki pages22:20
davidmThat works22:20
NCommanderNo open discussion?22:20
NCommanderOk ...22:21
NCommander[topic] Any Other Business ...22:21
MootBotNew Topic:  Any Other Business ...22:21
ogra_doesnt look like22:21
davidmNope22:21
NCommanderWell22:22
bradfgood meeting!22:22
NCommanderI think we're about to set a record for fastest mobile meeting ever22:22
davidmNah, we had one in 10 minutes once22:22
plarsheh22:22
StevenKFirst one with the new format, if I recall22:22
davidmthat was a while ago however22:22
ogra_heh, well, i dont remember but i think the last pre-UDS ones were as short as well22:22
NCommanderOk, I think we're done22:23
StevenKWe went from a meeting that took 70 minutes to 10, and we all went "WTF?"22:23
NCommanderGoing once22:23
ogra_yeah22:23
NCommandertwice22:23
NCommanderthree times22:23
NCommanderAnd we're out of here!22:24
StevenKSold!22:24
NCommander#endmeeting22:24
MootBotMeeting finished at 16:24.22:24
* StevenK coughs22:24
ogra_who pays it ?22:24
StevenKThe bidder, we were just selling it22:25
* ogra_ didnt see any hands up ... but NCommander sold it22:28
NCommanderogra_, I dunno who to :-)22:28
ogra_damned ... then you have to keep it and pay the storage costs :P22:29
GrueMasterjudging by the scroll log, I think it went to a silent bidder.22:29
ogra_ah22:29
ogra_these quiet guys buy the world :)22:30

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