[21:59] <ogra_> moo
[22:00] <NCommander> #startmeeting
[22:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 16:00. The chair is NCommander.
[22:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[22:00]  * GrueMaster grunts in acknowledgement.
[22:01] <NCommander> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090507
[22:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090507
[22:01] <NCommander> [topic] Action Items Review
[22:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Action Items Review
[22:01] <NCommander> [topic] NCommander to investigate #338148
[22:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  NCommander to investigate #338148
[22:02] <NCommander> Poked it with a stick, VNC4's package is ... strange. Will see about solving after karmic kernel is descrewed.
[22:02] <NCommander> [topic] lool to spec ec2-package-builder for karmic
[22:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  lool to spec ec2-package-builder for karmic
[22:03] <GrueMaster> isn't he out on holiday?
[22:03] <ogra_> lool is on holiday
[22:03] <NCommander> Oh
[22:03] <NCommander> [topic] #
[22:03] <NCommander> GrueMaster to test newer version of Hildon Desktop to see if it resolves cat kills MID bug (co)
[22:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  #
[22:03] <GrueMaster> co
[22:03] <NCommander> [topic] NCommander and GrueMaster to debug #337809
[22:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  NCommander and GrueMaster to debug #337809
[22:04] <NCommander> (I believe thats the APIC 0 issue, LP is currently timing out for me)
[22:04] <ogra_> yes it is
[22:04] <ogra_> according to the roadmap
[22:04] <GrueMaster> yes it is.  CO.  I've been focusing on other issues this week.
[22:04] <NCommander> Same here
[22:04] <NCommander> [topic] StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration
[22:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration
[22:05] <ogra_> hmm, no StevenK
[22:05]  * NCommander just noticed
[22:05]  * NCommander will note ATM I'm half dead :-/
[22:06] <ogra_> can you ping him in the other channel ?
[22:06]  * ogra_ is in another machine atm
[22:06] <ogra_> *on
[22:06] <NCommander> ogra, he's /away ATM
[22:06] <NCommander> But I pinged him
[22:06] <ogra_> ah
[22:07] <NCommander> [topic] HIgh priority bugs
[22:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  HIgh priority bugs
[22:07] <ogra_> looks like most of the team is missing btw
[22:07]  * ogra_ doesnt see dyfet either
[22:07] <NCommander> This is the right time for the IRC meeting, right?
[22:08]  * NCommander just wants to make sure he's not loosing it
[22:08] <ogra_> yes
[22:08] <ogra_> it didnt change according to my gcal
[22:08] <GrueMaster> same here.
[22:08] <GrueMaster> I pinged dyfet.
[22:08] <ogra_> davidm, plars ?
[22:08] <plars> ogra_: yes?
[22:09]  * ogra_ isnt sure persia is supposed to attend atm
[22:09] <ogra_> plars, just checking who of us is actually here :)
[22:09] <NCommander> Anyway, a heads up on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ports/+bug/373214
[22:09] <NCommander> ATM the armel kernel headers are completely hosed, so any build that needed the kernel headers will fail on armel, amd64, i386, lpia, and powerpc
[22:09] <ogra_> thats totally not bound to armel as i understood
[22:09] <NCommander> This bug is on cjwatson and on my plate, as well as members of the kernel team, but until its resolved, please expect any upload to fail on these architecture.
[22:10] <ogra_> its broken on all arches
[22:10] <ogra_> or not?
[22:10] <NCommander> ogra_, ia64, sparc and hppa are unaffected
[22:10] <NCommander> (aka, only the archs people use are affected :-))
[22:10] <ogra_> heh
[22:10] <NCommander> It looks like its a bug in find in some very rare cirmstances
[22:11] <NCommander> Oh, cjwatson isolated it, so it should be fixed soonish
[22:11] <ogra_> great
[22:11] <lool> NCommander: Not sure why specing ec2-package-builder is still on the agenda; it's registered for karmic
[22:11] <NCommander> lool, its an action item, I just haven't scratched it yet
[22:12] <NCommander> So that's pretty much all I have on bug and annoucements affecting the team.
[22:12] <ogra_> on a sidenote we have a massive issue on armel with c++ it seems
[22:12] <NCommander> ogra, ?
[22:12] <davidm> I'm here sorry
[22:12] <ogra_> but afaik lamont is working on libstdc++
[22:12] <NCommander> ogra_, what's the issue? (I haven't heard anything)
[22:13] <plars> ogra_: bug#?
[22:13] <ogra_> totem, python-apt and some libgnome stuff ftbfs'ed
[22:14] <ogra_> i talked with cjwatson about it, seems lamot is doing a build that fixes it atm ... i dont think there is a bug open for it
[22:14] <lamont> ogra_: the linux-libc-dev issue is probably going to be an issue for the libstdc++ thing, but yes, libstdc++ is actively on my list
[22:14] <ogra_> on rimu there is a local build from doko if you need to testbuild any packages
[22:15] <ogra_> lamont, do you think it will be solved in time for alpha1 (so we can build images)
[22:15] <ogra_> ?
[22:15] <davidm> StevenK will be here shortly
[22:15] <ogra_> currently livecd-rootfs fails
[22:15] <cjwatson> I just sent a patch to findutils upstream to fix the linux-libc-dev bug
[22:15] <cjwatson> it'll be fixed in Ubuntu as soon as I can manage it
[22:15] <ogra_> cjwatson, yay, one down the list
[22:15] <NCommander> cjwatson, +1 :-)
[22:16] <ogra_> so we only have libstdc++ left ...
[22:16] <lamont> cjwatson: the expectation is that said bug will probably get in the way of libstdc++ - tell me that's happy and it'll definitely get time from me
[22:16] <NCommander> hey StevenK
[22:16] <NCommander> [topic] # StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration
[22:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  # StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration
[22:17] <StevenK> Please carry over, I think that should be discussed at UDS
[22:17] <cjwatson> lamont: (-> #ubuntu-devel)
[22:18] <NCommander> fair enough
[22:18] <NCommander> [topic] Specification Discussion
[22:18] <MootBot> New Topic:  Specification Discussion
[22:18] <NCommander> if any :-P
[22:19] <NCommander> Going once
[22:19] <NCommander> Going twice
[22:19] <NCommander> Going three times ...
[22:19] <NCommander> [topic] Open Discussion
[22:19] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion
[22:19] <davidm> I think you can remove that from the agenda
[22:19] <davidm> Specification Discussion that is
[22:20] <NCommander> davidm, I will when I write up the next weeks wiki pages
[22:20] <davidm> That works
[22:20] <NCommander> No open discussion?
[22:21] <NCommander> Ok ...
[22:21] <NCommander> [topic] Any Other Business ...
[22:21] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any Other Business ...
[22:21] <ogra_> doesnt look like
[22:21] <davidm> Nope
[22:22] <NCommander> Well
[22:22] <bradf> good meeting!
[22:22] <NCommander> I think we're about to set a record for fastest mobile meeting ever
[22:22] <davidm> Nah, we had one in 10 minutes once
[22:22] <plars> heh
[22:22] <StevenK> First one with the new format, if I recall
[22:22] <davidm> that was a while ago however
[22:22] <ogra_> heh, well, i dont remember but i think the last pre-UDS ones were as short as well
[22:23] <NCommander> Ok, I think we're done
[22:23] <StevenK> We went from a meeting that took 70 minutes to 10, and we all went "WTF?"
[22:23] <NCommander> Going once
[22:23] <ogra_> yeah
[22:23] <NCommander> twice
[22:23] <NCommander> three times
[22:24] <NCommander> And we're out of here!
[22:24] <StevenK> Sold!
[22:24] <NCommander> #endmeeting
[22:24] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 16:24.
[22:24]  * StevenK coughs
[22:24] <ogra_> who pays it ?
[22:25] <StevenK> The bidder, we were just selling it
[22:28]  * ogra_ didnt see any hands up ... but NCommander sold it
[22:28] <NCommander> ogra_, I dunno who to :-)
[22:29] <ogra_> damned ... then you have to keep it and pay the storage costs :P
[22:29] <GrueMaster> judging by the scroll log, I think it went to a silent bidder.
[22:29] <ogra_> ah
[22:30] <ogra_> these quiet guys buy the world :)