=== lamont` is now known as lamont === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx === davmor21 is now known as davmor2 === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === asac_ is now known as asac === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke === ScottK2 is now known as ScottK === fader is now known as fader|lunch === fader|lunch is now known as fader === juliux is now known as juliux_HSV === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx === lukjad007 is now known as Angel_Of_Kife === Angel_Of_Kife is now known as Angel_Of_Life === Angel_Of_Life is now known as lukjad007 === lukjad007 is now known as Angel_Of_Life === Angel_Of_Life is now known as lukjad007 === juliux_HSV is now known as juliux [21:59] moo [22:00] #startmeeting [22:00] Meeting started at 16:00. The chair is NCommander. [22:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [22:00] * GrueMaster grunts in acknowledgement. [22:01] [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090507 [22:01] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090507 [22:01] [topic] Action Items Review [22:01] New Topic: Action Items Review [22:01] [topic] NCommander to investigate #338148 [22:01] New Topic: NCommander to investigate #338148 [22:02] Poked it with a stick, VNC4's package is ... strange. Will see about solving after karmic kernel is descrewed. [22:02] [topic] lool to spec ec2-package-builder for karmic [22:02] New Topic: lool to spec ec2-package-builder for karmic [22:03] isn't he out on holiday? [22:03] lool is on holiday [22:03] Oh [22:03] [topic] # [22:03] GrueMaster to test newer version of Hildon Desktop to see if it resolves cat kills MID bug (co) [22:03] New Topic: # [22:03] co [22:03] [topic] NCommander and GrueMaster to debug #337809 [22:03] New Topic: NCommander and GrueMaster to debug #337809 [22:04] (I believe thats the APIC 0 issue, LP is currently timing out for me) [22:04] yes it is [22:04] according to the roadmap [22:04] yes it is. CO. I've been focusing on other issues this week. [22:04] Same here [22:04] [topic] StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration [22:04] New Topic: StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration [22:05] hmm, no StevenK [22:05] * NCommander just noticed [22:05] * NCommander will note ATM I'm half dead :-/ [22:06] can you ping him in the other channel ? [22:06] * ogra_ is in another machine atm [22:06] *on [22:06] ogra, he's /away ATM [22:06] But I pinged him [22:06] ah [22:07] [topic] HIgh priority bugs [22:07] New Topic: HIgh priority bugs [22:07] looks like most of the team is missing btw [22:07] * ogra_ doesnt see dyfet either [22:07] This is the right time for the IRC meeting, right? [22:08] * NCommander just wants to make sure he's not loosing it [22:08] yes [22:08] it didnt change according to my gcal [22:08] same here. [22:08] I pinged dyfet. [22:08] davidm, plars ? [22:08] ogra_: yes? [22:09] * ogra_ isnt sure persia is supposed to attend atm [22:09] plars, just checking who of us is actually here :) [22:09] Anyway, a heads up on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ports/+bug/373214 [22:09] ATM the armel kernel headers are completely hosed, so any build that needed the kernel headers will fail on armel, amd64, i386, lpia, and powerpc [22:09] Ubuntu bug 373214 in linux-ports "/usr/include/asm/* is not present in linux-libc-dev" [Critical,In progress] [22:09] thats totally not bound to armel as i understood [22:09] This bug is on cjwatson and on my plate, as well as members of the kernel team, but until its resolved, please expect any upload to fail on these architecture. [22:10] its broken on all arches [22:10] or not? [22:10] ogra_, ia64, sparc and hppa are unaffected [22:10] (aka, only the archs people use are affected :-)) [22:10] heh [22:10] It looks like its a bug in find in some very rare cirmstances [22:11] Oh, cjwatson isolated it, so it should be fixed soonish [22:11] great [22:11] NCommander: Not sure why specing ec2-package-builder is still on the agenda; it's registered for karmic [22:11] lool, its an action item, I just haven't scratched it yet [22:12] So that's pretty much all I have on bug and annoucements affecting the team. [22:12] on a sidenote we have a massive issue on armel with c++ it seems [22:12] ogra, ? [22:12] I'm here sorry [22:12] but afaik lamont is working on libstdc++ [22:12] ogra_, what's the issue? (I haven't heard anything) [22:13] ogra_: bug#? [22:13] totem, python-apt and some libgnome stuff ftbfs'ed [22:14] i talked with cjwatson about it, seems lamot is doing a build that fixes it atm ... i dont think there is a bug open for it [22:14] ogra_: the linux-libc-dev issue is probably going to be an issue for the libstdc++ thing, but yes, libstdc++ is actively on my list [22:14] on rimu there is a local build from doko if you need to testbuild any packages [22:15] lamont, do you think it will be solved in time for alpha1 (so we can build images) [22:15] ? [22:15] StevenK will be here shortly [22:15] currently livecd-rootfs fails [22:15] I just sent a patch to findutils upstream to fix the linux-libc-dev bug [22:15] it'll be fixed in Ubuntu as soon as I can manage it [22:15] cjwatson, yay, one down the list [22:15] cjwatson, +1 :-) [22:16] so we only have libstdc++ left ... [22:16] cjwatson: the expectation is that said bug will probably get in the way of libstdc++ - tell me that's happy and it'll definitely get time from me [22:16] hey StevenK [22:16] [topic] # StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration [22:16] New Topic: # StevenK to follow up with Tim on lpia kernel configuration [22:17] Please carry over, I think that should be discussed at UDS [22:17] lamont: (-> #ubuntu-devel) [22:18] fair enough [22:18] [topic] Specification Discussion [22:18] New Topic: Specification Discussion [22:18] if any :-P [22:19] Going once [22:19] Going twice [22:19] Going three times ... [22:19] [topic] Open Discussion [22:19] New Topic: Open Discussion [22:19] I think you can remove that from the agenda [22:19] Specification Discussion that is [22:20] davidm, I will when I write up the next weeks wiki pages [22:20] That works [22:20] No open discussion? [22:21] Ok ... [22:21] [topic] Any Other Business ... [22:21] New Topic: Any Other Business ... [22:21] doesnt look like [22:21] Nope [22:22] Well [22:22] good meeting! [22:22] I think we're about to set a record for fastest mobile meeting ever [22:22] Nah, we had one in 10 minutes once [22:22] heh [22:22] First one with the new format, if I recall [22:22] that was a while ago however [22:22] heh, well, i dont remember but i think the last pre-UDS ones were as short as well [22:23] Ok, I think we're done [22:23] We went from a meeting that took 70 minutes to 10, and we all went "WTF?" [22:23] Going once [22:23] yeah [22:23] twice [22:23] three times [22:24] And we're out of here! [22:24] Sold! [22:24] #endmeeting [22:24] Meeting finished at 16:24. [22:24] * StevenK coughs [22:24] who pays it ? [22:25] The bidder, we were just selling it [22:28] * ogra_ didnt see any hands up ... but NCommander sold it [22:28] ogra_, I dunno who to :-) [22:29] damned ... then you have to keep it and pay the storage costs :P [22:29] judging by the scroll log, I think it went to a silent bidder. [22:29] ah [22:30] these quiet guys buy the world :)