[00:23] Pizza. /away === Guest48422 is now known as jrib [01:08] Hm [01:08] !utf8 [01:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about utf8 [01:09] genii: probably isn't against the rules [01:09] Hehe, likely not. Just for me more annoying than "lol omfg wth" etc etc [01:09] heh [01:09] tell them to stop then :P [01:10] It will pas in a bit [01:52] gordonjcp called the ops in #ubuntu (``mEnEkS) [01:54] mattgyver is a regular, I doubt he messaged this guy. [01:56] ugh [01:56] Yup [01:57] I'm going to make some dinner (read: put pizza in the oven) [01:57] Hopefully this doesnt get out of hand. [01:57] I may ban ``mEnEks in a minute [01:57] The irc stuff, not the pizza. I think I can handle pizza. [01:57] :P [01:57] I should hope so [02:06] Geez. Is it a full moon out or something? [02:06] I was just thinking the same thing [02:07] don't tell me. [02:07] i have highlights. [02:08] The random comments aren't helping [02:08] I agree [02:08] me too [02:11] klownface is a troll [02:15] Seeker`: Thanks [02:15] np [02:16] genii: what client do you use? [02:16] Quassel [02:17] you have something equivalent to irssi's auto_bleh? [02:17] Nope [02:17] :/ [02:17] jussi uses quassel doesn't he? [02:17] Yup [02:17] ask him if he has any kick/ban scripts you can steal when he is around [02:19] my bots are going down [02:20] http://uop.pastebin.com/d3187d3c9 [02:21] genii: Pici ^ [02:22] Yeah that guy is just an idiot [02:23] genii: with a decent script, banning people is as simple as /abk [02:24] I had to recompile Quassel a lot lately and the scripts I had in it before get lost each time [02:25] If I'd known it was gonna be a full-moon evening I probably wouldn't have drank those 5 beers after work.... [02:25] hehe [02:28] that was fun [02:29] apparently "abgctf" would like to "joust" with me [02:29] That guy must be a pretty crappy programmer if his idea of logic is what he's currently doing [02:30] sadly logic != social skills [02:30] also, most people aren't as logical as they claim to be [02:30] You have somewhat of a point [02:31] the number of people that you can have a logical argument /discussion with is rather disappointing actually [02:32] most people make an attempt, start to fall back on logical fallacies to prove their point, then just resort to "I'm right, you're wrong" [02:41] Well, time for me to get out of here and get some rest. Night [02:42] seeya [02:56] monestri: how can we hlep you? [03:02] monestri: please don't idle in here [03:02] :( [03:02] i wanted to feel spehcial [03:11] I'm out [03:11] nn [03:26] In #ubuntu-offtopic, pokethesmot said: !smot is Simple Magnetic Overunity Toy [05:00] hey [06:56] phix: hello [06:57] phix: what's up? [06:59] phix: you've been asked not to idle here yet you've been sat here for over an hour and a half - do you want/need something ? [07:04] jussi01: Myrtti tsimpson Pici ^^ can you remove this guy when you get chance, it's getting an old routine now [07:04] nice service ! [07:05] time to get ready for work then [07:05] * jussi01 should go to work.... [07:05] yes yes [07:06] ikonia: did you get time to make a vid yet? [07:07] still waiting for my "sony" firewire cable, I can't get anything off without it [07:07] why sony use their own connection.....I'll never know [07:08] heh [07:08] right, must get dressed, back on in an hour or so [07:08] later [09:39] * ikonia returns [09:40] ikonia: morning. [09:40] good morning [09:52] OK, why is update-manager trying to run a dist-upgrade on my machine? [09:55] is it trying to update to 9.04 ? [09:56] already running that - it's asking to do a partial upgrade [09:57] ooh [09:57] * Madpilot is not impressed with the handling up updates in 9.04... 8.10 worked nicely, but the new treatment of update-notifier is silly [09:58] s/up/of [09:58] going to ignore it for now, see if it sorts itself out tomorrow... [09:58] I have been toying with taking my laptop up to 9.04 but 8.10 is just too solid to not use for work [10:00] aside from the upgrade handling, 9.04 has actually been better here than 8.10 was. a few niggling little quirks have vanished [10:00] I have an intel card in my laptop so I'm sitting back waiting for core issues to be solidly fixed [10:00] I've heard there's been a few Intel graphic card issues [10:01] ironic that 9.04 finally saw my ATI card fully supported (finally!) by the FLOSS drivers :) [10:01] Madpilot: quite a lot of serious issues actually [10:04] intel's always been the go-to graphics chipset for Linux goodness, up until now. [10:04] I've spent whole releases (Dapper, dammit) with no working 3d accel on my ATI, but now it Just Works [10:09] Madpilot, my eeepc701 for example, especially considering UNR is either composite or nothing. of course, eeepc701s are rare and stuff ;) [10:09] I thought unr used metacity? [10:10] not for the launcher [10:10] ah [10:10] it has blingy little animations. which use clutter. [10:10] * Madpilot had an opportunity to buy an as-new Dell Mini9 for only $300... but doesn't have a spare $300... [10:10] it's functional. but not usable. [10:11] not cool [10:12] i'm ok for cash at the moment. just bought a really nice new laptop that should be fairly future-proofed. [10:13] dual core, 4gb ram, 9cell battery. [10:14] sweet. I upped this desktop to near it's max last fall, but would like to get a netbook for work & coffee shops [10:16] i'm looking to upgrade to a future-safe desktop too. ya know, quad core, as much ram as i can, 2-4 screen capacity [10:17] now's the perfect time, while prices are low to try get people spending again. [10:18] i was going to start looking for a mortgage, but i think i might leave that another year. [10:18] pity I'm the brokest I've been in a decade :( [10:18] aww [10:18] this old 32bit desktop will do for another year or two. Brand-new 500GB HDD means I won't run out of space, anyway [10:19] and 3GB of RAM + swap means the CPU is the chokepoint now, but it'll still run 6 desktops full of stuff w/o complaining [10:20] yesterday I had Epiphany, XChat, Nautilus x2, Inkscape, GIMP & OOo Writer x2 all open, and it was still responsive. Go GNOME & aggressive Linux RAM use! [10:20] yeah. try that in That Other OS. [10:21] i mean, with it's common equivalents [10:21] the XP machine at work starts to choke after about the 5th Firefox tab, with only two other apps running... [10:22] hell, try that with Photoshop/Illustrator on vista. I guarantee tears. [10:22] and it's actually a much, much newer machine than mine. Except it sucks, and mine doesn't... [10:23] i had to upgrade my laptop because my old one was/is not healthy [10:23] i know someone with the same make, so i'll donate it to them for parts. they'll have a second half-hour battery. [10:24] my brother's old lappy is down to about 12 minutes of battery life, apparently. When it wakes up at all. [10:24] yeah, the big bugbear for the old one was that it'd heat up bad and slow to a crawl. a reboot would fix it... but the reboot took an hour as it had to cool down before it'd come back up. [10:25] and his new one has Vista and some oddball partitioning scheme he hasnt figured out yet. So it's UNR on liveUSB for him for now. [10:25] UNR.....spreading thing [10:25] thin [10:40] !ar [10:40] La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe [10:40] rats [10:40] !arrrrr [10:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about arrrrr [10:40] ha [10:41] when is Speak Like A Pirate Day, anyway? we need to get the bot trained up [10:41] looking for an Arabic tell for the guy on #u? [10:41] please don't, I can see the botabuse now [10:41] Madpilot: got it [10:43] Madpilot, same day as software freedom day :-/ [10:43] Bonus! [10:43] Speak Like A Free Software Pirate Day! [10:43] or something [10:43] the concept might need some work [10:44] the president of SFI thinks it's a great that it's on the same day and wants to incorporate the two somehow. i dont predict a happy ending [10:45] no [10:45] nice way to give something credability - mess around [10:46] "Use Linux! Make Windows Walk The Plank!" [12:58] Talk like a pirate day is September 17th [13:01] you sure? [13:01] http://www.talklikeapirateday.com/ [13:01] oh [13:01] I was close :) [13:02] Its correct on my calendar, I was just guessing. [13:09] :P [13:51] KZKG^Gaara: hello [13:51] Hi [13:51] how can we help ? [13:51] "You were redirected here because a lot of spam comes from your ISP" [13:51] What this all about? [13:52] KZKG^Gaara: you where directed to this channel or #ubuntu-proxy-users ? [13:52] To #ubuntu-graylist [13:53] ahh ok, [13:53] so basiclly the ISP you're using is famous as a spam host ISP - so it's banned from the channels you have to have an exception put in place to use #ubuntu [13:54] what channel do you want to gain access to ? [13:54] Yeah I understand that but... this is not my foul; somebody can help me? [13:55] KZKG^Gaara: yes, we are here to help, what channel do you want to get into ? [13:56] #ubuntu-es & #ubuntu-es-offtopic (if i was banned in this second too) [13:56] KZKG^Gaara: one moment [13:57] ok no problem [14:01] just trying to get hold of one of the ubuntu-es ops for you now, if you join #ubuntu-irc you'll be able to see when one of them comes on line [14:02] the problem is that I don´t remember the nicks of the ops of ubuntu-es [14:03] if you join #ubuntu-irc you'll see me asking [14:04] ooh yeah see you now xD [14:04] KZKG^Gaara: ok, so if you leave here and work it through in #ubuntu-irc you'll be fine [14:04] Ok thanks for all [14:04] By the way... sorry for my english [14:05] no problem [14:05] Bye and thanks again [14:45] * genii brews a fresh pot of coffee for everyone [14:49] @time helsinki [14:49] @login [14:49] The operation succeeded. [15:06] @now helsinki [15:06] hrm... is that still turned off... [15:06] thought tsimpson fixed it [15:14] ubottu: load Stuff [15:14] The operation succeeded. [15:14] Sorry, I don't know anything about load Stuff [15:14] @now [15:14] Current time in Etc/UTC: May 07 2009, 14:14:13 [15:14] @now helsinki [15:14] Current time in Europe/Helsinki: May 07 2009, 17:14:26 [15:15] @now Taipei [15:15] @login [15:15] The operation succeeded. [15:15] @now Taipei [15:15] Current time in Asia/Taipei: May 07 2009, 22:15:18 [15:20] Weird that ubottu says "the operation succeeded", then right after knows nothing about "Stuff" [15:43] gartral called the ops in #ubuntu () [15:44] Handled [15:45] he logged into two accounts [15:45] Morning.. Here anyhow [15:45] hi :) [15:50] /away for a bit [15:58] ikonia/everyone: Please make sure that your bans do not have pipes in them. They are not escaped by the floodbots when it does ban checking and treats them as regex ORs. [15:58] Pici: did I hit a | [15:58] i.e: *!*|?=uk@121* [15:58] yeah, just seen Jack_Sparrow corrected it [15:58] Pici: thanks [15:58] Jack_Sparrow: thanks also [15:59] pronoy, hi [15:59] no he didn't, I'll fix now [15:59] pronoy: Whats up, how can we help you today? [15:59] ikonia: I removed it. [15:59] Pici: oh man.....wrong channel...sorry [15:59] :D [16:00] Sorry, did I do something.. wrong [16:00] Jack_Sparrow: no, I thought you had fixed something I did wrong [16:00] Pici: corrected now [16:01] ty [16:03] pronoy: what's going on ? [16:03] sorry to bother i do have a question [16:04] the channel ops .... what does +o mean ? [16:04] and how many types of modes are there ? [16:04] it means grant operator status on that user [16:04] !modes [16:04] There are many different channel and user modes on !freenode. Here's a list: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml [16:04] ok..thank you Pici ......sorry to bother ikonia [16:05] okay then. [16:12] Hm... was there a disconnect from this nick? [16:16] ( I came back to the computer to find client disconnected but other stuff here using the connection was still going... wondering if jussi's machine is going up/down again, it would disconnect and our nicks would likely timeout or so) [16:17] genii, not since you said /away for a bit [16:17] bazhang: OK, thanks. Something local then, looks like [16:17] * genii investigates [16:41] can i get unbanned from the ubuntu offtopic channel, really, im a nice girl [16:41] it was just a ridiculous moment of my life [16:41] i <3 ubuntu [16:41] it was ages ago, also [16:42] * genii prods at Pici [16:43] screamsayonara: The op responsible isn't currently available. Please try again later. [16:44] ok... vielen dank [16:48] "danke" [16:48] but ... whatever ... [17:46] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [17:46] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [17:46] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [18:08] time to clear old bans. the banlist is full. [18:34] In #kubuntu, hidensoft said: ubottu: problem is not xampp [18:35] In ubottu, hidensoft said: problem is not xampp friend [18:36] hidensoft: how can we help you? [18:37] i can't access to some folder [18:38] hidensoft: this isn't a support channel [18:38] is this ? [18:39] hidensoft: You're already getting support in #kubuntu. I told you ubottu was a bot after you messaged it, you can ignore what it said to you. [18:40] aha [18:40] ok [18:40] i'm sorry [18:41] hidensoft: if you don;t have any operator related questions, please leave this channel [18:41] ok === juliux is now known as juliux_HSV [20:07] @login [20:07] The operation succeeded. [20:10] * genii-around gargles down a coffee [20:11] wb [20:12] Give me a minute, need to do the ol switcheroo again here... [20:13] * genii sips [20:42] good evening [20:44] o/ [20:44] ikonia: Hello [20:44] howdy [20:57] DrDerek called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (deany) [21:05] deany again [21:05] what else has he done? [21:06] normally just mouthy [21:25] hi [21:26] runny nose and sore throat sucks === juliux_HSV is now known as juliux [21:27] swine flu? [21:27] ha... ha... ha [21:29] dont you mean "oink oink oink"? [21:30] lol [21:34] hmm, tell DrDerek to stop or not? [21:36] Seeker`: not impressed as I mentioned the topic less than 5 minutes ago [21:37] I don't understand why people need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic when they are in ##club-ubuntu as club-ubuntu is basiclly ubuntu offtopic with swearing allowed [21:37] * jussi01 waves to ikonia [21:37] hello [22:00] * jussi01 pms ikonia [22:08] modmadmike: hi, thanks for joining, I wanted to have a chat with you outside the main content of the ubuntu channel [22:09] modmadmike: I'm getting the impression (maybe wrongly) you are quite new to ubuntu or linux in general, is that true ? [22:10] nope used linux for the past 9 years with mandrake linux 7 [22:10] really ? [22:10] as my first [22:10] yes [22:10] the reason I'm asking is some of the info you're giving out is a little questionable and random [22:11] lol [22:11] I basiclly wanted to ask you to consider what you're offering to people as advice as people have all ranges in the channel [22:11] (which I didn't want to ask in the main channel) [22:12] then explain why in 8.04 the HDA intel driver worked in the generic kernel but not the server kernel [22:12] modmadmike: I can't without research, [22:12] when it first came out that is [22:12] modmadmike: but saying the server kernel has better sound support with no subastance is crazy [22:12] modmadmike: and that wasn't the only comment - hence why I'm asking you to just consider what your telling the users [22:13] the kernels manage device drivers differently sometimes i have had better support in the server kernel somtimes with the generic [22:13] modmadmike: they don't, they are the same base kernel [22:13] modmadmike: recommending a server kernel to desktop users in a main support channel is not a good idea. [22:14] but as I said, that wasn't th eonly point I was bringing up - that was just one example [22:14] and what are your other examples [22:15] intel drivers are poor [22:15] compile vmware [22:15] I can go through the logs if you want [22:15] i don;t use vmware so i would not know [22:15] helping is great, I'm just asking you consider what you say to people [22:15] modmadmike: so if you don't know - why say something [22:15] modmadmike: just ignore the question and let someone who does know answer it [22:15] blind help can cause more damage [22:16] that doesn't mean lose the enthusiasm, just don't be afraid of not answering if you don't know [22:17] I have to leave to go fishing | i wont give blind support anymore ok [22:17] and think that your experience may not be the norm, so if you don't have good luck with intel video drivers, that doesn't make them "rubbish" - it just means you've had a problem (they may well be bad too) just a little more though t [22:17] modmadmike: and using "lol" as punctuation immediately makes experienced people think "i have t-shirts older than this guy" ;) [22:17] modmadmike: thanks for popping in, I won't keep you from your fishing, just food for thought [22:18] ok [22:18] ikonia: fish food? [22:18] he wasn't paying any attention to that, but it was worth a go [22:18] * ikonia ignores mez's pun [22:18] :'( [22:19] do better.... [22:19] * Mez sticks tongue out @ ikonia [22:19] thank you [22:21] * mneptok can smell the freshly baked H1N1 [22:21] Mmmmmm... tasty piggies. [22:21] ojnk [22:22] is that how engineers say what mathematicians call "oink" [22:22] mneptok: I smell freshly baked c21h30o2 [22:23] criheoor? [22:39] what did we decide about 4chan? [22:42] hello.. can someone have a look at HardCockOnCam in #ubuntu.. he's being kind of annoying, besides the name [22:43] already left [22:43] indeed.. nevermind then =) [22:43] if you see someone with such a blatently wrong nickname, feel free to use the ops factoid [22:43] ok, will do [22:43] * Flannel already tried to remove him, discovered that he wasn't identified. [22:43] thanks [22:46] hmm, what should I have on hilight [22:46] puppies [22:47] "HardCockOnCam." that nick is proof enough that free wifi at truck stops is a Bad Idea(tm) [22:48] ha ha [22:48] Thats proof that people need to pass a test before they can use the internet :P [23:23] hey [23:23] hello [23:24] Would you be a pal and remove the ban for me? :) [23:24] phix: I don't think it's appropriate personally, and I've read the others comments which seem to lean on it not being removed at the moment so I don't think it would be a good move for me to remove it with them not around [23:25] I believe it was Pici who banned you initially (I've not checked) [23:25] ok [23:25] I don't mind waiting [23:25] well as you've been told this is a no idle channel [23:26] I'll check on who banned you, one moment [23:26] true [23:26] can you make any suggestions for a ubuntu related channel I can idle in? [23:26] ok [23:26] no [23:27] I've just checked and you've been banned from multiple channels by multiple people [23:27] yup [23:27] was a good night :) [23:27] ok - so I think you need to leave now [23:27] oh [23:28] ok, cya later ikonia, thank you for your assistance [23:28] bye [23:28] @mark #ubuntu-ops phix crappy attitude again towards getting the multiple bans removed [23:28] The operation succeeded. [23:29] a good night? [23:30] that comment is a near guarantee he will start trolling again as soon as unbanned. [23:30] he's in #ubuntu-irc now, I'm just trying to guide him out [23:46] entraide-net: how can we help you? [23:46] yep 1 min please [23:48] can you give me an idea how to get easily the most used packages , tutorials , websites , tips and tricks for ubuntu ... I wanna make a big all-in-one tutorial for beginners to help them but I wanna include stuff for average and professionnals users ... [23:48] I think the forum could help but ... [23:49] It's not every ubuntu users that goes there ... [23:49] isn't that what http://wiki.ubuntu.com [23:51] It's good but an easy tutorial as a backup tip as I personnaly use many websites when I reinstall ... I would make it simple in a all in one tutorial [23:51] you'll just have to search the net I guess [23:52] this channel isn't really for this sort of discussion, its for channel operator questions [23:53] sorry I was thinking if you give me a little idea the best would be the forum I guess [23:53] bye [23:53] * genii slurps a coffee [23:53] o/ [23:54] Hi Seeker`