[00:00] <afeijo> I found out that I can change all sources.list file to point to http://br..., so it will get files from my country :)
[00:00] <afeijo> ops, usb-creator couldn't format my usb drive
[00:00] <afeijo> fdisk?
[00:01] <afeijo> I'll try with another usb
[00:01] <xjjk> afeijo: er, you're using an unformatted usb drive?
[00:02] <wirechief> afeijo are you trying to make a usb startup disk with usb-creator ?
[00:02] <afeijo> I did try with a usb that isnt that good, lol. The other one is working
[00:02] <afeijo> wirechief: yes
[00:03] <afeijo> copying files... 30%
[00:03] <wirechief> afeijo you need a couple more files associated with it
[00:03] <afeijo> wirechief: its all working now
[00:03] <sebr> hey dudes, i just updated to jaunty, and kwin/plasma doesn't seem to respond to shortcuts
[00:03] <sebr> alt-f2 doesn't work, ctrl-f1/f2/f3/f4 etc
[00:04] <wirechief> afeijo well if you reboot with it and you get only a initramfs fs with busy box you will know you need these lupin-casper and ubiquity-casper too
[00:05] <afeijo> wirechief: argh, what do I need to do them?
[00:05] <wirechief> apt-get install  them
[00:05] <wirechief> do before making a usb stick
[00:06] <afeijo> install where? I'm using livecd, I need the live usb to burn with my cd drive
[00:06] <xjjk> wirechief: er, you do NOT need to do any of that with usb-creator
[00:06] <wirechief> this is because they didnt make the RC and only on the final were they made
[00:06] <afeijo> well, usb-creator told me to reboot, I will try it ...
[00:06] <wirechief> xjjk if you have the final you do not need them, only before it.
[00:07] <sebr> i think i found the culprit
[00:07] <sebr> Failed to contact the KDE global shortcuts daemon
[00:07] <sebr> Message: Could not get owner of name 'org.kde.kded': no such name
[00:07] <sebr> Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner
[00:07] <xjjk> wirechief: OK, though I don't see why
[00:07] <xjjk> wirechief: you're implying they released CD images that didn't boot
[00:07] <afeijo> TTYL
[00:07] <wirechief> xjjk if it works then you wont need to know but if doesnt then you will
[00:07] <wirechief> xjjk  the files were not in the RC but were in the final
[00:08] <david__> is there any other way to open rar files other than arc?
[00:08] <wirechief> xjjk there is a bug filed on it.
[00:08] <xjjk> david__: what version are you using
[00:09] <david__> xjjk watever one comes with jaunty
[00:09] <wirechief> xjjk there is a bug filed on it. bug 2766822
[00:09] <xjjk> david: did you install rar, unrar, or unrar-free?
[00:09] <xjjk> wirechief: thanks
[00:09] <david__> xjjk yes
[00:09] <wirechief> oops
[00:09] <wirechief> bug 276822
[00:10] <xjjk> david__: AFAIK that's all you need to do
[00:10] <wirechief> xjjk   sorry its bug 276822
[00:10] <david__> xjjk yes well its not working
[00:11] <xjjk> david__: mm, I'm not sure
[00:13] <wirechief> xjjk another way to find out if you need those files is just dpkg  -l lupin-casper    or ubiquity-casper
[00:13] <wirechief> dam
[00:13] <wirechief> xjjk dpkg -l |grep lupin-casper or ubiquity-casper
[00:14] <xjjk> wirechief: interesting, OK
[00:14] <xjjk> I've not had problems
[00:14] <wirechief> xjjk you wont if you have those along with casper
[00:18] <afeijo> you can all call me very stupid. I have a notebook to burn the kubuntu 9.04 iso
[00:18] <afeijo> the usb didnt work, btw
[00:18] <xjjk> afeijo: blah.... what happened
[00:19] <afeijo> xjjk: my computer didnt find it bootable
[00:19] <xjjk> afeijo: are you sure you have your computer configured properly
[00:19] <xjjk> setting to boot from USB key can be tricky
[00:19] <afeijo> I did selected usb, yes
[00:19] <afeijo> F10 load the boot drive option
[00:19] <xjjk> the name of your USB key appeared there?
[00:20] <afeijo> but this is now secondary, I'm burning the CD with my kubuntu note :)
[00:20] <afeijo> yes, it was KingstonTrav
[00:20] <afeijo> I hope I can manage to install kubuntu 9 in my desktop HD without losing my data :)
[00:21] <NickPresta> afeijo: you should always back up first if you're concerned :)
[00:21] <afeijo> my plan is to set the /home to the temp partition I will use, than I move it away and mount the current /home
[00:21] <afeijo> NickPresta: I did cp -a /home and /etc to my new 1tb disk
[00:21] <afeijo> any other folder should I copy?
[00:23] <NickPresta> afeijo: it depends what you want to back up. /home and /etc should be fine
[00:23] <afeijo> y
[00:23] <NickPresta> afeijo: why what?
[00:24] <genii> afeijo: /home contains your user files. /etc contains program configuration settings
[00:24] <NickPresta> hey genii
[00:24] <afeijo> oh I copy /etc too
[00:24] <genii> NickPresta: Hiya
[00:33] <afeijo> damn, 1h15m to repartition :(
[00:44] <afeijo> how to update my livecd codecs ?
[00:45] <genii> afeijo: Lucky. Sometimes it takes upwards of 2 days to rebuild my raid
[00:45] <afeijo> 2 days ??? lol
[00:45] <afeijo> I dont use raid
[00:48] <afeijo> do you guys now in what repository I can find w32codecs ?
[00:48] <afeijo> to Hardy
[00:50] <afeijo> no public key ?? whats that?
[00:52] <the1corrupted> Hello everyone....
[00:52] <afeijo> what happened here? netsplit?
[00:52] <the1corrupted> I was wondering if I could get help with a couple issues?
[00:53] <afeijo> !ask
[00:57] <the1corrupted> Thanks.  Alright, before I got on, my WLan was bugging out and I had to restart the system and fiddle with it to get it working again.  Is there a work-around so I can reset the WLan and get the same effect? -- Question 2:  My flash player suddenly exploded after I change something to do with Pulse Audio.  Originally, I had flash video without sound, now after (I believe asoundconf or something of the like) was executed,
[00:57] <the1corrupted>  have no sound OR video...  I also have the flash nonfree plugin but it still doesn't work.
[00:57] <afeijo> try to reinstall flash nonfree
[00:58] <the1corrupted> Should I uninstall the original flash too?
[00:59] <afeijo> remove it all, than reinstall flash with: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:59] <afeijo> use apt-cache to find what flash you have installed
[01:02] <vbgunz> does anyone know of a command I can use from a *live-cd* that will dump diagnostic information about the host computer? I am mainly interested in how many drives and total size of data per drive. can someone help me out here?
[01:04] <the1corrupted> Thanks for your help.  That worked.
[01:06] <afeijo> the1corrupted: great!
[01:06] <afeijo> I finally give some back, lol
[01:06] <afeijo> vbgunz: df -h?
[01:06] <peaches> ok people google earth has ugly small fonts out of the box on kubuntu even with msttfonts installed. wth
[01:07] <afeijo> vbgunz: you may want to mount all your disk first, with dolphin
[01:08] <the1corrupted> Now for another issue that just came up.  Despite the fact my sound continues to work, I'm getting a repeated error about some device not working, and it's the same one every time.  (HDA ATI SB (Conexant Analog)).  I'm just wondering what the deal is with this thing...
[01:08] <vbgunz> afeijo: thats not what I am looking for... man, there is something else that dumps everything about the computer to stdout. I cannot find it :(
[01:09] <genii> vbgunz: sudo lshw -vv
[01:10] <vbgunz> genii: yeah, I think thats it
[01:10] <genii> vbgunz: Thats for everything on your box. If you want just HD info, probably you want something more like: sudo fdisk -l
[01:10] <vbgunz> the -vv option doesn't work though
[01:10] <vbgunz> I assume that should have been a bit more verbose
[01:11] <afeijo> lshw -short
[01:11] <genii> vbgunz: Yes... without any verbosity it shows a lot however.
[01:11] <vbgunz> genii: yeah thats cool right there
[01:12] <vbgunz> sudo fdisk -l works from the live-cd too? I can try... I just need someone to pass this information to me. they know nothing about Kubuntu and have no internet connection to boot. family phone support :)
[01:14] <vbgunz> genii: you saved the day on that one... thanks!
[01:14] <genii> vbgunz: np
[01:17] <djprofessork> i dont understand how to regisster my nickname can anyone help>
[01:17] <djprofessork> ?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> !register
[01:17] <afeijo> djprofessork: type /nickserv help
[01:17] <djprofessork> thank you guys
[01:18] <djprofessork> so do i type
[01:18] <djprofessork> #
[01:18] <djprofessork>     /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[01:18] <djprofessork> into this place?
[01:18] <afeijo> yes
[01:18] <djprofessork> i tried and it told me my email was invalid
[01:18] <djprofessork> hold up...
[01:18] <afeijo> use a valid email :p
[01:18] <djprofessork> lol
[01:19] <djprofessork> lol why isnt it valid
[01:19] <djprofessork> this isn't cool
[01:19] <afeijo> weird !
[01:20] <afeijo> you password dont have space, right?
[01:20] <djprofessork> nope
[01:20] <djprofessork> all letters and numbers
[01:20] <afeijo> I did that to register mine last year, no problems
[01:21] <djprofessork> is it gmail
[01:21] <afeijo> yes
[01:22] <winter_> so... i've got kubuntu up and running, but no audio
[01:22] <winter_> (or really, what i should say is: when i go into system settings/multimedia and hit "test" i get audio, but nowhere else it appears)
[01:22] <djprofessork> so now @yahoo @live.com and @rit.edu wont work
[01:22] <djprofessork> i tried all three emails
[01:23] <afeijo> djprofessork: try on the #freenode channel, there is irc experts there
[01:23] <will_> t
[01:23] <djprofessork> thanks
[01:36] <kyle__> is it illegal to sell kubuntu disks for large amount of money?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> any amount of money
[01:36] <kyle__> alright kewl
[01:37] <peaches> it's not illegal
[01:37] <kyle__> im going to make 600 bucks off some dumn kids lol
[01:39] <peaches> saw some youtube video some kid got a lot of uubuntu cds sent to him and he smashed them all
[01:40] <afeijo> can google maps works offline?
[01:43] <djprofessork> is there a reason i cant see anyone typing on a channel with 200+ people?
[01:47] <afeijo> djprofessork: netsplit my guess
[01:48] <kyle__> kubuntu is way easier to figure out then ubuntu
[01:48] <kyle__> im amazed
[01:48] <djprofessork> lies lol
[01:48] <djprofessork> damn lies
[01:49] <kyle__> lol
[01:51] <st23am> what is the default shortcut key to switch desktops?
[01:54] <st23am> is there a default shortcut key?
[01:55] <kyle__> not that i know of
[01:55] <xjjk> st23am: control + alt + left or right, I think?
[01:56] <st23am> xjjk: that works in gnome but not kde4.2
[01:56] <subcool> can anyone suggest a good burner program? i dont like wasting my CD-Rs
[01:57] <kyle__> ahead nero
[01:57] <subcool> for ubuntu?
[01:57] <xjjk> st23am: hrm, OK... it works on my KDE3 desktop
[01:57] <xjjk> st23am: you can check by looking in system settings
[01:57] <xjjk> there's a control panel applet that lets you change associated keys
[01:57] <kyle__> google for packages im not to sure
[01:57] <st23am> xjjk: ya I cant find a setting for it in system settings :(
[01:57] <xjjk> st23am: OK, let me look
[01:57] <subcool> i cant get any program
[01:58] <subcool> i cant waste cd's i only have like 3
[01:58] <kyle__> k3b the default one you get on the disk works fine
[01:58] <subcool> anyone have anything they can suggest?
[01:59] <st23am> k3b should work fine kyle__:
[01:59] <st23am> er subcool:
[01:59] <xjjk> st23am: apparently I have nothing set
[01:59] <xjjk> st23am: go to systemsettings, the Keyboard & Mouse applet
[01:59] <xjjk> and pick the last section, Global Keyboard Shortcuts, select Kwin
[01:59] <xjjk> search for "desktop"
[02:00] <st23am> ah thats what I was missing thanks xjjk: (new to KDE )
[02:01] <st23am> for anyone who cares the default in kde 4.2 is ctrl+f1-*
[02:01] <xjjk> st23am: there is a keybinding slot availab efor next/previous desktop
[02:01] <xjjk> I set it to control+alt+left and right personally
[02:01] <xjjk> kde3.x and gnome-compatible
[02:02] <st23am> cool thanks xjjk:
[02:04] <kyle__> man kubuntu game selection makes Vista look good
[02:07] <st23am> the default install sure. Look in the repo there are plenty
[02:08] <kyle__> a bunch of 2d knock offs
[02:08] <kyle__> you find anything good?
[02:09] <st23am> define good
[02:09] <st23am> there are a few 3d first person shooters
[02:09] <st23am> nexeus I think is a good one (like quake 3)
[02:09] <kyle__> yeh there all right
[02:09] <st23am> also kyle__: alot of games will run under wine
[02:09] <kyle__> i like a good single player
[02:10] <st23am> personally I play team fortress 2 and WOW in wine
[02:10] <kyle__> im just lookin at the free ware
[02:10] <st23am> hmm kyle__: good single player 3d hmm
[02:11] <st23am> kyle__: its not "freeware" but world of goo is fun (indy game only costs a few bucks)
[02:12] <kyle__> world of goo is good i have on my XP
[02:13] <st23am> ah it has a linux version but ya same game
[02:13] <st23am> I believe Gabe & Tyco from penny-arcade have a linux version of OTRSPOD
[02:15] <kyle__> OTRSPOD is that the full name of the game?
[02:15] <st23am> kyle__: On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness
[02:16] <st23am> kyle__: www.rainslick.com
[02:16] <kyle__> ill check it out
[02:17] <kyle__> doesnt look half bad
[02:18] <st23am> kyle__: there are alot more linux games out there. Google more when your bored :P
[02:19] <kyle__> sounds like thats the rest of my night lol
[02:22] <subcool> st23am: K- ill give it a whirl. THanks.
[02:22] <winter_> where's a good kubuntu audio howto?
[02:25] <shameer> yo
[02:25] <shameer> whats going on here ppl
[02:25] <levmatta> hello all
[02:26] <Zapata> yo
[02:26] <Zapata> how are we doing tonite all
[02:26] <Zapata> NY in the house
[02:26] <PSiL0> does anyone know if kde 4.2.3 will come to intrepid?
[02:27] <Zapata> thats like sign language to me
[02:28] <kyle__> i thought it was chinese
[02:29] <p_quarles> PSiL0: did the kubuntu-members repository not package it for intrepid?
[02:29] <PSiL0> p_quarles: currently, the repository only lists jaunty :(
[02:30] <PSiL0> p_quarles: I would have updated to jaunty if I had an nvidia chip rather than an ati chip in my 1.5 year old laptop
[02:30] <p_quarles> PSiL0: yes, I guess it would be complicated by the need for Qt4.5; I'd imagine it will show up eventually though
[02:31] <PSiL0> p_quarles: ahhh, I thought kde 4.3 was going to make the qt4.5 jump
[02:35] <Zapata> anyone knows whats a good free chat server I can install on Ubuntu?
[02:35] <Zapata> something other than Jaber
[02:36] <tsimpson> !im
[02:36] <Zapata> is this just a client?
[02:36] <Zapata> need server
[02:36] <tsimpson> you want to install a chat server?
[02:36] <Zapata> yep
[02:39] <tsimpson> probably only choice is jabber or IRC, or write your own
[02:43] <genii> Zapata: You might find some java chat servers someplace but I'd go with jabber, myself
[02:51] <kyle__> where do i find and edit startup programs
[02:54] <digdeep> kyle__: System Settings->Advanced->Autostart (It is there, but it doesn't work for me somehow :-D)
[02:55] <kyle__> thanks
[03:02] <loud-loud> hi guys, how can i show 'Computer' and 'Trash' icons on desktop?
[03:05] <loud-loud> hi guys, how can i show 'Computer' and 'Trash' icons on desktop?
[03:06] <Zapata> thank U genii
[03:06] <genii> Zapata: You're welcome. Did you make some decision yet on a chat server software?
[03:07] <Zapata> yep, I am installing Jab now, but it requires some sunjava5-jdk, but i get some dependenc error while installing it
[03:08] <ahmos> hi, i want to mount ntfs paritions at boot time with read write support,so any help
[03:08] <Zapata> I have to check what the dependencies are
[03:30] <m_tadeu__> does anyone here know how to use kplato?
[03:30] <Zapata> later all
[03:30] <Zapata> have to take nap
[03:48] <Guest23133> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04. How would I go about installing KDE 3.5 onto it?
[03:48] <tsimpson> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[03:55] <Guest23133> tsimpson: That page doesnt say anything about installing kde3.5 on 9.04, it just links to cd images.
[03:56] <ramon> Hi all, does anybody know the best p2p program???
[03:57] <Guest23133> !KDE3
[03:58] <ramon> anybody?
[03:59] <ramon> !p2p
[04:03] <ramon> could anybody help me?
[04:04] <genii> !info ktorrent
[04:04] <genii> ramon: See above
[04:04] <ramon> mm right...thankx a lot
[04:29] <mattgyver> It seems samba might not be making a connection on boot my log.smbd shows this error 'ERROR: Could not determine network interfaces, you must use a interfaces config line' how can i fix this?
[04:33] <genii> mattgyver: Put into smb.conf something like interfaces = eth1 or whicever one you want it to use, in the global section.
[04:33]  * genii sips
[04:34] <mattgyver> genii, i use eth0, or wlan0 to connect.  When i added just one or the other and uncomment the interfaces line the os wont boot
[04:34] <mattgyver> it fails on starting samba service.  should i not be removing the ; from in front of interfaces?
[04:36] <genii> mattgyver: Thats the idea yes. If you want it to use both, put something like      interfaces = eth0, wlan0
[04:36] <mattgyver> Okay, ill try it again to make sure im not a dummy
[04:36] <genii> mattgyver: How uncommenting a samba config variable would make your operating system unbootable is somewhat of a mystery
[04:37] <mattgyver> Yeah its wierd.  But happens.
[04:37] <tomsdale> sound sucks on linux!!! ahhhhh
[04:37] <genii> tomsdale: I agree. Luckily i don't care if my box has music.
[04:37] <mattgyver> Let me try this again.
[04:38] <Crash1hd> Can someone tell me if this sounds right.  I have a 1Tb Drive and I installed windows xp pro (pre sp1) onto the first 20 gigs of the drive xp pro only saw the first 120gigs of the drive.  I rebooted had no problem didnt do any service pack updates installed ubuntu which filled up the rest of the drives with ext3 rebooted into windows and got a blue screen with this unmountable boot volume now all my partitions are corrupted comple
[04:38] <Crash1hd> tly? does this make sense to anyone?
[04:40] <tomsdale> genii: I just think thouse countless hours of development time who must have gone into pulse alsa and what not and it just gets worst
[04:41] <genii> tomsdale: I've given up for the time being to get my Intel HDA behaving
[04:41] <mattgyver> genii; yeah, after adding it it drops the boot loading screen and shows; Configuring network interfaces... [fail], and hangs @ Starting Samba daemons
[04:41] <tomsdale> genii: and at the same time so many gifted linux programmers are real music freaks at the same time -
[04:42] <tomsdale> how can this happened that they abandoned (or overengeneered) this important aspect
[04:42] <genii> mattgyver: Just hit ctrl-c  at that point to abort samba daemon
[04:42] <mattgyver> ok
[04:42] <mattgyver> genii; that didnt do anything :(
[04:43] <genii> mattgyver: It will eventually timeout. Might be a while though
[04:43] <mattgyver> Ive done this before though so i can just load into terminal and change back over to my backup smb though
[04:43] <mattgyver> smb.conf*
[04:43] <mattgyver> I dont know why it does this..Doesnt make any sense to me.
[04:44] <judgen> hmm i got no sound in jaunty..
[04:44] <mattgyver> i can undersand the hang.  But after boot, if i restart the samba service, all works again
[04:44] <tomsdale> well, not really pissed off - just talking my mind. Happy that I can listen to some smooth Jimmy Rainey after shutting down my development virtualbox
[04:44] <mattgyver> Then i can browse my network shares on that machine.
[04:44] <genii> mattgyver: Maybe run the:  testparm     to check the syntax in the smb.conf
[04:44] <Crash1hd> geek_: do you know why the first 2 partitions on my system are green inside TestDisk? after testing
[04:45] <geek_> "green" ?
[04:45] <Crash1hd> yeah the rest are white
[04:45]  * geek_ dosen't recall teskdisk having a gui
[04:45] <Crash1hd> in terminal
[04:45] <Crash1hd> the text is green the rest of the text is white (normal)
[04:46] <geek_> hmm
[04:46] <geek_> don't remember sadly
[04:46] <geek_> i haven't needed it in a while
[04:46] <Crash1hd> np :) just thought I would ask
[04:47] <Crash1hd> Its finished now it shows *hpfs - ntfs then p Linux D Linux Swap D Linux and D Linux again
[04:47] <Crash1hd> not sure why its showing more then what I had
[04:47] <Crash1hd> I had one ntfs one boot, one swap, and /
[04:51] <sardano> Hi for all!
[04:52] <sardano> Where a found .md5 and .sha1 files to verify DVD iso image of Kubuntu 9.04?
[04:52] <sardano> Please
[04:52] <mattgyver> genii; it says that everything works.  However, thats the case from here on out.  On boot it does not work.  (this is without the changes to the interfaces line)
[04:53] <genii> !md5
[04:53] <genii> Hm
[04:54] <genii> sardano: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[04:54] <sardano> ubottu: Thanks you very much!
[04:54] <sardano> genii: Thanks you very much!
[04:54] <genii> mattgyver: Command:  testparm                       will alert you to any inconsistencies in the smb.conf
[04:56] <mattgyver> oh okay, nm i thought it actually tried to process the file.
[05:07] <mattgyver> genii: i dont want to beat a dead horse but in the interfaces line i had 127.0.0.0/8, should i maybe change the 127 to my routers 192.168.1.1?
[05:07] <linuxguy> hey guys anyone try putting the news applet on the screensaver?
[05:07] <linuxguy> it doesnt seem to work right for me.
[05:08] <linuxguy> it shows the time stamps and nothing else.  is it just me?
[05:08] <genii> mattgyver: You mean /etc/network/interfaces file?   or the "interfaces = eth0" or so in /etc/samba/smb.conf  ?
[05:08] <linuxguy> but when I put it on my desktop no problem.
[05:08] <mattgyver> smb.conf, sorry
[05:09] <mattgyver> The default read ' interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0'
[05:09] <linuxguy> btw how can I upgrad to 4.2.3?
[05:09] <genii> mattgyver: Since eth0 and wlan0   etc don't ever get assigned 127.x.x.x why would you have it there when it belongs to interface lo ?
[05:09] <linuxguy> upgrade
[05:10] <genii> mattgyver: All you should need is something like:  interfaces = eth0               and nothing else
[05:10] <mattgyver> I dont know, its how the file read by default, im wondering if thats where my issue lies.  Ive never messed with this before
[05:10] <mattgyver> okay
[05:12] <genii> mattgyver: Remember to do after, something like:   sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:15] <mattgyver> yeah, the daemons dont restart after that.  gets hung.
[05:15] <mattgyver> with eth0 it restarts.  Its as if it doesnt like wlan0
[05:16] <genii> mattgyver: wlan0 has to be up and default gateway likely
[05:16] <genii> Or at least up
[05:16] <mattgyver> If i understand what you mean, it is.
[05:16] <mattgyver> its up, cuz thats how its connected right now
[05:19] <mattgyver> is it okay to have 2 interface entries as opposed to 1 combined.  It will restart correctly as interfaces = eth0, or interfaces = wlan0, but interfaces = eth0, wlan0
[05:20] <amarok--> hey guys anyone know how i can put videos on my ipod classic i mean i know there is gtkpod for audio but what about video
[05:23] <Amarok___> guys
[05:23] <genii> mattgyver: Is there a value in smb.conf like: bind interfaces only              ?
[05:23] <mattgyver> yeah, but its not uncommented
[05:24] <tomsdale> I've been on kubuntu since alpha 5 - is it possible that because of the alpha version there is some junk left in my system which keeps me from enjoying kubuntu. I have problems with updates, CPU, nvidia crashes
[05:24] <tomsdale> s/in/on
[05:26] <sardano> Is Kubuntu 9.04 stable?
[05:26] <tomsdale> well, its kind of late as well. Amarok___ I HATE IPOD. or maybe not ....
[05:27] <peaches> nope
[05:27] <tomsdale> but I'm getting send these .mp4 files from my band mate and I just hate it because he just copies it from his iöd
[05:28] <bdizzle> hi
[05:28] <bdizzle> I'm having an issue when trying to burn a CD on K3b
[05:28] <mattgyver> bdizzle, what happens?
[05:28] <bdizzle> when I load a CD, it claims: "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:     klauncher said" Unknown protocal
[05:29] <genii> mattgyver: Hm. I would suggest to have: bind interfaces only = yes          and: interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8, eth0, wlan0          ..make sure to put a space after every comma and spaces on each side of each = sign
[05:29] <tomsdale> sardano: it's officially stable. I had my share of problems but thats far from a generalisation. what do you want to do with your OS?
[05:29] <mattgyver> okay, ill try that.
[05:30] <bdizzle> any idea what might be causing it?
[05:30] <sardano> tomsdale: Develop software (web software and C/C++ with Oracle batch software)
[05:30] <tomsdale> bdizzle: is that for all your cd's the same message? i'm asking because there are also encrypted cd's afaia
[05:31] <bdizzle> I'm not sure. I was trying to burn 9.04 onto a CD-RW
[05:31] <bdizzle> right now I'm just running updates and seeing if upgrading to the newest version of k3b will help at all
[05:32] <tomsdale> sardano: I would say definatly yes - just don't go crazy about having the most sexy desktop system on earth and start modifieng things
[05:32] <sardano> tomsdale: Thanks!
[05:33] <tomsdale> sardano: the default of KDE is very usable and for me as well stable. but then I had to impress the GF :-) KDE4 is still young if you know what I mean
[05:33] <sardano> tomsdale: I'll test Mandriva 2009 Spring and Kubuntu 9.04 for these goals.
[05:33] <doleyb> Hi, how can I make gtk-qt-engine work ?
[05:34] <p_quarles> doleyb: enable it in systemsettings > appearance > gtk styles and fonts
[05:35] <sardano> tomsdale: I'm using XFXForce 9400GT 512mb with KDE 4.1 without problems and in max effects, very good!
[05:35] <tomsdale> I read a lot about Mandriva and KDE these days. But I need a system which does server Gnome and KDE which is why I use (K)ubuntu
[05:35] <sardano> tomsdale: ...and stable.
[05:36] <sardano> tomsdale: Mandriva have both.
[05:36] <mattgyver> genii: yeah, same error.  Well, i guess im doomed.
[05:37] <doleyb> What about turning off button-click noises in gtk apps?
[05:37] <Crash1hd> geek_: got it working well at least got ubuntu back :) now to get windows booting all I see after clicking on it in grub is a black screen with Starting up... and there it sits
[05:37] <tomsdale> sardano: how's about server. I have several servers on ubuntu 8.04 and I like the fact that I stay in one distribution for all my needs
[05:38] <genii> mattgyver: Looks like wlan0 is problemmatic for it, some reason I can't quite figure out at this moment. I'd just go for now with the eth0 and keep tinkering
[05:38] <mattgyver> What boggles me the most is, this is only a problem when i boot up the machine
[05:38] <mattgyver> after i login, with the default config once i restart the samba service, everything is normal
[05:38] <mattgyver> ... i have no clue...
[05:42] <xjjk> hallo, is kde 4.2.3 going to be available in jaunty-backports?
[05:42] <xjjk> rather than the PPA
[05:42] <tomsdale> xjjk: that's the plan from what I heard
[05:43] <xjjk> tomsdale: neat, thanks... will wait rather than adding the PPA
[05:43] <xjjk> there are some KMail fixes that look interesting
[05:47] <sardano> How can I export ubuntu public key for a file?
[05:50] <dhs_> Hi All
[05:50] <dhs_> How to upgrade from kde-4.0 to kde-4.2.3???
[05:53] <sardano> tomsdale: Thank you very much!
[05:53] <sardano> genii: Thank you very much!
[05:56] <afeijo> hey, Im back ! :D
[05:56] <afeijo> just by mounting my original home partition, lots of progs just worked as it was before! amazing
[05:56] <kav_38> Help with X freeze on jaunty uxa intel 945G!
[05:56] <linuxguy> dhs I asked that earlier as well
[05:57] <p_quarles> kav_38: yeah, the Intel uxa driver is very crashy
[05:57] <afeijo> but one problem remains, my account dont open konsole cmd/shortcut, only shell cmd, why?
[05:58] <p_quarles> kav_38: best bet for a bad experience with Intel in 9.04 is to revert to the Intrepid driver and exa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[06:00] <kav_38> p_quarles: I know about old driver, but perfomance is poor
[06:01] <p_quarles> kav_38: yes, but it doesn't crash; and uxa is known to do that; short of joining the intel driver development team, not much to do about it
[06:03] <Amarok___> is ext4 reliable enough to store my doc in
[06:04] <tsimpson> dhs_: what version of kubuntu do you have?
[06:05] <p_quarles> Amarok___: unless it's been fixed in the past couple weeks, there's a serious data loss bug that's being worked through for ext4; I wouldn't use it except for tinkering
[06:05]  * genii hands tsimpson more coffee and Krispy Kremes
[06:06] <linuxguy> I am running kbuntu off a thumb drive, but I was reading the debian docs on how to install debian to a thumb drive and it said to disable hibernation otherwise it would cause file corruption, is that true with kubuntu as well?
[06:07] <tsimpson> linuxguy: hibernation powers down the device, but doesn't necessarily flush all the data to the device. so it's true for all types of linux
[06:07] <linuxguy> but why would it be different for a thumb drive? i dont understand?
[06:08] <tsimpson> it should be the same for any external device
[06:08] <linuxguy> if I hibernate to disk.  shouldnt that write everything to disk?
[06:09] <tsimpson> it writes the RAM to swap, but not necessarily to the filesystem
[06:09] <linuxguy> so if the swap file is not on the thumb drive and I un hibernate on a different computer I could lose data.
[06:09] <linuxguy> but my swap file is on the thumb driv.e
[06:09] <linuxguy> drive.
[06:10] <linuxguy> I know it will eventually kill my thumb drive but 16 gb thumbs are 25 bucks so I
[06:11] <tsimpson> how will you resume from the drive?
[06:11] <linuxguy> am not all that worried. just wish I could get raid 1 to work with thumb drives.
[06:12] <linuxguy> I would boot to the thumb drive and it notices that the swap file contains a hibernation data and loads it into memory
[06:13] <dhs_> tsimpson: i am using 9.04
[06:13] <tsimpson> linuxguy: try it out for a while and see if it's an issue, it's possible that the drivers are smarter now than before
[06:13] <tsimpson> dhq_: then you don't have 4.0
[06:13] <dhq_> tsimpson: ??
[06:14] <tsimpson> dhq_: 9.04 came with 4.2.2
[06:14] <p_quarles> tsimpson: dhq_ != dhs_ :)
[06:14] <dhq_> but i am using 8.04
[06:14]  * tsimpson hates similar nicks early in the morning
[06:15] <dhq_> lol
[06:15] <dhq_> ok no probs
[06:17] <dhs_> tsimpson: after installing ubuntu manually installed that kubuntu
[06:18] <tsimpson> dhs_: see the topic for information on installing 4.2.3
[06:18] <Makuseru> Hi, I just upgraded to 9.04 from my previous install on 8.04 and i seem to be having a problem. I can't set any resolution higher than 1024x786. When i was using 8.04 i had a program called "displayconfig-gtk" that would let me force a large resolution, but that isn't included in 9.04. So are there any other ways to force a larger resolution?
[06:18] <dhs_> ok
[06:24] <draik> Hello all
[06:24] <draik> How do I view pictures in TTY?
[06:26] <genii> svgalibs
[06:29] <draik> genii: Got it installed (svgalib1-bin). How do I use/run it to view the image?
[06:30] <draik> Disregard the '1'
[06:30] <draik> svgalib-bin is the package
[06:30] <genii> draik: Apps use the svga libraries to display graphics in a console. You don't run some bin for it. Depending on what kind of image it is the app to view it will vary.
[06:31] <genii> draik: elinks for example is a console based browser which will show graphics in console if svga libs version (of elinks) is installed
[06:32] <draik> genii: No GUI, just TTY (Ubuntu Server).
[06:35]  * draik is calling it a night. Working 12-hour days is great OT, but not too great on the body and mind.
[06:50] <Shtl> how to set the compiz?
[06:52] <Maksueru> Hi, I just upgraded to 9.04 from 8.04. But now I can't set my resolution any larger than 1024x786. When I was using 8.04 i used a program called "displayconfig-gtk" that allowed me to force 1400x1200 resolution, but apparently that program is no longer available. Does anyone know any other program or wya to force a larger resolution?
[06:52] <the_curator> Has anyone's wireless interfaces stopped working after a recent (48h) package update and reboot?
[06:53] <ghassan> hello there
[06:54] <ghassan> hellooo
[07:06] <doleyb> Maksueru: if you have nvidia chip, run nvidia-settings
[07:07] <Maksueru> doleyb: ATI.
[07:08] <Maksueru> !ati
[07:10] <doleyb> Maksueru: did you try Display in systemsettings?
[07:10] <Maksueru> doleyb: Yes, it only goes up to 1024x786.
[07:11] <doleyb> Maksueru: well maybe try following that link to see about drivers... however, the system for adding drivers shouldn't be really different.  The problem that might arise is if ATI corporation has been slow in releasing compatible driver binaries.
[07:12] <Maksueru> Ive been going through that link, and its just talking about editing xorg. And from what I understand video is not handled in the xorg.config file anymore, correct?
[07:12] <doleyb> Maksueru: basically not anything to do in xorg.
[07:13] <Maksueru> Ya, thats what I thought.
[07:13] <Maksueru> Thats how i use to force resolutions, but then they removed all that and i found that program.
[07:13] <Maksueru> And now that that is going im not sure what to do. Since that wiki is apparently severely outdated.
[07:13] <doleyb> Maksueru: prehaps you'd like to ask #ubuntu
[07:13] <Maksueru> Im in there also.
[07:14] <tiby> how can i get the air theme?
[07:14] <tiby> for the new kde4.2.3
[07:15] <doleyb> Maksueru: well the xorg.conf stuff should be just needless if you have the modules in
[07:15] <tiby> opensuse got it as plasma-theme-air, but here, i can't fin dit
[07:15] <tiby> *find it
[07:19] <tiby> does anyone know?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> sup tiby, i missed your question
[07:21] <tiby> i asked about kde4 air theme
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> what of it?
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> tiby: installing it? removing it?
[07:22] <tiby> 'where i can find it
[07:22] <tiby> what else would it be ;) ?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> tiby: well its a piece of software so, bugs, glitches, changing it
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> orremoving, installation, who makes it, where is the dev website, where was it devoped, why,
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> tiby: i can keep going if you want
[07:24] <tiby> i think i'll build kde4 to have new features
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> tiby: in irc with problems you need to be specific
[07:24] <tiby> i know all about it
[07:24] <tiby> i use it in opensuse
[07:24] <tiby> just i can't find in the repos
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> tiby: this is not the channel for opensuse
[07:24] <tiby> *the kubuntu
[07:25] <tiby> i mean i want to use it here too
[07:25] <tiby> or maybe i'
[07:25] <tiby> *i'll drom kubuntu
[07:25] <tiby> *drop
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> let me search the theme out
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> tiby: seems to be part of kde 4.3
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> tiby: i'd ask in #kde personally
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> tiby: i dont thinnk anythings been released from what ive read
[07:30] <tiby> AFAIK, i could find in the repos the plasma-theme- stuff, but not the air one
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> tiby: thats because its not released
[07:30] <tiby> so i have to manually build it from svn
[07:30] <tiby> thx
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> tiby: one of the guys in #kde may know a link
[07:30] <mot_> question
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> tiby: considering its only a theme I wouldnt bust a ball trying to get it
[07:31] <mot_> anybody else gettign a huge segfaultw hen trying to upgrade to kde 4.2.3 in kubuntu 9.04?
[07:31] <tiby> nope
[07:31] <tiby> it installs succesfully
[07:31] <mot_> http://rafb.net/p/l9gdKY96.html
[07:31] <mot_> i'm getting that
[07:31] <mot_> and i have no idea why...
[07:32] <supert0nes> sounds like an apt-get problem did you try rebooting?
[07:32] <mot_> nope
[07:32] <mot_> let's see what happens...brb
[07:37] <adreea> hay
[07:38] <Amarok--> bye guys
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> peace
[08:01] <chalcedony> does anyone know how to get the icons back to the bottom bar in Kubuntu? they spring back when you try to move them
[08:01] <chalcedony> they are stuck on the top bar
[08:08] <SilentDis> !wifi
[08:11] <devil> ciao a tutti
[08:16] <jussi01> !it | devil
[08:16] <L1NuX> tnx jussi01
[08:16] <ketch> can someone tell me how to get Krusader root to open?  I get this:  failed to execute child process "kdesu" (No such file or directory)
[08:30] <yao_ziyuan> opensuse seems to be kde.org's only recommended distro for kde4
[08:31] <yao_ziyuan> http://kde.org/trykde/
[08:32] <yao_ziyuan> also,
[08:32] <yao_ziyuan> anyone having luck with the QuickAccess plasmoid?
[08:32] <yao_ziyuan> when dragging an item from it to Trashcan,
[08:32] <yao_ziyuan> does it require two clicks still?
[08:39] <devilsadvocate> hi,
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> so my recent upgrades broke the kernel packages with dependency errors
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> attempting to fix it manually cause my wireless to go away
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> which package contains the wireless drivers? (intel, i think)
[08:44] <Tm_T> devilsadvocate: what recent upgrades? can you specify?
[08:44] <mth`MAW> Hi there,
[08:45] <devilsadvocate> Tm_T: i recently did an aptitude update and full-upgrade, that left a package or two broken (linux-image-restricted, i think, not sure)
[08:45] <devilsadvocate> on 9.04
[08:45] <mth`MAW> is there a possibility to configure kde4 like osx - using the menubar from every programm at the top of the desktop?
[08:45] <mth`MAW> I searched for it, but did not find anything
[08:45] <Tm_T> mth`MAW: not yet, feel free to file wish in bugs.kde.org (:
[08:46] <Tm_T> devilsadvocate: I guess you have non-standard repositories in use, like, jaunty-proposed ?
[08:46] <devilsadvocate> Tm_T: ah
[08:46] <devilsadvocate> Tm_T: that probably explains it
[08:47] <Tm_T> devilsadvocate: aye, proposed are packages going to main repositories after testing in proposed repository
[08:48] <devilsadvocate> Tm_T: interestingly, i enabled proposed because i needed that kernel so that usbserial can go into a module :\
[08:48] <mth`MAW> Tm_T: Thats sad, because a friend of mine (really a friend - not me ;) ) has this problem... he has kde4 and the menü-thing is at the top... Take a look: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/259946/Bildschirmfoto2.png The problem is, he did not know how to change this back... and I do not either.
[08:50] <carpii> how do i resize a taskbar widget? Somehow my systray is now taking up 90% of taskbar
[08:51] <soon> I've USB connected my Fujifilm camera - dmesg: new full USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 - but it doesnt show up in KDE devices widget ??
[08:51] <carpii> meh, kde 4 is like some cruel joke
[08:51] <carpii> nothing works
[08:54] <geek_> carpii: hit the yin yang symbol
[08:54] <altrortla> hei... buddy.
[08:55] <altrortla> I need to do a complete reinstallation of Kubuntu .... what kind of file it's better to save .... (for the fact that all the system seems to works fine)
[08:56] <soon> any suggestions what I should do? My camera doesnt even get a /dev/sd* reference
[08:56] <soon> altrortla -- why reinstall if it works fine? Back-up /home/*user*?
[08:57] <altrortla> soon: it works fine but Lamp installation gets several error
[08:57] <altrortla> soon: permission Error...
[08:58] <soon> well thats always annoying
[08:58] <altrortla> soon: and i don't know what sould i do ... so I've decided to format all
[08:58] <soon> why not just chmod your /var/www files instead?
[08:59] <altrortla> soon: I give you the last situation.... when I do localhost it try to open a phtml file....
[08:59] <altrortla> "PHTML"
[09:00] <altrortla> what is?
[09:00] <soon> that I dont know
[09:00] <soon> did you google 'apache phtml localhost' ?
[09:00] <altrortla> umm
[09:00] <Tm_T> mth`MAW: ah, does he have some "menubar" plasma widget/applet in use?
[09:01] <mth`MAW> mhm
[09:01] <carpii> geek, yin yang lets me move the widget but i cant find a way to resize it
[09:01] <mth`MAW> gonna ask him... I have no idea...
[09:03] <behnam> Hello
[09:03] <behnam> Why are some packages marked as " blocked " ?
[09:03] <behnam> I can't update the kernel because of that ...
[09:04] <Tm_T> mth`MAW: if so, removing that should solve the issue (its old and unmaintained widget)
[09:05] <mth`MAW> Ah!
[09:05] <mth`MAW> Thanks...
[09:05] <mth`MAW> Do reach him by know... But I will tell him, and giving you some creds :=
[09:06] <mth`MAW> Do not reach him ...
[09:06] <Tm_T> mth`MAW: one of those things I rather would see working, btw
[09:09] <behnam> ( ok I found ... )
[09:24] <Havoc][> is there any way to get kde 4.2.3 into intrepid?
[09:29] <SteBo> Hi! When upgrading my Jaunty system with KDE 4.2.3 from ppa, there is a conflict between the packages kdebase-runtime and kdesudo. The file /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu seems to be contained in both packages.
[09:29] <SteBo> Is this a known problem? Is there a workaround of some kind?
[09:29] <SteBo> Or do I do something wrong?
[09:31] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: you are maintianing those, no? ^^
[09:41] <eagles0513875> !src
[09:41] <eagles0513875> !scr
[09:41] <eagles0513875> !scp
[09:50] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[09:50] <altrortla> uff
[09:51] <FuriousGeorge> i want to add my windows ldm array partitions to my fstab / mdadm.conf, but i want to do it the kubuntu way (i'm a gentoo migrant)...  that means I have to go by UUID, right?
[09:51] <FuriousGeorge> or is there some automagic kubuntuness that does it for me?
[10:00] <dwidmann> FuriousGeorge: I can't think of anything particularly magical. I say use what you know works is always a good plan.
[10:00] <FuriousGeorge> dwidmann: where do i get the UUIDs out of the DevFS again?
[10:00] <staar2> i
[10:01] <staar2> hi
[10:02] <staar2> how to i can set firefox downloaded files default programs ?
[10:02] <FuriousGeorge> hmmmm....  it appears mdadm.conf makes a UUID for the array, and I can just reference that in fstab
[10:33] <happyhessian> i just did a clean install from ubuntu 9.04 to kubunto 9.04 and for some reason my sound is not working correctly.  it identifies two devices HDA NVidia (ALC888 Analog) and PulseAudio.  The first one works with the test sound and the second one does not.  In vlc I can force it to use this device and then it works.  But in mplayer I can't and things like youtube don't work at all.  I've never had a problem like this before so I'm not sure how to deal 
[10:33] <happyhessian>  Is there a way to globally force these apps to use the correct device?
[10:33] <happyhessian> where would one even begin?
[10:34] <happyhessian> seems like this guy is having a similar problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7193369
[10:51] <SteBo> Hi! When upgrading my Jaunty system with KDE 4.2.3 from ppa, there is a conflict between the packages kdebase-runtime and kdesudo. The file /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu seems to be contained in both packages.
[10:51] <SteBo> Is this a known problem? Is there a workaround of some kind?
[10:51] <SteBo> Hi! When upgrading my Jaunty system with KDE 4.2.3 from ppa, there is a conflict between the packages kdebase-runtime and kdesudo. The file /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu seems to be contained in both packages.
[10:51] <SteBo> Is this a known problem? Is there a workaround of some kind?
[10:51] <SteBo> oops, sorry
[10:53] <tlvb> Is there a way to get my logitech mx518 thumb buttons to work in konqueror? (they've worked in gnome+ff) When I search the net I get pages about configuring x11.conf and they seem a bit dated...
[11:11] <ali_> hi
[11:11] <ali_> ;)
[11:31] <larsaa> Hi! Anyone else lost their sound after upgrading to Jaunty?
[11:37] <devilsadvocate> what is the channel to discuss issues with jaunty-proposed?
[11:37] <devilsadvocate> (specifically some kernel and drivers stuff)
[11:43] <le_coq> G * O * O * D   M * O * R * N * I * N * G   evrybdy
[11:44] <eagles0513875> mornign le_coq
[11:44] <eagles0513875> larsaa: does an error box come up saying a driver ahs failed reverting to then name of another one
[11:45] <eagles0513875> !nfs
[11:46] <larsaa> eagles0513875: no error message pops up, but I get this:
[11:47] <larsaa> alsactl init
[11:47] <larsaa> Unknown hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Intel G45 DEVCTG" "HDA:111d76b2,1028024d,00100302 HDA:80862802,80860101,00100000" "" ""
[11:47] <eagles0513875> open up system settings and open the multimedia tool in system settings
[11:47] <eagles0513875> and let me know what devices are listed for music that somehow manages to fix system wide issues
[11:48] <mackk431> what is the reason of the existenz of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:48] <eagles0513875> mackk431: its the list of all the repositories where updates are gotten from and new software is downloaded from
[11:48] <eagles0513875> !apt
[11:48] <mackk431> so if i add something there manually it will be downloaded after sudo apt-get update?
[11:49] <eagles0513875> you also have to add its pgp key to the keyring
[11:49] <eagles0513875> !aptkeyring
[11:49] <eagles0513875> mackk431: you can also edit that list via the gui
[11:49] <eagles0513875> are you on intrepid or jaunty
[11:49] <mackk431> jaunty
[11:50] <larsaa> eagles0513875: listed there are: HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog), PulseAudio, HDA Intel(INTEL HDMI), HDA Intel INTEL (HDMI Output)
[11:50] <mackk431> is this an aptkeyring
[11:50] <mackk431> $ gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 94C09C7F
[11:50] <mackk431>   $ gpg --fingerprint 94C09C7F
[11:50] <eagles0513875> if you open up kpackagekit and hit the 3rd option type in your password after hitting edit sources you can edit your third party repos as well as authentication of that repo in the authentication tab
[11:50] <eagles0513875> yes
[11:51] <eagles0513875> larsaa: is pulseaudio an option
[11:51] <mackk431> ok i see
[11:51] <eagles0513875> thats just for security reasons we need to import the key
[11:51] <mackk431> i am in the progress to get install as source and install it its not quite easy
[11:52] <eagles0513875> ?
[11:52] <mackk431> tor
[11:52] <eagles0513875> what are you trying to install from source
[11:52] <larsaa> eagles0513875: yes, but no sound when I click "Test",
[11:52] <mackk431> cause sudo apt-get install tor doesnt work
[11:53] <larsaa> mackk431: maybe sudo aptitude install tork will do it?
[11:53] <mackk431> ok i try
[11:53] <eagles0513875> larsaa: move it to the very first option on the list then test itewsh
[11:53] <eagles0513875> mackk431: whats the name of the program you want to install and ill try and see if its in the repos for you
[11:53] <mackk431> yes aptitude works install in progress now
[11:54] <eagles0513875> :)
[11:54] <eagles0513875> !info tork
[11:54] <eagles0513875> interesting
[11:54] <larsaa> eagles0513875: maybe tork is just a frontend?
[11:55] <mackk431> hm no wasnt working he says "no version found vor tor"
[11:55] <eagles0513875> larsaa: no just seeing what it is and if it is front end it will pull the backend as a dependency
[11:55] <mackk431> for
[11:55] <eagles0513875> mackk431: you want to install tork right
[11:55] <eagles0513875> !tork
[11:55] <mackk431> no its called tor
[11:55] <SteBo> Hi! When upgrading my Jaunty system with KDE 4.2.3 from ppa, there is a conflict between the packages kdebase-runtime and kdesudo. The file /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu seems to be contained in both packages.
[11:55] <SteBo> Is this a known problem? Is there a workaround of some kind?
[11:55] <mackk431> what is tork?
[11:56] <eagles0513875> !info tork > mackk431
[11:56] <mackk431> tor ist this annonimyser network
[11:56] <mackk431> is
[11:56] <eagles0513875> SteBo: not sure i am having no issues with it did you get it from the kubuntu experimental ppa
[11:57] <eagles0513875> mackk431: you can get your nick cloaked btw if you go into freenode channel they can cloak it
[11:57] <eagles0513875> larsaa: did you move pulse audo to the top
[11:57] <SteBo> eagles0513875: From deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[11:58] <eagles0513875> SteBo: i thought it was still in the ppa kubuntu-experimental
[11:58] <eagles0513875> hold on im asking in the devel channel i could be wrong
[11:58] <eagles0513875> SteBo: havent had your issue though give me a 2nd
[11:58] <SteBo> eagles0513875: ok, thank you
[11:58] <mackk431> oh i see tork is for kde
[11:59] <eagles0513875> mackk431: you on gnome
[11:59] <eagles0513875> and also mackk431 it should work on either desktop
[11:59] <mackk431> kubuntu kde
[11:59] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:59] <mackk431> thanks for help
[11:59] <eagles0513875> SteBo: can you remove kdesudo and see if kdesudo functionality still works
[12:01] <eagles0513875> no problem mackk431
[12:01] <eagles0513875> larsaa: you still around
[12:02] <larsaa> eagles0513875: yes, tried to move PulseAudio to the top, and test, but no luck...
[12:02] <SteBo> eagles0513875: when trying to remove kdesudo it wants to remove some more important packages like update-manager-kde
[12:02] <eagles0513875> hummm
[12:02] <eagles0513875> larsaa: run this in command sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[12:03] <eagles0513875> then test again
[12:03] <eagles0513875> SteBo: can you file a bug and link it here to me please that way i can get it expedited to the devs
[12:03] <SteBo> eagles0513875: against package kdebase-runtime?
[12:04] <SteBo> eagles0513875: is it ok to file bugs against package versions that are not part of the official distribution?
[12:04] <eagles0513875> SteBo: yes
[12:04] <eagles0513875> SteBo: and yes it is. give as much detail as you can it makes life easier
[12:05] <SteBo> eagles0513875: ok, will do
[12:06] <eagles0513875> SteBo: can you link me once you post it please and thanks
[12:07] <mackk431> he says now that he cant find trustworthy keys :(
[12:07] <mackk431> so i dont know if i can trust the sourcecode of the tor client software
[12:09] <eagles0513875> mackk431:  its in the repositories
[12:09] <mackk431> Öffentlicher Schlüssel "Roger Dingledine <arma@mit.edu>" importiert
[12:09] <mackk431> gpg: kein uneingeschränkt vertrauenswürdiger Schlüssel 016212F0 gefunden
[12:09] <eagles0513875> mackk431: type this into command line sudo apt-get install tork
[12:09] <eagles0513875> !paste | mackk431
[12:10] <mackk431> yes i did i am in the configuration process of tork
[12:10] <eagles0513875> i never used tork before
[12:10] <mackk431> in step one i shall import the keys
[12:11] <SteBo> eagles0513875: Looks like this bug is known already https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/345776
[12:11] <mackk431> if i copy the command to terminal he says that he cant find trustworthy key but he found a key that he dont trust
[12:11] <SteBo> eagles0513875: But I haven't had this problem when upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04 a few days ago.
[12:12] <eagles0513875> SteBo: subscribe your self to that bug so you can see whats goign on with it
[12:12] <mackk431> but it will work i think
[12:12] <eagles0513875> SteBo: recommend clean install normally
[12:12] <eagles0513875> some things have changed
[12:12] <eagles0513875> from intrepid to jaunty
[12:12] <SteBo> eagles0513875: the upgrade worked fine for me.
[12:13] <eagles0513875> SteBo: granted but for instance adept has been replaced with kpackagekit
[12:13] <mackk431> it imported a public key
[12:13] <SteBo> eagles0513875: I had to tweak some things, but most of my settings were preserverd.
[12:13] <eagles0513875> SteBo: well your luck i always have issues
[12:13] <SteBo> eagles0513875: thanks for yout help. :-) I'm out for lunch. bbiab
[12:14] <eagles0513875> SteBo: no problem
[12:14] <mackk431> jurgen@schrabbel:~/debian-packages$ gpg --verify /tmp/kde-jurgen/torkXhExlb.tmp /tmp/kde-jurgen/torkzPRmec.tmp
[12:14] <mackk431> gpg: Signatur am So 12 Apr 2009 10:11:38 CEST mit DSA Schlüssel, ID 28988BF5, erfolgt
[12:14] <mackk431> gpg: Korrekte Unterschrift von 'Roger Dingledine <arma@mit.edu>'
[12:14] <mackk431> gpg: WARNUNG: Dieser Schlüssel trägt keine vertrauenswürdige Signatur!
[12:14] <mackk431> gpg:          Es gibt keinen Hinweis, daß die Signatur wirklich dem vorgeblichen Besitzer gehört.
[12:14] <mackk431> Haupt-Fingerabdruck  = B117 2656 DFF9 83C3 042B  C699 EB5A 896A 2898 8BF5
[12:14] <mackk431> i think i cant use it
[12:15] <eagles0513875> mackk431: please dont do that
[12:15] <eagles0513875> !paste | mackk431
[12:15] <mackk431> ok
[12:15] <eagles0513875> use that link ans also if you have tork working dont need to let us know what you are doing if you have questions or issues please feel free to post here
[12:17] <eagles0513875> SteBo: you there right quick
[12:17] <asraniel> how can this happen? suddendly my gf could not open her cd-rom drive anymore (there was no cd in it)
[12:17] <SteBo> eagles0513875: yes
[12:17] <eagles0513875> SteBo: can you add some info that you can confirm on kde 4.2.3 and some information about your rig like kernel architecture etc
[12:17] <SteBo> eagles0513875: ok, will do after lunch.
[12:21] <le_coq> why is it that my ubuntu after updating from 8.10 to 9.04 especially on FF and other i-net applications slows down dramatically?
[12:23] <eagles0513875> le_coq: if you are on gnome #ubuntu is the channel for you if you are on kde you are in the right channel
[12:23] <eagles0513875> larsaa: any luck
[12:25] <larsaa> eagles0513875: unfortunately, thanks for all the help anyways, I see that I'm not alone with sound problems, will try again later
[12:25] <eagles0513875> well i have that issue as well larsaa but im not on an intel audio card me switching to pulse audio works im on an nvidia mcp51 hd audio card
[12:26] <eagles0513875> it seems like its a bug with either phonon or something else
[12:29] <lokai> Are there any utilities that will merge mutiple PDFs into one?
[12:30] <eagles0513875> !pdf
[12:30] <eagles0513875> lokai: not sure to be honest i know adobe read pro does it on windows not sure on linux
[12:32] <bazhang> !info pdfedit
[12:32] <eagles0513875> thanks bazhang didnt know bout that :)
[12:38] <TefZe1> !apt-get
[12:38] <larsaa> eagles0513875: Seems like the sound problem is described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/364706
[12:38] <TefZe1> !dpkg
[12:38] <TefZe1> !emacs
[12:38] <TefZe1> hello world =)
[12:40] <eagles0513875> thanks for the link larsaa
[12:41] <ikonia> TefZe1: better to query the bot in a pm if you wawnt to do multiple queries
[12:42] <TefZe1> it was just a test
[12:42] <TefZe1> sry
[12:43] <ikonia> TefZe1: no problem, maybe test in a pm next time, so the channel doesn't get flooded
[12:43] <TefZe1> no prob
[12:45] <ikonia> TefZe1: thank you
[12:47] <asraniel> i hate beeing a computer scientist sometimes
[12:47] <asraniel> i just spent 2 hours trying to explain to my gf how to get a cd on her ipod with linux
[12:47] <asraniel> first k3b had a bug that it could not rip cds
[12:48] <asraniel> then the dolphin music cd rip thing didn't work either
[12:48] <asraniel> then i had to explain grip to her
[12:48] <asraniel> that at least worked
[12:48] <asraniel> then amarok could not see the ipod, because there is a packaging bug in 2.1 beta 1
[12:48] <asraniel> then i tried to make her use gtkpod
[12:49] <asraniel> which then complained that she has to recharge the ipod first (even though the ipod is completely recharged)
[12:49] <asraniel> and all i wanted is to get in the park and get some sun
[12:50] <ikonia> asraniel: this is offtopic in hre
[12:50] <ikonia> asraniel: this channel is for kubuntu support only
[12:50] <asraniel> ikonia: not really, this was kubuntu i'm talking about
[12:50] <ikonia> asraniel: yes, but your not asking for support/discussion your just explaining about how bad you had to tell someone
[12:51] <bazhang> asraniel, was there a question in there?
[12:51] <asraniel> comon, it's not like the channel is crowded right now, i just had to express my feelings ;) but yes of course there are questions in it
[12:51] <asraniel> for example
[12:51] <ikonia> asraniel: doesn't matter if the channel is busy, there are off topic channels for chatting
[12:52] <asraniel> ikonia: but it is not offtopic, because i was listing a bunch of bugs. But i'll start again in that case:
[12:52] <ikonia> asraniel: then list the issue clearly without the 12 lines of pre-amble
[12:52] <asraniel> anyone knows how to rip cds with k3b? even if lame is installed k3b gives a error about lame
[12:53] <ikonia> asraniel: what's the error ?
[12:53] <asraniel> ikonia: command failed: lame -h --tt
[12:54] <ikonia> asraniel: is that it ?
[12:54] <asraniel> ikonia: pretty much yes. i actually found somebody with the same problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+question/56092 , but there was no real solution
[12:55] <ikonia> asraniel: have you tried running the command manually ?
[12:55] <ahmed> i cannt install virtualbox the closed source it give me error
[12:55] <ikonia> ahmed: then join #vbox as the closed source one we can't do anything about
[12:56] <bazhang> libk3b3-extracodecs is installed asraniel ?
[12:56] <eagles0513875> touche ikonia lol
[12:56] <asraniel> ikonia: does not give a error here. But i don't have a audio cd here to test anyway, had to debug over icq on my gfs computer
[12:57] <ikonia> asraniel: thats something thats worth trying when you get home
[12:57] <asraniel> bazhang: i think so yes, they should be installed anyway when you install the nonfree stuff, no?  but sadly my gf is not online anymore, so i can't ask
[12:58] <bazhang> asraniel, you need to install it separate from the -restricted-extras stuff
[12:59] <asraniel> bazhang: ok, then i have to check that when she gets home. would be nice if it was possible to give more expressive error messages
[12:59] <bazhang> asraniel, for future reference, apt-cache search package (in this case k3b) shows what you may be missing
[13:00] <shadowhywind> hay all I saw that KDE 4.2.3 came out, so I went to add the repo , but everytime i update the lists, it come back saying it can't be verified
[13:01] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: your missing the repo pgp key
[13:02] <shadowhywind> eagles0513875: how would I go about adding/creating that?
[13:02] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: give me a sec to give you a link
[13:02] <shadowhywind> eagles0513875: thanks
[13:05] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: sry for taking so long
[13:05] <shadowhywind> eagles0513875: ah no problems
[13:07] <bazhang> !gpgerr
[13:07] <eagles0513875> easier than what i was gonna suggest
[13:08] <shadowhywind> ah hehe, giving that a try now
[13:08]  * eagles0513875 makes not of that bot command
[13:10] <shadowhywind> eagles0513875: thanks! that works!
[13:10] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: dont thank me thank bazhang
[13:10] <adasz> how can i boot with a virtualbox from the other partision
[13:12] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: what is the key for that repo
[13:12] <shadowhywind> 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[13:13] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: which command you use the first one
[13:13] <eagles0513875> nm it works
[13:13] <shadowhywind> heeh
[13:13] <eagles0513875> actually doesnt
[13:14] <shadowhywind> i ran gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 2836CB0A8AC93F7A ; gpg --export --armor 2836CB0A8AC93F7A | sudo apt-key add -
[13:15] <FloridaGuy> how do i access my digital camera
[13:16] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: 2nd command isnt working
[13:16] <shadowhywind> i know for me when I ran it, it kind of stalled out for like a min or two
[13:17] <eagles0513875> i keep getting an error about no such file or directory
[13:17] <maco> FloridaGuy: usually if you plug a digital camera in or insert its memory card into the computer, it'll be treated the same as a flash drive
[13:17] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: fixed it didnt know you needed the -
[13:18] <FloridaGuy> maco, i have a kodac easyshare C813....windows dont even treat it as a flash drive
[13:19] <shadowhywind> eagles0513875: ah, hehe well brb reboot time
[13:19] <eagles0513875> shadowhywind: probably need to reboot as well
[13:19] <maco> FloridaGuy: its fairly common for linux to treat things like usb mass storage when windows doesn't, but if that doesn't happen with this particular camera, i recommend just popping out the memory card and using that
[13:20] <FloridaGuy> maco, i have picture in the camera's built in memory that i want
[13:20] <maco> FloridaGuy: many laptops have a slot for camera memory cards. if yours doesn't, there are usb adapters or...actually, some HP printers (if you have one of those) have camera card slots so they can act as usb adapters
[13:20] <tlvb> Is it possible to add a keyboard shortcut in kate so that alt+# will switch to open document #?
[13:20] <tlvb> (like in gedit)
[13:21] <maco> oh :-/
[13:21] <maco> is it possible to move pics from internal memory to card on one of those cameras?
[13:21] <maco> that's actually one piece of hardware i *haven't* tried
[13:22] <maco> i mean, ive tried *my* camera, but not the family kodak easy share one
[13:22] <maco> FloridaGuy: when you plug it in, if run "dmesg" on the command line right after, does it say anything about a device being plugged in?
[13:26] <lvjiabin> Here ,no man ?
[13:26] <lvjiabin> my kubuntu can not  reboot in x-window,  anyone know why?
[13:26] <FloridaGuy> maco, it gives a tone of stuff
[13:29] <lvjiabin_> shit ,dead again
[13:30] <adasz> how can i boot from my windows partition in the virtualbox?
[13:30] <adasz> how can i boot from my windows partition in the virtualbox?
[13:31] <eagles0513875> adasz: you cannot you can accss stuff on it using ntfs-eg
[13:31] <eagles0513875> !ntfs-3g | adasz
[13:33] <oleg> hi. installed ubuntu dual boot with lilo boot loader but it sees only linux and boots it by default, but no Windows. Can anyone help?
[13:33] <sheytan> oleg: try sudo liloconfig
[13:33] <SteBo> eagles0513875: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/345776/comments/12
[13:33] <eagles0513875> thanks
[13:33] <adasz> eagles0513875: i think you dont understand me, i want boot my windows partiotion in the virtualbox, so that i can play there games
[13:34] <shadowhywind> eagles0513875: how'd the reboot go?
[13:34] <maco> oh he left...ok then
[13:34] <oleg> sheytan: i tried but in vain. It doesn't give me a choice but loads linux by default
[13:34] <SteBo> bye :-)
[13:35] <pushrax> oleg have you tried using a grrub editor?
[13:35] <sheytan> he's using lilo
[13:35] <sheytan> try expert mode
[13:35] <pushrax> oh ok
[13:35] <pushrax> only read part
[13:35] <oleg> sheytan: when i make liloconfig it tells me it adds windows but does,t give a choice at boot
[13:35] <sheytan> maybe try grub
[13:36] <oleg> sheytan: grub doesn't work on my machine for some reasons
[13:36] <adasz> eagles0513875: i think you dont understand me, i want boot my windows partiotion in the virtualbox, so that i can play there games
[13:36] <lvjiabin_> Hi ,maco,please
[13:37] <sheytan> oleg: maybe you're writing wrong windows partition in the liloconfig?
[13:37] <pushrax> oleg: do you have a modern mobo
[13:37] <lvjiabin_> my problem
[13:37] <maco> oleg: is it a mac or some other type of hardwre that uses EFI?
[13:37] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: patience :)
[13:37] <oleg> maco: no. it's standard amd thing
[13:37] <eagles0513875> adasz: you wont have very good performance running it a virtual machine performance will seriously be reduced that way
[13:37] <oleg> sheytan: no i wrote correct partition
[13:37] <pushrax> oleg: have you got it in legacy IDE mode?
[13:37] <lvjiabin_> kubuntu can not  shutdown easly  in x-window,please why?
[13:38] <oleg> pushrax: no I have sata drive
[13:38] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: you need to be more specific on what version you use, what graphic card, etc.
[13:39] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok,thank you very much ,Ee ,kde4.22  and with SB700  ati3200
[13:39] <oleg> maybe I should make windows the default choice in lilo.conf?
[13:40] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: I don't have this architecture, sry, can't help you
[13:41] <Mamarok> ...
[13:41] <weedar> How do I get the keys for the kubuntu-ppa mentioned in this channel's topic?
[13:41] <weedar> There's no info on it on kubuntu.org
[13:41] <pushrax> sata still works with legacy ide mode.  all that does is set the bridge to be more compatible and not go into AHCI mode
[13:42] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok: and the kubuntu has been installed  in ubuntu !  Do you know  why?
[13:42] <jimmy51_home> is anyone else's KRDC screen resolution really messed up since 9.04?
[13:43] <adasz> eagles0513875: wayne xD can you tell me how can i boot it?
[13:43] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: sry, I don't understand your question
[13:43] <oleg> pushrax: i have award bios - where is that option?
[13:43] <adasz> eagles0513875: i have the virtualbox from sun
[13:43] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: how did you install it?
[13:43] <pushrax> oleg: most likely in prefs
[13:44] <bentob0x> hi, for some reason I cannot listen to amarok and having sound on a flash video at the same time.  It depends on what software I start first.  If I start Amarok, play music and then watch youtube, Amarok has sound and not youtube and vice versa.  This is also true with amarok/VLC or VLC/flash etc
[13:44] <Mamarok> weedar: check the launchpad website of the PPA, you can find the key there
[13:44] <adasz> eagles0513875: i have the virtualbox from sun
[13:44] <weedar> Mamarok: I'm trying, but I can't seem to find it for some weird reason...
[13:45] <pushrax> oleg: guessing though. AHCI mode makes most mobo's detect hardrives differently then what we are all used to.  AHCI only offers hotpluging and soem queuing features.
[13:45] <pushrax> oleg: just look over your bios settings as it seesm your prolbem is base level, not os.
[13:45] <oleg> pushrax: so to what mode should I switch?
[13:45] <pushrax> oleg: IDE
[13:46] <sheytan> oleg: what's the lilo error massage? (is there any?)
[13:46] <Mamarok> weedar: the key is in the middle of the page, right below the sources-list entries box
[13:46] <afeijo> morning
[13:46] <pushrax> oleg: you shouldn't see any speed loss.  you'll probably get more speed.
[13:47] <oleg> sheytan: no errors, just loads Linux and doesn't give a choice
[13:47] <pushrax> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Host_Controller_Interface
[13:47] <sheytan> oleg: did you select the right wait time?
[13:47] <weedar> Mamarok: found it just when you wrote your reply, thanks though :) I think my brain has already started it's weekend =)
[13:47] <oleg> sheytan: yes 20s but now I set windows to default - maybe this will help?
[13:48] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:  Oh,I am sorry !  that  is ,my computer is a desktop  with the ati_3200  graphic card. and  the  soft  systerm is  kubuntu with kde4.22(the last upgrade)
[13:48] <sheytan> i don't know
[13:48] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: you said Ee previousley...
[13:48] <lex> ciao
[13:49] <pushrax> oleg: also was your windows partition on a primary partition and set for boot flag?
[13:49] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: how did you install Kubuntu?
[13:49] <oleg> pushrax: yes it is - i mean the boot flag and primary partition
[13:49] <eagles0513875> !wine | adasz
[13:50] <pushrax> oleg: well I' be checkign your bios
[13:50] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: what has wine to do with virtualbox?
[13:51] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:  installed in gnome enviroment
[13:51] <oleg> pushrax: well i had mandriva dual-booted with windows 2 days ago  and it worked. Don't think is bios problem
[13:51] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: trying to give him another alternative to what hes asking cuz i have never seen booting another partition on the same drive in virtual box
[13:51] <pushrax> Question.  is there a way to select keyboard type without editing xorg manually?
[13:52] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: that's not exactly what he is looking for I guess...
[13:52] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: is what he wants even possible
[13:52] <Mamarok> pushrax: system settings -> keyboard and locale
[13:52] <pushrax> Mamarok: ok looking
[13:52] <lvjiabin_> pushrax :  maybe can setup the keyboard in x-window
[13:53] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: well, that's the whole point of virtualization, isn't it?
[13:53] <lvjiabin_> pushrax:something like systerm-setup
[13:53] <pushrax> lvjiabin_: ok thx too.  Mamarok looked in systemsettings and you can't pick brand.
[13:53] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: so it's normal you have both Gnomw and KDE, why do you ask?
[13:53] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: true but i have yet to see a way to access another non virtual partition or drive from the same machien that one is on linux on
[13:55] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok: But ,for nomal, I cant shutdown in x-window  with kde
[13:55] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: well, yes, if you started KDE from the beginning
[13:55] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:something may  brush
[13:55] <Mamarok> brush?
[13:55] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:crash
[13:56] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:yes, of course,I  started from beginning
[13:56] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: what is your native language? I think you would better ask in your mothertongue as I don't really understand your questions
[13:57] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:sorry,my poor  english
[13:57] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: you don't have to excuse yourself, just tell me what is your native language, there might be a channel for it
[13:57] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:Chinese!
[13:58] <Mamarok> !cz | lvjiabin_
[13:58] <Mamarok> oops, that was wrong...
[13:58] <Mamarok> !ch | lvjiabin_
[13:59] <Mamarok> !cn | lvjiabin_
[13:59] <Mamarok> there you go :)
[13:59] <sheytan> ok, time for bike :D see ya all
[13:59] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:Ok,i have known,But there is no man can solve such problem
[13:59] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: ok, let's try again then
[14:00] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: you say you can't shutdown your computer?
[14:00] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:yes
[14:00] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: what happens exactly, does it close KDE?
[14:01] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:no ,just black screen with the mouse
[14:01] <icewind> I also have the same problem when shutting down, sometimes KDE won't quit
[14:01] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: you mean, it goes black without shutting down KDE?
[14:02] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:yes
[14:02] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: did you do a clean install of Jaunty?
[14:02] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: it does that to me as well sometimes but also there is osmething that keeps cancelling my logout restart or shutdown
[14:02] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:what is Jaunty?
[14:03] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: you have installed Kubuntu 9.04 or did you upgrade a distribution?
[14:03] <Mamarok> p.04 = Jaunty
[14:03] <Mamarok> 9.04 even
[14:04] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:no
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:04] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: no what?
[14:04] <folkface> hello, can someone help me? My screen is stuck in 640 x 480 and nothing i do will change it?
[14:04] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:I install 9.04  at the beginning
[14:04] <xeenon> hi, where i can find help in german here?
[14:04] <Pici> !de | xeenon
[14:04] <Mamarok> !de | xeenon
[14:04] <xeenon> ty
[14:05] <Mamarok> xeenon: try #kubuntu-de
[14:05] <Mamarok> the bot semms not to know about :(
[14:05] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:the  ubuntu 9.04 DVD
[14:05] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: ok, that was my question about the clean install
[14:06] <ToreadorVampire> Hey all - the Network Manager widget in Kubuntu Jaunty (that replaced knetworkmanager) - is there any way to tell it to store wireless keys outside of kwallet?
[14:06] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: there is a known problem with logging out of KDE in Jaunty on some systems, but not for shutdown AFAIK
[14:06] <icewind> Mamarok: I don't think the shutdown problem is related to any version of Kubuntu
[14:06] <BluesKaj> folkface , what graphics card ?
[14:06] <icewind> I had the problem on 3 different kubuntu  instalation, both clean 8.10, 8.10 upgraded to 9.04 and clean 9.04
[14:06] <ToreadorVampire> I'm getting ticked off that [the second I log into my laptop] I am immediately prompted for my kwallet password just to connect to the wireless network (that I use every day)
[14:07] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: kwallet is the only place to store passwords
[14:07] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Argh :(
[14:07] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: enable the "Allow always" setting and it will not ask you all the time
[14:07] <folkface> BluesKaj: an old geforce4 nvidia thing - nvidia settings shows it detects crt monitor
[14:07] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:somthing can do to solve this ?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> ToreadorVampire , if you find a solution let me know ..that wallet thing is nothing but a PITA
[14:07] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: then you only need the kwallet password once you log in, that's it
[14:07] <kyle_> my amorok isnt working you guys getting any problems?
[14:08] <lvjiabin_> kyle:of course no
[14:08] <Mamarok> hey , kwallet can store the passwords for all the session, just configure it right
[14:08] <Mamarok> I only get prompted once, that's it
[14:08] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Yeah, that's what I mean - the second I have [already authenticated] using my usual username/password I am immediately prompted to authenticate again
[14:08] <folkface> BluesKaj: onboard graphics do the same thing :(
[14:08] <kyle_> everytime i click on it it shows the logo and thats it
[14:08] <Mamarok> kyle_: which Amarok
[14:09] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Indeed - kwallet only prompts me once - but I don't want it to prompt me "the second I log in, just to be able to use my laptop"
[14:09] <kyle_> audio player the one that comes with the disk
[14:09] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: if you disable kwallet, you will have to enter *all* the passwords by hand every time
[14:09] <lvjiabin_> kyle:but  it  is always no-friendly with chinese
[14:09] <Mamarok> these are the basics of Linux security, without you don't have a secure system
[14:10] <BluesKaj> folkface, lspci | grep VGA . then search adept or package manager with the make & model and you get a list of driver, look in the lists for your card
[14:10] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Yes ... but knetworkmanager had a setting "store this wireless key outside kwallet in a plain text file - INSECURE, NOT ADVISED" - but it was a godsend
[14:10] <kyle_> lol im not chinese
[14:10] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: bring us chinese developers then the situation will improve...
[14:10] <Mamarok> kyle_: which version
[14:10] <kyle_> im not to sure.. how do you check
[14:10] <kyle_> its the default one that comes with kubuntu
[14:10] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:Haha ,that is a problem for me
[14:11] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: there is a fundamental difference between a user login and password authentication, from the security POV
[14:11] <Mamarok> kyle_: what version of Kubuntu do yu have?
[14:11] <Mamarok> you*
[14:11] <BluesKaj> folkface , i disabled my onboard graphics in thew BIOS sfter installing my new nvidia pci card
[14:12] <kyle_> how do you check what version it is
[14:12] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Right, but it's annoying as hell that - from the user perspective - I have two authentications to go through before I can do anything at all
[14:12] <Mamarok> lvjiabin_: well, then don't complain, no chiese developers who give a hand, no improvement
[14:12] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: don't complain, at least you have a secure system, unless other OS..
[14:12] <folkface> BluesKaj: I may try that then, did you have this problem?
[14:12] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: typing 2 passwords a day is not much
[14:13] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> I'm not saying I mind typing 2 passwords per day
[14:13] <ToreadorVampire> I appreciate what kwallet does
[14:13] <ToreadorVampire> And I like it
[14:13] <ToreadorVampire> But I don't want kwallet to get involved in my wireless config
[14:13] <jimmy51_home> how do i browse to a windows file share in dolphin?
[14:13] <Mamarok> kyle_: you don't know which version of Kubuntu you have you mean?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> folkface. yes but it was in intrepid not jaunty
[14:13] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: it doesn't get "involved"
[14:14] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok: Just for a juke !In China ,there is rere linuxser!  and i  just a student for hardware!
[14:14] <kyle_> oee
[14:14] <Mamarok> if you don't want it to store the password, remove it, and type all the Passwords separately every time
[14:14] <kyle_> oww* i got jaunty
[14:14] <ToreadorVampire> Because my wireless config is low-security enough that I really don't give a stuff whether the wireless key is encrypted in a kwallet or just sits in a plain text file in my home directory
[14:14] <lvjiabin_> Mamarok:thank you ,also!
[14:14] <Mamarok> kyle_: sou you have Amarok 2.0.2 then
[14:14] <kyle_> i dont know the version of amarok i got
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Mamarok , is there a tutorial somewhere for configuring Wallet , I don't understand it very well.
[14:14] <kyle_> probably
[14:14] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: there is no alternative AFAIK
[14:15] <ToreadorVampire> And it's aggravating that the kwallet dialog appears immediately on login, because my wireless networking is requesting a password from kwallet
[14:15] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: open the wallet in your system tray
[14:15] <yoshiy> Hello, does anyone know how i can get the sound of more than one programm at a time working? I am using Jaunty 9.04
[14:15] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: you really don't want to understand, don't you?
[14:15] <icewind> jimmy51_home: If it's a samba file share (most probably), Goto network in the places menu -> Smaba shares -> Name of share
[14:16] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> No, I do understand, and I really really do - but you seem to be talking at a cross-purpose to me
[14:16] <ToreadorVampire> You're banging the security drum, and in that regard you're preaching to the converted
[14:16] <folkface> BluesKaj: i have nvidia-glx-96 - should i have 71? it's a GeForce4 MX 460
[14:16] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: well, you have two possibilities, use kwallet or not use it :)
[14:17] <jimmy51_home> icewind: i don't see a places menu
[14:17] <jimmy51_home> is it in dolphin?
[14:17] <Mamarok> not using it means typing all the passwords separately, I don't see where the problem is
[14:17] <ToreadorVampire> Mmm, but nm doesn't seem to have a "don't use kwallet and just store the password in a plaintext file" option
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Mamarok. yeah , what now .set the time to 999?
[14:17] <ToreadorVampire> Which is what's anoying me
[14:17] <jimmy51_home> icewind: oh, duh.  the bar on the left
[14:17] <ToreadorVampire> I DO want to use kwallet for all of my other passwords
[14:17] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: ?
[14:17] <ToreadorVampire> Just no wireless
[14:17] <ToreadorVampire> not*
[14:17] <pushrax> folkface: have you tired adding the repository https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[14:18] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: then don't
[14:18] <kyle_> god damnit even kplayer is having problems with my mp3s
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Mamarok , I don't see any wireless optins
[14:18] <ToreadorVampire> Hmm, lemme see then
[14:18] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: there is an option "Never use kwallet" for that particular password
[14:18] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Oh?  Where?  I don't see that
[14:18] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: wireless options? You were asking about kwallet
[14:19] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:19] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: when you are asked if you want to store it
[14:19] <folkface> pushrax: no, but i will, can't hurt? (me anymore)
[14:19] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: but kwallet loads always on KDE login, unless you change it's settings
[14:20] <pushrax> folkface: add that with the pgp key then refresh kpackage a few time to register the new items
[14:20] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: open the wallet, go to the passwords and remove those you don't want to have in
[14:20] <ToreadorVampire> Mamarok> Yeah, that's fine - I just don't want to 'authenticate' to kwallet immediately on login (because networkmanger was asking for a password) - I want to authenticate to kwallet when I actually use something that has a significant password - like an sftp share or something
[14:20] <Mamarok> and next time it asks you if you want to use kwallet for that partivular password, tell it not to
[14:21] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: kwallet loads as soon as an app needs it
[14:21] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: and you only have to open it once per session
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, where are the oprions to store the wireless pw in wallet
[14:21] <ToreadorVampire> I know that - I don't want network manager to "need it"
[14:21] <ToreadorVampire> That's the whole issue
[14:22] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: open the wallet, click on the wallet icon, the rest is self explaining IMHO
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Mamarok , self explanatory ...I'm not a genius but no dummy either, but there's nothing self explanatory about it
[14:24] <Mamarok> BluesKaj, ToreadorVampire : check this picture: http://myriam.kollide.net/kwallet.png
[14:25] <ToreadorVampire> Yeah, I see that now - I can edit the wallet manually
[14:26] <ToreadorVampire> Also, as an aside I do hate when a system-tray icon doesn't present it's "on left click" action in the popup menu that appears "on right click"
[14:26] <ToreadorVampire> Coz I generally explore the options by right-clicking, if there is an 'undocumented in the popup menu" action on left click I will usually not notice its existence :(
[14:26] <ToreadorVampire> But oh well
[14:26] <Mamarok> ToreadorVampire: right click on the panel, Configure kdewallet, Authentication Policy
[14:27] <Mamarok> well, actually Access Control
[14:27] <ToreadorVampire> Mmm, I see that
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, yeah Ive had that up for 5 mins , but what do i do with it ?
[14:28] <ToreadorVampire> Right, brb, gonna log out and then log back in
[14:28] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: you mean the picture I showed you?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:28] <Mamarok> click on the maps section of each app that uses the wallet to locat the passwords
[14:29] <Mamarok> remove those you don't want kdewallet to use
[14:29] <Mamarok> there is an option to see the password in clear once you are on the setting
[14:29] <BluesKaj> why remove ? , I want the passwords to work automatically ...isn't that what this thing does ?
[14:29] <Mamarok> the check box above the right window part: "Show values"
[14:30] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: then I don't understand your problem :)
[14:30] <Mamarok> it does, and very well for me
[14:31] <Mamarok> just don't expect it to store your user password for the X login, as kdewallet is a GUI app and only works once you are logged in
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, I must be missing the point here ...doesn't wallet remember your pws for various functions and autmatically open apps that require them ?
[14:32] <Mamarok> no, the other way round, it stores the passwords and is opened by the app using it
[14:32] <BluesKaj> what good is that ?
[14:32] <Mamarok> so if you open Kmail as the first app in KDE it will promt you to open kwallet
[14:32] <BluesKaj> if it keeps asking for bloody pws
[14:33] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: a wallet is to store various passwords, and you use a master password to acceed those
[14:33] <Mamarok> no need to type the other passwords again
[14:33] <Mamarok> with the wallet you use *one* password for all the apps
[14:34] <Mamarok> just allow the app to use the wallet allways and yo will not be promted every time
[14:34] <lokai> Anyone have experience in photoshop?
[14:35] <Mamarok> lokai: photoshop is not Free Software, you will have to ask in a photoshop channel
[14:35] <lokai> I'm not allowed in, unfortunately.
[14:35] <lokai> Have to be invited =(
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, I'm looking for a way to avoid using pws every time they're required , not be prompted for them :)
[14:37] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: that doesn't work in Linux
[14:37] <kyle_> how come my audio is realiying on the pulse driver instead of my ATI .. is there a way i can change this
[14:37] <Mamarok> else it would make the system insecure
[14:38] <Mamarok> kyle_: change the order in systemsettings -> multimedia
[14:38] <Mamarok> push pulseaudio to the bottom
[14:38] <kyle_> its at the bottom
[14:38] <kyle_> still it runs it first
[14:39] <kyle_> i test my ATI and it works fine
[14:39] <Mamarok> kyle_: I have the same problem, try removing phononrc in .kde/share/config/
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, yeah ,l 'm aware of that , but I'm the only person using this box so why should I need all that security when most stuff like banking and wifi already has it's own security already set up .
[14:40] <Mamarok> kyle_: actually it is called phonondevicesrc
[14:40] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: then use the login without password
[14:41] <kyle_> ill search my computer.. do you know where i can find it
[14:41] <Mamarok> kyle_: told you the path already ^^
[14:41] <kyle_> so its root/ then what
[14:42] <Mamarok> kyle_: no, it's in your home directory
[14:42] <kyle_> alright
[14:42] <Mamarok> don't use sudo, not needed
[14:42] <kyle_> not there
[14:43] <p4tr0p1> hi folks
[14:44] <Mamarok> kyle_: it is, don't forget the dot in front of .kde...
[14:44] <Mamarok> kyle_: if you use Dolphin for that, you will have to use the "Show hidden files" option from the View menu
[14:46] <SteBo> Hi! How can I integrate KNotes into Kontact (I'm using KDE 4.2.3). I know this was possible in earlier KDE releases, but I cannot find how to do it with the current release.
[14:47] <Fabien__> Bonjour, je pense avoir un probleme il m est impossible de me connecter à mon reseau wifi ( NETGEAR)
[14:48] <Mamarok> !fr | Fabien__
[14:48] <AceKing> Hi everyone, I'm a super noob to Ubuntu. I downloaded a security cam program that I want to install. The extension is .tar.gz I extracted the archive but don't know how to install it
[14:48] <SteBo> AceKing: Is there no README or INSTALL file included?
[14:49] <icewind> AceKing: look if the is a makefile in the folder
[14:49] <AceKing> ok
[14:49] <genii> AceKing: Is it called "zoneminder" ?
[14:49] <Mamarok> SteBo: about Kontact: Menu Settings ->configure Knotact
[14:49] <Mamarok> then you can chosse what app you want to show in kontact
[14:49] <AceKing> Yes Zoneminder
[14:49] <Mamarok> choose even
[14:50] <genii> AceKing: You didn't need to get anything for that from outside the repositories then
[14:50] <Mamarok> SteBo: what would you need a README or INSTALL for in a binary package?
[14:50] <SteBo> Mamarok: KNotes is not available in this dialog.
[14:50] <genii> AceKing: You can already install zoneminder from Add/Remove
[14:50] <Mamarok> SteBo: is it installed?
[14:50] <SteBo> Mamarok: To read the install instructions.
[14:50] <SteBo> Mamarok: Yes, KNotes is installed.
[14:50] <AceKing> genii, I didn't see it in there
[14:51] <genii> !info zoneminder
[14:51] <genii> AceKing: Make sure the "universe" repository is enabled
[14:51] <Mamarok> SteBo: which version of KDE do you use?
[14:51] <SteBo> Mamarok: 4.2.3 from ppa
[14:51] <Mamarok> oh, just seen it, never mind
[14:52] <Mamarok> it shows up here in kontact without problem, didn't even have to configure it
[14:52] <AceKing> I am so new at this I feel stupid... How do I do that genii?
[14:52] <SteBo> Mamarok: not for me :-(
[14:53] <Mamarok> SteBo: which version does Kontact show for you?
[14:53] <SteBo> Mamarok: 1.4.3
[14:55] <SteBo> Mamarok: perhaps this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172139 ?
[14:55] <SteBo> Mamarok: investigating...
[14:55] <Mamarok> SteBo: same version here, strange
[14:56] <genii> AceKing: Usually from within the Add/Remove system... I am on an older version which uses Adept, if you have that go to "Edit software sources" or so on bottom left and then check off "Community-maintained Open-source software"
[14:56] <genii> Bah netsplit
[14:57] <Mamarok> SteBo: I have kjots installed too, and knotes shows in Kontact...
[14:58] <scherfa> Hello, has anyone else problems installing kde 4.2.3 -> kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.2.3) brocken ?
[14:58] <SteBo> scherfa: had the same problem. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/345776/comments/12
[14:59] <scherfa> SteBo: Thanks.
[15:00] <SteBo> Mamarok: I haven't had KJots installed. Now I installed it and I have a Notes component in Kontact. But the Notes from KNotes and KJots seem to be distinct from each other. Kind of confusing...
[15:01] <Mamarok> those are different apps, it's getting stranger and stranger :)
[15:02] <kyle_> i deleted it and it still goes to pulse
[15:03] <SteBo> Mamarok: Yes, the notes-component in Kontact is KJots... the systray-thing is KNotes.... reminds me about KEdit, KWrite, Kate, ... ;-)
[15:03] <genii> AceKing: From before the netsplit: Usually from within the Add/Remove system... I am on an older version which uses Adept, if you have that go to "Edit software sources" or so on bottom left and then check off "Community-maintained Open-source software"
[15:04] <AceKing> Ok
[15:04] <Mamarok> SteBo: right, very strange, I always assumed it was Knotes that was used by Kontact
[15:04] <AceKing> Let me check
[15:04] <genii> AceKing: The newer system of kpackage ot so I don't know yet.
[15:05] <SteBo> Mamarok: Me too. Hopefully these apps will be unified one day. Makes no sense to have ones notes distributed in different apps.
[15:05] <Mamarok> exactly
[15:05] <AceKing> There is nothing there that I see
[15:06] <kyle_> i just want to delete the pulse drive
[15:06] <kyle_> i dont know why its even there
[15:07] <AceKing> How would I do an install from the extracted folder?
[15:08] <Mamarok> kyle_: I think it comes in through another app, like libxine1-all-plugins
[15:08] <Mamarok> kyle_: there already is a bug filed for that in Launchpd
[15:09] <kyle_> whens the launchpd and how an i get it
[15:09] <kyle_> i like my media more than anything.. and it was perfectly fine yesterday
[15:09] <Mamarok> kyle_: it will not help you, there is no fix for that bug yet I fear
[15:10] <kyle_> damn
[15:10] <Mamarok> kyle_: did you remove the phonondevicesrc file?
[15:10] <kyle_> is ur media working?
[15:10] <kyle_> yup
[15:10] <kyle_> still no improvements
[15:10] <Mamarok> kyle_: it works when I start KDE again
[15:10] <pushrax> question. any hints on a ISO mount that will act as a dvd once mounted, not a part of the filesystem of the hd?
[15:11] <Mamarok> pushrax: could you reformulate your question please? not that clear to me
[15:12] <pushrax> sorry should say that again.  isot hat also triggers as a device
[15:12] <Mamarok> pushrax: I still don't get it, maybe someone else, sry :)
[15:12] <pushrax> Mamarok: I have a windows game dvd which I want to mount to install through wine
[15:12] <Mamarok> oh, right
[15:12] <pushrax> Mamarok: using fuseiso to mount the image but it's not triggering the device list
[15:13] <pushrax> Mamarok: even though I can see the mnount files in the place I mounted it to
[15:13] <kyle_> im going to try reformating it
[15:13] <kyle_> cause it was working when i first installed
[15:13] <AceKing> genii: Did you mean you don't know if it would work for me?
[15:13] <Mamarok> pushrax: can't you just mount it as a normal device and then launch the install.exe?
[15:14] <Mamarok> kyle_: what do you want to reformat?
[15:14] <pushrax> Mamarok: yep but the game will want to think it's a cd/dvd as there's two iso's
[15:14] <pushrax> Mamarok: I think I can tell winecgf to read the directory as a drive letter.
[15:14] <genii> AceKing: Since I'm not familiar with the newer default package manager (which is named something like kpackagekit) If you are using that and not Adept someone else would need to tell you how to enable "universe" repository in that application.
[15:14] <kyle_> kubuntu
[15:14] <Mamarok> pushrax: oh, now I get it, but still, I'm not a wine expert, you have to find someone else to help you, sry
[15:14] <pushrax> Mamarok: the game is Retun to Krondor. It probably wont work anyway
[15:15] <Mamarok> kyle_: don't, that will not solve your prblem
[15:15] <Mamarok> kyle_: formatting is a Windows solution to a non-solution, no need to do that in Windows
[15:15] <kyle_> well it was working when i installed it yesterday
[15:15] <pushrax> Mamarok: I've workied it out.  I thought there maybe a application that did it all.  I tried a gtk one but it couldn't detect the image as iso
[15:15] <AceKing> genii: Ok, thanks for helping me
[15:15] <Mamarok> still, you don't have to reformat your drive, it's useless
[15:16] <genii> AceKing: You're welcome
[15:16] <kyle_> well there is no solution lol
[15:16] <Mamarok> kyle_: yes, there is, remove the phonondevicesrc, then start kde again
[15:16] <SteBo> Bye! Thanks for your support! :-)
[15:16] <kyle_> im going to try a day of googling reformat for a answere and if theres nothing im going to
[15:16] <Mamarok> SteBo: bye...
[15:16] <kyle_> alright
[15:17] <Mamarok> kyle_: reformat is not a solution
[15:17] <Mamarok> not in Linux
[15:17] <Mamarok> right, so much for patience...
[15:18] <genii> Mamarok: Kids these days. ;)
[15:18] <Mamarok> genii: ;)
[15:19] <Mamarok> I have to go, still some work lying around here...
[15:23] <bentob0x> hi, for some reason I cannot listen to amarok and having sound on a flash video at the same time.  It depends on what software I start first.  If I start Amarok, play music and then watch youtube, Amarok has sound and not youtube and vice versa.  This is also true with amarok/VLC or VLC/flash etc
[15:24] <bentob0x> it seems that whatever the first software that 'takes' control of the sound card will keep it without sharing it
[15:24] <Mamarok> bentob0x: do you have pulseaudio installed?
[15:25] <bentob0x> yes Mamarok
[15:25] <bentob0x> 9.04
[15:25] <Mamarok> bentob0x: there you have the culprit
[15:25] <bentob0x> ah
[15:25] <Mamarok> try to remove as many pulseaudio packages you can
[15:25] <bentob0x> :(
[15:25] <Mamarok> then remove .kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc
[15:25] <Mamarok> restart kde
[15:26] <pucko-> is pulseaudio not compatible with kde, or is it just that pulseaudio is buggy?
[15:26] <Mamarok> it will work for some time, but no guarantee
[15:26] <Mamarok> pulseudio is buggy
[15:26] <Mamarok> and kde doesn't need it, it's getting installed by some other app
[15:26] <bentob0x> can I not install the dev packages for instance?
[15:26] <Mamarok> bentob0x: how could that help?
[15:27] <bentob0x> might be an update that fix things up but that isn't yet into mainstream packages?
[15:27] <Mamarok> bentob0x: the dev packages don't update stuff, they only give you packages needed for development
[15:28] <Mamarok> so unless you are a developer you don't need them
[15:28] <Mamarok> bentob0x: actually, I have the same problem than you do, since Jaunty Alpha 6
[15:31] <Mamarok> ok, I'm off for now, later
[15:31] <genii> Mamarok: Have fun.
[15:32] <bentob0x> Mamarok: yes, it started with the 9.04 RC
[15:45] <asiBenlik> türkçe bilen var mı? aramızda
[15:46] <genii> !tr
[15:51] <eagles0513875> is there an mirc client for linux
[15:53] <geek_> eagles0513875: no.
[15:53] <eagles0513875> :( ok or somethign that is based of mirc
[15:53] <geek_> there are many IRC clients, but mirc woul need to run in wine
[15:53] <eagles0513875> geek_: all i really need is something that will work wiht mirc written scripts
[15:53] <Laeborg> !squid
[15:57] <Dragnslcr> eagles0513875- most IRC clients support scripting, they just use a real language instead of the annoying mIRC language
[15:58] <Dragnslcr> eagles0513875- unfortunately, neither Konversation nor Quassel can do event-based triggers
[15:58] <eagles0513875> ok Dragnslcr thanks
[15:59] <eagles0513875> reason im asking is there is this friends msn based chatrooms that if you dont have ie you can use this mirc script to connect
[15:59] <geek_> eagles0513875: wine !
[16:00] <eagles0513875> ok geek just explaining what im trying to do
[16:04] <ToreadorVampire> Urgh :(  Well that was a frustrating hour, or however long that took
[16:05] <eagles0513875> anyone else on quassel who has a nick that is cloaked
[16:06] <ToreadorVampire> So - first annoyance with the new network manager basically seems to have no solution except "cripple kwallet" :(
[16:07] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: are you trying out the newer snapshot that is in kubuntu-experimental ppa
[16:07] <reinhold> After upgrading to jaunty, my Xorg permanently uses between 20 and 100% CPU and the fan is on permanently. Does anyone have an idea what might be wrong?
[16:07] <ToreadorVampire> eagles0513875> No, I'm using the Jaunty repos/stable version
[16:08] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: there is a way you can bypass kwallet and using the network manager widget
[16:08] <eagles0513875> its not pretty though
[16:08] <reinhold> BTW, my graphics card is a 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[16:08] <ToreadorVampire> This is a production machine, so I don't like installing any software from svn
[16:08] <ToreadorVampire> eagles0513875> Ack, I asked that ~an hour ago and was told "no you can't"
[16:08] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: last night i was working on getting a connection and i was able to but using a static ip and not dhcp
[16:09] <Dragnslcr> reinhold- I know there have been issues with the Intel drivers lately, but I don't know any of the details. The wiki and/or forums probably have plenty of info though
[16:09] <eagles0513875> if you are willing to use a static ip its a quick easy fix and just ignore the network manager all together
[16:09] <eagles0513875> reinhold: the release notes have mention of issues with intel graphics
[16:09] <ToreadorVampire> Anyway - I have crippled kwallet now and it works kind-of-satisfactorially, except I'm aware that kwallet is basically now doing basically nothing
[16:09] <ToreadorVampire> IE:  I configured kwallet with an empty/blank password
[16:09] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: is this wired connection or wifi
[16:10] <ToreadorVampire> eagles0513875> wifi
[16:10] <eagles0513875> then my solution wont apply :(
[16:11] <eagles0513875> my solution was for a wired desktop though
[16:11] <ToreadorVampire> I have no problems with my wired connection, but the wifi connection I use pretty much daily - I got so angry that network-manager was storing the wireless key in kwallet, because it caused a kwallet "open your wallet" dialog immediately on logging in :(
[16:11] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: granted but actually i like it storing my pass in there
[16:12] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: from what i have been testing of a newer snapshot of it even if you dc close the wallet entierly dc your wifi connection then have it auto connect it will auto connect without kwallet even open
[16:13] <ToreadorVampire> Anyway - second annoyance is that in "Use manual DNS" mode the manually-configured DNS servers go below the DHCP-handed-out DNS servers in my resolv.conf
[16:13] <ToreadorVampire> And that's a pain, I want my manually-configured DNS server FIRST (because it is providing me with overrides for my local network)
[16:13] <mkargar> how to install packages from way kubuntu DVD's?
[16:14] <eagles0513875> also be warned about another issue and upstream dev and i cannot be sure if this is caused by a driver issue or something else. there is obviously a hardware switch to control turning on and off the card as well as a software one and sometimes the software one turns the hardware off causing the software to work but only partially and eventually youll dc from your network and the only way to reconnect is to reboot.
[16:14] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: there is an option
[16:15] <eagles0513875> ToreadorVampire: open up your wifi connection you should see dhcp with manual dns. a reboot will be required to get that up and running as i have found out using static ip on wifi
[16:15] <ToreadorVampire> But - I can't seem to find a way of getting network manager to prioritise my own manually configured DNS server :(  I was wondering if there was a way to catch that as network manager writes to /etc/resolv.conf - and either delete the DHCP-given DNS server or move it to the bottom of the list
[16:15] <ikonia> surly if it's a driver issue it will depend on the network card ?
[16:15] <ToreadorVampire> eagles0513875> Nah, I tried that - it does add my manually-configured DNS server into my /etc/resolv.conf but not in the order I wanted it
[16:15] <eagles0513875> ikonia: thats a possibility as well thing is neither the upstream dev nor i can be sure at this point
[16:16] <ToreadorVampire> The DNS server I manually configured goes below the one that DHCP gave me
[16:16] <ToreadorVampire> I want it above
[16:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: thats what I mean, if it was a network card driver issue wouldn't it be speciic to a network card
[16:16] <ToreadorVampire> Because the DNS system uses DNS servers in the order it finds them
[16:16] <ikonia> eagles0513875: or are you suggesting it's a problem with all wireless network card open/closed source ?
[16:17] <ubuntu99> hmm quassel irc looks nice
[16:17] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i dunno as of right now i have yet to see another bug of the same issue. dunno right now if its with all open and closed sourc cards
[16:18] <peaches> ubuntu99: yeah kvirc is good too
[16:18] <ikonia> eagles0513875: well.......if no-one else has mentioned it yet, I doubt it's "all" cards
[16:18] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im starting to think its the b43-fwcutter reverse engineerd driver
[16:19] <eagles0513875> Peace-: there is a newer snapshot of it in kubuntu-experimental if you want to be able to test out the themes feature
[16:19] <ikonia> eagles0513875: a specific card/module is a possability
[16:19] <eagles0513875> miss type peaches see what i said above
[16:19] <ikonia> eagles0513875: why are you suggesting people start using experimental
[16:19] <peaches> eagles0513875: oh i compile the svn
[16:19] <ikonia> eagles0513875: this is support
[16:20] <eagles0513875> sry i go back to trying to get crysis to work under wine
[16:20] <ToreadorVampire> lol
[16:20] <peaches> eagles0513875: i saw a youtube video about that. it had horrible graphics in the end though
[16:20] <ubuntu99> cu && have a nice day
[16:21] <eagles0513875> peaches: pm
[16:23] <mkargar> how to install packages from way kubuntu DVD's?
[16:29] <baxeico> hi, i've a question. kde 4.2.3 will be ever published as a recommended update to Kubuntu Jaunty?
[16:32] <JontheEchidna> baxeico: eventually, it'll need a bit of testing first to make sure there are no regressiosn
[16:33] <baxeico> thanks
[16:33] <kyle_> im having problems with my wireless not saving my SSID and security key
[16:34] <kyle_> so each time i log in i have to re-tye it
[16:34] <TefZe1_> i have the same probleme
[16:34] <ikonia> JontheEchidna: do you have 2 minutes for a pm please ?
[16:34] <TefZe1_> the only way to save it is to use kdewallet
[16:36] <kyle_> KD wallet starts up on start up.. and im 99% sure i already saved it on it
[16:36] <kyle_> still having problems
[16:38] <JontheEchidna> ikonia: sure
[16:47] <draik> Hello everyone. Quick question. How do I get DVD playback to work? I followed all instructions and made the necessary upgrades
[16:52] <jason_froebe> !medibuntu
[16:52] <jason_froebe> draik - follow instructions for installing the medibuntu repos
[16:55] <mandingoceo> got a question im have been getting my ass kicked i have 810 installed with alsa 19 but i cant get my audio working over hdmi
[16:56] <eagles0513875> !ohmy | mandingoceo
[16:56] <mandingoceo> k
[16:59] <mandingoceo> can any1 help me with audio from hdmi under kubuntu 810 with alsa 19
[17:03] <jussi01> mandingoceo: can you explain a little more of what you have done, and exactly what isnt working?
[17:03] <draik> How do I get DVD playback to work? I followed all of the instructions and made the necessary upgrades. DVD playback won't work because of encryption.
[17:05] <icewind> draik:do you have the medibuntu packages installed?
[17:05] <draik> icewind: Yes.
[17:06] <icewind> draik:can you make sure that you also installed libdvdcss2
[17:06] <BluesKaj> draik , kubuntu-restricted-extras , ffmpeg
[17:07] <draik> icewind: Yes, I did that
[17:07] <BluesKaj> did what ?
[17:07] <mandingoceo> well i installed 810 and all updates with alsa 19 but i cant get audio over hdmi
[17:08] <a_ok> although LOCK_SCREEN=true i still do not get a lock when i hibernate
[17:08] <draik> BluesKaj: libdvdcss2
[17:08] <pucko-> mandingoceo, are you using an intel video card?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> draik , install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:09] <mandingoceo> oh sorry no its onboard geforce 8200
[17:09] <BluesKaj> it contains the updated version of libdvdcss
[17:09] <icewind> draik:did you try it with multiply dvds?
[17:09] <draik> Lost internet. :(
[17:10] <kyle__> im having problems saving my icons in the quick launch widget
[17:10] <kyle__> as soon as i restart it goes back to default
[17:11] <mandingoceo> pucko any ideas
[17:12] <draik_> BluesKaj: Sorry, I lost internet connection on the desktop
[17:12] <mandingoceo> i have been fighting this for about a week and i dont know what im doing wrong
[17:12] <draik_> Sadly, that still happens after the upgrade to 9.04
[17:12] <afeijo> I had to install from the scratch 9.04 last night
[17:15] <icewind> draij_:did you try multiply dvd's?
[17:15] <draik_> icewind: multiply dvds?
[17:16] <draik_> Got it. It works now. Thanks BluesKaj. I guess I was just missing the extra codecs.
[17:16] <icewind> draik_: if you tried it with one or with more dvds
[17:16] <draik_> icewind: It's an ISO and no, I haven't tried it otherwise
[17:16] <pucko-> mandingoceo, sorry, no. but I assume nvidia has some documentation about it?
[17:17] <BluesKaj> draik_, yeah libdvdcss2 was fine for hardy but the latest restricted extras includes it so as to save time
[17:18] <draik_> BluesKaj: Great. Thanks for the help on the package
[17:19] <BluesKaj> draik_, np :)
[17:24] <eagles0513875> how can i force umount to unmount a device
[17:24] <icewind> umount -f I think
[17:24] <kyle__> does anyone know if theres a p2p like lime wire for kubuntu
[17:25] <icewind> kyle_:frostwire
[17:26] <kyle__> thanks
[17:26] <genii> eagles0513875: You should start reading more of the manpages ;)
[17:26] <eagles0513875> genii: i do
[17:27] <eagles0513875> this is upsetting it keeps telling me 2nd cd that is in drive and not installing anything that device is busy
[17:29] <Dragnslcr> kyle__- if you're looking for just a BitTorrent client, ktorrent works well
[17:30] <maco> what package provides the "gtk themes" section of systemsettings -> appearance? that whole chunk is missing from above emoticons on the left
[17:30] <genii> eagles0513875: If you have something using the mountpoint it won't be able to umount. like if command prompt is in /media/cdrom       or file browser is looking at it, etc etc
[17:31] <kyle__> yeh i got my torrents
[17:31] <eagles0513875> genii: i have an installer in wine running that is all and if i cancel it then the install gets cancelled
[17:31] <kyle__> but sometimes i like downloading single songs
[17:32] <devilsadvocate> kyle__: i believe amule works
[17:34] <NADIE__> hi
[17:35] <cinex> hi
[17:35] <icewind> hi
[17:35] <i3ooi3oo> higher
[17:35]  * i3ooi3oo wins
[17:36] <draik_> highest
[17:36] <i3ooi3oo> damn did not thinkg of that
[17:36] <icewind> higherest
[17:37] <draik_> most higherst
[17:37] <Deekay> yo, how do i add the Knetworkmanager icon to the systray?
[17:38] <Deekay> actually i don't even know where that program went after i downloaded it
[17:38] <icewind> more higherest
[17:38] <icewind> I think just by starting knetworkmanager
[17:38] <Deekay> where do i even find it, its not showing here
[17:38] <cinex> u could put knetworkmanager.desktop into ~/.kde/Autostart
[17:38] <eagles0513875> Deekay: just type knetworkmanager in konsole and it will start
[17:39] <icewind> or you can use alt+f2
[17:39] <Deekay> now it will boot when i start kubuntu?
[17:40] <icewind> for that you can do what cinex said
[17:40] <Kovert> !sslnow
[17:40] <Kovert> !rssnow
[17:41] <i3ooi3oo> !spam
[17:41] <Kovert> ? after upgrading to jaunty I find the rssnow engine is notr installed
[17:41] <Kovert> how can I fix
[17:41] <eagles0513875> !info rssnow
[17:41] <icewind> Deekay:copying "/usr/share/applications/knetworkmanager.desktop" to "/home/username/.kde/autostart"
[17:41] <icewind> will make networkmanager start with kde
[17:41] <eagles0513875> Kovert: it doesnt exist in jaunty
[17:41] <Kovert> eagles0513875: however the plazmoid still does
[17:43] <Deekay> thanks ^.^
[17:44] <eagles0513875> Kovert: from looking at it on the widget open up settings and set the rssfeeds you want to connect to
[17:45] <Kovert> eagles0513875: correct however if the engine is not installed it doesnt work
[17:46] <eagles0513875> Kovert: do you mind asking in plasma about that not sure the status of development of that widget
[17:46] <Kovert> ok there is a plasma channel?
[17:47] <eagles0513875> Kovert: yep
[17:47] <eagles0513875> im in there as well Kovert
[17:54] <beagleburt> G'day from New Zealand evry1- K-6.06 LTS (Desktop) expires next month - will there be a new  3xyr cycle started with a new LTS version? - OR - will one have to do a fresh Install of K-8.04 LTS which will result in LESS than 3xyrs support?
[17:58] <tsimpson> beagleburt: Kubuntu 8.04 is not LTS, but the base is. so it's only the KDE packages which have the standard 18 month support
[17:59] <ranieri> salve
[18:03] <BluesKaj> !it | ranieri
[18:05] <ranieri> grazie e scusate
[18:16] <Oceanwatcher> Just upgraded to KDE 4.2.3 and my favourite annoyance is gone! Very happy to see things improving!
[18:17] <rmrfslash> Oceanwatcher: 4.2.3?
[18:17] <Oceanwatcher> Thank you for making the best OS I have used so far!
[18:19] <rmrfslash> ooooooo
[18:19] <rmrfslash> 4.2.3 :)
[18:19] <SSJ_GZ> Oceanwatcher: Which annoyance was that? :)
[18:20] <Oceanwatcher> rmrfslash: Yes, you are probably on 4.2.2, but 4.2.3 has been made available in a ppa. Check this post: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3103637.0
[18:20] <eagles0513875> rmrfslash: the link is on the front of kubuntu.org site :)
[18:20] <rmrfslash> eagles0513875: I see that.... haven't been on there in a while
[18:21] <Oceanwatcher> SSJ_GZ: The bug where you get a lot of confirmation dialog boxes if you have a contact with more than one e-mail address. I have 1600+ addresses and many of them have multiple addresses....
[18:21] <Oceanwatcher> Moving around in the addressbook was a major pain!
[18:21] <SSJ_GZ> Oceanwatcher: Ouch!
[18:21] <Oceanwatcher> SSJ_GZ: But it is solved in KDE 4.2.3 that I just upgraded to. Happy today :-D
[18:22] <SSJ_GZ> Un-ouch!
[18:22] <cuznt> i need to upgrade from 3.5
[18:22] <e-jat> Oceanwatcher: hows 4.2.3 ?
[18:22] <e-jat> im otw upgrading it now ..
[18:23] <Oceanwatcher> e-jat: So far pretty boring... It just works :-D I have to go through all of the release notes to find out more about the improvements.
[18:23] <e-jat> Oceanwatcher: :)
[18:23] <nameiner> When will KDE 4.2.3 be available in the normal repos?
[18:24] <rmrfslash> I added this to the Third Part software sources list
[18:24] <eagles0513875> anyone know the gpg key for the repo that kde 4.2.3 is in
[18:24] <rmrfslash> refresh, nothin
[18:24] <Oceanwatcher> nameiner: Check http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3103637.0
[18:24] <rmrfslash> Do I need to check off
[18:24] <eagles0513875> nameiner: i dont think for some time as upstream kde released it bout 3 days ago or so
[18:24] <rmrfslash> "Pre-released updates"
[18:25] <Oceanwatcher> eagles0513875: The info is in the thread I just mentioned
[18:25] <eagles0513875> Oceanwatcher: thanks hard to see when everyone hyped over 4.2.3
[18:26] <Oceanwatcher> eagles0513875: I can find the link for you.
[18:26] <eagles0513875> i found it is it the forum post
[18:26] <rmrfslash> Oceanwatcher: did you just put the new deb listing in Kpackagekit Third Party Updates list and reload?
[18:28] <Oceanwatcher> brb
[18:28] <rmrfslash> I see why. When I run apt-get update I get the error: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[18:28] <rmrfslash> and I forgot how to fix this.
[18:30] <eagles0513875> Oceanwatcher: thanks for that link it worked
[18:32] <kyle__> hey whats the point of the dash board?
[18:32] <e-jat> rmrfslash:
[18:32] <e-jat> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys ####
[18:32] <e-jat> gpg --export --armor #### | sudo apt-key add -
[18:32] <rmrfslash> Trying this
[18:33] <e-jat> replace #### with ppa pubkey
[18:33] <rmrfslash> e-jat: gpgkeys: key 2836CB0A8AC93F7A not found on keyserver
[18:33] <e-jat> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com ####
[18:33] <rmrfslash> e-jat: there we go
[18:34] <e-jat> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[18:34]  * genii sips
[18:34] <rmrfslash> e-jat: works
[18:34] <rmrfslash> e-jat: thanks! :)
[18:35] <e-jat> rmrfslash: welcome ..
[18:35] <rmrfslash> e-jat: I consistently get a gwenview blocked update. What am I supposed to do w/ this? Any idea?
[18:35] <rmrfslash> e-jat: I got this after upgradin from 8.10
[18:35] <afeijo> I cant install vmware 1.0.9 on kubuntu 9.04, some error with vmmon
[18:35] <afeijo> in the config.pl part
[18:36] <rmrfslash> afeijo: vmware player?
[18:36] <afeijo> rmrfslash: server
[18:37] <e-jat> rmrfslash: no idea .. sorry
[18:37] <afeijo> ok
[18:37] <rmrfslash> afeijo: I have experience w/ workstation/player and ESX (Infrastructure) so I can't help w/ this one.
[18:37] <genii> afeijo: They may know more or some fix, etc in #vmware
[18:38] <afeijo> oh yeah
[18:39] <genn28> i've got some problems with my microphone in kubuntu 9.04
[18:40] <genn28> could you help me?
[18:40] <nameiner> genn28: if you tell us what your problem is, we can try to help
[18:40] <genn28> ok. thnks
[18:41] <genn28> i've got laptop BENQ s53e
[18:41] <genn28> 0:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04) - my sound card
[18:42] <genn28> i cannot use mic in all applications
[18:42] <genn28> but i listen to music, watch movies and etc
[18:43] <nameiner> genn28: did you change anything in the mixer already?
[18:43] <david__> having problems updating jaunty http://pastebin.com/m23cc906 any help appreciated
[18:43] <e-jat> afeijo: try look at this bugs .. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/363462
[18:44] <genn28> http://kubuntu.ru/node/3905#comment-26733 - could you see images from 1 post
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> david__: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:45] <genn28> it's my alsamixer snapshot
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> david__: comment out the line that references the Jaunty CD
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> david__: put a # character at the start of the line and it will be ignored
 genn28: did you change anything in the mixer already?  - can you check my snapshot
[18:46] <nameiner> genn28: I have not worked with alsamixer yet
[18:49] <nameiner> genn28: are you OK with trying something in Kmix?
[18:50] <genn28> i tryed, but it doesn't work
[18:50] <david__> ActtionParsnip how do i save it after i put the # sighn?
[18:50] <genn28> i can snapshot of my kmix for you
[18:51] <genn28> should i do?
[18:52] <nameiner> genn28: that would be good
[18:52] <genn28> ok. wait a minute
[18:53] <nameiner> genn28: where is your micro plugged in? front or back? or is it build in?
[18:53] <david__> ActtionParsnip also have 4 blocked updates what do i do with them?
[18:53] <genn28> i think it is front. my laptop has got one jack for mic
[18:55] <Oceanwatcher> I am back. Sorry, had to have a quick late lunch with the family.
[18:55] <afeijo> thanks e-jat
[18:55] <e-jat> afeijo: welcome
[18:56] <Oceanwatcher> eagles0513875: Just in case you did not find the key yet: I saved the text in this file: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A as a text file and imported it as the key.
[18:57] <genn28> есть из россии ко-нибудь?
[18:57] <Oceanwatcher> Apart from that, if anyone else is wondering how to do things: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[18:58] <nameiner> !ru | genn28
[18:58] <kyle__> anyone know a good free ware singke player game thats not arcade like?
[18:59] <nameiner> genn28: I can read what you write (had Russian for a while in school) but I don
[18:59] <genn28> nameiner check private
[19:08] <andrew___> good evening.  is anyone available to help me figure out how to re-map the volume-slide buttons on my keyboard?  i seem to have disconnected them somehow.  i'm pretty new to kubuntu, and to linux in general.
[19:11] <nameiner> andrew__: in System Settings > Keyboard and Mouse you can set Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[19:11] <esperegu> how to select the Xorg driver?
[19:12] <andrew___> nameiner: thank you, however the shortcuts are already set properly.  for some reason, the controls don't respond.
[19:12] <bob_> how do I install tar-balls?
[19:12] <Ursinha> bob_, you don't :)
[19:12] <Ursinha> bob_, you have to untar it, and see what's inside
[19:13] <andrew___> i have been through a bit of a process getting my internal mic to work, which it now does.  somehow in the process i knocked out the volume-slide controls that kubuntu had mapped out of the box correctly.
[19:13] <Ursinha> if it's source code, you've to compile it, and then install
[19:13] <bob_> Ursinha: you know where some documentation that would better explain this?
[19:13] <letalor> my kpackage not working keep getting an error
[19:13] <Ursinha> bob_, it depends on the project where you got it
[19:13] <nameiner> andrew__: you can try to set custom shortcuts
[19:14] <Ursinha> bob_, you didn't find it in apt-cache search?
[19:14] <bob_> Ursinha: so a tar-ball is like a zip file then?
[19:14] <{127> hello, is there any repository where I can get kopete-cryptography for kde 4.2.3? it is not in kubuntu-ppa yet :-(
[19:14] <Ursinha> bob_, yes
[19:14] <bob_> Ursinha: thats correct, the particualr ball I want to use is at remote-exploits.org
[19:14] <andrew___> nameiner: yes, i tried to set the controls to custom shortcuts, however the new shortcuts don't respond either.  it's almost like there is something else overriding my keyboard settings.
[19:15] <Ursinha> bob_, sorry I wasn't clear, a tarball is a compressed file like a rar or a zip file
[19:15] <esperegu> Anyone knows how to select the display driver?
[19:15] <bob_> Ursinha: hmm, so whats with the makedir and checkinstall and all that?
[19:15] <bob_> Ursinha: sorry i answered my own question
[19:15] <Ursinha> bob_, :)
[19:16] <bob_> Ursinha: basicly im confused about compiling, but now that I know that, i can employ my googlefoo
[19:16] <nameiner> andrew__: did you maybe select a different master channel in Kmix? That's my last guess.
[19:16] <bob_> Ursinha: thanks for letting me waste your time
[19:17] <Ursinha> hahaha no problem bob_
[19:18] <Ursinha> bob_, thanks for using googlefoo :)
[19:18] <bob_> Ursinha: yeah man, I learned real quick that google is the *nix newb's friend
[19:19] <Ursinha> bob_, that's awesome
[19:19]  * Ursinha starts to enjoy this channel
[19:20] <bob_> Ursinha: Its because of google that im using a *nix distro in the first place. I got the conficker and said screw Microsuk.
[19:20] <Ursinha> ouch
[19:20] <andrew___> nameiner: how do i check the kmix master channel settings?
[19:20] <bob_> thats a good question
[19:21] <bob_> *cough* google *cough*
[19:21] <nameiner> andrew__: right click on the little icon in the system tray and you can "Select Master Channel..."
[19:21] <biblioteca> desconectar tudo
[19:22] <biblioteca> destravar
[19:22] <biblioteca> awee
[19:22] <andrew___> nameiner: don't have a kmix icon in system tray...is there a way to get it to show up there?  i'm on kde 4.2
[19:25] <eagles0513875> Oceanwatcher: thanks for the other alternative option i already knew about that :)
[19:25] <Pici> !br | biblioteca
[19:26] <Oceanwatcher> eagles0513875: No problem. Good that you knew :-) Did you upgrade yet?
[19:27] <ivan__> dthacker,r u busy
[19:28] <andrew___> nameiner: i see i don't have kmix installed.  i'm installing in now, will check in with the master channel thing.  thanks!
[19:29] <nameiner> andrew__: no problem, sorry that I'm not more of help
[19:30] <andrew___> nameiner: hey, good news!  i don't know how kmix got uninstalled...but now that it's back on, the keys are mapped and the mic and everything still works.  fingers crossed for the final test: reboot!
[19:30] <andrew___> with gratitude,
[19:30] <andrew___> andrew
[19:40] <esperegu> any grub experts around? I get: find /boot/grub/stage1
[19:40] <esperegu> Error 15: File not found
[19:41] <esperegu> (I did a sudo apt-get install grub)
[19:45] <oom> Where can I find a list of servers?  I noticed that Konversation doesn't provide one for you.
[19:45] <Dragnslcr> oom- servers for what network?
[19:58] <jeiworth__> say, in compiz there is an option to elevate the windows of a desktop in cube mode, so that the open windows of one desktop appear floating above the desktop when you rotate the cube.. is there a way to do this with the kde desktop effects? i haven't found any option for that so far
[19:58] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering if anyone had a working copy of the .iso file for 9.04? I've tried downloading and burning four different times of the same file, burned onto fresh CD's on both my current kubuntu and windows and keep getting Boot I/O errors when I try to load it
[19:59] <bdizzle> jeiworth__: look into 3D cube effect I believe
[19:59] <bdizzle> yes, there is an option, I'm not entirely sure what it is called though
[20:00] <jeiworth__> bdizzle: hmm thought i checked there, let me check again...
[20:00] <nameiner> I run firefox 3.0.10 on Kubuntu 9.04 and I'm used to (in 2.5) being asked with what application to open a downloaded file. Now I don't get this options anymore and have to choose the actual application file in the file system. Is there a way to change that?
[20:02] <e-jat> bdizzle: have u check the md5sum b4 u burn the ISO
[20:02] <bdizzle> okay, if you download the Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, you can get to 3D windows under Effects
[20:02] <bdizzle> not yet, I'm downloading another copy now
[20:02] <bdizzle> from a different site
[20:05] <darkham> why in jackalope live i can't run network manager properly??????????
[20:07] <bdizzle> darkham: I just read in one of the reviews that it is causing issues
[20:07] <jeiworth__> bdizzle: sorry, cant find it in the cube settings
[20:08] <bdizzle> I'm not sure then
[20:08] <darkham> bdizzle: i configure properly my "manual" wired network, i insert manually the mac address too, but nothing, network can't work
[20:08] <jeiworth__> mmh me neither  ;)
[20:08] <darkham> very annoying in 2009...
[20:08] <bdizzle> darkham: I never said I knew how to fix it, just that I was aware there was an issue
[20:08] <bdizzle> right now I'm having a hard enough time downloading the .iso file for 9.04 and burning it to a CD without a I/O error
[20:18] <darkham> network manager sucks
[20:20] <jeiworth__> hehe
[20:20] <Unksi> darkham: wicd is great if you dont need to use 3g devices
[20:23] <Makuseru> Hi, I upgraded to 9.04 from 8.04 lastnight and I cant set any resolution higher than 1024x768. When I was using 8.04 I used a program called "displayconfig-gtk" that let me force a larger resolution, but that program is no longer in 9.04.Does anyone know any other program, or any other way to force a larger resolution?
[20:24] <jussi01> Makuseru: your graphics card is?
[20:24] <Makuseru> jussi01: ATI Radeon 9200.
[20:25] <jussi01> hrm
[20:25]  * jussi01 doesnt know this in 9.04 terms, tbh
[20:25] <Makuseru> One card before the cutoff for using flgrx.
[20:25] <jussi01> Makuseru: yeah, I had one not too long ago, but before jaunty and it just worked...
[20:26] <Makuseru> If i could just get this program to install i could use it, but even as a .deb i can't get it to install.
[20:27] <jussi01> Makuseru: I _think_ thats because xorg has changed significantly
[20:27] <Makuseru> Xorg didnt handle resolution in 8.04 either.
[20:27] <i3ooi3oo> The closed source ati driver works fine...
[20:27] <jussi01> i3ooi3oo: the 9200 doesnt use that
[20:27] <i3ooi3oo> and the amdccc to control stuff like res and monitors
[20:28] <i3ooi3oo> really ?
[20:28] <jussi01> really really
[20:28] <Makuseru> In all the 6 and 7 releases I would just edit it manually, but then in 8.04 they stopped doing that so i found that program and it did it. But now that it's gone I cant figure out what to do.
[20:28] <jussi01> Makuseru: you can still edit it maunally afaik
[20:29] <jussi01> just add the parts you need
[20:29] <Makuseru> I tried, it didnt do anything.
[20:29] <coleys> Is there a way to get more effects? (Normally an ubuntu user, but kubuntu seems pretty good =p)
[20:30] <i3ooi3oo> Makuseru: http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.27&contentType=GPU+Download+Detail&ostype=Linux+x86_64&keywords=&items=20
[20:33] <bdizzle> and so yet again, K3b has frozen up while burning a disk
[20:33] <coleys> bdizzle: k3b is for burning videos right?
[20:34] <bdizzle> coleys: burning anything
[20:35] <bdizzle> I'm trying to burn the 9.04 ISO image right now
[20:35] <bdizzle> I've been trying for two hours now
[20:35] <coleys> bdizzle: ohh. okay. =) What's the Add/Remove for KDE?
[20:36] <Makuseru> i3ooi3oo: That link is just drivers for flgrx, which my card doesnt support.
[20:38] <bdizzle> coleys: which version?
[20:38] <coleys> bdizzle: 9.04
[20:38] <bdizzle> yeah, I haven't used that one yet
[20:38] <bdizzle> oh, duh, its called Adept
[20:39] <bdizzle> I'm using 8.10 on one computer, so I can look at it. Go from K-menu -> Computer -> Adept Installer
[20:40] <coleys> bdizzle: Thanks for your help :)
[20:41] <bdizzle> yup
[20:56] <bdizzle> wtf
[20:56] <bdizzle> someone help me through this please, I have been trying for three hours now to burn the 9.04 iso to a cd
[20:56] <yml> what is the recommended way to disable ipv6 on 9.04 ?
[20:57] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - what are you using to burn the cdrom?
[20:57] <bdizzle> this latest time I got it to burn, but now when I try to open it, it claims that it was unable to read the i/o slave
[20:57] <yml> I tryed this : sudo sh -c 'echo blacklist ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local' without success
[20:57] <bdizzle> k3b on kubuntu 8.04, nero on Windows XP, NTI on windows XP (different system)
[20:58] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - all fail with the i/o error?
[20:58] <bdizzle> I've already burned through 5 disks in all trying to get this to work
[20:58] <bdizzle> somehow, yeah
[20:58] <jason_froebe> same drive?
[20:58] <bdizzle> no, two different computers, same issue
[20:59] <bdizzle> when I booted  and it read, it would get me to the screen to choose language, then it would load the options (run from LiveCD, install, check disk, memory test, etc), then just freeze
[20:59] <bdizzle> each time it actually ruins the disk (CD-RW) so that it cannot even be erased to retry
[21:00] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - did you try starting with noacpi ?  just a thought
[21:01] <i3ooi3oo> Makuseru: then why is that the driver for your card per ATI ?
[21:01] <bdizzle> noacpi ?
[21:01] <Makuseru> i3ooi3oo: I don't know. I just know my card is too old for fglrx.
[21:02] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - when you get to the boot screen, select the livecd, but hit F6 (I think) for more options.  add "noapic" to the command line
[21:02] <i3ooi3oo> where did you hear that ?
[21:02] <jason_froebe> then hit enter
[21:02] <jason_froebe> sorry noacpi
[21:02] <bdizzle> I can't, the CD is messing up again
[21:03] <bdizzle> let me see if I can try to burn yet another CD
[21:03] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - can you try another cd drive in that computer?
[21:03] <bdizzle> not with the burner
[21:04] <yml> this does not work either ?
[21:04] <ghoulsblade> good evening to all, i just started that update manager from jaunty to hardy, and it says 17 hours remaining for downloading packets (i have low bandwidth), when i shutdown the computer and restart it later, does it have to restart all over ?
[21:04] <yml> sudo sh -c 'echo alias net-pf-10 off >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local'
[21:04] <bdizzle> hold on, the CD that was only partly working has been over written and I'd love to throw the disks into a microwave right now just for stress relief
[21:04] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - gotcha..  you may want to try installing via a usb thumbdrive - requires a 2gb or larger thumbdrive
[21:04] <ghoulsblade> (from hardy to jaunty even)
[21:04] <bdizzle> give me 10 minutes
[21:04] <jason_froebe> k
[21:05] <bdizzle> alright, what is this about installing from USB? I've heard of it, but never done it before
[21:05] <jason_froebe> ghoulsblade - if you stop update manager, you might not have a useable installation - better to either let it run all night or install from the alternate cd
[21:06] <bdizzle> then just hope like hell that wicd doesn't have any major dependency issues, as I heard that the wireless system is messed up on 9.04
[21:06] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - take a look at unetbootin - it will create a bootable linux installer for various distros - works on linux/windows
[21:07] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - the only problem I ran into with the wireless is that to use it, you have to open kwallet
[21:07] <ghoulsblade> jason_froebe, hmm that'd be bad, but i'm afraid letting it run is not an option.  i was just wondering wether it was worth letting it download for a few hours now, or if it would be all in vain anyway
[21:07] <jason_froebe> which may need a password
[21:07] <Makuseru> !ati
[21:08] <jason_froebe> ghoulsblade - understood, your best bet then is to download the alternate cd iso and upgrade from it
[21:08] <ghoulsblade> ok, thanks =)
[21:10] <bdizzle> jason_froebe: can you help me out over PM with it? I downloaded it for the linux side and it comes up "access denied" through a wine prompt
[21:10] <jason_froebe> no no - you need to download the linux version and then run it with sudo
[21:10] <jason_froebe> ^^ for bdizzle
[21:10] <bdizzle> ah
[21:10] <bdizzle> okay
[21:11] <bdizzle> sudo what?
[21:11] <bdizzle> sudo <filename> ?
[21:11] <yao_ziyuan> kubuntu sucks
[21:11] <yao_ziyuan> kicker menu takes 1 sec to open
[21:11] <Cugel> Hello people.
[21:12] <bdizzle> nevermind, I'll download it in windows where it has the GUI interface
[21:12] <yao_ziyuan> manually compiled kde4 takes no time
[21:12] <Cugel>  Question: is there a way of getting the 2.1 beta of Amarok on Kubuntu Intrepid? I'm not too astounded by 2.0.1 so far.
[21:14] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - one sec
[21:15] <afeijo> this will be weird... my kNotes dont work the color options! it is transparent :( very anoying
[21:15] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - how to (from windows) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397  looking for a howto for ubuntu
[21:17] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - here is a youtube video for ubuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIdQ_N8nwZw
[21:17] <afeijo> anyone know how to reset my knotes entirely?
[21:17] <bdizzle> yeah, I've got it running over windows on my desktop right now
[21:18] <jason_froebe> zao_ziyuan - right click on kicker and select "classic menu" - much faster
[21:18] <jason_froebe> :)
[21:23] <afeijo> how to uninstall a widget ?
[21:24] <bdizzle> jason_froebe: okay, so it installed, I booted, and it just went to GRUB, it didn't read the jump drive
[21:24] <jeremy__> Hi everyone
[21:25] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - you will need to tell your computer to boot off of usb.  usually it is F12 when starting but you might have to change the bios to enable it
[21:26] <jason_froebe> afeijo - a widget?
[21:26] <bdizzle> yeah, I'm checking. USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, USB-CDROM, USB-HDD ?
[21:26] <bdizzle> FDD?
[21:26] <afeijo> jason_froebe: yes, my notes widget have a problem, I was thinking in remove it from my widget list, and than click on the install new widgets to download it again
[21:26] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - usb-hdd is my guess
[21:27] <jeremy__> I'm a kubuntu newbie, and am having some trouble getting openssh working, if anyone has a few seconds to help
[21:28] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ - outgoing or incoming?
[21:29] <biblioteca> seus bichasss
[21:30] <afeijo> !br | biblioteca
[21:30] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ - in the chatroom please - I have private chat disabled
[21:30] <jeremy__> jason_froebe - np, my bad
[21:31] <jeremy__> jason_froebe - incoming - It's on a private LAN not connected to the internet, and all I want is to ssh via my single user's password, but it keeps telling me it's incorrect.
[21:32] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ when you try "ssh login@localhost" does it still say bad password?  (replacing login with whatever login you're trying)
[21:32] <jeremy__> jason_froebe yup.
[21:32] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ but when you log into the console, it works?
[21:33] <jeremy__> jason_froebe that's right.  password works everywhere else for the user.
[21:34] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ - check your /etc/ssh/sshd_config to make sure 1) that the user is not disallowed from logging in via ssh 2) password authentication is allowed
[21:34] <jeremy__> jason_froebe k, just a sec.
[21:34] <jason_froebe> brb
[21:37] <jeremy__> jason_froebe yeah, all looks good there.  PasswordAuthentication is on, and the user is not explicitly disallowed.
[21:38] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ - if you "su - login", that works?  if so, something might be screwy with the pam setup
[21:39] <gesgeor> hi
[21:39] <gesgeor> is kde 4.2.3 available for intrepid ?
[21:40] <jeremy__> jason_froebe hmm, if I do that, it tells me "Cannot execute zsh: No such file or directory"
[21:41] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ check their entry in /etc/passwd - their shell might not be installed (zsh) but that shouldn't cause a password denied
[21:41] <jason_froebe> error
[21:42] <jason_froebe> oh wait, it would
[21:42] <jeremy__> jason_froebe aha! I'm an idiot - I totally didn't prefix the shell entry in /etc/passwd with "/bin/".  Just had "zsh".
[21:42] <jeremy__> jason_froebe thanks for the help man, that would've driven me up a wall. ;)
[21:43] <jason_froebe> jeremy__ no worries... :)
[21:43] <ja2ui0> I'm beating my head against the wall trying to automatically mount my usb drives at bootup in jaunty, which worked fine in hardy.
[21:43] <dekkong> Hello guys .. .I have major flash lags, dont know why
[21:43] <dekkong> cant even visit some websites because of lag
[21:43] <gaetan> salut
[21:44] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - check your udev scripts /etc/udev/ - they were probably overwritten
[21:44] <ja2ui0> it is a fresh install
[21:45] <nameiner> Does anybody know why firefox doesn't give me options with what application to open a downloaded file? Or how to get that back.
[21:45] <ja2ui0> I've checked forums and googled for about the past 4 hours
[21:46] <ja2ui0> after adding usb_storage to /etc/modules, the usb drives all show up in /dev/disks
[21:46] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - if you want the usb drives automatically mounted at specified locations, you will need to customize the udev scripts...  google for udev usb mount
[21:48] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - so it is working correctly now?
[21:48] <genii> nameiner: From url of        about:config         what value has the variable:  browser.helperApps.neverAsk.openFile                ?
[21:48] <ja2ui0> no, i'm still reading on udev - i never had to do that in hardy
[21:48] <genii> nameiner: (you can put the name in the search bar there)
[21:49] <dbglt> hey is there something like gdebi for kde? kdebi ?
[21:49] <ja2ui0> jason_froebe - I have several lines in my fstab that look like this: LABEL=lore      /media/lore     ext3    defaults        0       0
[21:49] <ja2ui0> and that's all it took in hardy
[21:50] <ja2ui0> right now, i have to log in a session and sudo mount -a, and all 5 drives come up
[21:50] <ja2ui0> but the 0 0 should make them auto mount
[21:51] <nameiner> ja2ui0: it's false and that is not the problem. It askes me if I want to open or save the file. What I mean is, that I'm used to have a dropdown menu with applications to open the file with. And now I can only search and have to find the actual application in the file system.
[21:52] <nameiner> ja2ui0: for example: download a png-file and it offers you to open it with gwenview or gimp ...
[21:52] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - not sure why it was changed or if it is a bug.  in any case, udev script is the way to go imho
[21:53] <jussi01> nameiner: you mean edit -> preferences -> applications?
[21:54] <nameiner> jussi01: no, I mean in the box that opens when I download a file. But in the applications there is not much to change too.
[21:58] <ja2ui0> jason_froebe - so I should put in a rule like 99-mount.rules, reading something like SUBSYSTEM=="block", run+="/bin/mount -a"
[21:58] <ja2ui0> however, I don't know what the SUBSYSTEM== should be, or some other argument, if I want it to execute at boot
[21:59] <afeijo> does kubuntu come with a handwrite style font?
[22:05] <beagleburt> tsimpson: am stuck upgrading from K-6.06 > K-8.04 Plze Help!
[22:08] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[22:08] <jason_froebe> it should help
[22:09] <odlaII> will kde 4.2.3 hit 9.04 and if not is there really any reason to add the PPA and upgrade to it?
[22:13] <ja2ui0> jason_froebe - udevinfo command not found, and can't find the package that has it in kpackagemanager or apt-get
[22:14] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - udevadm provides udevinfo, so you will need to add it
[22:15] <ja2ui0> E: Couldn't find package udevadm
[22:17] <jason_froebe> my bad - udev-extras
[22:21] <ja2ui0> udev info command not found
[22:21] <ja2ui0> udevinfo*
[22:21] <jason_froebe> checking - looks like jaunty moved things around
[22:22] <billybigrigger> hey all, quick question, its a kdenlive question...im in gnome, running kdenlive, and im trying to convert an .mts (avchd) file to something i can watch on my pc, and i need to deinterlace it, well it seems my flash, h264, xvid, mpeg2, mpeg4 options are all greyed out, all i can convert to is raw dv, avi dv, realvideo or theora, is this right? did i forget to install something?
[22:22] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - /sbin/udevadm info
[22:23] <jason_froebe> billybigrigger - did you install the codecs via medibuntu repos?  !medibuntu
[22:23] <jason_froebe> !medibuntu
[22:23] <Caldavien_> does any one know if there is a way to make the analog click widget stay above all windows in kubuntu 9.04 with kde4
[22:24] <billybigrigger> jason_froebe, these formats work with everything else though...ill install medibuntu repo anyway
[22:24] <billybigrigger> also is anyone aware of something similar to kdenlive but written in gtk?
[22:26] <billybigrigger> jason_froebe, is there a codec pack i can install that will install them all in 1 shot?
[22:27] <xjjk> billybigrigger: try kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:27] <jason_froebe> billybigrigger - Cinelerra will work in place of kdenlive http://cinelerra.org/
[22:27] <billybigrigger> does cinelerra convert mts (avchd)???
[22:28] <jason_froebe> billybigrigger - you will also want to run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade to pull in ffmpeg /mencoder / etc
[22:28] <bdizzle> about how much space do I need on my hard drive partition to install just the kubuntu files. I am setting up the partitions so that the home directory is a partition on its own.
[22:28] <jason_froebe> from medibuntu repos
[22:28] <ja2ui0> none of this is helping
[22:28] <jason_froebe> billybigrigger - I think so
[22:28] <ja2ui0> thank you for your time, but this is way over my head.
[22:29] <ja2ui0> all I want to do is mount -a on boot.
[22:29] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - no worries...
[22:29] <ja2ui0> that should be really simple
[22:29] <bdizzle> anyone know about how much space 9.04 takes up without the home directory?
[22:29] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - you can put "/sbin/mount -a" in /etc/rc.local
[22:30] <Makuseru> What is the name of the window manager for kde? I seem to have lost all my window borders.
[22:30] <bdizzle> dolphin
[22:31] <SSJ_GZ> Makuseru: kwin
[22:31] <Makuseru> SSJ_GZ: Thanks.
[22:31] <SSJ_GZ> np
[22:31] <reagleBRKLN> i'm using kde 3.5.10; in kate i sometimes edit text files editing by win32 apps, and get doesn't seem to detect the latin-1, if I don't notice and save Kate will break it by saving as uf-8 is there any sort of autodetect function/plugin?
[22:31] <jason_froebe> ja2ui0 - looks like LABEL doesn't work any more in /etc/fstab according to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904  - you need to use UUID instead
[22:33] <jason_froebe> reagleBRKLN - if they are just text files, there is no way to determine what character set they are in.  if they are xml, html, rtf, etc, then yes
[22:33] <reagleBRKLN> just text files (markdown)
[22:35] <reagleBRKLN> i could keep everything in utf-8 (prefer) but then when Word 2003 opens such a file it bugs me with a dialog -- though it does guess it correclty, but wants me to confirm. keeping it in latin-1 --as windows likes -- causes me to corrupt files with kate
[22:37] <lovre> hi all
[22:38] <lovre> does anyone have an account on springerlink.com? (sorry for oftopic)
[22:39] <jason_froebe> reagleBRKLN - yup, Word scans the file looking at what it thinks are characters and makes a semi-intelligent guess as to what character set it is
[22:39] <jussi01> lovre: -> #kubuntu-offtopic please
[22:39] <lovre> jussi01: ok ty
[22:41] <bdizzle> could someone give me some quick help on the partition setup for 9.04?
[22:41] <alumno0> Hallo. I've a tv card in a computer. Do you know any program to see the tv in another computer? A program like vnc (but vnc doesn't work)
[22:42] <bdizzle> I can't get one of the partitions to write itself as an ntfs, (a bridge partition between windows and linux since its stuck due to the way they originally installed windows)
[22:42] <bdizzle> so I've got it as a FAT32, and it keeps wanting to set the mount point as /dos
[22:43] <beagleburt> G'day from New Zealand again folks! Am trying to upgrade from K-6.06 LTS > K-8.04 LTS with help from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20from%206.06%20for%20Kubuntu%20Desktops%20%28Recommended%29 but i get stuck at: "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" What do i do next, please?
[22:43] <bdizzle> if its just a normal partition with no boot files on it, why would it matter?
[22:44] <bdizzle> also, what are the differences between primary and logical drive?
[22:48] <jason_froebe> bdizzle - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(computing)  <- info on partitions
[22:49] <bdizzle> jason_froebe: I'm mostly familiar with them, but since I seem to only do them once every year or two, its something I have to nearly re-learn each time
[22:49] <tn> Hello
[22:50] <tn> I've installed kubuntu not having used linux for a while. I'm really happy to see that alot is looking good :-)
[22:52] <tn> I have a couple of questions I hope someone might know the answer to. I notice that the wireless connection only starts after loading the gui. In older linux distros the wireless connection starts as part of init.d/network. Is this a distro-thing or kde-thing?
[22:53] <tn> Secondly I notice that my cd-rom is always spinning (constantly) when there is a cd in the drive. Not a big issue, just eject when not using :-P
[22:57] <tn> I was unable to play mp3's in amarok, But a quick apt-get resolved that. Guess it's because I'm using the rc
[22:58] <alumno0> tn: About the questions. You can configure /etc/init.d/interfaces and put there the wifi parameters. About the second, My DVD have a CD and only works when I access it.
[22:59] <tn> alumno0: Cool thanx!
[22:59] <ja2ui0> here's a fun one
[23:00] <ja2ui0> I'm trying to run 'moc' remotely from my laptop on my audio server.
[23:00] <ja2ui0> as long as I'm logged in a session, console or KDE, it works fine over ssh
[23:00] <ja2ui0> but if I'm not logged in, alsa craps out
[23:00] <ja2ui0> any thoughts?
[23:07] <dylan_> shy can't my nvidia drivers installed on jaunty display 1280x1024 ? I get every other resolution less than and greater than, plus the wide screens, but no 1280x1024.. My XP installation is capable of 1280x1024 (which is what I run), on the same screen
[23:11] <lorecaster> Hey all :D Konversation was replaced by another product in 9.04, anyone have experience as to the pros and cons of that software?
[23:13] <Dragnslcr> lorecaster- I've found a couple rather minor annoyances, but so far it seems to work as well as Konversation
[23:14] <lorecaster> Dragnslcr: very good... i'm having problems with the notifications in Konversation... the .OOG files won't play... but i can listen to -most- MP3's perfectly well. am i missing a synaptic?
[23:15] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, I don't think I ever used any of the notifications in Konversation
[23:16] <lorecaster> with my dual monitors, i do some sick multitasking, i've come to rely on notifications
[23:16] <lorecaster> alas.
[23:16] <lorecaster> google it is! :D thanks anyway Dragnslcr
[23:16] <Dragnslcr> Heh, good luck
[23:17] <ja2ui0> just learned that I can execute 'sudo mocp' over ssh, and it works perfectly.  This makes me think there is a permission issue, or I could add my user to a group that might be able to make moc work without sudo.
[23:17] <ja2ui0> any idea?
[23:20]  * Cam42 is liking KDE
[23:26] <ja2ui0> in case anyone's interested, adding a user to group 'audio' solved that problem
[23:28] <Cam42> May be the wrong place to ask this, but how do I install Xfce on an ubuntu system?
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> !info xubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> That's the package you want, Cam42
[23:29] <Cam42>  In the Universe repository?
[23:31] <Cam42> nevermind, I found it.
[23:31] <Cam42> Why don't some people like KDE?
[23:33] <bfarah> help needed to install webcam on 9.04
[23:33] <bfarah> has anybody got his webcam working with 9.04????
[23:34] <Cam42> what webcam do you have?
[23:34] <bfarah> logitech quickcam 3500
[23:34] <Cam42> what happens when you plug it in?
[23:34] <bfarah> nothing
[23:34] <Cam42> hmm...
[23:34] <bfarah> no /dev/video0
[23:34] <Cam42> is it usb?
[23:34] <bfarah> yes it is
[23:35] <Cam42> did you try a different port?
[23:35] <bfarah> i was trying to install the spca5xx
[23:35] <bfarah> yes i have
[23:35] <bfarah> nothing
[23:35] <Cam42> weird.
[23:35] <bfarah> it is not been detected as i can't see it in /dev/video0
[23:35] <Cam42> is it going directly into the computer, or through a hub?
[23:35] <bfarah> yes, no hub, nothing ,
[23:35] <Cam42> I have no idea, sorry
[23:36] <bfarah> it is fine, thanks anyway, ;)
[23:37] <Cam42> yep.
[23:43] <lorecaster> I would LOVE a hand here... my Konversation program won't let me play events. The ogg files play fine in movie-player and others, but they will not play in konversation. i have the sound activated, selected, but when i click on the play button on configure notifications... nothing happens.
[23:44] <coleys> Is Quassel or Konversation better in your oppinions?
[23:44] <bob_> Is there a way to create live disc of *buntu from the desktop environment? If so where can I find out about how to do that?
[23:45] <coleys> Umm. Search Adept bob_ I know there is some, you'll probably find with search of keywords.
[23:46] <bob_> coleys: thanks
[23:46] <Magicman1264> Hi Can anyone help me with a Java problem in Firefox. I am new at this an kind of lost
[23:46] <coleys> bob_: Np :) good luck
[23:47] <coleys> Magicman1264: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[23:47] <mouka> hi all
[23:48] <mouka> anybody knows how I can view arabic newspapers with better fonts online?
[23:48] <mouka> my current fonts are extremely ugly
[23:48] <bob_> coleys: Q answered. Its and app called remastersys, thought you might want to know
[23:48] <mouka> and I know that it's possible to have way better fonts, I have seen it under openSUSE
[23:50] <mouka> anybody has any ideas as to what I can do to get better arabic fonts?
[23:51] <coleys> What you guys prefer, quassel or Konversation?
[23:51] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: kvirc =D
[23:52] <lorecaster> Konversation has a bug in the sound notifications... and i need notifications... so what do i move onto? KVIRC or Quassel?
[23:52] <coleys> Hedge|Hog: Ahh, is that gui? or...?
[23:52] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: of course
[23:52] <ign0ramus> coleys, the KDE4 port of Konversation ftw
[23:52] <coleys> Hedge|Hog: Im coming from ubuntu so i don't know KDE programs =P
[23:52] <lorecaster> yeah, GNOME here too
[23:53] <ign0ramus> coleys, http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/SVN
[23:53] <coleys> ign0ramus: Thanks!!
[23:53] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: http://files.mint-space.com/getfile,20090508225307,irc3.png.html
[23:53] <ign0ramus> coleys, np!  plus, the devs are always in #konversation if you ever have any questions
[23:53] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: just recently switched to kde myself, was very disappointed about konversation though
[23:53] <lorecaster> what about Irssi?
[23:54] <ign0ramus> lorecaster, irssi is pretty sweet too, but the question was quassel vs konversation
[23:54] <coleys> I liked the command feature that konversation has... I just noticed it, and it auto /msg nickserv'd me =p
[23:54] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: kvirc is in a fairly recent version in ubuntus repositories also
[23:54] <coleys> Ill give kvirc a try.
[23:54] <lorecaster> i asked a similar question though :P
[23:54] <coleys> Well I generally avoided any K programs just cause people make me scared of KDE =p
[23:54] <Hedge|Hog> and all that auto thinges can be done in kvirc
[23:55] <coleys> Hedge|Hog: Thanks guys, definitly will be logged in IRC... you all seem helpful.
[23:55] <Hedge|Hog> heh np
[23:55] <Magicman1264> Coleys:  After I tried what you said to do this is the message I got (0 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:55] <Magicman1264> Need to get 35.0MB of archives.
[23:55] <Magicman1264> After this operation, 101MB of additional disk space will be used.
[23:55] <Magicman1264> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? )  What do I do at this point?
[23:56] <coleys> Just waiting for 9.04 kubuntu to finish downloading =(
[23:56] <coleys> Magicman1264: Y
[23:56] <Hedge|Hog> forcing a filesystem check on boot is sudo touch /forcefsck eh?
[23:56] <coleys> Magicman1264: Type y and enter
[23:56] <Magicman1264> ok thank you
[23:56] <coleys> And as for browser, should I stick with Konqueror?
[23:57] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: definetely not
[23:57] <Hedge|Hog> konqueror is really unstable
[23:57] <coleys> Hedge|Hog: Was hoping for that answer =)
[23:57] <ign0ramus> Hedge|Hog, yes, that command will work
[23:57] <Hedge|Hog> ign0ramus: thx
[23:57] <ign0ramus> Hedge|Hog, np
[23:57] <coleys> Hedge|Hog: Suggest just firefox?
[23:57] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: ff does however look ugly in kde, follow this guide to make it look better integrated
[23:58] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: http://forum.kde.org/how-to-integrate-firefox-into-kde-t-17786.html
[23:58] <coleys> Oh thanks!
[23:58] <coleys> I really like how everything in the kde desktop is like integrated. Its pimp :p
[23:58] <ign0ramus> they *were* making a Qt-based Fx, but i think the project was abandoned :(
[23:58] <Hedge|Hog> ign0ramus: too bad
[23:59] <Hedge|Hog> konqeror as a webbrowser was a big disappintment
[23:59] <Hedge|Hog> very unstable
[23:59] <ign0ramus> Hedge|Hog, I never use konqueror as a browser
[23:59] <coleys> Dolphin or Konqueorr for file browsing?
[23:59] <ign0ramus> Hedge|Hog, i always liked it as a file manager
[23:59] <Hedge|Hog> kk
[23:59] <Hedge|Hog> coleys: basically the same =D