[01:18] <BUGabundo1> night
[09:18] <BUGabundo> !ping
[09:18] <BUGabundo> ahh this is alive
[10:46] <BUGabundo> hello cwillu . we missed u here
[10:46] <BUGabundo> cwillu: what happend to u ? X pain?
[10:48]  * BUGabundo pokes cwillu is an heavy stick, so he wakes up....
[10:49]  * BUGabundo offers a cup of coffee next
[10:53] <cwillu> BUGabundo, sorry, was afk a minute :p
[10:53] <cwillu> oddly enough, to get coffee :p
[10:54]  * cwillu pokes his coffee with a stir stick
[10:55] <BUGabundo> eheh
[10:55] <BUGabundo> glad to have u back
[10:55]  * cwillu pretends not to be creepified :p
[10:55] <BUGabundo> what took u so long?
[10:56] <cwillu> which, just now?
[10:56] <cwillu> connection issues
[10:56] <cwillu> longer term, was a miscommunication with a new job, who thought that I was willing to do road trips on a regular basis
[10:57] <BUGabundo> ahhh
[10:57] <BUGabundo> so are u doing them, or quit?
[10:57] <cwillu> nothing terribly interesting unfortunately
[10:57] <cwillu> well, we had been using the same words with different meanings, so the whole thing is being reevaluated
[10:57] <BUGabundo> hehe
[10:58] <BUGabundo> brb. geting someting to eat
[10:58] <cwillu> I still have some of their equipment sitting here, so I'm expecting to still be doing work for them
[10:58] <cwillu> sure
[10:59] <BUGabundo> back
[10:59] <cwillu> so, what's new?
[10:59] <BUGabundo> not much
[11:00] <BUGabundo> i have orders to *reduce* my Online usage
[11:00] <cwillu> heh
[11:00] <BUGabundo> its hard.... and i miss u guys
[11:00] <cwillu> how's that going for ya? :p
[11:00] <BUGabundo> so after i finish eating, i'll get back to work for a bit
[11:00] <cwillu> heh
[11:01] <BUGabundo> dont bother asking the rest of the guys. everyone is on MUTE
[11:02] <cwillu> brand new tool chain, nobody has published any misguided karmic howto's yet
[11:03] <cwillu> resulting in a remarkably quiet #+1 :p
[11:03] <BUGabundo> eheh
[11:03] <BUGabundo> i'm there, and so is kklimonda and ieorand
[11:03] <BUGabundo> oh and hggdh
[11:03] <BUGabundo> the rest i dont know!
[11:03]  * cwillu waves at hggdh 
[11:04] <BUGabundo> they are just _sitting_ here
[11:04] <BUGabundo> no idea why we have 183 users on # when only 5-10 are interessed on it (for now)
[11:04] <cwillu> don't know, or don't know if they're actually here?
[11:05] <BUGabundo> cwillu: at list their nicks are
[11:05] <BUGabundo> here comes bill
[11:05] <BUGabundo> and there he goes
[11:05] <cwillu> I auto join about 12 channels
[11:05] <BUGabundo> i do it for only 4 on freenode
[11:06] <BUGabundo> plus 2 on ptnet
[11:06] <BUGabundo> thats it!
[11:06] <BUGabundo> and two MUCs over XMPP
[11:07] <BUGabundo> plus 5 IM bots for social networks and micro blogs
[11:07] <BUGabundo> see why i'm cutting down on my online footprint?
[11:07] <BUGabundo> already unsubed 8 MLs and lots of bugmail
[11:10] <cwillu> you know, I bet I know why I'm getting 0xFF spewed out of this indicator
[11:10]  * cwillu unplugs the known bad card
[11:10] <cwillu> silly known bad card
[11:12] <BUGabundo> cwillu: ahh?
[11:16]  * cwillu goes "hmm"
[11:17] <BUGabundo> cwillu: what card?
[11:18] <cwillu> analog io card for a weigh scale indicator/controller
[11:18] <cwillu> it runs an advanced multitasking msdos compatible operating system
[11:18]  * cwillu cheers
[11:18] <BUGabundo> eheh
[11:18] <cwillu> btw, that's from their _current_ marketing literatur
[11:18] <cwillu> s/literatur/literature/
[13:17] <wd4lko> has anybody lost sound with the 30-3 kernel ?
[13:40] <hggdh> hi all y'all
[13:42] <tgpraveen> 	hi
[13:43] <tgpraveen> how do i use my bluetooth headset to chat with someone via empathy?
[13:43] <bazhang> tgpraveen, in jaunty?
[13:44] <tgpraveen> karmic / jaunty
[13:44] <tgpraveen> if i have latest pulseaudio i think
[13:44] <tgpraveen> it has better support for it
[13:45] <bazhang> tgpraveen, not sure what you mean; you have mixed packages from different versions?
[13:45] <tgpraveen> tell me for any version
[13:45] <bazhang> tgpraveen, jaunty support in #ubuntu
[13:45] <tgpraveen> no i have 2 pcs one with karmic one with jaunty
[13:45] <tgpraveen> so if u know with any then tell
[13:45] <tgpraveen> bazhang: i know that link
[13:45] <tgpraveen> but the probability to get it running is higher in
[13:46] <tgpraveen> karmic due to improvements in gnome and pa
[13:46] <bazhang> tgpraveen, no idea, not running karmic, as there really is no karmic at this point
[13:48] <Pici> I wouldn't count on anything working better in Karmic at this point in the release.
[13:52] <tgpraveen> :-(
[16:00] <funkyHat> I'm getting "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)" when I log in (running inside VBox)
[16:20] <jeki> Can anyone look at this report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-ubuntu/+bug/368580
[16:23] <Pici> jeki: You probably should mention this in #ubuntu-bugs instead of here.  #ubuntu+1 is for Karmic discussion
[19:01] <BUGabundo> need bug / depency check
[19:01] <BUGabundo> filezilla
[19:01] <BUGabundo> is it instalable??
[19:02] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: hggdh: cwillu: ienorand: ping
[19:02] <ienorand> BUGabundo: Hello :)
[19:02] <BUGabundo> ienorand: hi
[19:02] <hggdh> BUGabundo, pong
[19:02] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: what's up? :)
[19:03] <BUGabundo> guys back log 4 lines
[19:03] <BUGabundo> filezilla
[19:03] <BUGabundo> is it instalable??
[19:03] <BUGabundo> on karmic
[19:03] <ienorand> BUGabundo: so just install filezilla from repos? This ensues: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/uYhG2R
[19:04] <ienorand> E: Broken packages
[19:04] <BUGabundo> ok its brokken
[19:04] <BUGabundo> filing bug
[19:04] <BUGabundo> thanks ienorand
[19:05] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: wait
[19:05] <kklimonda> maybe it's still rebuilding?
[19:05] <BUGabundo> for 2 weeks ?
[19:05] <BUGabundo> I dought it
[19:05] <BUGabundo> nor its FTB
[19:05] <BUGabundo> so it's a depency bug
[19:05] <BUGabundo> uhhhh ubuntu-bug is dead too
[19:06] <hggdh> hold on, it depends on filezilla-common. This should be provided by filezilla itself
[19:06] <BUGabundo> retrying
[19:06] <kklimonda> that's weird.. it shouldn't happen
[19:06] <kklimonda> bothe filezilla and filezilla-common are built from the same source package
[19:06] <kklimonda> I can see that filezilla is still 3.2.2 while filezilla-common is already 3.4.2..
[19:06] <kklimonda> or something
[19:07] <BUGabundo> filling
[19:07] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys so i had a hard drive failure last night... going to set up a RAID 1 array
[19:07] <BUGabundo> you can add your comments there
[19:07] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filezilla/+bug/373832
[19:08] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: can you find build log for this release?
[19:08] <hggdh> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/filezilla/3.2.4.1-1
[19:08] <BUGabundo> let me see if is local
[19:08] <kklimonda> it would be good to know why new filezilla-common has hit the archives while filezilla haven't
[19:08] <BUGabundo> or lp as indicated by hggdh
[19:09] <kklimonda> hggdh: my bad - I'm blind :)
[19:09] <BUGabundo> it was an autosyn
[19:09] <kklimonda> right package was created..
[19:09] <thekorn> because it has not build on amd64 yet
[19:10] <thekorn> and you are on amd64
[19:10] <kklimonda> oh, right
[19:10] <kklimonda> thekorn: why then filezilla-common is published?
[19:10] <kklimonda> they are both built from the same source package..
[19:11] <hggdh> yeee the builders are back to work (and what a queue, what a queue!)
[19:12] <thekorn> kklimonda, because fz-common is Architecture independent and build fine on i386
[19:12] <kklimonda> ach
[19:13] <thekorn> so IMO there is no need to file a bug, just wait for the builds on the other Aarchitectures
[19:13] <kklimonda> yeah
[19:14] <hggdh> which might take the whole weekend, given the queue size
[19:14] <kklimonda> :}
[19:14] <kklimonda> they should relocate few PPA builders for a weekend to speed it up ;)
[19:15] <thekorn> *shrug* that's life
[19:16] <thekorn> oh BUGabundo, you already created a bugreport, let's invalidate this one ;)
[19:17] <kklimonda> yeah, it should be invalidated but the core problem still exists imo ;)
[19:17] <kklimonda> it's just not so important
[19:19] <ienorand> I am seeing prolonged boot times on several areas on .30 vs .28 kernel on kk, is this something that would warrant a bugreport?
[19:20] <BUGabundo> thekorn: thanks
[19:20] <BUGabundo> ienorand: did you profile your boot?
[19:22] <ienorand> BUGabundo: I've got two bootcharts, dunno if there's any better tools for it? :http://www.mibbit.com/up/VFkP0FG9.png http://www.mibbit.com/up/sIH5uEBj.png
[19:23] <BUGabundo> btw calc: have you got time to upload OOo 3.1 ?
[19:23] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: he's still fighting with it
[19:23] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: I bet! it's a 20% time proj since calc is in a new team
[19:25] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: it will take a time because of this kernel header breakage..
[19:25] <BUGabundo> ohhh
[19:25] <BUGabundo> I really need to get mail mail backlog into date
[19:25] <kklimonda> there are over 400 packages in builder queue
[19:25] <BUGabundo> I have to stop being online! I can't read email, when I'm online
[19:26] <BUGabundo> there's always someone pinging me
[19:26] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you should unsubscribe from 90% of mailing lists
[19:26] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: and 90% of rss feeds ;)
[19:26] <hggdh> is this an invitation? ;-)
[19:26] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: already did cut down on many
[19:26] <BUGabundo> see my identica life stream 24h ago
[19:27] <BUGabundo> but I kept devel and devel-discuss
[19:27] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: i refuse to use any microblogging service as they are just way too time consuming..
[19:27] <hggdh> +1
[19:28] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: so is irc
[19:28] <BUGabundo> or email
[19:29] <BUGabundo> or youtube.... etc
[19:29] <BUGabundo> its just a tool
[19:29] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: But I'm addicted to irc ;)
[19:29] <BUGabundo> it consumes as much as you allow it too
[19:29] <kklimonda> nah, microblogging is more distracting
[19:29] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: I'm addicted to Social Networking in any form
[19:29] <kklimonda> there are always people writing about something..
[19:29] <BUGabundo> online and offline
[19:29] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: you should be glad you don't follow MY life stream
[19:30] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: try identica for 24h
[19:30] <BUGabundo> the worse it can happen, is we stop seeing you here... lol... we will post to you there
[19:30] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[19:30] <kklimonda> :D
[19:30] <kklimonda> nah, I'll never leave irc..
[19:31] <kklimonda> have been using it for 8 years ;)
[19:31] <kklimonda> and I'll use it till I die probably..
[19:31] <BUGabundo> only?
[19:31] <BUGabundo> I've been on irc since 1994/5
[19:31] <kklimonda> hey, I'm younger than you :P
[19:31] <BUGabundo> but stopped for a few years
[19:31] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: are you ?
[19:32] <kklimonda> sure - you are 28 ;)
[19:32] <BUGabundo> I keep forgeting ppls age
[19:32] <BUGabundo> I have worse mem then fish
[19:32] <kklimonda> :}
[19:32] <kklimonda> I've been using irc since i was 15
[19:32] <SwedeMike> BUGabundo: I've been on irc continously since november 93 :P
[19:32]  * BUGabundo let me send kklimonda an invite to identica
[19:33] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: please, don't - I think I already have an account there ;D
[19:33] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: I was about that age too
[19:33] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:33] <BUGabundo> let me ping that account then
[19:33] <ienorand> heh, I den't get onto irc 'till like a year ago... and only in connection with ubuntu really...
[19:33] <BUGabundo> http://identi.ca/kklimonda
[19:33] <BUGabundo> you are there
[19:33] <BUGabundo> I'm sub to you
[19:34] <kklimonda> I don't really use it ;)
[19:34] <BUGabundo> pinged
[19:34] <BUGabundo> SwedeMike: old school eheh
[19:34] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: it's a great source of news, knowlage and meeting ppl
[19:34] <BUGabundo> that's why I use it
[19:34] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: the problem is I should meet more people in real world ;)
[19:34] <kklimonda> ahaha
[19:35] <kklimonda> i can't recover my password
[19:35] <kklimonda> Fatal error: Call to a member function quoteSmart() on a non-object in /var/www/identi.ca/extlib/DB/DataObject.php on line 2104
[19:35] <kklimonda> epic fail..
[19:35] <hggdh> epic??
[19:35] <SwedeMike> BUGabundo: you betcha. screen+ircII, dialing with a modem into a 7bit terminal server, using ISO646 for swedish characters :P
[19:35] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: file a bug on trac
[19:35] <BUGabundo> http://laconi.ca/trac
[19:35] <kklimonda> hggdh: huge, enormous ;)
[19:35] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: didn't you use OpenID instead?
[19:35] <SwedeMike> dialing into the terminal server and telnetting to a solaris box
[19:35] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: I don't know.. maybe..
[19:35] <BUGabundo> SwedeMike: ehehe...
[19:36] <BUGabundo> SwedeMike: how is *living* online ?
[19:36] <BUGabundo> for 26 y!
[19:36] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: we'll see
[19:36] <hggdh> kklimonda, there was, for a while, a string of epic bugs in LP (or, rather, bugs that had "epic" in the subject...
[19:36] <SwedeMike> BUGabundo: huh?
[19:36] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: yeah, looks like it - it is even my old openid from myopenid.com..
[19:37] <kklimonda> damn, LP is time outing all the time..
[19:37] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: I have my openid on 2 servers, and delegated on two others
[19:37] <BUGabundo> I can't have it failing on me
[19:38] <BUGabundo> MyOpenID is the primary delegation
[19:38] <BUGabundo> love the SSL cert option
[19:38] <BUGabundo> no more pass
[19:38] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: hggdh: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/360846
[19:39] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: where do you have your cert from? cacert?
[19:39] <hggdh> yes. I been feeling this issue for some days now. And, BTW, *this* is one that could be called epic ;-)
[19:39] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: from myopenid it self
[19:40] <BUGabundo> its generated
[19:40] <kklimonda> I've switched to LP openid..
[19:40] <BUGabundo> with all this timeouts....
[19:40] <BUGabundo> eheh
[19:40] <kklimonda> for some reason I just love giving more control over my elife to google and canonical ;)
[19:40] <BUGabundo> I just delegate
[19:40] <BUGabundo> that way I can just change servers when I want/need
[19:41] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: yeah... google is too big now
[19:41] <kklimonda> nah, I hope I'll be staying with LP for years.. also I don't really believe in openid
[19:41] <kklimonda> it's nice but it doesn't work as I'd like it to..
[19:42] <BUGabundo> ienorand: ping
[19:42] <BUGabundo> ienorand: found your slowdown
[19:42] <BUGabundo> NTFS checking disk
[19:42] <ienorand> BUGabundo: ah?
[19:42] <BUGabundo> I bet it has errors on it
[19:42] <BUGabundo> force a check
[19:42] <ienorand> :(
[19:43] <ienorand> i.e. checkdisk from the "other side"?
[19:43] <BUGabundo> ienorand: also disable BT if you don't use it
[19:43] <BUGabundo> its using lots of IO
[19:43] <BUGabundo> ienorand: any form... on linux or wind
[19:47] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: [[]] I'll be waiting ... eheh
[19:48] <ienorand> Wonder why the kernel would affect bt to that effect...
[19:49] <kklimonda> oh, great LP - even requestsync is timeouting..
[19:53] <kklimonda> oh, I got accepted to LP beta testers - no wonder that it's so unstable ;)
[19:53] <BUGabundo> humm Thekron left?
[19:53] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: do you see what up with gnome-do-plugins?
[19:53] <BUGabundo> is its builders slow to build too?
[19:54] <BUGabundo> let me check the queue
[19:54] <BUGabundo> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=gnome-do-plugins&build_state=all
[19:54] <ienorand> Right, I'm off to see if I can fix the disk there, see ya'll
[19:54] <BUGabundo> I just see i386
[19:55] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: hmm - it was built for jaunty and it wasn't rebuilt for karmic.
[19:55] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: what is the problem?
[19:55] <BUGabundo> gnome-do update depends on it
[19:55] <BUGabundo> and installing it, removes -plugins
[19:56] <BUGabundo> I don't want to loose my DO plugins....
[19:56] <BUGabundo> unless they are now CORE
[19:56] <kklimonda> it shouldn't
[19:57] <kklimonda> oh, i se
[19:57] <BUGabundo> humm I won't install it until im sure
[19:57] <BUGabundo> dinner
[19:57] <BUGabundo> be back latter.... pizzzzzaaaaaa waits
[19:57] <kklimonda> there is a problem with libgnome2.24-cil dependency
[20:37] <BUGabundo> what? I went and came and you guys are mute?
[20:37] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: I was wondering - why "BUGabundo"?  ;)
[20:38] <pace_t_zulu> kklimonda: i have wondered the same
[20:39] <BUGabundo> eheh
[20:39] <BUGabundo> seems you guys either missed me
[20:39] <BUGabundo> or didn't want me to loose anything
[20:39] <BUGabundo> eheh
[20:39] <BUGabundo> so THANKs lol
[20:39] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: 1st beer in portugal its on me!
[20:40] <BUGabundo> or any other non alchool drink (since I don't)
[20:40] <kklimonda> neither do i ;)
[20:46] <BUGabundo> so sumol
[20:48] <kklimonda> so, what does your nick mean? :)
[20:48] <BUGabundo> again?
[20:48] <BUGabundo> what's this?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> "week to find about BUGabundo nick origin"?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: pvt
[20:50] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: understand now?
[20:50] <kklimonda> yeah..
[20:52] <hggdh> can I suggest ;-)?
[20:52] <hggdh> oh, pvt... OK. I will not suggest
[20:54] <BUGabundo> hggdh: shoot
[20:55] <BUGabundo> its just so I didn't cloug even more the #
[20:55] <hggdh> an acronym of BUG and "vagabundo" (English ~ vagabond)
[21:05] <BUGabundo> hggdh: that's what I told him, more or less
[21:08] <hggdh> BUGabundo, for us it is easy: we share the same language ;-)
[21:11] <BUGabundo> yeah
[21:11] <BUGabundo> even though many don't get it
[21:12] <BUGabundo> hggdh: but didn't I already told you about it too?
[21:12] <BUGabundo> I keep having to explain it , so I forget who know
[21:12] <hggdh> BUGabundo, no, you had not
[21:12] <BUGabundo> *knows
[21:12] <BUGabundo> ok
[21:12] <hggdh> it is like my nick -- most people get confused trying to spell the letters, instead of saying the word...
[21:13] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:13] <BUGabundo> word?
[21:13] <BUGabundo> what word?
[21:13] <BUGabundo> I just speel it
[21:13] <hggdh> :-D
[21:13] <hggdh> the word is 'haggadah
[21:13] <hggdh>  '
[21:14] <BUGabundo> is it ?
[21:14] <BUGabundo> LOL
[21:14] <BUGabundo> ok what does that mean?
[21:14] <hggdh> means 'story',
[21:15] <BUGabundo> in which chinese dialect ? eheh
[21:16] <hggdh> heh. No, Hebrew
[21:16] <BUGabundo> how many lang do you speek?
[21:16] <BUGabundo> *speak
[21:17] <hggdh> oh, no, I do not speak Hebrew, I only know some few words. I always keep thinking of going and actually learning it, but never done so... (it would allow me to chat with relatives in Israel, at least)
[21:30] <kklimonda> I'd like to learn Japanese :)
[21:30] <ikonia> then take it to a japanese channel, this one is for 9.10 discussion
[21:31] <kklimonda> sure :)
[21:31] <ikonia> super
[21:48] <BUGabundo> ikonia: would it be possible to create an #ubuntu-offtopic+1 ?
[21:48] <BUGabundo> or #ubuntu+1-offtopic ?
[21:49] <BUGabundo> that way, us, the guys that chichat here, could do it there, not going OT here
[21:49] <hifi> yet another offtopic channel
[21:50] <BUGabundo> hifi: do you mind?
[21:50] <hifi> c'mon, when people arent talking any business who does it hurt to chat about other things
[21:50] <BUGabundo> we keep going OT here... and some ppl don't like it
[21:50] <BUGabundo> hifi: I usually don't mind
[21:50] <BUGabundo> but I'm not OP to decide that
[21:51] <hifi> I'm just full of -offtopic channels, but thats my problem :p
[21:51] <BUGabundo> I agree with you : as long as there is nobody else here using the channel for it main use, we can just interact
[21:53] <ikonia> BUGabundo: just use #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <ikonia> gents - there are offtopic channels for you to chat in, even if there is no-one around, it would be really helpful to follow the topic in here
[21:56] <BUGabundo> ikonia: don't take me wrong, since I tend to go to easilly OT, but its just nice to talk to other ppl we know... on a non-crowed #
[21:57] <ikonia> BUGabundo: that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for, I know what you are saying, but the policy is to follow the topic
[21:57] <BUGabundo> ok
[21:57] <BUGabundo> thanks for listening
[21:57] <BUGabundo> btw, where are those policies posted? I would like to read them
[21:58] <ikonia> !irc
[21:58] <ikonia> !guidelines
[21:58] <BUGabundo> ikonia: thanks
[22:06] <DanaG> What's the current state of the radeon driver in Karmic?
[22:06] <DanaG> !info xserver-xorg-video-ati
[22:06] <DanaG> hmm, the tormodvolden ppa doesn
[22:06] <DanaG> doesn't say if it has that basic 3D support for R600.
[22:10] <hifi> !owns /bin/sh
[22:10] <hifi> my hopes were up for a moment
[22:11] <BUGabundo> ehehehe
[22:13] <hggdh> hifi, bash and dash own it
[22:13] <hggdh> (dpkg -S /bin/sh)
[22:13] <hifi> hggdh: was more of a test to find out if ubottu know a own command, sometimes I want to know which package ows a particular file even when I don't have the package installed
[22:14] <hifi> s/know/knows/
[22:14] <kklimonda> hifi: there is an apt-file package
[22:14] <hggdh> hifi, you can also use apt-file
[22:15] <hggdh> (but since dash is always installed...)
[22:16] <hifi> installed apt-file, thanks for the info :)
[22:17] <hggdh> hifi, every so often you will have to update the base. You can do it under your own userid (which will create the tables under your account, or you can run it under sudo (which will create/update the tables /var/cache/apt/apt-file)
[22:18] <hifi> just updated, post install script kindly recommended it
[22:22] <DanaG> hmm, I think I'll wait on Karmic, until we at least have either (A) a fglrx for 2.6.30 or (B) KMS on R600.
[22:22] <DanaG> Granted, those are two entirely unrelated things... but I'd be willing to compromise.  =þ
[22:23] <kklimonda> DanaG: you can always install it in vm
[22:23] <DanaG> Or on an alternate hard drive.
[22:24] <DanaG> =þ
[22:40] <DanaG> Why does Karmic kernel not have radeon KMS?
[22:42] <crdlb> because it's two weeks into the development cycle?
[22:43] <DanaG> ah.  =þ
 kklimonda: hggdh: cwillu: ienorand: pong
[23:51] <BUGabundo> cwillu: pong
[23:51] <BUGabundo> cwillu: done and fixed
[23:51] <BUGabundo> filezilla... not building
[23:53] <hggdh> heh
[23:53] <hggdh> patience...
[23:54] <cwillu> yay :p