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BUGabundo1night01:18
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BUGabundo!ping09:18
ubottuping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore09:18
BUGabundoahh this is alive09:18
BUGabundohello cwillu . we missed u here10:46
BUGabundocwillu: what happend to u ? X pain?10:46
* BUGabundo pokes cwillu is an heavy stick, so he wakes up....10:48
* BUGabundo offers a cup of coffee next10:49
cwilluBUGabundo, sorry, was afk a minute :p10:53
cwilluoddly enough, to get coffee :p10:53
* cwillu pokes his coffee with a stir stick10:54
BUGabundoeheh10:55
BUGabundoglad to have u back10:55
* cwillu pretends not to be creepified :p10:55
BUGabundowhat took u so long?10:55
cwilluwhich, just now?10:56
cwilluconnection issues10:56
cwillulonger term, was a miscommunication with a new job, who thought that I was willing to do road trips on a regular basis10:56
BUGabundoahhh10:57
BUGabundoso are u doing them, or quit?10:57
cwillunothing terribly interesting unfortunately10:57
cwilluwell, we had been using the same words with different meanings, so the whole thing is being reevaluated10:57
BUGabundohehe10:57
BUGabundobrb. geting someting to eat10:58
cwilluI still have some of their equipment sitting here, so I'm expecting to still be doing work for them10:58
cwillusure10:58
BUGabundoback10:59
cwilluso, what's new?10:59
BUGabundonot much10:59
BUGabundoi have orders to *reduce* my Online usage11:00
cwilluheh11:00
BUGabundoits hard.... and i miss u guys11:00
cwilluhow's that going for ya? :p11:00
BUGabundoso after i finish eating, i'll get back to work for a bit11:00
cwilluheh11:00
BUGabundodont bother asking the rest of the guys. everyone is on MUTE11:01
cwillubrand new tool chain, nobody has published any misguided karmic howto's yet11:02
cwilluresulting in a remarkably quiet #+1 :p11:03
BUGabundoeheh11:03
BUGabundoi'm there, and so is kklimonda and ieorand11:03
BUGabundooh and hggdh11:03
BUGabundothe rest i dont know!11:03
* cwillu waves at hggdh 11:03
BUGabundothey are just _sitting_ here11:04
BUGabundono idea why we have 183 users on # when only 5-10 are interessed on it (for now)11:04
cwilludon't know, or don't know if they're actually here?11:04
BUGabundocwillu: at list their nicks are11:05
BUGabundohere comes bill11:05
BUGabundoand there he goes11:05
cwilluI auto join about 12 channels11:05
BUGabundoi do it for only 4 on freenode11:05
BUGabundoplus 2 on ptnet11:06
BUGabundothats it!11:06
BUGabundoand two MUCs over XMPP11:06
BUGabundoplus 5 IM bots for social networks and micro blogs11:07
BUGabundosee why i'm cutting down on my online footprint?11:07
BUGabundoalready unsubed 8 MLs and lots of bugmail11:07
cwilluyou know, I bet I know why I'm getting 0xFF spewed out of this indicator11:10
* cwillu unplugs the known bad card11:10
cwillusilly known bad card11:10
BUGabundocwillu: ahh?11:12
* cwillu goes "hmm"11:16
BUGabundocwillu: what card?11:17
cwilluanalog io card for a weigh scale indicator/controller11:18
cwilluit runs an advanced multitasking msdos compatible operating system11:18
* cwillu cheers11:18
BUGabundoeheh11:18
cwillubtw, that's from their _current_ marketing literatur11:18
cwillus/literatur/literature/11:18
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wd4lkohas anybody lost sound with the 30-3 kernel ?13:17
hggdhhi all y'all13:40
tgpraveenhi13:42
tgpraveenhow do i use my bluetooth headset to chat with someone via empathy?13:43
bazhangtgpraveen, in jaunty?13:43
tgpraveenkarmic / jaunty13:44
tgpraveenif i have latest pulseaudio i think13:44
tgpraveenit has better support for it13:44
bazhangtgpraveen, not sure what you mean; you have mixed packages from different versions?13:45
tgpraveentell me for any version13:45
bazhangtgpraveen, jaunty support in #ubuntu13:45
tgpraveenno i have 2 pcs one with karmic one with jaunty13:45
tgpraveenso if u know with any then tell13:45
tgpraveenbazhang: i know that link13:45
tgpraveenbut the probability to get it running is higher in13:45
tgpraveenkarmic due to improvements in gnome and pa13:46
bazhangtgpraveen, no idea, not running karmic, as there really is no karmic at this point13:46
PiciI wouldn't count on anything working better in Karmic at this point in the release.13:48
tgpraveen:-(13:52
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funkyHatI'm getting "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)" when I log in (running inside VBox)16:00
jekiCan anyone look at this report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/app-install-data-ubuntu/+bug/36858016:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 368580 in app-install-data-ubuntu "aMule should be offered instead of aMule AdunanzA" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:20
Picijeki: You probably should mention this in #ubuntu-bugs instead of here.  #ubuntu+1 is for Karmic discussion16:23
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BUGabundoneed bug / depency check19:01
BUGabundofilezilla19:01
BUGabundois it instalable??19:01
BUGabundokklimonda: hggdh: cwillu: ienorand: ping19:02
ienorandBUGabundo: Hello :)19:02
BUGabundoienorand: hi19:02
hggdhBUGabundo, pong19:02
kklimondaBUGabundo: what's up? :)19:02
BUGabundoguys back log 4 lines19:03
BUGabundofilezilla19:03
BUGabundois it instalable??19:03
BUGabundoon karmic19:03
ienorandBUGabundo: so just install filezilla from repos? This ensues: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/uYhG2R19:03
ienorandE: Broken packages19:04
BUGabundook its brokken19:04
BUGabundofiling bug19:04
BUGabundothanks ienorand19:04
kklimondaBUGabundo: wait19:05
kklimondamaybe it's still rebuilding?19:05
BUGabundofor 2 weeks ?19:05
BUGabundoI dought it19:05
BUGabundonor its FTB19:05
BUGabundoso it's a depency bug19:05
BUGabundouhhhh ubuntu-bug is dead too19:05
hggdhhold on, it depends on filezilla-common. This should be provided by filezilla itself19:06
BUGabundoretrying19:06
kklimondathat's weird.. it shouldn't happen19:06
kklimondabothe filezilla and filezilla-common are built from the same source package19:06
kklimondaI can see that filezilla is still 3.2.2 while filezilla-common is already 3.4.2..19:06
kklimondaor something19:06
BUGabundofilling19:07
pace_t_zuluhey guys so i had a hard drive failure last night... going to set up a RAID 1 array19:07
BUGabundoyou can add your comments there19:07
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filezilla/+bug/37383219:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 373832 in filezilla "filezilla is not installable" [Undecided,New]19:07
kklimondaBUGabundo: can you find build log for this release?19:08
hggdhhttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/filezilla/3.2.4.1-119:08
BUGabundolet me see if is local19:08
kklimondait would be good to know why new filezilla-common has hit the archives while filezilla haven't19:08
BUGabundoor lp as indicated by hggdh19:08
kklimondahggdh: my bad - I'm blind :)19:09
BUGabundoit was an autosyn19:09
kklimondaright package was created..19:09
thekornbecause it has not build on amd64 yet19:09
thekornand you are on amd6419:10
kklimondaoh, right19:10
kklimondathekorn: why then filezilla-common is published?19:10
kklimondathey are both built from the same source package..19:10
hggdhyeee the builders are back to work (and what a queue, what a queue!)19:11
thekornkklimonda, because fz-common is Architecture independent and build fine on i38619:12
kklimondaach19:12
thekornso IMO there is no need to file a bug, just wait for the builds on the other Aarchitectures19:13
kklimondayeah19:13
hggdhwhich might take the whole weekend, given the queue size19:14
kklimonda:}19:14
kklimondathey should relocate few PPA builders for a weekend to speed it up ;)19:14
thekorn*shrug* that's life19:15
thekornoh BUGabundo, you already created a bugreport, let's invalidate this one ;)19:16
kklimondayeah, it should be invalidated but the core problem still exists imo ;)19:17
kklimondait's just not so important19:17
ienorandI am seeing prolonged boot times on several areas on .30 vs .28 kernel on kk, is this something that would warrant a bugreport?19:19
BUGabundothekorn: thanks19:20
BUGabundoienorand: did you profile your boot?19:20
ienorandBUGabundo: I've got two bootcharts, dunno if there's any better tools for it? :http://www.mibbit.com/up/VFkP0FG9.png http://www.mibbit.com/up/sIH5uEBj.png19:22
BUGabundobtw calc: have you got time to upload OOo 3.1 ?19:23
kklimondaBUGabundo: he's still fighting with it19:23
BUGabundokklimonda: I bet! it's a 20% time proj since calc is in a new team19:23
kklimondaBUGabundo: it will take a time because of this kernel header breakage..19:25
BUGabundoohhh19:25
BUGabundoI really need to get mail mail backlog into date19:25
kklimondathere are over 400 packages in builder queue19:25
BUGabundoI have to stop being online! I can't read email, when I'm online19:25
BUGabundothere's always someone pinging me19:26
kklimondaBUGabundo: you should unsubscribe from 90% of mailing lists19:26
kklimondaBUGabundo: and 90% of rss feeds ;)19:26
hggdhis this an invitation? ;-)19:26
BUGabundokklimonda: already did cut down on many19:26
BUGabundosee my identica life stream 24h ago19:26
BUGabundobut I kept devel and devel-discuss19:27
kklimondaBUGabundo: i refuse to use any microblogging service as they are just way too time consuming..19:27
hggdh+119:27
BUGabundokklimonda: so is irc19:28
BUGabundoor email19:28
BUGabundoor youtube.... etc19:29
BUGabundoits just a tool19:29
kklimondaBUGabundo: But I'm addicted to irc ;)19:29
BUGabundoit consumes as much as you allow it too19:29
kklimondanah, microblogging is more distracting19:29
BUGabundokklimonda: I'm addicted to Social Networking in any form19:29
kklimondathere are always people writing about something..19:29
BUGabundoonline and offline19:29
BUGabundokklimonda: you should be glad you don't follow MY life stream19:29
BUGabundokklimonda: try identica for 24h19:30
BUGabundothe worse it can happen, is we stop seeing you here... lol... we will post to you there19:30
BUGabundoehehe19:30
kklimonda:D19:30
kklimondanah, I'll never leave irc..19:30
kklimondahave been using it for 8 years ;)19:31
kklimondaand I'll use it till I die probably..19:31
BUGabundoonly?19:31
BUGabundoI've been on irc since 1994/519:31
kklimondahey, I'm younger than you :P19:31
BUGabundobut stopped for a few years19:31
BUGabundokklimonda: are you ?19:31
kklimondasure - you are 28 ;)19:32
BUGabundoI keep forgeting ppls age19:32
BUGabundoI have worse mem then fish19:32
kklimonda:}19:32
kklimondaI've been using irc since i was 1519:32
SwedeMikeBUGabundo: I've been on irc continously since november 93 :P19:32
* BUGabundo let me send kklimonda an invite to identica19:32
kklimondaBUGabundo: please, don't - I think I already have an account there ;D19:33
BUGabundokklimonda: I was about that age too19:33
BUGabundoeheh19:33
BUGabundolet me ping that account then19:33
ienorandheh, I den't get onto irc 'till like a year ago... and only in connection with ubuntu really...19:33
BUGabundohttp://identi.ca/kklimonda19:33
BUGabundoyou are there19:33
BUGabundoI'm sub to you19:33
kklimondaI don't really use it ;)19:34
BUGabundopinged19:34
BUGabundoSwedeMike: old school eheh19:34
BUGabundokklimonda: it's a great source of news, knowlage and meeting ppl19:34
BUGabundothat's why I use it19:34
kklimondaBUGabundo: the problem is I should meet more people in real world ;)19:34
kklimondaahaha19:34
kklimondai can't recover my password19:35
kklimondaFatal error: Call to a member function quoteSmart() on a non-object in /var/www/identi.ca/extlib/DB/DataObject.php on line 210419:35
kklimondaepic fail..19:35
hggdhepic??19:35
SwedeMikeBUGabundo: you betcha. screen+ircII, dialing with a modem into a 7bit terminal server, using ISO646 for swedish characters :P19:35
BUGabundokklimonda: file a bug on trac19:35
BUGabundohttp://laconi.ca/trac19:35
kklimondahggdh: huge, enormous ;)19:35
BUGabundokklimonda: didn't you use OpenID instead?19:35
SwedeMikedialing into the terminal server and telnetting to a solaris box19:35
kklimondaBUGabundo: I don't know.. maybe..19:35
BUGabundoSwedeMike: ehehe...19:35
BUGabundoSwedeMike: how is *living* online ?19:36
BUGabundofor 26 y!19:36
kklimondaBUGabundo: we'll see19:36
hggdhkklimonda, there was, for a while, a string of epic bugs in LP (or, rather, bugs that had "epic" in the subject...19:36
SwedeMikeBUGabundo: huh?19:36
kklimondaBUGabundo: yeah, looks like it - it is even my old openid from myopenid.com..19:36
kklimondadamn, LP is time outing all the time..19:37
BUGabundokklimonda: I have my openid on 2 servers, and delegated on two others19:37
BUGabundoI can't have it failing on me19:37
BUGabundoMyOpenID is the primary delegation19:38
BUGabundolove the SSL cert option19:38
BUGabundono more pass19:38
BUGabundokklimonda: hggdh: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/36084619:38
ubottuUbuntu bug 360846 in launchpad-foundations "appserver isn't recovering like it should causing too many oopses" [Critical,In progress]19:38
kklimondaBUGabundo: where do you have your cert from? cacert?19:39
hggdhyes. I been feeling this issue for some days now. And, BTW, *this* is one that could be called epic ;-)19:39
BUGabundokklimonda: from myopenid it self19:39
BUGabundoits generated19:40
kklimondaI've switched to LP openid..19:40
BUGabundowith all this timeouts....19:40
BUGabundoeheh19:40
kklimondafor some reason I just love giving more control over my elife to google and canonical ;)19:40
BUGabundoI just delegate19:40
BUGabundothat way I can just change servers when I want/need19:40
BUGabundokklimonda: yeah... google is too big now19:41
kklimondanah, I hope I'll be staying with LP for years.. also I don't really believe in openid19:41
kklimondait's nice but it doesn't work as I'd like it to..19:41
BUGabundoienorand: ping19:42
BUGabundoienorand: found your slowdown19:42
BUGabundoNTFS checking disk19:42
ienorandBUGabundo: ah?19:42
BUGabundoI bet it has errors on it19:42
BUGabundoforce a check19:42
ienorand:(19:42
ienorandi.e. checkdisk from the "other side"?19:43
BUGabundoienorand: also disable BT if you don't use it19:43
BUGabundoits using lots of IO19:43
BUGabundoienorand: any form... on linux or wind19:43
BUGabundokklimonda: [[]] I'll be waiting ... eheh19:47
ienorandWonder why the kernel would affect bt to that effect...19:48
kklimondaoh, great LP - even requestsync is timeouting..19:49
kklimondaoh, I got accepted to LP beta testers - no wonder that it's so unstable ;)19:53
BUGabundohumm Thekron left?19:53
BUGabundokklimonda: do you see what up with gnome-do-plugins?19:53
BUGabundois its builders slow to build too?19:53
BUGabundolet me check the queue19:54
BUGabundohttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=gnome-do-plugins&build_state=all19:54
ienorandRight, I'm off to see if I can fix the disk there, see ya'll19:54
BUGabundoI just see i38619:54
kklimondaBUGabundo: hmm - it was built for jaunty and it wasn't rebuilt for karmic.19:55
kklimondaBUGabundo: what is the problem?19:55
BUGabundognome-do update depends on it19:55
BUGabundoand installing it, removes -plugins19:55
BUGabundoI don't want to loose my DO plugins....19:56
BUGabundounless they are now CORE19:56
kklimondait shouldn't19:56
kklimondaoh, i se19:57
BUGabundohumm I won't install it until im sure19:57
BUGabundodinner19:57
BUGabundobe back latter.... pizzzzzaaaaaa waits19:57
kklimondathere is a problem with libgnome2.24-cil dependency19:57
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BUGabundowhat? I went and came and you guys are mute?20:37
kklimondaBUGabundo: I was wondering - why "BUGabundo"?  ;)20:37
pace_t_zulukklimonda: i have wondered the same20:38
BUGabundoeheh20:39
BUGabundoseems you guys either missed me20:39
BUGabundoor didn't want me to loose anything20:39
BUGabundoeheh20:39
BUGabundoso THANKs lol20:39
BUGabundokklimonda: 1st beer in portugal its on me!20:39
BUGabundoor any other non alchool drink (since I don't)20:40
kklimondaneither do i ;)20:40
BUGabundoso sumol20:46
kklimondaso, what does your nick mean? :)20:48
BUGabundoagain?20:48
BUGabundowhat's this?20:48
BUGabundo"week to find about BUGabundo nick origin"?20:49
BUGabundokklimonda: pvt20:49
BUGabundokklimonda: understand now?20:50
kklimondayeah..20:50
hggdhcan I suggest ;-)?20:52
hggdhoh, pvt... OK. I will not suggest20:52
BUGabundohggdh: shoot20:54
BUGabundoits just so I didn't cloug even more the #20:55
hggdhan acronym of BUG and "vagabundo" (English ~ vagabond)20:55
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BUGabundohggdh: that's what I told him, more or less21:05
hggdhBUGabundo, for us it is easy: we share the same language ;-)21:08
BUGabundoyeah21:11
BUGabundoeven though many don't get it21:11
BUGabundohggdh: but didn't I already told you about it too?21:12
BUGabundoI keep having to explain it , so I forget who know21:12
hggdhBUGabundo, no, you had not21:12
BUGabundo*knows21:12
BUGabundook21:12
hggdhit is like my nick -- most people get confused trying to spell the letters, instead of saying the word...21:12
BUGabundoeheh21:13
BUGabundoword?21:13
BUGabundowhat word?21:13
BUGabundoI just speel it21:13
hggdh:-D21:13
hggdhthe word is 'haggadah21:13
hggdh '21:13
BUGabundois it ?21:14
BUGabundoLOL21:14
BUGabundook what does that mean?21:14
hggdhmeans 'story',21:14
BUGabundoin which chinese dialect ? eheh21:15
hggdhheh. No, Hebrew21:16
BUGabundohow many lang do you speek?21:16
BUGabundo*speak21:16
hggdhoh, no, I do not speak Hebrew, I only know some few words. I always keep thinking of going and actually learning it, but never done so... (it would allow me to chat with relatives in Israel, at least)21:17
kklimondaI'd like to learn Japanese :)21:30
ikoniathen take it to a japanese channel, this one is for 9.10 discussion21:30
kklimondasure :)21:31
ikoniasuper21:31
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BUGabundoikonia: would it be possible to create an #ubuntu-offtopic+1 ?21:48
BUGabundoor #ubuntu+1-offtopic ?21:48
BUGabundothat way, us, the guys that chichat here, could do it there, not going OT here21:49
hifiyet another offtopic channel21:49
BUGabundohifi: do you mind?21:50
hific'mon, when people arent talking any business who does it hurt to chat about other things21:50
BUGabundowe keep going OT here... and some ppl don't like it21:50
BUGabundohifi: I usually don't mind21:50
BUGabundobut I'm not OP to decide that21:50
hifiI'm just full of -offtopic channels, but thats my problem :p21:51
BUGabundoI agree with you : as long as there is nobody else here using the channel for it main use, we can just interact21:51
ikoniaBUGabundo: just use #ubuntu-offtopic21:53
ikoniagents - there are offtopic channels for you to chat in, even if there is no-one around, it would be really helpful to follow the topic in here21:54
BUGabundoikonia: don't take me wrong, since I tend to go to easilly OT, but its just nice to talk to other ppl we know... on a non-crowed #21:56
ikoniaBUGabundo: that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for, I know what you are saying, but the policy is to follow the topic21:57
BUGabundook21:57
BUGabundothanks for listening21:57
BUGabundobtw, where are those policies posted? I would like to read them21:57
ikonia!irc21:58
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines21:58
ikonia!guidelines21:58
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines21:58
BUGabundoikonia: thanks21:58
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DanaGWhat's the current state of the radeon driver in Karmic?22:06
DanaG!info xserver-xorg-video-ati22:06
ubottuxserver-xorg-video-ati (source: xserver-xorg-video-ati): X.Org X server -- ATI display driver wrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.12.2-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 186 kB, installed size 268 kB22:06
DanaGhmm, the tormodvolden ppa doesn22:06
DanaGdoesn't say if it has that basic 3D support for R600.22:06
hifi!owns /bin/sh22:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about owns /bin/sh22:10
hifimy hopes were up for a moment22:10
BUGabundoehehehe22:11
hggdhhifi, bash and dash own it22:13
hggdh(dpkg -S /bin/sh)22:13
hifihggdh: was more of a test to find out if ubottu know a own command, sometimes I want to know which package ows a particular file even when I don't have the package installed22:13
hifis/know/knows/22:14
kklimondahifi: there is an apt-file package22:14
hggdhhifi, you can also use apt-file22:14
hggdh(but since dash is always installed...)22:15
hifiinstalled apt-file, thanks for the info :)22:16
hggdhhifi, every so often you will have to update the base. You can do it under your own userid (which will create the tables under your account, or you can run it under sudo (which will create/update the tables /var/cache/apt/apt-file)22:17
hifijust updated, post install script kindly recommended it22:18
DanaGhmm, I think I'll wait on Karmic, until we at least have either (A) a fglrx for 2.6.30 or (B) KMS on R600.22:22
DanaGGranted, those are two entirely unrelated things... but I'd be willing to compromise.  =þ22:22
kklimondaDanaG: you can always install it in vm22:23
DanaGOr on an alternate hard drive.22:23
DanaG22:24
DanaGWhy does Karmic kernel not have radeon KMS?22:40
crdlbbecause it's two weeks into the development cycle?22:42
DanaGah.  =þ22:43
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cwillu<BUGabundo> kklimonda: hggdh: cwillu: ienorand: pong23:51
BUGabundocwillu: pong23:51
BUGabundocwillu: done and fixed23:51
BUGabundofilezilla... not building23:51
hggdhheh23:53
hggdhpatience...23:53
cwilluyay :p23:54

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