[00:58] <SiDi> Client debugged \o/
[12:57] <savvas> i need your experties :)
[12:57] <savvas> what icon would you make for https://launchpad.net/surl - an application that shortens urls?
[13:14] <kwwii> thorwil: what do you think of the idea of creating an overlay of just the panels and some desktop icons with text, at say 1024x768 which can be used to show how wallpaper submissions would look in practice?
[13:15] <thorwil> kwwii, i once though of the same ... and forgot about it :)  good, just not sure about the size
[13:16] <thorwil> kwwii, one could even go so far to script it, including generating it for all common aspect ratios
[13:20] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, I was thinking of a script to do it, as well as create the thumbnail, etc
[13:20] <kwwii> an all-in-one script
[13:20] <kwwii> I think that too many aspect ratios would be overkill though
[13:21] <kwwii> perhaps just show a 4:3 and one widescreen
[13:22] <thorwil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Backgrounds
[13:22] <kwwii> btw I am working on the karmic wallpaper brief, as well as a competition for a package of extra wallpapers
[13:22] <thorwil> 4:3 doesn't seem to be that common anymore
[13:22] <thorwil> cool
[13:22] <kwwii> true
[13:22] <kwwii> the point is mainly to show how the wallpaper will work with panels and icons
[13:22] <kwwii> ie in action
[13:23] <kwwii> it is easy to make a really nice pic which is unsuitable for the desktop
[13:23]  * SiDi nods.
[13:24] <thorwil> kwwii, i still have to add a XCF background template, same approach as with the SVG one
[13:24] <thorwil> saying this as a call/competition could mention it
[13:28] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, I'm going to be sending several emails once I get all the info together
[13:28] <kwwii> I have some other ideas as well :)
[13:50] <kwwii> hehe, nice moon icon...could have just used this as well: https://launchpad.net/~inkscape-nightly
[13:50] <kwwii> (without the inkscape logo naturally)
[13:50]  * kwwii takes a break
[14:07] <dashua> SiDi: Sup mate?
[14:07] <SiDi> heya :)
[14:07] <SiDi> fine, you ?
[14:09] <dashua> Good, sorry I was busy with some things.  Buying a new house, so I have a lot going on.
[14:09] <SiDi> heh :)
[14:09] <dashua> I had a ping the other day
[14:09] <dashua> Didn't get back to you.
[14:10] <SiDi> yeh
[14:10] <SiDi> i mailed you a change i made about alvaro's panel
[14:10] <SiDi> don't know if you got it :p
[14:10] <dashua> Oh, I added those changes you sent me on irc
[14:10] <dashua> Looks good :)
[14:11] <SiDi> i think i changed them again, not sure :p
[14:11] <dashua> Got it
[14:11] <dashua> Thx
[14:11] <SiDi> gonna upload a pic, tell me if its what it looks like ^^
[14:12] <SiDi> http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8325/foo.png
[14:14] <dashua> Nice
[14:30] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13698/screenshot_006_qhUmnx.png
[14:30] <dashua> Great. Added :)
[14:33] <dashua> panel prelights look much better
[14:37] <SiDi> woohoo looks sexy on gnome
[14:37] <SiDi> oh btw the fonts aint bold on xfce ;) i dunno if its volunteer or not
[14:49] <dashua> No ,its defined in the gtkrc
[14:49] <dashua> Not sure how it translates in Xfce
[14:49] <SiDi> doesnt work :P
[14:50] <SiDi> I'm not sure the panel accepts bold fonts
[14:54] <kwwii> thorwil, everyone: what do you think of including a set of background based on adjectives instead of the typical photographic conventions like nature, etc?
[14:55] <kwwii> so something like "fun" for instance
[14:56] <SiDi> emotions / atmospheres ?
[14:56] <kwwii> right
[14:56] <SiDi> I think it could be better
[14:57] <kwwii> SiDi: ok, how would you make it bettr?
[14:57] <SiDi> for instance i dont care if my background is a place, an animal, etc, as long as its "modern" and well polished
[14:58] <thorwil> kwwii, adjectives, slogans, art-styles ...
[14:58] <SiDi> the problem is about categorizing the wallpapers, but apart from that, sorting them according to what we think they're designed for could be interesting
[14:58] <kwwii> SiDi: right, modern could be one of the adjectives
[14:58] <thorwil> SiDi, modern and polish does narrow it down so much that only the titanic could still slip through
[14:58] <SiDi> (and i honnestly think canonical SHOULD get some high quality photos and ship them as wallpapers)
[14:59] <SiDi> thorwil: its not modern anymore :D
[14:59] <thorwil> kwwii, or postmodern? ;>
[14:59] <SiDi> or post mortem :O
[14:59] <kwwii> :p
[15:31] <SiDi> thorwil kwwii dashua have a nice day
[23:35]  * _MMA_ waves
[23:36] <SiDi> Heya Cory
[23:36] <_MMA_> yo yo
[23:36] <SiDi> wow, you didnt join this chan for ages :)
[23:37] <_MMA_> I started a new job. Been *real* busy. But the money has been well worth it. I'm still very active on the list.
[23:38] <SiDi> I'm quite busy too, but i don't even gain money from my work :P
[23:39] <_MMA_> Too bad.
[23:40] <_MMA_> 55hr work weeks so far here. Real good money. Will allow me to pay things off in a hurry and buy some toys. ;)
[23:40] <SiDi> Wow
[23:40] <SiDi> 55hours is a lot :p Last time i worked i stopped at 43 and it was already too much (but wasnt really comp sci tho x_x)
[23:41] <_MMA_> I'm gonna buy the kids a Wii then Ill get myself 2 new 20' monitors. Those beside my 24" I'll have a 20"/24"/20" setup. :P
[23:41] <SiDi> Heh
[23:41]  * _MMA_ works with his hands. Custom metal fabrication.
[23:41] <SiDi> Ouch
[23:42] <SiDi> I was working on a cardboard factory :P
[23:42] <_MMA_> It's not bad. Pretty fun actually. Lots of math and I get to use big tools. ;)
[23:42] <SiDi> easier to work on and carry than metal
[23:43] <_MMA_> Ok well I'm gonna run. I'll idle. Gotta go out but will make a Breathe update later.
[23:44] <SiDi> Have fun :P