[08:26] <freeflying> maco: arounds?
[12:09] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[12:09] <kubotu> apachelogger is listening to "One More Time (Feat. Romanthony)" by Daft Punk; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[12:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: ping
[13:55] <freeflying> Riddell: I've tried kimpanel for a while, seems smoothly, and solved some focus in issues
[14:43] <ghostcube> o/
[14:43] <ghostcube> dist-upgrade working again proposed has hurried up
[14:43] <ghostcube> :D
[14:56] <ghostcube> forget it the anjuta problem still exists
[14:56] <ghostcube> :|
[14:56] <ghostcube> maybe anyone can poke the guys doing this
[14:59] <ghostcube> boah this damn package stops all others to be brought in
[14:59] <ghostcube> and th8is for 2 weeks now
[15:22] <ghostcube> who is doing the openoffice repos :)
[15:59] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: kradioripper question - in the changelog you note that you repacked the tar.bz2 to tar.gz - is this something new? I have never done this in the past as dh_make has always linked the orig.tar.gz to the tar.bz2 without any problems
[15:59] <nixternal> just wondering if we are supposed to do it like this from now on
[16:13] <a|wen> g'evening fellows
[16:15] <neversfelde> should I try to get bilbo in debian unstable or is that waste of time?
[16:16] <nixternal> apachelogger: I am not digging this kdepim-docs thing...the doc should be installed with the package
[16:17]  * nixternal wonders if that was done as a space saving trick
[16:20] <a|wen> nixternal: i think that the docs should be kept mostly with the application (think we talked about it prior to release, but ended up agreeing that it was to risky that close to release)
[16:21] <nixternal> a|wen: ahh, ya I kind of remember that..and that was me iirc who brought it up too :p
[16:21] <nixternal> my brain is friend this early in the morning
[16:21] <nixternal> jeesh
[16:21] <nixternal> s/friend/fried
[16:21] <a|wen> morning? ... oh well :)
[16:22] <nixternal> hehe
[16:28] <jussi01> welll... that was really bad, but damn good at the same time...
[16:32] <Nightrose> help! upgrade to jaunty broke my main desktop :(
[16:32] <Nightrose> X is b0rked
[16:32] <Nightrose> trying to repair X in recovery mode doesn't seem to help
[16:32] <Nightrose> any ideas?
[16:35] <nixternal> Nightrose: how is X borked?
[16:36] <Nightrose> nixternal: linux boots and when it is done and supposed to show the login screen i get strange stuff then blank screen then strange stuff again and I can't do anything
[16:37] <Nightrose> strange stuff being graphic bogus
[16:37] <nixternal> mv your xorg.conf so you don't have one...tried that yet?
[16:38] <Nightrose> i thought that's what the thing in recovery mode does...
[16:38] <Nightrose> but let me try
[16:39] <nixternal> i thought so as well, but i have had recovery mode fail on me, then I would just rm the xorg.conf and reboot and all was well
[16:41] <Nightrose> nixternal: nope :/  same result
[16:42] <Nightrose> any other ideas?
[16:43] <dtchen> what graphics card?
[16:43] <Nightrose> hmmm no idea
[16:43] <Nightrose> how do i find out?
[16:43]  * Nightrose isn't much into hardware stuff 
[16:44] <nixternal> lspci
[16:45] <Nightrose> ok give me a sec
[16:47] <Nightrose> dtchen: ati radeon r350 [radeon 9800 pro] if i read that right
[16:49]  * txwikinger wonders where he can configure the place of the notifications popping up
[16:49] <txwikinger> Nightrose: is it an nvidia?
[16:49] <txwikinger> oh. ati
[16:50] <txwikinger> I had to get a newer driver for an nvidia card
[16:50] <Nightrose> i have some nvidia stuff in lscpi too but but it doesn'tlook like my graphics card
[16:50] <dtchen> Nightrose: dpkg -l xorg-driver-fglrx|grep ^ii
[16:50] <jussi01> ahh, its one of the dropped support from fglrx irrc...
[16:51] <txwikinger> yeah, radeon is ati IIRC
[16:51] <nixternal> ya, same card I have sitting next to me on my desk
[16:52] <Nightrose> dtchen: 2:8.600-0ubuntu2
[16:52] <Nightrose> xorg-driver-fglrx
[16:52] <dtchen> Nightrose: try removing it; you should be using the ati driver
[16:52] <Nightrose> ok
[16:53]  * txwikinger goes to look for a lawn mower
[16:53]  * Nightrose reboots the box
[16:54] <dtchen> afterward, you'll need "sudo apt-get --reinstall install mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-ati
[16:54] <dtchen> err, you rebooted already
[16:55] <Nightrose> heh no problem
[16:55]  * Nightrose goes back to command line
[16:55] <dtchen> sorry, that should have been:
[16:55] <dtchen> afterward, you'll need "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-ati
[16:55] <dtchen> sigh, add xserver-xorg-video-ati
[16:55] <dtchen> bad paste!
[16:55] <Nightrose> ;-)
[16:59] <ghostcube> offtopic but pls all german read it and help us
[16:59] <ghostcube> http://www.pbportal.de/forum/showthread.php?t=202618
[17:04] <Nightrose> dtchen: my screen no longer turn black - but the rest is the same :(
[17:05] <dtchen> Nightrose: what colour is it now?
[17:05] <dtchen> also, please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:05] <Nightrose> all kinds of colors - graphics garbage
[17:05] <Nightrose> heh if you tell me how...
[17:05] <dtchen> you can install pastebinit to do it from the command line
[17:05] <Nightrose> k
[17:06] <nixternal> argh, this guy in chicago, who annoys me frequently, comes to me, asks me to help him with his wifi issue
[17:06] <nixternal> I start helping him, tell him to do 'dpkg -l linux-restricted* | grep ^ii' then run uname -r to see if the versions match up
[17:07] <nixternal> he tells me he can't, the network won't let him, and he can spoof his ip address and what not...this guy is so stupid he probably learned the word spoof from the TV show 24 and now he is just rambling on about nonsense and driving me up a wall
[17:07] <nixternal> can we add a section to the CoC that makes beat downs necessary in some circumstances?
[17:08] <a|wen> dtchen / Nightrose: might be worth a trying to change to XAA ... i had graphic garbage problems with my ati r300 until doing that
[17:08] <nixternal> this dummy said he has to reboot and loose connectivity before he can do it....OMG HELP ME!!!
[17:08] <a|wen> nixternal: sure ... you didn't see the exceptions part written white-on-white at the bottom :P
[17:09]  * nixternal gets to highlighting the bottom of the CoC :)
[17:09] <Nightrose> dtchen: http://pastebin.com/f31995790 should be it
[17:09] <Nightrose> a|wen: how? what does it do?
[17:11] <a|wen> Nightrose: it's basically just switching the way X draws on the screen to an ancient way of doing it
[17:11] <a|wen> Nightrose: http://paste.ubuntu.com/167921/ <-- /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:11] <nixternal> Section "ServerFlags" Option  "DontZap"       "False"
[17:11] <nixternal> EndSection
[17:11] <nixternal> there is my xorg.conf :)
[17:12] <a|wen> Nightrose: to restart X you can just switch to a terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 and do "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart"
[17:12] <a|wen> nixternal: he :P
[17:13] <Nightrose> a|wen: cntr alt fsomething does nothing
[17:13] <Nightrose> already tried that :/
[17:14] <a|wen> oh, then X really doesn't like you ... alt(gr)+sysrq+k should apparently be able to kill X
[17:15]  * Nightrose boots into a livecd and checks what happens there
[17:16] <dtchen> i think disabling dri will help
[17:16] <a|wen> that might also be a possibility
[17:18] <Nightrose> how do i do that?
[17:18] <dtchen> you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:22] <Nightrose> ok live cd doesn
[17:22] <Nightrose> t work either
[17:22] <Nightrose> disabeling dri it is then
[17:23]  * Nightrose finds out how to do that
[17:24] <a|wen> Nightrose: Option "DRI" "off"
[17:24] <a|wen> put it in the same section as the XAA one
[17:24] <Nightrose> i just add that to xorg.conf?
[17:25] <Nightrose> ok
[17:25] <a|wen> Nightrose: exactly ... in the same way as the XAA one
[17:28] <Nightrose> ok let's see
[17:28] <Nightrose> wohooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[17:28]  * Nightrose hugs dtchen and a|wen 
[17:28] <Nightrose> i have a login screen
[17:28] <Nightrose> \o/
[17:28] <nixternal> lol
[17:29] <Nightrose> thanks guys :)
[17:29] <Nightrose> let's see if the rest works
[17:29] <a|wen> yay :)
[17:29] <a|wen> that is first step, he
[17:30] <Nightrose> ok login worked
[17:30] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[17:30] <kubotu> apachelogger is listening to "Ny Excuse" by Justice; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[17:30] <Nightrose> i think i can deal with the rest
[17:30] <Nightrose> i just hope this never happens to my mom... :/
[17:31] <dtchen> if 2d performance is terribly sluggish, you can try reenabling DRI (commenting out the line to disable DRI)
[17:31] <dtchen> shouldn't quite be an issue, but it's in the notes
[17:31] <Nightrose> it seems ok so far
[17:31] <dtchen> sorry, should have been more precise earlier
[17:31] <Nightrose> no problem
[17:33] <Nightrose> hmmmm now if it would actually launch a program that would be grand... :(
[17:34] <Nightrose> ah - non-kde programs seem to work
[17:34] <Nightrose> but not kde ones
[17:34]  * Nightrose kicks herself for upgrading
[17:39] <nixternal> http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/79327/thumbs/s-WHEEL-OF-FORTUNE-large.jpg  <- who can guess the word?
[17:45] <lex79> JontheEchidna:  https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-stasks/0.5.1-0ubuntu2
[17:46] <lex79> Build-Depend on kdelibs5-dev instead of libplasma-dev as the former now
[17:46] <lex79> provides the headers.
[17:46] <lex79> uhm? is it correct?
[17:49] <apachelogger> Nightrose: debug output is?
[17:49] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i can't even open a konsole :(
[17:49] <apachelogger> xterm
[17:49] <apachelogger> or use a tty
[17:50] <apachelogger> export DISPLAY=:0 && konsole
[17:50] <Nightrose> xsessionerrors indicates some problem with kdeniglty
[17:50] <apachelogger> for example
[17:50] <Nightrose> upgrading that now
[17:50] <apachelogger> one more time, eh? :D
[17:51] <Nightrose> hmmm
[17:51] <Nightrose> worst upgrade ever so far for me :(
[17:51] <Nightrose> and the one to gutsy was bad already
[17:53] <JontheEchidna> lex79: yep, libplasma moved to kdelibs in KDE 4.2, and Debian moved the files from libplasma-dev into kdelibs5-dev
[17:54] <lex79> ok ;)
[17:54] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: Ah, lex79 packaged that. In my opinion I would have just silently repacked the tarball without any mention (we do this in KDE) but technically it's not wrong I suppose
[17:58]  * apachelogger is really wondering what Nightrose does wrong
[17:58] <Nightrose> apachelogger: old hardware for one
[17:59]  * Nightrose doesn't have money to buy nice and fancy stuff though
[17:59] <apachelogger> report bugs and be a pita about them ;-)
[17:59] <apachelogger> old hardware is no excuse for broken system after upgrade
[17:59] <Nightrose> i'd rather hit someone on the head for that one ;-)
[18:00] <Nightrose> of course not
[18:00] <a|wen> Nightrose: your hardware is not old enough ... that is the problem ;)
[18:00] <tuhina> Nightrose: is Nightrose, thats whats wrong :P
[18:00] <Nightrose> a|wen: ooooooooooooooook - even worse
[18:00] <tuhina> *g*
[18:00]  * apachelogger grabs his sword of power and jumps at tuhina
[18:00] <Nightrose> tuhina: that might be the other problem yea
[18:00] <Nightrose> hehe
[18:01]  * Nightrose waits for all the nightly stuff to download
[18:01] <apachelogger> you must have a lota spare time then :P
[18:01]  * tuhina hopes people have noticed that he is not some stranger making rude remarks... :P
[18:01] <Nightrose> apachelogger: not really - but what can I do...
[18:01] <apachelogger> tuhina: you are a strange as one can get :P
[18:01]  * Nightrose goes and finishes knitting her socks
[18:02] <Nightrose> maybe that helps
[18:02] <apachelogger> socks for konqueror?
[18:02]  * tuhina hugs apachelogger
[18:03] <Nightrose> :D
[18:03] <lex79> launchpad bug 373361
[18:03] <apachelogger> one moar time!
[18:03] <apachelogger> hm, I gotta stop that addiction
[18:04] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[18:04] <kubotu> apachelogger is listening to "Ny Excuse" by Justice; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[18:04]  * nixternal wishes knemo had the blinky icons of past
[18:04] <apachelogger> that song is incredibly awesome as well
[18:04]  * apachelogger wishes nixternal had kidnapped some artist by now :S
[18:04] <tuhina> !info knemo
[18:05] <nixternal> heh, I packaged that knemo, but I have no idea what I did with it, besides installing it
[18:06] <apachelogger> what do you do with that network icon thingy in seven?
[18:06] <apachelogger> good thing it is not on by default though
[18:06] <nixternal> seven?
[18:06] <apachelogger> kubotu: google seven
[18:06] <kubotu> Results for seven: 1. Se7en (1995): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114369/ | 2. Seven For All Mankind: http://www.7forallmankind.com/ | 3. SEVEN: http://www.seven.com/
[18:06] <apachelogger> hm
[18:06] <nixternal> heh
[18:06] <apachelogger> kubotu: wp: windows 7
[18:07] <tuhina> 42
[18:07] <tuhina> what?
[18:07] <apachelogger> kubotu: wp windows 7
[18:07] <kubotu> Results for windows 7: 1. Windows 7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7 | 2. Features new to Windows 7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7 | 3. Windows 7: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7
[18:07] <kubotu> [1] ‹ The template below (Beta software) is being considered for deletion. See templates for deletion to help reach a consensus. ›
[18:07] <apachelogger> there we go
[18:07] <apachelogger> o/
[18:07] <apachelogger> \o
[18:07] <apachelogger> \o/
[18:10] <apachelogger> nixternal: it really depends on the space saving ... re -docs
[18:10] <apachelogger> maybe you can squeeze some extra saving out of it by using lzma :D
[18:10] <nixternal> or getting rid of other things
[18:11] <nixternal> like...
[18:11] <chx> hi. I would like to ask to make Konversation the default client in Karmic again and would like to report that so far , the konversationdeb from Debian Experimental works very well here. It crashed a lot less (zero) than Plasma / kwin...
[18:11] <nixternal> oo.o :p
[18:11] <nixternal> honestly, i would like to see 0 IRC clients by default, as it is probably the least used app installed by default (popcon)
[18:12] <apachelogger> nixternal: well, space saving is a good idea with and without ooo
[18:12] <apachelogger> can put more fancy software on the cd :D
[18:12] <chx> nixternal: well, its an app to ask for support in #kubuntu i preusme
[18:13] <smarter> it's also a great way to join development without even thinking about it :p
[18:13]  * apachelogger doubts both
[18:14] <chx> smarter: sorry -- i do not have time to help Kubuntu, another open source project consumed my life already.
[18:14] <chx> (and i am glad for that)
[18:16] <nixternal> chx: yes, that is correct, so that is why I understand it being installed by default, plus the IRC packages are relatively small
[18:18] <apachelogger> nixternal: quassel is not, we forgot to turn off debug or at least strip to -dbg, so the thingy is 50 MiB IIRC ;-)
[18:18] <apachelogger> extracted size that is
[18:21] <a|wen> oh yeah ... has someone fixed that in karmic already :)
[18:23] <nixternal> yikes
[18:29] <smarter> apachelogger: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kububntu/PlasmaWidgetNetworkManager << is the typo intentional?
[18:30] <a|wen> haha
[18:31]  * a|wen didn't even see that the many times he edited those pages
[18:32] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ok installing kde-nightly makes it possible to start kde apps again \o/
[18:32] <apachelogger> weird that sounds
[18:32] <chx> is NetworkManager finally capable of a) tolerating the options set in command line b) connect to adhoc? if neither then why not use wicd which can do both?
[18:32] <apachelogger> smarter: lul
[18:32] <apachelogger> no
[18:33] <apachelogger> that is what you get for trying to use subpages
[18:33] <smarter> :}
[18:36] <lex79> JontheEchidna: is it a sync? not merge? those differences are not important?
[18:38] <JontheEchidna> Yeah, the remaining differences aren't important at all really
[18:39] <JontheEchidna> the debian package built fine here
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> lex79: I'm checking out kmess here too, and it's looking like you could file a sync request for that too
[18:41] <lex79> JontheEchidna: ok
[18:42] <JontheEchidna> Just tell me when you've filed the requests and I'll give an MOTU ack and subscribe ubuntu-archive
[18:44] <lex79> so, before I have to mark invalid those bugs?
[18:45] <JontheEchidna> or you could mark them duplicates of the new one
[18:46] <ScottK> Duplicate is much better.
[18:46] <lex79> ok
[18:46] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I should have emphasized that a bit more
[18:48] <Nightrose> hmmm all of kdeedu was removed during my upgrade as well :(
[18:48] <Nightrose> *sigh*
[18:49]  * Nightrose ponders bothering at all upgrading her eeepc as well
[18:59] <lex79> JontheEchidna launchpad bug 374204
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> lex79: acked
[19:08] <lex79> JontheEchidna launchpad bug 374211
[19:09] <JontheEchidna> ok, done :)
[19:10] <lex79> gooood :)
[19:19] <JontheEchidna> whee, our first KDE 4.2.3 regression: kde bug 192018
[19:20] <JontheEchidna> bug 374143
[19:25] <lex79> RSSnow is a beutiful widget full of bugs
[19:25] <lex79> instead, launchpad bug 366880 is fixed
[20:07] <nixternal> dtchen: what are the chances of you being around with a few minutes to spare? I have a local guy with a HDA Intel sound issue....he filed a report and even used the sound shell script
[20:15] <JontheEchidna> cool, strigi straight from Debian unstable build
[20:15] <JontheEchidna> s
[20:15] <nixternal> did it work?
[20:15] <JontheEchidna> It seems our stack can now handle the symbols files. :) I'm going to have to file a sync request
[20:15] <nixternal> I want to test strigi with docs or get khc to use strigi instead of an unmaintained htdig
[20:15] <nixternal> sorry, ht://dig
[20:16] <JontheEchidna> dunno, I'm just expressing my delight that we can handle debian's symbol files now, allowing us to sync
[20:16] <JontheEchidna> I don't really use  strigi that much, ever since it ate up 20 GB of my hard drive
[20:18] <JontheEchidna> but that was back in the gutsy days
[20:18] <nixternal> ya, it didn't the same to me
[20:25] <dtchen> nixternal: i'm around for a few minutes
[20:25] <nixternal> dtchen: mind hopping in #ubuntu-chicago for a minute?
[20:25] <dtchen> i won't be watching this channel, though, since i'm scouring GSt pulsesink fixes
[20:25] <dtchen> nixternal: sure, i'll be there in ~5-10 minutes
[20:25] <nixternal> oh fun
[20:25] <nixternal> groovy, the guys name is bob something or other
[20:27] <Mamarok> against what package should I file a Strigi bug, Nepomuk?
[20:27] <nixternal> should be strigi or is it soemthinganalyzer? I can't remember
[20:28] <JontheEchidna> the source package's name is strigi
[20:29] <Mamarok> just asked in kde, should be filed against Nepomuk
[20:30] <a|wen> ahh, you are upstream...
[20:32] <Mamarok> well, no, I will file it in launchpad first :) there seems to be  no such bug upstream anyway
[20:33] <Mamarok> but at least it would be doen correctly, all Strigi should be filed agains Nepomuk as it seems, there isn't a strigi product in bugzilla anyway
[20:38] <Mamarok> and there is no upstream bug, it's related to Jaunty not using the correct java path and the wrong Nepomuk backend, still redland instead of sesame2 which is used in KDE since 4.1...
[20:38] <Mamarok> great...
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> if you go to systemsettings -> nepomuk it should offer to install the sesame backedn
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> you're possibly experiencing bug 334186
[20:42] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: not for me
[20:44] <Mamarok> there is no such option
[20:44] <Mamarok> using 4.2.3
[20:45] <Mamarok> and I have never seen one
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> update-notifier-kde should pop up a knotification saying that there are extra packages that can be installed for better functionality
[20:45] <Mamarok> at least Nepomuk is running now without eating all my CPU, but can't run Strigi, and this seems to happen to a lot of people with Jaunty
[20:46] <Mamarok> let's have a look
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> triggered by going to the Desktop Search section of System Settings
[20:47] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: nope, nothing at all
[20:47] <Mamarok> and I have the necessary packages installed
[20:47] <JontheEchidna> oh, if it's installed then it should work, pending the bug I mentioned above
[20:47] <lex79> JontheEchidna: pkg-kde-tools transition is only for kde4 applications or also for kde3 apps?
[20:48] <JontheEchidna> only for KDE4 apps
[20:48] <lex79> thx
[20:49] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: there is a missing symlink for Java as it seems, trying the workaround
[20:50] <lex79> the workaround work fine here
[20:50] <lex79> *works
[20:50] <Mamarok> let's see what happens if I restart KDE...
[20:58] <Mamarok> oh man, I never actually manage to logout from Jaunty, freezes dead everything
[20:58] <Mamarok> but then that might be the radeon driver or XRender or whatever
[20:59]  * Mamarok wants her fglrx back that worked so nicely in Intrepid
[21:06] <JontheEchidna> Any core-dev around that could sponsor bug 372700 and bug 373947?
[21:08] <Mamarok> JontheEchidna: that workaround doesn't work for me :(
[21:08] <Mamarok> still no working Strigi
[21:31]  * neversfelde wonders why plasma-widget-windowslist is gone in karmic
[21:32] <JontheEchidna> renamed to windowlist, with no s
[21:32] <JontheEchidna> hmm, there probably should be a dummy package in windowlist
[21:34]  * JontheEchidna uploads a fix
[21:35] <neversfelde> and now there are two plasmoids windowlist on kde-look
[21:36] <neversfelde> mhh
[21:37] <JontheEchidna> the first one looks really old
[21:38] <neversfelde> yes
[21:38] <JontheEchidna> ok, once the next build of the plasmoid is available, installing plasma-widget-windowslist will pull in plasma-widget-windowlist
[21:39] <neversfelde> thanks, sehr gut :)
[21:39]  * JontheEchidna should have caught that when he reviewed the last update
[21:42] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: over 250 pageviews redirected from the fridge to us. You are popular, I guess :)
[21:42]  * JontheEchidna blushes
[21:43] <neversfelde> hehe
[21:45] <JontheEchidna> oh, that's why it FTBFS
[21:45] <JontheEchidna> I guess debian didn't keep libplasma-dev as a binary transitional package :/
[21:46] <JontheEchidna> I suppose we'll have to migrate all the plasmoids over to kdelibs5-dev as we update them
[21:49] <neversfelde> can I help with it or is this only a todo, when updating for a new upstream release?
[21:49] <JontheEchidna> todo, when we update
[21:50] <neversfelde> ok
[21:57] <_Groo_> hi/2 all..
[22:40] <kwwii> so if someone is going to make a plasma theme for notification bubbles what should it look like? email me with ideas!
[23:02] <lex79> launchpad bug 374247
[23:08]  * JontheEchidna takes a look
[23:14] <lex79> JontheEchidna: FTBS
[23:14] <lex79> :(
[23:14] <lex79> sorry
[23:28] <JontheEchidna> ./INSTALL:Note: Since Kraft v. 0.22 the google ctemplate library is required
[23:28] <JontheEchidna> I wonder if we have packages for that
[23:31] <lex79> /tmp/buildd/kraft-0.32/./kraft/src/texttemplate.h:22:40: error: google/template_dictionary.h: No such file or directory
[23:31] <lex79> yes, google ctemplate missing
[23:33] <lex79> maybe sparsehash package
[23:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: you pinged?
[23:36] <Riddell> freeflying: what's kimpanel?