[01:00] <m200> Hi
[01:01] <m200> Is there any one who has a way to access smb and sftp using Xunbuun 9.04?
[01:05] <R1cochet> sry i dont know
[01:05] <R1cochet> try google or the forums
[01:21] <martha_> genii,  you around
[01:26] <martha_>  Communication controller [0780]: Agere Systems LT WinModem [11c1:044e]
[01:26] <martha_>  anyone got one of these working
[01:50] <martha_> anyone else here good with winmodems unuder linux?
[01:58] <martha_> how does one run a file that ends in .pl?
[02:01] <R1cochet> i would think w/ pearl
[02:06] <martha_> ? ok
[02:06] <martha_> I thought something like ./ or sh
[02:06] <R1cochet> i dunno honestly
[02:06] <R1cochet> just a guess
[03:15] <R1cochet> what can i use to create an iso of a dvd movie i have? like if i just want to make a 1:1 copy of it
[03:17] <R1cochet> nvm
[03:17] <R1cochet> brasero should work fine
[03:49] <J_Litewski> zoredache_, can you verify that if you run xfce4-sensors from a terminal and exit it from the 'X' button, the terminal hangs until you press Ctrl+C
[04:02] <artistxe> J_Litewski, you are assuming that he has them installed
[04:03] <artistxe> ?
[04:49] <Yud_Zroc> whats more stable 8.04 ot 9.04
[04:52] <R1cochet> both seem equal to me
[04:52] <Yud_Zroc> hm i guess ill try 9.04
[04:54] <R1cochet> u can always try the livecd's
[04:55] <Yud_Zroc> im using kubuntu, but it is too buggy for me.....and i want simplicity and it to be very light\
[04:55] <Yud_Zroc> i dont care much about eye candy
[04:56] <R1cochet> yes kde is buggy
[04:56] <R1cochet> i liked xfce more than gnome
[04:56] <Yud_Zroc> gnome is turning to a vista its making my want to cry
[04:57] <R1cochet> well then i wont recommend compiz
[04:57] <R1cochet> lol
[04:57] <Yud_Zroc> does xu come with pigin im, and open office org
[05:04] <infdo> is anyone here?
[05:04] <Yud_Zroc> i am
[05:04] <infdo> why does xubuntu need its own channel?
[05:05] <Yud_Zroc> cause it uses another DE
[05:05] <Yud_Zroc> and coding could be different idk
[05:05] <infdo> what does a different DE include?
[05:06] <infdo> are there different packages?
[05:06] <Yud_Zroc> different repos
[05:06] <R1cochet> Yud_Zroc: it comes w/ pidgin but ull have to dl OOo from repos
[05:06] <infdo> different commands?
[05:06] <Yud_Zroc> ok
[05:06] <R1cochet> its comes w/ abiword and gnumeris
[05:06] <Yud_Zroc> R1cochet: can i remove them\
[05:06] <R1cochet> of course
[05:07] <R1cochet> u can remove from synaptic or terminal
[05:07] <infdo> R1cochet: can i install open office if i want?
[05:07] <R1cochet> thats the first thing i do :)
[05:07] <R1cochet> get rid of abiword and gnumeris
[05:07] <R1cochet> yes
[05:07] <R1cochet> its in repos
[05:07] <Yud_Zroc> does it use apt-get
[05:07] <R1cochet> yep
[05:07] <R1cochet> sudo apt-get remove abiword gnumeric
[05:08] <infdo> R1cochet: does it have the "add/remove programs" feature?
[05:08] <R1cochet> or sudo apt-get purge abiword, and sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:08] <R1cochet> yes
[05:08] <R1cochet> it has add/remove as well as synaptic package manager
[05:09] <infdo> so why would anyone choose ubuntu over xubuntu?
[05:09] <R1cochet> ubuntu uses gnome and xubuntu uses xfce
[05:09] <R1cochet> its all preference
[05:09] <R1cochet> i prefer xfce
[05:10] <R1cochet> also i recommend after u install that u remove gnome-screensaver and opt for xscreensaver
[05:10] <R1cochet> more options, u can fine tune each screensaver
[05:11] <infdo> so if i install xfce then my system is officially xubuntu?
[05:11] <R1cochet> i guess yea
[05:11] <Yud_Zroc> xscreensaver?
[05:11] <R1cochet> r u on ubuntu now?
[05:11] <infdo> yeah
[05:12] <R1cochet> i think theres a howto somewhere on switching to xfce
[05:12] <Yud_Zroc> yesh
[05:12] <Yud_Zroc> open up syn
[05:12] <Yud_Zroc> the search xfce-desktop-enviornment (spelling might be off)
[05:12] <R1cochet> xscreensaver is the aplet that lets u control the screensavers
[05:13] <R1cochet> far superior to gnome-screensaver
[05:13] <infdo> can i go to the ubuntu channel for xubuntu support?
[05:14] <R1cochet> yes on some things
[05:14] <R1cochet> i have
[05:14] <R1cochet> just depends on what it is
[05:14] <infdo> what things cant i go there for?
[05:14] <R1cochet> i have no idea
[05:15] <R1cochet> prolly xfce issues
[05:15] <infdo> what does ubuntu have that xubuntu doesnt?
[05:15] <infdo> i remember installing xubuntu once
[05:16] <R1cochet> nothing that ive needed
[05:16] <infdo> and it didnt have something that ubuntu did have
[05:16] <R1cochet> like?
[05:16] <infdo> i forgot what
[05:17] <infdo> are there any compatibility issues with any third party programs?
[05:17] <R1cochet> also xfce can run gnome and kde apps
[05:17] <R1cochet> dunno
[05:17] <R1cochet> ud have to google that
[05:18] <Yud_Zroc> because xu and u use the same base most things such as drivers are the same (nvidia, audio, wireless, etc)
[05:27] <infdo> R1cochet, Yud_Zroc: how does xubuntu make itself more lightweight?
[05:27] <infdo> specifically, how does it make the desktop environment more lightweight?
[05:28] <Yud_Zroc> less clutter and your memery locations types
[05:28] <Yud_Zroc> it manages memery easier cause it uses programs that use less ram
[05:28] <Yud_Zroc> making calculations faster by using less memery
[05:29] <infdo> what do you mean by less clutter?
[05:29] <R1cochet> less shit
[05:29] <infdo> less packages?
[05:29] <Yud_Zroc> like a car that is almost the same except for the casing...one has fiborglass the other is metal
[05:30] <R1cochet> .comparison xfce  to gnome
[05:30] <infdo> what?
[05:30] <R1cochet> wrong channel sry
[06:56] <nikolam> I just want to express my rage over Whole system blocking (and sound and video twitching and everything) while updates are installing.
[06:56] <nikolam> They Should do that in Background aargh
[06:56] <nikolam> 8.04 LTS 64bit
[08:09] <DICKBOYZ> hi all
[08:14] <SiDi> nikolam, its DONE in background
[08:14] <SiDi> don't think its DESIGNED to eat all your CPU..
[08:14] <SiDi> If your PC is _really_ old though, it might just lag because of it
[09:36] <nikolam> My PC is Dual core AMD at 2.5Ghz
[09:37] <nikolam> It seems it is designed to destroy all interactive usefulness while installing packages in background.
[09:38] <nikolam> i am not sure, maybe its priority could be changed somewhere
[09:44] <R1cochet> what are u talking about
[09:44] <R1cochet> i have no such issues here
[09:45] <nikolam> Very nice, I am on 64-bit Xubuntu Hardy/8.04 and you?
[09:46] <nikolam> I use software Raid1 device and 2 sata hdd`s, maybe that is bottleneck or something
[09:47] <nikolam> Since I see that every disk operation also slow things down very much, even f process is of no high priority etc
[09:47] <nikolam> I am also using fglrx driver maybe that is something to consider, too
[09:49] <R1cochet> i dunno maybe
[09:49] <nikolam> or i could try rt kernel or something
[09:50] <R1cochet> im on 32b xubuntu 9.04, amd 4400 2g ddr1 3sata, 1 which is partitioned to 2 drives for dual boot
[09:50] <nikolam> hey, Could you boot with kernel 2.6.24-24, I can only boot with 2.6.24-23
[09:50] <R1cochet> i only used 8.04 for about 2mo then 8.10 came out
[09:50] <nikolam> Ok, I see.
[09:51] <nikolam> I have testing partition on first drive for 9.04
[09:51] <nikolam> But I don`t think I will migrate any time soon, I have all new programs on this LTS I need.
[09:52] <R1cochet> gotcha, that alwats is a pain
[09:52] <R1cochet> how do i find out the kernal im running?
[09:52] <nikolam> uname -a :)
[09:53] <R1cochet> Linux Linux 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:53] <R1cochet> ive read that unless u have more than 4g ram that its pointless to run 64bit version
[09:58] <nikolam> mm maybe..
[10:09] <histo> R1cochet: not really
[10:10] <histo> R1cochet: I run 64bit and see no difference from 32bit.
[10:10] <histo> R1cochet: as far as usability. However I get performance increases in folding etc...
[10:11] <R1cochet> folding?
[10:11] <zoredache_> folding.stanford.edu
[10:12] <zoredache_> contribute your spare cpu cycles to curing cancer today :)
[10:12] <nikolam> i run 64bit. maybe 64bit os and programs use more Ram
[10:12] <histo> nikolam: they cache more memory
[10:12] <nikolam> But if you add memory lately to, say 8 gogs, you are ready for it.
[10:13] <nikolam> ops, new measurement for memory, gOgs ;) heeh
[10:20] <need> hi - anyone who could help with bluetooth keyboard?
[11:17] <Slonkie> How do i make an static IP in xubuntu?
[12:01] <nikolam> Slonkie, http://www.google.com/cse?cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=static+IP&sa=Search
[12:01] <nikolam> help.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <nikolam> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[12:38] <qwerkus> Does anyone know how to set up a working LAN chessgame between ubuntu and winxp hosts ?
[12:42] <nikolam> qwerkus, http://www.linux.com/feature/60859
[12:46] <nikolam> http://en.opensuse.org/Games/Chess
[12:48] <nikolam> http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html
[12:49] <nikolam> That`s it gnu chess with linux and windows gui backend
[12:51] <nikolam> qwerkus, http://www.tim-mann.org/ics.html
[12:56] <nikolam> http://sourceforge.net/projects/chessd/
[13:10] <qwerkus> Great; thank you very much
[13:10] <qwerkus> !
[13:15] <Skizoboy> hey there
[15:04] <valdur55> hello
[15:05] <valdur55> I have lost my panels.
[15:05] <charlie-tca> !panels
[15:06] <valdur55> Nice :)
[15:06] <valdur55> panels are back.
[15:07] <charlie-tca> :-)
[15:07] <valdur55> I have been in linux two weeks :)
[15:08] <charlie-tca> Welcome to Xubuntu. It only gets better
[15:09] <valdur55> yea :) Like four days in xfce.
[15:12] <valdur55> Damn.. My cpu is 100%
[15:13] <charlie-tca> You can use system monitor from Applications -> System -> System Monitor to see what is causing that.
[15:16] <valdur55> CPU Graph give false alarm?
[15:17] <charlie-tca> In System Monitor?
[15:17] <valdur55> In panel :)
[15:18] <charlie-tca> I don't know. It might not be giving correct increments
[15:18] <valdur55> i think. X-serv restart is best way
[15:18] <valdur55> ;) BRB!
[15:36] <valdur55> How can get my keyboard Hot keys?
[15:36] <valdur55> Like Seach,Home,Back,Favourites, Play, Pause, AP1 etc.
[15:45] <valdur55> How can make my Bottom bar larger?
[15:45] <charlie-tca> what version of Xubuntu?
[15:45] <valdur55> I want to two rows.
[15:46] <valdur55> )
[15:46] <valdur55> 9
[15:46] <valdur55> 9.04 maybe
[15:46] <valdur55> lastest ;)
[15:46] <charlie-tca> Don't know how to make it two rows.
[15:51] <valdur55> Nice :)
[15:51] <valdur55> I changed syse of panel to 50 pixels
[16:13] <vitron> .
[18:04] <Wunderbar> is there a way to remove the excess options from the menu...a lot of kde apps that I don't use in xubuntu..
[18:24] <Yud_Zroc> why doesnt my cell phone automaticly mount like it does in kubuntu and/or ubuntu
[18:29] <J_Litewski> Yud_Zroc, what do you mean?
[18:29] <J_Litewski> like, when you plug it in?
[18:35] <Yud_Zroc> ya
[18:35] <Yud_Zroc> usually it popped up
[18:35] <Yud_Zroc> but it aint
[18:36] <Yud_Zroc> it wont even detect it in the file manager
[18:36] <Yud_Zroc> but my phone knows it is plugged in
[18:39] <J_Litewski> huh
[18:40] <J_Litewski> sounds like a problem or feature left out of Exo
[18:42] <Slonkie> Anybody know's where emesene keeps it's configuration files?
[20:24] <satuon> I've got a problem, I installed compiz and Alt+F2 stopped working.
[20:24] <artistxe> strange. works here
[20:25] <artistxe> did you check your keyboard settings ( settings manager ) ?
[20:28] <satuon> actually it works after i go to settings->keyboard and re-set the shortcut to be Alt+F2 (and it was Alt+F2 before that, so i haven't changed anything)
[20:29] <satuon> but each time i start compiz it stops working again :(
[20:33] <knome> satuon, sounds like compiz is stealing that shortcut for some other use.
[20:33] <knome> satuon, once running compiz, what does alt+f2 do?
[20:35] <satuon> nothing
[20:36] <satuon> i mean, nothing that i can see
[20:36] <Besogon> How can I find out driver of my Cd-rom?
[20:37] <satuon> is there any way to see to what's Alt+F2 binding?
[20:37] <satuon> some file that i can text-search for 'alt+f2'?
[20:40] <charlie-tca> Besogon: look in /var/log/dmesg for cd-rom
[20:40] <Besogon> !paste
[20:40] <charlie-tca> All you have to do is open it in mousepad and search for cd-rom
[20:41] <charlie-tca> Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 is what mine says
[20:42] <Besogon> charlie-tca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/168111/ How can I know where is word of the name driver?
[20:43] <charlie-tca> Mine is about 2 lines after that
[20:44] <charlie-tca> My second cd-rw drive doesn't show any driver. It might be built into the kernel
[20:48] <Besogon> 'Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods' what is mean that string? It has just after 2 lines that was pasted there by me
[20:52] <charlie-tca> I don't know
[20:52] <Besogon> cdrecord dont work for me. I'v been trying burning dvd-rw with multisession and without result. hm...(
[21:15] <slow-motion> hi
[21:15] <Slonkie> Evening slow-motion :)
[21:16] <slow-motion> hi Slonkie
[21:19] <artistxe> I know that this is the Xubuntu room. but I was curious . does anyone have any opinions on switching over to Linux Mint XFCE ?
[21:19] <artistxe> as in. reasons not to ?
[21:21] <artistxe> I keep reading that Mint is an "improved" version of xubuntu and besides newbie friendliness I cannot figure out why.
[21:22] <charlie-tca> Doesn't Mint have all the codecs?
[21:23] <artistxe> "all the codecs"  ? by that you mean media ?
[21:24] <artistxe> downloading the iso right now. I am not sure if it will run live though.
[21:25] <charlie-tca> yeah, Isn't Mint a mulimedia distro?
[21:25] <charlie-tca> !mint
[21:29] <Slonkie> Is Mint build on ubuntu too?
[21:29] <artistxe> charlie-tca, did not know that it was a multimedia distro. I have what I need with Xubuntu though
[21:30] <artistxe> supposed to be lighter and "out of the box"
[21:30] <charlie-tca> Slonkie: yes
[21:30] <Slonkie> Okay
[21:30] <Slonkie> I must say, it does look quite nice
[21:31] <charlie-tca> Just because it is not xubuntu doesn't mean it can not look nice...
[21:31] <artistxe> :)
[21:32] <Slonkie> Lol
[21:33] <artistxe> well. it is not going to kill me to try it out. but I would hate to reconfig my entire setup . I could save my home dir I think and swap it out ...update the installed programs. but the OS would have to impress me to do that.
[21:34] <artistxe> the I would have to start #mint
[21:34] <artistxe> ;)
[22:11] <Brad777> Hi anyone here have a mic working successfully? I tried to follow the guides but I don't understand what they are telling me to do I'm a noob at linux and it's hard to follow unless i'm given specific commands to type :-(.
[23:11]  * artistxe will report back tomorrow after doing extensive testing on Mint
[23:19] <T`> hi, anyone here have issues with getting xfce to store the keybaord shortcut settings?
[23:34] <slow-motion> n8
[23:35] <KoshB5> How do I log into the root?  ndiswrapper instrucions says I need to do so in order to install it
[23:37] <knome> KoshB5, prefix every command with "sudo"
[23:38] <KoshB5> Knome; thanx