| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 00:42 |
|---|---|---|
| _Groo_ | any dev alive? | 00:42 |
| nixternal | they all died :p | 00:52 |
| lex79 | :P | 00:53 |
| nixternal | accidentally dropped the fish bowl holding the devs | 00:53 |
| * claydoh goes back to quassel | 01:18 | |
| JontheEchidna | blah, power outages suck | 03:24 |
| freeflyi1g | Riddell: a plasma applet for input method, its provide a univeral panel for some input methods, like scim, fcitx, ibus | 03:27 |
| === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying | ||
| jussi01 | Out of curiousity, Ive just come across someone with this on clean ubuntu install of jaunty, with kubutnu-desktop install through apt get. anyone seen it before? http://pastebin.ca/1418048 | 07:29 |
| nixternal | is that nalioth's issue? | 07:30 |
| jussi01 | nixternal: yeah | 07:30 |
| nixternal | serves him right :p | 07:33 |
| nixternal | jussi01: ask if he is using his old PowerPC still | 07:33 |
| jussi01 | nixternal: be nice :P | 07:33 |
| nixternal | I am | 07:35 |
| nixternal | he uses, or used to us a ppc | 07:35 |
| jussi01 | nixternal: [09:29:46] <nalioth> no, the powermac died several months ago. i'm on a dualcore Intel emt64 platform now, using the amd64 distro | 07:36 |
| nixternal | jussi01: tell him to fix the ppc then and quit complaining ;p | 07:36 |
| jussi01 | hahahq... but I said be nice... :D | 07:37 |
| nixternal | that is me being nice :p | 07:38 |
| nixternal | that is definitely an odd issue | 07:38 |
| jussi01 | yeah, I agree - hence I brought it here... | 07:38 |
| nixternal | it seems libk* didn't install correctly, that would be my guess....i wonder if it keeps happening, and if it does if he tried a different cd | 07:38 |
| jussi01 | but he apt-getted the libk* stuff | 07:39 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 07:40 |
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| === freinhar1 is now known as freinhard | ||
| Mamarok | here we go again, eagles doing support | 10:14 |
| * Mamarok waits what comes out of that | 10:14 | |
| tsimpson | if it's really bad support, call ops. giving bad advice/support is against the IRC Guidelines | 10:15 |
| * a|wen steadies Mamarok | 10:15 | |
| tsimpson | then we'll have an excuse to discuss it in great detail with him... | 10:15 |
| Mamarok | we will see | 10:15 |
| === freinhar1 is now known as freinhard | ||
| Jack8899 | I use Kubuntu 9.04. I just found out why I had no sound. Because in the mixer Surround, Center, LFE and PCM were set to mute. Why would the developers set it to mute from start... | 11:23 |
| Mamarok | Jack8899: that is not set by the developers, rather a missmatch on startup | 11:25 |
| Mamarok | and an old sound problem with Kubuntu, coming back for some people with almost every release | 11:26 |
| Jack8899 | Mamarok: Should I report this? | 11:26 |
| Mamarok | Jack8899: well, AFAIK there should already be a bug on launchpad for that, closed and repoenend numerous times | 11:27 |
| Jack8899 | they should solve this... ;) | 11:28 |
| Nightrose | anyone here on 4.2.2 to check something for me? | 11:40 |
| Mamarok | ikonia: there is a freeze with the fglrx driver for ATI though | 11:52 |
| ikonia | Mamarok: I don't doubt it | 11:53 |
| Mamarok | that Intel GC issue puzzles me though, he has a card that should work | 11:53 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | hiho | 12:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: bug 47133 ... wokaround: move libaudiocd_encoder_lame.so to seperate package | 12:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 47133 in kdemultimedia "MP3-support should be hidden when lame is not installed" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47133 | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | at least the KCM will not show the mp3 stuff then ... and I suppose the same applies for the actual slave | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | if you do that workaround make sure you add the package to restircted-extras and implement magic so that user gets notified about missing mp3 support upon accessing the slave and/or the kcm | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | anyway, gotta go | 12:47 |
| apachelogger | cya | 12:47 |
| freeflying | anyone here need use scim? | 12:57 |
| jussi01 | not I said the hedgehog... | 13:00 |
| ryanakca | nixternal: Any luck? | 13:18 |
| === peter_ is now known as vital | ||
| Riddell | yay, kde4libs finally compiled | 14:37 |
| Riddell | yay, oxygen icons too | 14:37 |
| * Riddell uploads kdepimlibs | 14:37 | |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: any news? | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: got time to sponsor 3 things? | 15:11 |
| lex79 | can you upload this launchpad bug 374290? | 15:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374290 in skrooge "New upstream release skrooge 0.2.8 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374290 | 15:50 |
| lex79 | testbuild is ok :) | 15:50 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: looking | 15:57 |
| lex79 | many thanks | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | sorry, had to take the phone, really looking now ;-) | 16:05 |
| === seele_ is now known as seele | ||
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: sure | 16:24 |
| Riddell | yay, kdepimlibs done | 16:29 |
| Riddell | we're finally getting somewhere with these merges | 16:29 |
| * Riddell upload kdebases | 16:29 | |
| JontheEchidna | bug 374228 | 16:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374228 in strigi "Sync strigi 0.6.5-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374228 | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 372700 | 16:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 372700 in akonadi "akonadi 1.1.2: new changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/372700 | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | and bug 373947 | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373947 in konversation "New upstream svn snapshot (1.1.75)/merge from Debian experimental" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373947 | 16:30 |
| Riddell | is that kde 4 konversation? | 16:30 |
| JontheEchidna | yep | 16:30 |
| JontheEchidna | meh, kdegraphics beta FTBFS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/168846/ | 16:31 |
| Riddell | libkdcraw/kdcraw.h: No such file or directory | 16:31 |
| Riddell | shouldn't that be part of kdegraphics | 16:31 |
| JontheEchidna | ...does this mean kdegraphics has a circular dependency on itself? | 16:32 |
| Riddell | well suggests its build system is broken | 16:32 |
| Riddell | look at the includes in the compile line -I. -I../../../thumbnailers/raw -I../../.. -I../.. -I../../../libs/libkexiv2 | 16:32 |
| Riddell | one of those should point to kdcraw | 16:32 |
| Lure | anybody else having problem with quassel notifications staying open fowever after upgrade to kde 4.2.3? | 16:47 |
| Sput | Lure: that is fixed in git (both 0.4 branch and master) | 16:51 |
| Sput | and will be in 0.4.2 due in a week or two | 16:51 |
| Lure | Sput: ok, I though kde 4.2.3 broke something in general | 16:51 |
| * Lure searches for ScottK's ppa ;-) | 16:51 | |
| Sput | Lure: no, they fixed something :) | 16:51 |
| Sput | Lure: yeah, ScottK has the fix. | 16:51 |
| Sput | Lure: knotify up to 4.2.3 ignored the persistance flag for notifications, so we didn't notice it being set until they fixed it :) | 16:52 |
| Lure | Sput: good one ;-) | 16:52 |
| * Lure restarts quassel to get fix | 16:54 | |
| Lure | Sput: much better now ;-) | 16:56 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: uploaded, thanks for your contribution to kubuntu | 16:57 |
| Sput | :) | 16:57 |
| Lure | Sput: any plans for "start minimized" option? | 16:57 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: thanks | 16:57 |
| * Lure would prefer to have it started in systray | 16:57 | |
| Sput | Lure: mmmh, I'd like to fix the "remember last state" thingy (which proves amazingly hard to do right since QMainWindow's restoreState() fails) | 16:58 |
| Sput | that should probably fix that issue | 16:58 |
| Lure | Sput: that would be even better | 16:58 |
| Sput | so if you quit quassel while it's minimized, it'll start up like that | 16:58 |
| Lure | good, just that it is on your radar screen | 16:58 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: were you working on kdegraphics merge? | 17:04 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: it's in bzr | 17:04 |
| * JontheEchidna going out for mother's day lunch | 17:06 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: super, uploading | 17:07 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: have a nice dinner | 17:07 |
| === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve | ||
| lex79 | Riddell: launchpad bug 373912 | 17:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373912 in kdeutils "kdeutils 4.2.2: new changes from Debian require merging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373912 | 17:40 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: ping | 17:40 |
| nixternal | are we merging in debian's pkg-kde-tools any time soon? I have a package where the .pot file gets eaten and never regenerated | 17:50 |
| Riddell | nixternal: it got merged ages ago. is this still ktorrent? | 17:56 |
| nixternal | kwave | 17:58 |
| nixternal | ktorrent doing the same thing? | 17:58 |
| nixternal | derr, I am a moron | 17:58 |
| nixternal | I grabbed the damn jaunty pkg-kde-tools pkg | 17:58 |
| Riddell | you'll need to add export KUBUNTU_NO_DELETE_POT=1 | 17:59 |
| Riddell | to debian/rules | 17:59 |
| nixternal | oh rock on, thanks for that! | 18:02 |
| * Mamarok wants her sound back in Jaunty | 18:06 | |
| Mamarok | *arghs* | 18:06 |
| Mamarok | and Strigi and a lot of other things that should work in kde 4.2.3 and don't btw :( | 18:07 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: your sound and strigi broke with 4.2.3? | 18:11 |
| Riddell | lex79: thanks, needs to wait for a few more depends to be uploaded before kdeutils does but with luck that'll happen today | 18:12 |
| lex79 | ok | 18:14 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: neither phonon nor strigi has changed in 4.2.3 | 18:14 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: no, my sound broke from Jaunty alpha 6, and strigi never started | 19:17 |
| dtchen | ..."sound broke"? | 19:17 |
| cbr | snapped in two | 19:18 |
| Mamarok | well, I sometimes have sound, most of the time not | 19:18 |
| Mamarok | I get phonon messages of sound switching to . on KDE start, sometimes on Amarok start, sometimes on track change | 19:19 |
| Mamarok | over all, I have had sound about 10% of the time since I switched to Jaunty | 19:19 |
| Mamarok | and Strigi never started, even with the workaround in the Nepomuk bug reported in Launchpad, strigi never starts, and Nepomux still uses redland, although sesame2 is installed since the beginning | 19:20 |
| dtchen | Mamarok: are you unlucky enough to have pulseaudio installed? | 19:21 |
| Mamarok | dtchen: yes, and I never installed it deliberately, it came in through god knows what, and now I can't get rid of it anymore | 19:23 |
| Mamarok | and I removed phonodevicesrc numerous times, it always comes back | 19:23 |
| dtchen | Mamarok: that was release-noted for 9.04; just use "sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio" | 19:24 |
| Mamarok | did so, it is still is visible in phonon | 19:24 |
| Mamarok | there is a remaining libpulse package I can't remove without removing all kde | 19:25 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: libpulse doesn't matter ... just be sure that "pulseaudio" is gone | 19:25 |
| Mamarok | it is, first thing I removed | 19:26 |
| Mamarok | then why is it still showing in phonon? | 19:26 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: "aptitude search pulseaudio" ... is the status of all those "p" ? | 19:27 |
| Mamarok | and why does phonon try to remove my soundcard every now and then? | 19:27 |
| Mamarok | a|wen: yes, of course, as I said, I purged it | 19:27 |
| Mamarok | very handy to help in Amarok development when you don't have sound most of the time | 19:28 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: and i guess you have tried to remove ".kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc" and start all over? | 19:28 |
| Mamarok | and we get "no sound" reports in Jaunty for Amarok all the time, not from other distros though... | 19:28 |
| Mamarok | something is strange somewhere, but where? | 19:29 |
| a|wen | my sound disappears every time hal is restarted which is pretty annoying ... but luckily not at strange other times anymore (did prior to jaunty release) | 19:30 |
| dtchen | well, the first place to start is by asking those reporters to use http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh | 19:30 |
| dtchen | it's a bash script, so please inform them that they need to invoke it explicitly with bash | 19:30 |
| jjesse | a|wen: i still ma using an older kernel for my sound to work | 19:30 |
| dtchen | we've cobbled just about everything one needs to know into that script | 19:30 |
| Mamarok | isn't that script installed already somewhere? | 19:31 |
| a|wen | jjesse: an intrepid kernel? | 19:31 |
| jjesse | a|wen: Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic | 19:32 |
| a|wen | i had trouble sometime in jaunty development as well ... it worked, but then disappeared sometimes; but it was fixed for me | 19:33 |
| Mamarok | dtchen: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=33518ebd4020d907539fef201dcae13d12f602a2 | 19:33 |
| Mamarok | dtchen: and of course it tells you that there is no soundcard | 19:35 |
| Mamarok | although lspci says otherwise | 19:35 |
| dtchen | huh? there's a recognised sound card | 19:35 |
| dtchen | see "!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA | 19:35 |
| dtchen | i'll check if you need any quirks, sec | 19:37 |
| dtchen | Mamarok: add your user to the audio group, log out and back in | 19:46 |
| dtchen | Mamarok: when you had pulseaudio installed, it used consolekit to grant @audio permissions to your user | 19:47 |
| dtchen | Mamarok: now that pulseaudio is no longer running, you need to ensure that your user is in @audio | 19:47 |
| dtchen | Mamarok: also, you can remove ~/.asoundrc | 19:47 |
| dtchen | (it's unnecessary) | 19:48 |
| Mamarok | ok, will do so | 19:48 |
| Mamarok | there is also a .asoundrc.asoundconf, I guess I don't need this neither? | 19:49 |
| dtchen | not really, but it's ~/.asoundrc that matters | 19:50 |
| Mamarok | ok, removed, will log out and report back, sec | 19:51 |
| Mamarok | if Jaunty actually let's me logout without crashing... | 19:51 |
| Mamarok | we will see... that never worked till now | 19:51 |
| === nellery_ is now known as nellery | ||
| JontheEchidna | Could I get a revu please? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=5718 | 19:53 |
| JontheEchidna | huh, no clue why kdeaccessibility FTBFS | 19:57 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: description is a bit negative for plasma-widget-makestatus, should focus on what it can do rather than what it doesn't | 19:59 |
| Riddell | packaging lovely otherwise | 20:00 |
| JontheEchidna | I was trying to find a way to be more verbose, but I suppose you're right | 20:00 |
| Mamarok | dtchen: works great! | 20:00 |
| Mamarok | mille grazie! | 20:00 |
| JontheEchidna | it's hard to be verbose with plasmoid package descriptions :( | 20:00 |
| JontheEchidna | " | 20:01 |
| JontheEchidna | It will work for all software projects that use CMake as their | 20:01 |
| JontheEchidna | build system | 20:01 |
| Mamarok | learned something :) | 20:02 |
| JontheEchidna | phonon trouble with kdemultimedia: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26538333/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.kdemultimedia_4%3A4.2.2-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:02 |
| nalioth | howdy. I have a fresh install of jaunty (from an Ubuntu iso image) and have apt-gotten kubuntu-desktop. anyone seen these errors? http://pastebin.ca/1418048 | 20:03 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: is Riddell enough or do you need another revu? ... if so, i can take a look in 15 mins | 20:03 |
| JontheEchidna | a|wen: wouldn't hurt I suppose | 20:05 |
| * a|wen likes "...patience..." being part of a build output | 20:05 | |
| Riddell | "cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/libkttsd_alsaplugin.so': No such file or directory" hmm, sound related issue on kdeaccessiblity | 20:05 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: ^^ this could be our chance to get dtchen into KDE packaging :) | 20:05 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 20:05 |
| JontheEchidna | I didn't add or remove that file from any of the .installs, so it might be a lower-down issue | 20:06 |
| Riddell | well I try and compile it in a bit | 20:06 |
| JontheEchidna | thx | 20:06 |
| JontheEchidna | the kdegraphics FTBFS was a stupid issue from me | 20:06 |
| Riddell | looking at kdemultimedia now, which needs building qt to look at phonon | 20:06 |
| JontheEchidna | (I accidentally merged the debian docpath for ksnapshot.install | 20:07 |
| Riddell | it happens, I fixed it | 20:07 |
| * JontheEchidna wonders if it'd be feasible to get kphotoalbum to its KDE4 version soon so that it doesn't depend on libkdcraw3 | 20:09 | |
| JontheEchidna | it's the last rdepend of libkdcraw3 | 20:09 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: plasma-widget-makestatus compiles and installs without problems | 20:09 |
| JontheEchidna | I should backport that plasmoid, it's neat | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | pretty please | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: pong | 20:13 |
| JontheEchidna | so how many revu's do you need when you are an MOTU? | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: did you have time to look at the audiocd bug? | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: one revu | 20:14 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: move the plugin to another package? | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | it's more of political value though, otherwise you will be boned if the package is crap ;-) | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: yes | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: and force upstream into fixing it properly | 20:14 |
| * JontheEchidna was a bit busy merging kdegraphics | 20:15 | |
| JontheEchidna | I'll get on that after I fix FTBFS | 20:15 |
| apachelogger | really, I think they just didn't refactor the design when they changed from using liblame to the lame binary | 20:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: okies :) | 20:15 |
| Mamarok | apachelogger: any news? | 20:16 |
| apachelogger | Mamarok: on? | 20:18 |
| Mamarok | on the dw packages... | 20:18 |
| apachelogger | just need to upload them to the ppa | 20:19 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: you need to file an LP bug for it ;P | 20:20 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: apart from that and the description it looks good | 20:24 |
| * a|wen testbuilds | 20:24 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh, yeah. I do need to file a bug... | 20:28 |
| a|wen | :) | 20:29 |
| a|wen | argh, crappy debian patching! | 20:31 |
| * a|wen just needed to get it off his chest | 20:32 | |
| Riddell | jings, will I ever get kdebase-runtime to compile | 20:39 |
| * a|wen tests getting "hello world" to compile ... cross fingers! | 20:40 | |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: oh, and a present from lintian: "binary-without-manpage usr/bin/makeinvoker" | 21:00 |
| nalioth | I have a fresh install of jaunty (from an Ubuntu iso image) and have apt-gotten kubuntu-desktop. anyone seen these errors? http://pastebin.ca/1418048 | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | no | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | nalioth: does .xsession-errors contain anything useful? | 21:13 |
| nalioth | apachelogger: none for any kde app | 21:16 |
| apachelogger | nalioth: my guess is that something with the installation of libqt went wrong | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | I only know that error in a version-incompability context | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | nalioth: maybe the google knows more :) | 21:18 |
| nalioth | i did a apt-get install --reinstall of several libqt components, esp the ones that contain that file it's erroring on | 21:19 |
| apachelogger | nalioth: try kdelibs5 | 21:22 |
| * jussi01 waves to nalioth - did you sleep well? | 21:22 | |
| apachelogger | a reinstall that is | 21:22 |
| nalioth | hi jussi01_ | 21:23 |
| nalioth | apachelogger: that did not fix it | 21:26 |
| apachelogger | no clue then | 21:27 |
| apachelogger | nalioth: do you use any 3rd party repositories? | 21:27 |
| nalioth | apachelogger: this is a fresh install, and i've not added any 3d party stuff yet (although i'm weird and usually only add deb-src repos and have apt-get compile it) | 21:28 |
| apachelogger | well, maybe that is the problem :) | 21:29 |
| nalioth | apachelogger: not having any 3d party repos is causing the problem? | 21:34 |
| nalioth | i don't consider universe and multiverse to be 3d party repos | 21:34 |
| apachelogger | nalioth: nah, the apt-get compiling ;-) | 21:39 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: but he hasnt done that yet on this install? | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | well | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | I am clueless anyway | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | that issue is way too weird | 21:40 |
| nalioth | no, not weird. | 21:45 |
| nalioth | i have missed my calling as "product tester", because if it can generate a weird error, it happens to me | 21:45 |
| nixternal | go back to your ppc! | 21:49 |
| jussi01 | nixternal: I told you to be nice!!! | 21:50 |
| nixternal | it is nalioth, we are never nice! | 21:50 |
| nixternal | brlcad build is causing smoke to rise from the keyboard....B E A S T ! ! ! | 21:51 |
| JontheEchidna | shouldn't update-notifier-kde at least recommend kpackagekit? | 21:59 |
| JontheEchidna | several gnomies are whining ;-) | 22:00 |
| Riddell | yes | 22:01 |
| Riddell | although i'm surprised they have update-notifier-kde installed | 22:01 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 22:02 |
| JontheEchidna | with KDE 4.3 persistent notifications work again, so we may want to look in to using Kpackagekit's notifications for 9.10 | 22:02 |
| JontheEchidna | update-notifier-kde is somewhat of a pig when it comes to checking for updates... but maybe that's update-notifier-common's problem ;-) | 22:03 |
| === fregl_ is now known as fregl | ||
| Riddell | qt has been linking for the last hour | 22:44 |
| Riddell | just linking one library | 22:44 |
| Riddell | something suspicious going on, even qt isn't that bad | 22:44 |
| claydoh | Riddell: will there be any new KDE packages for Intrepid? | 22:49 |
| Riddell | nope | 22:49 |
| claydoh | cool, thanks | 22:50 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: have you seen nalioth's issue? I was curious if you had seen it before/knew what could cause it | 22:56 |
| jussi01 | [23:12:56] <nalioth> I have a fresh install of jaunty (from an Ubuntu iso image) and have apt-gotten kubuntu-desktop. anyone seen these errors? http://pastebin.ca/1418048 | 22:57 |
| Riddell | jussi01: no I don't think I have | 23:01 |
| Riddell | well, we do have a patch about loading qt localisation stuff for packages compiled on qt 4.4 and running qt 4.5 | 23:02 |
| Riddell | maybe he's running something compiled with qt 4.4 | 23:02 |
| nalioth | Riddell: this is as delivered via apt-get on a new install | 23:02 |
| jussi01 | Riddell: but how can that be - its a clean install? | 23:03 |
| Riddell | couldn't say | 23:04 |
| Riddell | it shouldn't be different from a standalone kubuntu-desktop install | 23:04 |
| nalioth | i am available for any testing | 23:05 |
| Riddell | does it cause any problems? | 23:05 |
| nalioth | other than none of those programs start? | 23:07 |
| nalioth | i've not sat and checked every kde program for this, but those 3 i use regularly | 23:07 |
| dtchen | just for amusement, has strace -f helped? | 23:08 |
| nalioth | i am a t-da about this stuff. can you elaborate? | 23:09 |
| dtchen | strace -f theapp | 23:10 |
| dtchen | you may wish to use strace -f -o somelogfile theapp | 23:10 |
| nalioth | yeah, the > isn't working :( | 23:13 |
| dtchen | yeah, strace requires the -o | 23:14 |
| nalioth | http://pastebin.ca/1418697 dtchen | 23:16 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: used whatever is currently in bzr | 23:48 |
| dtchen | nalioth: sorry, reading now | 23:49 |
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