| ror | hi, I'm trying to follow the instructions on editing PGP keys | 01:19 |
|---|---|---|
| ror | but it's failing at the send-key step saying it doesn't know of any keyservers | 01:19 |
| ror | the page doesn't provide one to send it to though | 01:19 |
| ror | the instructions on launchpad.net/~username/+editphpkeys | 01:20 |
| ror | launchpad.net/~username/+editpgpkeys rather :) | 01:20 |
| wgrant | ror: Try '--keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com', or see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey | 01:25 |
| ror | thanks | 01:26 |
| ror | yay, worked great thanks | 01:27 |
| ror | grrr now it's trying to generate a sig using my old email address :( | 01:42 |
| ror | I've changed the "default key" in ubuntu's settings but that's not helped and I can't work out from the man page how to pick the right one! | 01:42 |
| wgrant | ror: 'it'? | 01:47 |
| ror | I mean gpg --clearsign foo is trying to use my old email address; there's a gpg --default-key option but I can't get my head around that; I'll wander over to #pgp :) | 01:54 |
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| blacknred0 | i got the following error trying to upload my package "Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused" | 02:59 |
| blacknred0 | any thoughts? | 02:59 |
| vadi2 | launchpad is refusing my ppa upload... related to the bug? | 03:02 |
| blacknred0 | vadi2, i just had the same problem | 03:02 |
| blacknred0 | did you get an [Errno 111]? | 03:03 |
| vadi2 | yeah. | 03:03 |
| lifeless | whats the email address for send merge requests to ? | 03:04 |
| lifeless | https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review#Proposing%20a%20merge doesn't seem to list it.. | 03:04 |
| blacknred0 | vadi2, same error that i got | 03:05 |
| ovnicraft | hi folks where is the core of launchpad to download? i tried with lauchpad-project but i see many branchs | 03:06 |
| vadi2 | pretty sure "your own launchpad" isn't an option yet | 03:07 |
| lifeless | ovnicraft: the lp source code hasn't been released yet. Its coming soon | 03:08 |
| ovnicraft | vadi2, so what more tools i can use, i get my own loggerhead :) | 03:08 |
| vadi2 | you can get your own loggerhead, yeah | 03:09 |
| lifeless | ovnicraft: you could just use launchpad :) | 03:09 |
| * ovnicraft is lp user :) | 03:10 | |
| wgrant | Indeed, germanium's poppy seems to be broken, so PPA uploads are impossible. | 03:11 |
| wgrant | lifeless: merge@code.launchpad.net is the address, but I don't remember how I discovered that. | 03:12 |
| lifeless | wgrant: right | 03:12 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I've filed a bug ;) | 03:12 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I suppose there isn't much chance of finding a LOSA for a PPA upload issue on a weekend, is there? | 03:13 |
| lifeless | someone should be getting pages | 03:14 |
| lifeless | how can you tell its germanium | 03:14 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Because germanium is ppa.launchpad.net, AFAIK. | 03:15 |
| lifeless | wgrant: so you're speculating ? :) | 03:15 |
| wgrant | lifeless: No, the PTR tells me I'm right. | 03:15 |
| lifeless | no, I mean about the cause | 03:16 |
| lifeless | that its poppy specifically | 03:16 |
| lifeless | anyhow, we can escalate | 03:16 |
| wgrant | poppy is the FTP server, and it has a habit of dieing unexpectedly. | 03:16 |
| lifeless | how long has it been down | 03:16 |
| wgrant | And I don't have much faith in the alerts, unless things have changed recently. | 03:16 |
| lifeless | you gotta have faith, faith, faith | 03:17 |
| wgrant | I only noticed it 10 minutes ago, but the earliest report in here is nearly 20 minutes ago. | 03:17 |
| blacknred0 | ok... hopefully will be up soon | 03:17 |
| lifeless | so you're getting errors connecting to ftp? | 03:17 |
| blacknred0 | i do | 03:17 |
| lifeless | ok | 03:18 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Yes, ppa.launchpad.net:21 is refusing connections. | 03:18 |
| blacknred0 | error 111, connection refuse | 03:18 |
| lifeless | I've sent a pst | 03:18 |
| lifeless | I'll look up the escalation details in 10 or 15; it is sunday after all and I need lunch | 03:19 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Thanks. | 03:19 |
| blacknred0 | lifeless, thnx. | 03:20 |
| lifeless | wgrant: still down? | 03:34 |
| blacknred0 | lifeless, yeap, still down. | 03:37 |
| lifeless | blacknred0: please try now | 03:41 |
| blacknred0 | lifeless, ;) now it worked :) | 03:42 |
| blacknred0 | thnx | 03:42 |
| lifeless | thanks spm | 03:42 |
| spm | lifeless: np | 03:42 |
| spm | yay. and codebounce is showing red for 3 mins as well. | 03:43 |
| wgrant | Thanks spm, lifeless. | 03:48 |
| sianis | hi | 07:04 |
| sianis | is there a rosetta developer here? | 07:04 |
| Kmos | OOPS-1226E348 | 08:39 |
| ubottu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1226E348 | 08:39 |
| Kmos | when translating with edge disabled | 08:39 |
| box02 | Hi all | 08:39 |
| box02 | can I upload my ppa for Debian? | 08:40 |
| box02 | instead of Ubuntu | 08:40 |
| Kmos | box02: yes | 08:40 |
| Kmos | launchpad != ubuntu | 08:40 |
| box02 | Kmos: how, could you please tell me? | 08:40 |
| LarstiQ | box02: except for PPA there aren't Debian suites. | 08:41 |
| Kmos | but he can test the package to see if it will work in debian :) | 08:42 |
| LarstiQ | sure, but that's not the same | 08:42 |
| box02 | LarstiQ; so, they would be only for Ubuntu. | 08:42 |
| LarstiQ | box02: not exactly | 08:42 |
| box02 | aha | 08:42 |
| LarstiQ | box02: the thing you are missing is a complete mirror of Debian, which means you can't use build-dependencies as they are in Debian | 08:43 |
| box02 | so I shouldn't upload for Debian, isn't it? | 08:43 |
| Kmos | box02: better to configure an debian pbuilder in your machine | 08:43 |
| LarstiQ | box02: but if you make a package that works on Ubuntu and Debian, then you could tell your Debian users to use that Ubuntu package | 08:43 |
| box02 | LarstiQ: aha | 08:43 |
| LarstiQ | box02: there certainly is a desire to make Debian more of a first-class citizen | 08:43 |
| box02 | LarstiQ: aha | 08:44 |
| box02 | thank you so much Kmos and LarstiQ :) | 08:44 |
| Kmos | np | 08:44 |
| Kmos | translations should be broken is some way | 08:45 |
| Kmos | OOPS-1226A421 | 08:45 |
| ubottu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1226A421 | 08:45 |
| box02 | and also my package is not authenticated when I installed from synaptic package manager, Is that normal? | 08:46 |
| box02 | although I imported the repository key to synaptic keyring. | 08:47 |
| box02 | sorry for my english | 08:48 |
| LarstiQ | your english is understandable, don't worry. | 08:48 |
| box02 | thanks :) | 08:48 |
| LarstiQ | box02: I haven't kept track of the package signing, I thought all PPAs were supposed to sign new packages nowadays. | 08:49 |
| LarstiQ | box02: does it say it is signed but you don't have the key, or it isn't signed? | 08:49 |
| box02 | I mean I uploaded my ppa to launchpad with my signature to our team ppa | 08:50 |
| box02 | the package was accepted. | 08:50 |
| LarstiQ | box02: ah, the binaries that ppa build get signed with a key that is only in Launchpad, not the same key you signed your source upload with. | 08:50 |
| LarstiQ | box02: it would be scary if they did, since Launchpad is not supposed to have your secret key. | 08:51 |
| LarstiQ | box02: is that what you were asking? | 08:51 |
| box02 | yeah, it is. | 08:52 |
| box02 | but I signed my package with my email and launchpad ID key | 08:52 |
| box02 | but my team ppa repository key is another one. | 08:53 |
| * LarstiQ nods | 08:53 | |
| Kmos | box02: you should use your PPA key, because Launchpad don't know your private key | 08:55 |
| Kmos | better.. it knows... it just can't use the secret key, only the public one | 08:55 |
| * LarstiQ blinks | 08:55 | |
| LarstiQ | Kmos: excuse me? | 08:55 |
| Kmos | LarstiQ: hmmm.. maybe wrong | 08:56 |
| LarstiQ | you use your own key to sign package uploads with, it is the only key you have that Launchpad can identify you with (assuming you've told it it is yours) | 08:56 |
| box02 | yes | 08:57 |
| box02 | I did it with my key as you said | 08:57 |
| LarstiQ | box02: then you did good :) | 08:57 |
| box02 | :) | 08:57 |
| box02 | yes I did good and uploading is also accepted. | 08:58 |
| box02 | but why it is un-authenticate in synaptic package manager? | 08:58 |
| box02 | let's say .. like when I install skype before | 08:59 |
| Kmos | you've followed these instructions? "This repository is signed with __KEY_HERE__ OpenPGP key. Follow these instructions for installing packages from this PPA." | 09:00 |
| box02 | some package like skype , it shows me un-authenticate. | 09:00 |
| box02 | Kmos: so this mean, uploading with my key .. but installing with PPA repository key, right? | 09:01 |
| LarstiQ | box02: yes | 09:01 |
| LarstiQ | box02: is it a package you've uploaded a long time ago, or recently? | 09:01 |
| Kmos | box02: right | 09:01 |
| box02 | LarstiQ + Kmos: aha | 09:01 |
| box02 | I uploaded it recently | 09:02 |
| LarstiQ | box02: if recently, I don't know what is going on, and would file a question on launchpad (https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion) | 09:02 |
| Kmos | box02: because you upload with your public key. and repository has another key. | 09:02 |
| box02 | yes. | 09:03 |
| LarstiQ | Kmos: afaik unauthenticated happens when it isn't signed at all | 09:03 |
| LarstiQ | which is not what I'd expect | 09:03 |
| LarstiQ | box02: which package/ppa is this? | 09:03 |
| box02 | I can show you my package | 09:03 |
| box02 | https://launchpad.net/~zawgyi-kb/+archive/ppa | 09:03 |
| box02 | there is | 09:04 |
| box02 | you can see | 09:04 |
| box02 | my key and the ppa repo key are not the same | 09:04 |
| Kmos | LarstiQ: maybe some problem with soyuz | 09:05 |
| Kmos | the package is signed, no doubt | 09:05 |
| box02 | I uploaded my package not to my PPA, but to my team PPA | 09:06 |
| box02 | yes Kmos | 09:06 |
| LarstiQ | box02: I'd ask the Launchpad people, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion | 09:09 |
| * LarstiQ can't see what is going on | 09:09 | |
| Kmos | box02: so isn't the repository you mentioned | 09:09 |
| box02 | LarstiQ: yes I will ask them. | 09:10 |
| box02 | Kmos: I mean ,, my public key ID is 00F020A6, | 09:11 |
| box02 | the ID key 1024R/55E16302 is to install the package | 09:12 |
| box02 | is there something wrong? | 09:12 |
| box02 | should be the same? | 09:13 |
| Kmos | box02: no.. your key is only yours, the launchpad PPA (personal or team), each one has a different key | 09:13 |
| Kmos | you need to import your team ppa key to your system. | 09:14 |
| LarstiQ | Kmos: I did that: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 55E16302 | 09:14 |
| box02 | Kmos: yes, I import it to my system ( my gpa and also my synaptic package manager ) | 09:15 |
| LarstiQ | Kmos: but still apt-get complained it couldn't authenticate it | 09:15 |
| wgrant | LarstiQ: Did you apt-get update afterwards? | 09:15 |
| LarstiQ | wgrant: ooh, good point | 09:15 |
| wgrant | LarstiQ: the signatures are only checked at update-time; Release.gpg isn't stored locally AFAIK. | 09:15 |
| LarstiQ | wgrant: now I did, still unauthenticated | 09:15 |
| wgrant | LarstiQ: Alright, let's see what I can discover. | 09:16 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 09:16 |
| wgrant | That PPA isn't signed. | 09:16 |
| box02 | yes, what should I do for it? | 09:17 |
| wgrant | And I only know of one way that can happen - the latest publishing happened before the key was generated. | 09:17 |
| wgrant | So, if you delete and restore (using the 'Copy packages' feature), it will be signed. | 09:17 |
| wgrant | (the PPA key is generated by a separate cron job, so PPAs don't actually have keys initially) | 09:18 |
| LarstiQ | can that happen when, as box02 said, the package was recently uploaded? | 09:18 |
| LarstiQ | ah ok | 09:18 |
| wgrant | If it was uploaded moments after the PPA was created, it's quite possible. | 09:18 |
| box02 | so I copy it to another ppa and delete,, paste back to the old place, isn't it? | 09:18 |
| wgrant | box02: You can just delete it, and copy the deleted package back into your archive. No need to copy it elsewhere first; you can copy deleted sources. | 09:18 |
| wgrant | Bonus points for doing it in the next 50 seconds. | 09:19 |
| wgrant | (if you do, it will be signed in just a couple of minutes) | 09:19 |
| box02 | wowwwwwwwwwwwww | 09:19 |
| box02 | I will do it :) :D | 09:19 |
| box02 | this could be :) | 09:20 |
| box02 | thank you so much you all :) | 09:20 |
| box02 | I appreciate you all very much :) | 09:20 |
| wgrant | I suspect it's a bug that it let it publish before the key existed, though. | 09:20 |
| box02 | yes, | 09:20 |
| box02 | I could be exactly | 09:20 |
| box02 | thanks a lot wgrant. :) | 09:21 |
| wgrant | box02: np | 09:21 |
| box02 | I will do it :) | 09:21 |
| bencrisford | I can't get on lists.launchpad.net. Is that just me or can you guys not do it either? | 09:37 |
| bencrisford | It says the security certificate expired yesterday | 09:37 |
| bencrisford | im using epiphany | 09:37 |
| wgrant | bencrisford: There's a bug filed; apparently they changed over the main servers, but missed a couple. | 09:39 |
| wgrant | bencrisford_: There's a bug filed; apparently they changed over the main servers, but missed a couple. | 09:40 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: how do you find out about all this stuff? | 09:41 |
| mwhudson | i guess you actually read bugmail, unlike me | 09:41 |
| mwhudson | ... | 09:41 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: I read bugmail. | 09:41 |
| wgrant | private-ppa and lists at least were missed. | 09:42 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: for all of launchpad-project? | 09:42 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: rosetta and various other bits get hidden away, but I do read most of it. It doesn't take long, means I know what's going on, and can complain early if people are doing something questionable. | 09:44 |
| mwhudson | i think party of my problem is thunderbird, actually | 09:44 |
| mwhudson | (and imapssl to london) | 09:44 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: I ditched Thunderbird for Evolution a few months ago. IMAP with TLS to the US, here, and it's quite usable. | 09:45 |
| wgrant | Evolution has improved a lot over the past 18 months or so. | 09:46 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: interesting | 09:49 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Plus Evolution doesn't look awful. | 09:50 |
| mwhudson | oh look thunderbird is grey and non-responive | 09:53 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Mozilla products love to do that :( | 09:53 |
| mwhudson | oh, other detail: i have no idea what my work email password is :) | 09:53 |
| wgrant | Heh. | 09:54 |
| mwhudson | oh tbird can tell me | 09:56 |
| * mwhudson thinks about the relative size of all his mail and his monthly download limit | 10:07 | |
| savvas | mwhudson: try the ssss package :) | 10:09 |
| mwhudson | savvas: ? | 10:09 |
| savvas | http://point-at-infinity.org/ssss/demo.html | 10:10 |
| savvas | you split your passwords in 10 different strings | 10:10 |
| savvas | and if you have say 7 of them (threshold) you get to see it :P | 10:10 |
| mwhudson | hmm | 10:11 |
| box02 | Hi Hi | 10:12 |
| savvas | (ssss is binary in terminal btw) | 10:12 |
| wgrant | box02: Did it work? | 10:12 |
| box02 | wowwwwwww | 10:12 |
| box02 | it is fantastic :D | 10:13 |
| box02 | it works perfectly :D | 10:13 |
| box02 | Now I got Authenticated :D | 10:13 |
| wgrant | box02: Excellent. | 10:13 |
| box02 | thank you so much indeed wgrant !! :) | 10:13 |
| lifeless | wgrant: you haven't looked at evo's code, obviously. | 10:13 |
| box02 | You're geek !! :) | 10:14 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I remember you complaining while hacking it at UDS... | 10:14 |
| lifeless | wgrant: yes :) | 10:14 |
| box02 | I'm happy now. | 10:14 |
| wgrant | box02: Bug #374395 | 10:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374395 in soyuz "New PPAs can be published unsigned" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374395 | 10:14 |
| box02 | wgrant: aha | 10:15 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I really should overhaul the damn thing, wouldn't be that hard : write good nonblocking code from the start | 10:15 |
| box02 | how I can check? | 10:15 |
| wgrant | lifeless: But Evo works better than TB. And I don't imagine TB's code is pretty either. | 10:15 |
| wgrant | box02: Check what? | 10:15 |
| lifeless | wgrant: BUT, I know that trap. been down it before (VCS's) | 10:15 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Heh. | 10:15 |
| box02 | wgrant: that bug? | 10:15 |
| wgrant | box02: What do you mean by 'check'? | 10:15 |
| box02 | wgrant: fix? | 10:16 |
| box02 | ;) | 10:16 |
| mwhudson | wgrant, lifeless: it's a mua, of course almost everything about it is terrible | 10:16 |
| box02 | wgrant: I would like to know where I see that bug report? | 10:16 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: yes, of course. | 10:17 |
| wgrant | box02: See the link that ubottu posted a second later. | 10:17 |
| lifeless | mind you I have enough hobby projects for now. | 10:17 |
| lifeless | and the next 1000 years or so | 10:17 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: True, true. | 10:17 |
| box02 | wgrant: aha | 10:17 |
| lifeless | back to libvfs I go | 10:17 |
| lifeless | nearly at the point of having all the core idioms sorted out | 10:17 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: i'm not sure that anything involving a hobby project can significantly affect the mua landscape :/ | 10:18 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: there's a theory that good libraries can make apps better | 10:18 |
| mwhudson | true | 10:18 |
| lifeless | theres another theory that both thunderbird and evo are huge piles of NIH | 10:18 |
| wgrant | lifeless: What did they reinvent? | 10:19 |
| lifeless | wgrant: smtp, pop3, imap4, mail folder indexing, mail folder caching, io operation cancelling | 10:19 |
| lifeless | wgrant: off the top of my head and without looking for other things | 10:20 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Shh. | 10:20 |
| box02 | wgrant: I see that bug report now. | 10:20 |
| wgrant | Thanks for the quick triage on that, cprov. | 10:21 |
| box02 | wgrant: I have to write something there? | 10:21 |
| lifeless | wgrant: for instance. 'camel'. | 10:21 |
| cprov | wgrant: thank you for filing the bug and helping box02. | 10:21 |
| wgrant | box02: No, I was just pointing it out to you. | 10:21 |
| wgrant | cprov: np | 10:21 |
| box02 | wgrant: thanks wgrant for your help | 10:21 |
| lifeless | wgrant: for instance. libsmtp. | 10:22 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I've heard of that, but I don't want to go into the inner workings of my least-hated mail client, as that would mean finding out just how bad it is... | 10:22 |
| lifeless | apt-get install libsmtp | 10:22 |
| lifeless | -> fail | 10:22 |
| lifeless | perl at least has a library | 10:22 |
| wgrant | box02: np | 10:23 |
| box02 | wgrant: :-) | 10:23 |
| lifeless | and just continuing to grovel, I find libetpan13. Totally unobvious name | 10:23 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I'm not sure it's awfully easy to write a universally useful high-level C networking library. | 10:23 |
| lifeless | wgrant: layers are good | 10:24 |
| box02 | ok well, bye for now all, see you. Have a nice day! | 10:24 |
| wgrant | box02: See you. | 10:24 |
| box02 | bye wgrant, see you. | 10:24 |
| lifeless | also 'do one thing well'. etpan does smtp + pop3 + nntp + imap + mbox/mh/maildir + MIME | 10:24 |
| wgrant | Right, that doesn't seem smart. | 10:24 |
| lifeless | totally conflated with lots of stuff | 10:24 |
| wgrant | SMTP + POP3 + IMAP, perhaps. | 10:25 |
| lifeless | nooo | 10:25 |
| lifeless | SMTP. | 10:25 |
| lifeless | do it well, do it right. | 10:25 |
| lifeless | if there is common code for pop3, have two libraries. I hear libraries can depend. | 10:25 |
| wgrant | Few do. | 10:26 |
| wgrant | cprov: For the PPA build status indicator, is the publishing data only required to show when the binaries are awaiting publishing? | 10:41 |
| cprov | wgrant: yes | 10:42 |
| cprov | wgrant: one of the built-in status of the PPA build-status icon. | 10:42 |
| wgrant | cprov: Hrm. | 10:43 |
| cprov | wgrant: do you think we should continue to present rejected uploaded in that list ? | 10:44 |
| wgrant | I can see why that join would be expensive. | 10:44 |
| wgrant | cprov: I don't think there's any point in showing them, no. | 10:44 |
| wgrant | cprov: Is it showing all SPRs? | 10:44 |
| cprov | wgrant: yes, in a very rudimentary/broken selection approach. | 10:45 |
| wgrant | cprov: That explains things. | 10:45 |
| wgrant | Anyway, I don't think rejected uploads should be shown, because they don't really exist. | 10:45 |
| cprov | wgrant: exactly, they are not something that should concern users visiting that specific page | 10:46 |
| wgrant | cprov: And I suppose that join wouldn't be too expensive. | 10:48 |
| lifeless | cprov: what do you think of showing builder status on the build record page, rather than having to click through? | 10:48 |
| wgrant | Hmmm, interesting confusion by vila in bug #289148. It appears to not be obvious enough that the bit in the signature is actually the description of the bug. | 10:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 289148 in launchpad-registry "Can't figure out how to upload ssh keys" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/289148 | 10:49 |
| cprov | wgrant: it's manageable in the PPA pages, it should be ok on Person:+packages too. | 10:49 |
| wgrant | cprov: Particularly as +packages only shows 90 SPRs at most. | 10:50 |
| cprov | lifeless: it is presented, isn't it ? as text, not a fancy icon | 10:50 |
| lifeless | cprov: I mean the log | 10:50 |
| wgrant | lifeless: You mean the build log tail> | 10:50 |
| wgrant | Right. | 10:50 |
| wgrant | I've always thought that would make sense. | 10:50 |
| lifeless | cprov: if its building, the status is useless without looking at the log :) | 10:50 |
| lifeless | well useless is harsh | 10:51 |
| wgrant | And be particularly nice if it actually stored the build log progressively, and did AJAX updates like the OpenSUSE Build Service. | 10:51 |
| lifeless | I mean, it would be much nicer not to have to click to see that its up to <wherever> in the build | 10:51 |
| cprov | lifeless: oh, misread your comment. Showing the buildlog tail on 'building' build pages ... Yes, good idea. | 10:51 |
| cprov | lifeless: otherwise you always have to go to the builder page. | 10:52 |
| cprov | wgrant: uhm, yes, that's cool, but megs of text in a postgres row is bad. | 10:53 |
| wgrant | cprov: That's true, and I suppose librarian doesn't really fit. | 10:54 |
| cprov | wgrant: yes, but we can 'find a way' ... it's not rocket-science, afterall. | 10:55 |
| * wgrant -> dinner | 10:57 | |
| cprov | lifeless: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/194262 | 11:01 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 194262 in soyuz "Page for build that hasn't finished is cryptic about its status" [Medium,Triaged] | 11:01 |
| lifeless | cprov: ah, just dup my new bug then | 11:06 |
| lifeless | cprov: surely its just the current tail, but use ajax to refresh | 11:07 |
| lifeless | could optimise by also storing a 'byte offset' counter in the db; if the offset overlaps with what the client alrady has only send some of the tail snapshot | 11:07 |
| lifeless | otherwise send it all | 11:07 |
| cprov | lifeless: right, please comment that in the bug :) | 11:08 |
| lifeless | which one? | 11:09 |
| lifeless | cprov: which bug should I put that comment in | 11:17 |
| cprov | lifeless: add that to the same bug (194262) | 11:18 |
| lifeless | cprov: bug 374412 - should I dup that with 194262? | 12:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374412 in soyuz "show build tail on build record pages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374412 | 12:06 |
| cprov | lifeless: yes, sure. | 12:07 |
| lifeless | I filed that before you looked up the other :) | 12:07 |
| cprov | lifeless: right, the old one has other features that will be nice to have. | 12:09 |
| lifeless | shiny new dup window | 12:11 |
| LarstiQ | wgrant: thanks about the ppa key cronjob btw, I learned something :) | 12:16 |
| wgrant | LarstiQ: The bug has a more informative answer from cprov; did you see it? | 12:22 |
| LarstiQ | wgrant: no, I'll go read some backlog | 12:23 |
| wgrant | Bug #374395 | 12:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374395 in soyuz "New PPAs can be published unsigned" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374395 | 12:23 |
| wgrant | LarstiQ: ^^ | 12:23 |
| goshawk | hi, where is it supposed to add arm support to ppa? | 12:25 |
| LarstiQ | wgrant: thanks | 12:27 |
| wgrant | goshawk: I believe an architecture can only be supported for PPA building if it is supported for virtualisation using Xen. I think there's an ongoing project to port Xen to ARM, but it's not there yet. | 12:32 |
| goshawk | wgrant: Opensuse/Opensource build system does it pretty good, can't launchpad use the same technology | 12:32 |
| goshawk | ? | 12:33 |
| goshawk | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2525419053.html | 12:35 |
| wgrant | Ah, finally found something useful. | 12:38 |
| wgrant | It looks like they're using qemu; that's workable, but probably very slow. | 12:38 |
| wgrant | http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/11/18/arm-support-for-opensuse-buildservice-and-opensuse/ | 12:38 |
| wgrant | cprov: Have you any existing armel PPA plans? | 12:39 |
| cprov | wgrant: no concrete plans yet, but I'm expecting some pressure on it during UDS | 12:40 |
| wgrant | cprov: That's what I suspected. | 12:41 |
| cprov | wgrant: qemu is an alternative, but I'm not sure we can use it in the same way we do for xen-machines | 12:41 |
| goshawk | well, i'm working with OBS | 12:42 |
| goshawk | and it's very fast | 12:42 |
| goshawk | i think that it uses kvm | 12:42 |
| wgrant | cprov: How would it be different? | 12:42 |
| wgrant | KVM cannot work across architectures (except i386/amd64) | 12:42 |
| goshawk | and i've to build packages in ppa and then import in OBS for armv5 | 12:43 |
| cprov | wgrant: qemu would run within our xen-instance to guarantee security | 12:43 |
| cprov | s/security/isolation | 12:44 |
| wgrant | cprov: I suppose that's a good idea. But that only makes it a little bit different. | 12:44 |
| cprov | wgrant: right, maybe that's not much ... | 12:45 |
| wgrant | If only Soyuz was to be open source like OBS... | 12:48 |
| * cprov escapes for lunch ... | 12:52 | |
| wgrant | cprov: What are you doing in here on a weekend, anyway? | 12:54 |
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| lifeless | gnight | 14:40 |
| wgrant | Night lifeless. | 14:42 |
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| MiserySalin | could an admin review our .pot template? https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gmpc/trunk/+imports | 15:43 |
| gnomefreak | ANy launchpad site problems known? for some reason i click on Save Changes on bug report and it doesnt change. lower left corner of browser says done and doesnt change as well. | 16:33 |
| gnomefreak | it looks as if its only bug pages | 16:52 |
| gnomefreak | thats odd it works in seamonkey but not firefox | 16:55 |
| RachedTN | Hello, Could anyone help me with this : https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/70669 , thanks :) | 17:13 |
| mneptok | RachedTN: how active is the project? it could be moved, but that will require a Launchpad admin. if the project doesn't have a lot of data yet, you could just create a new project with the correct name and close the other. | 17:22 |
| RachedTN | mneptok: the project is very avtive and it contains a lot of data. | 17:24 |
| mneptok | RachedTN: understood. i guess you need a Launchpad admin. | 17:26 |
| RachedTN | mneptok: yes :) | 17:26 |
| * mneptok is not one. sorry. | 17:26 | |
| RachedTN | thanks for the answer :) , I will wait :) | 17:27 |
| mneptok | hamdulillah | 17:28 |
| cprov | wgrant: I was intimidated by your last comment :) | 17:37 |
| rockstar | RachedTN, there usually isn't someone around on the weekends to help you rename projects, but come Monday, this will probably get dealt with. | 17:39 |
| RachedTN | rockstar: ok, thnks | 17:39 |
| RachedTN | and keep the good works guys :) | 17:39 |
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| AdamDH | hi all, I have uploaded packages to my PPA but I have not had any emails yet, is it just been slow? | 19:28 |
| maxb | AdamDH: upload processing takes place every 5 minutes, allow time for the email to reach you after that, considering how slow/fast your email provider is at getting incoming email to your inbox | 19:48 |
| maxb | If you still don't have anything, be very certain that the .changes file was correctly signed with a key known to launchpad - if it isn't, you won't get any feedback at all. | 19:49 |
| AdamDH | thanks maxb I will check | 19:51 |
| AdamDH | thanks again maxb looks like my key was wrong | 20:20 |
| AdamDH | I am a little confused I am trying to upload hal-applesmc - 0.14-0ubuntu1~mactel-support1~jaunty1 hal-applesmc - 0.14-0ubuntu1~mactel-support1~intrepid1 but the intrepid one keeps getting rejected with is already accepted in ubuntu/intrepid and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution. Any ideas why? | 20:51 |
| maxb | AdamDH: Because you uploaded that version in March ? | 21:21 |
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| loic-m | What's the dput option to tell it not to upload the orig.tar.gz (since the orig.tar.gz is the same as the one in karmic repositories)? | 21:54 |
| loic-m | (I've read the man page and googled to no avail) | 21:54 |
| maxb | loic-m: It's not actually a dput option. You make this decision at the time of building the .changes file | 21:55 |
| loic-m | maxb: thanks. So it's just an option of debuild? | 21:56 |
| maxb | -sd I think | 21:56 |
| artfwo | -sa it is | 21:56 |
| maxb | or you can edit the .changes manually and re-sign it | 21:56 |
| maxb | artfwo: No, -sa is the opposite | 21:57 |
| loic-m | I use debuild -S -sa and it upload the archive, so not -sa at least | 21:57 |
| artfwo | oops, misread it sorry :) | 21:57 |
| loic-m | maxb: thanls a lot | 21:57 |
| loic-m | funny the debuild man page doesn't talk about -sa or -sd options... | 22:00 |
| maxb | loic-m: That's because debuild is just a wrapper around dpkg-buildpackage | 22:00 |
| loic-m | maxb: thanks. i'll read that man page then | 22:01 |
| loic-m | you were right about -sd | 22:02 |
| lifeless | loic-m: just make sure you have foo_version.orig.tar.gz | 22:03 |
| lifeless | and dpkg-source will generate a diff | 22:03 |
| loic-m | yes, it's been working ok now | 22:04 |
| loic-m | I'm just testing some rdepends in a ppa so it's straightforward | 22:05 |
| maxb | Hmm, PPA's aren't ideal for that sort of testing... too much waiting! Just do it locally :-) | 22:13 |
| loic-m | Can't test all arch locally ;) and my bw is limited. Builds are actually not bad tonight | 22:37 |
| savvas | bug 374627 | 22:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374627 in launchpad "[edge] doesn't list the sponsors teams in bug report sidebar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374627 | 22:41 |
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| wgrant | cprov: Good. | 23:36 |
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