| penguin42 | dtchen: I triggered it on the proposed kernel on a host with just 3 totem-xine's running | 00:03 |
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| penguin42 | dtchen: And that's with the resample trivial and default-fragment-size-msec = 5 | 00:04 |
| dtchen | penguin42: ok. | 00:05 |
| dtchen | i have no love for realtek or sigmatel/idt | 00:05 |
| penguin42 | anything else you want me to try while I'm here | 00:06 |
| dtchen | not unless you can compile gst-plugins-good from git head | 00:06 |
| penguin42 | sure - point me at the sources | 00:06 |
| penguin42 | although given xine's triggering it do you think that's relavent? | 00:07 |
| * maco hides her sigmatel and realtek based laptops from dtchen in case he gets the mallet | 00:07 | |
| dtchen | sure | 00:08 |
| dtchen | it's a linux bug, but i have no idea [yet] why none of the conexants seem to be dropping | 00:08 |
| dtchen | i suppose i can ask for the changes to be reverted, but we're going to break some percentage of people | 00:09 |
| penguin42 | dtchen: What's the symptoms they see? | 00:09 |
| dtchen | what you're seeing | 00:10 |
| penguin42 | oh I see so we have a choice in breaking one or the other of us? | 00:10 |
| dtchen | of course, that's always how it works | 00:10 |
| penguin42 | dtchen: The git from here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good ? | 00:17 |
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| dtchen | penguin42: yes, but hold off on that | 00:19 |
| penguin42 | oh, I've got it cloning anyway | 00:19 |
| penguin42 | dtchen: My xine config says it's set for esd - although pactl list seems to show ALSA plugin | 00:23 |
| penguin42 | dtchen: I'm going to bed in a few minutes, if there are any tests you can think of you want me to try just mail me at ubuntu@treblig.org - although I very rarely do stuff during the week so it's a lot easier if I get something tomorrow if you want a quick answer | 00:37 |
| bcurtiswx | hey all, anyone know why jaunty wouldn't know how to handle media from a CD drive and halt the system | 00:47 |
| bcurtiswx | am i missing a library? | 00:48 |
| penguin42 | ? | 00:48 |
| penguin42 | what happens when you halt? | 00:48 |
| bcurtiswx | the system doesn't work | 00:48 |
| bcurtiswx | i move mouse to no avail | 00:48 |
| ror | bcurtiswx: does this happen with all discs? (could be a bad disc) | 00:48 |
| bcurtiswx | i can open and close my cd drive | 00:48 |
| bcurtiswx | ror: all disks | 00:49 |
| bcurtiswx | discs* | 00:49 |
| ror | and your system is fine up until the point where you put in a CD? | 00:49 |
| bcurtiswx | yup | 00:49 |
| penguin42 | What did you install from? | 00:50 |
| bcurtiswx | i've tried data cd's, audio cd's, video DVD's, | 00:50 |
| ror | sounds very strange | 00:50 |
| bcurtiswx | i installed Jaunty i386 desktop | 00:50 |
| penguin42 | from CD? | 00:50 |
| ror | next time it happens, try pressing ctrl+alt+F1 | 00:50 |
| ror | that'll get you to a terminal at least | 00:50 |
| bcurtiswx | yup | 00:50 |
| bcurtiswx | live CD | 00:50 |
| bcurtiswx | even did a integrity check | 00:50 |
| ror | and try to take a copy of your /var/log/xorg.1.log (I think?) | 00:50 |
| ror | ah OK, I don't know much about live CDs so I'll shut up now :) | 00:51 |
| bcurtiswx | i've had this problem before (in Intrepid) and i installed some package and everything i put into the drive worked again | 00:51 |
| migbuntu | dtchen: i have the qosmio F50, we spoke a few hours ago..... | 00:51 |
| migbuntu | since i executed those comands the max sound decrease alote... | 00:51 |
| migbuntu | i have already checked the volume and is everything in max... i think it was the comands you told to execute... | 00:51 |
| migbuntu | i just wanted the subwoofer sound and now i barely can hear the front speakers sound... | 00:51 |
| migbuntu | is there anything i can do? | 00:51 |
| migbuntu | is there anyone how can help me? | 00:51 |
| ror | bcurtiswx, you'd probably be better off asking the main #ubuntu channel for support really | 00:52 |
| migbuntu | i did report the problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/374166 | 00:53 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 374166 in linux "HDA intel integrated subwoofer doesnt work" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 00:53 |
| dtchen | migbuntu: which commands? | 00:53 |
| migbuntu | dtchen: the comands you told to.... the max sound decreased... | 00:54 |
| dtchen | which commands? | 00:54 |
| dtchen | ah | 00:55 |
| dtchen | you can sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf | 00:55 |
| dtchen | then, sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload | 00:55 |
| dtchen | anyhow, i'm out for an hour | 00:55 |
| penguin42 | dtchen: Thanks for your help | 00:56 |
| migbuntu | dtchen: echo options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba-rx1|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf | 00:56 |
| migbuntu | awk -F, '{print $1}' /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/model | 00:56 |
| migbuntu | sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload | 00:56 |
| migbuntu | dtchen: yes that one chould work... should i remove ....sound.conf??? | 00:57 |
| migbuntu | dtchen: thanks once again.... | 00:57 |
| migbuntu | i will restart my ubuntu... and tell if it will work... | 01:01 |
| sk8ingdom | I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this, but I have a problem I can't seem to find online. I have currently have two separate video cards working in jaunty each with their own x server. The problem is that when I use the menu on the right x server, it automatically opens programs on the left x server, thus rendering it useless. | 01:16 |
| migbuntu | it worked the sound level just is normal again... the subwoofer sound is the only thing missing... ill just wait for the solution... | 01:23 |
| bcurtiswx | ugh, i wish general users weren't able to change status messages in bugs | 02:52 |
| bcurtiswx | seems semi-rare (not too rare) that users will move their bugs off of triaged or incomplete to some random status they think is more appropriate | 02:53 |
| hggdh | yes, that happens... So we move it back to the correct status, and (ideally) used the occasion to tell them why we did it... part of the game, I guess | 03:13 |
| J_Wesker | hi I need an advice about a problem with Ubuntu | 05:18 |
| micahg | J_Wesker: this channel is for bug triaging, please try #ubuntu for support | 05:19 |
| J_Wesker | ok thanks | 05:20 |
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| Hew | Don't you love it when you double-click a .crash file to report it, but instead apport itself crashes and produces its own .crash file? :-) | 07:01 |
| Hellow | XD | 07:03 |
| G__81 | hi everyone | 07:20 |
| BioGuyver | Hi All, I think I have found a bug in the Server installation for raid disks but I would like to ask someone about it and find out more. | 10:13 |
| BioGuyver | Is here a good place? | 10:13 |
| Hew | BioGuyver: Possibly #ubuntu-server. Filing a bug report on the issue is probably the best first step, then it can be investigated/triaged. | 10:23 |
| BioGuyver | thanks | 10:24 |
| andol | BioGuyver: Checking existing bugs might also be a good idea. | 10:25 |
| BioGuyver | andol: Where is the best place to do this? | 10:26 |
| andol | BioGuyver: My best guess would be in the debian-installer and mdadm | 10:28 |
| andol | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer | 10:28 |
| andol | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm | 10:28 |
| andol | Well, the second part (mdadm) kind of assumes software raid, which I'm not sure if you are refering to. | 10:29 |
| BioGuyver | it is software raid and mdadm so that looks good | 10:29 |
| BioGuyver | I'll have a poke around in there now.Thanks | 10:29 |
| BUGabundo | I can't file a bug on apport with apport | 12:00 |
| BUGabundo | grrr | 12:00 |
| dwg | gah | 12:12 |
| dwg | infuriating intel driver X bug | 12:14 |
| dwg | 374431 | 12:14 |
| askand | I was just about to ask about intelbug too, but bug 349992 | 12:16 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 349992 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945 tiling] (Needs kernel 2.6.30-rc3) Low performance due to no A17 workaround" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349992 | 12:16 |
| askand | It is marked as fix released because of 2.6.30 kernel now in karmic. However I strongly think this bug should be fixed in Jaunty aswell? | 12:16 |
| Hobbsee | askand: it probably won't be - uxa isn't the default, fortunately | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | so it only affects those who specifically turn it on, and I can't imagine they'd backport the patches in such a case | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | due to risk and such | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | (afaik) | 12:29 |
| askand | Hobbsee: Bad intelperformance affects people who don't turn uxa on too. This man writes a good conclusion on the problem http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/05/04/jaunty-kernel-2630-fixes-the-intel-video/ | 12:59 |
| askand | And he is using EXA | 12:59 |
| Hobbsee | hrm, i hadn't noticed it being that bad. | 13:01 |
| askand | Hobbsee: I think it depends on the card too, on my intellaptop it is barely usable | 13:04 |
| askand | Phoronix have an interesting article to how "Intel Linux Driver Kills The Netbook Experience" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzIyMA | 13:05 |
| Hobbsee | this is where i start to think apple has the right idea | 13:05 |
| Hobbsee | only run it on a specific subset of hardware, and then you can be certain it all runs, all the time | 13:05 |
| Hobbsee | rather than the whole "this affects some people, but not others, with seemingly the same hardware" | 13:06 |
| askand | Hobbsee: Indeed, but haven't you noticed any signs of bad preformance in Jaunty compared to Intrepid? | 13:07 |
| Hobbsee | askand: hrmm. A couple - big pictures in firefox taking a few seconds to load, occasionally. My video performance is streets ahead in jaunty. Not sure on shredder, seeing as that's not official | 13:07 |
| Hobbsee | compiz is a little less snappy, perhaps | 13:08 |
| Hobbsee | in alt+tab | 13:08 |
| Hobbsee | otherwise, graphics-wise, no | 13:08 |
| Hobbsee | (standard dell 6400) | 13:08 |
| Hobbsee | 908 frames in 5.0 seconds = 181.448 FPS | 13:09 |
| Hobbsee | 964 frames in 5.0 seconds = 192.798 FPS | 13:09 |
| Hobbsee | hrm, which is apparently low | 13:10 |
| Hobbsee | apparently i don't run the highly graphics things | 13:10 |
| askand | Perhaps the bad performance is more noticable on already bad cards, I wouldn't think it's a very good card in my Asus EEE PC for example | 13:12 |
| Hobbsee | oh, i'd expect so | 13:12 |
| Hobbsee | (do they even have the 945gm's?) | 13:12 |
| Hobbsee | i'm just hoping ekiga or twinkle suddenly starts working again | 13:13 |
| Hobbsee | although others don't seem to have problems | 13:13 |
| askand | No, it's 915 in them I think, ekiga however works fine for me | 13:14 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i know it works for everyone else. It just doens't like me :-S | 13:19 |
| Hobbsee | didn't test intrepid's version, so it'll be interesting to see how jaunty's goes. | 13:19 |
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| lifeless | Hobbsee: you know the deal; you want it to work....do thyself | 13:26 |
| Hobbsee | lifeless: i've never been able to track down why it doesn't work. But yes, i'll likely end up trying that route again | 13:27 |
| lifeless | the voip protocols are amazingly silly | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | heh, indeed. | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | actually, iirc, it was more a problem with my mic going nuts. | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | or maybe that was the previous time | 13:27 |
| Hobbsee | no, this time, it was that it wouldn't even connect. that's right | 13:28 |
| Hobbsee | will have to try again :) | 13:28 |
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| bencrisford1 | what command would give the name of a disk drive/burner? | 14:50 |
| bencrisford1 | i couldnt see mine in lspci | 14:50 |
| penguin42 | it's not in lspci because it's not directly connected to PCI | 14:51 |
| Nafallo | the name as in? | 14:51 |
| bencrisford1 | like you get from an lspci for other hardware | 14:52 |
| bencrisford1 | penguin42: what command would I run then? | 14:52 |
| penguin42 | waht do you want the device like /dev/splat or do you want a name like 'Acme Drivemakers' | 14:53 |
| bencrisford1 | basically someone has reported a bug to do with disk burning | 14:53 |
| bencrisford1 | i was gonna tell them how to post their hardware name | 14:54 |
| bencrisford1 | because it could be useful for develoeprs | 14:54 |
| bencrisford1 | g2g, i posted what i knew | 14:55 |
| bencrisford1 | bye | 14:55 |
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| maxb | So.... anyone have any idea how I'd file a useful bug on "Audio is crackly from DVDs only?" | 18:02 |
| penguin42 | only from DVDs?? No other audio playback - say rhythmbox? | 18:03 |
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| maxb | Oddly, .mp3s play fine | 18:05 |
| maxb | even when playing in the same software as the DVDs which don't | 18:06 |
| penguin42 | it might depend on CPU loading | 18:06 |
| maxb | also, the same problem occurs playing the DVDs in either totem or mplayer | 18:06 |
| maxb | hmm... possibility | 18:06 |
| penguin42 | maxb: You might have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/345627 | 18:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 345627 in linux "Crackling / scratching noise using Pulseaudio" [Medium,Fix committed] | 18:06 |
| maxb | hmm | 18:07 |
| maxb | though that bug is targetted at jaunty | 18:07 |
| penguin42 | what you on? | 18:08 |
| maxb | And my problem only started after upgrading to karmic | 18:08 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 18:08 |
| chaos2fu | are there someone here that are currently running ubuntu netbook remix and can help me to get the panels and the menus back in place? | 19:10 |
| elena09 | hello | 19:36 |
| micahg | greetings | 19:36 |
| elena09 | hibernate bug | 19:36 |
| elena09 | at my tower | 19:36 |
| elena09 | can't exit from Hibernate, lots of numbers repeating on the screen, indefinetely, after I moved the mouse | 19:49 |
| nellery_ | elena09: please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for reporting bugs | 19:51 |
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| elena09 | I thought you knew about that... | 19:52 |
| bcurtiswx | anyone know what mounts CD and DVD media in Jaunty? | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: humm #ubuntu ? | 21:21 |
| bcurtiswx | im being ignored | 21:21 |
| bcurtiswx | one person said "its automatic" | 21:22 |
| bcurtiswx | thanks.. sherlock | 21:22 |
| BUGabundo | eheeh | 21:23 |
| BUGabundo | I guess nothing... | 21:23 |
| BUGabundo | you don't auto mount cds | 21:23 |
| BUGabundo | fstab should have a rule for it | 21:23 |
| BUGabundo | and the filemanager should have access to it | 21:23 |
| bcurtiswx | anything i insert into my cd/dvd drive ubuntu freezes | 21:23 |
| bcurtiswx | im just trying to find the culprit | 21:23 |
| bencrisford1 | bcurtiswx: try typing mount into terminal | 21:23 |
| BUGabundo | if it is a media disc, then some apps can autostart | 21:23 |
| bcurtiswx | its probably just in need of a new drive... which sucks | 21:25 |
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| bencrisford1 | did typing 'mount' not work bcurtiswx? | 21:26 |
| bcurtiswx | it worked, but it just shows me what is mounted | 21:26 |
| bcurtiswx | brb | 21:27 |
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| bencrisford1 | oh | 21:28 |
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| BUGabundo | dtchen: come on.... tell themuso that log scales is a bad thing!! lower then 60% is equal to MUTE | 21:31 |
| bcurtiswx | what dvd drives work best with ubuntu? | 21:33 |
| BUGabundo | heheh | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | which one don't? | 21:34 |
| bcurtiswx | mine | 21:35 |
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| bcurtiswx | Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A | 21:35 |
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| BUGabundo | ROFL | 21:36 |
| bcurtiswx | it causes ubuntu to freeze anytime i insert something into it | 21:38 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtiswx: could be a bad drive and causing kernel panic | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | I've seen that with other devices | 21:40 |
| bcurtiswx | which is why im probably going to replace it | 21:40 |
| bcurtiswx | hance my question "which ones work best" | 21:40 |
| bcurtiswx | hence* | 21:40 |
| BUGabundo | any ! | 21:40 |
| bcurtiswx | <looks for the "any" brand DVD drive> :P | 21:43 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | any cheap but relliable | 21:44 |
| dtchen | BUGabundo: do you really expect upstream to agree? you might want to raise it there. | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: heh thanks for the input! | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: I do agree log is better then linear. but it's a diff use case and many users will find it hard to use (at beiggining) | 22:45 |
| dtchen | yeah, well, people are going to scream bloody murder at everything in karmic, then | 22:46 |
| scream | . | 22:46 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: eheh here is mine THIS SUCKSSSS ehehe | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: if I lower to ~65% its MUTE, its no use for me | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | and even at 100% its lower then ibex was | 22:48 |
| dtchen | that's a driver issue unless you can reproduce it w/o pa | 22:48 |
| BUGabundo | I can try removing auto spawn and try OSS or alsa to be sure | 22:49 |
| dtchen | i'm probably going to have to tag 345627 verification failed :( | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | bug 345627 | 22:49 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 345627 in linux "Crackling / scratching noise using Pulseaudio" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345627 | 22:49 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: no true | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | it *works* for some users | 22:50 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 22:50 |
| dtchen | yes, but it's known-broken for some users in 11.42 and introduces a regression for others in 12.43 | 22:50 |
| dtchen | it's better to have known breakage than to introduce new regressions | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | dtchen: be glad to only have 2 dupes and so few comments | 22:51 |
| dtchen | well, the problem is that this bug touches the _entire_ audio stack | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | I guess you will have to have a spare kernel for those affected to whom a special kernel fixes it | 22:51 |
| dtchen | from the hardware+bios, linux, alsa-lib, pulseaudio, alsa-plugins, and apps | 22:51 |
| BUGabundo | like the one before release | 22:51 |
| dtchen | yeah, but that's a lot of overhead for me | 22:55 |
| dtchen | more importantly, people using such a kernel will not get support | 22:55 |
| BUGabundo | humm https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-users is 404 duh | 23:09 |
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