[00:03] dtchen: I triggered it on the proposed kernel on a host with just 3 totem-xine's running [00:04] dtchen: And that's with the resample trivial and default-fragment-size-msec = 5 [00:05] penguin42: ok. [00:05] i have no love for realtek or sigmatel/idt [00:06] anything else you want me to try while I'm here [00:06] not unless you can compile gst-plugins-good from git head [00:06] sure - point me at the sources [00:07] although given xine's triggering it do you think that's relavent? [00:07] * maco hides her sigmatel and realtek based laptops from dtchen in case he gets the mallet [00:08] sure [00:08] it's a linux bug, but i have no idea [yet] why none of the conexants seem to be dropping [00:09] i suppose i can ask for the changes to be reverted, but we're going to break some percentage of people [00:09] dtchen: What's the symptoms they see? [00:10] what you're seeing [00:10] oh I see so we have a choice in breaking one or the other of us? [00:10] of course, that's always how it works [00:17] dtchen: The git from here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-good ? === Hellow_ is now known as Hellow [00:19] penguin42: yes, but hold off on that [00:19] oh, I've got it cloning anyway [00:23] dtchen: My xine config says it's set for esd - although pactl list seems to show ALSA plugin [00:37] dtchen: I'm going to bed in a few minutes, if there are any tests you can think of you want me to try just mail me at ubuntu@treblig.org - although I very rarely do stuff during the week so it's a lot easier if I get something tomorrow if you want a quick answer [00:47] hey all, anyone know why jaunty wouldn't know how to handle media from a CD drive and halt the system [00:48] am i missing a library? [00:48] ? [00:48] what happens when you halt? [00:48] the system doesn't work [00:48] i move mouse to no avail [00:48] bcurtiswx: does this happen with all discs? (could be a bad disc) [00:48] i can open and close my cd drive [00:49] ror: all disks [00:49] discs* [00:49] and your system is fine up until the point where you put in a CD? [00:49] yup [00:50] What did you install from? [00:50] i've tried data cd's, audio cd's, video DVD's, [00:50] sounds very strange [00:50] i installed Jaunty i386 desktop [00:50] from CD? [00:50] next time it happens, try pressing ctrl+alt+F1 [00:50] that'll get you to a terminal at least [00:50] yup [00:50] live CD [00:50] even did a integrity check [00:50] and try to take a copy of your /var/log/xorg.1.log (I think?) [00:51] ah OK, I don't know much about live CDs so I'll shut up now :) [00:51] i've had this problem before (in Intrepid) and i installed some package and everything i put into the drive worked again [00:51] dtchen: i have the qosmio F50, we spoke a few hours ago..... [00:51] since i executed those comands the max sound decrease alote... [00:51] i have already checked the volume and is everything in max... i think it was the comands you told to execute... [00:51] i just wanted the subwoofer sound and now i barely can hear the front speakers sound... [00:51] is there anything i can do? [00:51] is there anyone how can help me? [00:52] bcurtiswx, you'd probably be better off asking the main #ubuntu channel for support really [00:53] i did report the problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/374166 [00:53] Launchpad bug 374166 in linux "HDA intel integrated subwoofer doesnt work" [Undecided,Incomplete] [00:53] migbuntu: which commands? [00:54] dtchen: the comands you told to.... the max sound decreased... [00:54] which commands? [00:55] ah [00:55] you can sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf [00:55] then, sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload [00:55] anyhow, i'm out for an hour [00:56] dtchen: Thanks for your help [00:56] dtchen: echo options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba-rx1|sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf [00:56] awk -F, '{print $1}' /sys/module/snd_hda_intel/parameters/model [00:56] sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload [00:57] dtchen: yes that one chould work... should i remove ....sound.conf??? [00:57] dtchen: thanks once again.... [01:01] i will restart my ubuntu... and tell if it will work... [01:16] I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this, but I have a problem I can't seem to find online. I have currently have two separate video cards working in jaunty each with their own x server. The problem is that when I use the menu on the right x server, it automatically opens programs on the left x server, thus rendering it useless. [01:23] it worked the sound level just is normal again... the subwoofer sound is the only thing missing... ill just wait for the solution... [02:52] ugh, i wish general users weren't able to change status messages in bugs [02:53] seems semi-rare (not too rare) that users will move their bugs off of triaged or incomplete to some random status they think is more appropriate [03:13] yes, that happens... So we move it back to the correct status, and (ideally) used the occasion to tell them why we did it... part of the game, I guess [05:18] hi I need an advice about a problem with Ubuntu [05:19] J_Wesker: this channel is for bug triaging, please try #ubuntu for support [05:20] ok thanks === calc_ is now known as calc [07:01] Don't you love it when you double-click a .crash file to report it, but instead apport itself crashes and produces its own .crash file? :-) [07:03] XD [07:20] hi everyone [10:13] Hi All, I think I have found a bug in the Server installation for raid disks but I would like to ask someone about it and find out more. [10:13] Is here a good place? [10:23] BioGuyver: Possibly #ubuntu-server. Filing a bug report on the issue is probably the best first step, then it can be investigated/triaged. [10:24] thanks [10:25] BioGuyver: Checking existing bugs might also be a good idea. [10:26] andol: Where is the best place to do this? [10:28] BioGuyver: My best guess would be in the debian-installer and mdadm [10:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer [10:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm [10:29] Well, the second part (mdadm) kind of assumes software raid, which I'm not sure if you are refering to. [10:29] it is software raid and mdadm so that looks good [10:29] I'll have a poke around in there now.Thanks [12:00] I can't file a bug on apport with apport [12:00] grrr [12:12] gah [12:14] infuriating intel driver X bug [12:14] 374431 [12:16] I was just about to ask about intelbug too, but bug 349992 [12:16] Launchpad bug 349992 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945 tiling] (Needs kernel 2.6.30-rc3) Low performance due to no A17 workaround" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349992 [12:16] It is marked as fix released because of 2.6.30 kernel now in karmic. However I strongly think this bug should be fixed in Jaunty aswell? [12:25] askand: it probably won't be - uxa isn't the default, fortunately [12:26] so it only affects those who specifically turn it on, and I can't imagine they'd backport the patches in such a case [12:26] due to risk and such [12:29] (afaik) [12:59] Hobbsee: Bad intelperformance affects people who don't turn uxa on too. This man writes a good conclusion on the problem http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/05/04/jaunty-kernel-2630-fixes-the-intel-video/ [12:59] And he is using EXA [13:01] hrm, i hadn't noticed it being that bad. [13:04] Hobbsee: I think it depends on the card too, on my intellaptop it is barely usable [13:05] Phoronix have an interesting article to how "Intel Linux Driver Kills The Netbook Experience" http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzIyMA [13:05] this is where i start to think apple has the right idea [13:05] only run it on a specific subset of hardware, and then you can be certain it all runs, all the time [13:06] rather than the whole "this affects some people, but not others, with seemingly the same hardware" [13:07] Hobbsee: Indeed, but haven't you noticed any signs of bad preformance in Jaunty compared to Intrepid? [13:07] askand: hrmm. A couple - big pictures in firefox taking a few seconds to load, occasionally. My video performance is streets ahead in jaunty. Not sure on shredder, seeing as that's not official [13:08] compiz is a little less snappy, perhaps [13:08] in alt+tab [13:08] otherwise, graphics-wise, no [13:08] (standard dell 6400) [13:09] 908 frames in 5.0 seconds = 181.448 FPS [13:09] 964 frames in 5.0 seconds = 192.798 FPS [13:10] hrm, which is apparently low [13:10] apparently i don't run the highly graphics things [13:12] Perhaps the bad performance is more noticable on already bad cards, I wouldn't think it's a very good card in my Asus EEE PC for example [13:12] oh, i'd expect so [13:12] (do they even have the 945gm's?) [13:13] i'm just hoping ekiga or twinkle suddenly starts working again [13:13] although others don't seem to have problems [13:14] No, it's 915 in them I think, ekiga however works fine for me [13:19] yeah, i know it works for everyone else. It just doens't like me :-S [13:19] didn't test intrepid's version, so it'll be interesting to see how jaunty's goes. === edsoncanto is now known as ecanto [13:26] Hobbsee: you know the deal; you want it to work....do thyself [13:27] lifeless: i've never been able to track down why it doesn't work. But yes, i'll likely end up trying that route again [13:27] the voip protocols are amazingly silly [13:27] heh, indeed. [13:27] actually, iirc, it was more a problem with my mic going nuts. [13:27] or maybe that was the previous time [13:28] no, this time, it was that it wouldn't even connect. that's right [13:28] will have to try again :) === asac_ is now known as asac [14:50] what command would give the name of a disk drive/burner? [14:50] i couldnt see mine in lspci [14:51] it's not in lspci because it's not directly connected to PCI [14:51] the name as in? [14:52] like you get from an lspci for other hardware [14:52] penguin42: what command would I run then? [14:53] waht do you want the device like /dev/splat or do you want a name like 'Acme Drivemakers' [14:53] basically someone has reported a bug to do with disk burning [14:54] i was gonna tell them how to post their hardware name [14:54] because it could be useful for develoeprs [14:55] g2g, i posted what i knew [14:55] bye === ecanto is now known as Edson === Edson is now known as edson === tim__sharitt is now known as tim_sharitt === Hellow is now known as Rocket4DMn [18:02] So.... anyone have any idea how I'd file a useful bug on "Audio is crackly from DVDs only?" [18:03] only from DVDs?? No other audio playback - say rhythmbox? === Rocket4DMn is now known as Hellow [18:05] Oddly, .mp3s play fine [18:06] even when playing in the same software as the DVDs which don't [18:06] it might depend on CPU loading [18:06] also, the same problem occurs playing the DVDs in either totem or mplayer [18:06] hmm... possibility [18:06] maxb: You might have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/345627 [18:06] Launchpad bug 345627 in linux "Crackling / scratching noise using Pulseaudio" [Medium,Fix committed] [18:07] hmm [18:07] though that bug is targetted at jaunty [18:08] what you on? [18:08] And my problem only started after upgrading to karmic [18:08] ah ok [19:10] are there someone here that are currently running ubuntu netbook remix and can help me to get the panels and the menus back in place? [19:36] hello [19:36] greetings [19:36] hibernate bug [19:36] at my tower [19:49] can't exit from Hibernate, lots of numbers repeating on the screen, indefinetely, after I moved the mouse [19:51] elena09: please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for reporting bugs === nellery_ is now known as nellery [19:52] I thought you knew about that... [21:21] anyone know what mounts CD and DVD media in Jaunty? [21:21] bcurtiswx: humm #ubuntu ? [21:21] im being ignored [21:22] one person said "its automatic" [21:22] thanks.. sherlock [21:23] eheeh [21:23] I guess nothing... [21:23] you don't auto mount cds [21:23] fstab should have a rule for it [21:23] and the filemanager should have access to it [21:23] anything i insert into my cd/dvd drive ubuntu freezes [21:23] im just trying to find the culprit [21:23] bcurtiswx: try typing mount into terminal [21:23] if it is a media disc, then some apps can autostart [21:25] its probably just in need of a new drive... which sucks === edsoncanto is now known as edson [21:26] did typing 'mount' not work bcurtiswx? [21:26] it worked, but it just shows me what is mounted [21:27] brb === edson is now known as edsoncanto [21:28] oh === edsoncanto is now known as edson === edson is now known as edsoncanto [21:31] dtchen: come on.... tell themuso that log scales is a bad thing!! lower then 60% is equal to MUTE [21:33] what dvd drives work best with ubuntu? [21:34] heheh [21:34] which one don't? [21:35] mine === ecanto is now known as edson [21:35] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A === edson is now known as ecanto [21:36] ROFL [21:38] it causes ubuntu to freeze anytime i insert something into it [21:39] bcurtiswx: could be a bad drive and causing kernel panic [21:40] I've seen that with other devices [21:40] which is why im probably going to replace it [21:40] hance my question "which ones work best" [21:40] hence* [21:40] any ! [21:43] :P [21:44] eheh [21:44] any cheap but relliable [22:43] BUGabundo: do you really expect upstream to agree? you might want to raise it there. [22:44] dtchen: heh thanks for the input! [22:45] dtchen: I do agree log is better then linear. but it's a diff use case and many users will find it hard to use (at beiggining) [22:46] yeah, well, people are going to scream bloody murder at everything in karmic, then [22:46] . [22:47] dtchen: eheh here is mine THIS SUCKSSSS ehehe [22:48] dtchen: if I lower to ~65% its MUTE, its no use for me [22:48] and even at 100% its lower then ibex was [22:48] that's a driver issue unless you can reproduce it w/o pa [22:49] I can try removing auto spawn and try OSS or alsa to be sure [22:49] i'm probably going to have to tag 345627 verification failed :( [22:49] bug 345627 [22:49] Launchpad bug 345627 in linux "Crackling / scratching noise using Pulseaudio" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345627 [22:50] dtchen: no true [22:50] it *works* for some users [22:50] lol [22:50] yes, but it's known-broken for some users in 11.42 and introduces a regression for others in 12.43 [22:51] it's better to have known breakage than to introduce new regressions [22:51] dtchen: be glad to only have 2 dupes and so few comments [22:51] well, the problem is that this bug touches the _entire_ audio stack [22:51] I guess you will have to have a spare kernel for those affected to whom a special kernel fixes it [22:51] from the hardware+bios, linux, alsa-lib, pulseaudio, alsa-plugins, and apps [22:51] like the one before release [22:55] yeah, but that's a lot of overhead for me [22:55] more importantly, people using such a kernel will not get support [23:09] humm https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-users is 404 duh === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh