| slangasek | doko: I see that calc has assigned bug #373911 to you; will you have time to work on this in advance of alpha 1 (which basically means getting it done by Monday), or should I have a look? (Or should we defer it until after alpha-1, to avoid OOo breaking the world once we unblock it? :) | 00:04 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373911 in gcj-4.4 "gcj fails to build OOo 3.1.0 on i386/lpia due to claim that libgcj.spec missing" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373911 | 00:04 |
| slangasek | I guess the immediate problem can be fixed just by merging up gcj-4.4 | 00:05 |
| slangasek | calc: ^^ | 00:05 |
| slangasek | waaah, 7 digit soyuz queue numbers :( | 00:08 |
| Nafallo | hmm. | 00:09 |
| slangasek | E: collectd: shlib-with-non-pic-code usr/sbin/collectdmon | 00:13 |
| slangasek | so very wrong :P | 00:13 |
| directhex | slangasek, how does http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-mono/packages/mono.git;a=commitdiff;h=88098645f7292133a52c5bc068b8fcdc94b12d4e look in terms of mono preinst stuff? | 01:07 |
| slangasek | directhex: "dpkg --compare-versions [...] && if"? | 01:41 |
| slangasek | directhex: "if dpkg --compare-versions [...] &&" would be more idiomatic | 01:41 |
| slangasek | directhex: btw, I think it would look cleaner if instead of generating this snippet in debian/rules, you had a copy of it as a separate file under debian/ that you could append as needed | 01:42 |
| directhex | howso? | 01:42 |
| slangasek | hmm? | 01:43 |
| directhex | you mean pull in a preinst template rather than using echo? | 01:44 |
| slangasek | yeah | 01:44 |
| slangasek | with a sed for the $$p bits | 01:44 |
| slangasek | the existing code is fine, I'm just generally averse to doing significant bits of scripting directly in a Makefile on account of the escaping requiremenst | 01:45 |
| directhex | yeah, there were an awful lot of try/retry iterations to get it right | 01:45 |
| directhex | i'll look into it tomorrow | 01:45 |
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| mrhoden2009 | Does anyone know how to do RAID configurations on Ubuntu, I have a few questions. | 03:52 |
| wgrant | mrhoden2009: You want #ubuntu. | 03:53 |
| mrhoden2009 | thanks, I tried there but without much luck | 03:54 |
| mrhoden2009 | do you know a better channel? | 03:54 |
| wgrant | I'm not sure, but certainly not here. | 03:54 |
| mrhoden2009 | I tried ubuntu-server as well | 03:54 |
| mrhoden2009 | lol okay thanks | 03:55 |
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| calc | slangasek: i have a workaround that i think i may use... turn off using gcj entirely in OOo | 04:43 |
| calc | slangasek: gcj seems to be fairly crap in any case so getting rid of gcj support in OOo isn't really a loss afaict | 04:44 |
| maco | calc: mm? what's gcj do that's silly to OOo? | 04:45 |
| calc | sorry my desktop stopped accepting keyboard input and my laptop didn't fully work after resuming | 04:50 |
| calc | maco: so the issue is bug 373911 | 04:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373911 in gcj-4.4 "gcj fails to build OOo 3.1.0 on i386/lpia due to claim that libgcj.spec missing" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373911 | 04:51 |
| calc | maco: it seems that gcj does not work properly on i386/lpia or perhaps when used with aotcompile | 04:51 |
| calc | maco: aotcompile.py is part of gcj though so probably should work, and OOo relies on it working to compile native jars | 04:52 |
| maco | fun...what is .spec in terms other than rpm packaging? | 04:52 |
| calc | it tells libgcj how to do linking | 04:53 |
| maco | ah ok | 04:53 |
| calc | the file is actually there or at least should be, its there on my test chroot but gcj seems to be unable to find it | 04:54 |
| calc | hmm my keyboard wasn't actually dead it seems firefox ate it | 04:55 |
| maco | ive been running into that problem with Qt apps a lot | 04:55 |
| calc | i killed firefox and then logged out and back into X and everything works fine again | 04:56 |
| maco | type type type and nothing shows up | 04:56 |
| maco | ah i just have to change window focus about 10 times or so, then my kbd works again. killing the app thats rejecting input also works | 04:56 |
| calc | maco: it ate it to where i couldn't even get a terminal to work | 04:57 |
| calc | yea killing firefox in this case seemed to help | 04:57 |
| calc | it also seemed to cause my mouse not to work correctly either probably the same issue | 04:58 |
| calc | anyone else get a 'disable advertising' button on /. ? | 05:01 |
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| FloridaGuy | hey guys....keep up the great work....9.04 has approved alot..in preformence..speed...lolks | 05:43 |
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| DShepherd | hello all | 05:57 |
| poningru | 'lo | 05:57 |
| DShepherd | my hibernate works! finally! who can i thank for this!! | 05:57 |
| DShepherd | it just .. works outside of the box with jaunty | 05:58 |
| DShepherd | and I am really thankful. Give me some names .. something.. i wanna thank them for this | 05:58 |
| Amaranth | DShepherd: It was all me ;) | 06:19 |
| Amaranth | DShepherd: I waved a magic wand over it | 06:20 |
| DShepherd | hehehe | 06:20 |
| Amaranth | Seriously though, that'd be the kernel team and/or the guys who work on your graphics driver | 06:20 |
| * DShepherd praise Amaranth | 06:20 | |
| DShepherd | nvidia card here... | 06:20 |
| DShepherd | i dont think I am using the opensource driver here | 06:21 |
| DShepherd | Amaranth, but thanks for the direction though. I am in ubuntu-kernel channel now | 06:21 |
| slangasek | calc: er, I don't see the basis for saying that gcj is "fairly crap". | 06:23 |
| slangasek | calc: it just happens to be out of sync with gcc 4.4 right now, as I said. | 06:23 |
| DShepherd | Amaranth, dont you do some nvidia driver work? | 06:24 |
| Amaranth | DShepherd: nope, in the dapper days I packaged a driver in my PPA that supported GL_EXT_texture_from_pixmap but otherwise I stay away | 06:25 |
| DShepherd | Amaranth, ah ok. | 06:25 |
| nixternal | mneptok: you sure have a lot of nerve talking about pie on the planet, at least you tried to calm the Chicago waters here, but I have an army who is ready to fight for best pie :p | 07:16 |
| jussi01 | nixternal: I want pie... give me some! | 07:27 |
| nixternal | mmmmm, spacca's tomorrow for some good ol' pie and beer....pizza maffia style :) | 07:28 |
| mneptok | nixternal: Chicago pizza isn't pie. it's dough with some red stuff on top. >;) | 07:30 |
| nixternal | oh man, you are asking for it! | 07:30 |
| * nixternal whistles and summons up the good fellahs | 07:30 | |
| nixternal | nhandler: help me out dude, lets do this Chicago style! | 07:31 |
| * mneptok looks around ABQ and Rio Rancho | 07:31 | |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:31 |
| mneptok | prolly more mafiosi here than there ;) | 07:31 |
| nixternal | all you have done there is the sun! | 07:31 |
| nixternal | mneptok: depends, can we count the ones who just went to prison here? | 07:31 |
| mneptok | three words. "In Plain Sight" | 07:31 |
| mneptok | Blagojevich is Italian? >;) | 07:32 |
| nixternal | mneptok: they don't count, they are all down there as Paul Smith in witness protection :P | 07:32 |
| nixternal | no, blago is just stupid | 07:32 |
| mneptok | like Chicago pizza. | 07:32 |
| * mneptok runs | 07:32 | |
| nixternal | oh mna | 07:32 |
| nixternal | man | 07:32 |
| * nixternal whistles louder | 07:32 | |
| slangasek | mneptok: OOI, how does "New York, New York" rate on your scale of Portland pizzerias? :) | 08:23 |
| slangasek | (and if you know better, please share :) | 08:23 |
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| mneptok | slangasek: no idea. never been there. | 08:32 |
| mneptok | slangasek: if the crust is more than a pinky finger thick, and shows no sign of burning, it's crap. :) | 08:32 |
| slangasek | heh | 08:34 |
| slangasek | of course it's not more than a pinky finger thick :) | 08:34 |
| slangasek | it's New York style, not Pizza Hut style | 08:35 |
| mneptok | Pizza Hut isn't pizza. it's ketchup on a bagel with a genetic defect. >:P | 08:35 |
| slangasek | lool, doko: I'm having a poke at the gcj-4.4 merge, so that gcj can find its .spec file again, and I'm confused about how it's supposed to be configured on armel because the changelog says "build with --with-float=softfp --with-fpu=vfp", and the debian/rules disagrees - which way is this supposed to be? | 08:41 |
| lool | slangasek: We deferred these changes | 09:07 |
| slangasek | ok | 09:07 |
| lool | slangasek: To only switch when we move up to >= armv6 | 09:07 |
| lool | Until then, we have compat with non-vfp systems | 09:07 |
| * slangasek nods | 09:07 | |
| lool | Thanks for the merge! | 09:08 |
| BUGabundo | pitti: ping. I can't file a bug on apport using apport | 12:00 |
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| doko | slangasek: preparing an upload now | 13:28 |
| MaximLevitsky | I have a patch to fix small bug in open-terminal extension | 13:57 |
| MaximLevitsky | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-open-terminal/+bug/333462 | 13:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 333462 in nautilus-open-terminal "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 13:57 |
| MaximLevitsky | How to get it included? | 13:57 |
| poningru | MaximLevitsky, attach the patch | 14:10 |
| poningru | to the bugreport in launchpad | 14:10 |
| MaximLevitsky | poningru: I did so | 14:10 |
| MaximLevitsky | a debdiff that is | 14:10 |
| poningru | ping one of the core devs? though that is frowned upon iirc | 14:11 |
| MaximLevitsky | poningru: isn't there a standard way to mark a bug report as fixed/patch attached ? | 14:11 |
| MaximLevitsky | I assigned it to ubuntu-main-sponsors in hope that will help | 14:12 |
| Hobbsee | subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors, and they'll sponsor it | 14:12 |
| Hobbsee | (please don't assign them) | 14:12 |
| MaximLevitsky | Hobbsee: ok, done | 14:14 |
| wgrant | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 14:14 |
| MaximLevitsky | this package belongs to universe | 14:17 |
| MaximLevitsky | so can I unsubscribe main sponsers/ | 14:18 |
| MaximLevitsky | ? | 14:18 |
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| james_w | dear fellow archive admins: diffstat isn't installed, which seems to prevent me from running lintian, that's not just me right? | 14:33 |
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| jdstrand | slangasek: re launchpadlib remotely> I run it just fine remotely here-- am I missing something? | 15:21 |
| soren | How do you run launchpadlib non-remotely? | 15:34 |
| calc | slangasek: 'fairly crap' was with regards to it causing quite a few bugs over the years with OOo due to not being good enough compared to java spec | 16:02 |
| calc | slangasek: before we converted over to using openjdk for OOo we would get bugs about java related code not working correctly on a fairly regular basiss | 16:02 |
| directhex | does openjdk run on all arches yet? | 16:03 |
| calc | directhex: it apparently has issues on ia64 but afaict I am using it for all other archs now | 16:05 |
| calc | directhex: ia64 is still using gcj :\ | 16:05 |
| calc | i've seen bugs even recently about gcj usage when people have installed the ooo-gcj package so getting rid of it would probably not be a bad thing | 16:06 |
| directhex | calc, how odd, sun re-released an ia64 version of java 6 very recently | 16:06 |
| directhex | after a big java-shaped drought for itanic users | 16:06 |
| calc | directhex: i didn't set ia64 to use gcj rene did, so i'm not entirely sure why he did that, probably due to some bugs | 16:06 |
| directhex | perhaps | 16:07 |
| calc | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502422 | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 502422 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org_1:3.0.0-2(ia64/experimental): UNO calling Java" [Serious,Closed] | 16:10 |
| calc | that was why he disabled openjdk on ia64 | 16:10 |
| Chipzz | calc: 'fairly crap' is also how I would describe OOo as a whole | 16:12 |
| calc | Chipzz: true :) | 16:12 |
| Chipzz | OOo is software nobody really wants to use, but uses at a lack of better alternative | 16:12 |
| calc | Chipzz: but a java compiler that doesn't compile valid java isn't particularly useful | 16:13 |
| Chipzz | yeah | 16:13 |
| directhex | Chipzz, waiting to see what happens next w/ Oracle and OOo | 16:13 |
| Chipzz | but then, 'fairly crap' is /also/ how I would describe Java as a whole | 16:13 |
| directhex | mildly amusing that sun java can't compile sun openoffice, but hey ho | 16:14 |
| Chipzz | :P | 16:14 |
| directhex | i don't think i can describe java in those terms without starting a CoC debate | 16:14 |
| Chipzz | Java is an academic experiment ran out of hand :P | 16:14 |
| directhex | java is a trailblazing pioneer | 16:15 |
| maxb | Yup. You look at some portions of its APIs, and you think "What *idiot* designed this?" | 16:15 |
| calc | looks like doko already fixed gcj for me though so i can retry the builds :) | 16:16 |
| calc | directhex: openjdk isn't really sun java, its sun java that has been modified to some extent | 16:16 |
| directhex | maxb, i think java combines wild-eyed innocence at its newness, with a very very long backwards-compatibility approach. this may be considered "bad" | 16:17 |
| Chipzz | amusingly, for a lot of things I've tried it for, gnumeric and abiword work at least as good/better than OOo | 16:17 |
| calc | directhex: afaik sun java itself does build OOo but is non-free so we don't use that | 16:17 |
| meoblast001 | hi | 16:17 |
| meoblast001 | i have a question of whether something would be possible or not | 16:17 |
| Chipzz | have you tried asking on #ubuntu first? :P | 16:18 |
| * calc agrees with the intrepreted languages being not particularly useful (esp due to being very slow) debate ;-) | 16:18 | |
| meoblast001 | i often have a lot of development packages on my system that i only use once | 16:18 |
| meoblast001 | would it be possible for computer janitor to eventually remove those | 16:18 |
| Chipzz | meoblast001: apt-get auto-remove | 16:18 |
| Chipzz | now go to #ubuntu please :) | 16:18 |
| meoblast001 | ok | 16:18 |
| Chipzz | (may also be autoremove with the -) | 16:19 |
| Chipzz | weird how you can just *feel* that whatever someone is going to ask will be off-topic even before they ask it | 16:19 |
| maxb | It must be said #ubuntu is somewhat useless due to its own success :-/ | 16:19 |
| maxb | One of benefits of running the development release is the ability to use #ubuntu+1 with a clearl concience :-) | 16:21 |
| directhex | i ba=rely trust karmic in a pbuilder yet, let alone on a real pc | 16:21 |
| calc | maxb: even better to just build in chroots then you don't cruft up your system to begin with | 16:22 |
| Chipzz | calc: it's not so much the interpreted nature of java (which isn't even 100% true to start with) I have a problem with | 16:22 |
| Chipzz | python is interpreted too | 16:23 |
| calc | yea python is slow too :) | 16:23 |
| Chipzz | and so is .net | 16:23 |
| * calc used to have a link comparing various languages speed | 16:23 | |
| Chipzz | mono is a lot faster compared to java last I tried | 16:23 |
| calc | yea | 16:24 |
| calc | iirc python was something like an order of magnitude slower than c at least in some areas | 16:24 |
| Chipzz | one of the few things I don't fault M$ for | 16:24 |
| directhex | mono is faster in many cases, but has a juch slower GC | 16:24 |
| calc | and .net was a few times slower and java a few times slower than .net | 16:24 |
| directhex | python is ~60x slower than mono | 16:24 |
| calc | .net being a few times slower than c | 16:24 |
| Chipzz | but then, the benchmarks you ran probably aren't very relevant to real world use | 16:25 |
| Chipzz | in practice, most of the time, be it in Java, .Net or Python is spent in bindings (ie native code) | 16:26 |
| Chipzz | and I doubt there are benchmarks comparing the same program in gtk+, pygtk, gtk# and java-gnome | 16:26 |
| calc | yea and for mostly gui programs you just need fast enough code | 16:27 |
| calc | most apps aren't cpu bound, they just wait for user input all the time | 16:27 |
| Chipzz | and like I said, even the user input waiting happens in C :p | 16:28 |
| directhex | Chipzz, and where most time is spent waitring for user input, the important factor shifts to "does writing this code give me a hernia?" | 16:28 |
| Chipzz | personally I decide what language to write a program in based on whatever is most suited/fits the idiom best | 16:29 |
| Chipzz | or amounts to the least lines of code | 16:30 |
| Chipzz | (excluding whitespace/semiwhitespace/comments) | 16:30 |
| Chipzz | semiwhitesspace -> things like { and } in C for example | 16:31 |
| Chipzz | if (foo) | 16:31 |
| Chipzz | { | 16:31 |
| Chipzz | bar; | 16:31 |
| Chipzz | } | 16:31 |
| Chipzz | would be counted as only 2 lines | 16:31 |
| calc | slangasek: do you happen to know what is wrong with libltdl7-dev on powerpc i got the same build failure for OOo as the other one that was an arch mismatch but i didn't see it in the mismatch file | 17:14 |
| calc | slangasek: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26510428/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-powerpc.openoffice.org_1%3A3.1.0~rc2-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 17:14 |
| james_w | calc: that package doesn't exist in karmic | 17:18 |
| james_w | probably libltdl-dev now | 17:18 |
| calc | james_w: ok | 17:19 |
| calc | so then i guess unixodbc is bugged because the last version uploaded specifically depends on libltdl7-dev :\ | 17:20 |
| calc | " * (Build)-depend on libltdl7-dev to fix dependencies on armel." | 17:21 |
| james_w | well that was an upload to jaunty | 17:21 |
| calc | well is now buggy rather since it needs to be updated | 17:22 |
| calc | hmm no libltdl-dev provides libltdl7-dev | 17:22 |
| * calc checks when libtool was last built on powerpc | 17:23 | |
| calc | ah it probably was built after OOo failed | 17:23 |
| geiseri_ | hi, i have a problem with my own generated ftp-archive generated package set, i can debootrap the sysetem, but tasksel fails because it cannot fund task minimal. i am assuming i missed a step, but i cannot for the life of me figure out where. | 18:11 |
| geiseri_ | any ideas on my problem? | 19:15 |
| geiseri_ | what is really strange is i can run the tasksel command and it asks me to select the openssh server | 19:18 |
| geiseri_ | could the problem be in my preseed file? | 19:18 |
| geiseri_ | in reality i do not even want tasksel to run at all since i have a full package list i would rather have installed | 19:19 |
| vart | I am trying to use kernel set_memory_ro method from asm/cacheflush.h, but it fails when I am doing insmod, says "unknown symbol set_memory_ro", I am using ubuntu 9.04 | 19:32 |
| dtchen | TheMuso_: linus has merged the last of the stable 1.0.20 alsa-kernel bits. | 19:41 |
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| maxb | dtchen: Would you perhaps be able to suggest on what package I should report popping/crackling audio *only* when playing from DVDs (on karmic)? | 19:54 |
| dtchen | maxb: start with the player, and we'll triage from there | 19:56 |
| maxb | hmm, I have reproduced the same in totem and mplayer | 19:56 |
| dtchen | maxb: which output was mplayer using? | 19:56 |
| dtchen | (-ao pulse or -ao alsa?) | 19:57 |
| maxb | I tried it with -ao alsa and -ao pulse, it sounded the same in both cases | 19:57 |
| dtchen | then it's pulseaudio or lower | 19:57 |
| dtchen | i'd file one affecting pa | 19:57 |
| maxb | Ok, will do then, thanks | 19:58 |
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| geiseri_ | *sigh* this tasksel bug is driving me nuts, is there any documentation on how these things work beyond the stock debain installer information? | 20:21 |
| geiseri_ | it seems there are a few parts missing | 20:22 |
| geiseri_ | its seems that no matter what is in my preseed file it cannot find task minimal... and its not clear how these tasks are defined from what i can see | 20:23 |
| slangasek | jdstrand: how is launchpadlib supposed to launch your browser for the authentication callback? | 20:27 |
| slangasek | calc: well, gcj is already fixed now thanks to doko, so there's no reason to drop OOo-gcj as a quick-n-dirty workaround here. If it should be dropped on its own merits, then fine... | 20:29 |
| slangasek | calc: the libltdl7-dev thing was actually that the real libltdl7-dev package was still in the archive but uninstallable; now that it's NBSed out, things should build fine | 20:31 |
| james_w | slangasek: you can copy over an auth token just like we do with the cookie | 20:31 |
| slangasek | james_w: ah. well, AFAICS, that's the part that's been Not Working with syncbugbot anyway :) | 20:31 |
| james_w | true :-) | 20:31 |
| geiseri_ | is there a better channel to ask questions on how to customize the installer? | 20:34 |
| * ScottK thinks #ubuntu-installer exists. | 20:35 | |
| geiseri_ | its pretty dead in there | 20:35 |
| ScottK | !weekend | 20:36 |
| ubottu | It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 20:36 |
| geiseri_ | hmmm... is there any online documentation on the changes that ubuntu makes to the debian installer that i could look into? | 20:36 |
| geiseri_ | i am not finding the right google keywords it seems | 20:37 |
| a|wen | geiseri_: look in the changelog | 20:41 |
| geiseri_ | is there a package for the debian installer itself? | 20:42 |
| * a|wen would without looking guess at debian-installer | 20:42 | |
| geiseri_ | there is one afaik but i think its like simple-ccd or debian-cd, they are not ubuntufied | 20:43 |
| james_w | debian-installer is lots of packages | 20:43 |
| * geiseri_ will look again | 20:43 | |
| geiseri_ | i mean i didnt think what i was doing was that hard to do... all i needed was a cd that booted up and installed ubuntu onto a system with a set partition scheme, and package list... | 20:46 |
| a|wen | it is not the OEM option you are looking for? | 20:47 |
| geiseri_ | if it worked it would be close... the rub is im trying to add a few extra packages that are not on the base install | 20:48 |
| geiseri_ | it seems though when i change the package list all sorts of things break for non-obvious reasons | 20:48 |
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| calc | slangasek: yea i saw, i think i will just keep it around now | 20:57 |
| calc | slangasek: i'll be watching to see if it fails for any other reason and try to get it fixed in time for alpha 1 (tomorrow night is effectively freeze aiui) | 20:58 |
| * calc hopes the mass give back doesn't delay the alpha 1 release | 20:59 | |
| a|wen | calc: working boost1.35 :) | 21:00 |
| calc | several of the buildds have 400+ packages still left to build | 21:00 |
| a|wen | if anyone has time to sponsor some boost updates to get things into shape (working) again it would be nice :) most importantly bug 373962 and also bug 371617 | 21:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 373962 in boost1.35 "merge boost1.35 1.35.0-10 from debian unstable (main) - mpl headers not compiling" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373962 | 21:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 371617 in boost1.37 "Installs files to /build/buildd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371617 | 21:08 |
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| sveinung_ | Hello! I'm trying to get a fix for bug 345706 into Ubuntu main. This is the first time I have tried to get anything into Ubuntu main. | 21:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345706 in packagekit "CMake can't find QPackageKit by default" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345706 | 21:34 |
| sveinung_ | I have already done one mistake. (I assumed I needed permission from those responsible for the package before I could subscribe main sponsors) Could anyone check if I have done others? | 21:34 |
| sveinung_ | By the way: How long should a package be in Karmic before I can suggest a sru to jaunty? | 21:35 |
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| sveinung_ | anything I can do better (more details in the bug report etc) to increace the chanse of it getting in? | 21:38 |
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| TheMuso_ | dtchen: thanks for the heads up. | 23:03 |
| dtchen | it amuses me slightly that alsa-tools 1.0.20 lacks all the necessary autotools bits | 23:04 |
| dtchen | there's a gitcompile script...and nothing else. | 23:04 |
| dtchen | pitti: i'm afraid 345627 is going to have to be tagged verification-failed; even though linux-2.6.28-12.43-generic fixes the symptoms for some users, it presents an awesome regression for others. i feel it's better to live with known breakage than introduce a regression. | 23:06 |
| TheMuso_ | dtchen: heh well that shouldn't be a problem. | 23:09 |
| jdong | dtchen: that's a shame | 23:16 |
| jdong | it seemed to make audio a bit less blippy for me in skype under heavy load | 23:17 |
| jdong | maybe like all this other audio stuff it's placebo effect :) | 23:17 |
| dtchen | jdong: yeah, well, rock..hard place. | 23:17 |
| jdong | understood | 23:17 |
| dtchen | there's still so much more work to get the _drivers_ stable, much less upper parts of the stack. | 23:17 |
| jdong | I see | 23:19 |
| lifeless | IIRC 70+% of the bugs of linux [kernel] are in drivers | 23:20 |
| jdong | well that's probably where all the sloppy "quick get it out" coding happens. | 23:20 |
| jdong | and the long nights with coffee spent futzing with registers until something magically starts working. | 23:21 |
| lifeless | dtchen: does alsa-tools still use autoconf? | 23:21 |
| lifeless | dtchen: just doesn't ship configure? | 23:21 |
| TheMuso_ | lifeless: yes I would think so | 23:21 |
| lifeless | TheMuso_: so would I, I'm trying to be sure ;) | 23:21 |
| lifeless | TheMuso_: also, the ataraid list fails :) | 23:21 |
| TheMuso_ | lifeless: you're telling me. No response from upstream re your issue. | 23:22 |
| TheMuso_ | I can't help wondering whether they have abandoned dmraid for the new metadata support going into mdadm 3 or some such. | 23:22 |
| lifeless | if so it would be nice to TELL THEIR USERS | 23:22 |
| TheMuso_ | agreed | 23:22 |
| lifeless | anyhoo | 23:23 |
| dtchen | lifeless: it normally ships configure. however, it [1.0.20] only ships a one-line gitcompile script. it lacks Makefile.am, configure.ac, ... | 23:23 |
| dtchen | kinda fail. | 23:23 |
| lifeless | dtchen: wow | 23:23 |
| lifeless | TheMuso_: ^ file under assumptions :O | 23:23 |
| lifeless | TheMuso_: is danwood76 the debian maintaer of dmraid ? | 23:24 |
| TheMuso_ | lifeless: no | 23:24 |
| lifeless | who then - some random? | 23:25 |
| TheMuso_ | dtchen: I'd say 1.0.20a or some such will be out within days. | 23:25 |
| TheMuso_ | yeah | 23:25 |
| lifeless | TheMuso_: so I'll whip up a decoder for what appear to be magic bytes on my drives; will you be happy to apply that? | 23:27 |
| TheMuso_ | lifeless: Sure. I'd say the debian maintainer will be interested as well. I'll be committing it to Debian and karmic, then I'll SRU it for jaunty. | 23:27 |
| lifeless | cool | 23:28 |
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