[00:00] <MaGicMaX1> leOn: do i restart comp after? i installed it and it didnt work
[00:00] <funkyHat> !es | Gumersindo
[00:00] <kesiode> funkyHat, nope
[00:00] <kesiode> funkyHat, people just stopped talking to me :)
[00:00] <Gumersindo> me alegro
[00:00] <nerve_> hello everyone..
[00:00] <Gumersindo> cuantos frikis aqui
[00:01] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: no need to restart ..
[00:01] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: gimme a sec
[00:01] <Gumersindo> que te calles mamao
[00:01] <funkyHat> kesiode: if you open up the volume control window (click the volume icon in the panel and then click volume control
[00:01] <Scunizi> Gumersindo: 1400+
[00:01] <funkyHat> kesiode: then click on Preferences in that window
[00:01] <Gumersindo> me han dado 1400 puntos :O
[00:01] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: you're out of luck
[00:01] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/canon-lide-90.html
[00:01] <MaGicMaX1> leOn: i installed the 1.0.19-23ubuntu7 verison
[00:01]  * LadyNikon sighs
[00:01] <kesiode> funkyHat, ok
[00:01] <jrib> Gumersindo: english only here please.  Join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[00:02] <leOn> it's not supported
[00:02] <Gumersindo> que te calles mamao
[00:02] <Scunizi> !ops Gumersindo spanish swear words
[00:02] <Gumersindo> yo hablo español porque me da la gana
[00:02] <nerve_> I agree English only please..
[00:02] <Decinoge> english please
[00:02]  * LadyNikon lolz
[00:02] <utnubuuser> Thanks -- got it working.
[00:02] <MaGicMaX1> leOn: mine is the only scanner on the list? wow how lucky is that
[00:02] <Decinoge> i hear spanish all day, and it touches my balls already
[00:02] <LadyNikon> i think you all can stop saying him english only its not working
[00:02] <Gumersindo> mamaos estos de mierda
[00:02] <helper> usermod -l user login not working how the cmd written then ?
[00:02] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: hardly the only
[00:03] <jrib> Gumersindo: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:03] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/
[00:03] <chuck_> !sp
[00:03] <funkyHat> kesiode: check for Master, PCM, Front, External Amplifier, or anything else that looks like it could be related to sound output. make sure they are all ticked
[00:03] <bill102299> hey guys any way to get asterisk running on ubuntu 8.10? I have the .tar package unpacked to /home/bill102299/desktop/asterisk
[00:03] <Gumersindo> que yo me voy a donde me de la gana
[00:03] <Gumersindo> gilipollas
[00:03] <nerve_> Same here
[00:03] <Decinoge> i can translate
[00:03] <nerve_> may be we should learn Spanish
[00:03] <bill102299> hey guys any way to get asterisk running on ubuntu 8.10? I have the .tar package unpacked to /home/bill102299/desktop/asterisk
[00:03] <Decinoge> please, let me teach
[00:03] <nerve_> yeah sure
[00:03] <jrib> nerve_: you're free to speak spanish in #ubuntu-es
[00:03] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: when i bought mine i did some research first just to be sure
[00:03] <kesiode> funkyHat, ticked?  I see a bunch of devices in the pull down menu
[00:03] <ppk> Does anybody here have been successful in resolving X-Fi surround sound issues on 9.04?
[00:03] <Ag0X> lol
[00:03] <Decinoge> i'm portuguese so it would be a total shame for any spanish speaker
[00:04] <funkyHat> kesiode: then click close, make sure all the faders are not muted (no little x next to the speaker icon at the bottom)
[00:04] <nerve_> we will start with the foul language first
[00:04] <funkyHat> kesiode: no you didn't click preferences
[00:04] <nerve_> so that we can abuse
[00:04] <nerve_> ha ha
[00:04] <MaGicMaX1> leOn: so theres nothing i can do? :(
[00:04] <funkyHat> kesiode: click preferences (at the bottom) and then look
[00:04] <kesiode> funkyHat, found it, let me see
[00:04] <leOn> MaGicMaX1: you could enroll the sane devel team and write the driver =)
[00:05] <sapcio2> \oin  "|
[00:05] <leOn> Decinoge: where from?
[00:05] <Decinoge> portugal
[00:05] <leOn> Decinoge: from?
[00:05] <nerve_> Decinoge: we are waiting
[00:05] <ryanprior> nerve_: Some of us do speak Spanish, and we told him to go to the Spanish channel.
[00:05] <MaGicMaX1> leOn: i would if i could :P
[00:06] <nerve_> I was just joking man don't draw your guns
[00:06] <Decinoge> Portugal
[00:06] <leOn> nerve_: http://translate.google.com/
[00:06] <keith> !br
[00:06] <Decinoge> oh the spanich?
[00:06] <Decinoge> oh
[00:06] <keith> :p
[00:06] <leOn> Decinoge: be a bit more specific please
[00:06] <nerve_> I was kidding people.
[00:06] <xabierf> Hello
[00:06] <Decinoge> gillipollas: just imagine every insult you can, and its put it in a word... that's it
[00:06] <kesiode> funkyHat, much better, thanks!!
[00:06] <bill102299> hey guys any way to get asterisk running on ubuntu 8.10? I have the .tar package unpacked to /home/bill102299/desktop/asteriskplease tell me the commands to type into the alt+ctrl+F1 screen.
[00:06] <Monie> nvidia drivers don't work for x64 ubuntu, does it?
[00:06] <funkyHat> kesiode: great :)
[00:06] <Decinoge> you want specific? That piece of peninsula the spanich were unable to conquer... cause their balls were not big enough
[00:07] <Scunizi> bill102299: asterisk is in the repos I believe.. no need to download the .tar
[00:07] <Slart> Monie: sure they do
[00:07] <xabierf> I've a problem with my old Toshiba Satellite Pro 4300 Lapto
[00:07] <keith> gcc takes forever to compile... :(
[00:07] <xabierf> someone private?
[00:07] <c0ntract0r> Can anyone help me get sound from an ES1371 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[00:07] <Scunizi> Monie: there is a 64 bit version.. I think 180.44 but you have to get it direct from nvidia
[00:07] <Decinoge> gcc is sweet ;__; dont talk bad things of it
[00:07] <jrib> keith: compiles hello world pretty quick
[00:07] <leOn> Decinoge: i know where portugal is .. =P ... was curious about location .. inside portugal
[00:07] <Scunizi> Monie: they might even have a 180.5x version
[00:07] <keith> jrib: Oh, no... I am compiling gcc.
[00:08] <Decinoge> AAAAH... that?
[00:08] <jrib> keith: oh
[00:08] <Decinoge> well... Famalicão
[00:08] <funkyHat> xabierf: best to ask in the channel, more people will see so it's more likely someone will know the answer
[00:08] <leOn> Decinoge: nortenho =)
[00:08] <jrib> Decinoge, leOn: could you move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic please, it's not really support-related
[00:08] <Decinoge> bastante :P
[00:08] <Decinoge> sorry \o
[00:09] <keith> jrib: I decided to give LFS a whirl, but I am getting bored just waiting for gcc to finish compiling. It really makes you appreciate the simple install process in Ubuntu.
[00:09] <bill102299> sorry, I didn't get that. please type again?
[00:09] <leOn> jrib: sure .. my bad
[00:09] <somnolence> the sis190 driver isn't working for me
[00:09] <funkyHat> keith: don't sit and wait then, just accept that the project will take you a few days and do something else while you're waiting :)
[00:10] <leOn> well .. having so much #ubuntu-something channels .. could i sugest an #ubuntu-desktop and an #ubuntu-server ?
[00:10] <glicks> hey whats the default journaling mode for ext3 in jaunty?
[00:10] <keith> funkyHat: I am impatient though. I am hoping staring at it will make it go faster.
[00:10] <glicks> fstab doesn seem to list one
[00:10] <natalie_> Can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu crashes every time I log out
[00:10] <jrib> leOn: #ubuntu-server already exists...
[00:10] <leOn> ahhh
[00:10] <w30> Monie, I thing you have to have 64 bit drivers but I have two 64 bit machines running Nvidia propriatory 3d and Compiz
[00:10] <leOn> that's nice
[00:10] <bill102299> if you don't help me, I'll just buy support this time. open support isn't the best.
[00:11] <leOn> i think i'll go there and nagg people about xen
[00:11] <leOn> jrib: thanks for the tip
[00:11] <|Monie|> Scunizi you say anything else? connection pinged
[00:11] <bill102299> if you don't help me, I'll just buy support this time. open support isn't the best /quit going to buy support
[00:11] <jrib> bill102299: asterisk is in the repositories.  Use APT
[00:11] <keith> If I make copies of initrd.img-2.6.28-11-generic and vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic and make a new grub entry to point to them, will that work correctly?
[00:11] <jrib> bill102299: though frankly, you should work on your attitude
[00:12] <funkyHat> bill102299: Just had a look at your question, try this, sudo aptutude install asterisk
[00:12] <eseven73> funkyHat, you spelled aptitude wrong
[00:12] <funkyHat> ahaha
[00:12] <eseven73> ;)
[00:13] <funkyHat> bill102299: except I spelled aptitude wrong
[00:13] <funkyHat> "aptertude"
[00:13] <helper> how to limit the user time usermod -e moe 2009-05-15 not working :(
[00:13] <natalie_> Can anyone help me figure out why my x-session crashes every time I log out
[00:13] <keith> funkyHat: You noticed he left, right? :-D
[00:14] <keith> funkyHat: and back.
[00:14] <eseven73> keith, you spoke too soon
[00:14] <eseven73> lol
[00:14] <funkyHat> hehe
[00:14] <keith> eseven73: Story of my life.
[00:14] <funkyHat> natalie_: which version of Ubuntu, and which graphics card do you have?
[00:14] <natalie_> funkyHat:  I am using 8.10 and I have an ATI card with the proprietary driver running
[00:15] <Skizoboy> I feel 4u natalie
[00:15] <Skizoboy> :(
[00:15] <funkyHat> natalie_: that is probably the cause of your problem. I had similar issues. If you can, try out the 9.04 live CD, most ATi cards are much better supported in Jaunty
[00:15] <zealiod> does anyone know anything about getting ubuntu on a pendrive using a mac?
[00:16] <natalie_> funkyHat:  will I be able to keep my wine settings if I try and install clean?
[00:16] <keith> zealiod: Is there a reason you can't boot from a livecd and do it?
[00:16] <funkyHat> natalie_: but always best to try it out just to make sure it will actually improve things
[00:16] <keith> Will making a copy of the initrd and vmlinuz files and making a new grub entry point to them work correctly?
[00:16] <obz> server irc.gigachat.net
[00:16] <zealiod> keith: no cd drive on the destination device
[00:16] <funkyHat> natalie_: yes, if you back them up first, or if you have your /home on a separate partition you could do a fresh install without wiping /home
[00:16] <alybabe356> hello
[00:16] <zealiod> keith: just using my mac to create a usb bootable thingy...
[00:16] <Scunizi> funkyHat: ATI has some issues in Jaunty because of the new x.org system.. ATI's new catelist driver supports the newer cards but has left out many of the older cards that work on 8.10
[00:17] <c0ntract0r> My asoundconf list does not show a sound card available, why?
[00:17] <funkyHat> Scunizi: that's why I suggested testing the live CD first to see if it will actually help
[00:17] <keith> But you can use a mac to boot from a live cd and install to a flash drive, no?
[00:17] <javyn> hey.  do i need to unmount my usb joypad before i unplug it or something?
[00:17] <natalie_> funkyHat:  thank you. I will burn a copy of 9.04 and see how it runs.
[00:17] <Scunizi> funkyHat: ah.. missed that part..
[00:17] <jaturawit> q
[00:17] <keith> zealiod: But you can use a mac to boot from a live cd and install to a flash drive, no
[00:18] <zealiod> keith: well, what i am wanting to achieve is this: use a pen drive to install ubuntu on a pc device that has no cd...
[00:18] <javyn> hey.  do i need to unmount my usb joypad before i unplug it or something?
[00:18] <alybabe356> why does my webcam show crappy pictures on my Ubuntu Sylvania Netbook?
[00:18] <javyn> this is a very serious matter
[00:19] <javyn> me first alybabe356
[00:19] <funkyHat> natalie_: all of your Wine stuff (including the programs) is kept in .wine in your home directory, so you can make a tarball of that and put it on a CD, and just extract it again after you've reinstalled and all of your wine apps will be just the same.
[00:19] <keith> zealiod: Ubuntu has an option to install to a USB drive and will set it up like a live cd so you can use it to install from.
[00:19] <zealiod> i will look at this thanks
[00:19] <funkyHat> natalie_: but upgrading will probably work fine, so I'd try that first (after backing up .wine, if it's important)
[00:19] <mirzam> Q: I ran ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop (a simple 1.6ghz 512mb ram machine) and it ran it like a champ, ever since I switched to jaunty it uses wayyyy too much ram (90% of physical ram and 75% of swap with maybe one or two things going)
[00:19] <mirzam> I've used top and so forth to check it out and the used ram simply isnt listed
[00:20] <keith> zealiod: It is under System->Administration->USB...
[00:20] <ror> mirzam, is it possible that compiz or other desktop effects have been enabled?
[00:20] <funkyHat> natalie_: (first after testing the live CD I mean of course)
[00:20] <mirzam> yea compiz is enabled, but like I said, I ran compiz wide open with 8.10, and I actually tuned it down a bit when I upgraded
[00:21] <ror> System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects. Set to none (or normal at most) for that machine
[00:21] <natalie_> funkyHat:  I already have /home on a different partition, so I should be okay
[00:21] <alybabe356> anyone want to chat? add me on AIM alybabe356 thanx.<3
[00:22] <mirzam> heh, thanks anyway, turning stuff off isnt the answer to everything though, it ran compiz well with 8.10, theres a bug going on there somewhere.
[00:22] <helper> can i let all pc's (ubuntu's pc ) to be under my control as administrator like all ubuntu's user as client and mine as server ?
[00:23] <funkyHat> natalie_: sorry if I was being patronising then! Just make sure you pick the right partitions when you're installing (I was helping someone the other day who got it wrong *twice*)
[00:23] <ror> well yeah, but what I mean is some of the compiz plugins have changed and what's default etc
[00:23] <ror> oh he quit :(
[00:23] <reid> how do I reset $LogFile?   (I forced a mount of an ntfs drive that was "uncleanly shutdown") =P
[00:23] <jdu> helper: yes, but it may depend on exactly what you mean.  Ubuntu supports LTSP that would allow a server client relationship.
[00:23] <reid> ubuntu told me to reset $LogFile *shrug*
[00:24] <jdu> helper: you can also always log in and administer remote computers
[00:24] <helper> jdu, is there any link can show me how ? can teach me
[00:24] <c0ntract0r> What does this mean ?   from  users-admin CRITICAL **: Unable to lookup session information for process '8230'
[00:25] <hypercity> how can y start gdm from comand line with metacity instead of compiz window manager?
[00:25] <jdu> helper: for the remote login part? or ltsp?
[00:25] <jdu> helper: http://ltsp.org/
[00:26] <wers> how do i install compiz plugins? i want scale window title filter
[00:26] <jdu> helper: for remote login (and administration), google ssh
[00:27] <helper> jdu, u mean login remotely via terminal using ssh ?
[00:27] <funkyHat> wers: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:27] <jdu> helper: yes.  But you can forward graphical programs through it.
[00:27] <VCoolio> c0ntract0r: in terminal check what process is meant: ps -ef | grep 8230
[00:27] <wers> funkyHat, i already have it
[00:28] <c0ntract0r> VCoolie, is it pts?
[00:28] <funkyHat> wers: so open it, find the plugin and tick enable. or perhaps you need to install compiz-fusion-plugins-{extra,main,unsupported}
[00:29] <funkyHat> wers: most likely not unsupported though
[00:29] <VCoolio> c0ntract0r: the process? never heard of. the command I gave is correct
[00:29] <wers> funkyHat, the plugin still isnt installed. i already installed all those packages
[00:29] <wers> can you look at ccsm if you have the plugin by default?
[00:29] <c0ntract0r> VCoolio yes the command is, it shows   1000      8525  8507  0 19:29 pts/0    00:00:00 grep 8230
[00:30] <VCoolio> c0ntract0r: sorry, understood
[00:30] <Shockrates> what was the other channel?
[00:30] <pascualcm> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me out, im trying to run a few commands,  and when I run "apt-get install mysqldb" y get Couldn't Find package.
[00:30] <Shockrates> for ubuntu?
[00:30] <VCoolio> c0ntract0r: no, that is the command you just typed in. Was that the only line?
[00:30] <c0ntract0r> yes.
[00:30] <gartral> how can i make a private keyfile for my system? i tried ~/.ssh && ssh keygen -t dsa && ssh keygen -t rsa && cat id_dsa_pub id_rsa_pub > authorized_keys and it says ssh: connect to host keygen port 22: No route to host
[00:30] <gartral> oops
[00:30] <funkyHat> wers: yeah I have it
[00:30] <gartral> disregard ^
[00:30] <Shockrates> what was the other channel for ubuntu? support and chat or something
[00:30] <Shockrates> ?
[00:30] <VCoolio> c0ntract0r: than the process does no longer exist. No worries then
[00:30] <c0ntract0r> :) awesome thank you
[00:31] <helper> jdu, using LTSP , client would be under my administrator? so no root for them >?
[00:31] <funkyHat> !offtopic | Shockrates
[00:31] <c0ntract0r> VCoolio you wouldn't happen to know how to fix a problem where asoundconf list shows no available sound cards would ya?   ess1371
[00:31] <pascualcm> I run "apt-get install mysqldb" y get Couldn't Find package.
[00:31] <wers> funkyHat, this is odd. i don't remember uninstalling anything. in what folder can i find those plugins?
[00:31] <Shockrates> bruce89
[00:31] <balingup> Hi, can anyone help me open (mount) my jetflash USB?
[00:31] <VCoolio> c0ntract0r: sorry, no, saw your question but no
[00:32] <funkyHat> wers: /usr/share/compiz
[00:32] <pascualcm> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me out, im trying to run a few commands,  and when I run "apt-get install mysqldb" y get Couldn't Find package.
[00:33] <stumped> hi does anyone know about dvd rom drives?
[00:33] <wers> funkyHat, the what's the name of the window title filter xml? i can't see a scalewindowtitlefilter.xml here
[00:33] <c0ntract0r> how can i get alsaconf?
[00:33] <jdu> helper: by default yes.  You could add them as root though.
[00:33] <funkyHat> wers: scalefilter.xml looks like it, it belongs to compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[00:34] <server2> hi
[00:34] <jdu> helper: actually, you can remove sudo rights from users of any regular computer and create an administrator account for yourself to use remotely with ssh
[00:34] <nevada1920> hi
[00:34] <vix1> i am looking to add a splashimage to my grub i need to add the line : splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz where in the grub do i add it ??
[00:34] <pascualcm> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me out, im trying to run a few commands,  and when I run "apt-get install mysqldb" y get Couldn't Find package.
[00:34] <helper> jdu, interesting
[00:34] <wers> funkyHat, i already have that package installed :( anyway, can you send me the xml? :D maybe through pastebin or something
[00:35] <funkyHat> wers: hm, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:35] <vix1> pascualcm: try apt-get install mysql
[00:35] <funkyHat> wers: I think there is another file that makes up the plugin, not just the .xml
[00:35] <wers> funkyHat, i'm on jaunty 64
[00:36] <funkyHat> pascualcm: you probably want mysql-server
[00:36] <Mike94287> I just installed a program called Gambatte through a .deb package, however I don't know how to start up the program. Can anyone help?
[00:36] <balingup> Hi, I need some help mounting a trancend USB stick
[00:36] <vix1> pascualcm: aptitude search mysql
[00:37] <jdu> helper: look into system => admin => users and groups   for user configuration such as whether a user can run sudo.
[00:37] <jdu> Mike94287: you can prabably type:  gambatte    at the command prompt.  Did it not appear in the menus?
[00:37] <helper> jdu, what i mean i want to put like server a group policies for user can't run sudo blah blah and the client connect to my server having these policies automatic
[00:38] <funkyHat> wers: there is also /usr/lib/compiz/libscalefilter.* which won't be compatible from my system to yours, as I'm on 32 bit
[00:38] <Mike94287> jdu: I tried that, and no it's not under the menus.
[00:38] <funkyHat> wers: try purging and reinstalling the package
[00:38] <dn4> where can I get a version of wine that is greater than 1.0.1
[00:38] <jdu> Mike94287: did you check where it was installed.  Perhaps it is not in your path or it is not called that once installed.
[00:38] <wers> funkyHat, thank you very much :)
[00:39] <Ria_ch_> hello :-)
[00:39] <billybigrigger> dn4, there is instructions on the wine website for adding the wine repo to ubuntu
[00:39] <funkyHat> wers: working now?
[00:39] <billybigrigger> dn4, then it stays up to date when you do an apt-get update
[00:39] <dn4> billybigrigger: does it work for jaunty ?
[00:39] <wers> funkyHat, still purging :D
[00:40] <Ria_ch_> Can somebody help me with GRUB error 17
[00:40] <Ria_ch_> Ü
[00:40] <hhp2k1> Hey everyone.  Is there a dedicated room for the program Tilda?
[00:41] <jdu> helper: if the clients are always going to be in the same network, perhaps ltsp is what you want then.  ltsp builds a client image of client os on the server.  The clients boot off the network and all their files are stored on the server.  The configuration can be defined on the server, because in reality, the clients are on the server.
[00:41] <Mike94287> jdu: I found it, it was put into /usr/bin
[00:41] <billybigrigger> dn4, yes
[00:41] <stumped> i need help getting u9.04 to read both cd's and dvd's from my liteon dvdrom drive
[00:41] <jdu> Mike94287: then it should be working.
[00:41] <Ria_ch_> Please, can somebody help me with GRUB error 17?
[00:42] <stumped> it knows what it is
[00:42] <johnb003> hey there are a few cable box STBs that work in linux, dct 6200 is one of them.  It's simply a firewire interface block device, but I'm wondering if someone can do me a big favor and look up the code that communicates with the device.  I'm writing a driver for windows.
[00:42] <stumped> but will not read anything i put into it
[00:42] <jdu> Ria_ch_: I forget, but is that where grub is /boot is too far from the beginning of the hard drive because you have an old bios
[00:42] <hlfshell> so Ctr + alt + backspace used to be reset X for me - after updating to 9.04 that shortcut stopped working. Did the shortcut change? How do I make it so that is restart x?
[00:42] <jdu> ?
[00:42] <wers> funkyHat, apparently, i have a ppa version of the package. it's a good thing that i didnt authenticate the ppa. ha! hehe
[00:42] <jdu> * grub in /boot
[00:43] <VCoolio> hlfshell: you need to add something to xorg.conf, wait, I'll paste it for you
[00:43] <hlfshell> thanks VCoolio
[00:43] <jdu> hlfshell: it was disabled in 9.04
[00:43] <helper> jdu,  i see and the client how i can let him connect as client to server ? when i install ubuntu there i can config it ?
[00:43] <hlfshell> wheres xorg.conf? /etc/?
[00:43] <TimeWaster2> hi
[00:43] <balingup> Hi, can anyone help with opening a USB flash drive? its my main one and it wont work on 8.1 or 9.04
[00:44] <bcmorr2> hlfshell: I thought it was in ~/
[00:44] <jdu> helper: with ltsp, the bios is setup to boot off the server.
[00:44] <VCoolio> hlfshell: paste this in /etc/X11/xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/168203/
[00:44] <jdu> helper: install ubuntu on the server using the ltsp option of the alternate cd
[00:44] <bcmorr2> hlfshell: i'm sorry, that was my wm config, I think it's in /etc/X11
[00:44] <hlfshell> thanks VCoolio .
[00:45] <Jeremified> Can somebody name an inexpensive HD sound card that works with Jaunty out-of-the-box?
[00:45] <VCoolio> hlfshell: it won't work until next time you log in of course
[00:45] <bcmorr2> i've just used aptitude to install dosbox and when trying to run the command I get the error that it doesn't exist
[00:45] <hlfshell> i figured. thanks VCoolio
[00:45] <helper> jdu, ya i check it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[00:45] <Jeremified> The one I have at the moment is an Intel HD, and it doesn't work with Jaunty at all (I've spent a week trying to get it to work).
[00:46] <helper> jdu, but i mean this is the server install ,and client how ?
[00:46] <yoyoned> bcmorr2: the comand to launch it may not be dosbox
[00:46] <wers> funkyHat, what's your version of the -extras package? i have 0.8.2-0ubuntu.12
[00:46] <yoyoned> bcmorr2: look in the menu
[00:46] <bcmorr2> yoyoned: when compiled from source it is, I wouldn't know how to figure out what else it could be, I can't even find a directory for it in /usr/local/bin
[00:46] <bcmorr2> yoyoned: what menu?
[00:47] <funkyHat> wers: 0.8.2-0ubuntu1
[00:47] <yoyoned> bcmorr2: did you install from source or use apt
[00:47] <bcmorr2> yoyoned: apt
[00:47] <funkyHat> wers: sounds like the ppa is the problem, I'd remove it and install the regular version
[00:48] <wers> funkyHat, synaptic tells me that the version i had is from a ppa but i cant tell which ppa it is. any idea how i can determine?
[00:48] <wers> i already forced the version from the official repo but i dont know if this will still upgrade from the repo funkyHat
[00:48] <eseven73> how can I check if mod_rewrite is enabled? I don't think it's working because a few link plugins that require it in wordpress don't seem to be working, its Ubuntu related because im hosting the site on Ubuntu Server Edition so don't tell me go to #wordpress im already there anyways :P
[00:48] <yoyoned> bcmorr2: I'm going to install it and see where the files go. Hang on a minute
[00:48] <jdu> helper: well, with ltsp, the clients require no config except at the bios level.  They are totally configured on the server.  Nothing even needs to be installed on the cliets.
[00:49] <bcmorr2> yoyoned: I just apt-get remove
[00:49] <jlaroche> Can someone please help me get my sound working in Ubuntu 9.04 64bit. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 4. Everything was working perfectly and then two days ago I turned on the system and all the sound was dead. My speakers are plugged in fine. I could really use some assistance as sound related issues in Ubuntu are horrendously unfriendly/complicated/convoluted, etc.
[00:49] <bcmorr2> yoyoned: and resinstalled and it's there
[00:49] <bcmorr2> yoyoned: no idea what changed?
[00:49] <helper> jdu, aha gr8
[00:50] <emanuel__> hello
[00:50] <yoyoned> bcmorr2: I just installed it and it put in in /usr/bin
[00:50] <eseven73> jlaroche, lol wait till you have graphic driver issues
[00:50] <eseven73> to me that's the worse
[00:50] <eseven73> worst*
[00:50] <jlaroche> eseven73 I have.... some than once... fixed them every time
[00:50] <bcmorr2> yoyoned: hmm, ok thanks
[00:51] <matrixblue> Hey, sometimes my system go black then suddenly goes back to the login screen. This has only happened when I had video open. I'm using Jaunty with Open Source divers
[00:51] <emanuel__> 	
[00:51] <emanuel__> as I enter the chat argentina
[00:51] <emanuel__> ???
[00:51] <FloodBot3> emanuel__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:51] <Jeremified> Can someone answer my question? All I need to know is the name of a sound card that works with Jaunty.
[00:51] <emanuel__> 	
[00:51] <emanuel__> as I enter the chat argentina
[00:51] <Roseenet> hi everybody i want to configure a file server in  ubuntu server 9.04
[00:51] <jlaroche> eseven73 but this is getting ridiculous... windows is closed and bs, but at least I'm not working on my system to get basic things in order every single day
[00:51] <Jeremified> Roseenet: ftp?
[00:51] <jlaroche> Can someone please help me get my sound working in Ubuntu 9.04 64bit. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 4. Everything was working perfectly and then two days ago I turned on the system and all the sound was dead. My speakers are plugged in fine. I could really use some assistance as sound related issues in Ubuntu are horrendously unfriendly/complicated/convoluted, etc.
[00:51] <erUSUL> !ar | emanuel__
[00:52] <Roseenet> Jeremified: all
[00:52] <jdu> helper: in my experience, ltsp works really well, although a network failure can be a pain, because the clients rely on the network to do anything.  The clients are also not going to be able to do things like high fps games.
[00:52] <emanuel__> thanks
[00:52] <eseven73> jlaroche, well I don't know what Id do without these fine folks in here, Id prolly just go back to windows, so hang in there someone will help you soon im sure :)
[00:52] <yoyoned> !alsa|jlaroche
[00:52] <jlaroche> thanks so much
[00:53] <helper> jdu, aha
[00:53] <eseven73> jlaroche, I do know a dirty trick that you might have tried already, sudo alsa force-reload  (make sure you set everything to ALSA in sound settings first though)
[00:53] <Jeremified> Roseenet: Not sure I can help with anything but ftp, might want to try finding someone else if you're looking for more file access than that
[00:54] <yoyoned> !nfs|Roseenet:
[00:54] <jlaroche> k
[00:54] <yoyoned> !samba|Roseenet
[00:54] <chuck_> Jeremified, try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[00:54] <c0ntract0r> Can anyone help me ? asoundconf list doesn't show my sound card
[00:54] <Jeremified> chuck_: thanks
[00:55] <chuck_> Jeremified, your welcome
[00:56] <jdu> helper: then again, to add a new computer, simply plug it in to the network, perhaps add a new user.
[00:57] <Schoengen> Hello
[00:57] <Roseenet> ubottu: thank you i want to configure a server for my reseau , so i installed the print server now i want to configure a file server ,backup,dns...
[00:57] <helper> jdu,  i'll try by tomorrow now it's 3:00 am lol  maybe tomorrow if i find you online tell you :D everything :P
[00:58] <jdu> helper: probably. about this time or later
[00:59] <jdu> helper: then again, I may be really busy tomorrow.
[00:59] <MrBoss> someone use autocad?
[00:59] <helper> jdu, someday than :D i'll meet u again :P
[00:59] <Dillizar> how can i mount a usb that doesnt mount on its own
[01:00] <jdu> Dillizar: sudo mount -t vfat <dev> <mount point>
[01:01] <jdu> Dillizar: assuming it has fat of course.
[01:01] <Dillizar> jdu, for dev i need to put just the name of it from lsusb
[01:01] <jdu> Dillizar: probably dev would be something like /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdc1
[01:01] <Schoengen> can anyone give me some advice on setting up my nVidia drivers?
[01:02] <wers> does the "partner" repo include the compiz ppa? i dont know how i got that compiz ppa in my sources.list
[01:02] <keith> jdu: Wouldn't it be better to let it autodetect the fs type?
[01:02] <vertagano> Schoengen: Do you have a specific problem or question?
[01:02] <jdu> keith: probably, as long as it does
[01:03] <Schoengen> Ok, so I upgraded to ubuntu 9.04 and as soon as i restarted the drivers failed
[01:03] <Iceman_B|SSH> close
[01:03] <Schoengen> I disabled them then tried a few different versions all with the same result
[01:03] <jdu> Dillizar: rather, it will need to be a device name like /dev/sdb1  You probably don't need to specify a type like Dillizar said.
[01:03] <jdu> Dillizar: I mean like keith said
[01:03] <vertagano> Schoengen: When I upgraded to 9.04, I had to change to the nVidia 180 drivers. When you say, "failed", what do you mean?
[01:03] <Schoengen> I tried installing EnvyNG and it won't update my drivers
[01:04] <Schoengen> Envy says the headers for my kernel are missing
[01:04] <jdu> Dillizar: have to go.  man mount
[01:04] <matrixblue> Hey, sometimes my system go black then suddenly goes back to the login screen. This has only happened when I had video open. I'm using Jaunty with Open Source drivers
[01:04] <Dillizar> jdu non of them exist
[01:04] <matrixblue> anyone know how to at least identify what makes it crash?
[01:05] <matju> how do i autodetect the soundcard? i mean force re-autodetection.
[01:05] <Schoengen> I tried doing an xfix with no improovement
[01:05] <milo_> did you update?
[01:05] <Dillizar> jdu its MTP mp3 player
[01:05] <vertagano> matrixblue: ARe you familiar with the logs in /var/log ?
[01:06] <matrixblue> vertagano, yeah not sure which log is the correct one to check
[01:06] <vertagano> Schoengen: I've never used anythign but the Hardware Drivers menu to setup my nVidia card.
[01:06] <vertagano> matrixblue: A good place to start is the syslog.
[01:06] <matrixblue> vertagano, thanks
[01:06] <Schoengen> Sry verrtagano, I'm looking for the msg that I got from my drivers the first time
[01:07] <gartral> Dillizar: what modle?
[01:07] <gartral> model*
[01:07] <Dillizar> Gogear 6230 gardar
[01:07] <teapot> Hey guys. Can anyone help me get AndroMote working with XBMC?
[01:07] <Dillizar> Gogear 6230 gartral
[01:08] <ExElNeT> hi, how can i change the resolution of my screen correctly? im trying to spawn a new xserver with a 640x480 resolution but it doesnt work corrently... the res seems to be 640x480 but i can scroll past the visible desktop into black space... any idea how to avoid that?
[01:08] <teapot> It is on the list of supported renderers and servers. http://andromote.de/
[01:08] <teapot> It uses UPnP to stream media between the client and the server.
[01:09] <thadoood> hello all , how do i install from a tar.bz2 archive
[01:09] <thadoood> im trying to upgrade ardour 2.3 in ubuntu studio to 2.8
[01:09] <Brutus> hello all, I am very new to ubuntu and I cannot get my sound running, can someone please help me?
[01:09] <Mark_vH> hi o/
[01:10] <matrixblue> What does this May  9 19:39:00 matrixblue-laptop acpid: client 4258[0:0] has disconnected mean?
[01:10] <vertagano> Brutus: No sound at all? Do you have a volume control?
[01:10] <Mark_vH> is it possible to have hardware acceleration over an X tunnel?
[01:10] <VCoolio> thadoood: extract somewhere, navigate in terminal to folder, then first ./configure then make then sudo make install
[01:11] <thadoood> ok thanks VCoolio
[01:11] <gartral> Dillizar: looks like a related problem with gphoto, holdon, ill make repair easy on you
[01:11] <bcmorr2> Brutus: what sound card do you have?
[01:11] <matrixblue> sorry, I meant this May  9 19:38:31 matrixblue-laptop gdm[2578]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[01:11] <VCoolio> thadoood: start by extracting and then see if there is a text file inside to explain further
[01:11] <Brutus> I have a IBM Thinkpad r50e
[01:11] <thadoood> ok
[01:11] <teapot> I've enabled UPnP in the router's configuration but XBMC still isn't being picked up by the phone and both are connected to the wireless network.
[01:11] <Dillizar> gartral, now??
[01:11] <bcmorr2> Brutus, goto a term windo and type alsamixer
[01:12] <Brutus> I don't know how to find that information out bcmorr2
[01:12] <Brutus> ok
[01:12] <glicks> does evolution stay open in the status bar when you close it?
[01:12] <gartral> Dillizar: yea, its a simple repair
[01:12] <glicks> what about thunderbird?
[01:12] <Dillizar> k
[01:12] <kj4> khello everyone
[01:12] <RB2> Anyone familiar with bug 352485 or 364965 ??
[01:13] <RB2> nVidia driver issue that's been around since 8.10
[01:13] <Dillizar> gartral, all i need is MTPFS
[01:13] <SeligArkin> Ok, my laptop screen is dimming on me even with the dim on idle off, and its getting very annoying, any way I can lock the brightness setting? i know I had it locked before but I think I broke the lock when I manualy turned it down for a bit
[01:13] <Dillizar> !MTPFS
[01:13] <gartral> Dillizar: take the text from http://gar.pastebin.com/f6511105 and overwrite /usr/share/hal/fdi/preprobe/10osvendor/20-libgphoto2.fdi with it, and restart hal
[01:14] <leo_rockway> hello, anybody wants to volunteer to test something for me on Jaunty?
[01:14] <gartral> Dillizar: remember to save a copy of your "untouched" one
[01:14] <Linuz2009> I want to make mu ubuntu faster without editing my system files
[01:14] <slestak> I wantto run an arbitrary script when I connect to a particular access point (settin an ipaddress for a server i need)
[01:14] <Dillizar> gartral, and i will be able to mount my player?
[01:14] <VCoolio> leo_rockway: depends. specify
[01:14] <Greed> so I attempted to re-install grub after installing windows but windows still loads up
[01:14] <RB2> I apologize, bug 364965 isn't related.
[01:14] <slestak> can that be done in the /etc/networking/interfaces
[01:14] <leo_rockway> VCoolio: install python-qt and see if importing it works.
[01:15] <gartral> Dillizar: if it's related to what i ran into, yes
[01:15] <Guest77816> is it possible to mount bt6 images
[01:15] <RB2> Greed: I found a great app to fix that, let me see if I can find it
[01:15] <VCoolio> leo_rockway: qt would be kde, I'm on gnome
[01:15] <kj4> Linuz2009, i heard you can call up your electric utility company and get them to put you on 130v service and everything will run a little faster
[01:15] <Dillizar> ok gartral lemme try it
[01:15] <leo_rockway> VCoolio: ok, thanks anyway
[01:15] <slestak> kj4: lol, overclock you house.
[01:16] <slestak> s/you/your
[01:16] <kj4> slestak, yep-  it makes me get up 40 minutes earlier too
[01:16] <Greed> RB2: if you could make this easier.. it would be great.. Ive tried a couple times without any luck
[01:16] <RB2> Greed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:16] <Guest77816> is it possible to mount bt6 cd images on linux
[01:16] <Greed> RB2: yeah I followed the first set of instructions on that page
[01:17] <RB2> Greed: use Super Grub Disk, I put it on a USB drive and booted off of that
[01:17] <jlaroche> Hello everyone... same Sound Problems persisting
[01:17] <Linuz2009> kj4: I found this command online and I want you to see if this command will help speed things up $  sudo cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[01:17] <Greed> RB2: I will have to try that
[01:17] <billw> i have a broadcom 4306 rev 3 wireless caqrd that is saying it is disabled .... how do i enable it
[01:17] <Greed> RB2: what options did you select in Super Grub Disk?
[01:17] <jlaroche> Could anyone explain why running the following command would remove xchat and wireshark from my system? sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[01:17] <Linuz2009> kj4: this command was used to swap disk space not RAM
[01:17] <RB2> Greed: I just chose Automatic for all the options.. when I tried to out-smart it, I usually just screwed it up more. LOL
[01:17] <slestak> billw: does yourlaptop have a hardware switch for wifi?  some do
[01:18] <SeligArkin> Anybody? This is really getting annoying having to turn the brightness back up every minute
[01:18] <slestak> can that be done in the /etc/networking/interfaces
[01:18] <slestak> I wantto run an arbitrary script when I connect to a particular access point (settin an ipaddress for a server i need)
[01:18] <SeligArkin> It even dims if I am currently typing or moving the mouse
[01:18] <billw> slestak, not that i have seen
[01:18] <SeligArkin> slestak: yes it can
[01:18] <RB2> Greed: this was a while ago, so I don't remember exactly what the options were called.
[01:18] <SeligArkin> slestak: pre-up <script-name> or up <scriptname>
[01:18] <slestak> SeligArkin: did this occur before jaunty, or just start?
[01:18] <SeligArkin> where script-name is the ful path to the script you want to run
[01:18] <billw> slestak, i looked for a switch and didnt see one
[01:19] <SeligArkin> slestak: it happened when I upgraded to the newest version
[01:19] <slestak> billw: is it internal nic, or pcmcia?
[01:19] <ncfi1013> why can't i delete/load songs to/from my ipod in amarok 2?
[01:19] <jlaroche> could anyone help me get my sound working
[01:19] <billw> slestak, internal
[01:19] <kj4> Linuz2009, what are the specs on your machine?
[01:19] <DG19075> Here's a question for those who connect with wireless cards: Do they go bad from voltage spikes ? My Netgear WG311 has been performing flawlessly up to a few days ago. I enter the passphrase-128 bit WEP-but get no connection even though the router is properly configured. Running 9.04 here...
[01:19] <slestak> SeligArkin: strange, has to be related to acpid doesnt it?
[01:19] <me> irc.bitspyder.net:6667 #bitspyder
[01:20] <SeligArkin> slestak: I don't remember, I know I had it fixed, don't remember how, but its not fixed anymore, and it is driving my bonkers
[01:20] <SeligArkin> I partly think it was a fn key combo but I can't find any reference to one to lock the brightness
[01:20] <slestak> SeligArkin: did you have to fix it when yu went upto 8.10, and just lost your fix?
[01:20] <thadoood> VCoolio: im still having trouble , ./configure doesnt seem to work
[01:21] <SeligArkin> slestak: indeed, I had it fixed somehow, and now it is not, and I can't for the life of me remember how I fixed it
[01:21] <billw> slestak,  got it had to look for the hardware drivers
[01:21] <jlaroche> Is there anyone here who could please help me get my sound working in ubuntu which suddenly stopped working one day for no apparent reason.
[01:21] <Brutus> hello all, I am very new to ubuntu and I cannot get my sound running, can someone please help me?
[01:21] <VCoolio> thadoood: no readme or install file you can open text editor?
[01:21] <thadoood> it just says refer to ardours website
[01:21] <DG19075> and I should add, I see the wireless network and its signal strength, clicking on the icon...
[01:22] <slestak> SeligArkin: i seem to remember my e1505 doing that alot, but i rarely use that machine, so it doesnt bother me at all now
[01:22] <Mark_vH> is it possible to have hardware acceleration over an X tunnel?
[01:22] <Linuz2009> kj4: my computer had integrated optical drive and smart display sensor technology and intel centrino mobile technology, Portable Multitasking Center
[01:23] <Linuz2009> kj4: this are just the few I gave to you, do you want the full feature?
[01:24] <RB2> After I upgraded to 9.04, my X-Chat version stinks... there's no "Away" options and I can't find a way to have the user list show up on the right-hand side. What happened between 8.10 and 9.04?!?
[01:24] <slestak> RB2: doesnt xchat always stink?  j/k
[01:24] <VCoolio> thadoood: there is .deb file here, download and just click on it http://www.detector-pro.com/2009/03/ardour-28-released-install-with-one.html
[01:24] <h00k> RB2: make sure you have xchat and not xchat-gnome
[01:24] <Hessy> Hello
[01:24] <h00k> RB2: there are two different versions
[01:24] <thadoood> ok thanks VCoolio
[01:24] <RB2> AH HA!!!
[01:25] <RB2> Thank you h00k!!
[01:25] <RB2> That was it!
[01:25] <RB2> :D
[01:25] <FloodBot3> RB2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:25] <virtx> hello
[01:25] <Hessy> I'm trying to figure out how to connect my laptop running ubuntu to my wireless adhoc network to share files with my windows computer
[01:25] <Hessy> i can't seem to figure it out
[01:25] <virtx> libmp3lame has some problem?
[01:25] <civpro> is there a slimmed down version of ubuntu meant for speed?
[01:25] <boringpackets> hi everyone
[01:26] <civpro> 64bit preferably
[01:26] <boringpackets> civpro mini installer
[01:26] <boringpackets> !mini
[01:26] <jlaroche> My sound card is an Audigy 4. If I run AlsaMixer, should it be saying my Card is "Audigy 4 [SB0610]" wile my Chip is "SigmaTel STAC9750,51" ?
[01:26] <virtx> where can i get the libmp3lame src? on ubuntu 9.04 has problem
[01:26] <civpro> boring, thanks
[01:26] <boringpackets> no problem
[01:27] <slestak> SeligArkin: man, NM manages all my connections.  can i still execute an arbitrary script after NM brings up wifi?
[01:27] <Hessy> I can't seem to see the network when I connect
[01:27] <RB2> Ahh, much better. :)
[01:27] <civpro> looking for a basic system and running virtualbox overtop of it
[01:27] <slestak> SeligArkin: my /etc/networks/interfaces only mentions lo
[01:27] <SeligArkin> ah, slestak
[01:27] <DragonRift> how well does WINE work?
[01:28] <repnop> depends on the app
[01:28] <SeligArkin> I don't know then, I use roaming mode through wpasupplicant and ifupdown
[01:28] <civpro> is 9.04 stable?
[01:28] <slestak> DragonRift: pre3tty well for some apps, really accross the board
[01:28] <DragonRift> a opengl based app built on WXWidgets
[01:28] <Hessy> I share the internet through my desktop computer
[01:28] <matju> anyone, how do i autodetect the soundcard? i mean force re-autodetection, because Ubuntu stopped seeing it after an upgrade.
[01:28] <eseven73> civpro, yea theres a few issues remaining, check that last link in the topic to see what I mean
[01:28] <Hessy> its the only one connected to the modem
[01:28] <Hessy> and use my laptop to connect to that
[01:28] <boringpackets> civpro in my experience, its the best most reliable ubuntu yet
[01:28] <boringpackets> and im using some bleeding edge hardware
[01:28] <Hessy> but i can't seem to be able to from ubuntu
[01:28] <civpro> eseven thanks
[01:29] <civpro> btw, this support channel is probably the best one i have seen for linux, most are dicks, excuse my language
[01:29] <boringpackets> civpro, it's the target audience
[01:29] <boringpackets> if you fit it, you're accepted
[01:30] <civpro> guess i dont, lol
[01:30] <eseven73> civpro, that's what sets Ubuntu apart from the rest, theres a ton of distros just as good as Ubuntu,but they don't have the community! :)
[01:30] <slestak> matju: can you lspci and see it? maybe google jaunty + that model andsee it it pops
[01:30] <civpro> eseven, i couldnt agree more
[01:30] <Hessy> so anyone have any idea how i can connect wirelessly to my windows computer to share files
[01:31] <slestak> Hessy: smbclient?  nautilus?
[01:31] <matju> slestak: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04)
[01:31] <matju> slestak: i'm not on jaunty yet, i'm using 8.10 as an interim distro
[01:31] <slestak> yeah, lots of hits on google.
[01:32] <ExAstris_> can anyone recommend a good, transparent and light-colored gnome or emerald theme?
[01:32] <slestak> oh, well, lots of hits wrt jaunty
[01:32] <matju> slestak: so do you think i should look for AC 97 or for 82801 ?
[01:32] <Hessy> slestak those wont work if i can't even connect to the wireless network
[01:32] <Hessy> i even turned security off and ubuntu won't connect
[01:32] <slestak> matju: 82810 is where i would look, ac97 is all over the place
[01:32] <matju> slestak: thanks
[01:33] <civpro> i just went through pure hell trying to get archlinux installed, man, just trying to get the gui loaded is a pain
[01:33] <slestak> Hessy: im sorry, i didnt realize you had wifi issues, i just thought you needed to share files
[01:33] <jlaroche> sound help please
[01:33] <kaddi> hi, :) where can i get a version of amarok2 that will play CDs? Currently using 2.0.90 and I see no way of playing a CD.
[01:34] <Hessy> The drivers for the wifi seem to be working. I can connect to other networks in the neighborhood. But when I'm trying to connect to the computer I'm sharing the internet and the files through, it just refuses to connect. Even if I set up an adhoc network with no security
[01:34] <yokobr> hi folks
[01:34] <yokobr> i cant upgrade my ubuntu, or even update it
[01:35] <yokobr> Take a look at this http://pastebin.com/m1b2593bb
[01:36] <Hessy> Ok for some odd reason it let me connect now
[01:36] <Hessy> Is there any way to share files just dragging and dropping them?
[01:36] <slestak> Hessy: cool
[01:37] <Hessy> I can't actually see where I can browse the other computers hard drive
[01:37] <yokobr> http://pastebin.com/m1b2593bb
[01:37] <slestak> Hessy: i usually open a shared folder in Nautils
[01:37] <jlaroche> Could anyone help me get my sound blaster audigy 4 working in ubuntu 9.04 64 bit. It was working great, but suddenly stopped working two days ago.
[01:37] <slestak> Hessy: smb://machine/folder
[01:37] <marcus_aurelius> does anyone have an issue where downloading a bittorrent thru transmission stops your wireless network?
[01:38] <Pitufoide> Hello everyone....I updated to 9.0.4 and now the audio sounds horrible...every few seconds (30-40 s) the sound does like a quick machine gun, (6-10 shots)...any ideas ?
[01:38] <Mike_lifeguard> Hi folks. I've been noticing some system slowness recently, and I poked around in system monitor & saw that swap is slowly filling up to 100%, and cpu is growing along with it. I think this is probably related to flash in firefox, but killing firefox doesn't reduce swap usage (does reduce RAM usage)... I'm wondering if there's an easy way to see what's eating swap, or if this is a known problem.
[01:38] <bonez46> marcus_aurelius: I'd think that would always be iffy.. unstable.. I prefer wired..
[01:38] <boringpackets> pitufoide I'd try selecting different audio output drivers in volume control for a start
[01:39] <Hessy> slestak: Awesome. Thats what I was missing was the smb://
[01:39] <Hessy> i was just typing in //computer/folder
[01:39] <Hessy> and wondering why it didn't work
[01:39] <boringpackets> pitufoide, additionally, i'd check hardware monitor to see if there is resource draining or DPC latency spikes during these machine gun shots
[01:39] <marcus_aurelius> bonez46: it's only downloading bittorrent that gives me issues, everything else is fine
[01:40] <Pitufoide> boringpackets: I've tried all drivers, I haven't check the resources yet. I will
[01:40] <bonez46> hmmm
[01:40] <Hessy> It would be so much easier if i just had an external dvd drive
[01:40] <Hessy> silly netbooks without drives
[01:40] <varsendaggr> msg nickserv /identify morecowbell
[01:40] <varsendaggr> did anyone see that
[01:40] <marcus_aurelius> of course, bittorrent does tend to max out my network bandwidth, i was thinking i might be hitting some kind of threshold, buffer overflow, something like that
[01:40] <eseven73> varsendaggr nope :P
[01:41] <boringpackets> Netbooks serve their purposes, I'd imagine people in here have much more purposes than netbooks provide
[01:41] <Hessy> yes
[01:41] <varsendaggr> crap
[01:41] <varsendaggr> how do i identify/
[01:41] <slestak> SeligArkin: looks like NM ececutes scripts from /etc/NetworkManager/dispatch.d wheich also sources /etc/networks/if-up.d, so im covered
[01:41] <marcus_aurelius> '/msg nickserv identify you yourpassword ... i think
[01:41] <Hessy> boringpackets: they definately aren't powerhorses. But something small to like lay on the couch with and listen to some streaming music or something ya know
[01:41] <billybigrigger> marcus_aurelius, i know its all preference, but try out deluge, if you like utorrent style clients, deluge torrent is what your after, i personally hate transmission and doesnt ever seem to work right for me
[01:42] <Mike_lifeguard> just see /msg nickserv help identify
[01:42] <Hessy> i have a desktop if i need to do "power work"
[01:42] <varsendaggr> ha ha
[01:42] <boringpackets> hessy yeah, I went with the 13.3" notebook, to satisfy the power and mobility in one deal
[01:42] <marcus_aurelius> billybigrigger, thanks, i'll give that a try
[01:42] <slestak> boringpackets: since i've gotten mine, it gets 80-90% of my offwork needs done
[01:42] <Hessy> who sells a 13.3 inch?
[01:42] <kaddi> !amarok
[01:42] <slestak> m1330
[01:42] <slestak> dell
[01:42] <kaddi> !search amarok
[01:42] <jlaroche> Could anyone help me get my sound blaster audigy 4 working in ubuntu 9.04 64 bit. It was working great, but suddenly stopped working two days ago.
[01:42] <jlaroche> Could anyone help me get my sound blaster audigy 4 working in ubuntu 9.04 64 bit. It was working great, but suddenly stopped working two days ago.
[01:43] <boringpackets> slestak I got the 1340
[01:43] <billybigrigger> jlaroche, easy on the repeats, asking the question once is good enough
[01:43] <Hessy> I originally bought the netbook as a portable dj computer
[01:43] <slestak> boringpackets: i want one, but honestly, the 910 meets my needs.
[01:43] <Hessy> I'm trying to put all my stuff on there. but without a dvd drive its a big pain
[01:43] <boringpackets> 4GB 1066 ddr3, nvidia 9500M, 2.66ghz core 2 6mbl2, 250gb, all crammed into a 13.3" chassy
[01:44] <Counterspell> I am running an 8.10 box but I want to install a particular package from 9.04, how can I do that?
[01:44] <boringpackets> slestak i had a 1330 before this, and this feels so much more "solid" than the 1330
[01:44] <civpro> so whats the advantages to 9.04 ?
[01:44] <slestak> jlaroche: one troublehooting method might be to boot to a livecd of older ubuntu, or another distro to see if it works under those circumstances
[01:45] <boringpackets> the only problem with my 1340 is that the wireless does not function with 64bit drivers (both in linux and windows)
[01:45] <slestak> I ride my bike to work alot, so the 910 can barely be felt.  and with ssd, i am not concerned aboutkilling the drive
[01:45] <vertagano> Counterspell: That sounds like a bad idea. Why do you want to use this package, but don't want to upgrade your Ubuntu?
[01:45] <jp88> I was wondering if someone knows how to create 2 pppoe connections in ubuntu??
[01:45] <slestak> 2.9lbs, and 4hrs battery.  dont care if its slow
[01:45] <civpro> actually ill ask differently, where can i see the version improvement links at?
[01:45] <thadoood> is any one familiar with installing ardour 2.8 on ubuntu studio , i tryed to install the deb package with package installer and i get an error in the installer saying "Error:dependency is not satisfiable: libasound2" i have libasound2 installed
[01:46] <thadoood> what could be the problem
[01:46] <Counterspell> vertagano: upgrading ubuntu causes lots of trouble; i upgraded my laptop and now it randomly crashes plus i have problems with other apps
[01:46] <boringpackets> slestak i totally understand but i prefer having one single unit that 'does it all'
[01:46] <billybigrigger> civpro, ubuntu.com check the release notes
[01:46] <Hessy> i wish i could afford a 13 inch notebook right now
[01:46] <slestak> thadoood: maybe you need the -dev packages?
[01:46] <jlaroche> slestak: i may do that right now. Also, under system-->preferences-->sound the "Test" buttons make the correct beep sounds
[01:46] <Hessy> this 10 inch screen is small
[01:46] <thadoood> i have the dev package
[01:47] <boringpackets> i don't mind small screens, if I got a netbook i'd be much more concerned with how thick the frame around the screen was, than the screen size itself
[01:47] <slestak> jlaroche: check your mixer, and make sure you done have channels muted.
[01:47] <thadoood> i downloaded ardour_2.8.1~getdeb1_i386.deb
[01:47] <boringpackets> some of the earlier netbooks looked like laptops from the 80's with those huge frames around the small screens
[01:47] <jlaroche> slestak: no channels muted
[01:47] <slestak> jlaroche: pulse or alsa?
[01:47] <Hessy> i personally like the netbook..for the things i bought it for it works surprisingly well
[01:47] <jlaroche> ALSA
[01:48] <boringpackets> one of these days they'll make a laptop that has no enclosure for the screen, that just holds the screen as is. and i'll buy it
[01:48] <slestak> i saw an ad the other day, the 10" mini, 120g hd, 1g ram, xp (boo) $259
[01:48] <blocky> has anyone with an older ATI card successfully reverted to Xorg 1.5 in jaunty?
[01:48] <boringpackets> not bad slestak, i'm thinking about selling my ibook g4 (given to me) to get a netbook around that cost
[01:48] <slestak> jlaroche: im sorry, im notgood with sound problems.
[01:49] <ubugtu> could anyone tell me how to play flash video sound on a bluetooth audio device?
[01:49] <dmizer> trying to pair my bluetooth headset with ibex, but the pin is always 0000 even though /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf says 1234. i've also edited /etc/bluetooth/pin without success.
[01:49] <slestak> boringpackets: i like that they are basically disposable.  i would obsess over a more expensivemachine, but i've paid more forphones befor
[01:49] <civpro> so what i think this is saying is jeos is designed for something like virtualbox correct?
[01:49] <Majix560> brb, away
[01:50] <boringpackets> slestak people on ebay are paying upwards of $300 for the ibook g4 that i have, i'm really considering selling that old piece of junk for a netbook
[01:50] <ncfi1013> why can't i delete/load songs to/from my ipod in amarok 2?
[01:50] <thadoood> ok i installed the libasound2-dev package and it still gives me the error "Error:dependency is not satisfiable:libasound2"
[01:50] <billybigrigger> who here runs ext4?
[01:50] <thadoood> ok i installed the libasound2-dev package and it still gives me the error "Error:dependency is not satisfiable:libasound2"
[01:50] <boringpackets> i love how apples marketing has zombified their target audience, otherwise my ibook would be worth nothing
[01:50] <boringpackets> billybigrigger i run ext4 on 9.04 amd64
[01:51] <billybigrigger> i have 2x500gb SATA disks i am thinking about backing up and formatting to ext4, just wondering if its worth the trouble
[01:51] <ubugtu> boringpackets: can you delete files ok?
[01:51] <dmizer> trying to pair my bluetooth headset with ibex, but bluetooth-applet always uses a pin of 0000 even though /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf says 1234. i've also edited /etc/bluetooth/pin without success.
[01:51] <Mike_lifeguard> I've been having slowness recently, so looked in system monitor & saw that swap is slowly filling up to 100%, with CPU/load growing along with it. I'm wondering if there's an easy way to see what's eating swap, or if this is a known problem.
[01:51] <boringpackets> billybigrigger ext4 is faster, and ubugtu i have had no problem deleting files
[01:51] <slestak> thadoood: i dunno man.  maybe purge the existing libqasound and reinstall?  is your deb lookingfor a newer libasound than your release offers?
[01:51] <billybigrigger> boringpackets, no journaling problems or lost data?
[01:51] <thadoood> im not sure slestak
[01:52] <ubugtu> boringpackets: do i have to reinstall my whole OS to switch to ext4
[01:52] <boringpackets> billybigrigger none to speak of, and i have done a few improper shutdowns, which had no effect on the system upon reboot
[01:52] <Majix560> back
[01:52] <thadoood> ill check into that Slestak and get back on it
[01:52] <Majix560> brb
[01:52] <billybigrigger> boringpackets, i tried ext4 in the early alpha stages around A4 of jaunty when ext4 was first released and i had some problems with it corrupting data, so im a bit weary now thats all
[01:52] <boringpackets> ubugtu you can do that, or use partimage or simply tarball your partition
[01:52] <slestak> ubugtu: i kept my /home ext3 and everything else ext4
[01:52] <_newbie_> can some one help me wtih this error? Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[01:52] <boringpackets> billybigrigger i really like ext4, though ive been considering reiser4
[01:52] <danes_> how can I make some room to store information on the system partition?
[01:53] <Majix560> back, for real
[01:53] <dmizer> trying to pair my bluetooth headset with ibex, but bluetooth-applet always uses a pin of 0000 even though /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf says 1234. i've also edited /etc/bluetooth/pin without success.
[01:53] <ubugtu> how much faster is ext4?
[01:53] <billybigrigger> boringpackets, i just want something that will give me good transfer speeds and stable data
[01:53] <danes_> or how can I know how much space I have left on my disk?
[01:53] <billybigrigger> boringpackets, do you run your ext4 drive in raid?
[01:53] <Majix560> how do i get an image set as the title screen for a rom in Kamefu? and what format does it need to be?
[01:53] <dmizer> ubugtu: it depends on what you use it for. if you have a lot of extremely large files, you'll experience an increase in speed. otherwise, probably not.
[01:53] <civpro> any recommendations on books?
[01:53] <ubugtu> whats partimage?
[01:54] <boringpackets> ubugtu not THAT much, but noticeable to me (if its not a placebo effect)
[01:54] <billybigrigger> boringpackets, cause i was also thinking of putting the 2 500gb disks in raid with ext4 and want to know how well that works
[01:54] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: System > Administration > System monitor
[01:54] <_newbie_> can some one help me wtih this error? Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[01:54] <dmizer> trying to pair my bluetooth headset with ibex, but bluetooth-applet always uses a pin of 0000 even though /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf says 1234. i've also edited /etc/bluetooth/pin without success.
[01:54] <kryle> hey, i have set up compiz fusion and have nice effects on my windows now, but how do i enable so i get same effects in the gnome menu ??
[01:54] <boringpackets> billlybigrigger no raid for me, just a boring old 2.5" 250GB
[01:54] <Mike_lifeguard> kryle: not sure offhand, but there is #compiz-fusion
[01:54] <boringpackets> kryle i suggest you install compizconfig settings manager
[01:54] <Counterspell> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.2 on a server and I run do-release-upgrade but I get the message "No new release found"; what's the deal where is 9.04?
[01:55] <kryle> i have that one xD
[01:55] <curo_> hi
[01:55] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, thanks. Do you know how can I get rid of old packages that are not needed on my system
[01:55] <curo_> where do I have to install GRUB in a triple boot system?
[01:55] <Mike_lifeguard> kryle: then poke around until you find stuff you like :)
[01:55] <Lacyel> hello
[01:55] <kryle> but cant find settings for the gnome menu in it
[01:55] <ubugtu> could anyone tell me how to play flash video sound on a bluetooth audio device?
[01:55] <slestak> dmizer: a2dp is the holy grail of bugs right now for me.  ive had a headset for years i cannot pair with any distro.  works with win of course
[01:55] <Counterspell> Counterspell: because you can only upgrade from 8.10
[01:55] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: sudo apt-get autoremove (I think)
[01:55] <Majix560> how do i set an image as a title screen in the program Kamefu? what format does the image need to be?
[01:55] <danes_> how can I make some room on my hdd to install new updates without affecting the system
[01:55] <marcus_aurelius> kryle: download compiz config settings manager, i'd suggest simple-ccsm as well
[01:55] <Lacyel> can someone help with the installation?
[01:55] <epalm> suggestions for an app which can batch-resize images?
[01:55] <billybigrigger> danes_, sudo apt-get clean
[01:55] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: installation of ubuntu? or some software package?
[01:55] <slestak> epalm: imagemagick
[01:55] <Lacyel> im having a problem with partitions
[01:56] <Lacyel> ubuntu
[01:56] <peaches> so whose idea was it to package beta version of privoxy and beta version of audacity in 9.04 as stable?
[01:56] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: ubuntu
[01:56] <billybigrigger> danes_, well really, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[01:56] <Majix560> epalm: irfan view, for windows
[01:56] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: don't use [], it won't ping people.
[01:56] <kryle> i have all those, and i have selected my favorite effects on everything, its only the gnome meny that dont have any effect =)
[01:56] <dmizer> slestak: a2dp?
[01:56] <epalm> slestak: isn't that cmd-line-only?  Majix560: for ubuntu
[01:56] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: actually its with the partition and install ubuntu on it
[01:56] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: yes, I can try to help you - what, specifically, is your problem
[01:56] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: sorry its the script :(
[01:57] <Mike_lifeguard> your script is broken :)
[01:57] <deagle> how do I make it pulseaudio not play choppy over the network?
[01:57] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: thanks, i burned a cd here
[01:57] <slestak> dmizer: that is stereo sound over bluetooth, and avrcp is what will allow you to control volume with your headset
[01:57] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: then when i started installing it, i saw there was two partitions already created on my pc
[01:57] <danes_> is there a way to know which applications are the most space consuming?
[01:57] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: and i have 2 hds
[01:57] <_newbie4> can some one help me wtih this error? Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.27-11-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[01:57] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: each partition seemed to be set for each hd and each partition eats all hd space, the thing is
[01:57] <Majix560> epalm: Get wine, which runs windows programs on linux. then get irfan view for windows onto ubuntu.
[01:57] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: is this a dual-boot with Windows or something exotic?
[01:58] <marcus_aurelius> danes_: top
[01:58] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: actually no, its just windows xp professional
[01:58] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: since this pc is 5 years old
[01:58] <dot_to_dot> ok clearly synaptic package manager lied to me :P i thought this was a program to send morse
[01:58] <slestak> marcus_aurelius: i think he's looking for swap consupmtion
[01:58] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: i believe my mother back there asked someone to create two partitions for both hds so she could use all the hds free space to windows xp
[01:58] <curo_> anyone?
[01:58] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: ok, so you need to shrink your windows partition(s) to make room for the ubuntu partitions
[01:58] <marcus_aurelius> slestak: wouldn't top work for that as well?
[01:58] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: yesss exactly thats what i wanna do
[01:58] <ubugtu> could anyone tell me how to play flash video sound on a bluetooth audio device?
[01:58] <dmizer> slestak: i can't even get that far. i'm simply trying to pair the device. it won't pair because the default pin is incorrect, and bluetooth-applet won't give me the opportunity to enter a different pin
[01:59] <Mike_lifeguard> bah
[01:59] <Raf> hi all
[01:59] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: but you see when i try to get some free space of this partition that already exists it says "ohh you gotta delete the previous all"
[01:59] <Majix560> HELP! HELP! WHY wil no one tell me how to set an image as a title-screen for rom collection manager Kamefu?
[01:59] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: but i cant just delete whats there :(
[01:59] <Raf> can someone please teach me how to use nautilus to upload documents to a protected website?
[01:59] <Mike_lifeguard> !patience | Majix560
[01:59] <ajcates> I am coming from OSX and was wondering if they have lists of alternative apps kinda like how they do with windows and linux switchers
[01:59] <ajcates> or if anybody could recomend some
[01:59] <eseven73> !helpme | Majix560
[01:59] <billybigrigger> ajcates8=D alternative apps for what?
[01:59] <Raf> ajcates: what is it that you want?
[02:00] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: so i was wondering if there wasnt a way to get this free partition space and use it to install ubuntu
[02:00] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: yes, of course you can just nuke whatever's on the hard drive now (windows) - is that what you want to do?
[02:00] <dot_to_dot> f
[02:00] <Majix560> sorry, but no one has said anything to me answering my question
[02:00] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: or do you want to keep Windows so you can still boot into that as well
[02:00] <danes_> marcus_aurelius, thanks, but I am looking for installed apps. My partition is already full, so I need to make some room and I need to know the size of the apps
[02:00] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: i want both windows and ubuntu, but the thing is, the two hds have two partitions, one for each, both have files already inside of it
[02:00] <ajcates> @Raf  an FTP app, quicklook, quicksliver
[02:01] <ncfi1013> why can't i delete/load songs to/from my ipod in amarok 2?
[02:01] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: one of those partitions still have 50 gb left unused, but its inside the partition, not free space outside the partition
[02:01] <Raf> FTP, you can use Nautilus (Places>
[02:01] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: right, but Gparted can shrink those partitions (assuming there is empty space on the hard drives)
[02:01] <Raf> g2g
[02:01] <Raf> sorry
[02:01] <Raf> bye
[02:01] <FloodBot3> Raf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:01] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: yea the thing is theres 160gb on the hard drive, but this partition demands 160gb, altough i'm only using 80 gb
[02:01] <billybigrigger> ajcates8=D for FTP use filezilla, and what is quicklook and quicksilver?
[02:01] <Majix560> Lacyel: could be that you don't have the drivers for the file format used by your ipod
[02:02] <Majix560> installed
[02:02] <dot_to_dot> k
[02:02] <Lacyel> eh? ipod?
[02:02] <danes_> how can I get rid of the temporary files? I really need help. I don't want to mess up with the file system again and end up with a messed ubuntu. I need to make room on my hdd
[02:02] <Majix560> I thoguht that was what you said
[02:02] <ajcates> @Lacyel quick look is where you press space on any item and it opens it in a little preview window
[02:02] <billybigrigger> danes_, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[02:02] <danes_> billybigrigger, I already tried that
[02:03] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: what do you mean the partition "demands 160GB"? If it's only got X gigs of data in it, then you can shrink it, leaving empty space outside the partition
[02:03] <Majix560> sorry laycel, i thyink I read someone elses message under your name
[02:03] <danes_> that only gave me 200mb, but that's not enough :s
[02:03] <ajcates> @Lacyel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quick_Look
[02:03] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: Then use that space to make new partitions for ubuntu
[02:03] <marcus_aurelius> danes_: how big is your rootfs?
[02:03] <danes_> 8.8 gb
[02:03] <Mike_lifeguard> Lacyel: do you want to take this to PM? kinda noisy in here, etc
[02:03] <dmizer> how can i change the default bluetooth pin in ibex?
[02:03] <ubugtu> could anyone tell me how to play flash video sound on a bluetooth audio device?
[02:03] <Majix560> ncfil1013: the ipod message i mistakingly sent Laycel was for you
[02:03] <billybigrigger> danes_::: well start cleaning up your /home
[02:03] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: yea thats what i wanted to do! the windows that mentions about the partitions when i run ubuntu on live cd says that
[02:04] <marcus_aurelius> danes_: is there any other space left on your drive?
[02:04] <Lacyel> [Mike_lifeguard]: i have those 2 hds, they both have around 160 gb, but then i also have already two partitions, one for HD1, other for HD2, and it says these partitions have 160 gb size
[02:04] <danes_> marcus_aurelius,  /home
[02:04] <smokinjoe> Can  anyone tell me of a good video editing program besides Kino?
[02:04] <marcus_aurelius> how much in /home?
[02:04] <epswing_> interesting...installed imagemagick, ran mogrify -resize 240x260 *_t.jpg and it came back with "mogrify: unable to open image `*_t.jpg': No such file or directory @ magick/blob.c/OpenBlob/2418.".  this look familiar to anyone?
[02:04] <LjL> smokinjoe: try "list every video editor" in #ubuntu-bots
[02:04] <danes_> marcus_aurelius,  2.2gb
[02:05] <ncfi1013> majix560, can you tell me how to get the drivers for that?
[02:05] <Majix560> Does anyone know how to set an image as a title-screen for a rom in Kamefu?
[02:05] <deagle> how do I make it pulseaudio not play choppy over the network?
[02:06] <Majix560> ncfil1013: the onlything I know is open file outside of amerok
[02:06] <marcus_aurelius> do you have any free unused space on your drive?
[02:06] <Majix560> ncfil1013: you could look in synaptic thoguh
[02:06] <ncfi1013> "open file"? majix560
[02:06] <smokinjoe> LjL is that a command to throw into #ubuntu-bots chat?
[02:07] <LjL> smokinjoe: yes
[02:07] <ncfi1013> ipod control majix560? maybe?
[02:07] <Majix560> yeah, plug in ipod, window manager, got to media (mount on other linuxs), ipod should be mounted there
[02:07] <virtx> fuck libmp3lame
[02:08] <virtx> ogg works fine
[02:08] <virtx> mp3 doesnt :\
[02:08] <eseven73> !ohmy | virtx
[02:08] <ncfi1013> tried that majix560
[02:08] <virtx> sorry.
[02:08] <Majix560> oh, sorry
[02:08] <danes_> marcus_aurelius, well, I have 3 partitions. I do not recognize one of them. I have /home, /, and gvfs-fuse-daemon
[02:08] <virtx> there is some suggestion about libmp3lame?
[02:08] <ncfi1013> can i use a previous version of amarok majix560?
[02:08] <Majix560> don't know what will work. maybe ipod tunes, under wine
[02:08] <danes_> marcus_aurelius, I do not know what is gvfs... partition for. Do you have an idea?
[02:10] <mib_ngf6es> hi
[02:10] <danes_> marcus_aurelius, the partition shows me: total 8.8gb, free: 224.6Mb, available: 0 bytes, Used: 8.5Gb. How can I make the system recognize that free space again?
[02:10] <Majix560> i don't know if you can. my sansa clips music doesn't show up at all, but the sansa clip and my recording do show up in it. though i use Rythmbox
[02:11] <glicks> what about thunderbird?
[02:11] <gasull> Hi.  How do I install a package for Hardy in Jaunty? (it only exists for Hardy)  Thank you
[02:11] <glicks> what application can i open up chm files with?
[02:11] <ubugtu> could anyone tell me how to play flash video sound on a bluetooth audio device?
[02:11] <Majix560> does anyone know how to set an image as a title-screen in Kamefu?
[02:11] <Bart-_> hello all
[02:12] <danes_> ok, I have this problem: I have some space available on my hdd, but It shows me 0bytes available. What can I do so that the system recognizes that free space?
[02:12] <dot_to_dot> cw
[02:12] <Bart-_> is there a tool for my gnome desktop .. that can show me var/log/messages on the background?
[02:12] <dot_to_dot> CW
[02:12] <billybigrigger> Bart-_::: terminal?
[02:12] <dot_to_dot> Usage: CW
[02:12] <Bart-_> no no billybigrigger
[02:12] <vertagano> glicks: Maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81510.html
[02:12] <Bart-_> i think it was called xbacklog
[02:12] <Bart-_> or something
[02:13] <dot_to_dot> CW
[02:13] <Bart-_> cw?
[02:13] <billybigrigger> Bart-_::: conky can do that, just have to tail -f /var/log/messages every second if you want, or every 5 or 10 secs
[02:13] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]Pl;Q
[02:13] <Bart-_> ah exactly that sounds good billybigrigger
[02:13] <Bart-_> thanks i give it a try
[02:13] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]S@>%
[02:13] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]Pz;_
[02:14] <billybigrigger> Bart-_::: i think you'd need to exec -i tail -f /var/log/messages or something, i can't really remember conky's syntax
[02:14] <SineDeviance> hi all. i'm running ubuntu 9.04 fully updated. All was well after installing the nvidia driver, rebooting, and enabling desktop effects. But now after rebooting again, compiz is running but i have no window borders
[02:14] <billybigrigger> Bart-_::: should be an easy google
[02:14] <Bart-_> yeah
[02:14] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]P2H#PAJFPKI:
[02:14] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]O-S7@bP@NM
[02:14] <SineDeviance> last boot, i DID have compiz with window borders
[02:14] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]M]P%JzPLH$RZM6
[02:14] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]O=RWJ0PAJlPAJ1PK
[02:14] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]Q2;v
[02:14] <FloodBot3> dot_to_dot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <dot_to_dot> cw=Z]RzLmRsEbP1NPP+Om
[02:15] <dot_to_dot> sorry.
[02:15] <Majix560> Does anyone here know how to set up Kamefu?
[02:16] <Majix560> I have it installed, but i can't set an image as a title-screen-image for a rom
[02:16] <deagle> how do I make it pulseaudio not play choppy over the network?
[02:18] <Majix560> I can't here midi files, even though totem player shows it can. will someone please help me?
[02:18] <RB2> Any suggestions on a workaround for an nVidia 8800GTS where the restricted drivers won't work?
[02:19] <Majix560> i mean totem player show it can play midi files, but i still cant hear them
[02:19] <coz_> RB2, they dont work at all?
[02:19] <Majix560> and i can hear other sounds just fine
[02:19] <coz_> RB2,  which driver version are you trying to install?
[02:20] <RB2> coz_, it comes up in low-graphics mode and I have to do an xfix and restart
[02:20] <lflashlnzl> what program does everyone here use for torrents?
[02:20] <billybigrigger> lflashlnzl::: deluge-torrent
[02:20] <coz_> RB2,  have you tried  nvidia-xconfig via terminal?
[02:20] <peaches> lflashlnzl: ktorrent on KDE desktop
[02:20] <RB2> coz_, I was running 180.44, but since it didn't work, I used 180.53 from the PPA repo
[02:20] <RB2> coz_, yes, it doesn't make any difference.
[02:20] <RB2> :(
[02:20] <coz_> RB2,  see if there is a 180.20 driver which is the best of the 180.xx series
[02:20] <RB2> coz_, it's been doing this since 8.10.. before that, it was great.
[02:21] <coz_> RB2,  you can always install the driver from nvidia if we cant get this working but while you check for that driver let me check the net
[02:21] <Majix560> totem player shows it can play midi files (i had to install the driver), and i cant hear them. i cant hear them in a game engine that uses them ether. how do i get my computer to play them?
[02:21] <RB2> coz_, ok thanks.
[02:21] <rendero> i get 404 errors every time i try to access my apache files, this is a new issue for me, i do not know why it happens, no problem with https, the problem is with http
[02:22] <zhenxin2005> 这里都是机器人吗？？
[02:22] <RB2> coz_, btw, this issue happened with driver version 177 as well.
[02:22] <danes_> what is gvfs-fuse-daemon?
[02:22] <coz_> RB2, ooo
[02:22] <SineDeviance> so... doesnt anyone have any idea why i have no window decorations with desktop effects turned on?
[02:22] <RB2> coz_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/352485
[02:23] <RB2> coz_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/329556
[02:23] <Majix560> does anyone know how to set an image as the title-screen for a rom in Kamefu?
[02:23] <danes_> !temporary
[02:23] <danes_> !temporary files
[02:23] <RB2> coz_, Those are the two bug tickets... 329556 has been around since Intrepid I believe...
[02:23] <lflashlnzl> billybigrigger, are there any settings theat i should have to make the downloads work faster, under ubuntu 9.04 im getting really slow speeds...
[02:23] <coz_> RB2,  i see that  :(  hold on a minute
[02:24] <Majix560> since no one is helping me, i am guiting
[02:24] <coz_> RB2,  the other options is to install the official driver freom nvida  which takes just a bit of work
[02:24] <billybigrigger> lflashlnzl::: make sure your ports are forwarded properly, and i just use the default settings
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> Majix560: last i used mame (years ago) the mame 'directories' had a screenshots and title screen directories. You could hit some KEY in mame to make a screen shot that often saved the screen to one or the other. I do recall there being 'packs' you could download for mame that included title and screen shots for all the games..
[02:25] <_Joker_> ola boa noite
[02:25] <coz_> RB2,  out of curiosity   open a termina and   sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-new
[02:25] <billybigrigger> lflashlnzl::: i max my cable connection @ 2.2meg/s constantly with default settings so i dunno what to tell ya
[02:25] <danes_> what is gvfs-fuse-daemon? I need to make my system recognize the free space
[02:25] <RB2> coz_, I can do that, but I thought that, in the end, it was the same.
[02:25] <deagle> how do I make it pulseaudio not play choppy over the network?
[02:25] <lflashlnzl> billybigrigger, yea done all of that just wondering,,,, thanks anyway
[02:25] <danes_> how ca i do it?
[02:25] <coz_> RB2,  well no not actually the same I had this issue always with ubuntu until intrepid and jaunty just the reverse of you
[02:26] <lorenzo> hi everyone, i tried to install some nautilus scripts, and because i am really stupid i think i messed something up - possibly with the chmod command. Now when i try to access some folders, nautilus freezes and shuts down. Can anyone help me fix it? please have mercy on a silly user. thanks
[02:26] <Greed> I had Ubuntu installed.. installed windows 7.. and then I re-installed Ubuntu what should I do? is my windows 7 gone?
[02:26] <Seeker`> !cn > zhenxin2005
[02:26] <RB2> coz_, lol... it was smooth as glass until 8.10 ... and then everything went to hell in a handbasket
[02:26] <coz_> RB2,  also could you pastebin the /etc/X11/xorg.conf? please
[02:26] <_Joker_> hi girll let go
[02:26] <coz_> RB2,  :(  yeah strange  some of which is hardware related some due to the nvidia-glx stuff
[02:27] <SeligArkin> GRAG!
[02:27] <SeligArkin> Seriously, how do I tell it not to do the fraking dim on idle, the power management option does nothing it seems!
[02:27] <RB2> coz_, apt-get output: http://www.pastebin.ca/1417895
[02:27] <SeligArkin> Its rather unusable having to set the brightness back up every 20 seconds
[02:28] <coz_> RB2,   ok I thought would happen
[02:28] <RB2> coz_, xorg: http://www.pastebin.ca/1417899
[02:28] <RB2> coz_, that was after I ran xfix so I could start X again
[02:29] <coz_> RB2,  hold on
[02:29] <coz_> RB2,  this is ubunt u9.04 correct?
[02:29] <Greed> I dont understand why I'm having so much trouble dual booting... Ive tried all the wikis and have not had any luck
[02:29] <RB2> coz_, yes, indeed
[02:29] <danes_> what is gvfs-fuse-daemon? what is this for?
[02:29] <bgamari> Are there plans to enable SELinux in the default Ubuntu installation at any point in the future?
[02:30] <Greed> What is the best method.. windows before ubuntu.. or the other way around?
[02:30] <RB2> bgamari, not that I'm aware of.. but I think that could turn quickly into a nightmare
[02:30] <bgamari> RB2, Fedora does it
[02:30] <coz_> RB2,  ok let me upload mine  I also use nvidia and if you see a difference  make the changes in yours restart x "properly"  and come back and let me know hold on
[02:30] <bgamari> RB2, I'm running a fedora machine right now
[02:30] <civpro> is there an alternative in linux to remote installation services?
[02:30] <bgamari> RB2, I haven't seen an AVC for months
[02:30] <xy|ox> Greed, ubuntu after windows, so windows doesnt take the grub out
[02:31] <glicks> anyone know any good database modeling tools?
[02:31] <coz_> RB2,   ok take a look at mine   http://www.pastebin.ca/1417903
[02:31] <coz_> RB2,  make the comparison and insert the missing  Section "module"
[02:32] <Yud_Zroc> any good planning tools (like a schedualler
[02:32] <RB2> bgamari, I haven't been that lucky... hehe I use it on CentOS for server applications, but not on my workstation
[02:32] <RB2> coz_, ok, let me take a look
[02:32] <RB2> coz_, I'll run nvidia-xconfig and compare
[02:33] <coz_> RB2,  properly restart x  with  ctrl+alt+F1  then   log in.. then    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:33] <ExAstris> Hi all. How can I edit the appearance of a gnome controls theme?
[02:33] <RB2> coz_, how do I re-enable Ctrl-Alt-F1
[02:33] <RB2> oh wait, that was backspace
[02:33] <RB2> lol
[02:33] <magyar> hi, trying to install kubuntu, but having a hard time to configure software raid during install. Can anyone help with this issue?
[02:33] <coz_> RB2, right that way is the most improper way to restart x  it doesnt shut down applications properly
[02:35] <RB2> coz_, this is the nvidia-xconfig version: http://www.pastebin.ca/1417907
[02:35] <Zesturian> Hello, with apf (active policy firewall) how can I apply the hosts.deny rules to ALL interfaces?
[02:35] <coz_> RB2,  mm ok
[02:35] <rakudave> RB2: it was disabled in jaunty as not to confuse users. Alt+SysRq+K is the new Crtl+Alt+Backspace now
[02:35] <Zesturian> It's only affecting eth0 at the moment.
[02:35] <coz_> RB2,  that actually "should" work
[02:35] <lorenzo> hi, nautilus has slowed down after i clumsily installed some scripts. anyone wants to help me to fix permissions? thanks a lot.
[02:35] <RB2> coz_, nope.. EE errors all over the place
[02:35] <coz_> RB2,  i dont think you need the Option  "DPMS"
[02:36] <coz_> RB2,  but that is not I dont believe the issue here
[02:36] <RB2> coz_, yeah, dpms would just be the power saving mode, etc...
[02:36] <coz_> RB2,  right but I generally do not like to have DPMS  on
[02:37] <RB2> coz_, I have no idea what's wrong, but I'm not the only one having it and it's kind of abysmal that it's been two releases and the issue still exists.
[02:37] <danes_> I need help. I have free space on my hdd, but the "/" partition shows 0 bytes available. What can I do
[02:37] <coz_> RB2,  ok as I said the other options is to install this manually
[02:37] <magyar> hi, how can i install software raid in ubuntu?
[02:38] <coz_> RB2,  you will need to remove the nvidia driver you have now though with   sudo /usr/bin/nvidia-installer --uninstall
[02:38] <RB2> coz_, will that remove the modalias stuff and the kernel modules as well?
[02:38] <coz_> RB2,  yes it should
[02:38] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: you can make the partition bigger
[02:38] <RB2> coz_, can I just remove all the packages in synaptic?
[02:39] <Mike_lifeguard> !raid | magyar
[02:39] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, That is not an option for me :(
[02:39] <coz_> RB2,   you could but I would rather you do it with that command
[02:39] <coz_> RB2,  then in terminal    sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:39] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: Why not?
[02:39] <FloridaGuy> ( Unable to start settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'
[02:39] <RB2> coz_, ahh because I don't have that command atm. ;)
[02:39] <magyar> ubottu: thanks
[02:39] <coz_> RB2,  if it cant find the linux thing then do   sudo apt-get install linux-source
[02:39] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, because I have very little space left
[02:40] <magyar> bahh Mike_lifeguard thanks
[02:40] <coz_> RB2,  which command?
[02:40] <vices> is there a save session option so that when I restart the computer all of my windows are saved?
[02:40] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: but you said you have free space on the disc (but that free space isn't inside the partition)
[02:40] <Mike_lifeguard> vices: you mean hibernation?
[02:40] <RB2> coz_, the nvidia installer...
[02:41] <vices> nah i mean restarting or shutting down the computer
[02:41] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, ok, do you know which command shows the space available on the disk with the respective partitions? So I can paste the info to show you my problem
[02:41] <ESphynx> hey guys what's a nice GUI tool to search for a package and install it?
[02:41] <ESphynx> Synaptic only seems to search "installed" packages
[02:41] <Mike_lifeguard> vices: there is an option to have the system remember what programs you're running, yes
[02:41] <ESphynx> I wanna type 7z and click and get the package
[02:41] <dbruhn> aptitude
[02:41] <ESphynx> aptitude - thank you. I always forget the name
[02:41] <vices> oh cool, where is that?
[02:41] <Mike_lifeguard> vices: in System > Preferences > sessions, IIRC
[02:42] <rods> ESphynx: synaptic can search uninstalled packages, btw
[02:42] <vices> ah I tried that but it didn't work
[02:42] <Mike_lifeguard> ESphynx: at the left there's filters - check that you're not using the filter to look only at installed packages
[02:42] <rods> ESphynx: 7z is available in the Add/Remove utility in "Accessories"
[02:43] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: System > Administration > Partition editor
[02:43] <rods> Esphynx: it's available in the multiverse repositories
[02:44] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, ok, that works, but I was expecting a command to copy and paste from terminal because partition manager won't let me do it
[02:44] <ESphynx> rods: how?
[02:45] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: sudo fdisk -l will show you the same thing in terminal
[02:45] <ESphynx> ah okay
[02:45] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, thanks, that is the one :)
[02:45] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: Gparted won't let you do what?
[02:45] <DSteele> what is ubuntu?
[02:46] <clearscreen> !ubuntu | DSteele
[02:46] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard,  copy the text
[02:46] <Mike_lifeguard> DSteele: ubuntu is a free (as in freedom) and free (as in beer) operating system that you should use! :P
[02:46] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, k
[02:46] <FloridaGuy> when i click appearence i geting unable to start settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon.....when i type sudo gnome-settings-daemon...i get....(gnome-settings-daemon:22323): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed
[02:47] <roosh> does anyone know why my weather apps in gdesklets do not work? they are getting a N/A, retrival failed message
[02:47] <rods> roosh: do you have proxy settings in place, and have you checked to see if the weather server is available?
[02:47] <SJr> What is a program that in Firefox will play WMV?
[02:47] <nate[oz]-> vlc
[02:47] <ESphynx> Mike_lifeguard - I have all selected, but I only see file-roller and lzma
[02:47] <roosh> rods: im not using a proxy, and how do i check for weather server?
[02:47] <SJr> nate[oz]- any other programs that one doesn't seem to work
[02:48] <office> mplayer
[02:48] <Mike_lifeguard> ESphynx: sorry, what? (I remember your nick, but not what you're talking about) :D
[02:48] <SJr> Hmmmm yeah mplayer seems to work
[02:48] <rods> roosh: not sure, haven't used gdesklets. But that's a common problem with google widgets I've come across, so I threw that out there to see if you have tried it
[02:48] <SJr> thanks office
 ESphynx: at the left there's filters - check that you're not using the filter to look only at installed packages
[02:49] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, synaptic
[02:49] <SJr> Atleast it was working
[02:49] <roosh> rods: well apparently it gets the weather data from yahoo weather, so i dont think there would be a server problem
[02:49] <Mike_lifeguard> ESphynx: do you have repositories configured properly? You should have several thousand packages
[02:50] <ESphynx> Mike_lifeguard : default install here
[02:50] <ESphynx> running synaptic for the first tiem
[02:50] <Mike_lifeguard> huh
[02:50] <Mike_lifeguard> try hitting reload @ top left
[02:50] <office> go back to windows
[02:51] <vertagano> bluetooth-wizard never shows and devices; hcitool from the commandline does. Nautilus no longer allows me to connect to my bluetooth devices with obex://[address]  How can I use a GUI to browse and retrieve files?
[02:51] <ESphynx> still those 2 packages
[02:51] <ESphynx> I typed 7z in the quick search
[02:52] <rainofkayos> is there any way i can use my Itunes library in ubuntu? its on an external drive and when i open the drive in a file viewer something is playing the songs when i hover over the file with my icon,, but rhythmbox wont notice the songs it may be my vlc player which i believe was the only one able to play the songs =(
[02:52] <rainofkayos> s/icon/mouse/
[02:53] <Trae> I need to clean my boot logo from the kubuntu-desktop junk to the default Ubuntu stuff.  (I was trying kubuntu and went back to Ubuntu)
[02:53] <xangua> rainofkayos: qhen you put the mouse over an audio file nautilus plays it
[02:53] <chuxxsss> Any point me to what's new in 9.04 please.
[02:53] <Trae> no offense meant to any kubuntu people
[02:54] <rainofkayos> i see but i figured nautilus was calling on some audio app to play it..
[02:54] <SeligArkin> Please, anybody, is there any way to lock the brightness at a set level, because the gnome-power-manager doesn't know what it is doing it seems, and it is driving me bonkers upping the brightness with the fn-blah combo every 20-30 seconds
[02:54] <rainofkayos> and if thats the case... my file browser has the codec for itunes.. and my music players dont .. =( lol
[02:55] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168282/
[02:55] <danes_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168282/
[02:55] <valued> Are there any tools in Ubuntu for backing up a partition?
[02:55] <vertagano> bluetooth-wizard never shows and devices; hcitool from the commandline does. Nautilus no longer allows me to connect to my bluetooth devices with obex://[address]  How can I use a GUI to browse and retrieve files?
[02:55] <rainofkayos> xangua: i wanted to be able to play the itunes songs/files from my music player as well
[02:55] <danc3> valued: man cp
[02:56] <danc3> valued: man tar
[02:56] <rainofkayos> lol
[02:56] <valued> funny.
[02:56] <rainofkayos> it is true
[02:56] <danc3> what's funny?
[02:56] <valued> i'd been looking for something like partimage, but it seems not to be part of the latest toolkit.
[02:56] <rainofkayos> tar and cp would backup a partition fine
[02:56] <office> back to windows 3.11
[02:56] <jrib> valued: partimage should be available...
[02:56] <valued> argh. so only command line?
[02:56] <office> or dos
[02:57] <rainofkayos> gparted
[02:57] <rainofkayos> ?
[02:57] <valued> i have a vista machine i need to backup before the kids mess with it.
[02:57] <valued> isn't gparted just a partition editor?
[02:57] <office> gparted livecd
[02:57] <rainofkayos> oh you want to make a image of an OS thats bootable?
[02:57] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: can you show me output of sudo fdisk -l?
[02:57] <valued> no, i just want a backup so I can restore it if they nuke it.
[02:57] <rainofkayos> just the files then?
[02:57] <valued> it's a new vista machine with no install disks of any sort.
[02:58] <valued> yes. I have a buffalo drive and tried copying, but the drive eventually turns into a read-only device.
[02:58] <ExAstris> Heh. Finally finished setting up my theme
[02:58] <rainofkayos> did you mount with options?
[02:58] <ExAstris> looks nice, too. Sea-blue kind of colors :)
[02:58] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168283/
[02:58] <valued> no, just the defaults from the live cd.
[02:59] <rainofkayos> hmm
[02:59] <valued> my usual machine (kubuntu) is giving me grief trying to back it up similarly.
[02:59] <aaron_> does linux get viruses?
[02:59] <danes_> aaron_, nope
[02:59] <rainofkayos> no
[03:00] <aaron_> why? I mean my ubuntu gets slow at times.
[03:00] <SeligArkin> valued: you could make a raw image of the machine using dd, but that uses alot of space (The amount of space of the hard drive you are copying wioth it)
[03:00] <aaron_> I thought maybe I got a virus.
[03:00] <vertagano> aaron_: It's possible, but very unlikely.
[03:00] <rainofkayos> most likely resources aaron
[03:00] <rainofkayos> a lot things other than a virus can slow you down
[03:00] <rainofkayos> run top
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> aaron_:  why does 'slow' mean viruses?
[03:00] <danes_> anyone knows how can I connect my laptop from terminal to internet using the wireless adapter? I don't have any other internet connection and I need to fix some broken packages
[03:00] <vertagano> aaron_: If you're using WINE, you could have a Windows virus.
[03:00] <aaron_> not using Wine.
[03:00] <rainofkayos> valued: as what user you mount the drive?
[03:00] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: sorry, I don't see the "3~~MiB" that you want to allocate? Where do you see that?
[03:01] <jawall> runnning 9.04 ,, was workign fine now crawwling,, up to 100% cpu usage.. :-(
[03:01] <vertagano> aaron_: Using a program like top or htop could show you what apps are using most of your processor.
[03:01] <Mike_lifeguard> although, I could easily be missing it :P
[03:01] <Deadpool> hey guys.. i have 8 gigs of ram.. i made my swap partition 8gigs too, but i never see any of it being used. should i resize the swap partition?
[03:01] <rainofkayos> and what file system is the drive?
[03:01] <valued> i'd read about using dd. i've played with other tools, but they aren't reliable.
[03:01] <aaron_> when a system slows down it usally means a virus or some software error or many other things.
[03:01] <rainofkayos> Deadpool: if ur not using swap thats not bad
[03:01] <rainofkayos> Deadpool: it means your not using all you memory
[03:01] <aaron_> it can't be hardware resources cause it should be slow since I loaded ubuntu on .
[03:01] <valued> I've tried using 'keep', but there's no docs on it, and I can't restore using it. :-(
[03:01] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, it appears on -> System -> Administration -> system monitor -> File Systems
[03:01] <danc3> valued: as I already told you, use tar/cp
[03:01] <rainofkayos> Deadpool: swap should be i believe 1.5 to 2 times the size of memory
[03:02] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, I know that space is free because I uninstalled several apps
[03:02] <rainofkayos> keep?
[03:02] <Jamed> Deadpool: 8 gig of swap is rally too much
[03:02] <valued> I'll read up on 'cp' and see what the 'backup' option looks like, thanks.
[03:02] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: then that space must be inside a mounted partition
[03:02] <valued> 'tar' has so many options it scares me.
[03:02] <rainofkayos> valued: mount the drive with r/w options as root and tar the partition and cp it to the buffalo
[03:02] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: so the system already has access to that space
[03:02] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, that makes sense
[03:02] <rainofkayos> -cvf
[03:02] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, how can I unmount it?
[03:02] <Jamed> Deadpool: i have 1 and it is used rarely
[03:03] <Deadpool> i have 8gigs of ram... i think that 1.5 to 2x swap space to ram was intended for people with about 512megs of ram.. not 8 gigs
[03:03] <aaron_> ok
[03:03] <rainofkayos> tar -cvf nameoftarfile.tar nameofdirectorytotar
[03:03] <valued> the drive initially mounts with r/w, but after a while becomes read only. it's very irritating.
[03:03] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, or how can I identify the mounted partitions?
[03:03] <Mike_lifeguard> sudo umount /dev/? (or in partition manager, if you want to use gui)
[03:03] <office> danes_, single mode
[03:03] <rainofkayos> valued: what does dmesg say?
[03:03] <Deadpool> im going to google about it
[03:03] <office> and umount
[03:03] <valued> thanks.
[03:03] <valued> how do i query with dmesg?
[03:03] <rainofkayos> with that command
[03:04] <rainofkayos> 'dmesg'
[03:04] <rainofkayos> or even messages
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> valued:  thats a sign that the drive is having issues.. if linux detects an error.. it remounts it read only for safty.
[03:04] <sebsebseb> What's the command I need to fix broken package manager?
[03:04] <rainofkayos> maybe fsck it will help you out then
[03:04] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: broken in what way?
[03:04] <rainofkayos> whats the fs of the drive ntfs?
[03:04] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: can't install updates
[03:04] <valued> hrm... i think it's ntfs which doesn't help.
[03:04] <rainofkayos> why not?
[03:05] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: does it give you a reason?
[03:05] <c0ntract0r> I've followed all the info on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 and still cannot get my soundcard to work. alsa shows no devices. ive added to modules, added my user to audio group, even recompiled.   I'm stuck.  Can anyone help me?
[03:05] <rainofkayos> i would chkdsk the drive from windows and try to mount it again
[03:05] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: although... why do you want to unmount the partition?
[03:05] <Deadpool> i found my answer regarding ram.. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-swap-space.html
[03:05] <valued> no reason, it just starts failing and says stuff is read only.
[03:05] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, well I am not sure if that is taking space
[03:06] <aaron_> Also my open gl dosen't work .
[03:06] <rainofkayos> my ntfs external works fine,, i even play my vbox vms and music from it
[03:06]  * rainofkayos accept my itunes lib
[03:06] <rainofkayos> =(
[03:06] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, anyways, I think there are some mounted partitions that were not unmounted correctly
[03:06] <aaron_> How can you fix open gl
[03:06] <rainofkayos> s/accept/except/
[03:06] <nesrail> anyone that can help with VNC setup?
[03:06] <birk> sure, what's wrong nesrail ?
[03:06] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: unmounting the partition just means you can't access it... it still leaves all the data where it is physically on disk
[03:06] <aaron_> cause I can't  use blender even though I installed it but when I click on it nothing happens.
[03:06] <vertagano> nesrail: What's your VNC problem?
[03:06] <rainofkayos> Mike_lifeguard: precisely
[03:06] <Mike_lifeguard> aaron_: you'll need to be more specific for anyone to help you
[03:07] <birk> nesrail talk here
[03:07] <rainofkayos> <---names aaron too =)
[03:07] <Mike_lifeguard> rainofkayos: precisely what?
[03:07] <aaron_> I  can't get open gl to work. if I try opening any app that uses open gl like blender It won't open at all.
[03:07] <birk> nesrail, you basically just need to set a port
[03:07] <valued> hrm... I'm gonna log off and try 'tar' and see what happens.
[03:07] <valued> thanks again.
[03:07] <birk> run the vnc server, set a port & password on the server
[03:07] <rainofkayos> Mike_lifeguard: was agreeing with what you said about umount
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> and btw, who was having issues with their ntfs filesystem? was that you, rainofkayos?
[03:08] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, ok, I got that. Then my question is: how come, if I made space by uninstalling some apps I am not able to use such space? Is there a place where I can paste a picture?
[03:08] <birk> then from another computer on the vnc client just connect w/ that password
[03:08] <rainofkayos> no
[03:08] <nesrail> birk, is it that simple??
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, ok :o
[03:08] <birk> yes
[03:08] <aaron_> I tried running by terminal and I get a error
[03:08] <nesrail> I need to work on my mothers computer remotely
[03:08] <birk> if you're behind a router, and you're trying to vnc in, you'll have to do some port forwarding w/ the router, but other than that it's that simple
[03:08] <aaron_> from what I found on google. Is that I am having trouble with nvidia drivers.
[03:08] <RedWar> Wazzup
[03:08] <vertagano> bluetooth-wizard never shows and devices; hcitool from the commandline does. Nautilus no longer allows me to connect to my bluetooth devices with obex://[address]  How can I use a GUI to browse and retrieve files?
[03:08] <rainofkayos> hmm
[03:09] <nesrail> birk, is that possible or should I stick with the "msn messenger" way
[03:09] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: you should be able to use all the space available (ie free space in mounted partitions)
[03:09] <office> nesrail, mothers computer is on windows ?
[03:09] <birk> yeah it's possible
[03:09] <nesrail> yes
[03:09] <office> then
[03:09] <office> on windows enable remote desktop
[03:09] <office> on linux use: rdestop mothers.host
[03:10] <rainofkayos> rdesktop baby =)
[03:10] <birk> office, i think he wants vnc not rdc
[03:10] <office> and thats it
[03:10] <office> brik rdp its faster
[03:10] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, exactly. That is my point, but I don't know why, it is not taking the "free space" as free. Where can I paste a picture, so that I can show you the output of system monitor?
[03:10] <office> on linux - windows
[03:10] <birk> that's debatable, but ok :l
[03:10] <nesrail> office, thanks :) i will try that
[03:10] <aaron_> the blender error is :   http://dpaste.com/42541/
[03:11] <Bart-_> hey one question
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> dunno...
[03:11] <Bart-_> i like to login via ssh on my ubuntu 9.04
[03:11] <Bart-_> but i cant till i login in gdm
[03:11] <Bart-_> is that normal?
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> Can someone else let us know where danes_ can post an image? like a pastebin but for images?
[03:11] <rainofkayos> i like setting aliases for all my rdesktop sessions
[03:11] <Bart-_> like i do a normal startup
[03:11]  * Mike_lifeguard is braindead today :)
[03:11] <aaron_> any idea how I can fix this?
[03:11] <Bart-_> then i cant login via ssh till i log in local on the client
[03:11] <Drastic> Mike_lifeguard: tinypic
[03:12] <lflashlnzl> how can i get CCSM for 9.04
[03:12] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, what does lspci|grep audio say about your card unless it a usb card
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: got that? Drastic says tinypic :)
[03:12] <lflashlnzl> *CompizConfig Settings Manager,
[03:12] <xangua> lflashlnzl: Apps> Add/remove
[03:12] <rainofkayos> anyone knows if its possible to play my itunes library in ubuntu 8.10?
[03:13] <rainofkayos> =( i bought it =(
[03:13] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ it says 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 08)
[03:13] <lflashlnzl> xangua, thanks
[03:13] <Drastic> rainofkayos: I presume you mean your music files? What format are they?
[03:13] <rainofkayos> hmm m4a i believe
[03:14] <rainofkayos> i purchased all from itunes store legally
[03:14] <nesrail> anyone figure out the blender-windows-refresh problem?
[03:14] <waglap> my dvd rom on my lappy died to I installed ubuntu via usb drive is there a way for me to mount the vista iso and install it?
[03:14] <Godstrong> is anyone having trouble with screen resolution with 9.04?
[03:14] <rainofkayos> -o loop
[03:14] <J_Wesker> Hi everyone! I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 9.04  both 32 bits and 64 bits.. It's a sudden shutdown after some overheating.. I have a laptop Gateway T1625, with AMD Turio 64 X2.
[03:15] <FloridaGuy>  ( Unable to start settings manager 'Gnome-Settings-Daemon' )
[03:15] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, let me try that
[03:15] <aaron_> how is 9.04? is it safe to upgrade to it?
[03:15] <aaron_> or still has bugs?
[03:15] <office> rainofkayos, -o loop onlny mount image
[03:15] <office> but he dont install vista under ubuntu
[03:15] <Mike_lifeguard> aaron_: I think they all have bugs :)
[03:15] <office> without vbox or smt
[03:15] <RHorse> J_Wesker: have you cleaned out your fan/airholes and around the cpu?
[03:16] <Mike_lifeguard> aaron_: but to be honest, jaunty isn't as stable as intrepid for me... your mileage may vary
[03:16] <rainofkayos> i thought he was trying to make it accesible to something of the likes
[03:16] <rainofkayos> =(
[03:16] <office> J_Wesker, add to grub vista boot image
[03:16] <aaron_> The reason is that I can't run open gl  and  thought maybe if I upgrade I can get it fix. Not sure.
[03:17] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard,  http://i43.tinypic.com/2q83fc4.png
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> this is weird.. I have 3 external usb hard drives attatched to this ubuntu box. i boot up. None are seen (not even by fdisk -l) UNTILL i plug in a 4th one.. then somthing kicks in. and all 4 get seen, and gnome opens up a file manager window for each one.
[03:17] <Drastic> rainofkayos: Rhythymbox will play m4as, I'm pretty sure.
[03:17] <Drastic> Rhythmbox, even
[03:17] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: yes, so that space is empty, and it is mounted normally, and you should be able to write to it
[03:17] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, and a play -l says no sound card found correct?
[03:17] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: *should* ... if you can't, I don't know why that'd be the case :\
[03:17] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ correct
[03:18] <ESphynx> So how do I see all 7z pacakges in synaptic?
[03:18] <aegi> Hi all...  any of you running ubuntu of a T400?
[03:19] <aegi> on a T400 rather
[03:20] <valued> back again. 'tar' failed on a write, something like 'tried to write 1024, only wrote 345 bytes'.
[03:20] <xrl> ??
[03:20] <Mike_lifeguard> ESphynx: do you see all the packages now? just enter 7z into the quick search box
[03:20] <valued> so it looks like there's problems with my USB drive.
[03:21] <xrl> 嗨，有人吗？
[03:21] <ESphynx> Why do I get only 2 packages?
[03:21] <superboy_> whats a good shooter online game on ubuntu?
[03:21] <ESphynx> Mike_lifeguard I just get 2! btw this is the netbook remix 9.04
[03:21] <ABoba> superboy, i already answered your question
[03:21] <Mike_lifeguard> xrl: what language is that? zh?
[03:21] <ABoba> see here http://whdb.com/2008/top-25-linux-games-for-2008/
[03:22] <ESphynx> xrl 你好
[03:22] <Mike_lifeguard> !zh
[03:22] <Mike_lifeguard> (maybe)
[03:23] <FloridaGuy> ((((( unable to start settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon' )))))
[03:23] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, have you tried to install the module snd-card-ens1371
[03:23] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, I have been looking how to fix this, but cannot find any solution :(
[03:23] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ , I have installed snd-ens1371, is the snd-card-ens1371 actually a different one?
[03:24] <ESphynx> Mike_lifeguard here's the thing , if I enter 7z in the quicksearch I only get 2, but then if I click 7z in"search results" i see more than 2
[03:24] <danes_> Mike_lifeguard, Thank you for your patience. I'll keep looking
[03:24] <Mike_lifeguard> danes_: I'm sorry I can't help you more
[03:25] <chuck_> yes there is more you need to install will send all in one see if you have them installed
[03:25] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ im not sure how to check, can you help?
[03:25] <mhansen> Hello, I just upgraded to jaunty and am getting an ssl_error_ssl_disabled in Firefox with a "Could not initialize security component" on startup.  Creating a new profile does not fix things.  I don't get the error with a build of 3.5.
[03:26] <newuser> hello,  about to install 9.04....but cant decide whether to go 32 or 64 bit on this Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600.  Will be using this pc to surf the net, run virtualbox (xp guest), etc.
[03:27] <newuser> I have 32 bit on other pc's, but need some sound advice.  Any suggestions?
[03:27] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, sudo modprobe snd-card-ens1371
[03:27] <mattgyver> After upgrading to 9.04, my laptop cannot be seen on my network computers until i restart my samba daemon.   log.smbd log shows 'ERROR: Could not determine network interfaces, you must use a interfaces config line ' any ideas?
[03:27] <c0ntract0r> chuck_   FATAL: Module snd_card_ens1371 not found
[03:28] <office> mattgyver, you mut edit smb config
[03:28] <ESphynx> synaptic is stalling :P
[03:28] <mattgyver> office, i have
[03:28] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, you need to recompile alsa with that card enabled
[03:28] <newuser> hello,  about to install 9.04....but cant decide whether to go 32 or 64 bit on this Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600.  Will be using this pc to surf the net, run virtualbox (xp guest), etc.  Advice?
[03:28] <office> and put here correct network interface
[03:28] <mattgyver> office, when i edit the smb.conf interfaces line my computer does not boot into x, it fails on starting samba service.
[03:29] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ i already did that :(
[03:29] <office> ex. eth0
[03:29] <FloridaGuy> must be the invisable man today...been asking the same ? off and on sence 9 a.m and now 10:30 p.m....cant start settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon"
[03:29] <bcmorr2> Anyone suggest a .pdf reader with a small footprint?
[03:29] <Mike_lifeguard> bcmorr2: the default "document viewer" does a good job
[03:29] <Mike_lifeguard> much smaller than adobe
[03:29] <bcmorr2> Mike_lifeguard: I don't have any of the default packages installed
[03:30] <Mike_lifeguard> ahh... I think it's called literally "document viewer"
[03:30] <newuser> hello,  about to install 9.04....but cant decide whether to go 32 or 64 bit on this Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600.  Will be using this pc to surf the net, run virtualbox (xp guest), etc.
[03:30] <office> bcmorr2, scribd.com
[03:31] <Computer_Man> is there a linux app for windows remote desktop?
[03:31] <mattgyver> computer_man, remote desktop viewer
[03:31] <unop> Computer_Man,  tsclient
[03:31] <office> Computer_Man, rdesktop
[03:31] <danc3> vnc
[03:31] <FloridaGuy> i dont want to have to install my system for 1 problem..but looks like i might have to
[03:31] <bcmorr2> office: ?
[03:32] <danc3> FloridaGuy: huh?
[03:32] <FloridaGuy> danc3, unable to start settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'
[03:33] <Mike_lifeguard> FloridaGuy: that should never be necessary, really... but I don't know why you're getting that error, so I've not offered to help :)
[03:33] <billybigrigger> newuser::: i would go 64bit, thats just me
[03:33] <billybigrigger> newmember::: my pc's both run 64bit with no problems
[03:33] <Computer_Man> so the linux remote desktop will allow xp's remote desktop to see my linux box?
[03:33] <billybigrigger> newuser::: 1 desktop, 1 laptop, both 64bit, 0 show stopper probs for me
[03:33] <ESphynx> newuser : why not go 64 ?
[03:33] <office> Computer_Man, no
[03:34] <mattgyver> computer_man, yes, but you will need x11vnc as well installed on the linux machine, as well as tightvncserver
[03:34] <office> Computer_Man, linux rdesktop its only a client
[03:34] <newuser> ESphynx fear of the unknown?  :-[
[03:34] <ESphynx> step in bravely :)
[03:34] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: System>Preferences>Remote Desktop configure that, and then connect from your windows client, its simple and easy, takes 2 mins to setup a remote desktop
[03:34] <FloridaGuy> Mike_lifeguard, sudo gnome-settings-daemon ..(gnome-settings-daemon:5473): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed
[03:35] <hint> im in bash and i've an error in this line: if [ $# -ge 2 -a $2 = "-r" ]; then .... the error is "[... to many arguments", anyone can helpme?
[03:35] <Mike_lifeguard> update glib? I seriously have no idea, sorry
[03:35] <Computer_Man> ok thank you.
[03:36] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: you know you have to forward the port right?
[03:36] <framp> test
[03:36] <Computer_Man> was looking at that.
[03:36] <newuser> iso for 64 bit says amd....does it matter that I have Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600?
[03:36] <billybigrigger> newuser::: nope
[03:36] <Computer_Man> sorry bit new to linux world
[03:37] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: linux, mac, windows, port forwarding is basic networking
[03:37] <Guiri> I'm looking for a way to authenticate multiple pages like Torrentflux and a wiki under one login. Is a CMS the way to go?
[03:37] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: check your router's documentation or google your router + port forwarding
[03:37] <office> Guiri, joomla
[03:37] <Computer_Man> was figuring that.
[03:38] <Computer_Man> i'm just new to the command line stuff and some of the diff's.
[03:38] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: roger
[03:38] <Computer_Man> just got tired of MS products and wanting to step into something new.
[03:38] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, modinfo|gep snd make sure you have these installed  snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss  snd_seq_midi or you can just modprobe each one to make sure
[03:38] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: wait...
[03:38] <office> something new..
[03:38] <Computer_Man> ok
[03:38] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: i was just looking at the Remote Desktop app again, you can click the checkbox that says automatically configure network for incoming connections
[03:39] <Guiri> office: I'll check it out. I just want to create an authentication page for the directory, beyond which they can access all the sites.
[03:39] <waglap>  my dvd rom on my lappy died so I installed ubuntu via usb drive is there a way for me to mount the vista iso and install it?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> waglap:  not that ive ever seen/herd of.. perhaps ask in #windows
[03:39] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: you shouldn't have to screw with your router/port forwarding
[03:39] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: welcome to ubuntu!
[03:39] <Fezzler> I have wired and wireless on my Ubuntu PC.  How do I make one the default
[03:39] <waglap> Dr_Willis I am running ubuntu how would they help me?
[03:39] <office> Guiri, you cant do tha without cms
[03:40] <billybigrigger> waglap::: you want to install vista in a virtual machine?
[03:40] <office> Guiri, apache - htpasswd
[03:40] <Computer_Man> thanks.....
[03:40] <billybigrigger> waglap::: or you want to install vista over ubuntu and go back to windows?
[03:40] <Fezzler> right now wireless is the default after boot up, I'd like wired to be
[03:40] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: np
[03:40] <lflashlnzl> i have 4gigs mem, but using 32bit ubunutu, was wondering about 64bit ubuntu is it any good or should i wait a little while?
[03:40] <Computer_Man> my biggest thing is some of the command line commands.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> waglap:  they know about windows and alternative installing.. we dont.
[03:40] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: the more you use the command line, the easier it gets
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> waglap:  there might be some 'put windows on a thumbdrive and install it from there' tool
[03:41] <waglap> billybigrigger: I have ubuntu installed but I can't install vista by the dvd rom but I have the iso on the desktop just wondered if I could mount the iso and install it
[03:41] <lflashlnzl> billybigrigger, thats is so true lernt more about linux though command line
[03:41] <Computer_Man> friend keeps telling me sudo commands and 'get' commands but mine just kicks it back.
[03:41] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: fyi cli = command line interface if anyone ever tells you to run a command in cli or anything...just my tip of the day :P
[03:41] <keith> lflashlnzl: I am using 64 bit and have had no difficulties
[03:41] <beornlake> I'm looking to setup a PPTP server on my Ubuntu 9.04 VPS (Xen), and need to know about setting up a virtual network interface for pptpd to hook the clients up to - I only have my one internet-facing en0 interface - hit me with a PM if you'd like
[03:41] <billybigrigger> waglap::: ???
[03:41] <Computer_Man> cli is the same as terminal right?
[03:41] <billybigrigger> waglap::: you want to install vista and use it in a virtual machine inside ubuntu? or you hate ubuntu and want to go back to windows?
[03:41] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: yes
[03:42] <Computer_Man> by the way i'm running MINT but hear is no diffs.
[03:42] <lflashlnzl> keith, im still learning linux, should i want to till i understand it more?
[03:42] <Computer_Man> ok thanks.
[03:42] <waglap> billybigrigger: I dont hate ubuntu I want to have the hd partition and have both but the dvd rom doesnt work
[03:42] <billybigrigger> Computer_Man::: mint is a derivative of ubuntu, so yes, same thing
[03:42] <billybigrigger> waglap::: you need to format, install windows first...then install ubuntu as a dua boot setup
[03:43] <waglap> the DVD DOM DOESNT WORK
[03:43] <waglap> ROM*
[03:43] <billybigrigger> haha its windows dvd right?
[03:43] <office> waglap, do you have pendrive ?
[03:43] <fsirc34> is it appropriate to ask for tech help here?
[03:43] <jaypur> i cant install ubuntu on a pavillion with a vista, i'd like to remove vista and run ubuntu and xp, but neither of them are installing...
[03:43] <office> waglap, can you boot from usb?
[03:43] <waglap> office I have ubuntu installed already I want to mount the vista iso and install it
[03:44] <jaypur> does someone had that kind of problem???
[03:44] <waglap> since vista doesnt install via usb
[03:44] <fsirc34> anyone can slove the skype problem on ubuntu?
[03:44] <billybigrigger> waglap::: you are missing my points
[03:44] <fsirc34> anyone can solve the skype problem on ubuntu?
[03:44] <office> then get smart boot maganer
[03:44] <office> or any else boot manager
[03:44] <fsirc34> i cannot use my mike
[03:44] <jaypur> how do i install ubuntu on a laptop that has already vista?
[03:44] <office> and boot vista from image
[03:45] <office> jaypur, resize windows partition
[03:45] <Drastic> jaypur: What do you mean by 'neither of them are installing'?
[03:45] <fsirc34> anyone can solve the skype problem on ubuntu?
[03:45] <office> jaypur, install ubuntu
[03:45] <billybigrigger> jaypur::: do you have your partitions setup? you need 1 windows partition and 1 ubuntu partition
[03:45] <waglap> office will it work? I mean the bios wont see it?
[03:45] <danc3> jaypur: wipe out the vista crap and install over it
[03:45] <beornlake> hello everyone - can anybody help me with setting up a virtual network interface on my 9.04 install?
[03:45] <billybigrigger> danc3::: roger that
[03:45] <office> waglap, bios dosent mater
[03:46] <jaypur> billybigrigger, i have done a little partition and formated it from ntfs, should i create other without formating?
[03:46] <fsirc34> anyone can solve the skype problem on ubuntu?
[03:46] <waglap> billybigrigger: there is no such thing as a windows dvd rom and I couldnt install vista from the rom because it doesnt work and I told you that 5 times so your right I dont get your point
[03:46] <office> waglap, you boot from usb pen
[03:46] <billybigrigger> waglap::: ok, i still dont get you
[03:46] <lflashlnzl> fsirc34, what you problems
[03:46] <waglap> office widows wont boot from a usb?
[03:46] <billybigrigger> waglap::: there is such thing as a windows DVD
[03:46] <fsirc34> no mike sound
[03:46] <office> waglap, no !
[03:46] <newuser> When doing a fresh install of ubuntu, is it best to have your home folder in it own partition?  Does this make upgrading/updating or reinstalling the next version of ubuntu easier??
[03:46] <fsirc34> i have no idea how t ouse it
[03:46] <billybigrigger> waglap::: and if you can't install vista's ROM then delete it
[03:46] <billybigrigger> waglap::: delete windows while your at it
[03:46] <office> waglap, you must get smart boot manager and put on this pendrive
[03:46] <waglap> office ok so I mount the iso and then tell it to install and it should go through?
[03:47] <lflashlnzl> fsirc34, wht do you mean, have you installed it?
[03:47] <waglap> aha
[03:47] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, i messed up the command should be lsmod|grep snd not modinfo
[03:47] <fsirc34> yep. i can hear myself on the mike on my computer, but skype doesnt take in sound from mike
[03:47] <office> waglap, yopu boot smart boot manager from pendrive then you choose iso windows imagbe
[03:47] <waglap> so I can force the vista iso onto a usb?
[03:47] <office> and boot it from smart boot manager
[03:47] <billybigrigger> waglap::: ya try that
[03:47] <ubugtu> could anyone tell me how to kill a program running in the foreground of another program?
[03:47] <waglap> thanks office
[03:47] <waglap> ill try it now
[03:47] <lflashlnzl> fsirc34, have you check the sound settings on your soundcard...
[03:48] <office> a hope you understand
[03:48] <fsirc34> i have changed them about 20 times
[03:48] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ i do have all of those installed.
[03:48] <billybigrigger> waglap::: and next time take your windows questions to #windows
[03:48] <fsirc34> it only works when i put it on pulse
[03:48] <office> my english its not good :)
[03:48] <fsirc34> but the mike does not
[03:48] <vertagano> bluetooth-wizard never shows any devices; hcitool from the commandline does. Nautilus no longer allows me to connect to my bluetooth devices with obex://[address]  How can I use a GUI to browse and retrieve files?
[03:48] <waglap> billybigrigger: it was a ubuntu question since I am currently running ubuntu and needed to mount in UBUNTU and you suck at helping
[03:49] <billybigrigger> waglap::: no, you suck at understanding
[03:49] <billybigrigger> waglap::: i told you if you want to install vista, YOU NEED TO INSTALL IT FIRST, before ubuntu
[03:49] <waglap> you told me to install windows and I had already said the dvd rom was broken der
[03:49] <fsirc34> i found a couple of solutions online, i tried them ,but none works
[03:49] <Computer_Man> so can anyone tell me why 'sudo apt-get install' don't work for me in cli?
[03:49] <billybigrigger> waglap::: you don't listen very well
[03:49]  * Dr_Willis gives billybigrigger  an award for patience.
[03:49] <fsirc34> how do i check my sound card directly?
[03:49] <office> billybigrigger, ???
[03:49] <billybigrigger> waglap::: there's no point of mounting a vista (probably pirated) .iso in ubuntu
[03:49] <ubugtu> could anyone tell me how to kill a fullscreen program running in the foreground of another program?
[03:49] <office> billybigrigger, becouse ?
[03:49] <lflashlnzl> fsirc34, is mic not mike... have a look @ this site, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=353053
[03:49] <billybigrigger> waglap::: unless... you want to run it in a VM
[03:50] <fsirc34> cool
[03:50] <fsirc34> iĺl look
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> ubugtu:  if it has a window, you could use the 'xkill' command. (use it carefully!)
[03:50] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, while you where doing that i found this http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-ens1371 i do not know if you tried it yet but it might be worth looking at
[03:50]  * billybigrigger accepts Dr_Willis's award
[03:50] <office> billybigrigger, why i must install vista first before ubuntu ?
[03:50] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ i will go try right now :)
[03:50] <ubugtu> Dr_Willis: how do i bring up that little box so i can type in the xkill command?
[03:50] <billybigrigger> office::: becuase windows will overwrite grub, and you won't be able to dual boot ubuntu and windows
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> ubugtu:  alt-f2 i think
[03:51] <office> billybigrigger, so what
[03:51] <waglap> billybigrigger> haha its windows dvd right?  youre very dumb and no its not a hacked version dim wit
[03:51] <newuser> When doing a fresh install of ubuntu, is it best to have your home folder in it own partition?  Does this make upgrading/updating or reinstalling the next version of ubuntu easier??
[03:51] <ubugtu> Dr_Willis: i tried that
[03:51] <office> billybigrigger, i can boot from cd aand edit grub
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> ubugtu:  be carefull where ya click when ya run xkill :)
[03:51] <billybigrigger> waglap::: ok, if its a windows dvd, then why do you need to mount it in ubuntu if your not using it in a virtual machine?
[03:51] <billybigrigger> waglap::: who's dumb now?
[03:51] <XiXaQ> when you uninstall applications using gnome app-install, does it purge of just remove the application?
[03:51] <ubugtu> Dr_Willis: why? what does xkill do?
[03:51] <waglap> ./ignore billybigrigger
[03:51] <Megarain> Any one got the options snd-hda-intel info for an Dell XPS m1530?
[03:52] <fsirc34> I will work on it. Thanks!
[03:52] <billybigrigger> office::: ok, then you explain booting the livecd and editing grub to waglap then, cause im sure not doing it :P
[03:52] <beornlake> hello - relatively new to Ubuntu, and I have a question about setting up a virtual network interface for a VPN server - anyone here able to help possibly?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> ubugtu:  kills whatever program you click on next. :)
[03:52] <newuser> waglap, are you wanting to install VIsta and ditch ubuntu?  Basically?
[03:52] <FUbbyCD> hey
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> ubugtu:  see the pointer change to a skull& crossbones? :) whatever clicks on next.. dies.. nasty and dirty
[03:52] <walid599> linuxac#
[03:53] <waglap> newuser no
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> ubugtu:  use right click to cancle
[03:53] <FUbbyCD> i fubbyd up my graphics settings. and it does not shoe the 1024 x 768 option anymore
[03:53] <FUbbyCD> how do i reset to default
[03:53] <ubugtu> thanks
[03:53] <newuser> waglap then get your dvd drive fixed.  I can think of no easy way for you to install vista at this point.
[03:54] <office> waglap, but new cd
[03:54] <billybigrigger> waglap::: k, lets start from the beginning...i'm here to help you, not argue with you, so if your asking for help, listen...now are you trying to install WINDOWS ONLY, or DUAL-BOOT???
[03:54] <newuser> also billybugger is right, you should install vista first, then add ubuntu if you want both.
[03:54] <FUbbyCD> hay
[03:54] <Chaorain> I'm trrying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a 1.5 TB HDD. Installs just fine but won't boot.  No error message. Help?
[03:54] <billybigrigger> Chaorain::: did you skip the usplash and look for errors?
[03:55] <billybigrigger> Chaorain::: or do you even get to usplash?
[03:55] <Chaorain> no
[03:55] <mikea> Hey guys
[03:55] <billybigrigger> Chaorain::: do you see grub start?
[03:55] <mikea> is there an easy way to associate files in gnome with a wine application
[03:55] <waglap> dvd rom is dead I have the vista iso ubuntu was installed via usb drive.......... I want to install vista along with the ubuntu thats already installed
[03:55] <ubugtu> Dr_Disk: alt+F2 didnt work
[03:55] <office> Chaorain, remove splash quiet
[03:55] <Chaorain> It goes through the bios and no messages
[03:55] <office> Chaorain, add debug
[03:55] <Chaorain> where?
[03:55] <mikea> for example assigning .doc files to open with MS word instead of Oo.org?
[03:55] <ubugtu> Dr_Willis: alt+f2 didnt work
[03:56] <FUbbyCD> how do you reset video settings to default my ubuntu does not show 1024 x 768 anymore
[03:56] <yoyoned> mikea: right click on the fiel
[03:56] <Chaorain> on the live cd boot screen?
[03:56] <Drastic> waglap: your drive is dead, or your vista DVD is?
[03:56] <FUbbyCD> and i remember fixing it before by deleting something
[03:56] <billybigrigger> ubugtu::: alt-f2 *should* bring up the run command dialog box, but it doesn't work on my machine either since 9.04
[03:56] <newuser> waglap, no easy way to do that unless you have an external or other dvd/cd drive that works.
[03:56] <office> FUbbyCD, dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf
[03:56] <waglap> drive
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> mikea:  i think ive seen it done by using a 'script' that  calls wine with the right options/paths. and you assoicate  a file wit that script.
[03:56] <FUbbyCD> thankyou
[03:56] <FUbbyCD> u da man
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> mikea:  seen an example of tht for firefox and using 'wine utorrent.exe'
[03:56] <lflashlnzl> waglap, reinstall vista then install ubuntu you can make a USB vista install if you want... anywhere close to what you want?
[03:56] <ubugtu> ubuntu has turned into ubugtu since 9.04
[03:56] <mikea> yoyoned: the problem is there isn't a program listed for word, even though there are launchers in the menu..
[03:57] <billybigrigger> waglap::: you could always run windows inside ubuntu through a virtual machine like i said about 5 times
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> Package `xorg.conf' is not installed and no info is available.
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:57] <blind> Dr_Willis: That works? Having firefox use 'wine utorrent.exe' for torrent files?
[03:57] <Chaorain> office, Grub doesn't t even load I am puting it in a /boot partition (Ext2 600 MB)
[03:57] <waglap> billybigrigger: ok so I will but how do I do that if I only have the iso?
[03:57] <ubugtu> how do you get the dialog box to work
[03:57] <office> FUbbyCD, fuck
[03:57] <office> sorry
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> blind:  the script had a few other things i recall.. I never tried it.
[03:57] <billybigrigger> waglap::: easy, install virtual box
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> np
[03:57] <office> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:57] <office> with sudo
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> that would be it
[03:57] <FUbbyCD> thanks
[03:57] <waglap> ok billybigrigger I will give it a go
[03:57] <yoyoned> mikea: what type of file are you trying to open.  Can you just use openoffice
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> blind:  but that was the core of the idea.. assoicate the .torrent with the 'usetorrent.sh' script
[03:58] <mikea> yoyoned: OpenOffice works, but meh, I prefer office 2k7 :-)
[03:58] <teapot> Hey guys. Can anyone help me get UPnP working with Android and XBMC on Jaunty? UPnP was already enabled in the router and I enabled it in XBMC but AndroMote still fails to pick up on the server.
[03:58] <mikea> I atleast want it to be an "Open With..." option for files that don't open right in oo.rg
[03:59] <newuser> waglap what windows/vista apps are you needing or wanting to run?  Gaming?  Work programs?
[03:59] <FUbbyCD> lemme log in and out
[03:59] <office> Chaorain, maybe you smothing doing not rihght installing grub
[03:59] <vertagano> mikea: If you open the menu launchers in a text editor, you should be able to see the commandline used to launch Word....
[04:00] <mikea> vertagano: yeah, I was just hoping that there was a way to use the launcher
[04:00] <beornlake> anyone able to answer some networking questions for Server?
[04:00] <jaypur> so, to remove vista and put ubuntu, i need to locate a space, and then boot with ubuntu?
[04:00] <billybigrigger> beornlake::: #ubuntu-server ???
[04:00] <office> hehe
[04:00] <mattgyver> Is there a similar command like dir /p, or dir /w in msdos, for terminal??
[04:01] <office> mattgyver, comands | more
[04:01] <beornlake> billybigrigger thanks
[04:01] <office> or less
[04:01] <Drastic> jaypur: install XP over vista
[04:01] <Drastic> jaypur: leave a partition to install ubuntu on
[04:01] <office> mattgyver, ls -las |more
[04:01] <Drastic> jaypur: If you want to dual boot between XP and ubuntu, that is
[04:01] <office> example
[04:02] <teapot> Excuse me, can anyone help me get UPnP working?
[04:02] <jaypur> Drastic, ive tried but it got a problem... but if i do the patition way, will it be ok?
[04:02] <Drastic> jaypur: What was the problem?
[04:02] <poningru> teapot, what are you trying to do?
[04:02] <civpro> how do i start gnome desktop?
[04:02] <jaypur> Drastic, it wasnt installing any of those systems (xp and ubuntu)
[04:02] <XiXaQ> mattgyver, everything and anything you can find in ms-dos is available in ubuntus terminal, and much more. Different syntaxes and command names though :)
[04:03] <jaypur> Drastic, now i got a full partition free, and another with vista....
[04:03] <zeltikon> i just installed an osx theme for ubuntu. is there a way to get the close, min, and max buttons on the left side of the window frame?
[04:03] <bronyaur> will gdesklets ever work with 9.04??
[04:03] <Drastic> jaypur: OK, so stick your XP disc in, reboot and install XP like you would normally. When you get to the partitioning bit delete all your partitions, then create a new one for XP and leave the rest of the space free
[04:03] <office> XiXaQ, 80% person on this # never see msdos
[04:03] <office> ;)
[04:03] <civpro> how do i start the gnome desktop?
[04:03] <criminy> !pulseaudio
[04:03] <teapot> poningru: I'm trying to get my Android phone to control the XBMC media center. According to the website it works, but it provides no instructions whatsoever and Google has been unhelpful.
[04:04] <XiXaQ> office, I'm sure :)
[04:04] <poningru> uh...
[04:04] <Drastic> jaypur: Then when you install ubuntu you should create a new partition in the free space (don't install side by side, create a new partition for it)
[04:04] <jaypur> Drastic, yeah, thats my plan, let me see if it works now.... ill let ya know!
[04:04] <poningru> you have xbmc running on ubuntu or an xbox?
[04:04] <Drastic> jaypur: Good luck :P
[04:04] <chuck_> civpro, gdm start
[04:04] <civpro> chuck thanks
[04:05] <Drastic> jaypur: I did it the other day, actually, but not over Vista
[04:05] <jaypur> Dragnslcr, for real man, thats really sux, we buy a new pc, and we got that crap... vista...
[04:05] <teapot> poningru: I'm using AndroMote. Or rather, trying to.
[04:05] <chuck_> civpro, wait start gdm sorry
[04:05] <civpro> oh ok
[04:05] <danes_> hello, I need help. I had the disk full, then I made some space, but the free space is not being recognized and therefore is not available. What can I do? look -> http://i43.tinypic.com/2q83fc4.png
[04:05] <jaypur> Drastic, for real man, thats really sux, we buy a new pc, and we got that crap... vista...
[04:05] <E3b> hello all, how can I continue something (like using TAB) on !something (from bash_history), I mean, when I write "!ls" on cli, it's giving me the last command that I wrote from bash_history (for example "ls -la" ) I want to know how can I TAB it.. for complete the command before running it
[04:05] <jaypur> Dragnslcr, sorry wrong message
[04:05] <poningru> teapot, uh doesnt answer my question
[04:06] <poningru> but you have to install upnp support for xbmc
[04:06] <poningru> do you have babylon xbmc?
[04:06] <Drastic> jaypur: Happy to say I've never used Vista :P
[04:06] <teapot> poningru: Ah, there was no indication of that when enabling that.
[04:06] <roy_hobbs> Should /etc/network/if-up.d still be used? I can't find anything about it in the manpage for ifup or ifconfig, or anything like that
[04:06] <ScottG> Could someone look at this and tell me how I could form the logic? http://privatepaste.com/221GqNdlOo
[04:07] <bronyaur> Drastic, I just switched from vista...it sux
[04:07] <teapot> poningru: when enabling UPnP.... I need sleep.
[04:07] <pakowashere> ??
[04:07] <jaypur> Drastic, unfortenetly i am using, and ill tell you something... this is one of the worst things i have ever tried in a computer...
[04:08] <jaypur> Drastic, o my god
[04:08] <jaypur> Drastic, an error again... damn man....
[04:08] <Drastic> jaypur: What error?
[04:08] <poningru> teapot, http://xbmc.org/wiki/index.php?title=UPnP_Sharing
[04:08] <poningru> did you read through that?
[04:09] <mobi-sheep> !bridge
[04:09] <jaypur> Drastic, it was in the loading to install windows, and it got... "a problem has been detected..."
[04:09] <danes_> hello, I need help. I had the disk full, then I made some space, but the free space is not being recognized and therefore is not available. What can I do? look -> http://i43.tinypic.com/2q83fc4.png
[04:09] <jaypur> Drastic, i think the same is happening to ubuntu... an error....
[04:09] <Drastic> jaypur Are you booting from CD, or starting the install from inside Vista?
[04:09] <teapot> poningru: Yep, I did.
[04:10] <jaypur> Drastic, booting...
[04:10] <jaypur> Drastic, do you want the full message?
[04:10] <lflashlnzl> fsirc34, you there?
[04:10] <Drastic> jaypur: I never get error messages, so I don't know what to do :/
[04:10] <E3b> there is any way to forward msg on pidgin to SMS (using ICQ sms sender)? it's working in SIM-ICQ
[04:10] <Drastic> jaypur: Paste the error message anyway.
[04:10] <jaypur> Drastic, i think im gonna call hp or something
[04:10] <c0ntract0r> This is my dmesg http://nopaste.com/p/aKLDf4OXl      alsa won't work ens-1371 bottom of dmesg shows some errors.
[04:11] <jaypur> Drastic, it is in my laptop
[04:11] <qa321qa123> What?
[04:11] <poningru> teapot, what part is it failing on?
[04:11] <Drastic> jaypur: Ah, of course.
[04:11] <qa321qa123> 全都是外国人吗？
[04:11] <qa321qa123> 全都是外国人吗？
[04:11] <teapot> poningru: The application is failing to detect XBMC
[04:11] <chuck_> !ch
[04:11] <eseven73> !cn | qa321qa123
[04:11] <str> hi all
[04:12] <jaypur> Drastic, it says "error bla bla bla, first time... check for viruses, remove any newly installed hard drivers, make sure it is configured and terminated...... run chkdsk /f for hard drive corruption, and then restart your computer"... but it is a blue screen man....
[04:12] <poningru> teapot, first can you make sure some other controller can see xbmc upnp?
[04:12] <poningru> and assuming you have it going through the wifi
[04:12] <poningru> and not the cell
[04:12] <danes_> I upgraded my netbook with ubuntu netbook edition, but it is not working. It shows an error screen. Unable to open /dev/apgart, drmOpen failed... anyone familiar with this problem???
[04:13] <Drastic> jaypur: Hmm...
[04:13] <danes_> then it freezes and I cant do anything
[04:13] <mkasson> is there an easy gui scp client?
[04:13] <teapot> poningru: Haven't tried another controller.
[04:13] <teapot> poningru: Give me a moment. :)
[04:13] <office> Daniel_G, upgrade modules
[04:13] <jaypur> Drastic, man, i really need to call hp support and ask what the hell did they do....
[04:13] <str> not sure who i should report this to but... there'sa problem with the ubuntu forums... Every page mentons the word "jaunty" now, thanks to some message at the top of the page... this makes for lots of annoying search hits when looking for solutions with jaunty. anyone know who I should mention this to, so it can be made sane?
[04:13] <poningru> teapot, k
[04:13] <civpro> i keep getting mode not supported on first bootup, is there a way around this?
[04:14] <aboucher> can someone help me
[04:14] <Drastic> jaypur: Just as a test, try starting the XP install inside Vista?
[04:14] <Drastic> jaypur: But yeah, sounds like a tech support issue.
[04:14] <jaypur> Drastic, it is a brand new laptop man....
[04:14] <danes_> what is the latest kernel edition?
[04:14] <Computer_Man> how can i install sudo on my linuxmint box?
[04:15] <aboucher> in ubuntu 8.10 it types6 i6n randojms6 le7yujhnttrh'em
[04:15] <poningru> probably a question for the linuxmint people
[04:15] <poningru> aboucher, what?
[04:15] <office> danes_, you have kernel-hearder ?
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: i believe sudo is default on Mint.. but its been a while since i used it
[04:15] <danes_> office, how can I know that?
[04:15] <aboucher> in u67buntu it6 typesin random letters
[04:15] <poningru> Ciantic, whats wrong?
[04:15] <poningru> err civpro ^^
[04:15] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: Mint is more or less ubuntu w/ a different GUI
[04:16] <Computer_Man> well sudo apt-get install don't work in cli
[04:16] <danes_> office, I was trying to update my system, but something went wrong I think with the kernel, and startx does not work anymore
[04:16] <Computer_Man> of course cd don't either.
[04:16] <office> danes_, apt-get install linux-2.6.*(new kernel)-herader
[04:16] <poningru> aboucher, and your machine doesnt do that in other os?
[04:16] <Computer_Man> i'm not sure if i don't have jacked install.
[04:16] <jaypur> Drastic, should i try ubntu or xp?
[04:16] <aboucher> no
[04:16] <office> danes_, ayes
[04:16] <poningru> danes_, whatst he error you get?
[04:16] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: what error are you getting when you run sudo apt-get install
[04:17] <poningru> whats*
[04:17] <office> danes_, you dont have kernel modules
[04:17] <billybigrigger_> jaypur::: obviously ubuntu
[04:17] <office> danes_, from new kernel
[04:17] <aboucher> it does it every once in a few days and it annoys the heck out of me
[04:17] <Drastic> jaypur: XP first
[04:17] <danes_> /dev/apgart, drmOpen...
[04:17] <danes_> how can I fix that?
[04:17] <teapot> poningru: Downloading libupnp4 and gupnp-tools didn't help...
[04:17] <Drastic> jaypur: You need to do XP first for an XP/Ubuntu dual boot
[04:17] <billybigrigger_> Drastic jaypur haha ill stay out of your convo, i jumped in and wasnt reading all of it :P
[04:18] <debacle> i just installed hardy as a webserver, and am having problems getting it to see the windows network. I cannot ping any machine, but I can ftp to it and html works. anyone available to give me a hand?
[04:18] <jaypur> Drastic, but can i install xp inside vista and then delete vista?
[04:18] <debacle> i been browsing tutorials last few hours and nothing helps
[04:18] <teapot> poningru: Don't actually have another device that I can use, unless I download XBMC on a laptop which could take a while.
[04:18] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: i suspect youve done something wrong if youc an't use sudo on Mint, because it should work fine
[04:18] <office> danes_, you must install corectly new kernel
[04:18] <poningru> cant you use laptop as a controller?
[04:18] <danes_> if I try to apt-get install linux-2.6.* would that fix my problem?
[04:19] <billybigrigger_> danes_::: no
[04:19] <office> 2.6 its too overall
[04:19] <Drastic> jaypur: You'll only be starting the install process inside Vista - it'll reboot once you've started it and you should be able to choose to install it over Vista (if you don't get another error)
[04:19] <Computer_Man> hmm.....sudo apt-get install by it self did what i awas told would be the same as sudo apt-get updates.
[04:19] <office> you must know what kernel you have
[04:19] <danes_> billybigrigger_, then, how could
[04:19] <Computer_Man> or looks like it.
[04:19] <danes_> I fix it?
[04:19] <c0ntract0r> What does this mean when installing alsa pkgs     dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[04:19] <c0ntract0r>  syntax error: unknown group `mlocate' in statoverride file
[04:19] <office> danes_, uname -r
[04:19] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: well sudo apt-get install   is not gonna do anything, you have to tell it to install something
[04:19] <jaypur> Drastic, the install button is off... man im really sad right now
[04:19] <billybigrigger_> danes_::: uname -r will give you current kernel version
[04:19] <Drastic> jaypur: :/
[04:20] <danes_> I have 2.6.28-11-generic
[04:20] <str> not sure who i should report this to but... there's a problem with the ubuntu forums... Every page mentions the word "jaunty" now, thanks to some message at the top of the page... this makes for lots of annoying search hits when looking for solutions with jaunty. anyone know who I should mention this to, so it can be made sane?
[04:20] <Computer_Man> ok....will have to surf for something cool to install.
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> Computer_Man: do you have the Mint GUI?
[04:20] <jaypur> Drastic, if i dont get linux in that computer ill get my money back or something....
[04:20] <Computer_Man> yes
[04:20] <danes_> could you guys help me to fix it?
[04:20] <IndyGunFreak> just install something simple.. sudo apt-get install audacious
[04:20] <lump> hey
[04:21] <office> danes_, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic
[04:21] <office> danes_, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-10-generic
[04:21] <Drastic> jaypur: Pretty shoddy if you can't install another OS over Vista...
[04:21] <str> the secret, is to not install vista.
[04:21] <office> tfu
[04:21] <str> :D
[04:21] <jaypur> Drastic, but for real man, thanks a lot for the help...
[04:22] <newuser> which file system to go with on new install of 9.04 64 bit.....ext 2, 3, or 4???
[04:22] <danes_> office,  all right. Now I have a small problem. My internet is only wireless because I am sharing it with my neighbor, but he is not home right now. How can I connect from terminal using the wifi card?
[04:22] <ienorand> str: jaunty, in what way?
[04:22] <Drastic> jaypur: np, sorry you couldn't get the install done
[04:22] <ssj4Gogeta> I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 and now in my grub menu there are 4 new entries in addition to the old 8.10 entry. the new entries are called 9.04 and then what I think is a kernel number.
[04:22] <jaypur> Drastic, now ill try to talk to hp
[04:22] <ssj4Gogeta> the two have different kernel numbers
[04:23] <office> danes_, wifi card are working ?
[04:23] <Computer_Man> if my cli shows administrator....is the highest in the file system i can get is my personal directory?
[04:23] <promptscreen55> hey guys
[04:23] <office> danes_, installed and working /
[04:23] <office> ?
[04:23] <promptscreen55> anyone here play fifa 09 on ps3
[04:23] <danes_> office, they were before updating. I cannot tell anymore because of the problem
[04:23] <jlaroche> Could anyone help me get my sound blaster audigy 4 working in ubuntu 9.04 64 bit. It was working great, but suddenly stopped working two days ago.
[04:23] <ssj4Gogeta> so now there are 5 ubuntu entries: 8.04, 9.04 kernel something -7 and 9.04 kernel something -11 and their safe modes
[04:23] <newuser> ssj4Gogeta not really a problem, but you could edit menu.lst if you dont want all four there and just comment out the ones you want ignored
[04:23] <office> danes_, show me: iwconfig
[04:24] <office> danes_, but if you dont have upgrade modules
[04:24] <newuser> which file system to go with on new install of 9.04 64 bit.....ext 2, 3, or 4???
[04:24] <danes_> office, damn, it doesn't show :( only "lo" and eth0
[04:24] <office> i think its wifi dont work
[04:25] <IndyGunFreak> newuser: ext4 is new, and who knows what kind of stability issues it might have, i would stick w/ ext3
[04:25] <str> noone has any idea where to report problems with the ubuntu forums?
[04:25] <danes_> office, then I will have to wait until I get a wired connection, right?
[04:25] <jaypur> i cant install ubuntu over vista in my laptop, what should i do?
[04:25] <office> danes_, you must upgrade system correctly
[04:26] <bobbi> How do i find out what wifi driver im using ?
[04:26] <danes_> office, is there anyway to do it offline? Using my other computer to download the files, then transfer them to my netbook?
[04:26] <IndyGunFreak> bobbi: well what is your wifi device?
[04:26] <chika_cute> haiiiiiiiiiii...............
[04:27] <danes_> chika_cute, hi
[04:27] <office> danes_, you can connect this 2 compuer and share internet connection to netbook
[04:27] <teapot> poningru: Do you know if UPnP can give you remote control of a device like similar to mpd?
[04:27] <chika_cute> hai............jg
[04:27] <danes_> office,  the problem is that I'm newbie and dont know how to do it :s
[04:28] <bobbi> IndyGunFreak : corgea, usb
[04:28] <danes_> office, even if the other computer uses a wireless card?
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> bobbi: that doesn't say a whole lot.
[04:28] <RobAGD> as a quick questino am running ubuntu from a cd, I want to dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb I am having a bit of trouble dealing the the sudo way to gain root permissions to do this
[04:28] <office> danes_, no
[04:28] <poningru> teapot, I thought it was meant more for playing songs from a repository
[04:28] <office> danes_, on cable
[04:28] <office> lan
[04:28] <DaveCo> how practical is it for me to build a cluster computer out of many old computers?
[04:28] <poningru> but I dont know exactly
[04:28] <office> you dont have wifi driver on ubunut
[04:28] <teapot> poningru: I think you're right.
[04:28] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: i've done it lots of times.
[04:28] <RobAGD> DaveCo - depends on what you want to them to do
[04:28] <poningru> as in if you have a upnp server with songs on it your upnp client can play songs from the server
[04:29] <danes_> office, yes, I didn't explain myself. The other computer connects to internet only with wireless card. Can I still make it?
[04:29] <teapot> poningru: Yeah, that's what I thought.
[04:29] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: you just have to have realistic expectations
[04:29] <poningru> so by controller I meant a upnp client
[04:29] <chuck_> DaveCo,  I'd do just to see if it works
[04:29] <office> danes_, if you have ethernet card on this compuer then yes
[04:29] <mobi-sheep__>  Anybody here expert with bridge?  I'm trying to give my Xbox360 a network by connecting the Xbox360 directly to the laptop and the laptop leech off on the Wifi.  I also would like to be able to toggle on/off on the bridging part.
[04:29] <birk> anyone know any good bnc clients for ubuntu ?
[04:29] <teapot> poningru: But there seems to be a few varieties.
[04:29] <bobbi> IndyGunFreak; usb id 07aa:0011
[04:29] <danes_> office, yes I do
[04:29] <poningru> teapot, yes
[04:30] <IndyGunFreak> bobbi: you need to figure out the chipset on the device.
[04:30] <teapot> poningru: I think that's the part that's confusing me =)
[04:30] <poningru> mobi-sheep, what ubuntu version are you running?
[04:30] <chika_cute> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii......
[04:30] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Jaunty.
[04:30] <teapot> poningru: Do you reckon there are any advantages to using that over a samba share?
[04:30] <office> danes_, easiest install new ubunut from cd
[04:30] <debacle> i just installed hardy as a webserver, and am having problems getting it to see the windows network. I cannot ping any machine, but I can ftp to it and html works. anyone available to give me a hand?
[04:31] <debacle> i been browsing tutorials last few hours and nothing helps
[04:31] <office> thats be easiest for you
[04:31] <keith> Why does pressing both alts never seem to switch the keyboard layout for me? Is it possible something else is intercepting that key combo?
[04:31] <_danes_> office, I connected both computers, but forgot that it tried to connect automatically, so it disconnected me from internet
[04:32] <DaveCo> IndyGunFreak, RobAGD well im a student that would like a cheap, fast computer, and i have 4 Pentium 3 computers, and 8 pentium 4 computers, any ideas?
[04:32] <_danes_> office, now I'm back. How can I share the connection?
[04:32] <bobbi> IndyGunFreak:  im trying to see if i can use this driver in intreped,  its working in jaunry
[04:32] <DaveCo> IndyGunFreak RobAGD well im a student that would like a cheap, fast computer, and i have 4 Pentium 3 computers, and 8 pentium 4 computers, any ideas?
[04:32] <bullgard4> What data is stored in /var/log/daemon.log?
[04:33] <Opshlds> Is there an ubuntu for beginners room?
[04:33] <Mike_lifeguard> My swap partition is filling up slowly even though RAM isn't full. And no matter what I do, swap usage doesn't go back down. Is there any way to see what is eating swap space?
[04:33] <fungos> hi
[04:33] <office> _danes_, you not give upgrade this system easiest
[04:33] <donavan_> is there a way to get 8.10 to connect to a preferred wifi connection automatically
[04:33] <bullgard4> Opshlds: I don't think so. At least I have never heard about.
[04:33] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, there is a dns related package you install for it to run
[04:33] <office> _danes_, easiest be install from cd
[04:33] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: top
[04:33] <Esde[irssi]> how do i install TrueCrypt on 9.04?
[04:34] <mobi-sheep__> Opshlds: There are Ubuntu Support documentary and community documentary on the Ubuntu website.  However, if you prefer human support, then you can do so here. :)
[04:34] <Mike_lifeguard> dayo: that shows what each process is using of ram, doesn't it?
[04:34] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, and then you can go into network manager and have it do share connection
[04:34] <Opshlds> Yeah, I def prefer human support?
[04:34] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: What package is that? I tried bridge-utils as outlined in one of the websites recently.
[04:34] <fungos> my father upgraded his ubuntu last night and the wireless stopped working. It is a sis191 (module sis190) but dmesg shows "wlan0: link is not ready" and nothing more. It worked before upgrade.
[04:35] <mobi-sheep__> Opshlds: State your issues.  People here will answer if they know the solution.
[04:35] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, trying to find it
[04:35] <Opshlds> So... I've just installed Hardy Heron 8.04, and Was trying to figure out what kernel version I have?
[04:35] <bhuey> folks, how I can configure my syslog to output the netfilter logs to a seperate file ?
[04:35] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Okay.  Take your time. :)
[04:35] <Opshlds> Is there a terminal command I can use?
[04:35] <_danes_> office, then I'm lost. It is more complicated. I think that I will wait until I get a wired connection.
[04:36] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: yeah
[04:36] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, dnsmasq-base
[04:36] <mobi-sheep__> Opshlds: "uname -a" in the terminal will tell you.
[04:36] <poningru> thats it
[04:36] <Opshlds> Nice
[04:36] <Mike_lifeguard> dayo: and if firefox is eating memory, but killing it reduces ram usage but not swap usage then there's a problem right? I mean... RAM isn't even full, so no swap should be used at all
[04:36] <poningru> well you can install dnsmasq
[04:36] <poningru> but -base isnt the whole thing and I recommend that
[04:36] <_danes_> office, one last thing, how can I connect when using eth0?
[04:36] <chuck_> donavan_, do you have net-work-manager on work panel
[04:37] <Opshlds> Thank You much
[04:37] <chuck_> donavan_, upper panel
[04:37] <RobAGD> as a quick question am running ubuntu from a cd, I want to dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb but I am having a bit of trouble dealing with the sudo way to gain root permissions to do this. Some better suggestions ?
[04:37] <c0ntract0r>  syntax error: unknown group `mlocate' in statoverride file
[04:37] <c0ntract0r> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)       when running sudo apt-get install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils  Does that mean fubard?
[04:38] <office> _danes_, ifconfig eth0 YOURIP up
[04:38] <donavan_> chuck_: yeah I can connect no problem but i want to get it ti do it automatically
[04:38] <office> _danes_, route add default gw GATEWAY IP
[04:38] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: start top     then press 'f'      then press 'p'       it sorts procs according to swap usage.
[04:38] <office> or if you have dhacpd server
[04:38] <office> dhclient3 eth0
[04:38] <Mike_lifeguard> ah, I didn't know it separated swap and ram
[04:38] <_danes_> office, sorry for being such an ignorant, but how can I know my IP?
[04:38] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks
[04:38] <rainofkayos> hmm
[04:38] <poningru> c0ntract0r, do dpkg --configure -a or something like that
[04:38] <rainofkayos> ifconfig
[04:38] <office> huh
[04:39] <Opshlds> Where would my kernel sources directory be located in hardy?
[04:39] <office> /usr/src
[04:39] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: u're welcome
[04:39] <Opshlds> Thank you
[04:39] <garp> ok is Ubuntu going to support the Ati cards that worked great in version 8.10 but don't in 9.04
[04:39] <sacarlson> ﻿RobAGD:  maybe sudo su
[04:39] <c0ntract0r> poningru same prob
[04:39] <garp> is any plans to fix the a
[04:39] <garp> Ati trouble
[04:39]  * rainofkayos scared to upgrade
[04:40] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: why?
[04:40] <DaveCo> does anyone know how to make a computer cluster put of 8 pentium4s and 4 pentium 3s?
[04:40] <rainofkayos> things break
[04:40] <_danes_> office, Ohh I got it. with ifconfig?
[04:40] <rainofkayos> everything works fine for me here now with 8.10
[04:41] <rainofkayos> i would rather test the latest in a VM for a while before i go and upgrade
[04:41] <chika_cute> hiiiiiiii............?
[04:41] <chuck_> donavan_, right click it  click edit connections wireless tap/ left click the one you want to connect to then click edit there should be a tab to connect auto
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: take the Pentium 4, add any compatible memory from the others, take the biggest hard drive, make it the master, if you need another one, make it slave.. and go from there.
[04:41] <mobi-sheep__> DaveCo: I don't know if you can do that.  Unless you're talking about 'distcc'
[04:41] <mobi-sheep__> !info distcc
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> DaveCo: its not that hard.. just take the best of everything, and put it in one box.
[04:41] <fungos> rainofkayos: do NOT upgrade.. its really breaking everything
[04:41] <office> _danes_, first you must share internet connection in com[puter with net
[04:41] <chika_cute> hiiiiiiiiii
[04:41] <dayo> Mike_lifeguard: i think it's actually 'F' not 'f'
[04:41] <rainofkayos> fungos: yep im aware.. thats usually like a 'standard' no
[04:41] <IndyGunFreak> fungos: ?.. thats ridiculous.. i've had no problems at all.
[04:41] <rainofkayos> dont upgrade unless you need to
[04:42] <_danes_> office, yes, but If I connect it directly to the router I don't need to do that, right?
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: ive not had a single issue at all.. i know some of hte intel graphics chips are causing probs.
[04:42] <rainofkayos> IndyGunFreak: whats your version of python?
[04:42] <Mike_lifeguard> dayo: figured it out... though total swap usage (in system monitor) doesn't go down when killing high-swap-using processes like firefox
[04:42] <office> _danes_, if directly to router try sudo dhclient3 eth0-
[04:42] <office> _danes_, if directly to router try sudo dhclient3 eth0
[04:42] <rainofkayos> is it > 2.5 ?
[04:42] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: i have no clue, i don't use python
[04:42] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Can you please explain a bit more?  I installed dnsmasq and I tried "Edit Connection" to toggle on "Shared to other computers" on Auto Eth0.
[04:43] <rainofkayos> yes you do
[04:43] <_danes_> office, allright
[04:43] <rainofkayos> you may not know it but you do
[04:43] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, restart the computer
[04:43] <fungos> IndyGunFreak: in 3 different machines I had done upgrade something got broken! its a fact.  My father just upgrade and wireless got fscked.
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: well maybe i do, but i have no need to worry about what version it is.
[04:43] <nevada1920> hi
[04:43] <rainofkayos> hmm
[04:43] <donavan_> chuck_: thanks I figured it would be that tough but just missed it when i was looking
[04:43] <mobi-sheep__> poningru: Okay.  Be right back.
[04:43] <poningru> mobi-sheep__, or you can restart networkin, network-manager, etc. but just restart it
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> fungos: my wireless works better w/ jaunty, than it did w/ intrepid
[04:44] <RobAGD> humm 12gb over usb, this shoudl be fun
[04:44] <rainofkayos> in one case scapy doesn't work well with 2.6 and thats one thing i use often
[04:44] <bullgard4> What does "permalink" mean in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/105234?
[04:44] <RAMBO> Hey, I got my computer with Vista, and then dual boot installed Ubuntu. What happens if I install Windows 7 for a triple boot?
[04:44] <fungos> IndyGunFreak: good. sis191 just wont connect anymore.  kpackagekit is just buggy too.
[04:44] <rainofkayos> if they upgraded to 2.6 in the latest the no telling what else they changed.. its more ideal for me to test in a VM first
[04:44] <chuck_> donavan_, your welcome
[04:44] <office> bullgard4, real file to real file
[04:45] <office> not symlink
[04:45] <rainofkayos> 2.6.x Python that is
[04:45] <bullgard4> office: I do not understand your message. Can you elaborate.
[04:45] <RobAGD> RAMBO: if you install it as a seperate install vs an upgrade over your Vista install youget a 3rd boot option if its done right
[04:45] <office> i can't
[04:45] <RAMBO> RobAGD: What do I have to do to do it right?
[04:45] <office> bullgard4, i dont speak english that weel
[04:45] <office> ;p
[04:45] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, sounds like you have more problems than you started out with.
[04:45] <rainofkayos> =>
[04:45] <ubuntunoobneedin> fungos what brand is your wifi adapter
[04:45] <RobAGD> I use to quad boot 98se/ Win NT4 / RH 5.2 / Win2k
[04:46] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ I fear so :P
[04:46] <rainofkayos> ahh red hat a real 0S =)
[04:46] <RAMBO> robAGH: What happens if I just follow the install procedure on a blank partition?
[04:46] <bullgard4> What data is stored in /var/log/daemon.log?
[04:46] <[esde]> anyone know how to resize ubuntu netbook remix?
[04:46] <rainofkayos> daemon data?
[04:46] <_danes_> office, thank you very much
[04:46] <jake> how does this work
[04:46] <office> _dark__, for waht ?
[04:46] <office> *what
[04:46] <RobAGD> RAMBO: Ill be honest its been freaking eons since I messed with all that. I am in no way current on any version/variant of linux
[04:47] <fungos> ubuntunoobneedin: SiS 191 (rev 02)
[04:47] <RAMBO> RobAGD: Lulz. Well, this is more of a GRUB thing.
[04:47] <rainofkayos> looks like all processes that run as daemons log to that log as well
[04:47] <jake> how does this work
[04:48] <jake> how does this work
[04:48] <Chaorain>  I'm trrying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a 1.5 TB HDD. Installs just fine but won't boot.  No error message. Help?
[04:48] <RobAGD> jake:  that is kind of a vauge questions
[04:48] <Flannel> jake: You ask your question(s) (one at a time) and you get help with them.
[04:48] <poningru> Chaorain, where does it fail?
[04:48] <fungos> ubuntunoobneedin: it just say "wlan0: link is not ready" on dmesg and nothing more. already googled about it. just find posts related to 7.xx and 8.xx 2008 or earlier. :S
[04:48] <rainofkayos> vague
[04:49]  * AngryBananas waves!
[04:49] <poningru> as in what point?
[04:49] <RobAGD> thanks rain
[04:49] <rainofkayos> =)
[04:49] <vertagano> bluetooth-wizard never shows any devices; hcitool from the commandline does. Nautilus no longer allows me to connect to my bluetooth devices with obex://[address]  How can I use a GUI to browse and retrieve files?
[04:49] <Chaorain> poingru, at grub. I get nada
[04:49] <RAMBO> Can I resize my ubuntu partitions from Vista?
[04:49] <RobAGD> not use to the small arse keyboard on this tiny thing
[04:49] <rainofkayos> <---actually spells horribly
[04:49] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, I do not know if it will do any good but try installing with aptitude
[04:49] <rainofkayos> i was just so happy to see something i actually know how to spell =)
[04:49] <RobAGD> i just type slopy
[04:49] <RobAGD> sloppy
[04:49] <rainofkayos> lol
[04:50] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ so is apt-get broken?
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: i'mnot sure on that one.. i don't think so.. easiest thing to do is just download a partedmagic live cd
[04:50] <RAMBO> IndyGunFreak: Is it a big DL?
[04:50] <RobAGD> big reason I dont code,I would spend too much time tracking down typos
[04:50] <rainofkayos> RobAGD: LOL @ ME 2
[04:50] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: ... don't think so.. but i've not had to download it in a while.
[04:50] <RAMBO> indyGunFreak: K, thanks
[04:50] <rainofkayos> just some bash & perl other than that,, i just mess things up
[04:51] <[esde]> anyone know how to resize ubuntu netbook remix?
[04:51] <RAMBO> What's the deal with MD5 sums? Is it that likely for stuff to download wrong?
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: http://partedmagic.com/
[04:51] <jake> Linux is better then any windows computer lol
[04:51] <rainofkayos> resize the partition?
[04:51] <RAMBO> Oi, 71mb
[04:51] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, sounds like it there is a way to reinstall it let me see if i can find it
[04:51] <[esde]> i want to make the hard disk for Remix bigger
[04:51] <rainofkayos> maybe gparted
[04:51] <mobi-sheep> poningru: I'm back.
[04:51] <c0ntract0r> Ok thank  you im trying to read thru translated google forums for the answer as well
[04:51] <rainofkayos> the liveCD or a liveCD with gparted installed
[04:52] <office> [esde], use gparted
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: that works to, i just really like the partedmagic live cd.. its got some useful tools on it
[04:52] <RAMBO> Is there a lightweight partitioner?
[04:52] <Opshld1> ﻿Is anyone here familiar with b43 and patching for injection specifically in Hardy Heron?
[04:52] <compubomb> what raid contollers would you guy's use for ubuntu ?
[04:52] <compubomb> just curious.
[04:52] <maco> compubomb: hardware
[04:52] <rainofkayos> IndyGunFreak: cool.. i was just confused partmagick is the live CD with all the resize tools right?
[04:52] <maco> compubomb: just dont use fakeraid or software raid, and you should be ok
[04:52] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: the partition programs are about all the same
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: yeah..
[04:53] <pooq> b43?
[04:53] <maco> compubomb: fakeraid  / software raid ...recipe for pain in many cases
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: has some disk checking utilities, etc.. its pretty handy to have actually
[04:53] <rainofkayos> cool.. im really bad with names .. i.e. packages, etc
[04:53] <RAMBO> IndyGunFreak: argh. I need to find my GParted CD. I know I have one around somewhere. Can't I do it within Vista?
[04:53] <Opshld1> Broadcom 43x driver, i think
[04:53] <rainofkayos> IndyGunFreak: does it have the ntfs-3g?
[04:53] <maco> RAMBO: you can just use the ubuntu cd you used to install
[04:53] <rainofkayos> i forget
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> rainofkayos: yes
[04:53] <rainofkayos> nice
[04:53] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: i told you i don't know, i don't think you can...
[04:53] <pooq> oh, no
[04:53] <Opshld1> Hrmm, ok thanks
[04:53] <RAMBO> Does the Windows 7 disc have a built in partition editor?
[04:54] <RAMBO> Maco: Oh, I can just do that I guess.
[04:54] <rainofkayos> i think i actually burned it to CD somewhere.. you know i still have a copy of linux defender..
[04:54]  * rainofkayos has nothing to do with anything
[04:54] <RAMBO> And never mind, I found my Gparted live CD
[04:54] <pooq> i have a little experience w/ madwifi
[04:55] <rainofkayos> i battled wifi for weeks,, to find network manager was controllnig my wireless and all i had to do was right click the icon and select my network
[04:55] <lump> can dns be used just on an internal network for host names?
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> i just like partedmagic, because its got quite a few different disk tools on it.
[04:55] <rainofkayos> lump: yes
[04:55] <lump> thanks
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[04:55] <office> rainofkayos, wicd
[04:55] <jake> how secure is linux
[04:55] <rainofkayos> ubuntu is weird.. i dont think red hat uses network manager.. or if it does..
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> wicd is ok, but it was causing me to randomly lose my connection, so i ditched it.. nm-applet is fine
[04:55] <RAMBO> If I install Windows 7 onto a partition will it b0rk up my MBR?
[04:55] <office> jake, more than windows
[04:56] <Chaorain>  I'm trrying to install Ubuntu 9.04 on a 1.5 TB Seagate HDD. Installs just fine but won't boot.  No error message. Help?
[04:56] <rainofkayos> jake: linux is more configurable and modular than windows.. its easier to 'secure'
[04:56] <IndyGunFreak> RAMBO: i'd say theres a really good chance of it.. windows likes to do its own thing w/ the MBR.. but iv'e got no W7 experience
[04:56] <pooq> RAMBO, yes
[04:56] <RAMBO> Pooq: How do I prevent that? i like my vista and ubuntu to work.
[04:56] <rainofkayos> depends on the level of security your talking... but linux is usually able to be way more secure than windows
[04:57] <office> Here you can go crazy
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> Chaorain: are you tryingt o put it on an external drive?
[04:57] <rainofkayos> but SElinux is annoying
[04:57] <pooq> install vista first
[04:57] <jimuntu>  You have to install windows first then linux
[04:57] <maco> jake: assuming you run as a normal user and not as root at all times, dont share your password, etc...pretty secure
[04:57] <Chaorain> IngyGunFreak, No Internal SATA
[04:57] <pooq> that is the easiest way to do it
[04:57] <RAMBO> pooq: I got my lappy with vista, then installed ubuntu second.
[04:57] <jake> cool Im kind of new to the system
[04:57] <rainofkayos> me 2
[04:57] <maco> jake: no worries about drive by downloads and such
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> Chaorain: is it partitioning the drive properly?
[04:58] <pooq> oh, you want to add win7?
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> and installing ok?
[04:58] <jake> what about viruses
[04:58] <pooq> as a third os?
[04:58] <rainofkayos> not really
[04:58] <agoole> how do I download  and install a source from the repos ?
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> !virus | jake
[04:58] <rainofkayos> viruses are usually built for windows being that its so much more popular
[04:58] <office> jake, no viruses
[04:58] <pumpkinseed> hello. i'm having sound issues on jaunty 9.04 64bit with a sound blaster audigy 4. Sound was working fine for weeks and now its not. Sound tests work, but sound is coming out extremely low and gargly. No physical changes to speakers, sound card, etc. Tested working in Knoppix...
[04:58] <office> expliots only :)
[04:58] <maco> jake: lets go with "at least as secure as OSX because our default browser doesnt do stupid things like running executables that are found inside zips that happen to be downloaded through the browser"
[04:58] <Chaorain> IngyGunFreak, looks like it. From old install all the files are there
[04:58] <rainofkayos> usually people use AV apps on linux if they share disks to windows hosts
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> Chaorain: so what happens when you boot up, it just goes straight to windows?
[04:59] <maco> agoole: apt-get source <package>
[04:59] <maco> agoole: you can use "dpkg-buildpackage" to rebuild it after youve made whatever changes you want to make
[04:59] <Chaorain> IngyGunFreak, nope just sits there. never gets to Grub
[04:59] <rainofkayos> as long as you secure the super user account security ROX on linux
[04:59] <maco> jake: essentially, it'd need to be a targetted attack
[04:59] <office> Chaorain, you dont install grub !
[04:59] <agoole> maco: the package gspca seems only available as a source, will apt-get source command download it and install it ?
[04:59] <light__> ok guiez, I need flash, should I get swfdec, adobe or gnash, any diffrence????
[05:00] <maco> agoole: apt-get source only downloads the source package
[05:00] <rainofkayos> u need to unarchive it still
[05:00] <rainofkayos> i think
[05:00] <agoole> maco: ok thanks
[05:00] <Chaorain> office,  I'm just doing the standard install from ubuntu 9.04 live CD
[05:00] <jake> wow this system is awsome
[05:00] <maco> agoole: i dont know how that package works / why it only contains source code. im guessing module-assistant is needed just like the alsa-driver package
[05:00] <pumpkinseed> hello. i'm having sound issues on jaunty 9.04 64bit with a sound blaster audigy 4. Sound was working fine for weeks and now its not. Sound tests work, but sound is coming out extremely low and gargly. No physical changes to speakers, sound card, etc. Sound Tested working in Knoppix...
[05:01] <agoole> maco: ok, thats all I need to know, thanks :)
[05:01] <Chaorain> office,  whatever it puts on is what gets put on
[05:01] <office> Chaorain, then install grub manuall
[05:01] <maco> rainofkayos: no, itll extract on its own
[05:01] <rainofkayos> oh
[05:01] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: wget -O ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[05:01] <rainofkayos> cool beans
[05:01] <Chaorain> office,  can I do that from 8.10 on my old HDD?
[05:01] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: then tell me the url that it generates
[05:01] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: okay.. will do... thanks
[05:01] <office> yes
[05:02] <Chaorain> office,  how?
[05:02] <pumpkinseed> hmm
[05:02] <jake> so linux is really secure is what im getting lol
[05:02] <Mike_lifeguard> If I want to adjust the sizes of my partitions, I need to unmount them right? And if they are / and /home then that means I can't be running ubuntu at the same time, right?
[05:02] <chuck_> c0ntract0r, sudo aptitude reinstall dpkg
[05:02] <office> Chaorain, i must know what partitions you have
[05:02] <dtchen> jake: it's no more or less than any other system.
[05:02] <office> etc
[05:02] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: i ran the script and then it did its think... said "Done!" and then gave me "Your ALSA information is located at " blank
[05:02] <jake> ok
[05:03] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: rerun it with --no-upload, and you should see the contents in /tmp/alsa-info.txt. pastebin that file.
[05:03] <Mike_lifeguard> jake: you can make it insecure if you want, but it's generally viewed as quite secure
[05:03] <[esde]> gparted wont let me resize or anything
[05:03] <Chaorain> office, one EXT3 and 1 swap there
[05:03] <rainofkayos> what does it say?
[05:03] <office> [esde], becouse you must unomunt first
[05:03] <[esde]> unmount?
[05:04] <rainofkayos> the drive can't be in use.. or dirty
[05:04] <maco> dtchen: in a targetted attack, you mean? there are certainly fewer random wormholes on the interwebs trying to swallow up linux machines
[05:04] <rainofkayos> umount
[05:04] <[esde]> if i do wont i not be able to use the drive?
[05:04] <Mike_lifeguard> that's right
[05:04] <[esde]> how to
[05:04] <office> Chaorain, the names
[05:04] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: I've got the alsa-info.txt file
[05:04] <office> Chaorain, sda1,sdb1 ?
[05:04] <rainofkayos> umount or from GUI not sure
[05:04] <pumpkinseed> want me to upload it somewherE?
[05:04] <Mike_lifeguard> maco: there are wormholes in the internet? O.o
[05:04] <dtchen> maco: wormholes don't care what OS is at the dest
[05:04] <[esde]> can someone explain step by step?
[05:04] <Chaorain> office, sdc1
[05:04] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: sure, paste.ubuntu.com would be fine
[05:04] <rainofkayos> virus is kinda a catchall phrase
[05:04] <maco> dtchen: but the software they tend to try to install does
[05:05] <office> Chaorain, boot from old disk
[05:05] <rainofkayos> for a malious app
[05:05] <maco> rainofkayos: no, that's malware
[05:05] <maco> rainofkayos: virus is a *type* of malware
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> [esde]: explain what?
[05:05] <office> Chaorain, mount new disk
[05:05] <rainofkayos> so if i load a script that does rm -Rf /opt/ into your crontab
[05:05] <jake> so since viruses basicly dont work on linux attacks have to be manuel or over a network
[05:05] <Chaorain> office, already on it
[05:05] <rainofkayos> maco: ok greed
[05:05] <[esde]> how to resize my Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[05:05] <office> Chaorain, and show me sudo fdisk -l
[05:05] <rainofkayos> lol agreed
[05:05] <[esde]> its like 4 gigs.
[05:05] <Mike_lifeguard> is it safe to unmount my /home partition, resize it and re-mount it?
[05:05] <maco> jake: there have been ~30 linux viruses over the years. AFAIK, none affect current releases of any major distro
[05:05] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/168393/
[05:05] <rainofkayos> wait aren't you using like a sdram card for a drive [esde] ?
[05:06] <[esde]> no i installed it rainofkayos
[05:06] <rainofkayos> but on the netbook isn't the hardrive like sdram?
[05:06] <maco> jake: though there was one openoffice.org macro thing a year or so ago that was cross-platform
[05:06] <dtchen> jake: the same types work. it's just that _visibility_ isn't as high for certain OSes due to the relative costs of engaging in said exploits. it certainly does not diminish the fact that many exploits aren't even OS-specific.
[05:06] <Chaorain> office, 1 sec
[05:07] <^Ryan> *sigh* my firefox is busted, any idea how i can fix it, everytime i click download's in the option's bit it closes?
[05:07] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/s685ce4/
[05:07] <dsabecky> ^Ryan: Delete your preferences in your home folder for Firefox. It should fix the issue
[05:08] <maco> jake: i wont say ive never seen a linux box get rooted. i was at a hacker con when a friend had "you've been owned" pop up on his screen
[05:08] <^Ryan> Thank's
[05:08] <rainofkayos> maco: my point exactly
[05:08] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: try: amixer set -Dhw:0 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',0
[05:08] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: sorry, try: amixer set -Dhw:0 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',0 unmute
[05:08] <jake> but it would be hard to do
[05:08] <[esde]> can someone explain step by step?
[05:08] <rainofkayos> @ hosting companies roots are a big issue...
[05:08] <[esde]> how to resize my Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[05:08] <jake> right maco
[05:09] <rainofkayos> especially those with Pr0n
[05:09] <maco> jake: id still say that as long as youre in *normal* (ie: not in really hostile wifi areas like hacker cons) situations and not being stupid, you're pretty safe
[05:09] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know the name of the disk usage analyzer program off hand?
[05:09] <rainofkayos> i agree
[05:09] <rainofkayos> du
[05:09] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: that did it
[05:09] <OxDeadC0de> not du, the gnome one
[05:09] <[esde]> conky
[05:09] <rainofkayos> isn't there a GUI installed for that by default?
[05:09] <rainofkayos> not even conky...
[05:10] <dsabecky> OxDeadC0de: baobab
[05:10] <office> Chaoraint these drives are as now ?
[05:10] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: one question, after I typed that in it said "Playback channels: Mono"
[05:10] <rainofkayos> you could use conky too
[05:10] <OxDeadC0de> ahh thank you dsabecky
[05:10] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: how do I change that to stereo? I have 7.1 speakers
[05:10] <dsabecky> OxDeadC0de: No problem.
[05:10] <[esde]> can SOMEONE tell me how to make Ubuntu Netbook Remix bigger?
[05:10] <jake> cool im righting article on network security so thanx
[05:10] <rainofkayos> but i think there is one in ubuntu by default in the menu.. *searching menu*
[05:10] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: you don't
[05:10] <maco> jake: and dtchen is pointing out that browser exploits are still a concern for things like getting the passwords you type into the browser even if not for taking over your machine
[05:10] <Chaorain> office, I'm sorry? I don't understand
[05:10] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: it's a toggle to enable or disable spdif
[05:11] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: so I am stuck in mono?
[05:11] <chuck_> [esde],  if i might suggest download gpated live cd burn iso use it to boot then partition away.
[05:11] <OxDeadC0de> rainofkayos: I would, but I'm running in kde, the gnome usage analyzer is one of the better ones though imo
[05:11] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: for 50% of Audigy owners, it needs to be muted. yours needs to be unmuted.
[05:11] <rainofkayos> =(
[05:11] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: no, disregard the 'mono' tag
[05:11] <pumpkinseed> okay
[05:11] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: it's simply a binary toggle
[05:11] <chuck_> [esde],  gparted
[05:11] <bullgard4> What data is stored in /var/log/daemon.log?
[05:11] <Callum_> >_>
[05:11] <Chaorain> office, I just did the fdisk -l
[05:11] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: one last thing... why in the world did it just spontaneously do this?
[05:11] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: daemons log to that log file
[05:11] <Callum_> "Ubuntu Servers" is just freenode
[05:11] <Callum_> ?
[05:12] <Callum_> damnit...
[05:12] <office> Chaorain, One of these disk will remove ? or no
[05:12] <jake> so they can get system passwords or just passes for social networking sites
[05:12] <office> Chaorain, with partition are the /boot partition
[05:12] <dtchen> pumpkinseed: some application flipped it
[05:13] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: wow... I love linux
[05:13] <pumpkinseed> dtchen: thanks for your help though!!!
[05:13] <Callum> um...
[05:13] <Callum> hi
[05:13] <Tyrath> ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 9.04 I got the following error when launching mplayer: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libartsc.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:13] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-572-what-is-daemon-log
[05:13] <Tyrath> - would anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:13] <Chaorain> office, no /boot partition. just installed in root partition
[05:14] <office> eh
[05:14] <Callum> Ubuntu doesn't want to work when I have my video cards set up in SLI with the proprietary driver...but when I have only one card it works fine
[05:14] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Why is this separated into a separate log? Why is this separation from syslog necessary or advantageous?
[05:14] <Callum> It's all set up properly in the BIOS, and Ubuntu detects both cards under lspci fine
[05:14] <office> Chaorain, on with partition are the /boot folder with vmlinuz
[05:14] <Callum> X fails to start up with both cards though...
[05:14] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: for a lot of reasons i can see
[05:15] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: in most cases for a normal user maybe nothing beneficial
[05:15] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Please name the 3 most important ones.
[05:15] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: I don't know if it's in 9.04 but in 8.10 to fix that you'd do sudo apt-get install libartsc0
[05:15] <Lancet> hola?
[05:15] <rainofkayos> bullgard4: verbosity, redundancy, select cases
[05:16] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Your argument "in most cases for a normal user maybe nothing beneficial" is not relevant. A normal user will not look into syslog either.
[05:16] <rainofkayos> a daemon may log one line to syslog or messages where it logs more verbosely to the daemon log
[05:16] <rainofkayos> lol bullgard4 thats true
[05:16] <Chaorain> office, you mean sdd1?
[05:16]  * AngryBananas is afraid of daemons!
[05:16] <rainofkayos> lol i pronounce it like daymons.. people pronounce it like demons..
[05:16] <rainofkayos> it makes me aggrivated lol
[05:16] <office> Chaorain, i dont know ! you must know on what partition have /boot folder
[05:17] <OxDeadC0de> I pronounce it day-mons too rainofkayos ^^, is that the correct way though?
[05:17] <OxDeadC0de> never even thought about it until now
[05:17] <rainofkayos> i also pronounce queue like 'kay'..... people get upset with me
[05:17] <rainofkayos> hehe
[05:17] <office> Chaorain, sudo mkdir /1
[05:17] <office> Chaorain, sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /1
[05:17] <bullgard4> rainofkayos: Just throwing 3 catchwords is no useful argumentation. Can you elaborate what you mean by " verbosity, redundancy, select case" in this discussion? I know these 3 words in general English well.
[05:17] <Chaorain> office, 8.10 boots off of sdd1, trying to boot 9.04 off of sdc1
[05:18] <AngryBananas> haha. yeah, i was confused about that word for years... i pronounced it "kew-wee".
[05:18] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: No luck :/
[05:18] <OxDeadC0de> that one for me is "que"
[05:18] <office> Chaorain, ok
[05:18] <rainofkayos> verbosity because like i said its possible that a process would log more information to the daemon log that the messages log.. the messages is kind of catch all.. a lot of stuff logs to messages or syslog..
[05:18] <Chaorain> office, sdc1 is now mounted to /l
[05:18] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: aptitude search libarts is anything returned?
[05:18] <Tyrath> Did no-one else have difficulties with mplayer when they upgraded to the latest ubuntu?
[05:18] <Lancet> #irc://irc.mozilla.org
[05:18] <keith> Then you have the crazy English who call a line, a queue
[05:18] <WIGGMPk> Can anyone help me out with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/168397/ I keep getting this problem every time I try installing these packages.. I dont know how to get this resolved
[05:19] <rainofkayos> possibly that could help you by providing redundany where you can find info in more than one place like messages and daemon log
[05:19] <office> Chaorain, no
[05:19] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: all I get is: mplayerthumbs - thumbnail generator for video files on Konqueror
[05:19] <rainofkayos> and special case like maybe you install an application thats a daemon and maybe it only logs to daemon log
[05:19] <office> Chaorain, if boot are sdd1 mount sdd1
[05:19] <calc> keith: well a line is a queue :)
[05:19] <office> Chaorain, sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /1
[05:19] <Cryptic_Donkey>    
[05:19] <chuck_> Callum, try this http://rmarcus.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/ubuntu-with-two-graphics-cards/
[05:20] <calc> keith: as long as its not a line that you draw :)
[05:20] <Chaorain> office, I'm running off of sdd1
[05:20] <keith> calc: Oh, I know it is... but it is weird to call it one. :p
[05:20] <rainofkayos> all applications dont log to messages by default
[05:21] <office> Chaorain, with what disk is the system with want to boot ?!@!@?!??!
[05:21] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: "locate libartsc.so.0" it may be aRts sound system wasn't put into 9.04 for some odd reason?
[05:22] <office> Chaorain, sdd ?
[05:22] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: yeah, get this libartsc.so.0 turns up in locate but when I go to that directory the file isn't there
[05:22] <rainofkayos> and many applications can be configure to log diff verbosity levels diff places under diff conditions, also applications and processes have different logging behaviors by dafault.. possibly something you installed or are running is logging there. ,, possibly even log consolidation if your running a few apps on one host you may find it more convenient to log to check issues or status from
[05:22] <Cryptic_Donkey> I am sticking with 8.10 unitil they eol it
[05:22] <Callum> chuck_: I want them to be running under SLI mode...
[05:22] <OxDeadC0de> Tyrath: run "updatedb" to update the locate database
[05:23] <rainofkayos> Cryptic_Donkey: me too
[05:23] <Callum> I did nvidia-xconfig --sli=on and it still won't start X
[05:23] <Chaorain> office, I want to boot 9.04 off of sdc1 (new HDD), I can boot 8.10 sdd1 (old HDD)
[05:23] <OxDeadC0de> Anyone else here running 9.04 that can get aRts? perhaps it's in a different repo? hmm
[05:23] <Cryptic_Donkey> Callum: Are those Nvodoa or ati GPUs
[05:23] <Chaorain> office, sdc1 is what is giving me problems
[05:23] <calc> OxDeadC0de: i'm pretty sure arts was removed entirely, why mplayer still links to it i have no idea
[05:23] <Callum> NVIDIA
[05:24] <office> Chaorain, now you are from sdd yes ?
[05:24] <Callum> Two NVIDIA GeForce 8500GTs
[05:24] <jake> maco im back now
[05:24] <OxDeadC0de> calc ahh I see, aRts is old as dirt anyway isn't it?
[05:24] <calc> OxDeadC0de: yea and it was always considered crap, even back when i maintained KDE 5+ years ago
[05:24] <Chaorain> office, I am running 8.10 on sdd1 right now
[05:24] <calc> OxDeadC0de: perhaps your copy of mplayer is old?
[05:24] <OxDeadC0de> calc: lol, I agree, it was crap, I never used it myself
[05:24] <Cryptic_Donkey> I am whatchin Bully on HBO
[05:24] <rainofkayos> bout to get some seafood..
[05:24] <rainofkayos> brb
[05:25] <OxDeadC0de> calc: it's Tyrath's that's broken (I still run 8.10 for now)
[05:25] <mudittuli> i have directory with sub directories where all the file extensions have ;1' at the end, how do I mass rename them ?
[05:25] <calc> OxDeadC0de: ah ok
[05:25] <office> Chaorain, and you want in grub menu all this disks ?
[05:25] <calc> Tyrath: are you sure you have an up to date copy of mplayer?
[05:25] <Chaorain> office, just sdc1
[05:25] <calc> Tyrath: arts was dropped from jaunty on feb 26 long before the release
[05:25] <office> Chaorain, ok
[05:25] <Cryptic_Donkey> I am keep 8.10 untill 2011
[05:25] <office> Chaorain, sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /1
[05:26] <Chaorain> office, done
[05:26] <Tyrath> calc: I had whatever came on jaunty, and I reinstalled from source (the latest version) and got exactly the same error message :/
[05:26] <mudittuli> i have directory with sub directories where all the file extensions have ;1' at the end, how do I mass rename them ?
[05:26] <jaypur> ive tried all things to install ubuntu over vista, and i couldn't get it, can someone help me?
[05:26] <Flannel> Chaorain: 8.10 is only supported until April of 2010.  You'll want to use 8.04 to be supported until 2011
[05:26] <calc> Tyrath: the current mplayer build for jaunty was built after arts was already removed from the archive, so its a bit weird that you are seeing that
[05:26] <office> grub-install --root-directory=/1 --force-lba --recheck /dev/sdc
[05:26] <gpryatel> how is the battery life on an asus 1000 netbook compared to my acer aspire 3680? right now i get lest than 1 hr battery :(
[05:26] <Cryptic_Donkey> Tyrath: What was the above mentioned error message
[05:26] <Chaorain> flannel, I'm trying to upgrade to 9.04
[05:27] <office> Chaorain, sudo grub-install --root-directory=/1 --force-lba --recheck /dev/sdc
[05:27] <calc> Tyrath: and i don't see any bug reports about mplayer needing arts still
[05:27] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: this is what it gives me using locate: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libartsc0.list
[05:27] <OxDeadC0de> calc: Tyrath: I get the feeling he still has the old mplayer installed, and when he installs the new one it puts it in a different place, try "locate mplayer" and "which mplayer" ?
[05:27] <mudittuli>  anyone ?
[05:27] <calc> Tyrath: actually not only that but mplayer 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu18 specifically states it dropped depends on arts
[05:27] <Tyrath> OxDeadC0de: nope, I installed the latest from source
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: you installed mplayer from source?
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: bizarre, what should I do?
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: yes
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: that is your problem then
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: you aren't using the ubuntu version
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: not really, because when I upgraded to jaunty I had the same problem
[05:28] <chuck_> Callum, do not know how to do sli but i have 2 radeon cards running so it is possible in ubuntu
[05:28] <calc> Tyrath: you need to figure out how to recompile it without arts support
[05:28] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/re96d9b/
[05:28] <Tyrath> calc: actually
[05:28] <Callum> ok
[05:28] <poet> my Macbook (late 2008) is having a problem with the Jaunty amd64 live cd.  It boots into it just fine, but when I attempt to start ubuntu or install it, an error message pops up and the screen gets stuck at black.  Any udeas?
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: come to think of it I reinstalled from source before upgrading to jaunty
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: I had to do that to be able to play m2ts files on mplayer
[05:29] <Cryptic_Donkey> !pastebin }|
[05:29] <calc> Tyrath: so recompile
[05:29] <Chaorain> office, I mounted to l(L) not 1(#)
[05:29] <Cryptic_Donkey> !pastebin | poet
[05:29] <calc> Tyrath: and make sure arts support is disabled and that should fix it
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: from source? I did after installing jaunty again
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: ah k
[05:29] <Tyrath> calc: I'll try, thanks
[05:29] <calc> ok
[05:30] <poet> Cryptic_Donkey: wasn't aware it was policy to pastebin longish questions
[05:30] <PeoplesAdvocate> hello everyone, im having a prob turning on my wireless card on my acer aspire one. I installed Ubuntu 9.04 remix. the switch on the bottom right wont turn on the card???
[05:30] <office> Chaorain, ls -l /1/boot
[05:31] <Tyrath> calc: actually calc, do I have to uninstall before I reinstall?
[05:31] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c25780a/
[05:32] <Tyrath> calc: if I do, how do I get rid of mplayer installed from source?
[05:32] <Chaorain> office, thanks for putting up with me being such a newb
[05:32] <office> Chaorain, sudo cat /1/boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:32] <Cryptic_Donkey> poet: paste bin is for debuuging purposes ie debugging scripts and problems related to certian aspects of the operating system ie problems with  xorg and arts etc
[05:33] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c72dce1/
[05:33] <Cryptic_Donkey> !man | poet
[05:34] <poet> Cryptic_Donkey: do you just feel like triggering the bot today?
[05:34] <office> Chaorain, l no 1
[05:34] <bullgard4> How to swtch off Samba (nmbd and smbd) conveniently temporarily? (I would like to test what traffic remains between two Ubuntu computers in a LAN.)
[05:34] <office> Chaorain, L
[05:34] <ziroday> bullgard4: sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop
[05:34] <damagedprince> how do i cinnect to vbox channel
[05:34] <office> Chaorain, /L
[05:34] <calc> Tyrath: you can't easily get rid of things installed from source, which is one of the big reasons to never do that, you will just have to install over the top again and hope it works
[05:35] <office> Chaorain, cat /l/boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:35] <calc> Tyrath: generally using packages is much a better idea :)
[05:35] <ziroday> bullgard4: or sudo service samba stop
[05:35] <calc> Tyrath: or set it up to install into a subdir under /opt
[05:35] <office> Chaorain, copy and paste this line
[05:35] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c9600e4/
[05:35] <Chaorain> office, http://www.paste-it.net/public/c9600e4/
[05:35] <poet> is there any way to get verbose or debug output from the LiveCD?
[05:35] <Tyrath> calc: yeah, I know, but generally they take off so many features...
[05:35] <damagedprince> i need help with vbox
[05:35] <Tyrath> calc: I also use checkinstall - don't know how that changes things...
[05:35] <ziroday> poet: what area?
[05:35] <bullgard4> ziroday: How long will your command be effective? Will it perpetuate even after a restart of the computer?
[05:35]  * calc just uses totem to play m2ts files
[05:36] <calc> Tyrath: doesn't checkinstall produce a package you install?
[05:36] <Tyrath> calc: maybe cause it installs in a package form it's better? i don't know
[05:36] <office> Chaorain, it's ok
[05:36] <ziroday> bullgard4: no, it will remain until you either turn samba back on or restart your computer
[05:36] <Tyrath> calc: yep
[05:36] <poet> ziroday: I'm trying to narrow down reasons why the LiveCD doesn't work correctly on my Macbook
[05:36] <Chaorain> office, so try it?
[05:36] <ziroday> poet: bootup?
[05:36] <calc> Tyrath: yea then you can just remove the package that is much better than just doing a regular install
[05:36] <office> Chaorain, then set in bios this disk to first to boot
[05:36] <bullgard4> ziroday: Thank you very much for your help.
[05:36] <poet> ziroday: bootup is fine, but starting the install or LiveCD fails
[05:36] <calc> Tyrath: regular make install just copies directly into your filesystem which then it is hard to remove
[05:36] <Tyrath> calc: oh? how do I do that?
[05:37] <ziroday> poet: wait, so it boots into the livecd environment just fine but you can't start the installer?
[05:37] <calc> Tyrath: either use a package manager or dpkg --purge (package name)
[05:37] <Chaorain> office, K. If I'm not back in 15 min it went ok
[05:37] <office> Chaorain, or unplug another disk.. save only the new
[05:37] <Tyrath> calc: I just typed make uninstall and make clean (to get rid of the installation files for the reconfigure
[05:37] <m_> i have problem to do visual effect extra
[05:37] <freazer> Hi! I split my MDADM software raid (mirror level 1) and I'm trying to view the volumes separately in the same machine. Unfortunately I also wrapped them inside an LVM2 container, and I'm getting there error: " Found duplicate PV ..." - can anybody help me mount them despite this?
[05:38] <m_> please help me
[05:38] <Tyrath> calc: so basically checkinstall allows me to make .deb files then?
[05:38] <poet> zirodoay: the installer AND LiveCD will start, but an error message on the console pops up (disappears too quickly to read) and then the screen just hangs black
[05:38] <WIGGMPk> Can anyone take a look at this problem for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/168397/ I am getting dependency problems while installing these packages out of Add/Remove and do not know how to fix them.
[05:38] <office> freazer, unactiv this volume on lvm2
[05:38] <poet> ziroday: so no, I can't start the LiveCD environment
[05:39] <tesseracter> hi, every time i go to open a file (the file dialog box?) the application freezes for about 30-60 seconds before continuing an normal. this is extremely frustrating. help?
[05:39] <office> freazer, vgchange -a n labelofthisvolume
[05:39] <ziroday> poet: right, press ALT+F1 to see the debug messages
[05:39] <FloridaGuy> man ubuntu has approved in preformence on 9.04...fast
[05:41] <Lancet> o.o
[05:41] <civpro> i got a Geforce 8300 and im not sure if its the monitor or the graphics card that is coming up "mode is not supported, is there a place that i can force the monitor to display a certain ratio?
[05:42] <civpro> im using a samsung 52in lcd tv
[05:42] <civpro> any advice would be appreciated
[05:42] <tesseracter> civpro, what drivers are you using?
[05:43] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: try nvidia-xconfig
[05:43] <civpro> tess, i have no idea, when i boot up im just getting "mode is not supported" on the screen
[05:43] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: might have to install it
[05:43] <civpro> billy ok
[05:43] <newuser> what size for linux swap file.  CPU= Intel quad core q6600 with 2 gb ram.  Should swap be 2gb or greater?
[05:43] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: manually edit your xorg.conf
[05:44] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: if you can't even boot, its trying to use a resolution that your monitor doesn't support
[05:44] <civpro> where is xorg.conf located at, the /etc directory?
[05:44] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:44] <office> billybigrigger_, probably he dont know how edit xorg.conf
[05:44] <tesseracter> civpro, xorg.conf is the thing that determines the resolution of the monitor, but that is a messy file to edit. nvidia has a autoconfig program called nvidia-xconfig that usually works mell
[05:44] <civpro> billy, thanks
[05:44] <bullgard4> newuser: swap=2GB is enough.
[05:44] <calc> Tyrath: it sounds like you said that was what it did
[05:44] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: np
[05:44] <civpro> also i tried sudo gedit but its not working either
[05:44] <freazer> office: and anyone else that will help.. here's my issue: http://pastebin.com/d31ed638d no matter what I do it only sees the one vg and not the other (I did physically unplug both drives, and one at a time renamed their vg and lv's to different things)
[05:44] <calc> Tyrath: i've never used checkinstall any time i've need a package i just make my own
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:45] <civpro> i got the server edition installed, what editor by default is installed?
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: nano
[05:45] <civpro> thanks
[05:45] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, editing xorg.conf might leave him at a command prompt, and while i could manage, it might leave some people stuck.
[05:45] <gb__> hi all
[05:45] <repnop> anyone else seeing ntfs-3g write at only 325KB/s when you have over 200GB free?
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: true but he doesnt have a working xorg to begin with
[05:45] <ziroday> civpro: if I were you I would consider installing the closed nvidia drivers, and then using ssh -X to access nvidia-settings and access the tv through that
[05:45] <gb__> did anyone have issues installing eclipse-pdt on ubuntu?
[05:45] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: hold up
[05:46] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, nvidia-xconfig is a better starting point
[05:46] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: my bad, bad habit, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:46] <gb__> repnop:  did you fsck the partition?
[05:46] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <repnop> gb__: was a clean shutdown etc
[05:46] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: he can't boot, he doesn't have X
[05:46] <gb__> still do it
[05:46] <repnop> ntfs-3g had this issue many versions ago
[05:46] <tesseracter> or, 180.5X drivers...
[05:46] <repnop> it's writing to the partition heh
[05:46] <repnop> in the middle of a copy
[05:46] <gb__> repnop:  works ok here at good speed
[05:47] <tesseracter> ftp ftp.nvidia.com
[05:47] <repnop> it's a brand new ntfs partition :P
[05:47] <Rob235> is there a program to mount bin/cue files?
[05:47] <billybigrigger_> when did .5X come out? i only have .44
[05:47] <repnop> i've had enough trouble with ntfs-3g i'll be glad to get away from desktop linux for awhile :)
[05:47] <gb__> repnop:  lol  nope , go back to winblows?
[05:47] <repnop> yep win 7 :P
[05:47] <mib_ye5sb7tq> Rob235  loop
[05:47] <ziroday> civpro: as you can there are many ways to go around this :). What are you aiming to do with this machine?
[05:47] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, #nvidia and the ftp site have latest release, and pre-release, and beta
[05:48] <gb__> repnop: good luck, ur gonna need it
[05:48] <t3pleni9> Is there any folder browser which returns the exit code on return if run from the terminal?
[05:48] <poet> does anyone know if the installer error messages are documented anywhere?
[05:48] <civpro> ziro, running virtual machines off of it
[05:48] <ziroday> tesseracter: please don't recommend people to install the drivers from nvidia.com
[05:48] <civpro> would like to have a gui though
[05:48] <office> freazer, vgremove keep1
[05:48] <Rob235> thanks
[05:48] <bullgard4> What does "permalink" mean in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/105234?
[05:48] <tesseracter> ziroday, you would rather have them manually edit a xorg file?
[05:48] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: o
[05:48] <ziroday> civpro: right, well you will need to install X, press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a command line, does it appear?
[05:48] <repnop> ziroday:  well 9.04 was a version or two behind last time i checked
[05:48] <office> freazer, its empty group without volumers
[05:49] <civpro> ziro, ill have to go downstairs and try
[05:49] <civpro> 1 sec
[05:49] <ziroday> tesseracter: no, I would rather they installed the closed source drivers from the repo's
[05:49] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: don't see the point of using a beta driver when the problem is the current xorg config
[05:49] <ziroday> civpro: sure :), you can also install ssh so you can access your computer from upstairs
[05:49] <ziroday> repnop: that is correct
[05:49] <repnop> i did manual install of .51 on my 9.04 no issues so far.
[05:49] <ziroday> !wfm | repnop
[05:49] <repnop> didn't fix the issue i had with windows not rendering when a bunch are opened right away though
[05:49] <civpro> ziro, ok i have vnc viewer running on here, whats the command to get it up and running
[05:49] <damentz> what is ubuntu's policy on new proprietary drivers?
[05:50] <damentz> do they backport new amd and nvidia drivers?
[05:50] <civpro> just sudo apt-get install vnc-server  ?
[05:50] <ziroday> damentz: they will sometimes, but not often
[05:50] <damentz> 180.53 fixes a lot of issues in 180.44 for instance
[05:50] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, 1, its not a beta, 2, the nvidia installer creates a new xorg.conf based on your video card.
[05:50] <ziroday> civpro: mmm, ssh would be better. Do sudo apt-get install ssh and nvidia-glx-180
[05:50] <damentz> and 185 fixes a lot of desktop compositing performance issues
[05:50] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz envy is likely the best choise to use later drivers
[05:50] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: ahh, i use restricted drivers, not nvidia.com's
[05:50] <billybigrigger_> tesseracter::: thats why i have .44
[05:50] <damentz> right, i would just install it myself manually
[05:50] <civpro> i installed 180 and it says it wasnt in use
[05:50] <damentz> but when a new kernel comes in... it's a pain to reinstall
[05:50] <damentz> so i would like it to be in the repo
[05:51] <damentz> especially if it's marked as a stable driver by nvidia
[05:51] <ziroday> civpro: ah, can you gimme 1 sec please :)
[05:51] <billybigrigger_> civpro::: did you restart?
[05:51] <civpro> sure
[05:51] <civpro> and thanks
[05:51] <civpro> billy, yes
[05:51] <freazer> office: that seems scary :-) can I get it back?
[05:51] <chaorain> office, hey thanks it works
[05:52] <office> freazer, no
[05:52] <tesseracter> billybigrigger_, correct. which is easier when upgrading kernels, but harder to figure out if drivers are causing any problems. on a related note, anything above 180.29 has been great for me, below that, and i had problems on my gtx280
[05:52] <civpro> this might help
[05:52] <office> freazer, but keep1 its empty group
[05:52] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, i just wish they would backport drivers more often
[05:52] <ziroday> civpro: okay, have you done mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup already?
[05:52] <office> freazer, its nothing
[05:52] <civpro> Asus M3N78 PRO Motherboard
[05:52] <damentz> more often than not, new versions of the catalyst or nvidia drivers fix issues than break functionality
[05:52] <civpro> ziro, i havent went downstairs yet
[05:52] <civpro> that mb has the video card integrated on it
[05:53] <office> freazer, stop !
[05:53] <tesseracter> damentz, 180.53 is pre-release, to not *quite* stable, just needs more testing before it can be marked as such.
[05:53] <ziroday> civpro: okay, you need to do sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup and then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:53] <ziroday> civpro: I have a similar mobo
[05:53] <billybigrigger_> office::: a little slow eh? hehe
[05:53] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz most new drivers get applied the the kernel main branch, restricted drivers are outside the development model.
[05:53] <office> billybigrigger_, ;)
[05:53] <tesseracter> ziroday, not that making an extra backup is bad, but nvidia-xconfig makes a backup too :-)
[05:54] <civpro> dont i have to install nvidia-xconfig first?
[05:54] <ziroday> civpro: ah yes, that would help :)
[05:54] <billybigrigger_> heh
[05:54] <ziroday> tesseracter: forgot about that, thanks :)
[05:54] <tesseracter> civpro, if you have nvidia drivers, you have nvidia-xconfig
[05:54] <chaorain> My Desktop fan is going continuous. is there a way to controll it?
[05:54] <office> chaorain, boot works ?
[05:54] <ziroday> tesseracter: no, they are installed seperately
[05:54] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ I fixed it.   I removed the ens1371, reenabled the ac-97 onboard via8235, and added the line "options snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=3" to the end of the alsa-base.conf file  Thank you for your help.
[05:54] <chaorain> office, Yep I'm in 9.04 right now
[05:54] <civpro> ok so sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 nvidia-xconfig
[05:54] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: bios?
[05:54] <ziroday> civpro: and ssh
[05:54] <civpro> ok
[05:55] <tesseracter> civpro, type nvidia- then hit tab a couple times, it will show apps starting with that string.
[05:55] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, but they're still as important
[05:55] <civpro> does it autostart or do i have to start them up?
[05:55] <civpro> once installed
[05:55] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: intel or amd?
[05:55] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz well you should be whining to nvidia not ubuntu devs.
[05:55] <ziroday> civpro: once installed do sudo nvidia-xconfig and then restart
[05:55] <tesseracter> ziroday, i'll shut up now, since i dont work with repo vid drivers :-)
[05:55] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, It is Triple booting right now. Windows/8.10 fan is ok but 9.04 fan is always on. Intel.
[05:56] <civpro> ziro, ok
[05:56] <ziroday> tesseracter: :)
[05:56] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: check /proc/acpi/fan
[05:56] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: ???
[05:56] <civpro> brb and thanks everyone
[05:56] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, that doesn't make sense, the ubuntu devs choose when to update their packages or not
[05:56] <damentz> nvidia just fixes their drivers asthey go
[05:56] <Entelin> ive got a few questions,  I use windowmaker, what daemon do I need to have running in order to have the gnome background appear and gtk themes as configured in the control center to appear?
[05:56] <tesseracter> hi, every time i go to open a file (the file dialog box?) the application freezes for about 30-60 seconds before continuing an normal. this is extremely frustrating. help?
[05:56] <ziroday> damentz: mib_ye5sb7tq:P this conversation is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <mib_ye5sb7tq> damentz because the ubuntu devs dont update the drivers, thats upstram.
[05:56] <Entelin> i have it working at home but im on my laptop elsewhere and I just cant remember what one it is
[05:56] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, no files there
[05:57] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, triple boot is temporary
[05:57] <ziroday> Entelin: gnome-settings-daemon?
[05:57] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: mine either...was hoping you had something in there hehe :P i don't know what to tell you
[05:57] <Entelin> i thought thats what it was,  and I did need that but apparently that doesnt deal with the background
[05:58] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: i have my cpu overclocked so i run all my fans all the time, cpu fan full out all the time, and the 120mm and 140mm case fans at low to med all the time, but the case fans have a 3 speed switch so...ya i dunno what to tell you :P
[05:58] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, thanks anyway
[05:58] <damentz> mib_ye5sb7tq, right, so they package newer/better versions so users don't have to use envy
[05:59] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: i see you fixed your boot problem?
[05:59] <ziroday> !latest > damentz
[05:59] <bullgard4> What does "permalink" mean in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/105234?
[05:59] <office> billybigrigger_, i fixed hes problem ;p
[05:59] <DShepherd> whats the ubuntu room for the kernel team?
[05:59] <ziroday> damentz: ubuntu is not rolling release
[05:59] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, yep. now in 9.04
[05:59] <ziroday> bullgard4: it is a link that you can share with people that will always stay the same
[05:59] <fib0nacci> has anyone had any luck opening .xfdl documents or editing us military forms?
[05:59] <ziroday> DShepherd: #ubuntu-kernel
[05:59] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: what was the problem?
[05:59] <DShepherd> ziroday, thanks
[05:59] <bullgard4> ziroday: Thank you very much for explaining.
[06:00] <chaorain> billybigrigger_, grub did not install properly
[06:00] <billybigrigger_> chaorain::: fun shhtuff
[06:00] <damentz> ziroday, hmm ,ok
[06:00] <FrankQC> My laptop is dualbooted and I was wondering if:  If I accidentally download a Windows virus on Linux, can it be transfered to the Windows partition where it's going to affect Windows once I boot into it?
[06:00] <office> chaorain, maybe you have cpu freq changer module load
[06:01] <ziroday> damentz: and you need to understand that graphics drivers are _very_ volatile, particularly closed source ones. Ubuntu policy is not to update them unless absolutely necessary.
[06:01] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: if you copy the virus from the linux fs to the windows fs then yes, you can infect your windows partition
[06:01] <office> then fan goes crazy
[06:01] <ziroday> FrankQC: no, as the virus cannot run under ubuntu
[06:01] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: but windows virus' won't affect linux
[06:01] <billybigrigger_> ziroday::: don't say that
[06:01] <FrankQC> billybigrigger and ziroday: Yeah I know they won't affect Linux, but I'm scared that all the potential Windows-downloaded viruses on my Ubuntu machine get "transfered" unintentionally to my Windows partition
[06:01] <damentz> ziroday, hmm
[06:02] <billybigrigger_> ziroday::: no is not the correct answer, a downloaded virus in linux can infect a windows pc if the file/files are copied to the windows partition
[06:02] <damentz> ziroday, so amd's drivers must update occasionally then?
[06:02] <damentz> nvidia's seem to be ok
[06:02] <ziroday> FrankQC: well as long as your windows partition cannot access the linux one, and you don't copy the files onto your windows partition you are fine
[06:02] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: unless you copy them yourself, they can't transfer themeselves
[06:02] <Entelin> billybigrigger_, they wont effect windows so long as you dont run them yourself,  they cant do anything to you if you dont touch them
[06:03] <ziroday> damentz: sorry, I don't follow? They only update the drivers if a SRU is granted, reading the SRU guidelines will explain the conditions for the update
[06:03] <billybigrigger_> Entelin::: thats what i said
[06:03] <FrankQC> ziroday: My Windows can access my Linux one.
[06:03] <ziroday> FrankQC: if you want to scan for windows viruses you can use ClamAV
[06:03] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: your fine
[06:03] <Entelin> i didnt read the whole conversation lol
[06:03] <Tyrath> calc: ok, mplayer's working fine now :D. only I can't play m2ts files :/
[06:03] <FrankQC> So I'm fine even if my Windows partition can access (read/write) in the Linux's ext3?
[06:03] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: like everyone else said, don't touch them, it doesn't matter if windows can see linux and vise versa as long as you don't copy the virus to the windows partition
[06:04] <Tyrath> calc: but yeah, that's not too much of a bid deal cause I can use vlc
[06:04] <FrankQC> Alright
[06:04] <FrankQC> Wow IRC is really useful!
[06:04] <FrankQC> Thanks a bunch guys!
[06:04]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por el momento
[06:04] <ziroday> !away > D3f0
[06:04] <billybigrigger_> FrankQC::: np
[06:04] <Tyrath> calc: also the latest openoffice I downloaded from debs and it seemed to install but didn't show up anywhere
[06:04] <damentz> ziroday, ok well sorry, i run exclusively rolling release distributions on my laptop or frozen distributions with frequent backports
[06:04] <ohzie> Alright so I added this drive to fstab as rw, and it still mounts as ro.
[06:04] <office> FrankQC, http://www.fs-driver.org/download/Ext2IFS_1_11a.exe
[06:04] <damentz> ziroday, i wasn't aware that ubuntu had a very strict backport policy
[06:04] <fib0nacci> has anyone had any luck opening .xfdl documents or editing us military forms?
[06:05] <FrankQC> office: Yea that's what I'm using
[06:05] <Tyrath> calc: so, yeah, basically do launch it I have to find a .doc or .xls file and open it then open a new file which is very annoying :/
[06:05] <ziroday> damentz: well ubuntu does do backports, but no backports aren't updated that often (and the SRU does not apply to backports). If you really must have the latest driver the Xorg team have several ppa's
[06:05] <office> FrankQC, ntfs-3g on linux to acces ntfs part read/write
[06:05] <ziroday> ohzie: are the permissions of the mountpoint rw?
[06:06] <ohzie> /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usbfs vfat rw,umask=0000,uid=500 0 0 <--That's my fstab line. I think I did it right
[06:06] <FrankQC> office: I didn't install ntfs-3g on Linux
[06:06] <FrankQC> office: I only installed it on Windows to access partition
[06:07] <ziroday> ohzie: remove the uid and umask lines, and make sure /mnt/usbfs is rw by everyone
[06:07] <office> FrankQC, ntfs-3g its in standard install of ubuntu
[06:07] <simone> ciao
[06:07] <FrankQC> office: What if I didn't enable it, haha
[06:08] <Cryptic_Donkey> I just finished the introduction to man
[06:08] <FrankQC> office: And even if it was enabled, the Windows virus wouldn't be able to execute in Linux so I don't know how it would be able to transfer from partition to partition
[06:09] <office> FrankQC, how they transfer if not executed
[06:09] <FrankQC> office: how then
[06:09] <ohzie> ziroday, It won't let me change the permissions.
[06:09] <wcdl> hey all i'd like to know if there is a way to connect wireless from a network and wired from another one
[06:09] <FrankQC> office: I woudln't be transfering them manually haha
[06:10] <office> ohzie, what do you want do ?
[06:10] <office> mount /dev/sdd1 to /mnt/usbfs with rw for everyone ?
[06:10] <ohzie> office, I want to be able to automount my usb hard drive and give it read/write access to the entire system.
[06:10] <ohzie> Yes
[06:10] <ziroday> ohzie: sudo chmod a+rw /mnt/usbfs
[06:11] <Tyrath> Would anyone know how I can get power manager to beep at me when the comp is low on power?
[06:11] <ohzie> ziroday, Not even an error message, just didn't work.
[06:11] <wcdl>  hey all i'd like to know if there is a way to connect wireless from a network and wired from another one
[06:11] <Tyrath> actually, would anyone know how I can stop the computer suspending when I plug in power
[06:11] <ziroday> ohzie: bleh, not sure soory.
[06:12] <office> ohzie,
[06:12] <office> sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usbfs -o rw,user
[06:13] <civpro> ok back
[06:13] <civpro> nvidia-xconfig didnt find anything
[06:13] <civpro> let me use putty to ssh in, 1 sec
[06:14] <ohzie> office, Nope, still read only.
[06:14] <ohzie> I'm really baffled
[06:14] <ohzie> I know that these are the correct way of doing things, but the system will not behave as it's supposed to.
[06:14] <ziroday> civpro: didn't find anything?
[06:14] <office> ohzie, what filesystem are in this partition
[06:14] <office> ntfs ?
[06:14] <ohzie> fat32
[06:15] <ohzie> I mean, I've had this drive for like a month and this is the first time I've ever had this problem
[06:15] <office> ohzie, are you umount first ?
[06:15] <ohzie> office, yes
[06:15] <Cryptic_Donkey> !Ntfs | office
[06:15] <office> then
[06:15] <office> ntfs
[06:15] <office> or fat32
[06:15] <ohzie> office, fat32
[06:15] <Cryptic_Donkey> !Ntfs-3g | office
[06:16] <civpro> ok im in
[06:16] <AngryBananas> d00boont00
[06:16] <ziroday> civpro: and does nvidia-xconfig give any errors?
[06:16] <Cryptic_Donkey> mhansen: are you in washington state?
[06:16] <civpro> zero, sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig   found no repo
[06:16] <mhansen> Cryptic_Donkey: Yes.
[06:16] <civpro> 1 sec im ssh'ed in now
[06:17] <civpro> let me see exact error
[06:17] <jamie> join #geodjango
[06:17] <Guest98767> #geodjango
[06:17] <civpro> couldnt find package nvidia-xconfig
[06:17] <office> ohzie, mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt/usbfs -o remount,rw,user -t vfat
[06:17] <ziroday> civpro: hmm, do you have universe enabled?
[06:17] <office> sudo or root
[06:18] <civpro> ziro how do i check?
[06:18] <Cryptic_Donkey> well excuse me jamie and Guest98767
[06:18] <ziroday> civpro: install pastebinit, and then do pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list Give us the returning url
[06:18] <civpro> ok
[06:19] <ohzie> office, mount: /mnt/usbfs/ not mounted already, or bad option
[06:19] <ohzie> office, I mounted it and then retried that and it worked, checking rw.
[06:20] <ohzie> office, still read only.
[06:20] <civpro> http://pastebin.com/f27af076d
[06:20] <office> ohzie,
[06:20] <office> maybe you have readonly permissions on this folder
[06:20] <office> /mnt/usbfs
[06:20] <ziroday> civpro: hmm, you have universe enabled. Can you do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig please
[06:20] <office> you chown or chmod this folder ?
[06:21] <civpro> sure
[06:21] <ohzie> office, I tried to chmod them and it wouldn't let me.
[06:21] <FrankQC> What's the best IRC client?
[06:21] <ohzie> office, chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/usbfs/': Read-only file system
[06:21] <civpro> same
[06:21] <FrankQC> What are you guys using
[06:21] <ohzie> FrankQC, mirc or irssi
[06:21] <ziroday> civpro: oops, looks like I have made a mistake. nvidia-xconfig no longer appears in jaunty
[06:21] <ohzie> FrankQC, xchat suffices.
[06:21] <office> ohzie, no no no no
[06:22] <office> ohzie, umount this
[06:22] <ziroday> civpro: can you try run sudo nvidia-xconfig anyway please
[06:22] <civpro> ok
[06:22] <office> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1
[06:22] <office> mkdir /mnt/sdd1
[06:22] <ohzie> office, now the device is busy. How can it be busy if it won't let me do anything?
[06:22] <office> leave this folder
[06:22] <office> cd /
[06:22] <ohzie> office, I don't want to format it, it has stuff on it!
[06:22] <ohzie> Oh right duh. -_-
[06:23] <office> then copy stuff to hd
[06:23] <ziroday> civpro: did that work?
[06:23] <civpro> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[06:23] <civpro> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[06:23] <civpro>                   At least one Device section is required.
[06:23] <civpro> sh: pkg-config: not found
[06:23] <civpro> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[06:23] <FloodBot3> civpro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <civpro> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:24] <office> ohzie, sudo mkdir /1
[06:24] <civpro> there is no data in /etc/x11/xorg.conf doesnt have anything in it
[06:24] <office> ohzie, sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /1
[06:24] <ozzloy> what's that song that's like "i'm melting i'm melting i'm melting meltdoowwn" in a robotic voice?
[06:24] <civpro> http://pastebin.com/m2e4801b6
[06:24] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: Do you have some form of removable media to back you file up on (i.e. an external hard drive or DVDS , CDs etc
[06:25] <office> ohzie, if still is ro
[06:25] <ohzie> office, Even with the mountpoint being a+rw it still is mounting as read only. -_-
[06:25] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, no, this is my removable hard drive.
[06:25] <ziroday> civpro: bah. okay, do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add in http://pastebin.com/m2de371c7
[06:25] <civpro> ok
[06:25] <ohzie> errr external
[06:25] <ziroday> civpro: press ctrl+x to save
[06:25] <office> ohzie, then you must create partiotion new
[06:25] <alva> i get this error" "There was an error loading key bindings configuration?  whats it mean?
[06:25] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: How muck data are we talking about ?
[06:25] <ozzloy> what's that song that's like "i'm melting i'm melting i'm melting meltdoowwn" in a robotic voice?
[06:25] <ozzloy> woops
[06:26] <civpro> wait, now it has info in it
[06:26] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, about 40 gigs. I'm just baffled as to why it won't mount properly.
[06:26] <alva> how can I play youtube in firefox? says no flash
[06:26] <civpro> want the pastebin?
[06:26] <alva> !flash
[06:26] <ziroday> civpro: yes please
[06:26] <dmbkiwi> Hi, is there any way to access remote file systems in a gnome file dialog - like kio-slaves in kde?
[06:26] <alva>  i get this error" "There was an error loading key bindings configuration?  whats it mean?
[06:26] <ziroday> dmbkiwi: no, they have to be mounted first
[06:26] <office> alva only flash
[06:27] <alva> office what
[06:27] <ohzie> the folder is RW to everyone, the options I'm passing with mount are rw to everyone, but it still comes out as read only.
[06:27] <alva> ?
[06:27] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: Are running a duelboot machine?
[06:27] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, Heavens no.
[06:27] <dmbkiwi> ziroday: any way to use the kde file dialog in firefox?
[06:27] <alva> how do I play youtube in firefox 9./04?
[06:27] <office> alva youtube play only in flash
[06:27] <alva> office waht??
[06:27] <ziroday> dmbkiwi: no clue :)
[06:27] <office> that !
[06:27] <ziroday> alva: you need to install flash
[06:27] <ziroday> alva: what version of ubuntu?
[06:27] <office> no other options
[06:28] <alva> zirscroll back
[06:28] <alva> how do I play youtube in firefox 9./04?
[06:28] <office> fuck !
[06:28] <office> you must install flashplayer
[06:28] <alva> how?
[06:28] <ziroday> office: don't swear.
[06:28] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: How much space is left on your amain  internal hard drive.
[06:28] <office> are you dumb or what ?
[06:28] <ziroday> alva: go to youtube.com and you should see a little dropdown asking you to install flash
[06:28] <ziroday> office: no need for that
[06:28] <dmbkiwi> grrr, what do people see in gnome?
[06:28] <alva> doesnt work for 9.04
[06:28] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, I have barely enough. :[
[06:28] <civpro> ziroday, http://pastebin.com/m105cc2aa
[06:28] <ziroday> dmbkiwi: ranting in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[06:29]  * billybigrigger_ was just going to pass on his patience award to office...but slowly puts it back on his desk
[06:29] <ohzie> dmbkiwi, XFCE imo
[06:29] <ziroday> alva: okay, install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[06:29] <ziroday> civpro: thanks
[06:29] <dmbkiwi> ziroday: just venting ;-) completely different from ranting.
[06:29] <alva> it says: There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/0EtKTNjN.deb.part.
[06:29] <alva> Remove unnecessary files from the disk and try again, or try saving in a different location.
[06:29] <ziroday> civpro: woohoo, it worked!
[06:29] <office> ziroday, how many times she ask thesame ?
[06:29] <LinuxNIT> how come in ubuntu i only have the options for 40/128 bit wep encryption and no 64-bit ?
[06:29] <ziroday> civpro: now restart and you should be good to go
[06:29] <civpro> ok now what?
[06:29] <civpro> how do i remotely restart with ssh?
[06:29] <ziroday> alva: you're disk is full, empty it
[06:30] <ziroday> civpro: sudo reboot
[06:30] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: Doyou have Dual layer dvd recordables/
[06:30] <dmbkiwi> civpro: sudo reboot
[06:30] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, Nah.
[06:30] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: Doesn't really seem as though it would matter. WEP isn't real security.
[06:30] <alva> empty it  how?
[06:30] <civpro> btw, thanks man
[06:30] <ohzie> Cryptic_Donkey, I'll store what I need off the external in my /var drive and reformat the usb if you think that'll work
[06:30] <ziroday> alva: delete files taking up space. Your hard drive is full, it has no more space.
[06:30] <ohzie> It's a pain in the ass, but it's superior to the alternative
[06:30] <unikon> where on freenode can a person get a hostmask
[06:30] <ziroday> unikon: #freenode
[06:31] <LinuxNIT> brassmaster, well my friend has a 64-bit encrypted network and i cant connect to it... so it seems to be secure for him
[06:31] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:31] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: WEP encryption is insecure, no matter what you do.
[06:31] <Cryptic_Donkey> ohzie: I think that is our only option on les you can some how  image the drive using dd or partimage/
[06:31] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4rAA21NPCI
[06:31] <LinuxNIT> ok i understand its security issues... but that dosent answer my original question
[06:32] <civpro> ok so will ssh show the graphic display?
[06:32] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: I believe 40 == 64
[06:32] <ziroday> civpro: no, you need to go downstairs for that :)
[06:32] <ChrisTwitty> I was wondering can I install ubuntu on a unibody MacBook
[06:32] <office> civpro, no
[06:32] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, how does that work?
[06:32] <civpro> ok brb
[06:32] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: no clue :)
[06:32] <linutic> hello
[06:33] <civpro> thats where vncviewer does come in handy :)
[06:33] <sacarlson> Were should I look to find help in getting my Canon IP1880 printer working on a Ubuntu 8.04 Amd64.   The drivers from Canon are for 32bit.  Google found others with similar printers and problems but not this one.
[06:33] <ziroday> ChrisTwitty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook should be helpful, come back if you're not sure about anything :)
[06:33] <dmbkiwi> civpro: you can display remote applications locally if you allow X over ssh
[06:33] <arvind_khadri> civpro, you can have it
[06:33] <arvind_khadri> civpro, ssh -X
[06:33] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:33] <linutic> happy mother's day to everyone ^_____^
[06:33] <Kareeser> Hey guys, I'm installing the Ubuntu Minimal CD onto a USB drive with limited space. What kind of performance hit am I going to experience if I avoid a swap partition altogether? Assuming I don't install GNOME or any other window manager...
[06:33] <ChrisTwitty> ziroday: Thanks
[06:33] <linutic> anyway, may i ask something?
[06:33] <arvind_khadri> !ask | linutic
[06:33] <Kareeser> Let's also assume the computer in question has a decent amount of RAM...
[06:33] <ziroday> Kareeser: none as long as you don't run out of ram
[06:33] <linutic> i have a problem with my Skype
[06:33] <Kareeser> ziroday: perfect, that's what I needed to know.
[06:33] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, do you know the difference between 128-bit and 128-bit passphrase?
[06:34] <linutic> I can't make a call
[06:34] <ziroday> Kareeser: once you're out of ram the thing will just crash
[06:34] <Kareeser> ziroday: *gulp*
[06:34] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:34] <civpro> still in textmod
[06:34] <civpro> mode*
[06:34] <Kareeser> ziroday: any warnings in place? :P
[06:34] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: err somewhat, passphrase wants a passphrase whilst 128 bit just wants the key
[06:34] <ziroday> Kareeser: not that I know of, keep an eye on free -m :)
[06:34] <ziroday> civpro: do startx
[06:34] <arvind_khadri> civpro, you need to enable X forwarding
[06:34] <arvind_khadri> !ssh | civpro
[06:34] <philipp> how can i read a .img image on linux?
[06:34] <Cryptic_Donkey> linutic: Wpa + psk with 64 or 128 bit pass phrases
[06:35] <Kareeser> philipp: burn it onto a CD
[06:35] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: feel free to PM the key/passphrase and I'll take a guess at which one it is :)
[06:35] <civpro> have to install xinit
[06:35] <philipp> yes
[06:35] <TheFunkbomb__> help
[06:35] <office> philipp, mouint -o loop
[06:35] <office> maybe works
[06:35] <ziroday> civpro: have you install X yet?
[06:35] <philipp> office please give me the entire syntax
[06:35] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: forums suggest using wicd. That may be an option for you. It supports 64-bit WEP.
[06:35] <Kareeser> jeeez, installing onto a USB stick is SLOOOW
[06:35] <linutic> Problem with Audio Playback
[06:35] <sacarlson> ﻿ linutic: can you text chat in your skype?  I had to change the setting of the default audio card.
[06:36] <civpro> ziro, this was server version, so do
[06:36] <civpro> i was testign with desktop cd
[06:36] <office> philipp, sudo mount -o yourfile.img /mnt
[06:36] <josspyker> upgrade 8.04->8.10, network manager disappeared
[06:36] <civpro> to see if it was the same issue
[06:36] <ziroday> civpro: ah, you need to install X and a DE.
[06:36] <linutic> i can text chat..but i'm having troubles with the audio
[06:36] <civpro> ok de also
[06:36] <office> philipp, sudo mount -o loop yourfile.img /mnt
[06:36] <Kareeser> josspyker: try running "nm-applet" in terminal?
[06:36] <office> im forget loop
[06:36] <office> ;p
[06:36] <ziroday> civpro: which DE would you like to install?
[06:36] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: Although if you like your friend, you might mention to them the problem with running a WEP network and fix this issue in a way that benefits both of you.
[06:36] <civpro> gnome
[06:36] <civpro> thats already installed
[06:36] <Kareeser> civpro: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <philipp> dosent matter
[06:37] <josspyker> Kareeser, I will that
[06:37] <josspyker> try
[06:37] <Kareeser> josspyker: :)
[06:37] <civpro> its installing
[06:37] <ziroday> Kareeser: I wouldn't jump to that, civpro probably doesn't want/need the entire ubuntu desktop and co. :)
[06:37] <linutic> what should i do?
[06:37] <civpro> oops
[06:37] <Kareeser> ziroday: hm.... good point.
[06:37] <civpro> crap
[06:37] <civpro> no i didnt
[06:37] <sacarlson> ﻿linutic: goto in skype options>sound device   and try some other settings
[06:37] <ziroday> civpro: press ctrl+c :)
[06:37] <Kareeser> civpro: ctrl-c!!
[06:37] <linutic> ok..
[06:37] <LinuxNIT> brassmaster, the really wierd part is that when i try to connect in Vista it wants me to login with a username and password (which i know his network dosent use)
[06:37] <linutic> wait
[06:37] <civpro> done
[06:38] <civpro> wow
[06:38] <ziroday> civpro: do sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment
[06:38] <philipp> office... geht a error messge that says i have to enter a data system
[06:38] <civpro> ok
[06:38] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, the key is  a1tks3nuyv those are the characters just not in the right order ;)
[06:38] <Eevee> how can I switch back to notification-daemon (jaunty)?  can't figure out where notify-osd is actually run from
[06:38] <linutic> hahaha..it did work sacarlson
[06:38] <linutic> thanks! ^_____^
[06:38] <brassmaster> LinuxNIT: Well, if you've been around Windows long enough, you should know not to expect consistent network configuration interfaces there either.
[06:38] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: okay, is it equally jumbled up when in the right order?
[06:38] <Kareeser> Eevee: notify-osd superceeded notification-daemon, I believe
[06:38] <office> philipp, show me this error
[06:39] <Kareeser> Eevee: which means I don't think notification-daemon is installed anymore. double check fo rme :P
[06:39] <civpro> ok so tell me really quick, with putty show do i do ssh X?
[06:39] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, what do you mean?
[06:39] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: its fine
[06:39] <tech> anyone know how to setup pptpd
[06:39] <pumpkinseed> i swear... why is it that every stupid thing one wants to do in ubuntu is impossible
[06:39] <linutic> anyone here who uses eeebuntu?
[06:39] <civpro> putty how*
[06:39] <Eevee> Kareeser: yeah I already had a look, both are still installed
[06:39] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: unlucky? :)
[06:39] <TheFunkbomb__> can someone help me add unallocated space to my ext3 partition?
[06:39] <philipp> office mount: Sie müssen den Dateisystemtyp angeben
[06:39] <Cryptic_Donkey> LinuxNIT: The only way you would have to iplement radius in order to have really secure network
[06:39] <pumpkinseed> i'm trying to play a movie in vlc and when I use headphones the volume drops practically to zero
[06:39] <brassmaster> !flame | pumpkinseed
[06:39] <ziroday> Eevee: you need to install err gnome-stracitella (or whatever its called)
[06:40] <office> philipp, i dont know german :)
[06:40] <office> philipp, sudo modprobe loop
[06:40] <maco> Eevee: gnome-stracciatella
[06:40] <Eevee> ehh no way I can just flick something in a config file?
[06:40] <Kareeser> Eevee: no clue how to go back to notification-daemon... what problems are you exp. with notify-osd?
[06:40] <office> philipp, sudo mkdir /1
[06:40] <ziroday> maco: thanks :)
[06:40] <civpro> pumpkin, i prefer 1337 player, not sure if there is a linux equivalent, but im pretty sure
[06:40] <tech> I am looking for help installing pptpd. I have it running however the windows client doesn't connect
[06:40] <maco> ziroday: two c's or just gnome-strac<tab>
[06:40] <pumpkinseed> its 1:40am here and I can't play this viua speakers
[06:40] <office> philipp, sudo mount -o loop file.img /1
[06:40] <ziroday> maco: not running jaunty (yet)
[06:40] <linutic> anyway..brb
[06:40] <Kareeser> tech: what's pptpd? maybe there's an alternative
[06:40] <maco> ziroday: eh i have it memorized now after pasting it from a shell so many times
[06:40] <tech> Kareeser  vpn server
[06:41] <ziroday> maco: haha
[06:41] <Kareeser> tech: it's in the ubuntu repositories. Have you tried "apt-get install pptpd"?
[06:41] <maco> ziroday: but you can tell people: sudo apt-get  install gnome-strac<tab>
[06:41] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: you still with me?
[06:41] <Eevee> Kareeser: using dual monitors, and the notifications show up on the one I look at about 10% of the time because I don't have a top panel.  proposed solution appears to be gconf to make them follow focus, which is inconsistent with the default and still not what I want
[06:41] <LinuxNIT> still here
[06:41] <tech> Kareeser yes I have it installed, and followed the  instructions to do chap secrets and all, however the windows client doesn't seem to see it
[06:41] <Kareeser> Eevee: Ah, right, that's a "design feature"... kinda dumb, eh?
[06:41] <TheFunkbomb__> can someone help me add unallocated space to my ext3 partition?
[06:42] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: you want WEP 40/128-bit key
[06:42] <Eevee> Kareeser: also the queuing is painful when an app spits out several rapid-fire (such as mashing next-song more than a couple times)
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> civpro: fantastic, but I'm not going to install a new piece of software especially dedicated to playing movies at night on headphones as not to wake my neighbors. call me picky but I would imagine VLC could fulfill the task of playing movie audio via headphones at a decent db
[06:42] <civpro> pumpkin, can i make a suggestion to you?
[06:42] <Eevee> Kareeser: yeah I don't really understand why they can't just be "near the tray", whatever that may mean
[06:42] <Kareeser> tech: I'm no help there, sorry.
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> shoot
[06:42] <civpro> xbmc kicks ass, not only for music, but for movies also
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> oh yeah!
[06:42] <civpro> no codec installs to worry about
[06:42] <Kareeser> Eevee: Apparently, it's the place where it'll be least obtrusive. which makes sense, in a way
[06:42] <lwizardl> I was wondering generally what does a traditional server (in a rack server case like 1U or 2U) cost to run in electricity ?
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> i actually have xbmc installed
[06:42] <brassmaster> pumpkinseed: Does it happen on every file you use?
[06:42] <pumpkinseed> hehe
[06:42] <civpro> i have it installed on my xbox
[06:42] <Kareeser> Eevee: As for dual-monitors, they just haven't gotten around to that. I'd love to move mine to my secondary monitor too...!!
[06:43] <pumpkinseed> that program IS awesome!
[06:43] <civpro> yes
[06:43] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, if i choose that then the connect/ok button stays greyed out
[06:43] <ziroday> lwizardl: this isn't the right place to ask. ##hardware or #ubuntu-offftopic
[06:43] <pumpkinseed> brassmaster: first time I've actually tried
[06:43] <philipp> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/madwifi, it will be ignored in a future release. office
[06:43] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: hmph
[06:43] <LinuxNIT> ziroday, if i choose 128-passphrase it fails to connect
[06:43] <Eevee> Kareeser: well they're so unobtrusive that now I never see them  8)  my second monitor usually has a fullscreen terminal on it, so I just have a black bubble with white text show up on a black window with white text
[06:43] <Cryptic_Donkey> ziroday: LinuxNIT  the most secure  ilpementation of wifi is wpa  with psk and a 64 to 128 bit passphrase
[06:43] <yanghui> 1628.408425] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.408432]  unable to read partition table
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.408891] sd 49:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.408973] sd 49:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.409095] sd 49:0:0:1: [sdc] READ CAPACITY failed
[06:43] <FloodBot3> yanghui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <yanghui> [ 1628.409097] sd 49:0:0:1: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[06:44] <civpro> yanghui, use pastebin
[06:44] <pumpkinseed> its happening in xbmc as well
[06:44] <LinuxNIT> Cryptic_Donkey, im not concerned with what is the most secure, i just want to know why i can not connect to my friends network
[06:44] <pumpkinseed> probably because I have 7.1 speakers
[06:44] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: you sure you typed in all 10 chars?
[06:44] <LinuxNIT> yes
[06:44] <Kareeser> Eevee: I do wish that there would be at least some sort of config file to let us move it around... even something messy like that would be better than what's there now
[06:44] <office> philipp, do next what i write
[06:44] <civpro> are you using line out or speaker out pumpkin?
[06:44] <ziroday> Cryptic_Donkey: thank you, I'm sure by now we have hit LinuxNIT over the head enough about it
[06:44] <brianski> this might not be the right channel, but does anyone know how i can replace a few files on an iso with updated versions?
[06:44] <philipp> he says i have to enter a data system office
[06:44] <ziroday> Kareeser: that is planned for karmic
[06:45] <Eevee> Kareeser: well, doing the right thing with no config is fine, as long as it actually does the right thing
[06:45] <LinuxNIT> its not my network, im not the administrator
[06:45] <Kareeser> ziroday: sweeeeet. 5 months to go.
[06:45] <civpro> ya 7.1 is non amplified, because it has an external amp, headsets need line out
[06:45] <philipp> office no a data system type
[06:45] <Kareeser> Eevee: indeed.
[06:45] <ziroday> LinuxNIT: umm, I'm not really sure sorry, that should work (and works over here). Only other idea I have is wicd
[06:45] <pumpkinseed> god... this is uber stupid. I even have the "Headphone surround effect" checked off in VLC's Audio Preferences
[06:46] <civpro> :P
[06:46] <LinuxNIT> hmm
[06:46] <LinuxNIT> ok thanks
[06:46] <civpro> ok so its xstart?
[06:46] <office> philipp, try  sudo mount -t udf -o loop file.img /1
[06:46] <Hystoriker> can anybody please help me with getting rid of some installed packages. I cannot remove two packages which were not installed correctly durign a previous installation process.
[06:47] <civpro> xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
[06:47] <civpro> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
[06:47] <Hystoriker> trying "sudo apt-get purge -f" did not help
[06:47] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: dpkg --configure -a
[06:47] <civpro> let me go downstairs and try again
[06:47] <mrec> hi, is there any trick how to enable wireless on a notebook? for some reason the wireless icon disappeared on the panel and I can't get it online using iwconfig either
[06:47] <Cryptic_Donkey> yanghui: Please install pastebinit
[06:48] <brianski> mrec - maybe you hit the wireless switch by accident?
[06:48] <mrec> lan is able to gather some packets for retrieving the dhcp address but the tcp stack doesn't return any data..
[06:48] <brianski> mrec: were you ever online before with this computer?
[06:48] <mrec> brianski: nope
[06:48] <mrec> yes
[06:48] <philipp> office... mount point does not exist
[06:48] <mrec> but only through wifi
[06:48] <yanghui> thanks
[06:48] <brianski> so what happened around the time your wireless icon went away
[06:48] <office> philipp, did you: sudo mkdir /1
[06:48] <mrec> and ms windows
[06:48] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: that doesn't help either. entering it doesnt give any information back, but the problem remains
[06:48] <office> philipp, ?
[06:49] <philipp> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[06:49] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: nothing at all? hrm.
[06:49] <philipp>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[06:49] <philipp>        Manchmal liefert das Syslog wertvolle Informationen – versuchen
[06:49] <philipp>        Sie  dmesg | tail  oder so
[06:49] <FloodBot3> philipp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <nmvictor> Any  idea of a good terminal-based network monitoring package out their.Please PM me,im using irssi and so I might miss the repliess,Just PM me please
[06:49] <pumpkinseed> anyone know how to make headphones play at a decent volume? My speakers are 7.1 so I suspect that may be the issue
[06:50] <office> philipp, then i dont know what type of image is this file
[06:50] <philipp> .img
[06:50] <office> heh
[06:50] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: no, nothing at all. i am working on kubuntu 9.04, if that may be of interest
[06:50] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: then dpkg believes the packages were installed fully. Have you tried uninstalling them with the purge function? apt-get purge [package]
[06:50] <Raf> Hi all
[06:50] <Kareeser> Raf: Hey!
[06:50] <office> philipp, you dont understand ;)
[06:51] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: oooorrr... apt-get install --reinstall [package]
[06:51] <Raf> Can someone please help me configure Nautilus so that I can use it as an FTP/SCP program?
[06:51] <Cryptic_Donkey> philipp: please install pastebinit and use that to post the files related to your query on paste.ubuntu.com
[06:51] <office> Raf, normal
[06:51] <Raf> office, what?
[06:51] <office> Raf, sftp://user:pass@host
[06:51] <office> Raf, sftp://user:pass@host:/folder
[06:52] <Raf> office: thanks, i'll try it.
[06:52] <pumpkinseed> anyone?
[06:52] <office> or scp://user:pass@host:/folder
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: Have you tried looking in the audio preferences?
[06:52] <pumpkinseed> yes.....
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: sorry, not audio preferences... I mean, double clicking the audio icon
[06:52] <pumpkinseed> every single thing is up all the way
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: since the headphone channel is on a different slider
[06:52] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: you'd want to turn it down... if it's too loud...
[06:53] <pumpkinseed> sound works fine, it just plays super low when I plug in headphones
[06:53] <Cryptic_Donkey> pumpkinseed: Please stae your issue clearly so that others in the cahnnel may better assist you.
[06:53] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: nothing of it works, both times the apt-get returns that no dir file was speciefied and thus it cannot go on
[06:53] <Raf> office: no...
[06:53] <Raf> office: I need to set it up for
[06:53] <Raf> wait
[06:53] <Raf> query office
[06:53] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: can you paste the error into a pastebin so we can see it?
[06:54] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: brb, ask someone else for a while, sorry!!
[06:55] <pumpkinseed> here is the clearest I can state this: I am running Ubuntu 9.04 64bit. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 4 and 7.1 Speakers. My daemon.conf file is set to 8channel output and my speakers work fine at 7.1, but when I plug in headphones (tested several) the audio output is quiet as a moust (you can hear the audio, but barely). Its late here and I'd like to watch a movie... can anyone help.
[06:55] <pumpkinseed> moust = mouse
[06:57] <pumpkinseed> Kareeser: By the way, just for the record, double-clicking the audio icon (at least in ubuntu 9.04) mutes the sound. Again, the audio speaker icon next to the time up top on the screen.... if you double click it, you MUTE your sound.
[06:57] <MaGicMaX1> anyone here familiar with Wine?
[06:57] <fermulator> kind of
[06:57] <iceroot> !anyone | MaGicMaX1
[06:58] <fermulator> MaGicMaX1: What's the Q?
[06:58] <MaGicMaX1> ok well im noob to wine, i would like to run WoW with it, i have it installed on my windows install, i hear i need to install it with wine, how do i do that?
[06:58] <perscitus> Anyone  know the command to turn off join/leave messages in xchat2?
[06:58] <pumpkinseed> anyone on the headphone issue?
[06:58] <pumpkinseed> or should I format my hard drive and install windows
[06:59] <Cryptic_Donkey> MaGicMaX1: Please check the wine apdata base at winehq.org
[06:59] <m3ment0_> quick question guys: when you install a package (apt-get) and it comes up with an ncurses thing that asks you questions (do you want to enable this service ect)... how can you get back to that config? apt-get reintall doesn't do it, uninstall/install doesn't
[07:00] <fermulator> MaGicMaX1: This is your best bet to start: have a read @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[07:00] <sexcopter1> hi, is anyone finding pulseaudio is constantly eating cpu (whether audio is playing or not)? It's sitting on around 30-40% for me on a 1.6gig Pentium M laptop.
[07:00] <Eevee> pumpkinseed: did you unhide all the sliders in volume control?
[07:01] <fermulator> sexcopter1: I have ubuntu 9.04 running on an older Athlon XP 3200+ system, and I find it eats 15% CPU while in use (playing audio), but very little while not playing audio
[07:01] <lflashlnzl> is there a way to stop xchat showing when people join and leaving rooms?
[07:01] <fermulator> (figured it was normal)
[07:01] <pumpkinseed> eevee: yes
[07:01] <MaGicMaX1> fermulator: thx for the link, ill take a look
[07:01] <sexcopter1> fermulator: hmm. do you have it set up for network sound (ie sending audio to another computer on a lan)?
[07:01] <m_> somebuddy help to my visual effect extra
[07:02] <Flannel> lflashlnzl: Yeah, right click the tab (the channel tab) and then there's an option for it in one of the menus (properties or something?)
[07:02] <doc|work> hey. I'm trying to use the command line minimal install of ubuntu on an epia box but it's not recognising the network driver. Anyone come across this/
[07:02] <Datz1> Hello, Wikipedia used to have a table with versions and the dates they are supported until. I don't see it now for ubuntu. Is there a time table such as this elsewhere?
[07:02] <doc|work> ?
[07:02] <fermulator> sexcopter1: no, it's default config stuff.
[07:02] <perscitus> Is it possible to move panels in Jaunty? it seems normal dragging of panels dont work anymore
[07:02] <Eevee> m3ment0_: might be dpkg --reconfigure but I'm not sure
[07:03] <Eevee> perscitus: alt-drag
[07:03] <lflashlnzl> Flannel, thanks found it, getting sick of so many people leaving and join
[07:03] <fermulator> perscitus: hold ALT and move
[07:03] <sexcopter1> fermulator: ok, I have the whole network thing going on, which may compound things. thanks anyhow
[07:03] <perscitus> fermulator ->  what about panel items?
[07:03] <Datz1> I wonder if someone deleted the wikipedia graph timetable recently...I will have to see if I can undo it.
[07:03] <fermulator> sexcopter1: oh sorry, ya i don't have any experience with that, but at least you know to expect SOME usage during playback
[07:03] <iceroot> !release | Datz1
[07:04] <perscitus> fermulator ->  ioops ignore hat
[07:04] <fermulator> perscitus: right click, "unlock", right click, "move"
[07:04] <fermulator> ;0
[07:04] <Kareeser> doc|work: what card do you have?
[07:04] <Datz1> iceroot, thanks
[07:04] <Gate> I have an XP/Ubuntu x86/Ubuntu x64 triple boot install, can anyone direct me to a resource or tell me if it is possible to use the debian automagic kernels settings in menu.lst to maintain the GRUB entries for both Ubuntu installs?
[07:04] <m3ment0_> Eevee: ty
[07:04] <fermulator> Gate: I have tip for you
[07:05] <doc|work> Kareeser: I have no clue :) It's an old box I bought second hand, how do I find out?
[07:05] <fermulator> Gate: For my "multiple" installations of OS .. I use the "boot master" method.  Create an extra 128MB (or similar size) ext2 partition.
[07:05] <hateball> What's the proper way to restart network-manager in Jaunty?
[07:05] <perscitus> Gate ->  Why 32 and 64bit Ubuntu?
[07:05] <fermulator> Gate: copy the entire /boot contents from your latest disto (whichever one contains the version of grub you want to use)
[07:06] <Datz1> iceroot: Are releases always updateable through download?
[07:06] <Flannel> Datz1: Yes.
[07:06] <iceroot> Datz1: update and upgrade, yes
[07:06] <fermulator> Gate: modify the "boot master" grub to only contain your OS entries using "chainloader"
[07:06] <Flannel> !upgrade | Datz1
[07:06] <nmvictor> hateball:maybe at the terminal,some commands would do
[07:06] <Kareeser> doc|work: lspci -v
[07:06] <Gate> 32 bit for normal operations, and I am experimenting with x64 still (certain things weren't up to par the last time I tried it, 2 years ago) perscitus
[07:07] <fermulator> Gate: and setup that "boot master" grub to the MBR, and the rest of the grubs go to the partition of each distro
[07:07] <doc|work> Kareeser: hmmm, ok, give me a few mins to boot up the box
[07:07] <fermulator> Gate: make sense? (or do you need more explanation)
[07:07] <doc|work> m_: I have priv msgs blocked
[07:07] <Datz1> iceroot: Thanks again
[07:07] <Gate> interesting fermulator
[07:07] <hateball> nmvictor: Well yes... _which_ ones tho? It used to be /etc/event.d/and so on, but that seems to be gone in Jaunty
[07:07] <Gate> Effectively it defers to each distro for its loading options?
[07:07] <fermulator> Gate: for me, it's nice, that way your "master boot" doesn't contain all those annoying kernel entries, and gives you a nice clean "OS Selector".
[07:08] <perscitus> fermulator ->  couldnt he have boot partition?
[07:08] <fermulator> Gate: exactly;  simple chainloading
[07:08] <sbomer> hi
[07:08] <fermulator> perscitus: no, because if all distros share the same boot partition, it becomes messy
[07:09] <Gate> perscitus: I suspect the versions of Ubuntu would trample each other's Kernel images
[07:09] <civpro> guys its still now showing up
[07:09] <fermulator> Gate: indeed
[07:09] <perscitus> fermulator ->  Sounds like bug suggestion.
[07:09] <pumpkinseed> what do you call an OS that requires you spending 45% of your uptime fixing bugs (or trying to) and scouring the internet for arcane fixes? Ubuntu
[07:09] <Gate> fermulator: could I simplify that method to simply placing a chainload command in my current menu.lst that defers to the x64's?
[07:09] <Cryptic_Donkey> I try to stick with the long term  support release
[07:10] <Kareeser> pumpkinseed: don't be hatin', lots of us have no problems out of the box
[07:10] <Cryptic_Donkey> I try to stick with the long term  support releases
[07:10] <pumpkinseed> i doubt that
[07:10] <Kareeser> meh.
[07:10] <perscitus> Cryptic_Donkey ->  until you buy hardware that only new kernels support.
[07:10] <fermulator> Gate: ya for sure you could if you don't want to mess around with creating anothe rpartition and re-installing grub.  (CAVEAT:  If your 32bit distro ever gets buggered, you'll have to fix the mbr to get into the x64 bit...) but otherwise you'd be OK
[07:11] <civpro> how can i use pastebinit, with a log file?
[07:11] <MaGicMaX1> question about runing WoW with wine, ive decided to copy my windows install of WoW over, should i just put it in my home folder?
[07:11] <Gate> Thanks fermulator, I am off to try it!
[07:11] <fermulator> Gate: sweet! good luck
[07:11] <Cryptic_Donkey> I stick to the thirty two bit release
[07:12] <civpro> can someone give me a hand with getting my display working please?
[07:12] <nmvictor> civpro:you open the log file,copy the contents and paste them at pastebin
[07:12] <Kareeser> civpro: what's the error?
[07:12] <civpro> nm, its very long and im ssh'ed in
[07:12] <Tyrath> I installed the new openoffice.org version 3.1 and am failing at uninstalling it - i installed it via deb, but there's a stack of packages and sudo dpkg -r * won't work
[07:12] <civpro> so i can talk on here at the same time
[07:12] <clode> Hi all
[07:12] <civpro> kereeser, many many errors
[07:13] <clode> I've got a quick question about upgrading to 9.04
[07:13] <Kareeser> civpro: right, go to pastebin.ubuntu.com, and paste your messages there. then paste the link here
[07:13] <nmvictor> clode hi
[07:13] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: sorry, i was away for a sec. look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/168156/, i have tried to translate my german output a little
[07:13] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: well it would have to go under the wine c: drive, ~/.wine/drive_c
[07:13] <Tyrath> also, the new ubuntu won't let me move my windows, unless I vouch for no extra effects :/
[07:13] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: that's with apt-get purge?
[07:13] <clode> I own a samsung nc10 with intrepid ibex working properly
[07:13] <clode> any real risk by upgrading to the last version ?
[07:14] <zvacet> Tyrath: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package_name
[07:14] <Kareeser> clode: minimal. unless you have an intel card
[07:14] <nmvictor> civpro:maybe you need to paste only the important part,regarding your problem
[07:14] <Kareeser> clode: gfx card, that is.
[07:14] <smr904> does anybody know how to make the screen resolution permanent? - each time I log in I have a 1025x768 res. then I have to set it to 1280x1024 next time i login I have to do the same all over again...
[07:14] <clode> hum ok
[07:14] <smr904> any ideas?
[07:14] <clode> I will have to check that
[07:14] <clode> thx
[07:14] <Kareeser> smr904: are you familiar with xrandr?
[07:14] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: yes, with "sudo apt-get purge -f"
[07:14] <Tyrath> zvacet: and what if it's a bunch of different packages?
[07:14] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: blaaah...
[07:14] <fermulator> clode: also, if you have ATI you need to pre-configure some stuff before upgrading
[07:14] <evilGUI> Hello, I really need some help this has been driving me insane... I have a E5200 2.5Ghz CPU and a 8600GT using the 180 drivers in Jaunty. In VLC or Totem if I play a video from the hdd I get shuttering/choppy video.
[07:14] <fermulator> clode: nvidia should work without problems
[07:15] <smr904> Kareeser: heard of it.. but people say do it on your own risk..
[07:15] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: i cant seem to browse there... i dont see a C drive
[07:15] <Cryptic_Donkey> clode: Please post a review of thae afformentioned samsoung model on th elinuxlaptop wiki so that others may benifit from your exsperiences
[07:15] <smr904> Kareeser: what shall I do with it?
[07:15] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: I've suggested all I can think of, so at this point, try posting a message to ubuntu forums
[07:15] <clode> ok Well actually I think it's an intel because it's a netbook
[07:15] <clode> that I've got
[07:15] <evilGUI> It happens with any video format.
[07:15] <Kareeser> smr904: you can change your resolution in it from the command line. Now, with that said, you can make a script that'll do that every bootup
[07:15] <LinuxDemon> Hey folks!
[07:15] <evilGUI> I've reinstalled the drivers reinstalled gstreamer as well as the players :/
[07:15] <clode> Cryovat Cryptic_Donkey : ok I'll do that
[07:15] <Kareeser> smr904: like... "xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024"
[07:15] <Hystoriker> Kareeser: thanks for your help
[07:16] <evilGUI> Any ideas?
[07:16] <LinuxDemon> I have a question about mail servers when someone has a minute, pelase?
[07:16] <nmvictor> LinuxDemon:Hey dude
[07:16] <Kareeser> Hystoriker: sorry I couldn't fix it :(
[07:16] <smr904> Kareeser: I see.. what about edditing manually the xorg.org once and for good?
[07:16] <LinuxDemon> Hey there!
[07:16] <_newbie4> hello how are you, etc.  i need to reinstall my system ( <3 ) and I was wondering two things:  how can i make a list (preferably human readable, at the least apt readable) of what i have installed, and 64-bit or 32bit.  64 wasn't there in 8.10, so I'm asking agan
[07:16] <Kareeser> smr904: Also a good idea. You may need to create something called a "modeline"
[07:16] <Cryptic_Donkey> Hystoriker: Ypou would be beter server to use linuxquestion.org and pleases search the site before making posting your problem.
[07:16] <clode> bye
[07:16] <leaphion> problem: how can I avoid that when I put a DVD-RW in my DVD-drive that it auto-starts and GNOME opens it up automatically in Nautilus, so when I'm going to erase it, there comes an error that it can't be ejected because some program is keeping it open?
[07:16] <evilGUI> I've been trying to fix this for weeks.
[07:17] <smr904> Kareeser: I think I added one, but it doesn't seem to help
[07:17] <zvacet> Tyrath : I don´t know I never try to remove that kind of package
[07:17] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: don't see it where?  can't find .wine, or there's no drive_c in it?  should be a 'browse C drive' under Applications > Wine iirc
[07:17] <evilGUI> mplayer doesn't do this, although wont display my subtitles.
[07:17] <_newbie4> evilGUI: any video?
[07:17] <Kareeser> smr904: run "xrandr" with no arguments. 1280x1024 should show up... does it?
[07:17] <civpro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/  is the log
[07:17] <evilGUI> _newbie4: Any video.
[07:17] <Tyrath> zvacet: see my main problem is that I can't install openoffice.org3 from apt because it thinks it's already installed
[07:17] <Kareeser> smr904: in terminal, btw.
[07:17] <LinuxDemon> Sorry, my first time on IRC... do I just blurt out the question or wait to be addressed?
[07:17] <_newbie4> evilGUI: what type of file?
[07:17] <Kareeser> LinuxDemon: blurt. :)
[07:17] <civpro> sorry
[07:17] <civpro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168449/
[07:18] <powertoo108> Has anyone had ncmpc break on them recently? I get error [11]: problems creating socket
[07:18] <Kareeser> LinuxDemon: it goes by fast here, so someone who's free will take you up on your problem, hopefully.
[07:18] <podecoet> I just installed jaunty with nvidia drivers, I turned on twinview. I get a second screen correctly, but I cant rightclick it and setup wallpapers or anything - whats going on?
[07:18] <evilGUI> _newbie4: h.264 quicktime, h.264 mkv, xvid, divx.
[07:18] <LinuxDemon> Thanks, Kareeser!
[07:19] <Kareeser> podecoet: can you drag windows to it?
[07:19] <evilGUI> _newbie4: The video is really jerky.
[07:19] <Tyrath> zvacet: well thanks anyway
[07:19] <Tyrath> catch you later
[07:19] <podecoet> Kareeser: windows, but not icons
[07:19] <evilGUI> _newbie4: Also totem will sometimes crash when loading a video.
[07:19] <podecoet> Kareeser: I've added a panel on that display also
[07:20] <zvacet> Tyrath: Try with wild card and commanad  I posted to you that is best I can think of
[07:20] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: ok i think i got there by going Applications > Wine > Browse C:\ Drive i see three folders, program files, users, and windows. Im assuing it goes in Program Files?
[07:20] <Kareeser> podecoet: that's... odd. I've never heard of that happenning before
[07:20] <civpro> think there was some duplicate entries in the last post, here is the most recent one
[07:20] <civpro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168451/
[07:20] <evilGUI> _newbie4: The video plays fine then gets choppy and it repeats.
[07:20] <civpro> can someone take a look?
[07:20] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: yeah, the layout is just like on windows
[07:20] <indian_munnda> hi guys i am trying to install directx 9.0c in ubuntu using wine but i am getting an error "err:setupapi:do_file_copyW Unsupported style(s) 0x144". can anybody help?
[07:20] <podecoet> Kareeser: *cries*, I've been battling so many issues since yesterday lol
[07:20] <podecoet> Kareeser: maybe I should revert to hardy
[07:20] <smr904> Kareeser: did it - that's what it says:
[07:20] <evilGUI> _newbie4: it isn't using much CPU.
[07:20] <smr904>  minimum 320 x 240, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1024
[07:20] <smr904> default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[07:21] <_newbie4> evilGUI: only totem and vlc, not mplayer?
[07:21] <Kareeser> podecoet: try the forums first. It's not correct behaviour, so at the least, you can get a bug report in
[07:21] <civpro> err that didnt work either
[07:21] <_newbie4> evilGUI: what video driver
[07:21] <Kareeser> podecoet: at best, you'll get it fixed :)
[07:21] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: so once its in there just run the exe as i would in windows? do u know how to make a shortcut on desktop?
[07:21] <Kareeser> smr904: that's good... that means Ubuntu detects that resolution
[07:21] <Kareeser> smr904: weird how it doesn't select it.
[07:22] <LinuxDemon> Right now I'm using a WinXP box for a mail server.  I'd like to convert it to Ubuntu, but I have one concern:  I have a lot of custom PHP that mingles with the current mail database...  hMailServer uses a MySQL database to store user account info and stuff, and while I don't mind re-writing some code, I was wondering if the mail server that comes with Ubuntu stores it's user info in a mysql db as well... and if not, where/how I can edit account info us
[07:22] <LinuxDemon> ing PHP?
[07:22] <leaphion> _newbie4: regarding listing applications, check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182201
[07:22] <smr904> I'll try adding the modeline
[07:22] <evilGUI> _newbie4: mplayer is fine.
[07:22] <Kareeser> smr904: In my experience, adding the modeline only gets Ubuntu to detect the mode
[07:22]  * TheFunkbomb scolds everyone
[07:22] <indian_munnda> hi guys i am trying to install directx 9.0c in ubuntu using wine but i am getting an error "err:setupapi:do_file_copyW Unsupported style(s) 0x144". can anybody help?
[07:22] <_newbie4> leaphion: thank u
[07:23] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: right-click the exe, Make Link, drag the link it creates to the desktop
[07:23] <evilGUI> _newbie4: 180.
[07:23] <Kareeser> smr904: so I doubt that would work, but hey, worth a shot, right? Always backup your xorg.conf!
[07:23]  * podecoet strokes TheFunkbomb
[07:23] <_newbie4> evilGUI: what video driver areyou using?
[07:23] <Surlent777> hi; could someone tell me where I could find the XClient script that GDM has listed as a potential session?
[07:23] <javyn> hey.  can i get the seti screensaver in ubuntu?
[07:23] <javyn> so i can help search for alien life while my computer idles
[07:23] <smr904> Kareeser: right. thanks a lot for the idea.. I'll give that a try
[07:23] <nogagplz> indian_munnda, don't install native directx in wine. wine has its own implementation, and native breaks more than it fixes
[07:23] <evilGUI> _newbie4: I installed Nvidia's 180 from the hardware driver popup.
[07:23] <Kareeser> javyn: depends if SETI@Home has a linux client that outputs to a screensaver... chances are, no...
[07:23] <javyn> it is a worthy cause i'd like to donate cycles to
[07:24] <Kareeser> javyn: but... they probably have a command-line version
[07:24] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: thx, wow it works! lol
[07:24] <m_> can some one help me abt my visual effect extra
[07:24] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: no pun intended :P
[07:24] <javyn> looks like i need the "BOINC" client to get it
[07:24] <Kareeser> javyn: don't worry though, the screensaver is just for looks and doesn't actually DO anything. :)
[07:24] <sysdoc> podecoet, have you searched launchpad?
[07:24] <m_> is there any buddy intelligent is avelable or nit
[07:24] <javyn> the only one i found in the repo was for KDE, dangit
[07:24] <m_> sorry not
[07:24] <javyn> Kareeser:  well the seti one does something
[07:24] <Kareeser> m_: what's up?
[07:24] <indian_munnda> nogagplz: i was installing directx to for cedega. I have installed cedega but it not installing the game
[07:24] <Surlent777> javyn: What's interersting is that it is already statistically just barely short of impossible just for earth to exist, right?
[07:25] <civpro> sorry was having technical difficulties
[07:25] <civpro> here is a good post
[07:25] <civpro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168453/
[07:25] <Surlent777> that's just amazing in itself
[07:25] <civpro> i know for sure this time
[07:25] <Kareeser> indian_munnda: you shouldn't have to install direct X... wine supports it natively with calls to OpenGL
[07:25] <FloodBot3> civpro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <podecoet> sysdoc: I found alot of people with the same issue, but no solutions as yet, still searching
[07:25] <Surlent777> wow I worded that weird
[07:25] <civpro> kareeser, can you take a look?
[07:25] <Kareeser> indian_munnda: I've never gotten directX to work with Wine... so I avoid trying to install directX wherever possible.
[07:25] <sysdoc> podecoet,  ditto...
[07:25] <indian_munnda> Kareeser:  i was installing directx to for cedega. I have installed cedega but it not installing the game
[07:26] <LinuxDemon> Did anyone catch my question, perchance?
[07:26] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: ah, good!  you can put it on the menu, too; there's an editor in system > preferences > main menu
[07:26] <javyn> Surlent777:  I don't know about Earth, but I know that the odds of all the events happening to cause life to happen is close enough to zero to be considered statistically impossible
[07:26] <podecoet> sysdoc: it's worth noting, that after installing the restricted driver through the package manager, X broke... I had to do lspci | grep -i VGA, and add "BusID 03:00:0" to xorg.conf to make it work again :\
[07:26] <_newbie4> are you on a straight ubuntu install?
[07:26] <Kareeser> civpro: so are you trying to start an X session on the local computer?
[07:26] <Kareeser> civpro: or through vnc?
[07:27] <evilGUI> _newbie4: VLC works perfect after reinstalling the drivers, totem still does the same thing.
[07:27] <Kareeser> LinuxDemon: Totally. Except it's very specific... :(
[07:27] <civpro> both
[07:27] <Kareeser> LinuxDemon: I think there's a better channel for that... um...
[07:27] <Eevee> javyn: ah, but if it hadn't happened you wouldn't be here to observe that anyway
[07:27] <civpro> neither way will work
[07:27] <evilGUI> Anyone else here have playback issues with a 8600GT?
[07:27] <Kareeser> evilGUI: none with an 8800gt.
[07:27] <Kareeser> evilGUI: have you tried installing drivers straight from the nvidia site?
[07:27] <podecoet> evilGUI: none with an 2 x 8800gts
[07:27] <_newbie4> evilGUI: did you reboot after the reinstall?
[07:27] <podecoet> *-an
[07:27] <Eevee> LinuxDemon: I know you can hook postfix up to mysql, but I don't know if postfix is in ubuntu server by default or what the schema is or much beyond that it's possible
[07:27] <javyn> got the screensaver, but it's a sh file, no idea what to do with that lol
[07:28] <Surlent777> javyn: That's sorta what I'm leaning towards. Statistically speaking, we shouldn't exist. We exist only because of an incredibly precise balance of various factors in the universe. If any of a multitude of things were changed just slightly, we would die
[07:28] <evilGUI> Kareeser: I haven't.
[07:28] <Kareeser> civpro: okay... how did you install the nvidia driver?
[07:28] <evilGUI> _newbie4: Yes.
[07:28] <LinuxDemon> Kareeser:  Thank you so much!!
[07:28] <Kareeser> evilGUI: worth a shot... :)
[07:28] <podecoet> evilGUI: Are you getting tearing?
[07:28] <javyn> Surlent777: I don't see it like that, but I'm not willing to get into that discussion.  Too lazy
[07:28] <Kareeser> LinuxDemon: no thanks needed, I didn't do anything :(
[07:28] <powertoo108> LinuxDemon: You might have better luck in the server channel #ubuntu-server iirc
[07:28] <Kareeser> there it is!
[07:28] <Kareeser> thanks, powertoo108
[07:28] <javyn> I'll just say look up Alex Collier on youtube and listen to him
[07:29] <LinuxDemon> Thank you!
[07:29] <javyn> it'll be entertaining, if anything
[07:29] <LinuxDemon>      /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>
[07:29] <civpro> Kareeser, sudo apt-get install nvidia-gtx-  i think it was 80
[07:29] <civpro> 899
[07:29] <Surlent777> evilGUI: I'n not sure what you're talking about, but I use that 8600GT and have no graphical issues whatsoever with Ubuntu, aside from the TTY text getting blurry after I view an image with the framebuffer; only going to X and back fixes it
[07:29] <Kareeser> gaahhh! I'm installing ubuntu on a 2GB usb drive!! Why is it installing openoffice!!
[07:29] <civpro> err 800
[07:29] <smr904> Kareeser: hey, I think it worked - loged out and back in and it is the good resolution..
[07:29] <Surlent777> Kareeser: Office comes with it by default
[07:29] <LinuxDemon> shoot, sorry about that... trying to register a nick
[07:29] <sriramoman> google docs spreadsheet component doesnt seem to work for me:(
[07:29] <sriramoman> in ff3
[07:29] <Kareeser> Surlent777: booooo!!
[07:29] <sysdoc> podecoet, I have not had success with the 180 driver I have to use the 173 driver. However I don't suspect the driver but it may be worth some investigation
[07:29] <evilGUI> Surlent777: It's just video playback.
[07:29] <Surlent777> Kareeser: Would you rather use MS?
[07:29] <Kareeser> Surlent777: on a usb stick, I'd rather use nano ;)
[07:29] <indian_munnda> Kareeser:  i was installing directx to for cedega. I have installed cedega but it not installing the game
[07:29] <podecoet> sysdoc: did it break X?
[07:30] <_newbie4> evilGUI: I'm on an 8500 with no problems, off an ubuntu studio install; it sounds like you added something extra.  Are you running a prebuilt system?  Who made it?
[07:30] <Gate> hear hear Kareeser
[07:30] <Surlent777> Kareeser: I'd rather get a bigger USB stick ;)
[07:30] <smr904> the only problem now (well, it was there earlier too) is the flickering - especially when moving the mouse - I see these horisontal waves..
[07:30] <Kareeser> Surlent777: Need a job first :(
[07:30] <sbomer> Hi
[07:30] <evilGUI> _newbie4: This is a fresh install, I just selected the drivers like it told me to.
[07:30] <Kareeser> indian_munnda: I hear ya... but I have no suggestions at the moment, since I have never gotten directX to work for me...
[07:30] <podecoet> sysdoc: you have the same issue as I?
[07:30] <_newbie4> leaphion: thanks, anyway but I just wanted a list so i could reinstall my stuff.
[07:30] <civpro> kareeser, any ideas?
[07:30] <evilGUI> _newbie4: I built the machine, I didn't have these issues before Jaunty.
[07:30] <indian_munnda> Kareeser: oooo , sorry :(
[07:30] <Kareeser> indian_munnda: Perhaps you could try the wine forum on ubuntuforums.org?
[07:31] <_newbie4> evilGUI: what version of ubuntu
[07:31] <Surlent777> oh yeah, so does anyone know where I can find that XClient Script that GDM likes to brag about?
[07:31] <Kareeser> civpro: yes, sorry. Want to try installing them directly from the nvidia website?
[07:31] <evilGUI> _newbie4: 32bit 9.04.
[07:31] <_newbie4> evilGUI: dual or quad core?
[07:31] <BlinkyToon> indian_munnda,    that would be #WineHQ
[07:31] <civpro> um, i am thinking its a issue with the tv not the card
[07:31] <sysdoc> podecoet, no it allowed compiz and seperateX sessions to work in the previous ver of Ununtu. However the Seperate X sessions is broke in Jaunty but it is tolerable till a fix come out
[07:32] <civpro> i mean i might be wrong but the tv res is at 700x400
[07:32] <evilGUI> _newbie4: Dual E5200 2.5Ghz, should be over kill for sd playback.
[07:32] <indian_munnda> BlinkyToon: thank you
[07:32] <Surlent777> speaking of fixes, I noticed they never fixed blubuntu
[07:32] <Kareeser> civpro: so the x session starts...
[07:32] <civpro> should be a way to force the resolution to change in ubuntu
[07:32] <Kareeser> civpro: I thought the log said it didn't :)
[07:32] <_newbie4> ayone know about analog beta drivers for the hvr-1800 hauppauge card?
[07:32] <civpro> no it errors out
[07:32] <Kareeser> civpro: so... how are you getting that resolution?
[07:32] <sysdoc> podecoet, seperate x sessions is actually better that twinview IMO
[07:32] <civpro> displays it on the screen
[07:32] <evilGUI> _newbie4: I'll try the driver off of nvidia's site I guess.
[07:33] <Kareeser> civpro: ooh, the terminal resolution?
[07:33] <civpro> yes
[07:33] <Kareeser> civpro: that's irrelevant. I think.
[07:33] <civpro> ok just checking
[07:33] <_newbie4> evilGUI: did you upgrade any hardware recently?
[07:33] <xmount25> anyone know how to uncompress a rar file(i.e. r00, r01) from command line?
[07:33] <evilGUI> _newbie4: None.
[07:33] <Surlent777> xmount25: unrar?
[07:34] <Kareeser> xmount25: unrar file.r00
[07:34] <Kareeser> xmount25: it'll do the rest automatically
[07:34] <civpro> well i guess this will sound dumb, but i know how to install a driver through windows, but with no browser, and no setup utility, how am i supposed to get it from the website and install it?
[07:34] <xmount25> did that ... just comes up with the help options
[07:34] <Kareeser> xmount25: depending on your package, either unrar or unrar-nonfree, it'll have a switch... -x or -e, or nothing at all
[07:34] <Kareeser> civpro: one second :)
[07:34] <xmount25> is their a switch
[07:34] <xmount25> k
[07:34] <evilGUI> How would I install these? it wants me to be booted without x?
[07:34] <Kareeser> civpro: http://ubuntu.kareeser.com/?p=44
[07:34] <civpro> ok
[07:34] <_newbie4> evilGUI: apt-get remove -purge totem && sudo pt-get install totem  then tell me how it goes...
[07:35] <sriramoman> google docs spreadsheet component doesnt seem to work for me:(
[07:35] <Eevee> xmount25: looks like it's just x, not -x.  unrar x whatever.rar
[07:35] <xmount25> nice ... yeah it's just x no -x
[07:35] <Surlent777> evilGUI: Note the typo in that command
[07:35] <_newbie4> wow kvirc sucks for looking at, compared to konversation
[07:35] <evilGUI> Surlent777: Yeah.
[07:35] <Surlent777> evilGUI: After the dual ampersand, that should be apt-get, not pt-get
[07:35] <Surlent777> ok
[07:36] <_newbie4> ^^ what he said
[07:36] <Surlent777> I prefer irssi
[07:36] <Eevee> indeed
[07:36]  * _newbie4 [kicks his worthless wireless keyboard]
[07:36] <Surlent777> nice to look at, and themeable...plus awesome spam/script support ;)
[07:37] <evilGUI> _newbie4: Fixed it...
[07:37] <evilGUI> _newbie4: oddly enough, I purged it a few times before too.
[07:37] <c0ntract0r> Why can't I play mp3s in amarok? i have sound under prefs/sound test alsa
[07:37] <Surlent777> so, no one else has any idea about that XClient Script either, I guess. =/
[07:37] <_newbie4> evilGUI: gladd to help
[07:37] <Kareeser> fianlly
[07:37] <evilGUI> _newbie4: Thanks :D
[07:37] <sriramoman> c0ntract0r: ensure that xine plugins etc for amarok are properly installed.
[07:37] <Kareeser> after like an hour and a half, ubuntu installs onto my flash drive.
[07:37] <Surlent777> c0ntract0r: Get Ubuntu Restricted Extras from Synaptic or Add/Remove
[07:38] <evilGUI> Thanks everyone for their input.
[07:38] <c0ntract0r> I just downloaded the restricted extras from terminal, do i need to reboot for it to work?
[07:38] <Surlent777> I don't believe so
[07:39] <sriramoman> c0ntract0r: thats not enuf
[07:39] <valdur55> how leave`
[07:39] <Kareeser> sweeeet. 775MB Ubuntu install.
[07:39] <Kareeser> no DE.
[07:39] <Surlent777> DE?
[07:39] <Surlent777> oh
[07:39] <_newbie4> valdur55: just do /guit
[07:39] <Surlent777> nm
[07:39] <nmvictor> c0ntract0r:dont think so,only kernel upgrade would require restart
[07:39] <Kareeser> but your precious openoffice is on there. :P
[07:39] <Surlent777> hehe
[07:39] <zeke> I can't stop the x server and get an old school text only shell. if i try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" I just get a blinking cursor and can't do anything. If i do "sudo init 1" i get a prompt, but there is no local echo and i'm typing in the dark
[07:39] <_newbie4> uhh qs/g//
[07:39] <Kareeser> seriously, with no DE, how am I supposed to use it :P
[07:40] <Surlent777> Fluxbox
[07:40] <Surlent777> UDE
[07:40] <Surlent777> something small like that
[07:40] <tech> is there anyone that knows how to use linux server as a vpn server, or do I need windows 2008?
[07:40] <Kareeser> zeke: where are you typing that command?
[07:40] <nogagplz> zeke, control + alt + f1?
[07:40] <sriramoman> c0ntract0r: no restrat required but all libxine plugins for amarok are installed
[07:40] <zeke> in terminal
[07:40] <Kareeser> zeke: follow nogagplz's advice
[07:40] <_newbie4> hey so anyone know how I can get a cli version of what is currently installed on my system?
[07:40] <Kareeser> zeke: you have to drop down to tty1
[07:40] <Surlent777> _newbie4: I'm not sure I get what you mean
[07:40] <Kareeser> Surlent777: you assume I'm smart enough to set those things up :P
[07:41] <Myth`> I have an intermittent problem. My mouse and keyboard on my laptop are sometimes completely unresponsive at the login screen on Ubtunu 9.04.
[07:41] <_newbie4> evilGUI: did it work?
[07:41] <Surlent777> Kareeser: hahaha...I have no idea either
[07:41] <smr904> does anyone know how to get rid of the screen flickering (horisontal waves on the flat screen, when moving the mouse around)..
[07:41] <bullgard4> /var/log/daemon.log: "avahi-daemon: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.178.24. Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IP4 with address 192.168.178.24. Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for DNS." What does it mean to 'withdraw the address record for 192.168.178.24?
[07:41] <Kareeser> Myth`: Heh, me too.
[07:41] <Kareeser> bullgard4: Hey, I read about that today!
[07:41] <_newbie4> Surlent777: sorry, maybe in te middle of something.  What did you need?
[07:41] <Surlent777> I need to do a fresh install some time...but I need a huge backup thingy to put stuff on
[07:41] <evilGUI> _newbie4: came back :/
[07:41] <Myth`> Kareeser: Any luck with a solution?
[07:42] <Surlent777> _newbie4: I mean, I'm not sure I understand your question
[07:42] <_newbie4> evilGUI: cuz why?
[07:42] <Kareeser> bullgard4: Unless I am mistaken, that's just the daemon no longer associating your IP address with your MAC address. It usually times out after about 10 minutes.
[07:42] <bullgard4> Kareeser: And can you answer the question which I have put?
[07:42] <c0ntract0r> what are the names of the xine packages?
[07:42] <evilGUI> _newbie4: odd, all I did was reboot...
[07:42] <_newbie4> Surlent777: your question or mine?
[07:42] <Surlent777> yours
[07:43] <Surlent777> about CLI stuff
[07:43] <Kareeser> Myth`: Nope. I get frustrated and reboot. It usually works better on a hard reset, but I can't find any rhyme or reason to it.
[07:43] <sriramoman> c0ntract0r: libxine plugins
[07:43] <bullgard4> Kareeser: So I do not have no longer network access, or what?
[07:43] <Kareeser> Myth`: Have you tried using a usb keyboard?
[07:43] <_newbie4> evilGUI: and?!?
[07:43] <Kareeser> bullgard4: no, it should be fine, and re-associate after you try again. But then again, I could be completely off the mark.
[07:43] <evilGUI> _newbie4: It started messing up again :/
[07:43] <Kareeser> bullgard4: unless you are directly experiencing something wrong, I wouldn't worry
[07:43] <Myth`> Kareeser: Ya, same thing here. That's so strange. No I have not tried a USB keyboard. Have you had any luck with one?
[07:43] <bullgard4> Kareeser: What should I try again?
[07:43] <_newbie4> evilGUI: which one?
[07:44] <Kareeser> Myth`: don't have one, only ps/2 :)
[07:44] <Myth`> Kareeser: I'm on a Dell Vostro 2510.
[07:44] <evilGUI> _newbie4: totem.
[07:44] <sriramoman> c0ntract0r: http://wawan-kurniawan.web.id/play-mp3-with-amarok-in-ubuntu-jaunty-904/
[07:44] <_newbie4> evilGUI: and please tell me you are using three different files for each program
[07:44] <bullgard4> Kareeser: I indeed am experiencing trouble: I am loosing network access via eth0.
[07:44] <evilGUI> _newbie4: I am.
[07:44] <valdur55> Ok. How install Nvidia 96 driver? From CLI?
[07:45] <MaGicMaX1> question guys, is there a keyboard shortcut to open the "System Monitor" ?
[07:45] <_newbie4> evilGUI: totem only?
[07:45] <civpro> said no compiler found
[07:45] <bullgard4> Kareeser: What should I try again?
[07:45] <sriramoman> valdur55: nvidia 173 works better for me:)
[07:45] <Kareeser> bullgard4: oooh. then I am probably not of help here. I probably misdagnosed, sorry :(
[07:45] <Kareeser> diag*
[07:45] <Surlent777> MaGicMaX1: Not that I know of, but I think you should be able to set one yourself
[07:45] <evilGUI> _newbie4: Yeah.
[07:45] <Gnea> valdur55: click on System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, then 'activate' the nvidia driver
[07:45] <bullgard4> Kareeser: Thank you for commenting.
[07:45] <valdur55> How can get Video Card model?
[07:45] <Kareeser> bullgard4: best of luck!
[07:45] <valdur55> Activation goes Lagg
[07:45] <evilGUI> _newbie4: For some reason VLC seems to be fixed.
[07:45] <Kareeser> valdur55: lspci -v | grep VGA
[07:46] <c0ntract0r> sriramoman thank you so much that was my last issue! :)
[07:46] <civpro> kareeser, said no compiler found
[07:46] <sriramoman> c0ntract0r: now is it fine?
[07:46] <c0ntract0r> absolutely
[07:46] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: sorry about that, bios weirdness. It's a rhine II chipset I think
[07:46] <evilGUI> _newbie4: It lags for a bit when the video first gets loaded though.
[07:46] <c0ntract0r> it came awake with the danzig wide open LOL
[07:46] <_newbie4> evilGUI: good so it's working...
[07:46] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: wow, you're back. what was your problem again?
[07:46] <valdur55> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] (rev a3)
[07:46] <Gnea> valdur55: it can take a few minutes
[07:47] <evilGUI> _newbie4: seems that way, for now atleast.
[07:47] <MaGicMaX1> Surlent777: i know how to get to the keyboard shortcutts and create one, but under "Command" i guess i need to type the destination to the program, u know how i get that?
[07:47] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: eventually :) my via machine's network card not being recognised under command line minimal install
[07:47] <valdur55> ok! :) I go eating
[07:47] <Surlent777> MaGicMaX1: "whereis gnome-system-monitor"
[07:47] <civpro>  Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running
[07:47] <civpro>          kernel.  Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files
[07:47] <civpro>          for your kernel and that they are properly configured; on Red Hat
[07:47] <civpro>          Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' or
[07:47] <civpro>          'kernel-devel' RPM installed.  If you know the correct kernel source
[07:47] <civpro>          files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the
[07:47] <FloodBot3> civpro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: alternate or live CD?
[07:47] <bullgard4> How to switch off avahi?
[07:48] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: you can find it in Main Menu but yeah it's just gnome-system-monitor
[07:48] <Kareeser> bullgard4: /etc/init.d/avahi<tab> stop
[07:48] <civpro> error message im getting from the nvidia site
[07:48] <civpro> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168462/
[07:48] <civpro> why is this shit so hard
[07:48] <bullgard4> Kareeser: Thank you.
[07:49] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: minimal cd via usb
[07:49] <poet> if I'm installing for a multiboot system and am using a different bootloader for the harddisk, I should install grub on the boot partition right?
[07:49] <Kareeser> civpro: it really shouldn't be... ergh
[07:49] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: or rather the install process copied to a usb
[07:49] <civpro> i mean crap, its a popular video card
[07:49] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: oh... right... ><
[07:49] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: that means all you have at your disposal is a busybox shell. scary stuff.
[07:49] <doc|laptop> :)
[07:49] <civpro> kareeser, i have literally spent 11 hrs on trying to get an os installed on this computer
[07:49] <civpro> well i should say a linux os
[07:49] <civpro> windows is no issue
[07:50] <Kareeser> civpro: that's really unfortunate :(
[07:50] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: there's a command line minimal install thing which should be usable enough, but like I said, no network support to complete installation :/
[07:50] <civpro> heh, your telling me :)
[07:50] <Kareeser> civpro: we can try our best, but of course, we all have our own obligations to attend to. If you'd like better service, please give ubuntuforums.org a change!
[07:50] <Kareeser> chance*
[07:50] <Kareeser> slower paced, so your problem may get more attention. be sure to place it in an appropriate sub-forum
[07:51] <civpro> kareeser, no man you have been very helpful, but i am just getting frustrated, not at anyone here, but at this
[07:51] <civpro> after 11 hrs im sure you would also
[07:51] <Kareeser> indeed.
[07:51] <Kareeser> I'm in the same boat.
[07:51] <Surlent777> the only stuff I've found so far on the forums regarding the xscript is HEY GUYS DO I HIT THAT OR GNOME? "I DUNNO DUDE...MAY AS WELL HIT GNOME" so I'm a bit at a loss at the moment...probably time to move onto something else for now
[07:51] <Eevee> civpro: you should try stage1 gentoo as your primary OS
[07:51] <Kareeser> arch kicked the crap out of me, twice, today.
[07:51] <nogagplz> civpro, what made you want to change to ubuntu in the first place, just out of curiosity
[07:51] <civpro> kareeser, dude 6 hrs was dedicated on arch, lol
[07:52] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: Oh yeah, I just did that... typing "install" on the boot: line...
[07:52] <Myth`> Kareeser: I think I may have found a solution. Try to reconfigure xorg.
[07:52] <civpro> nogag, wanted to setup a base os and the virtualization on ubuntu server looked tempting
[07:52] <Kareeser> Myth`: maybe. I tried this with Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Crunchbang, and Arch
[07:52] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: thx alot, i made it CTRL+ALT+S :) works
[07:52] <Eevee> civpro: I think you need to install linux-source
[07:52] <Kareeser> Myth`: I'm thinking it's a HAL problem, but whatever, I gave up :)
[07:53] <Surlent777> hmm...oh yes, has anyone else found that the Ubuntu USB creator is entirely useless? When I boot from a disk made with it, I just get a prompt that says it can't find the bootimage or something like that, and yet UNetBootin works like a charm
[07:53] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: if you like kb shortcuts, try gnome do: http://do.davebsd.com/
[07:53] <Cryptic_Donkey>  Surlent777: I would say xwindows with the xfce de
[07:53] <Myth`> Kareeser:  I'm not certain, however, I did a soft reset after reconfiguring and everything seemed to work fine. Perhaps just the luck of the draw.
[07:53] <civpro> evee, its a driver issue, its not the verson of linux
[07:53] <civpro> atleast i do know that
[07:53] <Kareeser> Myth`: knock on wood!
[07:53] <civpro> gentoo i dont think would make a difference
[07:53] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: yep, any idea about net card problem?
[07:53] <Myth`> Kareeser: Absolutely, LOL!
[07:53] <poet> grub wont install during my installation, how can I check the logs to see what happened?
[07:53] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Donkey: XScript has nothing to do with XFCE, really. I know that it deals with deciding what to load up, though
[07:53] <poet> Im using the alternate installer
[07:54] <_newbie4> evilGUI: maks no sense.  try to reistnall tem...
[07:54] <Myth`> Kareeser: Anyway, I made linux crash 3 times on me the first time I installed ubuntu a few days ago while trying to set a static IP with the wireless TCP/IP configuration utility.
[07:54] <Eevee> civpro: haha wasn't serious; old stage1 gentoo had no installer and you got to partition, install bootloader, compile X, etc etc mostly yourself
[07:54] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: i accidently disabled the shotcut for "Launch Help browser" do u know what it was? :P
[07:54] <civpro> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.51/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.51-pkg2.run  is the driver im trying to get installed
[07:54] <Myth`> Kareeser: Anyway, have a good night. I'm off to bed. G/L
[07:54] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: Unfortunately no... sorry :(
[07:54] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: umm, f1?
[07:54] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: ok, thanks anyway
[07:54] <Kareeser> Myth`: all part of learning linux :)
[07:54] <civpro> eevee, i see, trying to make it easier on me heh
[07:55] <Cryptic_Donkey> Surlent777: I was giving you amy honest opionin  about a light weight de
[07:55] <doc|laptop> grrr, the more I try to work on this problem the more convinced I'm becoming it might be time to play with netbsd
[07:55] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: what does GnomeDO exactly?
[07:55] <valdur55> i am back
[07:55] <Eevee> civpro: and it wants the kernel source, which is the 'linux-source' package
[07:55] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: no support from the community there :P
[07:55] <Gnea> doc|laptop: so install netbsd in virtualbox ;)
[07:55] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Donkey: oh. I prefer LXDE or Fluxbox over XFCE actually, but thanks
[07:55] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: any reason you can't use a desktop live CD?
[07:55] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: much the same either way really right now :/
[07:55] <civpro> eevee, hrm?
[07:55] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: no cd drive and very very slow from usb
[07:56] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: you hit win-space and can just type the name of a program to run it.  and it learns, so now win-space f enter gets me firefox.  I don't even have an applications menu any more
[07:56] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: and that's if it even works :/
[07:56] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: aaaahhh
[07:56] <Gnea> doc|laptop: tried netboot?
[07:56] <Eevee> civpro: the error about 'unable to find kernel source tree' was yours right?  (I should really /ignore joins and parts in here)
[07:56] <doc|laptop> Gnea: hmmm, got a link?
[07:56] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: Here's some information to go out on... it's not a fix, but a suggestion to help you search
[07:56] <petrolman> Am I right that the ATI chip RV770  [Radeon HD 4850] is not yet supported by the radeonhd driver? I get display problems when changing it in the driver section of my xorg-file
[07:56] <doc|laptop> Gnea: I couldn't find a useful one
[07:56] <_newbie4> \
[07:56] <Gnea> !netboot | doc|laptop
[07:56] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: sorry, whats win-space? a button?
[07:56] <Cryptic_Donkey> Surlent777: How Hard is  it to become familair with LXDE?
[07:56] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: windows key plus spacebar
[07:57] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: I've heard of people downloading packages directly from sources... copying it onto a floppy or some other installation media, and pointing their sources.list file to use it...
[07:57] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: although the windows key is actually 'super'
[07:57] <civpro> eevee, yes
[07:57] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: I definitely do NOT remember the steps to doing that... but it can be done.
[07:57] <poet> grub wont install during my installation, how can I check the logs to see what happened? this is on the alternate installer
[07:57] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: sounds painful
[07:57] <Jeruvy> !ppa
[07:57] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Donkey: Not very hard at all...sometimes it likes to mess with my sound a little, but that was easy to figure out. It's actually surprisingly stable for self-proclaimed beta software, and it's pretty straightforward
[07:57] <Gnea> doc|laptop: most of the network bootable methods up there should still work for jaunty just fine - let us know if you have any issues with it - i find it's much, much faster than usb on my laptop - and my cd drive is hosed on it too
[07:57] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: yeeeahhhhh... for an entire ubuntu system... that's a lot of packages.
[07:57] <civpro> think mandriva might be a better option?
[07:58] <doc|laptop> Gnea: which link should I use?
[07:58] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: try Gnea's suggestion? :)
[07:58] <Eevee> civpro: so apt-get install linux-source and try the install again.  or have I missed something
[07:58] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: cool ill look into it
[07:58] <doc|laptop> Kareeser: that's my plan right now, thanks for your help
[07:58] <civpro> ill try
[07:58] <Gnea> doc|laptop: I would open them all in different tabs :) sometimes cross-referencing information works
[07:58] <Kareeser> doc|laptop: good luck!
[07:58] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Donkey: If you get it, don't forget to get the openbox configurer program thing, so you can change the window decorations and a few other things that their tool doesn't let you do
[07:58] <Kareeser> time to give this minimal ubuntu install a spin... night guys!
[07:58] <mano> hi everyone , my xchat and konversation won't accept a file from a friend it keeps saying Connection failure: connection actively refused. , he can send me stuff on amsn and pidgin ok. is there a hidden blocker or firewall on ubuntu i'm unaware of?
[07:58] <doc|laptop> Gnea: hehe, this sounds like it's going to hurt :)
[07:59] <Jeruvy> !iptables | mano
[07:59] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: i just wanted one for System Monitor cause if a program or game crashes and i cant get to dekstop (or see it) then i can get to it still to end process :P
[07:59] <Cryptic_Donkey> Surlent777: Would you recommend LXDE for a intermediate  user
[07:59] <Gnea> doc|laptop: only if you let it ;)
[07:59] <Remedy|ubuntu> hm, idk how to explain this why is it that like the screen is like.. moved over
[07:59] <doc|laptop> Gnea: hehe, thanks
[07:59] <Remedy|ubuntu> like part of the screen isnt showing, and i tried changing screen resolutions
[07:59] <Eevee> mano: ubuntu doesn't have firewall rules by default, no
[07:59] <Remedy|ubuntu> going higher only makes it worse
[07:59] <civpro> eevee, same error
[07:59] <Cryptic_Donkey> Surlent777: Please pm me the name of that con figuration utility/
[07:59] <civpro> do i need to reboot?
[07:59] <bullgard4> /var/log/daemon.log: "avahi-daemon: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.178.24. Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IP4 with address 192.168.178.24. Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for DNS." What does it mean to 'withdraw the address record for 192.168.178.24?
[07:59] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Donkey: I think that it would be possible for them to use, yes. I put it on the family laptop and it accidentally became the default for a while, and my family tended to prefer it to GNOME
[08:00] <Vatie> Remedy, have you tried using the auto adjust on your monitor? or am I mis-understanding?
[08:00] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Donkey: And they know jack about Linux
[08:00] <Remedy|ubuntu> on my monitor itself ?
[08:00] <Vatie> Ya, there is an auto adjust button on most monitors.
[08:00] <Anon> Hello. I have a quick question about gcc and the SSP...
[08:00] <Remedy|ubuntu> nah that shouldnt have anything to do with it.
[08:00] <civpro> evee, do i need to reboot?
[08:00] <Remedy|ubuntu> im running a kvm switch windows is running fine on the other pc
[08:00] <Vatie> Hmmmm, well i'm out of ideas then. Haha.
[08:00] <Remedy|ubuntu> with no screen probs
[08:00] <Remedy|ubuntu> i had this problem last time i think i had to do something with the xorg.conf but i cant remember what
[08:01] <Vatie> Ah, I see, I didn't see that first part.
[08:01] <Eevee> civpro: don't think that would change anything no
[08:01] <mano> thanks Jeruvy , ubottu and eve , i go check now!
[08:01] <Eevee> civpro: what was the original problem again  :P
[08:01] <civpro> cant load gui
[08:01] <mano> !iptables
[08:01] <civpro> nvidia issue
[08:01] <Cryptic_Donkey> Surlent777: How Do,i install LXDE ona current system?
[08:02] <Remedy|ubuntu> whoa
[08:02] <Remedy|ubuntu> vatie im stupid lol
[08:02] <Vatie> ?
[08:02] <Remedy|ubuntu> the auto adjust totally worked
[08:02] <Remedy|ubuntu> lol
[08:02] <ctartamella> can anyone lend a hand with an nvidia twinview issue?  my first display works fine, but when i enable twinview my second display is highly distorted (i can make out the correct data is going there.... just distorted and rainbowish).  The same happens when i just use the secondary display by itself.
[08:02] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Donkey: Open up synaptic and search for it. You should be able to find it quite easily
[08:02] <Vatie> Haha, there ya go.
[08:02] <Anon> Does anyone know how I can disable the stack smashing protection when I compile my C programs? I have tried the -fno-stack-protector, and it still comes up with the SSP and than quits the program
[08:02] <civpro> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.51/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.51-pkg2.run is what im trying to install
[08:02] <Jeruvy> ctartamella: is it a different monitor or the same?
[08:03] <ctartamella> jeruvy: its a dell widescreen plugged into my laptops external display
[08:03] <Jeruvy> ctartamella: ah I have no clue with laptop secondaries... sorry
[08:03] <ctartamella> jeruvy: could it be a modeline issue that would distort it?
[08:04] <valdur55> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] (rev a3)  How find drivers?
[08:04] <Remedy|ubuntu> blah obviously i cant go any higher than 1024x768
[08:04] <reuben> yo anybudy there
[08:04] <nmvictor> reuben:here we are
[08:04] <Surlent777> reuben: Only 1355 people
[08:04] <reuben> oh...
[08:04] <Anon> LoL.
[08:04] <reuben> hah
[08:05] <reuben> hey i gota  prob
[08:05] <civpro> no, no-one is here
[08:05] <civpro> but if you leave a message at the tone
[08:05] <Surlent777> reuben: Don't ask to ask, etc. etc.
[08:05] <civpro> someone will be right with you
[08:05] <civpro> BEEEP
[08:05] <Anon> Still curious on the gcc -fno-stack-protector...Is there a way I can disable this upon compilation of my C and C++ programs to check for buffer overflow vulenrabilities?
[08:05] <Anon> vulnerabilities**
[08:05] <nmvictor> civpro:thats funny,hope reuben gets the point
[08:05] <reuben> i just installed ubuntu but my wireless card wont work, its a Broadcom 802.11b/g. any tips on how to install sum drivers?
[08:05] <civpro> heh
[08:05] <ctartamella> Anon: you might be better off in a C room.....
[08:06] <Anon> Indeed.
[08:06] <Anon> Any suggestions?
[08:06] <Eevee> Anon: isn't there also a stack-protector-all?  might need to turn that off?
[08:06] <Surlent777> reuben: Sacrifice a virgin on the full moon of the sixth month while singing the Tetris theme
[08:06] <MaGicMaX1> WoW is running faster in Ubuntu then it did in Vista
[08:06] <MaGicMaX1> strange
[08:06] <ctartamella> reuben: my broadcom worked out of the box once i installed the restricted drivers....  go to hardware drivers  under administration
[08:06] <Vatie> Tetris actually has a theme? I always played with the sound off...
[08:06] <Surlent777> Vatie: It has a few actually
[08:07] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: huh, same graphics settings?
[08:07] <Anon> There is, but I also read that the -fno-stack-protector disables it momentarily for compilation
[08:07] <Surlent777> Vatie: The most famous is, I think, the one that plays by default in say, Tetris & Dr. Mario
[08:07] <Eevee> Vatie: the theme is half the experience!
[08:07] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: yes, actually AA is 1x i had it off in windows
[08:07] <Vatie> Pretty sure I have to go play it with the sound actually on.
[08:07] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: that's a bit odd unless vista was really bogged down with services etc
[08:08] <ctartamella> eevee: well, it IS vista
[08:08] <Eevee> ctartamella: touché
[08:08] <Surlent777> Vatie: And if you look on YouTube for "battle with kary subbed" you can find a killer hard rock version of it
[08:08] <KingKimi> any action game in synpantic ??????
[08:08] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: i expected it would be the other way around
[08:08] <ctartamella> eevee: although windows 7 looks like it could actually compete
[08:08] <Surlent777> KingKimi: Abuse
[08:08] <KingKimi> Surlent777, ok
[08:08] <KingKimi> thnx
[08:08] <Surlent777> np
[08:08] <Glowball> I can't reduce the brightness of my screen when on battery power
[08:09] <Eevee> ctartamella: 7 looks more polished, but it isn't massively quicker from what I've heard and most of the changes seem to be ui
[08:09] <Glowball> Well, actually, I just can't, not even when I do it manually.
[08:09] <civpro> so anyone else have any ideas, on my screwed up issue that has taken my whole saturday? 12 hrs to be exact?
[08:09] <reuben> kool i did that but its still not responsive, ctart......any back up plans?
[08:09] <Glowball> (With keyboard shortcut keys)
[08:09] <Vatie> Surlent: Ok, so I HAVE heard this theme before. I didn't totally miss out on childhood, just forgot it.
[08:09] <KingKimi> Surlent777, whats the story of it ? :P
[08:09] <Gnea> civpro: if I knew what your problem was, then perhaps...
[08:09] <Surlent777> KingKimi: OH NOES ALIEMS KILL TEHM ALL or something like that...I don't really know
[08:10] <Eevee> although speaking of 7, is there an alternative window list gnome-panel applet?
[08:10] <reuben> ciao tonino
[08:10] <Surlent777> Vatie: Awesome. Find that hard rock version if you haven't yet, it rules
[08:10] <KingKimi> Surlent777, ok
[08:10] <Eevee> civpro: besides aptitude reinstall nvidia-glx-180 and sprinkling some fairy dust..  not really
[08:10] <civpro> gnea, nvidia 8500, no gui, to put it simply
[08:10] <reuben> parlate italiano tonino?
[08:10] <Gnea> civpro: is the monitor connected directly or through a kvm?
[08:10] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: i didnt expect wine would be this good, hmm maybe i shoulda made the Ubuntu partition bigger then 50GB lol
[08:11] <civpro> gnea, directly, vga, its a 51in lcd tv
[08:11] <Surlent777> MaGicMaX1: Ever gotten Fable to work with it?
[08:11] <Gnea> civpro: k. are you booted into it now?
[08:12] <civpro> ssh'd
[08:12] <MaGicMaX1> Surlent777: no just WoW so far
[08:12] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: well it's been under development since the dawn of time; it's come a long way.  still kinda hit-or-miss though; I know Left 4 Dead still runs sluggishly, and even a few non-3d apps like Acrobat don't want to work
[08:12] <civpro> tv is downstairs
[08:12] <nogagplz> MaGicMaX1, ubuntu is not about wine. use ubuntu for ubuntu, and don't score it based on wine
[08:12] <Gnea> civpro: can you see the display from where you're at?
[08:12] <Surlent777> Eevee: I've noticed that Project64 is far better under Wine than XP, which blows me away
[08:12] <civpro> gnea, im ssh'd into it
[08:12] <civpro> if i walk downstairs i can see it
[08:13] <Gnea> civpro: can you be looking at the lcd tv while you are ssh'd into it and typing into the ssh session?
[08:13] <KingKimi> why does anything in wine looks "ugly" ????
[08:13] <MaGicMaX1> nogagplz: ive used Ubuntu for a year now without wine, i would just like to be able to use Ubuntu more, eventually take windows right off if possible... if wine helps me get to that point so be it
[08:13] <Cryptic_Bat> Whe in installed lxde it kill gnome network manager which killed my wireles and ethernet connections
[08:13] <Surlent777> King Mimi: Google "Tombuntu Wine Ugly Stick"
[08:13] <Leonheart> How bad jaunty?
[08:13] <civpro> i can type into the ssh, but i cant physically view it where im at
[08:13] <civpro> not sure if that was what your getting to or not
[08:14] <smr904> hello - another question - how do I remove the central Applets pane from Amarok 2?? I am on a ubuntu 9.04 mashine
[08:14] <Leonheart> !Jaunty
[08:14] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: but yeah wine is still just very advanced duct tape.  would be preferable to get more native linux apps.  buy linux releases of games if they interest you at all, etc
[08:14] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Bat: Weird. My internet always works regardless of my environment
[08:14] <Gnea> civpro: well, it'd really be easier to diagnose if you were - are you on a wired or wireless connection?
[08:14] <civpro> another words, this computer, i have a putty window opened up where i can send commands
[08:14] <civpro> wired
[08:14] <Gnea> yeah, i gathered that much
[08:14] <civpro> gnea, i can run downstairs to see, but then i cant type into mirc
[08:15] <reuben> heyi got a prob with my broadcom 802.11a/b/g wireless card cuz ubuntu wont use it
[08:15] <reuben> any suggestions?
[08:15] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: most games i like are not for linux
[08:15] <Gnea> civpro: are you familiar with the irc program called irssi?
[08:15] <attis84>  /join #heapkeeper
[08:15] <Cryptic_Bat> It the broard com drivers I think because i also have no eth1 which was my bcm 4312 wifi card
[08:15] <civpro> gnea, is it a gui interface?
[08:15] <civpro> cause it wont load if so atm
[08:15] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Bat: I'm sorry, my own network is tenuous enough...I'm afraid I don't quite know how it all works
[08:15] <Gnea> civpro: nope, it's text-only, you could use it on the console on the tv...
[08:16] <civpro> ok
[08:16] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: yeah but it helps to show that there's a waiting linux customer base.  like I waited to buy world of goo for linux rather than getting it on the wii
[08:16] <attis84>  /join #heapkeeper
[08:16] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: frankly i dont game that much anymore, thats why ive spent more and more time on Ubuntu, just figured i would try this "wine" thing heh
[08:16] <civpro> let me try to set it up here then run downstairs once its running
[08:16] <attis84> sorry
[08:16] <civpro> but no im not familiar iwth it
[08:16] <Gnea> civpro: alright
[08:16] <Gnea> !irssi
[08:16] <civpro> k its installed
[08:17] <civpro> now what?
[08:17] <Eevee> civpro: /help is very thorough, alt+num or esc,num (or arrows) switches windows, other than that irc commands work the same
[08:17] <Surlent777> Cryptic_Bat: I think LXDE may have its own network manager...look around in Synaptic a bit
[08:17] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: i would jump all over a great linux game... i just dont see many
[08:17] <Gnea> civpro: if you go downstairs, can you ctrl-alt-f1 and get a login prompt and login to the console that way?
[08:17] <Surlent777> MaGicMaX1: Doom 3 =)
[08:17] <rajeshsr> hi, i have installed ubuntu in my system. It seems to be automounting all my partitions to /media. But it seems not be using mount! I want it to be mounted to some other mount point, what am I to do?
[08:17] <Leonheart> Wine dont support themes/visual style XD
[08:17] <Surlent777> Leonheart: That's a lie
[08:18] <Surlent777> You just need an msthemes file
[08:18] <Eevee> MaGicMaX1: yeah, bit of a catch-22.  indie devs seem to be increasingly inclined to release on linux though
[08:18] <MaGicMaX1> Eevee: the only other app for windows that keeps me in windows is AutoCAD
[08:18] <civpro> gnea, there is no gui so i dont need to press anything
[08:18] <civpro> it fails to load
[08:18] <Surlent777> MaGicMaX1: What's AutoCAD?
[08:18] <sacarlson> ﻿rajeshsr:  maybe just symbolic link it to where you want it to be.
[08:19] <rajeshsr> sacarlson: ha, thats cool.But i wanna know what program and config files ubuntu uses for this purpose..
[08:19] <MaGicMaX1> Surlent777: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoCAD
[08:19] <Surlent777> ok, thanks
[08:19] <Gnea> civpro: okay - let's be clear about something: when the GUI fails to load, the 'GUI' fails to load, but the kernel and the userspace itself should actually be running.  The GUI is running on tty7, or ctrl-alt-f7.  by switching to the standard console login, it's possible to interact with the system in the standard, legacy mode that linux is well-known for.
[08:20] <root> testing
[08:20] <Leonheart> Surlent777: are you sure? Wht files / dll i need to copy?
[08:20] <root> ok im in
[08:20] <root> let me go downstairs
[08:20] <Gnea> civpro: you've already proven that the userspace is running properly by ssh'ing into the system.
[08:20] <Gnea> ah
[08:20] <ubuntuforlife> hello everyone i have a problem to login into ubuntu 8.04:it says kinit: No resume image .can somebody help me??
[08:20] <Gnea> Guest64772: nice job :)
[08:20] <Guest64772> ill close out this session
[08:20] <Surlent777> Leonheart: Dead certain. Find an mstheme file, and open it in Wine config
[08:21] <MaGicMaX1> we can donate for Ubuntu right?
[08:21] <Surlent777> Leonheart: I believe XP has one called Luna; search for that for a start
[08:21] <civpro> heading downstairs
[08:21] <Gnea> !donate | MaGicMaX1
[08:21] <Surlent777> Leonheart: Or google "Tombuntu Wine Ugly Stick" and try the Clearlooks theme he links to
[08:22] <MaGicMaX1> thx ubottu lol
[08:22] <eNHASA> Howdy #ubuntu! I'm looking for a good piece of voice-recognition software to run in Intrepid. Anyone have any suggestions?
[08:22] <MaGicMaX1> i think i just might donate $20 :P
[08:22] <Surlent777> Leonheart: And if that's the page that says that theming is too slow, that is fixed now, as far as I know
[08:22] <Surlent777> that was random
[08:22] <ubuntuforlife> hello everyone i have a problem to login into ubuntu 8.04:it says kinit: No resume image .can somebody help me??
[08:23] <Leonheart> Surlent777: thanks
[08:23] <Surlent777> np
[08:23] <joemac> Heya folks, can someone help me to edit my grub menu please
[08:23] <Surlent777> ok, time for DBZ and bed. Later d99ds and d33ds
[08:23] <bullgard4> /var/log/daemon.log: "avahi-daemon: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.178.24. Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IP4 with address 192.168.178.24. Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for DNS." What does it mean to 'withdraw the address record for 192.168.178.24?
[08:23] <linutic> any Filipinos here?
[08:23] <Eevee> joemac: what about it
[08:24] <MaGicMaX1> my wonderful wife is filipino
[08:24] <joemac> Eevee: I use all sata HDDs and ubuntu really doesn't seem to like that
[08:24] <linutic> hehehe..I mean, in this room :)
[08:24] <joemac> Eevee:  I can (have to ) edit the grub entry at boot time (from ro quiet splash to all_generic_ide) and I can boot up that way, however, I have edited it with gedit, and I can't get it to boot. I get a kernel panic
[08:24] <linutic> but I'm glad you've married a good Filipina
[08:24] <MaGicMaX1> joemac: i use SATA HDDs too, never had a problem
[08:24] <ubuntuforlife> hello everyone i have a problem to login into ubuntu 8.04:it says kinit: No resume image .can somebody help me plz??
[08:25] <joemac> MaGicMaX1: this is my second mobo where I have to edit grub to get a boot
[08:25] <Cryptic_Bat> I was able to restore mu y network connection by using a ubuntu cd and reinstalling  network manager and networkmanager-gnome
[08:25] <mib_ytqzfiqg> anyone knows how I can connect from ubuntu to www.radio3net.ro??
[08:25] <qa321qa123>  Everybody is good!
[08:25] <Gnea> ubuntuforlife: that's not a problem, it's working fine
[08:25] <civpro-irssi> ok im here
[08:25] <Gnea> civpro-irssi: cool
[08:26] <MaGicMaX1> joemac: strange, i would say it must be the mobo... i dunno i have a Intel P45 Asus P5Q
[08:26] <user__> mib_ytqzfiqg: what do you mean by "connect"?
[08:26] <civpro-irssi> how do i switch between screens?
[08:26] <qa321qa123>  What is everybody doing?
[08:26] <mib_ytqzfiqg> sa intru pe site
[08:26] <Gnea> civpro-irssi: not sure how familiar with the console you are - but if you press alt-F# (1 thru 6) can login to the different terminals and do different things at once
[08:26] <Eevee> joemac: yeah I have all sata and no problems..  not sure why the same edit wouldn't work
[08:26] <MaGicMaX1> civpro CRTL+ALT+Arrow keys
[08:26] <Gnea> !ubuntu | qa321qa123
[08:27] <Gnea> MaGicMaX1: don't need the ctrl
[08:27] <joemac> MaGicMaX1: I have had it going and I decided to update the menu.lst at the last update, and noe it won't boot automatically
[08:27] <civpro-irssi> gnea, im ok but not a ton
[08:27] <qa321qa123>  What?
[08:27] <MaGicMaX1> Gnea: oh really? cause i do lol
[08:27] <Vatie> civpro: Or you could use screen if you want to do it all in one terminal.
[08:27] <joemac> Eevee: Can I paste my grub menu at pastebin.ca?
[08:27] <Gnea> MaGicMaX1: i know it works, but it's silly once you're already in console :) ctrl is just needed when switching out of X
[08:27] <ubuntuforlife> Gnea: When i start my ubuntu (8.04 LTS), there are no problems but after STARTING UP .....in a black screen, i ve got this: kinit : name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/f8/..........) = sda5 (8.5)
[08:27] <ubuntuforlife>     kinit : No resume image, doing  normal boot.....
[08:27] <civpro-irssi> vatie, so just sudo screen start?
[08:28] <user__> mib_ytqzfiqg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Channels : Localized channels
[08:28] <Leonheart> Someone have tested jaunty x64 with nvidia 9100M G driver?
[08:28] <Gnea> civpro-irssi: screen should actually be run as a regular user
[08:28] <qa321qa123>  How to use mac the skin?
[08:28] <joemac> MaGicMaX1: Eevee http://pastebin.ca/1418076
[08:28] <Gnea> civpro-irssi: as should irc, now that you mention it..
[08:28] <civpro-irssi> screen start
[08:28] <civpro-irssi> ok
[08:28] <civpro-irssi> let me exit
[08:28] <Eevee> civpro-irssi: just screen.  but with 6 terminals you don't really need it
[08:28] <Remedy|ubuntu> got another question :/ in the display settings it dont have an option 1024x768.. i know the monitor will support 1280x960 anyway to edit to xorg.conf to fix? Virtual 1280 960?
[08:28] <MaGicMaX1> joemac: strange.. im new to Ubuntu myself i cant really help :P
[08:28] <sriramoman> hey google spreadsheets doesnt seem to work at all in ubuntu 9.04 with firefox browser:(
[08:29] <qcjn> sudo apt-get purge mysql says can't find mysql  <--tried this don't work ??
[08:29] <Gnea> Eevee: eh, he'll be sshing in again later, might as well
[08:29] <Cryptic_Donkey> How do iget lxde to play nicedly with my wireless card
[08:29] <Vatie> civpro: screen [command] or screen -t [title of new terminal]
[08:29] <Eevee> Gnea: yeah but screen is a bit weird to get used to
[08:29] <Vatie> Doh, he quit.
[08:30] <qa321qa123> What is ubuntu?
[08:30] <Gnea> Eevee: clearly he's not afraid to get his feet wet :)
[08:30] <Eevee> qa321qa123: an operating system?
[08:30] <Gnea> qa321qa123: http://www.ubuntu.com will explain
[08:30] <user__> qa321qa123: please stop it, you are wasting outhers people time
[08:30] <civpro-trying_ag> ok
[08:30] <Vatie> Welcome back
[08:30] <civpro-trying_ag> well i didnt figure out the screen thing, but im here
[08:30] <Barbarella> qcjn:dpkg --purge
[08:30] <qa321qa123> Oh.
[08:30] <Gnea> user__: please don't
[08:30] <Vatie> civpro: screen [command] or screen -t [title of new terminal]
[08:31] <civpro-trying_ag> oh ok
[08:31] <Cryptic_Donkey> How dO i join a wireless nerwork  in lxde/
[08:31] <Eevee> joemac: so what happens if you boot with just ro quiet splash anyway
[08:31] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: no worries, we can worry about screen later :) let's get X working
[08:31] <ubuntuforlife> When i start my ubuntu (8.04 LTS), there are no problems but after STARTING UP .....in a black screen, i ve got this: kinit : name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/f8/..........) = sda5 (8.5) kinit : No resume image, doing  normal boot..... Can somebody help me plz?
[08:31] <user__> Gnea: ok, i do another technical switch on my side then, thanks
[08:31] <civpro-trying_ag> so like screen irssi start
[08:31] <qcjn> Barbarella: whats this for
[08:31] <civpro-trying_ag> gnea, sounds good
[08:31] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: don't need start; it's not a service, just a program
[08:31] <joemac> Eevee:I get kernell panic and no boot
[08:31] <Vatie> Ya, it's a useful tool, but i'de play with it later if you need X working.
[08:31] <civpro-trying_ag> eevee, ok
[08:32] <sonalisagar> Hello everyone
[08:32] <joemac> Eevee:  I have edited the 1st and 3rd entry's (not the recovery one)to say all_generic_ide instead of ro quiet splash. When I edit it at booting, I have to boot off the third entry.
[08:32] <qa321qa123> I'm Chinese.What about yous?
[08:32] <Barbarella> qcjn:you want to remove mysql don't you?
[08:32] <qcjn> yes
[08:32] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: but not necessary now, it just makes moving across terminals easy
[08:32] <qcjn> Barbarella: yes
[08:32] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: we'll keep it simple - if you alt-f2 and login to there, type X and press enter - if it's working right, you should get a grey screen with a 'X' cursor - ctrl-alt-backspace will end it
[08:33] <civpro-trying_ag> ok ill try that
[08:33] <qa321qa123> Ubuntu?Xubuntu?Kubuntu???
[08:33] <roadmap> All three
[08:33] <ludva> yo
[08:33] <ubuntuforlife> When i start my ubuntu (8.04 LTS), there are no problems but after STARTING UP .....in a black screen, i ve got this: kinit : name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/f8/..........) = sda5 (8.5) kinit : No resume image, doing  normal boot..... Can somebody help me plz?
[08:33] <Barbarella> qcjn:do you want to remove the client or the server?
[08:33] <civpro-trying_ag> ok its not working
[08:33] <Gnea> qa321qa123: and more...
[08:33] <civpro-trying_ag> i tried just x correct?
[08:33] <qcjn> Barbarella: everything
[08:33] <roadmap> qa321qa123:  Edubuntu, Ubuntu Studio
[08:33] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: yeah, uppercase X
[08:34] <civpro-trying_ag> oh didnt do that
[08:34] <civpro-trying_ag> 1 sec
[08:34] <roadmap> qa321qa123: Qimo (Childs Linux based on ubuntu), Backtrack 4 (Security Distro now built on debian/using ubuntu repositories)
[08:34] <Barbarella> qcjn:what does dpkg -l |grep mysql give you?
[08:34] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: the thing to remember with unix is this: everything is case-sensitive
[08:34] <Eevee> joemac: urgh, sorry, at a loss
[08:34] <civpro-trying_ag> fatal screen error, no screens found
[08:34] <Gnea> aah
[08:34] <civpro-trying_ag> and it wrote a log
[08:34] <rajeshsr> Can anyone tell me what config file ubuntu uses for automounting. It seems to be mounted on /media. I wanna make it mount somewhere else..
[08:34] <Barbarella> qcjn:mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common etc...?
[08:35] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: try this command then:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:35] <Eevee> rajeshsr: you want *everything* to mount somewhere else?
[08:35] <civpro-trying_ag> this screen is at 700x400 if that helps
[08:35] <Vatie> rajesher: fstab?
[08:35] <joemac> evvcool, I have tried the 'grub' channel, but I think they are all asleep
[08:35] <Slart> rajeshsr: afaik automounting only puts stuff in /media
[08:35] <qa321qa123> Oh,thank.I'm Chinese.My English is very poor.
[08:35] <roadmap> Doesnt Ubuntu use hal for automounting?
[08:35] <ubuntuforlife> When i start my ubuntu (8.04 LTS), there are no problems but after STARTING UP .....in a black screen, i ve got this: kinit : name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/f8/..........) = sda5 (8.5) kinit : No resume image, doing  normal boot..... Can somebody help me plz?
[08:35] <joemac> Eevee: I have tried the 'grub' channel, but I think they are all asleep
[08:35] <Slart> rajeshsr: unless you specifically mention it in /etc/fstab
[08:35] <Raf> hi
[08:35] <Eevee> joemac: ah, I envy them
[08:35] <roadmap> qa321qa123: I would recommend Ubuntu.
[08:35] <civpro-trying_ag> can you msg me it, this is scrolling way to fast
[08:35] <lucax> how do i turn off pc speaker on jaunty??
[08:35] <Raf> can someone help me find how to enable scrolling using the trackpoint on a Lenovo ThinkPad T61, with Ubuntu 8.10
[08:36] <Gnea> qa321qa123: we have support channels that might make it easier, if you're interested in trying Ubuntu:  #ubuntu-cn, #ubuntu-hk and #ubuntu-tw
[08:36] <nogagplz> qa321qa123, I would recommend kubuntu, or lxbuntu
[08:36] <rajeshsr> Slart: Well, if i specify in /etc/fstab it seems not be available in Places menu! It makes me think that it is using some other program for doing the whole process
[08:36] <roadmap> nogagplz: for an older machine Kubuntu may be out of the question (KDE4 can get sluggish), Xubuntu is nice.
[08:36] <Slart> lucax: try doing a "sudo rmmod pcspkr"
[08:36] <civpro-trying_ag> can you give me that command again please?
[08:36] <roadmap> If they are new to linux I would highly recommend Ubuntu.
[08:36] <joemac> Eevee: lol, thanks for  the time though, I will keep working on it. The box still goes, its just a pain editing/shnging grub at every boot.
[08:36] <qa321qa123> But my pc is 256MB Ram
[08:36] <Raf> can someone help me find how to enable scrolling using the trackpoint on a Lenovo ThinkPad T61, with Ubuntu 8.10?
[08:36] <Slart> rajeshsr: correct.. it's not the same thing
[08:36] <qcjn> Barbarella: http://qcjn.pastebin.ca/1418078
[08:36] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-sorc
[08:36] <nogagplz> roadmap, for older machines, I'd say hvl. come to think of it, for any machine, hvl! :D
[08:37] <Cryptic_Donkey> lxde is not there yet\
[08:37] <roadmap> qa321qa123: Try Ubuntu. If you are new to linux, Ubuntu would be a good start.
[08:37] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:37] <Eevee> rajeshsr: based on three seconds of research, it looks like it's gnome-mount
[08:37] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: sorry, typo
[08:37] <roadmap> nogagplz: I'd say ArchLinux, but we're not here to debate :)
[08:37] <civpro-trying_ag> i got up to reconfigure this time
[08:37] <Raf> can someone help me find how to enable scrolling using the trackpoint on a Lenovo ThinkPad T61, with Ubuntu 8.10?
[08:37] <valdur55> Yockey backend crashed. I Will install my Nvidia driver.
[08:37] <nogagplz> roadmap, true. each to their own
[08:37] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: pageup should work
[08:37] <qa321qa123> Er......
[08:37] <roadmap> qa321qa123: Are you new to linux?
[08:38] <qa321qa123> Yes.
[08:38] <Raf> scrolling
[08:38] <Raf> oops
[08:38] <civpro-trying_ag> ya just figured that out
[08:38] <Raf> can someone help me find how to enable scrolling using the trackpoint on a Lenovo ThinkPad T61, with Ubuntu 8.10?
[08:38] <roadmap> qa321qa123: Then i would recommend going with Ubuntu. It is best for getting started.
[08:38] <rajeshsr> Eevee: oh thanks!
[08:38] <Barbarella> qcjn:apt-get purge mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 php5-mysql
[08:38] <civpro-trying_ag> one ec
[08:38] <civpro-trying_ag> sec, ill type that in
[08:38] <bullgard4> /var/log/daemon.log: "avahi-daemon: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.178.24. Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IP4 with address 192.168.178.24. Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for DNS." What does it mean to 'withdraw the address record for 192.168.178.24?
[08:38] <Raf> can someone help me find how to enable scrolling using the trackpoint on a Lenovo ThinkPad T61, with Ubuntu 8.10?
[08:39] <qa321qa123> I'm using Hiweed 2.0 RC3.
[08:39] <Slart> Raf: don't spam the channel.. wait at least 15 minutes before repeating your question
[08:39] <Eevee> rajeshsr: manpage describes where settings come from if you haven't looked already
[08:39] <Raf> if you say so, Slart
[08:39] <roadmap> qa321qa123: Are you thinking about changing to Ubuntu?
[08:39] <civpro-trying_ag> xserver-sorc is not installed it says
[08:39] <Slart> Raf: not just me, channel policy... see !repeat for more info
[08:39] <Raf> !repeat
[08:39] <civpro-trying_ag> is that the right command?
[08:39] <Raf> ^o)
[08:39] <qa321qa123> I think.
[08:39] <Raf> ^_-
[08:40] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: it's xserver-xorg
[08:40] <civpro-trying_ag> oh ok
[08:40] <frybye> Raf - I seem to remember reading about some improved trackpoint features with Jaunty - not sure if applies to your problem though...
[08:40] <civpro-trying_ag> brb
[08:40] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: right, i typo'd
[08:40] <Raf> thanks frybye
[08:40] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: xserver-xorg <- correct
[08:40] <Raf> but i like ibex
[08:40] <roadmap> qa321qa123: If you are considering changing your operating system to Ubuntu, I would recommend going with the Ubuntu distrobution. It is a good starting point for people who are new to Ubuntu.
[08:40] <qcjn> Barbarella: thanks, its done
[08:40] <pronoy> is there an offline dictionary application available ??????
[08:40] <civpro-trying_ag> ok done
[08:41] <fornix> !patience
[08:41] <Barbarella> qcjn:ok
[08:41] <roadmap> distrobution = distribution :(
[08:41] <civpro-trying_ag> now X
[08:41] <Gnea> yes
[08:41] <civpro-trying_ag> or do i need to restart?
[08:41] <pronoy> one which doesn't connect to the net everytime you search for a word ?
[08:41] <civpro-trying_ag> ok
[08:41] <qa321qa123> Thank you.
[08:41] <Gnea> nope, restart not required :)
[08:41] <roadmap> qa321qa123: You are welcome :). Enjoy Ubuntu if you decide to use it!
[08:41] <civpro-trying_ag> nope same error
[08:41] <Eevee> Raf: I seem to recall there's a touchpad tab in Mouse?
[08:41] <Gnea> qa321qa123: wow, never heard of hiweed. what package management system does it yet?
[08:42] <Gnea> qa321qa123: s/yet/use/g
[08:42] <civpro-trying_ag> there is alot more too it also
[08:42] <civpro-trying_ag> driver not loading, ect.....
[08:42] <pronoy> is there an offline dictionary application available ?????? one which doesn't connect to the net everytime you search for a word ?
[08:42] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: hrm, you should pastebin that... sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[08:42] <civpro-trying_ag> i got pastebinit install
[08:42] <civpro-trying_ag> how do i run it for the log?
[08:42] <Slart> Gnea: being a ubuntu-based distro I suppost it uses apt... just like daddy =)
[08:42] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: and then:  X > X.log    cat X.log | pastebinit
[08:42] <Gnea> cool
[08:42] <qa321qa123> You can see it
[08:43] <qa321qa123> http://www.hiweed.com
[08:43] <Gnea> Slart: ha, well i found the website but it's in chinese - i can't read that :)
[08:43] <roadmap> Gnea: Looks like a modified Gnome.
[08:43] <Slart> Gnea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiweed
[08:43] <qa321qa123> This is a good OS.
[08:43] <roadmap> Default User Interface: Gnome
[08:43] <roadmap> I was right :)
[08:43] <Gnea> oh
[08:43] <Gnea> that's awesome
[08:43] <roadmap> Gnea: http://linux.hiweed.com/node/1364
[08:43] <Gnea> so basically he's already using Ubuntu :)
[08:43] <roadmap> im (attempting) to read the page.
[08:44] <joemac> Any grub experts in here?
[08:44] <Gnea> !grub
[08:44] <roadmap> It kind of is Ubuntu for the Chinese.
[08:44] <civpro-trying_ag> unrecognized option cat
[08:44] <Slart> joemac: lots.. but they are shy.. you'll have to ask your question if you want to lure them out in the open
[08:44] <roadmap> It has Compiz enabled by default from the looks of things.
[08:44] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: those were separate commands
[08:45] <civpro-trying_ag> oh ok
[08:45] <roadmap> joemac: Depending on the problem, I'll take a stab at it.
[08:45] <civpro-trying_ag> 1 sec
[08:45] <pronoy> is there an offline dictionary application available ?????? one which doesn't connect to the net everytime you search for a word ?
[08:45] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: like this:  shawnmst@system:~/$ cat X.log | pastebinit
[08:45] <joemac> Slart: cheers, I have been for a while, I cant boot without editing my grub from ro quiet splash to all_generic_ide
[08:45] <Slart> pronoy: I doubt it... spellcheckers, yes.. dictionaries..none that I know of
[08:46] <joemac> roadmap: cheers, I have been for a while, I cant boot without editing my grub from ro quiet splash to all_generic_ide
[08:46] <qa321qa123> What is KDE?
[08:46] <Gnea> !kde | qa321qa123
[08:46] <nedE> help
[08:46] <roadmap> qa321qa123: KDE runs on Kubuntu. Its a Window Manager like Gnome.
[08:46] <roadmap> joemac: hm. this problem sounds fun.
[08:46] <Slart> joemac: ehm.. ok.. is that a problem?
[08:46] <fornix> pronoy: you could install the dict server
[08:46] <roadmap> joemac: Do you need ro quiet splash? Like absolutely have to have it?
[08:47] <qa321qa123> Oh!But it is slow.
[08:47] <nogagplz> roadmap, desktop environment like gnome*. kwin is the window manager
[08:47] <pronoy> fornix.....thanks
[08:47] <Gnea> qa321qa123: I agree. that's why I use E17
[08:47] <civpro-trying_ag> www.pastebin.com/f1321aada
[08:47] <civpro-trying_ag> there we go
[08:47] <civpro-trying_ag> heh
[08:47] <FloodBot3> civpro-trying_ag: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <roadmap> nogagplz: From the looks of it he's using an online translator for what I'm saying. I'm trying to simplify things as much as possible.
[08:47] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: gah, are you sure you got the id right?
[08:48] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: link broken!
[08:48] <qa321qa123> E17??What's this?
[08:48] <civpro-trying_ag> just pasted the log it wrote to, for some reason that command didnt work
[08:48] <civpro-trying_ag> let me make sure
[08:48] <roadmap> qa321qa123: KDE4 can be slow on older computers. It may be better to use something like Gnome (which Ubuntu uses) or XFCE (which XUbuntu uses)
[08:48] <Gnea> !e17 | qa321qa123
[08:48] <joemac> roadmap: Slart: ro quiet splash doesn't work and I have no interest in it. I have had to edit it out with all_generic_ide, but I won't boot of the first enrty(default) and I have to go to the 3rd one on the list to boot
[08:48] <Gnea> qa321qa123: www.enlightenment.org
[08:48] <civpro-trying_ag> f1321aada
[08:48] <Gnea> ok
[08:48] <qa321qa123> Ok!
[08:48] <roadmap> joemac: This sounds like a problem with your GRUB configuration file, care to pastebin it or something?
[08:48] <Eevee> oh, wfm without the www: http://pastebin.com/f1321aada
[08:49] <civpro-trying_ag> so http://pastebin.com/f1321aada
[08:49] <civpro-trying_ag> im typing it in from screen to screen
[08:49] <joemac> roadmap: http://pastebin.ca/index.php
[08:49] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: are you sure those are 1's and not l's? or maybe one's an l? (lowwercase L)
[08:49] <civpro-trying_ag> was alot easier doing this upstairs but whatever works
[08:49] <roadmap> joemac: wrong link? ;) or was that a self link?
[08:49] <Slart> joemac: wrong link
[08:49] <joemac> roadmap: this is after i have changed the 1st and 3rd entys
[08:49] <sirMajid> hi how can I play midi in ubuntu
[08:49] <civpro-trying_ag> let me see
[08:49] <Eevee> Gnea: http://pastebin.com/f1321aada  (and pastebin.com ids are hex so can't be an l)
[08:49] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: hrm, you should get the mouse to work....
[08:49] <Slart> sirMajid: have a look at timidity
[08:49] <Gnea> Eevee: good point
[08:49] <joemac> roadmap: sorry http://pastebin.ca/1418076
[08:49] <Slart> !info timidity | sirMajid
[08:50] <civpro-trying_ag> looks like 1's to me
[08:50] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: oh this is diffeernt from what there was before
[08:50] <Gnea> oh, pfft, without the http:// it puts the www. in there - got it
[08:50] <Eevee> hm
[08:50] <roadmap> joemac: Why so many entries?
[08:50] <roadmap> Different kernels from the looks of it I guess.
[08:50] <civpro-trying_ag> ya its a mess
[08:50] <civpro-trying_ag> there is alot in the log file
[08:51] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: check this out:  sudo apt-get install gpm
[08:51] <SydneyGuy> Hi all
[08:51] <civpro-trying_ag> ok
[08:51] <Eevee> roadmap: well ubuntu IS a bit of a litterbug with its kernels
[08:51] <sirMajid> Slart: I'm installing it
[08:51] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: after that you can cut & paste simply by selecting the text in one terminal, then right-clicking in another
[08:51] <joemac> roadmap: I have no idea. I have had it since dapper, andhave always had issues with it, all sata Hdds and funny MOBOs
[08:51] <roadmap> Eevee: I won't deny that.
[08:51] <sirMajid> Slart: can I play midi files after installation
[08:51] <civpro-trying_ag> very nice
[08:51] <sirMajid> Slart:?
[08:51] <civpro-trying_ag> mouse works now
[08:51] <Eevee> I seem to have about a dozen installed
[08:51] <qa321qa123>  Why don't I use the wave special effect?
[08:51] <roadmap> joemac: So the top entry wont start but the third will?
[08:51] <Slart> joemac: you can't boot a live cd?
[08:51] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: ancient linux trick ;)
[08:52] <dan> hi  i am new to IRC
[08:52] <roadmap> joemac: If thats the case I see the problem
[08:52] <joemac> roadmap: yes
[08:52] <Slart> joemac: without editing the grub options?
[08:52] <civpro-trying_ag> heh, showed failed though, but whatever works
[08:52] <joemac> Slart: I have, and I can boot, but haveto change off the default entry every time
[08:52] <roadmap> joemac: look at the "Kernel" line for the third entry with the first entry.
[08:52] <qa321qa123>  Why don't I use the wave special effect?
[08:52] <Slart> sirMajid: you should be able to.. I'm not sure if timidity includes a player.. it's really a midi synthesizer
[08:52] <roadmap> joemac: your kernel line is wrong
[08:53] <roadmap> From the looks of it
[08:53] <civpro-trying_ag> ok so now what?
[08:53] <civpro-trying_ag> its a mess isnt it?
[08:53] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: aptitude search nvidia-glx -- are any of those installed?  (something besides 'p' on the left)
[08:53] <Barbarella> joemac: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and set default to 2
[08:53] <civpro-trying_ag> 80
[08:53] <roadmap> or cheat and do that
[08:53] <sirMajid> Slart: what does it exactly do?
[08:53] <civpro-trying_ag> or 800 i forget
[08:53] <civpro-trying_ag> whatever the latest number is
[08:53] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: it seems so... can you pastebin the output of the lspci and dmesg commands?
[08:53] <sainorg9oz> hii i want to know if i update to ubuntu 9.04 would my files stay the same just to be sure:S
[08:53] <Eevee> 180
[08:53] <joemac> Barbarella: cool, how, or what do I add where?
[08:53] <Eevee> sainorg9oz: yeah an upgrade shouldn't touch anything but software
[08:53] <xangua> sainorg9oz: yes
[08:53] <civpro-trying_ag> ya 180
[08:53] <Slart> sirMajid: it converts the midi signals to sound.. so you don't have to rely on the soundcard for doing that
[08:54] <leaphion> has anyone compiled a rt-kernel from source? I want to update my Ubuntustudio-kernel to the latest but haven't done it before, so could you point me to some good docoument about it?
[08:54] <rajeshsr> Eevee: hi, the man pages for gnome-mount seem to be pointing to something like:/system/storage... it seems not to be existing in my system! Are "system" etc. alias to something?
[08:54] <sainorg9oz> thnx alot:-)
[08:54] <roadmap> joemac: I'd rather you do it my way but if you want to do that i can help you :)
[08:54] <sirMajid> Slart: aha! tnx
[08:54] <civpro-trying_ag> gnea, dont even know what those commands mean man
[08:54] <joemac> roadmap:  right, I am with ya
[08:54] <civpro-trying_ag> heh
[08:54] <Barbarella> joemac: on top like this, default         2
[08:54] <roadmap> joemac: top of your /boo/grub/menu.lst
[08:54] <civpro-trying_ag> i know the pastebin part :)
[08:54] <qa321qa123> See you.
[08:54] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: lspci is just that: it lists your pci bus
[08:54] <roadmap> joemac: you will see an entry that says: default          0
[08:55] <roadmap> joemac: just make it 2 and itll auto select the third option at startup
[08:55] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: dmesg dumps all the kernel messages
[08:55] <civpro-trying_ag> ok so pastebinit lspci  ?
[08:55] <Gnea> yeah
[08:55] <civpro-trying_ag> let me try
[08:55] <Eevee> rajeshsr: oh, those are keys in gconf-editor  (alt-f2 and run that)
[08:56] <civpro-trying_ag> unable to read lspci
[08:56] <civpro-trying_ag> btw, its a onboard video card
[08:56] <Gnea> try like this: lspci | pastebinit
[08:56] <civpro-trying_ag> not a pci
[08:56] <civpro-trying_ag> ok
[08:56] <Gnea> yeah, it's still part of the pci bus
[08:56] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: to recap, you started with server edition and are trying to get a GUI without installing ubuntu-desktop, right?
[08:57] <Eevee> iirc
[08:57] <roadmap> intall fluxbox!
[08:58] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: and while you're at it, see if this says if it's already installed or not:  sudo apt-get install
[08:58] <Gnea> argh!
[08:58] <civpro-trying_ag>  http://pastebin.com/f29e21633
[08:58] <civpro-trying_ag> there we go
[08:58] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[08:58] <Gnea> i just pasted a carraige return :p
[08:58] <civpro-trying_ag> eeve, let me scroll up and read
[08:58] <Eevee> Gnea: haha I've pasted tabs and accidentally pm'd things to a random person
[08:59] <Glowball> I can't change the brightness of my screen - which is quite battery-unfriendly
[08:59] <Gnea> Eevee: same haha
[08:59] <largopelo> #krakow
[08:59] <Eevee> Glowball: brightness keys don't work?
[08:59] <civpro-trying_ag> eevee yes thats correct abotu the desktop,
[08:59] <Gnea> krakow? is that like, a noise?
[08:59] <civpro-trying_ag> so just sudo apt-get install   ?
[08:59] <zhoujingrui> hi
[08:59] <Draco_1> Hi, I have problems installing ubuntu on an old laptop ( 600Mhz, 160mb of ram, no dvd, cdrom only ), I tryed the alternate install as well but it doesn't install ( says it can't find an adaguate kernel to install ), I've heard there is a version installable from USB, where can I find it? or is there another easy to use linux distribution I can try to install?
[08:59] <Vatie> Personally I thought of the Kraken when I read that.
[08:59] <civpro-trying_ag> nothing after?
[09:00] <Eevee> Glowball: right-click empty space in panel and 'add to panel', there's a brightness applet
[09:00] <Gnea> I smash a windows cd and it makes a sound like KRAKOW!!
[09:00] <Glowball> Eevee: They do, I see the settings change in the upper right corner of my screen, but the actual brightness isn't changing...
[09:00] <Eevee> civpro-trying_ag: no he corrected it a few lines later
[09:00] <civpro-trying_ag> ok ill scroll up
[09:00] <Glowball> Eevee: same thing for the brightness applet
[09:00] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: no, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[09:01] <Glowball> Eevee: It tells me it's changed, while it actually isn't
[09:01] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: i'm sorry, i'm making a lot of typos tonight
[09:01] <civpro-trying_ag> ok back
[09:01] <rajeshsr> Eevee: Seems no way to change mount point from /media!
[09:01] <Eevee> Glowball: oh, then might be a compat problem with the laptop
[09:02] <civpro-trying_ag> it was right
[09:02] <Vatie> rajeshsr: I'm fairly certain that this was already mentioned, but could you symlink it?
[09:02] <Eevee> rajeshsr: you could delete /media and replace it with a link to some other plac I suppose
[09:02] <Eevee> yeah
[09:02] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: it was already installed?
[09:02] <civpro-trying_ag> ok ill try X again now
[09:02] <civpro-trying_ag> lemme check
[09:03] <Glowball> Eevee: any hints about how to fix it? My sound wasn't working out-of-the-box either, but in the end, it does :)
[09:03] <civpro-trying_ag> not doesnt look like it was
[09:03] <rajeshsr> Eevee: Thats too much of inflexibility :) Anyway thanks!
[09:03] <civpro-trying_ag> nope*
[09:03] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: alright, then yeah, try X again
[09:03] <Eevee> rajeshsr: reading this manpage, it sounds like the /media is added by HAL rather than gnome
[09:03] <civpro-trying_ag> same thing
[09:03] <civpro-trying_ag> want a new log?
[09:03] <Gnea> sure
[09:03] <civpro-trying_ag> ok
[09:04] <Eevee> Glowball: might be a page for your laptop on help.ubuntu.com with workarounds for known problems
[09:04] <Glowball> Ok, I'll check it, thanks ;)
[09:04] <civpro-trying_ag> http://pastebin.com/f7bbb22d8
[09:04] <Eevee> Glowball: fixed all my macbook problems at least
[09:04] <Eevee> np
[09:05] <zhoujingrui> hi
[09:05] <rajeshsr> Eevee: It also seem to be talking abt reading from /etc/fstab. Thats exactly i want. I want the flexibility of /etc/fstab and also wanted it to be listed in Places menu, which i think only gnome-mount can do.
[09:05] <zhoujingrui> how to use pc man x bbs client
[09:05] <rajeshsr> Eevee: Do u see how to make it mount from /etc/fstab?
[09:06] <civpro-trying_ag> even though im running this as a base system, its important to get the drivers working because if not i believe virtualbox wont install others correctly
[09:06] <zhoujingrui> is
[09:06] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: ok, try this again:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:06] <zhoujingrui> there?
[09:06] <zhoujingrui> anybody
[09:06] <civpro-trying_ag> ok
[09:07] <bullgard4> /var/log/daemon.log: "avahi-daemon: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.178.24. Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth0.IP4 with address 192.168.178.24. Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer relevant for DNS." What does it mean to 'withdraw the address record for 192.168.178.24?
[09:07] <civpro-trying_ag> done
[09:07] <Gnea> zhoujingrui: never heard of it
[09:07] <civpro-trying_ag> same thing
[09:07] <zhoujingrui> ?
[09:07] <zhoujingrui> in ubuntu
[09:07] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: error about 'vesa'?
[09:07] <zhoujingrui> internet
[09:07] <civpro-trying_ag> want a new pastebin
[09:07] <Gnea> what?
[09:07] <Eevee> rajeshsr: oh it looks like you can add to the places menu manually by editing ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[09:07] <civpro-trying_ag> dont get to see much
[09:07] <Gnea> civpro-trying_ag: sure
[09:08] <zhoujingrui> had a PC man x bbs
[09:08] <axel_> Hello! I've some problems with netbook remix: When switching the desktop mode from "classical desktop" to "Ubuntu-Netbook-Desktop" the GNOME panels remain displayed and are layed over the "netbook interface". How to fix that?
[09:08] <Gnea> zhoujingrui: what language do you speak?
[09:09] <Gnea> zhoujingrui: you might want to ask in #ubuntu-cn
[09:09] <rajeshsr> Eevee: Thank you very much! Got it! But i would really want to know is there any plan in making gnome-mount more flexible!
[09:09] <zhoujingrui> ok
[09:10] <shawnmstout> hey its civpro, they made me identify
[09:10] <thelastquincy> where would i go for audio speaker/headphone difficulty????
[09:10] <roadmap> So many strange responses I can think of to a question like that...
[09:10] <Gnea> shawnmstout: gotcha
[09:10] <shawnmstout> and other is still in the channel upstairs
[09:10] <Eevee> rajeshsr: I can hardly speak for the gnome devs but I doubt it; changing the default root mount point is a pretty obscure thing to do.  and for all I know there's already a way to do it and I just don't know what it is
[09:11] <shawnmstout> gnea, im i fighting a downhill battle here?
[09:11] <Gnea> shawnmstout: depends on how you define 'bottom of the hill'
[09:11] <shawnmstout> definitely not simple i know that much
[09:11] <rajeshsr> Eevee: hmm! Thanks
[09:11] <shawnmstout> heh
[09:11] <Gnea> :)
[09:11] <shawnmstout> just as long as you dont give up on me :)
[09:11] <Gnea> well
[09:11] <Gnea> i do need to sleep soon
[09:11] <thadoood> HELLO MOTO !!!
[09:11] <thadoood> HELLO MOTO !!!
[09:11] <thadoood> HELLO MOTO !!!
[09:11] <khg> bro how to install exe file in
[09:12] <khg> ubuntu
[09:12] <Gnea> !caps | thadoood
[09:12] <shawnmstout> khg, wine
[09:12] <khg> how to?
[09:12] <roadmap> Eevee: Doesn't Ubuntu use HAL for automounting devices?
[09:12] <Raf> filezilla ftw
[09:12] <Gnea> !wine | khg
[09:12] <Eevee> roadmap: yes as I discovered about four minutes ago
[09:12] <thadoood> im sorry, ive been drinking and im invigorated by this forums intricate conversations pieces of shiot !
[09:12] <roadmap> Eevee: If Hal is whats autmounting the devices shouldn't he be able to change it by editing the hal configurations?
[09:12] <shawnmstout> so anymore ideas?
[09:12] <Gnea> thadoood: then please, step away from the computer and come back when you are sober.
[09:13] <roadmap> Eevee: I have some fun experience with hal. I've never played with how its setup on Ubuntu, but if he wants to change the default automount point there is a way.
[09:13] <roadmap> Assuming hal does it.
[09:13] <thadoood> i cant.... the computorrrr is calling me, i cant resist its temptation of excellence
[09:13] <shawnmstout> do you think i would be better off with mandriva, or am i going to run into the same thing
[09:13] <thadoood> speaking of wich,  when i wake up in the morning , i piss excellent
[09:13] <Eevee> roadmap: my highly detailed search (ack -a media /etc/hal) didn't find anything useful
[09:13] <thadoood> just thought i would share that
[09:13] <Gnea> thadoood: you should join #ubuntu-offtopic, they will be much more to your current style :)
[09:14] <shawnmstout> i started out with archlinux about 10am today, its not 4:13am heh
[09:14] <roadmap> Eevee: I don't think /etc/hal is the right place to look. Let me take a look at it. I may be wrong :).
[09:14] <thadoood> great idear
[09:14] <roadmap> Eevee: debian logic baffles the mind.
[09:14] <xPhilosx> Hey, Im having some issues getting my ubuntu minimal install to play sound, I have the ALSA packages installed, alsa-mixer shows that nothing is muted either (running 9.04 minimal with lxde on a tx1000)
[09:14] <Eevee> roadmap: my experience with HAL consists mainly of not needing to know it exists, so
[09:14] <roadmap> Eevee: Well you have now known for well over four minutes. Congratulations.
[09:15] <shawnmstout> i mean if there is a chance ill try mandriva, but i have a hunch im going to run into the same exact thing
[09:15] <Eevee> roadmap: well I KNEW, I just didn't NEED to  :P  clearly it is doing a good job
[09:15] <Gnea> shawnmstout: well, mandriva uses rpm's, so you might just be barking up a whole other tree then
[09:15] <Gnea> shawnmstout: let's check something else - were you able to get that other pastebin up?
[09:15] <shawnmstout> yes last one was....
[09:15] <Eevee> shawnmstout: might have better luck just installing desktop and ripping everything out
[09:15] <shawnmstout> http://pastebin.com/f11ebf0bb
[09:16] <shawnmstout> eevee, it wont install, driver issue
[09:16] <shawnmstout> well it installs but no user interface
[09:16] <shawnmstout> gui i mean
[09:16] <dent> I'm having odd behaviour on 9.04 (while my laptop worked ok on 8.10)... I suspect something in the kernel (getting random crashes/fsck complaints on boot, but memtest86, smart, badblocks claim all is ok, also 8.10 works ok)... can I get older (2.6.27-11, from 8.10) kernel into 9.04? I could build that, but if I can "force" apt somehow...
[09:16] <yaris123456789> is there any way to make wget ignore javascript & #target links ?
[09:16] <shawnmstout> so basically im left at the same exact thing
[09:16] <khg> help me:$?
[09:16] <Gnea> shawnmstout: hrm, the reconfiguration left it using the vesa driver, which definitely won't work... can you edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace the instances of 'vesa' with 'nv'?
[09:17] <jebussell> heya
[09:17] <Draco_1> (ok, I try for the third and last time )  I have problems installing ubuntu on an old laptop ( 600Mhz, 160mb of ram, no dvd, cdrom only ), I tryed the alternate install as well but it doesn't install ( says it can't find an adaguate kernel to install ), I've heard there is a version installable from USB, where can I find it? or is there another easy to use linux distribution I can try to install?
[09:17] <shawnmstout> khg, we gave you your answer
[09:17] <Gnea> shawnmstout: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:17] <marcel_> dent, did you see anything in /var/log/messages?
[09:17] <roadmap> Draco_1: Your machine may not be i686 compatible?
[09:17] <shawnmstout> yes i can do that
[09:17] <abin_> is there some pdfedit software like adobe crobat
[09:17] <shawnmstout> brb
[09:17] <Gnea> khg: install wine - check Applications menu
[09:17] <roadmap> Or does Ubuntu require i386?
[09:17] <jebussell> Which Version would i need to put on my Mac PowerBook G4
[09:17] <Draco_1> it's a celeron, i386 compatible for sure
[09:17] <dent> marcel_: nothing conclusive... when appcrashes, I see SIGSEGV logged... and sometimes filesystem complains... it seems like its slowly "rotting" when on, untill it crashes
[09:17] <Eevee> abin_: could try scribus, it can read (most) pdfs
[09:18] <khg> Gnea tolk
[09:18] <Eevee> abin_: and any app can print to pdf
[09:18] <khg> p8
[09:18] <khg> prv
[09:18] <marcel_> dent, what filesystem are you using
[09:18] <khg> private
[09:18] <dent> marcel_: tried ext2/3/4, basically the same :-(
[09:18] <roadmap> Draco_1: if you have linux (or windows) laying around download a tool called UNetBootin. You can find it on sourceforge, or in the Synaptic repositories.
[09:18] <dent> marcel_: I.e. I think it's not FS-caused
[09:18] <Gnea> khg: no, keep it in the channel - makes it easier for others to help you
[09:18] <roadmap> Draco_1: You can then take the Ubuntu ISO (or have UNetBootin download and do this for you) and put it on a USB device.
[09:18] <marcel_> dent, what architecture? i386?
[09:18] <Eevee> Draco_1: installing from USB would still be the same installer.  sure you're not trying to install the 64-bit version?
[09:19] <dent> marcel_: x86_64
[09:19] <shawnmstout> um, hrm
[09:19] <jebussell> PB G4 PPC 1.33Ghz (Manu. April 04) 17"
[09:19] <shawnmstout> no xorg.conf file in etc
[09:19] <roadmap> Draco_1: After that you can boot Ubuntu off a USB drive, in which you should be able to install from (assuming this is your problem)
[09:19] <Eevee> shawnmstout: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:19] <javyn> how would i go about setting up a simple home network where i can share printers and directories?
[09:19] <shawnmstout> wtf
[09:19] <Gnea> !pm | khg
[09:19] <javyn> prefereably something windows computers can be on too?
[09:19] <marcel_> dent, did you try boot options like iommu=false?
[09:19] <Draco_1> yes, I'm quite sure I chosed the 32bit version, thanks for the info, I will check it out
[09:19] <roadmap> Eevee: I think its architecture related. I think Ubuntu requires i686 compatibility.
[09:19] <Fzang> can someone help me with install partitioner? because, honestly, I don't get it
[09:19] <dent> marcel_: did not... will do, thanks for tip
[09:19] <roadmap> I use all kinds of linux distros so I may be spreading disinformation.
[09:19] <roadmap> If I'm wrong about that someone let me know.
[09:19] <xPhilosx> Hey, Im having some issues getting my ubuntu minimal install to play sound, I have the ALSA packages installed, alsa-mixer shows that nothing is muted either (running 9.04 minimal with lxde on a tx1000).  Anyone know of any posted fixes or ideas?  I've done quite a bit of searchig and I cant come up with anything.
[09:19] <roadmap> Otherwise its architecture related.
[09:19] <javyn> i'd really appreciate help being pointed in the right direction, even if it's a link or FAQ on home networking
[09:19] <thadoood> well i got kicked out of the other channel so im back
[09:19] <th0r> Draco_1: according to the website at least 256MB of ram is required for the alternate install
[09:19] <thadoood> dammit !
[09:20] <Eevee> roadmap: I've never read anything to that effect but I don't know that you're wrong either
[09:20] <marcel_> dent, if you use a livecd for instance with xubuntu amd64, do you have crashes?
[09:20] <fizk> Hi, are the query parameters of a SSL/HTTPS GET request exposed to the world?
[09:20] <elky> thadoood, ask support in clean language or not at all.
[09:20] <shawnmstout> no xorg.conf file man
[09:20] <thadoood> apparently thier drinking haterade at this time of morning
[09:20] <shawnmstout> i dont get it
[09:20] <dent> marcel_: also didn't try... will try
[09:20] <Fzang> how do I move the slider in the installer? I just want ubuntu installed alongside my current windows partition, not resize or anything
[09:20] <thadoood> me.... im still drinking beer
[09:20] <roadmap> Eevee: Again, It could be other distros I've used (like Arch) that require i686 and Ubuntu is more architecture friendly.
[09:20] <shawnmstout> it is /etc/xorg.conf   correct?
[09:20] <elky> thadoood, ask your support question only.
[09:21] <thadoood> elky: dont be such a nazi , gawd i was just messing with yall
[09:21] <Eevee> shawnmstout: no, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:21] <marcel_> dent, i would go for xubuntu amd64 ext4 fs, and try boot option iommu=false, i have this also
[09:21] <thadoood> geeezz loiussss
[09:21] <shawnmstout> ah
[09:21] <shawnmstout> ok
[09:21] <khg> Gnea tolk me in private
[09:21] <Eevee> shawnmstout: most stuff in /etc is in /etc/<program>/
[09:21] <dent> marcel_: odd is it looks pretty much like HDD/RAM issue, but older ubuntu works, and so do ram/hdd tests :-/
[09:21] <Gnea> khg: i said NO
[09:21] <dent> marcel_: thanks once again, Im gonna try it out
[09:21] <khg> i used XChat :(
[09:21] <khg> i not use very good
[09:22] <Draco_1> th0r: so I can't install ubuntu on that pc?
[09:22] <thadoood> dont kick me because im right and your anal
[09:22] <thadoood>  !!!
[09:22] <th0r> Draco_1: not according to ubuntu.com
[09:22] <Gnea> !guidelines | thadoood
[09:22] <th0r> Draco_1: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition at the bottom of the page lists the hw requirements
[09:22] <Barbarella> thadoood:you can use your cdrom as a cup holder, try it.
[09:23] <Gnea> Barbarella: now that's just mean :)
[09:23] <Draco_1> th0r: strange, the install runs anyway
[09:23] <khg> bro:$
[09:23] <Obi1> hello
[09:23] <khg> Gnea
[09:23] <Draco_1> can you suggest me another linux distro to try?
[09:23] <shawnmstout> there is no vesa or nv
[09:24] <shawnmstout> in that file
[09:24] <khg> Gnea tolk me bro
[09:24] <shawnmstout> gnea
[09:24] <Gnea> khg: please /join #winehq and ask there
[09:24] <Avantgardist> hello, i need help for hda intel sound codec: Realtec ALC662 rev1 on ubuntu 9.04 64 Bit
[09:24] <roadmap> Draco_1: It could be a bad disc, bad ISO and you need to redownload it and reburn it.
[09:24] <khg> i join
[09:24] <khg> :)
[09:24] <Obi1> can anyone suggest me the option for fsck?
[09:24] <roadmap> Draco_1: Its very likely that your computer is capable but the download is corrupt. That could be a big part of it.
[09:24] <shawnmstout> gnea, no instances of vesa or nv
[09:24] <shawnmstout> in that file
[09:25] <roadmap> Draco_1: However if you want alternative distros I can give you a handfull :)
[09:25] <khg> Gnea i join
[09:25] <khg> tolk me:@
[09:26] <Eevee> Draco_1: if you redownload it try the torrent link; pretty hard to get a corrupt torrent download
[09:26] <Obi1> ??? fsck??
[09:26] <roadmap> Draco_1: If you use firefox, I'd suggest using a download manager like DownThemAll. Otherwise do as Eevee suggests and try the torrent.
[09:26] <thelastquincy> so where can i get help on my audio??
[09:26] <juha1> hi, i cant use ati catalys control center in my ubuntu, because ati have stopped support for x800 series, so i need to use open-source drivers. so i was wondering if there is some other program for linux to controlt tv-out system and other useful stuff.. is there some equal software or something els i should do?
[09:26] <shawnmstout> gnea, you falling asleep on us?
[09:26] <roadmap> Eevee: I've seen torrent clients freak out and go over 100% on a file before (120% complete? Somethings wrong). I've also seen it claim 100% and still missing a piece or two.
[09:26] <Gnea> shawnmstout: could you please pastebin it?
[09:26] <Gnea> soon...
[09:26] <shawnmstout> sure
[09:27] <roadmap> Eevee: He very easily could have jump the gun on the "Complete" from a torrent client :).
[09:27] <xPhilosx> I think that makes at least 3 of us having audio issues...
[09:27] <jebussell> hello?
[09:27] <Gnea> shawnmstout: i'm thinking that maybe you'd just be better off installing the desktop version
[09:27] <Obi1> ciao asa
[09:27] <thelastquincy> so no help just more questions?
[09:27] <ASA> hi
[09:27] <roadmap> shawnmstout: are you the guy who has Ubuntu Server and wants to get a desktop environment on it without installing ubuntu-desktop?
[09:27] <jebussell> What version do I need a forum said 7.10 Desktop
[09:28] <Draco_1> I will try the torrent thanks
[09:28] <Obi1> hi asa
[09:28] <abin_> is there some pdfedit software like adobe crobat
[09:28] <Obi1> do you know the command fsck?
[09:28] <jebussell> is that right? and will it overright OSX Tiger or Dual boot
[09:28] <shawnmstout> http://pastebin.com/f1a594131
[09:28] <roadmap> So it is you
[09:29] <shawnmstout> i would run into the same issue though
[09:29] <roadmap> shawnmstout: whats your reasoning for doing this backwards?
[09:29] <shawnmstout> with the driver
[09:29] <Eevee> jebussell: whoa, 7.10 is old.  (the versions are year.month of release.)  you probably want 9.04.  dual-booting a mac is slightly tricky though, 1s
[09:29] <roadmap> shawnmstout: Why pick a server distro then want to configure something like X on it?
[09:29] <shawnmstout> roadmap, im only installing a base system, wanted to run virtualbox overtop of it
[09:29] <Avantgardist> << HDA Intel Sound with Codec Realtec ALC662 rev1 > low volume output and if i move the mouse or starting a program the boxes make like a "sssrrrrrrrr", plz help
[09:30] <shawnmstout> gui is the only way to test to make sure that the video card is getting noticed
[09:30] <Avantgardist> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2,00GHz] mem[Physical: 1,9GB, 80,5% free] disk[Total: 47,2GB, 83,5% free] video[nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7300 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[09:30] <roadmap> shawnmstout: I would have to say Ubuntu is not necessarily suited for that kind of behaviour :).
[09:30] <xPhilosx> Hey, Im having some issues getting my ubuntu minimal install to play sound, I have the ALSA packages installed, alsa-mixer shows that nothing is muted either (running 9.04 minimal with lxde on a tx1000).  Anyone know of any posted fixes or ideas?  I've done quite a bit of searchig and I cant come up with anything.
[09:30] <shawnmstout> the server version has great reviews for virtualization
[09:30] <jebussell> I read on Pure Mac (when downloading stuff I cam across with alternate OSs) latest doesn't work with G4?
[09:30] <shawnmstout> if you read on the ubuntu site, its meant for specifically that
[09:30] <roadmap> shawnmstout: are you going to use it as a server or as a desktop with VirtualBox on top?
[09:30] <Eevee> jebussell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Dual-Boot:%20Mac%20OSX%20and%20Ubuntu
[09:31] <Gnea> shawnmstout: okay, try it like this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:31] <jebussell> cheers
[09:31] <jebussell> bbl cook dinner
[09:31] <shawnmstout> many virtualboxes and setting up a lamp server, dhcp server, tftp server
[09:31] <Eevee> jebussell: you could use the last long-term release, 8.04, but 7.10 is getting a bit ancient
[09:31] <shawnmstout> ok
[09:31] <shawnmstout> gnea, ok
[09:32] <gnubie> Avantgardist; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html     have you looked here?
[09:32] <roadmap> shawnmstout: and why wont you setup just one? Is this a home experiment or a datacenter situation?
[09:32] <el_taco> hi
[09:32] <Avantgardist> i try it thx
[09:32] <jorgerosa> hi
[09:32] <el_taco> why is it that I only want to talk to people when i'm drunk
[09:33] <jorgerosa> lol
[09:33] <dimitris> join #fosscomm
[09:33] <giganto> hi all, is there an issue with shutting down in ubuntu 9.04?
[09:33] <roadmap> el_taco: this is #ubuntu not #singles ;).
[09:33] <el_taco> lol
[09:33] <jorgerosa> lmao
[09:33] <xken> hi guys
[09:33] <jorgerosa> hi
[09:34] <shawnmstout> ok i got a choice yes/no here
[09:34] <el_taco> so there's a #ubuntu-singles?
[09:34] <shawnmstout> dont want to pick the wrong thing
[09:34] <Gnea> shawnmstout: what does it ask?
[09:34] <xken> i am a noob to limux
[09:34] <shawnmstout> use kernal framebuffer device
[09:34] <xken> i need help
[09:34] <Gnea> say no
[09:34] <shawnmstout> interface
[09:34] <shawnmstout> ok
[09:34] <Gnea> !ask | xken
[09:34] <leaphion> humm... a veery peculiar question. is there an emulator for gameboy that would have midi-sync enabled?`:)
[09:35] <shawnmstout> ok
[09:35] <shawnmstout> done
[09:35] <giganto> hi all, is there an issue with shutting down in ubuntu 9.04 ??
[09:35] <Gnea> and..?
[09:35] <xken> how can set up a local sever with ubuntu
[09:35] <Gnea> giganto: not here, is there?
[09:35] <shawnmstout> failed to load module vesa, doesnt exist
[09:36] <Gnea> xken: best to ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:36] <giganto> Gnea, when I shut down, it brings me to a blank screen where it says some number and then "system halted"
[09:36] <Niv3k> would someone point me to info on setting up a private home network. Ubuntu 9.10
[09:36] <shawnmstout> do i need to add a line in there for nv?
[09:36] <xPhilosx>  
[09:36] <Eevee> Niv3k: plug the computers into a router.  after that it rather depends what you want to do
[09:37] <Gnea> shawnmstout: possibly... cd /etc/X11/ && rgrep -i vesa     what results do you get? pastebin?
[09:37] <shawnmstout> 1 sec
[09:37] <roadmap> shawnmstout: I would recommend going with something like ArchLinux or even Gentoo at this rate if you want something for a server.
[09:37] <Gnea> Niv3k: please wait until October to ask again.
[09:37] <roadmap> shawnmstout: or just take the Ubuntu Server kernel and replace the ubuntu desktop kernel with it.
[09:37] <Niv3k> Serve files around a home network
[09:37] <roadmap> shawnmstout: Most likely that kernel is what has been optimized/streamlined for virtualization.
[09:38] <Eevee> Niv3k: right-click folders, Sharing Options.  other machines should show up under Network
[09:38] <Gnea> Niv3k: :)
[09:38] <shawnmstout> no responce yet
[09:38] <Eevee> Gnea: I assume he's using the pre-pre-pre-pre-alpha
[09:38] <shawnmstout> no command just cd /etc/X11/ && rgrep -i vesa   right?
[09:38] <Eevee> Gnea: or has a time machine which I would like to borrow
[09:38] <xPhilosx> Hey, Im having some issues getting my ubuntu minimal install to play sound, I have the ALSA packages installed, alsa-mixer shows that nothing is muted either (running 9.04 minimal with lxde on a tx1000).  Anyone know of any posted fixes or ideas?  I've done quite a bit of searchig and I cant come up with anything.
[09:38] <Gnea> Eevee: available via ess-vee-enn?
[09:38] <Niv3k> K thanks
[09:39] <giganto> umm where can I ask about this shutting down issue with ubuntu 9.04?
[09:39] <Barbarella> shawnmstout: can you pastebin dpkg -l |grep xorg
[09:39] <Niv3k> So i dont need to setup a vpn
[09:39] <Eevee> giganto: could search the forums
[09:39] <xken> what is the best distro to run a local server wisely?
[09:39] <shawnmstout> kinda froze here now gnea
[09:39] <Eevee> Niv3k: er no, that's only if you want to make a fake LAN over the internet
[09:39] <Gnea> giganto: here. just say what the details of the problem are. if someone knows, they'll try to help.
[09:40] <Niv3k> ahh... thanks
[09:40] <Eevee> xken: we have a little ubuntu desktop machine that acts as a server
[09:40] <giganto> Eevee, ah, I tried that before, nothing, that's why I came here
[09:40] <xPhilosx> xken, debian is pretty solid for servers, but its all about preference really
[09:40] <adiktd|server> ne1 else got issues with ubuntu 9.04 and ATI gfx drivers for radeon 1650
[09:40] <Gnea> shawnmstout: you did type  cd /etc/X11  before running the rgrep command, right?
[09:40] <shawnmstout> gnea, nothing is happening
[09:40] <shawnmstout> no
[09:40] <Gnea> shawnmstout: then ctrl-c
[09:40] <shawnmstout> i combined them together
[09:40] <Gnea> o.O
[09:40] <Gnea> lol
[09:41] <Gnea> shawnmstout: make sure you do the cd first :)
[09:41] <shawnmstout> im already in that directory
[09:41] <saminlinux> hi guys... can someone tell me the best supported audio format in linux. that is without installing any properitary drivers. am completely shifting to linux and want to convert all my mp3's to that format..
[09:41] <Gnea> ok - rgrep should take MUCH less time now
[09:41] <shawnmstout> ok
[09:42] <Eevee> xPhilosx: could try running a sound-producing app from the terminal.  if there's a problem talking to alsa it might spew to stderr
[09:42] <roadmap> saminlinux: mp3s are supported in Linux. So is Flac, Ogg, and any other format you can imagine.
[09:42] <PolitikerALT> saminlinux: ogg - but DON'T convert your mp3s - the quality will be much worse
[09:42] <shawnmstout> just rgrep -i vesa
[09:42] <giganto> Gnea, ah okay... The problem basically is like this, I tried shutting down the normal way, system shutdown ... etc... then it would start to shut down, the logo came up ... with that bar, after which it would go to a blank screen with a random number that looks like this "2341.23451 system halted"
[09:42] <xPhilosx> Eevee, good idea, ill give something a whirl
[09:42] <Gnea> saminlinux: ogg vorbis
[09:42] <roadmap> saminlinux: Also if you use ubuntu, synpatic has libraries for any format you want supported.
[09:42] <Gnea> shawnmstout: yes.
[09:42] <roadmap> synaptic
[09:42] <roadmap> i cant type :(
[09:42] <shawnmstout> whats it doing, out of curiosity?
[09:42] <saminlinux> so to what format should i convert my mp3'2???
[09:42] <saminlinux> mp3's???
[09:42] <roadmap> saminlinux: Don't convert them. They will work fine on Linux just as they are right now.
[09:43] <PolitikerALT> Mp3s should stay mp3s
[09:43] <Eevee> saminlinux: unless you have a statue to RMS erected in your closet, there's no reason to convert them
[09:43] <roadmap> Eevee: Stay out of my closet.
[09:43] <lflashlnzl> i have a windows 7 partition and i cant seem to resize it under gparted 9.04ubuntu
[09:43] <roadmap> lflashlnzl: I'd say try the gparted boot disk.
[09:43] <Gnea> giganto: aaah, sounds like acpi isn't working right - try this at bootup in grub on the kernel line:  acpi=force
[09:43] <saminlinux> oh ok... nope i just wanted to know all this ffmpeg and wma is driving me crazy thats why
[09:43] <Eevee> saminlinux: if you have the original CDs or flacs, sure, you could rip those to ogg, but otherwise you'd be chewing up perfectly good files
[09:43] <icareus> Hello everyone
[09:43] <icareus> Salut tout l' monde
[09:44] <Gnea> saminlinux: there's an mp32ogg
[09:44] <Eevee> lflashlnzl: gparted refuses, or it just won't let you resize it any smaller than it is now?
[09:44] <Gnea> !info mp32ogg
[09:44] <lflashlnzl> roadmap, should i just use the live CD? thats how i resize it the first time
[09:44] <roadmap> saminlinux: Once again, I'll keep my answer short and simple. Do not convert them. Mp3s play in linux. Hell, all formats that play in Windows play in Linux (note: MEDIA FILES, so Video/Audio)
[09:44] <giganto> Gnea, ah right ... the acpi problem ... there's a thread on the forum, I'll take a look at it again, I wasn't sure previously what my issue was, anyway, thanks a lot
[09:44] <roadmap> lflashlnzl: There is a bootable gparted CD i prefer for doing partition editing work. I've yet to have a problem with it.
[09:44] <saminlinux> wma doesnt seem to be supported in ubuntu am i right cos my banshee searches for codecs and reports that nothing suitable is found.. exaile hangs when wma are used
[09:45] <Shinu> Hey
[09:45] <roadmap> saminlinux: have you tried VLC?
[09:45] <Gnea> saminlinux: but I agree with roadmap - there's no need to convert them, mp3's are fine the way they are
[09:45] <lflashlnzl> Eevee, it just reduses to let me resize!  only options are to format
[09:45] <Shinu> my Ubuntu server just powered off, what should I check to see what caused it?
[09:45] <shawnmstout> gnea, its just sitting there man
[09:45] <InCrypto> hey guys , i cannot seem 2 unmount my USB pen drive on Ubuntu ..
[09:45] <shawnmstout> not donig anything
[09:45] <Gnea> shawnmstout: ctrl-c and try like this then:  rgrep -i vesa *
[09:45] <saminlinux> ok guys... i am not converting my mp3's.. what about wma's????
[09:45] <roadmap> saminlinux: vlc or mplayer will play anything. Anything. I don't care if its a format from the moon.
[09:45] <defrysk> re-compressing compressed audio-video files provides quality-loss
[09:45] <shawnmstout> ok
[09:45] <InCrypto> neither with gparted
[09:45] <Gnea> !wma | saminlinux
[09:46] <saminlinux> let me check that out... for video am using smplayer currently guys and for audio banshee and exaile
[09:46] <shawnmstout> ok had to add sudo to it but it set it now
[09:47] <Gnea> shawnmstout: any results?
[09:47] <shawnmstout> same results
[09:47] <roadmap> saminlinux: I prefer Rhythm Box and VLC for video. However VLC probably can play WMAs. I wouldn't see why it couldnt.
[09:47] <sd32> have they come up with a functional clipboard manager yet?
[09:47] <shawnmstout> change to nv?
[09:47] <Gnea> yeah
[09:47] <saminlinux> will check that out roadmap. thank you
[09:47] <Eevee> probably shouldn't have the router plugged into the outlet controlled by a wall switch
[09:47] <roadmap> saminlinux: you're welcome. And if you can't play wmas then there are plenty of tools to convert them.
[09:48] <Shinu> mweh
[09:48] <Gnea> Eevee: lol
[09:48] <Shinu> It’s up now, night
[09:48] <saminlinux> thank you guys esp Gnea, Eevee
[09:48] <Eevee> np
[09:48] <shawnmstout> nope
[09:48] <Gnea> saminlinux: cheers
[09:48] <Eevee> Gnea: someone put that outlet right next to the coax!  not my fault
[09:48] <roadmap> saminlinux: VLC plays WMAs :)
[09:48] <roadmap> I win!
[09:48] <roadmap> However it can't tell you the duration of the WMA
[09:48] <roadmap> Thats a small price to pay
[09:49] <roadmap> At least the playlist can't. The actual player seems to be able to.
[09:49] <shawnmstout> Gnea, smae thing
[09:49] <icareus> Hey folks is there anyone here who can help me with Slitaz distribution ? Here' s the only IRC I know, thats why I came here ^^
[09:49] <Gnea> shawnmstout: not sure then... and too tired to continue..sorry :(
[09:49] <shawnmstout> i think we have exhausted this, thanks for your help though
[09:49] <shawnmstout> ya im feeling the same way
[09:49] <shawnmstout> heh
[09:49] <roadmap> shawnmstout: why not use the Ubuntu Server kernel on the desktop edition?
[09:49] <roadmap> Or do you think evil will come of it ;)
[09:49] <Gnea> after 12+ hours, heh
[09:49] <shawnmstout> roadmap, its not going to help
[09:50] <roadmap> The kernel is probably what was optimized for virtualization
[09:50] <roadmap> have you ever configured/compiled a kernel?
[09:50] <roadmap> Its like authoring a novel
[09:50] <roadmap> extremely tedious
[09:50] <shawnmstout> dude, im telling you, its a driver issue, screen issue
[09:50] <InCrypto> hey guys , icannot seem to unmount or format my pendrive with ext3 on Ubuntu ..
[09:50] <roadmap> the kernel may have not been compiled with support for X :(
[09:50] <shawnmstout> it is now
[09:50] <roadmap> Ah
[09:50] <InCrypto> using gparted i made a bew partition table of msdos
[09:50] <kk_jonti> hello, can some one help me use apt-mirror?  I have done all the configurations right in the /etc/apt/mirror.list and did the sudo apt-mirror command.  but it says thread 20,19,18 .. till 2 and stops there.  finally it comes down to 1 ... and never goes ahead.
[09:51] <shawnmstout> i tried the live cd and same thing, for the desktop version
[09:51] <shawnmstout> no gui
[09:51] <InCrypto> and now i have my pendrive as unallocated place .. but wen i try to format it with ext 3 ..the operation fails
[09:51] <roadmap> shawnmstout: I would recommend another distro for this.
[09:51] <shawnmstout> ya, ill try mandriva, and if that doesnt work, well im back to windows
[09:51] <roadmap> shawnmstout: perhaps ArchLinux or Gentoo. They both have similar philosophys for doing things from scratch, and plenty of tutorials and aid to help.
[09:51] <shawnmstout> tried archlinux, same thing
[09:51] <roadmap> Really?
[09:51] <shawnmstout> yup
[09:51] <roadmap> Arch has yet to cause problems for me.
[09:51] <roadmap> and I author parts of the ArchWiki
[09:52] <Eevee> shawnmstout: uhh.  what card?
[09:52] <shawnmstout> well im using a 52in LCD TV and a geforce 8200
[09:52] <xPhilosx> Eevee, apparently im just a moron because after running alsa-mixer again I noticed that my "front" was rather low, after boosting it up, shazam, sound.  I feel totally defeated at life.
[09:52] <EnginA> is there something changed with the repositories... I've logged into my linux box... and apt-get update now gives all http 404 errors
[09:52] <shawnmstout> odd resolution, 700x400 by default on the monitor
[09:52] <Eevee> xPhilosx: haha, no worries, I've missed one of my dozen volume sliders before
[09:52] <ziroday> EnginA: what version of ubuntu?
[09:53] <roadmap> shawnmstout: that sounds very horrid :)
[09:53] <HttpError> Hmm?
[09:53] <HttpError> oh'
[09:53] <EnginA> engin@engin-desktop:~$ cat /proc/version
[09:53] <EnginA> Linux version 2.6.24-19-generic (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008
[09:53] <roadmap> shawnmstout: I've used a 47 inch LCD TV on a Geforce 8800GT
[09:53] <shawnmstout> looks good though
[09:53] <ziroday> shawnmstout: the best you can do is go fish around for a modeline for that tv. Good luck.
[09:53] <roadmap> beautiful :)
[09:53]  * HttpError goes back to idling
[09:53] <EnginA> I don't know if it is a good way to tell
[09:53] <xPhilosx> Eevee, thanks for the help though
[09:53] <fib0nacci> Can anyone recommend a program that will edit .xfdl documents?
[09:53] <Eevee> xPhilosx: sure
[09:53] <ziroday> EnginA: lsb_release -a
[09:53] <kk_jonti> i don't understand why my apt-mirror command does not work.  it stops at the thread 1 and never goes ahead.
[09:53] <shawnmstout> ziro, you should be able to force the screen size
[09:53] <ziroday> shawnmstout: yes, but tv's are funny creatures.
[09:54] <lflashlnzl> theres no hdmi _> svideo cable is there?
[09:54] <EnginA> ziroday: Description:    Ubuntu 8.04.2
[09:54] <shawnmstout> works find in windows xp though
[09:54] <roadmap> Theres DVI -> HDMI
[09:54] <shawnmstout> just wanted a smaller footprint
[09:54] <roadmap> which seems to work well
[09:54] <ziroday> EnginA: okay, and what repo?
[09:54] <EnginA> ziroday: tried us. es. tr.
[09:54] <shawnmstout> got hdmi onboard
[09:54] <ziroday> EnginA: odd, http and ftp?
[09:54] <EnginA> http
[09:54] <worldcitizen> ftp
[09:54] <shawnmstout> well i do thank everyone for thier help
[09:55] <ziroday> EnginA: hmm, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update please
[09:55] <gianluca> !it
[09:55] <shawnmstout> im going to give mandriva a try and if that doesnt work, o-well
[09:55] <EnginA> ziroday: a sample line deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe
[09:55] <roadmap> shawnmstout: you still have Linux Mint and Fedora?
[09:55] <icareus> Y' à un francophone par ici SVP ?
[09:55] <ziroday> EnginA: I need all that, you can put it in pastebin
[09:55] <ziroday> !pastebin | EnginA
[09:55] <shawnmstout> thanks again guys, later
[09:55] <roadmap> shawnmstout: or does it specifically have to be a server distro?
[09:56] <ziroday> EnginA: and if that is a sample line I'm very worried :)
[09:56] <shawnmstout> well i prefer server since im going to be running virualbox ontop of it
[09:56] <shawnmstout> but i would settle for something working atm
[09:56] <shawnmstout> heh
[09:56] <Barbarella> shawnmstout:take a lok at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki
[09:56] <roadmap> shawnmstout: Then try the Ubuntu Desktop Edition?
[09:56] <roadmap> Could try Mythbuntu
[09:56] <shawnmstout> road, err, i did man
[09:57] <shawnmstout> i said that 15 times
[09:57] <roadmap> but I don't think he wants a HTPC distro :(
[09:57] <EnginA> ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/168530/
[09:57] <roadmap> shawnmstout: Hm. Well I wish you luck
[09:57] <EnginA> ziroday: why ? it was working fine
[09:57] <shawnmstout> thanks
[09:57] <shawnmstout> later all
[09:57] <Barbarella> shawnmstout:http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Modeline_Database
[09:57] <ziroday> EnginA: err, can you pastebin lsb_release -a again please
[09:58] <shawnmstout> barbarella, dont think that will help, but ill look at it
[09:58] <shawnmstout> still need a core system
[09:58] <EnginA> ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu.com/168531/
[09:58] <ziroday> EnginA: and how did you upgrade to hardy?
[09:58] <shawnmstout> tried linux mce also
[09:58] <EnginA> ziroday: don't remmeber... probably followed a decent documentation for it
[09:59] <EnginA> ziroday: <repeating> it was all working fine
[09:59] <ziroday> EnginA: right, you have something very screwy going on. You need to change all the "gutsy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to "hardy"
[09:59] <EnginA> ziroday: I don't remember when I did a apt* thing last time... but it was working
[09:59] <EnginA> hmmm
[09:59] <Barbarella> shawnmstout:it does work for me, but good luck ;)
[09:59] <ziroday> EnginA: could you do that please
[09:59] <EnginA> that must be my stupidity ... becasuse I've did some sedding from backup source lists to try other mirrors
[09:59] <EnginA> sure
[09:59] <ziroday> EnginA: ah
[10:00] <EnginA> ziroday: ok now it looks like it is updating fine
[10:00] <EnginA> ziroday: it all started with apt-get install ncftp failure... where it couldn't find the .deb file for ncftp and get a 404
[10:01] <EnginA> ziroday: then I tried to change the mirror... and at that point I believe I've copied some gutsy source.list over my hardy one
[10:01] <ziroday> EnginA: great, please do sudo aptitude update, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:01] <ziroday> EnginA: and yeah, gutsy is eol, the repo's don't exist anymore :)
[10:01] <ziroday> !gutsy | EnginA
[10:01] <EnginA> o-oh
[10:02] <EnginA> I'm short on disk space too
[10:02] <EnginA> let me see
[10:02] <ziroday> EnginA: how short are we talking?
[10:02] <EnginA> like 300M on /
[10:02] <ziroday> EnginA: ah.
[10:02] <lflashlnzl> lol im down to my last 1gig
[10:02] <EnginA> let me see if I can delee som stuff
[10:02] <ziroday> EnginA: what are you doing currently?
[10:02] <Patrique> Hi, i'm trying to install a screensaver and when I ./configure it say GL library was not found. what should i do?
[10:02] <ziroday> EnginA: empty the trash :)
[10:02] <EnginA> ziroday: ?
[10:03] <ziroday> EnginA: are you running the aptitude command like I asked you to?
[10:03] <ziroday> Patrique: what screensaver?
[10:03] <zvacet> ziroday : sudo apt-get  clean sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:03] <ziroday> zvacet: ?
[10:03] <zvacet> ziroday: to get some space
[10:03] <EnginA> cleaning some space
[10:04] <ziroday> zvacet: please scroll up to understand the whole situation :)
[10:04] <EnginA> ziroday: not yet, in a moment
[10:04] <koshari1> EnginA: get a bigger hd :-)
[10:04] <EnginA> I hate this... when I was about to do something necessary I find myself doing something totally not-cool
[10:04] <ziroday> EnginA: okay, well before that you can do zvacet commands to get some more breathing room
[10:04] <EnginA> koshari1: this is a reaaly old box running at my other apartment :D
[10:04] <Patrique> hmm i couldn't say... rss-glx_0.7.6 the folder says
[10:05] <ziroday> Patrique: what is the name?
[10:05] <koshari1> EnginA ok get a nas drive instead , seriously clear the apt cache
[10:05] <EnginA> koshari1: this box is the nas drive hahaha
[10:05] <EnginA> it is the NAS drive itself I mean :)
[10:07] <Viking667> Hi there. Anyone know how to turn off pulseaudio? It's screwing with my sound and stuff.
[10:07] <EnginA> I was on a shared hosting... and added some domains for free for my friends and added a joomla installation to them... so that they can edittheir sites
[10:07] <EnginA> my advice: don't you do that
[10:07] <EnginA> it was the most crappiest software I have ever seen
[10:07] <EnginA> crappy code... crappy everything
[10:07] <Viking667> which? Joomla?
[10:07] <Patrique> really slick screen saver package
[10:07] <EnginA> because of its security holes my site got hacked a bit... some garbage ads all around
[10:07] <Viking667> ewww.
[10:08] <EnginA> hence I was ftping to delete all that joomla shit...
[10:08] <EnginA> ftp was short on features so I decided to install ncftp... and here I am with the apt problems...
[10:08] <jussi01> !language | EnginA
[10:08] <ziroday> Viking667: pulseaudio -k
[10:08] <EnginA> computers never work when you need them :)
[10:08] <Viking667> ahh. Thank you.
[10:08] <ziroday> EnginA: #ubuntu-offtopic is preferred for rants
[10:09] <EnginA> not ranting... just put it off my chest
[10:09] <EnginA> :)
[10:09] <sky_1> ok now i m quiting with debian as desktop...definitely it sucks as desktop....
[10:09] <nuninoo> hello all, i have 2 nics how do i know which nic is connected to the internet
[10:10] <EnginA> sky_1: linux sucks as desktop but don't tell it here :D
[10:10] <ziroday> nuninoo: ethtool or ifconfig
[10:10] <nuninoo> ziroday, thanks!
[10:10] <natrixnatrix89> hello.. How do I make a partition to be automatically mounted on startup?
[10:10] <sky_1> EnginA: now ...linux as desktop is much better than windows
[10:10] <ziroday> !fstab | natrixnatrix89 add it here
[10:11] <EnginA> riiight
[10:11] <natrixnatrix89> mmm
[10:11] <natrixnatrix89> thank's
[10:11] <ziroday> natrixnatrix89: feel free to come back if you're not sure about anything
[10:11] <enlil> Hi
[10:11] <ziroday> enlil: Hi! How can we help you today?
[10:11] <BioGuyver> Hi All, Install Ubuntu Server for the first time and think I have found a bug. Where is the best place to ask about this please?
[10:11] <ziroday> BioGuyver: #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-bugs
[10:12] <BioGuyver> thanks
[10:12] <enlil> Could those of you who have flash working with firefox paste me in private the results of "locate libflashplayer.so" and "locate flashplugin-alternative.so" ? That could help me!
[10:12] <ziroday> !nickspam > |414TooLong|
[10:13] <|414TooLong|> Sorry ziroday, migrating my nicks to a new account
[10:13] <ziroday> |414TooLong|: might want to part from here first :)
[10:14] <ziroday> enlil: http://pastebin.com/mcf2e6b4
[10:14] <susbwoy> enlil: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so                  &&          /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[10:14] <|414TooLong|> i have 2 more changes
[10:14] <enlil> Thanks zirodway
[10:14] <enlil> susbwoy, you only have these two lines?
[10:15] <sky_1> enlil: /home/user/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:15] <EnginA> ziroday: these upgrades doing also kernel upgrades I hope my box will boot fine!
[10:15] <susbwoy> enlil: flashplugin-alternative.so has a few for other browsers.
[10:15] <sky_1> how i can make flash working under Opera ?
[10:15] <ziroday> EnginA: they should be
[10:15] <ziroday> sky_1: install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:15] <ziroday> !flash > sky_1
[10:16] <Teknkik> what is the finlands support chanels name?
[10:16] <HttpError> ziroday: Done :P
[10:16] <ziroday> Teknkik: #ubuntu-fi?
[10:16] <ziroday> HttpError: awesome :)
[10:16] <sky_1> ziroday: no after dist upgrade doesnt work
[10:16] <Teknkik> thanks :D
[10:16] <Teknkik> its wrong :(
[10:16] <ziroday> Teknkik: no its correct, #ubuntu-fi
[10:17] <ziroday> !fi | Teknkik
[10:17] <Teknkik> thanks :D
[10:17] <sky_1> there was one way how to point opera load libflashplayer.so from mozilla plugins but i dont remember how :X
[10:17] <ziroday> sky_1: sorry, can't help you with opera
[10:17] <icareus> Anyone here can help me with another linux based OS (Slitaz) or can tell me where to go and get some help ?
[10:18] <ziroday> icareus: #linux
[10:18] <MartyMcFly> icareus: www.google.com
[10:18] <Teknkik> sorry, i join chanell #ubuntu-fi? :D
[10:18] <Teknkik> first
[10:19] <nANdy> i'm running ubuntu in vmware (Windows as host) - how do I change resolution in ubuntu to something user defined, like 1700*700?
[10:19] <opa__> Kann mir jemand das Wubi-Upgrade auf 9.04 empfehlen?
[10:19] <ziroday> Teknkik: no worries :)
[10:19] <ziroday> !de | opa__
[10:19] <ziroday> nANdy: using xrandr, but I don't know the actual command sorry.
[10:20] <nANdy> ziroday: i tried that, just made me confused
[10:20] <ziroday> nANdy: possibly grandr?
[10:20] <Blodskur> Hey I'm using 9.04 through Ubuntu and I can access  my Windows DATA partition, but if I add all of my music to Banshee, it works fine until I reboot the computer. Then I need to readd all of my music again. Any solutions for this?
[10:20] <Blodskur> Using it through Wubi too.
[10:20] <Teknkik> My ubuntu is just like Mac OS X :D
[10:21] <sky_1> because unix like os's ?
[10:21] <ziroday> Blodskur: you need to add your windows partition to fstab to have it automatically mounted at boot
[10:21] <ziroday> !fstab | Blodskur
[10:21] <Blodskur> That's great, thanks.
[10:21] <Teknkik> no, theme is like Mac OS theme, and its cool:D
[10:21] <ziroday> Blodskur: have fun
[10:21] <Blodskur> I'll try. :P
[10:22] <Patrique> where can i find good screen savers for ubuntu?
[10:22] <Teknkik> MAc4lin rock
[10:22] <sky_1> Patrique: gnome-look.org
[10:22] <Patrique> k thx
[10:22] <ziroday> Patrique: install rss-glx
[10:22] <lflashlnzl> whats the easyest and best way to start learning to program for linux?
[10:22] <ziroday> lflashlnzl: what language?
[10:23] <lflashlnzl> english?
[10:23] <sky_1> no programming language
[10:23] <ziroday> lflashlnzl: programming language :)
[10:23] <sky_1> start with Python
[10:23] <lflashlnzl> i dont know man im still new i did some visual basic in scholl
[10:23] <lflashlnzl> ok ill start with python thanks
[10:23] <sky_1> lflashlnzl: no vb for linux
[10:23] <sky_1> you will only learn bad habbits
[10:24] <ziroday> lflashlnzl: dive into python is a good read.
[10:24] <lflashlnzl> thanks
[10:24] <Teknkik> is here some oftopick chanel?
[10:24] <M-a-r-k> I have a virus
[10:25] <M-a-r-k> Or whatever
[10:25] <Teknkik> in linux?
[10:25] <sky_1> you cant be affected by viruses
[10:25] <M-a-r-k> Yep
[10:25] <ziroday> Teknkik: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <M-a-r-k> Got it through IM
[10:25] <nANdy> ziroday: I just tried grandr. I wrote 1700*700 manually in the text box (it wasn't as option) and clocked Apply. Nothing happend. I restarted Ubuntu. No change :(
[10:25] <sky_1> ok your exe can be affected by viruses
[10:25] <shaky> .net
[10:25] <Teknkik> thankcs ziroday :D
[10:25] <ziroday> nANdy: only other way I know is in xorg.conf, sorry
[10:25] <ziroday> M-a-r-k: how do you know you have a virus?
[10:26] <koshari1> ziroday cough cough
[10:26] <nANdy> ziroday: k, tried that too, but the lines all the tutorials are mentioning aren't present in my xorg.conf
[10:26] <Patrique> ziroday: i'm trying to install it but it says gl library is missing
[10:26] <koshari1> i rang the swine flu information line the other day but all i got was crackle!
[10:26] <ziroday> nANdy: you need to add them in yourself
[10:26] <M-a-r-k> Basically I got a message that seemed to be from one of my buddies that said Photo? Link to supposed photo with my msn id in it HA HA
[10:27] <ziroday> Patrique: are you doing sudo apt-get install rss-glx?
[10:27] <ziroday> M-a-r-k: change your hotmail password then.
[10:27] <M-a-r-k> Good idea
[10:27] <ziroday> M-a-r-k: and that isn't a virus, its a phishing attack.
[10:28] <sky_1> social engeneering
[10:28] <M-a-r-k> Damn. How do I change the password?
[10:28] <ziroday> M-a-r-k: we can't help you with hotmail here.
[10:29] <Patrique> ziroday: no i'm not
[10:29] <Patrique> should i?
[10:29] <ziroday> Patrique: yes...
[10:30] <Hedge|Hog> why is the default gnome desktop in ubuntu such a resource hog in comparison with for example sabayon? on my box, a core 2 duo, both cores idle around 10 % in gnome system monitor on the jaunty live cd, while they idle around 2-3 % with compiz activated on a sabayon live cd in gnome
[10:30] <Hedge|Hog> (in gnome system monitor also)
[10:30] <Patrique> ok i got it... thx:)
[10:30] <iSunny> Hedge|Hog: Ya... I don't understand you
[10:31] <Turnni> umm when i boot with ubuntu my keyboard doesnt work o.O
[10:31] <Turnni> however in bios and in help it does
[10:31] <Hedge|Hog> iSunny: the gnome desktop in sabayon seems much easier on the cpu
[10:31] <Slart> Hedge|Hog: no idea.. might be graphics driver related.. or some other service running on ubuntu and not sabayon.. on my machine the installed system barely registers when idling
[10:31] <Severian> Turnni, is it a USB keyboard?
[10:31] <Hedge|Hog> Slart: it shouldnt be like that then?
[10:31] <Turnni> no
[10:32] <Slart> Hedge|Hog: I really can't say.. but I don't see that behaviour on my machine..
[10:33] <Hedge|Hog> Slart: its not that you notice it when running other programs or so, but its quite a big difference between 10-15% load on idle on both cores and just 2-3%
[10:33] <Slart> Hedge|Hog: when I run the system-monitor it is the process that is using the most cpu cycles.. and that's running azureus, music playing etc..
[10:33] <archman> Can I remove gnome-dbg (because I want to remove Evolution) if I use xfce, but Gnome is still installed and using some of it's apps?
[10:33] <Slart> Hedge|Hog: you might want to check if ubuntu lowers the frequency on your cpus.. that makes the percentage go up
[10:33] <Hedge|Hog> well, i know that, but its in gnome system monitor on both distributions
[10:34] <Hedge|Hog> nope, both desktops with the cpugovernor set to performance first
[10:34] <Slart> Hedge|Hog: apart from that there isn't really much we can say about why your system behaves the way it does.. if you feel sabayon is snappier and more responsive then by all means use that
[10:35] <Turnni> severian: its got 6 pins idk what its called
[10:35] <Hedge|Hog> allright, thats what i thought youd answer..
[10:36] <Viking667> damn.
[10:36] <Viking667> Oh, sorry.
[10:36] <Viking667> My uh, pulseaudio refuses to uh, shut up.
[10:36] <Turnni> however my mouse in both usb and whatever the 6pin's called doesnt work when i boot
[10:36] <Turnni> o.O
[10:37] <Slart> PS2 ?
[10:37] <Viking667> I've got it on the system but I don't want it to start for my current user. How do I turn it off for that user?
[10:37] <Viking667> Do I wander through gconf looking for a pulseaudio switch?
[10:37] <Severian> Turnni, That is eith a PS2 or AT keyboard, then.  The small one is PS2 and that is most likely.  I have seen a problem on some motherboards with USB keyboards, and I thought I might have been able to help if it had been that.  Sorry, I don't have a suggestion for you.
[10:38] <kn_mb> hey, is there anybody who can give an link to an helpful howto for installing a irc-hybrid-server?
[10:38] <kn_mb> google didn't help that much
[10:39] <Hymnosis> where is the firewall in ubuntu?
[10:39] <kn_mb> use firestarter to manage your firewall
[10:39] <Severian> Hymnosis, iptables
[10:39] <kn_mb> it is an gui
[10:39] <Hymnosis> thanks
[10:39] <Slart> !ufw
[10:39] <Turnni> severian: what about my usb mouse?
[10:39] <Slart> huh..no ufw factoid
[10:39] <Slart> !firewall
[10:40] <Sergeant_Pony> is there a way to have firestarter run after login?
[10:40] <Slart> !session | Sergeant_Pony
[10:41] <Sergeant_Pony> Slart, even tho a password is needed to run it?
[10:41] <Slart> Sergeant_Pony: but firestarter is just a gui to setup the firewall.. it isn't a firewall in itself.. it's already running when you boot
[10:41] <Sergeant_Pony> Slart, that's how I monitor what's going on with my inet connection
[10:42] <Slart> Sergeant_Pony: then you have to work some more.. you can make sudo not require a password for firestarter.. or use some other mechanism.. there are  few..
[10:42] <Sergeant_Pony> Slart, ok thanks
[10:42] <kn_mb> please i need a sample config-file for irc-hybrid-server
[10:43] <kn_mb> or a helpful howto
[10:43] <kn_mb> any ideas where i can find this?
[10:43]  * __d3f0__ is away: Ausente por el momento
[10:43] <kn_mb> google didn't help
[10:44] <harlemdavvey> how can i install FluxBox in ubuntu 9.04??
[10:45] <harlemdavvey> guys could anybody help me in telling me how to install a window manager in my ubuntu 9.04??
[10:45] <Hymnosis> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:45] <harlemdavvey> omg thx!
[10:46] <Severian> Probably better would be     sudo apt-get install fluxbox fluxconf
[10:46] <harlemdavvey> guys do you use gnome, kde or a lighter window manager?
[10:46] <Viking667> hm. Can't remove pulseaudio, as several packages say they depend upon it, too.
[10:46] <Severian> harlemdavvey, yes, usually.
[10:47] <Viking667> I use kde here on Mandriva, though on Ubuntu, I use the Gnome default of metacity.
[10:47] <jbaker> what file does ubuntu store keyboad shortcuts in ? - i have a backup of my home directory and need to restore...
[10:47] <Severian> harlemdavvey, I use those and one that is not lighter.  enlightenment.
[10:47] <harlemdavvey> and have you ever used a lighter environment like enlightenment, fluxbox, ...??
[10:48] <mucku_mucku> Hey there I have an old Samsung R50 laptop running dualboot ubuntu 9.04 / XP. Compared to XP i have 70% of the battery life in Jaunty (even with powertop). What could be the cause for this?
[10:48] <harlemdavvey> i would love to use a sort-of -alternative window manager but i really cannot find some guides
[10:48] <Severian> harlemdavvey, openbox is my current preference for a lightweight manager.  Install crunchbang.  It is Ubuntu customized for openbox.
[10:50] <andruk> im going to be playing around with X this summer.  does anybody know any good books for understanding/programming X?
[10:53] <harlemdavvey> is crunchbang installable with terminal command?
[10:55] <Severian> harlemdavvey, crunchbang is an installable Linux distro, just like ubuntu.  In fact, it is derived from Ubuntu.  You boot from the CD and then install from the menu.
[10:56] <hbekel> harlemdavvey: sudo apt-get install openbox
[10:57] <harlemdavvey> severian : i don't want to install with iso
[10:57] <JamalHanan> gg
[10:57] <harlemdavvey> i have no time to download
[10:57] <sky_1> !build-essential
[10:58] <sky_1> i love you ubottu
[10:59] <Eevee> harlemdavvey: how do you expect to install it without downloading it
[10:59] <harlemdavvey> Eevee: the way i did
[10:59] <harlemdavvey> from the terminal
[10:59] <harlemdavvey> thanks to everyone anyway
[10:59] <harlemdavvey> i had to download a script
[10:59] <harlemdavvey> ;)
[10:59] <Eevee> you still have to have the OS to install it..
[11:00] <Severian> harlemdavvey, as someone else said, you can install openbox from apt-get.  Crunchbang has a nicely configured openbox and is better to start with.  But, if you don't have time, then make do.  Good luck.
[11:01] <elad> I want to install all the dictionaries dict looks at locally. Which are they?
[11:01] <blixt> greets! when i shut down i get a loud beep in the speakers... how do i handle that?
[11:01] <sky_1> hi how i can compile program from source ?
[11:01] <ikonia> !compile > sky_1
[11:02] <blixt> tried looking at the log.. wow.. lots of info
[11:03] <SparkyFlary> does anyone know how to dual boot ubuntu linux with windows xp pro with ubuntu installed first?
[11:03] <elad`> I want to install all the dictionaries dict looks at locally. Which are they?
[11:04] <quibbler> !duelboot | SparkyFlary
[11:04] <quibbler> !duel boot | SparkyFlary
[11:04] <SparkyFlary> !dual boot
[11:04] <quibbler> !info duelboot
[11:05] <Slart> SparkyFlary: install windows then restore grub according to the !grub factoid
[11:05] <blixt> spark: here's a suggestion (don't really know what i'm talking about)  try partitioning apropriately, install xp as usual, then install proper boot-handling..
[11:05] <Guest34484> anyone know how I can find out what package xf86Version.h is in ?
[11:05] <Slart> Guest34484: apt-file
[11:05] <SparkyFlary> first of all i used all of my disk space for ubuntu
[11:06] <SparkyFlary> how do i parition it to make room for xp?
[11:06] <Guest34484> Slart: when I haven't actually got it yet .. :)
[11:06] <blixt> gparted
[11:06] <raven_> hi - i am trying to mount an backup image made with partimage - "specify file system..." need help please - tnx...
[11:06] <Slart> !find xf86version.h
[11:06] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: boot off the livecd and use the partition editor on the system menu
[11:06] <gedO> hey guys
[11:06] <SparkyFlary> then what Evee?
[11:06] <Slart> Guest34484: it seems it doesn't exist in the ubuntu repos at least..
[11:06] <gedO> can someone help me ? :)
[11:07] <gedO> I need to install MS Office in ubuntu
[11:07] <Slart> Guest34484: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54462
[11:07] <blixt> how do i best find out why i get a beep when i shut down?
[11:07] <gedO> so i want to ask if it is imposible?
[11:07] <Guest34484> Thanks Slart :)
[11:07] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: not exactly sure; don't know how finnicky Windows is about how it's installed.  but I would try installing windows, then booting off the livecd again and using grub-install to fix the bootloader
[11:08] <mankork> hi
[11:08] <mankork> do you know what does it means: use it in constructor, no side effect
[11:08] <Slart> Guest34484: you're welcome
[11:08] <mankork> for a class of this type: class myclass{int var; void setvar (int v) {var=v;} }
[11:08] <SparkyFlary> but i cant install windows..if i do that ill lose all of my files
[11:08] <Eevee> gedO: older versions definitely run in wine; newer ones not so sure.  what do you need it for?
[11:08] <SparkyFlary> on ubuntu
[11:08] <Ericson25> Hey guys , can somebody help me ? i have a problem booting ubuntu 8.04
[11:08] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: well that's what the partition editor is for; just shrink the ubuntu partition
[11:09] <SparkyFlary> i made 20 gb of free space now what
[11:09] <Armageddon> Do you think the new kernel update will be considered in the updates of ubuntu ?
[11:09] <painted> gnea, you here?
[11:09] <bassliner> how do i change my default browser from firefox to epiphany? like that one that opens when i click a link in evolution?
[11:09] <vudj> hi everyone
[11:09] <vudj> ^^
[11:09] <vudj> i'm come from viet nam
[11:09] <Eevee> bassliner: system > preferences > preferred applications
[11:09] <Slart> bassliner: update-alternatives perhaps.. not sure though
[11:09] <vudj> #ubuntu
[11:10] <Slart> bassliner: ah.. what Eevee said sounds much better, go with that
[11:10] <SparkyFlary> i made free space, put in xp cd but xp cd doesnt want to install on the free space
[11:10] <vudj> co ai la nguoi viet nam khong?
[11:10] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: did you make free space or actually resize the partition
[11:10] <vudj> co ai la nguoi niet nam khong
[11:10] <vudj> ?
[11:10] <vudj> ?
[11:10] <vudj> ?
[11:10] <FloodBot3> vudj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:10] <bassliner> Eevee: thanks.
[11:10] <SparkyFlary> im not sure i tihnk i resized it most likely
[11:10] <Eevee> np
[11:11] <kobazik> Hi guys, I have asus mobo with snd-hda-intel. I'm having problem with headphones jack sense. I tried to modprobe snd-hda-intel with all models but I did not help. Any ideas?
[11:11] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: well have a look in system > admin > partition editor and see if there's unpartitioned space on the drive
[11:11] <blixt> strange thing is i have "Play alerts and sound effects" unchecket and still get login drum
[11:12] <peaches> !it
[11:12] <peaches> vudj: do you speak'e de englisch
[11:12] <Ericson25>  Hey guys , can somebody help me ? i have a problem booting ubuntu 8.04
[11:12] <hakki99> morning
[11:12] <Armageddon> Ericson25: what problem ?
[11:12] <raven_> hi - i am trying to mount an backup image made with partimage - "specify file system..." need help please - tnx...
[11:12] <hakki99> -h
[11:12] <SparkyFlary> it says 15.74 gb unallocated
[11:12] <bj0rn2> I use the sftp:// procotol in nautilus and like it alot, but I'd also like to use the sftp "filesystem" in fstab / mount .. is that possible?
[11:13] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: huh, what did the xp cd do exactly?
[11:13] <Eevee> bj0rn2: you can mount over ssh with sshfs
[11:13] <SparkyFlary> Evee: the xp cd said something like theres no hard drive and just told me to restart
[11:14] <SparkyFlary> Eevee: do i format the unallocated 15gb?
[11:14] <Ericson25> Armageddon: when i boot ubuntu i get this message:Kinit: no resume image, doing normal boot
[11:14] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: could try sticking an ntfs partition in there yeah
[11:14] <kabir1> where will GDM themes be saved?
[11:15] <SparkyFlary> Eevee: Gparted doesnt have an option for ntfs though
[11:15] <SparkyFlary> it does but it doesnt let me
[11:15] <Armageddon> Ericson25: and then ? it sticks there ?
[11:15] <Eevee> ugh
[11:16] <Slart> Ericson25: I'm not sure but I think that's just for hibernating.. you didn't use hibernate so it doesn't find a memory image to load
[11:16] <SparkyFlary> do i make it fat32?
[11:16] <bj0rn2> Eevee: thanks looks exactly what I want, except that mount/fstab doesn't supports the type? (just installed sshfs)
[11:16] <Ericson25> Slart: ok but it dont load ubuntu  after doing that
[11:17] <Slart> Ericson25: then it's something else that fails.. I don't think that error message has anything to do with it
[11:17] <Armageddon> SparkyFlary: yes fat32 is read by xp
[11:17] <Eevee> bj0rn2: well it's not a file you're mounting so mount doesn't do it, no.  it goes through fuse
[11:18] <LS22> hi
[11:18] <SparkyFlary> can i then make that fat32 to ntfs with xp?
[11:18] <LS22> Want free stuff? Go here - http://linktoit.us/freethings/ There is proof on the page (blog link) that it is not a scam.
[11:18] <bj0rn2> Eevee: got that, but isn't cifs also a fuse and still work through standard mount?
[11:18] <Armageddon> SparkyFlary: yes you can from the CD
[11:18] <jrib> !ot | LS22
[11:18] <Armageddon> SparkyFlary: i think when you install XP on that partition it will automaticly format it into NTFS
[11:19] <elad`> I want to install all the dictionaries dict looks at locally. Which are they?
[11:19] <Eevee> SparkyFlary: you could yes.  but if xp doesn't see the *drive* at all then I'm not sure if this will help.  it should have at least listed the unrecognized partition
[11:19] <Paddy_EIRE> elad`: there are loads.. depends which ones you have installed
[11:19] <Ericson25> Slart:so what can i do?
[11:19] <game> hola alquien sabe como configurar el host del openVas server
[11:19] <jrib> !es | game
[11:19] <elad`> Paddy_EIRE, it searches a couple. I want all of them installed, since otherwise, it searches for them online, and that makes each query very slow.
[11:20] <Armageddon> Eevee: it should'v listed everything !!!
[11:20] <Slart> Ericson25: you could try using noacpi, noapic and nolapic to see if that improves things
[11:20] <SparkyFlary> im going to have to go to sleep. ill try it tomorrow. thanks for the help everyone.
[11:20] <Slart> Ericson25: those are kernel switches.. you enter them at the grub boot menu
[11:21] <archman> How can I assign a "windows" key to be used like "Hide windows and show desktop"?
[11:21] <Eevee> bj0rn2: oh, hm.  I think there's kernel support for cifs?
[11:22] <elad`> Paddy_EIRE, it searches a couple. I want all of them installed, since otherwise, it searches for them online, and that makes each query very slow.
[11:22] <lianimator> archman: only the windows key? or combinatoin?
[11:22] <qwert666> hi i`m compiling new kernel (wireless-testing) and i`m using old .config , i got some warnings about modules when i loaded the old config ( "symbol value 'm' invalid for ACPI_DOCK" etc.) can i ignore them ?
[11:22] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | elad`
[11:22] <bj0rn2> Eevee: aha that's the diff then I guess. but still I should be able to use sshfs manually then. thanks for the education :)
[11:22] <Paddy_EIRE> elad`: yeah well that would depend on your connection to.. just a sec
[11:23] <Ericson25> Slart:ok thanks i will try that
[11:23] <Eevee> archman: install compizconfig settings manager; go to general options > key bindings; assign super+whatever to Show Desktop
[11:23] <elad`> Paddy_EIRE, it's not slow-slow, but it's slower than operating locally. Noticeably slower. So I want everything to be local. But I don't know what constitutes everything.
[11:23] <Armageddon> Do you think the new kernel update will be considered in the updates of ubuntu ?
[11:23] <ikonia> Armageddon: what update ?
[11:23] <archman> lanimator, only windows key, without and managers, Eevee
[11:24] <Eevee> er
[11:24] <archman> lianimator^
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> elad`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145949
[11:24] <archman> any*
[11:24] <archman> damn typos
[11:24] <Armageddon> ikonia: kernel
[11:24] <ikonia> Armageddon: what kernel update though ?
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> elad`: yeah I used to exclusively use it locally
[11:24] <Eevee> archman: doing it with just the key will be a bit more difficult.  it's a modifier like ctrl
[11:24] <estan> argh. the printer at my family's house has stopped working (intrepid), i can print a CUPS test page fine, but when i try to print a 6 page PDF from evince, it just blinks for a while then stops.. anyone had the same?
[11:24] <Armageddon> ikonia: they just released a new version :/
[11:24] <ikonia> Armageddon: who has ?
[11:25] <estan> i really need to print this thing (school work) ;/
[11:25] <lianimator> archman: the windows key is called the <Super> key in ubuntu
[11:25] <Armageddon> ikonia: dude there is a new kernel release go check it out
[11:25] <archman> Eevee, I think it's easy, I just need to know which command is used when I push the "show to desktop" icon...
[11:25] <estan> CUPS says the printer is idle and accepting jobs :(
[11:25] <archman> lianimator, true ;)
[11:25] <ikonia> Armageddon: who has release a new kernel update ?
[11:26] <Agion> My sounds don't work on ubuntu. anyone help?
[11:26] <Armageddon> ikonia: the kernel team
[11:26] <ikonia> Armageddon: do you mean the generic kernel.org kernel release ?
[11:26] <Eevee> estan: tried printing from any other app?
[11:27] <lianimator> archman: I got it working.
[11:27] <koshari1> Agion do you know what sound card/chip you have?
[11:27] <Armageddon> ikonia: yes :/
[11:27] <Armageddon> ikonia: do other teams release new KERNEL ?
[11:27] <ikonia> Armageddon: it is very doubtful ubuntu will adopt a kernel release update, they rarley have done in the past unless there is something critical
[11:27] <lianimator> archman: run gconf, scroll all the way down, look for "Hide all windows..."
[11:27] <ikonia> Armageddon: yes, funny enough , distributions and pacakges release kernel updates, hence why I was asking "who"
[11:27] <lianimator> archman: then just hit Super key
[11:27] <Agion> kosharl1: some intel's integrated in my MSI motherboard
[11:28] <albech_> can anyone recommend a good editor with C-syntax recognition?
[11:28] <Armageddon> ikonia: oh ok :/ they shouldnt call it kernel, but iv heard it makes the boot faster by 6 seconds !
[11:28] <Eevee> albech_: vim
[11:28] <darkex> notepad++
[11:28] <estan> Eevee: well yes, i tried printing from acrobat on the windows machine upstairs (i have samba configured on the printer down here).
[11:28] <ikonia> Armageddon: ha ha ha, I doubt that VERY much
[11:28] <ikonia> Armageddon: boot time is machine and configuration specific
[11:28] <lianimator> archman: oops, don't run gconf. run Keyboard Shortcuts! sorry.
[11:28] <sky_1> ikonia: can you help me to set flash to working under Opera ? (i cant install / reinstall flashplugin-nonfree it doesnt work)
[11:28] <axel_> Hello! I've some problems with netbook remix: When switching the desktop mode from "classical desktop" to "Ubuntu-Netbook-Desktop" the GNOME panels remain displayed and are layed over the "netbook interface". How to fix that?
[11:28] <Armageddon> ikonia: i meant the kernel load
[11:29] <estan> Eevee: the same thing happens, it blinks for a while then stops, and cups shows the job as finished... this all used to work before (both from windows upstairs and locally).. don't know what has happened, i haven't upgraded any packages (though i did just now to see if it would fix it).
[11:29] <Eevee> lianimator: that won't work.  <Super> isn't a keypress
[11:29] <ikonia> Armageddon: the kernel load is dependant on individual machines/hardware and packaging - so as I said "thats nonsese"
[11:29] <ikonia> sky_1: what's the problem when you try to install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[11:29] <lianimator> Eevee: Super_L works.
[11:29] <Armageddon> ikonia: well thats what i'v heard at least :D
[11:29] <ikonia> Armageddon: I very much doubt that
[11:29] <estan> Eevee: hrm. weird i just tried from gedit and it works.
[11:29] <Armageddon> ikonia: ok :D
[11:29] <archman> lianimator, do you know a run command for "keyboard Shortcuts"? I'm on xfce, don't have it in my menu...
[11:29] <lianimator> Eevee: likewise, Control_L works like pressing control
[11:29] <estan> Eevee: guess it's something with PDF printing.
[11:30] <estan> Eevee: i'll see if i can get acrobat installed here..
[11:30] <sky_1> ikonia: nothing happend...opera ignore it....i installed flash to firefox copying libfhlasplayer.so to plugins ...but i want it to opera too
[11:30] <Paddy_EIRE> estan: or evince is just not pointed at your printer
[11:30] <lianimator> archman: never use xfce.. do you have metacity?
[11:30] <ikonia> sky_1: why did you need to copy anything for flash, flashplugin-nonfree works for firefox
[11:30] <Eevee> estan: or a problem with evince.  could try opening it with something else
[11:30] <estan> Paddy_EIRE: yea, it's pointed at the right printer. and i tried both 300 and 600 dpi.
[11:30] <estan> Eevee: yea.
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> estan: get all the usual suspects out of the way first before you go app install crazy
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[11:31] <sky_1> ikonia: no after distro upgrade installing with apt doesnt work for me so i made it :X
[11:31] <sky_1> ikonia: *installing flash
[11:31] <estan> Paddy_EIRE: ;)
[11:31] <kindofabuzz> tried to make WoW run in windowed mode and it crashed X, now I have no sound at all. help?
[11:31] <estan> is acroread in medibuntu?
[11:31] <Eevee> lianimator: if I press and release any modifier alone in Keyboard Shortcuts it cheerfully does nothing
[11:31] <ikonia> sky_1: you needed to debug that problem then rather than copy files around
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> estan: yes
[11:32] <linduxed> what tool do i use to regulate mixer levels? and i dont mean stuff like PCM and such but bass and treble
[11:32] <estan> Paddy_EIRE: alright.
[11:32] <archman> lianimator, yes
[11:32] <sky_1> ikonia: so what i must do ?
[11:32] <Agion> koshari1: now they work.. strange? probably there's something broken anyway
[11:32] <lianimator> archman: um. do you have gconf-editor ?
[11:32] <lianimator> archman: or some kind of configuration editor.
[11:33] <archman> yes
[11:33] <lianimator> archman: run that. go to apps/metacity/global_keybindings
[11:33] <bassliner> anyone an idea why my links still open in firefox after changing to evolution in "preferred applications"?
[11:33] <lianimator> bassliner: evolution isn't a browser.
[11:33] <archman> lianimator, thanks, will try, gotta go to lunch, i'll contact you ;)
[11:34] <kindofabuzz> what should I delete in ~ to get a default jaunty desktop/theme? going to reinstall but keep ~
[11:34] <lianimator> archman: I gotta go too, just change the value to Super_L
[11:34] <bassliner> err
[11:34] <bassliner> anyone an idea why my links still open in firefox after changing to epiphany in "preferred applications"?
[11:34] <bassliner> lianimator: sorry
[11:34] <estan> bah the fancy command lines for adding the medibuntu GPG key at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu didn't work.. anyone know the old school incantation (where you pipe to gpg and whatnot)?
[11:35] <jrib> estan: pastebin
[11:35] <Eevee> bassliner: umm you might need to restart evolution.  or something.
[11:35] <Justin15> Hey everybody, i have a problem with my Sound System on ubuntu 8.04 can anyone help me?
[11:36] <bassliner> Eevee: tried that
[11:37] <Slart> estan: the long thing didn't work? did you get an error message?
[11:38] <estan> jrib: http://rafb.net/p/7Buayx72.html
[11:38] <estan> Slart: yea ^
[11:38] <Justin15> ﻿Hey everybody, i have a problem with my Sound System on ubuntu 8.04 can anyone help me?
[11:38] <Callum> well, what's the problem?
[11:39] <estan> Slart: it's in swedish though but the first error there essentially mean "GPG error, signature couldn't be verified because the public key is not available".
[11:40] <Slart> estan: are you running intrepid?
[11:40] <Justin15> ﻿Callum:the problem is that my ubuntu  don't make any sound
[11:40] <Slart> estan: it worked for me on jaunty.. something might have changed in the update process
[11:40] <estan> Slart: yes, intrepid.
[11:41] <Slart> estan: and it seems to work for you after installing the medibuntu keyring thingy
[11:41] <Slart> estan: there is an error but it's not medibuntu related
[11:41] <estan> no the key is not installed, and stuff from medibuntu don't show up in aptitude search.
[11:42] <estan> i'd like to find the old instructions since these don't seem to work for me.
[11:42] <estan> eventhough the instructions says that that long command should be for any ubuntu release.
[11:42] <estan> anyone know how i can just fetch the medibuntu key from the net and add it to my keyring with gpg?
[11:43] <Justin15> ﻿Hey everybody, i have a problem with my Sound System on ubuntu 8.04 can anyone help me?
[11:43] <Eevee> bassliner: alas, not sure why that doesn't work.  there's always update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[11:44] <jrib> estan: in english
[11:44] <Agion> what's the best driver for ATIx1950 graphic card?
[11:44] <Justin15> ﻿Hey everybody, i have a problem with my Sound System on ubuntu 8.04 can anyone help me?
[11:44] <deany> how can I change the scheduler (cfg/deadline etc), permanently?
[11:44] <jrib> estan: run your commands with LC_ALL=C at the beginning
[11:44] <estan> jrib: 12:41 < estan> Slart: it's in swedish though but the first error there essentially mean "GPG error, signature couldn't be verified because the public key is not available".
[11:44] <estan> jrib: alright.
[11:45] <deany> cfq i think is used, and its a horror when makin vbox hd images
[11:46] <estan> jrib: http://rafb.net/p/obM90V52.html
[11:46] <jrib> estan: in any case, looks like it's just some ppa complaining?
[11:46] <estan> jrib: yes, it's complaining that the key isn't added.
[11:46] <jrib> estan: medibuntu looks fine, you need the gpg key for the ppa you have, not medibuntu
[11:46] <estan> s/added/there/
[11:47] <estan> jrib: hum. ah damn.
[11:48] <estan> ah because i was searching for "acro" using aptitude search acro to try to find the acrobat reader package that Paddy_EIRE said was in medibuntu, but didn't get a result, so i thought something went wrong when adding the medibuntu packages..
[11:48] <estan> but maybe acrobat reader isn't in medibuntu after all?
[11:48] <Justin15> ﻿Hey everybody, i have a problem with my Sound System on ubuntu 8.04 can anyone help me?
[11:48] <jrib> estan: http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/index.html
[11:49] <estan> jrib: hm, so it is there. but still it doesn't show up when i do "aptitude search acro"..
[11:51] <estan> maybe the ppa gpg error prevents apt to update from medibuntu properly.. e.g. aborted before it?
[11:51] <jrib> estan: apt-cache search -n acroread returns nothing?
[11:51] <estan> jrib: nope.
[11:51] <bassliner> damn, stupid evolution still wants to open firefox for links even after apt-get removing them
[11:52] <bassliner> s/them/firefox/
[11:52] <jrib> estan: what arch are you using?
[11:52] <estan> jrib: but i think i might need to fix the ppa error first (install the ppa keys).. because maybe the cache isn't updated correctly if updating from one of the repos fails?
[11:52] <estan> jrib: i386.
[11:52] <th0r> bassliner: did you change the default browser?
[11:52] <jrib> estan: http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/acroread.html only on amd64 (don't know why)
[11:52] <bassliner> th0r: yes.
[11:53] <jrib> estan: now I do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/359523
[11:53] <estan> jrib: i'm on intrepid though.
[11:53] <jrib> estan: same thing on intrepid
[11:54] <bassliner> th0r: grr, this is stupid.
[11:54] <abin> who has libglade0 deb
[11:54] <abin> who has libglade0 deb
[11:54] <jrib> !ask | abin
[11:54] <estan> jrib: ah, (just read that bug). thanks!
[11:54] <deany> cfq i think is used, and its a horror when makin vbox hd images
[11:54] <deany> how can I change the scheduler (cfg/deadline etc), permanently?
[11:54] <lem_> hey
[11:56] <bassliner> even when i enter x-www-browser in a terminal epiphany opens
[11:56] <bassliner> just evolution wouldn't get it
[11:56] <jrib> bassliner: use update-alternatives
[11:57] <estan> jrib: works fine now. thanks for setting me straight.
[11:58] <lianimator> bassliner: where are the links from?
[11:58] <f4000> my file sharing quit working when starting firestarter, anyone know what the problem? and how to solve it, thanks
[12:00] <bassliner> jrib: also tried that, evolution still tries to open firefox
[12:00] <bassliner> lianimator: what links?
[12:00] <userek> hi, I'm trying to install 9.04 on a hp laptop and the installer wont run, there is an error: modprobe: FATAL: /lib/modules/kernel-version****/modules.dep doesn't exist
[12:00] <userek> or something like that
[12:00] <matreya6> userek, did you try the Alternate version?
[12:01] <lianimator> bassliner: the links you want to open with epiphany
[12:01] <jrib> bassliner: does it work properly outside of evolution?
[12:01] <jrib> estan: no problem
[12:01] <userek> matreya6: no, what is it?
[12:01] <natrixnatrix89> how do i find out the UUID of a hard disk or a removable storage?
[12:01] <jrib> !uuid | natrixnatrix89
[12:01] <matreya6> !ubuntu > userek
[12:02] <natrixnatrix89> thank's
[12:02] <natrixnatrix89> works!
[12:02] <natrixnatrix89> :)
[12:03] <bassliner> jrib: yes
[12:03] <userek> matreya6: it tells me nothing that i don't know...
[12:03] <bassliner> lianimator: evolution
[12:03] <matreya6> userek, try the option to scan the CD for defects. That way you might find out if something went wrong while burning your image.
[12:03] <markupdude> i installed samba and now able to file transfer between my ubuntu and xp PCs over my home network. But along with that i would like to share/read/write a second HDD that is in the Ubuntu machine. so when i mount it and share it it becomes only accessible for root
[12:03] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[12:04] <markupdude> so even though i can see that HDD from my XP machine i can write anything to it
[12:04] <koshari1> markupdude what are the folders permissions?
[12:04] <markupdude> PS - i share a drive/folder by right clicking on it
[12:04] <th0r> markupdude: did you install swat along with samba?
[12:04] <luke__> hi
[12:04] <matreya6> userek, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt  <= See how you can download 4 different versions? (32bit desktp/ alternate and AMD64bit Desktop/ Alternae)
[12:04] <luke__> why is ubuntu so slow compared to windows xp?
[12:04] <markupdude> koshari1: rwx r-x r-x
[12:04] <userek> matreya6: alright, i'll see
[12:05] <luke__> are all linux OS like this or are there faster ones?
[12:05] <markupdude> so no writing for other users except the root
[12:05] <markupdude> koshari1: if i add 'root' as the new user in samba i can write to that hDD, but not a good thing u know
[12:05] <markupdude> th0r: swat, no i have not, should i ?
[12:05] <matreya6> luke_: I have yet to find a complete desktop OS that boots faster than Jaunty. WinXP takes more than 3x loading time until desktop is displayed on my box.
[12:06] <koshari1> markupdude the folder is only selected to let groups and users read that dir,
[12:06] <IDOC-7846> I've not found ubuntu to be slower than xp, personally. Matter of fact, it returns work units faster in folding@home than the same machine running XP does.
[12:06] <estan> Eevee: it was a problem with evince, printed fine in acrobat. thanks for the tip.
[12:06] <markupdude> koshari1: i have tried changing permissions and ownership it does let me do so
[12:06] <luke__> hmm i installed jaunty on ext4
[12:06] <th0r> markupdude: it makes configuring samba a lot easier. I was going to suggest you check the permissions of the shares in swat.
[12:06] <luke__> boot time was fine
[12:06] <luke__> but the desktop feels slow
[12:06] <luke__> not really snappy
[12:06] <FloodBot3> luke__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:06] <markupdude> koshari1: that HDD is formatted as fat
[12:07] <markupdude> th0r: ok will do so
[12:07] <userek> matreya6: though i don't see how the text mode installer would work better ;), i guess its a bug because after searching a bit there are people with the same issue, and they claim their cd's orked on other machines
[12:07] <Starcraftmazter> Hello. I can't seem to get apache/cgi/perl working, apache serves perl files in cgi-bin as text
[12:07] <IDOC-7846> Luke_,  perhaps your graphics arent up to par?
[12:07] <matreya6> luke_luke_: Try disabling some of the eyecandy, or look for an optimized graphical driver
[12:07] <lem_> anyone here tried to run ubuntu in a vm?
[12:07] <koshari1> markupdude what about the mount placeholder? (the foldername its mounted at?
[12:07] <luke__> firefox is horribly slow on ubuntu
[12:07] <koshari1> luke__ it flies here
[12:07] <koshari1> luke__ but i have a e2220 cpu
[12:07] <markupdude> koshari1: ah i was actually chaning permissions of the place holder all the time, that is /media/storage
[12:08] <matreya6> luke_: Firefox runs smooth here, on WinXP it takes longer to load.
[12:08] <markupdude> the actual drive is /dev/hda5
[12:08] <IDOC-7846> Luke_, I'm not having any of those problems. Did you do an upgrade to your latest version or a new install?
[12:08] <koshari1> markupdude there will be no permissians on the fat drive
[12:08] <markupdude> koshari1: should i change the actual thing's permission/ownership
[12:08] <markupdude> humm
[12:08] <markupdude> i should try that
[12:08] <lflashlnzl> why do i get such cr@p speeds on bit torrents
[12:08] <lflashlnzl> but in windows its fine!
[12:09] <koshari1> markupdude i think you should unmount the drive, chmod the mountpoint them mount it again
[12:09] <matreya6> userek, In that case the "bug" is tied to some aspect of your hardware. It runs (and installs) great on my box
[12:09] <Sebboh> Good morning.  I'm using the latest LiveCD installer (9.04 Desktop) and I'd like to use an expert installer.  How do I do that?
[12:09] <luke__> new install
[12:09] <matreya6> Sebboh, the Alternate version should give you all the options you want
[12:09] <harlemdavvey> does anybody use FluxBox?????
[12:09] <koshari1> markupdude test the permissians by writing to the folder ar a user rather than root
[12:09] <harlemdavvey> please i need some help with IRSSI
[12:10] <matreya6> harlemdavvey, Yes, I do, on my old P3-laptop, why?
[12:10] <IDOC-7846> thats the best thing to do, Luke_ . ive never had any problems when i do a fresh install. all problems ive encountered have always come from upgrading a distro.
[12:10] <harlemdavvey> matreya6: i absolutely need some help.. i cannot use it!:)
[12:10] <lianimator> harlemdavvey: #irssi?
[12:10] <userek> matreya6: so you say that if it works on your computer and doesn't on someone's else its not a bug?
[12:10] <proxxi>  /nick bittin
[12:10] <matreya6> harlemdavvey, did you try reading the manpages on the program?
[12:10] <natrixnatrix89> I'm just wondering.. If I have a partition with win and another partition with ubuntu. When I want to reinstall win - wouldn't it break the grub bootloader and would I loose ability to log on ubuntu?
[12:11] <harlemdavvey> guys none is answering there on the channel..
[12:11] <matreya6> natrixnatrix89, Yes, it would
[12:11] <natrixnatrix89> is there a solution?
[12:11] <matreya6> !patience > harlemdavvey
[12:11] <userek> its not the hardware that is buggy, its the software
[12:11] <natrixnatrix89> matreya6: is there a solution?
[12:12] <matreya6> natrixnatrix89, yes, you can just reinstall grub through a Live CD.
[12:12] <m3dlg> I screwed my graphics up and now when i boot it just flickers and the screen is filled with lines, before freezing. I wanted to reset the graphics to like new
[12:12] <koshari1> natrixnatrix89 you would jusr re-run grub from the live cd
[12:12] <matreya6> m3dlg, try booting from a live CD and fix your config files from there
[12:13] <natrixnatrix89> matreya6: and the ext3 filesystem would just work fine? thanks... cool! :)
[12:13] <gianluca> !it
[12:13] <sabayonweb_75208> are ultimate edition dead?
[12:13] <jorgerosa> Anyone to write articles (for free, for Ubuntu OS, for a website) about game reviews? Thanks in advance.
[12:13] <matreya6> natrixnatrix89, Of course it would, Ext3 is very stable.
[12:13] <koshari1> sabayonweb_ its called superOS now
[12:13] <natrixnatrix89> matreya6: thanks for info! ;)
[12:13] <NativeAngels> whats the min spec pc you can run a vps on
[12:14] <matreya6> jorgerosa, happypenguin is a treasure trove when it comes to game reveiws
[12:14] <jorgerosa> true
[12:14] <m3dlg> matreya6: i have the recovery option during boot and this looks like it's going to work, but i was finding my ati setting would not save and would default to single screen in clone mode (duelhead) everytime i rebooted.
[12:14] <sabayonweb_75208> koshari1: cant find it
[12:15] <jorgerosa> matreya6:  But its something (somehow) different
[12:16] <matreya6> jorgerosa, I don't see why we would need a game review specially geared towards a specific distro, like Ubuntu. But if you are trying to "sell" Ubuntu to gamers, than you'd have to investigate what appeals to your public , before writing a raging review about marvels like Globulation 2, Battle for Wesnoth and games like Fish Fillets (all great games)
[12:17] <koshari1> sabayonweb_75208 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SF007/Super_Ubuntu
[12:17] <zack> Battle for Wesnoth - epic
[12:17] <matreya6> m3dlg, did yu get an error message while trying to save your ATI settings?
[12:18] <jorgerosa> matreya6:  like i said, its a bit different, and "game reviews" is only one section. We will have many more.
[12:18] <sabayonweb_75208> koshari1: that looked, well boring... wanted to check out the design in ultimate :-P'
[12:18] <notguest> matreya6: zack jorgerosa: #ubuntu-gaming is dedicated to ubuntu gaming matters, if you want to join there
[12:18] <bassliner> hm, this really seems bugged, even completely reconfiguring evolution didn't help
[12:18] <matreya6> m3dlg, many config files are only writable as root, so using sudo when editing them might help ;-)
[12:18] <jorgerosa> notguest:  wow, i dunno that. Thanks, ill give a try :D
[12:19] <koshari1> sabayonweb its just a dizzy wiff a lot more packages on the disc by default
[12:19] <koshari1> sabayonweb what are you actually looking ofr?
[12:19] <koshari1> for?
[12:19] <C0dZ`Fr1> all
[12:20] <C0dZ`Fr1> irc.worldne.net
[12:20] <C0dZ`Fr1> #maxecurity
[12:20] <C0dZ`Fr1> irc.worldnet.net *
[12:20] <C0dZ`Fr1> http://maxecurity.Free.fr
[12:20] <sabayonweb_75208> koshari1: im using ubuntu right now on my own computer, wanted to try ultimate edition and sabayon
[12:20] <m3dlg> matreya6: no, i was finding that i would have to reset my setting on each boot. I used the same option i was recommended for a similar issue on this compouter (a netboot) the command was ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and this worked on the netbook, but has just made my pc worse
[12:21] <m3dlg> I suspected my issue was read/write permmissions - but not untill i had screwed it up
[12:21] <m3dlg> the fix xorg thing in recovery didn't work either
[12:21] <koshari1> sabayonweb well the user experiance for super os (prev known as ultimate) will be no diff to you installing all the packages yourself, as for sabyon go for it
[12:22] <Sebboh> matreya6, I see.  ..Uh, is there no way I can at least select which packages I want to install, on 9.04 Desktop installer?
[12:22] <dumb_dumb> guys any here could tell me how to install xen on ubuntu jaunty server edition?
[12:22] <markupdude> koshari1: sucks, as soon as i mount the drive the mount point becomes rwx r-x r-x again :( and i reverts back to root user even though i changed ownership to a non-root onr
[12:22] <sabayonweb_75208> :-D
[12:23] <koshari1> markupdude did you mount it with read write switches in the fstab entry?
[12:23] <markupdude> koshari1: just to confirm i can use other non-root user home folders, so this is
[12:23] <matreya6> Sebboh, I don't believe there is a way when it has started, but there might be a startup option to have everything installed manually, with all options open...Try looking at  the install option in the first menu...
[12:24] <markupdude> koshari1: i have this in fdtab to mount it on start /dev/sda5 /media/storage vfat users 0 0
[12:24] <markupdude> should that users part be something else
[12:24] <bubba> hi
[12:24] <koshari1> markupdude add the rw switch to mount it read/write.
[12:25] <markupdude> like /dev/sda5 /media/storage vfat users rw 0 0 ?
[12:25] <markupdude> or ..... rw users ....
[12:26] <matreya6> m3dlg, Did you do a clean install or an upgrade?
[12:26] <Sebboh> matreya6, there isn't an option like that available via a menu, although I wonder if I can manually type something in..  Oh well, I'll just download the alternate installer.  ..I just read that the regular installer CD doesn't offer ext4 filesystems, either.
[12:26] <m3dlg> matreya6: i'll get back to you when i've made a bootable flashdrive and try to recover it
[12:26] <shashwatpns> can any experienced person help me in installing windows after i ve installed ubuntu????
[12:26] <th0r> markupdude: I think there should be a comma 'rw,users'
[12:26] <m3dlg> matreya6: upgrade
[12:26] <markupdude> th0r: ah right
[12:27] <bubba> ping: unknown host... anyone has a solution for me?
[12:27] <markupdude> but this feels good, to be able to share files between my both PC
[12:27] <markupdude> i see linux actually expands my knowledge
[12:27] <th0r> bubba: use a good IP address or web address
[12:27] <bubba> i used google
[12:28] <matreya6> m3dlg, Some of these problems can be caused by conflicting settings from old versions. Is your display only unreadable under X, or is the regular console unreadable as well?
[12:28] <bubba> ping http://www.google.com
[12:28] <BurningSebra> anyone that can recomend me a program for ubuntu as DAEMON tools would work in windows?
[12:28] <th0r> bubba: nope....you can't ping the http....try ping google.com
[12:29] <Akallabeth> hi all
[12:29] <bubba> let me see
[12:29] <matreya6> shashwatpns, Do you have some unpartitioned space left on your HDD? Otherwise you need to create some using gparted.
[12:29] <m3dlg> matreya6: it works until the loading logo has reached the end and the screen changes to the desktop,
[12:29] <matreya6> BurningSebra, Yes, I use GCDEmu
[12:30] <bubba> it says 64bytes... and now its just looping. cant even stop it
[12:30] <BurningSebra> matreaya6: im gonna take a look, thx
[12:30] <koshari1> markupdude heres an example /dev/sda3 /mnt/WindowsFAT32 vfat quiet,defaults,rw 0 0
[12:30] <matreya6> m3dlg, In that case you can solve the problem in console mode, just drop to a terminal using Ctrl + Alt + F2 or so.
[12:30] <m3dlg> tryed that, but i'll try another reboot then let you know
[12:31] <m3dlg> i can get into consol via recovery and select consol with networking
[12:31] <matreya6> m3dlg, did you try to update your box after you have installed everything? Updates can go a long way in this.
[12:31] <bubba> thOr.. any thoughts?
[12:32] <m3dlg> the update was done after about 6 months of normal usage and was ok before (had some minor issues with graphics but nothing too serious)
[12:33] <Co_imot3> halo semua nya :D
[12:34] <shashwatpns> metreya6 : yes i do have
[12:34] <th0r> bubba: type control-C to stop it
[12:34] <Blodskur> I'm trying to remove a mount from the places menu with little success.
[12:34] <m3dlg> matreya6: should i try the 'netroot recovery option?
[12:34] <matreya6> BurningSebra, check out this pastebin to see what packages to use (output of apt-search cdemu on my box): http://www.pastebin.ca/1418180
[12:35] <th0r> bubba: then type 'man ping' to learn how to use ping
[12:35] <bubba> good man
[12:35] <BurningSebra> matreya6: not in repositories. im very new to ubuntu. if you could help me nistalling it i would apreciate it alot.
[12:36] <dumb_dumb> how to force rebooting on jaunty?
[12:36] <dumb_dumb> i used reboot it seems not working
[12:36] <HttpError> sudo shutdown NOW
[12:36] <HttpError> i think
[12:37] <markupdude> koshari1: umm tried using those fstab read write options, even after reboot no :(
[12:37] <znh> dumb_dumb, init 0
[12:37] <th0r> HttpError: it is shutdown -r to force a reboot
[12:37] <znh> dumb_dumb, that will shutdown though, not reboot
[12:37] <HttpError> ah
[12:37] <HttpError> ty th0r
[12:37] <dumb_dumb> i need to reboot the machine since not to poweroff
[12:37] <koshari1> markupdude  sorry mate beats me ?
[12:37] <matreya6> BurningSebra, did you enable all repositories (not only the Canonical supported ones)? You can also allow backports in your software sources through synaptic. That should give you access to the 8.10 package if it has been backported to Jaunty yet.
[12:38] <bubba> does a static ip address need to be configured both in the box and cable modem? I have my router configured with my static address and the box left with dhcp. Is that how it should be?
[12:38] <th0r> dumb_dumb: in a terminal type 'shutdown -r now' and it should reboot the computer
[12:38] <th0r> dumb_dumb: that is 'sudo shutdown -r now'
[12:38] <Severian> bubba, that is usually fine.
[12:39] <dumb_dumb> the system is going to reboot
[12:39] <bubba> usually meaning sometimes something can happen?
[12:39] <matreya6> Severian, bubba, a box with dhcp could be problematic when you want to run servers on your box through NAT.
[12:39] <dumb_dumb> but i still can connect to the box
[12:40] <bubba> thats what i figured. So should I configure em both with the static address or do the box and leave the modem dchp
[12:40] <markupdude> koshari1: no worries, as last resort i might have to use root user, no harm though, its only me as the user.. btw what to i type to check currently mounted stuffs
[12:40] <shashwatpns> has anyone here installed windows after ubuntu if u have please guide me
[12:40] <Severian> matreya6, yep.  I did say usually.  If the router is going to need to forward traffic to your box that is initiated from outside, a static IP may be needed.  But, most people don't do that.
[12:40] <BurningSebra> matreya6: i se the names, but where do i find these packages? synaptic package manager does not find the packages
[12:41] <chouchou> Hello, I don't know what I am doing wrong, I have install joomla on my hosting server http://www.wamphi.com/pairjobs the script run correctly there, but when I run the same script on my local PC using Ubuntu, php5.2 I have fatal error, undefined functions. I even switch register global on. but later turned it back off. what do need to install or configure to solve this issue?
[12:41] <th0r> shashwatpns: you will lose grub if you reinstall windows AFTER linux. There is a way to reinstall grub, but it isn't easy
[12:41] <matreya6> BurningSebra, did you try reloading the repository in Synaptic after you have added the backports option?
[12:41] <dumb_dumb> any idea how can this thing not rebooting
[12:41] <bubba> ok thanks
[12:43] <markupdude> how do i check currently mounted drives?
[12:43] <shashwatpns> th0r: im havin probs while installing windows
[12:43] <th0r> markupdude: mount
[12:43] <BurningSebra> matreya6: just did and i do the search on names and descriptions and nothing comes up on libmirage1
[12:43] <Barbarella> markupdude:df -h
[12:43] <matreya6> dumb_dumb, If you are onsite next to the box you can try a "sudo shutdown -h now" instead, if you are connecting remotely, *don't do this!*
[12:43] <th0r> shashwatpns: you will lose linux if you install windows after linux
[12:44] <shashwatpns> th0r: ill reinstall it
[12:44] <chouchou> anyone have idea about my situation please?
[12:44] <leaphion> is here anyone awake using ubuntustudio? seems like the ubuntustudio irc-channel has died. I'm having problem with seq24, it doesn't let me do a new midi-sequence.
[12:44] <xevil> does anyone know how to change the font in Google Earth's menu bars?  I found how to change the font sizes on the map itself, but the menu bars and tabs just cross your eyes up!
[12:44] <matreya6> BurningSebra, libmirage1, is not the most important thing, it is just an option with cdemu. Please keep in mind that this *is Beta* software, until it has worked without a hitch for me
[12:44] <markupdude> if i format my second hdd as ext3 i won't able to edit/write to it from windows via samba right?
[12:45] <BurningSebra> matreya6: gonna check out the toher stuff, thx so far :)
[12:45] <th0r> markupdude: you should be able to write to an ext3 drive via samba from anything
[12:46] <Severian> markupdude, No problem doing that, actually.
[12:46] <matreya6> BurningSebra, here's the homepage for cdemu: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[12:46] <markupdude> th0r: ah! then i might expect my permission problems solved?
[12:46] <m3dlg> matreya6: i'm just downloading the iso of ubuntu so i can make a bootable drive to use a gui - i cant handle the console too much at the moment
[12:46] <markupdude> oh btw i used gparted to partitio my extra HDD, first made the unpartitioned space as a secondary drive, it became hda1, and a hda5 came up, i made that sda5 as a logical fat partition, did i do it right?
[12:47] <Severian> markupdude, I don't know the problem, so I won't comment.
[12:47] <markupdude> or else i can redo it like delete everything, make the entire drive a primary partiton ext3
[12:47] <shashwatpns> tor0: can you help me
[12:47] <matreya6> BurningSebra, here's the Ubuntu repositories (keep in mind that the 64-bits version is not supported yet, allthough I *do* run it) :http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[12:47] <th0r> shashwatpns: you will have to find a windows irc channel for help reinstalling window
[12:47] <markupdude> Severian: i am not able to write to that extra hdd from my windows XP, i set permissions via fstab, but it rverts back to unwritable by non-root user as soon as i share it via samba
[12:48] <markupdude> Severian: if i made sense
[12:48] <matreya6> BurningSebra, sorry, last link should have been: https://launchpad.net/~cdemu/+archive/ppa
[12:48] <th0r> markupdude: that sounds like a permissions issue in samba, not in the os
[12:48] <markupdude> th0r: humm... so how do i?
[12:49] <th0r> markupdude: I used to share a vfat drive on a linux machine via samba, so I know it can be done
[12:49] <markupdude> should adding it like a share in smb.conf helo
[12:49] <markupdude> i tried that also, i can try again with right parameters
[12:49] <matreya6> m3dlg, I'am sorry to say this, but if you have problems using X due to a faulty graphics driver, the console, or terminal is essential to fix it.
[12:49] <th0r> markupdude: yes, you add it as a share in samba. I have used swat to configure samba since I first found swat....so I can't help much with the conf file directly
[12:50] <markupdude> th0r: ah then i have swat installed let me see
[12:50] <Severian> markupdude, not really.  The setup you describe is common.  People mount filesystems on Linux, share them with Samba and write to them from Windows all the time.  I use to do it when I had Windows here.  I used XFS and not ext3, but that is not an important distinction.
[12:51] <Cantcme> hey everyone
[12:51] <matreya6> Cantcme, hello what do you want to know?
[12:51] <Cantcme> well, im having a little problem
[12:51] <markupdude> th0r: ah i am stupid where do i find swat now that i have it installed :P
[12:51] <Cantcme> new ubuntu user
[12:52] <th0r> markupdude: it is accessed as a web page....localhost:901
[12:52] <matreya6> markupdude, in synaptic, you can see every file that a package has installed for you.
[12:52] <xevil> Cantcme: ask your ?
[12:52] <Severian> markupdude,   http://localhost:901
[12:52] <Cantcme> i updated my alsa to version 1.0.20 from 1.0.18, everything was fine, then i updated OSS to 4.1 and i have no sound now :(
[12:53] <matreya6> Cantcme, OSS is quite outdated, you can configure your Ubuntu to use ALSA instead.
[12:54] <Cantcme> i went to system -> preferences -> sound and chose ALSA for everything and it still doesn't work
[12:54] <Cantcme> and aplay -l gives aplay: device_list:217: no soundcards found...
[12:55] <matreya6> Cantcme, what is the output of lspci | grep -i audio?
[12:55] <m3dlg> matreya6: i was hoping to swap the settings file with the old back-up while in a live disk
[12:55] <Cantcme> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[12:55] <Cantcme> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]
[12:55] <th0r> Cantcme: this might help....http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[12:56] <matreya6> m3dlg, that could work if the settings correspond to the driver you have installed.
[12:57] <markupdude> Severian: i see the SWAT page now, but what do i can confugre here, i see all documentations here
[12:57] <m3dlg> when i screwed it up it did back up the old file and appended the date to it
[12:58] <matreya6> Cantcme, managing 2 soundcards is finnicky in ubuntu and in Linux in general. The link that th0r gave you seems like a good point to start...
[12:58] <Cantcme> ive pretty much done all that from that link
[12:58] <Cantcme> but i only wany the Intel sound card to work, i dont want the sound from my graphics card
[12:58] <th0r> markupdude: you can only configure samba via swat if you are logged into swat as root. Unfortunately I can't tell you how to do that here
[12:59] <Severian> markupdude, I don't use swat.  I can't help you much there.  I just edit the config file directly.    /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:59] <Paulo39> i have a disk with a partition of 150Gb in ext3, another partition of 3Gb in linux-swap and 100Gb unallocated. if i install windows, it will format just that space unallocated or it will erase and format all the disk?
[12:59] <matreya6> m3dlg, try to copy the file with the date appended to it to the config file ehere thing are in a jumble.
[12:59] <Cantcme> i think the problem lies here
[12:59] <Cantcme> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[12:59] <Cantcme> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82fe
[12:59] <Cantcme> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22
[12:59] <Cantcme> 	Memory at fe7f8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[12:59] <FloodBot3> Cantcme: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <Cantcme> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[12:59] <Barbarella> markupdude:need some help with smb.conf?
[12:59] <matreya6> m3dlg, sorry about the last chars:, should be: "where things are in a jumble"
[13:00] <Paulo39> i have, before install windows, format that unallocated space to ntfs? and just then install windows?
[13:00] <Cantcme> sorry about flood
[13:00] <Cantcme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/168716/
[13:00] <Fzang> wait, I have to move the slider to the left to give ubuntu space?
[13:00] <Fzang> I totally don't get the partitioner
[13:00] <Cantcme> see how it says kernel drive in use: oss_hdaudio, shouldnt that be something else?
[13:01] <markupdude> Barbarella: ah yes please :)
[13:01] <Cantcme> that was lspci -v
[13:01] <markupdude> so far i have my home folders shared
[13:01] <Barbarella> what do you want to share
[13:01] <markupdude> now just need to add my /dev/hda5 as a share Barbarella
[13:01] <eshat> Hi all,... what is the sed command, to remove the first 5 letters, if string begins with 0-9 ?
[13:01] <matreya6> Cantcme, it still seems to use OSS: Kernel driver in use: oss_hdaudio
[13:01] <Barbarella> markupdude:ok
[13:01] <markupdude> so should i give the original path or the mount point Barbarella
[13:01] <m3dlg> matreya6: ok will try that, i'll obviously try to back up the duff one to to examine after
[13:02] <Cantcme> matreya6, yeh is that the problem? shouldn't it be the ALSA driver or something thats in use?
[13:02] <matreya6> m3dlg, sounds like a smart thing to do :-)
[13:02] <Fzang> if I want to install ubuntu, how should / and swap be? logical or primary?
[13:02] <Fzang> and should I take start or end of partition? (is that left/right alignment on the table?)
[13:02] <matreya6> Cantcme, some old programs still use OSS. I think ALSA has some kind of bridge for it, can't remember the name though :-(
[13:03] <Cantcme> yeh i install the alsa-oss wrapper
[13:03] <Cantcme> also when i run alsa-mixer there are no controls in it
[13:04] <matreya6> Fzang, logical is usually the most flexible option, End of partition is mostly the best choice for maintaining compatibility with older Windows versions
[13:04] <Severian> Cantcme, That means there are no audio devices that also controls.
[13:04] <m3dlg> matreya6: i will stay here while i do this, i just wanted to say i appreciate your help, very kind and a big thank you, i also understand and appreciate you are busy helping others too, and all this unpaid. it's a really kind thing to do, i also have help others with things i have learned as a part of my own development in linux when there was no-one else able to help. i am ultamately still a noobie here.
[13:04] <Cantcme> Severian, how can i change that?
[13:04] <Guest27062> kick me!
[13:05] <Guest27062> kick me!
[13:05] <vertagano> bluetooth-wizard never shows any devices; hcitool from the commandline does. Nautilus no longer allows me to connect to my bluetooth devices with obex://[address]  How can I use a GUI to browse and retrieve files?
[13:05] <Guest27062> kick me!
[13:05] <Guest27062> kick me!
[13:05] <FloodBot3> Guest27062: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <m3dlg> matreya6: where is the video setting file? i cant remember! :)
[13:06] <Cantcme> /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[13:06] <matreya6> Cantcme, did you try both "alsamixer -c0" and "alsamixer -c1" ? One of these commands should give you some sliders. That way you know which Audio card ALSA picks as default one.
[13:06] <Severian> Cantcme, I don't have a quick answer for you.  Basically, you need to load drivers so alsa can control your audio.
[13:06] <m3dlg> thanks cantcme
[13:06] <_spektre> how do I start gnome-session in another language without gdm?
[13:06] <mischief6> hey, can anyone tell me if ubuntu plans to have a release with a freebsd kernel like debian?
[13:07] <jophish> I'm going to be reinstalling ubuntu soon. Is it wise to go with ext4?
[13:07] <Cantcme> matreya6, those commands didnt work
[13:07] <ienorand> mischief6: not likely in the overviewable future I don't think.
[13:07] <Cantcme> Severian, i tried modprobe snd-hda-intel and it doesnt work
[13:08] <matreya6> m3dlg, try this link: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/02/04/get-to-know-linux-understanding-xorgconf/
[13:08] <matreya6> m3dlg, You can find out where xorg.conf is by usiing locate xorg.conf
[13:09] <Alexia_Death> can somebody tell me what handles fan control for laptops?
[13:09] <Alexia_Death> it isnt acpi, because the foldersunder proc are empty
[13:09] <aar> Hi, I've just connected my phone through the usb port, but the software (moto4lin) can't find the device. Is there a command I could use to find the path for the device linked with my phone in the system?
[13:09] <znh> Alexia_Death, possibly APM
[13:10] <m3dlg> matreya6: i have it, but i need to get root permission to alter it, and i am using mint linux live as my ubuntu disk would not run (i also needed to do this from a portable dvdreader too!!) my bios refused to see anyother  disks for some reason
[13:10] <Alexia_Death> znh: its a laptop
[13:10] <Cantcme> m3dlg, sudo -i for root
[13:10] <Twigathy_> w/ 35
[13:10] <Twigathy_> no
[13:10] <th0r> aar: open a terminal, type 'tail -f /var/log/messages' then plug in the phone. You should see the mount point for the device show up as the system recognizes it
[13:10] <znh> Alexia_Death, yeah.. you made that clear a few sec ago too
[13:11] <matreya6> m3dlg, try to edit it as root using sudo or the method suggested by the Mint Live CD. I have no experience using Mint
[13:11] <Alexia_Death> and after some recent update the fans are not spun up enaugh enay mor
[13:11] <Alexia_Death> the laptop overheats and shuts down.
[13:11] <m3dlg> it feels muchg like ubuntu, nice touch in the file menu it has open folder as root option and the folder turns red to warn u
[13:11] <Severian> Cantme, sound has always worked fine for me on Ubuntu, except for a few systems where I had to add a module with modprobe.  I don't know what else to suggest.  If it was me, I would probably try installing Fedora or Puppy linux and seeing if sound worked.  Once I saw if they did any special configuration, I would reinstall Ubuntu and see if I could do the same thing here.  There may be simpler solutions, but I am not familiar with
[13:11] <Severian>  them.
[13:12] <aar> th0r, this is what i get: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 14
[13:12] <matreya6> m3dlg, just like in good old Suse 6.4 :-)
[13:12] <Cantcme> Severian, my sound was working perfectly untill i updated OSS to 4.1
[13:12] <aar> th0r, cdc_acm 4-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[13:12] <m3dlg> i actually liked what i saw
[13:12] <th0r> aar: the device is mapped as ttyACM0
[13:12] <m3dlg> just booting now, and i'll have to alter my settings manually
[13:12] <m3dlg> as root to fix the original problem, :)
[13:12] <matreya6> Cantcme, in that case, why don't you just rollback to the previous OSS version?
[13:13] <aar> th0r, so this should be the path: /dev/ttyACM0 ?
[13:13] <th0r> aar: I think that will work...I am not familiar with mot4lin
[13:13] <aar> th0r, I'll try that, thanks
[13:13] <Cantcme> matreya6, hmm good point lol, is there an easy to way to do it or should i just install the older version from synaptic
[13:14] <matreya6> Cantcme, synaptic would be the safest way to do this ;-)
[13:14] <aar> th0r, excellent -- it works!
[13:14] <Cantcme> thanks for all the help matreya6 and Severian
[13:14] <Severian> Cantme, you probably have to uninstall the new version, then reinstall the old version.
[13:14] <matreya6> Cantcme, don't mention it, have nice sound carpet ;-)
[13:15] <Severian> Cantme, the biggest problem will be dependancies.  Make a not of anything being removed when you reinstall the new OSS, so you can put them back.
[13:15] <matreya6> matreya6, :-/ lag in IRC... Well, spelling errors are not too bad if you can still understand each other.
[13:16] <frullet> here is a typical ubuntu user in all their glory http://glitchtown.com/comics/2009-03-20.png
[13:16] <Cantcme> yeh i know when ALSA gets remove it removes gdm too
[13:17] <xing_> how to use the i810 driver instead of intel in 9.04?
[13:17] <m3dlg> matreya6:  it didn't work, i have to help the missis for a few minutes, i'll be back with a mug of tea and a clear head and i'll give it another go,
[13:17] <Severian> Cantme, I hope nothing like gnome gets removed.  Don't let it take out too much.
[13:17] <matreya6> m3dlg, good luck (and give a kiss to your missis ;-) )
[13:17] <m3dlg> lol
[13:18] <Cantcme> Severian, matreya6, btw this is the reason that i updated OSS http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7243609#post7243609
[13:19] <Severian> Cantme, OK, so you wanted no sound.
[13:19] <Cantcme> na basically ALSA made counter strike source crash, and the old OSS drivers didnt provide any sound
[13:20] <matreya6> Cantcme, ah, CounterStrike, well...it's alway risky to install programs, *but especially driver versions* not endorsed by the distro.
[13:20] <Cantcme> so i decided to update OSS, i can get sound in counter strike now with OSS but its all crackled and stuff, and nothing else has sound
[13:20] <Severian> Cantme, the thread does not show that the new OSS made the sound come back.  But, you may know that from some other source.
[13:20] <Cantcme> i posted that thread :P
[13:20] <matreya6> Cantcme, crackled eh? Did you try a killall Pulseaudio?
[13:21] <vertagano> Cantcme: Have you tried re-installed ALSA and then restarting?
[13:21] <Severian> Cantme, Well, good luck.
[13:21] <Cantcme> haven't tried kill pulseaudion
[13:21] <Cantcme> and vertagano, only about 5 times lol
[13:21] <Cantcme> thanks :P
[13:21] <axel_> Hello! I've some problems with netbook remix: When switching the desktop mode from "classical desktop" to "Ubuntu-Netbook-Desktop" the GNOME panels remain displayed and are layed over the "netbook interface". How to fix that?
[13:22] <matreya6> Cantcme, Pulseaudio can interfere with a lot, although it does have it's perks when installed and configured properly.
[13:22] <vertagano> Cantcme: When you restart ALSA (   sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart  ) do you receive any error messages?
[13:22] <matreya6> vertagano, ALSA restart hasn't worked in years...
[13:22] <Cantcme> na no errors
[13:23] <vertagano> matreya6: That's odd...it's always worked fine for me.
[13:24] <QueenInfamous> Hi guys
[13:24] <matreya6> vertagano, maybe because I upgraded instead of a clean install...
[13:24] <QueenInfamous> I just installed ubuntu and I need some help :)
[13:24] <matreya6> QueenInfamous, just ask your question please
[13:24] <QueenInfamous> ah great :)
[13:24] <QueenInfamous> i'm trying to install my nvidia driver
[13:24] <QueenInfamous> but it's says something about an X file
[13:24] <pIsIq> why i cant open a picture on http://localhost  ?
[13:24] <pIsIq> You don't have permission to access /home.jpg on this server.
[13:24] <eni> has anyone used the notebook mix in 9.04 ?
[13:24] <matreya6> QueenInfamous, use the Hardware Drivers under the system menu
[13:25] <vertagano> Cantcme: And in System -> Preferences -> Sounds, you've selected ALSA for everything?
[13:25] <Cantcme> vertagano, yep
[13:25] <QueenInfamous> matreya6: is that under the Preferences or administrator menu?
[13:25] <jophish> I'm going to be reinstalling ubuntu soon. Is it wise to go with ext4?
[13:25] <Cantcme> although when i run sudo alsa force-reload i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/168727/
[13:25] <chaosphere> Hi. I tried to resize my root partition. After rebooting, 'df -h' shows no difference. gparted lists the partition as larger but there's no more space available. fsck.ext3 reports one large file. but i can't find one using 'find /media/sda2/ -size +2G -ls'. debugfs shows 'Size: 4299210752' when running 'stat <7>' (the resize inode). Does anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[13:25] <TIRC_4794> ciao
[13:25] <matreya6> QueenInfamous, That would be Administrator.
[13:25] <TIRC_4794> !list
[13:26] <QueenInfamous> thanks!
[13:26] <raven_> where can i find the GPODDER config file/podcast register - need it for a manually backup - tnx
[13:26] <JEEBcz> Hello there. is there an easy way of changing the currently used ubuntu mirrors via command-line? I'm on 9.04.
[13:26] <pIsIq> why i cant open a picture on http://localhost  ? You don't have permission to access /home.jpg on this server.
[13:27] <chronographer> anyone got the prob with deluge ppa?
[13:28] <matreya6> QueenInfamous, if you need to run a visual program as root, just edit the menu entry under Pereferences and prefix gksudo to it. Remember that you will have escalated rights from that moment, so don't delete/ overwrite anything you don't want to delete ;-)
[13:30] <raven_> how can i backup the GPODDER podcast register manually?
[13:30] <vero> vero
[13:30] <matreya6> !rights > pIsIq,
[13:30] <vero> Bonjour, quelqu'un peut-il me dire comment lire des fichiers pps avec ubuntu
[13:30] <raven_> lol
[13:30] <nightrid3r> !fr | vero
[13:30] <matreya6> !francais > vero
[13:31] <matreya6> pIsIq, Do you know the concept of Unix file permissions?
[13:31] <matreya6> !permissions
[13:32] <chazco> Hi... i've created a bash script using Zenity to display a tray icon... is there anyway to allow right click menus with this icon?
[13:32] <vertagano> Cantcme: What does    ` aplay -l ` give you?
[13:33] <Cantcme> aplay: device_list:217: no soundcards found...
[13:33] <eni> can i get back the old look of ubuntu (i'm using the notebook remix.. but this kinda sux :/ ) ??
[13:34] <vertagano> Cantcme: How about  ` sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel `
[13:34] <nmvictor> How would one add a user to admin groutp in the terminal?
[13:34] <bassliner> chazco: i think you can just create a notification that will appear within the taskbar notification area.
[13:34] <matreya6> eni, you can choose any theme you want. Gnome is quite configurable
[13:34] <chazco> bassliner - Ah okay, was hoping to add more options to it
[13:34] <eni> matreya6, there is no normal gnome in the notebook-remix of 9.04
[13:34] <Cantcme> vertagano, http://paste.ubuntu.com/168736/
[13:35] <eni> matreya6, have you used it ?
[13:35] <QueenInfamous> How can I customize and add more effects to my desktop?
[13:35] <nourredin> QueenInfamous: : vista
[13:35] <bassliner> nmvictor: useradd -G group usernamer
[13:35] <bassliner> -r
[13:36] <QueenInfamous> I'm using ubuntu with gnome
[13:36] <bassliner> nmvictor: don't forget to prepend the sudo :)
[13:36] <matreya6> eni, ah, it's using XFCE...Nice desktop BTW. You can just install the package ubuntu-desktop, but it brings a sh*tload of other packages with it.
[13:36] <nourredin> system->preferences-> special effects
[13:36] <nourredin> system->preferences-> appearance->special effects
[13:36] <matreya6> hehe
[13:36] <eni> matreya6, nice desktop ? wtf... ok, i'll just install ubuntu-desktop i think.
[13:37] <bassliner> xfce is awesome.
[13:37] <QueenInfamous> matreya6: , you have any ideas? XDD
[13:37] <bassliner> tho there are some changes coming with 4.6 that could be a pain in the ass for a newbie.
[13:37] <nmvictor> bassline :thanks alot.Is their a tutorial about that?
[13:38] <matreya6> eni, I meant to say that I like XFCE as a lean and clean desktop environment. Though you might try IceWM if you want speed and don't mind über-ugly themes >:-)
[13:38] <vertagano> Cantcme: What do you get from ` groups `
[13:38] <Cantcme> vertagano, sumsha adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[13:38] <rastaspirit> slt ya kelkun?
[13:38] <vertagano> Cantcme: Try joining the audio group;   usermod -a -G audio <username>
[13:38] <bassliner> matreya6: are you sure icewm is more performant than xfce? :)
[13:38] <eni> matreya6, right now i'm on fluxbox, (and i've always used fluxbox), but anyways this is not running super-fast. (i think 9.04 doesnt support ATI)
[13:39] <matreya6> QueenInfamous, sorry, I'am not into eyecandy myself, so I have never investigated it.
[13:39] <vertagano> Cantcme: Then log out and log back in.
[13:39] <userek> gee
[13:39] <Cantcme> vertagano, thanks, brb ill logout and come back in here
[13:39] <bassliner> sus
[13:39] <userek> i managed to install 8.10 instead but the network manager is driving me nuts
[13:39] <rastaspirit> je recherhce de l aide par des francais ci possible
[13:39] <matreya6> eni, that would be a very bold statement to make, usually driver dependenies lie upstream, tied to the Xorg version rather than the distro
[13:40] <vertagano> userek: I'm with you there. I always remove the network manager.
[13:40] <nmvictor> userek:what do you mean?
[13:40] <QueenInfamous> How can I forceclose a program?
[13:40] <eni> matreya6, well i read somewhere that my 9.04 wont work with my graphic card so :( !!
[13:40] <userek> i'm unable to configure wired network because it always uses some kind of automatic dhcp connection
[13:40] <bassliner> userek: on a cable connected box, i would probably just not use it
[13:40] <vertagano> QueenInfamous: ` sudo killall <name> ` will kill all programs with that name.
[13:40] <matreya6> bassliner, IceWM does have smaller memory footprint, but sadly I couldn't find any theme for it that didn't hurt my eyes.
[13:40] <maltonic> hello, i ` m having problems with an old pinnacle tv card and tvtime, computer is freezing after (immediately until several minutes). using ubuntu . can anyone help?
[13:41] <bassliner> QueenInfamous: pkill program, killall program, if you REALLY want to cut it's throat: killall -9 program
[13:41] <maltonic> (when i start tvtime)
[13:41] <bassliner> matreya6: hehe
[13:41] <nmvictor> QueenInfamous:you got to get some light tut,think you are new.Check a PM i sent you
[13:41] <bassliner> matreya6: yeh, icewm themes suck.
[13:41] <userek> i've added new connection and removed 'auto eth0' but there is no my connection on the list when i click on it in the taskbar
[13:41] <setuid> I just installed Jaunty on my laptop yesterday, and it was working fine, and now it's cascading failures everywhere. For example, when I log in, I get GNOME + sawfish (my preference), but...
[13:42] <bassliner> matreya6: the thing i really find aesthetically beautiful is fluxbox with 2 custom styles i made
[13:42] <stefano> salve a tutti
[13:42] <setuid> ... my font sizes are HUGE, until I go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance and CHANGE NOTHING... they just "fix themselves"
[13:42] <stefano> !list
[13:42] <tuzakey> QueenInfamous: I think this might be what you want for the desktop effects stuff: apt://compizconfig-settings-manager it will add a new entry to System-->Preferences
[13:42] <nmvictor> QueenInfamous:their is a panel aplet that can do that well or you can use the terminal
[13:42] <bassliner> matreya6: http://arje.de/fluxbox.png
[13:42] <matreya6> bassliner, I'm tempted to design a good theme for it myself, as I do like the general concept of IceWM as an easy transition from Windows for senior (read: geriatric) users
[13:42] <userek> stom connection
[13:42] <Cantcme> vertagano, sound still doesn't work :(
[13:42] <userek> *there is no my custom connection, any ideas why?
[13:43] <setuid> Wireless is a lost-cause with Jaunty, I have to log in, then it connects to my WAP, then I have to edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand and remove the invalid IPs it puts in, put in the right gateway, and then do a 'route del default && route add default gw 10.0.1.1'
[13:43] <tuzakey> QueenInfamous: you can break stuff in that compiz config app, so be careful
[13:43] <guja> How to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10?
[13:43] <bassliner> matreya6: this should be no reason at all. try to get used to something but forget damn windows.
[13:43] <setuid> That gets wireless up, but that's broken too, because wifi only works when I'm logged in as a user. That's retarded. If I log out, the connection goes away. Why?
[13:43] <userek> guja: why do you want to downgrade? i'm going to do the oposite actually ;)
[13:43] <bassliner> setuid: because network manager is retarded.
[13:43] <matreya6> bassliner, I do like fluxbox, it's very techy and blazingly fast even on my old P3 lappy. :-D
[13:43] <setuid> Shouldn't this be a no-brainer?
[13:44] <bassliner> setuid: if you want to avoid that, make your changes to the network settings from the commandline and know your toys.
[13:44] <bassliner> it should.
[13:44] <setuid> bassliner, Right, so why does nm continue to put garbage IPs and routes into the config when it connects to my WAP?
[13:44] <guja> userek: xf86-video-intel has bugs with qt apps in 9.04. Worked fine in 8.10. With kde, eveything is qt related. That's why.
[13:44] <vertagano> Cantcme: STill no devices on aplay -l
[13:44] <bassliner> matreya6: i indeed love performant things.
[13:44] <maltonic> TVTIME FREEZING PROBLEM. Can anyone help?
[13:44] <Cantcme> yeh same error as before, no soundcards
[13:44] <bassliner> setuid: no idea
[13:44] <userek> i see, fortuneatly i've ati onboard card ;)
[13:44] <QueenInfamous> hmm
[13:45] <setuid> The "locale" problem has been in Ubuntu for at least 5 years. Has nobody really solved that yet? That's nuts!
[13:45] <vertagano> Cantcme: How about  ` sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel `; it still give you the same error?
[13:45] <matreya6> bassliner, about the last comment about "forget that damn Windows', that's a bit brusque when talking to a venerable 90-year old who has started using computers when he was 72(!)
[13:45] <bassliner> setuid: well networkmanager just uses dhcp, if you tive out garbage settings via dhcp it will use them.
[13:45] <QueenInfamous> Can someone offer me a good music/video player for ubuntu? :/
[13:45] <Cantcme> vertagano, yep :(
[13:45] <QueenInfamous> since i'm totally new right now
[13:45] <bassliner> matreya6: i doubt you're 90 right :)
[13:45] <userek> bassliner: how to make it NOT use dhcp, because i'm kinda unable to!
[13:46] <setuid> bassliner, nm ignores anything I put in the applet. I've defined my NIC as static, with correct routes, dns, etc. and it puts shit in there anyway. Where it gets it, I have no idea.
[13:46] <bassliner> userek: you can define a static ip for a wlan profile i bet in network manager
[13:46] <guja> Anyone knows how to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10?
[13:46] <bassliner> setuid: hmmm...
[13:46] <fornix_> i stopped using network manager. Any one did the same?
[13:46] <tuzakey> QueenInfamous: I like xine and vlc apt://xine-ui and vlc apt://vlc
[13:47] <matreya6> basliner, I am not 90 but my grandpa is...The only way to get him to abandon Windows is to provide him with a smooth transition. He is already using Firefox and Thunderbird, but he still uses Word. I have great respect for him that he has managed to learn it at his age and overall he is doing remarkably well.
[13:47] <Dealer> anyone can gimme a pointer or an url to how I can stream movies and music from my ubuntu on my xbox ?
[13:47] <setuid> When I edit the wifi connection in the applet, for example to set the "Enable for all users" option, the "Apply" button goes from green to one with two keys on it, and I can click it, but it does nothing. I can't save those prefs.
[13:47] <bassliner> fornix_: shitload of ppl have burned it
[13:47] <Cantcme> Dealer, tried tversity through wine?
[13:47] <bassliner> fornix_: because they're unsatisfied with the way it works
[13:47] <Dealer> Cantcme, no, only tryed google so far;) but thanks, I'll look in to it =)
[13:47] <setuid> The whole nm thing is a joke... it shouldn't be this hard. I shouldn't have to set my connection in there, then let it do its dance, and then UNDO most of that from the shell, manually, every time I log in.
[13:48] <fornix_> oh. thank god i am not the only one. i was feeling guilty
[13:48] <Bman> Hi. I need to change my keyboard settings so I can use the at sign, and stuff like that onder the 1234.. numbers.. by using ctrl alt.. can someone help me? Dunno how to manage it. azerty keyboard btw
[13:48] <tuzakey> Dealer: http://ushare.geexbox.org/
[13:48] <matreya6> fornix_, here's another one with two NIC's that removed Network Manager. Autoconfiguration drove me crazy, because it created hindrances instead of a smooth "just works" config.
[13:49] <Dealer> tuzakey, thanks.
[13:49] <tuzakey> Dealer: I haven't been able to make ushare stream my music library correctly, I have some other java based DLNA app for that (can't remember the name of it off hand and its on a different computer)
[13:50] <eni> matreya6, 	X Server 1.6 support, Ubuntu 9.04 support. Dropped support for older GPUs (R300 to R500).  source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fglrx
[13:50] <matreya6> Bman, you can configre dead keys at "layout options" from Preferences => Keyboard
[13:50] <eni> now i can say ubuntu does suck.
[13:50] <Dealer> tuzakey, mainly movies I wanna stream, music I got Spotify for, and got direct connection to amplefyer ;)
[13:50] <tuzakey> Dealer: ushare is packaged in ubuntu universe
[13:51] <setuid_> goddamnit
[13:51] <setuid_> Why, after 5+ years, can't Ubuntu figure out how to properly configure and maintain wireless settings?!
[13:51] <tuzakey> Dealer: ushare works great for video, just remember to pass the xbox command line option
[13:51] <Bman> matreya6, and what do i have to do there to make ctrl alt work fine with that at sign and the other? cause already looked there..
[13:51] <matreya6> eni, don't take it out on Ubuntu, just install a backport. But hey, if you don't like Ubuntu nobody will kill you over that, just choose a distro that suits your needs
[13:51] <setuid_> This is ridiculous
[13:51] <setuid_> I've spent over 4 days on this one broken aspect of the distro alone
[13:51] <QueenInfamous> guys
[13:51] <Sedna> -
[13:51] <Dealer> tuzakey, thanks ;)
[13:51] <jrib> setuid_: do you have a support question?  If so please just ask it.  Otherwise, feel free to contribute....
[13:51] <eni> matreya6, i've used ubuntu for years now, i just dont like the 'wont support your card anymore' just like that.
[13:52] <QueenInfamous> Any idea how can I make my main icons down on the dekstop like at this screen right here http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/608/screenshothqv.png ?
[13:52] <setuid_> jrib, My support questions are above...
[13:52] <jrib> setuid_: That's fine.  Note the word "just"
[13:52] <setuid_> jrib, wireless is broken, nm-applet is useless, settings are applied incorrectly/ignored, and it's tremendously unstable/fragile, once set.
[13:52] <pauwels_> Hey ppl!
[13:53] <setuid_> jrib, I'm all ears, but I've been over this a thousand times in the last 4 days. Wireless and Ubuntu do not get along, using the default tools.
[13:53] <matreya6> eni, Sometimes a distro has to make compromises, managing effort and choosing priorities. Unfortunately you card lucked out. But that doesn't mean you can't install drivers manually. It's just a bigger hassle
[13:53] <jrib> setuid_: that's fine.  But this is a support channel.  So take the rants elsewhere please.  You make it harder for everyone else to get help
[13:53] <pauwels_> ive got a problem with my audio configuration.. i just get one channel.. (stereo only left :(  ) , so how can i "reset " my audio config
[13:53] <pauwels_> can someone help me with this ? :-)
[13:54] <eni> matreya6, :( can you give me a hint how to install that manually?
[13:54] <matreya6> !patience | pauwels_
[13:54] <setuid_> jrib, Ok, I'll phrase my problems in the form of a question: How do I correctly configure wireless networking in Ubuntu, so the settings are correctly applied and saved?
[13:54] <setuid_> nm-applet is apparently not the tool to achieve this milestone
[13:54] <deany> nm wouldnt save the WPA password prooperly, and saved it as one long hex string all the time, so wouldnt connect...turned out it wanted a WPA2 password.. there aint any settings to choose one of the other, it aks for WPA or WPA2 passowrd.. upgraded my router that gave it wpa2 functions and the rest is history.
[13:54] <jrib> setuid_: you should probably explain what you did, what happened, and what you expected to happen
[13:54] <walrus_> Hey! How can I check what catalyst version is currently installed by default on a fresh 9.04 install?
[13:54] <matreya6> eni, have you checked out backports firsts? That would be your safest bet.
[13:55] <matreya6> brb, grabbing a bite
[13:55] <jrib> walrus_: packages.ubuntu.com, or use apt-cache
[13:55] <setuid_> jrib, Installed Jaunty. Logged in. WAPs around me were seen. I selected mine and put in my psk, which came from my _working_ wpa_supplicant.conf file. It connects to my WAP. When it does so, it breaks the default route and adds garbage IPs and routes to /etc/resolv.conf and the routing table.
[13:55] <walrus_> jrib: could you be mroe specific, I'm new to linux :)
[13:56] <jrib> walrus_: apt-cache policy PACKAGE will tell you the version of a package
[13:56] <setuid_> jrib, The only way to get wireless working, is let nm-applet misconfigure wireless, then "fix" it manually at the shell, by editing /etc/resolv.conf manually and providing correct routes by "route del default" and "route add default gw ..."
[13:56] <jrib> setuid_: ok, but ask the channel
[13:56] <blixt> greets!  i couldn't save an edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf so i went sudo gedit in a terminal and saved the edit..
[13:56] <jrib> setuid_: can't you just not use nm at all though?
[13:56] <blixt> however this seams to have been a bad idea
[13:57] <setuid_> jrib, What are my other choices? Put the manual wpa_supplicant CLI options and args in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh? That'll blow up if I upgrade anything that touches that file.
[13:57] <walrus_> jrib: ok I see thanks, now I gotta figure out what is the catalyt package name XD
[13:57] <tgpraveen> hiya guys whats happening?
[13:57] <blixt> now i get a loud beed on shutdown
[13:57] <chazco> Hi.. anyone know how to use sed to split a resolution? e.g. to turn 1024x768 into var1=1024, var2=768
[13:57] <setuid_> chazco, perl
[13:57] <tgpraveen> anyone here can tell me what extra features banshee has rather than rhythmbox?
[13:57] <blixt> so i suspect by doing the edit that way i changed owner or rights or something...
[13:58] <tgpraveen> i hear it might replace rhythmbox in next version so i ask new features?
[13:58] <fornix_> chazco: you could do that with the cut command and using x as the separator
[13:58] <blixt> ..mm not beed.. i mean beep
[13:58] <chazco> fornix - Okay, will look into it. Thanks :)
[13:58] <blixt> what should the file settings be for daemon configs?
[13:58] <m3dlg> matreya6: i'm back, and the problem hasn't gone
[13:58] <blixt> and how do i change it easily?
[13:59] <pauwels_> i think my problem is in the pulse audio
[13:59] <pauwels_> but how  can i config it?:
[13:59] <macsim> hi, I have a strange issue with jaunty, when I plug usb harddrive on the computer, disk is reconize but not mounted, if I mount in a terminal its work well, I restart hal and nothing change, you know how to fix this ?
[13:59] <setuid_> Anyone know how I can get GNOME to "keep" my font settings? I log in and they're HUGE, and only get "fixed" when I go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance and *CHANGE NOTHING*. Just entering the dialog "tricks" GNOME into applying them.
[14:00] <walrus_> jrib: ok your method is fine bt it teels me the amdcccle package vesrion, but what I want to know is the Catalyst version( like 9.1 9.2 ect..) wich I can't find in the catalyst manager :(
[14:00] <jrib> setuid_: well, nm has always worked for me so I don't know your other options.  I assume before nm, there was a better way than what you said though.  See if the wiki has anything.
[14:00] <jrib> !wifi > setuid_
[14:00] <jrib> walrus_: usually the two are related. Does the package description say the version?
[14:00] <setuid_> jrib, Out of the box (this Jaunty install is less than a few hours old), it doesn't work.
[14:00] <jrib> setuid_: I think we've established that, I believe you
[14:00] <setuid_> jrib, so if yours works, you did something beyond the default config, to get it working
[14:01] <jrib> setuid_: nope
[14:01] <walrus_> jrib:  This package provides the Catalyst Control Center, Linux Edition <= doesn't say much :(
[14:01] <jrib> setuid_: i just selected my network from the drop down menu and entered my password
[14:02] <setuid_> fonts are broken as well. I can see the font faces in xlsfonts, but when I try to pass any of those to xterm -fn <font name>, it claims it can't load it.
[14:02] <nmvictor> where can i get a nice network monitor for the terminal,ive tried almost all suggestions i got so far nd im not pleased.any better ideas?
[14:02] <walrus_> jrib: and the xorg-drivers-fglrs simply say: This package provides 2D display drivers
[14:02] <walrus_> and hardware accelerated OpenGL.
[14:02] <setuid_> jrib, And how did it set up the routes? On this end, it makes up some random IP routes and applies those
[14:02] <yoolao> am i the only one to have troubles with kde network manager for the wifi in 9.04?
[14:02] <setuid_> jrib, routes which I do not have on my network, it gets them from "somewhere", and sets those as the default, which of course breaks networking
[14:02] <setuid_> yoolao, No, networking is very broken in 9.04
[14:02] <jrib> setuid_: I didn't check (not on the laptop now)
[14:03] <chaosphere> ﻿Hi. I tried to resize my root partition. After rebooting, 'df -h' shows no difference. gparted lists the partition as larger but there's no more space available. fsck.ext3 reports one large file. but i can't find one using 'find /media/sda2/ -size +2G -ls'. debugfs shows 'Size: 4299210752' when running 'stat <7>' (the resize inode). Does anyone have an idea how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/m19236235
[14:03] <jrib> walrus_: should be 8.543 http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/fglrx-amdcccle
[14:03] <yoolao> is there a replacement for the (broken (?)) NetworkManager?
[14:03] <setuid_> yoolao, yes, run wpa_supplicant manually from the shell
[14:04] <setuid_> yoolao, networkmanager is just a front-end for that
[14:04] <walrus_> jrib: oh im on 9.04 but im gonna check the details for 9.04 thanks
[14:04] <yoolao> hum.... i had to read about so...
[14:04] <m3dlg> how do i make my computer reset to default graphic setting with no ati driver so i can re-install the ati catalist from scratch - i'm on a live disk now because I can't boot to desktop without a freeze
[14:04] <chazco> fornix - Got it working, thanks :)
[14:05] <setuid_> fonts are broken, networking is broken, video driver is broken. Well, at least the disk works and the kernel unpacks and gives me a shell.
[14:05] <walrus_> jrib: actually I don't think the 8.543 or 8.600 for jaunty as anything to do with the Ati catalyst version :(
[14:06] <bj0ng0> hmm, when using netboot install (pxe booting it) is there a way to set desktop or server after APPEND, like  install=server? :|
[14:07] <m3dlg> matreya6: u still on?
[14:07] <jrib> walrus_: then you probably want to run the control center from the command line and try switches like --version, -v, -V, etc.
[14:07] <matreya6> back...
[14:07] <m3dlg> cool
[14:08] <m3dlg> i've found my back up conf file is blankso it doesn't work
[14:08] <QueenInfamous> How can I install some sound drivers?
[14:09] <thompa> anyone know whats up with i945? In Hardy I had better graphics. Flash and compiz are slow and my fan runs high on vaio
[14:09] <m3dlg> matreya6: is there someway to force the pc to default graphic and then repair from desktop
[14:09] <matreya6> m3ldg, yes there is it is a kernel option, vga-something... just a moment
[14:10] <m3dlg> matreya6: many thanks, i'm getting stressed big time now
[14:10] <walrus_> jrib: I'm sorry but actually the amdcccle (wich is catalyst manager) -version says 2.6 wich can't be the catalyst driver version :(
[14:10] <walrus_> jrib: sorry that ati catalyst thing is a real pain in the ass anyway
[14:11] <jrib> walrus_: why do you believe the package version is different than the version of the driver?
[14:11] <walrus_> jrib:  but I wanted to know if 9.04 was installing the 9.4 last catalyst version by default
[14:11] <matreya6> m3dlg, remember the motto of the Hitchikers Guide?....Don't Panic!
[14:11] <walrus_> jrib: because catalyst version are like 8.11, 8.12, 9.1, 9.2, 9.3 and latest is 9.4
[14:11] <jrib> walrus_: if you're using the driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log will probably give you some version info as well
[14:11] <m3dlg> matreya6: rofl
[14:11] <realsifo> hello. how to set my haier d1200p cdma in ubuntu 9.04?
[14:11] <walrus_> jrib:  no way 2.6 is the catalyst version :)
[14:12] <jrib> walrus_: the package version is not 2.6
[14:12] <walrus_> jrib: amdcccle -versions retuends 2.6
[14:12] <jrib> walrus_: should be 8.543 http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/fglrx-amdcccle
[14:12] <walrus_> jrib: amdcccle -version returned 2.6
[14:13] <walrus_> jrib: but even 8.543 seems really old, since it would be an 1 year old driver
[14:13] <walrus_> jrib:  im gonna check that file you told me
[14:13] <jrib> walrus_: if you go to download catalyst directly, it offers versions like 8.456 or whatever.  Remember, I linked you to intrepid, in jaunty it seems to be 8.600
[14:13] <matreya6> m3dlg, try the following kernel option: vga=791
[14:14] <m3dlg> matreya6: will do, just rebooting (AGAIN!)
[14:14] <walrus_> jrib: yes but even 8.600 would be 2008.06 drivers... seems weird for jaunty to be using 1 year old drivers by default no?
[14:14] <jrib> walrus_: no idea
[14:14] <Bman> matreya6, ?
[14:15] <jrib> walrus_: is that package the one that provides the driver?
[14:15] <matreya6> Bman, yes?
[14:15] <realsifo> hep me
[14:15] <Bman> what do i have to do at these keyboard preferences matreya6 ?
[14:15] <walrus_> jrib: im not sure, I used the Hardware proprietary drivers installation from ubuntu menu
[14:15] <walrus_> jrib: and i wanted to know what version it installed
[14:16] <vertagano> walrus_: fglrxinfo ?
[14:16] <xcerca> whats the command to see of the partitions and what they are mounted as and what their details are ?
[14:16] <m3dlg> matreya6: now for the daft question
[14:16] <ikonia> xcerca: mount
[14:16] <walrus_> vertagano: fgrlxinfo only says some opengl version that's all :(
[14:16] <m3dlg> matreya6: where do i put a kernal option like that, not console like i did (like noob i am)
[14:17] <vertagano> What's in the parens at the end of the OpenGL version?
[14:17] <matreya6> Bman, I have only used those options with a US-Qwerty Keyboard, try using Alternative French Keyboard layout and see if that fits your real layout
[14:18] <matreya6> m3dlg, in grub you have a few seconds before it loads the kernel, you can select the row that selects your kernel and edit the line with "e" to add stuff to it, like vga-791
[14:19] <matreya6> m3dlg, you can also try the safe graphics mode, but as you will see that does not always work...
[14:19] <walrus_> vertagano: OpenGL version string: 2.1.8575
[14:20] <Bman> matreya6, no, doesn't work. you know a place where it's more focussed on stuff liek this?
[14:20] <vertagano> walrus_: Huh. When I used to have an ATI card, it would list my Catalyst version in parens after the OpenGL version string.
[14:20] <m3dlg> minus or equals? u used both
[14:21] <walrus_> vertagano: seems it doesn't anymore :(
[14:21] <matreya6> Bman, try this thread for starters: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4909618
[14:21] <vertagano> walrus_: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/35147
[14:21] <Bman> thanks
[14:21] <Blizzerand> Which is the best desktop environment for Ubuntu ??
[14:22] <walrus_> vertagano: i tried to searach on the jaunty wiki, it's weird they do'nt list the default catalyst version installed
[14:22] <nuninoo> pls help me troubleshoot why i cannot ping an XP machine in LAN. I can ping if I boot into XP too
[14:22] <walrus_> vertagano: oh!!!! thats explains it all !!!
[14:23] <matreya6> Blizzerand, that's purely personal, just look at some screenshots, browse some features and see waht appeals to you. Then just give a LiveCD a spin to see if you really like it :-)
[14:23] <walrus_> vertagano: thx a lot :) now i wonder if i should install the real 9.4 or keep these default
[14:23] <Blizzerand> hmm
[14:23] <matreya6> Bman, Here's another: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-106209.html
[14:24] <Bman> thx alot matreya6 :)
[14:24] <vertagano> walrus_: I think I'd keep the default for now... But then, I hate troubleshooting video problems.
[14:24] <walrus_> jrib: just to let you know you were right about 8.600 :) as vertagano found out it is a non official catalyst that is shipped with 9.04 :p
[14:25] <matreya6> Bman, don't mention it. I have a P3 lappy with a weird Belgian Toshiba layout. It was such a hassle to get that layout working that I just switched to US-international and typed the right keys from memory.
[14:25] <walrus_> vertagano: im asking myself because i can hardly play any video while compiz is atcivated, meaning while the fglrx driver is in use :( :( :(
[14:25] <m3dlg> matreya6: that has not worked, i'll have to out soon, i'm stressed and i figure i'll have to do a re-install, but i can't afford to loose the 1tbish of stuff i have on the rest of teh drive
[14:26] <matreya6> m3dlg, are those 1tbish of stuff on an another partition than the OS itself?
[14:26] <mikael> greets! i pasted my question about daemon.con edit in pulse in the pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168762/plain/
[14:26] <paolo88> hi
[14:27] <m3dlg> most on the same drive same partition
[14:27] <m3dlg> it's a shared drive with the devil too
[14:27] <matreya6> m3dlg, On ebit of general advice though: If you are stressed, calm down first before you go to work on your system and inadvertently break stuff that you hold dear.
[14:27] <paolo88> i want know how much the partition / is full, who i must do?
[14:27] <matreya6> m3dlg, Ah, VLM/ Raid?
[14:27] <matreya6> paolo88, try df -h
[14:28] <m3dlg> not raid, normal single drive
[14:28] <kasia> Hello ;)
[14:28] <paolopaolotto> ciao
[14:28] <paolopaolotto> !list
[14:28] <m3dlg> oooohhh something has happened, the screens have swapped
[14:28] <phoe6> I get this error, when I try to remove a package: "The package 'printers-bangalore' is in an inconsistent state and needs to be reinstalled, but no archive can be found for it. Please reinstall the package manually or remove it from the system."
[14:28] <phoe6> how I handle this?
[14:28] <ikonia> paolo88: open a terminal and type "df -h"
[14:28] <phoe6> I want to remove it from the system
[14:28] <kasia> can you tell me something about Wine ??
[14:28] <ikonia> !info printers-bangalore
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> !wine | kasia
[14:29] <ikonia> phoe6: that package is not an ubuntu created package
[14:29] <paolo88> matreya6, ikonia: perfect! tanks
[14:29] <phoe6> yes, that is not a ubuntu created package..
[14:29] <kasia> OK thank you ;)
[14:29] <AustLaw> is there some way to make a termal iterate threw autocomplete matches when tab is pressed multiple times, rather than list matches?
[14:29] <dLeonX> hello every1
[14:29] <ikonia> phoe6: speak to the people who created it
[14:29] <phoe6> my sys-admin created it.
[14:29] <ikonia> phoe6: speak to him then
[14:29] <kasia> I want to ask you again :P
[14:29] <ikonia> kasia: what's the problem ?
[14:30] <phoe6> well, if I would like to try to remove it; what should I do?
[14:30] <phoe6> i installed it.
[14:30] <nuninoo> i cannot ping windows xp machine
[14:30] <ikonia> phoe6: speak to your sys admin, so he can verify how it will effect your system
[14:30] <kasia> Myt processor is Intel Petnium 1.7Ghz, Memomory 512 Mb Ram and Geforce 4200Ti. I have Ubuntu 9.04
[14:30] <paolo88> i go out....tanks! bye
[14:30] <ikonia> kasia: ok,
[14:31] <ikonia> kasia: what is your question
[14:31] <m3dlg> matreya6: the screens spread out as if they was one instaed of a clone of each other, then as it came to desk top it went blank, havre to go out now - off to cinema. many many thanks for your kind help, i'll be back later to give the pc a good kicking
[14:31] <matreya6> m3dlg, Enjoy the movie, glad to hear everything turned out well in the end :-D
[14:31] <kasia> My computer can handle Ubuntu with max graphics effects ?
[14:32] <ikonia> kasia: that's nothing to do with wine, what graphics card do you have ?
[14:32] <phoe6> ikonia: I have unziped the package and i know that it wont affect my system. I am trying to do it myself ( to learn) and the reason I installed package was to setup the printer.
[14:32] <m3dlg> well it's nearly fixed, it's different - catch you later if ur still about. man ythanks
[14:32] <ikonia> phoe6: still best to speak to your sys admin, I'm sure he will teach you but teach you safley
[14:32] <kasia> GeForce 4200Ti
[14:32] <matreya6> m3dlg, don't mention it, glad to be of help
[14:32] <ikonia> kasia: I doubt that's powerfull enough to deal with all effects
[14:33] <Dillizar> what do i need to type in terminal to see the model of my graphic card
[14:33] <ikonia> Dillizar: lspci will list it
[14:33] <kasia> Thank you
[14:33] <Dillizar> ikonia, was smt with | in the middle
[14:33] <ikonia> Dillizar: ?
[14:33] <DrHalan> how can i ensure that a symbolic link will be realative? if i do cp -S it is sometimes absolute
[14:33] <Bman> matreya6, yeah and i don't understand a shit of what they say on that site :D damn
[14:34] <ikonia> Bman: please control your language
[14:34] <blixt> sorry bout repeating... came in as wrong user.. could someone check my post about editing daemon.con for pulse? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168762/plain/
[14:34] <Dillizar> ikonia, it was lspci | smt
[14:34] <erUSUL> DrHalan: afaik there is no such thing as a "relative" symbolic link
[14:34] <QueenInfamous> How can I make my VLC player to be the main player of both video/audio files?
[14:34] <mypapit_offline> !Bman | wtf
[14:34] <matreya6> Bman, where do you hit a wall? Maybe I can help you from the point were you couldn´ t follow it anymore.
[14:34] <ikonia> Dillizar: what was ?
[14:35] <axel_> Hello! I've some problems with netbook remix: When switching the desktop mode from "classical desktop" to "Ubuntu-Netbook-Desktop" the GNOME panels remain displayed and are layed over the "netbook interface". How to fix that?
[14:35] <DrHalan> erUSUL: there should be
[14:35] <phoe6> ikonia: Sorry to bother you;please dont let me in rounds. If you know the howto, please share;  there should be reason as why I am trying so hard.. :) you get it?
[14:35] <Dillizar> ok ikonia this works too
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> axel_:  there may be a forum thread on that topic. switching btween the 2 desktops - fails to reset some settings. Like the 'maximus' app  that may be your issue also.
[14:36] <ikonia> phoe6: your system administrator is the best way - if there is a reason you won't speak to your system administrator can't help you please tell me
[14:36] <ubuntu> slm
[14:37] <ubuntu> heyy
[14:37] <phoe6> Well, my system adminster can help; but it would cost me 2 days of waiting. :)
[14:37] <phoe6> which I am not in position to do.. I am trying to install a ssl headers and this thing is coming in between
[14:37] <shyam> what would be the best way to mount the folders on my laptop to my desktop? i want to use them just like an externel partition being mounted..
[14:37] <phoe6> I am trying out steps from google.. as I am chatting in this channel.
[14:37] <shyam> nfs?
[14:38] <erUSUL> shyam: yes
[14:38] <ikonia> phoe6: ssl headers have nothing to do with this package
[14:39] <phoe6> I will install it using apt-get or Synaptics package manager; the latter wont work if I have this package in a bad shape.
[14:39] <ikonia> phoe6: ok - so then it DOES have implications to other packages - speak to your system administrator
[14:40] <phoe6> okay.
[14:40] <shyam> erUSUL: thanks..
[14:40] <phoe6> as I said, it would take my  2days and I shall look out for help at other avenues ( or someone else too). thanks.
[14:40] <QueenInfamous> How can I make my VLC player to be the main player of both video/audio files?
[14:40] <Sebboh> I disagree about NFS, unless you really know how it works and now how to use very recent features..  An unavailable NFS export results in serious breakage..  I've heard about some new feature that solves that problem, but I don't know how to use it.
[14:40] <Akuma> Hello, I have an issue with upgrading, I'm wondering if you guys can help me find the source of the problem or solution.
[14:41] <shyam> Sebboh: what you prefer over nfs?
[14:41] <ikonia> phoe6: you will potentially do serious damage to your system playing with a custom pacakge that has dependencies on other pacakges
[14:41] <Akuma> I get the following message when the upgrade window pops for upgrading
[14:41] <Akuma> "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[14:41] <Akuma> how would I got about finding the exact problem?
[14:42] <Akuma> I'm currently running 9.04
[14:42] <shesek> I'm using ubuntu (server) installtion's shell, I don't have fdisk, is there any way of finding out what partition I have ?
[14:42] <phoe6> ikonia: I am not worried about that. :) I am kind of surprised at your send me in so many rounds.  ikonia; I am a programmer,  who can try out stuffs and experiement too. This package was a experiement which has failed; and I am trying to undo it..
[14:43] <ikonia> phoe6: the package should not just be blindly removed if it has dependencies on other packages, hence why you should talk to your systems administrator
[14:43] <shyam> shesek: mount -l or df ? sorry i didn't get what shell that is..
[14:44] <phoe6> Okay, it depends upon Depends: cupsys-client, openprinting-ppds
[14:44] <phoe6> as I am said, I am not worried if my whole system crashes too; but that wont happen is my gut feel.
[14:44] <aar> QueenInfamous, you simply associate the file extensions with the VLC bin file. Konqueror will let you do that, under options.
[14:44] <phoe6> I am on Wubi.. btw. one of the option is to a do a system-repair.
[14:45] <quiksilver> is there a way to install .iso's on linux without burning to cd?
[14:45] <comicinker> does the live-dvd of ubuntu studio already uses the real-time kernel?
[14:45] <quiksilver> i have a .iso installer disc
[14:45] <shyam> Sebboh: you using samba?
[14:45] <daan> Can anyone tell me, does the build-essentials package do anything at all for compiling software like MySQL from source? Or is it only meant for building actual .deb packages? I'm a bit confused by the description of the package.
[14:45] <quiksilver> and a .iso for the application
[14:46] <daglees> Hi, I have ubuntu installed inside Windows and I read Hibernation is not available
[14:46] <arvind_khadri> daan, its useful when you compile packages
[14:46] <daglees> so there's no workaround to enable it after it's been installed?
[14:46] <blixt> how come i get a beep on shutdown after editing /etc/pulse/daemon.conf ?
[14:46] <PhotoJim> quiksilver: there are ways of making a bootable flash drive and booting off that, and some very advanced ways of booting if you have an existing Linux system to start the process with.  but the CD is by far the easiest . if worried about "wasting" a CD, use CD-RWs which are reusable.
[14:46] <arvind_khadri> blixt, blacklist pcspkr
[14:46] <shyam> quiksilver: if its an ubuntu package cd, what you can do is to mount that iso file using mount command which will make it run like a "virtual cd" and do "add cdrom" to the synaptic..
[14:46] <phoe6> and more-over ikonia; I am on a  higher version of ubuntu than my corporate; so I am my own system-adminstrator in this case...
[14:47] <^biNuN_giRL^> jjll
[14:47] <arvind_khadri> quiksilver, yes
[14:47] <blixt> aha!  what does that mean?
[14:47] <daan> arvind_khadri: i see, thanks. how can i find what the package actually installs for me? the packages.ubuntu.com page only shows the dependencies and the description
 Ubuntu won't do full work if you install it under windows. It's not pure Ubuntu environment.
[14:47] <blixt> even if i edit it back the beep is still there..
[14:47] <quiksilver> thanks alot
[14:47] <quiksilver> shyam: it
[14:48] <quiksilver> shyam: its not the ubuntu cd
[14:48] <daglees> dLeonX, what are the main differences?
[14:48] <quiksilver> PhotoJim: thanks
[14:48] <PhotoJim> quiksilver: you're welcome.
[14:48] <quiksilver> arvind_khadri: which method do you reccomend
[14:48] <Almindor> hello
[14:48] <Almindor> does anyone know a good graph editor?
[14:48] <arvind_khadri> quiksilver, the loopback stuff
[14:48] <arvind_khadri> daan, just a min
[14:49] <Almindor> something for creating graph images (preferably with possibilities for black&white print, not just colors)
[14:49] <shyam> quiksilver: hmm.. i assumed that you have a running gnu distribution and what you want is to add more software. is it like that? then be careful about version of the cd.. mixing different distros and even different versions of same distro can cause harm
[14:49] <Rapachooie> hi all... I am trying to move everything from a bunch of sub directories, into the original folder directory
[14:49] <Rapachooie> is there an easy CLI command to use?
[14:49] <Almindor> I tried dia and inkscape but both lack stuff for black & white printing
[14:49] <daan> arvind_khadri: ofcourse, thanks
[14:49] <vertagano> Rapachooie: You can use a for loop in bash.
 If you intall it under Windows, Ubuntu is just like another VirtualMachince. If you wan the full power, you need to setup it in real Linux env.
[14:49] <arvind_khadri> Rapachooie, mv
[14:50] <Rapachooie> vertagano:  could you give me an example?
[14:50] <tesseracter> hi, every time i go to open a file (the file dialog box?) the application freezes for about 30-60 seconds before continuing an normal. this is extremely frustrating. help?
[14:50] <daglees> dLeonX, the problem is that I can't partition my harddisk
[14:50] <daglees> although I got like 50Gb free
 ??? why
[14:51] <daglees> otherwise I'd have installed it independently
[14:51] <daglees> well whenever I try to shrink it it will only let me use about 500mb
[14:51] <daglees> I tried defragging and all
[14:51] <vertagano> Rapachooie: for i in `ls -R`; do echo "$i"; done
[14:51] <vertagano> Rapachooie: That will list every file in every subdirectory from where it's run.
[14:52] <Rapachooie> arvind_khadri: yes I would like to use mv, but I do not know how to tell it to move the contents of every subdirectory into the original
[14:52] <Rapachooie> vertagano: ok cool... and then I can replace ls with mv
[14:52] <blixt> arvind: would that be a command to silence the pc-speaker?  do you have any idea why i now have the beep?
[14:52] <vertagano> Rapachooie: for i in `ls -R`; do mv "$i" /newfolder; done
[14:52] <comicinker> Rapachooie: http://wooledge.org:8000/BashGuide
[14:52] <Rapachooie> oh brilliant
[14:53] <vertagano> Rapachooie: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_01.html
[14:53] <arvind_khadri> Rapachooie, you need to blacklist the module named pcspkr
 Are you sure you have more than that? What exactly you've done? except defrag-ing?
[14:53] <quiksilver> does ubuntu have any great open source language learning programs?
[14:53] <quiksilver> if  i want to learn italian etc
[14:53] <Rapachooie> okie dokes... but why do I need to blacklist the pcspeaker module?
[14:54] <axel_> Dr_Willis: Thank you for your hint. The only thread I found that could fix the problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154372) didn
[14:54] <axel_> t it.
[14:54] <arvind_khadri> Rapachooie, that wasnt for you sorry
[14:54] <wilhart> heya, does ubuntustudio cut off all server related loagings?
[14:54] <Rapachooie> oh no problem :) cheers
[14:54] <Rapachooie> ok vertagano thanks a bunch of that    im looking at it now
[14:54] <axel_> Dr_Willis: ... didn't it.
[14:54] <nuninoo> hi i have 2 ethernet cards - 1 for lan and 1 for internet. how do i know which one is which?
[14:55] <arvind_khadri> blixt, you would need to blacklist the module pcspkr as the sound is coming from there
[14:55] <timebomb> heya, i got Ubuntu 8.04.2 on my lil fileserver and it loads snd-hdaintel automatically
[14:55] <timebomb> alsamixer shows up fine too
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> axel_:  not sure what to tell ya then. actually ive frogotten the actual problem... :) me and my short attention span...
[14:55] <timebomb> but i have no sound in mocp
[14:55] <timebomb> would anyone know why?
[14:55] <civixier> Hi! I've just installed hamachi under ubuntu. I can see everyone in the network, but I cant ping them. Have I missed anything?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> !info hamachi
[14:56] <wilhart> doh
[14:56] <shadeslayer> civixier: whats that?
[14:56] <blixt> arvind: i c. but if possible i would like to know why the beep came alive.. i suspect it has something to do with my method of editing the file
[14:56] <daan> !info build-essential
[14:56] <wilhart> does ubuntustudio leave out all unnessesery stuff?
[14:57] <civixier> shadeslayer Hamachi? A VPN-manager, sorta.
[14:57] <arvind_khadri> daan, i dont know how to find the contents of a package :( sorry
[14:57] <chaorain> Hi, long question. http://paste-it.net/public/v89741e/
[14:57] <civixier> shadeslayer lan over internet
[14:57] <arvind_khadri> blixt, the sound comes when you do something wrong, you can also edit it in Sounds
[14:57] <shadeslayer> civixier: cant see it in the repo
[14:57] <wilhart> hello?
[14:57] <daan> arvind_khadri: np, thanks for trying :) i will look around some msgboards etc
[14:57] <shadeslayer> wilhart: hi
[14:58] <wilhart> shadeslayer: hi!
[14:58] <wilhart> shadeslayer: i was wondering does the "kernel" leave out unnsesery loadings on startup ?
[14:58] <wilhart> shadeslayer: making ubuntu faster? (ubuntustudio)
[14:58] <shadeslayer> wilhart: un-necessary ? what do you consider un-necessary?
[14:59] <arvind_khadri> daan, ya , you also try sudo aptitude
[14:59] <civixier> shadeslayer The windows version is more popular, its mostly used as a gaming-on-lan-over-internet-thing, the linux version isnt that well-known I think.
[14:59] <wilhart> shadeslayer: well all demonsa?
[14:59] <wilhart> deamons
[14:59] <daan> the information is very contradictional, one says: "Were you trying to compile someting from source? build-essential is whats called a meta-package i.e. a package that pulls many other packages for installation.".. while the actual package info says: "If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package.  Moreover this package is not required for building Debian packages."
[14:59] <daan> a 'debian package' means a .deb file, doesn't it?
[14:59] <blixt> arvind: first i edited the conf... please take a look here... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/168783/plain/
[14:59] <shadeslayer> wilhart: ah...try #ubuntustudio.or you can see for your self,press ctrl+alt+F1 after booting
[15:00] <dLeonX> Anybody here know why xfdesktop --reload (Xfce4) doesn't work as its former.
[15:00] <coz_> daan,  yes
[15:00] <shadeslayer> !studio
[15:00] <kristian1> hey! how can i convert a webpage to .pdf in ubuntu? :-)
[15:00] <chaorain> Partition mounting question. http://paste-it.net/public/v89741e/
[15:00] <axel_> Dr_Willis: Thanks again for the hint.
[15:00] <matreya6> kristian1, try html2pdf
[15:00] <_Brun0_> Whya can't I set chortcut for nautilus? Uubntu 9.04 here
[15:00] <_Brun0_> shortcut*
 Know 2 tools. 1: htmldoc 2:html2pdf.
[15:01] <qwert666> is there something to customise my .config so that i compile only the drivers that i need hmm or that are installed/mounted ?
[15:02] <Rapachooie> vertagano: Im having some trouble with that
[15:02] <ikonia> qwert666: the kernel is modular anyway - so don't worry about that
[15:02] <Rapachooie> it moved everything to the new folder exactly as it was previoulsy
[15:02] <gilster> hello all
[15:02] <shesek> shyam, I think its called ash
[15:03] <gilster> i need some help getting my laptops firewire to pick up devices.
[15:03] <arvind_khadri> !who | blixt
[15:03] <shesek> mount -l won't give anything, just the usage message
[15:04] <NarbeH> I can't Access to my WebServer from another PC in my LAN. WHY ?
[15:04] <PhotoJim> All: I pressed Windows-R (thinking for a minute I was in Windows, wanting a terminal; brain cramp).  and now my desktop is oversized for my screen and I have to mouse around to see all of it.  Windows-R doesn't seem to undo it.  Any ideas?
[15:04] <matreya6> shesek, try running mount as root
[15:04] <phoe6> ikonia: are you there?
[15:04] <ikonia> phoe6: yes
[15:04] <kristian1> matreya6 & dLeonX : will check it out! thanks! :-)
[15:04] <shesek> matreya6, its a very basic shell, I don't even have sudo
[15:04] <shesek> whoami doesn't work too
[15:04] <qwert666> ikonia: yep, but now when i have a runing OS i know what precisely is on my PC so next time when i would compile the kernel i could save some time
[15:05] <phoe6> I edited /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove all references of that package. Things are working now.
[15:05] <NarbeH> I can't Access to my WebServer from another PC in my LAN. WHY ?
[15:05] <blixt> arvind:  sorry about that! :-)  could u please check out my binpaste?
[15:05] <phoe6> But to be frank, I was dismayed at your suggestions, in IRC.. :)
[15:05] <FloridaGuy> how dp i add awn repo for 9.04
[15:05] <chaorain> I need help with fstab. http://paste-it.net/public/v89741e/
[15:05] <gilster> how do i get my firewire in laptop to pick up an external drive. The card shows fine in lspci but doesnt recognize the drive at all
[15:05] <matreya6> shesek, but can you login as root?
[15:06] <shesek> it seems to be busybox with ash or something like that. I can't figure out how to get a parition list
[15:06] <arvind_khadri> blixt, please auto completion... i saw the paste.... i have no idea why it is so, just check out the sound events
[15:06] <shesek> matreya6, I don't login at all, its a rescure shell that I ran from the installtion CD
[15:06] <NarbeH> I can't Access to my WebServer from another PC in my LAN. WHY ?
[15:06] <blixt> arvind: ok thnx!
[15:07] <_Brun0_> Why my keybind to nautiluss doesn't work? I want to open nautilus with alt+n or alt+p. How?
[15:07] <matreya6> shesek, usually, just "mount" will give you a list (no need to add the -l)
[15:07] <NarbeH> _Brun0_: Set it in Keyboard ShortCuts
[15:07] <NarbeH> I can't Access to my WebServer from another PC in my LAN. WHY ?
[15:07] <VCoolio> FloridaGuy: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#keys?action=show&redirect=PPAKeys AWN is the example it works with
[15:07] <user__> NarbeH: what have you tried so far?
[15:07] <gilster> anyone here working with an external firewire drive  of any sort?
[15:08] <_Brun0_> NarbeH, i set. both alt+p, then after alt+n to run command nautilus. But it doesn't work.
[15:08] <matreya6> Narbeh, what does a telnet on you webserver port give you?
[15:08] <PhotoJim> gilster: sure.
[15:09] <NarbeH> user__: i just install lamp server. before i could see my webserver from another pc . but now i can't why?
[15:09] <NarbeH> matreya6: i don't know
[15:09] <gilster> photojim: cheers. how did you mount your drive. did it automount?
[15:10] <PhotoJim> gilster: I think so.  I haven't attached it for a few days.  I use it to back up my server.  yours is not automounting?
[15:10] <user__> NarbeH: what does 'telnet my.server.ip.x 80' give you?
[15:10] <matreya6> Narbeh, let's say you have your webserver hosted on 192.168.1.3 and on that address you have your webserver listening at port 80. In that case, what does the command "telnet 192.168.1.3 80" give you?
[15:11] <gilster> photojim: nope. doesnt pick up anything
[15:11] <TheMaestro> guys has anyone customized gedit here?
[15:11] <TheMaestro> i have a coupla doubts
[15:11] <vertagano> Rapachooie: http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/589336/638946
[15:11] <gilster> photojim: the card works and lspci reads it correctly but when i plug an external Maxtor firewire drive i get nothing
[15:12] <vertagano> Rapachooie: This seems to speak directly to your purpose.
[15:12] <PhotoJim> gilster: open up a terminal.  if you just plugged it in (and if you didn't, you may want to unplug it, wait 10 seconds, and plug it in again), you should see messages about it in your dmesg.  you can type "sudo tail /var/log/dmesg" to see the last few lines, or just "dmesg" if you don't mind it scrolling through everything first.
[15:12] <PhotoJim> gilster: is the drive partitioned and formatted?
[15:12] <NarbeH> matreya6: user__: Unable... Network Is Unreachable ...
[15:12] <Rapachooie> thanks vertagano
[15:13] <deadman> hi i cant view flash anymore... it just appears empty white...
[15:13] <deadman> can anyone help me
[15:13] <NarbeH> deadman: install flashplayer-nonfree
[15:13] <gilster> photojim: yes formatted NTFS, let me try dmesg. i think i have done that
[15:13] <deadman> NarbeH, i was able to view flash until today
[15:14] <matreya6> Narbeh, in that case, your problem lies elsewhere. First of all you need your PC to be able to connect to your webserver at basic ping level. Maybe there is something wrong with routing on your network?
[15:14] <deadman> i have a 64bit system
[15:14] <NarbeH> deadman: re install it
[15:14] <ertu_> Does anyone know how to auto-start a certain app at a certain workspace in gnome?
[15:14] <deadman> ok
[15:14] <vertagano> Rapachooie: Kitty Cat's solution looks promising.
[15:14] <ertu_> deadman, 64bit opera + flash problem?
[15:14] <NarbeH> matreya6: i can ping 192.168.1.3
[15:14] <mario> #Punch
[15:14] <NarbeH> matreya6: i don't know really :-s
[15:14] <matreya6> deadman, I used an ugly workaround: I installed the Windows version of Firefox and Flash Player on top of that.
[15:15] <deadman> matreya6, how do you install windows version of firefox
[15:15] <matreya6> Narbeh, yes but is your webserver at the same IP? (I mean 192.168.1.3 ?)
[15:15] <deadman> wine?
[15:15] <NarbeH> matreya6: no. it's 192.168.1.2
[15:16] <slitaz> Hi
[15:16] <fuad> Hi
[15:16] <fuad> i have some problems
[15:16] <fuad> i cant run the live cd thing
[15:16] <fuad> it doesnt load with i choose 'try ubuntu without any changes to your computer'
[15:17] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys need help with psat on octave, anyone here knows how to install it?
[15:17] <cypher1> *sigh* it seems with every distribution one or the other things break
[15:17] <user__> cypher1: true, how can we help you?
[15:17] <SoDoMa> hi.i want to learn Shell,i want to bay a book called "Beginning shell scripting" from Eric Foster, John Walch and Mircoh Anderson,,,is it usefull for me ?
[15:17] <slitaz> my frnd tried to upgrade from alternate iso and it failed becuase he has no space.......... and now , he got all the things in synaptic empty..... it has just labels in the left side but its all empty ... how to restore the,m all ?
[15:17] <matreya6> NarbeH, OK, but in that case can you ping 192.168.1.2?
[15:17] <Rapachooie> eek this is hurting my head
[15:17] <cypher1> user__: thanks.. i was just saying my thoughts loudly..
[15:17] <Rapachooie> i need to learn more about CLI stuff
[15:17] <NarbeH> matreya6: yap
[15:18] <fuad> i cant run the live cd thing.it doesnt load with i choose 'try ubuntu without any changes to your computer'
[15:18] <matreya6> !route | NarbeH
[15:18] <PhotoJim> gilster: I have to go for a few minutes, but I'll come back in a bit to keep helping you, if you need.  you can /msg me if you like.
[15:18] <slitaz> fuad you need t0 have 256+ mb of ram
[15:18] <slitaz> my frnd tried to upgrade from alternate iso and it failed becuase he has no space.......... and now , he got all the things in synaptic empty..... it has just labels in the left side but its all empty ... how to restore them all ?
[15:19] <SoDoMa> hi.i want to learn Shell,i want to bay a book called "Beginning shell scripting" from Eric Foster, John Walch and Mircoh Anderson,,,is it usefull for me ?
[15:19] <slitaz> is it possible to restore synaptic from the livecd ???
[15:19] <matreya6> Narbeh, well, that's a start. Most secure webservers are configured so that they cannot be accessed by anyone (except localhost) by default. What webserver have you running, Apache2?
[15:19] <shiznebit> does anyone know the minimum requirements for ubuntu MID ?
[15:19] <slitaz> my frnd tried to upgrade from alternate iso and it failed becuase he has no space.......... and now , he got all the things in synaptic empty..... it has just labels in the left side but its all empty ... how to restore them all ?
[15:20] <tom_> #Channel
[15:20] <NarbeH> matreya6: oh men :-s now i can't ping it. what happend? be right back.
[15:20] <NarbeH> matreya6: thanks for help :_
[15:20] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz:  what version ubuntu is he installing
[15:20] <NarbeH> :)
[15:20] <matreya6> NarbeH, np
[15:20] <SoDoMa> can any one help  me?
[15:21] <matreya6> SoDoMa, => #bash
[15:21] <slitaz> sacarlson, he upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 uzing alternate iso .... with havinng all the current  updates of 810 installed
[15:21] <shiznebit> nvm
[15:21] <SoDoMa> ?!
[15:21] <lanoxx> !rooot
[15:21] <lanoxx> !root
[15:21] <slitaz> sacarlson, any way to restore synaptic ?
[15:22] <matreya6> SoDoMa, What I meant to say is this, there's a #bash channel that you can join to ask questions about shellscripting in that shell
[15:22] <slitaz> sacarlson, plzzz  any idea ?
[15:22] <SoDoMa> ok thanks
[15:22] <cypher1> i am trying to print a file as PDF from browser but there is no PDF getting generated. I checked the apparmor and the directory where cupsd has to put the file is listed there
[15:22] <matreya6> SoDoMa, enjoy scripting!
[15:22] <Kareeser> Hey guys! I was trying to get wireless working on my ubuntu minimal install, but for some reason, it only detects lo. I know the kernel natively supports both b44 and ipw2200, so what do I have to do next to get "ifconfig" to read all three devices? iwconfig returns a segmentation fault
[15:23] <slitaz> my frnd tried to upgrade from alternate iso and it failed becuase he has no space.......... and now , he got all the things in synaptic empty..... it has just labels in the left side but its all empty ... how to restore them all ?
[15:23] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: i'm not sure but sounds like the repository problem
[15:24] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: if you can try to change repository server.  but sounds like something worse
[15:24] <slitaz> sacarlson, he tried to upgraade but failed due to lack of space in /........and lost contents o9f synaptic
[15:25] <slitaz> sacarlson, ok..... help me with that..... how to change that server ??
[15:25] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: oh hard drive space ?  or ram
[15:25] <slitaz> sacarlson, or any idea on how to restore sypatic  from live cd of 810 ?
[15:25] <slitaz> sacarlson, Hd space on /  ...
[15:25] <locellcount> Made a bit of a boo boo and somehow managed to remove gedit... i know, should have just removed my users configuration files, but 20 20 hindsight. Anyway, reinstalled but for some reason the menu is missing, ie File etc. How do I go about getting it back?
[15:26] <slitaz> sacarlson, know how restore synptc from live cd ?
[15:26] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: you would have to make the partition biger then
[15:26] <slitaz> sacarlson, thats exactly why he needs gparted from synap.... but synap is empty :P :(
[15:26] <TheFunkbomb> so, lets talk some ubuntu
[15:26] <legend2440> i am about to upgrade to Jaunty from Intrepid when i get this message  This computer is currently using the AMD 'fglrx' graphics driver. No version of this driver is available that works with your hardware in Ubuntu 9.04.
[15:26] <legend2440> Do you want to continue? will this cause problems if i upgrade?
[15:27] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz:  you can download and make a gparted bootable cd
[15:27] <slitaz> sacarlson, so how to change that server ? pls help
[15:27] <TheFunkbomb> legend2440, I would say so
[15:27] <slitaz> sacarlson, true but his computer cant boot cds
[15:27] <quit> Is there any way to unmount all ISO's I've mounted automaticaly?
[15:27] <legend2440> TheFunkbomb: ok thanks
[15:27] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: oh can't boot cd?  what do you boot then
[15:28] <slitaz> sacarlson, not me ....... but my frnd.....
[15:28] <_Brun0_> Why my keybind to nautiluss doesn't work? I want to open nautilus with alt+n or alt+p. How to make it work?
[15:28] <slitaz> sacarlson, he installed with netboot
[15:28] <qwert666> i`ve compiled the kernel with make-kpkg and got some errors about permission ( at the end when the packages was build ) so i changed chmod and build the linux-image manualy , what about linux-headers how should i build it ? ...
[15:28] <Lint01> legend2440, you'll lose 3D functionality after upgrade
[15:28] <slitaz> sacarlson, tell me plz how to xchange repo server
[15:28] <slitaz> ?
[15:28] <slitaz> !repository
[15:29] <slitaz> sacarlson, ???
[15:29] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: I have no idea how you can netboot gparted.  sounds hard
[15:30] <userek> hi, ubuntu is starting to drive me nuts, i've run a game in wne
[15:30] <slitaz> sacarlson, very hard because he neetbot with no servre ....but see that last link in !netboot... used that one
[15:30] <unop> quit, grep -io "^.*iso" /etc/mtab | xargs sudo umount
[15:30] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one  ....how can i add ot ubuntu the support of different languages ( like arabic :D)
[15:30] <userek> hi, ubuntu is starting to drive me nuts, i've run a game in wine it changet the resolution to  640x480 and crashed. Now even after rebot x uses 640x480, BULLSHIT!
[15:30] <slitaz> sacarlson, my question is : how t change repo server ?
[15:30] <quit> unop, thanks.
[15:31] <sacarlson> ﻿ slitaz: the synaptic list is at /etc/apt
[15:31] <ke^kx> can someone explain to me why wine refuses to execute the itunes-installer?
[15:31] <userek> is there some file in my home dir that stores that resolution??
[15:31] <slitaz> sacarlson, do you kow how to change rep server ? if yes , help me pz
[15:31] <matreya6> userek, mind your language please...You can reconfigure X through the menu to redetect your screeen.
[15:31] <legend2440> Lint01: so i guess i need to wait a while until they get a driver for jaunty that works with my ati video card?
[15:31] <slitaz> @ all, aanyone can help me with changing repo server of synap ?
[15:32] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: I don't think that's your problem.  if there is no space to put a list what can it do?
[15:32] <jrib> slitaz: system -> admin -> software sources
[15:32] <jrib> !appdb | ke^kx
[15:32] <fuad> i downloaded the i386,im using xp sp3.i cant run the live cd thing,it doesnt load with i choose 'try ubuntu without any changes to your computer'
[15:32] <locellcount> Is there a room more specific to gedit? I tried #gedit but that doesn't seem to be the right one
[15:32] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: you need to open up some space maybe.  delete uneeded libs or ?
[15:32] <fuad> whatss the problem ?
[15:32] <jrib> locellcount: maybe on irc.gnome.org... check gnome.org website
[15:33] <mrwes> Can I use an argument in a bash aliases - eg. $1
[15:33] <fuad> i downloaded the i386,im using xp sp3.i cant run the live cd thing,it doesnt load with i choose 'try ubuntu without any changes to your computer' What is the problem?
[15:34] <mrwes> alias burndvd='growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=$1 && eject /dev/dvd'
[15:34] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: install a server that takes less space then repartition the disk
[15:34] <fuad> mrwes is that for me ?
[15:34] <eduardo> i have install ubuntu 9 a 2 days ago, and now my wireless is up down, some thing that has not happened before
[15:34] <eduardo> could some one helpe mew
[15:34] <eduardo> me*
[15:35] <userek> matreya6: i'm trying to but this window is too big for that resolution! this should never happen! never! is this supposed to be user friendly? i ran on more problems than using distributions that require to configure everyting by yourself
[15:35] <mrwes> fuad,: I was asking my own question about using an argument in a bash alias
[15:35] <gilster> photojim: u still here?
[15:35] <airtonix> any idea waht would cause audacious to prevent me from fastfowarding through a track? ie skipping to halfway?
[15:36] <matreya6> userek, Wine is a compatibility layer that tries to it's best, but sometimes you run into some bugs like this one.
[15:36] <fuad> i downloaded the i386,im using xp sp3.i cant run the live cd thing,it doesnt load with i choose 'try ubuntu without any changes to your computer' What is the problem?
[15:36] <locellcount> jrib: #gnome, hopefully someone in there knows how to reverse my folly! ;)
[15:36] <m477>  how can i run folder view like desktop on kd 4.2 ( widget) on gnome ?
[15:36] <matreya6> userek, *especially* when you use the Beta versions.
[15:36] <m477> kde
[15:36] <helper> hello got vedio .wmv i try media player. vlc. mplayer all same only voice no vedio can't find codec for them got any program can open it ?
[15:37] <userek> matreya6: but ubuntu should back to the normal resoltuion instead of keepeng me in 640x480 after the reboot even in gdm
[15:37] <airtonix> m477: like this ? http://www.gtk-apps.org/content/show.php?action=content&content=102890&PHPSESSID=2ae1780b04b110f99ef0e1fa8ecb73d1
[15:37] <sacarlson> ﻿slitaz: !codec
[15:37] <vmlinz> helper: try google medibuntu
[15:37] <helper> ok
[15:37] <m477> airtonix: yes
[15:37] <fuad> i downloaded the i386,im using xp sp3.i cant run the live cd thing,it doesnt load with i choose 'try ubuntu without any changes to your computer' What is the problem? Can somene help me?
[15:38] <matreya6> userek, true, that seems to be the bug you have encountered. There is also a non-graphical way to configure Xorg which might help you in this case.
[15:38] <airtonix> m477, does that help you?
[15:38] <TheFunkbomb> !appeal
[15:38] <vmlinz> helper: install w32codec / w64codec in the medibuntu repo
[15:38] <neoteny> linux rocks
[15:38] <airtonix> any idea waht would cause audacious to prevent me from fastfowarding through a track? ie skipping to halfway?
[15:39] <m477> airtonix: we will see when i install :)
[15:39] <userek> reboot *sigh*
[15:39] <ISCARIO> hi
[15:39] <matreya6> userek, Why would you reboot when you can drop to console mode instead?
[15:39] <xGeek> userek: Your resolution was fine prior to running the game?
[15:40] <dLeonX> SERVHELP
[15:40] <fuad> help me please
[15:40] <fuad> someone
[15:40] <ISCARIO> for waht fuad?
[15:40] <xGeek> whoa.. serious lag sorry
[15:41]  * airtonix helps fuad stand up out of the gutter
[15:41] <matreya6> XGeek, happened to me as well, once, latest fullscreen game even crashed me to the login screen after closing it. I know what I can expect when trying a Beta version of Wine...
[15:41] <Lint01> legend2440: you can use 'radeon' or 'radeonhd' drivers now, they promise add 3D acceleration some day
[15:41] <m477> airtonix: i run it and i dont have reaction
[15:42] <airtonix> m477, i assyme you have screenlets installed? sudo apt-get install screenlets
[15:42] <m477> airtonix: i have
[15:42] <vmlinz> fuad: Do you mean run the livecd? You can't boot into the livecd or something else?
[15:42] <m477> airtonix: i hava screenlets deamon
[15:43] <m477> airtonix: daemon*
[15:43] <airtonix> m477, and you moved the plugin to ~/.screenlets ?
[15:43] <chouchou> Hello, I don't know what I am doing wrong, I have install joomla on my hosting server http://www.wamphi.com/pairjobs the script run correctly there, but when I run the same script on my local PC using Ubuntu, php5.2 I have fatal error, undefined functions. I even switch register global on. but later turned it back off. what do need to install or configure to solve this issue?
[15:43] <ellar> help! did an update yesterday and lost all bookmarks under 'places' and in nautilus
[15:43] <m477> airtonix: i installed in manager
[15:44] <m477> airtonix: i have folderviewer in manager
[15:44] <airtonix> m477, and it shows up in the list to use?
[15:44] <m477> airtonix: yes
[15:44] <m477> airtonix: i click start and nothing
[15:44] <airtonix> m477, are you runnign a compositer ? like compiz?
[15:44] <m477> airtonix: yes
[15:44] <airtonix> m477, sure its not hidden in the widget layer?
[15:45] <troythetechguy> I just installed the latest header updates for Hardy, and my graphics are messed up.  Nvidia says, "ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."  After doing this, I have the same low res graphics.  Any ideas?
[15:46] <m477> airtonix: im not sure but i have other widgets
[15:47] <airtonix> m477, i just installed it manually and ran it, works fine
[15:47] <sacarlson> ﻿troythetechguy: only thing I got working on ubuntu 8.04 is running with the nv driver
[15:47] <m477> airtonix: widget layer i have turned off
[15:47] <Bakagringo> Hello
[15:48] <NarbeH> matreya6: sorry
[15:48] <Bakagringo> I'm having a problem with ubuntu server and OpenSSH
[15:48] <Bakagringo> ./ does not work
[15:48] <NarbeH> matreya6: now i can ping 192.168.1.2
[15:48] <troythetechguy> sacarlson: Can you refresh my memory on how to install the nv driver, its been  awhile.
[15:48] <Bakagringo> or it works but cannot find the file I'm trying to launch
[15:48]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por el momento
[15:48] <Bakagringo> all chmod is correct
[15:48] <jrib> Bakagringo: that doesn't make sense.  pastebin
[15:48] <matreya6> NarbeH, what webserver have you installed? Apache2, or something else?
[15:48] <jrib> !away > D3f0
[15:48] <TheFunkbomb> !appeal
[15:49] <NarbeH> matreya6: Apache2 . (LAMP)
[15:49] <sacarlson> ﻿troythetechguy:  I set the nvidia propriatary off then manualy modified the xorg.conf
[15:49] <Bakagringo> What pastebin? Paste here or is there a command for it?
[15:49] <jrib> !pastebin | Bakagringo
[15:49] <thiebaude> !pastebin
[15:49] <matreya6> Narbeh, please pastebin your httpd.conf (if it contains passwords, erase the in the pastebin(!!) )
[15:50] <NarbeH> matreya6:
[15:50] <NarbeH> ok
[15:50] <sacarlson> ﻿troythetechguy:  however you installed you propriatary do the reverse or maybe just leave them it shouldn't mater.  I'll paste my xorg.conf
[15:51] <airtonix> any idea waht would cause audacious to prevent me from fastfowarding through a track? ie skipping to halfway? i try to fastforward and the track starts from the beginning
[15:51] <consoleart> hi , suddenly my sound drivers does not work on Jaunty...can someone help me
[15:51] <Bakagringo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/168819/
[15:51] <consoleart> iam not able to hear any sound
[15:51] <matreya6> airtonix, please refer to a channel about Audacity
[15:52] <ikonia> TheFunkbomb: what's the problem ?
[15:52] <TheFunkbomb> what?
[15:52] <NarbeH> matreya6: sorry where is it? httpd..
[15:52] <LjL> !botabuse | TheFunkbomb
[15:52] <locellcount> hmmm, #gnome seems really quiet at the moment, anyone in here know how I can get my menubar back in gedit after I fuxored it by uninstalling it?
[15:52] <TheFunkbomb> where did I abuse the bot?
[15:52] <sacarlson> ﻿troythetechguy:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/168821/
[15:52] <airtonix> any idea waht would cause audacious to prevent me from fastfowarding through a track? ie skipping to halfway? i try to fastforward and the track starts from the beginning
[15:53] <sacarlson> ﻿troythetechguy: all you should have to change is the device section
[15:53] <gharz> guys, i'm using vuze on ubuntu 8.10... everytime i open it always downloads Azureus.4.2.0.2.jar... i've finished downloading it and it always keeps on asking me to restart my vuze.... how do i get rid of this Azurues.4.x.x.jar thing??? nobody answers from #azureus ... sorry
[15:53] <consoleart> hi alll...my sound cards does not seem to work...can anybody help me
[15:53] <airtonix> matreya6, audacity != audacious
[15:53] <jrib> !who | Bakagringo
[15:53] <jens> hi
[15:53] <matreya6> airtonix, yes you are right sorry...
[15:54] <gharz> anyone?
[15:54] <Bakagringo> jrib > ok, I'll remember that till next time. The pastebin was for you
[15:55] <matreya6> NarbeH, it might be called apache.conf or apache2.conf
[15:55] <jens> spricht hier jemand deutsch ?
[15:55] <LjL> !de | jens
[15:55] <NarbeH> matreya6: ok
[15:55] <jrib> Bakagringo: what arch?
[15:55] <jens> danke unbottu
[15:55] <frustphil> how to deactivate and activate compiz?
[15:56] <ikonia> frustphil: system->administration->destkop effects menu
[15:56] <Bakagringo> jrib > arch?
[15:56] <jrib> Bakagringo: architecture?
[15:56] <meoblast001> what is the name of the package for the xorg development libraries
[15:56] <Bakagringo> 64
[15:56] <xangua> frustphil: sys>prefs>appearence>efects
[15:56] <lanoxx> is it enough to add a user to the admin group to give him sudo rights?
[15:56] <TheFunkbomb> ikonia, problem?
[15:56] <Bakagringo> jrib> 64-bit
[15:56] <lanoxx> for example to let him update etc?
[15:56] <lanoxx> or do i need to do something else?
[15:56] <ikonia> TheFunkbomb: I thought you had an issue the way you where repeating asking the bot
[15:56] <jtaji> lanoxx: yes that's all
[15:56] <jrib> Bakagringo: and I'm guessing sc_serv is not 32bit...?
[15:57] <TheFunkbomb> oh, I lost the link.  That's all
[15:57] <ikonia> cool
[15:57] <consoleart> hi, can someebody please help me to fix my audio drivers...
[15:57] <Bakagringo> jrib > most probably it is. Any backwards compatibility?
[15:57] <jrib> Bakagringo: install the ia32-libs package and try again
[15:57] <Bakagringo> jrib > ok, I will try that, thank you.
[15:58] <lfaraone> Is there any way to migrate to encrypted home directories if you already have an installation?
[15:58] <lanoxx> jtaji, hmm does he relogin then?
[15:59] <yahoo> .....
[15:59] <jtaji> lanoxx: yeah
[16:00] <solexious> Hia. I want to run a server, for file storage, web server etc, but time to time I will need to log into gnome. Should I install ubuntu desktop, or server and add gdm?
[16:01] <ikonia> solexious: just use the desktop CD
[16:01] <ikonia> solexious: it makes an excellent server
[16:02] <sacarlson> ﻿solexious: I would just install the desktop
[16:02] <ellar> no one has the same problem? did an update yesterday and lost all bookmarks under 'places' and in nautilus
[16:02] <solexious> ikonia sacarlson, thanks both
[16:02] <userek> blah, display manager sucks 100% cpu before it starts if i connect two monitors -_-'
[16:02] <noccy_> good afternoon. it seems like my ubuntu partition is gone (!)
[16:03] <userek> i've got one more question, i've installed catalyst drivers and ubuntu installed some xgl beryl or whatever without asking me whether i want to use it or not, how do i disble it?
[16:03] <noccy_> i'm looking at the drive in gparted, and i see /dev/sdb1 as ntfs (which is correct), and then i have /dev/sdb2 listed as unknown.
[16:03] <jrib> userek: system -> preferences -> appearance -> effects
[16:04] <helper> when i do ls -l got temporary files like kad and kad~ how to remove or clear temporary files ?
[16:04] <steve_> Is there any tools for automounting partitions?
[16:04] <userek> jrib: thanks
[16:04] <noccy_> grub gives me error 22 after attempting to edit the menu.lst in order to properly boot both linux and windows
[16:04] <jrib> !fstab | steve_
[16:05] <WIGGMPk> I keep getting an error about loading "ubuntulooks" its causing firefox to crash.. How can I fix this?
[16:05] <steve_> In kubuntu, how can I set a keyboard key to open a console?
[16:05] <Bakagringo> Does anyone remember the command for getting the process list?
[16:06] <rumpel2> Bakagringo, ps
[16:06] <troythetechguy> sacarlson: Thanks for the help. I'm going to give it a try now.
[16:06] <Bakagringo> rumpel2: thanks
[16:06] <Tobydarnley> Hey, anyone now how to change vinagre/vnc so that it looks at port 80 or 443 for incoming requests
[16:07] <wellerson> loo[o
[16:07] <meoblast001> what is the name of the package with development files for X11
[16:07] <sebsebseb> Tobydarnley: in the VNC config I think
[16:07] <wellerson> brasil
[16:07] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  Tobydarnley
[16:08] <vmlinz> !freenx
[16:08] <Dante123> hi all, installed 9.04 on computer but it doesn't recognize my acer x193w monitor nor give me all the resolutions it is capable of.  Using nvidia driver, but cant seem to get the rez thing fixed (I want 1440 x900 but it doesnt go that high).  On kids computer with 9.04 and same monitor...the nividia driver works fine with monitor...but took some fiddling to get it to work or it fixed itself...I cant remember.  Any ideas?
[16:08] <server2> hi ubuntu world
[16:09] <n8tuser> Dante123 -> copy the xorg.conf config file from your kids computer
[16:09] <microtechno> hi, i am after some help with the ati radeon 2100 in ubuntu
[16:10] <meoblast001> configure: error: Could not compile basic X program.
[16:11] <Dante123> n8tuser im a little leery of that, because kids just told me they have to manually reset the res to 1440x900 everytime they boot up...but it does recognize the acer monitor and give all the rez....but not sure their xorg is totally setup right.
[16:12] <Tobydarnley> where is the vnc/vinagre server configuration file then?
[16:12] <meoblast001> what is the name of the package with development files for X11
[16:12] <fermulator> Does anyone have l4d/tf2 working in WINE with the Radeon Open Source drivers?
[16:12] <bodom> join #sidux
[16:12] <n8tuser> Dante123 -> you can add the res you need to that file,  copy their working corrected one
[16:12] <sacarlson> noccy:  I might try look at this for your grub error 22  tell me how it goes http://paste.ubuntu.com/168833/
[16:12] <thiebaude> !sidux
[16:12] <Dante123> n8tuser i do have the xorg.conf file from when this computer had 8.04...then 8.10 on it?  Should I try that one, and if so what kind of backup command should I run first....
[16:13] <n8tuser> Dante123 -> yah try it.
[16:13] <n8tuser> backup should be like cp file1 file2
[16:13] <Dante123> n8tuser, okay any need to run some kind of backup command
[16:14] <Brack10>  I'm trying to mount an hfsplus image on a FAT32 usb key....however even though it's mounted as rw, it says it's read only whenever I try and make changes to it.  I've tried chmodding the image file, and the mount location, even with 777, root can't create files or change permissions....Anyone have any ideas how I can get this thing writable?
[16:14] <helper> need program play vedio
[16:15] <rastaspirit> slt ya du monde? jai besoin d aide
[16:15] <thiebaude> !fr
[16:16] <harlemdavvey> guys how can i see how many possible sessions i can open in my pc?? i mean.. how can i see how many window managers i have in my pc?
[16:16] <harlemdavvey> guys how can i see how many possible sessions i can open in my pc?? i mean.. how can i see how many window managers i have in my pc? because i would like to delete some window manager
[16:17] <xangua> harlemdavvey: you can use only one window manager at the time ¿¿¿¿
[16:17] <xangua> ¿¿¿
[16:17] <gartral> ok... ive effectivly made a giant jumble out of my sound systems..
[16:17] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[16:18] <harlemdavvey> xangua: i don't know.. i guess yes, i can use only one at a time but what i want to see if i can delete some of them?
[16:18] <thiebaude> harlemdavvey: sudo apt-get remove
[16:18] <harlemdavvey> thiebaude: sudo apt-get remove xxx  where xxx stands for the name of the window manager i wanna remove?
[16:18] <yuanao> excuse me ,but I don't know what happened to my k3b ,it will pop out an "internal error" after writing an iso file to a disc when begin verify md5
[16:18] <gartral> (oops) is it safe to remove alsa and pulse from my machine?
[16:18] <thiebaude> harlemdavvey: exactly
[16:19] <harlemdavvey> gartral: there are no problems with that;)
[16:19] <xangua> harlemdavvey: and what window manager have you installed¿
[16:19] <yuanao> gnome?
[16:19] <chuck_> harlemdavvey, ubuntu comes with metacity and compiz by default if you did not add another thats all you have.
[16:19] <harlemdavvey> xangua: i have lots of ... ion3 , fwm, openbox, fluxbox, enlightment, ... but i want to remove them coz they crash or the annoy me
[16:19] <harlemdavvey> chuck_: yea i know that
[16:20] <thiebaude> harlemdavvey: just delete them in the terminal or synaptic
[16:20] <Switchfoot> hello
[16:20] <harlemdavvey> thiebaude: ok;) i will
[16:20] <gartral> harlemdavvey: well.. for me there might be... i have Oss ALSA and Pulse all installed, and the way audio is routed... it somehow needs all three for me to hear anything
[16:20] <Switchfoot> hey what's a good program to copy encrypted dvds?
[16:20] <harlemdavvey> gartral: well, not in my case then...
[16:20] <thiebaude> harlemdavvey: have a good day :)
[16:20] <harlemdavvey> thiebaude;) thanks
[16:20] <harlemdavvey> utoo
[16:21] <gartral> !info dvd95 > Switchfoot
[16:21] <thiebaude> your welcomed
[16:21] <Switchfoot> thx
[16:22] <harlemdavvey> is there someone who actually is using a light windowmanager like fluxbox?
[16:22] <yuanao> sorry,but is there anyone encounter the problem of k3b when verify md5?
[16:22] <thiebaude> harlemdavvey: i'am
[16:22] <thiebaude> openbox, too
[16:22] <desmond> !64 bit
[16:22] <harlemdavvey> thiebaude: what are you using?
[16:22] <gartral> !86_64
[16:23]  * __d3f0__ is away: Ausente por el momento
[16:23] <fornix> !x86_64
[16:23] <gartral> !search 64
[16:23] <thiebaude> harlemdavvey: i use openbox mostly, but find myself using gnome more, since system resources are better in 9.04 then 8.10
[16:24] <gartral> !64bit > desmond
[16:25] <sacarlson> ﻿harlemdavvey: I have used DSL (dam small linux) but not on ubuntu
[16:25] <airtonix> i fail at maths in the bash shell, how to make it return a percantage as a fraction? ie instead of (100*380)/120 - 33%, i want it to be returned as 0.33
[16:25] <harlemdavvey> sacarlson: how was it? did you like it?
[16:26] <sacarlson> it's ok if all you need a browser and a few other minimal things
[16:26] <Lunar_Lamp> !tracker
[16:27] <fornix> When I pause amarok and play a movie in mplayer, the movie plays in slow motion. This becomes normal once I quit Amarok. Ny ideas why this is happening?
[16:27] <gartral> fornix: its due to the MASSIVE amount of resources amarok takes up..
[16:28] <fornix> gartral: does it take resources when it is paused??
[16:28] <fermulator> fornix: not really an answer, ... but vlc works fine. ;/  amarok shouldn't use any resources (well, a minor amount perhaps) while it's paused
[16:28] <fornix> i doubt
[16:28] <gartral> fornix: it takes up resources when its open and stopped
[16:28] <fornix> i thought it might be a sound issue. maybe pulseaudio
[16:29] <drone> anyone here using ubuntu on an msik9a2 platinum mobo? or possibly know someone who is?
[16:29] <drone> I'm having a lot of trouble with the onboard promise raid chip and I can't seem to find anyone who is sharing my pain with this ;)
[16:30] <gartral> fornix fermulator amarok isn't meant to be run in gnome, and its the KDE libs that take up the resources, seeing as vlc uses QT as well, it puts extra strain on the system
[16:30] <fornix> gartral: the same thing happens when i log in kde too
[16:30] <fermulator> gartral: but we all know amarok is the best music player/manager out there, there's no "gnome" equivilant
[16:31] <gartral> fornix: if you would be so kind as to try Amarok and Dragon player, we can see if my info is correct
[16:31] <gilster> l
[16:31] <gartral> fermulator: give songbird and exial a bit more time, their catching up nicly
[16:32] <fornix> gartral: now i tried to play video. I have amarok paused. The total CPU usage is 12%
[16:32] <fornix> using top to check cpu usage
[16:32] <fermulator> gartral: never tried exial, but songbird?  I mean, songbird is great for an iTunes replacement, but not a "winamp" replacement.  I always say Songbird as an iTunes replacement, and amarok as the Winamp replace.ment
[16:32] <fornix> mplayer taking 2.3% CPU
[16:32] <gartral> fornix: ok, top is *usable* for CPU, but don't expect "real" ram indications
[16:33] <fornix> I have plenty of ram. its not even being half used. i have 2 GB ram
[16:33] <allexxx> hello
[16:33] <gartral> fornix: dont trust top for ram, it's just a bad idea
[16:33] <Nibble> How i can install an older kernel?!
[16:34] <fornix> I think its more of a bug. just have to find out where the bug is. is it in amarok, mplayer or pulseaudio or something else
[16:34] <f190> hi. I tried to install ubuntu on a friend's computer yesterday, and we set the bios to boot from the cd, but when we powered on, the cdrom drive attempted to read the disk and the computer never turned on. now the cdrom drive doesn't work.
[16:34] <allexxx> eimai kainourios sto ubuntu
[16:34] <f190> any ideas what?
[16:34] <f190> why"
[16:35] <gartral> f190: that's more hardware related, and as such, off-topic, i'de take it too ##hardware
[16:35] <f190> alright thanks gartral
[16:35] <AaronMT> f190: Your question doesnt even make sense
[16:35] <sawaf> someone please help me resolve this dependency error on Jaunty http://rafb.net/p/4j2exU35.html
[16:36] <f190> why not AaronMT . I am wondering if anyone has heard of a computer attempt to boot from cd, then the cdrom drive loses funcionality after that attempt
[16:36] <helper> someone give me program i can play vedio on ubuntu . media player only sound work where i can download it's codec ?
[16:36] <allexxx> zitw protasi epikoinwnias
[16:36] <DJones> !gr | allexxx
[16:37] <AaronMT> f190: You say the CDRom drive attempted to read yet your computer 'did not turn on'
[16:37] <shesek> can I mount an NTFS partition from busybox ash? (I opened it from Ubuntu installtion disk, I need to access an NTFS partition)
[16:37] <C-u30a> hi. i'm having trouble connecting to the internet doing a manual wpa/wpa2 connection. there are a lot of steps i followed but basically what it says here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=4cba0ffd406b9ebfbc583e8bfe7c14f2&t=571188  I'm running an atheros chipset on amd64
[16:37] <gartral> AaronMT: i think he meant it didn't boot/post
[16:37] <jake> f190 mabee the computer cd drive ove rheated
[16:37] <f190> yeah, it never completed it boot. the fan never turned on. only the cdrom drive spun and whirred and stuff.
[16:37] <gartral> f190: is it an HP? :P
[16:38] <okiloki> Where can i find an ISO of UNR 9.04? my laptop can't boot off usb
[16:38] <f190> its a dell
[16:38] <C-u30a> any thoughts or suggestions?
[16:38]  * gartral disengages
[16:38] <C-u30a> hi
[16:38] <AaronMT> f190: Set the bios to load from the HD, boot into Windows and check if Windows can read the CD you burned
[16:38] <f190> jake, why would it overheat on a boot? it was working perfectly fine before that. the computer actually only boots now when the cdrom drive is completely unplugged. even if there is no cd in there, it still thinks there is a cd.
[16:38] <allexxx> thanks
[16:38] <f190> the cd works fine on another computer
[16:39] <AaronMT> f190: Can it boot into the HD when it's set as the primary boot device
[16:39] <f190> it can, when the cdrom drive is unplugged.
[16:39] <f190> lemme find out if it can when the cdrom drive is still plugged, but the hd is set to primary
[16:40] <dan2k> hi all, i have a problem - just installed jaunty x64 on this PC (AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ NVidia GeForce 7600GT) and it won't let me go above a resolution of 800x600 - i've installed the proprietary drivers. why?
[16:40] <gartral> f190: that cdrom isnt on the same cable as the hd.. is it?
[16:40] <f190> nop
[16:40] <f190> nope"
[16:41] <gartral> dan2k: 180 drivers?
[16:41] <dan2k> yeah
[16:41] <dan2k> well
[16:41] <notguest> Hey guys, is there a program out there that specializes in helping with code translation (ie. french code to english code)
[16:41] <Twigathy_> What's the current status of SATA port multiplier support in ubuntu? :>
[16:41] <dan2k> i installed the 180 drivers through synaptic
[16:42] <gartral> dan2k: that shouldn't matter, System>Administration NVIDIA X server settings
[16:42] <matreya6> dan2k, did you also select them using Hardware Drivers under Administration?
[16:42] <archman> i can't run gnome-terminal after interpid to jaunty upgrade; when i run it in xterm as normal, it says: gnome-terminal: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libvte.so.9: undefined symbol: pango_layout_get_baseline
[16:43] <archman> as sudo: Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting.
[16:43] <dan2k> yes, matreya6, i did
[16:43] <dan2k> and gatral
[16:43] <dan2k> yeah from the nvidia settings it doesn't let me exceed 800x600
[16:44] <gartral> dan2k: do you know your monitor supports higher?
[16:44] <dan2k> actually
[16:44] <matreya6> Gotta cook now, enjoy yourselves, thanks for the answers and I hope that my answers have contributed a bit.
[16:44] <dan2k> it doesn't let me exceed 640x480!
[16:44] <dan2k> yeah, my monitor's native resolution is 1280x1024
[16:45] <Lint01> notguest: gettext?
[16:45] <gartral> dan2k: ahh, a nice big panel like mine... do you have an "Auto" option?
[16:45] <dan2k> yup - that's the one that's enabled
[16:45] <TheMaestro> does anyone know of a good MySQL Gui tool that works hassle-free in Ubuntu Intrepid
[16:45] <TheMaestro> ?
[16:45] <dan2k> shall i send you the contents of xorg.conf?
[16:45] <mr-ali> hi
[16:45] <mr-ali> any body hear me ?
[16:46] <AaronMT> TheMaestro: A query builder?
[16:46] <mr-ali> hello
[16:46] <sawaf> someone please help me resolve this dependency error on Jaunty http://rafb.net/p/4j2exU35.html
[16:46] <gartral> dan2k: this WILL log you out, but may fix X hit alt+sysrq (AKA printscreen)+k
[16:46] <Noble> I installed ubuntu-desktop on my server, and now I want it gone ^^
[16:46] <matreya6> TheMaestro, why not use PhpmyAdmin?
[16:46] <mr-ali> shia
[16:46] <mr-ali> shit
[16:46] <notguest> Thanks Lint01
[16:46] <TheMaestro> matreya6, ill need to install php and apache for that right?
[16:46] <matreya6> !language | mr-ali
[16:46] <gartral> !language > mr-ali
[16:46] <TheMaestro> AaronMT, yeah
[16:46] <TheMaestro> AaronMT, something on the lines of phpmyadmin
[16:47] <matreya6> TheMaestro, Yes, if it has not been installed already.
[16:47] <dan2k> back again
[16:47] <dan2k> nope
[16:47] <dan2k> still on 640
[16:48] <WIGGMPk1> Can anyone please help me with this? Synaptic crashes, and running upgrade from command line gives this http://paste.ubuntu.com/168859/
[16:48] <matreya6> TheMaestro, You could also connect to it using OpenOffice Base, or the MS Access clone Kexi.
[16:48] <dan2k> and nothing changed in the nvidia settings either... what was that command gatral?
[16:48] <Dream> how do you uninstall things *feels mega noob*
[16:48] <dan2k> applications>add/remove
[16:48] <matreya6> Allright, really gotta cook now, bye everyone.
[16:48] <TheMaestro> Dream, sudo apt-get remove name --purge
[16:48] <tasos> please is anybody to tell me about upgrading from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 ? it is dangerous ti lost some data from my home file?
[16:48] <xxiao> installed tomcat/apache2, tried to set up proxypass under sites-available, however the http request is not forwarded to tomcat "403 forbidden"
[16:48] <Dream> oki
[16:49] <Dream> thanks maestro
[16:49] <xxiao> any document on that? tomcat/apache2/hardy
[16:49] <TheMaestro> matreya6, no issues if i install it via synaptic right? (old version)
[16:49] <sacarlson> ﻿ dan2k: you can try direct from nvidia they have a version 185 but it didn't work for me on hardy.  same problem as you.  I moved to the nv driver
[16:49] <archman> anyone fixed the problem with gnome-terminal after upgrading to jaunty?
[16:50] <gartral> dan2k: yea, at this point, id'e strip out the 180's and use envy
[16:50] <matreya6> TheMaestro, synaptic is generally free of issues, but Kexi will install al lot of packages if you don't have KDE4 installed.
[16:50] <dan2k> actually, i'm dling the 173s now
[16:50] <dan2k> what's envy?
[16:50] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k: ya someone said the envy-ng worked for them
[16:51] <dan2k> btw how do you do the dan2k: thing?
[16:51] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k: ?
[16:51] <TheMaestro> matreya6, im on gnome..so i guess ill go with php..thanks
[16:51] <TheFunkbomb> hello
[16:51] <dan2k> haha, i mean like target me with the message
[16:52] <dan2k> to it says "sacarlson: hi"
[16:52] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k:  I just add your symbol to the start of the line
[16:52] <mr-ali> hi
[16:52] <mr-ali> hackers
[16:52] <mr-ali> what's up
[16:52] <archman> lol
[16:52] <notguest> Ubuntu users hackers? hehe
[16:52] <dan2k> my symbol?
[16:52] <archman> hacklers
[16:52] <dan2k> sacarlson hi
[16:52] <mr-ali> haha i'm just fun
[16:52] <dead_rabbit> i think i may be sick
[16:53] <gartral> !ot | mr-ali
[16:53] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k: ya seems to highlight even if not in the start
[16:53] <dan2k> it doesn't work for me
[16:53] <mr-ali> haha nice
[16:53] <dan2k> what symmbol?
[16:53] <dan2k> you mean my alias?
[16:53] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k: nick name symbol whatever
[16:54] <dan2k> sacarlson so is this targeting you now?
[16:54]  * gartral always called it a callsign 
[16:54] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k: yes
[16:54] <WarriorSlayer> ppl which is the name of the non proprietary nvidia driver?
[16:54] <dan2k> sacarlson cool
[16:54] <WarriorSlayer> the name of the package i mean
[16:54] <tones> guys, i discovered about running two X Servers recently, but whenever i run "startx /usr/bin/kdm -- :1" it exits even if the DISPLAY variable is set
[16:54] <gartral> !info envy-ng | WarriorSlayer
[16:54] <ikonia> !envyng
[16:54] <mr-ali> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPecBxM2f6c < ubuntu X Vista hehe
[16:55] <archman> I Need help with gnome-terminal. Anyone? (ask to ask)
[16:55] <dan2k> gartral what now? 173 refuses to download
[16:55] <AaronMT> f190: any luck?
[16:55] <WIGGMPk1> This is soo freaking frustraiting.. Can anyone help me solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/168865/
[16:55] <eseven73> mr-ali, don't post youtube videos here, the ops will have your head for that
[16:55] <mr-ali> WIGGMPK1 > i will hellp u
[16:55] <dan2k> gartral btw, i forgot to tell you, advanced visual effects works
[16:55] <tones> guys, i discovered about running two X Servers recently, but whenever i run "startx /usr/bin/kdm -- :1" it exits even if the DISPLAY variable is set. anybody know why this is?
[16:55] <gartral> dan2k: you need to deactivate the 177s/180s, reboot and retry with 173s,
[16:56] <mr-ali> thanks eseven73
[16:56] <dan2k> 177s
[16:56] <dan2k> ?
[16:56] <dan2k> i don't have 177s
[16:56] <gartral> dan2k: that's neat.. if you hade a palmtop :P
[16:56] <mrubcich> what is xorg
[16:56] <penguins2387> CHEESE!
[16:56] <tones> guys, i discovered about running two X Servers recently, but whenever i run "startx /usr/bin/kdm -- :1" it exits even if the DISPLAY variable is set. anybody know why this is?
[16:56] <andre_pl> I've just noticed something strange this morning, my Desktop folder has been renamed to 'desktop' along with a couple of other folders in my home directory.
[16:56] <dan2k> gartral haha yeah
[16:56] <WIGGMPk1> mr-ali: im in your debt.. I am running Jaunty amd64... synaptic crashes when I open it.. and running apt-get upgrade -y tells me that I need to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and I get the results in the pastebin
[16:56] <eseven73> !repeat | tones
[16:56] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k: someone else got it working with a different cable to his monitor.  if the monitor fails to comunicate with your box it has this effect.
[16:57] <dan2k> Oo
[16:57] <gartral> dan2k: you ARE using DVI.. yes?
[16:57] <mrubcich> what is xorg?
[16:57] <dan2k> sacarlson the cable works fine in vista
[16:57] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k: or if your monitor is not presently on the list of recognized devices
[16:57] <tones> ubottu: thanks. really helpful
[16:57] <dan2k> gartral i'm using VGA
[16:57] <dead_rabbit> the window server for linux
[16:57] <gartral> !X > mrubcich
[16:57] <Dream> why cant i remove firefox and pidgin?
[16:58] <penguins2387> anyone know how to force an iphone clone to synch?
[16:58] <dan2k> sacarlson can you please elaborate?
[16:58] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k:  ya it worked fine in ubuntu 7.04 too but not anymore.
[16:58] <f190> AaronMT, I been pming jake, want me to pastebin the entire story for ya?
[16:58] <AaronMT> f190: no its ok
[16:58] <gartral> dan2k: ahh.. your card has dvi out.. right (and monitor a DVI in, i'de hope)
[16:58] <tones> guys, i discovered about running two X Servers recently, but whenever i run "startx /usr/bin/kdm -- :1" it exits even if the DISPLAY variable is set. anybody know why this is?
[16:59] <dan2k> gartral my card has both dvi and vga out
[16:59] <dan2k> gartral as does my monitor
[16:59] <penguins2387> tones: yeah it can be because .xsessions isn't configured right
[16:59] <f190> but AaronMT , it appears to be a problem with the bios power management, leading to improper power supply to a graphics card or something
[16:59] <gartral> dan2k: easy fix.. buy a DVI cable
[16:59] <sacarlson> ﻿dan2k:  ya use the dvi and it will work not the vga one
[16:59] <dan2k> why can't i use a vga cable?
[16:59] <penguins2387> tones: I use gdmflexiserver if you type that in a terminal it will start two x sessions
[16:59] <helper> someone give me program i can play vedio on ubuntu . media player only sound work where i can download it's codec ?
[16:59] <dan2k> helper get VLC media plaer
[17:00] <tones> penguins2387: ok, thanks. ill try tha
[17:00] <sawaf> someone please help me resolve this dependency error on Jaunty http://rafb.net/p/4j2exU35.html
[17:00] <xangua> helper: have you alredy installed codecs¿
[17:00] <dan2k> helper sudo apt-get install vlc
[17:00] <gartral> dan2k: XFX series cards have this issue, i ran into it myself :) i have a 6200
[17:00] <dan2k> gartral argh that's anoying
[17:00] <helper> dan2k, i did but only voice , where i can download codec of vlc, i search google didn't find :(
[17:00] <helper> the movie is .wmv
[17:00] <jrib> sawaf: no idea why that could possibly be?
[17:01] <dan2k> helper you don't need codecs for vlc :D
[17:01] <sawaf> jrib, dunno really
[17:01] <helper> dan2k, then why vedio not work only voice when i turn it ?
[17:01] <trimeta> The recent kernel upgrade in Hardy, from 2.6.24-23 to 2.6.24-24, what did it entail? Are there security updates there? Should I reboot my server to work under the new kernel, or just make sure that it's there when I next need to reboot for some other reason?
[17:01] <dan2k> helper are you sure the file has a video channel?
[17:01] <jrib> sawaf: well... did you recently enable any repositories?  Or install any debs outside the official repositories?
[17:01] <helper> dan2k, ya, i try it by windows work
[17:01] <phrozendead> I am having trouble hooking up an extra CRT display to a laptop that has no backlight on its screen. Since I'm running ubuntu 8.10 on it, I believe the Fn F7 key doesn't work. What other way is there to set up this display?
[17:01] <trimeta> I checked the Ubuntu Security Notices, but the kernel update wasn't mentioned...
[17:02] <penguins2387> tones: no problems when you log in to the new xsession and want to go back ctrl+alt f7 and to go back to the new one ctrl+alt+f9
[17:02] <sawaf> jrib, yes .. I enabled kubuntu experimental but then I disabled it again and removed amarok
[17:02] <sawaf> jrib, and I now I can't re-install it
[17:02] <tones> penguins2387: wouldnt it be on tty8?
[17:03] <jrib> sawaf: removing repositories does not remove software
[17:03] <penguins2387> tones: tty 8 is useually used for behind the scenes things it wont hurt you to switch to it but with gdmflexiserver it will be on 9
[17:03] <chuck_> helper, this site will help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[17:03] <penguins2387> tones: and 10 and 11 depending on how many user accounts you want to use and how many times you run it
[17:04] <helper> chuck_, ok thx
[17:04] <tones> penguins2387: ok, thanks loads :)
[17:04] <penguins2387> tones: np
[17:04] <sawaf> jrib, I removed amarok too after I installed it from the experimental repository
[17:04] <archman>  /join #ubuntu-xgl
[17:04] <mendez> hi chan
[17:04] <chuck_> helper, your welcome
[17:04] <sawaf> jrib, and I autoremoved all the deps
[17:05] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[17:05] <sawaf> jrib, so ?
[17:05] <segalerez> Hi, I'm not sure which is the right channel. My laptop heats and freezes since I upgraded to 9.04. Do you know anything about it?
[17:06] <mendez> someone can help me with injection over zd1211wd wifi usb dongle?
[17:06] <petrolman> Hi, I ve got an hd 4850 grafic card using the fglrx ati driver. 2D - 3D acceleration works fine, but videos are very slow. Is there an option for the xorg.conf to fix this problem?
[17:06] <kuhgarten> is there a movieplayer that supporsts A-B replays?
[17:07] <kuhgarten> Or at least a lightwight videocut-programm that supports loop-replay and fullscreen?
[17:08] <tekteen> kuhgarten, mplayer? vlc?
[17:08] <kuhgarten> petrolman: just flash-based or any video?
[17:08] <TheMaestro> im getting a 'could not determine type of stream' error while playing .mp4 files in totem
[17:08] <TheMaestro> any ideas
[17:08] <TheMaestro> ?
[17:08] <sawaf> jrib, any suggestions ? please ?
[17:08] <penguins2387> anyone having problems getting custom sounds to work with GDM? it took a while but I figured it out
[17:08] <kuhgarten> tekteen: vlc has A-B replays? where's that option?
[17:08] <petrolman> any video
[17:09] <tekteen> kuhgarten, explain what that is
[17:09] <tekteen> lol
[17:09] <jrib> sawaf: pastebin information (i'm a bit busy atm)
[17:09] <kuhgarten> tekteen: loop a selected part of a video
[17:09] <tekteen> I don't know how to do that
[17:09] <tekteen> lol
[17:09] <jrib> sawaf: basically run « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » on those packages that don't install.  Try to install just that package that is in the error and then run « apt-cache policy » on that too
[17:10] <mendez> someone explain me how to patch zd1211wr driver for injection?
[17:10] <WIGGMPk1> Anyone can feel free to take a stab at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/168865/ Laptop is going thru this window by the end of the day I think... Thanks in advance
[17:11] <kuhgarten> tekteen: took me long enouph to find a windows program for that (GOMplayer) , but I'd prefer linux
[17:11] <mendez> !help
[17:11] <tekteen> kuhgarten, vlc does do it
[17:11] <penguins2387> mendez: whats up
[17:11] <tekteen> kuhgarten, http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=46231&p=146405
[17:11] <mendez> !search zd1211rw
[17:12] <chuck_> petrolman, what player are you using and did you try another player with the same results
[17:12] <tekteen> kuhgarten, you not need to do everything there
[17:12] <tekteen> kuhgarten, go to tools --> advanced controls
[17:12] <benni> can someone tell me why my ubuntu uses swap and becomes dog slow when there are 3GB of RAM left?
[17:12] <penguins2387> well have fun all I'm outta here
[17:12] <the7thmagus> hey, everytime I play any fullscreen game (both native or wine), my monitor blanks out and gives me a frequency error. what's up with this?
[17:12] <tekteen> kuhgarten, then I see it :-)
[17:12] <kuhgarten> tekteen: Wohoo, thx. Once again I fall in love with vlc. why didn't I notice advanced features??
[17:13] <tones> benni: do you hear disk thrashing when it happens?
[17:13] <mendez> penguins2387: i can't get injection work under 8.10 on zd1211rq device
[17:13] <Segadude> hey peeps. I am dieing to install Ubuntu on my iBook G4 but I dont kno where to start.
[17:13] <benni> tones: I think so, but most of the time I listen to music
[17:13] <mrubcich> segadude made a live cd and just go to town
[17:13] <the7thmagus> hey, everytime I play any fullscreen game (both native or wine), my monitor blanks out and gives me a frequency error. what's up with this?
[17:14] <mr-ali> brothers
[17:14] <mrubcich> whats xorg?
[17:14] <tones> benni: it may be that your swap is configured incorrectly in /etc/fstab.
[17:14] <mr-ali> how can i make xchat make alert for me if some one talk while i'm close windows for program
[17:14] <gartral> mrubcich: that musthave been the 50th time you asked that
[17:14] <Segadude> mrubcich: Where do I download it?
[17:15] <mrubcich> gartral: its like the 2nd or 3rd :P, im alittle confused
[17:15] <benni> tones: http://pastebin.ca/1418334
[17:15] <tekteen> mr-ali, click in the X in the programs tray next to the clock
[17:15] <gartral> Segadude: im not sure Ubuntu has any current ISOs for powerpc macs anymore
[17:15] <sawaf> jrib, I dunno why it wants to fetch the experimental packages again !
[17:15] <gartral> !X | mrubcich
[17:16] <digitalranger> In older versions of Ubuntu there used to be a system app that would show the list of installed hardware. I can't find it in 9.04. I need to find out the driver that ubuntu is using for my webcam.
[17:16] <tones> benni: run [ ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | grep sda5 | awk '{ print $8 }' ]
[17:16] <sawaf> How can I clear the stuff retrieved by apt-get update ?
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> sawaf, apt-get autoclean
[17:16] <tones> benni: does it output 352a79a7-2405-4854-99b8-4c75d205a257
[17:16] <petrolman> chuck_, no, I only used the totem video player so far. Now I ve installed mplayer, it works with mplayer, hm...
[17:17] <benni> tones: yes
 i didn't understand
[17:17] <joTTho> i search a tool for anonym surfing.
[17:17] <tones> ok, then its not your fstab. im out of ideas :s
[17:17] <tones> benni: ok, then its not your fstab. im out of ideas :s sorry
[17:17] <Segadude> Im also haveing problems with the video on my desktop. When I boot into ubuntu theres just an thin orange line at the top of the screen
[17:18] <tekteen> mr-ali, I need to go
[17:18] <tekteen> sorry
[17:18] <sacarlson> ﻿digitalranger:  lsusb
[17:18] <sawaf> arvind_khadri, not the packages .. I want to delete the metadata retrieved by apt-get update
[17:18] <benni> tones: thanks anyway :)
[17:18] <tones> benni: no worries :)
[17:18] <gartral> digitalranger: lsusb will tell you what your webcam is reported as, you can use lsmod and a clever grep to find the module, or driver it uses
[17:18] <arvind_khadri> sawaf, it does that too
[17:19] <sawaf> arvind_khadri, how come the next apt-get update is fast then ?
[17:19] <digitalranger> gartral: thank you, any hints on the grep?
[17:19] <benni> tones: the anoying thins is, the system becomes unresponsive, audio stutters, etc, really sad to see 3GB free RAM unused
[17:20] <lebinhui> hi
[17:20] <lebinhui> 大家好阿
[17:20] <lebinhui> 有没中国的
[17:20] <kuhgarten> can someone help me to include windows in grub again? (vanished after 9.04 install and seems to be quite difficult to fix because of 2 HDs)
[17:20] <HeXiLeD> 大家好阿
[17:20] <gartral> digitalranger: i wouldd issue something resembleing lsmod | grep <name of camera>
[17:20] <arvind_khadri> digitalranger, cams use gspca
[17:20] <tones> benni: can you switch to another tty while it happens?
[17:20] <yokobr> wtf
[17:20] <mabus> !english
[17:20] <digitalranger> thanks
[17:20] <Segadude> Im also haveing problems with the video on my desktop. When I boot into ubuntu theres just an thin orange line at the top of the screen
[17:20] <gartral> arvind_khadri: not always, your forgetting about v4l and v4l2
[17:20] <mr-ali> 大家好阿大家好阿大家好阿
[17:21] <benni> tones: swap is almost as big as used ram at the moment, system is fine, but as swap fills its really bad
[17:21] <mr-ali> 大好阿家
[17:21] <lebinhui> 哈哈 你们是哪里的？
[17:21] <mabus> stop with the high unicode guys
[17:21] <sawaf> arvind_khadri, can you help me with this please ? http://rafb.net/p/4j2exU35.html
[17:21] <mabus> !english lebinhui
[17:21] <mabus> !english
[17:21] <arvind_khadri> Segadude, set your vga line in menu.lst to be proper
[17:21] <arvind_khadri> gartral, they are driver types iirc, and gspca is the module name
[17:21] <gartral> !english > mr-ali, lebinhui
[17:22] <Segadude> arvind_khadri: ???
[17:22] <Lint01> how to enable passive mode in 'ftp' console client?
[17:22] <sacarlson> ﻿kuhgarten:  paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[17:22] <tones> benni: i cant think of much else to do. maybe disable the swap completely?
[17:22] <mr-ali> i was saying to <lebinhui> speak english only
[17:22] <benni> tones: when running swapoff -a the swap empties but takes the whole system down most of the time
[17:22] <benni> can I permanently disable it?
[17:23] <tones> comment out the swap in your fstab and see what happens when you reboot..
[17:23] <arvind_khadri> sawaf, sud apt-get install -f
[17:23] <benni> tones: I'll try
[17:25] <lebinhui> 都没人说话阿
[17:25] <petrolman> I replace fglrx by radeon again. Too buggy this ati driver. If I would have enough time and man power I would develop a working driver for ati cards :-)
[17:25] <Fezzler> Someone sent a *Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect on me - are they trying to hack me?
[17:25] <mendez> i have a problem with zd1211rw device and injection under ubuntu 8.10...someone explain how to patch for injection?
[17:25] <tones> Fezzler: lol no
[17:25] <Fezzler> tones>> why would they do that
[17:25] <jansen> how do i configure my grub?
[17:25] <tones> Fezzler: it might have been the server or just a joke
[17:26] <thinkpadx61> i have a number of files containing a ':' in their filename, i would like to replace that character with e.g. '_'
[17:26] <arvind_khadri> jansen, configure to do what ?
[17:26] <Fezzler> tones>> how is that a joke?
[17:26] <thinkpadx61> how should i do that?
[17:26] <Segadude> Anyone kno how to get a AtherOS wireless card working?
[17:26] <arvind_khadri> jansen, edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:26] <Fezzler> tones>> can I block it or mask it
[17:26] <tones> Fezzler: not everyone in this world is sane...
[17:26] <sacarlson> ﻿jansen: edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[17:26] <tones> Fezzler: depends on your client, maybe
[17:26] <Fezzler> xchat
[17:26] <Fezzler> tones>> xchat
[17:26] <benni> tones: Ok its gone, let's see how it works out
[17:27] <tones> Fezzler: look around the settings, see what you find
[17:27] <asunder> What is the best way (through terminal) of deleting the first N characters of a filename?
[17:27] <sacarlson> ﻿Segadude: ya my favorite card
[17:27] <tones> benni: ok, hope it works :)
[17:27] <Naruken> I have a question, does anybody now how to force the instalation of an .bin that is x32, on x64?
[17:27] <Segadude> sacarlson: so u kno how?
[17:27] <karim> hi
[17:27] <sawaf> jrib, nothing :-(
[17:28] <arvind_khadri> asunder, using sed
[17:28] <jrib> sawaf: did you pastebin anything?
[17:28] <arvind_khadri> asunder, sorry misread
[17:28] <sacarlson> ﻿Segadude: get the latest madwifi source and compile it to get the best results
[17:28] <Segadude> and is it worth upgradeing to 9.04?
[17:28] <karim> how is the uuid calcultated ? I have two identical drives partitionned indentically that have conflicting uuid
[17:28] <sawaf> jrib, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:28] <asunder> arvind_khadri: I tried using tr, but there doesn't seem to be an easy way.
[17:28] <jrib> sawaf: you didn't do what I said...
[17:29] <sawaf> jrib, I did !
[17:29] <jrib> sawaf: basically run « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » on those packages that don't install.  Try to install just that package that is in the error and then run « apt-cache policy » on that too
[17:29] <kuhgarten2> sacarlson: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/eLvDqX I forgot to say that I had trouble with grub in ubuntu 8.xx too
[17:29] <tones> Segadude: if you are confortable with what you have, stick with it. my printer went bust on jaunty (9.04)
[17:29] <Mike1_> how can i get DRI working with a Ati Rage XL and Jaunty?
[17:29] <arvind_khadri> asunder, you need to rename the files right ?
[17:29] <asunder> Yes.
[17:29] <jrib> sawaf: that's what you need to pastebin
[17:30] <Segadude> whats new on 9.04 anyways?
[17:30] <Mike1> Segadude: many new bugs =)
[17:30] <Naruken> Does anybody know?
[17:30] <tones> Mike1: lol
[17:30] <Segadude> mike1: lol
[17:30] <Mike1> new kernel, new versions of software...
[17:30] <arvind_khadri> asunder, no idea, you might need some kind of script to do it
[17:30] <gartral> i havent hit a single bug i couldnt work around
[17:31] <Mike1> nothing totally new
[17:31] <asunder> arvind_khadri:  I'm planning to write a bash script for it, but not really sure which command to use at the moment.
[17:31] <Segadude> I havent used ubuntu in so long I have 140 updates! :>
[17:31] <kuhgarten> Segadude: boot time improved very much
[17:31] <arvind_khadri> asunder, its pretty complex, you can try #bash
[17:32] <TheFunkbomb> hello
[17:32] <helper> someone give me program i can play vedio on ubuntu . media player only sound work where i can download it's codec ? try VLC not work
[17:32] <arvind_khadri> sawaf, just run sudo apt-get install -f and then install amarok
[17:32] <karim> it seems it's a gparted bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/148743
[17:32] <karim> now how can I change the uuid of a partiton ?
[17:33] <kuhgarten2> sacarlson: ?
[17:33] <chuck_> helper, mediabuntu site was no help
[17:33] <Naruken> I have a question, does anybody now how to force the instalation of an .bin that is x32, on x64?
[17:33] <chuck_> ?
[17:33] <sacarlson> ﻿kuhgarten2: see private message
[17:33] <helper> chuck_, same i install also w32codec and reopen vlc and media player still only sound no vedio :(
[17:33] <arvind_khadri> Naruken, you cant afaik
[17:33] <jaypur> I cant install ubuntu on my pavilion dv4-1180br, it just freeze and doesnt go further than that...
[17:33] <Naruken> I can't?
[17:33] <hbekel> asunder: FOO="123456789"; echo ${FOO:3}; # does this help?
[17:34] <TheFunkbomb> jaypur, where does it freeze?
[17:34] <jaypur> TheFunkbomb, it goes to splash screen, before the configuration time, and it goes like _ bliking
[17:34] <TheFunkbomb> how long did you give it?
[17:34] <jaypur> TheFunkbomb, i called hp, and microsft, neither of them give me support to remove vista....
[17:35] <sawaf> arvind_khadri, apt-get install -f does nothing
[17:35] <helper> chuck_, error from vlc : main error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `MSS2'.
[17:35] <helper> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[17:35] <jaypur> TheFunkbomb, hm not so much time, and when i try to install xp, it goes a fatal error
[17:35] <Segadude> is it safe for me to update in 9.04 in wubi?
[17:35] <TheFunkbomb> jaypur, if you don't want to remove vista, just boot up the live disk and delete it
[17:36] <jaypur> TheFunkbomb, i did it in live disk, but it goes _ bliking....
[17:36] <TheFunkbomb> weird
[17:36] <jaypur> TheFunkbomb, i wanna remove vista man, and just have ubuntu
[17:36] <Segadude> jaypur: try wubi http://wubi-installer.org/
[17:36] <TheFunkbomb> so, you couldn't even boot the live disk?
[17:36] <tones> Segadude: duno about that, but id just install ubuntu to a partition and be done with M$
[17:37] <billybigrigger_> can someone here help me with my crontab? i was reading a tutorial on setting up awstats and i entered a line into my crontab to update the webstats every 10 mins, but it hasnt' been updating
[17:37] <Segadude> yeah I think im gonna do that, tones
[17:37] <billybigrigger_> http://pastebin.com/f480e750b is my /etc/crontab
[17:38] <tones> Segadude: hate to say it, but you should probably at least keep an xp running in a small corner just in case ;)
[17:38] <chris__> Hey how do you install applets
[17:38] <chuck_> helper, did you try mplayer
[17:38] <helper> chuck_, yup same
[17:38] <sawaf> arvind_khadri, any clue ?
[17:39] <helper> chuck_, all format work expect .wmv extension
[17:39] <TheJointChief> Hello everyone, I have a question, non-urgent. I am a linux newb and was thinking of upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04. Anything I should be worried about, or do before upgrading? I have backed up all the files I "think' I need.
[17:40] <gartral> TheJointChief: do you have a media player, like a sansa or an ipod?
[17:40] <TheJointChief> I have an ipod, yes
[17:40] <TheJointChief> But I've never used it with linux
[17:40] <deany> im tryin to use rsync to backup my mp3s to a usb stick, its formatted as ext2.  i use "rsync -rv --delete /media/mp3 /media/usbstick" which copied them all to it initially, but further use of that command and it goes really slow thru each file, as though its copying them again, or scanning, i dunno, its just as slow as copying (its a slow usb stick anyway).  I thought it would just wizz thru it with whats changed (5 files have changed)
[17:41]  * tones is back (gone 00:02:06)
[17:41]  * tones is away: I'm kinda busy for a bit, ill be back :D
[17:41] <eseven73> !away > tones
[17:41] <eseven73> deany, have you tried grsync?
[17:41] <gartral> TheJointChief: the jump is worth it, but be prepared to replace a config file, or else your machine wont mount the ipod.. if you dont care/dont use Rockbox.. it wont matter
[17:42] <helper> chuck_, is there any convertor for .wmv to .mov ? .mov work
[17:42] <TheJointChief> gartral: Ok, thanks I appreciate it. Just had a few issues going from 8.04 to 8.10 (no sound) and didnt want a repeat hehe
[17:42] <TheJointChief> Anyway, wish me luck :)
[17:43]  * TheJointChief runs off to install the upgrade
[17:43] <gartral> TheJointChief: ahh, no, your current configs will survive this time! :P
[17:43] <TheJointChief> Sweet! :)
[17:43] <gartral> TheJointChief: one thing i found slightly anoying, was the rework of the way you get to your mixer
[17:44] <chuck_> helper, who can use mencoder to convert it but vlc and mplayer can play wmv files with no problem
[17:44] <TheJointChief> Where did they hide it?
[17:45] <gartral> TheJointChief: you now have to click the sound applet, and that gives a box with access to the mixer, double clicking the applet itself mutes all
[17:45] <TheJointChief> ahh, well I guess thats not so bad, on the whole :)
[17:45] <asunder> hbekel: Thanks, that did help.
[17:45] <TheJointChief> I'll get used to it
[17:45] <TheJointChief> heh
[17:46] <TheJointChief> Well it's about to install, so let me hop off here, don't want it to complain about me being on IRC
[17:46] <gartral> TheJointChief: yea, took me a week of accidentally muting myself before i remembered
[17:46] <TheJointChief> Thanks again :)
[17:46] <TheJointChief> lol
[17:46] <gartral> TheJointChief: good luck
[17:46]  * TheJointChief waves and crosses his fingers
[17:46] <TheJointChief> ty
[17:46] <user1949> how can I install ATI Radeon 3870 drivers on 9.04? I have tried the hardware driver manager, and it makes my screen flicker. Tried EnvyNG, makes my screen flicker...
[17:47] <gartral> user1949: i hope you didn't try envyNG with an ATI card, those are for nvidia!!
[17:48] <user1949> gartral: it has an ATI proprietary driver as well now
[17:48] <user1949> it just doesn't work
[17:48] <user1949> lol
[17:48] <gartral> user1949: have you tryed the Radeon drivers?
[17:49] <user1949> I read on the ubuntu forums that the official ATI drivers won't work with the new x.org
[17:50] <ODDity> user1949: what's wrong with the 9.04 drivers?
[17:50] <arvind_khadri> sawaf, you still getting the errors ?
[17:50] <scream> What command in terminal will find an absolute path?
[17:51] <user1949> ODDity: I read they are incompatible with Jaunty because Jaunty has the new version of X. Is that not true?
[17:51] <Chr|s_> how can I save the size of the terminal so it opens the same each time?
[17:52] <ODDity> user1949: I'm just asking cos i have an AIT card and it works fine out of the box with direct rendering and stuff
[17:52] <nohup_> good evening, eveybody...
[17:52] <arvind_khadri> scream, ls
[17:52] <scream> arvind_khadri,  ls gives me a directory and file listing, not the absolute path of where I am.
[17:52] <ODDity> user1949: perhaps it could be better but last time i tried the proprietary drivers it fsck'd up direct rendering
[17:53] <etrusco> scream, it's pwd
[17:53] <tones> scream: pwd will tell you
[17:53] <nohup_> i have two acre aspire ones, i tried upgrading my ubuntu to 9.04 the other day, which didn't work well (slow gfx and all).. .but now i just tried it again, and it seems to be fine and quick... are all the 'bugs' solved now ? (bios problems and the crapy intel video)?
[17:53] <sk8boy189> pwd = print working directory
[17:53] <deany> im tryin to use rsync to backup my mp3s to a usb stick, its formatted as ext2.  i use "rsync -rv --delete /media/mp3 /media/usbstick" which copied them all to it initially, but further use of that command and it goes really slow thru each file, as though its copying them again, or scanning, i dunno, its just as slow as copying (its a slow usb stick anyway).  I thought it would just wizz thru it with whats changed (5 files have changed)
[17:53] <nohup_> would like to be sure before i upgrade both of them
[17:53] <user1949> ODDity: also, I'm using 64bit... i think that has something to do with it
[17:54] <arvind_khadri> scream, sorry pwd
[17:54] <ODDity> user1949: It might. I dont know anything about that i'm afraid. Still on an athlon 1.6 wih 786mb of ram
[17:54] <user1949> brb
[17:55] <mrubcich> anybody have any experience distinguishing and installing the right graphics card drivers for an intel
[17:55] <mrubcich> intel gm965
[17:55] <scream> thank you
[17:55] <wildc4rd> any idea why I might be getting constant timeouts to some IRC servers, while this one is fine. (Xchat/Gnome/Jaunty)
[17:55] <myfubaredpc> morning all
[17:56] <mrubcich> morning
[17:56] <tones> wildc4rd: soddy servers??
[17:56] <ubuntu_hates_me> well i think it finally kicked my rearend
[17:57] <ubuntu_hates_me> hrm
[17:58] <tones> linux_hates_me: go play with your windows.
[17:58] <Kungen354646> im not getting any sound when i use alsa
[17:58] <user1949> woo! I got it by instlalling ATI's driver. I thought it wouldn't work but worked perfectly
[17:59] <user1949> now does anyone know how to configure dual monitor support? When I go to Displays it only shows one of my displays?
[17:59] <toneman77> hello everybody
[17:59] <toneman77> user1949, what graphics card do u use?
[17:59] <user1949> ATI Radeon 3870 HD
[17:59] <user1949> toneman77: ATI Radeon 3870 HD
[18:00] <toneman77> ii configured dual display with intel and nvidia
[18:00] <toneman77> how is the second display connected?
[18:00] <Kungen354646> im not getting any sound when i use alsa
[18:00] <toneman77> vga, dvi-i, dvi-d, dvi-a ?
[18:01] <linux_hates_me> i hate to say it but i think i might have to go back to windows
[18:01] <toneman77> linux_hates_me, why that?
[18:01] <tones> linux_hates_me: try bsd or mac!
[18:01] <linux_hates_me> toneman, cant get the gui up
[18:01] <WIGGMPk> Can anyone help me with these two problems? I can not find solutions to them online and its frustrating cause I can not remove or install anything.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/168904/
[18:02] <linux_hates_me> screen/video issues
[18:02] <arvind_khadri> !twinview | user1949
[18:02] <toneman77> gui up? does the live cd show you anything?
[18:02] <linux_hates_me> tone, nope
[18:02] <user1949> arvind_khadri: I'm using ATI
[18:02] <toneman77> what strange hardware do u use linux_hates_me ?
[18:02] <linux_hates_me> tried the nvidia drivers, didnt help
[18:02] <c0ntract0r> What would make youtube videos play but some .swf not play in Firefox?   ubuntu 9.04
[18:02] <linux_hates_me> tried kde, gnome, slim, nothing
[18:02] <mzz> WIGGMPk: I wonder how an attempt to install python-wxgtk2.8 fails
[18:03] <gartral> linux_hates_me: e16?
[18:03] <linux_hates_me> nvidia 8300 and a 53in lcd tv
[18:03] <linux_hates_me> prob is my screen res on my tv is 700x400
[18:03] <arvind_khadri> user1949, did you check the documentation, googled for it ?
[18:03] <toneman77> linux_hates_me, so on a monitor u get a gui?
[18:03] <linux_hates_me> no way to change it unless its forced in hte os
[18:04] <linux_hates_me> toneman, dont know, havent tried it
[18:04] <WIGGMPk> mzz: manually trying to install it says its already the newest verison.. I have no idea what to do
[18:04] <linux_hates_me> but i got so many errors, i doubt it
[18:04] <mzz> WIGGMPk: uninstall and reinstall it?
[18:04] <mrubcich> when a site tells me packages are available at a place like, "git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/mesa" how do i get them?
[18:04] <toneman77> what errors do u get linux_hates_me ?
[18:04] <mzz> WIGGMPk: I'm pretty new to apt myself though, bleh
[18:04] <mzz> mrubcich: why do you think you need live git source?
[18:04] <sigma_za> does anyone know if the compro k200 remote works with mythtv / lirc?
[18:04] <ODDity> c0ntract0r: make sure you've got the latest libflashplayer.so from adobe's site
[18:04] <chuck_> helper, WIGGMPk did you try reinstalling dpkg
[18:04] <linux_hates_me> um, driver failed, no screen
[18:05] <user1949> arvind_khadri: the option is greyed out in the ATI configuartion manager which is where the documentation says to change it. please spare me the patronizing.
[18:05] <mrubcich> mzz: im having real bad graphical problems trying to play WoW over wine
[18:05] <WIGGMPk> mzz: uninstalling anything yields the same as whats on lines 12-14 chuck_
[18:05] <ODDity> c0ntract0r: and it's in the right place: /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[18:05] <linux_hates_me> what is bsr?
[18:05] <c0ntract0r> ok will try thank you ODDity
[18:05] <mzz> mrubcich: that does not answer my question
[18:05] <theonesym> ls
[18:05] <linux_hates_me> i had some people last night help me from 11am to 5am and still no luck
[18:05] <mrubcich> mzz: and my mesa and intel graphics are older versions, im not sure what your asking
[18:05] <arvind_khadri> user1949, which driver are you using the one from website or from the repo ?
[18:05] <linux_hates_me> in here
[18:05] <linux_hates_me> arvind, repo
[18:06] <mzz> mrubcich: strongly recommend you try to find a prebuilt .deb with a different version of mesa instead of messing around with compiling it by hand (doing that is nontrivial, doing it in a way that can be undone more so)
[18:06] <linux_hates_me> 180
[18:06] <mrubcich> mzz: i dont know how to use git at all i was hoping someone might be able to explane it to me
[18:06] <user1949> arvind_khadri: from the ATI website
[18:06] <c0ntract0r> ODDity yes it is there
[18:06] <benni> tones: works out quite well so far :)
[18:06] <mrubcich> mzz: yeah i do NOT wanna compile it by hand
[18:06] <WIGGMPk> chuck_: tried, but I still get the errors on lines 12-14 of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/168904/
[18:06] <linux_hates_me> oh u was talking to them
[18:06] <user1949> right now both monitors are cloned, I was to have my desktop extended accross both
[18:07] <arvind_khadri> user1949, then i guess we cant help, that option might not have been built yet from them, the documentation assumes you are using the drivers from the repo
[18:07] <mzz> WIGGMPk: and attempting to reinstall libclass-accessor-perl fails too?
[18:07] <toneman77> gnome-settings-daemon changes the behaviour of Super_L here. with g-s-d: http://pastebin.ca/1418368 , without g-s-d: http://pastebin.ca/1418369
[18:07] <WIGGMPk> mzz: gives the same results..
[18:07] <user1949> arvind_khadri: drivers from the repo don't work. They make my screen flicker
[18:07] <tones> benni: good to know
[18:07] <mrubcich> mzz: how do i work with a deb site then? add it to my software source or just throw it in terminal?
[18:07] <mzz> WIGGMPk: this sounds like the database of installed packages got corrupted somehow. I don't know how to fix that...
[18:07] <linux_hates_me> you suggested osx and something else, what was the 2nd one?
[18:08] <mzz> mrubcich: find a repository, tell the package manager about it, upgrade mesa
[18:08] <ODDity> c0ntract0r: ok, well maybe you need the new one? get it from http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/  download the tar.gz and replace the existing libflashplayer.so with the new one from that zip
[18:08] <tones> linux_hates_me: bsd
[18:08] <linux_hates_me> never heard of it
[18:08] <arvind_khadri> user1949, oh, i dont know much, am sorry
[18:08] <Kungen354646> im not getting any sound when i use alsa
[18:08] <linux_hates_me> what is it
[18:08] <linux_hates_me> ?
[18:08] <WIGGMPk> mzz: yah for me... Jaunty = speed.. but thats it... at least for me.. ext4 on my machine was a disaster.
[18:08] <c0ntract0r> ODDity ok will try that now. Thank You
[18:08] <chuck_>  WIGGMPk try using aptitude to reinstall dpkg apt-get is the front end for dpkg and if its broke so is apt-get
[18:08] <mzz> mrubcich: but I wouldn't do that unless I was reasonably certain it was actually going to help
[18:08] <tones> linux_hates_me: similar to linux, yet different
[18:08] <tones> linux_hates_me: google it
[18:08] <linux_hates_me> tones, how so?
[18:08] <user1949> arvind_khadri: eh, thanks anyway
[18:08] <mrubcich> mzz: how do i go about finding a repository? i really am happy to have someone helping me with this, i think i need to upgrade
[18:08] <linux_hates_me> heh, no broswer
[18:09] <c0ntract0r> ODDity i got the one that said for UBUNTU 8.04+ last time, u think that's my problem?
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> linux_hates_me, its berkely software distribution, there version of linux
[18:09] <tones> linux_hates_me: ah...
[18:09] <jon13doe> does anyone know a good tutorial for dual booting jaunty and windows 7?
[18:09] <linux_hates_me> no gui = no browser
[18:09] <arvind_khadri> linux_hates_me, their*
[18:09] <mzz> mrubcich: *why* do you think so? Have you found others with the same problem who fixed it by upgrading? Did you find your problem mentioned in the release notes of a newer version of mesa?
[18:09] <aguadarrama> linux_hates_me, LOL
[18:09] <ODDity> c0ntract0r: I dont know.. getting the latest version from adobe wouldn't hurt, it's pretty easy to put in the right place
[18:09] <linux_hates_me> ook, guess it cant hurt
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[18:10] <jrib> con-man: stop
[18:10] <tones> linux_hates_me: why don u use lynx
[18:10] <billybigrigger_> can someone here help me with my crontab? i was reading a tutorial on setting up awstats and i entered a line into my crontab to update the webstats every 10 mins, but it hasnt' been updating
[18:10] <con-man> sorry
[18:10] <linux_hates_me> con-man, dont do that man
[18:10] <billybigrigger_> http://pastebin.com/f480e750b is my /etc/crontab
[18:10] <tones> linux_hates_me: cli browser
[18:10] <WIGGMPk> chuck_: walk me thru this one... "sudo aptitude reinstall dpkg" correct?
[18:10] <con-man> hi
[18:10] <mrubcich> mzz: on the wine appdb WoW shoudl work fine and im using 8.04 heron because jaunty doesnt support my card, and both my intel and my mesa are alittle behind the times
[18:10] <linux_hates_me> well this thing is getting formatted shortly anyways
[18:10] <ODDity> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ..
[18:10] <linux_hates_me> i was just looking for a base system for virtualbox
[18:11] <tones> linux_hates_me: mm ok
[18:11] <linux_hates_me> then running os's on top of it
[18:11] <chuck_>  WIGGMPk yes
[18:11] <linux_hates_me> but does bsr use the same software/drivers as other linux?
[18:11] <mzz> mrubcich: sorry, don't know where you'd find a backport of newer mesa for heron
[18:11] <Cryptic_Donkey> linux_hates_me: Have you looked at solaris?
[18:12] <Patrique> hi I would like to participate to a developpement project but i'm not pro yet. Where should I start?
[18:12] <epicreviews> how do I make a display primary?
[18:12] <epicreviews> in 9.04
[18:12] <mrubcich> mzz: its cool ill keep looking how about working with intel drivers a deb for those should be easy to find right?
[18:12] <tones> linux_hates_me: similar, and its bsd
[18:12] <ODDity> Patrique: find a bug and send a fix
[18:12] <linux_hates_me> tones, sorry bsd
[18:13] <mzz> mrubcich: again, may be tricky to find one that works in heron (because it has an older xserver)
[18:13] <epicreviews> how do you make one of your displays primary?
[18:13] <WIGGMPk> chuck_ still getting error's with libclass-accessor-perl
[18:13] <linux_hates_me> well cant hurt, i have tried arch, ubuntu-server, ubuntu-desktop, lmce, might as well try it
[18:13] <tones> linux_hates_me: can you sudo apt-get install linux? then browse around google
[18:13] <tones> linux_hates_me: can you sudo apt-get install linux? then browse around google
[18:13] <linux_hates_me> tones i can try
[18:13] <Vili> Hi
[18:13] <linux_hates_me> 1 sec
[18:14] <tones> linux_hates_me: i meany lynx sorry
[18:14] <epicreviews> how do I make a display primary in Ubuntu 9.04?
[18:14] <Patrique> i found a bug in ushare and i may make a fix but it is not developped anymore should i do it anyways?
[18:14] <tones> linux_hates_me: sudo apt-get install lynx
[18:14] <linux_hates_me> oops
[18:14] <ODDity> Patrique: or go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs  and have a look what needs doing
[18:14] <linux_hates_me> i did linux
[18:14] <tones> linux_hates_me: ah...
[18:14] <Patrique> ok thx:)
[18:14] <c0ntract0r> ODDity, still same situation, just goes white where the video should be.
[18:15] <ODDity> c0ntract0r: hum... PM?
[18:15] <epicreviews> come on you guys how do I make a display primary? I'm using two monitors and I want one of them to be my primary with the taskbars on it
[18:15] <JohnnyBGoode> hello can someone please help me with gaining permission to paste a .so into a folder?
[18:15] <linux_hates_me> unplug monitor, plug it into the primary port :)
[18:15] <epicreviews> It's a laptop
[18:16] <epicreviews> I like using an external display also
[18:16] <chuck__> c0ntract0r, did you ever get sound to work
[18:16] <martin_henry> epicreviews: you want laptop primary & external secondary?
[18:16] <epicreviews> YES I do
[18:16] <linux_hates_me> epic, if this was windows, its easy, sorry dont know in ubuntu but i would figure its something to do with display settings
[18:16] <epicreviews> @ martin_henry
[18:16] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ yes i did , i tried to thank you last night but you were gone so, thanks :)
[18:16] <linux_hates_me> chuck, he is wanting opposite
[18:16] <epicreviews> I know how to do it in windows as well but not in ubuntu
[18:16] <linux_hates_me> oh i thought u wanted desktop primary
[18:17] <linux_hates_me> heh
[18:17] <linux_hates_me> sorry
[18:17] <chuck__> c0ntract0r, glad too here it
[18:17] <linux_hates_me> take mirror off and extend desktop
[18:17] <toneman77> well on my dell i just plugged in a monitor and opened the display settings
[18:17] <epicreviews> the desktop is extended
[18:17] <JohnnyBGoode> Does anyone know why I only have "read only" access to a folder? I need "Read and Write"
[18:17] <Bodsda> !info dontzap
[18:17] <epicreviews> but the external monitor is primary
[18:17] <martin_henry> epicreviews: so what is the problem?
[18:17] <toneman77> JohnnyBGoode, depend on the folder. which one is it?
[18:17] <firevai> i had my landlord put my comp in his routers dmz.. now i am still having problems with ports.... can it be something in ubuntu not letting me connect to certain ports?
[18:17] <c0ntract0r> yes me too, i eventually removed the pci card , reenabled the onboard sound (intel82xx) and it just started working like a charm.....(after i recomplied alsa and everything else i could do)
[18:17] <epicreviews> I want my laptop monitor to be primary martin_henry
[18:18] <linux_hates_me> k lynx is installed
[18:18] <toneman77> epicreviews, does the second monitor appear in the display settings?
[18:18] <epicreviews> yes
[18:18] <JohnnyBGoode> toneman77, its the purple-2 folder in my Pidgin folder. I am trying to add a plugin that was not included
[18:18] <Vili> Hi Evrey!
[18:18] <tones> linux_hates_me: run lynx and hey presto
[18:18] <epicreviews> yes @ toneman77
[18:18] <toneman77> JohnnyBGoode, full path
[18:18] <linux_hates_me> whats the exact command tones
[18:18] <toneman77> epicreviews, but it doesnt turn on ?
[18:18] <linux_hates_me> dont htink run lynx and hey presto is going to work heh
[18:19] <bdizzle> hi
[18:19] <tones> linux_hates_me: just "lynx", it has a full cli
[18:19] <JohnnyBGoode> toneman77 /usr/lib/purple-2
[18:19] <linux_hates_me> ok thanks
[18:19] <martin_henry> epicreviews can you identify monitors in display settings?
[18:19] <epicreviews> both monitors are on. I want my laptop monitor to be primary, and my external to be secondary with desktop extension
[18:19] <bdizzle> or use kile
[18:19] <epicreviews> I can identify both monitors
[18:19] <bdizzle> I was wondering if someone could help me with auto-mounting partitions upon startup, and helping me locate a partition that is detected, but unable to be used
[18:19] <toneman77> JohnnyBGoode, then copy the file with sudo cp /path/where/your/file.so /usr/lib/...
[18:20] <linux_hates_me> err what was that again, bsr?
[18:20] <martin_henry> epicreviews: what driver re u using for display adapter?
[18:20] <tones> linux_hates_me: bsd :)
[18:20] <martin_henry> *are
[18:20] <toneman77> epicreviews, is there anything visible on your second monitor?
[18:20] <Vili> ^_^
[18:20] <epicreviews> I'm not sure what driver martin henry
[18:20] <packetcase> does kde3 look less like vista than kde4?
[18:20] <JohnnyBGoode> toneman77 so the file is on the desktop, what would i write?
[18:20] <Vili> ¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_¯_
[18:20] <linux_hates_me> many flavors here
[18:20] <epicreviews> I have my desktop extended right now, but my external monitor is primary, I want my laptop monitor to be primary
[18:20] <ODDity> we all has a flavour
[18:21] <tones> linux_hates_me: yup, freebsd is most popular
[18:21] <toneman77> JohnnyBGoode, sudo cp /home/JohnnyBGoode/Desktop/filename.so /usr/lib/...
[18:21] <linux_hates_me> netbsd, openbsd, freebsd  ?
[18:21] <steph-> hi
[18:21] <linux_hates_me> ok
[18:21] <toneman77> JohnnyBGoode, if that is your username on the machine
[18:21] <JohnnyBGoode> toneman77 thank you sir
[18:21] <epicreviews> so does anyone have any idea how to fix?
[18:22] <fabio___> guys
[18:22] <toneman77> epicreviews, there should be a button that makes a display the primary
[18:22] <epicreviews> and my compiz effects are off now for some reason
[18:22] <fabio___> I wanted to know if theres a way to use KDE but use the GNOME default apps?
[18:22] <linux_hates_me> unable to access document
[18:22] <epicreviews> find the button for me toneman77
[18:22] <c0ntract0r> ODDity should i have a /usr/lib/flashpluginstaller folder with that .so lib in it?
[18:22] <fabio___> I installed kubuntu over ubuntu and kept gnome
[18:22] <linux_hates_me> when i go to the freebsd
[18:22] <toneman77> epicreviews, show me a screenshot
[18:22] <fabio___> and generally i prefer the gnome apps.
[18:22] <fabio___> also my wifi works when i log in with gnome, but not with kde
[18:23] <toneman77> epicreviews, problem here is, that i have a nvidia card and dont have these display settings
[18:23] <linux_hates_me> tone, this takes me back to by bbs days, lol
[18:23] <linux_hates_me> oh the colors
[18:23] <tones> fabio___: easy solution, use gnome
[18:23] <JohnnyBGoode> toneman77 worked perfectly, thank you again
[18:23] <tones> linux_hates_me: lol
[18:23] <fabio___> llol
[18:23] <ODDity> c0ntract0r: um... if you want.. he flahsplayerinstaller is just a script that find out where libflashplayer.so need to go if you dont fancy doing it yourself as far as i know.. so..
[18:23] <epicreviews> ok I think I figured it out but it's stupid
[18:23] <linux_hates_me> well ill go to my computer upstairs and get it
[18:24] <linux_hates_me> thanks guys
[18:24] <fabio___> tones i dont know, sometimes i like taking KDE for a ride, for variety.
[18:24] <toneman77> epicreviews, http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DPRpWaKQ8NQ/SBQFljNq1lI/AAAAAAAAAGE/DCLWuNRJduI/s400/arange_displays.png
[18:24] <epicreviews> the primary monitor has to be on the left?
[18:24] <fabio___> im a theme junkey as well on gnome so i get bored easily.
[18:24] <epicreviews> I don't have NVIDIA
[18:24] <tones> im experimenting with running both on two ttys
[18:24] <toneman77> epicreviews, text is "Make this the primary display for the X screen"
[18:24] <c0ntract0r> ok, I was just trying to clean up the trash...     is swfdec a good thing or does it possibly conflict with the adobe flash player?
[18:24] <tones> fabio___: im experimenting with running both on two ttys, its possible
[18:24] <epicreviews> I have ATI
[18:24] <epicreviews> I have ATI
[18:24] <toneman77> epicreviews, it doesnt matter where it is (even on top works) only the check matters
[18:24] <DarsVaeda> hi, try to setup my apitek hyper vcam in ubuntu 9.04, work so far that i get it to work using sudo camorama, but the picture is tripled and only b/w
[18:25] <fabio___> what are ttys?
[18:25] <DarsVaeda> how can i setup that properly?
[18:25] <fabio___> tones: what are ttys?
[18:25] <epicreviews> I don't have NVIDA!!
[18:25] <epicreviews> i have ATI
[18:25] <toneman77> argh, sorry, wrong screenshto
[18:25] <tones> fabio___: ah. a newbie :) press ctrl+alt+f1, then ctrl+alt+f7
[18:26] <epicreviews> I'm using the display preferences
[18:26] <epicreviews> built into ubuntu
[18:26] <toneman77> epicreviews, please post a screenshot
[18:26] <bdizzle> hi, is anyone able to help me get into a missing partition
[18:26] <fabio___> yes, a newbie haha :D
[18:27] <fornix> bdizzle: missing means?
[18:27] <epicreviews> crap I can't post screenshot
[18:27] <chris__> how do you install songbird in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:27] <bdizzle> I've got the disk space widgit up (using KDE, sorry), and it claims that the partition exists, but I have no way of accessing it
[18:27] <bdizzle> and I don't know how to go about mounting it or having it auto-mount
[18:28] <tones> fabio___: i think you should just choose one, running both will be complex :)
[18:28] <epicreviews> I can't post a screenshot
[18:28] <epicreviews> I have a box in my way blocking the applications part of the taskbar
[18:28] <toneman77> a box?
[18:28] <epicreviews> a box telling me what display it is
[18:28] <toneman77> move it with alt-leftmousekey
[18:29] <epicreviews> won't move
[18:29] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason behind this???
[18:29] <tones> toneman77: nice trick, thanks
[18:29] <fornix> bdizzle: do you mean to say that your partition does not mount?
[18:29] <bdizzle> yes
[18:30] <bdizzle> I think I have to edit fstab, but I'm not sure how
[18:30] <epicreviews> ok I turned off other monitor, so now my laptop is primary and no other monitor
[18:30] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason behind this???
[18:30] <FFForever> how can i remove the kde/gnome crud from each other (menu items)
[18:31] <c0ntract0r> interesting tidbit, I just uninstalled swfdeck-mozilla and all my swfs now play correctly in ff
[18:31] <epicreviews> screw it it isn't worth it
[18:31] <silare> :o It works. What kind of support is this? Just any questions about the OS itself/
[18:32] <epicreviews> just to let you people know, this is why lots of people don't switch to linux
[18:32] <silare> *distro
[18:32] <dan2k> hi i have a problem shrinking my windows partition
[18:32] <tones> epicreviews: why?
[18:32] <cfedde> epicreviews: can be frustrating.
[18:32] <dan2k> it won't let me make it smaller, although it's 50% free
[18:32] <drbrtt> Hello?
[18:32] <tones> dan2k: using gparted?
[18:33] <Majix560> hi all
[18:33] <dan2k> tones yup, in the jaunty live cd
[18:33] <epicreviews> @ tones - small little things that only take a button press or two in windows take 15 minutes to figure out in linux
[18:33] <repnop> epicreviews: they only take two because you know where to go in windows.
[18:33] <tones> dan2k: reboot into windows and run a chkdsk twice, then shutdown properly
[18:33] <epicreviews> and now I have a freakin box in my way
[18:33] <civpro> hey im back tones
[18:33] <dan2k> epicreviews don't blame the OS blame your miniscule computer illiirate brain
[18:33] <repnop> funny enough, to change the volume on your mic in windows 7 requires 4 dlg boxes!
[18:33] <civpro> its linux_hates_me
[18:34] <cfedde> epicreviews: I'm sure that linux is not going to work for everyone.  But if you want a system that "just works" then buy one that has linux installed.
[18:34] <civpro> on my computer upstairs
[18:34] <dan2k> haha *illiterate
[18:34] <repnop> so it isn't just linux :)
[18:34] <tones> civpro: oh hey
[18:34] <repnop> all systems have their quirks
[18:34] <tones> civpro: ok
[18:34] <dan2k> tones - okay thanks!
[18:34] <epicreviews> @ dan2k - Windows is just more simplistic. I like Ubuntu a lot better, but Windows is simple. I dual boot vista and Ubuntu
[18:34] <drbrtt> Does anyone know kno wthe name of the song that goes dana dana da DA and they sing  "another day" and it has a kick ass gutair solo in it?
[18:34] <tones> epicreviews: dont say the v word here
[18:34] <civpro> im going to try mandriva, maybe i will have better luck giving that the driver from the website is more designed for that flavor
[18:34] <fabio___> ok tones
[18:35] <tones> civpro: ok
[18:35] <repnop> epicreviews: you use vista as a good example? :)
[18:35] <civpro> or redhat
[18:35] <johnny> Brasileiros??
[18:35] <repnop> they moved everything around in vista hehe
[18:35] <civpro> not sure yet
[18:35] <fabio___> tones: i did what you did and i lost the GUI.  I had to issue the reboot command
[18:35] <johnny> ahauhuhu
[18:35] <civpro> is redhat bloated?
[18:35] <epicreviews> I like "v" it's pretty cool, but I can tell they stole some stuff from linux
[18:35] <gagaga123> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKX5mStkmrU    -->  Watch!!!
[18:35] <tones> fabio___: you didnt lose it, it was on another tty. if you pressed ctrl+alt+f7 as i said, it wouldhave comeback
[18:36] <gagaga123> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKX5mStkmrU
[18:36] <epicreviews> so how can I remove this stupid box that's in my way?
[18:36] <drbrtt> help please Does anyone know  the name of the song that goes dana dana da DA and they sing  "another day" and it has a kick ass gutair solo in it? I just heard it on the radio
[18:36] <fabio___> ok
[18:36] <user__> drbrtt: wrong channel
[18:36] <fabio___> could you define tty for me? i thought GNOMand KDE were called desktop environments
[18:36] <drbrtt> huh
[18:36] <epicreviews> I'll put a screenshot up so you know what I mean
[18:37] <gagaga123> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKX5mStkmrU
[18:37] <grkblood13> can some1 help me set up a raid 5 with 9.04
[18:37] <gagaga123> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKX5mStkmrU
[18:37] <gagaga123> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKX5mStkmrU
[18:37] <gagaga123> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKX5mStkmrU
[18:37] <tones> fabio___: by default on most unixes there are 7 ttys (virtual terminals), like 7 mini computers.
[18:37] <silare> Anyone here know of any good presentation programs (EX: PowerPoint, OpenOffice.org Impress) that exist and are GTK apps?
[18:37] <tm> does anyone know if it is possible to disable xorg-logging to Xorg.0.log?
[18:37] <tones> fabio___: 6 consoles, and one X server
[18:37] <silare> Because OO.org Impress isn't impressing me. =/
[18:37] <silare> And Criawips is too primitive.
[18:37] <chaos2fu> hii can someone help me with the desktop in ubuntu netbook remix?
[18:37] <epicreviews> @ silare - have you tried google docs?
[18:37] <fabio___> X server is related to graphics?
[18:37] <silare> For Presentation software? o_o
[18:38] <tm> it is
[18:38] <epicreviews> yes!
[18:38] <tm> but #xorg wont answer me...
[18:38] <silare> Webapps aren't my thing, but I s'pose I'll try it.
[18:38] <tones> fabio___: yes, its the underlying structure for graphics, GNOME and KDE etc. but i cant go into detail, i have homework to do :)
[18:38] <fabio___> haha its ok
[18:38] <fabio___> thanks anyway
[18:38] <epicreviews> ok everyone look at the small light blue box in the top left of my screen, how do I remove it? http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb99/Cyndaquil-Thrill/Screenshot-1.png
[18:38] <tones> fabio___: no problem
[18:39] <lampliter> how can I fix it so that "send a link" in Firefox brings up Thunderbird instead of evolution?
[18:39] <c0ntract0r> epicreviews somewhere in display pref should be an "identify monitor" checkbox?
[18:39] <silare> I just wished something like Criawips existed but was actually competent. OO.org is powerful but it gets bulky and fat.
[18:39] <civpro> is it possible to install osx on a non-mac system?
[18:39] <tones> lampliter: in gnome, you can go to system>preferred apps and use common sense
[18:39] <civpro> never tried myself
[18:39] <repnop> civpro: yes and no
[18:39] <civpro> repnop, care to explain?
[18:39] <tones> civpro: if it has an SSE2 capable processor, yes
[18:39] <repnop> there are ways but they aren't legal.
[18:39] <epicreviews> @ c0ntract0r - nope
[18:40] <repnop> depends on your hardware mostly
[18:40] <civpro> well im more worried about hardware compatibility issues
[18:40] <repnop> there are hacks for amd64 etc also though
[18:40] <silare> It's illegal, but it's all about your hardware.
[18:40] <silare> Intel will have it easier than AMD.
[18:40] <civpro> ya i got a amd cpu
[18:40] <silare> And of course, it's also about finding the right 'distribution' of it (iATKOS, Kalyway, etc.)
[18:40] <hhp2k1> Hey everyone! =) Happy sunday / Monday.  I have a question regarding Dual Monitor Setups in Ubuntu 9.04 - I'm using an older PC, with an NVIDIA Geforce3 64MB AGP - and a second monitor plugged into the PC's on-board video, which is an intel chipset.  How do I get started on making the second screen work?
[18:40] <repnop> yep core 2 is great for it i guess
[18:40] <epicreviews> help me I still can't get rid of this box!!! http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb99/Cyndaquil-Thrill/Screenshot-1.png
[18:41] <lampliter> tones:  ah, that was a new one on me.  spent so much time looking at the old menus that I didn't even notice the change
[18:41] <repnop> civpro: what chipset?
[18:41] <tones> lampliter: glad i could help :)
[18:41] <civpro> am2
[18:41] <civpro> let me get the specs
[18:41] <civpro> might help
[18:41] <repnop> nah i haven't tested so no clue
[18:41] <repnop> i'm running w7 not osx :p
[18:42] <silare> @EPICREVIEWS: Try restarting computer? >_>
[18:42] <civpro> rep, you like it?
[18:42] <epicreviews> ok I'll try....
[18:42] <chuck__> epicreviews, you see them 2 windows on the bottom panel close them (display pref)
[18:42] <repnop> civpro: yeah very nice
[18:42] <civpro> i heard good things about it
[18:42] <civpro> unlike vista
[18:42] <repnop> vista wasn't bad
[18:42] <silare> Windows 7 is quite an improvement over Vista. But they have no Guest Mode. D: And they need some better software.
[18:42] <silare> Vista was average. But for something that took them so many years to release it's a disappointment more or less.
[18:42] <repnop> silare: i use virtual machines as guest mode ;)
[18:43] <silare> xD Yeah. I usually do too.
[18:43] <iLogic> hi, i'm using ubuntu on a 2008 white macbook, which has a gma950 videocard.. is there any way for making compiz work?
[18:43] <lampliter> I'm very much impressed by Windows 7.
[18:43] <repnop> the kernel in vista is nice
[18:43] <repnop> w7 improves the gdi at least
[18:43] <repnop> no global locks
[18:43] <Etanol> My computer is fucked
[18:43] <silare> "Here. It's Windows XP. Now just don't press Ctrl+Alt and all will be good."
[18:43] <lampliter> The only reason I'm using it though is because of accessibility issues.  (Speech recognition)
[18:43] <civpro> well im not ready to go down that road i could on a virtualbox but not on a core os
[18:43] <repnop> w7 xp mode is ok
[18:43] <silare> Hmm...
[18:43] <mirak> hi
[18:43] <lampliter> are you, or do you know anyone that would be willing to spend some time helping disabled people with a specific program need?
[18:43] <repnop> dl a 600MB file and you have an xp vm with little setup
[18:43] <silare> Why not dualboot/triboot/somethingboot it? >.>;
[18:44] <nmvictor> Etanol:too bad,hope you are not
[18:44] <Etanol> I reinstalled windows on the base partition, and that fucked up the autostart (no longer grub, using the windows boot), and now I am on ubuntu live CD
[18:44] <silare> I triboot Win7, Jaunty/Gloria (when Gloria comes out), and Leopard.
[18:44] <mirak> does anyone know how I can install grub on a isolated /booting parititon ?
[18:44] <fabio___> WIndows 7 seemed pretty cool
[18:44] <Etanol> grub command doesn't work
[18:44] <fabio___> ive tried the beta
[18:44] <repnop> Etanol: you can access your grub partition
[18:44] <repnop> i dont know about ubuntu
[18:44] <Etanol> and then I try grub-install:
[18:44] <fabio___> but im not switching back
[18:44] <Etanol> The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[18:44] <civpro> repnop, found it, asus m3n78 pro mb, socket am2+
[18:44] <repnop> but most grub boot loaders you can hit c
[18:44] <fabio___> several people have told me games run better for them under w7 than xp
[18:44] <repnop> then root (hd0,n)
[18:44] <repnop> where n is the partition
[18:44] <civpro> athlon 64 x2 6000+
[18:44] <repnop> configfile /grub/menu.1st
[18:45] <repnop> and now you see your current one
[18:45] <silare> And if you're on a liveCD, you can re-setup GRUB.
[18:45] <repnop> i'm too lazy to update the mbr so i just do that if i have to get into linux again before i wipe it
[18:45] <vixus> System's refusing to mount windows share (when it used to a few weeks ago) -- why's this?
[18:45] <Etanol> the problem is that it won't do anything whatever I type
[18:45] <Etanol> error error error
[18:45] <silare> @FABIO: Yes and no. If you play any Gameguard games (Ragnarok, Maple Story, Grand Chase, etc.) you're screwed. =[
[18:45] <silare> Everything else I've tried is okay.
[18:45] <vixus> Used to mount through fstab entry (CIFS)
[18:45] <vixus> not working anymore though
[18:45] <repnop> steam runs great in w7 thats all i care for with gaming :)
[18:45] <silare> xD That works.
[18:46] <Etanol> grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[18:46] <Etanol> The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[18:46] <civpro> repnop. did u see that?
[18:46] <vixus> and I've pinged the computer
[18:46] <Erchin> anyone know how to set XChat up so that it'll make a sound when someone says my nick? i think i know how (set a sound to play on an event), but i don't know what event to use for it.
[18:46] <repnop> civpro: i told you i wouldn't know if it works well or not.
[18:46] <civpro> ah ok
[18:46] <civpro> sorry didnt see that
[18:46] <repnop> it's ok
[18:46] <repnop> i got it working in qemu-kvm
[18:46] <repnop> but mouse input was slow...
[18:46] <repnop> so never bothered to actually test it out
[18:47] <civpro> just looking for alternatives to windows that might work
[18:47] <silare> @CIVPRO: Go look on the InsanelyMac forums. Search around on them - there's bound to be some guide for your model of PC.
[18:47] <repnop> osx86 wiki will tell you a lot
[18:47] <silare> @CIVPRO: The information should be comprehensible enough to get you on your feet hopefully. And Repnop's right too. OSX86 Wiki is win. =]
[18:47] <civpro> silare, i highly doubt that, considering i built it but maybe support for my mb
[18:47] <repnop> but  i hate the osx UI anyways
[18:47] <silare> @CIVPRO: Ouch. >_o
[18:47] <Etanol> can anybody help me with grub? I don't wanna reinstall my linux partition :/
[18:47] <repnop> shift+up selects the file above first selected rather than unselecting the last selected file? i mean common
[18:47] <silare> @ETANOL: What have you tried so far?
[18:48] <tones> Etanol: whats the problem?
[18:48] <silare> GRUB crapped out on him.
[18:48] <civpro> im going to give mandriva a try, if not then redhat, if not then bsd, if not, well then i guess ill go with osx
[18:48] <civpro> heh
[18:48] <sacarlson> ﻿ Etanol: what in that file that won't read
[18:48] <repnop> anyone else use ntfs-3g much in ubuntu 9.04?
[18:48] <Etanol> the problem is that the MBR points to windows, and windows boot loader dont have linux
[18:48] <repnop> i'm noticing it's only writing at 1MB/s when reading from a sparse file
[18:48] <Etanol> and grub/grub-install don't work for me
[18:48] <repnop> sometimes 300KB/s ...
[18:48] <tones> Etanol: download super grub cd
[18:49] <och3nk> !ping
[18:49] <civpro> if redhat or mandriva doesnt work i have exhausted all alternative linux systems
[18:49] <Etanol> tones: is that a temporary solution?
[18:49] <tones> Etanol: yes, once you are in, reinstal grub
[18:49] <ifoo> is there a way to use the numpad keys to get special characters? in windows one can type shift+alt+65 to get a 'A' ..
[18:49] <silare> @ETANOL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 Try this too if you wnt.
[18:50] <silare> @ETANOL: You're in LiveCD mode right now, so that might not be a bad idea.
[18:50] <vixus> Mount is telling me the device doesn
[18:50] <vixus> Trying to mount windows share -- Mount is telling me the device doesn't exist.
[18:50] <billybigrigger_> ifoo::: system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts would be a good start i think
[18:50] <hhp2k1> Hey everyone, I'm using ubuntu 9.04, and Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't seem to restart the X Server - what's up with that?
[18:50] <billybigrigger_> !dontzap
[18:50] <silare> @HHP2K1: They took out that feature. D:
[18:50] <hhp2k1> silare: How odd.
[18:50] <ifoo> thx billybigrigger_, i will give it a try
[18:50] <vixus> silare, then how do you restart the x server?
[18:50] <billybigrigger_> !dontzap | hhp2k1
[18:50] <silare> @HHP2K1: Ubottu just said.
[18:51] <unop> ifoo,   hold CTRL+SHIFT down,  press U  then press the hexadecimal code of the character you want, then release CTRL+SHIFT
[18:51] <chaos2fu> can someone crack this; my panels in ubuntu netbook remix are gone, how do i get them back?;-)
[18:51] <billybigrigger_> chaos2fu::: sudo killall gnome-panel
[18:51] <billybigrigger_> cha0s::: that will restart gnome-panel
[18:51] <Etanol> silare: tried before, tried again: "Error 12: Invalid device requested"
[18:52] <ifoo> thx unop, works perfectly !
[18:52] <xtmnx> xvidcap question. I don't see any audio setting under multiframe tab (which there should be, I think). Anyone got idea?
[18:52] <silare> @ETANOL: D: Then I suppose you'll have to work with the Super GRUB CD the d00d above said. =[
[18:52] <silare> @ETANOL: He probably knows what he's doing though, so it should work.
[18:52] <Etanol> omg
[18:52] <tones> silare: worked for me :)
[18:52] <Etanol> can't burn supergrub while having livecd in
[18:53] <daworm84> hi there
[18:53] <tones> Etanol: ah..
[18:53] <pokoloko> Question: Is there any way that I can make Ubuntu auto mount my ntfs drives ?
[18:53] <silare> @TONES: Sweet. Hopefully it works for him too.
[18:53] <silare> @ETANOL: Oh. >_O
[18:53] <unop> !fstab > pokoloko
[18:53] <silare> @ETANOL: Wait. Can you boot into Windows?
[18:53] <Etanol> silare: yes
[18:53] <coz_> pokoloko,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785263
[18:53] <Etanol> kind of forced to
[18:53] <tones> Etanol: do it there
[18:53] <silare> @ETANOL: Boot into that, and then burn CD there. >_>
[18:53] <pokoloko> thank you
[18:53] <daworm84> pokoloko: at the installation you can choose your ntfs devices mount on any point
[18:53] <Etanol> no burning program on win
[18:53] <ifoo> unop: this only works with hex vaules containing only digtis. as soon as there are letters in it it doesnt work anymore
[18:54] <Etanol> "fresh" install
[18:54] <coz_> pokoloko,   http://d0od.blogspot.com/2009/04/automount-windows-paritions.html
[18:54] <silare> @ETANOL: What kind of Win?
[18:54] <Etanol> if you can call windows "fresh"
[18:54] <Etanol> xp64pro
[18:54] <tones> Etanol: download the free program isoburn
[18:54] <silare> @ETANOL: Ohhh. Yeah. What Tones said.
[18:54] <Etanol> ok, i'll try that
[18:54] <Etanol> thanks for the help guys
[18:54] <silare> @ETANOL: You're welcome. =]
[18:54] <tones> Etanol: no problem :)
[18:54] <unop> ifoo, ctrl+shift, u, 6, b  # gives me 'k' - as expected
[18:55] <tones> benny
[18:55] <Jisatsusha> anyone knows how to fix a slow boot? Downloaded bootchart and it looks like it takes a brake after 15 secs then continues after 185...
[18:55] <ifoo> unop: your right, it just didnt work in the terminal when i was connected to a remote machine through ssh ..
[18:56] <daworm84> I've two soundcard devices one onboard and one soundblaster 24-Bit external. In preferences -> audio I choose everything auto-search. Gnome only use the onboard soundcard. How can I switch default soundcard in gnome?
[18:56] <pokoloko> Thank you all for the information :)
[18:56] <ifoo> unop: strange, it works for some hex values but not for 7C which is an |  ..
[18:57] <c0ntract0r> dawork84 have you disabled the onboard soundcard in bios?
[18:57] <unop> ifoo, hmm, odd, that works for me
[18:57] <billybigrigger_> daworm84::: do you use both soundcards?
[18:57] <tones> anybody_i_helped: im off for dinner, bye
[18:57] <daworm84> no, I want to switch dynamically
[18:57] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 have you disabled the onboard soundcard in bios? (sorry bout the name)
[18:57] <billybigrigger_> daworm84::: why dont you disable onboard in bios?
[18:57] <silare> Does anyone know of good alternatives to OpenOffice.org and KPresenter on Linux? =/ I hate Criawips but OO is too bloated for meh.
[18:57] <daworm84> billybigrigger_: yes I do
[18:57] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 so you want to use both
[18:57] <billybigrigger_> ahh
[18:58] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 does aplay -l   show both cards?
[18:58] <ifoo> unop: maybe theres a problem with locales or keymaps
[18:58] <ifoo> thx anyway
[18:58] <unop> ifoo, works locally and over ssh too .. could be down to locales yep
[18:58] <ifoo> unop: 7c doesnt work in a local terminal either ...
[18:58] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: yes both card are visible
[18:59] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 but you DO NOT WANT to switch the onboard off in bios, correct?
[18:59] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: yes, thats right
[19:00] <carl_> Hey, I'm running ubuntu form a usb stick and I can't get the sound to work, any suggestions?
[19:00] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 if you run aplay and try to play a test file from the pci card does it work>?
[19:00] <Jisatsusha> anyone knows how to troubleshoot a slow boot?
[19:00] <vixus> I'm curious -- does anyone else have a Sempron 3400+ processor?
[19:00] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: it have to be possible to use a specific soundcard, mom, I try it
[19:00] <kora-chan> hi im using jaunty, what i want to do is input japanesse hiragana symbols in text fields. i installed scim with anthy japanese symbols. the scim gui has the japanese installed, but i have no clue how i can activate it. anybody knows about it?
[19:00] <vixus> It's meant to run at 2GHz but cpuinfo says it's running at 80MHz
[19:00] <vixus> *800
[19:01] <carl_> nop, no success with aplay :(
[19:01] <chuck__> daworm84, it is impossible to have sound disabled in bios and still have your os find it unless your bios is defective
[19:01] <vixus> Also since it has 64-bit instructions enabled, would I be able to use a 64-bit distro?
[19:01] <kuldeep> how to change boot loader since I have install 8.1 ubuntu and it does not showing me option to boot from Windows..........?:(
[19:01] <c0ntract0r> chuck_ i think he has them BOTH enabled, but wants to be able to pick the pci card in alsa, but its all playing thru his onboard atm
[19:01] <Shady> hi
[19:02] <nmvictor> shady:hi
[19:02] <daworm84> chuck__: my onboard card isn't disbaled in bios
[19:02] <Shady> how can i reboot my keyboard when he doesn't work ?
[19:02] <wlodi> hi lads, I have a problem at boot, I get the message: usb 5-1: device descriptor read/64, error-71 and then the boot freezes. Any ideas?
[19:02] <chuck__> daworm84, oops sorry
[19:02] <Vili> HI
[19:02] <Vili> ME/Comin chat
[19:02] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: sorry, Iḿ looking for a file :)
[19:03]  * Vili coming these irc chanel
[19:03] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 nbd,     if aplay will play thru it, then it's just a matter of gui settings me thinks
[19:04] <dtchen> daworm84: if you're using 9.04, install pavucontrol and migrate the stream to the desired card
[19:04] <dtchen> carl_: what hardware is the "usb stick" booted from?
[19:04] <walrus_> Hey, how can you enable AMD Cool'n'Quiet on ubuntu 9.04? I can hardly find any info on google :/
[19:05] <daworm84> dtchen: I've read about this tool, but in the article some programms cannot use this
[19:05] <carl_> dtchen: I'm very much a noob at this, I jsut put the usb stick in the computer and had the BIOS boot from that..
[19:06] <dtchen> carl_: what computer?
[19:06] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: aplay plays the file correctly, but on the onboard (wrong) soundcard
[19:06] <dtchen> daworm84: just install pavucontrol
[19:06] <fornix> walrus_: what does that cool n quiet actually do. My processor supports it too
[19:06] <DStrevinas_> Hello i have Ubuntu on laptop and i would like to know if I need to do any configuration in order to connect a projector and give a presentation
[19:06] <carl_> HP something, not sure bout the specs, it's not mine, I'm @ school booting from there
[19:07] <walrus_> fornix: it can change the cpu frequency depending on the cpu is idel or active
[19:07] <maynards-girl> how do I play an mp3 in the new 9.04 ubuntu?
[19:07] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 did you/do you know how. to pick the 2nd device?
[19:07] <dtchen> maynards-girl: open it in rhythmbox or totem and follow the directions
[19:07] <silare> Baiii~
[19:07] <chaos2fu> are there someone here that are currently running ubuntu netbook remix and can help me to get the panels and the menus back in place?
[19:07] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: no I doesnt, this is my question :)
[19:07] <maynards-girl> dtchen, thanks!
[19:08] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 i will check for you 1sec
[19:08] <StormWinged> hello guys
[19:08] <chaorain> In 9.04 my taskbars?(the bars at the top and bottom) show over MythTV. Help?
[19:08] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason behind ?
[19:08] <dtchen> daworm84: use Applications> Add/Remove...  to install pavucontrol
[19:08] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason behind
[19:08] <daworm84> dtchen: I installed the tool already, but it doesnt work
[19:08] <dtchen> daworm84: what do you mean it "doesnt work"?
[19:08] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason
[19:08] <fornix> walrus_: look what i found http://h2np.net/cpudcc/
[19:08] <StormWinged> since i rebooted in terminal my ovh server... the nx server dont start... i cant connect with nx client to it any help?
[19:09] <c0ntract0r> dawork84 try this aplay  -D, --device=NAME
[19:09] <c0ntract0r>               Select PCM by name
[19:09] <c0ntract0r> use aplay -l to get the name
[19:09] <dtchen> carl_: Applications> Accessories> Terminal ... in it, type: wget -O ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[19:09] <daworm84> dtchen: when I select pulseaudio soundserver no music can play
[19:09] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: yes, mom.
[19:10] <walrus_> fornix:  thanks, look interesting, hope i wont need to recompile the kernel or something
[19:10] <dtchen> daworm84: where are you selecting "pulseaudio soundserver"?
[19:10] <daworm84> dtchen: preferences -> audio
[19:11] <dtchen> daworm84: they should all be set to Autodetect
[19:11] <kao_> "Which cards does ATI no longer support? The ATI Radeon 9500-9800,X300-X2100,Xpress." What kinda crap is this? >_>
[19:11] <dtchen> daworm84: except for Audio Conferencing -> Sound Capture, which should be set to ALSA
[19:12] <carl_> dtchen: it's done, the script says "please inform the person helping you" :P
[19:12] <dtchen> carl_: does it give you a url?
[19:13] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: aplay -l do not have an useable devicename
[19:13] <carl_> no, it just says that "the information is located at" and then there's a huge whitespace
[19:13] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 asoundconf list
[19:14] <dtchen> carl_: ok, please rerun the script: bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh --no-upload
[19:14] <dtchen> carl_: then pastebin the generated /tmp/alsa-info.txt, and tell me the url, please
[19:14] <lakotajames> is there a way for me to check what programs are using my internet connection, and how much?  I think I have something using all my bandwidth or something, last.fm is buffering way more than it should be.
[19:14] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: http://rafb.net/p/OqGnlQ49.html
[19:15] <th0r> lakotajames: are you running a wifi hub?
[19:15] <c0ntract0r> daworm84 is your soundblaster live   a usb device?
[19:15] <carl_> /tmp/alsa-info.txt
[19:15] <carl_> that the one?
[19:15] <dtchen> c0ntract0r: yes, it is.
[19:15] <lakotajames> th0r: if a wifi hub and a wireless router are the same thing, then yes.
[19:15] <dtchen> carl_: yes
[19:15] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: yes it do
[19:15] <c0ntract0r> hrmm....   daworm84  what does   asoundconf list   show in a terminal?
[19:15] <chaos2fu> how do i create a new user in command?
[19:15] <th0r> lakotajames: then the more likely scenario is that someone else is logged into your wireless router
[19:15] <StormWinged> can someone help with my nx server?
[19:15] <dtchen> c0ntract0r: / daworm84: just use: speaker-test -c2 -l2 -Dplughw:1
[19:16] <sacarlson> ﻿lakotajames: not every thing you want but sudo netstat -pant
[19:16] <mrwes> chaos2fu, sudo adduser
[19:16] <c0ntract0r> ooh thanks dtchen :D
[19:16] <nmvictor> chaus2fu: sudo adduser <newusersname>
[19:16] <daworm84> c0ntract0r: http://rafb.net/p/pzOUKT96.html
[19:16] <nmvictor> chaos2fu: sudo adduser <newusersname>
[19:16] <Majix560> I need help configuring XChat
[19:16] <mrwes> three bots today? hrmm
[19:17] <lakotajames> th0r: I live in the middle of nowhere, and the only one that could possibly be within range is a 85 year old man that needs me to come over to change the channel on his vcr.  It is incredibly unlikely that he is using my wireless.
[19:17] <daworm84> dtchen: yes sound comes from the right device
[19:17] <nmvictor> chaos2fu: sudo adduser <newusersname>  <group>   to add the new user to a group,eg admin group
[19:17] <carl_> dtchen: where do I go from here?
[19:17] <chaos2fu> yeah thanks i got it...;-)
[19:17] <dtchen> carl_: you should tell me the url that you used for pastebin
[19:17] <n3rd4i> hmm
[19:18] <th0r> lakotajames: then the netstat command given above will show most of what you want
[19:18] <carl_> dtchen: used for pastebin? I'm kinda new to this, I don't know how to pastebin :S
[19:18] <nmvictor> lakotajames:you made me laugh,poor that old man,if he only knew what you are saying of him, hmm..
[19:18] <dtchen> daworm84: please pastebin what "sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*" gives you
[19:19] <daworm84> dtchen: http://rafb.net/p/LjqwWQ55.html
[19:19] <dtchen> carl_: you should have received instructions from ubottu
[19:19] <StormWinged> i restarted the server with free-nx started and now i cant connect to it via client
[19:20] <dtchen> daworm84: ok, please open pavucontrol
[19:20] <dtchen> daworm84: Applications> Sound & Video> PulseAudio Volume Control
[19:20] <lakotajames> th0r:  It shows a lot of connections with apache, but I am fairly certain I don't have port forwarding set up so I can only access it from my own house.  Could you check to make sure?  http://lakotajames.homelinux.com
[19:20] <lakotajames> nmvictor:Well, I have fixed his vcr enough that it's ok for me to talk about him.  He owes me something, even if it is just making you laugh.
[19:20] <th0r> StormWinged: sounds like the nx server doesn't start automatically. You might try ssh to the server and start NX from the command line
[19:21] <mzz> nmvictor: perhaps he's a really good actor and already spying on his wireless and therefore does know!@
[19:21] <quickdraw> this may seem out there, but how can you view different characters in different .ttf fonts? Like the old Character map?
[19:21] <mzz> quickdraw: in what app?
[19:21] <nmvictor> mzz:yea,perhaps..
[19:21] <th0r> lakotajames:
[19:21] <mzz> quickdraw: some apps allow you to specify a list of fonts, and they'll fall back to a later font if the first one doesn't have some glyph
[19:22] <th0r> lakotajames: I get a google call button at that url
[19:22] <quickdraw> mzz, i'm just tweaking conky and wanted to see what characters/symbols were available in the PizzaDudeBullets font group.
[19:22] <daworm84> dtchen: ok, and now?
[19:22] <mzz> quickdraw: oh wait, I misparsed the question. Try gucharmap
[19:22] <quickdraw> if that makes sense. lol.
[19:22] <quickdraw> mzz, no worries. thank you.
[19:22] <dtchen> daworm84: play some music through Music Player or Movie Player
[19:22] <lakotajames> th0r: oh, I guess you can get to it then.  I bet that's the problem.  I need to go fix it :P
[19:22] <lakotajames> th0r: thanks
[19:22] <entraide-net> how to move sound in firefox and amarok from my laptop speakers to an usb headset
[19:23] <daworm84> dtchen: I do already. But Music is playing on wrong device
[19:23] <daworm84> dtchen: it is visible in pavucontrol
[19:23] <Etanol> success
[19:23] <dtchen> daworm84: in the Output Devices tab, does your desired audio device appear?
[19:23] <tones> Etanol: it worked?
[19:23] <Etanol> now I am booted into my linux
[19:23] <Etanol> but mbr is still crazy
[19:23] <dtchen> entraide-net: install pavucontrol and use it to migrate the streams to the desired card
[19:23] <tones> Etanol: ok, enter a termila
[19:23] <Etanol> done
[19:23] <tones> Etanol: type in sudo grub
[19:24] <daworm84> dtchen: yes both devices
[19:24] <Etanol> yea
[19:24] <tones> Etanol: do you get a grub prompt?
[19:24] <metanoia> Hey guys
[19:24] <Etanol> now "root (hd0,5)", "setup (hd0) " ?
[19:24] <dtchen> daworm84: now choose the Playback tab; do you see the audio stream you're currently playing?
[19:24] <tones> Etanol: you know the drill ;)
[19:24] <lakotajames> th0r: could you try it now?
[19:25] <nmvictor> Guys,I got a problem getting some script to detect Home,PgUp,PgDn and End key to run on my system.Ive tries with #bash and they dint do much,looks like they got enough to worry about.I pasted it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/168948/ .If you got any ideas where i went wrong,just let me know
[19:25] <Etanol> Error 12: Invalid device requested
[19:25] <daworm84> dtchen: yes
[19:25] <tones> hmm.
[19:25] <daworm84> dtchen: I see ALSA plug-in [firefox] playing (ALSA Playback)
[19:25] <box02> halo .. I got problem with firefox, somebody helps me out?
[19:25] <tones> Etanol: type "root (" then press tab
[19:25] <Etanol> I know, I have the right device numbers
[19:25] <entraide-net> thanks for your help dtchen
[19:25] <carl_> dtchen: I only received instructions from you as far as I know.. what URL do y9ou need, and how do I pastebin to get it?
[19:26] <th0r> lakotajames: give me a sec
[19:26] <metanoia> Im trying to compile malic on ubuntu 9.04 but I am get an error... http://paste.ubuntu.com/168954/ .. It says 'File or directorey doesnt exists'.. But all those directories in the command exists.. Does anyone can tell me what is wrong?
[19:26] <lakotajames> th0r: k, thanks
[19:26] <dtchen> daworm84: good. now click the down arrow next to the audio stream
[19:26] <tones> Etanol: thats odd then. er...
[19:26] <CarresMD> Hello, when I'm downloading at 1.8 MB/s my upload is going at about 50kb/s .. But it shouldn't. Anyone know why?
[19:26] <th0r> lakotajames: still get the call me button
[19:26] <Etanol> it just hates me
[19:26] <l7> hi.  i selected a bad option and compiz crashes on startup now.  how can i reset my compiz settings for gnome from the command line?
[19:26] <dtchen> daworm84: you should see a Move Stream... option
[19:26] <psxman> hi
[19:26] <daworm84> dtchen: nice one
[19:26] <tones> Etanol: what was the problem with your first grub?
[19:26] <Etanol> same
[19:26] <daworm84> dtchen: just switch to the other device and it wokrs great
[19:26] <sacarlson> ﻿tones:   would this work?  grub-install hd0
[19:27] <dtchen> !paste > carl_
[19:27] <tones> sacarlson: Etanol i think that would give the same error
[19:27] <lakotajames> th0r: 80 needs to be closed, right?
[19:27] <box02> hi hi my firefox was automatically closed on my ubuntu 9.04. why would you know?
[19:27] <daworm84> dtchen: is it now the default device?
[19:27] <tones> Etanol: try that anyway
[19:27] <metanoia> anyone?
[19:27] <dtchen> daworm84: nope, you would set that in the Output Devices tab
[19:27] <nmvictor> l7:that'l be hard,mybe you will have to remove compiz configuration settings manager then reinstall it later
[19:27] <Etanol> tones: try what?
[19:28] <CarresMD> When I'm downloading at 1.8 MB/s my upload is going at about 50kb/s but it shouldn't. Anyone know why?
[19:28] <l7> nmvictor: aren't compiz settings stored in a text file somewhere in my home directory?
[19:28] <daworm84> dtchen: yes I found the setting. Thanks alot!
[19:28] <dtchen> daworm84: it seems to have some issues, though: you seem to have to migrate all streams manually once, and then it functions properly
[19:28] <tones> Etanol: sudo grub-install hd0
[19:28] <nmvictor> l7:unless someones has otherwise approach for the command line
[19:28] <StormWinged> i restarted the server with free-nx started and now i cant connect to it via client
[19:28] <l7> nmvictor: also, is there a way i can disable compiz for my next login?
[19:28] <th0r> lakotajames: you need to block the wifi router from forwarding outside port 80 requests, but if you want to access it from within the house you need the wifi router to forward internal requests
[19:28] <zxd> hi
[19:28] <Etanol> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[19:28] <Etanol> should I remove my grub folder?
[19:28] <zxd> in what package is the module freetype for xorg in jaunty?
[19:29] <nmvictor> l7:yea,i think they are,PM so i can help you locate them
[19:29] <l7> nmvictor: that would do the trick, because then i could access compiz config and disable the bad plugin
[19:29] <tones> Etanol: that may help
[19:29] <box02> ubuntu department is in emergency operation. see you guys,, bye for now. :-D
[19:29] <daworm84> Does anyone know wich programm's I need to watch dvbt television for my Haupauge WinTV HVR 900 usb device?
[19:30] <orava> daworm84: Kaffeine is good program to that
[19:30] <carl_> dtchen: aah, thnx. the url is http://paste.ubuntu.com/168959/
[19:30] <tones> daworm84: google is your freind :)
[19:30] <Etanol> wtf
[19:30] <n3rd4i> test
[19:30] <Etanol> it "found" grub even though I removed it
[19:30] <tones> Etanol: does it still exist?
[19:30] <mzz> removing a boot manager rarely makes sense. Just overwrite it with a different one.
[19:30] <Etanol> tones, yes it spawns when I do grub-install
[19:31] <tones> Etanol: hm.. im out of ideas..
[19:31] <zxd> anyone?
[19:31] <Etanol> it's teh suck
[19:31] <CarresMD> What is the problem Etanol?
[19:32] <n3rd4i> what is the name of the nick class?
[19:32] <n3rd4i> in irc channel i mean
[19:32] <timpa71> g
[19:32] <CarresMD> Etanol: What's the problem?
[19:32] <Etanol> CarresMD: installed XP on partition0, and now the MBR points to the xp
[19:32] <Etanol> and I can't reinstall grub
[19:32] <dtchen> carl_: are you trying to use headphones or the internal speakers?
[19:32] <tones> Etanol: i have had several similar problems, i just cant remember how i solved it
[19:33] <carl_> dtchen: internal
[19:33] <Etanol> I don't want to reinstall linux :/ got it to work exactly as I want
[19:33] <Etanol> can an os put a "lock" on the mbr?
[19:33] <[1]kino> Hi, eveybody. I installed ubuntu 8.04. When it boots it boots straight into ubuntu. Does that mean that win xp was erased?
[19:33] <fornix> Etanol: can't you use the live cd and fix the issue
[19:33] <th0r> Etanol: when you install xp AFTER linux you install the windows boot loader in place of grub, and it won't recognize linux
[19:33] <daworm84> orava: kaffeine is for KDE, dows it work in gnome?
[19:33] <dtchen> carl_: can you test if the headphones work?
[19:33] <tones> Etanol: no
[19:33] <Etanol> fornix: i used the grub boot cd to boot into linux
[19:33] <Decinoge> hmmm
[19:34] <orava> daworm84: Yes, it work fine with gnome
[19:34] <tones> Etanol: its grub itself and/or your partition
[19:34] <Etanol> th0r: yes, exactly
[19:34] <rumpel2> [1]kino, no
[19:34] <carl_> dtchen: oh! they work
[19:34] <Etanol> tones: wat?
[19:34] <sacarlson> tones:  maybe you should get all the info have him run this script http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[19:34] <[1]kino> rumpel2 - how do i go to win xp?
[19:34] <rumpel2> [1]kino, press ESC (i guess) while booting.. then the grub boot-menu should appear
[19:34] <th0r> Etanol: then you need to boot into linux with the grub cd and reinstall grub to the hard drive
[19:34] <Decinoge> does anyone knows why VBA always put the emulation window to SLEEP when i try to close it?
[19:34] <fornix> Etanol: have a look at this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[19:34] <[1]kino> rumpel2: Oh, in the menu i'll have the option to go to win xp?
[19:35] <th0r> Etanol: you will need to know the drive and partition you want grub to boot into and feed that info to grub-install
[19:35] <Etanol> th0r: that is what I am doing now
[19:35] <rumpel2> [1]kino, ususally... yes
[19:35] <Decinoge> i'm trying to develop a GBA game here, and it gets annoing having to KILL the process for the window to go (and the process only closes after i close the VBA itself)
[19:35] <[1]kino> rumpel2 - great, thanx!
[19:35] <tones> Etanol: go to sacarlsons link
[19:35] <tones> Etanol: run that script
[19:35] <Etanol> sacarlsons?
[19:35] <tones> Etanol: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[19:35] <carl_> dtchen: but what could the reason be for the headphones working but the internal speakers not working?
[19:36] <Decinoge> hmmm... i do better asking the forums
[19:36] <rumpel2> [1]kino, you can change the grub-config by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst ....
[19:36] <dtchen> carl_: now try muting Headphones, disconnecting your headphones, and seeing if audio plays from the internal speakers :)
[19:36] <ch0de> Can you please tell me what exactly is the compiz configuration file? I enabled Blur on the GUI, and now everything got messed up, so I need to log in in recovery mode and disable blur
[19:37] <Laurenceb> hi, ./bootstrap: line 2: aclocal: command not found  ,- any idea on that?
[19:37] <Etanol> tones: it just gives me an error
[19:37] <Etanol> Invalid device requested
[19:37] <Etanol> (Error 12)
[19:37] <tones> Etanol: the script? is it run through sudo?
[19:37] <akopacsi> anybody having ubuntu questions?
[19:38] <Etanol> tones: it is run as root
[19:38] <CarresMD> ch0de: Try 'metacity --replace' on the command line
[19:38] <Buiss> where can i get man pages for kernel functions like kmap etc?
[19:38] <ch0de> CarresMD what does this command do? I want the location of the file to pico it
[19:38] <sacarlson> Etanol: I think it's a device maping problem to find out we would have to look at all info http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[19:38] <tones> Etanol: ok, open grub again and instead try setup (hd0,5)
[19:39] <Dante123> hi all, I installed 9.04 (with a separate home folder partition).  Just installed a program (called FIrstClass client- deb file) but it won't run when I try to run it.  It installed in opt/firstclass rather than my home folder.  How do I change permissions so I can access and run this program?  Or do I need to add myself to root group or something ?  Did not have this issue before when home folder and rest of os was on same partition
[19:39] <ubuntu> -irc.fr
[19:39] <Etanol> tones: same error
[19:39] <carl_> dtchen: no audio from the speakers :S I tried changing output device in preferences > sound, but no result..
[19:39] <dtchen> carl_: ok, guess you're stuck with headphones for now
[19:39] <tones> Etanol: ok. what is the /dev/*** file for your hard drive?
[19:39] <TML> If I found bug #68572 in a different (newer) version of the package, should I reopen the existing bug against the old package, or file a new one?
[19:39] <Etanol> sda5
[19:39] <th0r> Dante123: use sudo to create a link in /usr/local/bin for the executable that resides in the /opt folder. That should be all you need to do
[19:40] <Slart> Dante123: explain the "won't run"-part.. it gives you an error?
[19:40] <dtchen> carl_: there's likely a bug open affecting linux for your symptoms. try searching https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[19:40] <carl_> dtchen: aight, but that works. thnx for the help! :)
[19:40] <Dante123> Addition:  the deb file ran, it is the firstclass executable that wont
[19:40] <CarresMD> ch0de: It will replace the compiz window manager.. So I shouldn't be messup .. Then change the settings of compiz using whatever you've used .. And then type 'compiz --replace' in the terminal
[19:40] <Etanol> tones: the hard drive is sda, and my linux partition is sda5
[19:40] <Decinoge> ... true
[19:40] <sacarlson> Etanol: I think the problem is in this file  /boot/grub/device.map
[19:40] <Dante123> th0r exactly how do I do that?
[19:40] <tones> Etanol: i was looking for sda, but anyway, open /boot/grub/device.map in your favourite cli or gui text editor
[19:40] <Decinoge> ups... wrong window
[19:40] <clearscreen> After removing exaile my sound (in firefox/rhythmbox/pidgin) does no longer work. alsamixer has no devices muted and the proper sliders are at 100%.. no errors are shown anywhere, there just isnt any sound... anyone willing to point me in the right direction?
[19:41] <th0r> Dante123: will it run if you type '/opt/firstclass/executable_name'?
[19:41] <tones> Etanol: can you see (hd0) /dev/sda ??
[19:41] <coleys> clearscreen: Whats your sound card?
[19:41] <ch0de> CarresMD no problem. I'll try that, but after I know where the compiz configuration file is located
[19:41] <Etanol> tones: where?
[19:41] <Dante123> th0r  good idea, now I get /opt/firstclass/fcc: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:41] <dtchen> clearscreen: please pastebin the output from "amixer"
[19:41] <tones> Etanol: /boot/grub/device.map
[19:41] <CarresMD> ch0de: Why?
[19:42] <th0r> Dante123: then there are missing dependencies...looks like it is a kde app maybe
[19:42] <n3rd4i> im having problems with CSS
[19:42] <Etanol> tones: it has 3 rows
[19:42] <Houba1986> hey, does anyone know if theres a fix for the adobe flash 10 working slow in firefox???
[19:42] <n3rd4i> anyone can help me?
[19:42] <Etanol> what am I looking for?
[19:42] <ch0de> please tell me. I wanna edit it manually :(
[19:42] <th0r> Dante123: at the least, install libqt3 from synaptic
[19:42] <tones> one saying (hd0) /dev/sda
[19:42] <Etanol> tones: yes
[19:42] <Etanol> (hd0)	/dev/sda
[19:42] <tones> Etanol: ok, so the mapping is correct.
[19:42] <carl_> dtchen: got it working, noob of me not to see it before :S the "mono playback" was disabled.. (smacks head)
[19:42] <clearscreen> dtchen: http://pastebin.com/f4a224220
[19:42] <dtchen> carl_: ah :)
[19:42] <ch0de> I'll do that onmy own risk, CarresMD
[19:43] <Dante123> th0r will try that...maybe it wasnt a permissions thing at all
[19:43] <tones> Etanol: i suggest removing and reinstalling grub through apt.. see if that helps
[19:43] <JoshJ> Is it safe to take an ext3 /home directory from a previous install and treat it as ext4 in a new install?
[19:43] <Houba1986> or is anyone else experiencing this slow adobe flash 10 in firefox using ubuntu 9.04???
[19:43] <Dante123> th0r it seems to already be there.
[19:44] <clearscreen> JoshJ: no, it is fine the other way around though
[19:44] <lakotajames> th0r: what about now?
[19:44] <CarresMD> ch0de: There isn't a config file for compiz.. It's manager by gconf
[19:44] <JoshJ> clearscreen, thank you. Would you suggest i make my new  / as ext4 or ext3 if my /home is ext3 then?
[19:44] <ch0de> yea I want to edit gconf
[19:44] <tones> Etanol: if not that, then perhaps try all this from the grub cd prompt
[19:44] <dtchen> clearscreen: amixer -Dhw:0 set 'IEC958' mute
[19:45] <lakotajames> th0r: lol, I accidently killed my internet for a bit.  You have any idea how do make apache not serve to webpages outside my home?
[19:45] <th0r> lakotajames: it refreshed so it looks like I can still get to it. I only get a google call button in the top left corner
[19:45] <carl_> dtchen: but thanks for the help, nice of you to take time out of your day for my problems :)
[19:45] <CarresMD> ch0de: /usr/bin/gconf-editor
[19:45] <Etanol> nothing works
[19:45] <clearscreen> dtchen: I did that, still no sound :P
[19:45] <th0r> lakotajames: I would set up an ipchains rule to block all but 192.168 addresses from port 80...but that is just me
[19:45] <Dante123> th0r I will install libqt dev stuff too
[19:46] <tones> Etanol: try lilo. i dont know how to install it, but it may work
[19:46] <th0r> Dante123: you don't need the dev unless you are compiling the program from source
[19:46] <lakotajames> th0r: how do I go about doing that?
[19:46] <CarresMD> I'm off .. Bye
[19:46] <th0r> lakotajames: I don't think I want to get into configuring a firewall....it isn't a one liner
[19:46] <JoshJ> lakotajames, if you have a router you can handle it there
[19:46] <JoshJ> just block incoming connections on that port to that computer
[19:47] <JoshJ> very easy to do on a linksys or similar
[19:47] <th0r> lakotajames: you can also block it at the wifi router in most routers.
[19:47] <th0r> lakotajames: but each will be different so I can't begin to guess on that one
[19:47] <paul68> I have a usb external drive connected to my server however it somehow doesn't show when I enter df -h how do I solve this?
[19:47] <lakotajames> th0r, JoshJ: K, imma try that
[19:47] <jake> You can use either GRUB or LILO to dual-boot Windows 2000/Windows XP and Linux. Both functionally work fine, but from what I've read, GRUB requires less maintenance, as LILO requires you to reinstall the boot loader
[19:47] <Dante123> th0r could this be a 64 bit versus 32bit problem,  This is my first go with 64 bit
[19:47] <th0r> lakotajames: I believe all routers though default to NO forwarding, so I suspect you forwarded port 80 in the router
[19:48] <th0r> Dante123: don't know....have avoided 64 bit so far
[19:48] <clearscreen> dtchen: I reinstalled exaile, killed pulseaudio, then played a random file in exaile (which probably reinitialized pulseaudio properly, although I manually tried pulseaudio -D before).. sound back again now
[19:48] <lakotajames> th0r: yeah, I did. But I removed the entry just now, but for whatever reason you can still get to it
[19:48] <JoshJ> lakotajames, yeah, th0r is right. you might want to look at portforward.com and do what it says for your router, but block instead of forward at the key step
[19:48] <JoshJ> lakotajames, restart your router then maybe
[19:48] <entraide-net> pavucontrol don't work at all , what I do ???
[19:48] <th0r> lakotajames: did you restart the router? some routers won't see the changes until they are restarted
[19:49] <lakotajames> JoshJ, Th0r:  OH! good idea.  Lemme do that real fast.
[19:49] <Etanol> how do I "run lilconfig(8)"
[19:49] <ch0de> what is the default key shortcut to run terminal?
[19:50] <th0r> Etanol: aren't you using grub?
[19:50] <mzz> Etanol: what's telling you to? The (8) is usually a reference to a manpage section
[19:50] <Etanol> umm
[19:50] <eleite> hi. how do i copy a log file into a flash drive via the terminal?
[19:50] <Etanol> my fstab is weird
[19:50] <Etanol> can grub bug because of the fstab?
[19:50] <paul68> I have a usb external drive connected to my server however it somehow doesn't show when I enter df -h how do I solve this?
[19:50] <tones> Etanol: it probably means "man liloconfig"
[19:50] <mzz> eleite: if it's already mounted: cp /path/to/file /media/whateveritiscalled/
[19:50] <Etanol> tones: nooo
[19:50] <walrus_> Hey anyone using the CPU frequency gnome applets? For some reason the ondeman setting doesn't work... even if i run cpu eating programs they stay at 50% frequency :(
[19:50] <JoshJ> eleite, something like cp /var/log/example.log /media/disk/
[19:50] <Etanol> maybe I just need to fix my fstab
[19:50] <Buiss> eleite: use cp command
[19:51] <eleite> thanks :)
[19:51] <Trolden> Hi can i identify my nick automatik ? so i dont have to type in my password every time i logon ?
[19:51] <tones> Etanol: grub accesses the drive raw, thru /dev/sda
[19:51] <mzz> eleite: if it's not already mounted: gnome-mount can probably mount it
[19:51] <JoshJ> Trolden, depends on your IRC client
[19:51] <tones> Etanol: it ignores the fstab
[19:51] <Dante123> new install of 9.04 64 bit, I have had the system lockup twice.  ctrl-alt-bkspace is disabled by default in 9.04.  How to reenable?
[19:51] <JoshJ> in xchat it's easy enough to do
[19:51] <deany> !dontzap
[19:51] <jrib> !dontzap | Dante123
[19:51] <Etanol> tones: this is what my root in fstab looks like:
[19:51] <Etanol> dmesg |grep mount
[19:51] <Etanol> ops wait
[19:51] <Etanol> UUID=bc09c65a-27ba-4a43-908e-05285436bf3c /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[19:52] <maynards-girl> how do i rip a cd to mp3 in ubunt 9.04?
[19:52] <JoshJ> Trolden, i'd look but i don't have my install finished yet so i can't give you the actual steps
[19:52] <tones> Etanol: thats fine, its just referring to a partition through its uuid
[19:52] <ch0de> what is the key combi nation to run terminal? I remember it was alt+t but it doesn not work
[19:52] <JoshJ> (windows xchat is a bit different)
[19:52] <deany> maynards-girl, apt-get install asunder
[19:52] <Slart> maynards-girl: use one of the many ripper programs.. search for rip cd in synaptic or similar words
[19:52] <mach> grip, ogmrip (how to rip CD)
[19:52] <th0r> maynards-girl: install grip
[19:52] <evantandersen> when i try to load a module, i have to modprobe it then insmod to get it to load. Either by itself does not work.
[19:52] <deany> i prefer rubyripper tho, as its more like EAC
[19:52] <tones> Etanol: try typing into a terminal "ps aux | grep hal" and see if anything has a hal-lock on your drive
[19:53] <maynards-girl> thank you. i will try one of those
[19:53] <akopacsi> anybody wanna chat in private about migration from windows to ubuntu?
[19:53] <sebsebseb> akopacsi: yep
[19:53] <ab8cl> when Update Manager listed that 9.04 was available I upgraded thinking that it would stay with the 64 bit OS since I was running 8.10 64 bit version.  I'm not sure if it did so how can I tell if I am running 9.04 64 bit version?
[19:54] <Etanol> aaaargh
[19:54] <Etanol> how can it be so hard for a program to just change the mbr
[19:54] <Slart> ab8cl: it did.. you can't upgrade from 64bit to 32bit.. or the other way around
[19:54] <Etanol> do I need to chmod my /boot/
[19:54] <Etanol> ?
[19:54] <shiznebit> hey guys i need some assistance in setting up PPTP
[19:54] <Slart> ab8cl: but you can run "uname -a" to see what kernel you're using
[19:54] <tones> Etanol: i doubt it.
[19:54] <Dante123> jrib do you have to run the sudo dontzap --disable just once or how do you make the changes permanent?
[19:55] <mach> pls do you know how to enable (install) graphics splash screen in  boot process?
[19:55] <jrib> Dante123: no idea
[19:55] <Slart> ab8cl: if it says x86_64 at the end it's a 64bit kernel
[19:55] <adamsad1> i'm trying to back my data up to an external drive. i formatted half the drive in ntfs for backing up windows, and half in ext3 for ubuntu. i can mount the ext3 partition, but i can't write to it. what do i need to do?
[19:55] <efjc> shiznebit: client or server?
[19:55] <Capoeira> join #canaima
[19:55] <ab8cl> it doesn't
[19:55] <mzz> adamsad1: fails how?
[19:55] <Flannel> Etanol: your MBR isn't in /boot/ its on your drive
[19:55] <Slart> abchirk: what does it say then?
[19:55] <Aceback> 'ey there
[19:55] <shiznebit> efjc: client
[19:55] <tones> Flannel: he/she knows that
[19:55] <Etanol> Flannel: yea, but grub is having problem reading /boot/grub/stage1
[19:55] <abchirk> I donÄt know
[19:56] <Slart> ab8cl: : what does it say then?
[19:56] <shiznebit> basically i got it working but im having major problems. Like the speed is half of what it is supposed to be
[19:56] <Slart> abchirk: sorry.. wrong nick
[19:56] <adamsad1> mzz: it just won't let me create folders or copy files or anything--it acts like it's read-only
[19:56] <Aceback> :(
[19:56] <abchirk> hehe yeah.. whats your problem? Slart
[19:56] <mzz> adamsad1: are you doing this as you or as root?
[19:56] <fuad> Hi all, i am looking for references and documentations of kernel development functions like kmap, create_proc_entry etc. Is there any ? also documentations on definitions like S_IRUGO, S_IFREG. also i have downloaded manpages from kernel.org in tar.gz format. Afetr make install also no manual entry for kmap
[19:57] <adamsad1> mzz: nevermind... i just answered my own question... i need to be root... duh
[19:57] <Aceback> I've internet problems.... :P
[19:57] <Etanol> goddamnit!!
[19:57] <mzz> adamsad1: either that or you need to chmod/chown the root of the partition once as root
[19:57] <Slart> abchirk: being devilishly handsome, way more clever than you all, smelling good.... oh.. and I have a tendency to make things up as I go ;)
[19:57] <fuad> i am looking for references and documentations of kernel development functions like kmap, create_proc_entry etc. Is there any ? also documentations on definitions like S_IRUGO, S_IFREG. also i have downloaded manpages from kernel.org in tar.gz format. Afetr make install also no manual entry for kmap
[19:58] <mzz> adamsad1: that is: mount the partition, then run chmod/chown on the mountpoint
[19:58] <abchirk> lol, kj
[19:58] <tones> Etanol: sorry to say it, youre screwed.
[19:58] <ab8cl> never mind it is ok, I looked at System Monitor>System tab it doesn't show the x86 64  like uname -a  thanks ----
[19:58] <adamsad1> mzz: okay--thanks
[19:58] <dsabecky> fuad: Go to #ubuntu-offtopic. They get into more complex things there.
[19:58] <Aceback> hey I got a question
[19:58] <Aceback> :/
[19:58] <Pici> dsabecky: -offtopic is not a support channel.
[19:58] <tones> Etanol: i remember reading somewhere that there is a way of chainloading in windows..
[19:59] <Pici> fuad: #ubuntu-kernel would be better suited for your question.
[19:59] <Aceback> Pici
[19:59] <Pici> Aceback: ?
[19:59] <Aceback> I got a problem
[19:59] <dsabecky> Pici: Seeing as it's offtopic. Saying it's anything would be false as it can't be on topic. :P
[19:59] <Aceback> with my connection :(
[19:59] <nperry> !ask > Aceback
[19:59] <deany> I thought the ext4 lockup upon deleting large files bug was supposed to be fixed, however my friend is still experiencing it. im having to redo his home to ext3.
[19:59] <Etanol> how can it even bug?
[20:00] <tones> Etanol: im sorry?
[20:00] <Aceback> oh k
[20:00] <c0ntract0r> is amarok a little finicky?  I scan a (huge) music folder, and it shows a whole list of artists, and then when  i double click on an artist it doesnt branch down to songs, should it do that? or am i just not doing it correctly?
[20:00] <nperry> Whats up Aceback :)
[20:00] <mzz> deany: why do you expect redoing it as ext3 to help?
[20:00] <ab8cl> now if I could only get the Volume louder and the Video to play right....
[20:00] <deany> because its a bug in ext4 ?
[20:00] <Aceback> My prob is this:
[20:00] <Aceback> when I installed ubuntu 8.10
[20:01] <Aceback> eth0 wasnt detected, couldnt get it to detection
[20:01] <Aceback> now that I got 9.04
[20:01] <billybigrigger_> deany::: im doing a raid setup right now and was thinking about doing it in ext4, but i have been convinced by others to stick with ext3, ext4 is still very young
[20:01] <Aceback> I actually get connected and stuff... but some sites wont load
[20:01] <Etanol> It shouldn't give me an error
[20:01] <Etanol> this is bs
[20:01] <Aceback> and I cant update anything
[20:01] <mzz> deany: it is? iiuc ext4 should be able to do this faster, not slower
[20:01] <Slart> Aceback: please.. let the poor enter key rest a while.. type it all on one line.. perhaps use the . once in a while
[20:01] <Aceback> oh k
[20:02] <tones> Etanol: there are such things as vowels you know ;)
[20:02] <efjc> shiznebit: sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp
[20:02] <deany> mzz, it does it faster.. it does it badly as its a bug and locks up the pc.
[20:02] <Aceback> I tried everything but it still won't load those sites, I even changed the interfaces file
[20:02] <Etanol> tones: hm?
[20:03] <sacarlson> Etanol: ready to take a full look yet?  this script will diplay all the data we need to see.  http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=250055
[20:03] <tones> Etanol: never mind
[20:03] <paul68> I have a usb external drive connected to my server however it somehow doesn't show when I enter df -h how do I solve this?
[20:03] <deany> the bug is "in progress" and set to an importance level of "medium".  its the filesystem, thought it deserves a higher priority
[20:04] <eleite> i'm trying to mount my flashdrive but i don't know what device it is. it doesnt seem to appear when i type "mount" command. how can i find the device name?
[20:04] <mzz> paul68: is it mounted?
[20:04] <nmvictor> Aceback:concerned about ypur problem.what is it?
[20:04] <paul68> mzz: I set it up so it should be mounted but I can't even detect it
[20:04] <shiznebit> efjc: i have pptp  for linux installed
[20:05] <Etanol> em
[20:05] <Slart> eleite: one way is to run this in a terminal "sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog" then remove the flash drive, wait a while.. then reinsert it
[20:05] <Etanol> this is strange
[20:05] <nmvictor> eleite:doesnt it show on nutilus sidepane?
[20:05] <Etanol>  => Grub0.97 is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the same drive in partition #256 for /boot/grub/stage2.
[20:05] <Etanol>  => No boot loader is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb
[20:05] <Aceback> nmvictor: eth0 works fine and stuff.. but the internet connection doesnt work properly. most sites wont load cept for google and I cant update anything
[20:05] <Etanol> aha nvm
[20:05] <Slart> eleite: the text in the terminal should tell you where it's mounted.. if there was an error etc
[20:05] <eleite> slart: ill try that now
[20:05] <mzz> paul68: does it show up in dmesg and /dev/ ?
[20:05] <tones> Etanol: that doesnt sound right...
[20:05] <mzz> paul68: or in lsusb?
[20:05] <Etanol> it says it works
[20:06] <Etanol> maybe I should restart and check if it works
[20:06] <paul68> it shows in lsusb
[20:06] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason
[20:06] <paul68> mzz: it shows in lsusb
[20:06] <Capoeira> I need hepl, i have 3 PC
[20:06] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason
[20:06] <h00k__> So, I've been running a task for the past week to recover my data from an external drive.  I decided to play Americas Army and my system appears frozen.  Is there a kernel shortcut to kill the current running task (alt+f4 isn't responsive)?  I'd like to avoid rebooting if I can.
[20:06] <mzz> paul68: how are you trying to mount it?
[20:06] <tones> Etanol: go ahead
[20:06] <Capoeira> 2 PC - Ubuntu / Windows
[20:06] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the rea
[20:06] <Capoeira> 1 PC - Only Linux
[20:06] <tones> Etanol: ill wait for you :)
[20:06] <eleite> Slart: last few lines mention [sdd]. could that be it?
[20:06] <mwa1> folks, my laptop just hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason
[20:07] <mzz> h00k__: don't press this yet, but if nobody has a better idea try alt+sysrq+k (which should kill your entire X session)
[20:07] <Capoeira> I have router Cnet CNIG-914 and only conect internet PC with Windows
[20:07] <mwa1> my box hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason
[20:07] <samba_> hi, how to set volume in terminal for pulseaudio device , amixer don't works?
[20:07] <Slart> eleite: that sounds reasonable.. usually it's something like sdd1 but you can make a file system on a single drive if you really want to
[20:07] <efjc> shiznebit: can the network manager sugest pptp as an option when you try to add a vpn
[20:07] <tones> just out of interest, is anyone else here 12 or under?
[20:07] <Capoeira> when i reboot two pc with Linux y dont have conection with Internet
[20:07] <paul68> If I remember correctly I mount it with fstab I thought even when It goes in standby it will get the drives name back when I ask data from that drive
[20:07] <Slart> eleite: sdd is the whole drive, sdd1 would be the first partition on the sdd drive
[20:07] <h00k__> mzz: alright, I'm hoping it doesn't go to that because the recovery software is running in my session
[20:07] <eleite> slart: well all i need to do is paste a log file into the flashdrive so i can show it to someone online via pastebin
[20:08] <shiznebit> efjc: too be frank, i have my PPTP
[20:08] <Aceback> I have teh same problem capoeira does, cept that my connection doesnt work well
[20:08] <Slart> tones: mentally? or..
[20:08] <Aceback> *has
[20:08] <mzz> paul68: I have no experience with usb devices going "in standby" if that means more than just spinning down. Tried remounting the device?
[20:08] <Slart> eleite: it doesn't show up in nautilus?
[20:08] <nmvictor> Aceback:try updating through the terminal.For the sites,maybe the connection isnt so good.You know how small google.com page is and their cache-technology.maybe your ISP might explain further.how long has this been?
[20:08] <tones> Slart: works for me :)
[20:08] <rumpel2> spinning down flashdrive? :)
[20:08] <tones> Slart: just wondering if im too smart for my age...
[20:08] <mzz> h00k__: don't hit this yet either, but sometimes ctrl+alt+f1 still works too. And if you have a second system and sshd running you can ssh in
[20:09] <Slart> tones: yes, definately.. way to smart
[20:09] <eleite> slart: what's nautilus? heh.
[20:09] <Slart> see.. I can't even spell correctly..
[20:09] <tones> Slart: good to know :D
[20:09] <h00k__> mzz: I don't have sshd running, i thought about that, too, I also can't get to any other TTY'sm
[20:09] <h00k__> ,
[20:09] <Aceback> nmvictor: happens always, I've tried to update via terminal yet nothing happened. It attempted to reconnect many times as every attempt ended in a failure
[20:09] <Slart> eleite: nautilus is the file browser thingy in gnome..
[20:09] <lakotajames> Alright, th0r, I reset to factory defaults, forgot the username, and had to call the ISP.  can you get to it now?
[20:09] <Slart> eleite: the program you use to see the files on your hard drives
[20:09] <evantandersen> i'm having a problem with a kernel module. if i just insmod it first, i get this error: "insmod: error inserting 'it87.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module"    When i go to modprobe it i get this: " FATAL: Error inserting it87 (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/it87.ko): No such device" however if i then insmod it again, everything works. Whats going on?
[20:09] <BrightEyes`> which is the lightest distro based on ubuntu?
[20:10] <h00k__> mzz: I think I might be screwed.
[20:10] <eleite> slart: ah, well i'm doing all this because my X isn't starting up. im getting "no devices found".
[20:10] <evantandersen> BrightEyes` xubuntu?
[20:10] <Slart> BrightEyes`: xubuntu is pretty light.. not sure if it's the lightest
[20:10] <eleite> slart: it happened after i used the update manager to install the latest vesa drivers, now i cant get into x
[20:10] <paul68> mzz: tried that but drive can't be found
[20:10] <Slart> eleite: oohh.. I see.. then you won't be able to run nautilus.. sorry
[20:10] <evantandersen> eleite:  have you tried using xfix?
[20:10] <mzz> paul68: its name might have changed. Check dmesg.
[20:11] <paul68> mzz: trying to find what the name of the drive linux gave to this drive now
[20:11] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> http://www.neobux.com/?rh=68656E726971756539303030
[20:11] <yunle96> try init 1
[20:11] <BrightEyes`> evantandersen: im running xubuntu now but i want something lighter
[20:11] <chadi> how can I edit the compiz configurtation file manually? where is it located?
[20:11] <yunle96> fix zhe xwindow
[20:11] <h00k__> So, I've been running a task for the past week to recover my data from an external drive.  I decided to play Americas Army and my system appears frozen.  Is there a kernel shortcut to kill the current running task (alt+f4 isn't responsive)?  I'd like to avoid rebooting if I can.
[20:11] <eleite> evantandersen: yea i tried it when running in recover mode, didn't seem to fix it
[20:11] <walrus_> Hey anyone using the CPU frequency gnome applets? For some reason the 'ondemand' setting doesn't work... even if i run cpu eating programs they stay at 50% frequency :(
[20:11] <eleite> evantandersen: is there another way to run xfix?
[20:11] <evantandersen> BrightEyes` well, there is puppy dog linux, but it's not based off ubuntu.
[20:11] <Etanol> works
[20:11] <Etanol> -_-
[20:11] <tones> Etanol: worked?
[20:12] <evantandersen> eleite yes but same result would occur, so no point
[20:12] <Slart> h00k__: not sure what you can do with the REISUB thingy.. google for REISUB for more info
[20:12] <tones> Etanol: cool
[20:12] <Etanol> I inserted the grub cd again
[20:12] <Etanol> and it fixed the mbr
[20:12] <BrightEyes`> evantandersen: well puppy is for too old pcs
[20:12] <tones> Etanol: oh ok
[20:12] <Etanol> hax
[20:12] <Slart> BrightEyes`: why not try the server version and add something like ... fluxbox
[20:12] <tones> Etanol: forgot about that :D
[20:12] <h00k__> Slart: yeah, would probably work but I'd like to avoid rebooting
[20:12] <Matr|x> i tryed to install Compiz-Fusion but its not working with me
[20:12] <BrightEyes`> Slart: well i dont know
[20:12] <sheldon> Anyone have any experience with Cedega?
[20:12] <evantandersen> BrightEyes`:  maybe you could install xubuntu, remove xfce and install flubox or similar. Xfce is really that lightweight of a Window Manager
[20:12] <Etanol> tones: if I change the grub config, will the changes reflect the next time I boot?
[20:12] <jdu> kOOk__ wait it out?
[20:13] <Slart> h00k__: yes.. I was more thinking about there possibly being other letters to press for killing processes
[20:13] <shadow98> is there anyway to save a file if im not root...i have made changes to this file that i don't want to loose....
[20:13] <shiznebit> efjc: thanks for your help, i think i have sorted it out :)
[20:13] <tones> if you change /boot/grub/menu.lst, yes
[20:13] <BrightEyes`> any other distros that have apt installed?
[20:13] <tones> Etanol: if you change /boot/grub/menu.lst, yes
[20:13] <Slart> shadow98: save it in your home folder
[20:13] <nmvictor> hook__:kill O will kill everything except shell,but i dont know if its a safe command,here what others have to say about it first
[20:13] <Slart> shadow98: then move it as root to the right place
[20:13] <carpii> well, debian has apt obviously
[20:13] <shadow98> Slart, how do you tell it where to save it...im used to just doing :x!
[20:13] <sacarlson> ﻿tones: so what fixed a secound boot of supergrub disk?
[20:13] <jdu> shadow98, save it some where else then copy it as root
[20:13] <lakotajames> how do I set up the ctrl-alt-backspace shortcut again, and why was it removed in the first place?
[20:14] <Slart> shadow98: oh.. in vim.. isn't there a built-in help function? vim always scared me.. never quite got the hang of it
[20:14] <mwa1> my box hangs once i open any video file. What could be the reason
[20:14] <shadow98> so do you just go :x!/home/username/
[20:14] <tones> sacarlson: Etanol just used the grub cd prompt to install grub agin instead.
[20:14] <Slart> !dontzap
[20:14] <evantandersen> shadow98: write in the name when you press Control - x, don't just immeadiy press enter, change the path first
[20:14] <Noah0504> lakotajames: So, people didn't accidentally use it.
[20:14] <maco> lakotajames: upstream thinks its easy to hit by accident
[20:14] <eleite> now i've copied my log file to where i mounted the device "/mnt". it's not letting me umount it. says device is busy?
[20:14] <Etanol> thanks for the help guys
[20:15] <mzz> eleite: cd out of that directory (that's often it)
[20:15] <Etanol> really appreciate it :)
[20:15] <lakotajames> maco: how the hell do you hit that accidently?
[20:15] <jdu> eleite, man lsof
[20:15] <mzz> lakotajames: I've managed it!
[20:15] <eleite> mzz: that worked thanks
[20:15] <lakotajames> mzz:what were you trying to hit at the time?
[20:15] <Ljorring> I have a sound issue in Ubuntu 8.04. I can play an mp3 file in an audio player, and it looks like it's playing, but I hear no sound. Can someone please help me?
[20:15] <gsteinert> hey, im having trouble with my ethernet connection on my netbook
[20:15] <Aceback> got connectivity problem with 9.04 :(
[20:15] <mzz> lakotajames: got my brain/fingers crossed when hitting alt+backspace (kill word before cursor) and some other command involving ctrl
[20:15] <Slart> Ljorring: are you using pulseaudio?
[20:16] <jdu> eleite, you could do something like    lsof | grep /mnt
[20:16] <Ljorring> Slart: no, I have tried installing it without any luck
[20:16] <jdu> eleite, it will tell you what is making the device be busy
[20:16] <lakotajames> mzz: I guess that makes sense.  so how do I get it back?
[20:16] <shadow98> i can't i still can't figure out how in vi to save to different location..
[20:16] <Slart> Ljorring: installing it? it's installed by default
[20:16] <jdu> shadow98,   :s /home/<user>/filename
[20:16] <mzz> lakotajames: use the dontzap utility (and probably log out and back in) as mentioned above
[20:16] <WhiteHat> hellp
[20:16] <gsteinert> i had the device in ifconfig, but took it down because it was interfering with my wireless connection
[20:16] <Slart> shadow98: can't you press :? to get help?
[20:17] <gsteinert> now it wont show in ifconfig or lshw
[20:17] <eleite> jdu: thanks judo. it worked out. now ive gotta do it all over again because w/e filesystem it's formatted to, my mac cant read
[20:17] <jdu> shadow98, sorry :w ...
[20:17] <WhiteHat> uhm hello
[20:17] <Ljorring> Slart: I have upgraded to 8.04 from 7. I think I have it removed atm using ALSA instead
[20:17] <shadow98> i tried :help didn't say
[20:17] <ignacio> hi
[20:17] <tones> shadow98:
[20:17] <LordQuackstar> is their anyway to mount something specifying only sectors? I accedentially reformatted my external HD with the format button in the usb-creator program, but my drive shows up as unformatted. I have a ~140GB encrypted partion squezzed bewteen 2 normal partions, and i need to get that encrypted partion back.
[20:17] <Slart> Ljorring: well.. then I don't know what to do.. alsa and I were never on friendly terms
[20:17] <shadow98> still keeps telling me it cannot open file for writing..
[20:17] <tones> shadearg: just use :w *path*
[20:17] <shadow98> tones: yes
[20:17] <WhiteHat> I am trying to seed a torrent i downloaded but the program I use is not uploading at all do you think there might be a problem with my ip tables?
[20:18] <tones> shadow98: just use :w *path*
[20:18] <Ljorring> Slart: okay.. can you help me installing pulseaudio?
[20:18] <muse> "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter." I get this error when I try share a folder using the right-click menu item "Sharing Options" Any ideas for fixing it?
[20:18] <ikonia> WhiteHat: what is the application you are using ?
[20:18] <shadow98> i did :w /home/myuser/filename.txt
[20:18] <tones> shadow98: or just use :write *path*
[20:18] <nmvictor> 2
[20:18] <tones> shadow98: did it  work?
[20:18] <Slart> Ljorring: nope.. wouldn't know where to start.. since it's always installed by default I've never had to do it manually
[20:18] <WhiteHat> I use qBitorrent
[20:18] <shadow98> /home/bthompson/test.txt" E212: Can't open file for writing
[20:18] <mzz> WhiteHat: either that or you're behind a router
[20:18] <Aceback> got connectivity problem with 9.04 :(
[20:18] <ikonia> !info qBitorrent
[20:19] <mzz> WhiteHat: err, scratch that
[20:19] <Ljorring> Slart: okay :( thanks anyway, mate
[20:19] <jdu> shadow98, what user are running as?
[20:19] <Slart> Ljorring: hope you find someone that can help you
[20:19] <tones> shadow98: needs more priveleges?
[20:19] <ikonia> WhiteHat: that isn't a package provided by ubuntu, where did you get it ?
[20:19] <jdu> shadow98, you need to be bthompson in that case
[20:19] <shadow98> sorry that users doesn't exist on this box...i was thinking i was on my machine..
[20:19] <shadow98> i got it..
[20:19] <ignacio> what's the best way to shrink my root partition and enlarge my home partition?
[20:19] <Ljorring> Slart: thanks, I will try
[20:19] <tones> shadow98: ok
[20:19] <shadow98> thanks for the help
[20:19] <tones> ignacio: gparted
[20:19] <tones> shadow98: no prob :0
[20:19] <tones> :)
[20:20] <jdu> ignacio, prabably with gparted.  Backup first
[20:20] <sacarlson> ﻿LordQuackstar:  maybe mount raw image http://www.learnlinux.co.cc/mounting-a-raw-image-as-partition/
[20:20] <Aceback> got connectivity problem with 9.04 :(
[20:20] <jdu> ignacio, you can download the gparted livecd and use it.
[20:20] <sheldon> does anyone know that this means...   0012:err:x11drv:X11DRV_GLX_MakeCurrent direct context copies rejected by OpenGL implementation, switching to signals
[20:20] <tones> ignacio: sorry, jdu is right, use the gparted livecd
[20:21] <LordQuackstar> sacarlson: but won't that mount the whole hard drive instead of a partion?
[20:21] <sheldon> this is a message I get in the log file for Cedega when I try to run Unreal Tournament III
[20:21] <ignacio> ubuntu live cds have gparted, right?
[20:21] <sacarlson> ﻿LordQuackstar:  That's the only way I know
[20:22] <jdu> ignacio, yes, the newer ones.
[20:22] <ignacio> the thing is, my root partition is before the home partition
[20:22] <tones> ignacio: yes
[20:22] <ignacio> so I'd have to move it and resize it
[20:22] <ubuntu> Hello
[20:22] <ubuntu> Does default installed Ubuntu have compiz?
[20:22] <tones> ignacio: as long as you have space you can even copy with gparted
[20:22] <ikonia> ubuntu: yes
[20:22] <ikonia> ubuntu: 7.10 and later, has compiz-fusion installed by default
[20:22] <kora-chan> heya i'm using ubuntu jaunty since a few days and wanted to reactivate my old screenlets. when i try to load a screenlet it doesnt show up and the following python errors are shown on the console http://paste.ubuntu.com/169020/. any1 got an idea?
[20:22] <jdu> ignacio, I have found though that the ubuntu livecd can use too much resources to be useful for things like gparted on some computers.
[20:22] <ubuntu> ikonia: thank You
[20:22] <nmvictor> ubuntu:hello,im running something that shares your Nick
[20:23] <cou> I'm searching for a tool that replaces textshorts (like typing pls [TAB] and it replaces it with please)
[20:23] <Pupeno> Hello.
[20:23] <giacomo_> !list
[20:23] <ignacio> I could make less of a mess and just make a new partition for large files
[20:24] <lzantal> what do you use for mysql management beside phpmyadmin
[20:24] <muse> "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Invalid parameter." ... I get this error when I try share a folder using the right-click menu item "Sharing Options." Any ideas for fixing it?
[20:24] <Pupeno> I have a 230GB disk with 175GB for Windows. The rest I'm installing Ubuntu 9.04. Which option should I choose on "Prepare disk space".
[20:24] <ikonia> lzantal: the mysql command shell is fine, but there is also mysql-admin
[20:24] <QueenInfamous> guys
[20:24] <ikonia> Pupeno: custom/manual
[20:24] <QueenInfamous> How can I restore my resolution?
[20:24] <daworm84> does anyone know kaffeine? I try to start to use DVB television but there are no options to use dvbt. Is sudo apt-get install kaffeine not enough?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> !resolution |  QueenInfamous
[20:25] <lzantal> ikonia: is mysql-admin a gui tool? I will check it in the repos
[20:25] <ubuntu> ikonia: Ubuntus liveCD doesnt offers compiz, after the install it will be installed autimaticly, right?
[20:25] <ikonia> lzantal: it is
[20:25] <ikonia> ubuntu: correct
[20:25] <Pupeno> ikonia: I was expecting Ubuntu to decide on how much virtual ram and all that with something like "use thelargest continuous free space".
[20:25] <ubuntu> :)
[20:25] <Pupeno> So, how much virtual ram should I put?
[20:25] <shadow98> anybody know how to show line numbers in vi
[20:25] <ikonia> Pupeno: you can do that if you want to use the auto setup
[20:25] <ikonia> Pupeno: by virtual ram, do you mean swap space ?
[20:25] <greagasef> how do I open password-protected rar archives with Ark?
[20:26] <sebsebseb> Pupeno: it does the swap space for you if you use  guided install
[20:26] <ikonia> greagasef: it should prompt you for a password when you open it
[20:26] <Pupeno> ikanobori: I want to do that, but it doesn't seem to wokr.
[20:26] <daworm84> does anyone know another good tool for use DVB Television?
[20:26] <nmvictor> I try loading phpmyadmin on my browser and my browser opens a download file dialogue box,asking what i should do to the PHTML file.what could the problem be?
[20:26] <greagasef> ikonia: it doesn't, it simply throws an error...
[20:26] <ikonia> nmvictor: sounds like your webserver is not running php properly
[20:26] <ikonia> greagasef: what error
[20:26] <ikanobori> hi
[20:26] <ubuntu> greagasef: rar/unrar will do it in konsole
[20:26] <ikanobori> someone highlighted me?
[20:27] <ikonia> ikanobori: someone was talking to me and made a typo
[20:27] <ikanobori> :(
[20:27] <lzantal> nmvictor: I got the same problem. I tryed everything google came up with.
[20:27] <greagasef> ikonia: "an error occurred while trying to open the archive"
[20:27] <ikonia> greagasef: sounds like it thinks the archive is corrupted
[20:27] <greagasef> ubuntu: I know, no problem, but I'd like a GUI for that
[20:27] <nmvictor> ikonia:so whats the fix,ive thought of that too,as posibilty
[20:27] <greagasef> ikonia: It's not. unrar form the console works perfectly.
[20:28] <ikonia> greagasef: sounds like it thinks it is, log a bug on launchpad for it
[20:29] <QueenInfamous> whoever told me about the resolution thingy
[20:29] <QueenInfamous> it didn't work
[20:29] <QueenInfamous> my pc just kinda restarted
[20:30] <spikes> anyone want to help out a poor noob with some mic problems?
[20:30] <tones> spikes: im up for it :)
[20:30] <meoblast> i need some help
[20:30] <meoblast> i have a hitachi DVD GD-8000 and it own't play a DVD nor ejject it
[20:30] <h00k> Does anyone know of some FOSS recovery software that will work on ext2? Its a 500gb external and I don't have 500gb to image it.
[20:30] <nmvictor> lzantal:do you have apache2-mpm-prefork or worker installed?coz in my case,apt-get force me into removing them to restore some broken dependencies.Apache still rns smoothly though,coz i have libapache-mod-php5 and other php5 packages,though i still believe somethins missing
[20:31] <blastur1> since upgrading to jackalope, when i start apps like VLC and movie player, they all launch on my primary screen, when I start the "menu item" from my secondary screen (LCD TV) .. and then I cant move them to my LCD!
[20:31] <blastur1> anyone know how to open a program on a specific screen?
[20:31] <mneptok> h00k: fsck.ext2
[20:31] <hassan_> how can i active root plz
[20:31] <spikes> first i need to remember how to send tells
[20:31] <mneptok> hassan_: you don;t in Ubuntu. use sudo
[20:31] <Slart> !root | hassan_
[20:31] <tones> blastur1: jaunty is still beta.. quite unstable
[20:31] <Slart> !sudo | hassan_
[20:31] <chaorain> I just installed mythbuntu onto ubuntu 9.04 and I still have the task bars and I don't have the "cancel", "next", "previous" buttons in set up. Help?
[20:31] <DrHalan> does anyone know how to play windows media 9 files on ubuntu?
[20:31] <deany> anyone good on rsync?  why does it go through each file like its either checking or copying it even tho nothing has changed?  it took an hour to copy 12gig of music to my usb stick (its slow) and its gonna take the same time just to do nothing..
[20:31] <meoblast> i have a hitachi DVD GD-8000 and it own't play a DVD nor ejject it
[20:32] <blastur1> tones: really? the upgrade manager thingie advised me to upgrade
[20:32] <sebsebseb> DrHalan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras should take care of that
[20:32] <Khelben> !gksu
[20:32] <lzantal> nmvictor: I am checking it right now. Thank you. Did you get it fixed?
[20:32] <mneptok> deany: rsync does not have such issues when dealing with real filesystems. FAT32 is not a real filesystem.
[20:32] <tones> blastur1: same for me. now i cant print anything :(
[20:32] <Slart> tones, blastur1: Jaunty is not in beta any more
[20:32] <mzz> deany: it will check, but it shouldn't copy if the timestamps match
[20:32] <deany> its ext2
[20:32] <tones> Slart: is it not? my bad
[20:32] <deany> mzz, its checking is takin as long as copying.
[20:32] <Andy1> Hi there.  I've got an apt-get question.
[20:32] <Slart> !jaunty | tones
[20:32] <mzz> deany: are you sure it's actually copying, not just comparing timestamps?
[20:32] <ignacio> bil/leave
[20:32] <Slart> !ask | Andy1
[20:32] <mneptok> deany: what rsync options did you use?
[20:33] <deany> mzz, thats my issue, whatever its doin, its takin forever, again.
[20:33] <Andy1> Got it!
[20:33] <deany> -rtlDv
[20:33] <spikes> tones: well i had feed back from my mic to my speakers but nothing came out on Team Speak, Skype or anything else.
[20:33] <deany> ive tried -av too
[20:33] <blastur1> ah.. that sucks tones :( i wish i knew how to move an app to my 2nd screen .. cause otherwise i cant view anything on my LCD :(
[20:33] <lzantal> nmvictor: I do have that package but Synaptic shows libapache2-mod-php5filter not installed.
[20:33] <nmvictor> Slart:I got root pasword perfectly in my ubuntu,except ubottu wont hear of it.but if you wanna dare,just let me know
[20:33] <mzz> deany: roughly how many files are we talking about and how slow are both the source and dest filesystem?
[20:33] <deany> i might as well just manually copy the folders/files myself.. its quicker
[20:33] <meoblast> i have a hitachi DVD GD-8000 and it own't play a DVD nor ejject it... can anyone help? my dad's pretty ticked at me because i put Ubuntu on this machine and i can't get it all working
[20:33] <Slart> !supportroot | nmvictor
[20:34] <h00k> mneptok: yeah, I've tried that, it has bad blocks apparently, that freezes up
[20:34] <Andy1> I installed a program, gizmod, using apt-get install gizmod, then deleted the files from the filesystem.  Now when I do an apt-get install gizmod it only creates the driectories and there are no files in them.  I've tried apt-get remove gizmod, apt-get clean, stuff like that
[20:34] <deany> 1300 files.. 12gig
[20:34] <tones> blastur1: never used two screens so cant help
[20:34] <mneptok> deany: just use -avh
[20:34] <chaorain> I just installed mythbuntu onto ubuntu 9.04 and and when I load MythTV I still have the task bars and I don't have the "cancel", "next", "previous" buttons in set up. Help?
[20:34] <Slart> nmvictor: it's not hard to enable it.. but it's just not supported nor recommended
[20:34] <tones> spikes: that means the mike is working. try adding a mike boost, maybe its just silent
[20:34] <mzz> deany: 1300 files shouldn't take that long, unless either the source or dest filesystem has some problem causing the timestamp comparisons to fail. If you let it run a second time how many bytes does it actually transfer (there should at least be a summary at the end, depending on switches also updates as it runs)?
[20:34] <tsrk> Hey guys and gals, I'm having a problem that makes me feel really stupid, and I'm probably just missing something. I have a Lenovo S10 Netbook, and when I plug it into a monitor, the monitor shows the same resolution as the netbook screen (which is not very high). How can I make the monitor show full resolution?
[20:35] <deany> mneptok, how would enabling human readable output help
[20:35] <QueenInfamous> I use xChat,how can I make it so that I can see the people who are in the channel?
[20:35] <deany> my destination is slow... i know that, i expect to copy them initially slowly.. I dont however expect it to copy nothing at all in the same time
[20:35] <mneptok> deany: how does it hurt?
[20:35] <DrHalan> sebsebseb: i already have that? maybe its because i run 64bit? other restricted things work
[20:35] <deany> they are on my main drive.. ext4 formatted
[20:35] <mzz> deany: see --modify-window in the rsync manual
[20:36] <guntbert> QueenInfamous: <ctrl>f7
[20:36] <deany> mneptok, it doesnt solve my problem,
[20:36] <Slart> tsrk: I'm not sure if you can run the screens cloned at different resolutions.. try to set the external monitor as the "primary" monitor.. it will mess up the display on the laptop but I'm guessing it's the external one that is important, no?
[20:36] <mzz> deany: that's *if* it's actually copying a second time.
[20:36] <sebsebseb> DrHalan: mplayer should be able to play it, and other players
[20:36] <nmvictor> Slart:i know,i just thought i ubottu talked of you geussing,so ifigured you needed a fix.anyway,its ok
[20:36] <h00k> Does anyone know of some FOSS recovery software that will work on ext2? Its a 500gb external and I don't have 500gb to image it, fsck freezes up when I try it, bad blocks.
[20:36] <mneptok> deany: rsync works perfectly for me. it does not for you. you asked for help. feel free to ignore it.
[20:36] <deany> its going though each file, like its checking it... i thought it`d be lightning fast copying 0 new files and 0 modified files
[20:36] <the1corrupted> Hello, all.  I'm having issues with PHP5 on my computer..  I have apache2 and mysql both installed and working.
[20:36] <lzantal> Thank you all. mysql-admin Looks really good
[20:36] <Slart> nmvictor: nah.. it was for someone who asked about it.. but thanks anyway
[20:36] <DrHalan> sebsebseb: it also tells me "cant find audio codec" but video works fine. Its hd...
[20:37] <Slart> h00k: tried photorec? or testdisk?
[20:37] <chaorain> Has any one had problems with ext4 stability?
[20:37] <w00tz> hi, i googled by dynex dx-busb wireless adapter card and i realize that it has terrible support by dynex on linux. i do know that it is a broadcom driver though, which was recently released here: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php . all the tutorials i am reading are referencing something called 'wl' and 'ssb' which don't mean anythign for me. i compiled the driver that broadcom has on their website, but, i'm not sure how 
[20:37] <kora-chan> tsrk: youcould try setting the resolution manually with xrandr or you can look in the the menu of gnome for screenresollution to change them there. i guess for gnome to recognize the native resolution of your screen, the screen has already to be plugged in when x starts
[20:37] <Linuz2009> why my computer started to slow when I check for badblocks
[20:37] <deany> mzz, i dont know if its copying it all over again, even its its not, which it shouldnt be cuz nothing is new/changed, its goin though them all , slowly.
[20:37] <h00k> Slart: Yeah, they pull files with arbitrary names, I'd like to see if I can keep my directory structure
[20:37] <nathan_> i need some help... i have an imac g3 and i just recently installed ubuntu 8.04 on it. it booots up fine but when it starts to take me to the desktop the screen goes blank... some kind of display issue... now i dont know if any of u know but imacs use a different boot loader its called yaboot and i dont know how configure the display using yaboot so if someone could please help me.. that be awesome.
[20:37] <tsrk> Slart, actually, what would be best is to have them set up as side-by-side screens with different resolutions, because I'm going to be doing presentations with a projector, so I still need to be able to use the laptop screen. I got them set up as side-by-side, but the maximum resolution for the monitor was the same as the max resolution for the netbook.
[20:37] <Linuz2009> I've checked badblocks in the command line but it does nothing
[20:37] <mzz> deany: again, *check* if it is actually copying (if you're not familiar with what the output should look like the easiest way is to wait for the summary, or rerun it twice on a much smaller set of data so you can get at the summary faster)
[20:38] <Linuz2009> I check badblocks on dev/sda1
[20:38] <mzz> deany: I suspect the resolution of timestamps between the two filesystems is different and you need -
[20:38] <mzz> err
[20:38] <chaorain> Has any one had problems with ext4 stability?
[20:38] <Slart> tsrk: that's probably because it still thinks of the laptop screen as the primary screen.. if you put the external monitor as the primary screen you'll be limited by that resolution.. which might be more or less suitable for the laptop screen
[20:38] <mzz> deany: I suspect the resolution of timestamps between the two filesystems is different and you need --modify-window, but *check* if it's actually transferring everything again or if it's slow for some other reason
[20:38] <QueenInfamous> Why is every text at my irc the same colour and type?
[20:38] <QueenInfamous> it's kinda hard to see who is writting
[20:38] <QueenInfamous> :s
[20:39] <Slart> tsrk: I haven't actually played around with this a lot.. but I think that's the only way to have the same image on both screens
[20:39] <tsrk> Slart, that resolution wouldn't work for the laptop
[20:39] <tsrk> Slart, side-by-side is better though
[20:39] <Slart> tsrk: that might work with both screens using their own resolution
[20:39] <Ljorring> I have a sound issue with my Ubuntu 8.04 installation on a x61s laptop. I have tried installing/uninstalling pulseaudio a few times. My status now is, that I have lost track of what's actually installed of drivers and patches. Can someone help?
[20:40] <nathan_> i need some help... i have an imac g3 and i just recently installed ubuntu 8.04 on it. it booots up fine but when it starts to take me to the desktop the screen goes blank... some kind of display issue... now i dont know if any of u know but imacs use a different boot loader its called yaboot and i dont know how configure the display using yaboot so if someone could please help me.. that be awesome.
[20:40] <QueenInfamous> Why is every text at my irc the same colour and type? and how to edit it? :/
[20:40] <chaorain> !ext4
[20:40] <mzz> QueenInfamous: depends completely on the client
[20:40] <deany> it shouldnt copy again, they havent changed in the last 30 seconds..
[20:40] <nmvictor> QueenInfamous:You can change that,or find another client.Xchat is one in a million,though im not saying it sucks,i use it sometimes
[20:40] <Slart> QueenInfamous: because of the settings.. probably
[20:40] <QueenInfamous> well
[20:40] <lukavia> i have alsa problems in 9.04, dont update properly, help please
[20:40] <QueenInfamous> erm..
[20:40] <Slart> QueenInfamous: you really need to supply more details if you want any useful help.. for all we know you could be using a monchrome monitor..
[20:40] <Meskitela> hey people
[20:40] <tsrk> Slart, it still didn't show the full monitor resolution though
[20:41] <QueenInfamous> I see
[20:41] <Linuz2009> how can I check badblocks on the commandline
[20:41] <QueenInfamous> well people tell me ctrl+f7 but it's not workin
[20:41] <QueenInfamous> :/
[20:41] <w00tz> this is a dealbreaker for me, ugh, i might have to go out and purchase a new wireless adapter
[20:41] <deany> if i test this from folder to another folder on same internal drive, its lightning fast.
[20:41] <Slart> tsrk: not really sure how to fix that.. it works on my laptop but I haven't really done anythnig to it.. it just worked out of the box
[20:41] <guntbert> QueenInfamous: could it be you are running xchat-gnome?
[20:41] <deany> i know usb sticks are slow, but it shouldnt take as long as copying the whole folder to start with.
[20:41] <sacarlson> ﻿w00tz: what it didn't compile?
[20:42] <QueenInfamous> YEA
[20:42] <QueenInfamous> It's Xchat gnome!
[20:42] <tsrk> Slart, oh, maybe it's a problem with drivers then
[20:42] <Meskitela> need help
[20:42] <Slart> Meskitela: what is your problem?
[20:42] <deany> mzz, thanks dude, the modify window option=1 has done the trick......
[20:42] <QueenInfamous> gutbert ,what should I do? :/
[20:42] <guntbert> QueenInfamous: change to xchat!
[20:42] <spendel> Yuri20
[20:42] <QueenInfamous> alrighty
[20:43] <nathan_> i need some help... i have an imac g3 and i just recently installed ubuntu 8.04 on it. it booots up fine but when it starts to take me to the desktop the screen goes blank... some kind of display issue... now i dont know if any of u know but imacs use a different boot loader its called yaboot and i dont know how configure the display using yaboot so if someone could please help me.. that be awesome.
[20:43] <deany> mzz, it shouldnt need it tho, really.. oh well
[20:43] <Meskitela> [Slart]: I can not write the password on the ubuntu server 8.04
[20:43] <camilla> where can i find repositories for vmware?
[20:43] <Ciros> ew xchat gnome.
[20:43] <Linuz2009> did anyone heard my problem?
[20:43] <guntbert> !tab | QueenInfamous
[20:43] <Gho> Hello, could anyone assist me with getting a bluetooth modem working?  I can pair with the device, but that's as far as I can get.
[20:43] <Slart> has anyone tried copying a large file to an usb stick? anything larger than about 500MB and the transfer speed just dies
[20:43] <spendel> What about are you talking ?
[20:43] <Slart> Meskitela: you've forgotten your password?
[20:43] <QueenInfamous> gutbert
[20:43] <rogue780> is the a command to find the uptime of a ubuntu box?
[20:43] <QueenInfamous> can I msg you privately?
[20:43] <spendel> Anybody know Polish ?
[20:43] <Slart> rogue780: uptime
[20:43] <Gho> rogue780: uptime :)
[20:43] <user__> spendel: #ubuntu-pl
[20:44]  * rogue780 facepalm
[20:44] <guntbert> QueenInfamous: ok
[20:44] <tones> slart: i need to go now, over to you :)
[20:44] <Slart> rogue780: yes.. go sit in the corner ;)
[20:44] <Slart> tones: bye
[20:44] <spendel> Becous I am from Poland
[20:44] <guntbert> !pl | spendel
[20:44] <Slart> spendel: type /join #ubuntu-pl
[20:44] <w00tz> sacarlson: it compield fine
[20:44] <rogue780> nice...49 days, 23 hrs
[20:44] <spikes> Problem: mic doesnt work with skype or any other probram but i get feedback any one got ideas?
[20:44] <w00tz> sacarlson: i have no idea how to enable the device though
[20:45] <spendel> Thank you Slart
[20:45] <wolter> hi
[20:45] <nmvictor> spendel:if no one here,throw it over to google.it knows everthing about abything and anything about nothing
[20:45] <w00tz> when i ran hardware devices, it didnt' even see that it's plugged in
[20:45] <sdlwof> when i plug in my phone i get this usb-storage: probe of 1-2:1.0 failed with error -5
[20:45] <bercik> ikonia: hmm, wheres the compiz You told me i will get after install? :)
[20:46] <camilla> does anyone know how to get vmware?
[20:46] <linduxed> i want to install awesome 3.2.2 on jaunty (repos have 2.x) and im looking at the following page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/awesome/+bug/253985
[20:46] <linduxed> I've tried doing the dget -u --build commands, but i get folders and tarballs, never packages
[20:46] <wolter> i am having a problem with the volume control in my computer.. when the volume meter is half side, the sound is null. Before the half of the meter the volume is always--or seems to be--0%.
[20:46] <nathan_> i need some help... i have an imac g3 and i just recently installed ubuntu 8.04 on it. it booots up fine but when it starts to take me to the desktop the screen goes blank... some kind of display issue... now i dont know if any of u know but imacs use a different boot loader its called yaboot and i dont know how configure the display using yaboot so if someone could please help me.. that be awesome.
[20:46] <ikonia> bercik: system->administration->desktop effects
[20:46] <ikonia> !vmware > camilla
[20:46] <bc> rogue780: let's hope you aren't using kernel 2.6.11.5
[20:46] <eleite> mzz: i finally got that log onto pastebin :D success!
[20:46] <rogue780> bc, ?
[20:46] <cdavis> camilla: I suggest using virtual box. It is easier to install with Ubuntu
[20:46] <camilla> thanks!
[20:47] <camilla> i already have virtualbox
[20:47] <bc> rogue780: when I was running that kernel, my machine would lock up predicably at 49 days X hours, where X hours
[20:47] <camilla> but i vant get it to work with usb
[20:47] <cdavis> camilla: Why do you need vmware? Is there a specific need?
[20:47] <rogue780> bc, 2.6.27-11-server
[20:47] <bc> rogue780: predictably even
[20:47] <camilla> cdavis: yes, need to plug in a usb
[20:47] <bercik> ikonia: there is not such thing..
[20:48] <cdavis> camilla: Download virtualbox from their website. The OSE version available by default with Ubuntu doesn't support USB. The one you can download directly from Virtualbox does.
[20:48]  * bc has apparently lost all ability to coordinate his mind, hands, and keyboard today
[20:48] <lukavia> i have alsa problems in 9.04, dont update properly, help please
[20:48] <ikonia> bercik: system -> administration -> advanced desktop effects, look for something worded similar to that
[20:49] <Slart> !pt
[20:49] <camilla> great, thanks
[20:49] <yunle96> HELP
[20:50] <ikonia> yunle96: whats the problem ?
[20:50] <Slart> ikonia: the compizconfig-settings manager is in system, preferences.. not administration
[20:50] <Slart> ikonia: if that is what you're looking for
[20:50] <ikonia> Slart: ahhh
[20:50] <ikonia> Slart: thank you
[20:51] <yunle96> Sorry,want to enter /help
[20:51] <ikonia> bercik: did you read slart's comment
[20:51] <spikes> Problem: mic doesnt work with skype or any other probram but i get feedback any one got ideas?
[20:51] <ikonia> yunle96: you are in ubuntu support channel, for discussion/support of te ubuntu linux distribution
[20:51] <spikes> program*
[20:51] <QueenInfamous> ggggg
[20:51] <Gho> Could anyone assist me with getting a bluetooth modem working?  I can pair with the device, but that's as far as I can get.  If I use hcitool to establish a connection, it drops after ~1sec. I get a conenction refused message if I try to connect with pand.
[20:51] <Slart> spikes: same thing for me.. I can't use pulseaudio for mic input.. I have to use alsa for input
[20:52] <bercik> ikonia: Slart yes thank You
[20:52] <bercik> but its funny but there is nothing like this
[20:52] <hhp2k1> Hey everyone, quick question.  I'm trying to set up dual-monitor in Ubuntu 9.04 on an older PC; an Nvidia Geforce3 AGP graphics card on primary, and an 8MB ATI graphics card on PCI.  Can these two coexist in ubuntu and work together, or no?
[20:52] <Slart> !ccsm
[20:53] <Slart> bercik: did you install the compizconfig-settings-manager?
[20:53] <nathan_> hey does anyone know how i can force my cd burner to burn at 4x because everytime i set it to 4x it still ends up burning it at like 15x and it doesnt matter what program i use it keeps burning them to fast.
[20:53] <bercik> Slart: no, ikonia told me that it will be installed by default
[20:53] <Slart> bercik: I'm not sure if the settings manager is.. compiz is installed by default though
[20:53] <bercik> what package to download?
[20:54] <Slart> bercik: just try running "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" in a terminal
[20:54] <linduxed> i want to install awesome 3.2.2 on jaunty (repos have 2.x) and im looking at the following page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/awesome/+bug/253985
[20:54] <linduxed> I've tried doing the dget -u --build commands, but i get folders and tarballs, never packages
[20:55] <Slart> bercik: I think by default you can only chose between, no effects at all (ie compiz disabled), some effects or "enable everything, with extra fireworks.. and little frogs.. and lightning.. etc"
[20:55] <Slart> bercik: if you install the settings manager you can be a little more detailed about how you want it to work
[20:55] <spacy> hi
[20:56] <Linuz2009> slow computer frozen computer need a solution.
[20:56] <bercik> Slart: so how do i enable all the fireworks frogs and stuff? :)
[20:56] <Slart> bercik: in system, preferences, appearance.. in the last tab..
[20:56] <bercik> thanks
[20:56] <nathan_> hey does anyone know how i can force my cd burner to burn at 4x because everytime i set it to 4x it still ends up burning it at like 15x and it doesnt matter what program i use it keeps burning them to fast.
[20:56] <spacy> some prob's here. jaunty and nvram-wakeup.if i start nvram-wakeup i have a buffer overflow. has someone a idee
[20:56] <Slart> bercik: it's called Visual Effects
[20:57] <spacy> http://de.pastebin.ca/1418528
[20:57] <realmatt> I've installed grub2 and don't know how to go about configuring it.  I was told that I might be able to use it to boot from my eSATA drive even though the bios didn't have a setting for it.  Can someone point me in the right direction.  I am having a hard time finding any documentation about it.
[20:57] <bercik> Slart: works :)
[20:57] <spacy> that is an pastbin were the buffer overflow is
[20:57] <Laurenceb> hi, I'm trying to follow these instructions - http://openhardware.net/Embedded_ARM/OpenOCD_JTAG/
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[20:57] <FloodBot3> Rodge09: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <Slart> bercik: greak
[20:58] <h00k> !op | Rodge09
[20:58] <hassan_> wathn use sudo ask me for password
[20:58] <Laurenceb> what should etc/ld.so.conf look like?
[20:58] <hhp2k1> Swift pwnage. =D
[20:58] <h00k> thank you.
[20:58] <Slart> bercik: in the settings manager you can enable some more stuff if you want it.. I really think it should be installed by default.. I don't really understand why it isn't
[20:58] <Laurenceb> "edited /etc/ld.so.conf and added the line /usr/local/lib" I dont think that is working
[20:59] <Linuz2009> Computer keep freezing
[20:59] <bercik> Slart: and do You know the managers package name?
[20:59] <loren> I found this with rkhunter is this something I should deleteChecking /dev for suspicious file types         [ Warning ]
[20:59] <loren> [15:37:58] Warning: Suspicious file types found in /dev:
[20:59] <loren> [15:37:58]          /dev/shm/pulse-shm-1640288063: data
[20:59] <Dandre> Hello,
[20:59] <Slart> bercik: it's the one I told you about.. compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:59] <Slart> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:59] <bercik> Slart: thanks again and sorry
[20:59] <hhp2k1> Hey everyone, quick question.  I'm trying to set up dual-monitor in Ubuntu 9.04 on an older PC; an Nvidia Geforce3 AGP graphics card on primary, and an 8MB ATI graphics card on PCI.  Can these two coexist in ubuntu and work together, or no?
[20:59] <Linuz2009> computer aren't responding
[21:00] <Slart> bercik: no worries
[21:00] <bercik> :)
[21:00] <Flannel> Laurenceb: Do you have serial, parallel, or USB JTAG cable?
[21:00] <Linuz2009> slow computer with frequent gray windows
[21:00] <Dandre> since I have upgraded to 9.04 from my previous 8.10, when I switch off my computer, the system beep bells. How can I stop this?
[21:00] <Laurenceb> USB
[21:00] <_TheAncientGoat> Anyone here with Linux Wacom experience?
[21:00] <nathan_> hey does anyone know how i can force my cd burner to burn at 4x because everytime i set it to 4x it still ends up burning it at like 15x and it doesnt matter what program i use it keeps burning them to fast.
[21:00] <Laurenceb> olimex arm-usb-ocd
[21:00] <lfaraone> How can I delete my rhythmbox library index and tell it to look again?
[21:01] <Linuz2009> is there a solution for this prob?
[21:01] <leOn> hey fellas
[21:01] <loren> I found this with rkhunter should I delete this file?Checking /dev for suspicious file types         [ Warning ]
[21:01] <loren> [15:37:58] Warning: Suspicious file types found in /dev:
[21:01] <loren> [15:37:58]          /dev/shm/pulse-shm-1640288063: data
[21:01] <c0ntract0r> As far as audio eq, what would one use for amarok?
[21:01] <h00k> lfaraone: you can highlight all the music in your library and remove it
[21:01] <QueenInfamous> werqew
[21:01] <mabus> nathan_: does your hardware support that mode?
[21:01] <h00k> lfaraone: also,you can have it monitor your music folder real-time with a checkbox
[21:01] <nathan_> well as far as i know it does
[21:01] <lfaraone> h00k: ah, kk.
[21:02] <mzz> loren: rkhunter is confused
[21:02] <nathan_> its suppose to be able to burn at all different speeds
[21:02] <Linuz2009> sudden freezes
[21:02] <leOn> i'm trying out kvm and virt-manager .. i was having trouble with keyboard layout, but i managed to change the -k parameter for kvm .. but there's still a problem. dead keys don't work .. any ideas?
[21:02] <cambazz> hello. what is the meta package name for simple gcc development environment
[21:02] <bc> does anyone know which line from `infocmp` removes the stupid flashing screen in a remote terminal? xset isn't available
[21:02] <lfaraone> h00k: know of a way to de-duplicate my library? :)
[21:02] <Linuz2009> need a answer
[21:02] <JmZ> hey
[21:02] <JmZ> i need some graphics help
[21:02] <loren> so I should keep it?
[21:02] <h00k> lfaraone: not off the top of my head
[21:02] <th0r> cambazz, build-essential
[21:02] <Linuz2009> does anyone had a answer for this prob.
[21:02] <lfaraone> h00k: thanks anyway.
[21:02] <spikes> Jmz you have a Nvidia card?
[21:02] <JmZ> i installed the nvidia driver (official one) & then updated the kernel now my graphics drivers wont load
[21:02] <JmZ> yes
[21:02] <mzz> loren: pretty sure you should leave that alone, assuming you're using pulseaudio
[21:02] <guntbert> !enter | Linuz2009
[21:02] <cambazz> th0r: thank you
[21:02] <JmZ> i read loads of stickies and such they havent helped me
[21:03] <JmZ> i tried reinstalling nvidia new driver & even removing the nvidia files
[21:03] <loren> pulseaudio not even sure what that is?
[21:03] <Flannel> Laurenceb: Have you tried this?  It appears to claim that this other drive works with a little modification: http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?p=26273&sid=c596006c27d6ace1c781e89f404f8338
[21:03] <JmZ> right now im in a crappy res on low graphics mode
[21:03] <hassan_> why the ubuntu ask password When i use (sudo)
[21:03] <JmZ> i tried everything i think of
[21:03] <Laurenceb> ok, thanks for the pointer, I'll try it
[21:03] <Linuz2009> guntbert: my computer kept giving me gray windows and become unresponsive for 3-5 seconds.
[21:03] <Ljorring> can someone recommend an editor with good allaround syntax highlighting?
[21:03] <JmZ> nothing shows in hardware drivers either
[21:03] <Ljorring> for gnome/ubuntu
[21:03] <h00k> Ljorring: vim
[21:04] <Flannel> hassan_: Because it's supposed to.  You use sudo to do administrative tasks, you don't want just anyone to be able to walk up and do things like that.
[21:04] <Ljorring> h00k: ty
[21:04] <Ljorring> h00k: will try
[21:04] <user1> Has anyone else experienced Totem breaking the main volume control?
[21:04] <Gho> Ljorring: vim and nano both have robust syntax highlighting
[21:04] <Dandre> anyone can help me?
[21:04] <Dandre> since I have upgraded to 9.04 from my previous 8.10, when I switch off my computer, the system beep bells. How can I stop this?
[21:04] <leOn> how can i get dead-keys to work on kvm?
[21:04] <nathan_> hey does anyone know how i can force my cd burner to burn at 4x because everytime i set it to 4x it still ends up burning it at like 15x and it doesnt matter what program i use it keeps burning them to fast.
[21:04] <Linuz2009> guntbert: programs are turning gray everytime and I click something
[21:04] <h00k> Ljorring: its has quite a learning curve, but its very powerful
[21:04] <loren> what is pulseaudio?
[21:04] <spikes> hmm... i dont think i can help i got a gtx 285 and i got it working, i just installed the video driver, went to display and configured it. saving the config file was the hardest thing.
[21:04] <Flannel> Ljorring: Try SciTE if you're looking for a GUI editor.
[21:04] <JmZ> can nobody help me
[21:04] <guntbert> Linuz2009: sorry no help from me in this regard, but put your *complete* question to the channel in one line
[21:04] <_TheAncientGoat> Man, it's been months and I still havent been able to get my wacom tablet to work :/
[21:05] <JmZ> i've spent all day and night trying to resolve this problem
[21:05] <memento_> hello, how can i disable the c4 state ??
[21:05] <hassan_> thank you
[21:05] <JmZ> and im getting no where
[21:05] <h00k> !ask | JmZ
[21:05] <carpii> Jmz, have you tried editing the refresh rate limits in xorg.conf ?
[21:05] <JmZ> i did ask the question
[21:05] <JmZ> read again ubottu
[21:05] <Ljorring> Flannel: I might be looking for something graphical
[21:05] <carpii> i had to do that for my monitor, even tho ubuntu claims it had detected it
[21:05] <Slart> loren: pulseaudio is like a mixer for alsa sound devices.. you can for example start playing sound using one soundcard (an mp3) and while it's playing you can switch it to another soundcard, perhaps connected to the stereo at your livingroom
[21:05] <JmZ> carpii no i didnt edit anything read what i said above
[21:05] <Ljorring> Flannel: I will look at it, thanks
[21:05] <wilhart> i need help installing ubuntustudio from usbstick can someone hel
[21:05] <Linuz2009> my computer kept freezing frequently and windows are turning gray.
[21:06] <JmZ> i installed the nvidia drivers and then did a "partial" (why partial) update and the kernel updated
[21:06] <JmZ> then all my graphics died
[21:06] <h00k> !enter | JmZ
[21:06] <Slart> loren: you also have separate volume controls for different applications.. ie firefox sound goes to headphones with a certain volume, vlc sound goes to speakers with another volume
[21:06] <loren> o-k I better leave the file alone thank you bye
[21:06] <JmZ> ok just try help me
[21:06] <hassan_> how can i stopted ubuntu ask password
[21:06] <Flannel> JmZ: When you install drivers that aren't in the repositories (like from the nvidia site), you will have to reinstall them every time you upgrade your kernel.
[21:06] <Gho> JmZ: When you ask one question over many many many lines, it gets broken up and hard to read as other text is interspersed throughout your question. That is why we ask you to put your complete question/problem on one line.
[21:06] <loren> I have vlc
[21:06] <Flannel> hassan_: Why do you want to?
[21:06] <carpii> we are, but dont get an attitude k
[21:06] <JmZ> yes i know flannel but i dont want them
[21:06] <JmZ> i want the original ubuntu nvidia ones i had
[21:07] <carpii> the hardware drivers manager usually lets you roll back to an earlier version
[21:07] <loren> I better just leave the file alone
[21:07] <loren> right?
[21:07] <JmZ> the hardware drivers shows nothing in it
[21:07] <user1> I've found that in Ubuntu 9.04 running Totem causes the following problem. Pressing volume keys on keyboard triggers the Growl notification but doesn't actually change the master volume. My only fix so far as to change all the file associations so that Totem never gets launched, But once it has been ran, I don't know how to reverse the change it causes.
[21:07] <JmZ> its blank
[21:07] <Flannel> JmZ: For the record (to give you an example of how you can ask better questions): You haven't said that yet.
[21:07] <Gho> JmZ: at the console, use dpkg-query -l | grep ii | grep nvidia to see which nvidia drivers you have installed, then use sudo apt-get remove <package> to remove then
[21:08] <bcurtiswx> hi all, how do I find out who the manufacturer of my DVD-rom is ?
[21:08] <hassan_> the ubuntu when i use sudo dont taek my password
[21:08] <operador_> olá pessoal
[21:08] <operador_> gostaria de uma ajuda ?
[21:08] <JmZ> Gho: i did that already and the only remaining things required hardware drivers to be removed too (dependencies)
[21:08] <th0r> bcurtiswx, hwinfo?
[21:08] <JmZ> now i reinstalled nvidia "new" driver and no luck still even after choosing it in the x conf
[21:08] <h00k> hassan_: make sure your caps-lock isn't on.  Also, note that the password doesn't actually show up for security reasons, just type it as you do to log in and press enter
[21:08] <sean2009> hi, this isn't an ubuntu question, but rather a KDE desktop one. -- How do i install programs i.e. the equivalent of add/remove in the gnome desktop.??
[21:09] <Flannel> JmZ: Your question should be something like this:  I installed the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website, and now I want to remove them and re install the ones from the repository.  I've tried X, Y, and Z, but it isn't working (or gives me these errors:).
[21:09] <c0ntract0r> Name of plugin for equalizer in amarok?
[21:09] <Gho> JmZ: try perhaps sudo dpkg-reconfuigure xserver-xorg ?
[21:10] <JmZ> Gho: i did that many times no luck
[21:10] <bcurtiswx> th0r: ty
[21:10] <epaphus> Hello, is there anyway where I can know if there is drivers for the nvidia 9400 ?
[21:10] <h00k> !nvidia | epaphus
[21:10] <spikes> anyone know anything about audo sound rappers for team speak and stuff?
[21:10] <cambazz> hello. I am on 9.04, which appearently comes with libcurl 7.18, where I need libcurl 7.19.
[21:10] <Linuz2009> hello my computer freezes too much.
[21:10] <bcurtiswx> when i insert any media into my Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A ubuntu just freezes
[21:10] <cambazz> how can I get it
[21:11] <Gho> JmZ: perhaps something more extreme: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[21:11] <bcurtiswx> are there any specific drivers I need for my Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A
[21:11] <Linuz2009> I need someone to help me if you're not too busy.
[21:11] <JmZ> Gho: is there no other less extreme way
[21:11] <JmZ> Gho: i doubt its an xserver problem
[21:11] <Linuz2009> I need general assistance for my general problem
[21:11] <hassan_> dont respond any key in keybord . am use terminal
[21:11] <jeffreyf1> Linux2009: just type your question
[21:11] <StevenTyler> Hi guys, I am upgrading Intrepid to Jaunty. Will my settings/installations/daemons be preserved? Or will they get overwritten?
[21:12] <hhp2k1> Hey everyone, quick question.  I'm trying to set up dual-monitor in Ubuntu 9.04 on an older PC; an Nvidia Geforce3 AGP graphics card on primary, and an 8MB ATI graphics card on PCI.  Can these two coexist in ubuntu and work together, or no?
[21:12] <Gho> StevenTyler: your settings should be preserved.
[21:12] <rumpel2> StevenTyler, usually no
[21:12] <StevenTyler> ok thanks
[21:12] <StevenTyler> what?
[21:12] <Flannel> StevenTyler: They will be preserved.  When the upgrade does its upgrade, it'll ask you if there are config file conflicts (and then ask what you want to do, edit, save backup, etc)
[21:12] <rumpel2> if you want secureity, make a backup (as always)
[21:12] <Flannel> StevenTyler: However, backingup /etc is never a bad thing.
[21:12] <Linuz2009> sudo badblocks /dev/sda1 doesn't work on my computer
[21:12] <Gho> StevenTyler: I'd back up just in case, but both of my upgrades worked just fine with no loss of settings/files.
[21:12] <user1> I've found that in Ubuntu 9.04 running Totem causes the following problem. Pressing volume keys on keyboard triggers the Growl notification but doesn't actually change the master volume. My only fix so far as to change all the file associations so that Totem never gets launched, But once it has been ran, I don't know how to reverse the change it causes. Has anyone else come across this problem?
[21:13] <Linuz2009> unable to check for badblocks
[21:13] <master> hi
[21:13] <Artelus> Hey
[21:13] <Artelus> how do I install Wine?
[21:13] <Artelus> Do i just type sudo apt-get install wine?
[21:13] <user1> Artelus: sudo apt-get install wine
[21:13] <Artelus> Is that outdated though?
[21:13] <SirErugor> Artelus, yes or use aptitude
[21:13] <Artelus> should I install it from their website?
[21:13] <sdcardgrub> my core duo 2 laptop does not support booting from an sd card. is there a way to configure grub to boot from the sd card like you do on an old laptop whose bios does not support booting from CD by configuring grub with a little help from smartbootmanager?
[21:13] <master> can i talk to any one
[21:13] <master> here
[21:13] <StevenTyler> yep, I am gonna backup just in case
[21:14] <user1> what's the difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[21:14] <e1luca> I don't need help, nore I have a solution. just whant to say this: Java on Ubuntu 64bit it's a joke. Same for ice plugin. Windows 98 was bugfree compare to this
[21:14] <Gho> !ask | master
[21:14] <bcurtiswx> anyone know why inserting any media into my Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A causes ubuntu to freeze and force a reboot
[21:14] <Artelus> Should I use apt-get to install wine? or should I download it from winehq
[21:14] <Artelus> which would be better for me?
[21:14] <th0r> Artelus, use apt-get or synaptic
[21:14] <AustinS> MADE IT!  Gah people ask like linux is a breeze these days.  I will say it is 10000x better then before.
[21:14] <Soul_Shadow> need help with clearing my old sun-java6-jre package its broken.. I did update clean & nothing can remove it becasue of the error
[21:14] <Gho> Artelus: I'd advise installing using apt/synaptic/aptitude
[21:14] <h00k> Artelus: if you use apt-get, when a new version hits the repository it will be automatically updated.
[21:14] <user1> Artelus: apt-get/aptitude because it's better to use the repositories for your distro
[21:14] <Soul_Shadow> I cannot use synaptic becasue of teh error
[21:14] <SirErugor> Artelus, I would just use aptitude :)
[21:14] <master> i have pb with .mid extension
[21:14] <sdcardgrub> my core duo 2 laptop does not support booting from an sd card. is there a way to configure grub to boot from the sd card (perhaps with extra software) like you do on an old laptop whose bios does not support booting from CD by configuring grub with a little help from smartbootmanager?
[21:15] <user1> I'm guessing no one has come across my Totem issue?
[21:15] <AustinS> user1, what is your problem?
[21:15] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: first- what error?  secondly: apt-get --purge remove sun-java6-jre
[21:15] <master> my .mid files dont work
[21:15] <Soul_Shadow> thats the comand I forgot thx Gho
[21:15] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: cheers! :)
[21:16] <AustinS> user1, I was having a issue with it lastnight.  I can't get embedded wmp files (asx) to stream properly.  I tried mplayer and totem and neither would work.  Finally installed the mozilla-vlc package and that made it work, but vlc sucks because it doesnt have controls to fastforward and such.
[21:16] <master> can help me
[21:16] <AustinS> can you install Adobe Air using Apt-get or synaptic?  I can't find the package.  Am I missing a repository?
[21:16] <Gho> AustinS: really?  I FF/RW in VLC frquently
[21:16] <Soul_Shadow> Gho upon removal  Igot this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  Now what?
[21:16] <guntbert> !enter | master
[21:16] <AustinS> Gho, How?  I want to drag a slider, not use ctrl+forward
[21:17] <bcurtiswx> what was gnome-volume-manager replaced by in Jaunty?
[21:17] <Linuz2009> Hi did anyone respond to my queston?
[21:17] <Gho> AustinS: fullscreen or windowed?
[21:17] <AustinS> either, doesn't show controls for me.
[21:17] <Soul_Shadow> its not installed in jaunty for volume manager
[21:17] <Linuz2009> hi did anyone noticed that i need a straight answer
[21:17] <hassan_> any one help me to remove my bassword
[21:18] <Linuz2009> hi but did I mention that I need some help
[21:18] <AustinS> gho, If I use hotkeys I found in VLC settings they work, but it seems terrible.  Am I missing a hotkey to bring up controls?
[21:18] <Soul_Shadow> does anyone know why when I apt-get-purge  I get this error? E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:18] <hassan_> password
[21:18] <dom_> hello
[21:18] <Linuz2009> hi did I say that my computer is frozen
[21:18] <guntbert> master: to quote Gho:  When you ask one question over many many many lines, it gets broken up and hard to read as other text is interspersed throughout your question. That is why we ask you to put your complete question/problem on one line.
[21:18] <bcurtiswx> so whats mounting my DVD-ROM in jaunty ?
[21:18] <Linuz2009> hi did I mention that I need help?
[21:18] <Soul_Shadow> its automatic
[21:18] <h00k> !ask | Linuz2009
[21:18] <Soul_Shadow> open your computer & on left you can see teh drives just click or double click to mount them
[21:18] <dom_> hello
[21:18] <Gho> AustinS: when fullscreen, I get a draggable 'progress bar' for a video onscreen.  When windowed, there's one in the main VLC window.
[21:19] <hhp2k1> Hey everyone, quick question.  I'm trying to set up dual-monitor in Ubuntu 9.04 on an older PC; an Nvidia Geforce3 AGP graphics card on primary, and an 8MB ATI graphics card on PCI.  Can these two coexist in ubuntu and work together, or no?
[21:19] <AustinS> Gho, Even on embedded wmp videos in Firefox?
[21:19] <bcurtiswx> Soul_Shadow: the reason I ask, is because inserting a CD or DVD into that drive.. causes ubuntu to crash
[21:19] <hassan_> any one help me to remove my password plz
[21:19] <th0r> Linuz2009, you haven't supplied any information for people to work with, not even a decent explanation of what happens. What do the logs say? What error messages to you get? When exactly does the problem occur.
[21:19] <Soul_Shadow> ooohh ok tehn you might have a cd-rom issue you try replace it?
[21:19] <dom_> comment allez vous????
[21:19] <Soul_Shadow> this sounds like a hardware issue
[21:19] <Gho> AustinS: AH, that's the part I missed.  I don't watch a lot of embedded media
[21:19] <Linuz2009> IF anyone going to answer me then the question I had to ask is my computer is frozen and I can't check my file system for bad block
[21:19] <bcurtiswx> not yet, thinking about it
[21:19] <Gho> !fr | dom_
[21:20] <h00k> !fr | dom_
[21:20] <rww> !password | hassan_
[21:20] <Soul_Shadow> ANYWAY I need help removing sun-java6-jre I get this error upon purging it: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[21:20] <morricone_> anyone know anything about QCAD
[21:20] <morricone_> ?
[21:20] <Yondering> hhp2k1, without knowing better.. my first guess would be No.  It would mean installing two X servers, and two generally don't coexist well.
[21:20] <h00k> Soul_Shadow: do you have Synaptic or the Update manager open at the same time?
[21:20] <AustinS> How can I show file sizes in terminal window using ls command?
[21:20] <Stupendoussteve> AustinS: ls -h
[21:20] <AustinS> Stupendoussteve: thanks
[21:20] <Soul_Shadow> nope ther eall closed I restarted pc befoer I tried purge
[21:20] <h00k> AustinS: type man ls in the terminal to see all of its options
[21:21] <Stupendoussteve> AustinS: ls -lh that is
[21:21] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Thank you. Installing two X Servers, is it possible though?
[21:21] <AustinS> h00k: good idea.  Need to remember that more often
[21:21] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: indeed; are thre any other indications of something going pear-shaped before that one line? Could you pastebin the output of your apt-get --purge command?
[21:21] <hhp2k1> :|
[21:21] <Soul_Shadow> ok hold on
[21:21] <h00k> AustinS: you can view the man (manual) page for commands by doing man 'command' to show all possible options and documentation
[21:22] <AustinS> I have the adobe Air bin file sitting on my desktop.  I can't just open it and I tried ./AdobeAirInstaller.bin and it says no such file or dir
[21:22] <zeroxten2> hi, i'm trying to rescue a dodgy grub setup on a laptop with an encrypted partition from a live cd. my plan was to access the encrypted volume using cryptsetup, chroot into it and run grub from there to fix it. My problem is that cryptsetup is returning "could not access the device" on a luksOpen even though luksDump looks fine. Any thoughts? many thanks.
[21:22] <dreamy> whats a good ati ? anyone ? :) .. pls..:S ?
[21:22] <Stupendoussteve> AustinS: Did you cd to Desktop first?
[21:22] <Gho> AustinS: try ~/Desktop/AdobeAirInstaller.bin
[21:22] <Yondering> hhp2k1, as far as I know, you can install as many as you want.. using more than one at a time though, I doubt it.
[21:22] <AustinS> ya, I think it was a case problem
[21:22] <AustinS> AIR had to be capitalized
[21:22] <Stupendoussteve> Tab completion is your friend :)
[21:22] <Soul_Shadow> http://pastebin.com/m4cd163bc ehre is my entier error list
[21:23] <AustinS> seriously, I love that about linux, need to get used to it.  I'm a newb, just installed two days ago
[21:23] <mib_1dc3sc33> Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me. I've embattled by Grub's error 17. I wiped my Open-Suse partitions to install Ubuntu, but now I have it installed and can't access it or Vista. My Ubuntu flash drive only takes me to the tour and I don't have a Vista boot loader. Any help would be apreciated.
[21:23] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Understood.  Thank you. :)
[21:23] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: look at lines 10-12 and obey :)
[21:24] <spikes> anyone know anything about audio sound rappers for team speak and stuff? ~asound or something of that nature
[21:24] <Yondering> hhp2k1, if you want a simple way out.. invest $100 on a low end nvidia or ati card with dual video ports.
[21:24] <Soul_Shadow> Well Gho if I could install it I would not be trying to remove it
[21:24] <Soul_Shadow> I cannot get it to install I need 2 purge teh crap before I can install it...
[21:25] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: what happens when you try apt-get --reinstall install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin ?
[21:25] <hassan_> thank you but praplam dont fixed
[21:25] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Unfortunately, the only hardware I have is ALL old, so I would need to invest about $500 in a fully new PC. :P  That's my issue right now.
[21:25] <AustinS> Does anyone know if it is possible to disable showing people entering and leaving this room using Pidgin?  I can't find anything in the settings.
[21:25] <Soul_Shadow> duno lemem rtry
[21:25] <hhp2k1> austinS: Enable the Join/Part hiding plugin, it comes by default.
[21:25] <Soul_Shadow> the problem is I cannot click ok on the Eula
[21:25] <Gho> AustinS: I believe so..  what hhp2k1 said :)
[21:25] <Soul_Shadow> so I canot finish install
[21:26] <AustinS> hhp2k1: checking it out. Awesome. Thanks
[21:26] <Yondering> hhp2k1, PCI cards are still available.. as are AGP, if you know where to look.
[21:26] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: there should be no cicking involved, you're on a commandline here :)
[21:26] <mikerunner> irc.undernet.org
[21:26] <mikerunner> whoops
[21:26] <Soul_Shadow> Gho the java gives u a blue screen EULA agreement u have to click ok
[21:27] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: let me try here and see what I get :)
[21:27] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Thankfully I'm in a pretty nice tech hub area in Toronto, so I'm going scavenger hunting next weekend =D
[21:27] <Soul_Shadow> I cannot click ook on terminal.. Hense No finish aka EROR 1
[21:27] <Soul_Shadow> kk\
[21:27] <h00k> Soul_Shadow: use tab to highlight okay
[21:27] <h00k> Soul_Shadow: and then use "Enter"
[21:27] <Gho> Soul_Shadow:  just as well as I've been meaning to install Puzzle Pirates anyhow ;)
[21:27] <Yondering> hhp2k1, suggest doing a little research on newegg before you do, should give you an idea of what's available :)
[21:28] <Soul_Shadow> I belive I tried that but I attempt again once I get there..
[21:28] <Soul_Shadow> :P
[21:28] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: indeed, that's not a GUI- tab, then enter (or space) is what you ened to do :)
[21:28] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Forgot about newegg.  *bookmarks*  You're awesome!
[21:28] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: that'll be $8.00 ;)
[21:29] <Yondering> hhp2k1, curious, what qualifies as "old"? and what are you using this box for anyway?
[21:29]  * Soul_Shadow gives gho 8 dollard in monopoly money
[21:30] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: Perfect \o/
[21:30] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Primary PC, unfortunately. :(  HP Compaq PGA370, 1.2GHz Celeron, 512MB SDRAM, USB1.1 and an nVidia Geforce3 64MB AGP video card.
[21:30] <Soul_Shadow> now the wait to download java again ....
[21:30] <zeroxten2> any thoughts anyone?
[21:30] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Makes me cringe every time I think about it.
[21:30] <Soul_Shadow> you wil not liek my thoughts there dirty & perverted :)
[21:30] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Thankfully, ubuntu runs rather well on it.
[21:30] <Yondering> hhp2k1, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814139028
[21:30] <QueenInfamous> I need help with Wine
[21:31] <QueenInfamous> i wanna emmulate warcraft 3
[21:31] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Oh, nice.  That would do it nicely.
[21:31] <QueenInfamous> ..how? o.o
[21:31] <AustinS> Adobe Air wants to install an application in "/op1" is this correct?  Where are apps normally stored?
[21:31] <Gho> hhp2k1: As long as you're not planning to play Half-Life 2 or FEAR on it, you should be fine ;)
[21:31] <Yondering> hhp2k1, ballpark, anyway.. I bet you can find something nicer if you dig.
[21:31] <mzz> hhp2k1: I'd expect doubling the ram to make a noticable difference, if you can find ram that fits
[21:31] <Soul_Shadow> Queen shoot wine & just install windows seperate from linux
[21:31] <rumpel2> QueenInfamous, google for WineHQ+Warcraft
[21:31] <guntbert> zeroxten2: sure I got thoughts :-), but I have no idea what your problem is
[21:31] <Gho> AustinS: /op1 or /opt?
[21:31] <AustinS> Gho: let me copy and paste, tiny weird font
[21:31] <hhp2k1> mzz: yeah, 2 512 or 1GB sticks would boost it significantly.  It's the USB1.1 that kills me, lol.
[21:31] <AustinS> Gho: "/opt"
[21:31] <QueenInfamous> Soul_Shadow,  i don't know how to install windows:D
[21:31] <zeroxten2> me neither...  no useful error whatsoever
[21:32] <Gho> AustinS: /opt is.. infrequently used, but it's not unheard of.
[21:32] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Well thank you for pointing me in the right direction :D
[21:32] <Soul_Shadow> LLLool
[21:32] <mzz> hhp2k1: that's fixable, I think (there are pci cards out there that add usb ports)
[21:32] <Soul_Shadow> put in disk & follow instructions lmfao
[21:32] <hhp2k1> Gho: I just want two monitors, haha.
[21:32] <AustinS> Gho: where are apps normally /bin or something?
[21:32] <AustinS> Gho: usr/bin maybe?
[21:32] <QueenInfamous> Soul_Shadow,  that's too big of a deal
[21:32] <Soul_Shadow> when u come to partition manager just make a seperate partition for ntfs
[21:32] <QueenInfamous> can't I just emulate it?
[21:32] <hhp2k1> mzz: This is true.  I might pick one of those up too ... they're rather cheap, I believe.
[21:32] <Soul_Shadow> you can use the linux cd to do that
[21:33] <mzz> hhp2k1: I'd expect them to be, but haven't needed one
[21:33] <Soul_Shadow> resize your Hd partition & leave teh other partition blank
[21:33] <hhp2k1> mzz: Expectantly :P I don't think there's a single person in here running lower-specced hardware than me
[21:33] <Soul_Shadow> Queen teh nyou shouold not be on linux
[21:33] <hhp2k1> mzz: Though I wouldn't expect to be surprised
[21:33] <guntbert> zeroxten2: I didn't want to tease you - what *was* your question?
[21:33] <Gho> AustinS: most things end up under /usr or /usr/local, some some use /opt  (optional software) as some older UNIX systems didn't have /usr/local
[21:33] <zeroxten2> heh
[21:33] <zeroxten2> hi, i'm trying to rescue a dodgy grub setup on a laptop with an encrypted partition from a live cd. my plan was to access the encrypted volume using cryptsetup, chroot into it and run grub from there to fix it. My problem is that cryptsetup is returning "could not access the device" on a luksOpen even though luksDump looks fine. Any thoughts? many thanks.
[21:33] <Gho> AustinS: it's a legacy thing
[21:33] <Soul_Shadow> Queen if you cannot handle somthing simple as installing windows U  do not belong on linux ...
[21:33] <Linuz2009> sorry I was out did any one answer my question?
[21:34] <Linuz2009> ANYONE?
[21:34] <QueenInfamous> lawl,do you hate me or something?
[21:34] <mzz> hhp2k1: my primary system isn't *that* fast by modern standards either, although faster than yours
[21:34] <LjL> Soul_Shadow: "do not belong on linux"? what the hell are you talking about?
[21:34] <hhp2k1> Linuz2009: You can't possibly expect us to answer your question if you ask it and then leave. :|
[21:34] <alina> hello can somebody say how i can write in the chat to one single person?
[21:34] <guntbert> zeroxten2: sorry, no help from me there ;-(
[21:34] <Soul_Shadow> No queen I am just honest.. you need to learn windows & how to do commands
[21:34] <zeroxten2> no worries
[21:34] <Soul_Shadow> linux is way above your ability's
[21:34] <Gho> alina: /msg Person message goes here
[21:34] <mzz> hhp2k1: (athlon xp 2600+, 1280MiB of ram, radeon 9600xt for video)
[21:35] <guntbert> !who | alina
[21:35] <Soul_Shadow> Finally I got java
[21:35] <hhp2k1> mzz: Not bad, good for everyday use ... just like this one, but this one chokes if you give it too much to do
[21:35] <w00tz> i'm looking for a wireless adapter (usb) that integrates seamlessly into ubuntu, does anyone have any suggestions?
[21:35] <kindofabuzz> no sound. Jaunty. Hapened after an X crash. suggestions?
[21:35] <Linuz2009> okay, someone was calling me so next time I'll post it when I'm leaving
[21:35] <alina> jarz: /hi are you on?
[21:35] <Soul_Shadow> Queen I would suggest using an XP cd & formatting your HD & installing Xp
[21:35] <nadan_> err how do i know if ntfs support is written into my kernal... when i mount the drive it asks me to specify filetype :-\
[21:35] <alina> thank you
[21:35] <Linuz2009> I'll repeat my question again
[21:35] <Soul_Shadow> learn how to use windows & more about your pc before u get into somthing as advanced as linux
[21:35] <unop> Linuz2009, it doesn't make sense answering a question if the person who asked it has left ... does it?
[21:35] <hhp2k1> edson: There's a town in Alberta, Canada named after you.
[21:36] <mzz> hhp2k1: upgrading the ram from 512MiB to 1280MiB really helped multitasking-wise. Running a browser with a bunch of tabs tends to eat up 200MiB or so, so there's not that much room left with 512 total.
[21:36] <Yondering> hhp2k1, look for something from a prominent hardware vendor..  couple more I'd recommend looking at..  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150107 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121260
[21:36] <Linuz2009> no. it doesn't but that person could leave a note next time
[21:36] <mzz> hhp2k1: well, not quite 200MiB, but still
[21:36] <Linuz2009> so again
[21:36] <Gho> unop: well, the channel is logged, so the questioner could read the log later to look for an answer.
[21:36] <hhp2k1> mzz: Not quite, but close. :P
[21:36] <unop> nadan_, ntfs support is provided by a loadable kernel module ..  try providing the filesystem type to mount there.
[21:37] <StevenTyler> ok guys gotta go now, computer about to be restarted by Jaunty
[21:37] <jake> anyone need computer help
[21:37] <StevenTyler> thanks and bye
[21:37] <mzz> hhp2k1: other specs don't matter as much as long as you're a bit patient and know how to use "nice" on long-running tasks
[21:37] <hhp2k1> Yondering: The first one is nice - I've got converters for DVI ports from other PC builds.
[21:37] <Linuz2009> my computer  frozen frequently and can't run bad blocks
[21:37] <alina> :/ jarz
[21:38] <mzz> nadan_: try ntfs-3g as filesystem type
[21:38] <hhp2k1> mzz: Really, I think I'm just going to invest a bit of money into a new mobo and a 512 stick of DDR (I already have one kicking around, so I'd be up to a gig)
[21:38] <pagarill> I'm having trouble connecting to my wlan router, can somebody please help me?
[21:38] <AustinS> How do I move an app to another desktop without dragging it?
[21:38] <hhp2k1> mzz: I hate the fact that I'm on SDRAM and Usb1.1 ... I feel like an old man :P
[21:38] <kindofabuzz> hhp2k1, me too
[21:38] <Gho> AustinS: alt-shift-arrow
[21:38] <Yondering> hhp2k1, personally, I'd probably flip a coin.  I've had excellent luck with XFX' nvidia products, but Asus know thier game too.
[21:38]  * hhp2k1 high-fives kindofabuzz
[21:39] <mzz> hhp2k1: yeah, upgrades get a bit hard to come by (had some fun finding a new cpu heatsink+fan for an old system recently)
[21:39] <hhp2k1> Yondering: Oh yeah, both are definitely solid
[21:39] <Linuz2009> I have no system errors
[21:39] <Linuz2009> only frozen windows
[21:39] <Gho> AustinS: correctuon- ctrl-alt-shift-arrow
[21:39] <Linuz2009> and humming sound from my computer
[21:39] <nadan_> either way it doesn't work i get "mount:unkonwn filesytem type 'ntfs'"
[21:39] <kindofabuzz> hhp2k1, 1G sdram, usb1.1, 1.5Ghz P4..but running great =)
[21:39] <Linuz2009> CPU is on average
[21:39] <AustinS> Gho:  there it goes :)
[21:40] <Gho> Linuz2009: move the PC away from, or shut down, the Tesla coil in the garage ;)
[21:40] <kindofabuzz> no sound. Jaunty. Hapened after an X crash. suggestions?
[21:40] <hhp2k1> mzz: That's always a trip, eh? Reminds me of a buddy of mine who builds computers, a big lug with a temper ... I can't remember how many mobo's hes destroyed trying to remove intel P4 heatsinks
[21:40] <hhp2k1> kindofabuzz: Better than me - 1.2GHz Celeron, 512MB SDRam :P
[21:40] <Linuz2009> Gho: what? Could you define in a simpler term?
[21:40] <Linuz2009> Gho: what is a garage in computer term?
[21:41]  * hhp2k1 is on the floor laughing : Gho
[21:41] <Soul_Shadow> I am not teasting I ma being honest please do to be abusive gunbert I am talking to her & she understand what I am saying  & YES I helped her out!
[21:41] <Linuz2009> Gho: you want me to shut down my computer but for what purpose?
[21:41] <Gho> Linuz2009: I was making a joke, sir :)  When you have time, Google 'Tesla Coil'
[21:41] <Linuz2009> Gho: my computer had this long humming sound and it mostly sound very busy.
[21:41] <Barridus> what's the best way to disable recent documents in jaunty, pls
[21:41] <jake> does anyone need computer help
[21:42] <tneyrpo> important question: what would happen if i'd type ":(){ :|:& };:" (without quotes) into a shell?
[21:42] <Barridus> i see various workarounds to do it for previous versions of ubuntu, anyone have a "best" way for jaunty?
[21:42] <Slart> does anyone know of a way to get the color of a certain pixel on the current desktop from the command line?
[21:42] <SirErugor> tneyrpo, fork bomb
[21:42] <Gho> !warning
[21:42] <Gho> tneyrpo: DO NOT run that command!
[21:42] <jussi01> !danger | tneyrpo
[21:43] <tneyrpo> erm
[21:43] <tneyrpo> i just typed it
[21:43] <SirErugor> hehe nice bot you have got there :p
[21:43] <tneyrpo> ...on a server account
[21:43] <SirErugor> haha bad luck
[21:43] <tneyrpo> ffffff...
[21:43] <nowth> !fixMyNewSuspendProblem
[21:43] <tneyrpo> does it stop sometimes?
[21:43] <Gho> tneyrpo: /me hopes that server has ulimit set up right
[21:43] <Slasher`> what does that command actually do?
[21:43] <Linuz2009> well I still don't admit that its funny
[21:43] <nowth> had to try
[21:43] <SirErugor> tneyrpo, no
[21:43] <jussi01> nowth: whats the issue?
[21:43] <tneyrpo> can't ssh in anymore
[21:43] <Slart> Slasher`: google for forkbomb
[21:43] <mzz> tneyrpo: can bring the system to a grinding halt if it doesn't have a limit on the number of processes per user
[21:43] <Gho> Slasher`: it's a recursive forking process
[21:43] <Linuz2009> so anyone is willing to answer my question
[21:44] <SirErugor> tneyrpo, it's a fork bomb.. it only stops when there are no more ram left or inodes
[21:44] <tneyrpo> does it use 100% cpu as well or anything like that?
[21:44] <mzz> tneyrpo: yep
[21:44] <SirErugor> tneyrpo, which brings the system to its knees
[21:44] <Slasher`> ahh i see, just curious, thanks Slart and Gho
[21:44] <tneyrpo> basically, is it safe to leave it running until tomorrow morning?
[21:44] <SirErugor> tneyrpo, it never stops ;)
[21:44] <tneyrpo> otherwise i'd have to drive to the university right now and reboot the machine
[21:44] <Slart> tneyrpo: it probably won't kill anything.. but the computer might be unusable
[21:45] <tneyrpo> no problem
[21:45] <mzz> tneyrpo: the cpu usage is not much of a problem though. Problem is it's exponentially spawning more processes, and they all need a bit of ram to run. So it tends to thrash to a halt swapping bazillions of processes in and out.
[21:45] <SirErugor> tneyrpo, I'd go for a ride if it was me
[21:45] <Slart> tneyrpo: it's just a useless program that tries to run itself a gazillion times
[21:45] <hhp2k1> Awesome, found a second PCI ATI card. let's see if I can get this puppy rolling.
[21:45] <tneyrpo> it's not an important server
[21:45] <Gho> tneyrpo: or just reboot gracefully while you still can
[21:45] <nowth> jussi01, I *can* resume from Suspend-to-RAM, but the screen now remains dead on TTY1-6. I can type there, run commands and everything, an X comes back up, too.
[21:45] <hhp2k1> BRB everyone!
[21:45] <Linuz2009> Hi, my computer had this long humming sound and I want to know what does that mean, I know my CPU is pretty averaged and my memory had used more than half
[21:45]  * hhp2k1 blasts off into the realm of dusty old hardware heaven
[21:45] <jussi01> nowth: which gfx card?
[21:45] <Slart> gazillions.. bazillion.. my bad ;)
[21:45] <nowth> geforce 7950 GT
[21:45] <mzz> tneyrpo: if you can still log in you can probably find a way to kill the problematic processes, although that's also a bit annoying because they're all bash
[21:46] <nowth> the problem doesn't require me to start X
[21:46] <c0ntract0r> where can someone upload a screenshot for a temp url easily?
[21:46] <Gho> Linuz2009: is the hum perhaps coming from one of your fans?
[21:46] <Slart> c0ntract0r: imagebin
[21:46] <Linuz2009> Gho: it is.
[21:46] <tneyrpo> ok, guess i should have tried it in a VM first. thanks for your help :)
[21:46] <Gho> Linuz2009: Well, if the humming noise is coming from your fan, it's not a software problem- you just have a noisy fan
[21:46] <Soul_Shadow> I now have java thx all for ur help
[21:47] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: \o/ my pleasure
[21:47] <nowth> jussi: when I can boot into a console and never start X, I still have same problem.
[21:47] <Linuz2009> Gho: the light is constantly blink so rapidly that its like a light now
[21:47] <Gho> Linuz2009: your fan has a.. light on it?
[21:47] <Soul_Shadow> ok guess not
[21:47] <nowth> Gho: mine does, too
[21:47] <Soul_Shadow> I need firefox plugin now :P
[21:47] <Gho> tneyrpo: Now you know not to run unknown commands on a production envirnoment
[21:47] <nadan_> how do i load a module?   lmod | grep ntfs doesn't come up with nething
[21:48] <nadan_> lsmod rather
[21:48] <Soul_Shadow> is it  sun-java-plugin?? the package?
[21:48] <Linuz2009> Gho: No, the cylinder symbol on a laptop
[21:48] <guntbert> nadan_: modprobe ...
[21:48] <static> does anyone know if there's a way to get samba not to work like crap on ubuntu server 8.04?
[21:48] <Linuz2009> Gho: you know what I mean, its like telling you how busy it is.
[21:48] <Gho> Linuz2009: when you said the humming noise was coming from a fan, I apparently made a bad assumtion that the noise was in fact coming from a fan. Perhaps I had bad information.
[21:49] <nadan_> lolz at the fact that my computer doesn't have modprobe  i thought that was it :-\
[21:49] <Soul_Shadow> Hey gho u know what package name for firefox java plugin is??
[21:49] <Linuz2009> Gho: well fan is inside my PC and a fan is a another physical device
[21:50] <LjL> Linuz2009: no, it's simply telling you when the hard drive is being accessed.
[21:50] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: sun-java6-plugin :)
[21:50] <Soul_Shadow> thx I just found it :P
[21:50] <LjL> Linuz2009: nothing to do with fans, or for that matter nothing intrinsically to do with business (although it's likely that when your computer is very, very busy, your hard drive will get a lot of use)
[21:50] <Linuz2009> LjL: then why the cylinder symbol is a light now?
[21:51] <Linuz2009> LjL: it suppose to blink
[21:51] <Gho> Linuz2009: because something's accessing your hard drive
[21:51] <LjL> Linuz2009: because the hard drive is being used all the time.
[21:51] <Linuz2009> Gho: then what should I do, my computer are getting slower
[21:52] <jake>  whats the problem linuz2009
[21:52] <Linuz2009> jake: cylinder symbol on my laptop is a light now and instead of blinking.
[21:52] <Linuz2009> jake: someone told me that something is accessing my hard drive
[21:53] <Gho> Linuz2009: I'd look into what programs you have running that might be indexing your hard drive
[21:53] <mrpockets> hey friends
[21:53] <chaosphere> Hi i'm having some problems after resizing a partition. 'parted' and 'df -h' show a diffent size. http://pastebin.com/m19236235 Can anyone help me out?
[21:53] <Linuz2009> jake: and its causing this fan humming
[21:53] <eugman> Is there a tool for renaming filenames so they can be moved to a flash drive?
[21:53] <LjL> eugman: why do they need to be renamed?
[21:53] <Linuz2009> Gho: yeah?
[21:54] <stillfree> ciao a tutti
[21:54] <guntbert> Linuz2009: are you on jaunty?
[21:54] <LjL> !it | stillfree
[21:54] <Supersaiyan_IV> I'd like to somebody to confirm a Compiz bug for me. 1.Run gedit with two tabs running 2. enter the compiz 'scale' effect 3. while in scale effect close gedit by clicking mouse3 on it. Compiz should crash.
[21:54] <Gho> Linuz2009: If your hard drive is being accessed constantly, it may cause it to run hotter, which in turn will cause your comptuer to turn up some fans.  This is normal.
[21:54] <stillfree> hi!!!!
[21:54] <Linuz2009> Gho: then what cause my computer to freeze?
[21:55] <Supersaiyan_IV> if somebody finds the bug, im filing it on launchpad
[21:55] <Soul_Shadow> OK I need help I have java all installed but it shows up white screen & I know the game works
[21:55] <Linuz2009> guntbert: yes
[21:55] <mzz> chaosphere: did you grow the partition, and was the size in df before equal to what it is now?
[21:55] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: sometime Java apps take a while to initialize, especially if Java's not yet been run on that system.  Give it a couple minutes.
[21:56] <chaosphere> mzz: yes you are right. I grew it for about 3gig
[21:56] <AustinS> Do I need any type of virus protection or any other security stuff? I have Adblock+ and Better Privacy for Firefox.  Is anything else really necessary?
[21:56] <LjL> !virus
[21:56] <Soul_Shadow> possible I need 2 restart os?
[21:56] <guntbert> Linuz2009: I killed my tracker applet because of max cpu use, there seems to be a problem (like "index corrupt")
[21:56] <eugman> LjL: It didn't specify what was wring but i tried copying over some files and it said invalid filename. They have names like eng-301-podcast-2259-215494.mp3
[21:56] <LjL> AustinS: if you are not behind a firewalling router, you might consider a firewall
[21:56] <dreamy> whats a good ati to game ? anyone ?
[21:56] <ikonia> dreamy: ati to game ?
[21:56] <Linuz2009> guntbert: my CPU is not maxed
[21:56] <LjL> eugman: no idea why those would be invalid...
[21:56] <mzz> chaosphere: sounds like for some reason the partition was resized but the filesystem on it wasn't. I'd expect unmounting the partition and running "resize2fs /dev/sda2" to help (but back up your data first, etc)
[21:57] <dreamy> i good ati.. that i can buy.. to game :)
[21:57] <AustinS> LjL: is firewall not on by default?  How do I configure a firewall?  I am behind a router, but it is a laptop and I travel.
[21:57] <dreamy> ikonia
[21:57] <ikonia> dreamy: try ##hardware
[21:57] <LjL> !firewall | AustinS
[21:57] <guntbert> Linuz2009: hwat does system monitor say?
[21:57] <guntbert> *what
[21:57] <Gho> AustinS: look into ufw and gufw
[21:57] <AustinS> awesome, thanks
[21:57] <dreamy> ikonia: ty .. no one answered it #ati
[21:57] <eugman> LjL: hmm, maybe it's the foldername then. I'll have to check
[21:57] <LjL> AustinS: no firewall is on by default, because there are very few open services by default, so if you don't install any services...
[21:57] <ikonia> dreamy: #ati is normally for software support only, ##hardware is probably better
[21:57] <mrpockets> So I'm using 8.10 with an Audigy2 sound card
[21:57] <dreamy> ikonia: nice channel
[21:57] <dreamy> ikonia: ok.. perfect
[21:57] <dreamy> :)
[21:58] <mrpockets> Alsa mixer has *always* been a jiant multi channel sound board, but now its just a single volume level
[21:58] <Linuz2009> guntbert: Memory used 56.3% of 488.6MB
[21:58] <mrpockets> How can i get the other settings back?
[21:58] <AustinS> I'm studying to be an IT Auditor, just finished school, and that is why I am trying to learn my way around linux a little bit better before I start later this month.  Security is something I really have to focus on.  I've been using linux on and off for about 8 years but never consistently enough to feel really comfortable like I do in Windows.
[21:58] <Linuz2009> guntbert: CPU in the mid 30's - 40's
[21:59] <guntbert> Linuz2009: no idea then - but you could still "pause" tracker - see if it helps
[21:59] <chaosphere> mzz: i was afraid you'll advice me to this. can i do a backup with dd into an image and play it back if something goes wrong?
[21:59] <Linuz2009> guntbert: pause tracker?
[21:59] <eugman> LjL: Ah, it looks like the directory was named poorly. Thanks for stirring my memory.
[22:00] <Soul_Shadow> ok been least 5 min since last laod java not working any suggestions? everythingis installed..
[22:00] <mzz> chaosphere: yes (and I must admit I've used resize2fs myself without doing extra backups of partitions involved, although my data files are backed up regularly)
[22:00] <h00k> Soul_Shadow: have you tired to restart Firefox before you tried it?
[22:01] <chaosphere> mzz: ok i give it a try. Thanks a lot for helping!
[22:01] <mzz> chaosphere: I'm a firm believer in the rule that as long as you make sure you have backups of everything important you'll never need them :)
[22:01] <Soul_Shadow> yes
[22:01] <quizme> can somebody help me install keepassx, https://launchpad.net/~keepassx/+archive/ppa
[22:01] <locodoso> hey.
[22:01] <Soul_Shadow> first thing I did I also restarted the pc
[22:01] <quizme> i don't know how to install this ppa thing, and the gpg and asc files
[22:02] <quizme> i'm confused
[22:02] <rizvan> help undelete
[22:02] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: perhaps try another Java applet to ensure that Java and the plugin are working properly?
[22:02] <locodoso> i need some help. my wifi card doesnt work in ubuntu. i have a wmp54gx with ubuntu 9.04
[22:02] <locodoso> how do i install the drivers from this?
[22:02] <rizvan> can we undelte deleted documents folder, rm -rf documents ???
[22:03] <h00k> rizvan: negative
[22:03] <ikonia> rizvan: that will delete anything you want
[22:03] <VCoolio> quizme it's explained here https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#keys?action=show&redirect=PPAKeys
[22:03] <chaosphere> mzz: yes, but playing around with the root partition can always be a fast way to shoot yourself in your foot.
[22:04] <dkulchenko> So... I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 (actually Linux Mint 6, but whatever) onto a 4G USB drive, and "usb-creator" generated a 3.1GB casper-rw file for persistence. But when I boot into the system, it only shows the size of / as 1009MB, with only 800MB of free space. What's going on?
[22:04] <Flare183> !wireless | locodoso (this might help you)
[22:04] <happosade> Can I selecet -O2 or -Os from gcc over make?
[22:05] <rizvan> I was playing around with find . -iname *.exe -delete
[22:05] <quizme> vcoolio i read it but it's complicated
[22:05] <Soul_Shadow> actually teh java works to a point in Runscape teh nturns white on laod & stays at loading some crap
[22:05] <mzz> chaosphere: you'll have to do this with the partition unmounted afaik, which means from a livecd if it's /
[22:05] <rizvan> then i did locate -i *.pdf|find delete
[22:05] <x_> hi
[22:05] <Soul_Shadow> but I been on it in windows & know that it functions
[22:05] <rizvan> which deleted every file in my HOME and hung the system
[22:05] <mzz> rizvan: err, "find delete"?
[22:05] <rizvan> yup
[22:05] <quizme> vcoolio do i have to have a launch pad login ?
[22:05] <rizvan> weird mistake
[22:05] <happosade> !hello | x_
[22:05] <chaosphere> mzz: yes that's what i also did for checking the filesystem etc.
[22:05] <mzz> rizvan: that wouldn't have done what you said
[22:05] <VCoolio> quizme: not that complicated but Iets see. No, no login needed
[22:05] <c0ntract0r> Can anyone tell me how to install an equalizer on amarok with 9.04?
[22:06] <rizvan> find -delete
[22:06] <Soul_Shadow> OK I am running a diffrent java applet & I cannot access it either
[22:06] <rizvan> find -delete is like find -exec rm {} \;
[22:06] <mzz> rizvan: most likely it would've given you "find: `delete': No such file or directory". If there actually *is* a file or directory called "delete" it would've listed its contents
[22:06] <Soul_Shadow> everything installedwithout errors so why would my java not function now?
[22:06] <VCoolio> quizme: first add the repository lines. Open synaptic, go to settings > repositories
[22:06] <mzz> rizvan: ahhh, find -delete, not find delete
[22:06] <mzz> rizvan: I'm pretty sure you wanted "xargs rm", not "find -delete"
[22:07] <rizvan> mzz, can we not undelete atleast my Documents directory
[22:07] <AustinS> I am so used to double click the top left icon of a window to close it.  How in the world can I enable this?  I'm trying to break the habit but I can't stop.
[22:07] <buntunuby> Hello i am running jaunty i edited some x.org thing trying to get my video working and now my laptop won't boot up think it was x.org config please help me
[22:07] <mzz> rizvan: I have zero experience with undelete utilities, sorry
[22:07] <guntbert> Linuz2009: I have an applet that looks a bit like a looking glass. It controls "tracker" (it indexes your files to make searches faster)
[22:07] <quizme> vcoolio I added the repository lines.  that was easy.
[22:07] <Gho> buntunuby: it won't boot at all, or it just won't boot intoX?
[22:07] <happosade> Can I selecet -O2 or -Os from gcc over make?
[22:08] <quizme> vcoolio i also added the gpg key, but i'm not sure if it's the right one or if i added it the right way
[22:08] <VCoolio> quizme: then from https://launchpad.net/~keepassx/+archive/ppa click the key 1024R etcetera
[22:08] <happosade> Opitimice code.
[22:08] <rizvan> no problem.. when things go bad.. it's a lesson to "backup" often :)
[22:08] <VCoolio> quizme: you copied to textfile and imported it?
[22:08] <alexxx> hello
[22:08] <Simetrical> I'm using Xinerama.  How do I set which monitor has the GNOME panels?  Currently it's the left-hand one, but I'd like it to be the right-hand one.
[22:08] <happosade> !hello | alexxx
[22:08] <quizme> vcoolio, i copied a key to a textfile then imported it yes
[22:08] <alexxx> anyone here has used inkscape?
[22:08] <m3dlg> how do i use root from a file browser window to make changes (as a live disk user)
[22:08] <dkulchenko> alexxx: yep
[22:08] <quizme> vcoolio, and i put it in /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-launchpad.gpg
[22:08] <kora-chan> heya, im using jaunty and have a really bad error,... the system told me that i need to install some openooffice.org-gb help files to have complete language support and i did it. during the install it caused an error. now it says that my package database is broken and i should run "sudo apt-get install -f". this fails too,... the error ouput is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/169109/. can anybody help me fix this?
[22:09] <carick> !ask | alexxx
[22:09] <VCoolio> quizme: ok, then reload database and find your package and install, if no errors / warnings about keys it's ok
[22:09] <quizme> vcoolio, how do i reload the database?
[22:09] <buntunuby> gho itg boots up but i get an error saying failed to start x server (your graphical interface) It is likely that it is not set up correctly
[22:09] <alexxx> i cant do a simple task. want to import a png to the program.and then save it as .svg
[22:09] <VCoolio> quizme: in synaptic main window click reload or in terminal sudo apt-get update
[22:09] <alexxx> when i do it. i just take an empty .svg
[22:09] <quizme> sudo apt-get update
[22:10] <Gho> buntunuby: do you ahve an option to restore a 'safe' configuration?
[22:10] <quizme> ok
[22:10] <alexxx> why is this?
[22:10] <dkulchenko> alexxx: you can't convert a raster drawing to a vector drawing
[22:10] <dkulchenko> alexxx: svg is a vector drawing format
[22:10] <buntunuby> gho not that i am awaare of
[22:10] <m3dlg> how do i use root from a file browser window to make changes (as a live disk user)
[22:10] <ray66> Ubuntu Hardy gnome desktop 4 workspaces How do I add different wallpaper to each workspace
[22:10] <edl2203> hi everyone
[22:10] <dkulchenko> alexxx: png is a raster drawing format
[22:10] <Gho> buntunuby: can you loginto a text mode console?
[22:10] <edl2203> new to ubuntu new to this #
[22:10] <alexxx> a jpeg to svg .either eeH?
[22:10] <Gho> dkulchenko: I thought that .png was a sort of raster/vector hybrid
[22:10] <Soul_Shadow> anyone know why my java applets do not show up?? just sits loadig?? I installed everything & no errors & also reset teh pc to make sue..  I loded 2 seperate applets same problem I need HELP!
[22:10] <quizme> vcoolio i got warnings
[22:11] <Eevee> alexxx: you can trace it, and inkscape can try to trace it, and there are online services that can try to trace it, but "convert png to svg" is like trying to convert .doc to text
[22:11] <coug> how to enable scrolling by dragging the middle-click?
[22:11] <VCoolio> quizme ok post here or use pastebin if it's long and multiline text
[22:11] <edl2203> so we have a helper around
[22:11] <buntunuby> gho yes i can get to a prompt
[22:11] <dkulchenko> Gho: Well, not quite. Not to the extent that SVG could recognize the parts of PNG files as SVG shapes/nodes/paths.
[22:11] <boritek> hello
[22:11] <quizme> vcoolio http://pastie.org/473934
[22:11] <Gho> dkulchenko: and this, I was Enlightened :)
[22:12] <boritek> how can i rebuild the installed package database. The dpkg-query still lists packages that i have just removed!
[22:12] <alexxx> oh. i see.thanks for the help.. do u know any good libraries with svg icons?
[22:12] <Gho> buntunuby: try loggint in and running dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[22:12] <dkulchenko> alexxx: jpg/gif/png/bmp are all raster formats and cannot be converted to SVG.
[22:12] <Gho> buntunuby: then statx and see if it works
[22:12] <alexxx> tthanks
[22:12] <dkulchenko> So... I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 (actually Linux Mint 6, but whatever) onto a 4G USB drive, and "usb-creator" generated a 3.1GB casper-rw file for persistence. But when I boot into the system, it only shows the size of / as 1009MB, with only 800MB of free space. What's going on?
[22:12] <Soul_Shadow> Gho any idea why my java plugin not workign for firefox??
[22:12] <Gho> buntunuby: 'startx' rather that 'statx' :p
[22:12] <Eevee> alexxx: tango icons all have svg versions
[22:13] <ray66> Ubuntu Hardy gnome desktop 4 workspaces How do I add different wallpaper to each workspace
[22:13] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I'm honestly not sure; I've never seen that behaviour.  You could perhaps try installing java5 rather than java6?
[22:13] <Linuz2009> guntbert: yeah, how does this applet help me?
[22:13] <quizme> vcoolio what's the diagnosis doctor?  is it fatal?
[22:13] <Soul_Shadow> nope it was all java 6 I watched the install
[22:13] <ctartamella> hi have an X question.  I have an nvidia based laptop that I want to hook an external dell widescreen display to.  I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers (v180).  Using twinview on another monitor works like a charm.  However, even using this display by itself and not in twinview i get distorted rainbowish colors on the display.  i suspect it isnt reporting something to Xorg properly.  Anyone have any thoughts?
[22:13] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I know; I was asking if you were willing to try java5 rather than java6
[22:13] <VCoolio> quizme you pasted this as key in text editor and imported? http://paste.ubuntu.com/169114/
[22:13] <coug> how to enable scrolling by dragging the middle-click?
[22:14] <Soul_Shadow> my firefox might not be updated could that be it?
[22:14] <Soul_Shadow> I instaleld java6 Gho
[22:14] <ikonia> Soul_Shadow: how did you install it ?
[22:14] <buntunuby> it says dpkg: need an action
[22:14] <Soul_Shadow> I do not wanna have 2 remove it
[22:14] <Soul_Shadow> it was hell to get it
[22:14] <m3dlg> I need to use the file bowser as a root user in the live disk, what do i do to do this
[22:14] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I know that you installed java 6.  I was asking if you would be willing to give java5 a try.
[22:14] <ikonia> Soul_Shadow: how did you install it ?
[22:14] <boritek> how can i rebuild the installed package database??? The dpkg-query still lists packages that i have just removed!
[22:14] <Soul_Shadow> apt-get
[22:14] <montel> anyone downloaded Windows 7 RC yet?
[22:14] <usser> m3dlg, sudo nautilus --browser --no-desktop
[22:14] <ikonia> Soul_Shadow: what package
[22:14] <AlsaPCM> i did montel
[22:14] <ikonia> montel: off topic here
[22:14] <Gho> boritek: apt-get update should do the trick
[22:15] <ctartamella> montel: as did i
[22:15] <ikonia> ctartamella: it's offtopic here please.
[22:15] <m3dlg> ikonia thanks
[22:15] <montel> ikonia, how? i wondering how it works in a VM.
[22:15] <boritek> Gho: it just refresh the downloadable apps
[22:15] <AlsaPCM> i am running now on the virtualbox
[22:15] <buntunuby> gho it says dpkg need an action
[22:15] <ikonia> montel: how it works in a vm is nothing to do with ubuntu -
[22:15] <Abed> hey guys i wanna ask how to know whcih GTK engine for themes i am using
[22:15] <Soul_Shadow> sun-java6-jre Gho & java6-plugin
[22:15] <montel> ikonia, yes, it is.
[22:15] <binarymutant> any python ppl:  will hashlib give errors if it's not working correctly or is it silent?
[22:15] <ikonia> montel: no - it's not
[22:15] <ikonia> !info sun-java6-jre
[22:15] <edl2203> where do i find a list of the commands and what do they mean
[22:15] <ikonia> montel: what is "gho" ?
[22:15] <Gho> buntunuby: did you use dpkg-reconfigure ? or just dpkg?
[22:15] <montel> AlsaPCM, i was going to do VM server
[22:16] <edl2203> anybody
[22:16] <ikonia> shesek`: ahhh gho is a user
[22:16] <quizme> vcoolio: no i imported a different one
[22:16] <buntunuby> lol i dunno i will retry
[22:16] <VCoolio> quizme: but something like that?
[22:16] <quizme> vcoolio ya
[22:16] <AlsaPCM> what is the best msn for ubuntu
[22:16] <AlsaPCM> gnome
[22:16] <AlsaPCM> ?
[22:16] <quizme> vcoolio: should i import the one you gave me ?
[22:16] <ikonia> AlsaPCM: pidgin is the default, there are specific ones like amsn
[22:17] <ctartamella> alsapcm: i know amsn is pretty popular
[22:17] <IndyGunFreak> AlsaPCM: msn?... pidgin works fine, but if you need webcam support, use amsn
[22:17] <winboard> hi
[22:17] <ray66> Ubuntu Hardy gnome desktop 4 workspaces How do I add different wallpaper to each workspace
[22:17] <dkulchenko> When Ubuntu boots from Live USB, it mounts the casper-rw as a root device, right?
[22:17] <ikonia> ray66: the functionality is not supported yet
[22:17] <montel> im wating for the 3gb to download. how much RAM did you give it? HDD space too?
[22:17] <dkulchenko> *as a loop device
[22:17] <ikonia> montel: this is offtopic
[22:17] <buntunuby> gho it says xorg-xserver is not installed
[22:17] <IndyGunFreak> ray66: unfortunately, you can't w/ Gnome.. i think there's an application you can install, that will do it.. but it won't by default.
[22:17] <montel> ikonia, ok sure.
[22:18] <VCoolio> quizme: no, I don't know, it's what I got when I clicked the key for your package. You use jaunty? It may be different each time, don't know. At least if you trust the package install it, the warning is just a warning, not an error
[22:18] <ikonia> montel: thanks
[22:18] <ctartamella> hi have an X question.  I have an nvidia based laptop that I want to hook an external dell widescreen display to.  I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers (v180).  Using twinview on another monitor works like a charm.  However, even using this display by itself and not in twinview i get distorted rainbowish colors on the display.  i suspect it isnt reporting something to Xorg properly.  Anyone have any thoughts?
[22:18] <montel> ubottu, vm
[22:18] <quizme> vcoolio: i use 9.04
[22:18] <AustinS> Where can I get a list of hotkeys?  I like being quick and using my keyboard for everything.  I want to be able to manipulate windows using hotkeys.  For example, showing my desktop, sending window to second desktop (ctrl+alt+shit+arrow), and stuff like that.  Also how complicated are the cool effects I've seen for showing the cube of desktops?
[22:19] <Gho> buntunuby: I'm a dolt.  try xserver-xorg :)
[22:20] <Soul_Shadow> well Gho any idea's?? my java not working but firefox not updated.. could be issue?
[22:20] <quizme> vcoolio: so i can install it now ?
[22:20] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: updating firefox is worth a try
[22:20] <quizme> vcoolio: don't i do something like apt-get install keepassx  ?
[22:20] <ikonia> Soul_Shadow: is ubuntu offering a firefox update
[22:20] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I would still be intersted in seeing if installing java 5 rather than 6 works.
[22:20] <Eevee> AustinS: Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts lists the gnome ones.  for ridiculous 3d effects (as well as some actual useful stuff) install compizconfig settings manager and go nuts
[22:21] <VCoolio> quizme: yes, with sudo, but check ubuntuforums there is a script that fixes your repo keys problem, I'll go look for it
[22:21] <blaise> Could somoene please explain to me how the broadcom-sta driver is working with WEP passphrase usning NetworkManager, but won't work any other way? (manual, wicd, or anything else)
[22:21] <robinpahwa123> [OFF-TOPIC] Do somebody know how can I check the performance of my two executables(exe on windows OS) after I optimize my code. Any Idea will be of great help
[22:22] <Soul_Shadow> I do have firefox updated according to my updater
[22:22] <neurobuntu> I recently installed skype but my framerate is really low on video chats does anybody know how I can improve this?
[22:22] <Soul_Shadow> ok Im installing java5
[22:22] <Gho> good luck!
[22:22] <ikonia> Soul_Shadow: have you restarted firefox since you updated ?
[22:22] <Soul_Shadow> if I have 2 re-do my os I gunna have to kill u gho :)
[22:22] <robinpahwa123> bc: Do you have any idea ?
[22:23] <Soul_Shadow> Of course since I restarted the pc
[22:23] <Soul_Shadow> read my coments
[22:23] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I'll refund your $8.00 of monopoly money too
[22:23] <iliketofrolic666> how do use an ati tv tuner in ubuntu?
[22:23] <ikonia> Soul_Shadow: there has been a lot of comments apologies if I missed that
[22:23] <buntunuby> gho your awesome that worked back up now do i need to save anything or is it good
[22:23] <jack1> how would one fix broken dns, i just installed dosbox on my machine and it crashed then after reboot my dns is broke any ideas peeps
[22:23] <Gho> buntunuby: you should be good to go!  Cheers!
[22:24] <neurobuntu> jack1, use opendns
[22:24] <Soul_Shadow> So I have to remove java 6? GGGAAHHHH!!
[22:24] <ikonia> jack1: define broke please
[22:24] <buntunuby> gho Thank You very much greatly appreciated
[22:24] <Gho> jack1: are you unable to resolve DNS? look at /etc/resolv.conf
[22:24] <Gho> buntunuby: my pleasure! \o/
[22:24] <quizme> vcoolio: thanks for your help.
[22:24] <jack1> i can ping ips but cant resolve anythin
[22:24] <mneptok> ikonia: "having no money"
[22:24] <quizme> vcoolio it works now :)
[22:24] <Gho> jack1: look at your /etc/resolv.conf
[22:24] <VCoolio> quizme: the warnings were for other repositories than keepassx; to fix use the first post of this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056099&highlight=ppa+keys but even better is do it yourself and understand what needs to be done
[22:24] <ctartamella> jack1: check that a dns server is in /etc/resolv.conf
[22:25] <mneptok> ikonia: whereas "broken" means "not functioning within expected parameters" ;)
[22:25] <Gho> jack1: you should have a line that looks like 'nameserver 4.2.2.1' or somesuch
[22:25] <jack1> k 1 sec ill go to other pc and look at it what should be in there
[22:25] <quizme> vcoolio: thanks i'm sleepy.  need to take a nap i think.  thanks so much.
[22:25] <VCoolio> quizme: ok, bookmark the link I gave and sleep well
[22:27] <ctartamella> hi have an X question.  I have an nvidia based laptop that I want to hook an external dell widescreen display to.  I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers (v180).  Using twinview on another monitor works like a charm.  However, even using this display by itself and not in twinview i get distorted rainbowish colors on the display.  i suspect it isnt reporting something to Xorg properly.  Anyone have any thoughts?
[22:27] <Anon6233> i was wondering if i could get some assistance
[22:28] <Gho> ctartamella: what video mode are you using on the displ
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> Anon6233: just ask..
[22:28] <Gho> !ask | Anon6233
[22:28] <jack1> hmmmm in etc i hace a dir caled resolvconf no file inside that dir is another dir called update-libc/.d
[22:28] <Anon6233> if anyone can help me please pm, as this applet is sort of weird wih only half text showing up
[22:28] <nmvictor> ANon6233:about what?
[22:28] <kora-chan> heya im using jaunty x64; after a installation crashed i cant get synaptic/apt working again,... all i get are segmentation faults,.. any ideas?
[22:28] <ctartamella> gho: 1680x1050 60hz.  but ive tried every mode and all have the same result
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> Anon6233: what do you mean apple?
[22:28] <IndyGunFreak> *applet
[22:29] <sima> ctartamella, I would like to get also those distorted image, how do you did that? :P
[22:29] <Gho> jack1: that sounds... odd.  Try making a new file in /etc called 'resolv.conf' with one line- "nameserver 4.2.2.1"
[22:29] <jack1> Gho: ok i will try
[22:29] <ctartamella> sima: well wehn i fix it ill let you know how to reproduce ;)
[22:29] <IndyGunFreak> kora-chan: did you fail installing an application
[22:29] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[22:30] <Kungen354646> can someone help me get alsa working?
[22:30] <Gho> ctartamella: if you take a screenshot and open that, do the distortions show up in the file, or are they an artifact of the monitor itself?
[22:30] <IndyGunFreak> !alsa > Kungen354646
[22:31] <jack1> anyone ever heard of avahi-daemon /
[22:31] <AustinS> .
[22:31] <jorgerosa> hi
[22:31] <ctartamella> gho: the monitor works fine on other machines/OSes..... so i doubt its that.  i can see the ubuntu background on the left side, but as it goes across the screen it gets more distorted
[22:31] <sima> ctartamella, it seems to me that it is question for eather nvidia pripriatary driver support or channel for nvidia drivers
[22:31] <kora-chan> IndyGunFreak: kinda. i wanted to add additional language support and it told me that language support for gb isnt fully installed and that it wanted to install the help files for openoffice which i did let him do. dureing the installation it kinda crashed and it told me to do a "apt-get install -f" to fix this,.. but that failed to and now i cant even open a packet manager or do something with apt
[22:32] <IndyGunFreak> kora-chan: well what error do you get when you sudo apt-get install something?
[22:32] <ctartamella> sima: ive done this successfully with another smaller display.... so i think its more an issue with the monitor itself.
[22:32] <Ljorring> someone has experience with sound problems in ubuntu 8.04?
[22:32] <ls> How can i show all the directories have 777 permission and thier path in shell ?
[22:33] <VCoolio> kora-chan: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin
[22:33] <ctartamella> sima: is there an nvidia channel?
[22:33] <kora-chan> IndyGunFreak: zsh: segmentation fault  sudo apt-get install -f
[22:33] <VCoolio> kora-chan: that will remove downloaded cache stuff from synaptic and may get it running again
[22:33] <Gho> kora-chan: you're usung zsh?  Do you have the same problem if you use bash?
[22:33] <kora-chan> VCoolio: thanks that helped
[22:34] <unop> ls, find /path/to/somewhere/ -type d -perm 777
[22:34] <kora-chan> VCoolio: apt works again
[22:34] <sima> ctartamella, #nvidia, #cuda
[22:34] <VCoolio> kora-chan: ok, good luck with it
[22:34] <clearscreen> I just installed virtualbox-2.2 but for some reason I can no longer execute it through the 'virtualbox' or 'virtualbox-2.2' command.. where did it go?
[22:34] <ctartamella> sima: thanks ill try over there.
[22:34] <kora-chan> IndyGunFreak: thanks too, the second attempt to install the gb help files worked
[22:35] <IndyGunFreak> kora-chan: good.
[22:36] <sima> clearscreen, #vbox
[22:36] <vanessa> Hi all...
[22:37] <civpro> i swear to god, i cant catch a freaking break
[22:37] <unop> clearscreen,  check if VB is installed.    dpkg -l | grep -i virtualbox
[22:37] <sima> hi vanessa
[22:37] <unop> civpro, language ..
[22:37] <vanessa> trying to sort out a problem with jaunty - brasero can't use MP3's, complaining that "gstreamer can't handle" them.
[22:37] <jared> Hello
[22:37] <vanessa> d'oh, forgot to fix that.
[22:37] <VanessaE> that's better.
[22:37] <pm2> Hi - I'm on Kubuntu 9.04.  I recently bought a USB DVD drive, which forums say is compatible with Linux.  When I put a DVD in it, I get a pop-up saying that the DVD is in, and I choose to play it using Dragon Player.  However, when I hit play, the hard drive light comes on, and the computer freezes, though I can hear the HDD working and the DVD drive spinning up.
[22:37] <pm2> Any idea on how to fix this>
[22:37] <civpro> unop, no cuss words used man
[22:37] <civpro> freaking, god?
[22:37] <civpro> lol
[22:38] <unop> civpro, it's obfuscated swearing .. and not needed in here
[22:38] <sima> VanessaE, that is one time issue. just install those gstreamer things from synaptic
[22:38] <civpro> whatever man, it wasnt swearing at all
[22:38] <sima> help.ubuntu.com is your friend :)
[22:39] <VanessaE> sima: I suspected the same, but which packages do I need exactly?  I've googled for hours now with no solution
[22:39] <sima> VanessaE, just search it in synaptic :)
[22:39] <Guest23706> Can anyone help me out? im having an issue trying to connect to my router through my new laptop, i know it has a wireless card because i can connect on vista (i am dual booting) but right now im connected by wire since it will not show my wireless connections when i click on the network icon in the panel. can anyone help?
[22:39] <sima> VanessaE, or help.ubuntu.com
[22:39] <Veector> my pc will not allow me to enable desktop effects
[22:40] <jack1> i have a file here on two identical pcs called avahi-daemon on both pcs it shows green when ls but on one it has a * at the end any ideas why this is
[22:40] <bc> I'm curious, has anyone that's using a vcs moved to git from svn due to disk space usage?
[22:40] <Eevee> bc: $work is in the process of doing so yes
[22:40] <Veector> help
[22:40] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: what wireless device do you have
[22:40] <Veector> anyone there
[22:41] <VCoolio> VanessaE: or stay lazy and do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:41] <Soul_Shadow> JAVA 5 does NOT function nor does java6 Need HELP I cannot get this effin thing to work in firefox 3.0
[22:41] <bc> Eevee: apparently the disk space saved is quite incredible
[22:41] <Anon6233> can anyone refer me to a special irc channel for ubunu help?
[22:41] <NakedAtheist> Im not sure IndyGuyFreak, i got this laptop from my friend and i do not know the specs.
[22:41] <IndyGunFreak> Anon6233: that would be this one.
[22:41] <Veector> help
[22:41] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes, and see how it identifies the wireless device
[22:41] <VanessaE> er, lazy?
[22:41] <Eevee> bc: yeah, and it's much faster too.  git is pretty cool; I've been using it for personal stuff for a few months now
[22:41]  * VanessaE grumbles.
[22:42] <jack1> what does a white asterisk mean at the end of a filename when i ls dir
[22:42] <Veector> i have a ET1161-05 and it wont allow me to get desktop effects
[22:42] <sima> VanessaE, best rhings in life are free :)
[22:42] <bc> Eevee: I may switch
[22:42] <VCoolio> VanessaE: stay happy, kidding. But that's the package
[22:43] <VanessaE> checking now, thanks VC.
[22:43] <VCoolio> Veector: you read this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=799070
[22:43] <VanessaE> (husband needs it for his box)
[22:43] <IndyGunFreak> Veector: well that means little, you need to figure out the graphics device you have
[22:43] <Veector> illright
[22:43] <NakedAtheist> IndyGuyFreak, i do not see anything referring to wireless in lspci.
[22:43] <Veector> how do i do that
[22:43] <nmvictor> jack1:thats a wild card.did you say ls a dir?weird
[22:43] <Eevee> bc: doubt you'll regret it!
[22:43] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: is it a usb wireless device, or internal wireless device?
[22:44] <NakedAtheist> IndyGuyFreak, Internal
[22:44] <Sebboh> Hey! WTF, Jaunty?  The installer doesn't even offer me a tasksel option.  Maybe I don't want to download and install openoffice or whatever kitsch this thing comes with, ever think about that?
[22:44] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | NakedAtheist pastebin your lspci and give me the link please
[22:44] <jack1> nmvictor: yea i have a file listed as avahi-daemon*
[22:45] <jack1> the text is green and the asterix is white'
[22:45] <arknowleg8778> Hello, Someone to help me for apache?
[22:45] <nmvictor> jack1:is it a problem to you?which directorry is that
[22:45] <NakedAtheist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/169124/
[22:46] <NakedAtheist> There you go.
[22:46] <Anon6233> can anyone help me fix grub?
[22:46] <Anon6233> i get error 22
[22:46] <Anon6233> contacting you guys via live unbuntu cd
[22:46] <Anon6233> if u can, pm me please
[22:46] <VanessaE> VCoolio, that fixed his problem.  thanks!
[22:46] <erUSUL> !minimal | Sebboh
[22:46] <jack1> its in /etc/resolvconf/update-libc.d/ and it is cos i cant resove hosts i think its my probem
[22:46] <VCoolio> VanessaE: good, ur welcome
[22:47] <Sebboh> I just saw gstreamer fly by in the list of packages it's installing.  fsck this, I'll have to use that console install option.  Ubuntu -- there's a frickin minimal installer?  Why didn't you say so? ug.
[22:47] <Anon6233> so can anyone help me?
[22:47] <Anon6233> please?
[22:47] <NakedAtheist> DId you get my pastebin link? IndyGuyFreak?
[22:47] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: yes, and my name is IndyGunFreak
[22:48]  * bc wonders how stable this is at this point -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault 
[22:48] <NakedAtheist> IndyGunFreak, Sorry :(
[22:48] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: and if i'm not mistaken.. I think your wireless device is the Realtek device..
[22:48] <Sebboh> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors <-- zero mention of a minimal installer.
[22:48] <IndyGunFreak> !realtek | NakedAtheist
[22:49] <Supersaiyan_IV> I'd like to somebody to confirm a Compiz bug for me. 1.Run gedit 2. enter the compiz 'scale' effect 3. while in scale effect close gedit by clicking mouse3 on it. Compiz should crash.
[22:49] <Soul_Shadow> ok what was the name of the firefix java plugin??
[22:49] <NakedAtheist> Ill look through and see if i can fix it.
[22:50] <Vhaynne> I have a question about wicd and internet connection sharing, if anyone is familiar with it.
[22:50] <erUSUL> Soul_Shadow: sun-java6-plugin
[22:51] <NakedAtheist> IndyGUnFreak, Uhmm that site is for USB wireless devices. not internal.
[22:51] <Soul_Shadow> nnnooo I am runing java5
[22:51] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: actually, looking at some other lspci's.. i think thats your ethernet controller.
[22:51] <erUSUL> Soul_Shadow: sun-java5-plugin
[22:51] <_CommandeR_> anyone know the Xchat2 channel ?
[22:51] <_CommandeR_> where it is ?
[22:52] <erUSUL> #xchat ?
[22:52] <NakedAtheist> Im a bit lost lol.
[22:53] <erUSUL> Supersaiyan_IV: nope; it does not crash here
[22:53] <Supersaiyan_IV> erUSUL, tell me which gfx card and which gfx driver you have
[22:53] <abz___> +hi guys is there anyway i can load up jaunty and not have to enter in password to authenticate with wireless network?
[22:53] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: part of the problem, is that is a very uncommon wireless device, i just googled it, and came up w/ exactly 1 link, that dead ends
[22:54] <NakedAtheist> IndyGuyFreak, lol... so im SOL?
[22:54] <erUSUL> Supersaiyan_IV: GForce 7300GT 188.55 canualy instaled from nvidias site against my manualy compiled 2.6.30-rc5 kernel
[22:54] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: i don't know if you're SOL, but you're beyond my abilities.
[22:54] <lukasz> kaka demona
[22:54] <Sebboh> What does the 'install console system' mode (f4 menu) on the 9.04 alternative installer CD do, and how do I activate it?  Unlike the f6 menu, no x appears when I select the item.
[22:54] <fanubu> hi
[22:54] <NakedAtheist> IndyGuyFreak, lol well thanks for trying, back to windows.
[22:55] <Supersaiyan_IV> erUSUL, ok, interesting.. especially that youre driver version doesnt exist
[22:55] <Supersaiyan_IV> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.08-pkg2 is latest beta
[22:55] <erUSUL> Supersaiyan_IV: typo is 51 not 55
[22:55] <IndyGunFreak> NakedAtheist: youc an try asking on ubuntuforums.org... there might be someone there that can help
[22:56] <Supersaiyan_IV> erUSUL, i see, that's very weird
[22:56] <erUSUL> Supersaiyan_IV: [    9.201930] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  180.51  Fri Apr 17 00:08:33 PDT 2009
[22:56] <andres__> hi everyone, I have a question... what does mean *** No targets specified and no makefile found. I've jus enter $make
[22:56] <Supersaiyan_IV> erUSUL, im clueless
[22:57] <VampirePenguin> does anyone know if i can install hardy 8.04 lts from an ssh connection that has a current install debian 5.... or does it have to be done local
[22:57] <Supersaiyan_IV> erUSUL, here gedit crashes compiz when closed in scale mode
[22:57] <IndyGunFreak> andres_: did the instructions call for you to run ./configure ?
[22:57] <Linuz2009> restart COMputer.
[22:57] <Supersaiyan_IV> erUSUL, I'll look some more
[22:57] <erUSUL> andres__: it means exactly what it says... is there a makefile in the directory you runned make ?
[22:57] <andres__> IndyGunFreak, yes, I did that before
[22:57] <IndyGunFreak> andres_: did you get any errors
[22:57] <Linuz2009> should help me resolve the problem and shut down for several seconds. you think?
[22:58] <andres__> IndyGunFreak, it says Stop. I don't know if that is an error
[22:58] <Sebboh> Did naked person leave?  S/He needs this: http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=88W8687
[22:58] <Linuz2009> power problem doesn;t seem to be the primarily cause and so try to see if it works. By the way the computer's very hot and I think I need to shut down
[22:58] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | andres_ probably.. run ./configure and pastebin the results.
[22:59] <Soul_Shadow> there its runnning now finally its complete
[22:59] <IndyGunFreak> andres_: what are you trying to compile?
[22:59] <Sebboh> his lspci output shows a device ID of 2a30, vendor marvell.. and pci-database shows that that's a 88w8687 chip. *shrug*
[22:59] <setuid> I just installed Hardy Heron on my T61p, and am trying to configure it. Jaunty is too unstable on this hardware, and KK is a no-go. How do I configure the Compiz plugins on Hardy, without any GUI to do so?
[22:59] <maccam-sager> i've got a UPS connected to a server via USB. this server has the apcupsd running with the webpage status component activated. i want other computers on the network to know when the UPS is going to run out so they can also shut down. does anyone see a way to do this?
[23:00] <setuid> Do I HAVE to configure them manually with gconf-editor?
[23:00] <IndyGunFreak> Sebboh: yeah, he left
[23:00] <chaorain> I'm trying to install Vuze 4.0. It needs libcairo-java. how do I get this on 9.04
[23:00] <Soul_Shadow> linux would be the god of os's if they make it easyer to install crap & better handling of commands
[23:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> my usb improperly shut down on windows and now it wont mount in windows or ubuntu is there a way for force the mount in liunx?
[23:00] <maccam-sager> chaorain: install Vuze from Synaptic
[23:00] <Soul_Shadow> well if u put hardy heoen in ur pc its gunna OD LOL
[23:00] <psypointer> hi
[23:00] <dtchen> U-b-u-n-t-u: you should fsck the partition(s) first
[23:00] <erUSUL> Soul_Shadow: if they make easy top install crap it will be a crappy just like windows
[23:00] <jeffreyf1> is there any way of repairing an install gone bad?
[23:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> dtchen, ok
[23:00] <Soul_Shadow> No it would be stable & functional
[23:01] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: i have no trouble installing anything...
[23:01] <dtchen> jeffreyf1: if you have an alternate installer disk, you can choose the rescue option from the boot menu
[23:01] <Gho> jeffreyf1: it depends on how badly it went.
[23:01] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: lol, yeah,s table and functional, jst like windows.
[23:01] <Soul_Shadow> Indy try install java 6 in ubuntu 9.04 & get it working
[23:01] <freeflowcauvery> OK let's refrain from the fanboy rants
[23:01] <chaorain> maccam-sager, tried that. Vuze stuck at 3.XXX and keeps trying to update
[23:01] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: how did java5 work for you? Same problem?
[23:01] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: i have java6 installed.
[23:01] <Soul_Shadow> no java 5 worked
[23:01] <erUSUL> Soul_Shadow: how much easier can get than going to aplications>add/Remove choose and click apply ?
[23:01] <maccam-sager> chaorain: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:01] <andres__> IndyGunFreak, ubottu ... pastebin http://pastebin.com/m3fca36b1; I'm trying to configure brightness in ubuntu 9.04 on my sony vaio
[23:01] <Soul_Shadow> dunno why java6 does nto funtion in ubuntu 9.04
[23:01] <chaorain> maccam-sager, 9.04
[23:01] <Soul_Shadow> No u cannot
[23:02] <U-b-u-n-t-u> dtchen, it doesnt even show up in Gparted
[23:02] <Soul_Shadow> 9.04 its not there
[23:02] <jeffreyf1> dtchen and Gho: it was a long standing 8.10 upgraded to 9.04.   Having video issue with nvidia drivers
[23:02] <Soul_Shadow> u have to apt-get it
[23:02] <Soul_Shadow> Even after I did a sudo apt-gt update
[23:02] <IndyGunFreak> andres_: what is your graphics device?
[23:02] <Soul_Shadow> & I also updated all my software
[23:02] <dtchen> jeffreyf1: using the repository's nvidia drivers?
[23:02] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: i have java6 and it works fine
[23:02] <Gho> jeffreyf1:  try apt-get --reinstall install <your NV driver package>
[23:02] <Soul_Shadow> Ur not using 9.04
[23:02] <dtchen> U-b-u-n-t-u: is the device recognised when you insert it (via dmesg)?
[23:02] <Soul_Shadow> probly 8.10
[23:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol, ok
[23:03] <chaorain> maccam-sager, for 8.10 I just used one off of http://getdeb.net but they dont have one for 9.04
[23:03] <setuid> Anyone know how to configure Compiz?
[23:03] <jeffreyf1> dtchen: yes...i eneabled the restricted driver and it failed to download but it thinks it is installed because it is trying to use a non-existent driver
[23:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> dtchen, when I instead the usb drive nothing happens at all I had a bad windows shut down so I am assuming thats the issue
[23:03] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: well let me explain it this way, Frostwire requires java, i installed java6(per the repositories), and frostwire runs perfectly.. i've also got the java6 firefox plugin, which works fine
[23:03] <IndyGunFreak> and yes, i'm using 9.04
[23:03] <Soul_Shadow> I ahte 8.10 cus all the broken & buggy issues
[23:04] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: for someone who is completely clueless, you sure know it all.
[23:04] <Soul_Shadow> but 9.04 I justhave to wait for teh software to catch up with linux
[23:04] <Gho> setuid: use compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:04] <maccam-sager> chaorain: i'd just wait for a deb to be posted on getdeb.net
[23:04] <setuid> Gho, What package is that in?
[23:04] <ekimmargni> I recently made my swap partition bigger, but now it's not used on startup; I have to set swapon every time. How can I have the swap partition mounted/used automatically?
[23:04] <andres__> IndyGunFreak, my graphics card: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400M GS (rev a1)
[23:04] <Gho> setuid: that _is_ the package :)
[23:04] <Gho> !info configconfig-settings-manager
[23:04] <IndyGunFreak> andres_: so why are you compiling all that nonsense to adjust your brightness?
[23:04] <Soul_Shadow> Indy you obvoiuslly are totally clueless I run 2.5ghz duel core 2 gig ram 160 80 & 250gig HD 256mb video card
[23:04] <Gho> . . .
[23:04] <Gho> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:04] <ubuntuserver> setuid:  what exactly are yopu trying to do
[23:04] <setuid> Gho, It's not in any repo I have (main, restricted, partner, multiverse, universe, etc.)
[23:05] <Soul_Shadow> ther is no reason for the issues I have
[23:05] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: lol, ok, i'm clueless.. and my java6, on 9.04.. works fine
[23:05] <chaorain> maccam-sager, how long do you think that will take?
[23:05] <Soul_Shadow> only thing Ican see is the software not caught up with linux
[23:05] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: so the only explanation for the issues you have, is you.
[23:05] <maccam-sager> depends on when an uploader gets around to it. it might not be long
[23:05] <Soul_Shadow> Indy go fuk urself Ignored
[23:05] <Soul_Shadow> Ignorant lil prick
[23:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[23:05] <wolfmankurd> hey guys, I'm trying to set up a Tablet, using a fdi file to set the driver however this seems to be being ignored and the wrong driver loaded (evdev not wizardpen) any ideas?
[23:06] <IndyGunFreak> man, if i could be as smart as that guy
[23:06] <maccam-sager> chaorain: if you want, you can hack it by following this guide: http://blink4blog.blogspot.com/2009/04/januty-guide-to-setup-vuze-4.html
[23:06] <Soul_Shadow> Indy I bet you updated 9.04 from 8.10 with java 6 already instaleld
[23:06] <Soul_Shadow> only way it would work
[23:06] <freeflowcauvery> have you updated your /etc/jvm to show /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun right on top?
[23:06] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: you would lose a lot of bets your making w'/ me.. i clean installed 9.04 on 3 machines, all 3 have java6
[23:06] <chaorain> maccam-sager, Thanks
[23:06] <Soul_Shadow> I am running a brand new freaking pc & I followed the instructions given from this chan exactly
[23:07] <maccam-sager> np
[23:07] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I have a fresh 9.04 with working java6. What is the URL of that applet you are trying to use? I'd like to see if it loads over here
[23:07] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: then you're following someones instructions who is likely as ignorant as you are
[23:07] <Soul_Shadow> DO NOT blame me for your stupidity & ignorance in understanding the facts
[23:07] <Gho> !attitude | Soul_Shadow
[23:07] <ekimmargni> Soul_Shadow, IndyGunFreak: maybe you guys should (ask for help from|offer help to) other people, hmm?
[23:07] <Soul_Shadow> GHO read what indy said to me & !Adittude HIOM!
[23:07] <tweak66> hello. i'm trying to dual boot xp and ubuntu using grub.. not sure where to tell grub to look for windows? hda (x,y)? how do i find this out?
[23:07] <Soul_Shadow> Him*
[23:07] <mjm52> HAPPY MOTHERS DAY
[23:07] <Soul_Shadow> I got java 6 FROM the agt-get update
[23:07] <IndyGunFreak> ekimmargni: i don't need your suggestions.. i've helped many people here.. he started w/ me...
[23:08] <IndyGunFreak> anyways
[23:08]  * Gho takes a deep breath
[23:08] <Soul_Shadow> since the add-remove or dpkg had em listed
[23:08] <ekimmargni> IndyGunFreak: don't be a dick to me either
[23:08] <jeffreyf1> Soul_Shadow.....reboot the conversation and try again..
[23:08] <wolfmankurd> tweak66, do you know the where windows parition is in relation to your linux ones?
[23:08] <IndyGunFreak> andres_: that device should have a restricted driver available system/admin/hardware drivers
[23:08] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I'd like to try on my PC the java app you're having trouble with. Could you share the URL?
[23:08] <linduxed> i want to install awesome 3.2.2 on jaunty (repos have 2.x) and im looking at the following page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/awesome/+bug/253985
[23:08] <linduxed> I've tried doing the dget -u --build commands, but i get folders and tarballs, never packages
[23:08] <IndyGunFreak> ekimmargni: i wasn't, i was politely telly you to mind your own buisness
[23:08] <Soul_Shadow> Gho its runescape.com
[23:08] <U-b-u-n-t-u> my usb improperly shut down on windows and now it wont mount in windows or ubuntu is there a way for force the mount in liunx? it doesnt show up in gparted
[23:09] <mysphyt> Hey, folks.  Here's what I want: Boxee running on my TV, controlled by my remote, and my Ubuntu 9.04 machine still accessible through VNC in its own separate session.  Is the best way to do that by a) setting up two separate X servers running simultaneously, b) setting up one X server through something akin to Multiseat, or c) running one X server with Boxee in the foreground?
[23:09] <Soul_Shadow> but I also search free%java%games on google with same issues
[23:09] <Soul_Shadow> any java applet I use does nto run on java 6
[23:09] <tweak66> wolfmankurd: it's on the same drive just different partition.. only invo i seem to get is /dev/sda5
[23:09] <tweak66> info*
[23:10] <setuid> Gho, I found it... i think
[23:10] <wolfmankurd> tweak66, run ls /dev |grep sda to see what partitions you have
[23:10] <Galaxor> Hi there.  After upgrading to jaunty, I can no longer connect to wireless networks with iwconfig ; ifconfig ; dhclient.  I can only do so using the network-manager applet, which means I can't log on to wireless when X is not running.
[23:10] <Galaxor> What gives?
[23:11] <Galaxor> Everything appears to be working until I do dhclient.  Then it just never gets a response.
[23:11] <Soul_Shadow> a brand new pc new HD multi partition 2 gig ram 256mb video 2.5ghx duel core java6 should be runing I do not understand why its not
[23:11] <infomomo> hey guys, i am hagving trouble adding option 120 for SIP servers to my DHCP server? anyone has the dhcpd.conf configuration line?
[23:11] <tweak66> wolfmankurd: i have sda to sda5
[23:11] <ubuntuserver> who needs help
[23:11] <wolfmankurd> tweak66, okay, do you remember which partitions you made? If you instaleld linux after windows windows is probably on sda1
[23:11] <Galaxor> me
[23:12] <jfalvarez> hey!, question, I have ubuntu gutsy, I want to uprade it, but I can't install update-manager-core via apt cause seems like all gutsy packages repos are removed :| how can I upgrade it to ubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:12] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: it's running just fine over here
[23:12] <andres__> IndyGunFreak, yes, I've already installed it, and everything works fine... except by the brightness, I found a tutorial here: file:///home/andres/Desktop/brillo%20-%20este%20si.html but when I write make, it does not seem to do anything and some lines after, it give me another error
[23:12] <tweak66> wolfmankurd: i installed wondows after linux :)
[23:12] <IndyGunFreak> andres_: cant really explain that one.
[23:12] <ubuntuserver> Galaxor what is your issue
[23:12] <enzo> wenas
[23:12] <Soul_Shadow> then WHAT THE FUCK is the apt-get's problem installing & working?
[23:12] <wolfmankurd> tweak66, then I would assume you put it on sda5?
[23:12] <tweak66> wolfmankurd:i know it's on sda5 because thats my only ntfs system
[23:12] <Soul_Shadow> makse no sense
[23:12] <LjL> !language | Soul_Shadow
[23:12] <wolfmankurd> tweak66, oh well that makes it all easier!
[23:13] <IndyGunFreak> Soul_Shadow: i've got no problem w/ yahoo games, which uses Java... so as suggested earlier, the problem is you
[23:13] <psypointer> when trying to load my nvidia driver (installed with apt-get install nvidia-glx-180) i'm getting the following error: FATAL: error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia.ko): Invalid module format
[23:13] <psypointer> whats going wrong there?
[23:13] <andres__> IndyGunFreak, thank you for answer. I'll keep trying
[23:13] <Gho> IndyGunFreak: ad hominim attacks aren't warranted here.
[23:13] <nmvictor> jfalvarez:In your position i would find an interpid alternate install CD.their are links to its download in ubuntu homepage,probably, i hope.
[23:13] <enzo> necesito ayuda...Xd
[23:13] <Soul_Shadow> SO why is it when I downlaod it using apt-get does java6 DOES not function properly?
[23:13] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I just installed java6 and the plugun, restarted firefox, and the runescape application works perfectly.
[23:13] <IndyGunFreak> Gho: i'm not ad hominam anything.. he toldm e i didn't know what i was talking about.. there's no way java6 works w/ Jaunty, i'm just telling him he's got no clue...
[23:14] <enzo> alguien ke me ayude necesito crear una connecction odbc
[23:14] <tweak66> wolfman just not sure does that mean hda (0,5)?
[23:14] <LjL> !es | enzo
[23:14] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I did this command ls /dev |grep sda found I have sda and sda1 ...sda wont mount Reason: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?  << it was improperly shut down in windows can I force the mount?
[23:14] <IndyGunFreak> Gho: no need for ad hominem attacks.
[23:14] <Soul_Shadow> Ok GHO then WHY is mine not working?
[23:14] <jfalvarez> nmvictor: can't is a vps :|
[23:14] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[23:14] <Soul_Shadow> brand new freaking pc
[23:14] <th0r> tweak66, if you installed xp after linux, then grub is no longer on the mbr....windows replaced it
[23:14] <Eevee> Soul_Shadow: what does "not working" mean
[23:14] <Gho> IndyGunFreak: "The problem is you" is the very definition of an ad hominem attack.  Take a breath.
[23:14] <IndyGunFreak> Gho: wellt he problem is him, when it works for several people, other than him, thats not an attack, thats reality.
[23:15] <tweak66> th0r: yes i recovered it. just trying to add windows to the grub menu :)
[23:15] <Soul_Shadow> Means opisite of working as in Not working
[23:15] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: I'm thinking over here :)
[23:15] <wolfmankurd> tweak66, root (hd0,5)
[23:15] <IndyGunFreak> anyways, it appears he's beginning to accept the fact the problem is him now, not everyone else.
[23:15] <th0r> tweak66, can you get into gnome?
[23:15] <Gho> IndyGunFreak: the problem is not him, it's something with his configuration.  ANYwho..
[23:15] <tweak66> ok wolfmankurd i shall try it thank you
[23:15] <Soul_Shadow> I cannot synaptic it
[23:15] <Soul_Shadow> I cannot add/remove it
[23:15] <Eevee> U-b-u-n-t-u: sda1 is probably the drive you're running ubuntu off of right now.  if the drive doesn't show up at all then it might be shot
[23:15] <IndyGunFreak> Gho: ok.. then HE needs to configure it correctly.. its on his end
[23:15] <Soul_Shadow> I cannot even Dpkg it..
[23:15] <Gho> IndyGunFreak: we're working on that.
[23:16] <IndyGunFreak> Gho: good, but like i said, the problem is him
[23:16] <Galaxor> ubuntuserver: I can't get my wireless working using ifconfig, iwconfig, and dhclient.
[23:16] <Galaxor> Only by using network manager.
[23:16] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Eevee, it isnt shot it improperly shut down in windows
[23:16] <drbobb> hey don't you really hate it when an app silently fails to perform a function, without giving you any sort of error message? Seems that exaile tends to do that, with shoutcast streams for instance.. are you seeing such behavior too?
[23:16] <Galaxor> So I have to be in X to get it to work.
[23:16] <elad`> How do I disable a keyboard shortcut? I seem only to be able to assign them new value. What if I don't want them at all?
[23:16] <alex-weej> elad`: you can hit escape
[23:16] <Eevee> elad`: press backspace iirc
[23:16] <Gho> Soul_Shadow:  try this:  close all web browsers, and sudo apt-get --reinstall install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin
[23:17] <alex-weej> elad`: oops, yes, backspae
[23:17] <elad`> backspace did it
[23:17] <elad`> Thanks.
[23:17] <Soul_Shadow> ok this was 3rd time I installedthis :P
[23:17] <elad`> By the way, what's the shortcut for accessing the top menu's drop down lists?
[23:17] <Soul_Shadow> actually 4th
[23:17] <elad`> (ALT+F1 doesn't work.)
[23:17] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: the difference here is they we're reinstalling all the packages at once :)
[23:17] <alex-weej> elad`: wfm... weird
[23:17] <usr13> Galaxor: You should be able to use CLI tools to connect to your wireless network.  What seems to be the problem?
[23:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Eevee, it isnt shot it improperly shut down in windows and ubuntu is running on sdb
[23:17] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I did this command ls /dev |grep sda found I have sda and sda1 ...sda wont mount Reason: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?  << it was improperly shut down in windows can I force the mount?
[23:18] <alex-weej> elad`: it's in keyboard shortcuts under "Show the panel's main menu"
[23:18] <Soul_Shadow> well 2nd & 3rd time I did that to fix teh install
[23:18] <Gani> merhabalar
[23:18] <elad`> It works like alt-tab for me. No idea whuy.
[23:18] <Gani> selamun aleykum
[23:18] <enzo> irc.freenode.org
[23:18] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: /dev/sda is the actual disk; /dev/dsa1 is the partition you need to mount.
[23:18] <Soul_Shadow> ok its installed
[23:19] <Gho> Soul_Shadow:  ok, now that it's done, fire up your browser and give it a try *after* you clear your cache.
[23:19] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho, when I ls /dev |grep sda and sda1 come up
[23:19] <Eevee> U-b-u-n-t-u: he typo'd, it's sda1
[23:19] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: ^dsa^sda :p
[23:20] <Soul_Shadow> sudo apt-cache??
[23:20] <Soul_Shadow> missing sumthing
[23:20] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: in firefox, tools -> clear private data, check 'Cache'
[23:20] <U-b-u-n-t-u> my external usb shut down improperly in windows and now it wont show up on windows or linux
[23:20] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: THEN try runescape :)
[23:20] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: what happens when you mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ ?
[23:21] <elad`> ALT-F1 and ALT-Escape seem to have been taken over by "move between windows", even though the entries for "move between windows" there are set to Disabled or ALT-TAB.
[23:21] <elad`> WTF?
[23:21] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ill try
[23:21] <Soul_Shadow> FAILED
[23:21] <Gho> elad`: are you using Compiz? Check its shortcuts as well
[23:21] <Soul_Shadow> I need total removal of java6 & plugins then reinstall
[23:21] <drbobb> Galaxor: what do you want to achieve?
[23:21] <U-b-u-n-t-u> /dev/sda1 /mnt/ ........ Permission denied
[23:21] <Gho> Soul_Shadow:  okay, let's try that.  apt-get --purge remove sun-java6-jre sun-java6-bin
[23:22] <Soul_Shadow> how do I totally remove teh cache of apt-get & total remove java6?
[23:22] <U-b-u-n-t-u> sudo /dev/sda1 /mnt/ ........ /dev/sda1: command not found
[23:22] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: okay.. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt :)
[23:22] <U-b-u-n-t-u> yeah I tried
[23:22] <U-b-u-n-t-u> sudo /dev/sda1 /mnt/ ........ /dev/sda1: command not found  << was that
[23:22] <andres__> Hi everyone, can someone tell me how can I restart Xserver from console?
[23:23] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: look carefully.  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt    Not sudo /dev/sca1 /mnt
[23:23] <Gho> andres__: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:23] <Soul_Shadow> uumm restart xserver
[23:23] <Soul_Shadow> that too
[23:23] <elad`> I'm using GNOME. Never mind, dicking around with the settings seemed to jolt it back into working.
[23:23] <deadman> hey guys something freaking strange happened just now...
[23:23] <andres__> Gho, thanks :)
[23:24] <drbobb> andres_: pkill X
[23:24] <giova> CIOA!
[23:24] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho, the command went through but nothing changed?
[23:24] <giova> CIAO!
[23:24] <Gho> andres__: that'll be $8.00 :)
[23:24] <Soul_Shadow> OK that did not delete the files
[23:24] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: that means it worked.. look in /mnt; you should see the contents of the drive
[23:24] <drbobb> andres_: or sudo pkill X as the case might be
[23:24] <Soul_Shadow> It did nto try re-download teh java packages
[23:24] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: no, that removed them.
[23:24] <Eevee> Soul_Shadow: sudo aptitude clean
[23:24] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: that's what 'purge' means. :p
[23:24] <synapse> i wus wondering whut the bash command is to show all my mounted disks and thar locashon in /dev??
[23:24] <mjm52> does anyone know if /etc/init.d/ runscripts start automatically on startup, or are supposed to?
[23:25] <Gho> synapse: mount
[23:25] <deadman> i started to upgrade my system to 9.04... things downloaded... when it was installing the upgrades... it got stuck at a point where it says configuring flash-plugininstaller
[23:25] <Eevee> synapse: or df
[23:25] <deadman> what should i do
[23:25] <Soul_Shadow> then why when I redo the apt-get install it not downloading them again?
[23:25] <deadman> please help
[23:25] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho its there but sadly to say its my SATA slave drive and not the usb
[23:25] <th0r> mjm52, you need to read up on run levels
[23:25] <mjm52> ok will do that
[23:25] <mjm52> thx
[23:26] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: okay, sudo umount /mnt (if that gives an error, make sure you're not still in /mnt), then try ls /dev | grep sdb to see what the next SCSI device is
[23:26] <carick> deadman: install from scratch
[23:26] <synapse> cook thanks guys
[23:26] <th0r> mjm52, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212
[23:26] <w00tz> hi, i just pruchased a wireless card, and i plugged it in. how can i get it to work? i plugged it in, lsusb -v shows that it works fine, but why can't i see it work?
[23:26] <carick> deadman: or move to arch where there are no distribution upgrades
[23:26] <GeeksIRC58695> how to make money online
[23:26] <Eevee> Soul_Shadow: sudo aptitude clean will delete everything apt has downloaded
[23:26] <mjm52> ... reading ...
[23:26] <deadman> carick, install from scratch??? what will happen if i cancel the download.. already i think 95percent complete
[23:26] <Gho> !ot | GeeksIRC58695
[23:27] <deadman> carick, it says 5 minutes remaining... but im sure its stuck
[23:27] <Eevee> deadman: are you sure it didn't spawn a new window somewhere asking you something?
[23:27] <Soul_Shadow> 	did that I try again, I also did apt-get update & try apt-cache ??  whats the command to clear apt-cache?
[23:27] <deadman> Eevee, no no new window
[23:27] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho output was sdb sdb1 sbd2 sbd5
[23:27] <carick> deadman: idk, i never did dist upgrades, always from scratch
[23:27] <deadman> it says configuring flashinstaller
[23:28] <joaopinto> Soul_Shadow, apt-get clean
[23:28] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: that probably also was not your USB stick as that looks like a drive with three partitions on it.  try sdc
[23:28] <Soul_Shadow> did that
[23:28] <markg85> Hi all, I have an issue getting intelfb working on my noteboot (Ubuntu 9.04 x64 with intel 945GM). I've removed the intelfb from the blacklist and added: fbcon, agp, agpgart, intel_agp and intelfb to the modules that need to be loaded. That all followed by a "update-initramfs -u". Now the issue when i reboot with the video=intelfb in gruk i get: "intelfb: cannot acquire agp".... Could someone help me to get this working? Thanx.
[23:28] <Soul_Shadow> ther is a command 2 clear the cache & its not clean
[23:28] <Soul_Shadow> its sudo apt-cache ???
[23:29] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: its working fine for me w/ 32bit..
[23:29] <lucax> any ideas how can i move my /home directory to another partition??
[23:29] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho ls /dev | grep sdc returned nothing
[23:29] <Wolf23> help please
[23:29] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, how did you set it up?
[23:29] <mjm52> th0r
[23:29] <maco> Soul_Shadow: wait you mean oher than the package cache?
[23:29] <Soul_Shadow> YES! exactly
[23:29] <bonobo> lucax=> cut/past
[23:29] <mjm52> it looks like if a file is in rc5.d and starts with an S it is a startup script that is symbolically linked to an /etc/init.d runscript
[23:29] <bonobo> *paste
[23:29] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: worked out fo the box.. no probs.. 3D didn't work, but I was told to enable proposed updates in the repositories.. i did, and when i updated, it updated the intel driver and it worked fine
[23:30] <lucax> bonobo: that would not work...
[23:30] <maco> lucax: if you want to use some other partition as /home, boot from a live cd and edit the /etc/fstab on your current / so that the /home line points to the right place
[23:30] <Gho> Soul_Shadow:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archive/*deb
[23:30] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, oing to test that now.
[23:30] <th0r> lucax, first mount the second partition to a temp location, then copy all user folders from /home to the new partition. Then edit grubs menu.lst to automatically mount the new partition to /home
[23:30] <deadman> i started to upgrade my system to 9.04... things downloaded... when it was installing the upgrades... it got stuck at a point where it says configuring flash-plugininstaller.... it says 5 minutes remaining... please help what should i do?
[23:30] <xzaio> Anybody know how to enable transperency on Konsole?
[23:30] <th0r> mjm52, ?
[23:30] <maco> th0r: thats nothing to do with GRUB
[23:30] <Soul_Shadow> no the package casche  is what I ened 2 clear Apt-cache commandhere <---
[23:30] <elad`> Is the MS_WIN key, which is present on practically any non-mac keyboard these days, ignored by linux?
[23:30] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, just out of curiosity.. Where did you read that?
[23:31] <Soul_Shadow> cache*
[23:31] <th0r> maco, right...my bad...fstab
[23:31] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: 'apt-get clean' clears the package cache.
[23:31] <joaopinto> Soul_Shadow, apt-get clean
[23:31] <maco> Soul_Shadow: apt-get clean clears the package cache, the directory in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[23:31] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: honestly, i don't know.. its on my laptop.. but i read it somewhere, and it worked fine when i tried it.
[23:31] <Soul_Shadow> It does not clear everything thats my point
[23:31] <Wolf23> i am using cable modem , amule test shows me error,how can i fix it to successfull?
[23:31] <maco> Soul_Shadow: thre's also apt-get autoclean which clears everythign except newest versions of stuff
[23:31] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, and widescreen resolutions also work fine?
[23:31] <maco> Soul_Shadow: what's it leabing?
[23:31] <maco> *leaving?
[23:31] <joaopinto> Soul_Shadow, it clears everything from the cache
[23:31] <Soul_Shadow> ther is a apt-cache command I am not getting it to download teh java packages
[23:31] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: well, its not a widescreen laptop, so i've never tried them
[23:32] <maco> Soul_Shadow: ok so you want to refresh the package lists?
[23:32] <maco> Soul_Shadow: that's just apt-get update
[23:32] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, ^_^
[23:32] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: apt-cache is used to search the cache; that's ALL it does
[23:32] <Soul_Shadow> Maco stop talking
[23:32] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: http://pastebin.com/f5e8bcbe1
[23:32] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho, and the unmount command didnt unmount /mnt
[23:32] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: not unmount; umount
[23:32] <U-b-u-n-t-u> aha!
[23:32] <U-b-u-n-t-u> lol
[23:32] <Sebboh> elad`. my winkey is Mod4 on linux.  It's like an extra alt.  On a new machine I'm installing today, I've set my right winkey to be altgr and my context menu key to be compose.. so I can type little Euro symbols and stuff.
[23:32] <LjL> Soul_Shadow: it seems that everyone who tries to entertain communication with you ends up abruptly stopping it. perhaps the problem is on your side?
[23:33] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: The POSIX people had an apparent aversion to vowels :)
[23:33] <Sebboh> elad`, some programs are set up to use mod4 + some key by default--it's useful!
[23:33] <U-b-u-n-t-u> =)
[23:33] <Eevee> elad`: no, I use the windows key (super, actually) all the time.  and in fact I have a mac keyboard!
[23:34] <usser> Gho, there's a reason for all the commands missing a letter or two :)
[23:34] <elad`> I'd set it to use some more of the shortcuts that are available on Windows, myself. Win+D for Show Desktop, Win+L for locking the screen, etc.
[23:34] <maco> LjL: well given that s/he tells us to stop helping...
[23:34] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho, I had this problem once before windows shutdown the usb drive improperly and I was able to just reboot windows and the drive came up but not this time so I thought maybe since ubuntu is better with mounting etc it could force a reset?
[23:34] <deadman> oh fuck!!
[23:34] <Soul_Shadow> 3 ppl ignored.. someone HERE told me a command using apt-cache to clear it I remember this but frgot exact command
[23:34] <maco> !language | DEA7H
[23:34] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, the only intel related update is: xserver-xorg-video-intel... i don't see how that can fix something at boot...
[23:34] <maco> oh he left thats why
[23:35] <maco> DEA7H: sorry, was aiming for someone who parted
[23:35] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: apt-cache does not have any sort of functionality to modift the cache. All it can to is sort throug it for you
[23:35] <Soul_Shadow> Deadman |!language
[23:35] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: all i know, is when i updated, it worked fine.. but as i said earlier, i use 32bit, not 65
[23:35] <Soul_Shadow> Deadman | !language
[23:35] <IndyGunFreak> *64
[23:35] <maco> Soul_Shadow: not how it works, and he already parted
[23:35] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: to clear the package cache, the command to use, as many people here have told you, is 'apt-get clean'  From the manual: http://pastebin.com/f5e8bcbe1
[23:35] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, oke. gonna take the gamble and update :P
[23:35] <Sebboh> Eevee, is Super the same as mod4?
[23:35] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: get your fire extinguisher.. ;)
[23:35] <Eevee> Sebboh: yes, not sure why gnome doesn't just call it super
[23:36] <Soul_Shadow> Whatever u say... funny I did it before..
[23:36] <maco> Soul_Shadow: since youre saying that you arent seeing certain packages available to install, it sounds like you dont want to clear the package cache, but rather refresh the apt cache, and that is "apt-get update"
[23:36] <synapse> Ok so is thar a way to find say /dev/sdb1 in the format of (hd0,0) ??
[23:36] <elad`> What's with anglo-saxons and the word "fuck"? I doubt you'd object as loudly to the use of "damn". What's the difference?
[23:36] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho when I sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/ ....... I get mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt/ busy  << could this be the partition?
[23:36] <Gho> elad`: it's a much stronger, and this less acceptable, expletive.
[23:36] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, yea, i will need it to cool me down when this breaks my boot resulting in a reinstall :P
[23:37] <Eevee> synapse: if you're booting off of sda1, that's most likely (hd1,0) -- it's the drive number followed by partition number, starting from zero
[23:37] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: lol, like i said, it worked fine on 32bit.. not sure how it would go on 64
[23:37] <dtchen> U-b-u-n-t-u: you generally wouldn't mount an entire block device but a partition
[23:37] <Sebboh> Eevee, awesome (window manager) refers to it as mod4, too.
[23:37] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: are you currently in the /mnt/ directory?  if so, 'cd /' and then 'sudo umount /mnt'
[23:37] <th0r> Eevee, the partition number is one off from the /dev number
[23:37] <usser> Eevee, you mean (hd0,1)
[23:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho,  I am in the /home/me
[23:37] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, updating now. Where did you set the resolution? in menu.lst or in the modues file where intelfb is loaded
[23:37] <Eevee> er.  I do?
[23:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho, and /mnt has nothing in it
[23:38] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u:  then it was already unmounted :p
[23:38] <th0r> Eevee, sda1 would be hd0,0 I believe
[23:38] <frustrateduser> why is it so difficult to set up wireless for ubuntu!!
[23:38] <Eevee> he said sdb1
[23:38] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: again, i don't use widescreen, but when I went to sys/pref/display, my preferred res was there
[23:38] <Sebboh> elad`, in America 'fuck' is banned from TV most of the time, but 'damn' isn't.  I guess 'damn' is in the Bible or some such cruft.
[23:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho right I want to try to mount sda since sda1 worked
[23:38] <usser> Eevee, (hd1,1) then
[23:38] <LjL> !offtopic | Sebboh, elad`
[23:38] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Gho when I sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/ ....... I get mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /mnt/ busy  << could this be the partition?
[23:38] <th0r> Eevee, sdb1 would be hd1,0 I think
[23:38] <Eevee> usser: I thought grub counted partitions from 0
[23:38] <usser> Eevee, err no you're right
[23:38] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, oke. thanx so far,
[23:39] <usser> Eevee, sorry, been dealing with lots of broken c code that starts arrays from 1 lately ;)
[23:39] <Gho> U-b-u-n-t-u: if you run 'mount' you will probably see that one of the partitions on /dev/sda is already mounted elsewhere
[23:39] <ubuntu_> what?
[23:39] <U-b-u-n-t-u> yeah
[23:39] <mjm52> th0r it looks like it starts up way b4 NetworkManager (20 < 50)
[23:39] <Eevee> usser: and this is why we shouldn't raise programmers on basic
[23:39] <ubuntu_> can help me?
[23:39] <mjm52> seems to need network mgr
[23:39] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, rebooting now.
[23:39] <mjm52> will test on next reboot
[23:39] <ubuntu_> pain..
[23:40] <usser> Eevee, or pascal
[23:40] <ubuntu_> what is this?
[23:40] <ubuntu_> where i am?
[23:40] <ubuntu_> ?
[23:40] <Eevee> Sebboh: well that's wacky.  compiz and real people call it super
[23:40] <joaopinto> !ask | ubuntu_
[23:40] <ubuntu_> are u people?
[23:40] <ubuntu_> or..machine?
[23:40] <th0r> mjm52, if it needs network...that would explain it. Also, if it needs access to the network, you might have to buy it time for network manager to connect
[23:40] <BlueMe> hello, can I convert ubuntu 9.04 to Kubuntu by termial without reinstall? I guess once i did with 8.04 but i can't find nothing on google
[23:40] <usser> ubuntu_, this is jen is the internet.
[23:40] <Gho> ubuntu_: no, we're text :)
[23:40] <ubuntu_> hmm
[23:40] <zvacet> !ask | ubuntu_
[23:40] <Eevee> BlueMe: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:40] <ekimmargni> someone did that already :P
[23:40] <Gho> BlueMe: yes you can: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[23:41] <ReleaseX> any pulseaudio gurus in here?
[23:41] <ubuntu_> plz i need an ip for root somebody can help me?
[23:41] <BlueMe> Thanx Evee and thanx Gho :)
[23:41] <ubuntu_> i am a beginer
[23:41] <ubuntu_> :(
[23:41] <Gho> ubuntu_: 127.0.0.1
[23:41] <usser> ubuntu_, an ip for root?
[23:41] <ubuntu_> yes
[23:41] <ubuntu_> to find a root
[23:41] <usser> ubuntu_, what does that mean?
[23:42] <ubuntu_> i need to scan for a root
[23:42] <ubuntu_> to get a root
[23:42] <joaopinto> usser, don't feed the troll
[23:42] <ubuntu_> to brake servers
[23:42] <Gho> ubuntu_: 127.0.0.1
[23:42] <Eevee> hahaha
[23:42] <usser> oh
[23:42] <joaopinto> ubuntu_, do you have an ubuntu related question ?
[23:42] <th0r> mjm52, come to think of it, I don't think network manager connects until you log in, so I don't think you wil be able to run that script at bootup
[23:42] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, nope.. still the AGP error.
[23:42] <JoshJ> What's the recommended video card driver for the Radeon HD 2400 pro?
[23:42] <ubuntu_> i dont know what i do here
[23:42] <ubuntu_> :((((
[23:43] <ubuntu_> who are u people?
[23:43] <joaopinto> !tops | ubuntu_ troll
[23:43] <joaopinto> !ops | ubuntu_ troll
[23:43] <IndyGunFreak> markg85: can't offer any suggestions.. try ubuntuforums maybe... i know 9.04 32bit had some issues w/ the intel driver, maybe 64 does as well, adn it has not been resolved yet
[23:43] <mjm52> oooh
[23:43] <Eevee> it's as if a thousand highlights screamed out..  and then were silenced
[23:43] <Amaranth> ubuntu_: This channel is not for learning how to break into other computers
[23:43] <meoblast001> hi.. i installed some libraries in order to compile a program from source... but i don't remember the names of the libraries and i don't need them anymore.... is there a way to automatically remove them?
[23:43] <mjm52> that might be true as well
[23:43] <usser> meoblast001, nope
[23:43] <loud-loud> hi guys, is anyone facing a vertical bright lines just before the pc restarts or shuts down under nvidia graphic card?
[23:43] <markg85> IndyGunFreak, oke, no problem. Thanx for you help anyway
[23:43] <mjm52> the forums online suggest to put what the runscript runs as a gnome startup app
[23:44] <Amaranth> meoblast001: deborphan/debfoster but you have to be careful what you remove
[23:44] <Gho> meoblast001: apt-get autoremove if you used apt to install them
[23:44] <mjm52> but i'd prefer to use the runscript if possible
[23:44] <mjm52> still need to look into it some
[23:44] <Amaranth> Gho: autoremove won't work as he manually installed them
[23:44] <th0r> mjm52, that is my thought too...and start it with a 'sleep 120' or some such to give nm a chance
[23:44] <Eevee> meoblast001: you could try aptitude search ^lib and look for something not automatically installed
[23:44] <meoblast001> Gho: i did... but they weren't dependencies of anythign else in apt... i chose to install them because i was compiling the program
[23:44] <Gho> Amaranth: that's why I used the magic word 'if'  :)
[23:44] <mjm52> can't reboot right now, installing Visual Studio 2008 on a Windows 7 Virtual machine
[23:45] <Soul_Shadow> Se Gho You all failed java6 still does not work & dunno why
[23:45] <ubuntu_> or somebobi can give me an arhive to scan ip`s?
[23:45] <Soul_Shadow> any more idea's ?? :P
[23:45] <frustrateduser> exit
[23:45] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[23:45] <meoblast001> Amaranth: how does that fidn the packages?
[23:45] <Amaranth> Gho: no no, I mean even if he used apt they weren't automatically installed as a dependency of something else so they won't autoremove
[23:45] <mjm52> hate to applaud microsoft while in an ubuntu forum, but windows 7 is kinda neat
[23:45] <IndyGunFreak> still, all of us are failing, not him
[23:45] <clearscreen> the game
[23:45] <Gho> Amaranth: Ah, I sit corrected.
[23:45] <Amaranth> meoblast001: they go through every package on your system and ask you if you want to keep it
[23:45] <Soul_Shadow> YEah I run windows7 also
[23:45] <ubuntu_> hmm
[23:45] <mjm52> just in VMware for me
[23:45] <th0r> mjm52, I have read that they are reintroducing wga
[23:45] <ubuntu_> weird
[23:45] <mjm52> not good enough to be my main OS
[23:45] <loud-loud> hi guys, is anyone facing a vertical bright lines just before the pc restarts or shuts down under nvidia graphic card?
[23:45] <JoshJ> win7 is not *terrible*... but i only use it for gaming purposes
[23:45] <Amaranth> meoblast001: but if you keep ubuntu-desktop all dependencies of ubuntu-desktop will be marked as kept automatically so it isn't as bad as it sounds
[23:45] <quentusrex> Can someone help me figure out why I keep getting errors when burning a cd?
[23:45] <meoblast001> Amaranth: how will that help me? i don't know which libraries i need still and which ones i don't
[23:45] <joaopinto> !ot
[23:46] <Gho> th0r: WGA never went away :p
[23:46] <IndyGunFreak> loud-loud: i haven't
[23:46] <mjm52> WGA?
[23:46] <usser> mjm52, its great and all, not enough incentive for me to switch from linux though
[23:46] <Amaranth> meoblast001: and so on with other packages, keeping banshee will keep the mono stack, etc
[23:46] <Soul_Shadow> windows 95 is better then windows Vista LOL
[23:46] <mjm52> that's my thought too
[23:46] <joaopinto> Gho, SoftCoder , mjm52 please get on topic
[23:46] <LjL> !offtopic | Soul_Shadow
[23:46] <mjm52> ubuntu is just way too usable (and fast!) to xfer over to Windows 7
[23:46] <Amaranth> meoblast001: You end up having to decide on about 100 packages
[23:46] <loud-loud> IndyGunFreak> thx for ur reply... do u know the possible cause of this might be?
[23:46] <mjm52> and all apps (games excluded) can run in a VM
[23:47] <Soul_Shadow> no about 1000 packages easy :P
[23:47] <mjm52> it gave my disk performance a 7.7/7.9
[23:47] <eseven73> is there a program that will play a .wav file or something if a process isn't running?
[23:47] <joaopinto> mjm52, please stop !
[23:47] <IndyGunFreak> loud-loud: not a clue, like i said, it works fine for me on my PC, no probs at all.. dual screens even works perfectly... which nvidia device?
[23:47] <meoblast001> Amaranth: i'm confused though.. if i don't know what packages i chose to install nor which packages the machine needed, how will i decide?
[23:47] <helper> what's command to check in terminal the uptime of server running ?
[23:47] <mjm52> haha
[23:47] <mjm52> stop what/
[23:47] <Amaranth> mjm52: Please take the discussion about Windows elsewhere.
[23:47] <usser> mjm52, and windows just doesnt have the same tools readily available, like openvpn, ssh, aircrack, compilers, its just lacking
[23:47] <joaopinto> helper, uptime
[23:47] <Soul_Shadow> I am VERY confused.. my java6 Does NOT function dunno why
[23:47] <Amaranth> meoblast001: It'll keep the ones you need
[23:47] <joaopinto> !ot > mjm52
[23:47] <usser> helper, uptime
[23:47] <mjm52> k sorry
[23:47] <meoblast001> Amaranth: ooh
[23:47] <Guest93507> hello how can i watch mov files i ubuntu
[23:47] <Amaranth> meoblast001: If you say you want to keep ubuntu-desktop installed it'll know not to ask about anything that depends on
[23:47] <joaopinto> Soul_Shadow, describe "Does NOT function"
[23:47] <helper> usser, i want to use it in /etc/motd when someone open ssh it appear, how i can add it ?
[23:47] <Gho> Soul_Shadow: have you tried any other java applets other than runescape?
[23:48] <usser> Guest93507, with mplayer and w32codecs
[23:48] <mjm52> a little new to IRC, even tho i've known ABOUT it for years
[23:48] <joaopinto> Soul_Shadow, did you install the plugin ?
[23:48] <Amaranth> meoblast001: If you say you want to keep banshee it'll keep everything it depends on, etc
[23:48] <Soul_Shadow> it'll run for a moment hen just go white screen & I get nowhere
[23:48] <meoblast001> Amaranth: i just feel like when it comes upgrade time, i end up upgrading so many packages via the Internet because i don't uninstall enough things i don't need
[23:48] <ubugtu> can anyone tell me how to turn compiz off?
[23:48] <Soul_Shadow> yes I did
[23:48] <Amaranth> meoblast001: you mostly have to tell it what apps you want
[23:48] <Soul_Shadow> I also use windows 7 runescape is FINE
[23:48] <Eevee> helper: you could add it to the appropriate bash startup script
[23:48] <joaopinto> Soul_Shadow, what was the package name ?
[23:48] <Soul_Shadow> I said tehta already
[23:48] <Amaranth> meoblast001: I run these tools at the end of every development cycle to clean up
[23:48] <zvacet> meoblast001: witch libreries you have to install to be able to compile it must be something in install file
[23:48] <Soul_Shadow> sun-java6-jre
[23:48] <usser> helper, there's isnt an easy way to do this apart from a cron job that outputs uptime to /etc/motd every other minute
[23:48] <loud-loud> IndyGunFreak> i have the GeGorce Go 8600M GS, i tried all the drivers provided by the repos and the original Nvidia from their website, the problem presists
[23:49] <Amaranth> meoblast001: best part: it remembers your choices for next time
[23:49] <meoblast001> zvacet: i don't remember every program i've ever compiled
[23:49] <helper> usser, u mean do crontab every min uptime and then redirect it to /etc/motd ?
[23:49] <Guest93507> can someone help me i cannot watch mov files
[23:49] <Amaranth> meoblast001: tell it you want to keep ubuntu-desktop and next time you run it it won't even ask you
[23:49] <usser> helper, yes pretty much
[23:49] <Amaranth> Guest93507: what program are you using?
[23:49] <ar> hi
[23:49] <th0r> ubugtu, in System-Preferences-Appearance choose 'None' on the Visual Effects tab
[23:49] <helper> usser, do u know how to add color to /motd ?
[23:49] <evon> Please i need help with my video driver
[23:49] <ReleaseX> guest93507, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:49] <Sebboh> Soul_Shadow, I haven't been paying attention.  Has someone already told you to go into the java settings (java control panel) and enable the console so you can see what if any error you're getting when you run the app?
[23:50] <ar> i'd like to know
[23:50] <usser> helper, no, sorry
[23:50] <ar> how to set python 2.5 to default
[23:50] <Soul_Shadow> not yet
[23:50] <Amaranth> evon: what's wrong?
[23:50] <Gho> !enter | ar
[23:50] <ar> on ubuntu 9.04?
[23:50] <evon> apparently i installed the wrong one and now my screen gets all weird then freezes
[23:50] <Soul_Shadow> im running java5 & it works screw it
[23:50] <Amaranth> ar: update-alternatives maybe
[23:50] <evon> i tried xfix and it does not work
[23:50] <m3dlg> is there a command that will allowme to run throughg the default settings for video while im in live disk to fix the installed video???? i've tryed everything i can now
[23:50] <evon> i tried deleting the driver but that did not work. i was hopin it would go to vesa mode
[23:50] <Gho> !info update-alternatives | ar
[23:50] <evon> i have no more ideas
[23:50] <ar> how to set python 2.5 default on ubuntu 9.04?
[23:51] <Amaranth> ar: oops, looks like that doesn't work, you cannot set 2.5 as the default
[23:51] <chuck_>  ubugtu applications/other chose metacity
[23:51] <Soul_Shadow> I am sick of fighting with java, java5 runs fine
[23:51] <Gho> ar:  check out update-alternatives
[23:51] <evon> if i could just get the vesa to work i would just install working drivers
[23:51] <jrib> ar: you don't want to do that.  Just call python2.5 explicitly when you want it
[23:51] <Amaranth> ar: well, unless you manually change the symlink in /usr/bin
[23:51] <ar> i need it
[23:51] <Soul_Shadow> and yes indy ur a jerk & still ignored
[23:51] <Amaranth> ar: yeah, what jrib said
[23:51] <ar> to compile gnuradio 3.1.3
[23:51] <Soul_Shadow> thx all for help l8tr
[23:51] <ar> from synaptyc
[23:51] <joaopinto> ar: just replace python with python2.5, on the calling script
[23:51] <ReleaseX> guest93507, also check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[23:51] <Gho> IndyGunFreak: if he's ignoring you, how does he know what you're saying? :p
[23:51] <f4000> any idea how to install webcam lsusb:ID 0c45:6270 Microdia U-CAM PC Camera NE878 ? thanks for help
[23:52] <eseven73> is there a program that will play a .wav file or something if a process isn't running?
[23:52] <unop> !webcam | f4000, try this page first
[23:52] <IndyGunFreak> Gho: i dunno, i got over him a long time ago..lol.. and honestly, i only said we were allt he problem, i agreed w/ him...lol
[23:52] <joaopinto> eseven73, no, you will need to develop a script for that
[23:52] <evon> Amaranth: any ideas?
[23:52] <Sebboh> ... alternative install, "install console only system" menu option, debconf priority set to low (expert), no boxes checked in tasksel, and this fscking thing just installed evolution or whatever that mail thing is called.  You're fired, Ubuntu.
[23:53] <Amaranth> evon: You didn't put my nick before anything you said so I didn't see it
[23:53] <Amaranth> evon: Please explain again
[23:53] <f4000> thanks @unop, @ubottu will try
[23:53] <ar> ok thx gho
[23:54] <eseven73> joaopinto, (geeze took me 4 times to tab to your nick lol ) anyways, there's a app called iwatch that does it I believe, but it's beyond confusing, was hoping there was something easier maybe, Ill ask in #Bash then, thanks :)
[23:54] <m3dlg> is there a command that will allowme to run throughg the default settings for video while im in live disk to fix the installed video???? i've tryed everything i can now
[23:54] <tyche> Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter 141 is published.  A BIG thanks to the UWN Team for all it's support and help while johnc4510 was out of contact.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue141
[23:54] <ar> !info update-alternatives
[23:54] <Amaranth> ar: That won't do what you want
[23:54] <evon> Amaranth:  apparently i installed the wrong one and now my screen gets all weird then freezes. i tried xfix and it does not work. i tried deleting the driver but that did not work. i was hopin it would go to vesa mode.  if i could just get the vesa to work i would just install working drivers.
[23:54] <helper> usser, like that ? * * * * * sudo uptime : echo > "uptime" /etc/motd
[23:55] <Amaranth> ar: You can't easily do what you want and doing it will probably break something else
[23:55] <Gho> ar: try 'man update-alternatives'
[23:55] <Shdow> hello all....noob here
[23:55] <Gho> ar: not in here, but at your terminal :)
[23:55] <Shdow> well sorta
[23:55] <ar> ok
[23:55] <ar> sorry :D
[23:55] <Gho> ar: no worries!
[23:55] <Amaranth> evon: boot in recovery mode, mv your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to your home dir, and reboot
[23:55] <Amaranth> evon: If it's an nvidia or fglrx driver that'll make it not use it
[23:55] <ar> have i to install update-alternatives or is it installed by default?
[23:56] <usser> eseven73, while [ 1 ] ; do if [ `ps -Al | grep app` == "" ] ; then `cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp` fi done
[23:56] <nymphonix> how would I auto mount something at start up, but after my wireless kicks in? I'm trying to automount to my hp mediavault via wlan.
[23:56] <Amaranth> ar: Installed by default but it doesn't do python
[23:56] <Gho> ar:  it should be there by default
[23:56] <setuid> Where does one set keybindings in metacity/compiz? I want to set ctrl-alt-b for example, to launch a black xterm
[23:56] <Amaranth> setuid: System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[23:56] <Amaranth> setuid: Oh, wait, for something like that you have to use gconf-editor or ccsm
[23:56] <pw-toxic> hi, i know this is the wrong channel for this, but i'm getting really frustrated:  can anyone tell me, how i can reset the line numbering of lstlisting  in latex?  when i have several lstlisting with line numbering, the line numbering doesnt start by 1 but with the last line + 1 of the previous lstlisting
[23:56] <eseven73> usser, how does that play a sound?
[23:56] <unop> usser,  if ps -Al | grep app; then ...  # will suffice without the need to compare output
[23:56] <setuid> Amaranth, cssm?
[23:57] <evon> Amaranth: if i move the xorg what will boot when I turn on the computer
[23:57] <AnnonyMouse1> hi guys. anyone here use namp/nmapfe/zanmap? trying to make use of typography map, but not available here. any idea why?
[23:57] <setuid> Amaranth, nothing like that in any repo, by that name
[23:57] <Amaranth> evon: If you move the config file away it'll autodetect something
[23:57] <n_nm> hi all, i have some probleme with lamp
[23:57] <rww> !ccsm | setuid
[23:57] <usser> unop, yea you're right
[23:57] <the1corrupted> Hey, anyone know how to get a ps/2 Synaptics/Alps touchpad working?  I'm having difficulty.
[23:57] <Amaranth> evon: Most likely either nv, ati, or vesa depending on your card
[23:57] <Sebboh> now there's no meny.lst in /target/boot/grub .. ugh.
[23:58] <setuid> Amaranth, I've got Compiz enabled, but they steal almost every possible keyboard combination for a bunch of useless eye-candy
[23:58] <usser> eseven73, cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp that just plays whitenoise, but you can use whitenoise
[23:58] <AnnonyMouse1> the1corrupted: there are some guides under the mactel section of ubuntuforums
[23:58] <evon> Amaranth: ok. I just moved the file. i'm rebooting now
[23:58] <usser> eseven73, question is when do you stop playing, cause cat /dev/random never returns control to the script and even if an app is restarted it'll keep playing
[23:59] <evon> Amaranth: it's still doing the same thing
[23:59] <n_nm> who use lamp here ?
[23:59] <joaopinto> !ask | n_nm
[23:59] <Amaranth> evon: hrm
[23:59] <Gho> n_nm: I illuminate my apartment with several lamps. Bit OT though.
[23:59] <evon> Amaranth: what sucks too is that the cdrom on my laptop broke so i can't even reinstall linux easily
[23:59] <Amaranth> evon: what driver did you install and how?
[23:59] <setuid> I see this still isn't fixed, 5 years later: "perl: warning: Setting locale failed"