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naliothdtchen: i'm in no hurry, i'm just reporting what could be a serious issue00:02
JontheEchidnawharg, boost borkage on kdepim00:31
Riddellmeh00:32
RiddellI'm not (re)test building these you may have noticed00:32
JontheEchidnakdesdk fails on boost too00:41
JontheEchidnaI suppose I should investigate since my name is on the package00:41
Riddelland I /still/ have qt linking here00:41
JontheEchidnao.o00:42
JontheEchidnabug 37396200:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 373962 in boost1.35 "merge boost1.35 1.35.0-10 from debian unstable (main) - mpl headers not compiling" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37396200:43
Riddellclever chap that a|wen00:47
Riddelluploaded01:03
JontheEchidnanice01:10
JontheEchidnaI hope, at least, that kdetoys builds :P01:11
dtchenRiddell: oh, regarding alpine+topal last week: i vaguely (mis?)remember you mentioned being an alpine user. i'm submitting fixes for topal (a gnupg glue), hence the question.01:13
Riddelldtchen: question?01:16
dtchenRiddell: yeah, i was wondering if you use both alpine and topal01:17
Riddelloh no, I actually went back to using mutt01:17
dtchenok, answers that. thanks!01:18
Riddellthere was stuff I realised I couldn't do in alpine01:18
JontheEchidnathe biggest diff in our packages between debian is the changelog01:27
JontheEchidnamaybe we should consider dropping the KDE3 portion?01:28
RiddellJontheEchidna: of what?01:36
Riddellchangelog in kdetoys?01:37
JontheEchidnain most of the kde package01:37
JontheEchidnas01:37
JontheEchidnait bloats the diff up by 2,000 lines at least01:38
Riddellmm, could do01:38
Riddellfeels like wiping history though01:38
JontheEchidnayeah...01:38
dtchenyou'll still have the existing changelog delta from previous release(s), tho'01:38
Riddellharder to get at01:39
dtchentrue01:39
Riddellwe might lose something useful, we have plenty of patches introduced in the kde 3 era01:39
Riddellsomething like kdetoys though would be less important01:40
nixternalRiddell: http://kde.pastey.net/113984  <- for kiconedit to fix bug 335743 and bug 18001002:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 335743 in kiconedit "Error trying to save or save-as anything" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33574302:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 180010 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Lenovo Y410 No sound Ubuntu gusty" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18001002:16
nixternalkde bug 18001002:16
ubottuKDE bug 180010 in general "Kiconedit save error Fehler beim speichern von" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18001002:16
* Riddell drows in build failures02:28
Riddell1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file kiconediticon.cpp.rej02:30
Riddellnixternal: a debdiff is much more useful though02:31
Riddelloh, you wrote the patch02:32
Riddellisn't there a kiconedit maintainer to review it?02:32
Riddelltime for me to sleep anyway, guid nicht all02:32
nixternalRiddell: right, that is an upstream patch02:34
imbrandongnight Riddell02:34
nixternalRiddell: I haven't found said person for kiconedit...it seems a community venture now with commits for over the past year plus02:34
nixternalthat has been broken for a year or more02:34
tdappleWill kubuntu always stay pretty much a vanilla kde?02:59
ScottKtdapple: Hard to say.  There are proposals that it not that are to be discussed at the next UDS.03:00
tdappleI hope it stays vanilla, or if they change it make it more modular like kdemod for arch03:01
ScottKI'm hoping for vanilla or better.  If we can avoid changes that make it worse, it's a win.03:02
tdappletrue....I am trying to find a distro and stick with it...Kubuntu is nice since it's mainly vanilla and most things actually work...well after going to kde 4.2.303:03
ScottKThere is a commitment to maintain vanilla as an option is they do make some changes, so I think you should be reasonably safe.03:04
ScottKis/if03:04
tdapplecool03:05
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a|wenthx Riddell ... i thought someone would need a working boost again sometime :)04:31
nixternalfor karmic, change the kde4.mk in rules to debian-qt-kde.mk?04:59
imbrandonnixternal: yes05:05
nixternalto late :p05:06
imbrandonand depend on pkg-kde-tools05:07
imbrandonnixternal: too late ?05:07
imbrandonnixternal: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20090502.191539.246f7aa3.pt-BR.html05:08
nixternalalready made the change and went forward :)05:10
nixternalI brainfarted when asking the question and knew the answer already05:11
tomsdalehi, I have an NVidia NVS 160m Gfx with 256MB Ram - in the Xorg.0.log it is reported with (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes05:12
tomsdaleWould this lead to problems if the RAM is reported incorrectly? I do experience random crashes when e.G. loading a 200em header in firefox.05:13
nixternalI think I have uploaded more packages today than I have total in the past 4 years :)05:49
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nixternalthanks for the kudos apachelogger :)08:03
nixternalgimme kudos on ohloh you ninjas!08:03
nixternaldon't know why I never signed up there before...I still don't know the purpose of it yet08:04
nixternalerr, you didn't give me kudos apachelogger, I gave you kudos :p08:04
Riddellkudos nixternal!08:07
nixternal:)08:07
imbrandongnight all08:18
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Tonio_hi there09:50
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Riddellbonjour Tonio_09:51
Tonio_Riddell: since I have you here... I noticed a little problem with pkg-kde-tools...09:52
Tonio_Riddell: I have a package that ftbfs for weird reasons when kde4.mk works09:52
Tonio_Riddell: the issue seems to be with .h file include that fails at some points...09:52
Tonio_Riddell: that's in the polki-qt package (should be NEW right now)09:53
_StefanS_Tooonnnnnnnniooooooo!09:54
_StefanS_:D09:54
Tonio_also, would be nice if can approve that one since k3b dep waits in the archives :)09:54
Tonio__StefanS_: hey :) how are you old friend ?09:54
_StefanS__StefanS_: ah, up and down you know09:55
_StefanS__StefanS_: how about you ?09:55
_StefanS_Tonio_: :D09:55
_StefanS_I must be tired.09:55
Tonio_hehe09:55
_StefanS_Tonio_: still busy with work and stuff?09:56
RiddellTonio_: I should approve it even though it fails to build?09:56
Tonio_I'm fine.... searching for a new job activelly so half away from kubuntu right now09:56
_StefanS_ah ok09:56
Tonio_Riddell: it'll work, since I didn't switch to pkg-kde-tools because of that09:56
Tonio_Riddell: I'll try to fix then will switch09:56
_StefanS_Tonio_: system administration stuff, or what kind of work?09:56
Tonio__StefanS_: sysadmin probably, but not especially free software...09:57
Tonio__StefanS_: a proprietary/free mix would be nice09:57
_StefanS_Tonio_: alright09:57
_StefanS_Tonio_: I actually went into magento lately, seems there's alot of business going on in that09:57
_StefanS_Tonio_: php5 oo09:57
Tonio__StefanS_: hum I'm not a developper, although I know php a bit :)09:58
_StefanS_Tonio_: but eventually some windows/unix administration in between09:58
Tonio_yup09:58
Tonio__StefanS_: do they work in france ?09:58
_StefanS_Tonio_: thats the kind of mix I like09:58
_StefanS_Tonio_: nawp, its local in denmark09:58
Tonio_hehe :)09:58
_StefanS_Tonio_: but I would be glad to recommended you somewhere if the option comes up09:59
_StefanS_Tonio_: I havent been especially active in kubuntu development lately, maybe I should give up the membership ?09:59
_StefanS_Tonio_: to make place for someone else09:59
Tonio__StefanS_: bah most ubuntu members aren't active10:00
_StefanS_uhm ok10:00
_StefanS_not too important then10:00
Tonio__StefanS_: yup10:00
_StefanS_well If I got asked, I would definitely make it happen10:00
_StefanS_Tonio_: if you need some vm's for testing stuff, let me know. I have some ressources handy10:01
_StefanS_Tonio_: regarding you work situation, or explore new things10:01
_StefanS_if that can help.10:01
Tonio__StefanS_: I have everything I need on my laptop :)10:01
_StefanS_Tonio_: still that old mac book ? :)10:02
_StefanS_Tonio_: or did you get upgraded ?10:02
Tonio__StefanS_: yep :)10:02
Tonio_old ? it's 2 year old, not more10:02
_StefanS_Tonio_: the magsafe didn't toast you yet?10:02
_StefanS_Tonio_: heard there has been all sorts of issues10:02
Tonio_never had any problem with it10:02
_StefanS_Tonio_: how do you live with the keyboard and one mouse button ?10:03
Tonio__StefanS_: well I learned the keyboard, nothing else :)10:03
Tonio__StefanS_: the one mouse ? the touchpad is multitouch10:03
Tonio__StefanS_: so I can basically middle and right click with ease10:03
RiddellTonio_: is polkit-qt in KDE SVN?10:03
_StefanS_Tonio_: yea but thats with a delay, right ?10:03
Riddellit's missing a GPL copy for the examples/ directory10:04
_StefanS_Riddell: thanks for the stickers you sent a while back :)10:04
Tonio_Riddell: afaik it's been merged latelly but I'm unsure10:04
Tonio_Riddell: atm they've been releasing separare tarballs10:04
_StefanS_Riddell: I've been putting them on my kids so they grow knowing only about kubuntu10:04
Tonio__StefanS_: no delay here, it's pretty real time10:04
_StefanS_uhm ok10:04
Tonio__StefanS_: really it's very comfortable to use, even with linux10:05
Riddell_StefanS_: cool!10:05
Tonio_Riddell: right about the licence... will look at kdesvn about where it is right now10:05
_StefanS_Tonio_: ah I guess I will go with new thinkpad soon, they work too well for me switch10:05
RiddellTonio_: it's in kdesupport, I'll add the GPL10:06
* Tonio_ dreams of a lenovo x301 :)10:06
_StefanS_x301?10:06
Tonio_Riddell: great10:06
Tonio__StefanS_: the very best laptop ever10:06
Tonio__StefanS_: imagin a macbook pro inside a macbook air ;)10:06
Tonio__StefanS_: that's pretty much what it is :)10:06
_StefanS_Tonio_: thats a puny little laptop10:06
_StefanS_Tonio_: 13" screen ? hope you got glasses10:07
_StefanS_oh my.10:07
Tonio__StefanS_: bah it's perfect size imho10:07
Tonio_:)10:07
_StefanS_Tonio_: damn, did you see that crashtest they did with it ? haha10:08
_StefanS_Tonio_: still works after crashing a wall10:08
Tonio__StefanS_: nope !! url ?10:08
_StefanS_Tonio_: http://www.laptop4u.dk/varer.php?serie=LenovoX30110:08
Tonio__StefanS_: bah that's a thinkopad, they're known to be unbreakable10:08
_StefanS_Tonio_: video in the midsection, right10:08
_StefanS_Tonio_: just look at the wiggliling in slowmo, thats some serious tests for the soldering/board design :D10:09
apacheloggerohhh10:34
apacheloggernixternal: thanks for reminding me of the name :D10:34
apacheloggerthe other day I was already wondering about it :P10:34
\shmoins11:06
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 359517 ... last comment11:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 359517 in kdeedu "kstars does not support indi" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35951711:07
apachelogger\sh: yo! baby released yet?11:07
* apachelogger is awfuly out-of-date on planet matters :D11:07
\shapachelogger: check my page ,-) then you know ;)11:07
* apachelogger diggs through 3 browsers to find bookmark11:08
\shapachelogger: www.sourcecode.de ? ;)11:08
apacheloggerright, I knew it was something catchy ;-)11:08
apachelogger\o/11:08
apachelogger\sh: congrats11:08
apacheloggerubercongrats actually, that baby is ubercute11:09
\shapachelogger: thx :) and what about you? wehrdienst ended? :)11:09
apacheloggeroctober that is11:09
apacheloggerzivildienst lasts 9 months11:09
\shapachelogger: so everything is now in place that you can deal again with developmentß :)11:10
apacheloggerwell, only development with long-term results, I am not enough around to do KDE relese packaging for example11:11
\shapachelogger: at least you are back :) and I'm trying now to catch up with everything I missed in the last month11:11
* apachelogger wouldn't bother TBH :P11:12
\shhehe11:13
Sput\sh: \o/11:14
Sputwelcome back :)11:14
apacheloggeroh11:14
Nightrose\sh: \o/11:14
Nightrosehows te family doing?11:15
* apachelogger geht verrückt11:15
Nightrose*the11:15
apacheloggerkubotu: np11:15
kubotuapachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 38 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more11:15
apacheloggerhm11:15
apacheloggerah, broken11:15
Nightroseapachelogger: who's going to package amarok 2.1 beta 2 for kubuntu?11:15
apacheloggerno clue11:15
\shNightrose: everything is fine...yesterday we went home from hospital..baby is very well and mommy too :)11:15
Nightrosegreat :)11:16
Nightroseapachelogger: i'd like to give the package some testing if possible before release11:16
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ^^11:18
apacheloggerNightrose: did you use the refactored release script11:18
Nightroseapachelogger: i used whatever is in bzr11:19
Nightroseupdated right before tagging11:19
apacheloggerrefactored version is not in the main branch11:19
NightroseOo11:19
apacheloggerbecause you didn't test it :P11:19
Nightrosewhy not?11:19
apacheloggerclearly that is a loop11:19
Nightrosemeh....11:19
Nightroseyou should have told me11:20
* apachelogger writes a testscript11:20
apacheloggerNightrose: I told you :P11:20
Nightroseno you didn't ;-)11:20
apachelogger-.-11:20
apachelogger[15:06:20] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong11:30
apachelogger[15:06:22] <apachelogger> ah11:30
apachelogger[15:06:31] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I uploadered the refactored release script11:30
apachelogger[15:06:54] <Mamarok> apachelogger!11:30
apachelogger[15:07:50] <apachelogger> Nightrose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor give it a try, meet it, discuss it, improve it, brand it, just do something with it :P11:30
apacheloggerNightrose: I told yer!11:30
Nightroseapachelogger: i didn't get that :/11:30
apachelogger[15:08:01] <apachelogger> Mamarok: how are you?11:31
apachelogger[15:08:09] <apachelogger> how is the sprint going?11:31
apachelogger[15:08:14] <Mamarok> fine, how are you?11:31
apachelogger[15:08:16] <Nightrose> apachelogger: hehe cool - i'll give it a try when i am back home11:31
apacheloggeryou more liek forgot it :P11:31
Nightrosehmmmmm11:31
Nightroseor I thought that was the same I had already checked out11:31
Nightrosemeh11:32
apacheloggerohh11:36
apacheloggerNightrose: works very nicely for amarok11:36
apacheloggerwell, obviously I didn't test tagging11:36
Nightroseok cool11:36
Nightrose*hug*11:36
apacheloggerit removes incomplete translations though11:36
apacheloggerpackagernotification is a bit empty IMHO11:37
apacheloggerNightrose: just get the branch and run ./amarok2.rb --no-tag11:37
Nightrosewhat's missing in the packagernotification?11:38
apacheloggerdunno11:38
apacheloggercurrently it lists md5sum, sha1sum, amount of documentations and a list of them, same for translations11:38
apacheloggeralso note that you can set everything via arguments or use a code line in the release script11:39
apacheloggersee http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/release-refactor.ogv11:39
apachelogger... this also allows to run the script on a machine without kdialog ;-)11:41
Nightroseahhh you mean in the script..11:42
Nightrosei though you were talking about my email11:42
Nightrose:D11:42
* Nightrose checks out the script11:42
apacheloggerlol11:42
Nightroseapachelogger: i get a few of those:11:54
Nightrosesvn: URL 'svn+ssh://lydia@svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-kde4/ca@valencia/messages/extragear-multimedia' non-existent in that revision11:54
Nightrose(with different country codes)11:55
ghostcubeapachelogger: you know many peoples or can you may give the link i posted in kubuntu-de to all you know11:55
ghostcubewe need help in this11:55
Nightroseapachelogger: and why do i get stuff like: A    l10n/libk3bdevice.po11:55
Nightroseor kaffeine11:55
apacheloggerspeed11:55
Nightrosek11:56
apacheloggeropening svn connections takes most of the time ages11:56
apacheloggerand keeping stuff like kipi in mind, which got more than 2 desktop files the difference is about 300%11:56
Nightrosek11:56
Riddellnhandler: ok if I take the kdeartwork merge?12:50
nhandlerSure Riddell12:58
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: so, amarok 2.1 b2 and kstars?12:58
JontheEchidnai can haz tarball?12:58
NightroseJontheEchidna: amarok beta 2 tarball is on ktown13:04
Nightrosedo you have access?13:04
JontheEchidnanein13:05
Nightroseok sec - getting a link for you13:05
Nightrosesee query13:06
* JontheEchidna wonders what the chances of mysql 5.1 being in main this cycle are13:07
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Quintasan|schoolhiho13:14
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Nightroseapachelogger: release script seems to be ok13:19
JontheEchidnawharghlbrl, archive troubles again:13:28
JontheEchidnaThe following packages have unmet dependencies:13:28
JontheEchidna  libqt4-dev: Depends: libpq-dev but it is not going to be installed13:28
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apacheloggerNightrose: ok, thx13:38
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: webdev-kde4 is webdev now?13:46
JontheEchidnaI think that's what we were doing, with webdev becoming webdev-kde313:46
apacheloggerwell13:47
apacheloggerdid we? :P13:47
* apachelogger is updating batgetorig13:47
JontheEchidnalooks like nobody took the webdev merge13:48
apacheloggeruh13:48
apachelogger4.2.85 is gonna be fun again :D13:49
apachelogger.!!!~~~~>Bat get WARNING: ONE OR MORE PATCHES DON'T APPLY PROPERLY13:49
JontheEchidnaalso phonon is busted in the archive13:49
JontheEchidnacan't include Phonon/Global13:49
JontheEchidnaboost got fixed though13:50
apacheloggerbusted is state of the art for phonon :P13:50
JontheEchidna../../../applets/bball/bball.h:35:25: error: Phonon/Global: No such file or directory13:51
apacheloggerQt's Phonon build doesn't seem to install the Phonon/Global header,13:53
apacheloggerthis patch allows kdemultimedia to compile13:53
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_04_qt_phonon.diff13:53
apacheloggerprobably need something similar to that13:53
apacheloggerthough, I would think that fixing qt's phonon would be of better use :P13:53
Riddellthiago seemed to suggest the patch is the better approach for some reason13:55
apacheloggerwell, global sounds global, if so it would indeed make sense to not use it13:55
Riddellit's a one line file which includes that other one13:57
apacheloggerRiddell: did you talk to Vir about it?13:58
Riddellno he's not on IRC, hopefully he'll respond on kde-multimedia13:58
Riddellkdelibs5-dev seems uninstallable suddenly in the buildds13:59
Riddellthis is not going to help with getting in a state to prepare for alpha 1 tomorrow14:00
\shRiddell: what's the reason to push out an alpha at this early stage?14:14
* \sh really needs to catch up with all the mails14:14
JontheEchidnaanybody know what james meant in bug 374228? It looks like it was synced already14:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 374228 in strigi "Sync strigi 0.6.5-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37422814:16
davmor2\sh: what makes you think it's early ;)14:16
\shdavmor2: 2009-04-24 and 2009-05-12 it's not that long ago ;)14:17
Riddell\sh: to ensure things aren't entirely broken?  we always do one about now14:18
Sputhmm... when's the karmic version freeze?14:18
* Sput should put out quassel-0.5.0 before that14:18
\shSput: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule14:19
Sputah14:19
davmor2\sh: yeah but you're talking about Ubuntu time here.  So that's like 2 months worth of coding time :)14:19
SputFeatureFreeze, right?14:19
SputAug 27th then14:19
Sputwell, that's a bit time at least :)14:19
\shRiddell: hmm..never experienced that...could be that I'm just out of business for some weeks now :(14:20
davmor2\sh: plus it's useful to get a baseline for uds so folks can see how broken, erm wonderful, the new release is :)14:21
\shdavmor2: ok..point taken ;)14:22
james_whi14:24
james_wshould kde-l10n from Debian be synced?14:24
Riddellnope14:24
Riddelljames_w: here at Kubuntu we have an avertion to 250MB source packages14:25
james_wthought so14:25
james_wthanks14:25
Riddellat least I do after it nearly delayed the first Kubuntu release14:25
james_wI'll blacklist it as well then14:25
Riddelloh thanks, this'll be the first cycle it's been in unstable with that name14:26
JontheEchidnajames_w: oh, about the strigi sync, it looks like it's already been synced? I think the bug just was neglected to be closed14:28
JontheEchidnaunless I'm missing something14:29
james_wJontheEchidna: not sure. The scripts just threw it back in my face14:29
james_wperhaps I interpreted that wrong14:29
james_wrmadison says it hasn't14:29
JontheEchidnahttps://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/0.6.5-114:29
james_wok14:30
james_wplease close the bug14:30
JontheEchidnaok, just wanted to make sure :)14:30
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Quintasan|irssigrr14:52
Quintasan|irssiquassel is dead under kde-nightly14:52
Quintasan|irssikde-nightly-kdepim_20090508+svn965433-0neon1_amd64.deb fails to install14:53
james_wit appears that amarok and juk are keeping taglib in main14:58
james_wtaglib was synced, and has new Build-Depends14:58
james_wwhich means it will fail to rebuild without MIRs for those14:59
james_wtherefore I come here to nag about MIRs14:59
james_wif anyone sees any flaws in my logic then please redirect me accordingly14:59
james_wit seems to be a trio of librcd, librcc and enca15:01
Riddellyour logic seems logical15:05
Quintasan|irssilol15:06
Riddellwe also need a MIR for kdenetwork15:07
james_wplus there is libindi/libfli1 to sort out16:12
james_wthough there may be no actual MIRs required there as indi is in main16:13
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Riddellhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportEnca  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcd https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcc17:49
Riddelljames_w: ^^17:49
james_wnice, thanks17:49
james_wthey need ubuntu-mir subscribed first though17:50
Riddelldone17:50
james_wthanks17:51
JontheEchidnawhee, file conflict bug reports for karmic coming in18:04
JontheEchidnaIf people are running Karmic they should at least check for duplicates :/18:04
apacheloggercan rsync sync from https?18:06
Riddellno, it syncs from rsync18:06
apachelogger:S18:06
apacheloggerppas need to provide rsync access :D18:06
apachelogger:/18:10
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: the ninjas ppa needs a good cleanup18:15
JontheEchidnaLunchpad is still doing that timeout thing for me :/ I suppose I can use the workaround18:17
apacheloggernasty thingy18:18
apacheloggerman18:18
JontheEchidna...except the delete page is timing out too18:18
apacheloggeruse another browser18:18
apacheloggerapt-mirror clearly doesn't support https + auth18:19
apacheloggermust not be ruby18:19
lex79I need advice for the name of new plasmoid package18:22
lex79plasma-widget-drop-to-imageshack18:22
lex79or18:22
JontheEchidnaplasma-widget-drop2ftp is what we did for the ftp one18:23
lex79plasma-widget-droptoimageshack18:23
lex79or upstream name18:23
lex79plasma-widget-drop2imageshack18:23
JontheEchidnahmm18:23
lex79one, two or three? :)18:23
Riddellplasma-widget-drop2imageshack if upstream is drop2imageshack18:23
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: is that make thingy backported yet?18:24
lex79okey18:24
apacheloggerhm... that apt-mirror thingy is weird indeed, it auths properly but doesn't know it auths thus gets a wrong cache directory :D18:25
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: the makestatus applet? I filed the backport request less than an hour ago18:25
JontheEchidnaso soon :)18:25
apacheloggerslow that is :P18:26
lex79uhmmm, no..upstream is drop to imageshack, so plasma-widget-droptoimageshack18:26
lex79JontheEchidna: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop+To+Imageshack?content=10459218:26
lex79http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop2Imageshack?content=10088118:27
lex79LoL18:27
lex79the first is better18:27
JontheEchidnait seems that whenever X crashes at all it takes down ksmserver with it (bug 332811)18:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 332811 in kdebase-workspace "ksmserver crashed with SIGSEGV in <signal handler called>()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33281118:27
JontheEchidnamy question is, should it be reasonable to expect ksmserver to crash when X crashes?18:28
apachelogger*shrug*18:29
apacheloggerksmserver probably should detect that X died and quit18:29
apacheloggerrather than running into a bogus segment and go down like titanic18:29
JontheEchidnait looks like it is dying as it is catching X's crash signal18:29
apacheloggerwhere does that signal come from?18:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: anyway, talk to some kdelibs dood in kde-devel18:30
apacheloggeruh uh uh18:43
apacheloggerthere is a bug18:43
a|wena bug? oh, how could that happen :P18:46
apacheloggerpython!18:46
apachelogger:P18:46
apacheloggerPackages* files are all b0rked in private ppas18:46
apacheloggerno wonder apt-mirror ain't getting any grip on packages :D18:47
a|wenheh18:48
apacheloggerand no cprov to fix it around :|18:48
apacheloggerryanakca: any news on the wiki theme?18:51
* apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna in the nose18:54
apacheloggerwhen I said cleanup I didn't mean empty it :P18:54
JontheEchidnawhat did we need that was still in there?18:58
lex79http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-droptoimageshack18:58
apacheloggeranything, I was looking into mirror capabilties for binary QA :P18:59
apacheloggerkubotu: np18:59
kubotuapachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 45 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more18:59
apacheloggerstill broken18:59
apacheloggerNightrose: is beta1's last.fm login broken or something?19:01
Nightroseyes19:01
Nightroseshould be fixed with beta 219:01
apacheloggercool19:01
apacheloggerdid they change protocal again?19:01
Nightrosedunno what the problem was exactly sorry19:02
apacheloggerwell, it worked until 45 hours ago :D19:02
* apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna into packaging b219:02
Nightroseumm then something else is wrong19:02
Nightrosealready packaged ;-)19:02
apacheloggeruhm19:02
apacheloggerwhere?19:02
Nightrosehis ppa19:02
apacheloggerhmmmmmmmmmmmmm19:03
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: why not ninjas?19:03
* apachelogger would find that more useful :P19:03
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a|wen2.0.90 = beta1 ?19:06
Nightroseyes19:07
apacheloggerOo19:07
apacheloggercrash on startup19:07
apachelogger\o/19:07
Nightrosebah19:07
Nightrosedamn19:07
Nightroseapachelogger: do you have qtscriptbindings installed?19:08
apacheloggeryus19:08
Nightroseand at the right place?19:08
apacheloggerit happens before that crap gets initialized19:08
a|wen~np19:08
kubotuawenning is listening to "The Scientist" by Coldplay [A Rush of Blood to the Head, 2006]; see http://www.last.fm/user/awenning for more19:08
apacheloggerright after it loads sqlcollection.so19:08
apacheloggermaybe my db is busted19:08
Nightrosehmmmmm19:08
a|wenhmm, beta1 looks to work fine with last.fm here19:08
apacheloggera|wen: yeah, I just noticed that I downgraded to 2.0.219:09
a|wen:P19:09
apacheloggerwhich of course raises the question why 2.0.2 fails to lastfmify19:09
Nightroseah well then the problem was in 2.0.2 and not beta 119:09
Nightroseone of them had problems19:09
apacheloggerhuh19:10
apacheloggerhuuuuuuuh19:10
apacheloggerso, I moved my amarok data folder => still crash19:10
apacheloggermoved back and removed all amarok configs => still crash19:10
Nightrosenot good19:10
apacheloggerwhat do we know now: all b0rked19:10
Nightroseapachelogger: can you show Nikolaj a backtrace?19:10
apacheloggerNeed to get 109MB of archives.19:11
* Nightrose needs to do some uni stuff to get anything done at all today19:11
apacheloggerwooohooo19:11
apacheloggerapt-mirror is worky19:11
apacheloggernot so good though19:13
apacheloggerit will retry every package no matter whether the md5sum changed or not19:14
apacheloggerwhich is IMHO a waste of time and a waste of bandwith19:14
Nightrosefolks anyone here who can help me make my firefox show useful programs for "open with" in the download dialog?19:22
Nightroseit being empty is meh19:23
apacheloggerinstall gnome19:23
apacheloggerthough that might indeed suggest gnome apps instead19:24
apacheloggerI think the only feasable solution is not to use firefox19:24
Nightroseyea - not actually what i want ;-)19:24
Nightrosenot an option either ;-)19:24
apacheloggerthough Tonio was looking into working around the problem19:24
apacheloggerdunno if he got anything useful yet19:24
apacheloggerit certainly is a PITA to get that working at all19:24
Nightroseok i'll poke him19:24
Nightrosethx19:24
seeleScottK: ping19:40
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apachelogger!info apturl20:49
ubottuapturl (source: apturl): install packages using the apt protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.3ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 17 kB, installed size 228 kB20:49
apacheloggerTscheesy:20:49
Tscheesyyes.. usefull, is worth to get into the Distri IMO20:50
apacheloggerhmmmmmmmmmmmmm20:50
apacheloggera) it is gnome-only20:50
apacheloggerb) it should already include into KDE20:51
apacheloggerbug 22762220:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 227622 in apturl "apturl protocol support for KDE" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22762220:51
apacheloggeralso see bug 29353320:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 293533 in apturl "Better KDE (non-gnome) support for apturl (Was: shouldnt hard depend on synaptic (KDE))" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29353320:52
* Lure notices svn commit for hidden network fix in plasma-network-management, hopes someones packages it for jaunty20:53
a|wenLure: commit rev.?20:53
Tscheesyapachelogger :  so a protocol seems still be necesary for apt20:53
Lurea|wen: 96660820:54
apacheloggerwell20:54
apacheloggersec20:54
Lurea|wen: wstephanson completely re-did hidden stuff20:54
* Lure has hopes...20:54
a|wenLure: well, then you are committet to a day of pure testing of it ;)20:55
apacheloggerapturl: /usr/share/services/apturl.protocol20:55
apacheloggerTscheesy: it's KDE 3 only20:56
Tscheesyah20:56
janmaltehttp://forum.kde.org/kontact-kaddressbook-shows-annoying-email-popup-t-46600.html20:56
Lurea|wen: I will test my hidden+wpa2-enterprise+peap+mschapv2 - this is what I have at work20:56
janmalteWhen will a fixed be released?20:56
apacheloggerwhich is funny though :D20:56
Lurea|wen: and wpa2-personal at home20:56
janmalteit is more then just annoying20:56
apacheloggerthe fix was committed in september20:56
apacheloggerat which time we had no KDE 3 anymore :P20:56
apacheloggerso it actually was not fixed at any point :P20:57
a|wenLure: if you can get those two to work, i'll be hugely impressed :)20:57
a|wenbut i'm an optimist anyway20:57
apacheloggerTscheesy: please reopen the first bug and comment that this was only fixed for KDE 320:57
Tscheesyi'll do ;)20:57
Lurea|wen: wpa2-personal works, but it is not hidden20:58
ryanakcaapachelogger: No, sadly. Nobody from security ever replied...20:59
Lurea|wen: complex one does not work (just with nm-applet), but I have high hopes as there are positive reports with same combination, just not hidden newtork20:59
a|wenLure: do you think everything has stabilized again after the rewriting-hidden?20:59
apacheloggerryanakca: I told you, they are busy bees :)20:59
Lurea|wen: hard to say - I have just seen the commit20:59
a|wenhehe ... then maybe it needs a little more time ;)21:00
ryanakcaapachelogger: :)21:00
Lurea|wen: _wstephenson is the person to ask (in #plasma or in #kde-devel)21:00
a|wenLure: if you can get upstream to be satisfied that it is re-stabilized after rewriting it sometime soon, i'll update the "plasma widget to test"21:01
* Lure is getting svn checkout in order to try local build...21:02
a|wenLure: i can throw a build in my PPA for you with -dbg package and all21:03
Lurea|wen: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.21:03
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Lureit seems I got rusty in my build-from-svn skips ;-)21:04
Lurea|wen: if you can do ppa dance, I would be more than happy to test21:05
a|wenLure: uploading in progress...21:06
Lurea|wen: you are fast!21:07
a|wenheh ... that is why there is no need to local-build it and mess up your system :P21:07
a|wenLure: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa <--- sometime soon21:07
a|wensry, https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/experimental21:08
Lurea|wen: ok, will test wpa2-personal now and problematic combination tommorow morning at work21:09
Lurea|wen: thanks for packaging21:09
a|wenLure: cool; if both those work without any problems (and you can test using a cable as well) i'll surely put it in the normal test-run21:10
Lurea|wen: ok, will report back on results (including cable)21:11
a|wenperfect ... just ping me here (in the hope that my connection doesn't break while i'm away)21:13
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JontheEchidnalex79: could you test bug 360794 with Qt 4.5.1 please?22:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 360794 in qt4-x11 "linguist-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36079422:50
lex79yes, now take phone :)22:51
Riddellso, how's our packages doing?22:54
apacheloggerhm23:11
apacheloggerRiddell: can we haz kde integration for ubuntuone? :P23:14
nixternalapachelogger: dropbox-daemon :p23:15
Riddellnot that I know of23:16
Nightroseubuntuone works ok here in kde23:16
Nightroseuses dolphin and konqueror23:16
* Nightrose is quite impressed23:16
Riddelloh good, that's an improvement from when I tried it23:16
Nightrosesabdfl: ^ very nice!23:16
Nightrosethe install process could be improved though23:17
* apachelogger notes that it is installing half the gnome stack on his laptop which is running low on disk space anyway23:17
Nightrosehmmm didn't do it here23:17
Nightrosemaybe because i already have it all on my pc23:18
apacheloggeroh well23:18
apacheloggerit depends on apturl23:18
nixternalhrmm, maybe I should setup the ubuntu one then23:18
apacheloggerand since I found out earlier that apturl is gnome only23:19
apacheloggerit will obviuosly pull in loads of that23:19
nixternalI think I trust sabdfl with my data over people I don't know :)23:19
apacheloggeragreed :D23:19
Nightrosehehe23:19
* Nightrose wishes she had enough diskspace for it on her eeepc23:20
apachelogger hm23:20
apacheloggerI like how the .deb is not wgettable23:20
apacheloggerhm, no too many deps for my system :(23:28
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Nightrosea|wen: it seems network manager applet can connect to hidden networks now23:38
ryanakcaapachelogger: *grin* ... lovely how Canonical has enough time to setup a big project like Ubuntu One but it takes (a few days under) two months and counting to get a measly wiki theme installed :/23:38
Nightrosemight be time for a new snapshot to give it some testing in a day or two23:38
lex79JontheEchidna: for now in kphotoalbum we keep libkdcrw3?23:39
ryanakcaMind you, I guess Ubuntu One brings in money whereas a wiki doesn't... but still...23:39
JontheEchidnalex79: So it's not detecting 7?23:39
apacheloggernah nah, kubuntu wiki doesn't :P23:39
JontheEchidnabecause it's not detecting libkdcraw3 either23:40
lex79JontheEchidna: no23:40
lex79PKGCONFIG() indicates that libkdcraw is not installed (install the package which contains libkdcraw.pc if you want to support this feature)23:40
apacheloggerryanakca: I actually think it is a good thing if it gets done at some point23:40
Sputwhat is ubuntu one?23:40
apacheloggerSput: web storage/sync stuff like dropbox23:40
apacheloggerubuntuone.com23:41
Sputk23:41
ryanakca``Ubuntu One is a portfolio of online services designed around the Ubuntu desktop experience. This means that Ubuntu users will soon have a suite of tools that23:41
ryanakca+fully link all their desktops with personal and easy-to-use cloud services.''23:41
apacheloggerryanakca: it's not like it is ugent ... we don't have much of a visual apeal anyway ;-)23:41
ryanakcaSorry for the paste :)23:41
ryanakcaapachelogger: No, it isn't urgent... but it is discouraging.23:41
apacheloggerwell, you know the option23:42
apacheloggerget a server, get an admin, get a wiki, get some openid integration to launchpad, be happy23:42
lex79JontheEchidna: switch to 7,  we take care of after ok?23:42
JontheEchidnasounds good23:42
apacheloggerryanakca: still I would consider this overhead a much greater problem than waiting for a security review on wiki theme23:43
apacheloggerwhich TBH seems kinda weird anyway23:43
ryanakcaoverhead being Ubuntu One?23:43
ryanakcaOr getting a new server, etc?23:43
apacheloggerryanakca: being maintaining an own wiki23:43
ryanakcaYes. Much cheaper just to wait it out...23:44
apacheloggerryanakca: just poke someone on IRC23:44
ryanakcaWhere's Hobb.see and her PSOD when you need her ? :)23:45
ryanakcaapachelogger: I will tomorrow morning, everybody's gone home23:45
* apachelogger sends Hobbsee some vFlowers so she will be in a good mood when ryanakca asks her about the PSOD23:46
ryanakcaWhat happened to it?23:47
apacheloggerI couldn't tell23:47
lex79JontheEchidna launchpad bug 37508223:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 375082 in kphotoalbum "New upstream release 4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37508223:48
lex79upload please ;)23:48
lex79JontheEchidna: linguist-qt4 still crashes23:56

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