nalioth | dtchen: i'm in no hurry, i'm just reporting what could be a serious issue | 00:02 |
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JontheEchidna | wharg, boost borkage on kdepim | 00:31 |
Riddell | meh | 00:32 |
Riddell | I'm not (re)test building these you may have noticed | 00:32 |
JontheEchidna | kdesdk fails on boost too | 00:41 |
JontheEchidna | I suppose I should investigate since my name is on the package | 00:41 |
Riddell | and I /still/ have qt linking here | 00:41 |
JontheEchidna | o.o | 00:42 |
JontheEchidna | bug 373962 | 00:43 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 373962 in boost1.35 "merge boost1.35 1.35.0-10 from debian unstable (main) - mpl headers not compiling" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373962 | 00:43 |
Riddell | clever chap that a|wen | 00:47 |
Riddell | uploaded | 01:03 |
JontheEchidna | nice | 01:10 |
JontheEchidna | I hope, at least, that kdetoys builds :P | 01:11 |
dtchen | Riddell: oh, regarding alpine+topal last week: i vaguely (mis?)remember you mentioned being an alpine user. i'm submitting fixes for topal (a gnupg glue), hence the question. | 01:13 |
Riddell | dtchen: question? | 01:16 |
dtchen | Riddell: yeah, i was wondering if you use both alpine and topal | 01:17 |
Riddell | oh no, I actually went back to using mutt | 01:17 |
dtchen | ok, answers that. thanks! | 01:18 |
Riddell | there was stuff I realised I couldn't do in alpine | 01:18 |
JontheEchidna | the biggest diff in our packages between debian is the changelog | 01:27 |
JontheEchidna | maybe we should consider dropping the KDE3 portion? | 01:28 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: of what? | 01:36 |
Riddell | changelog in kdetoys? | 01:37 |
JontheEchidna | in most of the kde package | 01:37 |
JontheEchidna | s | 01:37 |
JontheEchidna | it bloats the diff up by 2,000 lines at least | 01:38 |
Riddell | mm, could do | 01:38 |
Riddell | feels like wiping history though | 01:38 |
JontheEchidna | yeah... | 01:38 |
dtchen | you'll still have the existing changelog delta from previous release(s), tho' | 01:38 |
Riddell | harder to get at | 01:39 |
dtchen | true | 01:39 |
Riddell | we might lose something useful, we have plenty of patches introduced in the kde 3 era | 01:39 |
Riddell | something like kdetoys though would be less important | 01:40 |
nixternal | Riddell: http://kde.pastey.net/113984 <- for kiconedit to fix bug 335743 and bug 180010 | 02:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 335743 in kiconedit "Error trying to save or save-as anything" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335743 | 02:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 180010 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Lenovo Y410 No sound Ubuntu gusty" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180010 | 02:16 |
nixternal | kde bug 180010 | 02:16 |
ubottu | KDE bug 180010 in general "Kiconedit save error Fehler beim speichern von" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180010 | 02:16 |
* Riddell drows in build failures | 02:28 | |
Riddell | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file kiconediticon.cpp.rej | 02:30 |
Riddell | nixternal: a debdiff is much more useful though | 02:31 |
Riddell | oh, you wrote the patch | 02:32 |
Riddell | isn't there a kiconedit maintainer to review it? | 02:32 |
Riddell | time for me to sleep anyway, guid nicht all | 02:32 |
nixternal | Riddell: right, that is an upstream patch | 02:34 |
imbrandon | gnight Riddell | 02:34 |
nixternal | Riddell: I haven't found said person for kiconedit...it seems a community venture now with commits for over the past year plus | 02:34 |
nixternal | that has been broken for a year or more | 02:34 |
tdapple | Will kubuntu always stay pretty much a vanilla kde? | 02:59 |
ScottK | tdapple: Hard to say. There are proposals that it not that are to be discussed at the next UDS. | 03:00 |
tdapple | I hope it stays vanilla, or if they change it make it more modular like kdemod for arch | 03:01 |
ScottK | I'm hoping for vanilla or better. If we can avoid changes that make it worse, it's a win. | 03:02 |
tdapple | true....I am trying to find a distro and stick with it...Kubuntu is nice since it's mainly vanilla and most things actually work...well after going to kde 4.2.3 | 03:03 |
ScottK | There is a commitment to maintain vanilla as an option is they do make some changes, so I think you should be reasonably safe. | 03:04 |
ScottK | is/if | 03:04 |
tdapple | cool | 03:05 |
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a|wen | thx Riddell ... i thought someone would need a working boost again sometime :) | 04:31 |
nixternal | for karmic, change the kde4.mk in rules to debian-qt-kde.mk? | 04:59 |
imbrandon | nixternal: yes | 05:05 |
nixternal | to late :p | 05:06 |
imbrandon | and depend on pkg-kde-tools | 05:07 |
imbrandon | nixternal: too late ? | 05:07 |
imbrandon | nixternal: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20090502.191539.246f7aa3.pt-BR.html | 05:08 |
nixternal | already made the change and went forward :) | 05:10 |
nixternal | I brainfarted when asking the question and knew the answer already | 05:11 |
tomsdale | hi, I have an NVidia NVS 160m Gfx with 256MB Ram - in the Xorg.0.log it is reported with (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes | 05:12 |
tomsdale | Would this lead to problems if the RAM is reported incorrectly? I do experience random crashes when e.G. loading a 200em header in firefox. | 05:13 |
nixternal | I think I have uploaded more packages today than I have total in the past 4 years :) | 05:49 |
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nixternal | thanks for the kudos apachelogger :) | 08:03 |
nixternal | gimme kudos on ohloh you ninjas! | 08:03 |
nixternal | don't know why I never signed up there before...I still don't know the purpose of it yet | 08:04 |
nixternal | err, you didn't give me kudos apachelogger, I gave you kudos :p | 08:04 |
Riddell | kudos nixternal! | 08:07 |
nixternal | :) | 08:07 |
imbrandon | gnight all | 08:18 |
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Tonio_ | hi there | 09:50 |
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Riddell | bonjour Tonio_ | 09:51 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: since I have you here... I noticed a little problem with pkg-kde-tools... | 09:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I have a package that ftbfs for weird reasons when kde4.mk works | 09:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: the issue seems to be with .h file include that fails at some points... | 09:52 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: that's in the polki-qt package (should be NEW right now) | 09:53 |
_StefanS_ | Tooonnnnnnnniooooooo! | 09:54 |
_StefanS_ | :D | 09:54 |
Tonio_ | also, would be nice if can approve that one since k3b dep waits in the archives :) | 09:54 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hey :) how are you old friend ? | 09:54 |
_StefanS_ | _StefanS_: ah, up and down you know | 09:55 |
_StefanS_ | _StefanS_: how about you ? | 09:55 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: :D | 09:55 |
_StefanS_ | I must be tired. | 09:55 |
Tonio_ | hehe | 09:55 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: still busy with work and stuff? | 09:56 |
Riddell | Tonio_: I should approve it even though it fails to build? | 09:56 |
Tonio_ | I'm fine.... searching for a new job activelly so half away from kubuntu right now | 09:56 |
_StefanS_ | ah ok | 09:56 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: it'll work, since I didn't switch to pkg-kde-tools because of that | 09:56 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll try to fix then will switch | 09:56 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: system administration stuff, or what kind of work? | 09:56 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: sysadmin probably, but not especially free software... | 09:57 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: a proprietary/free mix would be nice | 09:57 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: alright | 09:57 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: I actually went into magento lately, seems there's alot of business going on in that | 09:57 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: php5 oo | 09:57 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: hum I'm not a developper, although I know php a bit :) | 09:58 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: but eventually some windows/unix administration in between | 09:58 |
Tonio_ | yup | 09:58 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: do they work in france ? | 09:58 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: thats the kind of mix I like | 09:58 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: nawp, its local in denmark | 09:58 |
Tonio_ | hehe :) | 09:58 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: but I would be glad to recommended you somewhere if the option comes up | 09:59 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: I havent been especially active in kubuntu development lately, maybe I should give up the membership ? | 09:59 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: to make place for someone else | 09:59 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: bah most ubuntu members aren't active | 10:00 |
_StefanS_ | uhm ok | 10:00 |
_StefanS_ | not too important then | 10:00 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yup | 10:00 |
_StefanS_ | well If I got asked, I would definitely make it happen | 10:00 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: if you need some vm's for testing stuff, let me know. I have some ressources handy | 10:01 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: regarding you work situation, or explore new things | 10:01 |
_StefanS_ | if that can help. | 10:01 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I have everything I need on my laptop :) | 10:01 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: still that old mac book ? :) | 10:02 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: or did you get upgraded ? | 10:02 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yep :) | 10:02 |
Tonio_ | old ? it's 2 year old, not more | 10:02 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: the magsafe didn't toast you yet? | 10:02 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: heard there has been all sorts of issues | 10:02 |
Tonio_ | never had any problem with it | 10:02 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: how do you live with the keyboard and one mouse button ? | 10:03 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: well I learned the keyboard, nothing else :) | 10:03 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: the one mouse ? the touchpad is multitouch | 10:03 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: so I can basically middle and right click with ease | 10:03 |
Riddell | Tonio_: is polkit-qt in KDE SVN? | 10:03 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: yea but thats with a delay, right ? | 10:03 |
Riddell | it's missing a GPL copy for the examples/ directory | 10:04 |
_StefanS_ | Riddell: thanks for the stickers you sent a while back :) | 10:04 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: afaik it's been merged latelly but I'm unsure | 10:04 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: atm they've been releasing separare tarballs | 10:04 |
_StefanS_ | Riddell: I've been putting them on my kids so they grow knowing only about kubuntu | 10:04 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: no delay here, it's pretty real time | 10:04 |
_StefanS_ | uhm ok | 10:04 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: really it's very comfortable to use, even with linux | 10:05 |
Riddell | _StefanS_: cool! | 10:05 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: right about the licence... will look at kdesvn about where it is right now | 10:05 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: ah I guess I will go with new thinkpad soon, they work too well for me switch | 10:05 |
Riddell | Tonio_: it's in kdesupport, I'll add the GPL | 10:06 |
* Tonio_ dreams of a lenovo x301 :) | 10:06 | |
_StefanS_ | x301? | 10:06 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: great | 10:06 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: the very best laptop ever | 10:06 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: imagin a macbook pro inside a macbook air ;) | 10:06 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: that's pretty much what it is :) | 10:06 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: thats a puny little laptop | 10:06 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: 13" screen ? hope you got glasses | 10:07 |
_StefanS_ | oh my. | 10:07 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: bah it's perfect size imho | 10:07 |
Tonio_ | :) | 10:07 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: damn, did you see that crashtest they did with it ? haha | 10:08 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: still works after crashing a wall | 10:08 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: nope !! url ? | 10:08 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: http://www.laptop4u.dk/varer.php?serie=LenovoX301 | 10:08 |
Tonio_ | _StefanS_: bah that's a thinkopad, they're known to be unbreakable | 10:08 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: video in the midsection, right | 10:08 |
_StefanS_ | Tonio_: just look at the wiggliling in slowmo, thats some serious tests for the soldering/board design :D | 10:09 |
apachelogger | ohhh | 10:34 |
apachelogger | nixternal: thanks for reminding me of the name :D | 10:34 |
apachelogger | the other day I was already wondering about it :P | 10:34 |
\sh | moins | 11:06 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: bug 359517 ... last comment | 11:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 359517 in kdeedu "kstars does not support indi" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359517 | 11:07 |
apachelogger | \sh: yo! baby released yet? | 11:07 |
* apachelogger is awfuly out-of-date on planet matters :D | 11:07 | |
\sh | apachelogger: check my page ,-) then you know ;) | 11:07 |
* apachelogger diggs through 3 browsers to find bookmark | 11:08 | |
\sh | apachelogger: www.sourcecode.de ? ;) | 11:08 |
apachelogger | right, I knew it was something catchy ;-) | 11:08 |
apachelogger | \o/ | 11:08 |
apachelogger | \sh: congrats | 11:08 |
apachelogger | ubercongrats actually, that baby is ubercute | 11:09 |
\sh | apachelogger: thx :) and what about you? wehrdienst ended? :) | 11:09 |
apachelogger | october that is | 11:09 |
apachelogger | zivildienst lasts 9 months | 11:09 |
\sh | apachelogger: so everything is now in place that you can deal again with developmentß :) | 11:10 |
apachelogger | well, only development with long-term results, I am not enough around to do KDE relese packaging for example | 11:11 |
\sh | apachelogger: at least you are back :) and I'm trying now to catch up with everything I missed in the last month | 11:11 |
* apachelogger wouldn't bother TBH :P | 11:12 | |
\sh | hehe | 11:13 |
Sput | \sh: \o/ | 11:14 |
Sput | welcome back :) | 11:14 |
apachelogger | oh | 11:14 |
Nightrose | \sh: \o/ | 11:14 |
Nightrose | hows te family doing? | 11:15 |
* apachelogger geht verrückt | 11:15 | |
Nightrose | *the | 11:15 |
apachelogger | kubotu: np | 11:15 |
kubotu | apachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 38 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more | 11:15 |
apachelogger | hm | 11:15 |
apachelogger | ah, broken | 11:15 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: who's going to package amarok 2.1 beta 2 for kubuntu? | 11:15 |
apachelogger | no clue | 11:15 |
\sh | Nightrose: everything is fine...yesterday we went home from hospital..baby is very well and mommy too :) | 11:15 |
Nightrose | great :) | 11:16 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: i'd like to give the package some testing if possible before release | 11:16 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ^^ | 11:18 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: did you use the refactored release script | 11:18 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: i used whatever is in bzr | 11:19 |
Nightrose | updated right before tagging | 11:19 |
apachelogger | refactored version is not in the main branch | 11:19 |
Nightrose | Oo | 11:19 |
apachelogger | because you didn't test it :P | 11:19 |
Nightrose | why not? | 11:19 |
apachelogger | clearly that is a loop | 11:19 |
Nightrose | meh.... | 11:19 |
Nightrose | you should have told me | 11:20 |
* apachelogger writes a testscript | 11:20 | |
apachelogger | Nightrose: I told you :P | 11:20 |
Nightrose | no you didn't ;-) | 11:20 |
apachelogger | -.- | 11:20 |
apachelogger | [15:06:20] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong | 11:30 |
apachelogger | [15:06:22] <apachelogger> ah | 11:30 |
apachelogger | [15:06:31] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I uploadered the refactored release script | 11:30 |
apachelogger | [15:06:54] <Mamarok> apachelogger! | 11:30 |
apachelogger | [15:07:50] <apachelogger> Nightrose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor give it a try, meet it, discuss it, improve it, brand it, just do something with it :P | 11:30 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: I told yer! | 11:30 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: i didn't get that :/ | 11:30 |
apachelogger | [15:08:01] <apachelogger> Mamarok: how are you? | 11:31 |
apachelogger | [15:08:09] <apachelogger> how is the sprint going? | 11:31 |
apachelogger | [15:08:14] <Mamarok> fine, how are you? | 11:31 |
apachelogger | [15:08:16] <Nightrose> apachelogger: hehe cool - i'll give it a try when i am back home | 11:31 |
apachelogger | you more liek forgot it :P | 11:31 |
Nightrose | hmmmmm | 11:31 |
Nightrose | or I thought that was the same I had already checked out | 11:31 |
Nightrose | meh | 11:32 |
apachelogger | ohh | 11:36 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: works very nicely for amarok | 11:36 |
apachelogger | well, obviously I didn't test tagging | 11:36 |
Nightrose | ok cool | 11:36 |
Nightrose | *hug* | 11:36 |
apachelogger | it removes incomplete translations though | 11:36 |
apachelogger | packagernotification is a bit empty IMHO | 11:37 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: just get the branch and run ./amarok2.rb --no-tag | 11:37 |
Nightrose | what's missing in the packagernotification? | 11:38 |
apachelogger | dunno | 11:38 |
apachelogger | currently it lists md5sum, sha1sum, amount of documentations and a list of them, same for translations | 11:38 |
apachelogger | also note that you can set everything via arguments or use a code line in the release script | 11:39 |
apachelogger | see http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/release-refactor.ogv | 11:39 |
apachelogger | ... this also allows to run the script on a machine without kdialog ;-) | 11:41 |
Nightrose | ahhh you mean in the script.. | 11:42 |
Nightrose | i though you were talking about my email | 11:42 |
Nightrose | :D | 11:42 |
* Nightrose checks out the script | 11:42 | |
apachelogger | lol | 11:42 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: i get a few of those: | 11:54 |
Nightrose | svn: URL 'svn+ssh://lydia@svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-kde4/ca@valencia/messages/extragear-multimedia' non-existent in that revision | 11:54 |
Nightrose | (with different country codes) | 11:55 |
ghostcube | apachelogger: you know many peoples or can you may give the link i posted in kubuntu-de to all you know | 11:55 |
ghostcube | we need help in this | 11:55 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: and why do i get stuff like: A l10n/libk3bdevice.po | 11:55 |
Nightrose | or kaffeine | 11:55 |
apachelogger | speed | 11:55 |
Nightrose | k | 11:56 |
apachelogger | opening svn connections takes most of the time ages | 11:56 |
apachelogger | and keeping stuff like kipi in mind, which got more than 2 desktop files the difference is about 300% | 11:56 |
Nightrose | k | 11:56 |
Riddell | nhandler: ok if I take the kdeartwork merge? | 12:50 |
nhandler | Sure Riddell | 12:58 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: so, amarok 2.1 b2 and kstars? | 12:58 |
JontheEchidna | i can haz tarball? | 12:58 |
Nightrose | JontheEchidna: amarok beta 2 tarball is on ktown | 13:04 |
Nightrose | do you have access? | 13:04 |
JontheEchidna | nein | 13:05 |
Nightrose | ok sec - getting a link for you | 13:05 |
Nightrose | see query | 13:06 |
* JontheEchidna wonders what the chances of mysql 5.1 being in main this cycle are | 13:07 | |
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Quintasan|school | hiho | 13:14 |
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Nightrose | apachelogger: release script seems to be ok | 13:19 |
JontheEchidna | wharghlbrl, archive troubles again: | 13:28 |
JontheEchidna | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 13:28 |
JontheEchidna | libqt4-dev: Depends: libpq-dev but it is not going to be installed | 13:28 |
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apachelogger | Nightrose: ok, thx | 13:38 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: webdev-kde4 is webdev now? | 13:46 |
JontheEchidna | I think that's what we were doing, with webdev becoming webdev-kde3 | 13:46 |
apachelogger | well | 13:47 |
apachelogger | did we? :P | 13:47 |
* apachelogger is updating batgetorig | 13:47 | |
JontheEchidna | looks like nobody took the webdev merge | 13:48 |
apachelogger | uh | 13:48 |
apachelogger | 4.2.85 is gonna be fun again :D | 13:49 |
apachelogger | .!!!~~~~>Bat get WARNING: ONE OR MORE PATCHES DON'T APPLY PROPERLY | 13:49 |
JontheEchidna | also phonon is busted in the archive | 13:49 |
JontheEchidna | can't include Phonon/Global | 13:49 |
JontheEchidna | boost got fixed though | 13:50 |
apachelogger | busted is state of the art for phonon :P | 13:50 |
JontheEchidna | ../../../applets/bball/bball.h:35:25: error: Phonon/Global: No such file or directory | 13:51 |
apachelogger | Qt's Phonon build doesn't seem to install the Phonon/Global header, | 13:53 |
apachelogger | this patch allows kdemultimedia to compile | 13:53 |
apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_04_qt_phonon.diff | 13:53 |
apachelogger | probably need something similar to that | 13:53 |
apachelogger | though, I would think that fixing qt's phonon would be of better use :P | 13:53 |
Riddell | thiago seemed to suggest the patch is the better approach for some reason | 13:55 |
apachelogger | well, global sounds global, if so it would indeed make sense to not use it | 13:55 |
Riddell | it's a one line file which includes that other one | 13:57 |
apachelogger | Riddell: did you talk to Vir about it? | 13:58 |
Riddell | no he's not on IRC, hopefully he'll respond on kde-multimedia | 13:58 |
Riddell | kdelibs5-dev seems uninstallable suddenly in the buildds | 13:59 |
Riddell | this is not going to help with getting in a state to prepare for alpha 1 tomorrow | 14:00 |
\sh | Riddell: what's the reason to push out an alpha at this early stage? | 14:14 |
* \sh really needs to catch up with all the mails | 14:14 | |
JontheEchidna | anybody know what james meant in bug 374228? It looks like it was synced already | 14:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 374228 in strigi "Sync strigi 0.6.5-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374228 | 14:16 |
davmor2 | \sh: what makes you think it's early ;) | 14:16 |
\sh | davmor2: 2009-04-24 and 2009-05-12 it's not that long ago ;) | 14:17 |
Riddell | \sh: to ensure things aren't entirely broken? we always do one about now | 14:18 |
Sput | hmm... when's the karmic version freeze? | 14:18 |
* Sput should put out quassel-0.5.0 before that | 14:18 | |
\sh | Sput: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | 14:19 |
Sput | ah | 14:19 |
davmor2 | \sh: yeah but you're talking about Ubuntu time here. So that's like 2 months worth of coding time :) | 14:19 |
Sput | FeatureFreeze, right? | 14:19 |
Sput | Aug 27th then | 14:19 |
Sput | well, that's a bit time at least :) | 14:19 |
\sh | Riddell: hmm..never experienced that...could be that I'm just out of business for some weeks now :( | 14:20 |
davmor2 | \sh: plus it's useful to get a baseline for uds so folks can see how broken, erm wonderful, the new release is :) | 14:21 |
\sh | davmor2: ok..point taken ;) | 14:22 |
james_w | hi | 14:24 |
james_w | should kde-l10n from Debian be synced? | 14:24 |
Riddell | nope | 14:24 |
Riddell | james_w: here at Kubuntu we have an avertion to 250MB source packages | 14:25 |
james_w | thought so | 14:25 |
james_w | thanks | 14:25 |
Riddell | at least I do after it nearly delayed the first Kubuntu release | 14:25 |
james_w | I'll blacklist it as well then | 14:25 |
Riddell | oh thanks, this'll be the first cycle it's been in unstable with that name | 14:26 |
JontheEchidna | james_w: oh, about the strigi sync, it looks like it's already been synced? I think the bug just was neglected to be closed | 14:28 |
JontheEchidna | unless I'm missing something | 14:29 |
james_w | JontheEchidna: not sure. The scripts just threw it back in my face | 14:29 |
james_w | perhaps I interpreted that wrong | 14:29 |
james_w | rmadison says it hasn't | 14:29 |
JontheEchidna | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/0.6.5-1 | 14:29 |
james_w | ok | 14:30 |
james_w | please close the bug | 14:30 |
JontheEchidna | ok, just wanted to make sure :) | 14:30 |
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Quintasan|irssi | grr | 14:52 |
Quintasan|irssi | quassel is dead under kde-nightly | 14:52 |
Quintasan|irssi | kde-nightly-kdepim_20090508+svn965433-0neon1_amd64.deb fails to install | 14:53 |
james_w | it appears that amarok and juk are keeping taglib in main | 14:58 |
james_w | taglib was synced, and has new Build-Depends | 14:58 |
james_w | which means it will fail to rebuild without MIRs for those | 14:59 |
james_w | therefore I come here to nag about MIRs | 14:59 |
james_w | if anyone sees any flaws in my logic then please redirect me accordingly | 14:59 |
james_w | it seems to be a trio of librcd, librcc and enca | 15:01 |
Riddell | your logic seems logical | 15:05 |
Quintasan|irssi | lol | 15:06 |
Riddell | we also need a MIR for kdenetwork | 15:07 |
james_w | plus there is libindi/libfli1 to sort out | 16:12 |
james_w | though there may be no actual MIRs required there as indi is in main | 16:13 |
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Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportEnca https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcd https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcc | 17:49 |
Riddell | james_w: ^^ | 17:49 |
james_w | nice, thanks | 17:49 |
james_w | they need ubuntu-mir subscribed first though | 17:50 |
Riddell | done | 17:50 |
james_w | thanks | 17:51 |
JontheEchidna | whee, file conflict bug reports for karmic coming in | 18:04 |
JontheEchidna | If people are running Karmic they should at least check for duplicates :/ | 18:04 |
apachelogger | can rsync sync from https? | 18:06 |
Riddell | no, it syncs from rsync | 18:06 |
apachelogger | :S | 18:06 |
apachelogger | ppas need to provide rsync access :D | 18:06 |
apachelogger | :/ | 18:10 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the ninjas ppa needs a good cleanup | 18:15 |
JontheEchidna | Lunchpad is still doing that timeout thing for me :/ I suppose I can use the workaround | 18:17 |
apachelogger | nasty thingy | 18:18 |
apachelogger | man | 18:18 |
JontheEchidna | ...except the delete page is timing out too | 18:18 |
apachelogger | use another browser | 18:18 |
apachelogger | apt-mirror clearly doesn't support https + auth | 18:19 |
apachelogger | must not be ruby | 18:19 |
lex79 | I need advice for the name of new plasmoid package | 18:22 |
lex79 | plasma-widget-drop-to-imageshack | 18:22 |
lex79 | or | 18:22 |
JontheEchidna | plasma-widget-drop2ftp is what we did for the ftp one | 18:23 |
lex79 | plasma-widget-droptoimageshack | 18:23 |
lex79 | or upstream name | 18:23 |
lex79 | plasma-widget-drop2imageshack | 18:23 |
JontheEchidna | hmm | 18:23 |
lex79 | one, two or three? :) | 18:23 |
Riddell | plasma-widget-drop2imageshack if upstream is drop2imageshack | 18:23 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: is that make thingy backported yet? | 18:24 |
lex79 | okey | 18:24 |
apachelogger | hm... that apt-mirror thingy is weird indeed, it auths properly but doesn't know it auths thus gets a wrong cache directory :D | 18:25 |
JontheEchidna | apachelogger: the makestatus applet? I filed the backport request less than an hour ago | 18:25 |
JontheEchidna | so soon :) | 18:25 |
apachelogger | slow that is :P | 18:26 |
lex79 | uhmmm, no..upstream is drop to imageshack, so plasma-widget-droptoimageshack | 18:26 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop+To+Imageshack?content=104592 | 18:26 |
lex79 | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop2Imageshack?content=100881 | 18:27 |
lex79 | LoL | 18:27 |
lex79 | the first is better | 18:27 |
JontheEchidna | it seems that whenever X crashes at all it takes down ksmserver with it (bug 332811) | 18:27 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 332811 in kdebase-workspace "ksmserver crashed with SIGSEGV in <signal handler called>()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332811 | 18:27 |
JontheEchidna | my question is, should it be reasonable to expect ksmserver to crash when X crashes? | 18:28 |
apachelogger | *shrug* | 18:29 |
apachelogger | ksmserver probably should detect that X died and quit | 18:29 |
apachelogger | rather than running into a bogus segment and go down like titanic | 18:29 |
JontheEchidna | it looks like it is dying as it is catching X's crash signal | 18:29 |
apachelogger | where does that signal come from? | 18:30 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: anyway, talk to some kdelibs dood in kde-devel | 18:30 |
apachelogger | uh uh uh | 18:43 |
apachelogger | there is a bug | 18:43 |
a|wen | a bug? oh, how could that happen :P | 18:46 |
apachelogger | python! | 18:46 |
apachelogger | :P | 18:46 |
apachelogger | Packages* files are all b0rked in private ppas | 18:46 |
apachelogger | no wonder apt-mirror ain't getting any grip on packages :D | 18:47 |
a|wen | heh | 18:48 |
apachelogger | and no cprov to fix it around :| | 18:48 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: any news on the wiki theme? | 18:51 |
* apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna in the nose | 18:54 | |
apachelogger | when I said cleanup I didn't mean empty it :P | 18:54 |
JontheEchidna | what did we need that was still in there? | 18:58 |
lex79 | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-droptoimageshack | 18:58 |
apachelogger | anything, I was looking into mirror capabilties for binary QA :P | 18:59 |
apachelogger | kubotu: np | 18:59 |
kubotu | apachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 45 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more | 18:59 |
apachelogger | still broken | 18:59 |
apachelogger | Nightrose: is beta1's last.fm login broken or something? | 19:01 |
Nightrose | yes | 19:01 |
Nightrose | should be fixed with beta 2 | 19:01 |
apachelogger | cool | 19:01 |
apachelogger | did they change protocal again? | 19:01 |
Nightrose | dunno what the problem was exactly sorry | 19:02 |
apachelogger | well, it worked until 45 hours ago :D | 19:02 |
* apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna into packaging b2 | 19:02 | |
Nightrose | umm then something else is wrong | 19:02 |
Nightrose | already packaged ;-) | 19:02 |
apachelogger | uhm | 19:02 |
apachelogger | where? | 19:02 |
Nightrose | his ppa | 19:02 |
apachelogger | hmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 19:03 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: why not ninjas? | 19:03 |
* apachelogger would find that more useful :P | 19:03 | |
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a|wen | 2.0.90 = beta1 ? | 19:06 |
Nightrose | yes | 19:07 |
apachelogger | Oo | 19:07 |
apachelogger | crash on startup | 19:07 |
apachelogger | \o/ | 19:07 |
Nightrose | bah | 19:07 |
Nightrose | damn | 19:07 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: do you have qtscriptbindings installed? | 19:08 |
apachelogger | yus | 19:08 |
Nightrose | and at the right place? | 19:08 |
apachelogger | it happens before that crap gets initialized | 19:08 |
a|wen | ~np | 19:08 |
kubotu | awenning is listening to "The Scientist" by Coldplay [A Rush of Blood to the Head, 2006]; see http://www.last.fm/user/awenning for more | 19:08 |
apachelogger | right after it loads sqlcollection.so | 19:08 |
apachelogger | maybe my db is busted | 19:08 |
Nightrose | hmmmmm | 19:08 |
a|wen | hmm, beta1 looks to work fine with last.fm here | 19:08 |
apachelogger | a|wen: yeah, I just noticed that I downgraded to 2.0.2 | 19:09 |
a|wen | :P | 19:09 |
apachelogger | which of course raises the question why 2.0.2 fails to lastfmify | 19:09 |
Nightrose | ah well then the problem was in 2.0.2 and not beta 1 | 19:09 |
Nightrose | one of them had problems | 19:09 |
apachelogger | huh | 19:10 |
apachelogger | huuuuuuuh | 19:10 |
apachelogger | so, I moved my amarok data folder => still crash | 19:10 |
apachelogger | moved back and removed all amarok configs => still crash | 19:10 |
Nightrose | not good | 19:10 |
apachelogger | what do we know now: all b0rked | 19:10 |
Nightrose | apachelogger: can you show Nikolaj a backtrace? | 19:10 |
apachelogger | Need to get 109MB of archives. | 19:11 |
* Nightrose needs to do some uni stuff to get anything done at all today | 19:11 | |
apachelogger | wooohooo | 19:11 |
apachelogger | apt-mirror is worky | 19:11 |
apachelogger | not so good though | 19:13 |
apachelogger | it will retry every package no matter whether the md5sum changed or not | 19:14 |
apachelogger | which is IMHO a waste of time and a waste of bandwith | 19:14 |
Nightrose | folks anyone here who can help me make my firefox show useful programs for "open with" in the download dialog? | 19:22 |
Nightrose | it being empty is meh | 19:23 |
apachelogger | install gnome | 19:23 |
apachelogger | though that might indeed suggest gnome apps instead | 19:24 |
apachelogger | I think the only feasable solution is not to use firefox | 19:24 |
Nightrose | yea - not actually what i want ;-) | 19:24 |
Nightrose | not an option either ;-) | 19:24 |
apachelogger | though Tonio was looking into working around the problem | 19:24 |
apachelogger | dunno if he got anything useful yet | 19:24 |
apachelogger | it certainly is a PITA to get that working at all | 19:24 |
Nightrose | ok i'll poke him | 19:24 |
Nightrose | thx | 19:24 |
seele | ScottK: ping | 19:40 |
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apachelogger | !info apturl | 20:49 |
ubottu | apturl (source: apturl): install packages using the apt protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.3ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 17 kB, installed size 228 kB | 20:49 |
apachelogger | Tscheesy: | 20:49 |
Tscheesy | yes.. usefull, is worth to get into the Distri IMO | 20:50 |
apachelogger | hmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 20:50 |
apachelogger | a) it is gnome-only | 20:50 |
apachelogger | b) it should already include into KDE | 20:51 |
apachelogger | bug 227622 | 20:51 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 227622 in apturl "apturl protocol support for KDE" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227622 | 20:51 |
apachelogger | also see bug 293533 | 20:52 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 293533 in apturl "Better KDE (non-gnome) support for apturl (Was: shouldnt hard depend on synaptic (KDE))" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293533 | 20:52 |
* Lure notices svn commit for hidden network fix in plasma-network-management, hopes someones packages it for jaunty | 20:53 | |
a|wen | Lure: commit rev.? | 20:53 |
Tscheesy | apachelogger : so a protocol seems still be necesary for apt | 20:53 |
Lure | a|wen: 966608 | 20:54 |
apachelogger | well | 20:54 |
apachelogger | sec | 20:54 |
Lure | a|wen: wstephanson completely re-did hidden stuff | 20:54 |
* Lure has hopes... | 20:54 | |
a|wen | Lure: well, then you are committet to a day of pure testing of it ;) | 20:55 |
apachelogger | apturl: /usr/share/services/apturl.protocol | 20:55 |
apachelogger | Tscheesy: it's KDE 3 only | 20:56 |
Tscheesy | ah | 20:56 |
janmalte | http://forum.kde.org/kontact-kaddressbook-shows-annoying-email-popup-t-46600.html | 20:56 |
Lure | a|wen: I will test my hidden+wpa2-enterprise+peap+mschapv2 - this is what I have at work | 20:56 |
janmalte | When will a fixed be released? | 20:56 |
apachelogger | which is funny though :D | 20:56 |
Lure | a|wen: and wpa2-personal at home | 20:56 |
janmalte | it is more then just annoying | 20:56 |
apachelogger | the fix was committed in september | 20:56 |
apachelogger | at which time we had no KDE 3 anymore :P | 20:56 |
apachelogger | so it actually was not fixed at any point :P | 20:57 |
a|wen | Lure: if you can get those two to work, i'll be hugely impressed :) | 20:57 |
a|wen | but i'm an optimist anyway | 20:57 |
apachelogger | Tscheesy: please reopen the first bug and comment that this was only fixed for KDE 3 | 20:57 |
Tscheesy | i'll do ;) | 20:57 |
Lure | a|wen: wpa2-personal works, but it is not hidden | 20:58 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: No, sadly. Nobody from security ever replied... | 20:59 |
Lure | a|wen: complex one does not work (just with nm-applet), but I have high hopes as there are positive reports with same combination, just not hidden newtork | 20:59 |
a|wen | Lure: do you think everything has stabilized again after the rewriting-hidden? | 20:59 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: I told you, they are busy bees :) | 20:59 |
Lure | a|wen: hard to say - I have just seen the commit | 20:59 |
a|wen | hehe ... then maybe it needs a little more time ;) | 21:00 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: :) | 21:00 |
Lure | a|wen: _wstephenson is the person to ask (in #plasma or in #kde-devel) | 21:00 |
a|wen | Lure: if you can get upstream to be satisfied that it is re-stabilized after rewriting it sometime soon, i'll update the "plasma widget to test" | 21:01 |
* Lure is getting svn checkout in order to try local build... | 21:02 | |
a|wen | Lure: i can throw a build in my PPA for you with -dbg package and all | 21:03 |
Lure | a|wen: make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. | 21:03 |
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Lure | it seems I got rusty in my build-from-svn skips ;-) | 21:04 |
Lure | a|wen: if you can do ppa dance, I would be more than happy to test | 21:05 |
a|wen | Lure: uploading in progress... | 21:06 |
Lure | a|wen: you are fast! | 21:07 |
a|wen | heh ... that is why there is no need to local-build it and mess up your system :P | 21:07 |
a|wen | Lure: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa <--- sometime soon | 21:07 |
a|wen | sry, https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/experimental | 21:08 |
Lure | a|wen: ok, will test wpa2-personal now and problematic combination tommorow morning at work | 21:09 |
Lure | a|wen: thanks for packaging | 21:09 |
a|wen | Lure: cool; if both those work without any problems (and you can test using a cable as well) i'll surely put it in the normal test-run | 21:10 |
Lure | a|wen: ok, will report back on results (including cable) | 21:11 |
a|wen | perfect ... just ping me here (in the hope that my connection doesn't break while i'm away) | 21:13 |
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JontheEchidna | lex79: could you test bug 360794 with Qt 4.5.1 please? | 22:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 360794 in qt4-x11 "linguist-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360794 | 22:50 |
lex79 | yes, now take phone :) | 22:51 |
Riddell | so, how's our packages doing? | 22:54 |
apachelogger | hm | 23:11 |
apachelogger | Riddell: can we haz kde integration for ubuntuone? :P | 23:14 |
nixternal | apachelogger: dropbox-daemon :p | 23:15 |
Riddell | not that I know of | 23:16 |
Nightrose | ubuntuone works ok here in kde | 23:16 |
Nightrose | uses dolphin and konqueror | 23:16 |
* Nightrose is quite impressed | 23:16 | |
Riddell | oh good, that's an improvement from when I tried it | 23:16 |
Nightrose | sabdfl: ^ very nice! | 23:16 |
Nightrose | the install process could be improved though | 23:17 |
* apachelogger notes that it is installing half the gnome stack on his laptop which is running low on disk space anyway | 23:17 | |
Nightrose | hmmm didn't do it here | 23:17 |
Nightrose | maybe because i already have it all on my pc | 23:18 |
apachelogger | oh well | 23:18 |
apachelogger | it depends on apturl | 23:18 |
nixternal | hrmm, maybe I should setup the ubuntu one then | 23:18 |
apachelogger | and since I found out earlier that apturl is gnome only | 23:19 |
apachelogger | it will obviuosly pull in loads of that | 23:19 |
nixternal | I think I trust sabdfl with my data over people I don't know :) | 23:19 |
apachelogger | agreed :D | 23:19 |
Nightrose | hehe | 23:19 |
* Nightrose wishes she had enough diskspace for it on her eeepc | 23:20 | |
apachelogger | hm | 23:20 |
apachelogger | I like how the .deb is not wgettable | 23:20 |
apachelogger | hm, no too many deps for my system :( | 23:28 |
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Nightrose | a|wen: it seems network manager applet can connect to hidden networks now | 23:38 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: *grin* ... lovely how Canonical has enough time to setup a big project like Ubuntu One but it takes (a few days under) two months and counting to get a measly wiki theme installed :/ | 23:38 |
Nightrose | might be time for a new snapshot to give it some testing in a day or two | 23:38 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: for now in kphotoalbum we keep libkdcrw3? | 23:39 |
ryanakca | Mind you, I guess Ubuntu One brings in money whereas a wiki doesn't... but still... | 23:39 |
JontheEchidna | lex79: So it's not detecting 7? | 23:39 |
apachelogger | nah nah, kubuntu wiki doesn't :P | 23:39 |
JontheEchidna | because it's not detecting libkdcraw3 either | 23:40 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: no | 23:40 |
lex79 | PKGCONFIG() indicates that libkdcraw is not installed (install the package which contains libkdcraw.pc if you want to support this feature) | 23:40 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: I actually think it is a good thing if it gets done at some point | 23:40 |
Sput | what is ubuntu one? | 23:40 |
apachelogger | Sput: web storage/sync stuff like dropbox | 23:40 |
apachelogger | ubuntuone.com | 23:41 |
Sput | k | 23:41 |
ryanakca | ``Ubuntu One is a portfolio of online services designed around the Ubuntu desktop experience. This means that Ubuntu users will soon have a suite of tools that | 23:41 |
ryanakca | +fully link all their desktops with personal and easy-to-use cloud services.'' | 23:41 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: it's not like it is ugent ... we don't have much of a visual apeal anyway ;-) | 23:41 |
ryanakca | Sorry for the paste :) | 23:41 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: No, it isn't urgent... but it is discouraging. | 23:41 |
apachelogger | well, you know the option | 23:42 |
apachelogger | get a server, get an admin, get a wiki, get some openid integration to launchpad, be happy | 23:42 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: switch to 7, we take care of after ok? | 23:42 |
JontheEchidna | sounds good | 23:42 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: still I would consider this overhead a much greater problem than waiting for a security review on wiki theme | 23:43 |
apachelogger | which TBH seems kinda weird anyway | 23:43 |
ryanakca | overhead being Ubuntu One? | 23:43 |
ryanakca | Or getting a new server, etc? | 23:43 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: being maintaining an own wiki | 23:43 |
ryanakca | Yes. Much cheaper just to wait it out... | 23:44 |
apachelogger | ryanakca: just poke someone on IRC | 23:44 |
ryanakca | Where's Hobb.see and her PSOD when you need her ? :) | 23:45 |
ryanakca | apachelogger: I will tomorrow morning, everybody's gone home | 23:45 |
* apachelogger sends Hobbsee some vFlowers so she will be in a good mood when ryanakca asks her about the PSOD | 23:46 | |
ryanakca | What happened to it? | 23:47 |
apachelogger | I couldn't tell | 23:47 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna launchpad bug 375082 | 23:48 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 375082 in kphotoalbum "New upstream release 4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375082 | 23:48 |
lex79 | upload please ;) | 23:48 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: linguist-qt4 still crashes | 23:56 |
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