[00:02] dtchen: i'm in no hurry, i'm just reporting what could be a serious issue [00:31] wharg, boost borkage on kdepim [00:32] meh [00:32] I'm not (re)test building these you may have noticed [00:41] kdesdk fails on boost too [00:41] I suppose I should investigate since my name is on the package [00:41] and I /still/ have qt linking here [00:42] o.o [00:43] bug 373962 [00:43] Launchpad bug 373962 in boost1.35 "merge boost1.35 1.35.0-10 from debian unstable (main) - mpl headers not compiling" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373962 [00:47] clever chap that a|wen [01:03] uploaded [01:10] nice [01:11] I hope, at least, that kdetoys builds :P [01:13] Riddell: oh, regarding alpine+topal last week: i vaguely (mis?)remember you mentioned being an alpine user. i'm submitting fixes for topal (a gnupg glue), hence the question. [01:16] dtchen: question? [01:17] Riddell: yeah, i was wondering if you use both alpine and topal [01:17] oh no, I actually went back to using mutt [01:18] ok, answers that. thanks! [01:18] there was stuff I realised I couldn't do in alpine [01:27] the biggest diff in our packages between debian is the changelog [01:28] maybe we should consider dropping the KDE3 portion? [01:36] JontheEchidna: of what? [01:37] changelog in kdetoys? [01:37] in most of the kde package [01:37] s [01:38] it bloats the diff up by 2,000 lines at least [01:38] mm, could do [01:38] feels like wiping history though [01:38] yeah... [01:38] you'll still have the existing changelog delta from previous release(s), tho' [01:39] harder to get at [01:39] true [01:39] we might lose something useful, we have plenty of patches introduced in the kde 3 era [01:40] something like kdetoys though would be less important [02:16] Riddell: http://kde.pastey.net/113984 <- for kiconedit to fix bug 335743 and bug 180010 [02:16] Launchpad bug 335743 in kiconedit "Error trying to save or save-as anything" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335743 [02:16] Launchpad bug 180010 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Lenovo Y410 No sound Ubuntu gusty" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180010 [02:16] kde bug 180010 [02:16] KDE bug 180010 in general "Kiconedit save error Fehler beim speichern von" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180010 [02:28] * Riddell drows in build failures [02:30] 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file kiconediticon.cpp.rej [02:31] nixternal: a debdiff is much more useful though [02:32] oh, you wrote the patch [02:32] isn't there a kiconedit maintainer to review it? [02:32] time for me to sleep anyway, guid nicht all [02:34] Riddell: right, that is an upstream patch [02:34] gnight Riddell [02:34] Riddell: I haven't found said person for kiconedit...it seems a community venture now with commits for over the past year plus [02:34] that has been broken for a year or more [02:59] Will kubuntu always stay pretty much a vanilla kde? [03:00] tdapple: Hard to say. There are proposals that it not that are to be discussed at the next UDS. [03:01] I hope it stays vanilla, or if they change it make it more modular like kdemod for arch [03:02] I'm hoping for vanilla or better. If we can avoid changes that make it worse, it's a win. [03:03] true....I am trying to find a distro and stick with it...Kubuntu is nice since it's mainly vanilla and most things actually work...well after going to kde 4.2.3 [03:04] There is a commitment to maintain vanilla as an option is they do make some changes, so I think you should be reasonably safe. [03:04] is/if [03:05] cool === Gon__ is now known as Gonium [04:31] thx Riddell ... i thought someone would need a working boost again sometime :) [04:59] for karmic, change the kde4.mk in rules to debian-qt-kde.mk? [05:05] nixternal: yes [05:06] to late :p [05:07] and depend on pkg-kde-tools [05:07] nixternal: too late ? [05:08] nixternal: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20090502.191539.246f7aa3.pt-BR.html [05:10] already made the change and went forward :) [05:11] I brainfarted when asking the question and knew the answer already [05:12] hi, I have an NVidia NVS 160m Gfx with 256MB Ram - in the Xorg.0.log it is reported with (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes [05:13] Would this lead to problems if the RAM is reported incorrectly? I do experience random crashes when e.G. loading a 200em header in firefox. [05:49] I think I have uploaded more packages today than I have total in the past 4 years :) === araneina is now known as hibana [08:03] thanks for the kudos apachelogger :) [08:03] gimme kudos on ohloh you ninjas! [08:04] don't know why I never signed up there before...I still don't know the purpose of it yet [08:04] err, you didn't give me kudos apachelogger, I gave you kudos :p [08:07] kudos nixternal! [08:07] :) [08:18] gnight all === dpm_ is now known as dpm [09:50] hi there === mars__ is now known as mars [09:51] bonjour Tonio_ [09:52] Riddell: since I have you here... I noticed a little problem with pkg-kde-tools... [09:52] Riddell: I have a package that ftbfs for weird reasons when kde4.mk works [09:52] Riddell: the issue seems to be with .h file include that fails at some points... [09:53] Riddell: that's in the polki-qt package (should be NEW right now) [09:54] <_StefanS_> Tooonnnnnnnniooooooo! [09:54] <_StefanS_> :D [09:54] also, would be nice if can approve that one since k3b dep waits in the archives :) [09:54] _StefanS_: hey :) how are you old friend ? [09:55] <_StefanS_> _StefanS_: ah, up and down you know [09:55] <_StefanS_> _StefanS_: how about you ? [09:55] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: :D [09:55] <_StefanS_> I must be tired. [09:55] hehe [09:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: still busy with work and stuff? [09:56] Tonio_: I should approve it even though it fails to build? [09:56] I'm fine.... searching for a new job activelly so half away from kubuntu right now [09:56] <_StefanS_> ah ok [09:56] Riddell: it'll work, since I didn't switch to pkg-kde-tools because of that [09:56] Riddell: I'll try to fix then will switch [09:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: system administration stuff, or what kind of work? [09:57] _StefanS_: sysadmin probably, but not especially free software... [09:57] _StefanS_: a proprietary/free mix would be nice [09:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: alright [09:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I actually went into magento lately, seems there's alot of business going on in that [09:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: php5 oo [09:58] _StefanS_: hum I'm not a developper, although I know php a bit :) [09:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but eventually some windows/unix administration in between [09:58] yup [09:58] _StefanS_: do they work in france ? [09:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thats the kind of mix I like [09:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nawp, its local in denmark [09:58] hehe :) [09:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but I would be glad to recommended you somewhere if the option comes up [09:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I havent been especially active in kubuntu development lately, maybe I should give up the membership ? [09:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: to make place for someone else [10:00] _StefanS_: bah most ubuntu members aren't active [10:00] <_StefanS_> uhm ok [10:00] <_StefanS_> not too important then [10:00] _StefanS_: yup [10:00] <_StefanS_> well If I got asked, I would definitely make it happen [10:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: if you need some vm's for testing stuff, let me know. I have some ressources handy [10:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: regarding you work situation, or explore new things [10:01] <_StefanS_> if that can help. [10:01] _StefanS_: I have everything I need on my laptop :) [10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: still that old mac book ? :) [10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: or did you get upgraded ? [10:02] _StefanS_: yep :) [10:02] old ? it's 2 year old, not more [10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: the magsafe didn't toast you yet? [10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: heard there has been all sorts of issues [10:02] never had any problem with it [10:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: how do you live with the keyboard and one mouse button ? [10:03] _StefanS_: well I learned the keyboard, nothing else :) [10:03] _StefanS_: the one mouse ? the touchpad is multitouch [10:03] _StefanS_: so I can basically middle and right click with ease [10:03] Tonio_: is polkit-qt in KDE SVN? [10:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yea but thats with a delay, right ? [10:04] it's missing a GPL copy for the examples/ directory [10:04] <_StefanS_> Riddell: thanks for the stickers you sent a while back :) [10:04] Riddell: afaik it's been merged latelly but I'm unsure [10:04] Riddell: atm they've been releasing separare tarballs [10:04] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I've been putting them on my kids so they grow knowing only about kubuntu [10:04] _StefanS_: no delay here, it's pretty real time [10:04] <_StefanS_> uhm ok [10:05] _StefanS_: really it's very comfortable to use, even with linux [10:05] _StefanS_: cool! [10:05] Riddell: right about the licence... will look at kdesvn about where it is right now [10:05] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ah I guess I will go with new thinkpad soon, they work too well for me switch [10:06] Tonio_: it's in kdesupport, I'll add the GPL [10:06] * Tonio_ dreams of a lenovo x301 :) [10:06] <_StefanS_> x301? [10:06] Riddell: great [10:06] _StefanS_: the very best laptop ever [10:06] _StefanS_: imagin a macbook pro inside a macbook air ;) [10:06] _StefanS_: that's pretty much what it is :) [10:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thats a puny little laptop [10:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: 13" screen ? hope you got glasses [10:07] <_StefanS_> oh my. [10:07] _StefanS_: bah it's perfect size imho [10:07] :) [10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: damn, did you see that crashtest they did with it ? haha [10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: still works after crashing a wall [10:08] _StefanS_: nope !! url ? [10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: http://www.laptop4u.dk/varer.php?serie=LenovoX301 [10:08] _StefanS_: bah that's a thinkopad, they're known to be unbreakable [10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: video in the midsection, right [10:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: just look at the wiggliling in slowmo, thats some serious tests for the soldering/board design :D [10:34] ohhh [10:34] nixternal: thanks for reminding me of the name :D [10:34] the other day I was already wondering about it :P [11:06] <\sh> moins [11:07] JontheEchidna: bug 359517 ... last comment [11:07] Launchpad bug 359517 in kdeedu "kstars does not support indi" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359517 [11:07] \sh: yo! baby released yet? [11:07] * apachelogger is awfuly out-of-date on planet matters :D [11:07] <\sh> apachelogger: check my page ,-) then you know ;) [11:08] * apachelogger diggs through 3 browsers to find bookmark [11:08] <\sh> apachelogger: www.sourcecode.de ? ;) [11:08] right, I knew it was something catchy ;-) [11:08] \o/ [11:08] \sh: congrats [11:09] ubercongrats actually, that baby is ubercute [11:09] <\sh> apachelogger: thx :) and what about you? wehrdienst ended? :) [11:09] october that is [11:09] zivildienst lasts 9 months [11:10] <\sh> apachelogger: so everything is now in place that you can deal again with developmentß :) [11:11] well, only development with long-term results, I am not enough around to do KDE relese packaging for example [11:11] <\sh> apachelogger: at least you are back :) and I'm trying now to catch up with everything I missed in the last month [11:12] * apachelogger wouldn't bother TBH :P [11:13] <\sh> hehe [11:14] \sh: \o/ [11:14] welcome back :) [11:14] oh [11:14] \sh: \o/ [11:15] hows te family doing? [11:15] * apachelogger geht verrückt [11:15] *the [11:15] kubotu: np [11:15] apachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 38 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more [11:15] hm [11:15] ah, broken [11:15] apachelogger: who's going to package amarok 2.1 beta 2 for kubuntu? [11:15] no clue [11:15] <\sh> Nightrose: everything is fine...yesterday we went home from hospital..baby is very well and mommy too :) [11:16] great :) [11:16] apachelogger: i'd like to give the package some testing if possible before release [11:18] JontheEchidna: ^^ [11:18] Nightrose: did you use the refactored release script [11:19] apachelogger: i used whatever is in bzr [11:19] updated right before tagging [11:19] refactored version is not in the main branch [11:19] Oo [11:19] because you didn't test it :P [11:19] why not? [11:19] clearly that is a loop [11:19] meh.... [11:20] you should have told me [11:20] * apachelogger writes a testscript [11:20] Nightrose: I told you :P [11:20] no you didn't ;-) [11:20] -.- [11:30] [15:06:20] apachelogger: pong [11:30] [15:06:22] ah [11:30] [15:06:31] Nightrose: I uploadered the refactored release script [11:30] [15:06:54] apachelogger! [11:30] [15:07:50] Nightrose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor give it a try, meet it, discuss it, improve it, brand it, just do something with it :P [11:30] Nightrose: I told yer! [11:30] apachelogger: i didn't get that :/ [11:31] [15:08:01] Mamarok: how are you? [11:31] [15:08:09] how is the sprint going? [11:31] [15:08:14] fine, how are you? [11:31] [15:08:16] apachelogger: hehe cool - i'll give it a try when i am back home [11:31] you more liek forgot it :P [11:31] hmmmmm [11:31] or I thought that was the same I had already checked out [11:32] meh [11:36] ohh [11:36] Nightrose: works very nicely for amarok [11:36] well, obviously I didn't test tagging [11:36] ok cool [11:36] *hug* [11:36] it removes incomplete translations though [11:37] packagernotification is a bit empty IMHO [11:37] Nightrose: just get the branch and run ./amarok2.rb --no-tag [11:38] what's missing in the packagernotification? [11:38] dunno [11:38] currently it lists md5sum, sha1sum, amount of documentations and a list of them, same for translations [11:39] also note that you can set everything via arguments or use a code line in the release script [11:39] see http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/release-refactor.ogv [11:41] ... this also allows to run the script on a machine without kdialog ;-) [11:42] ahhh you mean in the script.. [11:42] i though you were talking about my email [11:42] :D [11:42] * Nightrose checks out the script [11:42] lol [11:54] apachelogger: i get a few of those: [11:54] svn: URL 'svn+ssh://lydia@svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-kde4/ca@valencia/messages/extragear-multimedia' non-existent in that revision [11:55] (with different country codes) [11:55] apachelogger: you know many peoples or can you may give the link i posted in kubuntu-de to all you know [11:55] we need help in this [11:55] apachelogger: and why do i get stuff like: A l10n/libk3bdevice.po [11:55] or kaffeine [11:55] speed [11:56] k [11:56] opening svn connections takes most of the time ages [11:56] and keeping stuff like kipi in mind, which got more than 2 desktop files the difference is about 300% [11:56] k [12:50] nhandler: ok if I take the kdeartwork merge? [12:58] Sure Riddell [12:58] apachelogger: so, amarok 2.1 b2 and kstars? [12:58] i can haz tarball? [13:04] JontheEchidna: amarok beta 2 tarball is on ktown [13:04] do you have access? [13:05] nein [13:05] ok sec - getting a link for you [13:06] see query [13:07] * JontheEchidna wonders what the chances of mysql 5.1 being in main this cycle are === asraniel_ is now known as asraniel [13:14] hiho === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [13:19] apachelogger: release script seems to be ok [13:28] wharghlbrl, archive troubles again: [13:28] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [13:28] libqt4-dev: Depends: libpq-dev but it is not going to be installed === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [13:38] Nightrose: ok, thx [13:46] JontheEchidna: webdev-kde4 is webdev now? [13:46] I think that's what we were doing, with webdev becoming webdev-kde3 [13:47] well [13:47] did we? :P [13:47] * apachelogger is updating batgetorig [13:48] looks like nobody took the webdev merge [13:48] uh [13:49] 4.2.85 is gonna be fun again :D [13:49] .!!!~~~~>Bat get WARNING: ONE OR MORE PATCHES DON'T APPLY PROPERLY [13:49] also phonon is busted in the archive [13:49] can't include Phonon/Global [13:50] boost got fixed though [13:50] busted is state of the art for phonon :P [13:51] ../../../applets/bball/bball.h:35:25: error: Phonon/Global: No such file or directory [13:53] Qt's Phonon build doesn't seem to install the Phonon/Global header, [13:53] this patch allows kdemultimedia to compile [13:53] http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_04_qt_phonon.diff [13:53] probably need something similar to that [13:53] though, I would think that fixing qt's phonon would be of better use :P [13:55] thiago seemed to suggest the patch is the better approach for some reason [13:55] well, global sounds global, if so it would indeed make sense to not use it [13:57] it's a one line file which includes that other one [13:58] Riddell: did you talk to Vir about it? [13:58] no he's not on IRC, hopefully he'll respond on kde-multimedia [13:59] kdelibs5-dev seems uninstallable suddenly in the buildds [14:00] this is not going to help with getting in a state to prepare for alpha 1 tomorrow [14:14] <\sh> Riddell: what's the reason to push out an alpha at this early stage? [14:14] * \sh really needs to catch up with all the mails [14:16] anybody know what james meant in bug 374228? It looks like it was synced already [14:16] Launchpad bug 374228 in strigi "Sync strigi 0.6.5-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374228 [14:16] \sh: what makes you think it's early ;) [14:17] <\sh> davmor2: 2009-04-24 and 2009-05-12 it's not that long ago ;) [14:18] \sh: to ensure things aren't entirely broken? we always do one about now [14:18] hmm... when's the karmic version freeze? [14:18] * Sput should put out quassel-0.5.0 before that [14:19] <\sh> Sput: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule [14:19] ah [14:19] \sh: yeah but you're talking about Ubuntu time here. So that's like 2 months worth of coding time :) [14:19] FeatureFreeze, right? [14:19] Aug 27th then [14:19] well, that's a bit time at least :) [14:20] <\sh> Riddell: hmm..never experienced that...could be that I'm just out of business for some weeks now :( [14:21] \sh: plus it's useful to get a baseline for uds so folks can see how broken, erm wonderful, the new release is :) [14:22] <\sh> davmor2: ok..point taken ;) [14:24] hi [14:24] should kde-l10n from Debian be synced? [14:24] nope [14:25] james_w: here at Kubuntu we have an avertion to 250MB source packages [14:25] thought so [14:25] thanks [14:25] at least I do after it nearly delayed the first Kubuntu release [14:25] I'll blacklist it as well then [14:26] oh thanks, this'll be the first cycle it's been in unstable with that name [14:28] james_w: oh, about the strigi sync, it looks like it's already been synced? I think the bug just was neglected to be closed [14:29] unless I'm missing something [14:29] JontheEchidna: not sure. The scripts just threw it back in my face [14:29] perhaps I interpreted that wrong [14:29] rmadison says it hasn't [14:29] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/0.6.5-1 [14:30] ok [14:30] please close the bug [14:30] ok, just wanted to make sure :) === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [14:52] grr [14:52] quassel is dead under kde-nightly [14:53] kde-nightly-kdepim_20090508+svn965433-0neon1_amd64.deb fails to install [14:58] it appears that amarok and juk are keeping taglib in main [14:58] taglib was synced, and has new Build-Depends [14:59] which means it will fail to rebuild without MIRs for those [14:59] therefore I come here to nag about MIRs [14:59] if anyone sees any flaws in my logic then please redirect me accordingly [15:01] it seems to be a trio of librcd, librcc and enca [15:05] your logic seems logical [15:06] lol [15:07] we also need a MIR for kdenetwork [16:12] plus there is libindi/libfli1 to sort out [16:13] though there may be no actual MIRs required there as indi is in main === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [17:49] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportEnca https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcd https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcc [17:49] james_w: ^^ [17:49] nice, thanks [17:50] they need ubuntu-mir subscribed first though [17:50] done [17:51] thanks [18:04] whee, file conflict bug reports for karmic coming in [18:04] If people are running Karmic they should at least check for duplicates :/ [18:06] can rsync sync from https? [18:06] no, it syncs from rsync [18:06] :S [18:06] ppas need to provide rsync access :D [18:10] :/ [18:15] JontheEchidna: the ninjas ppa needs a good cleanup [18:17] Lunchpad is still doing that timeout thing for me :/ I suppose I can use the workaround [18:18] nasty thingy [18:18] man [18:18] ...except the delete page is timing out too [18:18] use another browser [18:19] apt-mirror clearly doesn't support https + auth [18:19] must not be ruby [18:22] I need advice for the name of new plasmoid package [18:22] plasma-widget-drop-to-imageshack [18:22] or [18:23] plasma-widget-drop2ftp is what we did for the ftp one [18:23] plasma-widget-droptoimageshack [18:23] or upstream name [18:23] plasma-widget-drop2imageshack [18:23] hmm [18:23] one, two or three? :) [18:23] plasma-widget-drop2imageshack if upstream is drop2imageshack [18:24] JontheEchidna: is that make thingy backported yet? [18:24] okey [18:25] hm... that apt-mirror thingy is weird indeed, it auths properly but doesn't know it auths thus gets a wrong cache directory :D [18:25] apachelogger: the makestatus applet? I filed the backport request less than an hour ago [18:25] so soon :) [18:26] slow that is :P [18:26] uhmmm, no..upstream is drop to imageshack, so plasma-widget-droptoimageshack [18:26] JontheEchidna: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop+To+Imageshack?content=104592 [18:27] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop2Imageshack?content=100881 [18:27] LoL [18:27] the first is better [18:27] it seems that whenever X crashes at all it takes down ksmserver with it (bug 332811) [18:27] Launchpad bug 332811 in kdebase-workspace "ksmserver crashed with SIGSEGV in ()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332811 [18:28] my question is, should it be reasonable to expect ksmserver to crash when X crashes? [18:29] *shrug* [18:29] ksmserver probably should detect that X died and quit [18:29] rather than running into a bogus segment and go down like titanic [18:29] it looks like it is dying as it is catching X's crash signal [18:30] where does that signal come from? [18:30] JontheEchidna: anyway, talk to some kdelibs dood in kde-devel [18:43] uh uh uh [18:43] there is a bug [18:46] a bug? oh, how could that happen :P [18:46] python! [18:46] :P [18:46] Packages* files are all b0rked in private ppas [18:47] no wonder apt-mirror ain't getting any grip on packages :D [18:48] heh [18:48] and no cprov to fix it around :| [18:51] ryanakca: any news on the wiki theme? [18:54] * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna in the nose [18:54] when I said cleanup I didn't mean empty it :P [18:58] what did we need that was still in there? [18:58] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-droptoimageshack [18:59] anything, I was looking into mirror capabilties for binary QA :P [18:59] kubotu: np [18:59] apachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 45 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more [18:59] still broken [19:01] Nightrose: is beta1's last.fm login broken or something? [19:01] yes [19:01] should be fixed with beta 2 [19:01] cool [19:01] did they change protocal again? [19:02] dunno what the problem was exactly sorry [19:02] well, it worked until 45 hours ago :D [19:02] * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna into packaging b2 [19:02] umm then something else is wrong [19:02] already packaged ;-) [19:02] uhm [19:02] where? [19:02] his ppa [19:03] hmmmmmmmmmmmmm [19:03] JontheEchidna: why not ninjas? [19:03] * apachelogger would find that more useful :P === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [19:06] 2.0.90 = beta1 ? [19:07] yes [19:07] Oo [19:07] crash on startup [19:07] \o/ [19:07] bah [19:07] damn [19:08] apachelogger: do you have qtscriptbindings installed? [19:08] yus [19:08] and at the right place? [19:08] it happens before that crap gets initialized [19:08] ~np [19:08] awenning is listening to "The Scientist" by Coldplay [A Rush of Blood to the Head, 2006]; see http://www.last.fm/user/awenning for more [19:08] right after it loads sqlcollection.so [19:08] maybe my db is busted [19:08] hmmmmm [19:08] hmm, beta1 looks to work fine with last.fm here [19:09] a|wen: yeah, I just noticed that I downgraded to 2.0.2 [19:09] :P [19:09] which of course raises the question why 2.0.2 fails to lastfmify [19:09] ah well then the problem was in 2.0.2 and not beta 1 [19:09] one of them had problems [19:10] huh [19:10] huuuuuuuh [19:10] so, I moved my amarok data folder => still crash [19:10] moved back and removed all amarok configs => still crash [19:10] not good [19:10] what do we know now: all b0rked [19:10] apachelogger: can you show Nikolaj a backtrace? [19:11] Need to get 109MB of archives. [19:11] * Nightrose needs to do some uni stuff to get anything done at all today [19:11] wooohooo [19:11] apt-mirror is worky [19:13] not so good though [19:14] it will retry every package no matter whether the md5sum changed or not [19:14] which is IMHO a waste of time and a waste of bandwith [19:22] folks anyone here who can help me make my firefox show useful programs for "open with" in the download dialog? [19:23] it being empty is meh [19:23] install gnome [19:24] though that might indeed suggest gnome apps instead [19:24] I think the only feasable solution is not to use firefox [19:24] yea - not actually what i want ;-) [19:24] not an option either ;-) [19:24] though Tonio was looking into working around the problem [19:24] dunno if he got anything useful yet [19:24] it certainly is a PITA to get that working at all [19:24] ok i'll poke him [19:24] thx [19:40] ScottK: ping === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [20:49] !info apturl [20:49] apturl (source: apturl): install packages using the apt protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.3ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 17 kB, installed size 228 kB [20:49] Tscheesy: [20:50] yes.. usefull, is worth to get into the Distri IMO [20:50] hmmmmmmmmmmmmm [20:50] a) it is gnome-only [20:51] b) it should already include into KDE [20:51] bug 227622 [20:51] Launchpad bug 227622 in apturl "apturl protocol support for KDE" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227622 [20:52] also see bug 293533 [20:52] Launchpad bug 293533 in apturl "Better KDE (non-gnome) support for apturl (Was: shouldnt hard depend on synaptic (KDE))" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/293533 [20:53] * Lure notices svn commit for hidden network fix in plasma-network-management, hopes someones packages it for jaunty [20:53] Lure: commit rev.? [20:53] apachelogger : so a protocol seems still be necesary for apt [20:54] a|wen: 966608 [20:54] well [20:54] sec [20:54] a|wen: wstephanson completely re-did hidden stuff [20:54] * Lure has hopes... [20:55] Lure: well, then you are committet to a day of pure testing of it ;) [20:55] apturl: /usr/share/services/apturl.protocol [20:56] Tscheesy: it's KDE 3 only [20:56] ah [20:56] http://forum.kde.org/kontact-kaddressbook-shows-annoying-email-popup-t-46600.html [20:56] a|wen: I will test my hidden+wpa2-enterprise+peap+mschapv2 - this is what I have at work [20:56] When will a fixed be released? [20:56] which is funny though :D [20:56] a|wen: and wpa2-personal at home [20:56] it is more then just annoying [20:56] the fix was committed in september [20:56] at which time we had no KDE 3 anymore :P [20:57] so it actually was not fixed at any point :P [20:57] Lure: if you can get those two to work, i'll be hugely impressed :) [20:57] but i'm an optimist anyway [20:57] Tscheesy: please reopen the first bug and comment that this was only fixed for KDE 3 [20:57] i'll do ;) [20:58] a|wen: wpa2-personal works, but it is not hidden [20:59] apachelogger: No, sadly. Nobody from security ever replied... [20:59] a|wen: complex one does not work (just with nm-applet), but I have high hopes as there are positive reports with same combination, just not hidden newtork [20:59] Lure: do you think everything has stabilized again after the rewriting-hidden? [20:59] ryanakca: I told you, they are busy bees :) [20:59] a|wen: hard to say - I have just seen the commit [21:00] hehe ... then maybe it needs a little more time ;) [21:00] apachelogger: :) [21:00] a|wen: _wstephenson is the person to ask (in #plasma or in #kde-devel) [21:01] Lure: if you can get upstream to be satisfied that it is re-stabilized after rewriting it sometime soon, i'll update the "plasma widget to test" [21:02] * Lure is getting svn checkout in order to try local build... [21:03] Lure: i can throw a build in my PPA for you with -dbg package and all [21:03] a|wen: make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [21:04] it seems I got rusty in my build-from-svn skips ;-) [21:05] a|wen: if you can do ppa dance, I would be more than happy to test [21:06] Lure: uploading in progress... [21:07] a|wen: you are fast! [21:07] heh ... that is why there is no need to local-build it and mess up your system :P [21:07] Lure: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa <--- sometime soon [21:08] sry, https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/experimental [21:09] a|wen: ok, will test wpa2-personal now and problematic combination tommorow morning at work [21:09] a|wen: thanks for packaging [21:10] Lure: cool; if both those work without any problems (and you can test using a cable as well) i'll surely put it in the normal test-run [21:11] a|wen: ok, will report back on results (including cable) [21:13] perfect ... just ping me here (in the hope that my connection doesn't break while i'm away) === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [22:50] lex79: could you test bug 360794 with Qt 4.5.1 please? [22:50] Launchpad bug 360794 in qt4-x11 "linguist-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360794 [22:51] yes, now take phone :) [22:54] so, how's our packages doing? [23:11] hm [23:14] Riddell: can we haz kde integration for ubuntuone? :P [23:15] apachelogger: dropbox-daemon :p [23:16] not that I know of [23:16] ubuntuone works ok here in kde [23:16] uses dolphin and konqueror [23:16] * Nightrose is quite impressed [23:16] oh good, that's an improvement from when I tried it [23:16] sabdfl: ^ very nice! [23:17] the install process could be improved though [23:17] * apachelogger notes that it is installing half the gnome stack on his laptop which is running low on disk space anyway [23:17] hmmm didn't do it here [23:18] maybe because i already have it all on my pc [23:18] oh well [23:18] it depends on apturl [23:18] hrmm, maybe I should setup the ubuntu one then [23:19] and since I found out earlier that apturl is gnome only [23:19] it will obviuosly pull in loads of that [23:19] I think I trust sabdfl with my data over people I don't know :) [23:19] agreed :D [23:19] hehe [23:20] * Nightrose wishes she had enough diskspace for it on her eeepc [23:20] hm [23:20] I like how the .deb is not wgettable [23:28] hm, no too many deps for my system :( === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [23:38] a|wen: it seems network manager applet can connect to hidden networks now [23:38] apachelogger: *grin* ... lovely how Canonical has enough time to setup a big project like Ubuntu One but it takes (a few days under) two months and counting to get a measly wiki theme installed :/ [23:38] might be time for a new snapshot to give it some testing in a day or two [23:39] JontheEchidna: for now in kphotoalbum we keep libkdcrw3? [23:39] Mind you, I guess Ubuntu One brings in money whereas a wiki doesn't... but still... [23:39] lex79: So it's not detecting 7? [23:39] nah nah, kubuntu wiki doesn't :P [23:40] because it's not detecting libkdcraw3 either [23:40] JontheEchidna: no [23:40] PKGCONFIG() indicates that libkdcraw is not installed (install the package which contains libkdcraw.pc if you want to support this feature) [23:40] ryanakca: I actually think it is a good thing if it gets done at some point [23:40] what is ubuntu one? [23:40] Sput: web storage/sync stuff like dropbox [23:41] ubuntuone.com [23:41] k [23:41] ``Ubuntu One is a portfolio of online services designed around the Ubuntu desktop experience. This means that Ubuntu users will soon have a suite of tools that [23:41] +fully link all their desktops with personal and easy-to-use cloud services.'' [23:41] ryanakca: it's not like it is ugent ... we don't have much of a visual apeal anyway ;-) [23:41] Sorry for the paste :) [23:41] apachelogger: No, it isn't urgent... but it is discouraging. [23:42] well, you know the option [23:42] get a server, get an admin, get a wiki, get some openid integration to launchpad, be happy [23:42] JontheEchidna: switch to 7, we take care of after ok? [23:42] sounds good [23:43] ryanakca: still I would consider this overhead a much greater problem than waiting for a security review on wiki theme [23:43] which TBH seems kinda weird anyway [23:43] overhead being Ubuntu One? [23:43] Or getting a new server, etc? [23:43] ryanakca: being maintaining an own wiki [23:44] Yes. Much cheaper just to wait it out... [23:44] ryanakca: just poke someone on IRC [23:45] Where's Hobb.see and her PSOD when you need her ? :) [23:45] apachelogger: I will tomorrow morning, everybody's gone home [23:46] * apachelogger sends Hobbsee some vFlowers so she will be in a good mood when ryanakca asks her about the PSOD [23:47] What happened to it? [23:47] I couldn't tell [23:48] JontheEchidna launchpad bug 375082 [23:48] Launchpad bug 375082 in kphotoalbum "New upstream release 4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375082 [23:48] upload please ;) [23:56] JontheEchidna: linguist-qt4 still crashes