[00:02] <nalioth> dtchen: i'm in no hurry, i'm just reporting what could be a serious issue
[00:31] <JontheEchidna> wharg, boost borkage on kdepim
[00:32] <Riddell> meh
[00:32] <Riddell> I'm not (re)test building these you may have noticed
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> kdesdk fails on boost too
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> I suppose I should investigate since my name is on the package
[00:41] <Riddell> and I /still/ have qt linking here
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> o.o
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> bug 373962
[00:47] <Riddell> clever chap that a|wen
[01:03] <Riddell> uploaded
[01:10] <JontheEchidna> nice
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> I hope, at least, that kdetoys builds :P
[01:13] <dtchen> Riddell: oh, regarding alpine+topal last week: i vaguely (mis?)remember you mentioned being an alpine user. i'm submitting fixes for topal (a gnupg glue), hence the question.
[01:16] <Riddell> dtchen: question?
[01:17] <dtchen> Riddell: yeah, i was wondering if you use both alpine and topal
[01:17] <Riddell> oh no, I actually went back to using mutt
[01:18] <dtchen> ok, answers that. thanks!
[01:18] <Riddell> there was stuff I realised I couldn't do in alpine
[01:27] <JontheEchidna> the biggest diff in our packages between debian is the changelog
[01:28] <JontheEchidna> maybe we should consider dropping the KDE3 portion?
[01:36] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: of what?
[01:37] <Riddell> changelog in kdetoys?
[01:37] <JontheEchidna> in most of the kde package
[01:37] <JontheEchidna> s
[01:38] <JontheEchidna> it bloats the diff up by 2,000 lines at least
[01:38] <Riddell> mm, could do
[01:38] <Riddell> feels like wiping history though
[01:38] <JontheEchidna> yeah...
[01:38] <dtchen> you'll still have the existing changelog delta from previous release(s), tho'
[01:39] <Riddell> harder to get at
[01:39] <dtchen> true
[01:39] <Riddell> we might lose something useful, we have plenty of patches introduced in the kde 3 era
[01:40] <Riddell> something like kdetoys though would be less important
[02:16] <nixternal> Riddell: http://kde.pastey.net/113984  <- for kiconedit to fix bug 335743 and bug 180010
[02:16] <nixternal> kde bug 180010
[02:28]  * Riddell drows in build failures
[02:30] <Riddell> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file kiconediticon.cpp.rej
[02:31] <Riddell> nixternal: a debdiff is much more useful though
[02:32] <Riddell> oh, you wrote the patch
[02:32] <Riddell> isn't there a kiconedit maintainer to review it?
[02:32] <Riddell> time for me to sleep anyway, guid nicht all
[02:34] <nixternal> Riddell: right, that is an upstream patch
[02:34] <imbrandon> gnight Riddell
[02:34] <nixternal> Riddell: I haven't found said person for kiconedit...it seems a community venture now with commits for over the past year plus
[02:34] <nixternal> that has been broken for a year or more
[02:59] <tdapple> Will kubuntu always stay pretty much a vanilla kde?
[03:00] <ScottK> tdapple: Hard to say.  There are proposals that it not that are to be discussed at the next UDS.
[03:01] <tdapple> I hope it stays vanilla, or if they change it make it more modular like kdemod for arch
[03:02] <ScottK> I'm hoping for vanilla or better.  If we can avoid changes that make it worse, it's a win.
[03:03] <tdapple> true....I am trying to find a distro and stick with it...Kubuntu is nice since it's mainly vanilla and most things actually work...well after going to kde 4.2.3
[03:04] <ScottK> There is a commitment to maintain vanilla as an option is they do make some changes, so I think you should be reasonably safe.
[03:04] <ScottK> is/if
[03:05] <tdapple> cool
[04:31] <a|wen> thx Riddell ... i thought someone would need a working boost again sometime :)
[04:59] <nixternal> for karmic, change the kde4.mk in rules to debian-qt-kde.mk?
[05:05] <imbrandon> nixternal: yes
[05:06] <nixternal> to late :p
[05:07] <imbrandon> and depend on pkg-kde-tools
[05:07] <imbrandon> nixternal: too late ?
[05:08] <imbrandon> nixternal: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20090502.191539.246f7aa3.pt-BR.html
[05:10] <nixternal> already made the change and went forward :)
[05:11] <nixternal> I brainfarted when asking the question and knew the answer already
[05:12] <tomsdale> hi, I have an NVidia NVS 160m Gfx with 256MB Ram - in the Xorg.0.log it is reported with (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes
[05:13] <tomsdale> Would this lead to problems if the RAM is reported incorrectly? I do experience random crashes when e.G. loading a 200em header in firefox.
[05:49] <nixternal> I think I have uploaded more packages today than I have total in the past 4 years :)
[08:03] <nixternal> thanks for the kudos apachelogger :)
[08:03] <nixternal> gimme kudos on ohloh you ninjas!
[08:04] <nixternal> don't know why I never signed up there before...I still don't know the purpose of it yet
[08:04] <nixternal> err, you didn't give me kudos apachelogger, I gave you kudos :p
[08:07] <Riddell> kudos nixternal!
[08:07] <nixternal> :)
[08:18] <imbrandon> gnight all
[09:50] <Tonio_> hi there
[09:51] <Riddell> bonjour Tonio_
[09:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: since I have you here... I noticed a little problem with pkg-kde-tools...
[09:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: I have a package that ftbfs for weird reasons when kde4.mk works
[09:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: the issue seems to be with .h file include that fails at some points...
[09:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: that's in the polki-qt package (should be NEW right now)
[09:54] <_StefanS_> Tooonnnnnnnniooooooo!
[09:54] <_StefanS_> :D
[09:54] <Tonio_> also, would be nice if can approve that one since k3b dep waits in the archives :)
[09:54] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: hey :) how are you old friend ?
[09:55] <_StefanS_> _StefanS_: ah, up and down you know
[09:55] <_StefanS_> _StefanS_: how about you ?
[09:55] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: :D
[09:55] <_StefanS_> I must be tired.
[09:55] <Tonio_> hehe
[09:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: still busy with work and stuff?
[09:56] <Riddell> Tonio_: I should approve it even though it fails to build?
[09:56] <Tonio_> I'm fine.... searching for a new job activelly so half away from kubuntu right now
[09:56] <_StefanS_> ah ok
[09:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: it'll work, since I didn't switch to pkg-kde-tools because of that
[09:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll try to fix then will switch
[09:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: system administration stuff, or what kind of work?
[09:57] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: sysadmin probably, but not especially free software...
[09:57] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: a proprietary/free mix would be nice
[09:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: alright
[09:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I actually went into magento lately, seems there's alot of business going on in that
[09:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: php5 oo
[09:58] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: hum I'm not a developper, although I know php a bit :)
[09:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but eventually some windows/unix administration in between
[09:58] <Tonio_> yup
[09:58] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: do they work in france ?
[09:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thats the kind of mix I like
[09:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: nawp, its local in denmark
[09:58] <Tonio_> hehe :)
[09:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: but I would be glad to recommended you somewhere if the option comes up
[09:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I havent been especially active in kubuntu development lately, maybe I should give up the membership ?
[09:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: to make place for someone else
[10:00] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: bah most ubuntu members aren't active
[10:00] <_StefanS_> uhm ok
[10:00] <_StefanS_> not too important then
[10:00] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: yup
[10:00] <_StefanS_> well If I got asked, I would definitely make it happen
[10:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: if you need some vm's for testing stuff, let me know. I have some ressources handy
[10:01] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: regarding you work situation, or explore new things
[10:01] <_StefanS_> if that can help.
[10:01] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: I have everything I need on my laptop :)
[10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: still that old mac book ? :)
[10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: or did you get upgraded ?
[10:02] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: yep :)
[10:02] <Tonio_> old ? it's 2 year old, not more
[10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: the magsafe didn't toast you yet?
[10:02] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: heard there has been all sorts of issues
[10:02] <Tonio_> never had any problem with it
[10:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: how do you live with the keyboard and one mouse button ?
[10:03] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: well I learned the keyboard, nothing else :)
[10:03] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: the one mouse ? the touchpad is multitouch
[10:03] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: so I can basically middle and right click with ease
[10:03] <Riddell> Tonio_: is polkit-qt in KDE SVN?
[10:03] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yea but thats with a delay, right ?
[10:04] <Riddell> it's missing a GPL copy for the examples/ directory
[10:04] <_StefanS_> Riddell: thanks for the stickers you sent a while back :)
[10:04] <Tonio_> Riddell: afaik it's been merged latelly but I'm unsure
[10:04] <Tonio_> Riddell: atm they've been releasing separare tarballs
[10:04] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I've been putting them on my kids so they grow knowing only about kubuntu
[10:04] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: no delay here, it's pretty real time
[10:04] <_StefanS_> uhm ok
[10:05] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: really it's very comfortable to use, even with linux
[10:05] <Riddell> _StefanS_: cool!
[10:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: right about the licence... will look at kdesvn about where it is right now
[10:05] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: ah I guess I will go with new thinkpad soon, they work too well for me switch
[10:06] <Riddell> Tonio_: it's in kdesupport, I'll add the GPL
[10:06]  * Tonio_ dreams of a lenovo x301 :)
[10:06] <_StefanS_> x301?
[10:06] <Tonio_> Riddell: great
[10:06] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: the very best laptop ever
[10:06] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: imagin a macbook pro inside a macbook air ;)
[10:06] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: that's pretty much what it is :)
[10:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thats a puny little laptop
[10:07] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: 13" screen ? hope you got glasses
[10:07] <_StefanS_> oh my.
[10:07] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: bah it's perfect size imho
[10:07] <Tonio_> :)
[10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: damn, did you see that crashtest they did with it ? haha
[10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: still works after crashing a wall
[10:08] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: nope !! url ?
[10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: http://www.laptop4u.dk/varer.php?serie=LenovoX301
[10:08] <Tonio_> _StefanS_: bah that's a thinkopad, they're known to be unbreakable
[10:08] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: video in the midsection, right
[10:09] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: just look at the wiggliling in slowmo, thats some serious tests for the soldering/board design :D
[10:34] <apachelogger> ohhh
[10:34] <apachelogger> nixternal: thanks for reminding me of the name :D
[10:34] <apachelogger> the other day I was already wondering about it :P
[11:06] <\sh> moins
[11:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 359517 ... last comment
[11:07] <apachelogger> \sh: yo! baby released yet?
[11:07]  * apachelogger is awfuly out-of-date on planet matters :D
[11:07] <\sh> apachelogger: check my page ,-) then you know ;)
[11:08]  * apachelogger diggs through 3 browsers to find bookmark
[11:08] <\sh> apachelogger: www.sourcecode.de ? ;)
[11:08] <apachelogger> right, I knew it was something catchy ;-)
[11:08] <apachelogger> \o/
[11:08] <apachelogger> \sh: congrats
[11:09] <apachelogger> ubercongrats actually, that baby is ubercute
[11:09] <\sh> apachelogger: thx :) and what about you? wehrdienst ended? :)
[11:09] <apachelogger> october that is
[11:09] <apachelogger> zivildienst lasts 9 months
[11:10] <\sh> apachelogger: so everything is now in place that you can deal again with developmentß :)
[11:11] <apachelogger> well, only development with long-term results, I am not enough around to do KDE relese packaging for example
[11:11] <\sh> apachelogger: at least you are back :) and I'm trying now to catch up with everything I missed in the last month
[11:12]  * apachelogger wouldn't bother TBH :P
[11:13] <\sh> hehe
[11:14] <Sput> \sh: \o/
[11:14] <Sput> welcome back :)
[11:14] <apachelogger> oh
[11:14] <Nightrose> \sh: \o/
[11:15] <Nightrose> hows te family doing?
[11:15]  * apachelogger geht verrückt
[11:15] <Nightrose> *the
[11:15] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[11:15] <kubotu> apachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 38 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[11:15] <apachelogger> hm
[11:15] <apachelogger> ah, broken
[11:15] <Nightrose> apachelogger: who's going to package amarok 2.1 beta 2 for kubuntu?
[11:15] <apachelogger> no clue
[11:15] <\sh> Nightrose: everything is fine...yesterday we went home from hospital..baby is very well and mommy too :)
[11:16] <Nightrose> great :)
[11:16] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i'd like to give the package some testing if possible before release
[11:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ^^
[11:18] <apachelogger> Nightrose: did you use the refactored release script
[11:19] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i used whatever is in bzr
[11:19] <Nightrose> updated right before tagging
[11:19] <apachelogger> refactored version is not in the main branch
[11:19] <Nightrose> Oo
[11:19] <apachelogger> because you didn't test it :P
[11:19] <Nightrose> why not?
[11:19] <apachelogger> clearly that is a loop
[11:19] <Nightrose> meh....
[11:20] <Nightrose> you should have told me
[11:20]  * apachelogger writes a testscript
[11:20] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I told you :P
[11:20] <Nightrose> no you didn't ;-)
[11:20] <apachelogger> -.-
[11:30] <apachelogger> [15:06:20] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[11:30] <apachelogger> [15:06:22] <apachelogger> ah
[11:30] <apachelogger> [15:06:31] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I uploadered the refactored release script
[11:30] <apachelogger> [15:06:54] <Mamarok> apachelogger!
[11:30] <apachelogger> [15:07:50] <apachelogger> Nightrose: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor give it a try, meet it, discuss it, improve it, brand it, just do something with it :P
[11:30] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I told yer!
[11:30] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i didn't get that :/
[11:31] <apachelogger> [15:08:01] <apachelogger> Mamarok: how are you?
[11:31] <apachelogger> [15:08:09] <apachelogger> how is the sprint going?
[11:31] <apachelogger> [15:08:14] <Mamarok> fine, how are you?
[11:31] <apachelogger> [15:08:16] <Nightrose> apachelogger: hehe cool - i'll give it a try when i am back home
[11:31] <apachelogger> you more liek forgot it :P
[11:31] <Nightrose> hmmmmm
[11:31] <Nightrose> or I thought that was the same I had already checked out
[11:32] <Nightrose> meh
[11:36] <apachelogger> ohh
[11:36] <apachelogger> Nightrose: works very nicely for amarok
[11:36] <apachelogger> well, obviously I didn't test tagging
[11:36] <Nightrose> ok cool
[11:36] <Nightrose> *hug*
[11:36] <apachelogger> it removes incomplete translations though
[11:37] <apachelogger> packagernotification is a bit empty IMHO
[11:37] <apachelogger> Nightrose: just get the branch and run ./amarok2.rb --no-tag
[11:38] <Nightrose> what's missing in the packagernotification?
[11:38] <apachelogger> dunno
[11:38] <apachelogger> currently it lists md5sum, sha1sum, amount of documentations and a list of them, same for translations
[11:39] <apachelogger> also note that you can set everything via arguments or use a code line in the release script
[11:39] <apachelogger> see http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/release-refactor.ogv
[11:41] <apachelogger> ... this also allows to run the script on a machine without kdialog ;-)
[11:42] <Nightrose> ahhh you mean in the script..
[11:42] <Nightrose> i though you were talking about my email
[11:42] <Nightrose> :D
[11:42]  * Nightrose checks out the script
[11:42] <apachelogger> lol
[11:54] <Nightrose> apachelogger: i get a few of those:
[11:54] <Nightrose> svn: URL 'svn+ssh://lydia@svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/l10n-kde4/ca@valencia/messages/extragear-multimedia' non-existent in that revision
[11:55] <Nightrose> (with different country codes)
[11:55] <ghostcube> apachelogger: you know many peoples or can you may give the link i posted in kubuntu-de to all you know
[11:55] <ghostcube> we need help in this
[11:55] <Nightrose> apachelogger: and why do i get stuff like: A    l10n/libk3bdevice.po
[11:55] <Nightrose> or kaffeine
[11:55] <apachelogger> speed
[11:56] <Nightrose> k
[11:56] <apachelogger> opening svn connections takes most of the time ages
[11:56] <apachelogger> and keeping stuff like kipi in mind, which got more than 2 desktop files the difference is about 300%
[11:56] <Nightrose> k
[12:50] <Riddell> nhandler: ok if I take the kdeartwork merge?
[12:58] <nhandler> Sure Riddell
[12:58] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: so, amarok 2.1 b2 and kstars?
[12:58] <JontheEchidna> i can haz tarball?
[13:04] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: amarok beta 2 tarball is on ktown
[13:04] <Nightrose> do you have access?
[13:05] <JontheEchidna> nein
[13:05] <Nightrose> ok sec - getting a link for you
[13:06] <Nightrose> see query
[13:07]  * JontheEchidna wonders what the chances of mysql 5.1 being in main this cycle are
[13:14] <Quintasan|school> hiho
[13:19] <Nightrose> apachelogger: release script seems to be ok
[13:28] <JontheEchidna> wharghlbrl, archive troubles again:
[13:28] <JontheEchidna> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:28] <JontheEchidna>   libqt4-dev: Depends: libpq-dev but it is not going to be installed
[13:38] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ok, thx
[13:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: webdev-kde4 is webdev now?
[13:46] <JontheEchidna> I think that's what we were doing, with webdev becoming webdev-kde3
[13:47] <apachelogger> well
[13:47] <apachelogger> did we? :P
[13:47]  * apachelogger is updating batgetorig
[13:48] <JontheEchidna> looks like nobody took the webdev merge
[13:48] <apachelogger> uh
[13:49] <apachelogger> 4.2.85 is gonna be fun again :D
[13:49] <apachelogger> .!!!~~~~>Bat get WARNING: ONE OR MORE PATCHES DON'T APPLY PROPERLY
[13:49] <JontheEchidna> also phonon is busted in the archive
[13:49] <JontheEchidna> can't include Phonon/Global
[13:50] <JontheEchidna> boost got fixed though
[13:50] <apachelogger> busted is state of the art for phonon :P
[13:51] <JontheEchidna> ../../../applets/bball/bball.h:35:25: error: Phonon/Global: No such file or directory
[13:53] <apachelogger> Qt's Phonon build doesn't seem to install the Phonon/Global header,
[13:53] <apachelogger> this patch allows kdemultimedia to compile
[13:53] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu_04_qt_phonon.diff
[13:53] <apachelogger> probably need something similar to that
[13:53] <apachelogger> though, I would think that fixing qt's phonon would be of better use :P
[13:55] <Riddell> thiago seemed to suggest the patch is the better approach for some reason
[13:55] <apachelogger> well, global sounds global, if so it would indeed make sense to not use it
[13:57] <Riddell> it's a one line file which includes that other one
[13:58] <apachelogger> Riddell: did you talk to Vir about it?
[13:58] <Riddell> no he's not on IRC, hopefully he'll respond on kde-multimedia
[13:59] <Riddell> kdelibs5-dev seems uninstallable suddenly in the buildds
[14:00] <Riddell> this is not going to help with getting in a state to prepare for alpha 1 tomorrow
[14:14] <\sh> Riddell: what's the reason to push out an alpha at this early stage?
[14:14]  * \sh really needs to catch up with all the mails
[14:16] <JontheEchidna> anybody know what james meant in bug 374228? It looks like it was synced already
[14:16] <davmor2> \sh: what makes you think it's early ;)
[14:17] <\sh> davmor2: 2009-04-24 and 2009-05-12 it's not that long ago ;)
[14:18] <Riddell> \sh: to ensure things aren't entirely broken?  we always do one about now
[14:18] <Sput> hmm... when's the karmic version freeze?
[14:18]  * Sput should put out quassel-0.5.0 before that
[14:19] <\sh> Sput: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[14:19] <Sput> ah
[14:19] <davmor2> \sh: yeah but you're talking about Ubuntu time here.  So that's like 2 months worth of coding time :)
[14:19] <Sput> FeatureFreeze, right?
[14:19] <Sput> Aug 27th then
[14:19] <Sput> well, that's a bit time at least :)
[14:20] <\sh> Riddell: hmm..never experienced that...could be that I'm just out of business for some weeks now :(
[14:21] <davmor2> \sh: plus it's useful to get a baseline for uds so folks can see how broken, erm wonderful, the new release is :)
[14:22] <\sh> davmor2: ok..point taken ;)
[14:24] <james_w> hi
[14:24] <james_w> should kde-l10n from Debian be synced?
[14:24] <Riddell> nope
[14:25] <Riddell> james_w: here at Kubuntu we have an avertion to 250MB source packages
[14:25] <james_w> thought so
[14:25] <james_w> thanks
[14:25] <Riddell> at least I do after it nearly delayed the first Kubuntu release
[14:25] <james_w> I'll blacklist it as well then
[14:26] <Riddell> oh thanks, this'll be the first cycle it's been in unstable with that name
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> james_w: oh, about the strigi sync, it looks like it's already been synced? I think the bug just was neglected to be closed
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> unless I'm missing something
[14:29] <james_w> JontheEchidna: not sure. The scripts just threw it back in my face
[14:29] <james_w> perhaps I interpreted that wrong
[14:29] <james_w> rmadison says it hasn't
[14:29] <JontheEchidna> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/strigi/0.6.5-1
[14:30] <james_w> ok
[14:30] <james_w> please close the bug
[14:30] <JontheEchidna> ok, just wanted to make sure :)
[14:52] <Quintasan|irssi> grr
[14:52] <Quintasan|irssi> quassel is dead under kde-nightly
[14:53] <Quintasan|irssi> kde-nightly-kdepim_20090508+svn965433-0neon1_amd64.deb fails to install
[14:58] <james_w> it appears that amarok and juk are keeping taglib in main
[14:58] <james_w> taglib was synced, and has new Build-Depends
[14:59] <james_w> which means it will fail to rebuild without MIRs for those
[14:59] <james_w> therefore I come here to nag about MIRs
[14:59] <james_w> if anyone sees any flaws in my logic then please redirect me accordingly
[15:01] <james_w> it seems to be a trio of librcd, librcc and enca
[15:05] <Riddell> your logic seems logical
[15:06] <Quintasan|irssi> lol
[15:07] <Riddell> we also need a MIR for kdenetwork
[16:12] <james_w> plus there is libindi/libfli1 to sort out
[16:13] <james_w> though there may be no actual MIRs required there as indi is in main
[17:49] <Riddell> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportEnca  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcd https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibrcc
[17:49] <Riddell> james_w: ^^
[17:49] <james_w> nice, thanks
[17:50] <james_w> they need ubuntu-mir subscribed first though
[17:50] <Riddell> done
[17:51] <james_w> thanks
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> whee, file conflict bug reports for karmic coming in
[18:04] <JontheEchidna> If people are running Karmic they should at least check for duplicates :/
[18:06] <apachelogger> can rsync sync from https?
[18:06] <Riddell> no, it syncs from rsync
[18:06] <apachelogger> :S
[18:06] <apachelogger> ppas need to provide rsync access :D
[18:10] <apachelogger> :/
[18:15] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: the ninjas ppa needs a good cleanup
[18:17] <JontheEchidna> Lunchpad is still doing that timeout thing for me :/ I suppose I can use the workaround
[18:18] <apachelogger> nasty thingy
[18:18] <apachelogger> man
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> ...except the delete page is timing out too
[18:18] <apachelogger> use another browser
[18:19] <apachelogger> apt-mirror clearly doesn't support https + auth
[18:19] <apachelogger> must not be ruby
[18:22] <lex79> I need advice for the name of new plasmoid package
[18:22] <lex79> plasma-widget-drop-to-imageshack
[18:22] <lex79> or
[18:23] <JontheEchidna> plasma-widget-drop2ftp is what we did for the ftp one
[18:23] <lex79> plasma-widget-droptoimageshack
[18:23] <lex79> or upstream name
[18:23] <lex79> plasma-widget-drop2imageshack
[18:23] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[18:23] <lex79> one, two or three? :)
[18:23] <Riddell> plasma-widget-drop2imageshack if upstream is drop2imageshack
[18:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: is that make thingy backported yet?
[18:24] <lex79> okey
[18:25] <apachelogger> hm... that apt-mirror thingy is weird indeed, it auths properly but doesn't know it auths thus gets a wrong cache directory :D
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: the makestatus applet? I filed the backport request less than an hour ago
[18:25] <JontheEchidna> so soon :)
[18:26] <apachelogger> slow that is :P
[18:26] <lex79> uhmmm, no..upstream is drop to imageshack, so plasma-widget-droptoimageshack
[18:26] <lex79> JontheEchidna: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop+To+Imageshack?content=104592
[18:27] <lex79> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Drop2Imageshack?content=100881
[18:27] <lex79> LoL
[18:27] <lex79> the first is better
[18:27] <JontheEchidna> it seems that whenever X crashes at all it takes down ksmserver with it (bug 332811)
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> my question is, should it be reasonable to expect ksmserver to crash when X crashes?
[18:29] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[18:29] <apachelogger> ksmserver probably should detect that X died and quit
[18:29] <apachelogger> rather than running into a bogus segment and go down like titanic
[18:29] <JontheEchidna> it looks like it is dying as it is catching X's crash signal
[18:30] <apachelogger> where does that signal come from?
[18:30] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: anyway, talk to some kdelibs dood in kde-devel
[18:43] <apachelogger> uh uh uh
[18:43] <apachelogger> there is a bug
[18:46] <a|wen> a bug? oh, how could that happen :P
[18:46] <apachelogger> python!
[18:46] <apachelogger> :P
[18:46] <apachelogger> Packages* files are all b0rked in private ppas
[18:47] <apachelogger> no wonder apt-mirror ain't getting any grip on packages :D
[18:48] <a|wen> heh
[18:48] <apachelogger> and no cprov to fix it around :|
[18:51] <apachelogger> ryanakca: any news on the wiki theme?
[18:54]  * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna in the nose
[18:54] <apachelogger> when I said cleanup I didn't mean empty it :P
[18:58] <JontheEchidna> what did we need that was still in there?
[18:58] <lex79> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-droptoimageshack
[18:59] <apachelogger> anything, I was looking into mirror capabilties for binary QA :P
[18:59] <apachelogger> kubotu: np
[18:59] <kubotu> apachelogger listened to "Phantom, Part II" by Justice 45 hours ago; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[18:59] <apachelogger> still broken
[19:01] <apachelogger> Nightrose: is beta1's last.fm login broken or something?
[19:01] <Nightrose> yes
[19:01] <Nightrose> should be fixed with beta 2
[19:01] <apachelogger> cool
[19:01] <apachelogger> did they change protocal again?
[19:02] <Nightrose> dunno what the problem was exactly sorry
[19:02] <apachelogger> well, it worked until 45 hours ago :D
[19:02]  * apachelogger pokes JontheEchidna into packaging b2
[19:02] <Nightrose> umm then something else is wrong
[19:02] <Nightrose> already packaged ;-)
[19:02] <apachelogger> uhm
[19:02] <apachelogger> where?
[19:02] <Nightrose> his ppa
[19:03] <apachelogger> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[19:03] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why not ninjas?
[19:03]  * apachelogger would find that more useful :P
[19:06] <a|wen> 2.0.90 = beta1 ?
[19:07] <Nightrose> yes
[19:07] <apachelogger> Oo
[19:07] <apachelogger> crash on startup
[19:07] <apachelogger> \o/
[19:07] <Nightrose> bah
[19:07] <Nightrose> damn
[19:08] <Nightrose> apachelogger: do you have qtscriptbindings installed?
[19:08] <apachelogger> yus
[19:08] <Nightrose> and at the right place?
[19:08] <apachelogger> it happens before that crap gets initialized
[19:08] <a|wen> ~np
[19:08] <kubotu> awenning is listening to "The Scientist" by Coldplay [A Rush of Blood to the Head, 2006]; see http://www.last.fm/user/awenning for more
[19:08] <apachelogger> right after it loads sqlcollection.so
[19:08] <apachelogger> maybe my db is busted
[19:08] <Nightrose> hmmmmm
[19:08] <a|wen> hmm, beta1 looks to work fine with last.fm here
[19:09] <apachelogger> a|wen: yeah, I just noticed that I downgraded to 2.0.2
[19:09] <a|wen> :P
[19:09] <apachelogger> which of course raises the question why 2.0.2 fails to lastfmify
[19:09] <Nightrose> ah well then the problem was in 2.0.2 and not beta 1
[19:09] <Nightrose> one of them had problems
[19:10] <apachelogger> huh
[19:10] <apachelogger> huuuuuuuh
[19:10] <apachelogger> so, I moved my amarok data folder => still crash
[19:10] <apachelogger> moved back and removed all amarok configs => still crash
[19:10] <Nightrose> not good
[19:10] <apachelogger> what do we know now: all b0rked
[19:10] <Nightrose> apachelogger: can you show Nikolaj a backtrace?
[19:11] <apachelogger> Need to get 109MB of archives.
[19:11]  * Nightrose needs to do some uni stuff to get anything done at all today
[19:11] <apachelogger> wooohooo
[19:11] <apachelogger> apt-mirror is worky
[19:13] <apachelogger> not so good though
[19:14] <apachelogger> it will retry every package no matter whether the md5sum changed or not
[19:14] <apachelogger> which is IMHO a waste of time and a waste of bandwith
[19:22] <Nightrose> folks anyone here who can help me make my firefox show useful programs for "open with" in the download dialog?
[19:23] <Nightrose> it being empty is meh
[19:23] <apachelogger> install gnome
[19:24] <apachelogger> though that might indeed suggest gnome apps instead
[19:24] <apachelogger> I think the only feasable solution is not to use firefox
[19:24] <Nightrose> yea - not actually what i want ;-)
[19:24] <Nightrose> not an option either ;-)
[19:24] <apachelogger> though Tonio was looking into working around the problem
[19:24] <apachelogger> dunno if he got anything useful yet
[19:24] <apachelogger> it certainly is a PITA to get that working at all
[19:24] <Nightrose> ok i'll poke him
[19:24] <Nightrose> thx
[19:40] <seele> ScottK: ping
[20:49] <apachelogger> !info apturl
[20:49] <apachelogger> Tscheesy:
[20:50] <Tscheesy> yes.. usefull, is worth to get into the Distri IMO
[20:50] <apachelogger> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[20:50] <apachelogger> a) it is gnome-only
[20:51] <apachelogger> b) it should already include into KDE
[20:51] <apachelogger> bug 227622
[20:52] <apachelogger> also see bug 293533
[20:53]  * Lure notices svn commit for hidden network fix in plasma-network-management, hopes someones packages it for jaunty
[20:53] <a|wen> Lure: commit rev.?
[20:53] <Tscheesy> apachelogger :  so a protocol seems still be necesary for apt
[20:54] <Lure> a|wen: 966608
[20:54] <apachelogger> well
[20:54] <apachelogger> sec
[20:54] <Lure> a|wen: wstephanson completely re-did hidden stuff
[20:54]  * Lure has hopes...
[20:55] <a|wen> Lure: well, then you are committet to a day of pure testing of it ;)
[20:55] <apachelogger> apturl: /usr/share/services/apturl.protocol
[20:56] <apachelogger> Tscheesy: it's KDE 3 only
[20:56] <Tscheesy> ah
[20:56] <janmalte> http://forum.kde.org/kontact-kaddressbook-shows-annoying-email-popup-t-46600.html
[20:56] <Lure> a|wen: I will test my hidden+wpa2-enterprise+peap+mschapv2 - this is what I have at work
[20:56] <janmalte> When will a fixed be released?
[20:56] <apachelogger> which is funny though :D
[20:56] <Lure> a|wen: and wpa2-personal at home
[20:56] <janmalte> it is more then just annoying
[20:56] <apachelogger> the fix was committed in september
[20:56] <apachelogger> at which time we had no KDE 3 anymore :P
[20:57] <apachelogger> so it actually was not fixed at any point :P
[20:57] <a|wen> Lure: if you can get those two to work, i'll be hugely impressed :)
[20:57] <a|wen> but i'm an optimist anyway
[20:57] <apachelogger> Tscheesy: please reopen the first bug and comment that this was only fixed for KDE 3
[20:57] <Tscheesy> i'll do ;)
[20:58] <Lure> a|wen: wpa2-personal works, but it is not hidden
[20:59] <ryanakca> apachelogger: No, sadly. Nobody from security ever replied...
[20:59] <Lure> a|wen: complex one does not work (just with nm-applet), but I have high hopes as there are positive reports with same combination, just not hidden newtork
[20:59] <a|wen> Lure: do you think everything has stabilized again after the rewriting-hidden?
[20:59] <apachelogger> ryanakca: I told you, they are busy bees :)
[20:59] <Lure> a|wen: hard to say - I have just seen the commit
[21:00] <a|wen> hehe ... then maybe it needs a little more time ;)
[21:00] <ryanakca> apachelogger: :)
[21:00] <Lure> a|wen: _wstephenson is the person to ask (in #plasma or in #kde-devel)
[21:01] <a|wen> Lure: if you can get upstream to be satisfied that it is re-stabilized after rewriting it sometime soon, i'll update the "plasma widget to test"
[21:02]  * Lure is getting svn checkout in order to try local build...
[21:03] <a|wen> Lure: i can throw a build in my PPA for you with -dbg package and all
[21:03] <Lure> a|wen: make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[21:04] <Lure> it seems I got rusty in my build-from-svn skips ;-)
[21:05] <Lure> a|wen: if you can do ppa dance, I would be more than happy to test
[21:06] <a|wen> Lure: uploading in progress...
[21:07] <Lure> a|wen: you are fast!
[21:07] <a|wen> heh ... that is why there is no need to local-build it and mess up your system :P
[21:07] <a|wen> Lure: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa <--- sometime soon
[21:08] <a|wen> sry, https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/experimental
[21:09] <Lure> a|wen: ok, will test wpa2-personal now and problematic combination tommorow morning at work
[21:09] <Lure> a|wen: thanks for packaging
[21:10] <a|wen> Lure: cool; if both those work without any problems (and you can test using a cable as well) i'll surely put it in the normal test-run
[21:11] <Lure> a|wen: ok, will report back on results (including cable)
[21:13] <a|wen> perfect ... just ping me here (in the hope that my connection doesn't break while i'm away)
[22:50] <JontheEchidna> lex79: could you test bug 360794 with Qt 4.5.1 please?
[22:51] <lex79> yes, now take phone :)
[22:54] <Riddell> so, how's our packages doing?
[23:11] <apachelogger> hm
[23:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: can we haz kde integration for ubuntuone? :P
[23:15] <nixternal> apachelogger: dropbox-daemon :p
[23:16] <Riddell> not that I know of
[23:16] <Nightrose> ubuntuone works ok here in kde
[23:16] <Nightrose> uses dolphin and konqueror
[23:16]  * Nightrose is quite impressed
[23:16] <Riddell> oh good, that's an improvement from when I tried it
[23:16] <Nightrose> sabdfl: ^ very nice!
[23:17] <Nightrose> the install process could be improved though
[23:17]  * apachelogger notes that it is installing half the gnome stack on his laptop which is running low on disk space anyway
[23:17] <Nightrose> hmmm didn't do it here
[23:18] <Nightrose> maybe because i already have it all on my pc
[23:18] <apachelogger> oh well
[23:18] <apachelogger> it depends on apturl
[23:18] <nixternal> hrmm, maybe I should setup the ubuntu one then
[23:19] <apachelogger> and since I found out earlier that apturl is gnome only
[23:19] <apachelogger> it will obviuosly pull in loads of that
[23:19] <nixternal> I think I trust sabdfl with my data over people I don't know :)
[23:19] <apachelogger> agreed :D
[23:19] <Nightrose> hehe
[23:20]  * Nightrose wishes she had enough diskspace for it on her eeepc
[23:20] <apachelogger>  hm
[23:20] <apachelogger> I like how the .deb is not wgettable
[23:28] <apachelogger> hm, no too many deps for my system :(
[23:38] <Nightrose> a|wen: it seems network manager applet can connect to hidden networks now
[23:38] <ryanakca> apachelogger: *grin* ... lovely how Canonical has enough time to setup a big project like Ubuntu One but it takes (a few days under) two months and counting to get a measly wiki theme installed :/
[23:38] <Nightrose> might be time for a new snapshot to give it some testing in a day or two
[23:39] <lex79> JontheEchidna: for now in kphotoalbum we keep libkdcrw3?
[23:39] <ryanakca> Mind you, I guess Ubuntu One brings in money whereas a wiki doesn't... but still...
[23:39] <JontheEchidna> lex79: So it's not detecting 7?
[23:39] <apachelogger> nah nah, kubuntu wiki doesn't :P
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> because it's not detecting libkdcraw3 either
[23:40] <lex79> JontheEchidna: no
[23:40] <lex79> PKGCONFIG() indicates that libkdcraw is not installed (install the package which contains libkdcraw.pc if you want to support this feature)
[23:40] <apachelogger> ryanakca: I actually think it is a good thing if it gets done at some point
[23:40] <Sput> what is ubuntu one?
[23:40] <apachelogger> Sput: web storage/sync stuff like dropbox
[23:41] <apachelogger> ubuntuone.com
[23:41] <Sput> k
[23:41] <ryanakca> ``Ubuntu One is a portfolio of online services designed around the Ubuntu desktop experience. This means that Ubuntu users will soon have a suite of tools that
[23:41] <ryanakca> +fully link all their desktops with personal and easy-to-use cloud services.''
[23:41] <apachelogger> ryanakca: it's not like it is ugent ... we don't have much of a visual apeal anyway ;-)
[23:41] <ryanakca> Sorry for the paste :)
[23:41] <ryanakca> apachelogger: No, it isn't urgent... but it is discouraging.
[23:42] <apachelogger> well, you know the option
[23:42] <apachelogger> get a server, get an admin, get a wiki, get some openid integration to launchpad, be happy
[23:42] <lex79> JontheEchidna: switch to 7,  we take care of after ok?
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> sounds good
[23:43] <apachelogger> ryanakca: still I would consider this overhead a much greater problem than waiting for a security review on wiki theme
[23:43] <apachelogger> which TBH seems kinda weird anyway
[23:43] <ryanakca> overhead being Ubuntu One?
[23:43] <ryanakca> Or getting a new server, etc?
[23:43] <apachelogger> ryanakca: being maintaining an own wiki
[23:44] <ryanakca> Yes. Much cheaper just to wait it out...
[23:44] <apachelogger> ryanakca: just poke someone on IRC
[23:45] <ryanakca> Where's Hobb.see and her PSOD when you need her ? :)
[23:45] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I will tomorrow morning, everybody's gone home
[23:46]  * apachelogger sends Hobbsee some vFlowers so she will be in a good mood when ryanakca asks her about the PSOD
[23:47] <ryanakca> What happened to it?
[23:47] <apachelogger> I couldn't tell
[23:48] <lex79> JontheEchidna launchpad bug 375082
[23:48] <lex79> upload please ;)
[23:56] <lex79> JontheEchidna: linguist-qt4 still crashes