[00:00] does anyone know how to remove a release? [00:05] ub3rst4r: there is a little trashcan icon up near the top of the page [00:06] thanks [00:06] it doesnt have it [00:09] ub3rst4r: I see it on my release pages at the end of the 'Released' row in the table at the top of the release page. [00:09] Make sure you're on the actual release page, not on the lists of releases. [00:10] Oh, it's also at the top of that page. [00:10] Ah, no, that deletes the milestone. [00:10] That is confusing. [00:10] beuno: If you're around, what do you think of that? [00:29] and milestones... [00:30] im trying to attach a bug report to one but its not listed [00:32] ub3rst4r: A milestone won't show up in the list on a bug report if it's inactive. It will be inactive if you've created a release from it. [00:32] You can reactivate it, if you wish. [00:33] ahh duh [00:54] hello all [00:57] Not even 10am, and I've reported 8 bugs against Launchpad already :( [00:57] wgrant: score === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [00:58] wgrant, Are there any bugs re: karma at the moment? [00:58] cody-somerville: What about it? [00:58] My karma is degrading faster than I can gain it now [00:58] I haven't seen any bugs about that. [00:59] Things are probably still out of balance after Soyuz karma appeared, but that shouldn't affect depreciation AFAICT. [00:59] I find my bzr commits give me almost nothing it seems [01:00] cody-somerville: the karma score isn't calculated until a daily script runs [01:00] thumper, I know [01:00] but my karma has been going down and not up anymore :P [01:00] cody-somerville: then work harder :P [01:00] Code karma is worth a lot less than a few months ago, because there's so much more of it now. [01:01] Although it's still almost half of my total. [01:01] Maybe I need to do some uploads [01:03] Or just create a couple of blueprints. You'll never have to work again. [01:04] indeed [01:04] work on answers helps nicely for karma too. /me is currently the #6 launchpad contributor ;-) [01:06] Does dogfood still accept PPA uploads? staging of course doesn't... [01:44] spm:is it just me or does https://lists.ubuntu.com/ not respond? [01:44] specifically https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/bazaar [01:46] poolie: trying [01:46] poolie: no not just you. chlorine is dead. time to ring james... [01:46] :/ [01:46] spm: strangely enough actual mail still seems to be getting through at least until recently? [01:47] poolie: it appears to have died about 25 mins ago. so... [01:47] i guess it's not the most awful possible time for london [01:48] 2am [01:48] I have to wonder you consider the most awful possible time ;) [01:48] 4am is pretty bad [01:48] he knew and is working on it atm [01:50] ah i forgot they're +1 now [01:50] i think about 3-4 is the worst [02:01] i wonder if it would be any faster to serve the icing and css from the same vhost as the page you're looking at [02:02] thereby potentially avoiding some ssl connections [02:02] yes, except you'd then download it per host [02:02] swings & roundabouts I suspect [02:24] lifeless: if it's being kept in the memory cache? [02:25] i guess sprites would make that stronger [02:47] hi [02:48] i'm trying to upload the same package (taken from debian, with no modifications) in my ppa, for intrepid and jaunty [02:48] i've added the appropriate "/intrepid/" and "/jaunty/" to the incoming variable in the dput.cf [02:48] but .. the second has been rejected... [02:49] File ... .diff.gz already exists. [02:49] have you rebuilt it (dpkg-buildpackage -S) [02:49] i built it with it..... i dit a debuild -S -sd [02:49] *did* [02:49] you need to do that and change the changelog too [02:49] the target is in the changelog [02:49] not indput [02:50] lifeless: i don't need to do any change to the package. so i don't change the changelog file [02:50] ninix: unfortunately you are wrong :) [02:51] does the -sd could be the problem ? [02:51] lifeless: we can specify the different path in the dput [02:52] why should I add a ... fake entry in the changelog if i've made no change :/ [02:52] you don't need to add an entry [02:52] you needto change the target [02:53] ha [02:53] i can do that ? just change the codename and that's it ? [02:54] assuming it builds ok yes [02:54] emm ok [02:54] thx [03:02] no, that change nothing [03:02] we can't just change the codename [03:04] i'll need to change the version for each codename o_O [03:23] ninix: Whatyou can do is upload to the oldest series, and copy to the new ones. But you'll need to check that it doesn't actually need rebuilding in the new ones. [03:24] That's how we do it in Ubuntu - most of the binaries in each release were copied from the previous release. [03:26] wgrant: do you have numbers or an intuition for how many packages do/don't get rebuilt for each release? [03:26] I do - I generate those lists myself, and they're available somewhere on qa.ubuntuwire.org... let me find them. [03:28] wgrant: btw, thanks for recommending evolution [03:28] seems less annoying so far than tbird [03:29] mwhudson: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/unchanged/ [03:30] mwhudson: Right, that's what I thought... I've been trying it periodically for years, and finally found it to be workable. [03:31] wgrant: ta [06:16] spm: have you seen the two recent posts about launchpad oopses? [06:16] to l-users [06:17] it seems to be working for me though [06:17] poolie: nope. but looking now... [06:23] hey, for the launchpad question/answer system, are the questions present on a newsgroup server? [06:23] it would be easier to use than the web id assume... === abentley1 is now known as abentley [06:31] noshelter: 1. not that I'm aware of and would be highly surprised if it was. and 2. you can use email as well. having said that, I personally prefer the web ui (tho will deny having said so if beuno ever reads this). is just easier to get around - for me - to the various tasks the questions refer to. ymmv. [06:32] thx spm, good to know :) [06:39] poolie: we don't appear to be doing worse than usual (gee isn't that nicely phrased... :-) ) at the moment? [06:40] the 2nd email appears to be referencing the issues we had until our sat [06:40] ... well till hopefully our sat when tom pushed out the latest CP with fixes for it. [07:26] spm: The 57000 of the one OOPS in a day issues? [07:26] That's fixed now? [07:27] wgrant: if we're talking the same "problem" (was 3 related ones aiui) - hopefully yes. [07:28] spm: Good, good. [07:28] Should it be removed from the topic? [07:31] checking what actually went out on sat - and if it addresses that bug. certainly francis' discussion reflects the one I saw fri morning. [07:31] wgrant: yes, I think it can. we are seeing some translation issues atm - but only on edge. === spm changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [07:51] Hi, anyone in here familiar with the build system? I get a an error with sed-expressions which I don't get in Ubuntu and wondering whats different? [07:54] scuba-: You might want to post a link to your build log. [08:07] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26534074/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.openttd_0.7.0~svn20090509~r16261~ppa1~jaunty4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [09:46] staging's broken? [10:03] * apw notes he has just been warned that his membership of a group was about to expire. and that he was given 6 days warning only. if i had been on vacation ... i'd have been expired before i even saw the first of the daily warnings ?? is this expected behaviour or broken? [10:05] apw: don't go on vacation? ;-) [10:05] heh [10:34] apw: That's normal behaviour. File a bug asking for something more - maybe a one-month warning as well? [10:34] wgrant, ack [10:38] I tried to add a new project using the link on the frontpage on edge.lp.net and got OOPS-1227EA81 [10:39] I tried going to just +new instead of +new-guided and it brought me to a login form === bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: bigjools | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [10:44] MTecknology: can you file a bug about that please [10:53] bigjools: I'm going to take a nap, but I will when I wake up :) [10:53] MTecknology: I'm jealous :) [10:53] no you're not... [10:54] It's 04:53 and I woke up for work 20:00. I have about 4hr nap after work [10:55] and the pads on the bottom of my laptop are worn out. I ordered a new battery for the thing a 5 months ago and I'm still fighting to get it... [10:55] g'night :) [11:54] hi [11:54] does a team renaming applies the change to the associated mailing list ? [12:20] joaopinto: I'm not sure, but I can find out for you, one moment === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [13:20] wgrant: just checked now, re bug 372165. it's possible it took a little while for the change to land on staging. [13:20] Launchpad bug 372165 in launchpad-registry "Misleading error message leads users to do silly things" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/372165 === danilos is now known as danilo-afk [13:28] barry: I still see the problematic error on staging now: "Select all licenses for this software or select Other/Proprietary or Other/Open Source." === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:44] barry: To clarify, the subject of that bug is the error message, not the caption of the mass of checkboxes. [13:50] I'm getting consistent oopes when changing the branding of a lp project: (Error ID: OOPS-1227EC134) any insight? (2 projects worked, 1 didn't) [13:58] hrm [13:58] ShortListTooBigError: Hard limit of 1000 exceeded. [13:58] sinzui, flacoste, does that sound familiar? ^ [13:58] no familiar [13:58] oh [13:59] jblount, I'd say file a bug with that OOOPs ID [13:59] beuno: jblount it may be the same error I get when I review the license of launchpad itself. we cannot make a snapshot to complete the transaction [14:00] jblount: which project? [14:00] sinzui, "ubunet" apparently [14:00] beuno: yes [14:04] wgrant: thanks, reopening === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [14:16] sinzui, beuno: #374867 [14:16] jblount, thanks [14:16] thannk [14:16] :D [14:21] sinzu, beuno, jblount: that sounds like a call site that shouldn't use shortlist somehow [14:22] flacoste: I suspect that is the case. === asac_ is now known as asac [16:16] I'm getting a "Not allowed here" when I visit code.launchpad.net or code.edge.launchpad.net (just the front page) [16:17] it seems to only happen when I'm logged in [16:18] flacoste, ^ [16:18] kiko, ^ [16:18] radix, do you get an OOPS ID? [16:18] it's a problem in the code which is fetching private projects in the cloud [16:19] no, it's just "Not allowed here" header [16:19] and [16:19] Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. [16:19] You are logged in as Christopher Armstrong. [16:19] kiko: we don't show OOPS id on unauthorized page [16:19] radix, hmmm [16:19] flacoste, we could though [16:19] anyway, matsubara, help me find that OOPS ID when it shows up? [16:20] kiko: I think we don't log them anymore. [16:21] matsubara: we do [16:21] matsubara: when the user is logged in [16:21] ah ok [16:24] need me to do it again? [16:25] radix: that's probably bug 342467. I'm waiting the oopses to sync to devpad [16:25] Launchpad bug 342467 in launchpad-code "code.launchpad.net returns a forbidden error" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342467 [16:28] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1227EA183 [16:28] kiko: radix ^ [16:29] thanks matsubara [16:29] * MTecknology tickles kiko [16:30] hey MTecknology [16:30] did you ever answer me about those projects the last time I asked you? [16:30] I certainly didn't do anything about them! [16:30] yup [16:30] go for it [16:31] thanks [16:31] :) === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [16:34] matsubara, the root cause is we are attempting to display a private branch on that page to a person who can't see it [16:35] yay for security wrappers [16:35] kiko: yeah, I added that OOPS to the bug report and set it to high. I'll ask someone from Code to have a look [16:36] thanks matsubara and radix === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [16:37] sure thing === bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com [17:02] bigjools: have a good day :) [17:02] MTecknology: thanks :) time for my medication === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [17:10] Hello [17:11] ping asac (refered by Joey Stanford) [17:11] I have a question about firefox translations in launchpad [17:12] anybody here? [17:14] LaPingvino1: sure. anything secret? otherwise i prefer #ubuntu-mozillateam on irc.freenode.net for ffox discussions. [17:14] oops [17:14] ;) === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [17:14] LaPingvino1: yeah. so #ubuntu-mozilateam would be better [17:15] sorry, new here in the ubuntu irc [17:15] LaPingvino1: thats fine [17:23] How can i solve this error: (same version already has published binaries in the destination archive) when i try to copy a packages from intrepid to jaunty [17:23] i've deleted all packages in jaunty [17:24] ninix, bump the version [17:24] ninix: it means that your source is already built in the same PPA, you need to copy binaries as well [17:25] ok, so i have to select copy existing binaries 6 [17:26] yep [17:27] ninix: if copying binaries is not the right thing for you, then bump the version and upload a new source as beuno says [17:27] ok, that's worked. But why the source has been built for jaunty? if i explicitly uploaded it in /myppa/ubuntu/intrepid/ [17:28] ninix: it's an artifact of using a pool-based repository, you can't have the same binaries in there twice [17:28] copying binaries implies that everything built properly in jaunty also? [17:28] it simply re-publishes the same source and binaries in jaunty [17:30] Hmm.. that doesn't sound safe [17:30] ninix: well it's what happens when a new Ubuntu series opens :) [17:30] i would prefer that launchpad retry to build it in jaunty to be sure [17:31] ninix: then you need to upload a new source with a higher version, targeted to jaunty [17:32] Ok, i thought i could do that, with the copy option. (I know that the source build properly in jaunty), but it needs to be rebuild [17:33] ninix: it prevents the copy because it would generate the same binary package versions that were already in the pool, but likely with different contents, so would fail to upload the build, [17:34] k [17:34] it's quite valid to build for an older series and promote the packages to newer ones [17:35] as long as the binary works, of course [17:36] yeak === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === beuno_ is now known as beuno [18:38] How can I make my PPA a signed PPA? [18:39] Jordan_U, it will sign all packages as soon as you upload the first one [18:41] beuno: Odd, a few days ago I didn't see the "This repository is signed with..." message on my PPA page a few days ago, I guess I just missed it because it's there now :) [18:42] Jordan_U, it triggers signing it after the first package is uploaded [18:43] beuno: I had uploaded a package, I probably just missed the message somehow [18:43] it also takes some time to generate the signing key. [18:43] 4 minutes for the creation, and a 20 minute cronjob, iirc [18:44] How can I remove a PPA? [18:45] cprov: ping [18:47] Jordan_U: ifw, you can't. What's your problem ? [18:47] Jordan_U: you can just leave it there ... and create a new one, the same signing key will be used for signing packages in the new PPA [18:48] cprov: I created a PPA named "test" just for experimentation, I'd like to get rid of it though it's not really important [18:48] Jordan_U: obviously you can delete all packages yourself and 'start again' [18:49] Jordan_U: oh, right, leave it alone. [18:49] cprov: Any reason why PPAs can't be removed? [18:50] cprov: the Packages* files of private PPAs are pretty broken ... take a glimps at kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/ for example [18:50] Jordan_U: few, one of then is that it involved disk operations. [18:51] apachelogger: empty [18:51] exactly :) [18:52] works for normal ppas though http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/ [18:52] mrevell, hi, I got my launchpad shirt today, thanks a lot [18:52] cprov: I suppose there is no quick fix? [18:53] apachelogger: fix for what ? [18:53] cprov: the files being empty [18:53] apachelogger: is there anything published in jaunty ? [18:53] cprov: yes, also in intrepid, neither of them is working [18:54] apachelogger: I can't view your P3A [18:54] ah [18:54] cprov: maybe I am wrong [18:54] apparently jontheechidna did nuke them all [18:54] cprov: sorry, for the noise :) [18:54] apachelogger: check the PPA page, it will tell you [18:54] apachelogger: cool, np. [19:34] so, for those of you on edge, you will probably be able to edit bug tags inline tomorrow [19:34] you can send chocolates to intellectronica and mars [19:44] can you please send lettuce instead? i'm on a diet [19:45] intellectronica: whereto? [19:45] chocolate lettuce for intellectronica then [19:45] eeeew [19:45] LarstiQ: anywhere in the world, really. sooner or later there will be a sprint there and i'll pick it up [19:45] intellectronica: lol [19:46] intellectronica: I'll bring it with me to EuroPython then [19:47] LarstiQ: is it in the uk this year? i might even go [19:47] intellectronica: indeed it is. [19:59] Anyone know if there is a problem with mailing list password reminders? I have tried a bunch of times over the past week to get a reminder for https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/options/ubuntu-art but it never comes [19:59] So unfortunately I can't change my address to the correct one so I can respond [20:00] mthaddon, ^ [20:00] barry, ^ [20:00] beuno: those are ubuntu mailing lists, not LP mailing lists [20:01] ah [20:01] mthaddon: that's what i was going to say :) [20:01] elmo, ^ :) [20:01] oh ok [20:01] there are too many types of mailing lists :) [20:01] where might I go for support in that arena? [20:02] mrooney: your best bet would be to check in #canonical-sysadmin [20:02] mrooney: and/or file an RT ("please mail requests to rt@ubuntu.com") === ripps_ is now known as ripps [21:06] On the /+activereviews page, there's "Reviews I need to do" and "Reviews I can do". How are they defined (and thus: what's the difference)? [21:08] soren, when s review was explictely requested from you [21:08] soren: reviews you need to do were requested specifically from you. reviews you can do are ones you have the option to review, because you're a member of a team [21:09] beuno, intellectronica: Ah, I see. Thanks. [21:12] I have a question regarding PPA... how do you produce the P_V_source.changes file? [21:13] It should be produced by the same process which builds the .dsc, tar.gz and diff.gz [21:13] maxb: with pbuilder? [21:14] for me that is bzr-builddeb invoking debuild invoking dpkg-buildpackage invoking.. [21:14] pace_t_zulu: pdebuild would do that I think [21:14] LarstiQ: thank you [21:14] Whatever your build environment, it eventually involves something running dpkg-buildpackage [21:17] maxb: thank you [21:18] pbuilder doesn't seem to do everything needed for launchpad [21:18] nor does pdebuild [21:19] Are you really not getting a .changes file? [21:20] i do but it is not signed [21:20] and it has the old version number [21:21] um. You must have done something wrong then [21:21] `debsign` is the tool used (under the hood) for signing .changes files [21:21] Anyway pbuilder is overkill for building a source package for upload, IMO [21:21] the old version number though.. [21:21] I would use just dpkg-buildpackage -S [21:23] http://paste.ubuntu.com/169938/ [21:23] that's the error i guet [21:23] maxb: will try dpkg-buildpackage -S [21:25] pace_t_zulu: As launchpad only accepts source uploads, you must have a _source.changes for it to accept it [21:25] practically that means building the source with and -S flag "source only build" [21:25] maxb: thank you [21:26] maxb: will do the 'dpkg-buildpackage -S' as soon as the build deps are installed [21:26] You may or may not also need -sa or -sd [21:27] These specify whether to include the .orig.tar.gz, or to omit it because it can already be found in your PPA or in Ubuntu itself [21:37] maxb: i have a new problem [21:37] will pastbin [21:38] maxb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/169946/ [21:39] maxb: right at the end when gpg gets involved [21:40] This simply means that the username and email found in the changelog entry do not have a secret key available matching them [21:40] Change the changelog entry footer to match the identity of your key, or manually specify the keyid (-k) [21:41] You can use debsign to sign the produced package after the build, rather than rebuilding [21:41] hi I got this error: File linux_2.6.28-11.42.diff.gz already exists in PPA, but uploaded version has different content. How do I fix it? [21:41] Shock: bump the version [21:41] cant [21:42] what else? [21:42] maxb: so should I produce a new debdiff? [21:42] Shock: Once you have uploaded any versioned file to an archive, you can never change it [21:42] :/ [21:42] maxb: huh?\ [21:43] that's kinda nasty [21:43] No it's not [21:43] why is it useful? [21:43] It's fundamental to having version numbers actually be reliable identifiers of packages [21:44] that's like saying people are morons and we don't trust them with version numbers :) [21:44] there's gotta be a way to fix this [21:45] Shock: the normal thing to do is bump the version, why is that not an option? [21:45] LarstiQ: if I bump the version the build will fail (version ABI checks) [21:46] it checks the version of the package? *blinks* [21:47] Shock: I'm not suggesting you bump the upstream version, but the packaging version. [21:47] LarstiQ: it checks the changelog version [21:47] oh wow [21:47] LarstiQ: is there another way to bump the version without involving the changelog? [21:47] Shock: But only the "11" bit of it, no? [21:47] maxb: unfortunately np [21:48] s/np/no/ [21:48] Shock: no [21:50] is it ok to paste 2 lines? [21:51] Shock: 2 lines sounds sane [21:52] EE: Previous or current ABI file missing! [21:52] prevabidir: /build/buildd/linux-2.6.28/debian/abi/2.6.28-11.42ubuntu1/amd64/generic [21:52] that's what happens when I bump the version [21:53] that's a shame [21:53] * LarstiQ doesn't know about kernel build specifics [21:53] might be a kernel build system bug, but i'm too tired to look into that now [21:53] and I'm falling asleep, so gnight [21:53] g'nite [21:54] maxb: should the changelog have the key in it? [21:54] maxb: or is it that i hadn't specified my GPGKEY in my ~/.bashrc? [21:56] Either the -- line at the end of the top changelog entry must exactly correspond to the user id printed by "gpg --list-secret-keys" or you must specify the hex keyid with a -k option when building or signing [21:58] I get a weird error on a bug package if I click on a hyperlink in the bug (like an attachment) if I don't let the subscriber portlet finish loading. [21:58] s/package/page/ [21:59] bdmurray: whoa. what happens? [22:01] intellectronica: the attachment continues to load but I see a brief pop up regarding couldn't find you(?) [22:02] bdmurray: "couldn't find you"? [22:02] intellectronica: it's really brief [22:03] "Cound not find your account" [22:03] bdmurray: yup, i can reproduce [22:04] bdmurray: care to file a bug? deryck or myself will look at it tomorrow [22:05] intellectronica: doing so now, shall I subscribe you? [22:06] bdmurray: no need. i get all bug mail for malone anyway [22:06] bdmurray: and thanks a lot [22:07] all this dynamic ui is quite hard to get right, and the help we're getting with testing and reporting bugs is extremely valuable [22:09] maxb: thank you for the -k switch for dpgk-buildpackage === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [22:48] is it possible to have a private PPA? [22:51] pace_t_zulu: it is, for a fee. if interested, talk to bac [23:04] Is it possible to people to Report a bug directly associated to our PPA ? [23:05] ninix, not at the moment, no [23:05] :( [23:05] just against Ubuntu packages or Projects [23:05] it's something we want to do, but it will take a while (6-12 months maybe) [23:05] Ok, thx for the info [23:06] intellectronica, bdmurray: I filed a bug on that subscriber portlet error yesterday. [23:06] Ah, I see matsubara has already duped it. [23:07] wgrant: yeah, looks like i missed it, and by now matsubara duped it appropriately [23:07] on my way to bed, but will look at this tomorrow [23:07] wgrant: yep, even though your was older, the newer one was already triaged and targeted to a milestone. [23:07] intellectronica: I filed it against launchpad rather than malone, so you probably wouldn't have seen it. [23:07] matsubara: Right. [23:07] and had a easier way to reproduce [23:07] Yep. [23:07] hi, can someone kill the build https://edge.launchpad.net/~gilir/+archive/unstable/+build/999312 ? I think it's in a loop [23:08] wgrant: right, that would explain why i didn't spot it [23:14] OOI, does anyone know why the amd64 buildds are so much slower than the lpia ones? === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [23:44] arf :|, i just realized that If i have a package X (no dependencies) for hardy,intrepid,jaunty in my PPA. and i have also a package Y(3 codenames also) that has the X packages as dependency. and also a package Z that has X,Y has dependencies...... and i have an update of the package X..... i'll need to reupload/rebuild all the package X, Y, Z for each codename :S [23:44] How do you deal with that ? Am I wrong ? [23:45] ninix: Do the packages actually need rebuilding every time in each release? [23:46] and that's a small example... i'll probably have ~50 packages in the ppa [23:46] And can you not copy most of the packages from older releases to newer ones? [23:48] Not necessary... but if i want that my package Z can benefit the change in the package X.... yes. [23:48] wgrant: i'm trying to maintain my packages up-to-date for 3 codenames at the time. (1 year of ubuntu release) [23:48] ninix: You could script it. [23:50] the fake version change + upload you mean? [23:50] ninix: Yes. [23:51] But I'm really not sure that you need to build them in all three releases... [23:51] I'm also not sure why you need to rebuild Y and Z when you change X [23:52] I was wondering that, but it is possible. [23:53] per example... my software Z try to detect if the package X has a few support (depending on version), if it has... it enable the code etc.. [23:55] 'win 72 [23:56]