| BUGabundo | bedtime | 00:58 |
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| BUGabundo | ** e [[]] | 00:58 |
| joetheodd | Is there a schedule for when the repositories get updated with new packages? | 02:00 |
| joetheodd | Or is it just at random? | 02:00 |
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| maxb | Does anyone have working usplash in karmic? | 13:55 |
| rski | nup | 13:57 |
| ikonia | maxb: is there even a usplash package forr karmick yet ? | 14:03 |
| maxb | It's not changed since Jaunty, but that doesn't mean it's not in the archive. | 14:04 |
| tgpraveen | ikonia: maybe they are moving to plymouth already | 14:04 |
| ienorand | maxb: my usplash seems to be working fine, but presumably I'm still on the old one from jaunty | 14:09 |
| ikonia | maxb: so why test a jaunty package ? | 14:09 |
| maxb | But you've upgraded to karmic? | 14:09 |
| maxb | ikonia: Just because a package has not yet been updated since the start of the karmic cycle does not make it "not a karmic package" | 14:10 |
| maxb | The karmic archive is seeded with all the packages from jaunty | 14:10 |
| ikonia | maxb: yes but what's the point of testing it until it's packaged for karmick | 14:10 |
| maxb | It *is* packaged for Karmic | 14:11 |
| Pici | I don't remember usplash ever being active when I installed pre-releases. | 14:11 |
| Pici | I don't remember whether that was something I did or not though :/ | 14:11 |
| maxb | Just because a new release cycle is opened doesn't magically make all the old packages invalid | 14:11 |
| ikonia | no it doesn't but it is probably it will be rebuilt | 14:12 |
| maxb | Unless you have a concrete reason for believing that a rebuild will fix the problem, that's entirely irrelevant | 14:13 |
| ikonia | I didn't say "fix the problem", I said I didn't see the point of it being tested as it would probably be rebuilt | 14:14 |
| maxb | ikonia: I find what you are saying to be very weird. That's like saying "I've found a bug, but I won't bother reporting it yet in case the next version fixes it." | 14:18 |
| ikonia | maxb: no, not quite what I was saying | 14:19 |
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| G__81 | hi everyone | 16:08 |
| rski | helo | 16:10 |
| G__81 | has the 9.10 process started coz i would like to be part of it and installing 9.04 in vbox and going to upgrade it to 9.10 | 16:13 |
| rski | yes | 16:13 |
| G__81 | should i download an other 700 MB again after installing 9.04 or is it gonna be less? | 16:15 |
| gnomefreak | there are no ISO's yet | 16:15 |
| G__81 | yes | 16:15 |
| G__81 | true i am gonna do update-manager -d | 16:15 |
| ondisk | i'm pretty sure there's daily ISOs | 16:16 |
| ienorand | G__81: there is dailys atm | 16:17 |
| G__81 | so if i do update-manager -d should i download 700 MB again ? :( | 16:17 |
| ienorand | G__81: I think that will only download ~400 :/ | 16:18 |
| G__81 | my 9.10 is upgrade is almost done but its trying to get the 522nd package for a very long time but the progress bar is almost complete | 17:38 |
| G__81 | but its not hung | 17:38 |
| G__81 | its not getting completed | 17:38 |
| G__81 | the 9.10 is not booting in Vbox VM | 18:27 |
| G__81 | it just waits in starting HALD | 18:27 |
| wilus- | ppl, does this install JauntyJackalope, have ext4 in install? | 19:24 |
| lamalex | wilus-: yeah | 19:25 |
| wilus- | lamalex: i can add it in install cd? | 19:25 |
| lamalex | what do you mean add it | 19:25 |
| lamalex | select it? | 19:25 |
| wilus- | select yea! | 19:25 |
| lamalex | yeah, desktop or alt | 19:26 |
| lamalex | both have it | 19:26 |
| wilus- | alt! | 19:26 |
| wilus- | ok i'll burn the alt cd now, dunno aboaut desktop ? what diff? | 19:26 |
| wilus- | ppl, does this install Jaunty UbuntuStudio, have ext4 in install? | 19:38 |
| Pici | wilus-: This is the Karmic Koala channel. Juanty support in #ubuntu and #ubuntustudio | 19:39 |
| wilus- | well sorry was meaning karmic ! | 19:40 |
| taavikko | exit | 20:39 |
| taavikko | ups, sorry, :) trying to kill screen... | 20:40 |
| maxb | Hmm, I think I have my first broken Karmic system, with a non-starting hald :-) | 20:45 |
| ienorand | maxb: yay! \o/ :P | 20:45 |
| ienorand | maxb: any particular upgrade that might be guilty? | 20:46 |
| maxb | I'm guessing hal itself or dbus | 20:46 |
| ienorand | Yea, there was a recent upgrade of hal... wonder if i dare restart the computer now... | 20:49 |
| maxb | Well, if it helps any, hal wouldn't restart after the upgrade, so if it did for you, you're probably safe | 20:49 |
| ienorand | Ah ok, phewie. | 20:50 |
| * maxb boots into jaunty and invokes the power of chroot | 20:50 | |
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| LordKow | yay finally some breakage, things are back to normality | 21:16 |
| kklimonda | :} | 21:27 |
| maxb | Hmm. So, my hald is still refusing to start up. Any idea where it might send any debug output? | 21:27 |
| kklimonda | maxb: launchpad maybe? | 21:28 |
| maxb | !?!?! | 21:28 |
| ikonia | maxb: doesn't it log to the syslog ? | 21:28 |
| kklimonda | try ubuntu-bug hal | 21:28 |
| maxb | Erm, no. | 21:28 |
| kklimonda | oh god.. I'm blind :D | 21:28 |
| ikonia | kklimonda: ?? he's asking where the applicatoin logs | 21:28 |
| kklimonda | ikonia: i know, i know - sorry.. I was just reading too many bugs and obviously lost my sight ;) | 21:29 |
| ikonia | maxb: I can see some logging for hal interaction in xorg's logs and some debug info in the syslog | 21:29 |
| kklimonda | maxb: you can run it with --daemon=no --verbose=true and it will dump all info to terminal | 21:30 |
| kklimonda | maxb: you could also add --use-syslog --verbose=yes to /etc/default/hal and it should report everything to syslog.. | 21:32 |
| ikonia | thats handy to know | 21:32 |
| maxb | Thanks! hmm, this is annoying. If X actually starts up, then because HAL is missing, X has no input devices, so you can't even change VT! | 21:32 |
| ienorand | btw, is all of openoffice held back for you to? Seems to want to remove it if I do dist-upgrade, so I'm kinda sceptical on that... | 21:33 |
| kklimonda | ienorand: probably not all packages needed by new OOo were upgraded or uploaded to mirrors.. | 21:34 |
| BUGabundo | guud evening | 21:35 |
| ienorand | hello there :) | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | ola ienorand | 21:35 |
| GatoLoko | maxb maybe hal is being replaced with devicekit | 21:42 |
| LLStarks | ugh. anyone else having hal woes? | 21:47 |
| kklimonda | maxb | 21:48 |
| BUGabundo | hal woes?? | 21:49 |
| maxb | hal blocking at bootup | 21:49 |
| LLStarks | latest 2 hal updates are killing karmic boxes | 21:49 |
| maxb | whoops, didn't spot there had been two today | 21:52 |
| BUGabundo | LLStarks: guess I shouldn't update then | 21:55 |
| ienorand | I updated hal and had no issues, I haven't tried the reboot yet though, but it seems to break before that if ever. | 21:56 |
| maxb | How do I make Ubuntu do everything *except* start gdm ? | 21:57 |
| LordKow | if you watch what's going on in ubuntu-dev the problem is known. | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | old bug: any one noticing low transfer speed but much IO when coping files from one USB device to another? | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | maxb: start on init2? | 21:58 |
| BUGabundo | I think for a LONG time we don't have that! | 21:58 |
| maxb | Whoops I'm an idiot, I tried to roll back dbus but only rolled back dbus* not including libdbus* | 22:00 |
| LordKow | curse myself for accidentally deleting the jaunty livecd earlier | 22:01 |
| LordKow | maybe that was the jinx ;) | 22:01 |
| maxb | heh | 22:04 |
| maxb | yes, it's unwise to run karmic without alternative bootable media just in case :-) | 22:04 |
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| maxb | Huh, new icon theme, interesting | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | brb | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | reboot | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | bad resume from hibernate.... killing laptop with IO | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo1 | kklimonda: ping | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo1 | kklimonda: they are now active | 22:47 |
| * ienorand : Hmm, dbus upgrades... | 22:57 | |
| BUGabundo1 | humm | 22:59 |
| kklimonda | heh ;) | 23:00 |
| ienorand | and a big sucker as well, kinda hesitating on this one, maybe one should do a backup... | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo1 | kklimonda: what happened to you ? | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo1 | hey ingenius | 23:03 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo1: i went to a store to buy something to drink ;D | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo1 | empty fridge? | 23:03 |
| kklimonda | exactly :) | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo1 | kklimonda: that's a waste of electricy | 23:07 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo1: i know, i know ;) | 23:10 |
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| pace_t_zulu | anyone else having HALD problems today? | 23:55 |
| pace_t_zulu | with karmic | 23:55 |
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| DanielRM | pace_t_zulu: yes, quite major. | 23:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | DanielRM: my install got nuked this morning | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo1 | pace_t_zulu: HAL | 23:57 |
| DanielRM | pace_t_zulu: it's made X unusable following a reboot. | 23:57 |
| BUGabundo1 | and yes, some users reporting it too, like maxb | 23:57 |
| DanielRM | And I can't remember how to set up mouse and keyboard manually in xorg.conf | 23:57 |
| maxb | The fix is well-known and being worked on right now | 23:57 |
| * BUGabundo1 is so glad to have made todays updates... can wait for a reboot... NOT | 23:57 | |
| DanielRM | maxb: is it something users can apply manually until then? | 23:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | BUGabundo1: how do you go straight to cli at boot time? | 23:58 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo1: what annoys me is that I *just* got back from the shower. | 23:58 |
| maxb | Meanwhile, dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*dbus*_1.2.12-0ubuntu2_*.deb | 23:58 |
| DanielRM | pace_t_zulu: just use SysRq and R to get keyboard in raw mode; then you can drop from X. | 23:58 |
| maxb | Assuming you haven't cleaned your apt cache | 23:58 |
| BUGabundo1 | pace_t_zulu: choose recovery console on GRUB | 23:58 |
| DanielRM | maxb: problem there. I always clean. :( | 23:58 |
| maxb | Unwise | 23:58 |
| DanielRM | I know. | 23:58 |
| DanielRM | But so's running out of space. | 23:59 |
| DanielRM | Although at least I'm not at risk from the main problem there since I started having /home on a separate partition. | 23:59 |
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