[04:24] <Sebboh> Hi.  I'm using the alt-cd 9.04.  When I use the f4 menu option to select "install a command line system", xwindows is still installed.  Expert was selected, and in the tasksel section I only checked 'OpenSSH server', not 'Ubuntu Desktop'.
[04:24] <Sebboh> I did not activate the 'log debconf file' mention option in the installer (actually I've tried with and without that option.)
[04:25] <Sebboh> I don't see the kernel parameters command line change in the bootloader when I select "install command-line system".  Is there some keyword that is supposed to be added to the command line?
[04:26] <Sebboh> What I have now is Boot Options: file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed initrd=/install/initrd.gz quiet --
[04:27] <Sebboh> I notice that the F6 menu allows me to place an X on different options, but the F4 menu doesn't.
[05:07] <Sebboh> btw selecting 'play minesweeper' from the aptitude menu results in aptitude quitting and crap proceeding to install.
[06:18] <Sebboh> ... no matter what I do, gimp, open office, evolution, and a bunch of crap I don't want are always installed.
[06:20] <Sebboh> I have booted with debconf level set to low, and preseed/interactive=true.  I've selected "install command-line system", anyway, but it's obvious that this option does nothing.
[06:29] <Sebboh> oh, I'm wrong.  I saw those names fly by in the log, but, the applications aren't installed--only the documentation is installed.  Because language-support-translations-en depends on it..
[09:48] <CIA-4> oem-config: cjwatson * r664 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[09:48] <CIA-4> oem-config: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup 1.34ubuntu1,
[09:48] <CIA-4> oem-config: localechooser 2.11ubuntu1, netcfg 1.48ubuntu1.
[10:14] <CIA-4> oem-config: cjwatson * r665 trunk/ (60 files in 3 dirs):
[10:14] <CIA-4> oem-config: Update for new message context system in GTK+ 2.15.1, and update
[10:14] <CIA-4> oem-config: imported translations from gtk+2.0 2.16.1-0ubuntu3.
[10:18] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3257 ubiquity/debian/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Update imported translations from gtk+2.0 2.16.1-0ubuntu3.
[10:19] <CIA-4> oem-config: cjwatson * r666 trunk/ (16 files in 9 dirs): bump to 1.55
[10:21] <CIA-4> oem-config: cjwatson * r667 trunk/ (48 files in 3 dirs): Adjust for changes in console-setup 1.34ubuntu1.
[10:28] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3258 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[10:28] <CIA-4> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: apt-setup 1:0.40ubuntu1,
[10:28] <CIA-4> ubiquity: base-installer 1.99ubuntu1, choose-mirror 2.28ubuntu2, console-setup
[10:28] <CIA-4> ubiquity: 1.34ubuntu1, debian-installer-utils 1.67ubuntu1, grub-installer
[10:28] <CIA-4> ubiquity: 1.37ubuntu1, localechooser 2.11ubuntu1, partman-auto 85ubuntu1,
[10:29] <CIA-4> ubiquity: partman-newworld 21, partman-target 59ubuntu1.
[10:30] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3259 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/console_setup.py): Adjust for changes in console-setup 1.34ubuntu1.
[10:39] <CIA-4> oem-config: cjwatson * r668 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.55.0
[10:44] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3260 ubiquity/debian/control: add Replaces for icon file move
[10:45] <cjwatson> evand: ^- note r3260, this sort of thing is needed any time you move files between packages
[10:46] <cjwatson> evand: anything else needed for 1.13.0 that you know of? do you want to do the upload or shall I?
[10:46] <cjwatson> I haven't tested any of this but it's only karmic ;-)
[10:46] <evand> ah, apologies for that.
[10:46] <davmor2> cjwatson: what you trying to say that it might be a bit broken ;)
[10:46] <cjwatson> aye
[10:47] <davmor2> :D LOL
[10:47] <davmor2> I hadn't noticed honest :P
[10:47] <cjwatson> hasn't been uploaded yet ...
[10:48] <davmor2> cjwatson: I meant karmic :)
[10:50] <cjwatson> oh, well, yeah
[10:51] <davmor2> Mind you to be fair it's only been because of package dependancies only being half uploaded so nothing major so far :)  Although I will be testing cd's soon
[11:07] <xivulon> evand, davmor2, r134, if there are no complaints I would like to have that replace the stand-alone download
[11:08] <davmor2> xivulon: I'll have a look at it after
[11:08] <xivulon> thx
[11:08] <evand> xivulon: I would be more comfortable with that if you opened it up to wider testing, perhaps via ubuntu-qa or the forums, first.
[11:08] <xivulon> by the way the post release issues were mostly due to localization, it would be nice in the future to have full testing for a localized copy (we had similar problems with 8.04)
[11:09] <xivulon> evand will do
[11:09] <evand> much appreciated
[11:19] <evand> xivulon: I suggest talking to the QA team to have the Wubi test case expanded to cover i18n
[11:19] <xivulon> evand could you prepare a build for 134? (maybe addressing 373162 on the way)
[11:19] <xivulon> evand copy that
[11:20] <cjwatson> evand: so you didn't answer my question about 1.13.0 - should I just go ahead and upload it?
[11:20] <davmor2> xivulon: that would be me too however I'm doing nothing to testcase till we've talked about them at uds
[11:20] <evand> oh, I missed that.  Sorry.  No, by all means go ahead.
[11:21] <evand> xivulon: I'm going to hold off on getting a signed copy until we have the final version that we want to put on ubuntu.com.
[11:21] <evand> so I'll address 373162 as part of that.
[11:24] <davmor2> xivulon: the other big issue being wubi gets mostly tested by me as I'm the one with the various copies of Windows.  I only really read english so locals other than english are a bit of a bind
[11:26] <xivulon> davmor2, your help was most useful, admittedly I could have done more testing on localized versions myself, but it gets tricky when you need to cover things like volume names with accents...
[11:27] <evand> xivulon, davmor2: http://people.ubuntu.com/~evand/wubi/karmic/wubi-r134.exe
[11:27] <xivulon> evand thanks
[11:27] <davmor2> thanks evand
[11:27] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3261 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.13.0
[11:27] <davmor2> I'll hit it after I still got some things to be doing
[11:28] <xivulon> evand I posted on #ubuntu-testing and #ubuntu-quality and will now add a forum thread
[11:29] <evand> thanks
[11:45] <xivulon> evand could you please copy the build to jaunty? otherwise people will be confused
[11:47] <evand> done
[11:54] <xivulon> evand: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1155817
[14:47] <kirkland> cjwatson: evand: hey, strange question for ya :-)
[14:48] <kirkland> i'm about to blow away and reinstall the old ubuntu instance i have running
[14:49] <kirkland> although it's been constantly upgraded all the way to jaunty, i'm curious about the date I actually first installed it (sometime pre-dapper)
[14:49] <kirkland> any suggestion of a file whose timestamp i might be able to check to determine this?
[15:01] <cjwatson> /var/log/installer/syslog should say
[15:12] <kirkland> cjwatson: cool, thanks :-)