| micahg | DId Intrepid have support for an official moonlight plugin? | 00:35 |
|---|---|---|
| nhandler | What would be a good place to start if I am interested in helping out with the Mozilla Team? | 03:18 |
| micahg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook | 03:20 |
| nhandler | micahg: I was thinking of something along the patching/packaging lines. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/List appears to be a little out of date (although I could be mistaking) | 03:20 |
| micahg | ah | 03:27 |
| micahg | ok | 03:27 |
| micahg | asac would be the one to talk to | 03:27 |
| micahg | but it's 5AM for him now | 03:27 |
| nhandler | Ok, I guess I'll try asac tomorrow. | 03:29 |
| micahg | The wiki's in genral seem out of date | 03:33 |
| e-jat | welcome to nhandler | 03:38 |
| nhandler | Thank you e-jat | 03:38 |
| * e-jat wanna learn from nhandler :) | 03:38 | |
| * micahg wants to learn also | 03:49 | |
| micahg | I'm almost ready to get into packagingh | 03:49 |
| micahg | figured I'd start triaging first | 03:49 |
| nhandler | micahg: If you are interested in generic packaging, we have weekly packaging training sessions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training) in #ubuntu-classroom every Thursday | 03:51 |
| * nhandler -> bed | 03:54 | |
| e-jat | nite nhandler | 03:58 |
| micahg | nite nhandler | 04:05 |
| micahg | thanks | 04:05 |
| micahg | I attended 1 already :) | 04:05 |
| === dpm_ is now known as dpm | ||
| fta | hi | 10:55 |
| fta | asac, what happened with the +karmic thingy in the umd ppa? | 10:55 |
| asac | fta: he | 11:38 |
| asac | fta: welcome back ;) | 11:38 |
| fta | jcastro, http://paste.ubuntu.com/169441/ help :) | 11:38 |
| asac | fta: i did a manual upload to karmic and because we had ~umd1 in jaunty i used +karmic ;) | 11:39 |
| fta | asac, thanks, sooner than expected though :( | 11:39 |
| asac | fta: we have problems with launchpad | 11:39 |
| asac | fta: e.g. after launchpad got a new disk array for ppa uploads | 11:39 |
| asac | fta: the uploads are now processed in random order | 11:39 |
| fta | gasp | 11:39 |
| asac | meaning that we are out of luck and often the non-orig uploads are processed firest | 11:39 |
| asac | i have filed a bug on that and celso is o nit | 11:40 |
| fta | # ? | 11:40 |
| asac | for the time being we either should wait 5-10 minutes | 11:40 |
| asac | or upload orig everyhwere | 11:40 |
| asac | let me check | 11:40 |
| fta | I can do that, i don't mind uploading more | 11:40 |
| asac | fta: yeah. but to prevent that you dont overwrite stuff you would need to push to the right pocket directly | 11:41 |
| asac | wait a second | 11:41 |
| asac | bug 371640 | 11:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 371640 in soyuz "Upload processing order is unstable" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371640 | 11:42 |
| asac | fta: so you can directly push to release pockets like: | 11:42 |
| asac | ~ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu/jaunty/ | 11:42 |
| asac | for incoming | 11:43 |
| fta | well, requires too many changes to my setup | 11:45 |
| asac | fta: there are two options: a) one batch for jaunty (with orig) ... 10 minutes later do the other | 11:49 |
| asac | b) push to release pockets | 11:49 |
| asac | with all having orig | 11:49 |
| asac | fta: you could also just push everything ... 10 minutes later push everythig again ;) | 11:50 |
| fta | i think it's safe to just push the full thing each time, it's the same file, so no md5 mismatch | 11:50 |
| asac | fta: its not safe | 11:50 |
| asac | fta: if you upload ... and in the middle of the upload the first .changes gets processed | 11:51 |
| asac | your orig is busted and all is dropped | 11:51 |
| asac | so thats not an option | 11:51 |
| asac | if you dont want to change your setup, just re-run the whole thing 1 hour later or so | 11:51 |
| asac | without changing upstream version of course | 11:52 |
| asac | fta: celso said he will fix it asap | 11:53 |
| asac | so use the easiest workaround | 11:53 |
| asac | i think just repushing everything after 10 minutes is fine | 11:53 |
| fta | where does that 10 min come from? a guess? | 11:53 |
| asac | fta: the incoming queue runs every 5 minute | 11:54 |
| fta | ok | 11:54 |
| asac | so in case there is delay, 1 minutes should be safe | 11:54 |
| asac | 10 | 11:54 |
| asac | fta: i even fixed chromium once ;) | 12:12 |
| fta | yep, thanks | 12:12 |
| asac | fta: we need to add gconf stuff to ia32-chromium thing | 12:12 |
| fta | just fixed the amd64 part | 12:12 |
| asac | at least on hardy/intrepid | 12:12 |
| asac | cool | 12:12 |
| asac | fta: so one thing i didnt want to change, but why the hell are you hard depending on mstcorefonts? | 12:12 |
| fta | because it's needed | 12:13 |
| asac | thats really devastating ... we dont want mstcorefonts to be installed anywhere ;) | 12:13 |
| asac | fta: why is it needed? | 12:13 |
| asac | or in which way ;)? | 12:13 |
| fta | otherwise you get a white screen, not text | 12:13 |
| asac | hmm | 12:13 |
| fta | i know | 12:13 |
| asac | ok. lets put that on the chromium agenda ;) | 12:14 |
| fta | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=9100 | 12:14 |
| asac | elimnating font stuff | 12:14 |
| asac | ooh you have bug | 12:14 |
| asac | yeah | 12:14 |
| asac | but even "AriaL" should map to something | 12:15 |
| fta | 543 firefox 992714 8771 442485 3225 538233 (Alexander Sack) | 12:15 |
| fta | 1023 firefox-3.0 597402 74140 424204 99021 37 (Alexander Sack) | 12:15 |
| fta | 1328 msttcorefonts 390295 13 62736 5 327541 (Thijs Kinkhorst) | 12:15 |
| asac | e.g. with ttf-liberation installed | 12:15 |
| asac | yeah i know | 12:15 |
| asac | its a mess | 12:15 |
| fta | 1/3 of ubuntu users already have msttcorefonts | 12:15 |
| asac | it needs to go | 12:15 |
| asac | sigh | 12:15 |
| fta | 9384 chromium-browser 3651 333 819 2498 1 (Unknown) | 12:15 |
| fta | 9581 cxchromium 3493 331 2935 167 60 (Unknown) | 12:15 |
| fta | \o/ | 12:15 |
| fta | 17663 ia32-libs-chromium-browser 823 0 0 0 823 (Unknown) | 12:16 |
| fta | 17889 ia32-cxchromium 796 81 661 39 15 (Unknown) | 12:16 |
| asac | are there other rdepends on msttcorefonts in the archive or have all installed that voluntarily | 12:16 |
| fta | wine | 12:16 |
| fta | and openoffice.org | 12:16 |
| asac | flashplugin-installer ;) | 12:16 |
| asac | shit | 12:16 |
| asac | hmm. wonder if thats really needed | 12:17 |
| gnomefreak | why the hell would bookmark-brindge or whatever the name is depends on libqt* | 12:17 |
| fta | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=10665 | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | fta: welcome back. did you happen to announce chromium does not use GTK? | 12:21 |
| fta | eh? | 12:21 |
| gnomefreak | fta: i was told that someone (owner of daily chromium PPA that it is not yet use gtk2 | 12:24 |
| asac | gnomefreak: fta is owner of that PPA ;) | 12:24 |
| fta | owner of daily chromium PPA??? | 12:24 |
| gnomefreak | fta: yes | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | AFAIK it depends on gtk2 so i dont get why it isnt built on it | 12:25 |
| asac | gnomefreak: why do you think its not built on it? | 12:25 |
| fta | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/169486/ | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i was told it wasnt thats why i asked | 12:26 |
| asac | fta: hm. is that after pushing all uploads that have origs? | 12:26 |
| fta | hmmm, damn, right, won't work for umd :p | 12:27 |
| asac | fta: why not just dput ppa-umd-$distro | 12:31 |
| asac | and add a few rules to your dput.cf | 12:32 |
| asac | like: | 12:32 |
| asac | [ppa-ums-jaunty] | 12:32 |
| asac | fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net | 12:32 |
| asac | incoming = ~ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu/jaunty/ | 12:32 |
| asac | login = anonymous | 12:32 |
| asac | s/security/daily/ | 12:32 |
| asac | s/ums/umd/ | 12:32 |
| fta | iirc, there's a feature allowing wildcards | 12:33 |
| asac | wildcards? | 12:33 |
| asac | [ppp-umd-*] | 12:33 |
| asac | incoming=..../$1 ? | 12:33 |
| asac | that would be neat | 12:33 |
| fta | http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/simplifying-dputcf-for-multiple-ppas | 12:35 |
| asac | lunch ... bbl | 12:45 |
| fta | asac, should work, http://paste.ubuntu.com/169495/ | 12:47 |
| asac | yeah | 13:01 |
| asac | jtv: hi. could you approve https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/xulrunner/1.9.1/+imports and https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/firefox/3.5/+imports ? | 13:22 |
| jtv | asac: looking... | 13:22 |
| asac | jtv: if we could enable firefox-3.5 and xulrunner-1.9.1 from universe that would work as well | 13:23 |
| asac | but we have now selected two locales with upstream to work on getting "running an upstream team" going | 13:23 |
| jtv | asac: so this is really an incipient upstream involvement on LP? | 13:23 |
| asac | jtv: yes. Malay and Asturian want to run upstream team on LP | 13:24 |
| jtv | asac: that's great! | 13:24 |
| asac | Asturian translation is 100% complete and we even include it | 13:24 |
| asac | in ubuntu | 13:24 |
| asac | jtv: so for this we will touch the po2xpi script mess to produce proper upstream-tree format | 13:25 |
| asac | jtv: unless you say that you will land something new soon ;) | 13:25 |
| asac | like .xpi export | 13:25 |
| jtv | asac: no, unfortunately, still on the back burner. | 13:26 |
| jtv | asac: files approved. | 13:26 |
| asac | jtv: i saw that i can import templates/translations from bzr branch ... i guess that wont work for .xpi? | 13:27 |
| asac | or what kind of tree structure would that be? | 13:27 |
| jtv | asac: should work, actually. Feel like experimenting? :-) | 13:27 |
| asac | jtv: so just a branch with all the .xpi's on top level? | 13:27 |
| jtv | You'd have to keep full XPI files in the tree. | 13:27 |
| asac | yeah | 13:28 |
| asac | jtv: hmm. it only allows imports from the "official" branch for a seris | 13:29 |
| jtv | yes | 13:29 |
| asac | that wouldnt really be proper for this case i guess ... the .xpi branch would defiinitly not the main branch for a series ;) | 13:30 |
| asac | so feature request: allow to set an alternative translation branch for a release series | 13:30 |
| fta | hmm.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/169554/ | 13:40 |
| fta | he was maintaining that page?? i'm quite sure i created it and no one touched it since | 13:41 |
| fta | oh, nm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Chromium?action=recall&rev=20 | 13:50 |
| asac | fta: i talked to him | 13:50 |
| asac | fta: i told him to set his environment up to build chromium | 13:51 |
| asac | e.g. pick the branches, get familiar with how to build using bzr bd | 13:51 |
| asac | he said he wanted to do that | 13:51 |
| asac | and then come back | 13:51 |
| asac | fta: ^^1 | 13:51 |
| fta | ok | 13:52 |
| asac | that was like one week ago | 13:52 |
| fta | a few people wanted the same thing, they disappeared | 13:53 |
| asac | i think its easy to guess why ;) | 13:53 |
| fta | "A new mailing list has been created for Ubuntu Mozilla Daily Build Team (ubuntu-mozilla-daily)." what is that for? | 13:54 |
| asac | fta: well. i tried to get more folks involved in keeping dailies alive ... they wondered where to get mails about build failures without joining team | 13:55 |
| asac | unfortunately it turned out tha tthe launchpad mailing lists are really useless | 13:55 |
| asac | you can only subscribe if you are member of the team | 13:55 |
| fta | oh | 13:55 |
| asac | so we should revert that i guess | 13:55 |
| asac | fta: or at least you should subscribe to that ml too | 13:56 |
| asac | i couldnt even subscribe anyone | 13:56 |
| fta | i'm still getting the emails | 13:56 |
| asac | could be that i disabled the mailing list for the ppa mail again after i couldnt subscribe you | 13:57 |
| asac | fta: maybe it works even if you are not in a team | 13:58 |
| asac | i was just confused about it not having the normal mailman "subscribe" feature here | 13:58 |
| asac | fta: hmm. odd | 14:00 |
| asac | so https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+contactaddress | 14:00 |
| asac | is still the maling list | 14:00 |
| asac | and afaics the build failures go there now | 14:00 |
| fta | Not allowed here | 14:00 |
| fta | Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. | 14:00 |
| fta | wtf? am i not admin of this team? | 14:01 |
| fta | oh no, you are | 14:01 |
| asac | fta: you are admin now | 14:07 |
| fta | asac, thanks | 14:08 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| sveinung__ | hi | 14:38 |
| sveinung__ | is this the right place to ask questions related to mozilla-devscripts? | 14:38 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| fta | sveinung__, yes it is but i don't have much time right now, i have to run. maybe asac could help. | 14:47 |
| asac | sveinung__: ask ;) ... and be patient | 14:57 |
| sveinung__ | asac: ok. I was just wondering if you have considered uploading the extension stuff in mozilla-devscripts to Debian? | 14:58 |
| sveinung__ | I asked a question about it on Launchpad a while ago. https://answers.launchpad.net/mozilla-devscripts/+question/60642 | 14:59 |
| asac | sveinung__: yes, we can do that | 14:59 |
| asac | sveinung__: if you could file a RFP bug in debian, i will upload | 14:59 |
| sveinung__ | asac: thanks! Should I ask for mozilla-devscripts or something else (since my impression is that mozilla-devscripts also contains other functionality)? | 15:00 |
| asac | sveinung__: just ask for mozilla-devscripts ... i dont see why anything would hurt for debian | 15:02 |
| asac | (even though some might not want all features) | 15:03 |
| sveinung__ | asac: ok. Thank you again! | 15:03 |
| asac | welcome ... sveinung__ give me the bug id when you have it | 15:03 |
| jcastro | fta: you're all set | 15:15 |
| asac | jcastro: what powers did fta just gain? | 15:19 |
| jcastro | asac: his bug control thing was expiring | 15:20 |
| asac | hmm ok | 15:20 |
| asac | jcastro: are there teams where you cannot renew on your own? | 15:20 |
| jcastro | yeah, bug control | 15:21 |
| jcastro | there might be others, but that's the largest one I think | 15:21 |
| sveinung__ | asac: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=528225 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 528225 in wnpp "RFP: mozilla-devscripts" [Wishlist,Open] | 15:26 |
| asac | sveinung__: good. i retitled and took ownershipt ... lets see ;) | 15:28 |
| gnomefreak | where is gwibber's profile located? i cant find it anywhere | 16:50 |
| asac | gnomefreak: ~/.config/gwibber? | 16:54 |
| asac | no its just ~/.gwibber | 16:54 |
| asac | i think most stuff is saved in gconf/gnome-keyring though | 16:54 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i dont have a ~gwibber | 16:54 |
| gnomefreak | ~/.gwibber even | 16:54 |
| asac | ~/.gwibber | 16:54 |
| micahg | asac: what do I do if someone reports a bug fixed, but I don't know where | 16:54 |
| asac | micahg: close the bug as invalid ;) | 16:55 |
| micahg | ok | 16:55 |
| micahg | great | 16:55 |
| micahg | thanks | 16:55 |
| micahg | asac: even if it was confirse?med by someone el | 16:55 |
| micahg | oops | 16:55 |
| micahg | even if it was confirmed by someone else? | 16:55 |
| asac | well. claiming its "fix released" without knowing where and how is similarly wrong ;) | 16:56 |
| gnomefreak | ah its in ~/.gconf/apps/gwibber | 16:56 |
| asac | micahg: in the end it doesnt matter ... if someone feels offended by invalid you can use fix released | 16:56 |
| micahg | ok | 16:56 |
| micahg | great | 16:56 |
| micahg | also, should I join mozsquad if I only work on bugs? | 16:56 |
| asac | gnomefreak: yeah. thats the gconf database | 16:56 |
| asac | gnomefreak: you can use gconf-editor to navigate and edit that kind of stuff | 16:57 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i was thinking of backup but not sure if i really want to back up the whole ~/.gconf but maybe ill grab gwibber out of it and than add it to that dir when needed | 16:58 |
| gnomefreak | it seems the pictures are help in ~/.cache/gwibber | 17:00 |
| gnomefreak | lol i have 2 of you for some strange reason | 17:00 |
| asac | ;) | 17:03 |
| asac | gnomefreak: i think one is twitter, the other is identi.ca | 17:03 |
| gnomefreak | asac: makes sense | 17:03 |
| fta | i'm back | 17:05 |
| micahg | asac: is it worth it for me to join this : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozillasquad | 17:05 |
| === dpm is now known as dpm-afk | ||
| asac | micahg: it expresses your affiliation, so yeah | 17:05 |
| gnomefreak | i would | 17:06 |
| asac | welcome back reed ;) | 17:06 |
| asac | even with a pristine nick | 17:06 |
| asac | fta: i read the news that chromium doesnt need patches for webkit anymore ;) | 17:09 |
| asac | so we can push harder on doing system libs soonish | 17:09 |
| fta | but it needs webkit from trunk, we're probably too old | 17:10 |
| fta | they perform a weekly sync with trunk | 17:10 |
| asac | do we know anything about webkit release cycle? | 17:10 |
| fta | i don't | 17:11 |
| LaPingvino1 | hello here then | 17:15 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: hi | 17:15 |
| LaPingvino1 | thanks for the redirect asac | 17:15 |
| asac | welcome | 17:15 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: what question do you have? | 17:16 |
| LaPingvino1 | I want to know how I can get the translations of the Esperanto translation team (outside of ubuntu) into ubuntu | 17:16 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: what does "outside of ubuntu" mean? | 17:16 |
| LaPingvino1 | that it's just a firefox translation team | 17:17 |
| LaPingvino1 | and that their translation is not available in ubuntu yet | 17:17 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: ok. how do you release your translations? | 17:17 |
| asac | is that translation complete? | 17:17 |
| LaPingvino1 | quite complete yes | 17:17 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: ok. is that translation already an official mozilla translation? | 17:17 |
| LaPingvino1 | yes | 17:17 |
| LaPingvino1 | it is | 17:17 |
| LaPingvino1 | http://eo.www.mozilla.com/eo/ | 17:18 |
| gnomefreak | who the hell are these people in these pictures :( ill be back | 17:18 |
| LaPingvino1 | any idea? how do the translations normally come in? | 17:20 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: if its released http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0.10/linux-i686/xpi/ it will automatically come when we update translations next time | 17:20 |
| asac | which should happen regularly | 17:20 |
| LaPingvino1 | ah great :) | 17:21 |
| LaPingvino1 | yeah it's in there :) | 17:21 |
| LaPingvino1 | so it should get in for the next translation update then I guess... | 17:22 |
| LaPingvino1 | when will that be? | 17:22 |
| asac | no idea ... i have to manually update the .xpis at some place. please ping me daily until i said i did that ;) | 17:23 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: ^^ | 17:23 |
| asac | i will try to slip that into next slot | 17:23 |
| LaPingvino1 | aha :) | 17:26 |
| asac | fta: did we restructure anything in the ffox packaging since 3.0? like improved how branding works? | 17:28 |
| fta | i don't think so | 17:28 |
| asac | somehow the -devscripts lp-export-langpack filter thing doesnt catch the branding bits anymore | 17:28 |
| asac | hmm | 17:28 |
| fta | but during the last 3 weeks, i forgot almost everything | 17:29 |
| fta | hard reset | 17:29 |
| LaPingvino1 | Anyhow, as I see now the language packs in firefox are still on 3.0.7 as Firefox is already on 3.0.10... | 17:29 |
| LaPingvino1 | so it wouldn't do harm to update it :P | 17:29 |
| asac | MOZ_TRANSLATION_AUTO_XPI_SEARCHDIRS | 17:30 |
| asac | fta: yeah ... be assured things will come back. the brain is an interesting type of device ;) | 17:30 |
| asac | LaPingvino1: it doesnt and it should | 17:30 |
| asac | thats why i want to fast-path that now ;) | 17:30 |
| LaPingvino1 | aha :D | 17:31 |
| LaPingvino1 | great then | 17:31 |
| fta | asac, too bad i had to come back sooner than expected. it was a really nice experience | 17:31 |
| LaPingvino1 | ey, sidestep... any idea why my nick LaPingvino automatically gets LaPingvino1? | 17:31 |
| LaPingvino1 | guess it's for that I'm already registered once... :S | 17:31 |
| asac | fta: yeah. thats what i already wondered. thoguth you were going to be away another week ... hope nothing bad happens | 17:32 |
| asac | oh | 17:34 |
| asac | hmm. not | 17:34 |
| LaPingvino1 | ? | 17:34 |
| gnomefreak | can you have empty lines in your .bashrc in the alias' section? | 17:38 |
| asac | alias section? | 17:38 |
| asac | i only know about alias lines ;) | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i have a ton of alias' in my bashrc | 17:38 |
| asac | each alias is one line | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | right | 17:38 |
| asac | you probably forgot a ' | 17:38 |
| asac | somewhere | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | can i add an empty line between them? | 17:38 |
| asac | yes you can | 17:39 |
| gnomefreak | ok cool thanks :) | 17:39 |
| gnomefreak | ok im gone for a while | 17:41 |
| fta | asac, could you push your gtk patch in karmic for bug 362939? | 17:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 362939 in ia32-libs "sync ia32libs with libs shipped in jaunty RC" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362939 | 17:49 |
| fta | i mean bug 369498 | 17:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 369498 in ia32-libs "Errors when running acroread in 9.04 (fully updated)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369498 | 17:49 |
| === reed is now known as [reed] | ||
| fta | jcastro, thanks! (bug-squad) | 18:07 |
| asac | fta: couldnt you renew yourself? | 18:07 |
| asac | sounds like a bug | 18:07 |
| asac | currently looking for the patch (modules) | 18:08 |
| fta | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/169441/ | 18:09 |
| asac | hmm. o | 18:10 |
| asac | k | 18:10 |
| asac | so maybe they want a review for that ... not sure why ,) | 18:10 |
| asac | Jazzva: hi! could you check whether you can subscribe to the daily mailing list in launchpad ;) | 18:10 |
| Jazzva | asac: sure, that would be ood :) | 18:10 |
| Jazzva | *good | 18:11 |
| asac | Jazzva: this mail liist feature of launchpad feels a bit inferior | 18:11 |
| asac | let me know if you can subscribe as a being a nono-member for daily at all | 18:11 |
| asac | if thats not possible its definitly useless ;) | 18:12 |
| Jazzva | asac: It's the same as it was few days ago ... "Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list. " | 18:12 |
| asac | oh sorry | 18:12 |
| asac | forgot that you already tested that | 18:12 |
| asac | what a mess | 18:12 |
| Jazzva | asac: no problem. I thought somebody fixed that :). | 18:12 |
| fta | asac, what does it say: http://www.googlewatchblog.de/2009/05/09/chromium-fuer-mac-und-linux-verfuegbar/ ? | 18:12 |
| asac | fta: i dont see your name at least ;) | 18:13 |
| asac | fta: just a blog about a user testing this | 18:14 |
| asac | i mean the official linux builds | 18:14 |
| asac | similar to the official mozilla builds as it seems | 18:14 |
| asac | seems for him the tabs are broken | 18:14 |
| [reed] | asac: hiya | 18:15 |
| [reed] | yeah, been busy :) | 18:15 |
| asac | hey ;) | 18:15 |
| asac | i figured that | 18:15 |
| asac | thoguht you were on university action | 18:15 |
| asac | exams et al | 18:15 |
| [reed] | yeah, and then I moved out to California for the summer ;) | 18:15 |
| [reed] | see my host ;) | 18:15 |
| asac | nice | 18:15 |
| asac | where are you living? | 18:16 |
| [reed] | in MV | 18:16 |
| asac | already found a final occupation | 18:16 |
| [reed] | lol | 18:16 |
| asac | or something intermediate? | 18:16 |
| asac | occupation is wrong word ;) | 18:16 |
| [reed] | I'm staying at corporate apartments with some of the Mozilla interns | 18:16 |
| [reed] | for the summer | 18:16 |
| asac | yeah cool. thats what i thought | 18:17 |
| asac | must be fun | 18:17 |
| [reed] | yeah, I was in SF on Saturday | 18:17 |
| [reed] | got sunburned ;) | 18:17 |
| asac | heh | 18:17 |
| asac | [reed]: so "reed" is still not abandoned on freenode? | 18:18 |
| [reed] | nope | 18:19 |
| [reed] | it's owned by some FSF Europe guy | 18:19 |
| asac | fta: so for this patch you need to create a HOST link in /usr/lib/gtk+2.0/modules/ similar to the one in .../2.10.0/ | 18:25 |
| asac | just pointing to the modules dir of ia32libs | 18:26 |
| asac | its created in ia32libs ... so maybe check how they guess that GTK_HOST thing | 18:26 |
| asac | fta: so currently we have: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/i686-pc-linux-gnu | 18:26 |
| asac | we also need | 18:26 |
| asac | /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/i686-pc-linux-gnu | 18:27 |
| asac | well in karmic thats hopefully i486 again | 18:27 |
| asac | and not 868 | 18:27 |
| asac | 686 | 18:27 |
| asac | but in jaunty it was i686 | 18:27 |
| asac | once you have that you probably need the gtk from my sandbox ppa -- currently building | 18:27 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~asac/+archive/sandbox | 18:28 |
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| fta | asac, we own the builders: https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/ :) | 18:33 |
| asac | fta: i tell you ... | 18:33 |
| asac | you were really happy to not be here over the release time | 18:33 |
| asac | that was a real mess ;) | 18:33 |
| fta | ? | 18:33 |
| asac | like 2000 builds on i386 ;) both official and ppa builders ;) | 18:33 |
| fta | lol | 18:34 |
| asac | i thinkn the removed a bunch of builds from ppa before the release | 18:34 |
| asac | so they could add them to the the auto-import | 18:34 |
| asac | so while we were in hard freeze everybody uploadded to PPA ... as they seemingly had nothing to do ;) | 18:34 |
| asac | then when stuff opened everybody also uploaded to PPA because they thought they might see results earlier | 18:34 |
| fta | i think it's dynamically allocated | 18:35 |
| asac | so it was kind of free market regulation ... both ppa and builders took the same time ;) | 18:35 |
| asac | fta: yeah. but they definitly had less virtual instances after archive opened | 18:35 |
| asac | now there is a whole lot | 18:35 |
| asac | before it was 3-4 builders for each arch | 18:35 |
| fta | 2 official builders per arch now | 18:36 |
| asac | you should be able to see that in log ... like dailies starting 8-10 hours after upload ;) | 18:37 |
| asac | fta: yeah ... the official builders are about the same ... not sure where all the PPA builders were at that time | 18:37 |
| asac | there definitly were 4-5 in parallel ... not more | 18:37 |
| asac | fta: so one thing i will do for jaunty is to move the gnome-support components to the main package ... and manually sedding shlibs so the gnome depends dont show up in the main package | 18:39 |
| asac | s/jaunty/karmic/ | 18:39 |
| asac | the gnome-support package would then be just a "depends" only package | 18:39 |
| fta | hm | 18:40 |
| asac | problem is that we cannot make -gnome-support a recommends ... kde folks hated us when we did that | 18:40 |
| asac | so people installing thunderbird will not geet a complete user experience | 18:40 |
| asac | same if you did not have firefox installed ... which is a bit better situation because its usually installed by default | 18:41 |
| asac | but its the same for the dailies | 18:41 |
| asac | folks installing just firefox-3.6 won't get gnome-support | 18:41 |
| asac | the code is already in thunderbird.head | 18:41 |
| asac | i did it before release, but then retracted to push that ;) | 18:42 |
| asac | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.dev/revision/99 and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.dev/revision/100 | 18:43 |
| asac | i am not completely happy with the strip lib thing | 18:44 |
| asac | to do it right we would need some on-the-fly dependency tree traversal code i think | 18:44 |
| asac | .... which sounds bad. maybe misusing dh_shlibs might help | 18:45 |
| asac | or maybe moving the libs after dependencies are generated from the -gnome-support to the normal tree | 18:45 |
| asac | ugly trick ;)I | 18:45 |
| asac | fta: too bad. seems like gtk fro mkarmic doesnt build on amd64 | 18:51 |
| fta | :( | 18:51 |
| asac | well ... but we need i386 which looks good | 18:51 |
| asac | at least lpia worked | 18:51 |
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| asac | hmm so the patch was wrong ;) | 19:08 |
| asac | wtf ;) | 19:08 |
| asac | fta: ok second attempt | 19:19 |
| asac | fta: second attempt | 19:22 |
| asac | fta: could we add the patch for the Sans font to chromium and demote the depends to recommends for now ;)? | 19:23 |
| asac | later hopefully dropping it to suggests or completely | 19:23 |
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| asac | fta: great. the latest gtk in my ppa built everywhere and works ;) | 20:23 |
| asac | will upload later ... have to take a break | 20:23 |
| asac | fta: there seem to be a bunch more libs not in ia32libs | 20:30 |
| asac | /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 | 20:31 |
| asac | Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so | 20:31 |
| asac | /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 | 20:31 |
| asac | Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so | 20:31 |
| asac | /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiogconf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 | 20:31 |
| asac | Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiogconf.so | 20:31 |
| asac | hmm | 20:31 |
| asac | gio probably has its own busted module thing | 20:31 |
| asac | let me check | 20:31 |
| asac | so glib ... checking | 20:33 |
| fta | ppas are turning greener and greener... | 20:58 |
| Nafallo | o_O | 21:02 |
| Nafallo | just because the servers have green HDD leds... | 21:02 |
| fta | lol | 21:02 |
| fta | i meant this: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 21:02 |
| fta | it was all red 2 hours ago | 21:03 |
| Nafallo | oh. | 21:03 |
| asac | at least i dont have to manually reupload dailies anymore ;) | 21:03 |
| Nafallo | hah | 21:03 |
| asac | that was painful | 21:03 |
| Nafallo | asac: you like pain. stop complaining. | 21:03 |
| asac | my constant pain level is fine now ... no need to add more ;) | 21:03 |
| Nafallo | asac: up your limits? *grins* | 21:04 |
| fta | hmm.. Estimated repository size: 9.3 GiB (93.09%) of 10.0 GiB | 21:05 |
| asac | fta: do you need mroe info on the ia32libs part from 369498 ? | 21:05 |
| asac | bug 369498 | 21:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 369498 in gtk+2.0 "Errors when running acroread in 9.04 (fully updated)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/369498 | 21:05 |
| asac | fta: chromium? | 21:05 |
| fta | yep | 21:06 |
| fta | https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa | 21:06 |
| Nafallo | bah. he ignored me :-( | 21:06 |
| fta | it will be worse tomorrow, i added lpia | 21:06 |
| asac | Nafallo: my limits are tuned well .. without harware upgrade there is nothing i would like to bump ;) | 21:06 |
| asac | fta: you should ask a question then ;) | 21:07 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 21:07 |
| asac | otherwise you will end up with randome "rejects" | 21:07 |
| fta | it's caused by the -testsuite-dbg debs | 21:08 |
| asac | do you really need those? | 21:08 |
| fta | 400M each | 21:08 |
| asac | soudns a bit like a waste of space ;) | 21:08 |
| asac | one reason we started to do dbgsym packages was to lower weight for mirrors | 21:08 |
| asac | and archives | 21:08 |
| fta | well, it's useful to debug crashes, but not sure who is interested by that, if any | 21:09 |
| fta | i read that ppas now support dbgsym | 21:09 |
| asac | the reason why we have -dbg for firefox/xulrunner was that dbgsym are broken for security updates | 21:10 |
| asac | so i think dropping them for chromium wouild be ok ... especially if there is a ppa dbgsym now | 21:10 |
| asac | at least dropping the testsuite parts ;) | 21:10 |
| asac | i think if somebody really wants to test that he can just build the package ;) | 21:10 |
| asac | fta: the gio dir is completely missing in ia32lib | 21:14 |
| fta | ok | 21:14 |
| asac | fta: those files in /usr/lib/gio/ are from gvfs ... not sure if thats in ia32libs at all already | 21:16 |
| fta | nope, no gio/gvfs in ia32-libs | 21:17 |
| asac | fta: libgio is part of glib ... so i guess just gvfs needs to be added ... and of course you need the $(host) link similar to the gtk modules | 21:17 |
| fta | i'll have a closer look tomorrow | 21:21 |
| fta | still digging into chromium | 21:21 |
| fta | http://paste.ubuntu.com/169937/ | 21:21 |
| fta | strange it worked on jaunty. is gcc different in karmic? | 21:24 |
| asac | yes | 21:24 |
| asac | next version is default | 21:24 |
| asac | usually next version is stricter | 21:24 |
| fta | where is the spec? | 21:25 |
| k-s | guys, is XPI.TEMPLATE working with hardy? | 21:26 |
| k-s | i got this error while trying hardy: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26600452/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.tinymenu-extension_1.4.10-0hardy1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 21:26 |
| k-s | works fine with jaunty: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26600308/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.tinymenu-extension_1.4.10-0jaunty1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 21:26 |
| k-s | the only difference is about changelog | 21:26 |
| fta | asac, it's not mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilerFlags | 21:28 |
| asac | k-s: the error message you are seeing seems odd | 21:28 |
| asac | not sure why you have .o there | 21:28 |
| asac | k-s: run a find and paste that ;) | 21:28 |
| k-s | asac: where? | 21:35 |
| BUGabundo | guud evening | 21:35 |
| asac | k-s: did you use med-xpi-unpack? if so, it might be you need a more modern devscripts package | 21:35 |
| asac | is that ok? | 21:35 |
| asac | we have a hardy build in our daily ppa iirc | 21:35 |
| k-s | asac: might be that | 21:35 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 21:35 |
| k-s | I used the most automatic as possible | 21:36 |
| k-s | asac: so depend on that ppa? | 21:36 |
| asac | k-s: yeah. so use that devscripts | 21:36 |
| asac | k-s: no ... you can also upload that to whatever ppa you need it to be | 21:36 |
| asac | depending on daily might not be the best idea ;) | 21:36 |
| k-s | asac: you say I upload to your ppa instead of making mine depend on yours? | 21:39 |
| k-s | asac: worked depending on your repo | 21:45 |
| k-s | thanks | 21:45 |
| asac | k-s: no. i say: upload mozilla-devscripts from that daily ppa (or from jaunty) to your ppa ;) | 21:46 |
| asac | so you dont need to depend on it | 21:46 |
| k-s | ok, so far it worked depending, if it break i'll let you know | 21:47 |
| asac | k | 21:47 |
| jhass840 | Hi, I have a small problem and I'm not sure if you can help me but I'll ask anyway. My university just outsourced all of our e-mail accounts to windows live mail. I want to continue checking my e-mail via thunderbird, however after following a tutorial online I get the error "Mail server localhost responded: live.kutztown.edu is an unsupported domain" what do I do about this? | 21:48 |
| nhandler_ | asac: ping | 21:59 |
| k-s | someone with full firefox source could grep where 'Use Small Icons' option is defined? | 22:00 |
| fta | k-s, http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/locales/en-US/chrome/global/customizeToolbar.dtd#8 | 22:01 |
| k-s | fta: thanks | 22:01 |
| fta | that's trunk / 3.6 | 22:01 |
| jhass840 | and the entire PA state university system is implementing the same system, so this will be a huge problem in the months to come | 22:02 |
| BUGabundo | hey fta! you are back! how was vacation ? nbice I hope! missed you dude! | 22:03 |
| fta | BUGabundo, nice, thanks. I hurt my knees so i had to come back sooner than expected though :P | 22:04 |
| k-s | fta: how to make a profile where this is set by default? | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | k-s: firefox -P | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | fta: sorry to hear about that! hope you make a speedy recover | 22:05 |
| nhandler_ | Would any of you guys know a good place to start getting involved with patching/packaging for the Mozilla Team. The extension list on the wiki seemed very outdated | 22:06 |
| k-s | i mean, how to patch/modify ubufox to make that smallicons to be on by default (netbooks) | 22:07 |
| fta | nhandler_, asac & Jazzva_ are the extension guys here ;) | 22:07 |
| nhandler_ | fta: I know that, but due to time zones, it is difficult to catch them on IRC to have a real conversation. | 22:09 |
| Jazzva_ | nhandler_: present at the moment... | 22:09 |
| nhandler_ | Awesome! | 22:09 |
| Jazzva_ | nhandler_: yeah, the list is a bit outdated, iirc. but you can pick any unmaintained (or maintained) extension, and start working :) | 22:10 |
| Jazzva_ | nhandler_: there is a wiki page that explains how to prepare a new package, or an update for the existing one, just let me find the link | 22:11 |
| nhandler_ | Jazzva_: I have it bookmarked on my other computer | 22:11 |
| nhandler_ | I'll start looking for a good extension now and then try to package it up later tonight | 22:11 |
| Jazzva_ | nhandler_: it should be easy for most extensions. if you have any trouble, just ping me, i'll be around for 2-3 hours tonight (maybe more) | 22:12 |
| fta | k-s, sorry, i don't know. doesn't seem to be a pref for that | 22:14 |
| fta | [reed], do you know? ^^ | 22:14 |
| k-s | fta: right click toolbar icons, you'll see it there | 22:15 |
| fta | i know, but you want to preset it, right? | 22:15 |
| k-s | yes | 22:15 |
| k-s | http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/content/customizeToolbar.js#662 that checkbox calls this function | 22:15 |
| nhandler_ | Jazzva_: From looking through lp:~mozillateam/firefox-extensions/XPI.TEMPLATE, it does not appear that we use watch files or get-orig-source in the extensions, is this correct? | 22:15 |
| k-s | maybe it helps? | 22:15 |
| Jazzva_ | nhandler_: yes, that's true | 22:16 |
| k-s | fta: in my localstore.rdf I have a bunch of descriptions <RDF:Description ...iconsize="small" | 22:18 |
| k-s | but maybe it's not the right way to set it in all toolbars | 22:18 |
| k-s | well, I see no references to smallicons on firefox other than that dialog | 22:21 |
| k-s | so it's not checking for it on startup | 22:21 |
| k-s | fta: ok, figured out what I need to do | 22:42 |
| k-s | but still not how to do | 22:42 |
| k-s | i need to add: <RDF:Description RDF:about="chrome://browser/content/browser.xul#navigator-toolbox" iconsize="small" /> | 22:43 |
| k-s | anyone knows how to do that? | 22:47 |
| nhandler_ | The majority of the FF extensions that I have looked at simply put "MPL 1.1/GPL 2.0/LGPL 2.1" in there license file. They do not ship a copy of any of these licenses. Should I contact the upstream developer about this or is there something else that should be done? | 23:09 |
| kklimonda | could someone check bug 374106? Right now adblock extension with EasyList is hiding some subscribers, maybe we could add launchpad.net and edge to whitelist? | 23:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374106 in malone "adblock rule "##*[id$="sponsors"]" from EasyList is hiding "Ubuntu Sponsors for Universe" from Subscribers list." [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374106 | 23:12 |
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