[00:06] <xy|ox> rpatton, how much ram
[00:06] <rpatton> 120mb
[00:07] <xy|ox> i think you should have at least 256 mb
[00:08] <rpatton> ok but the processor should run it right ?
[00:09] <xy|ox> well, processor is commonly not a big concern, always you use a light desktop environment like xfce
[00:09] <xy|ox> whats the speed
[00:10] <rpatton> 533mhz
[00:11] <xy|ox> yeah its alright, im running on a 500 mhz with 384 mb
[00:17] <DetroitLiberty> why is sharing my printer so fucking hard!
[00:17] <DetroitLiberty> I keep getting it working, and then the next day it doesn't work again
[00:18] <sound_fx> Hello, I just recently upgraded to 9.04, and my sound isn't working anymore. I tried reinstalling but still doesn't work. Audio through my headphones works fine.
[00:28] <xerxes> Hi! i used the alternate cd install, do i miss some realtime options for the kernel now?
[00:29] <xerxes> can i tweak something...the scheduler or so?
[02:53] <mib_6kur4b0j> Just installed my first official distro, ever... and need a hand up trying to get something. Anyone have a second?
[02:58] <R1cochet> what u need?
[03:06] <Zapper> Hey all
[03:06] <Zapper> whos on
[03:10] <mib_6kur4b0j> Well, I'd like to get a lightweight CD player.
[03:10] <Zapper> hehe
[03:10] <mib_6kur4b0j> Because Totem gives me an error when I put my CD in.
[03:10] <Zapper> get a ipod
[03:10] <Zapper> lol
[03:10] <Zapper> wait... thats mp3
[03:12] <zoredache> vlc?
[03:12] <mib_6kur4b0j> Okay. I'm familiar with it.
[03:12] <R1cochet> mib_6kur4b0j: did u try listen music player?
[03:12] <mib_6kur4b0j> I didn't see it in my menus.
[03:13] <mib_6kur4b0j> Where do I need to look for it.
[03:13] <zoredache> maybe audacious?
[03:13] <R1cochet> yea i like audacious myself
[03:14] <mib_6kur4b0j> All right, all I really need is "play" and "repeat" anyway. Nothing fancy.
[03:14] <mib_6kur4b0j> :P
[03:14] <R1cochet> well w/ audacious u can use older winamp skins :)
[03:14] <mib_6kur4b0j> Now, to do things the linux way is to use get-apt... right? Never used it. =\ How do I get-apt Audacious?
[03:15] <R1cochet> well yes u can use apt-get or u can open: Apps>system>synaptic
[03:15] <R1cochet> then search for audacious
[03:15] <R1cochet> might be easier
[03:15] <R1cochet> however to do apt-get open terminal and type "sudo apt-get install audacious"
[03:15] <R1cochet> w/out the ""
[03:16] <R1cochet> also u might wanna make sure that u have install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:17] <R1cochet> and if u wanna watch dvds u need to get libdvdread4 and libdvdcss2
[03:17] <mib_6kur4b0j> Why? What's that?
[03:17] <mib_6kur4b0j> Nah. It's an old P3 with 384 MB ram.
[03:17] <mib_6kur4b0j> I'm not watching any DVDs on tht.
[03:17] <mib_6kur4b0j> lol
[03:17] <R1cochet> that will install all the plugins u need to watch flash movies and other online stuff
[03:19] <mib_6kur4b0j> Synaptec just got me audacious.
[03:19] <R1cochet> cool
[03:19] <R1cochet> now play ur music away
[03:19] <mib_6kur4b0j> Except it's not..
[03:19] <mib_6kur4b0j> Totem opened again and told me "location not found."
[03:20] <mib_6kur4b0j> My CD doesn't seem to have... mounted?
[03:24] <R1cochet> did u check through places menu?
[03:25] <mib_6kur4b0j> Yea. Not there. "username" trash desktop file system floppy drive recent documents
[03:27] <R1cochet> hmm
[03:29] <mib_6kur4b0j> It's cool. You got me audacious, which is good enough for now.
[03:29] <mib_6kur4b0j> I need to crash for the night. Thanks for the help so far, though. I'll pop my head back in.
[03:29] <mib_6kur4b0j> (I'm doing this over a web interface... what do you recommend for IRC xubuntu?)
[03:30] <R1cochet> xchat all the way
[03:30] <mib_6kur4b0j> Thank you kindly.
[03:30] <R1cochet> pidgin is only good for msn type chat
[03:31] <mib_6kur4b0j> All right.
[03:31] <mib_6kur4b0j> I'll pick up xchat next time I come through, and I'll have an actual handle for these channels.
[03:32] <mib_6kur4b0j> (btw, if you're ever stuck w/o your comp or xchat... mibbit is what I found, and it's a BIG help)
[04:18] <R1cochet> is there an EQ for listen music player? my music is coming out a bit odd and would like to be able to adjust the settings
[04:35] <R1cochet> nvm i guess not
[04:36] <R1cochet> can any1 recommend a good music player w/ an eq besides audacious?
[05:21] <R1cochet> is there a p2p app similar to frostwire that isnt frostwire?
[05:34] <xerxes__> vuze?
[05:36] <Zapper> vuze isnt similar
[05:36] <Zapper> its 832749874368736938473498976 times better
[05:36] <R1cochet> naw to commercial and i have deluge
[05:36] <R1cochet> so vuze is more than a torrent client?
[05:37] <xerxes__> http://www.vuze.com/app
[05:37] <R1cochet> but is it safe?
[05:37] <xerxes__> in what way?
[05:38] <R1cochet> sending my info to the feds
[05:39] <xerxes__> well, I think you can do ssl-connections
[05:39] <Zapper> azureus.sourceforge.com
[05:39] <xerxes__> im not sure
[05:39] <Zapper> or .net
[05:39] <Zapper> or w/e sourceforge is
[05:39] <xerxes__> whats wrong with transmission?
[05:40] <zoredache> R1cochet: the only safe thing to do is to no steal 'share' stuff you don't ahve rights to share
[05:40] <zoredache> everything can probably be detected if the interested party is concerned enough
[05:40] <R1cochet> i have a torrent client; deluge and i love it. but i was looking for a napster tyoe of client
[05:41] <xerxes__> with transmission you can connect to a tracker through the tor-network and download via ssl
[05:41] <R1cochet> zoredache: i do have the rights to the music i was looking for but my disc is messed to hell and i cant rip it to hdd
[06:47] <Zapper> is anyone on to answer my questions?
[07:05] <Duckslammer> zapper, just ask and see what happens
[07:43] <Zapper> lol
[07:43] <Zapper> ok
[07:43] <Zapper> here goes
[07:45] <Zapper> what is xubuntus purpose? i mean my desktop can handle ubuntu fine, but apart from being lightweight what is its use? and what are the downsides with it?
[07:45] <Zapper> i mean, im going to get it, but will my other linux programs be compatible with it?
[07:46] <forces> just an alternative
[07:46] <Zapper> im going to mainly use it for internet and media...
[07:46] <forces> desktop alternative
[07:46] <forces> ubuntu
[07:46] <forces> + xfce
[07:46] <Zapper> im going to install windows for native game playing and photoshop etc*
[07:46] <Zapper> ok
[07:47] <Zapper> will i have any problems installing programs designed for ubuntu?
[07:48] <Roylap> In some cases you will have to dl some extra dependencies because of missing GNOME librarys and whatnot but apt-get gets you everything you need anyway.
[07:49] <Roylap> Xubuntu is just nice to look at, and fast.
[07:51] <Zapper> ok
[07:51] <Zapper> would the extra repositories affect my speed in anyway?
[07:52] <Roylap> I cant answere that for certian but i really dont think you will notice any speed issues with that.
[08:03] <Duckslammer> anyone help with sound card problem?
[08:14] <R1cochet> yea xubuntu is the way to go
[08:14] <nikolam> hi, what should i do? - My Quit button in Xfce does not work
[08:15] <nikolam> I am on hardy 64bit
[08:15] <nikolam> Also on other netbook machine with 32bit hardy I have same issue but is is there from last upgrade nowon
[08:16] <nikolam> on third machine , also on 32 bit hardy, firefox and seamonkey get frozen after few minutes of activity
[08:16] <nikolam> On all 3 machines, problems started after last upgrades (and 2.6.24-24)
[08:17] <R1cochet> i had issues when i upgraded also w/ it slowing way down. i did a fresh install and it runs faster than 8.10 did
[08:21] <R1cochet> nikolam: did u try both quit buttons? 1 on panel 1 in menu?
[08:24] <nikolam> interesting.. i just added quit button on the panel and it pops up
[08:24] <nikolam> but i tried that on netbook and didn`t work.
[08:25] <nikolam> also on netbook, it doesn`t remember panel settings
[08:28] <nikolam> also, 2.6.24-24 didn`t want to boot machine (restarting) until i re-installed fglrx driver with different version
[08:29] <nikolam> And at the end, newer kernel after upgrade is just added to /boot , so disk space on /boot partition is wasted very quickly and fails to bot from time to time, since /boot gets filled
[08:29] <nikolam> I will try to restart now.. cu all
[08:29] <R1cochet> gl
[10:18] <frere> Hello there, I'm new to IRC... Can anyone tell me how to recover the Catfish search function under Places (Thunar)? I played with PCman and seem to have lost the Catfish menu item under Places now... Thank you for your patience with a newbee...
[10:20] <R1cochet> rt click on it in the panel and enter "catfish" as the command
[10:20] <R1cochet> rt click> properties
[10:21] <frere> Hi there R1cochet, this is absolutely awesome real-time time help! I can't believe I discovered RIC and solved my problem in 30 secs! Heartfelt thanks from Madrid!!!!
[10:22] <R1cochet> no problemo mi amigo
[10:22] <frere> Un abrazo y que tengas un dia estupendo!
[10:22] <R1cochet> not always this fast tho. i just happend to be passing by
[10:22] <frere> I'm sold!!
[10:23] <R1cochet> lo siento. hablo poquito espanol
[10:23] <R1cochet> awesome i think ull find that linux is great
[14:02] <Pres-Gas> Hey, all
[14:03] <vixus> Hi, can anyone tell me how to edit the Applications menu in 9.04?
[14:09] <vixus> i want to edit the structure of the menu rather than the applications in it
[14:10] <Kangarooo>  I have 2 folders open with thunar and will now restart and want thouse 2 folders to be open on start
[14:11] <Kangarooo> how to make folders to restore on startup ?
[14:12] <SiDi> Kangarooo: at the quit dialog, click on "save session"
[14:12] <DetroitLibertyPe> Kangroo: As long as when you shutdown/restart you choose "Save session" it should
[14:13] <Kangarooo> and what saving session also does? I've used sessions long time ago but I think its adding services and slowing computer- hiden proceses.. and it also opens all programms so some hidden programms slows pc
[14:16] <vixus> session saving just saves all open programs on logout
[14:17] <vixus> if you had 'hidden' programs running they might be restarted as well
[14:38] <Guest15320> Hello there, can anyone help me. I'm having trouble getting my sound to work. I recently installeb Xubuntu 9 Jackalope on my old iBook G3 (PPC)
[15:06] <Pres-Gas> !sound
[15:06]  * Pres-Gas points Guest15320 to the links from ubottu.
[17:08] <Skinkie> hi all, how can i recover the 'standard ubuntu applications menu'?
[17:08] <Skinkie> for some reason it disapeared after upgrading
[19:33] <sinelaw> hi, i have a low end system, is xubuntu really better for that?
[19:33] <vinnl> Depends, compared to what and how low-end :P
[19:34] <sinelaw> very low end
[19:34] <sinelaw> ancient
[19:34] <sinelaw> 192Mb ram is the worst stat :(
[19:34] <vinnl> Oh, I've heard worse :P
[19:34] <SiDi> hm
[19:34] <vinnl> But it won't really be pleasant, I think
[19:34] <SiDi> i think thats enough for Xubuntu ;)
[19:34] <sinelaw> is there something that will run better? all i want is to surf the web
[19:35] <SiDi> If you shutdown update-notifier, and hardware-drivers notifier, too
[19:35] <SiDi> sinelaw: surely openbox on arch will run better, but it'll also be much harder to setup ;)
[19:35] <vinnl> There's Puppy Linux, Damn Small Linux, Elive, and many more
[19:35] <vinnl> Not that easy to use but for just browsing it should be fine
[19:36] <sinelaw> ah great, but  too many options is also bad
[19:37] <SiDi> That's why you should stick with *our* option xD
[19:37] <Wizard> hi
[19:38] <sinelaw> SiDi, i want to, but i also want the system to be usable
[19:38] <Wizard> how does lts work? will i get latest software or just security updates?
[19:38] <vinnl> Wizard, just security updates
[19:38] <SiDi> sinelaw: its usable with 192 afaik
[19:38] <Wizard> ah, i understand
[19:38] <sinelaw> SiDi, the xubuntu web page doesn't even mention that it's supposed to be ligher than ubuntu
[19:39] <sinelaw> is that at all a goal?
[19:39] <SiDi> sinelaw: just remove stuff you don't need on startup if you want to get a little more RAM. As for the web browser i recommand Opera...
[19:39] <SiDi> sinelaw: ah, thats weird to hear :P the goal is OF COURSE to be lighter :)
[19:39] <SiDi> knome will make us a new website in the next 2 days anyways... </this _is_ a troll>
[19:39]  * SiDi hides.
[19:40] <vinnl> *One of* the goals is to be high-performant
[19:40] <sinelaw> yeah it's weird - doesn't mention even what the diference is w.r. to Ubuntu
[19:40] <SiDi> (sinelaw, about Opera, i warn you that it's proprietary ! but it uses less ram than ff/midori, afaik)
[19:40] <vinnl> It's not supposed to be "a light-weight version of Ubuntu"
[19:40] <SiDi> the difference is xfce instead of gnome
[19:40] <vinnl> SiDi, Opera uses Qt
[19:40] <sinelaw> that's the whole difference?
[19:40] <vinnl> No
[19:40] <SiDi> vinnl: aw. well thats a shame cause their engine is lighter
[19:40] <vinnl> Also a different package selection and mentality in general :)
[19:41] <Wizard> hmm
[19:41] <vinnl> SiDi, last time I checked WebKit was really light, which is what Midori uses (though Midori is quite unstable)
[19:41] <vinnl> And Gecko has made lots of improvement as well, I'm eagerly awaiting Firefox 3.5 ;-)
[19:41] <SiDi> vinnl: i tested the RAM used by ff 3.0, ff 3.6 and midori 1.1.6 about a week ago
[19:41] <SiDi> midori was worse than 3.0 :X
[19:41] <vinnl> 0.o
[19:41] <SiDi> and 3.6 was better than 3.0 :P
[19:42] <SiDi> With only gmail opened, ff 3.0 was ~90, midori ~110, ff 3.6 ~80
[19:42] <SiDi> I've been shocked too.
[19:42] <SiDi> I don't use swap at all, btw !
[19:42] <vinnl> How did you test it?
[19:42] <SiDi> well, gnome-system-monitor xD
[19:43] <vinnl> (Unfortunately Midori crashes for me so I can't reproduce)
[19:43] <SiDi> I wasnt gonna run it in valgrind and read 3000 lines of logs just to test :p
[19:43] <vinnl> SiDi, which value did you check? You're supposed to be looking at "Writable Memory" IIRC
[19:44] <SiDi> i can check again
[19:44] <SiDi> i'll have to kill irc tho
[19:44] <SiDi> its in firefox xD
[19:44] <pteague> i have to say thank you for being the most usable main stream window manager in jaunty
[19:44] <vinnl> Haha xD
[19:45] <sinelaw> btw, does it make sense for a motherboard to accept max. 192mb? or is that rare
[19:45] <SiDi> pteague: thats because xfwm is pawnage !
[19:45] <vinnl> pteague, heh, there aren't many Xfce developers here I think ;-)
[19:45] <sinelaw> (i would expect 256...)
[19:45] <SiDi> sinelaw: its probably 128+64
[19:45] <SiDi> the RAM was very expensive at this time
[19:45] <sinelaw> yes i remember
[19:45] <SiDi> and usually when you were upgrading you weren't buying a new 128MB card
[19:46] <sinelaw> i remember when we had a 486DX2 with...wait for it....16 mb of ram! that was insane back then
[19:46] <pteague> "oh look, kde4 does shadows..." <crash>  "oh look, clear vista like title bars" <crash> "oh, it has a nifty mac like thingy" <crash>
[19:46] <vinnl> xD
[19:46] <Wizard> lol
[19:47] <SiDi> sinelaw: :) i still got a 256 MB ram machine around, i guess i'll use it for some testing purpose
[19:47] <Wizard> and /me still uses dwm at work
[19:47] <Wizard> :P
[19:47] <SiDi> Cause my machine here runs with 4GB of ram, but with xubuntu of course \o/
[19:47] <sinelaw> what i like about this channel... you don't have "users"
[19:47] <sinelaw> like #ubuntu
[19:48] <Wizard> buehehe
[19:48] <sinelaw> :P
[19:48] <Wizard> sinelaw: like 'help! internets iz br0ken!'
[19:48] <sinelaw> yeah...
[19:48] <Wizard> ok
[19:48] <Wizard> so..
[19:48] <SiDi> vinnl: 105,5MB average writable mem for midori
[19:48] <pteague> intel e6750 dual core, 4gb ram, nvidia 9600gt ...  i'm only having problems with running eve-online & i'm hoping that last wine update will fix it
[19:48] <SiDi> gonna kill ff and start it in gmail to check, see you :P
[19:48] <Wizard> help! my powerbook does not wake from suspend
[19:48] <Wizard> (and i forgot how to fix it)
[19:48] <Wizard> :P
[19:49] <pteague> isn't pushing the power button supposed to bring it back?
[19:51] <SiDi> vinnl: firefox is the winner
[19:51] <vinnl> 0.o
[19:51] <SiDi> ff 3.0 80MB, and 80.6 for ff 3.6
[19:51] <SiDi> with of course all the numerous plugins loaded
[19:52] <vinnl> But hey, it's not exactly scientific, so it might be your setup :P
[19:52] <SiDi> might be but still :)
[19:52] <SiDi> that proves wrong people who claim gecko sucks !
[19:52] <vinnl> Yeah it's a bit of a shocker
[19:52] <SiDi> i think they took the advantage with ff 3.0.1
[19:52] <SiDi> (or is it 3.1 ?)
[19:53] <SiDi> gmail is responsible of a good 40 MBs of ram usage btw
[19:53] <SiDi> its an heavy page :p
[19:53] <SiDi> but typically, i'm on gmail/mibbit/another site when i browse, so thats a good use case for me
[19:53] <vinnl> Yeah Gmail will definitely perform a lot better in Firefox 3.5 because of the improved Javascript performance
[19:54] <SiDi> i can test with a foo.html basic page if you want :p
[19:54] <SiDi> but i gotta kill irc again :x
[19:54] <vinnl> No don't bother :P
[19:55] <sinelaw> SiDi, did you try "basic html" on gmail?
[19:55] <sinelaw> and why don't you use xchat or something...
[19:55] <SiDi> no sorry :p
[19:55] <SiDi> i believe ff would be around 30 MB with just a basic html page in one tab + swap
[19:55] <SiDi> sinelaw: i'm behind a firewall, i need port 80
[19:56] <SiDi> and i cant find a freenode serv with port 80
[19:56] <vinnl> SiDi, there's also Chatzilla :)
[19:56] <sinelaw> ah ok
[19:56] <SiDi> vinnl: it sucks compared to mibbit, imo :P
[19:57] <SiDi> and it doesnt solve the ff dependency ^^
[19:57] <vinnl> Sure :)
[19:57] <SiDi> i got a box i can ssh into and irssi with
[19:57] <SiDi> but mibbit has much more features :P
[19:57] <SiDi> and the box is a P II, it lags
[19:58] <sinelaw>  can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.0.1 to xubuntu  9.0.4?
[19:58] <vinnl> sinelaw, you mean 8.04.1?
[19:59] <vinnl> You can first upgrade to 8.10 and then to 9.04, and then convert it to a Xubuntu installation, but doing a fresh install is probably easier, especially if you installed your home directory on a separate partition
[20:00] <sinelaw> ah forget it, it's xububntu 8.0.4
[20:01] <pteague> ssh tunnel proxy ftw
[20:02] <sinelaw> oops, i forgot my username/password on that machine, i guess it's a fresh install then
[20:03] <SiDi> sinelaw: congrats ;)
[20:11] <sinelaw> oh now, neighbor is doing karaoke.... oh the pain
[20:12] <sinelaw> oh *no
[20:12] <vinnl> xD
[20:12] <SiDi> mine would better not tonight !
[20:13] <vinnl> I wish I found a room, wouldn't mind a karaoke now and then :P
[20:23] <Wizard> hehe
[20:24] <Wizard> does anybody know svn for xfce?
[20:24] <vinnl> http://svn.xfce.org/? :P
[20:25] <Wizard>  /trunk? :P
[20:25] <vinnl> Wizard, http://www.xfce.org/download/development
[20:25] <Wizard> any xfce dev here? :P
[20:26] <vinnl> You'll want to check the mailinglists for that, or perhaps #xfce
[20:28] <SiDi> xfce's site isnt up-to-date :D
[20:29] <vinnl> Why not? Jerome has been updating it all over with the release of 4.6
[20:29] <SiDi> the url above
[20:30] <SiDi> it says latest stable 4.4
[20:30] <SiDi> and latest devel 4.5
[20:30] <vinnl> SiDi, have you pressed Ctrl+Shift+R
[20:30] <vinnl> Oh wait, perhaps the mirror in your area hasn't been updated yet... Which would be worrisome
[20:31] <SiDi> ah yeh
[20:31] <SiDi> french mirror it was !
[20:32] <vinnl> :S Might want to mention that somewhere
[20:49] <alyawn> is there a setting buried somewhere that will force a UID/GID when an external hard drive is mounted?
[20:51] <Drew3> Hi folks, the control-panels (Application bar) has disappeared. Two things I have done new and or different are get Wicd (wifi) working and play with the Fn buttons to suspend the laptop.   How do I get the menus/application bars back?
[20:52] <SiDi> the whole panels ?
[20:52] <SiDi> "xfce4-panel &" in a terminal
[20:53] <SiDi> vinnl: i got the svn version of translations, i'll update it in a few days :p
[20:54] <vinnl> SiDi, ah, you wanted to do translations... There's a special script for that
[20:55] <Drew3> SiDi ty, yes the whole panel,
[20:56] <vinnl> Drew3, Alt+F2, run "xfce4-panel"
[20:56] <SiDi> vinnl: for the website part i meant
[20:56] <Drew3> vinnl: that was my next question, ty
[20:56] <Drew3> :-)
[20:57] <SiDi> i'll probably work on translations/doc in the future, but not now, got enough work
[20:57] <vinnl> Heh, well if you do that be sure to check http://i18n.xfce.org/ :)
[21:04] <Drew3> Ty again it worked.
[21:05] <vinnl> ^.^
[21:07] <Drew3> My laptop is a 10yr old Thinkpad, I tried LXDE, but the wifi wouldn't work, has anyone seen or heard of that happening?   Lxde (desktop) probably will not be something I need whe I get more than the 192 ram but I was curious if it was a common issue when changing desktops?
[21:07] <Drew3> I will get an additional 512 of ram this week.
[21:11] <SiDi> You know, we're using XFCE, not LXDE.
[21:16] <Drew3> A philosophical question, at when point does Xubuntu no longer be Xubuntu, is it when you try Lxde?    Sure, and I'll probably stop even trying using lxde-in xubuntu when the ram gets here.
[21:17] <vinnl> When you install everything Xubuntu :P
[21:17] <vinnl> *uninstall
[21:17] <Drew3> :-)
[21:18] <Drew3> I always screw up a punch line, too. vinnl :-)
[21:18] <vinnl> Hehe :P
[21:41] <Wunderkind> hi guys
[21:42] <terminal> Drew3: maybe networkmanager isn't running
[21:42] <terminal> this is probably what you're using to manage your wifi connections
[21:42] <vinnl> !hi | Wunderkind
[21:44] <Wunderkind> hallo, how do i delete an erroneous xubuntu session?
[21:47] <vinnl> I think you'll have to delete the contents of the ~/.cache/sessions directory, according to http://wiki.xfce.org/faq?s[]=session#session_manager
[21:50] <vinnl> Anyway, I'm off to bed, good luck :)
[22:32] <Name141> where can I find a list of the min/recommended requirements for Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu ?
[22:36] <gravityreloaded> hi can anyone tell me if 256Mb Ram is enough to run xubuntu?
[22:37] <gravityreloaded> and only 1.2Mhz processor
[22:37] <kennyjb402> Name141, http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/ this may help
[22:37] <gravityreloaded> with normal ubuntu I have problems
[22:38] <kennyjb402> or you can try this http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/ubuntu-system-requirements.html
[22:41] <gravityreloaded> ok good. Another question: does it include network manager like in Ubuntu? It's the only way I can get online with mobile internet
[22:42] <kennyjb402> it has an applet which can connect you
[22:43] <gravityreloaded> thanks. Only I tried with Sabayon and Dreamlinux and they can't connect with the wi-ci manager
[22:43] <knome> gravityreloaded, it's the same network manager applet. with 256 memory, you can run xubuntu, but it might be a bit slow. should be faster than ubuntu, though.
[22:44] <gravityreloaded> ubuntu freezes on the referred laptop - reqs are 360Mb, right?
[22:44] <kennyjb402> I belive it is knome
[22:44] <knome> kennyjb402, i believe it is as well, but i don't have any own experience, i've only heard this from others.
[22:45] <kennyjb402> I see :)
[22:45] <gravityreloaded> nice
[22:45] <knome> gravityreloaded, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[22:45] <gravityreloaded> I'll give it a try
[22:45] <kennyjb402> working pretty good for me so far
[22:45] <gravityreloaded> y I have jaunty 9.04 Ubuntu on my PC
[22:45] <gravityreloaded> working great
[22:46] <gravityreloaded> just haven't yet tried xubuntu
[22:46] <kennyjb402> cool :)
[22:46] <gravityreloaded> I just managed two screens :-8
[22:46] <gravityreloaded> but 2nd screen does't accept windows
[22:46] <gravityreloaded> It's just destop and menu
[22:47]  * knome runs xubuntu on two screens with no problems
[22:47] <gravityreloaded> y but I have 2nd screen @ 640x480
[22:47] <kennyjb402> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_afk-Egip2qY/Sgb63ZGYnxI/AAAAAAAABnQ/hbWYjXYFWn0/s1600-h/idiot.jpg
[22:47] <gravityreloaded> and 1st at 1280x960
[22:47] <gravityreloaded> that's not easy
[22:47] <gravityreloaded> even Windows has a few objections
[22:47] <knome> i suppose that is not a blocker, but can be a bit nasty, yeah.
[22:48] <gravityreloaded> I find it strange that I can't drag across to other screent though
[22:48] <gravityreloaded> Compiz bug I suppose :p
[22:48] <gravityreloaded> It just goes to other face
[22:48] <knome> compiz is booo :P
[22:49] <gravityreloaded> I like it
[22:49] <knome> i like a plain clean desktop. i don't even run the xfce compositor.
[22:49] <kennyjb402> I just installed it, I like it too
[22:50] <gravityreloaded> It's gr8 to have different work areas available so easily
[22:50] <gravityreloaded> and nice looking as well
[22:50] <gravityreloaded> but is a memory hogger
[22:50] <knome> hah
[22:50] <knome> might be a bit with 256 RAM at least
[22:50] <gravityreloaded> on my system I have 1Gb
[22:50] <gravityreloaded> more than enough
[22:51] <gravityreloaded> with a 2.66 processor
[22:51] <gravityreloaded> and 256Mb graphics hehe
[22:51] <gravityreloaded> the referred 256Ram was my mum's laptop
[22:51] <gravityreloaded> :p
[22:52] <gravityreloaded> with windows it takes 5-6 minutes just to start up
[22:52] <gravityreloaded> loil
[22:52] <kennyjb402> lol