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* MacSlow -> lunch12:06
seeleare features such as display time and display position in the spec or is that controlled by the display function?12:11
agateauseele: the galago spec let an application specifies a timeout, but no positioning13:16
seeleagateau: thanks for your response on the ml14:06
agateauseele: you're welcome14:07
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mahfouzwhat is this # about?18:09
mahfouzsomebody referred me here but i cant see any buddhism18:10
mahfouzyet18:10
SiDimahfouz: this channel is about... kittens !18:10
SiDi(It's the new channel of the Ubuntu Desktop Experience team, afaik)18:10
mahfouzbut it says "bug hunt"18:11
SiDiyeh, cause bugs annoy kittens. :[18:11
SiDiI think the topic is not very up-to-date, but its not really important imo :P18:11
mahfouzso what is important?18:11
artirthe way your perceive information18:12
artirsuch as a kitten is running towards you18:12
mahfouzis this a zeitgeist clone?18:12
artiror a friend has sent you a message saying "i like catz"18:13
artirmahfouz: no18:13
artirmahfouz: zeitgeist deals with browsing information in time instead of in a hierarchy18:13
mahfouzyou should clone the kittens into penguins18:13
doctormoartir: that's not right, it should be "i luz catz"18:13
artirmahfouz: ayatana is a broader project and sponsored by Canonical 18:13
SiDimahfouz: penguins lack the typical sexiness of kittens18:14
artirCatz says: All your base are belong to us18:14
mahfouzso the new ubuntu theme will have catz18:14
SiDiand all your milk !18:14
artirtes18:14
SiDimahfouz: exactly, but its still a secret18:14
artirdon't tell anyone, rught?18:14
artir*right18:14
mahfouztell me the secret18:14
SiDiand the notifications mewed by kittens in 9.1018:14
artirmahfouz: you need to torture mark shuttleworth to get it18:14
artirXD18:14
mahfouzone his blog?18:15
SiDiyou cant torture his blog18:15
mahfouzI want to see the new theme, that's why I'm really here18:15
SiDiyou have to torture himself !18:15
SiDimahfouz: come at the Ubuntu Developer Summit then ;)18:15
mahfouzi wont be in barcelona, so i cannot18:15
artirsidi: I have slaves that will go for me mwahahaha18:15
SiDiget an internet connection and follow it via icecast.ubuntu.com18:15
artirsidi: hidden cameras ftw just in case18:15
mahfouzi was in barcelona 3 weeks ago, i know a nice place to stay if you still need it18:15
SiDiartir: heh :D i'm ok to be your slave if its all paid :O18:16
SiDimahfouz: i know a wonderful bar with delicious patitas de calamar there :p that fits my needs :p18:16
artirsidi: XD, I already have an slave that lives near barcelona18:16
artirGood Food:18:16
mahfouzso what about the rumour that there wont be a new theme for karmic?18:16
artir1.- Paella and Iberian rice18:16
artir2.- Pan amb tomaquets(and maybe serrano ham too)18:16
SiDimahfouz: ask Mark Shuttleworth ^^18:17
artir3.- Spanish omelette18:17
SiDiartir: yar, serrano :p18:17
mahfouzhe does not reply18:17
* SiDi is shocked by the popularity of the tortilla :P18:17
artirsidi: i live in spain and i have the fridge full of it18:17
artirmwahahahaha18:17
artirwe have an entire pig leg converted into ham here18:17
SiDiheh18:17
SiDifinished mine today :p18:17
SiDiWas in St Feliu de Guixols, between Gerona and Barcelona this week-end18:18
SiDiended up cutting wood in the mountain instead of working my exams x_x18:18
artirBest way to have serrano: Get a bread(ciabbatta or similar), put inside cheese and serrano ham, to the oven 30 minutes, 180 degress, get out, put some tomato, olive oil and eat18:18
mahfouzok, so let's put butter to the kittens18:18
SiDimahfouz: what the hell ! raping forbidden, you're warned18:18
mahfouzwill the new ubuntu theme still have the windows window border18:18
mahfouzi mean the _,box,x18:19
mahfouzis this still fashionable18:19
mahfouzyou know what I mean18:19
* SiDi doesnt.18:19
mahfouzI think many people will reject a theme just for that18:19
artirmahfouz: what's wrong with - box x?18:19
mahfouzthey want to see something else18:19
mahfouzit's worn out18:20
artirmahfouz: it's better than mac's one at least18:20
mahfouzmost people would prefer mac's red lights18:20
mahfouzthis is the first thing that sticks when you see a new theme18:20
mahfouzso imho it's important18:21
mahfouzand it's what you see whenever you close a window18:21
SiDihonnestly, if they ship ubuntu with a mac-like theme, i'll find myself another distro ! (xubuntu for instance :])18:24
artirmahfouz: they have rooms full of slaves, working 25/7 (yes, 25) on it18:24
ryanpriorMac's theme is iconic, it wouldn't do us any good to mimic it.18:24
artirmahfouz: it'll be great18:24
mahfouzthey cannot really do mac because that would make them look like idiots18:24
artiranyone here is from canonical?18:24
mahfouzbut something different from the old stuff18:24
mahfouzaha, so you guys are just trolls like me?18:25
mahfouznobody here from the team?18:25
artiri'm not a troll18:25
artirtroll= user that you don't want to have in a chat18:26
SiDiin fact, kittens want artir !18:26
mahfouztrolling is an art form18:26
mahfouza good troll is not easy18:26
mahfouzhas to be learned18:26
SiDihi !18:27
ryanpriorFor example, mahfouz is trolling very badly right now.18:27
mahfouzartir: so how do you know the theme will be great18:27
mahfouzryanprior: thx, it's an honor18:27
artirartir: i have faith in canonical18:27
SiDiartir is a spy from microsoft, watching progress made by caninocal </troll>18:27
mahfouzartir: but they promised a new theme since 7.1018:28
artirartir: when i've said ubuntuX+1 will be great in countless times, i've always been right from my point of view18:28
artirno18:28
mahfouzand it never happened18:28
artirfrom 6.1018:28
mrooneySiDi: good morning! (well, for me anyway :)18:28
artirbut this time they have promised to show some at the UDS18:28
SiDimrooney: just finished dinner here :> we're so *not* synced :p18:28
mrooneyhaha18:28
mahfouzartir: they retracted their promise18:28
mahfouzcheck the thread18:29
artirwhich one?18:29
artirSiDi: OMG, you have discovered me!18:30
* artir throws SiDi a 200 kg EULA18:30
ryanpriorAlso, in his Ubuntu Open Week discussion, SABDFL said that work on the new theme probably won't be visible until 10.04 at the earliest.18:31
* SiDi gives the EULA to an almighty FSF kitten which tears it in pieces.18:31
SiDiHe said it won't be complete afaik18:32
artirbut he said that we will get a sneek peek18:32
mahfouzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114024618:32
mahfouznot complete means no sandwich18:33
artirCome to UDS for a preview of the whole new look.18:34
artirthat is18:34
artiri'm pretty darn confident we'll have a new look for 10.04 but i think only pieces of that will emerge for 9.1018:34
ryanpriorThe ridiculous thing is, in the time since 7.10 when we were first supposed to get the new theme, lots of people have made new themes. It can be done and has been done, by artists in their spare time. Until Canonical comes forth and shows everybody what they're cooking, it's all just more smoke.18:35
mahfouzkittens will starve until 10.0418:35
artirthey have done something they didn't do before: to say they have something and that they will show it18:36
mahfouzbut after retracting, do they even show anything at UDS18:36
mahfouznobody know atm18:36
ryanpriorWe'll see soon enough whether they've really got anything to show. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, that they just want to make an Apple-like theatrical release.18:36
mahfouzit would be silly to make a theatrical release if it's not in karmic18:37
artirmaybe mark shuttleworth does a keynote18:38
artirand reveals what is to come18:38
artir(Steve J. style)18:38
ryanpriorRight, it better be something of that magnitude.18:38
GreySim_He should come onto stage wearing a black turtleneck.18:38
mahfouzit would probably be more like a mourning dress than a turtleneck18:39
artiror a space suit18:41
mahfouzif there is no new theme in karmic then space is the only safe place left18:42
SiDimrooney: got my answer on the bug report for column colors ? :p18:42
SiDiah yeh, you got it18:45
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