[00:06] <SilentSound> im having difficulties installing kubuntu on my computer. I downloaded and burned the iso on the kubuntu website to a cd, put it in my comp and restarted, but now all im getting when i click "Start kubuntu live or install" is a black screen
[00:06] <phoenixz> Can I say that Kubuntu 9.04 has been one great disappointment please?
[00:06] <phoenixz> I love linux, love ?ubuntu
[00:06] <xjjk> phoenixz: eh?
[00:06] <phoenixz> but 9.04 realy is ridiculous
[00:06] <Walzmyn> has anybody here used the PPA for kde 4.2.3?
[00:06] <xjjk> phoenixz: have we chatted about this before...
[00:06] <phoenixz> xjjk: crashes, instabilities, problems, etc...
[00:07] <Walzmyn> try some specifics phoenixz
[00:07] <phoenixz> xjjk: partially :)
[00:07] <zerothis> ire was in hardy but is source package only in jaunty? How does one install a source package in synaptic or CLI?
[00:07] <firsm> SilentSound: Same here, the nv driver is pretty buggy and didn't work with my card. Use the alternate cd and make sure to have it not use nv when starting up the first time
[00:07] <zerothis> phoenixz: agreed, I blame KDE 4
[00:07] <phoenixz> Walzmyn: Where to start... I just installed kubuntu on various other machines..
[00:07] <xjjk> zerothis: on the CLI, it's apt-get source <package-name>
[00:07] <phoenixz> kpackagekit, won't work stable for about 2.5 minutes...
[00:07] <Walzmyn> I've had file system problems- had to fsck and reinstall. but it seems to be working fine with not useing the 4.2.3 PPA
[00:08] <xjjk> phoenixz: perhaps... kpackagekit is pretty lame in my opinion already
[00:08]  * xjjk uses aptitude
[00:08] <phoenixz> basically, you can't use it to install stuff because it will crashbefore it finishes and since installing stuff is like.. basic, its useless
[00:08] <kyle_> kubuntu or Vector or linux dream?
[00:08] <mandingoceo> hey does anyone know what drivers i need to make the remote work that plugs into the hvr-1600
[00:08] <phoenixz> xjjk: There was adept, whcih had its things, but it rocked.. the stuff they came up with next was lame..
[00:08] <xjjk> Walzmyn: what does FS problems and the KDE 4.2.3 PPA have to do with each other?
[00:09] <phoenixz> quassel keeps hogging CPU
[00:09] <phoenixz> Graph artifacts all over the place
[00:09] <xjjk> phoenixz: perhaps...
[00:09] <SilentSound> firsm: I have also a cd for kubuntu 6.06 which i believe is dapper, but it wont install. I click install and it... just dies.(the install i mean)
[00:09] <xjjk> phoenixz: I guess we come from different camps
[00:09] <xjjk> I already have a selection of apps I use
[00:09] <phoenixz> just having it stand there.. doing nothing.. and I see crash after crash of various services..
[00:09] <xjjk> and whatever Kubuntu changes as "desktop defaults" doesn't affect me much
[00:09] <xjjk> I still use aptitude, and I still use konversation (even though it's still a KDE3 app)
[00:10] <firsm> SilentSound: Well the install cd is ridicolous, it doesn't even provide LVM; I recommend the alternate
[00:10] <Walzmyn> xjjk: i've no idea, that's why i was saking if anybody else had tried to use it
[00:10] <mandingoceo> hey does anyone know what drivers i need to make the remote work that plugs into the hvr-1600
[00:10] <ahmos> hi i compiled and installed nvclock ,how i can uninstall it?
[00:10] <phoenixz> xjjk: well, I try to show off kubuntu.. I install it with co-workers, claiming its stable, efficient, beautiful.. it used to be all that until 9.04...
[00:10] <firsm> phoenixz: I seriously recommend xfce/xubuntu
[00:10] <phoenixz> just a standard install won't even let me finish updates before ... crash..
[00:10] <SilentSound> firsm: whats the alternate?
[00:10] <zerothis> apt-get source is 'Unable to find a source package'. How dangerous is it to install from pre-jaunty repos?
[00:11] <zerothis> firsm: here here!
[00:11] <phoenixz> firsm: Personally, Im a KDE fan.. :) though this crap is really pushing me
[00:11] <firsm> SilentSound: It's an alternate installation CD without Xorg that let's you do more stuff
[00:11] <phoenixz> All my friends who use linux report problems.. mainly crashes, X freezes, even kernel panics.. what the hell happened?
[00:11] <firsm> phoenixz: Linux has become cool. :p
[00:11] <phoenixz> sure, I use 3rd party repos, fine, blame me... but the rest doesn't and they have the same problems..
[00:11] <SilentSound> firsm: where do i get somethin like thad?
[00:12] <phoenixz> firsm: In that case, I like it hot...
[00:12] <phoenixz> Is there anything known about these problems? Im really not the only one here, but I don't see any publications about it..
[00:12] <firsm> SilentSound: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/jaunty/ for example.
[00:13] <phoenixz> Also, this is not an isolated package that has problems.. its all over the place..
[00:13] <BluesKaj> just installed Jaunty kde3.5 Remix ...just like the old days ! :)
[00:13] <SilentSound> wait, is there a way to install it from the blackscreen im getting? Im using the latest live cd and all that loads is this thing similar to windows cmd
[00:13]  * Walzmyn shakes his head at BluesKaj
[00:13] <firsm> SilentSound: probably if you use different drivers for your video card, but not sure if you do that with the install CD.
[00:14] <firsm> SilentSound: s/if you do that/how you do that
[00:14] <calvin> Hallo, ich möchte ein Film (1080p) hier schauen, aber leider laggt es sehr doll! Was kann man tun?
[00:15] <phoenixz> sound problems too.. phonon - pulse audio is dead here... friend of mine has audio completely dead.. X problems are seen at at least 5 different computers, laptops, desktops, etc.. again, since 9.04
[00:15] <firsm> phoenixz: Yes audio is a mess on linux, I recommend removing pulse which seems to fix 90% of the problems.
[00:15] <BluesKaj> Walzmyn: jaunty kde4 was badly broken on my setup, freezes and crashes , unrecognized HW ..this works , to hell with the kde4 eye candy
[00:17] <zerothis> pulseaudio sucks in all *buntus
[00:17] <BluesKaj> Walzmyn: jaunty alpha nad beta were much more stable than the final release
[00:17] <SilentSound> whats the latest stable release?
[00:17] <phoenixz> Cant we please just fix the basics first, before running off to new stuff? We have the coolest desktop 3d effects ever, best apps, etc.. but sound still is a joke, wifi works if you pray to the penguin, etc..
[00:17] <firsm> phoenixz: haha, my system freezes regularly when not blacklisting ath5k.
[00:17] <hagabaka> those are worked on by different people and most of them don't work for ubuntu
[00:18] <phoenixz> SilentSound: AISI, 8.10 was the latest STABLE release...
[00:18] <zerothis> actually, I havn't had any WiFi problems since hardy
[00:18] <kyle_> phoenix ur having audio problems?
[00:18] <SilentSound> phoenixz: ty
[00:18] <firsm> What problems is he not having? :-)
[00:18] <phoenixz> hagabaka: agreed.. but how is it that since 9.04 suddenly so many diferent systems are failing all thogether?
[00:18] <phoenixz> kyle_: too.. and Im not the only one.
[00:19] <hagabaka> no idea, sound still works fine for me, and i don't use wifi
[00:19] <phoenixz> firsm: Yeah, Im rabling right now but its just incredible.. I saw my beloved kubuntu fall from its tower, flat on its face..
[00:19] <phoenixz> another thing.. I still only have like.. the 10 most basic plasma widgets.. Where the hell are the new ones?
[00:20] <phoenixz> or, how do I install them? I've installed everything related to plasma, but nothing.. Which makes network configuration a bit difficult to say the least :)
[00:20] <kyle_> try the gnome alsa mixer
[00:20] <kyle_> my audio wasnt working at all
[00:20] <kyle_> every since i got that its been perfect
[00:20] <SilentSound> is there a way to install the latest one from the console its giving me?
[00:20] <SilentSound> (live cd)
[00:21] <firsm> kyle_: the gnome alsa mixer eats 100% cpu here
[00:21] <kyle_> what?
[00:21] <kyle_> how?
[00:21] <firsm> kyle_: don't know, maybe related to having multiple soundcards
[00:21] <phoenixz> kyle_: yeah but.. isnt it a bit weird that I have to install the GNOME audio mixer for stuff to work? :)
[00:22] <kyle_> its been perfect to me
[00:22] <kyle_> yeh well that slinux a free head ache
[00:22] <kyle_> i love it though
[00:23] <zerothis> former WiFi problems were: Laptop built-in card not supported. Replacement PCMICA card not supported. 2nd replacement PCMICA card not supported. 3rd replacement PCMICA card not supported. USB WiFi not supported. 2nd Laptop built-in card not supported. 3rd Laptop built-in card not supported. 4th Laptop built-in card not supported. Compile 54 libraries, modules, and apps, ahh haa! Wifi works, B only. Update, Wifi quits working. 
[00:26] <BluesKaj> well, I hope the devs at canonical and elsewhere who are working on the next release , decide to reflect a bit on the direction this OS is going , because it's running with one flat tire right now and they better slow down , stop and fix this flat  before going any further >
[00:27] <BluesKaj> bbiab , gonna config wifi
[00:29] <xjjk> phoenixz: sorry, back
[00:29] <xjjk> missed the discussion
[00:30] <phoenixz> xjjk: can you see the history?
[00:30] <xjjk> phoenixz: reading through it now...
[00:31] <phoenixz> xjjk: anyway... my basic question is.. what happened? its not one service or system that has problems, they are all over the place.. Its also not just me, Ive seen many differnt people.. audio problems is common, X problems (freezes!) are very common.. All of this happened with 9.04, so what happened?
[00:31] <kyle_> just classify it as a beta version of the new release
[00:32] <xjjk> phoenixz: most of this is really well known
[00:32] <xjjk> audio problems: pulseaudio
[00:32] <xjjk> way too new... probably should not have been put in ubuntu/kubuntu so soon
[00:32] <xjjk> X problems, *ESPECIALLY* with Intel graphics
[00:32] <phoenixz> xjjk: correct, phonon tells me pulse is not working.
[00:32] <xjjk> there has been major, major changes with the Intel X driver
[00:32] <kyle_> its all good its still a good os
[00:32] <xjjk> and in the Linux kernel, with regards to graphics
[00:32] <Walzmyn> anybody know if these problems are ubuntu as a whole, or just kubuntu?
[00:32] <phoenixz> xjjk: intel graphs also true
[00:32] <xjjk> DRI2 and what not
[00:33] <xjjk> misc. X problems, also due to Xorg 1.6
[00:33] <kyle_> seems to kubuntu only
[00:33] <phoenixz> Walzmyn: so far, its *ubuntu AFAIK
[00:33]  * Walzmyn nods
[00:33] <xjjk> Walzmyn: sorry ,which problems
[00:33] <phoenixz> kyle_: pulseaudio actually is a ubuntu audio system, is it not?
[00:33] <xjjk> phoenixz: really, it's endemic to all Linux distributions using this selection of software
[00:33] <kyle_> i have no idea
[00:33] <xjjk> you'll get the same problems with Fedora or Gentoo
[00:33] <phoenixz> what xjjk says..
[00:34] <kyle_> i just know i had ubuntu 2 weeks ago and had less problems
[00:34] <phoenixz> Its just weird that all of this gets together like this..
[00:34] <phoenixz> makes it very hard for me to convince people to switch to linux :)
[00:34] <kyle_> linux is hard to get used to
[00:34] <kyle_> tkaes some time to figure things out
[00:35] <xjjk> phoenixz: all in all, 9.04 has been the best release in a while IMHO
[00:35] <kyle_> but all the resources you will need
[00:35] <xjjk> 8.10 I thought was terrible, mostly because of the KDE3/KDE4 kludginess going on
[00:35] <phoenixz> kyle_: thats my experience too yeah.. a few weeks ago, it was all cool and riding the waves like ever.. Now I fear an X freeze or other problem around every corner, doenst make for great user experience :)
[00:35] <xjjk> 8.04 was OK but not as good as 6.06 was
[00:35] <phoenixz> kyle_: its really not htat hard with just some basic guidance.. it does get hard when things just don't work..
[00:36] <phoenixz> xjjk: 8.10 actually worked out quite fine for me
[00:36] <Walzmyn> xjjk: i was refering to everything phoenixz is complaining about
[00:36] <kyle_> yuppers... but everything can be figured out
[00:36] <xjjk> Walzmyn: it's not really *ubuntu-specific
[00:36] <ign0ramus> intel issues are *so* much better if you use the (unsupported) 2.6.30-020630rc5 kernel and a few other tweaks
[00:36] <phoenixz> kyle_: X freezes? audio problems like that? :) not good..
[00:36] <Walzmyn> xjjk: yeah, i'm sorta keeping up with the discussion :)
[00:37] <ign0ramus> really the only thing that kept me on Jaunty
[00:37] <phoenixz> If Linux / ubuntu wants to be able to get accepted by common users, this stuff really can not happen
[00:37] <xjjk> ign0ramus: do they have a PPA or something that rebuilds linux-restricted-modules and what not for 2.6.30
[00:37] <ign0ramus> xjjk, yeah, its the 'xorg-edgers' ppa
[00:37] <genii> Part of it is everyone rushes to install the intermediate versions between LTS, when these are basically testing ground versions
[00:37] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: Im listening.. where do I get that kernel?
[00:37] <xjjk> ign0ramus: ah, cool... didn't know the kernel was in there
[00:37] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, hang on tutorial coming
[00:38] <xjjk> genii: I'm not sure whether that makes a difference...
[00:38] <ign0ramus> rc5 just came out today -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[00:38] <xjjk> a problem here is that Ubuntu focuses around time-based releases
[00:38] <Walzmyn> genii: I wanted to stay on the LTS, but there was so much software that was not gettin gupdated that I wanted to use
[00:38] <xjjk> for non and LTS releases
[00:38] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: I also read about a PPA where there was a new kernel that has kernel mode switching or something, which also had updated intel drivers AND should be a lot more stable..
[00:38] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: is that the same one?
[00:38] <xjjk> other distributions have a "when it's ready" attitude
[00:39] <xjjk> or are rolling, like arch/gentoo
[00:39] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, i don't know anything about kernel mode switching :/
[00:39] <Walzmyn> xjjk: yeah, like debian, which has a new version every decade?
[00:39] <Zengol> Is there a way to restore GRUB after a different OS whiped it out?
[00:39] <phoenixz> xjjk: sure, I can imagine.. but then they need to make simple decisions.. is it ready? great, we take it.. not ready ? next release! These intel drivers are a joke and should never have been used.. they should have stayed a kernel behind then if needed..
[00:39] <xjjk> Walzmyn: Debian is sort of both, IMHO...
[00:40] <xjjk> "stable" is released-oriented, "testing" and "sid" are rolling
[00:40] <ign0ramus> i keep my 2.6.28-12-generic just in case, but the rc4 & rc5 have been running great with no breakage on my system
[00:40] <xjjk> like arch/gentoo
[00:40] <xjjk> that said
[00:40] <Walzmyn> xjjk t'was making a joke
[00:40] <xjjk> I don't know *anyone* who uses Debian stable
[00:40] <Walzmyn> not for the desktop, it's a server release
[00:41] <xjjk> Walzmyn: even for servers
[00:41] <xjjk> all my servers use Debian testing
[00:41] <xjjk> Debian's own servers use Debian testing
[00:41]  * Walzmyn shrugs
[00:41] <ign0ramus> Zengol, a little old, but still works : http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/
[00:41] <Walzmyn> i don't run servers
[00:41] <genii> Wandering offtopic
[00:41] <xjjk> Walzmyn: generally, it's similar to desktops... you don't want to be running old cruddy software
[00:41] <xjjk> you accept software a little bit older
[00:42] <xjjk> but not years old
[00:42] <Walzmyn> xjjk: makes sence
[00:42] <Zengol> ign0ramus: I just found an option in System Setting's tha let's me restore GRUB to different partition's or drive's.
[00:42] <Walzmyn> what is that magic package I can never find that makes dolphin show video previews?
[00:42] <Zengol> ign0ramus: Thank's anyway though man.
[00:42] <xjjk> phoenixz: decisions on what kernel/software to use are made pretty early on in development cycle
[00:43] <xjjk> they're not going to revert to a previous version because the current doesn't work
[00:43] <ign0ramus> Zengol, no problem... i didn't even know that was an option now
[00:43] <xjjk> that makes all the work the developers did mostly a waste of time
[00:43] <zerothis> phoenixz: as to what happened, Pulse audio happened two releases ago. KDE 4 comes from other teams that do not consult Ubuntu people. X.org is also another team, and lots of Linux distros have been effected by their decisions. For instance, they simply dropped support for a huge range of Intel cards. The drivers for newer cards have basic functionality, so they *removed* the drivers for older cards. X.org did a lot of great th
[00:43] <xjjk> phoenixz: and the problem with the "wait till stuff is stable" mantra... is where do you cut the line
[00:43] <Zengol> ign0ramus: It's in System Setting's > Advanced > GRUB Editor.
[00:43] <xjjk> on what holds a release and what doesn't
[00:44] <Zengol> ign0ramus: GRUB Editor > Tool's.
[00:44] <ign0ramus> Zengol, cool.  good to know.  livecds are always good in a pinch, too ;)
[00:44] <Zengol> ign0ramus: Yeah, that's what i was abotu to do, it will let me re-write the MBR using GRUB.
[00:44] <ign0ramus> Zengol, you must have a specific package installed, as i don't have that option
[00:45] <Zengol> ign0ramus: I'm using Intrepid if that help's.
[00:45] <ign0ramus> Zengol, that may be it.  i skipped intrepid entirely...
[00:45] <ign0ramus> I waited for "stable" kde ;-)
[00:45] <Zengol> ign0ramus: I could not use 9.04, I am running an Intel chipset and it does not like it very well.
[00:46] <ign0ramus> Zengol, that's what i have, and it's pretty snappy after a ton of workarounds and hacks!
[00:46] <phoenixz> zerothis: xjjk: These are explanations htat I can use :) thanks.. the thing is just, bad coincidence then I guess.. becuase every new release has a few problems, but this time it was like a waterfall of big bad problems.
[00:46] <zerothis> The Intell card problems are the result of X. Perhaps kubuntu's other problems are aggravating them. But believe me, I've had equal troubles in xubuntu and ubuntu. Even Virtualised Haiku has got some weird things going wrong with the graphics, I'm starting to suspect they use org
[00:46] <ign0ramus> average cpu load is still like 22% on idle (X mostly)
[00:46] <xjjk> phoenixz: if you're going to show off Ubuntu, it may be best to show off an LTS release
[00:46] <xjjk> all the major problems with it are fixed by now
[00:47] <phoenixz> xjjk: Whats the latest LTS release?
[00:47] <xjjk> phoenixz: 8.04
[00:47] <genii> 8.04
[00:47] <Zengol> I'll stick with 8.10 It work's very well for me so far.
[00:47] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, was Kubuntu 8.04 considered 'lts'?
[00:47] <xjjk> or stick with whatever the last release worked for you
[00:47] <phoenixz> xjjk: today I installed it with a co-worker to show eucalyptus, which in 9.04 is part of the repos.. I wanted to show him how easy it is and well.. that was a disappointment :)
[00:47] <ign0ramus> i've heard conflicting reports that only Ubuntu was lts... :/
[00:48] <kyle_> well guys im going to check out Vector a linux OS and if its any good im going to get rid of kubuntu
[00:48] <phoenix__> shitt
[00:48] <xjjk> phoenix__: bleh
[00:48] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: xjjk: AFAIK, Kubuntu 8.04 is NOT LTS, only ubuntu, thanks to KDE 4 :P
[00:48] <xjjk> phoenixz: sorry, that's right
[00:48] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, that's what i was told.
[00:48] <genii> phoenixz: Please watch the profanities :)
[00:48] <zerothis> And somthing else. Some of us who have been using Linux since the begining have experienced real hard times. Recent linux history with its overall success, may have spoiled us and we forgot where we came from
[00:48] <xjjk> thanks for the correction
[00:48] <phoenixz> genii: Profanities? where?
[00:50] <ign0ramus> zerothis, i will agree things are much easier now, but it's wrong for certain foundations to promote their distros as 'primetime ready' when they are clearly not
[00:50] <genii> phoenixz: Apologies on premature tab-complete
[00:50] <phoenixz> genii: Hehe, NP
[00:51] <mandingoceo> hey does anyone know what drivers i need to make the remote work that plugs into the hvr-1600
[00:51] <Zengol> Ok, time to try and restore GRUB.
[00:51] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: amen to that.. :) its kind of like the KDE4.0 discussions.. sure, 4.0 was like nice as an alpha, but it was released as "done" which it was clearly not..
[00:52] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, i don't mind doing some hacking on my own, but i feel bad for others that are lulled into certain distros, thinking that everything will just work
[00:53] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, most blogs on Linux are now Ubuntu blogs, and always proclaim how superior it is.  It is a fine distro and Linux is great, but these authors are not giving the entire picture, which can really mislead people new to Linux.
[00:54] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: exactly.. I myself many times try bleeding edge stuff... most of the time it works, but I can't have my mom encounter this stuff, she will panic..
[00:54] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, my dad, same thing... and (wait for it...) he's a coloniel!
[00:54]  * ign0ramus groans at his own lame pun
[00:54] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: actually, I have my parents on ubuntu now.. lots less trouble then windows, but they're on 8.04 and the way I see it, they can stay there for a little while longer..
[00:55] <phoenixz> ign0ramus: coloniel?
[00:55] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, *colonel
[00:56] <ign0ramus> that doesn't look right, either :/
[00:57] <ign0ramus> in any event, it was a lame pun "colonel panic".  i FAIL.
[00:58] <ign0ramus> phoenixz, but yeah, 8.04 was my favorite release so far (i started on feisty), but i had to try kde4.
[00:58] <davidjheinrich> why the hell did Kubuntu include Amorak 2.0?
[00:58] <SilentSound> whats 8.1 called?
[00:58] <davidjheinrich> Amorak 2.0 freaking sucks
[00:58] <SilentSound> or .04 or w/e
[00:58] <phoenixz> davidjheinrich: there we have another discussion.. :)
[00:58] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, 8.10 is intrepid ibex
[00:58] <SilentSound> ty
[00:58] <kaddi> davidjheinrich: preach it :)
[00:59] <davidjheinrich> Amorak 1.4 was the easiest thing to use; 2.0, wtf?
[00:59] <ign0ramus> you can install amarok 1.4 again... i did. amarok2 SUCKS.
[00:59] <phoenixz> Honestly, i'll take Amarok 1.4 too..
[00:59] <davidjheinrich> I can't even get my music to play on 2.0!
[00:59] <kaddi> davidjheinrich and it can't even play CDs
[00:59] <xjjk> ign0ramus: is there a good repo for that/
[00:59] <kaddi> lol, that's worse XD
[00:59] <davidjheinrich> what the hell were the Amarok devs hinking? NOTHING was wrong with it -- it was fine
[00:59] <SilentSound> so kubuntu is good for running website
[00:59] <ign0ramus> xjjk, yup.  let me check my /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:59] <SilentSound> right?
[01:00] <phoenixz> SilentSound: sure
[01:00] <davidjheinrich> I don't understand why they screwed up the interface -- why mess with perfection?
[01:00] <phoenixz> SilentSound: I use it as a production server for our php based intranet system... works flawlessly
[01:00] <phoenixz> davidjheinrich: I feel kind of the nero effect on Amarok 2...
[01:00] <SilentSound> phoenixz: that was a lot of squigles to me, but i saw the word server lol
[01:00] <davidjheinrich> phoenixz, what's the nero effect?
[01:00] <ign0ramus> xjjk, Amarok 1.4 for all again! https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa
[01:01] <phoenixz> davidjheinrich: Must do new interface, must...upgrade... new... change... so that people keep buying our cr#p...
[01:01] <SilentSound> phoenixz: all i want to do is run a website. and host my own dns...
[01:01] <ign0ramus> xjjk, also, if anyone's interested, i found a great ppa for VLC that runs in a *single window*
[01:01] <phoenixz> SilentSound: yes, it can be a web server too... better?
[01:01] <xjjk> ign0ramus: I use smplayer (and love it), so no matter there
[01:02] <davidjheinrich> phoenixz: yea, lol, what a joke....as if the 2.0 interface is better...just looking at it blows
[01:02] <ign0ramus> xjjk, i take it that it is a frontend for mplayer, yes?
[01:02]  * phoenixz feels the need to browse these PPA's from launchpad a bit more for cool stuff
[01:02] <xjjk> phoenixz, davidjheinrich, ign0ramus: I think the Amarok 2 devels meant well... Amarok 2.1 is supposed to be a lot better
[01:02] <kaddi> and 2.2 will even play CDs :D
[01:02] <silviu> y'en a t-il un qui parle francais?
[01:02] <xjjk> ign0ramus: yes
[01:02] <xjjk> je ne parle pas francais
[01:02] <kaddi> !fr |silviu
[01:02] <ign0ramus> xjjk, i actually frequent #amarok from time to time, and they're generally good devs, but i think they're pissed about everyone bitching
[01:02] <davidjheinrich> is 2.1 avail now as an update?
[01:03] <xjjk> davidjheinrich: no, it's still in beta
[01:03] <phoenixz> davidjheinrich: that was the point... :) Ever seen the windows nero cd/dvd burning suite? it used to rock.. but then everybody had it and they wanted to sell again so... must make new user interface.. weather it sucks or not doesnt matter..
[01:03] <phoenixz> xjjk: its it available anywhere at all?
[01:03] <xjjk> I'm sure there's a PPA or something
[01:03] <ign0ramus> Although the devs in #amarok told me they do not plan on integrating MusicBrainz into Amarok2 at all.  I need that.
[01:03] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus, yea, well, I can't blame people for bitching at Am devs...it was perfect
[01:03] <xjjk> ign0ramus: oh? why so
[01:04] <silviu> hello
[01:04] <davidjheinrich> who's selling amarok anyways?
[01:04] <ign0ramus> xjjk, why do i need musicbrainz, or why are they not including it?
[01:04] <kaddi> !hi|silviu :)
[01:04] <xjjk> ign0ramus: why are they not including it
[01:05] <ign0ramus> xjjk, from the team: "No MusicBrainz, but we have plans for something better. Stay tuned :)"
[01:05] <xjjk> ign0ramus: mmm... OK...
[01:05] <xjjk> ign0ramus: that sort of echoes what I was saying
[01:05] <ign0ramus> xjjk, what's that exactly?
 I feel like grabbing the devs of amarok and shaking them </rand>
[01:06] <davidjheinrich> err, </rant>
[01:06] <xjjk> ign0ramus: I'm sure the Amarok devs meant well
[01:06] <mandingoceo> does any1 have an hvr-1600 capture card working
[01:06] <xjjk> but given limited time, you can only do so much
[01:06] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, i think amarok2 will be much better, but it was a BAD idea to include it by default
[01:06] <xjjk> amarok2.0 is akin to kde4.0
[01:06] <ign0ramus> songbird is even more stable and robust... sheesh
[01:07] <davidjheinrich> yea, I guess it's more Kubuntu's fault for including it
[01:07] <kaddi> xjjk types quicker than me XD... I was going to point out kde4.1 in intrepid :P
[01:07] <davidjheinrich> after all, they're trying to rework it, and it's a WIP
[01:07] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, you can always talk to the guys in #amarok, they're pretty cool if you don't come in complaining :)
[01:08] <davidjheinrich> what I'm curious about is what happened to the old ("iTunes-like") interface, are they bringing that back? where do you even see lists of what's ian album? why is "Last Played" taking up the entire pane in he middle
[01:09] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, the middle pane is eventually going to be much more usable, and it's also where all current scripts (like for lyrics) are displayed
[01:09] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, that said, i still find it instrusive and ugly :/
[01:09] <davidjheinrich> yea, me too
[01:10] <ign0ramus> it seems since kde4, many native apps have lost the whole "you can make your own configuration" ideal, which is sad
[01:11] <ign0ramus> is there a way to even resize icons on the panel?
[01:11] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: I don't think so yet.
[01:11] <ign0ramus> i don't need them Windows7-huge... i hope there's a way around that too
[01:12] <ign0ramus> what about the little arrow that used to hide the panel?  can we do that, or is it 'auto-hide' only?
[01:12] <Walzmyn> auto only i believe
[01:13] <ign0ramus> what drew me to kde was the control it gave over the UI, and much of that is gone.  i know kde4 is still new, but i really hope these options return
[01:13] <davidjheinrich> imo, it seems like they're trying to push for too much too fast
[01:13] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: they're working on putting htem back in
[01:13] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, good to hear.
[01:13] <davidjheinrich> like Quassel instead of Konversation....b/c hey wnat everything Qt4
[01:14] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, i have qt4 Konversation ;)
[01:14] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, tbh, i didn't even really give quassel a chance, but it didn't suit me, so i went and got the kde4 port (svn) of Konversation.  Much happier now :)
[01:15] <kaddi> he's so shocked he leaves :o
[01:15] <ign0ramus> haha
[01:15]  * kaddi hast qt4 konversatin as well :)
[01:15] <ign0ramus> well, he can "Chat comfortably.  Anywhere" if he so chooses :)
[01:15] <kaddi> and i love it :)
[01:16] <ign0ramus> kaddi, the only thing i'm missing is the right-click on a nick options in the chat pane
[01:16] <ign0ramus> kaddi, other than that, everything is beautiful
[01:16] <kaddi> didn't even know that existed, till now :D
[01:17] <davidjheinrich> why doesn't sudo install amarok14 work for me?
[01:17] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, do you have the ppa listed in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:17] <kaddi> what I'm missing, (but I never got round suggesting it, so I#
[01:17] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, and you're missing an "apt-get" in there too
[01:17] <davidjheinrich> yea, I put that in when typed in term, just missed in here
[01:17] <davidjheinrich> what is a ppa?
[01:18] <Walzmyn> davidjheinrich: it's a private repo where folks put stuff that's not in the regular repos yet
[01:19] <kaddi> what I'm missing, (but I never got round suggesting it, so I'm not complaining ;) ) is a auto identify that works with auth :)
[01:19] <davidjheinrich> so what do I add to his file?
[01:19] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, tutorial here: http://nomad.ca/blog/2009/apr/3/amarok-14-jaunty-ubuntu-904/
[01:19] <SilentSound> i officially hate live cds
[01:19] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, those are some strong words
[01:20] <Walzmyn> i officially love live CDs - they let ya do so much you can't do with winders
[01:20] <ign0ramus> kaddi, there's probably a bash script you can run on startup that will accomplish that for you
[01:20] <ign0ramus> kaddi, *on Konversation startup
[01:21] <SilentSound> i know, but i find them so slow xD
[01:21] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, you're living in memory!
[01:21] <SilentSound> ??
[01:21] <kaddi> i just added /auth name password as "command" on server-connection, but it took me a while to understand why auto identify wasn't working ;)
[01:21] <davidjheinrich> arg, that tutorial sucks
[01:21] <davidjheinrich> it's exposing the screen tearing bug problem with the radeonhd drivers
[01:22] <davidjheinrich> 1st webpage I've seen tearing on
[01:22] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, you're depending on reading from a disc and working in memory to do anything.  of course it's slow
[01:22] <SilentSound> lol i c
[01:22] <SilentSound> i know its slow, but its still annoying... i do suppose they are really useful though
[01:22] <ign0ramus> davidjheinrich, do you know how to add ppa's and keys, then update and upgrade?  that's all it really is...
[01:23] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, *very* useful, especially for your windows 'friends' who totally borked their system
[01:23] <SilentSound> lol very true
[01:23] <ign0ramus> i have an old livecd that i keep in the trunk of the car, just in case
[01:23] <ign0ramus> many older computers still can't boot from usb
[01:23] <tzanger> le sigh.  I think KDE4 was a real mistake for 9.04
[01:23] <davidjheinrich> I got the site working
[01:23] <tzanger> it's still very unstable :-(
[01:24] <SilentSound> im new, so im going to ask what is probably a common, nooby question: Can I run windows programs on linux? i.e. games or things like sony vegas
[01:24] <davidjheinrich> it just opened in a diff browser than firefox which exposed radeonhd / kwin tearing issues
[01:24] <ign0ramus> !wine | SilentSound
[01:24] <tzanger> SilentSound: wine, virtualbox, etc...
[01:24] <SilentSound> wow, thanks
[01:24] <davidjheinrich> I actually like KDE4....I just don't like some of these horrible app decisions
[01:24] <tzanger> wine's kind of iffy for that if you ask me, but virtualbox is what I use to sync up my iphone
[01:24] <tzanger> davidjheinrich: oh I love kde4
[01:24] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, it doesn't work for everything, and the things that do work aren't always perfect, but its good enough for basic stuff
[01:25] <tzanger> but honestly, I'm stting at 100% CPU righ tnow with kded
[01:25] <davidjheinrich> I thought Quassel blowed vs. Konversation, but at least it was usable...Amorak 2.0 is completely unusable to me vs. 1.4
[01:25] <davidjheinrich> lol
[01:25] <tzanger> with X righ tbehind it
[01:25] <tzanger> I'm not doing a thing on the system
[01:25] <tzanger> oh now I know what it was
[01:25] <ign0ramus> tzanger, i use Vbox for my crappy printer, cell phone, and ms exchange (work email). and that's it.
[01:25] <tzanger> it was an "authorization dialog" in the background  waiting ofr me to enter a password for a private RSS feed.
[01:25] <SilentSound> is it good enough to run things like games or rly complex programs/
[01:26] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, you'll probably want CrossOver for something like that... or just keep your windows partition
[01:26] <SilentSound> ah ok
[01:26] <tzanger> ign0ramus: I use it for the iphone and for mplab and also for my USB data logger
[01:26] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, there are tuts out there how to run like WoW or whatever in wine, but it's a lot of hacking
[01:27] <ign0ramus> tzanger, usb data logger?
[01:27] <tzanger> ign0ramus: yeah, I do embedded system development
[01:27] <SilentSound> oh man maybe i wont replace my laptop then
[01:27] <tzanger> I have a nice tektronix 1281 but it's 20 years old and frankly not quite as useful for the kinds of data logging I do these days
[01:27] <ign0ramus> tzanger, cool.  what kind of embedded systems?
[01:27] <tzanger> if I was watching a full 32 bit bus or something sure, but 99% of my work is telephony or little stuff
[01:27] <tzanger> ign0ramus: lots of things
[01:28] <tzanger> industrial stuff, telephony stuff, etc
[01:28] <ign0ramus> tzanger, i always think of like cash registers for some reason, but i know there's much MUCH more..
[01:28] <tzanger> yes cash registers are embedded
[01:28] <ign0ramus> tzanger, is it true that almost all embedded systems use some variant of Linux?
[01:29] <tzanger> ign0ramus: hell no
[01:29] <ign0ramus> no?
[01:29] <tzanger> 99% of embedded is OS-less
[01:30] <ign0ramus> hmm... what makes them 'run'?
[01:30] <ign0ramus> tzanger, maybe i should just read a wikipedia article or something, because that question probably has a very long answer :)
[01:32] <SilentSound> hmm i cant find the specs for the comp im using
[01:32] <tzanger> :-) moment
[01:32] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, what are you trying to figure out?
[01:32] <SilentSound> if the computer im using can handle intrepid
[01:32] <SilentSound> HP Pavilion x1923 designed for windows 2000
[01:33] <rmrfslash> SilentSound: sudo dmidecode --type 17
[01:34] <SilentSound> rmrfslash: I havent been ableto get it working yet, im trying to install without starting the desktop part of live cd
[01:34] <rmrfslash> SilentSound: woops..... sudo dmidecode
[01:34] <rmrfslash> SilentSound: don't append the --type 17 (that's just something I was needing recently)
[01:35] <rmrfslash> SilentSound: that command should still work... I think
[01:35] <ign0ramus> rmrfslash, that's actually a pretty handy command, and one that i've never seen before :)
[01:35] <SilentSound> theres no where for me to enter it o.O
[01:35] <rmrfslash> SilentSound: oh, you'
[01:39] <SilentSound> can a comp designed for 2000 handle intrepid?
[01:40] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, do you have 256MB of RAM?
[01:40] <SilentSound> im not even sure. Cant find specs T_T
[01:40] <SilentSound> hold on im looking
[01:41] <tzanger> ign0ramus: most embedded systems run on tiny little microcontrollers; they run a "fixed" program which takes care of everything
[01:41] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, you could always take a peek inside the case ;)
[01:41] <ign0ramus> tzanger, i'm going to read up on that... i actually find it interesting
[01:41] <tzanger> it is interesting
[01:41] <tzanger> I love it
[01:42] <SilentSound> oh right lol forgot about that
[01:43] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, see here for system reqs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu#System_requirements
[01:43] <SilentSound> i cant see, the fan has a huge cover over everything and its impossible to remove... well, its difficult
[01:43] <SilentSound> thanks
[01:43] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, is it running win2k right now?
[01:44] <SilentSound> yes
[01:44] <SilentSound> i think i have about 380mb ram
[01:44] <GodFather> I need a current version of /etc/apt/source.list for feisty, I need to update a file
[01:46] <genii> GodFather: Feisty is past it's End-of-life a while ago now. The repositories at this point get moved to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[01:47] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, isn't there a "System" option you can select that will give you your hardware specs?
[01:47] <SilentSound> no, im trying to install kubuntu
[01:47] <SilentSound> its lagging really badly, ive been trying to click next for 10 minutes
[01:47] <ign0ramus> SilentSound, I know, but you said it still has win2k installed on it
[01:47] <GodFather> genii: Thanks I will point there
[01:48] <chunk> hiya
[01:48] <chunk> i ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty
[01:48] <chunk> where's the atheros drivers ?
[01:49] <chunk> ath5k module
[01:51] <SilentSound> it doesn, but im in the kubuntu live cd install right nwo
[01:52] <genii> chunk: modprobe -l | grep ath5k                     shold tell if that driver is available somewhere, if it produces a result. To load it use like: sudo modprobe ath5k
[01:54] <ign0ramus> genii, while we're on the topic, what's the command to unload a module/
[01:54] <genii> ign0ramus: sudo modprobe -r modulename
[01:54] <ign0ramus> genii, thanks.
[01:54] <genii> ign0ramus: You're welcome
[01:55] <ign0ramus> "genii: when you're too lazy to use the man pages"
[01:55] <ign0ramus> :)
[01:55] <afeijo> !java
[01:55] <ign0ramus> afeijo, did you install the kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[01:56] <afeijo> ign0ramus: yes
[01:56] <ign0ramus> afeijo, and java still isn't working?
[01:56] <afeijo> no :( one of my bank use it
[01:56] <genii> ign0ramus: Some people would use rmmod to yank out a module. But modprobe -r will also unload it's sub-dependent modules as well
[01:56] <afeijo> I will try the sun-java6-jre
[01:56] <ign0ramus> genii, good to know. thanks.
[01:57] <afeijo> ops, I already have it! OMG
[01:57] <ign0ramus> afeijo, you can test your java here: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[01:57] <afeijo> my sister needs to access her bank acct
[01:57] <ign0ramus> afeijo, what does "sudo update-java-alternatives -l" produce?
[01:58] <afeijo> java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk
[01:58] <afeijo> java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[01:58] <ign0ramus> afeijo, hmm.. and you're using firefox?
[01:58] <afeijo> yes, v.3
[01:59] <ign0ramus> afeijo, and you're on jaunty?
[01:59] <afeijo> yes
[01:59] <ign0ramus> afeijo, ok, well you have java installed, see if this helps: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-904-jaunty.html
[02:00] <afeijo> ign0ramus: it was working to my 8.04 version, I had to install linux all over, this time I pike ver.9
[02:00] <ign0ramus> afeijo, i feel your pain.  you should be able to get it working again :)
[02:00] <afeijo> accessing the site :)
[02:00] <ign0ramus> ok, i'm off for some drinks.  night all!
[02:02] <afeijo> yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:02] <afeijo> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[02:02] <afeijo> that did it
[02:02] <afeijo> thanks so much ign0ramus (he left :( )
[02:05] <jseabold> Can anyone tell me how to add a folder to my PYTHONPATH in kubuntu?  What do I need to add to .bashrc?  I've seen conflicting information.
[02:09] <jseabold> is it just export "export PYTHONPATH=/path/to/folder"?
[02:11] <kaddi> jseabold that should work for as long as your session is logged in., but you'll probably have to refresh afterwards... I don't know the ansewr to your question, I'm sry
[02:11] <jseabold> kaddi: that sounds right, I'm about to restart X and see...*fingers crossed*
[02:15] <jseabold> kaddi: that worked.  thanks.
[02:15] <siddharta> hi everyone: i've been trying to find which system variable holds the name of the distro used ... but to no avail, all webpages i've read mention several variables but not the one i need
[02:16] <siddharta> for example, i use hardinfo and sysinfo and both of them display the field: "Distribution: Ubuntu 8.04.2"
[02:17] <siddharta> i didn't find anything in /proc, and i haven't found something like 'echo $DISTRONAME' or something like that
[02:19] <genii> siddharta: /etc/issue
[02:19] <siddharta> genii: thank you very much !!
[02:20] <genii> siddharta: You're welcome
[02:20] <siddharta> genii: do you know if, by any chance, there's another way of file?
[02:21] <chunk> i found an ath9k under modprobe -l
[02:21] <chunk> then i modprobed it.
[02:21] <chunk> nothing
[02:21] <chunk> i want my wirelss
[02:21] <genii> siddharta: There are two other commands. lsb_release -a     will show the Ubuntu specifics for instance. The other is uname -a    which shows kernel revision, other stuff not ubuntu-specific
[02:22] <genii> chunk: Did you bring up the interface after loading the module?
[02:22] <siddharta> genii: thank you very much, that will work for my purpose :)
[02:23] <genii> siddharta: Glad to have assisted
[02:23] <siddharta> genii: i've already used uname -a but I needed the Ubuntu word :)
[02:23] <siddharta> thank you,. you've been very kind
[02:23] <tzanger> siddharta: a Hesse fan?
[02:23] <siddharta> tzanger: actually is my 1st name .. and my last name is Buda
[02:24] <siddharta> yes, I read the HHesse book , several times :)
[02:25] <chunk> genii: wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[02:25] <phoenixz> What device do I need to change permissions to enable me to create a raw socket in PHP as user "apache" ?
[02:25] <dhuv> hello all
[02:25] <kaddi> !hi|dhuv
[02:26] <genii> chunk: I would suggest to put the module name into /etc/modules and try a reboot. The "no such device" will occur even if a driver is loaded but if there is no /etc/network/interfaces entry, for instance.
[02:26] <dhuv> I was wondering if there are instructions on how to download and install OSX widgets in Jaunty
[02:33] <Manyfold> flash in firefox stopped working schockwave flash plugin listed as active :(
[02:34] <lucax1> hey guys, one simple question, how do i turn off sounds of gtk apps on kde?
[02:34] <lucax1> ive installed ubuntu not kubuntu and i hear the sounds of ubuntu theme when i click on gtk icons and stuff
[02:35] <jake_> does enyone know who billy acidus is
[02:40] <SilentSound> wow i fail epicly. I opend my comp and found that i only have 128mb of ram
[02:41] <SilentSound> so i now have a question: can i simply plug in more ram then start it up?
[02:42] <SilentSound> does anyone know?
[02:43] <genii> SilentSound: You should have min 256 to try an install, unless you use the alternate cd
[02:43] <SilentSound> ya, im asking if i can just plug in more ram and turn the thing on
[02:43] <SilentSound> or do i have to do something else
[02:44] <jake_> does anyone in here know billy acidus
[02:44] <SilentSound> 'cause i only have 128mb ram inside right now
[02:44] <SilentSound> im wondering if i simply clip some more in and start
[02:45] <genii> SilentSound: If everything else is connected, you should just be able to snap it in and power up
[02:45] <SilentSound> sweet! what about harddrives and cd drives?
[02:46] <genii> SilentSound: "If everything else is connected" , you should just be able to snap it in and power up. EG: Your hd/cd etc haven't been disconnected in the progress of installing your ram....
[02:47] <SilentSound> no they havent
[02:47] <genii> SilentSound: Then you should be good to go.
[02:49] <SilentSound> thanks man
[02:49] <phoenixz> What device do I need to change permissions to enable me to create a raw socket in PHP as user "apache" ?
[02:54] <genii> phoenixz: The apache webserver in Ubuntu uses name:group of www-data
[02:55] <afeijo> anyone good with bash files? I was thinking if its possible to create a script to rename my photos, like this mask: 'yymmdd #.jpg', where # is a sequencial number
[02:56] <kaddi> afeija look into jhead that should do exactly what you want
[02:56] <kaddi> if the information is stored in the files, it'll also automatically rotate your pictures :)
[02:56] <afeijo> jhead? ok
[02:56] <phoenixz> genii: actually, my apache server uses sven:sven, but that should not matter.. point is, I want to ping, directly from PHP, but in order to do that I need to change socket permissions.. so what device file is the socket PHP would write to?
[02:56] <kaddi> afeijo should be in the reps
[02:56] <afeijo> yes, installing
[02:57] <genii> phoenixz: Not sure. Probably to some path in the php.ini though
[02:58] <phoenixz> genii: that would be doubtful.. :)
[02:58] <phoenixz> gotta go
[02:58] <phoenixz> laters
[02:59] <afeijo> now its time to -h :)
[03:01] <kaddi> yes... :D I would give you a sample commadn, but i tent to mess it up... so i let you make your mistakes :D
[03:01] <genii> Deekay: Please don't PM, I assist in public channel only. As for VNC issues, I don't use it much and am not familiar with troubleshooting issues with it.
[03:02] <Deekay> % ./vncinstall /usr/local/bin
[03:03] <Deekay> what that means
[03:03] <Deekay> bash: fg: %: no such job
[03:11] <SilentSound> all i did was plug in more ram and now the comp has stopped
[03:11] <SilentSound> moniter wont turn on.....
[03:12] <SilentSound> cd drive works....
[03:12] <SilentSound> internet connection active....
[03:12] <gedeon> je suis la
[03:13] <don_> hello
[03:14] <genii> gedeon: /join #ubuntu-fr   por francais
[03:15] <genii> SilentSound: You had the computer powered on when you put the ram in???
[03:15] <SilentSound> yes
[03:15] <SilentSound> but no display
[03:15]  * genii shakes his head
[03:15] <SilentSound> led for internet connection is functional
[03:16] <SilentSound> cd drive is functional
[03:16] <SilentSound> but no display
[03:16] <genii> SilentSound: Probably you didn't kill anything, but it's not a good idea to stick ram in when box is powered. You didn't say it wasn't powered off earlier
[03:17] <SilentSound> it was powered off, im not stupid.
[03:17] <SilentSound> it was powered off and unplugged and moved to my workstation
[03:18] <SilentSound> no response from keyboard either
[03:18] <genii> SilentSound: Ah, ok then. Maybe you used two different speed ram, or something similar
[03:18] <SilentSound> k i removed the one i added
[03:18] <SilentSound> still nothing.
[03:18] <genii> SilentSound: The one you added in... if you remove the original (which we know worked) does the new one work to power on?
[03:18] <SilentSound> removing one sec
[03:20] <SilentSound> i replaced the original in the original slot with the other one
[03:20] <SilentSound> jesus it worked
[03:20] <SilentSound> but why wont the other one work
[03:21] <SilentSound> the original doesnt work now... ?!
[03:21] <genii> SilentSound: Maybe it thinks dual-channel ram but it's not.
[03:21] <SilentSound> uhm...
[03:21] <SilentSound> how do i fix that? and what does that mean?!
[03:22] <genii> SilentSound: If you have for instance 4 slots...2 will be a colour and the other 2 will be a different colour. Put the sticks in 2 different colour slots if you have those
[03:22] <SilentSound> i have only two black slots
[03:22] <SilentSound> T_T
[03:23] <SilentSound> its an HP Pavilion x1923
[03:23] <SilentSound> ive got seven total sticks of ram here...
[03:23] <genii> SilentSound: My best guess is to try and find 2 which are same speed and same capacity to use
[03:24] <SilentSound> then i dont think i can get 254 T_T
[03:24] <SilentSound> only like 192mb
[03:24] <SilentSound> wait not even
[03:24] <SilentSound> lol
[03:25] <SilentSound> unless... hold on
[03:25] <SilentSound> wow stick im using now is hella quicker
[03:25] <SilentSound> it might be 254 on its on o.O
[03:25] <SilentSound> it must be comp is moving smoothly now
[03:26] <SilentSound> dammit i gotta sleep
[03:26] <SilentSound> got school tomorrow *sigh*
[03:26] <SilentSound> anyways thanks a ton genii
[03:27] <SilentSound> cya around
[03:27] <genii> SilentSound: Well, whenever you get the hardware sorted out, I guess we may see you again
[03:31] <snell> join / #ffado
[03:39] <coleys> Hey would anyone suggest any other text editors besides kate? Or is kate my best option?
[03:40] <dwidmann> coleys: what sort of text editor do you need? (Seeing as Kate is great)
[03:43] <tdapple> I found a good way to sync Konqueror settings and bookmarks between computers http://www.tdapple.com/2009/05/sync-konqueror-bookmarks-between.html
[03:46] <liz> hello room, anyone know if I have to uninstall google earth 4.2 before installing 4.3???
[03:48] <liz> nevermind :) it does it on its own
[03:49] <coleys> dwidmann: Just for regular stuff like sources.list etc.
[03:49] <coleys> I dont mind it at all, just wondering if people prefer others for kde. I'm new to kde, mainly been gnome before =/
[03:49] <chunk> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.243 netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:49] <chunk> doesent werk
[03:50] <chunk> why
[03:50] <chunk>  ifconfig eth0 address 192.168.1.243 netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:50] <chunk> fails
[03:55] <trappist> is there some kind of wireless gotcha upgrading to jaunty?  my ath0 doesn't seem to exist anymore, kwifimanager is gone, I'm having a heckuva time getting wireless.  help?
[03:55] <curiouscuz> trappist
[03:55] <curiouscuz> i had the same issue
[03:56] <curiouscuz> jaunty upgrade gets you better management for your network
[03:56] <curiouscuz> my ath0 is now wlan0
[03:56] <trappist> curiouscuz: cool, where do I find it
[03:56] <trappist> yes, I figured out the wlan0 thing
[03:56] <trappist> but can't bring it up
[03:56] <curiouscuz> and KNetworkManager is replaced with Network Manager widget for plasma
[03:56] <trappist> fixed up /etc/network/interfaces
[03:56] <trappist> oh a plasma widget... cuz I looked for network-manager etc.
[03:57] <trappist> lemme see if I can find that...
[04:00] <coleys> Okay is amarok my best choice for music ? It seems to crap out to much >_>
[04:00] <trappist> ok this is starting to look a lot better, but I click on my AP (in the plasma widget) and enter my wep key etc. and click ok... it doesn't connect, and if I open it again the info I just entered isn't there
[04:01] <curiouscuz> i've had good luck with amarok... Amarok 2 looks more stable too in Jaunty
[04:01] <afeijo> kaddi suggested jhead to rename my photos, what about videos?
[04:02] <curiouscuz> trappist as a temporary fix, KNetworkManager should still work if you havent uninstalled it
[04:02] <curiouscuz> just Alt+F2 and type KNetworkManager and hit enter
[04:02] <trappist> I'll try it...
[04:03] <trappist> I never explicitly uninstalled it, but it's not installed
[04:03] <curiouscuz> hmm...
[04:03] <trappist> my wlan0 just shows disconnected, and nothing happens if I click on it.  is that to be expected?
[04:04] <curiouscuz> does ath0 show in ifconfig ?
[04:04] <trappist> so I click on the AP and try to set it up, but when I click OK, nothing appears to happen (except the window disappears) and it doesn't connect and it doesn't keep the info
[04:04] <trappist> no
[04:04] <curiouscuz> ok...
[04:04] <trappist> well, let me double-check... been a long time since I had to run back and forth like this :)
[04:04] <curiouscuz> it took me a while too... what do you get with uname -a command?
[04:05] <curiouscuz> my upgrade did not add correct grub entry and i didnt realise until a week later that i was booting into an older kernel
[04:06] <trappist> 2.6.28-11, matches the newest kernel in /boot
[04:06] <trappist> and no, no ath0
[04:06] <curiouscuz> good.. thats the latest
[04:07] <trappist> do I need to modprobe a new driver for the atheros chipset?
[04:07] <trappist> or is it the ath5k thing now?
[04:07] <curiouscuz> try this... go to K -> System Settings -> Network Preferences
[04:07] <trappist> k
[04:07] <curiouscuz> there you should see Network Manager as the bottom most section
[04:08] <curiouscuz> go to Wireless tab
[04:08] <curiouscuz> and click Add buttom from the right hand corner
[04:08] <afeijo> who use jhead cmd??
[04:10] <trappist> ok my AP was listed there several times, probably from all the times I entered the wep info, but none of them had connect automatically checked.
[04:10] <trappist> it seems to stick if I check it there, but it still doesn't appear to try to connect, so I'm rebooting to see if that'll get it to connect when kde starts up.
[04:10] <curiouscuz> trappist: delete all those entries
[04:10] <trappist> yeah I did
[04:10] <curiouscuz> add one manually
[04:10] <trappist> or, all but one, then I added the details to that last one
[04:11] <curiouscuz> try fresh
[04:11] <trappist> blech.  ok if it's not working after the reboot I'll try that.
[04:11] <curiouscuz> ok...
[04:11] <trappist> but is there something for me to click (or type) to force it to attempt to connect, and show me an error message if it fails?
[04:11] <trappist> I'm used to using the command line for all this, but all that stuff is failing on me
[04:12] <curiouscuz> well, it all worked for me with out any issues
[04:12] <curiouscuz> you may try one thing as a last resort
[04:12] <curiouscuz> but for this make sure you are connected to the ethernet for internet
[04:12] <curiouscuz> go to K -> Applications -
[04:13] <curiouscuz> go to K -> Applications - System -> Hardware Drivers
[04:13] <trappist> heh if I could get this box on wired internet without an act of congress, I'd have it that way now for this chat
[04:13] <curiouscuz> and activete the wireless madwifi for atheros
[04:13] <curiouscuz> that may bring back ath0
[04:13] <curiouscuz> but its inactive for me
[04:15] <trappist> woo, reboot worked!  I'm on the offending box now.  <3 screen.
[04:16] <curiouscuz> cool...
[04:16] <curiouscuz> so is the widget working for you?
[04:16] <trappist> I guess so
[04:16] <curiouscuz> you can drag it and place it on the bottom panel with other icons
[04:17] <trappist> I think maybe I modprobed some drivers I shouldn't have, before getting on irc
[04:17] <trappist> oh, didn't realize that
[04:17] <curiouscuz> i have mine left of the clock
[04:18] <trappist> yeah I just put mine there
[04:18] <curiouscuz> nice... enjoy...
[04:19] <yeoj__> i just installed a new sound card and pulse audio is messed up, any tips?  amarok works, but firefox and skype do not
[04:19] <trappist> curiouscuz: anyway thanks a zillioion, that was scary for a second
[04:20] <curiouscuz> i know the feeling... my display messed up day before thats when i realised i was a kernel version behind
[04:21] <afeijo> can I use jhead to rename my photos, but the numeric sequencer to restart for every new day? it is increasing the number regardless the photo day
[04:21] <dwidmann> yeoj__: do you have your system settings->multimedia set up right?
[04:22] <yeoj__> dwidmann: i believe so, it worked with my old card
[04:22] <yeoj__> wehen i test 'plus audio in' multimedia settings
[04:22] <yeoj__> it gives like this static noise
[04:22] <dwidmann> yeoj__: best to double check ... if you're using pulseaudio, it needs to be on top of all of the lists (if it isn't, change it in one and apply it to all)
[04:22] <yeoj__> but the analog works fine
[04:24] <yeoj__> dwidmann: its wierd, sometimes if i mess around with it enough,i break the analog out one
[04:24] <yeoj__> it hink alsa is confused by my old card
[04:24] <davidjheinrich> hi all, in KDE4, I accidentally removed my task-bar panel...how do I get it back?
[04:24] <yeoj__> davidjheinrich: right click on deskto
[04:24] <yeoj__> davidjheinrich: unlock widgets,
[04:24] <dwidmann> yeoj__: that may be, do you see both in alsamixer?
[04:25] <yeoj__> davidjheinrich: then right click again, and select 'add panel'
[04:25] <davidjheinrich> that's just adding a blank panel on the top of the screen
[04:26] <yeoj__> dwidmann: no, just the new one
[04:26] <yeoj__> dwidmann: i pushed f5 in alsamixer to see all channels
[04:26] <yeoj__> dwidmann: there is no option in alsamixer that i see to see 'all devices' or 'other devices'
[04:26] <yeoj__> dmesg knows nothing about the old card (obviously)
[04:26] <yeoj__> and i removed everything from Hardware Drivers
[04:27] <yeoj__> (do i even need pluse for antying?  I really just need flash sound, and skype...)
[04:27] <davidjheinrich> how do  I get back my task bar?
[04:28] <dwidmann> yeoj__: pulse does software mixing and stuff like that IIRC ... so you want it if hardware mixing isn't working
[04:28] <dwidmann> yeoj__: ie: for playing more than one sound at a time
[04:28] <yeoj__> dwidmann: heh, maybe i'll reinstall
[04:29] <yeoj__> dwidmann: i swapped a bunch of ocmponents
[04:29] <Dragnslcr> I have a clean install of 9.04 with just the onboard sound, and I don't get anything from Flash, even though stuff like notifications and Amarok work fine
[04:30] <davidjheinrich> come on, doesn't anyone know how to get back to the DEFAULT KDE panel / task bar?
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> Most of the stuff I've seen on the forums seems to indicate that the Flash problem is because of pulseaudio
[04:30] <dwidmann> Dragonath: which browser(s)?
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> davidjheinrich- right-click your desktop and pick Add Panel
[04:31] <Dragnslcr> dwidmann- Firefox
[04:31] <Dragnslcr> Seems to be a pretty common problem
[04:31] <dwidmann> same problem in Konqueror, or no?
[04:31] <Dragnslcr> Haven't tried
[04:32] <davidjheinrich> no, that didn't work
[04:32] <Dragnslcr> dwidmann- seems to have the same problem, yeah
[04:32] <davidjheinrich> I had to goto Add Widgets > Task Manager
[04:33] <dwidmann> Dragonath: hmm, it works for me ... so I guess I probably won't be too much help with investigating that
[04:33] <astrozzzzz> what's the program that allows me to switch keyboard setups?
[04:33] <astrozzzzz> i need to launch it from within openbox
[04:33] <astrozzzzz> from the cli
[04:41] <jackfido> hi
[04:41] <silence> hi
[04:41] <silence> how are you
[04:49] <Level15> hi. i am tryi g to use ssh as socks proxy with ssh -D8080  servername, then set up firefox to use localhost:8080 as socks5 proxy server. But it does not work, whenever i try to load a page on firefox, it just shows an empty page. this used to work a while back. has anything changed?
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[05:01] <faileas> !ops
[05:01] <faileas> thanks ;)
[05:01] <nixternal> np
[05:04] <davidjheinrich> hi all...how do I make fonts appear larger by default? (I have 2048x1536, and many things are tiny)
[05:16] <AustLaw> what he said...
[05:19] <agoole> hey, I just crashed my computer (my printscreen buttong locks up, and I have to zap it to reboot) and now my login won't start up...
[05:19] <agoole> anyone have any idea ?
[05:19] <agoole> I'm using the TTy1 ,
[05:19] <agoole> but tty7 is stuck at that web globe icon on the loadup
[05:20] <CoBaY> frafra
[05:21] <agoole> I hate breaking machines at 1am..
[05:22] <agoole> anyone with any ideas ?
[05:23] <agoole> I just tried the kde failsafe login, and nothing, said that the xterminal emulator wasn't there...
[05:25] <agoole> anyone know how I can force scan my hard drive ?
[05:48] <subcool> yo- i have a question. It appears my comp is doinig a lot of traffic to some weird addresses
[05:49] <subcool> i was viewing my routers traffic, and idk y there is soo much traffic coming from my kubuntu laptop
[05:54] <p_quarles> subcool: without knowing what these "weird addresses" are, it would be difficult to say anything with any certainty
[05:57] <subcool> well i could list them- but, i was more curious about a TCP view program or something
[05:57] <subcool> track their time logs etc
[05:57] <snarkster> how do i go back to an earlier version of wine?
[06:01] <p_quarles> subcool: tcpdump, wireshark, etherape...
[06:05] <subcool> hhmm i thik dump will work
[06:05] <subcool> i know those others.. i was looking for like a background app.
[06:05] <subcool> thanks
[06:07] <subcool> guess its not on adept
[06:18] <chakersito> hi, anybody have the error “Could not start ksmserver. Check yout installation” in Kubuntu Jaunty with KDE4.2.3?
[06:19] <chakersito> it's happen everytime you run a sudo command
[06:34] <Swiftarrow> hey, im new to irc.. anyone know how to get to the apachefriends server on freenode? im using konversation :)
[06:36] <Swiftarrow> ?
[06:45] <jussi01> Swiftarrow: err, is it a channel? (startting with #)
[06:46] <Swiftarrow> yeah it is, dw, i figured it out.
[06:46] <jussi01> :)
[06:46] <Swiftarrow> to find out that no one is active on it anyways lol
[06:46] <Swiftarrow> just a bunch of afkers
[06:46] <Swiftarrow> :(
[06:56] <CrypTom> hi all, before upgrading to jaunty I was using OOo 3.0 from the ppa. Now, when I press the K-button and search for "oo" I get results with the jaunty icon and the same results again (writer, calc, ...) with the ppa icons although they do not appear in the menu editor or when browsing the applications menu
[06:58] <CrypTom> does anyone know how to get rid of these search result (or why they only appear in the search results and nowhere in the menu)?
[06:59] <ComunisTico> hi anyone could help me out.. i cant make my usb hard drive to work on jaunty
[07:17] <ComunisTico> exit
[07:17] <ComunisTico> #Q
[07:32] <toes22> Hi I'm using Jaunty and i had a crash in a previous session, everything is working fine now exept when I login i get all of the windows that where active in that session can anyone help thanks
[07:38] <Swiftarrow> who here uses xampp/lampp?
[07:42] <xanax``> hello
[07:42] <Swiftarrow> o/
[07:43] <xanax``> i am trying to update my ubuntu jaunty system with the kde4 repository but i get a gpg error. Where could I get it ?
[07:43] <Swiftarrow> cant find aanything on google about it :(
[07:52] <antares> hi everyone
[08:01] <toes22> Hi I'm using Jaunty and i had a crash in a previous session, everything is working fine now exept when I login i get all of the windows that where active in that session can anyone help thanks
[08:10] <xanax``> is there a repository I could add in synaptic to install extra themes ?
[08:11] <toes22> what theme are you after
[08:12] <xanax``> new wave and dust
[08:13] <xanax``> originally ... ubuntu themes
[08:14] <toes22> i cant find anything that matches that in the default apt repositorys
[08:15] <toes22> have you tried "aptitude search theme"
[08:15] <toes22> have a look at whats there
[08:15] <xanax``> they are on kde-look.org but i don't know how to install them
[08:15] <xanax``> ok, i will. thanks
[08:16] <toes22> and before you install it run "aptitude show the-theme-you-chose" so you can find out more about it
[08:17] <xanax``> ok
[08:17] <toes22> im looking for the default.session file for kde4 can anybody help
[08:31] <mmo|> Are there any known bluetooth problems in 9.04? I have tried connecting two phones now, and it doesnt see any of them...
[08:51] <benjamin_> hi
[08:52] <benjamin_> I installed kubuntu on a hp 2133 netbook. Works so far, but the fonts a ways to big.
[08:54] <benjamin_> Changeing them in "Systemeinstellungen" works not everywhere. For instance, in the login screen and konqueror contents are still oversized
[08:54] <benjamin_> any idea?
[08:54] <benjamin_> I made a dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[08:55] <benjamin_> buti it didn't had any effect
[08:57] <mmo|> Are there any known bluetooth problems in 9.04? I have tried connecting two phones now, and it doesnt see any of them... <----anyone??
[09:07] <ricardo_> hello
[09:23] <amelie> hi
[09:23] <amelie> have problems with flashplayer
[09:24] <amelie> try to maximized video
[09:24] <amelie> and the screen went blank
[09:24] <amelie> any ideas?
[09:24] <amelie> i'm using kubuntu
[09:35] <hunter> hello. somebody knows how to install apache server??
[09:35] <Guest24486> fsf
[09:37] <Guest24486> add
[09:37] <amelie> :(
[09:37] <Guest24486> can u see me??
[09:38] <amelie> yes
[09:38] <amelie> i see you gest 24486
[09:38] <amelie> but i can't help you
[09:38] <amelie> :(
[09:38] <amelie> sorry
[09:39] <Guest24486> oh, i get an error msg that i am disconnected. thx. anybody knows how to install server?
[09:39] <Guest24486> never mind.. but thx
[09:39] <amelie> try sudo apt-get install apache
[09:39] <amelie> maybe it helps
[09:40] <Guest24486> i have the tar here.
[09:40] <Guest24486> and sudo apt-get install apache is not working
[09:40] <amelie> ok
[09:40] <amelie> you have to uncompress the tar
[09:40] <amelie> into a directory
[09:41] <Guest24486> but how, is not working, or better, i am to dump..
[09:41] <amelie> and maybe it has a file that says ./configure or ./install or somthing like that
[09:41] <amelie> no no, tar is like a zip file
[09:41] <Guest24486> install, yes, but nothing. is not configure
[09:44] <amelie> guest24486, try this http://myy.haaga-helia.fi/~karte/install_apache_on_ubuntu.html
[09:45] <jhsd> h
[09:45] <Guest24486> thx
[09:49] <amelie> can't make use full screen video; flashplugin went blank, please help
[09:49] <amelie> i'm tire of looking for it on the web; haven't found any solution for this :(
[09:49] <Guest24486> look good. now. configureting
[09:49] <amelie> i tried severall times to uninstall and reinstall it.
[09:49] <amelie> it helps guest24486?
[09:50] <Guest24486> we will see. pls stay..
[09:50] <amelie> heheh good luck
[09:50] <amelie> sadly i can't stay
[09:50] <amelie> is 4:50 am
[09:50] <amelie> i was not able to sleep since 3:00 am
[09:51] <amelie> and now i have to be up to 5:30 am
[09:51] <amelie> to go to work...
[09:51] <Guest24486> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[09:51] <Guest24486> hmm
[09:51] <amelie> if anybody find the solution to my problem, please send me a message to obumbrata73@hotmail.com
[09:51] <amelie> thanks
[09:51] <amelie> it seems you have it install buddy...
[09:52] <amelie> bye!
[09:52] <Guest24486> i hope. what was your problem?
[09:52] <Guest24486> i see it now..
[10:22] <ocs> hi, which is the best graphical firewall in your opinione ?
[10:22] <ocs> hi, which is the best graphical firewall in your opinion ?
[10:33] <hw_> Is somewhere an editor for the "System Menu - Menu of important system places" ? I only know the file where I can add places by hand... =)
[10:37] <kaddi> hw_ where can you add places by hand? :D
[10:41] <hw_> kaddi: Have a look a ~/.kde/share/apps/systemview/
[10:42] <kaddi> thank you
[10:43] <victim> hw_: right click the K menu?
[10:44] <hw_> victim: Can't find any of the system places there...
[10:46] <kaddi> hw_ i have no systemview in my share/apps
[10:46] <kaddi> did you create that file/folder yuorself?
[10:51]  * eagles0513875 waves to kaddi to join OT
[10:54] <CQ> hi guys, i have a cifs mount that used to work but now doesn't under jaunty, any ideas? it almost seems that the kernel doesn't see cifs...
[10:55] <hw_> kaddi: No, just grep for strings of the system menu and added my own...
[11:04] <remoteCTR1> hi guys!
[11:04] <remoteCTR1> i urgently need support on jockey-kde and fglrx please
[11:05] <francisc1701> hi
[11:05] <francisc1701> how can I make konqueror open irc:// links with konversation instead of kopete? (kde 3)
[11:05] <remoteCTR1> jockey says fglrx is not activated, but if i press the activate button nothing happens, further fglrx seems to be running, as i get a message on the attempt to upgrade to jaunty that there is no driver available for jaunty and fglrx will be uninstalled
[11:06] <remoteCTR1> further i made the mistake to press one of the function keys, now my external monitor does not display anything anymore and i cannot seem to turn it on again
[11:07] <remoteCTR1> reboot no use...
[11:30] <podecoet> after upgrading to jaunty, my surround speakers aren't working. They show up in the mixer, but changing them has no effect - any ideas?
[11:30] <ambro825> Hi, how do I specify which device to install the bootloader to in kubuntu? Last time I tried it ruined the MBR of sda although I was installing to sdb.
[11:41] <ubuntu> anyone there?
[11:41] <Unksi> yep
[11:42] <larsaa> ambro825: under the advanced tab in system-preferences, you have a grub editor,
[11:43] <mkargar> hello
[11:43] <Helpmepls> hello????
[11:43] <ambro825> larsaa: where is that? I'm talking about the installer; I want to tell it where to install the bootloader, I don't have ubuntu installed yet
[11:44] <Helpmepls> at windows?
[11:44] <podecoet> dog... my amp was turned off :\
[11:44]  * podecoet slits wrists
[11:44] <Helpmepls> well, any major in scim?
[11:45] <mkargar> in the my kubuntu 9.04 64bit,Dragon player doesn't show Video File!it only showing audio of video file!
[11:45] <mkargar> what's this problem?phonon?
[11:45] <ambro825> larsaa: oh fount it, it's the 'advanced' button on the "Ready to install" screen; thanks
[11:45] <Helpmepls> maybe you did not install the full codec
[11:45] <Helpmepls> mkargar
 mkargar
[11:46] <mkargar> Helpmepls:i installed full Codecs!
[11:46] <Helpmepls> i see...
[11:46] <Helpmepls> i suggest you
[11:46] <Helpmepls> install kaffeine media player
[11:47] <Helpmepls> package name is called kaffeine
[11:47] <Helpmepls> after install
[11:47] <Helpmepls> run the programme
[11:47] <mkargar> i installed kaffeine and kmplayer!it's only play MPEG video file!Mp4 and flv and...is only Audio of video fil!doesn't show picture!
[11:48] <Helpmepls> when you want to play unsupported media in your system
[11:48] <Helpmepls> ah
[11:48] <Helpmepls> then... maybe u had set ur video render into unknown mode
[11:48] <Helpmepls> you know that?
[11:48] <mkargar> Helpmepls:hmm!
[11:49] <mkargar> Helpmepls:?
[11:49] <Helpmepls> video render... you know?
[11:50] <mkargar> Helpmepls:yes yes!how to set video render in dragon?
[11:50] <Helpmepls> sec
[11:50] <Helpmepls> oh sorry, i dk
[11:50] <francisc1701> mkargar: what kind of video file are you trying to play?
[11:51] <mkargar> francisc170:MP4!.FLV and....!
[11:51] <mkargar> francisc170:i think my priblem is Phonon!
[11:53] <mkargar> francisc170:my problem is on the app that using phonon as Multimedia Firmwork!
[11:54] <francisc1701> mkargar: try VLC media player. package name "vlc".
[11:54] <mkargar> francisc170:vlc too....:(
[11:55] <francisc1701> mkargar: you can't play it in vlc either?
[11:55] <mkargar> francisc170:no!
[11:56] <mkargar> francisc170:No suitable decoder module:
[11:56] <mkargar> VLC does not support the audio or video format "mp4a". Unfortunately there is
[11:57] <francisc1701> mkargar: I dunno, I can play mp4 files just fine both in vlc and kaffeine.
[11:58] <francisc1701> mkargar: I have kubuntu hardy, though, with kde3
[11:58] <francisc1701> mkargar: so no Phonon here
[11:58] <mkargar> francisc170:hmm!
[11:58] <mkargar> francisc170:what's using codecs?
[11:59] <jazman> any one with jaunty
[11:59] <francisc1701> mkargar: what do you mean?
[11:59] <jazman> makargar go to add remove and got to multimedia and geeed gstramer
[11:59] <jazman> or adpet
[11:59] <jazman> i ment
[12:00] <mkargar> jazman:I using xine-lib!
[12:00] <mkargar> francisc170:are you install only w32codecs/
[12:00] <mkargar> *?
[12:01] <francisc1701> mkargar: I don't know what codecs I installed or how, it's been a while
[12:01] <jazman> if i upgrade from intrepid to jaunty no loss of of data due to exy 4 disk systeem
[12:02] <jazman> i got g streamer ones
[12:17] <markit> hi, I've added the repositories to get OpenOffice 3.1, but it complains that openoffice.org-kde is missing (in fact, there is no 3.1 version). Any clue?
[12:29] <Sweet_Death> WHich one is more stable and has more application created -Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:29] <tackat> Sweet_Death: both share the same repo
[12:30] <Unksi> Sweet_Death: you can cross-use software from each
[12:30] <afeijo> so I have to set a vm machine with windows to use my new ipod touch?? :(
[12:30] <yaa_> you also can make rpm-based system from ubuntu)
[12:31] <remoteCTR1> whut??
[12:31] <remoteCTR1> that is comlete news to me
[12:31] <bazhang> yaa_, no you can't
[12:31] <remoteCTR1> hrhr
[12:31] <remoteCTR1> phunny guys alarm
[12:32] <Sweet_Death> what about stability and errors while working?
[12:32] <remoteCTR1> new verion is extremely cool
[12:32] <remoteCTR1> no errors over here so far on ~ 15 workstations and laptops
[12:34] <jazman> any probs with upgtrading to juant with the new ext 4 file system no loss of data ??
[12:35] <yaa_> bazhang: why not?
[12:35] <bazhang> yaa_, its a whole different system; ubuntu uses .deb , suse and others use .rpm
[12:36] <kaddi> where are the config files for k-menu in kde 4.2.3? The menu editor isn't working on my end
[12:38] <yaa_> bazhang: both use the same kernel)
[12:39] <bazhang> yaa_, that is not the issue.
[12:52] <Newbee> hello
[12:53] <Noisia> Can anybody help me with Konsole, please? Specifically, running Emacs22 in Konsole.
[12:57] <joedj> can anyone point me to a gutsy repo? http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ seems to have dropped it
[12:58] <bazhang> gutsy is eol joedj ; you should consider upgrading
[13:00] <joedj> i am indeed considering it, but right now i need to get work done :)
[13:00] <bazhang> its end-of-life, so no longer supported
[13:00] <beth> can someone help me out with a problem i've been having when i watch flash videos online its really choppy
[13:01] <beth> kubuntu 9.04
[13:01] <joedj> bazhang: care to suggest an upgrade path? straight to newest version?
[13:01] <bazhang> joedj, to 9.04?
[13:02] <bazhang> !upgrade | joedj
[13:02] <bazhang> joedj, there is no straight path for that one, just lots of intermediate ones
[13:04] <joedj> yeah, doh
[13:04] <Noisia> I read something the other day.
[13:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04#Kubuntu%208.04%20to%209.04%20Upgrade
[13:04] <Noisia> About a user who wished to downgrade from 9.04 to 8.10.
[13:04] <bazhang> joedj, first need to get to Hardy, then there is a straight shot
[13:05] <bazhang> joedj, see the link above
[13:05] <Noisia> A possible solution involved, in part, copying the home directory, and installing 9.04 pointing it to the copied home directory.
[13:05] <Noisia> Couldn't you also do this to go straight from Gusty to 9.04?
[13:05] <bazhang> Noisia, what you are describing will certainly lead to breakage
[13:06] <joedj> i'd quite like to do a fresh install, but this box has had years of configuration and behaves exactly like i want it to
[13:06] <Noisia> Ok, nevermind then I guess. :o
[13:06] <bazhang> 7.10 --> 8.04 --> 9.04
[13:06] <joedj> except for the part about not being able to use apt-get any more =P
[13:07] <ghoulsblade> hi all, just upgraded to jaunty and got that funky kde4 now, have been using 3 before, how can i move widgets in the bar at the bottom of the screen around ?
[13:09] <kaddi> ghoulsblade when klick on the yellow symbol on the right, where you can add more widgets, the present widgets become movable
[13:09] <markit> hi, I've added the repositories to get OpenOffice 3.1, but it complains that openoffice.org-kde is missing (in fact, there is no 3.1 version). Any clue?
[13:09] <ghoulsblade> aah thanks =)
[13:09] <kaddi> de nada
[13:09] <Noisia> I've been using a Mac with OSX to do some very basic programming using Emacs. In the Mac OS X Terminal, I can type "emacs <filename>" and Emacs opens the file in the current terminal window. To get Konsole to run Emacs in the current window I have to type "emacs -nw <filename>". Is there a way to avoid using the -nw suffix?
[13:11] <kaddi> Noisia you could always define an alias in.bashrc, but I don't know emacs, so maybe there is an easier way.
[13:13] <Noisia> Ok, thank you.
[13:16] <ghoulsblade> aww, konsole doesn't support fixed background images instead of transparency anymore ? pity =(
[13:18] <Noisia> Does anyone else have problems with Firefox 3.0.10 spontaneously hanging in Intrepid?
[13:20] <ghoulsblade> websites with flash maybe ?
[13:21] <Noisia> Only had Google docs open.
[13:27] <joedj> bazhang: thanks for the links
[13:30] <Briannn> Description: We can print to the HP printer on the west side of the building using the AppSocket/HP jetDirect protocol (seen below), but it is not convenient.  We would like to print to the RICOH printer that is nearby using the SAMBA interface.   SAMBA is supposed to make a Linux machine look like a Windows machine is talking to the printer.  As seen below, we can see the RICOH printer.  But we can not select it.   I tired to use my normal username (jst
[13:31] <bazhang> joedj, sure :)
[13:32] <afeijo> cant I use ipod touch as a pendrive?
[13:32] <Briannn> Could anyone help me with this problem?
[13:34] <bazhang> afeijo, you mean format it and use as usb storage device? to boot ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[13:34] <afeijo> bazhang: not to format, or it could probably damage the device.  Just to access it content and load files
[13:35] <bazhang> afeijo, not sure there; with the ultra low cost of usb flash keys it may not be worth the risk
[13:35] <afeijo> bazhang: I just didnt want to depend on vm windows to do that
[13:35] <bazhang> afeijo, if you mean to sync however, ie transfer songs
[13:36] <bazhang> afeijo, that should be possible; what version
[13:37] <afeijo> bazhang: ipod version?
[13:37] <afeijo> 1st I guess
[13:38] <bazhang> afeijo, what app have you tried to sync with? amarok? or something else
[13:38] <afeijo> amarok
[13:38] <afeijo> jaunty
[13:39] <bazhang> afeijo, I am not currently booted into kde or I could check, but under gnome/banshee my iPods all work (regular , mini, and one other)
[13:39] <afeijo> interesting, I could install gnome to use my ipod :)
[13:40] <afeijo> ops, regular and mini? yeah, those works, iphone and touch dont
[13:40] <bazhang> well no need to be that drastic
[13:40] <afeijo> I saw somewhere yesterday that the old ipods works on ubuntu, the adv. ones dont
[13:40] <bazhang> let me check the wiki
[13:40] <afeijo> apple is weird, they OS is linux, why dont they have a ubuntu version?
[13:41] <bazhang> iTunes lock down
[13:41] <bazhang> hang on a second while I check the wiki
[13:43] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[13:43] <bazhang> afeijo, ^^
[13:44] <afeijo> bazhang: I am doing that, with vmware, but that sux lol
[13:44] <afeijo> I'm updating my win2000 to sp4 to install itunes
[13:44] <afeijo> bazhang:  you called drastic to use gnome, what about a win2k vm ??? :D
[13:44] <bazhang> Click Applications → Sound and Video → Amarok
[13:44] <bazhang> Click Settings → Configure Amarok.
[13:45] <bazhang> afeijo, the bit after the vbox one about 1/4 of the way down
[13:46] <afeijo> wireless?
[13:46] <afeijo> I dont have wireless on my machine
[13:46] <afeijo> but I have a router in the LAN... hmmm
[13:46] <ghoulsblade> hmm, does the new konquerer in jaunty not support tree-view for folders anymore ?
[13:47] <afeijo> ghoulsblade: it does, I use it
[13:47] <bazhang> afeijo, not sure what you mean by wireless, this would work just by the usb connector, just need to correctly add and id the ipod touch correctly in amarok settings
[13:48] <ghoulsblade> afeijo, where do i find it ?  i only have icons,details,columns,radial and filesize in the view mode menu
[13:48] <afeijo> bazhang: ok I will read that page and follow it :) thanks
[13:49] <afeijo> ghoulsblade: oh, I use dolphin. check Settings menu, Dolphin Settings
[13:50] <ghoulsblade> ah excellent, thanks afeijo =)
[13:50] <afeijo> welcome
[14:04] <RootRay> hello
[14:04] <RootRay> linux is cool
[14:07] <curiouscuz> it sure is
[14:07] <curiouscuz> have you upgraded to Jaunty yet?
[14:09] <linux-hdtv> curiouscuz, hi, and you ?
[14:09] <curiouscuz> yep, Jaunty look good so far
[14:09] <curiouscuz> no issues yet
[14:09] <curiouscuz> atleast with stuff I use linux for with
[14:10] <linux-hdtv> great, i am now happy with it too, so far.
[14:10] <linux-hdtv> but i have problems with accented characters on ntfs partitions.
[14:11] <curiouscuz> oh... hmmm... I haven;t worked with accented characters on either files or folders yet...
[14:11] <linux-hdtv> i see.
[14:17] <Guest90676> Hello! I've installed the newest kubuntu. I have a dual screen. Everything works fine (resolution, monitor size, etc.). But I can set the position of the monitors (that I have two monitors with a large screen next to each other). I cannot find it in the utility. Where can I configure this...
[14:19] <RootRay> i have problem with jaunty saying Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:26] <ghoulsblade> hi all, just upgraded to jaunty, how can i make a hotkey for "show desktop" or so ? e.g. hiding/minimizing all windows so i can view&reach my desktop icons ?
[14:28] <kaddi> ghoulsblade do you have the "show the desktop" widget on your dekstop? If so right click it, select settings and enter the shortcut you want
[14:30] <ghoulsblade> kaddi,  ah ok, hmm, is there any way to make a hotkey without having that applet thingy anywhere ?
[14:33] <ghoulsblade> oh well, works for now, thanks =)
[14:33] <kaddi> ghoulsblade probably, but I don't know how. ;) Have a look at systemsettings->mouse&keyboard->global shortcuts->kwin ... maybe i'm just not seeing it ;)
[14:33] <ghoulsblade> yeah, it was there in kde3.5 or so, but i've been looking there for the past 10 minutes or so and haven't found it
[14:51] <ToreadorVampire> Quick question about a change-of-behaviour in Jaunty (that's different to Hardy, I basically skipped Intrepid) - when clicking a text document in Konqueror using Jaunty it always opens in a new Kate window ... how do I get it to re-cycle an existing instance of kate (like it did by default in Hardy)
[14:51] <ToreadorVampire> ?
[14:52] <gustavogg> abuelo
[14:56] <|eagles0513875|> !es | gustavogg
[14:58] <ubsafder> what is the best way to have checksums on a cd so i can check is any files get detoriated with time
[14:59] <bazhang> !md5
[15:00] <bazhang> if its already burned then a disk integrity check (for ubuntu live/alt install disks)
[15:00] <kaddi> i'm still getting funny symbols in titlebars and menues. Am I the only one with that problem? Any Idea what could be the problem? Snapshot: http://www.pic-upload.de/view-2089172/konv.png.html
[15:01] <bazhang> kaddi, nothing at that link
[15:01] <ubsafder> is there a file system that can do the check for me i am burning personal files
[15:02] <kaddi> bazhang it's just the titlebar: small, blue, says #kubuntu-offtopic*weirdsigns*Konversatio ... Link works for me :/
[15:02] <kaddi> does this one work: http://www2.pic-upload.de/upload/12.05.09/t9rf91.png
[15:03] <ubsafder> I am using k3b to burn my picture i want to add a checksum of all the files . can k3b generate and burn the checksum files
[15:03] <bazhang> kaddi, pretty hard to see but yeah
[15:03] <bazhang> ubsafder, you want to encrypt?
[15:04] <kaddi> well it's a titelbar... that's just the size they are on my display ;) I can try to make them bigger and take a new screenshot
[15:04] <kaddi> hang on
[15:04] <bazhang> kaddi, okay
[15:06] <Noisia> Can anyone help me install adobe flash player on Kubuntu 8.10?
[15:06] <RootRay> no flash for linux
[15:06] <jussi01> RootRay: please dont
[15:06] <jussi01> !flash | Noisia
[15:06] <Noisia> thank you
[15:07] <jussi01> no probs
[15:07] <RootRay> i thought adobe hasnt release one for linux
[15:07] <bazhang> ubsafder, dont see anything in the k3b man page about that
[15:07] <Noisia> I figured RootRay was messing around, had flash working fine on 8.10 before i switched to 9.04 and back again.
[15:07] <jussi01> RootRay: they have, and have had for a loong time
[15:08] <RootRay> still some issues with flash in firefox
[15:08] <bazhang> RootRay, not here; please specify.
[15:08] <RootRay> i dont know, thats what i heard anyway
[15:09] <bazhang> RootRay, well then best not to advise :)
[15:09] <jussi01> RootRay: please dont say rumpours or what you heard
[15:09] <RootRay> i only say what i know, which is not always true perhaps
[15:10] <bazhang> RootRay, then chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:10] <RootRay> anyway, i am actually running linux in windows
[15:10] <RootRay> as i prefer to use firefox in windows
[15:10] <RootRay> i dont have these issues about drivers and missing plugins
[15:13] <kaddi> bazhang: http://saved.im/mte0nzyycdln/konv1.png that's the konversation title in big... the funny signs should be a space
[15:14] <bazhang> kaddi, that is very odd
[15:14] <bazhang> kaddi, looks almost like someone's profile
[15:15] <kaddi> I was thinking a headphone or something :D
[15:15] <bazhang> kaddi, this is kubuntu jaunty?
[15:17] <kaddi> bazhang yes. (It's not limited to that symbol, I get others as well, some can be seen in this title: http://saved.im/mte0nzy0ndnj/ff.png )
[15:17] <bazhang> kaddi, do you have all the -de language packs installed?
[15:18] <kaddi> yes, I think so... I changed the system language to english a couple of days ago though. Had no impact on the titles
[15:18] <bazhang> kaddi, well then all the -en perhaps :)
[15:18] <kaddi> I don't get them on all titles either.. just sometimes, when jaunty feels like it... haven't figured out the pattern or the common denominator yet
[15:19] <sun_> nice to come here
[15:19] <kaddi> how do i search for all language packages?
[15:20] <Newbee> when will kde 4.2.3 be shiped as kubuntu jaunty updrade?
[15:21] <bazhang> Newbee, did you check the /topic in here?
[15:21] <Newbee> no
[15:21] <bazhang>  KDE 4.2.3 for 9.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 |
[15:22] <bazhang> Newbee, ^^
[15:23] <juan_> 90i0'o
[15:24] <kaddi> bazhang how do I find all relevant language packages? I have language-pack, language-pack-base,language-pack-gnome, language-pack-gnome-base, language-pack-kde, language-pack-kde-base installed for both de and en, + some support ones
[15:24] <juan_> spanis
[15:24] <Pici> !es | juan_
[15:24] <Newbee> bazhang: did they ship it? I cannot see it from therre
[15:24] <juan_> ok
[15:25] <powerlink> hi, is there any french irc for kubuntu
[15:25] <Pici> !fr | powerlink
[15:25] <bazhang> kaddi, did you switch the entire system to -en? if so, did the system not prompt you to install some new ones?
[15:25] <juan_> qui enes
[15:25] <bazhang> Newbee, did you check that link?
[15:25] <powerlink> thx
[15:25] <juan_> ok
[15:26] <bazhang> Newbee, its in a PPA
[15:26] <juan_> ok
[15:26] <Newbee> bazhang: i know that. but it is a bugfix release. why do they not simply ship it?
[15:27] <juan_> espanish
[15:27] <maniel> hi
[15:27] <juan_> hi
[15:27] <juan_> helo
[15:27] <bazhang> Newbee, because Ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[15:27] <kaddi> bazhang it was a spur of a moment thing. i went to systemsettings and selected system language in the regional settings. it's probable I installed packages, but I can't tell you which
[15:27] <maniel> are there any repos with kde 4.3 svn builds for jaunty?
[15:27] <bazhang> juan_, /join #ubuntu-es
[15:28] <juan_> ok
[15:28] <juan_> do you live
[15:28] <bazhang> juan_, this is Kubuntu support only, not chat
[15:28] <Newbee> bazhang: but i thougt they would ship bug fixis. I am not asking for a feature release like 4.3, but a bug-fix release. I would call that maintaince. But maybe I got something wrong
[15:29] <bazhang> Newbee, no idea there sorry. maybe backports at some point
[15:29] <kaddi> bazhang: I just checked german and english are installed as languages according to the regional settings
[15:29] <bazhang> kaddi, and it is off and on, ie not consistent?
[15:30] <Newbee> bazhang: I would prefere officially suported bug fixes over a ppa, that's why I asked.
[15:30] <podecoet> I completely freaked out and shut down my machine while it was deleting ~120GB of data (I thought it was deleting from the wrong drive), assuming I didn't break anything and it still boots, should I run fsck?
[15:32] <juan_> speaks more than two language
[15:34] <kaddi> bazhang: not all spaces are shown weirdly, but in some applications it's happening frequently.. eg I'd say that the menuentry "configure window behaviour" always looks the same and always is wrong (configure"l with a tilde"!Windo !Behaviour..)
[15:34] <kaddi> for the kde-applications
[15:34] <bazhang> kaddi, sounds like you found a bug :)
[15:34] <dennis_> hello I need some help
[15:35] <ToreadorVampire> Urk, x hung on me again ... not liking the nvidia-glx drivers that come in Jaunty :(
[15:35] <juan_> i are not chat
[15:35] <dennis_> Can I get some help with Kpackagekit?
[15:36] <juan_> not
[15:36] <kaddi> bazhang lol... and how do I report it? "The mystery bug of unnecessary signs present in almost all apps but not it some" I have no clue what is causing this.. Firefox also has these signs in the title-menue so it's not only kde-apps
[15:36] <ToreadorVampire> Anyway - back to my question: in Jaunty - how do I tell kate (or konqueror, dunno which app needs telling to behave differently) to re-use existing kate instances when opening new text file?  At the moment every time I open a new text file, a new kate instance spawns
[15:36] <juan_> i libe in dominican republip ok
[15:36] <LjL> !offtopic
[15:36] <bazhang> !ot > juan_
[15:37] <bazhang> whoops
[15:37] <bazhang> kaddi, /msg ubottu bugs for a link :)
[15:38] <juan_> ok
[15:39] <juan__> yes
[15:39] <juan__>  not entender ok plis
[15:39] <kaddi> bazhang I know. :) It's only that I have no information what so ever, I could give them to find or reproduce the bug. Thats what bothers me ;)
[15:39] <bazhang> juan__, do you have a Kubuntu support question?
[15:40] <bazhang> kaddi, just linking to that png would be a start, perhaps there are other bugs related to that :)
[15:43] <mogul218> hey guys what is the bash command to check my kernel version?
[15:43] <ToreadorVampire> uname -r
[15:43] <ToreadorVampire> (if probably what you want)
[15:43] <ToreadorVampire> mogul218> ^^
[15:44] <mogul218> tyvm toreadorvampire
[15:44] <ToreadorVampire> It's not really a "bash command" uname is an application, using the word "command" suggests it is a builtin
[15:44] <ToreadorVampire> Bash would work just fine if the uname application wasn't installed/available
[15:44] <ToreadorVampire> But that's just nitpicking :)
[15:45] <mogul218> my next question then is my version is still 2.6.28-11 and i have run sudo apt-get update and package manager and still i don't get a notification for 28-12
[15:45] <mogul218> what gives?
[15:47] <mogul218> is there some other way i need to go about updating the kernel?
[15:47] <bazhang> !info linux
[15:48] <bazhang> mogul218, that is the current one
[15:48] <igor__> hi, I unable to kill process ("killall -9 mplayer"), in System Activity processes are marked as Zombie and Disk Sleep
[15:48] <genii> mogul218: Perhaps: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:49] <juan__> yes
[15:49] <desu> igor__, it wont die until it receives either a timeout or some data from the device it's trying to read
[15:50] <mogul218> thank you genii
[15:50] <igor__> desu: Can I kill it somehow?
[15:50] <mogul218> thank you bazhang
[15:51] <desu> igor__, try killing the parent
[15:51] <desu> or not
[15:51] <desu> just let it be
[15:53] <igor__> it's been dying for about 10 minutes...
[16:01] <maniel> are there any repos with kde4 svn packages for jaunty?
[16:02] <ubsafder> who do i run sha1sum on all my files  so it opens recursevly the folder  ?
[16:03] <Riddell> maniel: project neon
[16:04] <Riddell> ubsafder: find . | xargs sha1sum
[16:05] <christophe> maniel:unfortunately the air theme and the network plasmoid are not in the neon ppa since they are in playground
[16:06] <christophe> Riddell: how are the 4.3 beta1 packages in jaunty backports or kubuntu-experimental coming along?
[16:07] <Riddell> christophe: slowly I'm afraid
[16:09] <christophe> Riddell: That's ok. Patience is a virtue ;-) Any idea on when the air theme and the network plasmoid  leave playground?
[16:10] <Riddell> I thought I read air was already in 4.3 but I could be wrong
[16:10] <Riddell> network manager, well whenever it works decently enough
[16:12] <christophe> Riddell: I'll go and check websvn. apachelogger said he couldn't include it in neon yet because it was still sitting in playground
[16:12] <vermin> hi
[16:12] <vermin> running 9.4
[16:13] <vermin> where is the athk5 driver?
[16:13] <vermin> atheros drivers
[16:13] <vermin> i have a wifi card in my laptop and it doesent work.
[16:13] <vermin> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[16:28] <user___> hi
[16:28] <user___> alguien habla espa;ol?.. necesito ayuda
[16:28] <kaddi> !es|user___
[16:29] <user___> i need help
[16:29] <user___> my computer is freezing
[16:30] <user___> i dont know why.. but the thing is that a cant even restart X
[16:31] <user___> whit debian, ubuntu, fedora.. I just press ctrl+alt+backspace.. but the keyboard also die
[16:32] <carpii> check the system logs
[16:32] <user___> checking
[16:34] <user___> everything normal in messages
[16:36] <user___> i guest I will wait for other error and check again
[16:36] <user___> thanks
[16:55] <klb007> alguien habla espanol??
[16:57] <klb007> somebody can say me, what is quassel IRC??
[16:57]  * klb007 somebody can say me, what is quassel IRC??
[16:58] <kaddi> it's an irc client. What programm are you using now to chat with us?
[16:59] <genii-around> klb007: Espanol - /join #ubuntu-es
[17:00] <klb007> thanks genii-around
[17:10] <afeijo> there is no ipod channel where I can ask about a problem I'm facing?
[17:11] <aftertaf> hello
[17:12] <aftertaf> looking for the kde nightly channel
[17:12] <PauloCesar> hi, my kubuntu is freezing and I dont know why..  I dont have any logs
[17:12] <PauloCesar> any help?
[17:13] <aftertaf> what version? what kernel ?
[17:13] <aftertaf> and what gfx card?
[17:13] <aftertaf> at what point freezing... random during use ?
[17:13] <PauloCesar> Linux user-laptop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:14] <aftertaf> ok. you on jaunty?
[17:14] <PauloCesar> kubuntu 9.04
[17:14] <PauloCesar> the lastest one
[17:15] <aftertaf> ok. ati graphics card ?
[17:15] <PauloCesar> my computer is dell.. i know is no nvidia, but not sure if ati
[17:15] <PauloCesar> i guess so
[17:17] <aftertaf> ok.
[17:17] <aftertaf> using compiz?
[17:17] <PauloCesar> is the default install.. that answer your question?
[17:18] <PauloCesar> or how can I know?
[17:19] <aftertaf> ok for default...
[17:19] <aftertaf> but you can type dpkg -l | grep compiz
[17:19] <aftertaf> to be sure
[17:19] <Newbee> PauloCesar: I know this problem. I hate it, but I don't have any idea what to do abuot it. I hope that KDE 4.2.3 may help. I'll try it.
[17:21] <Newbee> does anybody know how to make the network manager plasmoid save the vpn connections and not always loose them after saving?
[17:21] <aftertaf> aha.
[17:21] <aftertaf> you're right
[17:21] <aftertaf> using latest kde packages helps on my laptop too.
[17:22] <PauloCesar_> aftertaf: my pc died again.. sorry
[17:22] <aftertaf> lol
[17:22] <aftertaf> sorry :)
[17:22] <Guest88498> i installed a screensaver and its not showing up in screensavers
[17:22] <PauloCesar_> it died while i was trying open firefox :S
[17:22] <aftertaf> ok. can you pastebin your /etc.apt/sources.list ?
[17:23] <PauloCesar_> some told my about pastebin.. is a website?
[17:23] <PauloCesar_> *someone
[17:23] <aftertaf> !paste
[17:24] <aftertaf> ill paste my sources list too.
[17:24] <Guest88498> there is nothing in the file
[17:24] <Guest88498> i installed a screensaver and its not showing up in screensavers
[17:24] <PauloCesar_> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/170731/
[17:25] <aftertaf> :)
[17:26] <PauloCesar_> aftertaf: for some reason this problems started yesterday when I configure my wireless.. what I did is replace it whit wired conection
[17:26] <PauloCesar_> lest see what happen.. maybe thats the problem
[17:26] <aftertaf> maybe
[17:26] <aftertaf> http://ftp.tecnoera.com/ubuntu/ is an official mirror ?
[17:27] <PauloCesar_> yes.. official
[17:27] <PauloCesar_> and very good for me :)
[17:27] <PauloCesar_> about 700KBs :)
[17:28] <aftertaf> nice :)
[17:28] <aftertaf> i have these ones....
[17:28] <aftertaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/170739/
[17:28] <aftertaf> i removed some specific ones
[17:28] <aftertaf> see which repositories you are 'missing' and do an update
[17:29] <aftertaf> what is your version of kde 4.2 ?
[17:29] <aftertaf> 4.2.1/ 4.2.2?
[17:29] <PauloCesar_> Version 4.2.2
[17:29] <aftertaf> ok.
[17:29] <aftertaf> im on 4.2.3 and it seems ok.
[17:29] <aftertaf> you have knetwork-applet installed or the new plasmoid ?
[17:30] <PauloCesar_> i was using ubuntu, fedora, debian.. and it seems ok too
[17:30] <PauloCesar_> :(
[17:30] <PauloCesar_> not sure.. I am using the default widget called Network Manager
[17:31] <PauloCesar_> the logo looks like an N an M together
[17:31] <PauloCesar_> that answer your question?
[17:32] <PauloCesar_> humm... other question.. how to upgrade to KDE 4.2.3?
[17:32] <PauloCesar_> (i am new in kubuntu)  Adept?
[17:33] <aftertaf> new plasmoid :)
[17:33] <aftertaf> i recommend you install synaptic instead.
[17:33] <aftertaf> easier to get used to (its gtk, but i dont mind :) )
[17:33] <PauloCesar_> i got it installed
[17:34] <kaddi_> how can i create a new user account on jaunty?
[17:35] <ToreadorVampire> Gots to say that I really don't like nm ... as a thought, it is possible to roll back to knetworkmanager in Jaunty?
[17:35] <aftertaf> ok. PauloCesar_... you can run it and edit your sources list easily that way...
[17:35] <aftertaf> add the missing ones from my list and update, then see if there are upgrades :)
[17:35] <aftertaf> you can still reinstall it and lauch from the konsole
[17:37] <wiremonk> ToreadorVampire: You can apt-get install knetworkmanager
[17:37] <PauloCesar_> aftertaf: gues what.. is not the wireless
[17:37] <wiremonk> which works fine
[17:37] <aftertaf> hehe
[17:37] <aftertaf> PauloCesar_: keep at it... reboot and you'll get there in the end
[17:38] <ToreadorVampire> wiremonk> Oh, that's nice - I might give that a try, network manager seems to have some serious issues :(
[17:38] <aftertaf> also.... if no 4.2.3 updates, try these :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/170748
[17:38] <ToreadorVampire> Some of them I admit are not bugs but missing features that knetworkmanager had, and that I relied on
[17:39] <aftertaf> or...........
[17:39] <wiremonk> ToreadorVampire> I agree, though it seems to be mostly fixed in the PPAs so hopefully the fixes will be in main updates soon
[17:39] <aftertaf> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[17:39] <ToreadorVampire> And then there is the "maybe your wireless connection profile will get saved or maybe it won't" lottery ... that's gotta be a bug
[17:39] <wiremonk> It is ;)
[17:39] <PauloCesar_> no I not even try to upgrade yet.. I will know
[17:40] <PauloCesar_> I'll be back in a few.. thanks for your help
[17:40] <aftertaf> try that...
[17:40] <aftertaf> and yeah it is buggy
[17:40] <aftertaf> only keeps network settingd from intrepid
[17:40] <aftertaf> and then not always :)
[17:40] <wiremonk> :)
[17:40] <ToreadorVampire> Well, I pretty much skipped intrepid
[17:41] <ToreadorVampire> I booted from a liveCD once or twice, tried some stuff and didn't bother going very far with it
[17:41] <ToreadorVampire> I've got Jaunty booting off a USB drive with my Hardy install still on my HDDs
[17:43] <mth`MAW> Hi there,
[17:44] <mth`MAW> Is it possible to configure dolphin like sending mails from the context-menu?!
[17:48] <SteBo> Are KDE 4.3 Beta 1 packages in the work? ^^
[17:48] <Unksi> hope so, my fingers are itching :p
[17:51] <ya9i> hi
[17:51] <enzo> sera
[17:52] <ya9i> =))
[18:02] <anass> I can't compile files with the new kdevelop doas anyone have the  same problem
[18:07] <jason_froebe> anass - you may want to ask on #kdevelop
[18:21] <[ifroog]> Hello, Evolution says "Database disk image is malformed", What is wrong?
[18:23] <FuriousGeorge> hey all i deleted some partitions and moved home and /.  i then restored them from backup, edited my mdadm.conf and fstab, edited lilo.conf, rebuilt the initrd, and yet my boot is still hosed
[18:23] <FuriousGeorge> i get kicked out to an initramfs prompt
[18:24] <FuriousGeorge> so  just chrooted in, and im gonna go over my lilo settings, and rebuild my initrd, but i dont think either of those are the issue
[18:25] <alexbobp> how can I adjust monitor gamma and such without nvidia-settings?
[18:28] <robin____> alexbobp:system settings->display->gamma
[18:30] <alexbobp> robin____: well that has gamma, but it doesn't have all the other stuff I need, like contrast and such
[18:30] <alexbobp> I want all the stuff nvidia-settings let me configure
[18:31] <FuriousGeorge> oh, i think i know what happened.  i need to make a few device nodes... like for dev/console
[18:31] <robin____> alexbobp: I don't know if that's possible
[18:49] <david_hh> plopp
[18:51] <tdn> After installing Kubuntu 9.04, suspend to RAM does not work. This has already caused major data loss for me two times :( How do I fix this?
[18:51] <F|nger> Hi all
[18:52] <F|nger> I installed kubuntu for someone with kde 3,he used the upgrade button to upgrade to the latest version, but this replaced hist kde with kde4 and an unworkable desktop. Is there a good way to downgrade or roll back?
[19:11] <Jahman> hi
[19:15] <roland_> e
[19:16] <Jahman> i had reinstalled ubuntu 9.04 with a home on a separate partition. My ssh key is gone. :( anyone esle has the same problem?
[19:18] <ralmar> Hey guys, does anyone know the terminal commands to flush dns and do everything necessary to get a new ip from my isp which assigns dynamic ips? Thanks
[19:19] <Peace-> ralmar: restart the modem
[19:20] <smurfslover> hi
[19:20] <smurfslover> kpackagekit is confusing
[19:21] <smurfslover> when searching for firefox i get 3 different versions to choose from
[19:21] <smurfslover> how is a noob supposed to be able to choose his own version
[19:22] <akshayshah> smurfslover, which versions are you seeing?
[19:22] <smurfslover> 3.0 and 3.5
[19:22] <smurfslover> think ifound the cause
[19:22] <akshayshah> You should see a few versions
[19:22] <SteBo> smurfslover: 3.5 is a beta version
[19:23] <smurfslover> looks like someone activated unstable repo on this laptop
[19:23] <smurfslover> my fault
[19:23] <akshayshah> 3.0 is the current release version, 3.5 is a beta release
[19:23] <akshayshah> nope, 3.5 is in the standard repos
[19:23] <SteBo> akshayshah: nevertheless it's a beta version
[19:23] <akshayshah> install them both - I use 3.5 every day, and it handles javascript much faster
[19:24] <smurfslover> i don't want both
[19:24] <SteBo> smurfslover: 3.0 ist the stable release
[19:24] <smurfslover> my brother in law gets confused when i do that and it's his laptop :)
[19:24] <smurfslover> thx
[19:24] <akshayshah> It certainly is; at least on my computer, though, 3.0 handles javascript much, much slower
[19:24] <SteBo> 3.5 won't get security fixes etc.
[19:24] <akshayshah> It does if you enable the daily build PPA, but that's a whole other discussion
[19:25] <SteBo> akshayshah: still it's not a final release and isn't as well supported and stable.
[19:25] <smurfslover> gonna try the 3.5 and see if it's stable
[19:25] <smurfslover> thx for the help
[19:25] <SteBo> though decision for a noob...
[19:25] <smurfslover> btw kpackagekit is much better than adept
[19:26] <SteBo> tough even
[19:26] <akshayshah> SteBo: I suppose. It's been stable enough for me, and I appreciate the additional performance.  I can understand wanting more stability though.
[19:26] <akshayshah> smurfslover: no problem, hope it all works out well
[19:26] <smurfslover> gonna install kubuntu on my desktop
[19:26] <smurfslover> my opensuse just died over updates
[19:27] <SteBo> most add-ons or not compatible with 3.5
[19:27] <smurfslover> he doesn't use addons
[19:27] <SteBo> ok
[19:27] <smurfslover> and i prefer arora if it's compiled against qt 4.5
[19:28] <SteBo> smurfslover: arora isn't quite there yet IMHO.
[19:29] <smurfslover> not yet but it's fast and stable even with flash
[19:29] <smurfslover> but it doesn't remember passwords yet
[19:30] <SteBo> yes, I may use it in the future, when the feature set is complete
[19:32] <smurfslover> kubuntu runs fine on this old dell inspiron 510m
[19:35] <trappist> anybody tried ubuntuone beta with kubuntu"?
[19:45] <userid007> LOAD"*",8,1
[19:46] <SteBo> LOADING...
[19:46] <SteBo> READY.
[19:46] <userid007> RUN
[19:46] <SteBo> Hello World!
[19:46] <Pici> userid007: What are you doing?
[19:46] <robin0800> userid007: Cerash
[19:47] <Pici> userid007: This is a support channel, please remove your bot(s) from here.
[19:48] <SteBo> We're just emulating a C= 64
[19:48] <Pici> And this is still a support channel, albeit somewhat not busy.  #kubuntu-offtopic exists if you want to just hang out and talk.
[19:51] <SteBo> whatever
[19:52] <solifugus> Can anyone today tell me how to make my kde4 task bar be normally sized (vertically).. it's been reduced for weeks now.. with nobody able to tell me how to fix it.
[19:53] <solifugus> and I cannot read the damn time on it
[19:53] <solifugus> There's a big empty space under the taskbar at the bottom of the screen
[19:53] <solifugus> The far right icon, however, does reach the whole vertical distance
[20:00] <tzanger> good afternoon
[20:00] <tzanger> is there no way to archive a web page anymore in konqueror??
[20:01] <FuriousGeorge> hey all
[20:01] <FuriousGeorge> there's a hitch in my boot when fsck fails.  it seems it cant resolve the UUIDs for certain partitions
[20:02] <FuriousGeorge> these are md partitions, and for some reason mdadm --examine --scan returns different uuids than i get in dev when i assemble thm
[20:02] <FuriousGeorge> is that normal?
[20:05] <vermin> hi
[20:05] <robin____> solifugus:make sure you have your widgets unlocked,  click the half-round-shaped-button, on the right off the panel (the task bar), click on the "hight"  button and drag around
[20:07] <tekteen> I just upgraded to 9.04. Does anyone know how to get the power manager back?
[20:08] <tzanger> is there any way to archive a website like in the KDE 3.x konqueror?
[20:09] <robin____> tekteen,Do you mean:system settings->advanced->power managment
[20:10] <tekteen> robin____, it is nolonger in the corner of my screen
[20:10] <tekteen> did they upgrade to a new power manager?
[20:12] <robin____> not sure, never used it
[20:12] <robin____> tzanger: do you mean saving a page?
[20:12] <kaddi> tekteen I think they switched yes. The new one is called battery monitor
[20:13] <kaddi> tekteen IIRC the old one is called guidance-power-manager and needs to be installed seperately
[20:14] <tekteen> kaddi, I knew what the old one was called, but I could not find it
[20:14] <tzanger> robin____: no, I mean archiving a page (all images, frames, etc. in a "war" (web archive) file
[20:15] <kaddi> tekteen how was yours called then?
[20:15] <tekteen> kaddi, I knew where to find the old power manager
[20:15] <tekteen> I mean guidance
[20:16] <tekteen> kaddi, it use to be at /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance-powermanager/guidance-power-manager.py
[20:18] <kaddi> tekteen: Yes, what I was trying to say, is, that I think that the guidance-power-manager was replaced with a new power manger called "batterie manitor" and uninstalled during the upgrade. Thus you need to install it again if you want to use it. try "apt-cache policy guidance-power-manager" in your shell to see whether it is installed or not
[20:18] <solifugus> robin____: I tried height and the task bar stretches but the k-button and other stuff stays shrunk... really horizontally thin..
[20:18] <solifugus> robin____: I tried height and the task bar stretches but the k-button and other stuff stays shrunk... really horizontally thin..
[20:19] <solifugus> robin____: then I clicked on the unlock icon and now the half-circle button on the right of the task bar has dissappeared
[20:19] <solifugus> wow.. I am totally screwed..
[20:20] <solifugus> oh.. got it back!! right clicked on task bar and hit unlock widgets
[20:21] <solifugus> more settings and maximize panel now lets me actually read the first digit of the time, now..
[20:23] <solifugus> robin____: I think this is just an icon size issue now.. don't know where to fix that, though.. yet
[20:24] <Pconfig> hm, in Kontact when i select day or week view i just see a gray space
[20:24] <Pconfig> when i select month view
[20:24] <Pconfig> it seems ok
[20:24] <robin____> Pconfig: that's proberbly because there's nothing in that day/weel
[20:25] <robin____> solifugus:which icons are displayed incorrect?
[20:25] <Pconfig> robin_____ there is
[20:25] <Pconfig> but the days don't show up bold either
[20:25] <solifugus> robin____: everything in the task bar except for the half-circle one on the far right..
[20:26] <robin____> solifugus: so basicly the only thing that gotr scaled was the half-circle?
[20:27] <solifugus> robin____: yes
[20:28] <solifugus> it's been like this for weeks..  I have no idea what happened, except it's probably my stupid scratchpad.. I sure wish there were some way to disable the damn thing...
[20:28] <solifugus> scratch pads on laptops cause so much grief to me..
[20:28] <solifugus> they are evil
[20:28] <robin____> solifugus:try adding a new widget at see if that one is scaled proberbly
[20:30] <solifugus> robin____: I added a calculator widget and it is also thin..
[20:35] <robin____> solifugus: try removing the panel, readd it and add the widgets
[20:37] <Guest38864> hi
[20:37] <LOL> no
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[20:37] <Guest70156> ef
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[20:37] <Guest70156> :37] <LOL> no
[20:37] <Guest70156> [21:37] <LOL> no
[20:37] <tekteen> !op
[20:37] <Guest70156> [21:37] <LOL> no
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[20:38] <solifugus> robin____: I'll try that in a bit.. other business just came up.. I am a bit better off than I was already.. thanks.
[20:38] <xjjk> anyone use the inconsolata font with konsole and notice weird spacing issues?
[20:39] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Anyone know how to add a network printere in Kubuntu?
[20:39] <CoJaBo-Aztec> 8.04
[20:41] <robin____> CoJaBo-Aztec: is the printer connected to a windows machine?
[20:42] <desu> My Amarok on Jaunty randomly skips a couple of songs. It does _try_ to play them (ie. it shows up on the OSD), but they're skipped as soon as they start. If I manually select and play them, they play fine. Any idea why this is happening?
[20:42] <CoJaBo-Aztec> robin____: Yes
[20:44] <robin____> CoJaBo-Aztec:In konqueror: type "smb:" in the url bar and sellect a workgroup
[20:47] <CoJaBo-Aztec> robin____: Anything else I need to do? I tried browsing the shares of the computer that has the printer, but nothing is listed.
[20:49] <fossil> hey guys
[20:49] <robin____> CoJaBo-Aztec: sorry I can't help you any further, I've only used samba once for file sharing, never for printers
[20:49] <fossil> i got one last question before i go too install my new linux install
[20:50] <robin____> hi fossil
[20:50] <fossil> hi
[20:50] <fossil> so how do i back up all my data on wubi or would it be better just to install a fresh os
[20:51] <fossil> by back up i mean like apps and docs
[20:52] <ikonia> fossil: my personal stance is a clean install would work much better
[20:52] <fossil> cause im gonna dule partition my laptop now and it would be great not to search for my software again
[20:52] <fossil> yea
[20:52] <ikonia> fossil: transfering installs from wubi to a "real" install seems to cause nothing but issue
[20:52] <fossil> yea
[20:52] <fossil> id think so
[20:52] <fossil> thx
[20:52] <CoJaBo-Aztec> robin____: Is there any way to manage the printers? I would assume there should be something in system settings, but its not there..
[20:53] <fossil> ill just get my dat files for my flash cards and stuff
[20:54] <fossil> CojaBo-Aztec: whats wrong?
[20:54] <CoJaBo-Aztec> fossil: Trying to figure out how to add a printer.
[20:54] <fossil> hmmm lol
[20:54] <fossil> u run kubuntu
[20:55] <fossil> correct i assume
[20:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Yes
[20:55] <fossil> have you tried printer confg
[20:56] <fossil> its in the menu
[20:56] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Where is that?
[20:56] <CoJaBo-Aztec> In the menu is listed "Printing" and "Printer Toolbox"
[20:57] <fossil> click the K then applications and then system
[20:57] <fossil> you know your admin pass key right
[20:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Yes. This is running KDE 4.1.2 tho
[20:58] <fossil> oh then i havent a clue
[20:58] <fossil> have you serched the forums
[20:58] <fossil> how to add a printer in kde 4.1.2
[20:59] <fossil> i would say its under printer toolbox
[20:59] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Its the KDE4 release of 8.04, so maybe printingg was one of those features they left out? o_O
[20:59] <fossil> no i doubt it
[21:00] <fossil> theres probubly a command to enter in a new printer
[21:00] <fossil> oh
[21:00] <tjingboem> is there a way to change the resoltion of the screen during install?
[21:00] <fossil> did you check your menu settings
[21:01] <tjingboem> resolution
[21:01] <CoJaBo-Aztec> fossil: I found a link to a CUPS web interface, that might be it..
[21:01] <fossil> cups
[21:01] <fossil> i think thats right
[21:01] <fossil> or else its network printing
[21:02] <fossil> (tj) hold on
[21:02] <fossil> but idk for sure
[21:03] <fossil> how long yall been using linux
[21:03] <fossil> COJABO cups is for sharing a printer
[21:03] <tjingboem> is there a way to select my videocard during install of 9.04?
[21:03] <fossil> i got the linux bible
[21:04] <CoJaBo-Aztec> fossil: it has an option to add a printer, but it needs the URI which I don't know anyway...
[21:04] <robin____> tjingboem: no need to, all hardware (except some really excotic ones) are auto detected
[21:05] <tjingboem> i installed yesterday but xorg.conf was nearly empty
[21:05] <fossil> (TJ) it should use a default screen setting that is used until it reaches its hardware check
[21:05] <tjingboem> had a resolution of 800x600
[21:05] <fossil> i had that problem is it a laptop
[21:06] <fossil> or just a standard pc
[21:06] <robin____> tjingboem: that's because in the new xorg, almost everything is auto configured, so there's barely any need for a xorg.conf
[21:06] <tjingboem> what can i do when that fails?
[21:06] <fossil> yea but i had to change a value to make my ibm r30 work in 1000 1200
[21:06] <robin____> tjingboem: what has failed?
[21:06] <SilentSound> hey is genii around?
[21:07] <Tecumseh> hi guys
[21:07] <fossil> whn what fails
[21:07] <Tecumseh> does anyone know how to add localized weather dataengine in kubuntu jaunty?
[21:07] <tjingboem> detection of everything: mouse, monitor, screen
[21:07] <fossil> LOL no
[21:07] <fossil> sry
[21:08] <fossil> i havent used kde in ever so
[21:08] <robin____> tjingboem: you mean they don't work or they don't show up (correctly) in xorg.conf?
[21:08] <SilentSound> could adding ram wipe my os?
[21:08] <fossil> NO not at all
[21:08] <fossil> well
[21:08] <fossil> no
[21:08] <slhk> CoJaBo-Aztec: the URI should be smb://computer-name/printer-name you can get the names from the windows machine
[21:08] <tjingboem>  the mouse works, robin___
[21:08] <Tecumseh> SilentSound: no it should not
[21:08] <fossil> yea
[21:09] <fossil> theres no way
[21:09] <SilentSound> arright
[21:09] <tjingboem> i have 800x600 resolution
[21:09] <fossil> unless you shock your pc with static
[21:09] <fossil> then your pc may not work
[21:09] <tjingboem> and a standard monitor it says
[21:09] <fossil> lol
[21:09] <fossil> yea
[21:09] <fossil> ik
[21:09] <robin____> tjingboem: you have any non-free drivers installed
[21:09] <Tecumseh> does anyone know how to add localized weather dataengine in kubuntu jaunty?
[21:10] <tjingboem> i'm installing from scratch now
[21:10] <tjingboem> well, not scratch but overwriting suse
[21:12] <genii> SilentSound: I am around, but right now back and forth from work, so much lag.
[21:12] <SilentSound> ahha! ~success ^_^ i now have minimum ram to install Kubuntu Intrepid
[21:12] <genii> SilentSound: Good :)
[21:12] <fossil> ok
[21:12] <fossil> ?
[21:13] <shock_day13> hey everyone
[21:13] <SilentSound> genii: You where helping me lastnight, so i thought you'd also find it funny that i opened up a currently disfunc comp and found to shiny new sticks of 128mb ram, matching and identical xD
[21:13] <jpedroza> I have been trying to get my Verizon Wireless broadband access USB modem to work with the new Network Manager plasmoid, to no avail. I have added a connection and it shows up in the list of possible connections, but it never connects. It was working fine under knetworkmanager, of course. Is anyone else using the UM150 under 9.04?
[21:13] <genii> SilentSound: So likely it was a case of non-matched sticks in this case
[21:14] <SilentSound> genii: ya, i think so, because pulling one or the other out fixed the problem
[21:14] <jpedroza> On a related note, is there any way to make the popup window larger in the Network Manager Plasmoid? It cuts off the lower half of my network connection.
[21:14] <SilentSound> genii: except now im getting sporadic graphical problems... but only with blackscreenm so i dont think its that much of a problem
[21:15] <genii> SilentSound: Might want to run memtest on the new ram to make sure it's ok
[21:15] <SilentSound> wow, this thing is running great now... so sad all i added was 128 mb ram
[21:15] <SilentSound> genii: whats a memtest?
[21:16] <genii> SilentSound: memtest is a small utility which does exhaustive testing of your computer memory. On the (k)ubuntu livecd there should be an option to boot to it
[21:16] <SilentSound> oops, im in install wizard... should i restart?
[21:17] <genii> SilentSound: Probably not at this stage. You can run the memtest anytime after as well. It takes quite a while to get some kind of reliable result from it, usually 12 hours or more is good.
[21:18] <SilentSound> genii: then im probably going to run while im asleep/at school
[21:19] <genii> SilentSound: Good plan.
[21:20] <SilentSound> genii: this question might cause some groaning ^^: is there a process to adding hardrives? or can i just plug it in and do slave/master in bios and go
[21:22] <genii> SilentSound: Ideally you want to install on whatever the primary IDE(or sata, etc) and master. Then afterwards if you add a drive it won't mess up boot order.
[21:23] <genii> SilentSound: First drive usually will be seen as sda, then sdb sdc and so on. Sometimes the cd/dvd will also occupy one of these of course.
[21:24] <SilentSound> genii: I believe I have a IDE 8.5gb HD on my secondary ide, because my computer was defaulted to boot from CD before harddrive. Anyways, i just add a drive to next ide or  do slave/master thing?
[21:25] <genii> SilentSound: Add them as you normally would.
[21:26] <genii> SilentSound: I would recommend to specify on pins however one as master one as slave if 2 on same cabling (ide). Sometimes if set to cable-select and one fails it messes up where it thinks the drives are again, etc
[21:29] <ramblerouser> does anyone know anything about installing ati drivers onto jaunty?
[21:29] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ramblerouser: Its realy buggy.
[21:29] <ramblerouser> yeah, it keeps messing me up badly
[21:29] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ramblerouser: Make sure to install all updates before the drivers, that seemed to help on mine.
[21:29] <ramblerouser> i'm using the radeon mobility x1400, the support wiki says x300-x2100 are incompatible atm
[21:30] <ramblerouser> should i be using open source drivers, or the ati catalyst?
[21:30] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ramblerouser: If it lists proprietary drivers as being available, you would want to use them.
[21:30] <ramblerouser> doesn't list anything at all
[21:31] <ramblerouser> none restricted, either
[21:31] <ramblerouser> just an empty list
[21:31] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Did you install all the software updates?
[21:31] <ramblerouser> i just did a fresh install today, i believe i did
[21:31] <ramblerouser> the window that pops up on first login?
[21:32] <ramblerouser> or are there more that i need to be looking up?
[21:32] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ramblerouser: I think you start KPackagaKit (which is also terribly buggy) then click the updates tab.
[21:33] <ramblerouser> kpackage or kpackagekit?
[21:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Should be kpackagekit
[21:33] <ramblerouser> is that an either/or/both kind of situation?
[21:33] <ramblerouser> so ignore the other?
[21:36] <MrBallZ> hi
[21:36] <ramblerouser> i see some bug fixes under software updates
[21:37] <MrBallZ> I've been having a problem for the last week or so , It seems I updated xorg, and now it uses 49% of cpu and its running super slow, and Plasma keeps crashing .... anyone with this probl ?
[21:37] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ramblerouser: There should be a button to install all updates.
[21:37] <ramblerouser> when you updated xorg, were you installing a graphics card driver?
[21:39] <ramblerouser> CoJaBo-Aztec: I think I got all the updates
[21:39] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ramblerouser: Reboot and see if that fixes the driver installer.
[21:40] <ramblerouser> okay
[21:42] <ramblerouser> still not on the list
[21:44] <ramblerouser> i have the latest catalyst driver, but every time i put it in it stops loading graphics when i reboot, and i just get a random image when I start up that won't load anything else
[21:45] <MrBallZ> ramblerouser: I upgraded to Jaunty, configured ATI OSS drivers, and everything was ok, for like 2 weeks, and after some normal Updates, Xorg now is using lots of CPU and composite is not working ....
[21:45] <khear> will KDE 4.2.3 eventually be in jaunty updates or backports, or will it only be available from the separate PPA?
[21:46] <ramblerouser> should I downgrade to 8?
[21:47] <ramblerouser> would i be able to install my graphics driver easier on that? it seems like it's going to be just about impossible at this time
[21:48] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ramblerouser: Did it work OK on 8?
[21:50] <PoisonSerpent> Hey, all.
[21:53] <Sonnentae> I have two harddisks in my box and gparted only detects sda, but sdb is mounted though with I/O errors. How can I remedy my second disk if gparted won't play ball?
[21:56] <_Whipper> Sonnentae: use some other partitioner,,
[21:57] <Sonnentae> Whipper: Any suggestions ?
[21:58] <_Whipper> Sonnentae: hmm.. dunno.. havent had any problms with gparted..
[21:58] <SilentSound> yay my isntall worked
[21:59] <_Whipper> SilentSound: my didnt..
[21:59] <Sonnentae> _Whipper: seems odd to have the disk mounted but not detectable huh?
[21:59] <_Whipper> Sonnentae: propably some issue with permissions etc..
[22:03] <noaXess> hi all
[22:03] <noaXess> is there any isue with sun-java6-plugin? i can't open a website with java enabled?
[22:07] <OpenSorce> Help: My nvidia driver is loaded and has worked fine up until today and now it seems to be stuck at 640X480
[22:08] <_Whipper> OpenSorce: tweak it
[22:08] <OpenSorce> I added a "modes" section in the xorg.conf which only seems to change the "virtual" desktop size
[22:08] <OpenSorce> This monitor video card combo was doing great at 1280x1024 yesterday
[22:09] <_Whipper> video-card-combo?
[22:10] <OpenSorce> Excuse me?
[22:10] <OpenSorce> This....Video card AND Monitor.....that work better?
[22:11] <_Whipper> OpenSorce: :) yes
[22:11] <OpenSorce> _Wh: Do you actually help people here or are you the resident troll?
[22:11] <OpenSorce> stupid nick complete...
[22:11] <OpenSorce> That's a serious question btw
[22:12] <_Whipper> OpenSorce: Seriously, im not a troll, resident evil more..
[22:12] <OpenSorce> uh-huh
[22:12] <_Whipper> OpenSorce: and how-come that kind of q?
[22:13] <OpenSorce> Because you've said absolutely nothing constructive and only asked stupid questions?
[22:13] <_Whipper> OpenSorce: ok
[22:23] <noaXess> !info java
[22:23] <noaXess> !java
[22:27] <buntunub> hey all! does anyone have a guide for installing KDE4.3 from svn on kubuntu 9.04?
[22:28] <buntunub> or is kde4.3 already in the works to be upgraded for jaunty yet
[22:33] <SilentSound> whats the best software to host my own DNS and Site?
[22:34] <neversfelde> SilentSound: bind + apache, I guess
[22:34] <neversfelde> bu that depends on the server and your skills
[22:35] <SilentSound> neversfelde: My skills are zero, but i gotta start somewhere
[22:35] <SilentSound> so bind and apache?
[22:36] <neversfelde> sure you want to use your own DNS?
[22:36] <SilentSound> ya, im 14, its sorta hard for me to buy one
[22:37] <neversfelde> but you have a server with a static ip?
[22:37] <SilentSound> 2
[22:38] <neversfelde> k, than go ahead ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[22:38] <SilentSound> thanks
[22:39] <neversfelde> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[22:39] <neversfelde> should be ok
[22:39] <neversfelde> you should read the man pages, too
[22:39] <buntunub> is jaunty going to get kde4.3 upgrade?
[22:40] <Mamarok> buntunub: it's not even released yet :)
[22:40] <buntunub> beta was released today and it looks sweet!
[22:40] <neversfelde> buntunub: as far as I know it would need a Qt upgrade first
[22:41] <buntunub> here is an upgrade guide for sid http://www.unixcod.org/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,83/func,view/catid,21/id,88/
[22:41] <buntunub> but not sure how that jives with ubuntu
[22:42] <buntunub> ive posted lots of backtrace bugs to kde upstream and so far all kde devs saying fixes for these bugs are in kde4.3 so i want it lol
[22:42] <buntunub> 99% of them plasma bugs
[22:42] <neversfelde> buntunub: thats I guide to use a SVN Version, isn't it?
[22:43] <neversfelde> there is no news about 4.3 beta an kde.org
[22:44] <Mamarok> and we would know about, rest assured :)
[22:44] <neversfelde> well, you can do an easy upgrade, when there are packages. When it is not released, therw ill be no packages ;)
[22:44] <buntunub> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule
[22:45] <cymon> hi everybody!
[22:45] <neversfelde> yeah, thats the schedule :)
[22:45] <buntunub> # 1.5 May 12th, 2009: Release KDE 4.3 Beta 1
[22:45] <neversfelde> buntunub: probably it is delayed :)
[22:45] <burner> help!?!?  I have no kicker... err...whatever the bar is called now, how do i get it back?
[22:45] <neversfelde> it is a beta version, though...
[22:46] <buntunub> ya i know
[22:46] <neversfelde> burner: conext menue on desktop + add panel or something like that. Sorry german Desktop here
[22:46] <buntunub> if there is a guide for upgrading via svn i will do it that way when the time comes but not sure how
[22:46] <neversfelde> s/conext/context
[22:46] <BluesKaj> burner:  right click on the desktop . choose add widgets find the kicker
[22:48] <burner> the kicker is not in my list of widgets?!?
[22:48] <burner> what's the name of it specifically?
[22:48] <neversfelde> there is no kicker in KDE4
[22:49] <BluesKaj> application Launch
[22:49] <burner> I have an application launcher, but it just floats on my desktop... i have no... uhh... Dock?  Bar?  WTF is it called these days?
[22:49] <BluesKaj> panel
[22:50] <burner> aww, thats it!  it doesn't show panel in my list of widgets either though
[22:50] <BluesKaj> right click on the desktop add panel
[22:50] <burner> in kde?
[22:50] <neversfelde> yes :)
[22:50] <burner> that's a gnomey kind of thing to add panel
[22:50] <djbello> Hi there
[22:51] <buntunub> you can use lancelot too
[22:51] <BluesKaj> dunno I ran gnome for one day and switched ...to much brown
[22:51] <burner> grr... i just want a panel :(
[22:51] <djbello> I'd like to download Kubuntu 9.04 Desktop fir i386 architecture via Jigdo, but I can't find the jigdo files nor the template files. Anybody got an idea?
[22:51] <BluesKaj> to
[22:51] <BluesKaj> err too much brown
[22:51] <neversfelde> burner: right click on desktop => add panel
[22:51] <buntunub> funny too that good ol stable GNOME is now going crazy with GNOME 3.0
[22:52] <ramblerouser> how good is the driver support for ati graphics cards on intrepid 8.10?
[22:52] <ramblerouser> would i be able to do any gaming at all?
[22:52] <burner> neversfelde: there is no "add panel" in my right click menu on the desktop
[22:52] <buntunub> everyone gonna switch to kde4 as the new stable DE lol
[22:52] <neversfelde> burner: widgets are unlocked?
[22:53] <neversfelde> it is the green + symbol
[22:53] <burner> neversfelde: aww... i know :)  I had folderview as my entire desktop... i switched the Type to "desktop" instead of "folderview" in my appearance settings and I can now right click to add panel... thanks!
[22:53] <neversfelde> burner: ok :D
[22:55] <ramblerouser> so...is there any way to play a game such as wow if I'm running an ati graphics card?
[22:55] <ramblerouser> i'm downgrading from jaunty to intrepid, what's the support like for that if i'm running a radeon x1400?
[22:56] <djbello> Is jigdo out of style?
[22:58] <burner> djbello: yes :)
[22:59] <burner> http://torrent.ubuntu.com is where I get my release fixes
[22:59] <ubuntu> whats the deal with 9.04 not being able to connect to wep wireless points, or even connect to a wired connection?
[22:59] <burner> ubuntu: i'm wired ehre
[22:59] <ubuntu> kubuntu just tells me it fails
[23:00] <ubuntu> im sure hoping gparted doesnt fail on me lol, im waiting on it to finish
[23:00] <neversfelde> ubuntu: use knetworkmanager instead of plasma-widget-networkmanager or test a newer version from the experimental repo
[23:01] <ubuntu> ill try that
[23:01] <ubuntu> gparted is staring at me =/
[23:01] <neversfelde> last step would be to switch to network-manager-gnome until plasma-widget-networkmanager is in a working state for you
[23:04] <kasumi> Anyone here that can help?
[23:04] <neversfelde> kasumi: sure, anyone is here
[23:04] <ubuntu> how do i release a locked process
[23:04] <neversfelde> but I do not know, if he can help^^
[23:04] <kasumi> ^^
[23:05] <ubuntu> !locked
[23:05] <kasumi> I just installed Kubuntu for the first time, and nothing seems to be working right (minus the web browser and IRC)
[23:06] <neversfelde> well, that are at least two things :). You should specifiy your problem a bit?
[23:06] <kasumi> Amarok opens, but it won't play anything.  I tried to install Banshee and then it told me that my Intltool was out of date, so I tried to update that, but then it said I didn't have gettext.
[23:08] <neversfelde> mhh, did you install libxine1-ffmpeg befor playing mp3 files?
[23:08] <kasumi> So I tried fixing that, and gettext is now giving me errors.
[23:08] <kasumi> ...no v.v;
[23:08] <neversfelde> I am not familiar with banshee, that is a gnome app
[23:09] <neversfelde> try sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg and restart amarok
[23:09] <neversfelde> after that it should giv you sound
[23:09] <neversfelde> s/giv/give
[23:10] <kasumi> "Couldn't find package libxinel-ffmpeg"
[23:11] <dwidmann> kasumi: that's strange, it's in main
[23:11] <kasumi> kasumi@JROCKist:~$ sudo apt-get install libxinel-ffmpeg
[23:11] <kasumi> [sudo] password for kasumi:
[23:11] <kasumi> Reading package lists... Done
[23:11] <kasumi> Building dependency tree
[23:11] <kasumi> Reading state information... Done
[23:11] <kasumi> E: Couldn't find package libxinel-ffmpeg
[23:11] <kasumi> kasumi@JROCKist:~$
[23:11] <neversfelde> thats libxine(0ne)
[23:11] <neversfelde> no L
[23:12] <neversfelde> libxine1-ffmpeg
[23:12] <kasumi> libxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.
[23:13] <kasumi> But...I have sound now o_o
[23:13] <neversfelde> mhh
[23:13] <kasumi> *happy brain crash*
[23:13] <neversfelde> kasumi: purge that banshee thing :D
[23:14] <kasumi> hahaha who needs banshee when I have sound now ^^
[23:14] <neversfelde> I am off, gn8
[23:14] <kasumi> Thank you ^^
[23:21] <juan_> hi
[23:21] <juan_> ok
[23:23] <Zlobomir> Hello
[23:23] <Zlobomir> Do you read me?
[23:24] <rmrfslash> How can I start a VNC server from the command lin
[23:24] <Zlobomir> Do you read me?
[23:24] <Zlobomir> Hello
[23:24] <Zlobomir> I guess like with everything, type appy name
[23:25] <Zlobomir> or ~ "sudo kVNC"
[23:25] <Zlobomir> kVNC = your vnc soft
[23:25] <Zlobomir> Now my pain :P
[23:26] <Zlobomir> Installed 9.04 over 8.10 and after it, 9.10
[23:26] <Zlobomir> With sudo update-manager -d
[23:27] <Zlobomir> How can I do a rollback?
[23:27] <Zlobomir> almost nothing works on 9.10
[23:27] <Zlobomir> I guess I was too early
[23:28] <rmrfslash> Zlombir: Why install 9.10?
[23:28] <Zlobomir> Umm, call it curiosity + stupidity
[23:28] <Zlobomir> U know, it is a bad habbit to ask why :D
[23:28] <rmrfslash> Zlombir: I don't think there's a roolback feature
[23:28] <Zlobomir> We are people, we do mistakes
[23:29] <Zlobomir> << all the time
[23:29] <rmrfslash> Zlombir: are we?
[23:29] <Zlobomir> Well, I bleed
[23:29] <Zlobomir> Do you? ;)
[23:29] <rmrfslash> Zlobomir: I aint got time to bleed.
[23:29] <Zlobomir> Geez, I am male
[23:30] <Zlobomir> Now pls help me if you can, pls
[23:30] <rmrfslash> Zlobomir: it's a bad habit to install pre-alpha software on a machine you need to rollback if it doesn't work.
[23:31] <Zlobomir> oh well, I have Vista on it as well
[23:31] <Zlobomir> And as long as I type via this 9.10, nowt so bad
[23:32] <Zlobomir> atm update manager is spitting some error about some package, which is also in konqueror
[23:32] <Zlobomir> blackbox is mentioned
[23:32] <Zlobomir> box of Pandora? :(
[23:33] <Zlobomir> It is 1:30 AM here
[23:33] <dwidmann> Zlobomir: your best option for rolling back is a reinstall
[23:33] <Zlobomir> Great, so in this regard Linux is similar to Windows? :D
[23:34] <Zlobomir> grub will go to *
[23:34] <Zlobomir> Vista will go to *
[23:34] <dwidmann> downgrading isn't impossible ... it's just fraught with difficulty and has plenty of places for you to run into problems. It's generally easier to reinstall
[23:35] <Zlobomir> Just the case for me :)
[23:35] <Zlobomir> Gimme the rollback line
[23:35] <BluesKaj> use GParted live cd tp reformat the linux ext3 partiton without affecting the windows part
[23:35] <Zlobomir> Or should I google?
[23:35] <rmrfslash> Zlobmoir: is there any software that supports a "rollback"?
[23:35] <dwidmann> Zlobomir: there's no one liner here
[23:36] <Zlobomir> Win supports some driver rollback
[23:36] <Zlobomir> And all the "brandy" machines
[23:36] <dwidmann> Zlobomir: You'll need to edit /etc/apt/preferences and pin 9.04 to a priority of 1001 or higher I think, then do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:36] <kaddi> ok, this is getting freaky... I had konversation opened earlier, then my X-server died and I had to login again. Ever since then I have a clone of myself idling in this channel... what should I do? :D restarting X or konversation doesn't change anything
[23:37] <Zlobomir> Which come with Win on HDD
[23:37] <Zlobomir> kaddi: Is that you or your clone, to start with. Show some ID
[23:37] <Zlobomir> Not cloned ID
[23:37] <dwidmann> kaddi: if you have the nick registered, you can /msg nickserv ghost nick  passwd
[23:38] <Zlobomir> Sorry, I have a sick sense of humor
[23:38] <juan_> spanis
[23:38] <kaddi> dwidmann: I did ghost my nick, it reconnected as kaddi__ which is what I want worrying
[23:39] <kaddi> sorry, please read "want" as "find"
[23:39] <dwidmann> kaddi: hmm, seems like you're non-underscored right now though, so why the worry?
[23:40] <Zlobomir> Because the VW model is Caddy...
[23:40] <Zlobomir> ok, googling for rollback
[23:40] <Zlobomir> brb
[23:40] <dwidmann> Zlobomir: scroll up and read what I said a few minutes ago first
[23:41] <rmrfslash> dwidmann: that would work?
[23:41] <dwidmann> rmrfslash: what would work?
[23:41] <kaddi> dwidmann: I'm from windows, when my pc decides to join irc-networks without consulting me first I get worried. ;) No I thought maybe there was a simple explanation, that I missed. That was the main reason for me asking. The only thing I found surprising is that the connection was reestablished after I ghosted him away.
[23:41] <rmrfslash> dwidmann: setting the priority and dist-upgrade?
[23:42] <dwidmann> rmrfslash: Well, yes, but it doesn't mean you're not going to run into problems either
[23:43] <dwidmann> kaddi: well, most of the irc programs for linux have some sort of auto-reconnect feature
[23:44] <dwidmann> ooh, WD 1TB HDDs for $85/free shipping... not bad
[23:45] <Zlobomir> back, yep, going to replace sources...
[23:45] <kaddi> dwidmann gimme gimme gimme :D
[23:45] <juan_> hi
[23:45] <juan_> ok q lo q
[23:45] <dwidmann> kaddi: head over to newegg within the next 8 hours then
[23:46] <the> ñll+
[23:46] <dwidmann> kaddi: oh, and EMCLSMN28 is the promo code
[23:47] <rmrfslash> dwidmann: I saw that too. Don't remember where
[23:47] <rmrfslash> dwidmann: (the $85 1 TB drives)
[23:49] <the> 100 dolla ok palomo .
[23:51] <genetics_> hi, i have an issue where kpackageit is crashing or tells me I have no permission to install
[23:52] <genetics_> is there a way to fix this?
[23:52] <ign0ramus> genetics_, are you running kpackage kit as superuser?
[23:52] <genetics_> ign0ramus: nope, from the "Utilities" menu. I am "sudo -s"
[23:53] <rmrfslash> VNC Client on Kubuntu?
[23:53] <ign0ramus> genetics_, it's probably a kde wallet issue.... what if you were to run 'kdesudo kpackagekit' from terminal?
[23:53] <dwidmann> rmrfslash: krdc, I think
[23:54] <dwidmann> !kdesudo | genetics_
[23:54] <genetics_> ign0ramus: than it works
[23:55] <ign0ramus> genetics_, well then it's pretty clear when kpackagekit is launching, it doesn't have the correct privileges.
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> KPackageKit shouldn't need to be run as root. It asks for your password if/when you make changes
[23:55] <genetics_> Dragnslcr: would make sence
[23:55] <ign0ramus> genetics_, you can mess with wallet settings, or change the command in the menu to 'kdesudo kpackagekit'
[23:55] <genetics_> ign0ramus: thanks, will try
[23:55] <dwidmann> The problem was sudo + graphical app, most likely.
[23:56] <ign0ramus> genetics_, and don't be root or use 'sudo' for graphical apps
[23:56] <ign0ramus> thanks dwidmann ;)
[23:57] <rmrfslash> dwidmann: yeah, thanks
[23:59] <genetics_> ign0ramus: it seems as kwallet is not called at all when I launche the package manager
[23:59] <kaddi> dwidmann thanks :)