[00:01] <wgrant> If it adds new functionality, why wouldn't you put the new version of the dependency in the older release as well?
[00:04] <ninix> that's not necessary a dependency that i support.. but it is in ubuntu.
[00:40] <poolie> jml: re bug 297902, *i* don't see options to set importance, status etc when filing a bzr bug
[00:41] <jml> poolie: on which project, I wonder.
[00:42] <poolie> yes i wondered about that too, so i tried it on bzr
[00:42] <poolie> i was testing on edge
[00:42] <poolie> maybe it's different on staging?
[00:42] <wgrant> I've been able to do it on edge.
[00:42] <poolie> !!
[00:43] <jml> poolie: https://devpad.canonical.com/~jml/advanced-form.png
[00:43] <jml> sorry about the password protection -- I need to memorize a public server for pushing screenshots to.
[00:44] <wgrant> Ubuntu One!
[00:44] <wgrant> Although I don't think that actually does public :(
[00:44] <jml> also, I haven't installed it yet.
[00:45] <james_w> wgrant: I think it's possible through the nautilus menu, though I haven't tried it
[00:45] <james_w> unless that's the old broken samba based sharing
[00:45] <lifeless> jml: paste.ubuntu.com
[00:45] <wgrant> james_w: That's Samba sharing.
[00:45] <lifeless> jml: oh, screenies. uhm
[00:45] <james_w> lifeless: uuencode?
[00:46] <lifeless> james_w: ugly
[00:46] <lifeless> flickr maybe
[00:46] <wgrant> I don't think U1 does Nautilus integration yet.
[00:46] <lifeless> U1 would work too
[00:46] <lifeless> wgrant: I'm fairly sure it does
[00:46] <james_w> wgrant: for sure it does
[00:46] <wgrant> lifeless: I can't see it anywhere.
[00:46]  * wgrant restarts Nautilus
[00:46] <poolie> jml: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26609824/2009-05-12-094353_1024x737_scrot.png
[00:47] <poolie> maybe it's implemented but buggy
[00:47] <james_w> wgrant: go to the directory, you get a banner
[00:47] <lifeless> jml: you can attach screenshots to lp bugs
[00:47] <jml> poolie: yeah, so that's something that I get on the bzr page
[00:47] <lifeless> jml: so open a bug; called 'jmls screenshots'.
[00:47] <wgrant> james_w: Looks like I needed to restart Nautilus.
[00:47] <james_w> ah
[00:47]  * lifeless admires the info leakage
[00:48] <jml> poolie: I don't know what the secret is.
[00:49] <wgrant> james_w: So you can do sharing through Nautilus.
[00:49] <james_w> wgrant: how?
[00:49] <wgrant> james_w: Right click, Share on Ubuntu One.
[00:50] <wgrant> It's not public sharing, though.
[00:50] <lifeless> poolie: there is an advanced filing form
[00:50] <poolie> lifeless: yes, this is it
[00:50] <poolie> it's unfortunately distinguishable from magic :)
[00:51] <wgrant> I definitely get the extra options on +filebug(-advanced) on edge.
[00:53] <poolie> ok
[00:53] <james_w> I don't get them for bzr though
[00:53] <poolie> i definitely don't
[00:53] <poolie> so there's some kind of bug
[00:54] <james_w> for projects I "own" I do
[00:55] <wgrant> I get them for Ubuntu, where I'm not the owner - just the bug supervisor and uploader.
[00:59] <james_w> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-storage-protocol
[00:59] <james_w> "1  branch owned by 7  people and 1  team,"
[00:59] <wgrant> There should be no branches; I filed that bug last need.
[00:59] <wgrant> Er.
[00:59] <wgrant> Last *night*.
[00:59] <james_w> well, I can see one branch link, but can't see the branch
[00:59] <wgrant> The stats are also precalculated, and a bug I filed about that message making no sense was Won't Fix'd IIRC.
[00:59] <james_w> but I don't see how that branch is owned by 7 people and 1 team
[00:59] <james_w> ah
[00:59] <james_w> thanks
[01:07]  * thumper coughs
[01:07] <thumper> they aren't pre calculated
[01:07] <thumper> they are just generated by branches you can't see :)
[01:07]  * thumper will get around to fixing it
[01:09] <wgrant> thumper: Oh, so there is actually no reason not to fix it. Good.
[02:16] <wgrant> Can a code person please look at bug #374865 fairly soon? It has vanished from edge now, but is still on staging.
[02:24] <spm> blech. forgot about staging. ta.
[02:25] <wgrant> spm: Ah, so that bug is known?
[02:26] <spm> wgrant: mis config, not bug.. :-(
[02:26] <wgrant> spm: Is that why I saw a bug about auditing privacy policy changes?
[02:27] <wgrant> i don't see how that isn't a bug, though - I can't see the branch, so it shouldn't be visible in listings.
[02:27] <spm> wgrant: I wouldn't like to hazard a guess... ;-)
[02:27] <spm> wgrant: not sure. I see what you mean tho. thumper is probably best placed to answer that tho.
[02:40] <thumper> wgrant: it was a bug that you couldn't see it
[02:40] <thumper> well...
[02:40] <thumper> kinda yes, kinda no
[02:40] <thumper> not a simple answer
[03:43] <ziroday> Hi, I seem to have an extremely flaky connection when using bzr to pull from launchpad and usually get around 5kB/s or so, anyway to speed it up?
[03:45] <spiv> ziroday: which version of bzr are you using, and are you pulling via http or bzr+ssh?
[03:46] <spiv> and which branch?
[03:46] <ziroday> spiv: using 1.13.1, branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk and I have no idea to the http or ssh :)
[03:47] <spiv> ziroday: what URL are you using to pull that branch?
[03:47] <ziroday> spiv: I just did bzr branch lp:breathe-icon-set
[03:47] <ziroday> so I presume that's http?
[03:47] <spiv> It depends on whether you have done "bzr launchpad-login YOUR_LP_ID"
[03:47] <ziroday> spiv: no I haven't yet
[03:48] <SamB> ziroday: didn't it show an expanded URL?
[03:48] <ziroday> SamB: I'll pastebin the whole terminal output
[03:48] <spiv> As SamB points out bzr will tell you the URL it expanded the lp URL to.
[03:48] <spiv> But if you run that command (and upload your SSH public key to Launchpad), then bzr can use bzr+ssh for lp URLs, which is generally much faster than HTTP.
[03:49] <ziroday> spiv: ah neat
[03:49] <SamB> if you don't upload that public key, though, it can just fail
[03:49] <ziroday> http://pastebin.com/m6ad04457 here's the terminal output
[03:49] <ziroday> right, upload ssh public key I shall, thanks SamB spiv!
[03:49] <SamB> until either you do, or you remove the login from whatever file in ~/.bazaar it got added to ...
[03:50] <ziroday> well its working currently, just horrifically slowly
[03:51] <SamB> hmm, how recently did you update bzr?
[03:52] <ziroday> SamB: err nevermind it just crashed
[03:52] <SamB> and that's another reason to update!
[03:53] <ziroday> SamB: this is a fresh jaunty install, should I be moving to some PPA?
[03:53] <ziroday> here's the traceback of the crash http://pastebin.com/m64c5c70a
[03:56] <spiv> ziroday: the 1.13.1 in Jaunty is ok, there is a PPA at https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive for more recent releases if you like
[03:56] <SamB> probably should ask a bout it in #bzr, and paste the exception line to the channel directly?
[03:57] <ziroday> SamB: shall do
[03:57] <spiv> ziroday: that error is typically a sign of disk corruption.
[03:57] <ziroday> spiv: mmm don't think I have disk corruption
[03:57] <ziroday> anyway no matter, I'll upgrade to latest bzr and add my ssh key
[03:57] <SamB> spiv: could launchpad have disk corruption ?
[03:58] <ziroday> or could the transfer have got garbled along the way?
[03:58] <spiv> SamB: no, but the person that originally pushed that branch might...
[03:58] <SamB> spiv: and launchpad wouldn't have balked at that?
[03:58] <spiv> SamB: it depends :)
[03:58] <spiv> I would probably expect it too.
[03:58] <spiv> s/too/to
[03:59] <spiv> It's also possible that there's a bzr bug, although so far I don't think that exception has ever turned out to be a bzr bug, but perhaps there's a first time...
[04:00] <ziroday> mmm, I have a feeling its something to do with the dodgy govt. internet
[04:00] <ziroday> plays havoc with all sorts of things
[04:00] <spiv> Over HTTP, it could also be due to a dodgy proxy I suppose.
[04:00] <ziroday> spiv: all connection go through a transparent govt. proxy here, it causes hiccups for everything
[04:01] <spiv> If so, that's another reason to use bzr+ssh
[04:01] <ziroday> yep
[04:03] <ziroday> anyway I'm using bzr+ssh I'll see how that fares
[04:03] <spiv> ziroday: FWIW branching that over bzr+ssh works ok for me.
[04:04] <spiv> (at well over 100kB/s overall)
[04:05] <SamB> bzr+ssh should be fine as long as the govt. doesn't MitM your SSH connections automatically ;-)
[04:05] <ziroday> spiv: I'm getting 20kB/s now, looks like bzr+ssh is the way to go
[04:05] <SamB> and, if it does, it should fail to authenticate at all
[04:05] <ziroday> SamB: I have no clue what our dear govt. does besides be a royal PITA
[04:07] <SamB> yes, but the thing about MitM and SSH is that it would presumably result in your public key not matching what launchpad sees from the MitM
[04:07] <SamB> (MitM stands for Man in the Middle, a type of cryptographic attack)
[04:07] <ziroday> SamB: yep, the key fingerprint's match up
[04:08] <ziroday> SamB: and I doubt they would go that far out of the way just to pick on launchpad
[04:08] <SamB> unless you're dealing with the NSA, you should be fine ;-)
[04:08] <ziroday> heh
[04:12] <daftykins> MitM isn't necessarily cryptographic
[04:12] <daftykins> enter; the ARP poisoning attack :)
[05:10] <lifeless> has the email interface changed?
[05:11] <thumper> lifeless: for what?
[05:11] <lifeless> bugs
[05:11] <lifeless> its rejecting
[05:11] <lifeless>  status confirmed
[05:11] <lifeless>  affects bzr
[05:11] <lifeless> and I can't see whats wrong there
[05:11] <thumper> lifeless: it should say what is wrong
[05:12] <thumper> can you pastebin me the full raw email text?
[05:12] <lifeless> it says noThe bug is reported in 0
[05:12] <lifeless> different contexts, and you have to specify which one by using the
[05:12] <lifeless> affects command.
[05:12] <lifeless> For example:
[05:12] <lifeless>     affects /distros/ubuntu
[05:13] <thumper> affects /bzr ?
[05:13] <thumper> although
[05:13] <thumper> I'm not sure
[05:13] <lifeless> at 10 am I sent in
[05:13] <lifeless>  affects launchpad-code
[05:13] <lifeless> and that worked
[05:13] <lifeless> whatever is wrong has changed in the last 4 hours
[05:13] <lifeless> spm: ^
[05:14] <thumper> lifeless: we don't change the mail processor
[05:14] <lifeless> s/don't/didn't/ ?
[05:14] <thumper> unless there is a cherry pick
[05:14] <thumper> spm: was there a cherry pick in the last four hours?
[05:14] <lifeless> thumper: right, thus me asking:)
[05:14] <thumper> I don't think there was
[07:02] <wgrant> lifeless: Would that not be because you need the 'affects' line before the other commands?
[07:11] <lifeless> wgrant: who knows
[07:11] <lifeless> wgrant: if it needs to be, then I imagine I'd have read docs to that affect somewhere
[07:12] <wgrant> lifeless: Given that you can alter multiple tasks, the statements need be executed in order, so it would make sense.
[07:13] <wgrant> Although some of the examples have them in the other order, maybe they're not on multi-task bugs.
[07:13] <wgrant> The example for the multi-task bug has the 'affects' command first.
[07:15] <lifeless> wgrant: this was a new bug
[07:16] <wgrant> lifeless: Oh.
[07:16] <wgrant> I missed the '0' in the error message.
[07:17] <lifeless> you may well be right
[07:17] <lifeless> regardless, bug open, should be easier to debug
[07:50] <cody-somerville> Can someone fix https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pike/7.8 ? It should be Pike/7.8 and not Pike/7.9
[07:50] <cody-somerville> err
[07:50] <cody-somerville> It should be Pike/7.8 and not pike/7.8
[07:55] <mwhudson> cody-somerville: done
[07:55] <cody-somerville> thanks
[08:04] <maxb> ooi, do the amd64 builders run on significantly slower hardware than the lpia ones?
[08:07] <wgrant> maxb: It looks like they're about the same (you can tell the approximate age of each machine using the naming scheme)
[08:08] <maxb> huh, I've been feeding the build queue sizes into rrdtool, and amd64 are noticable slower
[08:09] <wgrant> More stuff will fail on lpia, and I suppose lpia could be better optimised... but I really don't know.
[08:09] <maxb> (Also, "sandpaperfig" is part of a *scheme* ?!?! :-) )
[08:10] <wgrant> Yes. The fruits scheme, which seems to be latest.
[08:10] <wgrant> s/sc/t/, perhaps.
[08:11] <maxb> wow, it never even crossed my mind that it was a real plant, but google says it is
[08:11] <maxb> I thought it was a "jam two random words together" affair
[08:11] <wgrant> Heh, no.
[08:11] <wgrant> Although some of them look like it.
[08:12] <wgrant> Take the armel builders, for example.
[08:12] <wgrant> They're fruits.
[08:12] <maxb> the things you learn looking at the builders page... :-)
[08:16] <mwhudson> i think it goes penguins, antartic bases, elements, fruit
[08:18] <wgrant> That was my understanding.
[08:18] <wgrant> But penguins was very early on.
[08:18] <wgrant> (heh, gentoo.ubuntu.com still exists)
[08:25] <cody-somerville> mwhudson, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/pike/7.9 is also broken but this time because 7.9 doesn't exist yet - it will in the future though. Should I mark it failing, invalid, etc.?
[08:25] <mwhudson> cody-somerville: suspend it for now?
[08:26] <cody-somerville> okay
[08:26] <mwhudson> i generally find that if i have no idea which scheme a machine name is from, it's an antartic base
[08:26] <wgrant> mwhudson: It's more often a fruit for me.
[08:27] <wgrant> They've got some nice obscure ones.
[08:27] <wgrant> Although I suppose I see quite a different set of machines.
[08:28] <cody-somerville> Most of mine are all berries
[08:28] <Nafallo> berries \☺/
[08:29] <wgrant> Nafallo: I prefer the armel-fruits.
[08:30] <Nafallo> wgrant: you just say that cause you miss podocarpus
[08:31] <cody-somerville> I wonder what scheme humboldt belongs to
[08:31] <Nafallo> I like the berries, mostly because I know why I made them berries :-P
[08:31] <wgrant> Nafallo: It's taking podocarpus a while to be fixed. Or has it been reassigned?
[08:31] <Nafallo> cody-somerville: most likely antarctic station.
[08:32] <Nafallo> wgrant: priorities
[08:32] <wgrant> cody-somerville: Penguin, I think.
[08:32] <cody-somerville> Yea
[08:32] <cody-somerville> Penguin
[08:32] <Nafallo> penguin :-)
[08:33] <mwhudson> i wouldn't be surprised if penguins and antartic bases overlapped in a couple of names
[08:33] <wgrant> Then the world ends.
[09:19] <natureshadow> g'morrow folks
[09:28] <natureshadow> I have version 0.7.42-3 of a package in a PPA on Launchpad, now I ampackaging for Debian's official release and have to begin with 0.7.42-1 there. Is there any way of removing 0.7.42-3 from the Launchpad PPA and restarting with 0.7.42-1 there as well?
[09:28] <bigjools> natureshadow: unfortunately not, but you could open a new PPA
[09:29] <natureshadow> bigjools: ok, let me see ...
[09:30] <natureshadow> bigjools: Well, can I somehow mark the old PPA as "obsolete" then or something?
[09:30] <natureshadow> https://launchpad.net/~twittare/+archive/ppa
[09:30] <natureshadow> This is the PPA
[09:30] <bigjools> natureshadow: Launchpad remembers all versions that you ever upload.  You can delete the package, but it will still not let you upload the same or lower versions of it.
[09:31] <natureshadow> But I can upload a lower version to a new PPA, right?
[09:31] <bigjools> your best bet is to open yourself another PPA
[09:31] <bigjools> yes
[09:31] <bigjools> you can have more than one PPA on the go, you don't need to make anything obsolete
[09:32] <natureshadow> bigjools: Well, I just meant I want to tell users that the old PPA is not to be used
[09:33] <bigjools> natureshadow: just delete the packages that you don't want people to use
[09:34] <natureshadow> ok
[10:02] <loic-m> Hi
[10:03] <djsiegel_> sabdfl keybuk seb128 pitti mvo et al: I just took the launchpad tour, and had one of those moments where I was floored by how cool Launchpad is. Thank you for creating something so awesome!
[10:03] <loic-m> I've got some troubles with a ppa build of mplayer (same source package as karmic) for karmic - the build stops because of missing dependencies like debhelper and other stuff that is in karmic already (I checked)
[10:03] <wgrant> loic-m: Build log?
[10:04] <loic-m> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26545774/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.mplayer_2%3A1.0~rc2-0ubuntu20~karmic1_MANUALDEPWAIT.txt.gz
[10:04] <loic-m> my ppa is at https://launchpad.net/~loic-martin3/+archive/xvid
[10:04] <thumper> djsiegel_: I'm pleased you like it
[10:05] <thumper> djsiegel_: you can always praise feedback@launchpad.net :)
[10:05]  * thumper thinks anyway
[10:05] <djsiegel_> oh, good, to know,  thumper :)
[10:05] <wgrant> loic-m: E: Package liblzo-dev has no installation candidate
[10:05] <wgrant> loic-m: That's the error. Nothing about debhelper.
[10:05] <djsiegel_> thumper: so, if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all -- but if I do, email feedback@launchpad.net?
[10:05] <djsiegel_> your nick is apropos
[10:06] <thumper> djsiegel_: any feedback is good feedback
[10:06] <thumper> djsiegel_: just like any press is good press
[10:07] <loic-m> Thanks. Why was there all those missing warnings like "debhelper: missing", and how comes the same package built fine for karmic?
[10:07] <sobbayi> hi all. i am having trouble signing the code of conduct. i keep getting an error of no data despite using the the registered credentials. does anyone have any light on this?
[10:08] <natureshadow> sobbayi: What command are you using to sign it?
[10:08] <wgrant> loic-m: Those were part of the dependency calculation process. It was working out what it already had, and what it needed to install.
[10:08] <wgrant> loic-m: Perhaps liblzo-dev has only recently disappeared from the archive.
[10:08] <thumper> djsiegel_: what did you mean by "your nick is apropos"?
[10:09] <djsiegel_> I was referring to Bambi's Thumper
[10:09] <loic-m> Thanks for the explanation. Actually, liblzo-dev is not listed as a dependency on packages.ubuntu.com for mplayer
[10:09] <sobbayi> am using pgp --clearsign filename
[10:09] <djsiegel_> thumper: who gives advice on doling praise/blame
[10:10] <sobbayi> the file is being signed alright t when i paste it onto launchpad i get the no data error
[10:10] <thumper> djsiegel_: I can dole blame if you like :)
[10:10] <thumper> djsiegel_: we don't have advice on it
[10:11] <natureshadow> sobbayi: I'm not so sure whether it supports "real" PGP ...
[10:11] <natureshadow> I'm afraid you have to use GnuPG
[10:11] <thumper> is the key on the keyserver?
[10:12] <sobbayi> natureshadow: yeah the key is on the keyserver
[10:12] <loic-m> wgrant, thanks, I've checked the .diff.gz on packages.ubuntu.com and liblzo-dev is listed as a dependency in the diff.gz, but not on the package page. I'll try to ask on #ubuntu-motu
[10:14] <sobbayi> natureshadow: okay let me try the whole process again using GnuPG and see what happens
[10:17] <sobbayi> natureshadow: okay seems i was already using gnupg and even tried out a windows version (yes! am that desperate) but still no luck
[10:17] <natureshadow> hmm
[10:17] <natureshadow> sobbayi: Can you nopaste me the data block?
[10:20] <sobbayi> natureshadow: i have noticed something strange... here is the 1st line of the signed file..
[10:20] <sobbayi> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
[10:20] <natureshadow> sobbayi: This is correct
[10:20] <sobbayi> is the PGP the actually correct or should it be GPG?
[10:21] <sobbayi> next line
[10:21] <sobbayi> Hash: SHA1
[10:21] <natureshadow> sobbayi: Paste it please
[10:21] <sobbayi> = Ubuntu Code of Conduct =
[10:21] <sobbayi> the whole file?
[10:21] <natureshadow> Not here of course ^^
[10:21] <natureshadow> http://www.nopaste.com
[10:23] <sobbayi> http://www.nopaste.com/p/aijuI4FHT
[10:25] <soren> sobbayi: You've got at stack of spurious linebreaks in there.
[10:25] <natureshadow> soren: Wanted t osay that as well ;)
[10:26] <soren> sobbayi: http://nopaste.com/p/asl02ExZS <-- here. I fixed it for you.
[10:27] <natureshadow> soren: Do you think you can do that without breaking the signature?
[10:27] <soren> natureshadow: I did.
[10:27] <soren> natureshadow: The odd linebreaks were added after signing. You can tell by the fact that the signature itself is messed up.
[10:28] <natureshadow> soren: Sure, but I cannot verify it.
[10:28] <soren> natureshadow: Why?
[10:28] <natureshadow> soren: Because the hash in the signature doesn't match the hash stated in the file
[10:28] <natureshadow> *hash algorithm
[10:28] <soren> natureshadow: Err... What?
[10:28] <natureshadow> soren: Only got the message in German ;)
[10:28] <lifeless> what what
[10:29] <natureshadow> gpg: WARNUNG: Widersprechende Hashverfahren in der signierten Nachricht
[10:29] <soren> natureshadow: http://www.nopaste.com/p/asl02ExZS/txt <-- Works.
[10:29] <natureshadow> soren: oops, yes it does
[10:29] <natureshadow> Doesn't when I remove th elinebreaks ;)
[10:29] <sobbayi> thanks guys. i didnt notice that... surprisingly my local copy does not have those line breaks. it has worked now. Yay!!
[10:29] <soren> natureshadow: Well... Don't :)
[10:30] <soren> lifeless: hm?
[10:30] <natureshadow> soren: \r\n :P ?
[10:30] <lifeless> soren: nothing, just a very old joke
[10:31] <soren> lifeless: I see
[10:31] <soren> (, he said, but he really didn't)
[11:51] <Goundy> Is it possible to create a branch for my launchpad project through bazaar ?
[11:52] <Goundy> Actually I've a mainline, then I did: bzr branch mainline newBranch
[11:52] <Goundy> Now I want this newBranch to be hosted on launchpad also
[11:53] <wgrant> Goundy: Of course. Launchpad would be pretty useless for distributed development otherwise. Just 'bzr push lp:~user/project/branch'
[11:53] <intellectronica> Goundy: yeah, just push your branch to lp:~your-username/project-name/branch-name
[11:53] <wgrant> Replace 'user' with a team name if you want multiple people to be able to access it.
[11:53] <Goundy> oh I pushed to lp:project :P
[11:53] <Goundy> Now I understand my mistake. Thank you very much !
[11:53] <wgrant> lp:project is just an alias to another branch.
[11:53] <Goundy> I see !
[11:55] <Goundy> oh nice it worked !
[11:55] <wgrant> Launchpad has a convenient habit of doing that.
[11:55] <Goundy> yeah I see that
[11:55] <Goundy> I need to read more about bazaar also
[11:56] <Goundy> oh btw, wgrant I've one last question
[11:56] <wgrant> https://help.launchpad.net/Code is a good start for everything related to code on Launchpad.
[11:56] <Goundy> thanks :)
[11:56] <Goundy> My branch "mainline" is owned by me at the moment, can I set the ownership for a team that I create for example ?
[11:57] <wgrant> You can (click the pencil on the branch page, and you'll see a dropdown at the top). Anybody in that team can then write to the branch.
[11:57] <Goundy> Awesome. wgrant thank you very much ;)
[11:57] <wgrant> Goundy: No problem.
[12:09]  * henninge lunches
[12:22] <ziroday> Hi, is there a way to migrate https://launchpad.net/~nick-hs to https://launchpad.net/~nickhs ?
[12:25] <wgrant> ziroday: Click 'Change details' at the top right of that page. There you can rename it.
[12:26] <wgrant> ziroday: Although that will cause problems with your PPA.
[12:26] <ziroday> wgrant: being blind, thanks
[12:26] <ziroday> wgrant: and my PPA has a zilch in it currently
[12:26] <wgrant> ziroday: That should be fine, then.
[12:27] <ziroday> wgrant: worked fantastically, thanks again
[12:28] <wgrant> ziroday: np
[12:37] <wgrant> bigjools: I just saw that you're working on bug #370636 now, and had another thought - can I also use the suite-override upload feature to upload to other pockets?
[12:38] <bigjools> wgrant: I'll check the code
[12:41] <bigjools> wgrant: no they get rejected
[12:43] <wgrant> bigjools: OK.
[12:43] <bigjools> wgrant: nice thought though :)
[12:45] <wgrant> bigjools: I hope to have similar success when I next go hunting for security vulnerabilities.
[12:46] <bigjools> wgrant: so do I!
[13:22] <fta> hi, once again, i'm hitting the limit of a ppa: "Estimated repository size: 10.0 GiB (99.57%) of 10.0 GiB", should I file a question?
[13:22] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[13:24] <fta> i started to do debs for karmic yesterday and i will add lpia today :P
[13:24] <wgrant> Wow. -testsuite-dbg is big.
[13:45] <fta> wgrant, indeed. i will probably drop it at some point as it's not that useful.
[14:21] <Goundy> Hi back.
[14:22] <Goundy> I created a new branch in launchpad => https://code.launchpad.net/louza
[14:22] <Goundy> So now I've two: mainline and miloud_work the problem is that the miloud_work one no longer appears there...
[14:22] <Goundy> How come?
[14:23] <wgrant> Goundy: See the status dropdown at the top? Select "Any status" rather than "Any active status".
[14:24] <wgrant> It looks like your branch was automatically marked as merged, as it contained no new revisions.
[14:24] <wgrant> You can change the status back.
[14:24] <Goundy> wgrant oh I see ^^
[14:24] <Goundy> thank you very much again :)
[14:24] <wgrant> Goundy: No problem, again!
[14:25] <Goundy> Awesome all's okay \o/
[14:25] <wgrant> Excellent.
[16:53] <fta> wgrant: fyi, I reopened https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/62386
[17:12] <vertix> i need some help with not being able to boot ubunto 8.10. Is there anyone online now?
[17:13] <maxb_> vertix: Try #ubuntu
[17:14] <vertix> well, this problem is prolly not exactly the ubundu issue. but who knows. I thought it is grub issue
[17:16] <Spads> vertix: Then you absolutely want #ubuntu.
[17:21] <vertix> well, it is almost impossble to do anything on #ubuntu cause it is so busy
[17:23] <Spads> vertix: well you could ask a question on https://answers.launchpad.net/
[17:24] <vertix> thanx, Spads, i guess i have to try that one also. I already spent a week not being able to boot and i am a develper, but did not work with linux lately
[17:30] <vertix> well, that #ubuntu chan is really useless with all the traffic. too bad
[17:30] <maxb_> I agree :-/
[17:30] <vertix> may be someone here knows about mounting the root file system
[17:30] <maxb_> But I still don't think you should abuse unrelated channels because of that
[17:30] <vertix> the filesystem is clean and it is referenced via coorect device file
[17:31] <vertix> kernel starts booting
[17:31] <vertix> and then this error [2.023879] VFS: Cannot open root device "sdb8"
[17:32] <vertix> i have two drives, IDE and SCSI, and i noticed they are being swapped around, but even when i tried to address it on both drives, still get the same problem
[17:32] <vertix> any idea?
[17:46] <fanno> morning/evning all depending on where in the world you all are =) i have been looking around, am i correct in understanding that launchpad is "only a hosting service", and that launchpad cant be installed on private servers ? or in any case i cant find anything about that toppic
[18:04] <maxb_> fanno: Correct. (Though *bits* of Launchpad become open source at the end of July)
[18:24] <fanno> maxb_: thankyou =) i cant wait untill i can integrate it with joomla =)
[20:27] <sale> for the last couple of days I keep getting timeout errors at translations.launchpad.net ...what's going on?
[20:28] <beuno> sale, do you have an OOPS id?
[20:28] <beuno> also, danilo_ may know more
[20:28] <sale> beuno: Error ID: OOPS-1228EA217
[20:28] <danilo_> sale: I'll take a look (there's a bug I am working on, though, but let me check if that's it first)
[20:30] <sale> danilo_: oh, yeah, now I remember I read something about that on the mailing list
[20:32] <danilo_> sale: that's it, it happens only on edge, please disable redirection using the button on https://launchpad.net/ and use that until this is fixed (I am landing a fix for this, and it should be on edge tomorrow or the day after)
[20:37] <sale> danilo_: everything seems to be OK now (even though using translations.launchpad.net few minutes ago resulted with some kind of connection error to Launchpad)
[20:37] <sale> danilo_: thank you for your time
[20:38] <danilo_> sale: the bug is not yet fixed, so you may hit more problems on translations.edge.launchpad.net, especially when saving, so I suggest you to not use edge until this rolls out (I'll email the list about it)
[22:28] <mirak> I have a version like that 0.99.5+cvs20070914-2.1~lenny2ubuntu2 , I want to rebuilt it and upload to ppa, how do I adapt the version number ?
[22:43] <mwhudson> mirak: i guess i would go for something like 0.99.5+cvs20070914-2.1~lenny2ubuntu3~ppa0
[22:44] <savvas> that's a train-version :)
[22:44] <savvas> as in really long :P
[22:45] <mwhudson> yeah
[22:46]  * SamB would suggest starting with a different base package version ;-)
[22:46] <maxb> I do not understand why people advise the "increment ubuntu revision and append ~ppa" method
[22:47] <SamB> maxb: what method would you suggest?
[22:47] <maxb> I find "do *not* increment the ubuntu revision, and append +ppa" to be much more reflective of what you're actually packaging
[22:47] <SamB> ah.
[22:47] <SamB> yeah.
[22:48] <maxb> I'm curious where mirak arrived at that version number, since the archive only has an ....ubuntu1 version of that
[22:48] <mwhudson> maxb: i guess that would make more sense indeed
[22:49] <SamB> yeah, ~ mostly seems to make sense for backports ...
[22:53] <wgrant> ~ also makes sense when what you are packaging is actually an early version of the next release in the primary archive.
[22:53] <williamd> Isnt launchpad a really broad topic, or is it for the webpage utilities?
[22:53] <SamB> yeah, and release-candidates and stuff
[22:53] <SamB> sure
[22:54] <wgrant> williamd: It's for the website itself. How is it really broad?
[22:54] <williamd> I use launchpad for Ubuntu realated bug stuff
[22:54] <williamd> Do all the distros use it?
[22:54] <wgrant> No, only Ubuntu and a couple of others.
[22:54] <SamB> no, this channel isn't about all projects in launchpad, just about what launchpad does ...
[22:54] <mirak> maxb: maybe it's from a backported version ?
[22:54] <wgrant> #ubuntu-bugs is good for discussing Ubuntu bugs.
[22:55] <wgrant> #ubuntu for Ubuntu support
[22:55] <wgrant> Here for Launchpad support.
[22:55] <maxb> mirak: I don't understand what you mean
[22:55] <SamB> maxb: what exactly was in the "..."?
[22:55] <maxb> Exactly the same except the last digit
[22:56] <mirak> maxb: I did a dch -iU before pasting here probably
[22:57] <maxb> For the sake of your users and co-developers, do try to keep your version numbers meaningful
[22:57] <mirak> maxb: I just copy pasted it don't bother with this number
[22:58] <mirak> though you remark is valid
[22:58] <mirak> but it's just a little error of pasting