[00:22] I added a new Hard Drive today, moved my video files over to it, in the process, I managed to muck things up and fill my primary partition (seperate from my video partition). Now mythtv won't start properly. I did a Database restore, but the backend.log still says that the database is not open. Help? [00:47] next recording in: 123 hours... [03:04] hi, what is the name of the file manager in mythbuntu, if I want to invoke it from cli? [03:07] thunar [03:16] tgm4883, thanks [04:18] How's everyone.. [04:25] is there a way to download a mythbuntu update to a flash drive and force hte update? i'm dealing w/ this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/341183 [04:32] hi Kodiak 2.6.24 is only in 8.04 [04:32] can you try 8.10 or 9.04? [04:57] Greetings.. Anyone around? [05:00] nope [05:01] ok, i'm around [05:01] !hi | docelm0 [05:01] docelm0: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? [05:01] small question.. I personally think my video card sucks.. but looking for confirmation [05:02] it appears I am not getting the FPS I should be.. my video frames/audio is perfect.. just wicked jerky [05:02] CPU is at 20% [05:04] what vid card? [05:04] what type of content are you trying to watch? [05:04] did you install the proprietary drivers? [05:08] Sorry no.. Using stock drivers with mythbuntu [05:09] I have a S3 Uni Chrome Pro onboard video [05:09] anyone running a bttv? [05:09] Standard TV video [05:09] no HD [05:09] or umm... know how I can invoke /usr/bin/mythtv in debug... [05:10] Xawtv is working fine, but mythtv is choking to a blue screen... but it does change the channels.. and I can hear audio.. [05:12] docelm0, sorry, I know nothing about that vid card [05:13] k thanks [05:23] What does MythTV use to send audio over a LAN? [05:25] New to MythTV/Mythbuntu, trying to switch to Watch TV mode is failing. Does anyone have any ideas? http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f167f018e [05:54] Can Mythbuntu use NAS? === Kodiak is now known as FPSDavid [06:04] hi, i just tried to upgrade mythbuntu [06:04] and for whatever reason i couldnt get it to work [06:04] http://pastebin.com/df8a34e1 [07:29] Hi, anyone interested in 9400GT PCI video cards here - and mythbuntu [07:32] Seems using the PCI bus limits the amount of RAM usable when using a 32 bit version. [08:59] Hmmm Installing 9.04, I need to upgrade from the default 180.44 (that does not support my card fully) to 180.51 that is supposed to... How does one get synaptic to move nvidia-glx-180 from 180.44 to the latest. Options are only uninstall and reinstall - which does not upgrade.... [09:00] Technophil, you can't upgrade to somethign that is NOT there [09:00] if you want that driver you will either have to wait til it hits the repos, or manual install it yourself from Nvidia [09:00] OK, I thought it would download it. Ahhh [09:01] So is it ok to do a manual install using the NVIDIA file in mythbuntu? [09:01] nah, it does not work like that [09:01] it's ok, so long as you know what you are doing [09:01] you will be responsible for the maintence of your video driver then [09:02] you have to make sure build-essentials, kernel headers, are installed [09:02] and you will have to reove everything nvidia from synaptic [09:02] Well I can uninstall from synaptic.... I am fine about keeping an eye on nvidia for their latest, no doubt they will continue to do releases for the coming months [09:03] I have a 9500GT [09:03] the 180.44 driver is working fine [09:03] for me at least [09:03] so which 18x.xx are you running? [09:04] Ahhh 9400GT support NVIDIA say only cam in about 180.50 [09:04] I am getting font issues, for example "c"'s are squares [09:04] Sounds odd. [09:04] weird [09:06] Confirming from the NVIDIA announcements GeForce 9400 GT was first stated as supported with 180.50 [09:07] go for it! [09:08] Is build headers "apt-build" in synaptic? [09:08] woops, build essentials [09:08] no [09:09] apt-get install build-essentials linux-headers [09:09] that shoudl be enough [09:09] jeez too easy when you know what you're doing! [09:09] I've done it plenty of times [09:10] comes in handy when you run Alpha Ubuntus with broken xorgs [09:10] So I remove completely the NVIDIS stuff from synaptic, run your apt and download / run the nvidia installer? [09:10] yup [09:10] Nothing like bad experiences to learn one... [09:10] The Nvidia installer has great text documentation [09:11] you'll have to shut down gdm to run the installer [09:11] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [09:11] don't bring the gui down until you download the nvidia installer [09:12] remember where you downloaded it [09:12] and then chmod a+x on the installer to make it executable [09:12] all of this is in the installer directions [09:12] good luc [09:12] brb, out for a smoke [09:13] Which one? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.51-pkg0.run or NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.51-pkg1.run ??! [09:13] ??? [09:14] why is there two? [09:14] just pick either one [09:15] ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/180.51/ [09:16] the *1* is 22M and *0* only 13M [09:17] OK it says "The file with the highest package number is suitable for most installations" in the readme [09:18] so its 1 [09:18] WAIT! [09:18] so I guess one is an earlier version? [09:18] I found somethign you'll like [09:18] hold on [09:19] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1136343&page=2 [09:19] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7151356#post7151356 [09:19] that last link [09:19] good find [09:19] a PPA with the latest X stuff [09:20] just add to synaptic repos list, then reload, then mark updates [09:21] nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 (180.53-0ubuntu2) jaunty; urgency=low [09:23] How about that, maybe mutual benefit here eh? So I just add "https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates" as another repo [09:24] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main [09:24] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main [09:24] add those two lines to the repo portion of synaptic [09:24] I just did it [09:25] under 3rd party software? [09:25] Presumably that will automatically update 180.44 then? [09:25] yes and yes [09:26] updating mine right now [09:26] the lesson in this...search google first ;) [09:26] Would you allow me some time to wait for your confirmation it works?! [09:26] np [09:26] I have searched heaps! [09:27] The ket is the search phrase! [09:27] key... [09:27] nvidia installer 180.51 9.04 [09:27] That was my search phrase [09:27] first link was gold [09:27] needless to say I did not use that one! [09:27] :P [09:28] *** wonders where there is a hole to crawl into.... [09:29] How come you did all the alpha installs? [09:29] Are you a contributing developer? [09:29] no [09:30] sometimes I like to be on the bleeding edge [09:30] the Alpha stuff is never bad for me [09:30] since it usually just picks up from the last stable release [09:30] Which city are you and what technology are you pulling down? [09:30] http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu [09:31] "what technology are you pulling down?"? I don't understand? [09:32] driver updated without a hitch [09:33] Well at a guess I'd say you are not using DVB-T [09:33] to be sure I 'll have to reload the driver, adn that would mean rebooting or reinserting the kernel driver, which I don't want to do rightnow [09:33] no [09:33] analog cable [09:33] PVR-150 [09:33] still kicking [09:34] Yes they are easy to set up, not like our HD stuff..... [09:35] ok. let me change drivers [09:35] brb [09:40] Technophil, like a charm [09:40] So you're running 180.51 now?! [09:41] Well here we go....LOL [09:41] cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version [09:41] NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module 180.53 Tue Apr 21 23:14:29 PDT 2009 [09:41] 180.53 [09:41] ;) [09:42] Hmmm it complains about the public key, [09:42] I suppose I can ignore? [09:42] don't worry about that [09:43] yes ignore [09:43] http://blog.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu [09:43] Kewl, loooks like I can just select 180.53 and it automatically deals with 180.44 [09:45] http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/ubuntu-script-to-automatically-install.html [09:45] yup [09:45] the link updates launchpad keys [09:45] you will need to reboot after driver update [09:46] i did not because I just droppped to CLi and rmod nvidia [09:46] and then modprobe nvidia [09:46] then nvidia-xconfig [09:46] sorry to interrupt, but i'm triyng to mount the 1st drive (40GB HD) from here: http://pastebin.com/d4bacdc57 by running "mount /dev/sda /media/backup" and it says "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" [09:46] then restarted gdm [09:46] FPSDavid, your issue is beyond the scope of this support channel [09:46] oh... [09:47] thanks [09:47] you don't possess a fundemantal undestanding of your issue, which means, you have a lot of reading to do [09:47] best to just reinstall [09:47] im about to reinstall [09:47] but i wanna backup my files [09:47] I'm sorry man [09:47] back up to an external drive? [09:48] i dont have an external drive [09:48] i plugged in a 2nd HD [09:48] hey guys, i seem to be having a problem with getting mythtv/mythbuntu working, i can seem to log onto the SQL server, IE, it's not running and i cant figuer out how to get in running (yes i am very new linux) [09:48] Selva, ther eis a fix, but being new, may complicate the issue [09:49] i cant* seem to log into the SQL server [09:49] ahh kk.... do i have to manually run the server? or should it automatically run? [09:49] FPSDavid, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty [09:49] read the part about mounting drives [09:49] Selva, it has to be configured [09:50] Selva, dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server [09:50] excuse me [09:50] k [09:50] Selva, sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server [09:50] at the command line [09:50] darthanubis, all it says is "mount /dev/whatever" "umount /dev/whatever" [09:51] keep reading [09:51] i still see no mention of filesystem types [09:51] in cli type man mount [09:51] google man mount [09:51] googel mount [09:51] i see that -t is type [09:52] but how do i know what type my drive is [09:52] it just says Linux,Extended,Swap [09:52] gah.... hang on, seems mysql has gone walk about... i think i may have accidently uninstalled it :( [09:52] *fail* [09:52] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1133365 [09:53] FPSDavid, give it up. Chalk it up to a learning experience. [09:53] darthanubis: Installed. Just reboot? (I'm on separate PC) [09:53] darthanubis...no [09:53] yes [09:53] thats dumb [09:53] ok Dave [09:53] it'd be a learning experience if i figured it out, not if i gave up [09:54] sometimes we have to go back to the drawing board [09:54] I like your spirit, but you are not advanced enough for this project. [09:54] is it really that hard to tell me what command to run so i can copy my files and start over on the other drive [09:55] You are trying to add a spare drive to copy your media over to it before a cleaninstall. [09:55] Yes, it is [09:55] if i started over, i'd lose like 50GB of movies and music [09:55] You'd learn nothing that way if I just gave you the cmds [09:56] but even if I gave you the cmds you don't know how/when/where to execute them [09:56] I have to know thaat the spare drive is connected and the address eg. /dev/sda? [09:56] i already have the /media/backup directory made, chmod'd to 777 [09:56] /dev/sdb? [09:56] ok [09:56] i linked http://pastebin.com/d4bacdc57 [09:56] so now mount that drive [09:56] its /dev/sda [09:57] sda is the spare? [09:57] yeah, apaprently so [09:57] it looks liek there is a linux install on it [09:57] there is lol [09:57] looks like linux is installed on both sda and sdb? [09:57] i dont need/want it though, i was planning on mounting and deleting everything off sdb [09:57] yeah, they both have mythbuntu on them, but sdb hasnt been used in a year or two [09:58] deleting everything off sda* [09:58] the 40gb [09:59] Well rebooted.....damn! Fonts more corrupted on the mythbuntu main menu. Musc a edt and some numebrs super sick. [09:59] Technophil: Please watch your language. [10:00] the plan was: mount 40GB, copy movies/music to 40GB, clean install on 250GB, copy files back from 40GB to 250GB, remove 40GB [10:00] stuck @ part1, the rest shoudl be easy [10:02] all i really need to know is how to find out what type it is so i can put it in w/ -t [10:02] but it is 180.53 [10:03] FPSDavid, firget type just mount [10:04] you need to format the whole drive first [10:04] use cfdisk [10:04] sudo cfdisk /dev/sda [10:04] Technophil, you've got other issues [10:04] yep! [10:04] brb [10:07] Mmmm nvidia-180-modaliases is still 180.44 but upgrade also there for 180.53 [10:07] updating.... [10:09] ok back [10:09] nvidia-settings is 180.25 but no later version offered (ignoring [10:09] i deleted the partitions, made a new one that took up the whole disc [10:10] and when i went to "Write" it said "Failed to mount "41G volume" org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-fixedauth_admin_keep_always <-- (action, result)" [10:10] google? [10:12] i'm giving up until tomorrow [10:12] thx guys [10:12] sorry man [10:12] Sorry your issue os out of my league! [10:13] np [10:13] darthanubis, looks like that modaliases upgrade fixed it, no corrupt fonts now so far... [10:14] sweet [10:14] ffox is ok [10:14] :) [10:14] gotta luv them PPAs [10:15] Gotta love the linux world generally, it is sooo kewl... [10:15] especially when you figure out the last job you've been working on for.... [10:15] LOL [10:15] that it is! [10:16] Have you had enough, or are you game for more?! [10:16] I like trying to help the community [10:16] After all you've done well! [10:16] bring it [10:16] Well I am pleased you learned something too! [10:16] Actually there is a saying.... [10:16] See one, do one, teach one.... [10:17] You are benifitting from my past frustrations [10:17] And it is only when you start teaching that you really start learning! [10:18] Well I'll cascade it on too, I trust thats how you'd have it... [10:18] :) [10:18] OK here goes.... [10:18] Configuring NVIDIA to drive a HD Component monitor (TV) [10:19] have not done that before, but I'm reading go ahead [10:19] I have a CRT HD TV here that takes HD component and a 1080p monitor for the desktop [10:19] From what I've read i need to revise xorg.conf [10:20] nvtv - tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux [10:20] When one install mythbuntu there is an optoini to select component there, however sees pointless to me till the intended drivers are in place...so I ignored that [10:21] bad idea? [10:21] you mean I should have selected? [10:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872130 [10:22] read that [10:22] while I roll my cigarette [10:22] * darthanubis yeah cigarette [10:23] LOL [10:23] ha [10:23] ;) [10:24] well that article did not apply [10:24] might do further down the line.... [10:24] once I have it working. [10:25] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/NVIDIA_Component_Out [10:25] I got a 8.10 back end here, can I use a 9.04 FE on a 8.10 BE? [10:25] yes [10:26] That link covers your query [10:27] darthanubis: You've been a fantastic help, I need to play with this, I'll be ok doing that, I wish you a big thank you. [10:27] my pleasure [10:28] If you know anyone who uses windows I might be able to arrange a small token of thanks... Hope the offer's not rude...LOL [10:28] My GF uses windows [10:28] for Photoshop [10:28] Does she need to be reminded to take breaks? [10:29] lol, soemtimes [10:29] Well if she wants a free license to "break reminder" I can arrange.... [10:29] I have a windwos free app for you [10:30] http://www.highgrow.us/ [10:30] get your botany on! [10:31] LOL Sounds like a claytons drug! [10:31] Did you ever have claytons your way? [10:31] Claytons "The drink you have when you're not having a drink"!!! [10:31] ? [10:31] never heard of it [10:31] probably no longer available [10:32] are you in the US? [10:32] New Zealand! [10:32] ah [10:32] you play poker? [10:32] maybe we can play sometime? [10:33] sudo apt-get install pokerth [10:33] great game [10:33] ppl form all over the world [10:33] Well if your GF is interested in that software or any software at cheqsoft.com tell her to seek a license using your name. [10:33] sweet! [10:34] so the poker is "net"worked [10:34] Sorry thats a question! [10:35] *** cranking google.... [10:35] yes [10:35] http://cheqsoft.com/mathsown.html [10:35] I liek that [10:35] but with linux, all these apps are included [10:35] I have linux on my sons machine [10:35] 4 machines with ubuntu on them [10:36] One soley runs Windows7 [10:36] Problem is acknowledged and accepted! [10:36] 5 pcs [10:36] Sorry it does only W.... [10:36] Might be a web version one day that does all OS [10:37] I know it works really well! [10:39] OK found the screen shots, looks really kewl [10:40] I guess you hang out here time to time? [10:42] My daughter loves games, I'll show the game to her. I expect she'll be keen. How do we pull you in? [10:54] Technophil, yes I hang out here [10:57] IThat PPA tutorial is really good.... [10:57] I've been trying for weeks to sort this video card, again a big thank you! [10:58] np your video is perfect now right? [11:00] FOnts all perfect now. I do have a funny grey rectangle on the desktop that seems to have come from no where..... [11:00] Hmmm [11:01] do you have an lcd? [11:01] About 3/4 inch by 3 inches, left of the mthytv [11:01] Yes its on an LCD [11:01] LCD is on VGA, 1080p 22" [11:01] press the "auto" on the monitor? [11:02] do you have a DVI cable? [11:02] yep [11:02] use it [11:02] i mean yep to DVI [11:03] I did the auto image adjust thing, also power off and on, still there. [11:04] you using Gnome? Or default mythbuntu? [11:04] I guess you are saying DVI is technically better and mroe reliable? [11:04] Xfce? [11:04] yes [11:04] mythbuntu which I think is Xfce [11:04] yeah [11:04] I used to use XFCE [11:05] on my low power machines [11:05] I have four mythbuntu boxes connected thru a KVM switch. [11:05] At least while I am setting them up for distribution arounsd the house... [11:05] When its presentable to the girls... [11:06] My main box is my mythtv server [11:06] The thing is the other 3 work reliably using the same screen and switch. [11:06] It is Ubuntu with mythtv installed [11:06] same video vard? [11:06] card? [11:06] No [11:06] well there u go [11:07] The others are stable, 5200, 7600 and a 8500 [11:07] this is a PCI 9400, good idea, lots of trouble, but then it may just because its so bleeding edge in the driver score... [11:07] pull up a term and run nvidia-settings [11:08] is using putty ok or did I need did it on the box for what you got in mind? [11:08] nah it should work fine [11:08] no [11:08] CLI [11:08] COMMAND LINEINTERFACE [11:08] TERMINAL [11:09] oops [11:09] sorry about those caps [11:09] No worries! [11:09] Is it OK to run that outside the mythbuntu control centre? [11:09] it's dark and i can't type [11:09] yes [11:09] goto accesories in the menu I believe [11:10] if you can see the desktop [11:10] Got it [11:10] nvidia-settings [11:11] OK opens the same NVIDIA control window [11:11] double click what I type then move cursor to terminal, and press down on the mouse wheel [11:11] ok now adjust settings to your likin [11:12] they are generally good [11:12] is the desktop off center? [11:13] Ahh my IRC is on a windows box.... pigin [11:14] Desktop on the LCD seems perfect in terms of placement. The TV is underscanning 15% (I think its under) [11:14] you use the mythtv frontend settup options for that [11:15] Ahhh, I wondered how people sorted thsat as I understand many TV's need fixing... [11:16] What do you mean what you type? [11:17]