| blizzz | they fly again! | 00:04 |
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| BUGabundo | hi | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/171037/ known prob on karmic? | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/status/meeting-organizer.png', which is also in package libkdepim4 | 00:44 |
| Riddell | yes | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | ok Riddell | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | workaround ? | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | I would like to install ubuntu one | 00:45 |
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| tsimpson | use dpkg manually | 00:45 |
| BUGabundo | tsimpson: can you provide full command? | 00:45 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2_all.deb | 00:46 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 00:46 |
| tsimpson | you really should know this if you're running karmic..., but "sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2_all.deb" | 00:46 |
| BUGabundo | reading $ dpkg --force-help | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | tsimpson: I usually just wait for it to get fixed, or copy if from somewhere | 00:48 |
| BUGabundo | I know, I look a lame alpha tester | 00:48 |
| BUGabundo | I can work around pleanty of stuff and would eventually reach that too | 00:49 |
| tsimpson | if you want to test alpha releases, get intimate with dpkg ;) | 00:50 |
| BUGabundo | man apt is big enough | 00:50 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 00:50 |
| BUGabundo | thanks tsimpson. workarounded | 00:51 |
| tsimpson | --force-overwrite helped a lot when we were packaging KDE4 for the first time, files kept moving around packages appearing and disappearing | 00:52 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 00:56 |
| BUGabundo | I remmeber | 00:56 |
| BUGabundo | I kept filing bugs | 00:57 |
| BUGabundo | special on kdepim | 00:57 |
| BUGabundo | and I still have one to file | 00:57 |
| nalioth | any ideas on my reported issue? http://pastebin.ca/1421090 and http://pastebin.ca/1418697 | 01:12 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: in kde-style-qtcurve can I bump kdelibs5-dev from 4.0.80 to 4.2.2 ? | 02:11 |
| JontheEchidna | doesn't matter that much really | 02:13 |
| ScottK | lex79: I didn't get that since I changed my xorg config. | 02:14 |
| lex79 | ScottK: intel, right? | 02:14 |
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| ScottK | lex79: Yes. | 02:20 |
| lex79 | nvidia here, I think your changes has no effect with my video card :( | 02:22 |
| ScottK | Probably not. | 02:25 |
| nixternal | hrmm, why does python-kde4 have build-depends on kdelibs and such? | 02:28 |
| nixternal | and kdebase-* | 02:29 |
| nixternal | what I find interesting is kdebase needs python-kde4 in order to build python support for plasma | 02:29 |
| ScottK | I don't think python-kde4 needs kdebase to build. | 02:29 |
| ScottK | kdebase-workspace does need it to build however | 02:30 |
| nixternal | no, but when you go to install just python-kde4, it brings in kdebase and such | 02:30 |
| ScottK | Runtime, sure, but not build time. | 02:30 |
| nixternal | why? | 02:30 |
| nixternal | python-kde4 shouldn't need it, and it doesn't need it | 02:30 |
| nixternal | I can build it from svn w/o kde* built at all | 02:30 |
| ScottK | Hmmm | 02:31 |
| ScottK | Dunno | 02:31 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebindings packaging is generally a bunch of commented out/hacked together mess of packaging | 02:40 |
| nixternal | our packaging is? | 02:42 |
| nixternal | fedora and opensuse have good packages | 02:42 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, our packaging is pretty pathetic | 02:43 |
| nixternal | is it because of the silly arm packaging and what not? | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | no, kdebindings is just hard in general | 02:43 |
| nixternal | hrmm, I have no problem building it from trunk | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | it sometimes doesn't even compile until the later KDE betas | 02:43 |
| JontheEchidna | you also have to take in mind that it builds/creates packages for every single language evar | 02:44 |
| JontheEchidna | it has about the largest debian/rules file for a cdbs package that I've ever seen | 02:45 |
| JontheEchidna | due to mono, of course :P | 02:45 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, it's looking a bit better these days | 02:46 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Last I heard opensuse at least didn't even build a lot of the bindings we build. | 02:47 |
| * ScottK recalls JontheEchidna crowing about that a bit ago. | 02:47 | |
| * astromme thinks Kubuntu bindings support is fantastic | 03:03 | |
| astromme | The plasma bindings are being used more and more, to the point where I would think they are required as installs. | 03:03 |
| astromme | I now have to install the python bindings on every system I use because I wrote a few convenience plasmoids for myself that use python | 03:04 |
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| seele | whoa, ruphy is a kubuntu user? | 05:49 |
| seele | i always pegged him as a suse guy | 05:49 |
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| ScottK | So I blogged Laserjock's 'system indicator' idea. I wonder if it will get any uptake. | 06:27 |
| nixternal | not from you it won't ;p | 06:28 |
| nixternal | hint hint, for upcoming kde bindings, we will need to build the snapshots of pyqt4 and sip4 | 06:28 |
| nixternal | kdebindings will not build with our current pyqt4 or sip4 | 06:28 |
| ScottK | nixternal: It's all pre-decided anyway, but I'm going to play the part in my script up to where I quit. | 06:42 |
| nixternal | lol | 06:42 |
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| nixternal | you should see how fast kdeedu builds on dual quad-core xeons | 07:11 |
| nixternal | make -j9 == supah fast | 07:11 |
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| Sput | moin | 07:37 |
| Sput | ScottK: btw, in KDE 4.3 you can hide icons in systray :) | 07:38 |
| Sput | not sure if you're aware of that feature | 07:38 |
| Sput | but I have most non-interactive and status icons hidden away and expand the tray when I need them | 07:38 |
| Sput | so my list looks about yours :) | 07:42 |
| nalioth | nixternal: none of my kde4 apps work :( | 07:43 |
| nixternal | all of mine work find :p | 07:43 |
| nixternal | !worksforme | 07:43 |
| ubottu | Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ | 07:43 |
| nixternal | what is broken with them nalioth ? | 07:44 |
| nalioth | nixternal: yeah, i dropped some pastebins in here earlier | 07:44 |
| nalioth | and yesterday | 07:44 |
| nixternal | same issues as yesterday? | 07:44 |
| nalioth | yeah, i'm finding more apps that exhibit the same behavior | 07:44 |
| nixternal | i do not get that error at all, makes no sense to me...and you get this from a fresh install? | 07:44 |
| nalioth | yessir. it's no big deal to me, i've downgraded my 'daily use' kde apps back to 3.5, but if it's happehed to me, i'm sure it's happening elsewhere (and yes, a fresh install of ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop apt-gotten) | 07:46 |
| nixternal | i just had someone install kubuntu-desktop a little while ago and it worked fine for them, that is why I don't get you having the problem | 07:46 |
| nalioth | as i have stated before, i have missed my calling as product tester. if it's weird and unrepeatable, it happens to me | 07:47 |
| nalioth | anyway, just poking you | 07:48 |
| nalioth | it's past my bedtime | 07:48 |
| nixternal | hehe, same here...need to finsih this trunk build though | 07:49 |
| * Tonio__ is pleased konversation finally work with kde4 :) | 07:49 | |
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| nixternal | I would be pleased if we just shipped irssi :p | 07:50 |
| nixternal | jeesh, kpg has become one huge repo of everything | 07:50 |
| jussi01 | hey Tonio_! | 07:52 |
| jussi01 | Tonio_: did you ever get time to look into adding th mobile broadband db to the network manager plasmoid? | 07:53 |
| nixternal | kde svn knows I want to go to sleep, that is why it is taking so long | 07:56 |
| Tonio_ | jussi01: nope :/ | 07:58 |
| jussi01 | Tonio_: ok then :) well if you get time.... :D | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | jussi01: yup, that's on the list anyway | 08:01 |
| jussi01 | Tonio_: super :) | 08:01 |
| nixternal | BUILD BABY BUILD! | 08:10 |
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| Riddell | well we have CDs today but oversized and probably not working too well | 10:05 |
| Riddell | who's brave? :) | 10:05 |
| davmor2 | Me but get ready for the respin ;) | 10:10 |
| Mamarok | is there a possibility to remove the "Upgrade to 9.04" notification without removing the update notification alltogether? | 10:14 |
| Riddell | Mamarok: from 8.10? there should be a tickbox? | 10:37 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: ok, will have a look | 10:37 |
| Mamarok | right now I'm stuck with a remote aptitude session on ssh I can't kill :( | 10:38 |
| Mamarok | looks like I will have to call them to restart the box, no idea how to do solve that one *sigh* | 10:39 |
| Mamarok | other question: is it possible that strigi is indexing since more than 10 hours? there's about 500Gb of data though... | 10:40 |
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| a|wen | Mamarok: at least killing the ssh session ... that should take aptitude down in the fall | 11:09 |
| Mamarok | a|wen: well, that was my first idea, but that didn't work :( | 11:10 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: <enter>~. | 11:10 |
| Mamarok | what would that do? | 11:11 |
| a|wen | tell ssh to abort and close the connection | 11:11 |
| a|wen | shh client-side disconnect | 11:11 |
| Mamarok | on my side you mean? can I log in again then? | 11:12 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: you can also just log in using ssh a second time, and use kill to kill aptitude | 11:13 |
| Mamarok | oh, funny, tried this several times | 11:15 |
| Mamarok | the ~. worked the second time around only | 11:15 |
| Mamarok | and aptitude is killed now | 11:15 |
| Mamarok | I tried login in and killall -9 aptitude, that didn't work then | 11:15 |
| Mamarok | a|wen: great, thanks a lot! | 11:15 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: you need to do ~. just after pressing enter ... that is why it often feels like you do it twice (you forgot pressing something else before doing ~.) | 11:16 |
| a|wen | and great :) ... that command comes in handy once in a while | 11:16 |
| Mamarok | ok, learned something new then :) | 11:16 |
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| Tonio_ | anyone to have a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=5748 please ? | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | this would be really usefull... | 12:04 |
| Tonio_ | hi agateau | 12:05 |
| Riddell | isn't the panel full enough without adding blank space? :) | 12:05 |
| JontheEchidna | Tonio_: that's going to be part of KDE 4.3 anyways | 12:18 |
| JontheEchidna | it'll be integrated into the panel controller bar | 12:18 |
| JontheEchidna | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/panelspacer/ | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: ho really ? isn't it still in playground atm ? | 12:19 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: hum great, it looks like it wasn't droped from playground :) | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: when you have a double screen, the plasmoids can react very weird | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: same if you want to add new bars | 12:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and this is the solution to this issue | 12:21 |
| Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: don't revu then | 12:21 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 12:21 |
| JontheEchidna | Technically it's not the exact same spacer, I believe it got a rewrite | 12:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: is polkit-qt new or is it split out from something we had before? | 12:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: split out from policykit-kde | 12:22 |
| Riddell | ok, I'll move it to main | 12:23 |
| Riddell | then k3b can compile | 12:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yup | 12:29 |
| a|wen | ScottK: btw. hiding the icons you don't need is already supported in KDE 4.2 | 12:34 |
| a|wen | systray icons of course ^^ | 12:36 |
| a|wen | are we planning on using graphicssystem raster as default in karmic? or is that not possible yet? | 12:37 |
| JontheEchidna | it's not possible for kwin, at least | 12:38 |
| JontheEchidna | unless you want compositing to fail | 12:38 |
| a|wen | and I guess we don't have the option of making it default for "all applications, except kwin" | 12:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I think that any of the tutorials I've seen have compiled Qt to have that by default | 12:42 |
| JontheEchidna | what we really need is for X to not suck so much :P | 12:42 |
| a|wen | heh; indeed ... but that is kind of out of our power ;) | 12:43 |
| JontheEchidna | zomg opensauce, u ken cnatribute! | 12:43 |
| * JontheEchidna hates it when people say that | 12:44 | |
| a|wen | he ... i don't think my python skills can do much there | 12:44 |
| a|wen | so i guess it makes sense to patch .desktop files to use raster in the cases where it really matters? | 12:45 |
| JontheEchidna | I would see that as a sensible solution, though you know people are going to complain when things get slow when they start things from the terminal.. | 12:45 |
| JontheEchidna | I would like you to meet my friends rock and hard place | 12:46 |
| a|wen | they sure will ... but right now they complain that it is slow unless they start from the terminal | 12:48 |
| a|wen | not easily satisfiable ;) | 12:48 |
| * JontheEchidna is loving nuno's font recommendations | 12:49 | |
| JontheEchidna | http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2009/05/kpgp-icon-and-fonts.html | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | JontheEchidna: he changed my font settings during the sprint in Berlin, looks great now! | 12:51 |
| JontheEchidna | This is even better than the results I was getting with msttcorefonts | 12:53 |
| Mamarok | no wonder, it's the specialist's advice :) | 12:54 |
| JontheEchidna | I wonder if it would make sense to make this default. (Or would we have to keep international font users in mind?) | 12:55 |
| Mamarok | need some food, bbl | 12:55 |
| Mamarok | somebody keep an eye on eaglesxxxx in #kubuntu if he comes back? | 12:55 |
| JontheEchidna | sure thing | 12:55 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: is there a big difference between dejavu sans and liberation sans; or is it the other things that makes the difference | 12:57 |
| JontheEchidna | liberation is better :P | 12:57 |
| JontheEchidna | plus the font hiniting settings matter. At first I didn't like liberation | 12:57 |
| JontheEchidna | turns out I love it once I set hinting properly | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | Mamarok: what's he doing? | 12:58 |
| a|wen | changing the hinting should be possible by default i guess ... but i have no idea how the internationalization support in liberation is | 12:58 |
| Mamarok | Hobbsee: he gives 'support' without knowing his stuff | 13:00 |
| Hobbsee | Mamarok: ah. Doesn't surprise me. | 13:00 |
| Mamarok | he has been warned, so we monitor what he is doing to prewent the worst | 13:00 |
| Mamarok | ok, food calls, later | 13:00 |
| Hobbsee | Mamarok: he's had repeated warnings, so.... | 13:00 |
| * Hobbsee keeps a watchful eye out, and avoids her assignment some more | 13:02 | |
| mcas | is there a repo with kde 4.3 beta available? | 13:11 |
| JontheEchidna | not yet, unless you count kde-nightly | 13:11 |
| mcas | ok thanks JontheEchidna | 13:11 |
| Quintasan | grr | 13:24 |
| Sput | JontheEchidna: kwin handles Qt having raster as default just fine. | 13:29 |
| JontheEchidna | not if you're compositing, at least that's what the kwin dudes said | 13:30 |
| Sput | yes even with compositing | 13:30 |
| Sput | kwin enforces the native backend | 13:30 |
| JontheEchidna | aah, that must be new | 13:30 |
| Sput | I've been running raster as default for months now :) | 13:30 |
| Sput | no, it took them a week or so past Qt 4.5 to fix that | 13:31 |
| JontheEchidna | well, we've not been running trunk at kubuntu, so it's new for us | 13:31 |
| Sput | I'd be surprised if that wasn't backported to 4.2 | 13:32 |
| Sput | but I can't say for sure | 13:32 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Sure, but most of them I'd rather be one level of indirection away than gone completely or appear when needed. | 13:32 |
| Sput | ScottK: hidden icons are one level of indirection away | 13:32 |
| Sput | there's a nice little extender icon :) | 13:32 |
| ScottK | Sput: Ah. Nice. | 13:33 |
| a|wen | hehe; that was what i tried to point at :) | 13:35 |
| a|wen | and i think we should be able to distribute a lost if "default hidden icons" in kubuntu-default-settings if we want to do that | 13:35 |
| a|wen | s/lost/list/ | 13:35 |
| rgreening | anyone else seeing this xmessage popup? "Could not start ksmserver". If I click ok, my session restarts and drops me back to login screen. | 13:36 |
| a|wen | keeps happening? | 13:38 |
| a|wen | i think i got it once (though the restart happened without having to click ok) ... but worked second time | 13:40 |
| a|wen | rgreening: ^^ | 13:40 |
| rgreening | a|wen: it happens often enough. | 13:50 |
| rgreening | I just booted up, opened a few apps and the pop-up is there now... | 13:50 |
| rgreening | if I close it, adios.. | 13:50 |
| a|wen | so didn't happen during login | 13:50 |
| a|wen | that was what it did in my case | 13:50 |
| rgreening | nope, sometime after | 13:50 |
| a|wen | never has that happen then | 13:51 |
| rgreening | rgreening@atlantis:~$ ksmserver | 13:51 |
| rgreening | Could not register with D-BUS. Aborting. | 13:51 |
| rgreening | I can't even restart ksmserver | 13:51 |
| jussi01 | rgreening: do you not have a cloak? o.O | 13:52 |
| rgreening | nope | 13:52 |
| jussi01 | rgreening: any reason? they are easy enough to organise...? | 13:52 |
| jussi01 | or do you just not care...? :D | 13:53 |
| rgreening | jussi01: never took the time energy | 13:53 |
| rgreening | :P | 13:53 |
| jussi01 | rgreening: heh, if youve got your nick setup right, than its just a matter of asking... | 13:53 |
| rgreening | a|wen: tried killing ksmserver to restart. that killed the session. bah. | 13:59 |
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| rgreening | a|wen: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3103693.0 | 14:02 |
| rgreening | seems Im not the only one... | 14:02 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: just saw policykit-kde ftbfs.... weird since the package comes from my ppa... | 14:24 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I suspect another pkg-kde-tool weird issue, as for polkit-qt.... | 14:24 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: 4.3b1 is that? | 14:43 |
| Riddell | policykit-kde says it's missing libpolkit-qt, that's nothing to do with pkg-kde-tools | 14:44 |
| Riddell | what do you mean "another" anyway, what issues have we had with pkg-kde-tools? | 14:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: polkit-qt ftbfs with pkg-kde-tool and works with standard kde4.mk.... weird but that's it | 14:51 |
| Tonio_ | hum k3b ftbfs too... | 14:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: polkkit-qt is installed as a build-dep... I suspect there is something wrong with the packaging... no idea why | 14:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: all those packages are available and built correctly on my jaunty ppa... that's not packaging issue | 14:52 |
| Riddell | jaunty != karmic | 14:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yeah I know... | 14:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but... | 14:54 |
| Tonio_ | Found Polkit-qt: /usr/lib/libpolkit-qt-core.so;/usr/lib/libpolkit-qt-gui.so | 14:55 |
| Tonio_ | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libpolkit-qt-core.so', needed by `lib/kcm_k3bsetup.so'. Stop. | 14:55 |
| Tonio_ | that's weird..... | 14:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that ressembles a lot the issue I had with | 14:55 |
| Tonio_ | with polkit-qt (but this one concerned policykit directly...) | 14:56 |
| Riddell | you're right though, polkit-qt does fail with pkg-kde-tools | 14:56 |
| Riddell | -DKDE4_ENABLE_FINAL=false I wonder if that's the difference | 14:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep, all of this is weird, really :) I'll investigate, we have time | 14:57 |
| Nightrose | a|wen: just tried to install the network manager applet and i get a few of those: plasma-widget-network-manager depends on libqtcore4 (>= 4.5.1); however: | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | Version of libqtcore4 on system is 4.5.0-0ubuntu4. | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | build against too new Qt? | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | (downloaded from kubuntu-experimental ppa) | 15:51 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, Qt 4.5.1 is also in experimental, so it probably got built against it | 15:51 |
| Nightrose | not good then | 15:51 |
| Nightrose | can't test it here then | 15:51 |
| Nightrose | and I am not sure when i'll have wifi again soonish | 15:52 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: hate to bother you but I want to finish it --> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-pgame | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | looks good now, advocated | 16:32 |
| Quintasan | thanks | 16:34 |
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| ScottK | Is OOo-KDE just dropped for Alpha 1 or is it gone completely? | 17:20 |
| Quintasan | hmm it's just me or Lancelot has borked scrolling? | 17:24 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I'd like to see it back | 17:40 |
| nixternal | JontheEchidna: what do I need to do in order to get the weather wallpaper working? | 17:41 |
| Riddell | it's dropped from Debian I believe but I think we should keep it, OO unthemed looks horrible | 17:41 |
| nixternal | +1 Riddell | 17:41 |
| Riddell | of course nixternal might port it to KDE 4 tonight :) | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: the plugin and the wallpapers from kdeartwork | 17:41 |
| nixternal | working on it...and I must say, it is not fun at all | 17:41 |
| Riddell | trouble is we only have 20% of an OO maintainer just now, calc is mostly away | 17:41 |
| nixternal | ok, I have them all installed, I can select my location and what not, but the wallpapers don't show or don't change | 17:41 |
| JontheEchidna | any interesting stuff in konsole? | 17:42 |
| nixternal | what should I do in konsole to check it? | 17:43 |
| Riddell | ** new alternate alpha candidate CDs need testing | 17:43 |
| JontheEchidna | run plasma-desktop in konsole | 17:43 |
| Riddell | (may explode your system, be careful, virtual machine advised) | 17:43 |
| nixternal | hrmm, invalid D-Bus interface name for 'org.kde.plasma-desktop.PlasmaApp' | 17:43 |
| JontheEchidna | not related, I don't think | 17:45 |
| nixternal | ok, figured that out...let me read through all of this and see if I can find something | 17:46 |
| JontheEchidna | the current weather should print out in konsole, as well as the wallpaper name | 17:47 |
| JontheEchidna | if the weather dataengine gives us a wallpaper, that is | 17:47 |
| nixternal | ya, it doesn't | 17:47 |
| JontheEchidna | s/wallpaper/condition | 17:47 |
| nixternal | that invalid dbus error is what Image::setSingleImage and the Air wallpaper | 17:48 |
| nixternal | so it seems my setting didn't tak | 17:48 |
| nixternal | take | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, it looks like you're using the Image wallpaper? | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | strange | 17:48 |
| nixternal | lol | 17:48 |
| nixternal | it didn't take | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, that'd do it | 17:48 |
| nixternal | OK, I see weather info now, but it says "weather-none-available"....dangit it is raining, I want to see the pretty pictures :p | 17:53 |
| JontheEchidna | what weather provider are you using? | 17:54 |
| nixternal | NOAA | 17:54 |
| JontheEchidna | the current NOAA ion doesn't return weather conditions as icons, which is what the weather wallpaper uses to determine which wallpaper to use | 17:54 |
| JontheEchidna | as a result the weather plasmoid doesn't have icons, and the wallpaper doesn't work period :( | 17:55 |
| nixternal | well then | 17:55 |
| JontheEchidna | because I'm not about to try to map out the 200 text condition strings that the NOAA provides, lol | 17:55 |
| nixternal | haha, that's why you should use weather.com and not noaa | 17:55 |
| nixternal | noaa is not for the lazy :p weather.com is | 17:55 |
| JontheEchidna | The wallpaper doesn't implement any weather-getting stuff itself | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | it uses whatever weather providers the user has installed | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | I think that plasma might be getting a wetter.de provider soon | 17:56 |
| nixternal | so what you are saying is that in the US we are screwed with the weather wallpaper? | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | and some other oen | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | I found a town close to me with the BBC one | 17:56 |
| JontheEchidna | (Manchester, New Hapmshire, USA) | 17:57 |
| nixternal | ooh, BBC has Chicago | 17:57 |
| nixternal | groovy | 17:57 |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 17:57 |
| nixternal | damnit, the noaa one did work | 17:57 |
| astromme | I don't have a weather.com provider? is there some special package? | 18:10 |
| astromme | I have BBC, enviro canada and NOAA | 18:11 |
| nixternal | there is no weather.com provider (yet?) | 18:11 |
| astromme | hmm | 18:15 |
| astromme | nixternal: I wonder if that is because of some restriction or if it's just because nobody has done it yet | 18:15 |
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| nixternal | astromme: nobody has done it yet | 18:21 |
| Quintasan | http://imagebin.ca/view/7WmWEuX.html <-- I wonder is missing scrollbar in lancelot a know issue | 18:22 |
| Quintasan | s/is/if | 18:22 |
| jussi01 | Quintasan: I asked about it a while back and someone said it waas - its real frustrating thouhg | 18:23 |
| Quintasan | I wonder why I can't find any bug reports for it :/ | 18:23 |
| jussi01 | Quintasan: I was assured there was one, so didnt bother reporting it. perhaps its worth doing anyway | 18:24 |
| rgreening | we should do a side by side comparison to get a baseline and ask seele for usability suggestions too | 18:29 |
| rgreening | oops.. wrong chan | 18:29 |
| seele | rgreening: ? | 18:31 |
| rgreening | seele: scottk was asking about ayatana and I suggested we need to have a review of KDE 4.3 at UDS . | 18:32 |
| seele | ah | 18:35 |
| rgreening | :) | 18:36 |
| * Sput hopes KOffice will be able to completely replace OOo for me in the not-too-distant future | 19:18 | |
| * Sput really doesn't like all the bloat | 19:19 | |
| emonkey | +1 | 19:20 |
| Sput | basically I need to be able to open .doc files :) | 19:20 |
| Riddell | kword has always done that | 19:21 |
| Sput | ... in a way that they're actually readable | 19:23 |
| Sput | tbh I haven't tested kword in quite a while, but last time it was still not good enough | 19:23 |
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| ScottK | For me writing them in a way that the look correct to the MS Office users I mail them to is more important than how they look to me. | 19:48 |
| ScottK | Is there a way to coerce Kmail into not deleting meeting invitations when I accept them? | 19:55 |
| txwikinger_work | talking about notifications... | 19:59 |
| * txwikinger_work is tired of being notified in all kinds of sections of the screen | 19:59 | |
| nixternal | everyone can read .txt files | 19:59 |
| nixternal | if it needs to be pretty, LaTeX -> PDF | 19:59 |
| txwikinger_work | nixternal: LaTeX ->ps please | 20:00 |
| txwikinger_work | PDF is not free | 20:00 |
| nixternal | no ps | 20:00 |
| nixternal | dvi | 20:00 |
| nixternal | there! | 20:00 |
| txwikinger_work | ok.. dvi is fine :) | 20:00 |
| nixternal | actually PDF is free now I thought | 20:00 |
| txwikinger_work | since when? | 20:00 |
| nixternal | since Adobe released its grip | 20:00 |
| nixternal | I swore I read/heard that somewhere | 20:01 |
| nixternal | ya, 2007 Adobe submitted the PDF format to ISO to make it an open standard | 20:02 |
| txwikinger_work | ah ok | 20:02 |
| txwikinger_work | no patents or anything? | 20:02 |
| nixternal | no patents, published as an open format July 1, 2008 | 20:03 |
| nixternal | ISO 32000-1:2008 | 20:03 |
| astromme | is 4.3 beta1 something I should expect in a reasonable timeframe as a ppa for Kubuntu? | 20:08 |
| astromme | which was a cryptic way of saying "ya'll have plans for 4.3b1?" :P | 20:08 |
| neversfelde | hehe :) | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Depends somewhat on your definition of reasonable. | 20:21 |
| rgreening | astromme: we are packageing it up now. lots has changed. so, yes.. but as ScottK says... depends on def of reasonable :) | 20:40 |
| astromme | rgreening: sounds good :) Reasonable means "before I break down and find a decent way to run trunk myself" | 20:41 |
| rgreening | lol. yeah.. should be before that I assume | 20:41 |
| astromme | one of these days I need to come up with a good way of running stable KDE but having trunk mode that I can switch into | 20:42 |
| astromme | Without all of those ugly scripts that I have no idea how they work | 20:42 |
| ScottK | rgreening: I you going to be bringing a system running KDE 4.3 to UDS? | 21:06 |
| ScottK | I/Are | 21:07 |
| ScottK | Urgh | 21:07 |
| rgreening | Hopefully. | 21:07 |
| rgreening | Most likely I'll have it on my AcerOne | 21:07 |
| rgreening | assuming we get the backports done... | 21:08 |
| rgreening | in time. | 21:08 |
| rgreening | ScottK: what does this warning mean... "dpkg-genchanges: warning: duplicate files list entry for file" and is it bad... | 21:09 |
| ScottK | IIRC it means you are trying to install the same file more than once and yes. | 21:10 |
| ScottK | grep your debian dir for the filename in question. | 21:10 |
| ScottK | I bet you find it in two .install files. | 21:10 |
| Sput | ScottK: btw, kwallet can be configured that it doesn't show a tray icon at all | 21:12 |
| rgreening | I think it just buggered up. I diffed two install files and no common entries... strange | 21:12 |
| * ScottK looks for a setting. | 21:12 | |
| Sput | since many people say that icon is utterly useless, I wonder why that isn't default :) | 21:12 |
| JontheEchidna | I always turn kwallet's tray icon off first thing | 21:12 |
| rgreening | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/171900/ | 21:13 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Sounds like a sane default to me. | 21:13 |
| * JontheEchidna makes a mental note to make it so for karmic | 21:13 | |
| ScottK | rgreening: What is in those line numbers of the files list and are they the same? | 21:14 |
| rgreening | ScottK: for starters, there is no kdebase.install | 21:15 |
| rgreening | so, I am at a loss there... | 21:15 |
| ScottK | Odd. | 21:16 |
| rgreening | kdebase is the meta package in the control file | 21:16 |
| ScottK | I think it means you are installing the same file multiple times, but don't have great advice on troubleshooting | 21:16 |
| JontheEchidna | looks like multimedia's going to compile fine :) | 21:16 |
| * JontheEchidna runs list-missing | 21:17 | |
| JontheEchidna | whoa, only one new file!? | 21:17 |
| * Sput updates KDE trunk on all his boxen today | 21:17 | |
| rgreening | ScottK: it seems something in the system buggered up... not the packages from what I can see. | 21:18 |
| maco | Sput: on the topic of things in tray....is there a way to turn off quassel's? | 21:43 |
| Sput | maco: yes, we have a setting for that | 21:44 |
| * maco looks again | 21:44 | |
| Sput | maco: Configure -> Misc | 21:46 |
| maco | ah, ok didnt realize i could click on "misc" | 21:46 |
| maco | thought i could only click what was under misc | 21:46 |
| maco | i just found the "hide inactive buffers" checkbox too | 21:47 |
| Sput | fun, we added that ability to click on categories after seele asked us for it :) | 21:47 |
| maco | ^_^ | 21:47 |
| maco | i think seele knows i have a policy of spending as little time as possible inside the settings menu of kde apps | 21:47 |
| maco | i just go with defaults unless i really need to find something inside the settings. and then since i never looked at the settings before, i dont know where anything is, and i get lost *shrug* | 21:48 |
| jussi01 | Sput: also, is right clickability of nicks in the chatview in your radar at all? | 21:50 |
| Sput | it is | 21:51 |
| jussi01 | excellent | 21:51 |
| maco | after finding that i can hide inactive ones, now i'm not so sure i'll be switching back to irssi when they fix their ipv6 support | 21:51 |
| Sput | :) | 21:51 |
| maco | though netsplit detection is still something i miss, especially with how freenode's been lately | 21:51 |
| Sput | yes, that's on our radar too though | 21:52 |
| maco | i saw on the bug someone said that figuring out the last of the quits and joins was a problem | 21:52 |
| Sput | right now I need to figure out why Qt claims isVisible() == false for a mainwindow that is clearly visible though. | 21:52 |
| maco | and after luciddfox and i were talking about i said "but irssi can do it!" so she added that to the bug | 21:52 |
| Sput | maco: I think that can be handled after all | 21:52 |
| Sput | just haven't found the time to actually look into the issue | 21:53 |
| Sput | but since it seems to be standard to display the server name in the quit message, it should be doable to detect that | 21:53 |
| Sput | a bitch to test though :) | 21:53 |
| Sput | probably will have to hire somebody who ddoses freenode when I need testing | 21:54 |
| ScottK | Sput: Doesn't that just happen naturally on a regular basis? | 21:55 |
| jussi01 | Sput: Im sure I can find you sme malicious trolls - we have enough of them in -ops :P | 21:55 |
| Sput | hehe :) | 21:56 |
| maco | yeah jake says he's gonna DOS freenode if his IPs aren't unbanned | 21:56 |
| Sput | note to self: QMainWindow certainly reports it's invisible in its dtor. *headdesk* | 22:00 |
| Sput | maybe I should save state when there still is state to save :) | 22:00 |
| JontheEchidna | Ha, awesome: http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2009/05/13/linux-and-firefox-market-share/ | 22:18 |
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| a|wen | Nightrose: read the mail sent to kubuntu-devel ;) ... in my personal PPA there is a version built against qt4.5.0 and kde4.2.2 https://launchpad.net/~andreas-wenning/+archive/experimental | 22:30 |
| Nightrose | a|wen: meh :D | 22:30 |
| Nightrose | thx | 22:30 |
| a|wen | heh; of course we've thought about that :) | 22:30 |
| JontheEchidna | Konversation just moved to extragear :) | 23:50 |
| Riddell | from playground? | 23:50 |
| ScottK | Does that mean they have to release with 4.3? | 23:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: branches/work | 23:53 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: extragear isn't tied to releases necessarily, see amarok | 23:53 |
| ScottK | Right | 23:54 |
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