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BUGabundo191MiBs updates... that's going to take a while00:18
BUGabundodamn kde libs bug!!!00:33
BUGabundoI want to install stuff00:33
kklimonda:)00:34
BUGabundonot funy00:35
BUGabundodo you know how to fix it?00:35
kklimondasorry, i don't use kde at all00:35
kklimondado you get broken dependencies/packages held back?00:36
BUGabundoyep00:36
BUGabundokklimonda: got a good link for kdebase-runtime00:37
BUGabundo?00:37
BUGabundoso I can get the old one back00:37
kklimondakdebase-runtime (4:4.2.2-1ubuntu5) ?00:38
pwnguineven the /win 1300:38
BUGabundolet me try something I always tell ppl no to00:39
BUGabundo$ sudo apt-get install -f00:39
BUGabundodpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2_all.deb (--unpack):00:39
kklimondahehe00:39
BUGabundoba00:39
BUGabundobah00:40
BUGabundonot even -f00:40
geniiBUGabundo: Can be it's corrupted. I'd rm it from archives and re-run the command00:40
BUGabundo/var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2_all.deb00:40
BUGabundolet me try00:40
BUGabundodownloading 19MiBs00:41
BUGabundosheee00:41
BUGabundo trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/oxygen/16x16/status/meeting-organizer.png', which is also in package libkdepim400:42
BUGabundosame thing00:42
BUGabundoseems several package pack the same imabge00:42
BUGabundolet me ask on #kubuntu-devel00:43
BUGabundoknown at kubuntu devs00:45
kklimonda:)00:46
BUGabundo$ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2_all.deb00:46
BUGabundolol00:46
BUGabundoreading $ dpkg --force-help00:47
geniiBUGabundo: --force-overwrite    likely00:50
BUGabundoyep00:50
BUGabundo(12:46:53 AM) tsimpson: you really should know this if you're running karmic..., but "sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.2.85-0ubuntu2_all.deb"00:50
BUGabundogot slapped on my hears for being a bad alpha tester00:50
BUGabundoLOL00:50
kklimonda:)00:52
BUGabundo$ sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-client01:03
BUGabundoI don't think I have any more space for another applet01:04
ienorandI wonder, is the openoffice update ever going to come though?01:07
thiebaudehi guys01:08
BUGabundoienorand: I have it on queue to install01:08
* ienorand waves ate thiebaude01:09
ienorandOh my, what a mistype...01:09
thiebaudewhats wrong with openoffice?01:10
ienorandhttp://www.mibbit.com/pb/X1gYca << I don't like the look of that...01:11
thiebaudeyea, i see what you mean01:13
thiebaudei'll hold off on those01:13
* maxb is more than a bit confused. The hal update mysteriously changed my keymap on one machine but not another01:13
kklimondaBUGabundo: you got an invitation already? :)01:24
BUGabundoyep01:25
BUGabundoI requested It on the site01:25
kklimondanice - care to share some thoughts about it?01:25
kklimondawhen?01:25
BUGabundoand then asked about it on #ubuntuone01:25
BUGabundoand got approved01:25
BUGabundoQUICK01:25
BUGabundojust 1 or 2 hours ago01:25
BUGabundokklimonda: it's a poor DropBox clone01:25
kklimondaBUGabundo: it's open!! ;)01:25
BUGabundountil they add all wishels and bells01:25
kklimondaBUGabundo: aren't they trying to create something like mobile me?01:26
BUGabundoDP is better01:26
BUGabundodunno01:26
kklimondaBUGabundo: did they approve it because of the fact you got a membership?01:26
BUGabundomaybe01:26
BUGabundonot sure01:26
kklimonda;)01:26
BUGabundodo I already have the cloack?01:26
* BUGabundo starts to enjoy Member Powers!01:26
kklimondai don't think so ;)01:26
kklimonda:D01:26
BUGabundowant an invite?01:27
kklimondayeah - i'd like to check it out01:27
kklimondamaybe it would be worth writing few words on my "blog" ;)01:27
BUGabundojust a sec01:27
BUGabundofiling a few bugs on it01:28
BUGabundoeheh01:28
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/37576201:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 375762 in ubuntuone-client "Refreshing My Files view" [Undecided,New]01:29
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/37576201:29
BUGabundohey bot... not far being faster then me01:29
BUGabundohttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/36627101:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 366271 in ubuntuone-client "The ubuntuone client should allow you to track revisions of files" [Wishlist,Triaged]01:30
Pici!offtopic01:31
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!01:31
BUGabundokklimonda: send me your email on pvt01:31
BUGabundoso I can try to invite you01:32
BUGabundoPici: sorry01:32
* BUGabundo mutes on U101:32
thiebaude1bug 375253 is fixed for me02:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 375253 in nautilus "Nautilus crashes after i click on the Computer icon from the Palces Menu in Ubuntu 9.10" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37525302:26
BUGabundotypo02:26
BUGabundoPlaces not Palces02:26
thiebaude1BUGabundo: thanks, i didn't even notice that02:26
BUGabundoI find bug on anything, not just code02:27
BUGabundo:)02:27
thiebaude1BUGabundo: i dont know that much, but wish i did, about code02:27
thiebaude1BUGabundo: how do i change my nick02:27
kklimondathiebaude1: type /nick new_nick02:28
BUGabundogrrr kklimonda beated me to it02:28
thiebaude1ok thanks02:28
thiebaude1it still has the 1 after my name02:29
BUGabundoheeheh02:29
thiebaude1lol02:29
thiebaude1:)02:29
thiebaude1brb02:29
thiebaudeback02:31
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thiebaude1BUGabundo: you still there02:54
BUGabundostill02:54
thiebaude1i found a bug02:54
BUGabundoone?02:55
thiebaude1yup, in evolution02:55
thiebaude1evolution crashes when i goto edit> then preferences, then it quits02:55
thiebaude1crashes02:55
BUGabundoagain02:57
BUGabundojust one ?02:57
BUGabundoLOL02:57
thiebaude1haha02:57
BUGabundo"the force is weak on you,friend"02:57
thiebaude1yup, im just leaning how to test things,:)02:58
thiebaude1I better goto to launchpad02:58
BUGabundogetting ready to go to bed03:00
BUGabundojust finising off, updating a bug03:00
thiebaude1ok have a good nite, im going to, its still early here 10pm03:01
thiebaude1off i go to find them bugs, lol03:01
ienorandthiebaude1: I can confirm that crash yes :)03:02
* ienorand ah drat...03:02
BUGabundonight03:02
ienorandgnight03:03
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LordKowgrr bug 307494 is annoying sometimes08:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 307494 in mini-dinstall "Generates incorrect Packages file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30749408:15
wirechiefgetting error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-dataengines-workspace_4%3a4.2.2-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):12:04
wirechief trying to overwrite `/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma/services/applicationjobs.operations', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-data12:04
wirechiefwith this mornings du12:05
wirechiefErrors were encountered while processing:12:05
wirechief /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-dataengines-workspace_4%3a4.2.2-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb12:05
wirechiefE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:06
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wirechiefhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37595312:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 375953 in kdebase-runtime "package kdebase-runtime 4:4.2.2-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kwalletd', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [Undecided,New]12:30
dazjorzwirechief: those, and all of those KDE packages "can't be installed, trying to overwrite foo also in package bar" are fixable by running: dpkg --remove --force-depends bar, then apt-get -f install13:52
dazjorzit may take a while and some manual labor, but that fixes it - the maintainers ought to add the conflicting packages to debian/control but apparantly, they don't13:53
wirechiefthanks dazjorz13:54
dazjorzand *somebody* broke sound13:56
dazjorzsigh13:56
wirechiefdazjorz: unfortunately i tried to fix things before you gave the solution and now have myself with14:04
wirechief18 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.14:04
wirechief13 not fully installed or removed.14:04
* wirechief punts14:05
wirechiefim not use to getting this messed up. (groans)14:05
wirechiefdo i need to force install these 13 ?14:06
aciculawirechief: just means they are held back for whatever reason14:14
wirechiefacicula well im losing this ball game now have 14 :(14:16
aciculawirechief: it's alpha, that happens often14:18
wirechiefacicula what do you do, keep trying to rotate these around from install to remove and then back to install until fixed ?14:19
dazjorzwirechief: just do what I said14:19
dazjorzwirechief: it will work as long as you use dpkg and not apt-get, and give the --force-depends flag14:19
dazjorzwirechief: when you're done removing the packages it wants, run apt-get -f install14:20
dazjorzwirechief: it will automatically fix the rest for you14:20
wirechiefdazjorz: ok will try that again14:20
wirechiefdazjorz: this is what i get :( dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove bar which isn't installed.14:21
dazjorzwirechief: 'bar' is a placeholder for the package you need to remove14:21
dazjorzwhich is the package that's already installed, containing the files another package wants to overwrite14:21
dazjorzfor example14:21
dazjorz13:30:12 < ubottu> Ubuntu bug 375953 in kdebase-runtime "package kdebase-runtime 4:4.2.2-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kwalletd', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [Undecided,New]14:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 375953 in kdebase-runtime "package kdebase-runtime 4:4.2.2-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kwalletd', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (dup-of: 374676)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37595314:21
dazjorzrun this:14:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 374676 in kdebase-runtime "package kdebase-runtime 4:4.2.2-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/kwalletd', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37467614:21
dazjorzdpkg --remove --force-depends kdebase-runtime-bin-kde414:22
dazjorzfor all packages you get that error for, then apt-get -f install14:22
wirechiefok14:22
aciculawirechief: i pay very little attention to the packages14:22
RichardWolfVINice, anyone upgrading to Alpha 1?14:40
aciculai am trying it, jaunty broke more then it fixes, hoping the newer kernel/xorg driver will work a bit better14:44
RichardWolfVIYeah, I tryied the packages before hand and I'm glad the new kernel and driver fixed my main issues14:45
RichardWolfVIunfortunately I can't still use UXA14:45
aciculaat this point acceleration is moot for me, a working backlight and no crashes would be nice :)14:46
wirechiefdazjorz: i finally got rid of broken packages and now have this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.15:14
dazjorzwirechief: that's fine15:18
dazjorzwirechief: if you want them upgraded, you can try apt-get dist-upgrade, or install them manually with apt-get install15:18
dazjorzwirechief: should you be using karmic really? it's in pre-alpha state...15:18
dazjorzor alpha 1 now I think15:18
ienorandwasn't a1 on the 14th?15:19
wirechiefdazjorz: i have the intel graphics chip and am trying to help with bug fighting on it, karmic is going to be the fix for intel bugs (we hope)15:19
charlie-tcayes, ienorand15:20
charlie-tcait is still the 13th, though15:20
dazjorzwirechief: okay15:20
wirechiefdazjorz: it means i have to carry a suitcase full of bandaids and learn more tricks than i currently know...thanks for your help15:21
dazjorznp :)15:21
dazjorzgood luck15:21
* wirechief looks in pocket for rabbit foot15:22
aciculawirechief: it works better for my intel gma4500 for sure15:56
aciculabacklight is allover the place, but at least i can set it to a high(er) setting15:57
RichardWolfVIstill downloading...15:57
aciculai just updated15:57
wirechiefacicula if you dont have this yet, you can get it here : sudo wget -Nc https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/+files/xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.7.1-0ubuntu1~xup~1_amd64.deb16:00
wirechiefacicula also there are 386 arch's there too.16:00
aciculaah yeh i'm on 2.7.0 still16:02
billybigriggeralpha1 tommarow already? geez16:55
ienorandYea, how time fly, almost wonder about the half-year schedule...17:00
wirechiefintel freeze bug still affects me even with 2.7.1 xserver-xorg-video-intel :(18:09
RichardWolfVIwirechief: Which freeze?18:10
wirechiefhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/35939218:10
ubottuUbuntu bug 359392 in compiz "[i965] X freezes starting on April 3rd" [Undecided,In progress]18:10
wirechiefRichardWolfVI: i am ok with exa but not uxa18:11
RichardWolfVImee too18:18
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wirechiefah a new bug.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/37611818:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 376118 in gnome-applets "mixer_applet2 crashed with signal 7 in g_datalist_id_set_data_full()" [Undecided,New]18:29
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RichardWolfVIOK, no showstoppers :D18:39
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ienorandRichardWolfVI: You joined *The Karmic*18:51
ienorand*append "?"18:52
thiebaudehi18:53
ienorandthiebaude: hello18:53
thiebaudewassup ienorand18:53
thiebaudeienorand: i got to upgrade to 9.10 again18:54
ienorandnot much, looking at some glitches here and there...18:54
thiebaudeyea, lost internet earlier18:54
thiebaudeienorand: you use evolution?18:55
ienorandthiebaude: ah, no fun, like when the life support system fails... bad stuff that...18:55
RichardWolfVIienorand: Yes18:55
ienorandthiebaude: nah, I'm on thunderbird...18:55
thiebaudeah18:55
ienorandmostly since I can migrate the profile quite easily between win--ubuntu18:56
RichardWolfVII notice the About Ubuntu item in the System menu is missing18:56
thiebaudebug 37580018:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 375800 in evolution "Evolution in Ubuntu 9.10 crashes" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37580018:56
ienorandthiebaude: oh, that one I can confirm I think you mentioned it here before and I got the same crash when I tested... I think....18:57
thiebaudeienorand: you think i should dual boot 9.04 and 9.10?18:57
ienorandthiebaude: if having a working computer is important, YES.18:58
thiebaudeok then i can do more testing18:58
ienorandYea, that evolution bug I can confirm.18:58
thiebaudeok, thanks ienorand, i discovered that last nite when i setup evolution18:59
thiebaudei wanted to load images in email, so i went to preferences from the edit menu18:59
setuidCan someone tell me the "correct" way to get RID of metacity from being launched every time GNOME starts? I want sawfish to be my default WM, but every time I set it, or kill off metacity and launch sawifsh, and then do 'gnoem-session-save', it launches metacity when I log in.18:59
setuidIs the metacity binary hard-coded in the gnome-session startup now?18:59
setuidI changed it in gconf-editor too, and that's ignored as well19:00
thiebaudeok guys bbl iam going to setup a dual boot between 9.04 and 9.1019:00
thiebaudeienorand: one last question, should i setup programs after i upgraded to 9.10?19:01
thiebaudethings like flash, java,etc19:02
setuidoops... So anyone know? Is it impossible to switch window managers in GNOME now? Is it all hard-coded?19:02
setuidEverywhere I've changed it (~/.xsession, gconf-editor, /etc/gdm/*, etc.) it still falls back to metacity19:02
ienorandthiebaude: I don't know... I mean both new installs and upgrades are good to test out.19:03
d1bsetuid: startkde ?19:03
setuidd1b, nada19:03
setuidd1b, No KDE on this machine, can't do that.19:03
d1boh well ^^19:03
thiebaudekewl19:03
crdlbsetuid: you tried /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager ?19:03
thiebaudeok, then i goto go and do a little work now19:03
crdlb(note that it must refer to a desktop file name, not a binary)19:03
setuidcrdlb, Not in my gconf registry19:04
setuidlemme try something... back in a sec.19:04
setuidcrdlb, That didn't work... so instead, I just renamed /usr/bin/metacity to /usr/bin/metacity.orig, and symlinked it back to /usr/bin/sawfish... which now works. Hacky, but effective. metacity is just too hard-coded in every binary now.19:06
setuidIt's a shitty wm, no function whatsoever.19:06
crdlbit's not hardcoded at all19:06
setuidit's tangled into EVERYTHNIG19:07
setuidYou can't get rid of it19:07
crdlbhow do you think the switch to compiz works?19:07
crdlbit's not19:07
setuidI've modified every single place I can think of, short of editing binaries, to stop metacity from being launched19:07
setuidIt still launches it19:07
setuidit's hard-coded -somewhere-19:07
crdlbdid you set that key to Sawfish with a capital S?19:08
setuidNope, because Sawfish has no desktop file, and metacity was there with a lowercase anyway, so I followed that convention19:08
setuidThere should be an EASY way to change window managers, some gui or some selection process19:08
setuidhaving to run things like dpkg-reconfigure --config x-window-manager (also does nothing), and edit files like ~/.xsession and the gdm wrappers, change the pointers in gconf, etc. is not a viable way to do that.19:09
crdlbok ...19:09
setuidNone of those approaches worked, metacity still launched.19:09
setuidThe only way I could stop it from launching, was to do the rename/symlink trick, or chmod 0000 /etc/init.d/gdm, and run startx from a shell, with the appropriate ~/.xinitrc set up.19:10
setuidBoth clunky and hacky19:10
crdlbaccording to apt-file, sawfish installs: /usr/share/gnome/wm-properties/Sawfish.desktop19:11
crdlbwhich means that 'Sawfish' should work, afaik19:11
crdlbI gui for this would be nice, yes (and easy to make)19:12
setuidI'll rename the metacity binary back and see if that works19:12
setuidSeems 3G pppd is also broken, so my WWAN card won't latch up19:12
crdlbmeh, maybe it looks in /usr/share/applications/19:12
crdlbif that's really needed, then the sawfish package should be fixed to install one there too19:13
setuid/usr/share/gnome/wm-properties/Sawfish.desktop19:13
crdlbyeah, but I don't think it looks there (since the metacity one is called metacity-wm.desktop)19:13
BUGabundohi fellow ubunteros19:13
setuidOk, let me give this a test19:13
ienorandHia BUGabundo19:15
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dazjorzhmm, heh20:23
dazjorzlooks like pulseaudio is making crackling sounds, and esd is only playing on my left speaker :/20:23
BUGabundodazjorz: the crackling is a known prob20:25
rskialso20:27
rskisounds have stopped working only on youtube20:27
BUGabundoyep20:27
rskibut gnash works thou20:27
BUGabundoor it plays but video hicksup20:27
rskibut not in high quality20:27
rskiit can't switch20:27
BUGabundohhehe20:27
rskior HD20:27
BUGabundoI could last time I tried it20:27
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dazjorzgnash has some problems with youtube HD20:46
dazjorzbut sometimes it *only* works with HD, weird :P20:46
dazjorzbut it's slow, very slow, too20:46
dazjorzone side of me wants to get the source and see if I can improve gnash, they probably have some junior-jobs laying around20:46
dazjorzthe other side of me thinks: I have enough to do already :P20:47
BUGabundois anyone else with 64bits flash, being asked to install/upgrade flashplugin?20:50
dazjorzI have 64-bits flash, don't remember if it was upgraded20:55
BUGabundoI just got it20:57
BUGabundo$ apt-cache rdepends flashplugin-installer | pastebinit20:57
BUGabundohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/171891/20:57
BUGabundodepends on restrited extras20:57
* dazjorz updates20:57
dazjorzis it working etc? :)20:57
* dazjorz isn't getting any flashplugin update20:58
dazjorzii  flashplugin-installer                      10.0.22.87ubuntu2                        Adobe Flash Player plugin installer20:58
BUGabundo$ apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer20:59
BUGabundo  Installed: 10.0.22.87ubuntu220:59
dazjorzalready upgraded then20:59
BUGabundokklimonda: I still get the gnome-do-plugins prob21:00
BUGabundoshould I reopen the bug?21:00
dazjorzjust noticed21:01
dazjorzpulseaudio only plays the left speaker, too21:01
dazjorzand the right speaker does work, just checked21:01
kklimondaBUGabundo: number?21:01
BUGabundoreally?21:01
BUGabundolet me open exail21:01
BUGabundokklimonda: I wish I had that good memory... maybe Firefox awesome bar knows it21:02
BUGabundomy audio comes from both speakers21:03
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kklimondahmm.. i was wondering - are there any rough estimates how much does ubuntu development and maintenance cost Canonical? I remember Mark saying that Kubuntu was costing him 2M per year..21:41
SwedeMikekklimonda: I'd guess ubuntu total is at least 10MUSD a year21:42
BUGabundokklimonda: I think you got the wrong number21:42
BUGabundothat's how much Mark said he donated to the KDE project21:42
kklimondaBUGabundo: hmm.. not to Kubuntu specifically?21:42
kklimondaBUGabundo: (12:26:09 PM) sabdfl: i worked out the other day that i personally spend more than $2m a year supporting Kubuntu and KDE21:44
kklimondaya, it was both kubuntu and kde21:44
BUGabundook21:49
BUGabundoyou are fast on log searchs21:49
kklimondaI knew where to look for it21:49
dazjorzBUGabundo: weird, I'm in windows now and it works fine on both, when I reboot I only get sound on my left speaker, maybe it's some broken volume contro21:52
dazjorzl21:52
BUGabundomaybe21:53
BUGabundocheck $ alsamixer21:53
* dazjorz will be back in ubuntu soon probably21:54
BUGabundodazjorz: come back to us!!!! don't leave22:01
dazjorzBUGabundo: :D22:04
dazjorzI won't ;)22:04
LordKowdangit just spent half an hour accientally compiling vlc 1.1.0 git when i meant for 1.0 rc22:31
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BUGabundoLordKow: lol22:32
BUGabundoI didn't even knew 1.1 was in the git22:32
BUGabundoI was there this morning and only got builds for rc22:33
LordKowyea they just changed it a couple days ago now that 1.0 is rc22:33
ienorandLordKow: do you also have sound issues in current Karmic btw?22:33
LordKowienorand: im using virtualbox in karmic so i cant say for certain but sound is definitely acting different than jaunty22:33
LordKowi think they just published pulse 0.9.15 a couple days ago22:33
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BUGabundoLordKow: to karmic?22:34
ienorandyea, I can't get no sound in vlc, and openarena sound fails a while into the game (latter is a horrible showstopper bug :) )22:35
LordKowBUGabundo: yes22:35
LordKowhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio22:36
rskiLordKow: why link that?22:36
LordKowrski: because it shows that pulseaudio has gone through major updates the last week'ish so sound problems are to be expected22:37
BUGabundoLordKow: it's a mess and dtchen knows about it22:38
LordKowwell you asked if i was having sound problems and my response was yes and i know why :)22:38
LordKowand im sure chen knows22:38
ienorandAny idea to start filing bugs on that then?22:41
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BUGabundoienorand: more??? poor daniel22:46
* ienorand likes the latest xkcd take on bug triaging...22:54
BUGabundoienorand: link?22:56
rskixkcd.com22:58
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