[00:42] <micahg> I'm curious, regarding bug 298772, the first half is a dup of bug 298303, but I'm not sure what to do with the second half
[00:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 298772 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox closes when I open downlaods window" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298772
[00:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 298303 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox Download Manager unresponsive with full disk" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/298303
[00:44] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/171037/
[00:44] <BUGabundo> I can't get kde to upgrade :(
[00:44] <kklimonda> micahg: I'd mark 298772 as invalid because reporter can't reproduce it anymore and there were few updates for firefox since nov 2008..
[00:45] <kklimonda> micahg: second part sounds like a different bug and should be reported separately..
[00:45] <micahg> kklimonda: I already established the original problem was a dupe of 298303
[00:45] <kklimonda> micahg: you could probably also mark it as a dup of 298303 and comment that the second part should be reported as a new bug.
[00:46] <micahg> hggdh:  what do you think?
[00:47] <micahg> kklimonda: I was thinking something similar
[00:53] <hggdh> hum
[00:53] <micahg> well, I followed kklimonda's advice
[00:53] <hggdh> or just comment the first part is a dup, and that we are going to disregard it, and accept the second part (and adjust the description)
[00:54] <micahg> that was my debate :)
[00:54] <hggdh> and ask the reporter to please: one issue per bug, one bug per issue
[00:54] <hggdh> :-)
[00:54] <hggdh> sorry for being late ;-)
[00:54] <micahg> np
[00:54] <micahg> I just wanted to get rid of it
[00:54] <hggdh> well, then...
[00:54] <micahg> I have some things to take care of before I start triaging for the night
[04:48] <andresmujica1> bugsquad meeting report sent to the ML..
[04:54] <andresmujica1> and published here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting/Minutes/2009-12-05
[05:50] <micahg1> hggdh: you still up?
[05:56] <micahg> anyone else available to help me triage?
[06:17] <pace_t_zulu> sup micahg
[06:21] <micahg> pace_t_zulu: do you have triage permsisions?
[06:21] <micahg> in LP?
[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:53] <darizzle1> howdy
[12:20] <Rafik> hello, I suspect bug 371619 to be a duplicate of bug 366315, can anyone verify please ?
[12:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 371619 in ubuntu "Strange picture shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371619
[12:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 366315 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "usplash corrupts and hangs on shutdown with nvidia driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366315
[12:29] <thekorn> Rafik, yes, I agree, I think it is save to mark them as duplicates
[12:32] <Rafik> thekorn> thanks
[14:26] <bddebian> Boo
[14:27] <pedro_> buuu
[14:28] <bddebian> :)
[15:39] <mbana> hello, this tracker-indexer is killing my machine
[16:27] <xteejx> Good afternoon guys!
[16:31] <xteejx> bug 373020 : Can anyone help to triage this, or am I doing OK with it so far?
[16:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 373020 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 9.04 - flash video requests Javascript" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373020
[16:35] <xteejx> Is there anyone here awake? Seems the bug squad numbers are ever so slowly dropping :(
[16:37] <bencrisford> I'm here :D
[16:37] <xteejx> Woohoo LIFE!
[16:38] <xteejx> Can someone from bug control change the status of bug 113552 to medium for me please?
[16:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 113552 in linux "SD card is spontaneously unmounted when files are copied to it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113552
[16:39] <thurston> The Jaunty Desktop is unstable. Too frequently when I adjust the position of my icons, they dissapear then the desktop freezes. There seems to be some kind of refresh failure.
[16:40] <xteejx> thurston: Have you reported a bug?
[16:41] <thurston> How do I do that, I am still new to Ubuntu?
[16:41] <bencrisford> There are several ways thurston
[16:42] <bencrisford> you can go onto https://bugs.launchpad.net and click create a new bug
[16:42] <bencrisford> that is what I would do
[16:42] <bencrisford> and we'll guide you through it
[16:42] <xteejx> Easiest way is to go to launchpad.net, create an account
[16:43] <xteejx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[16:43] <charlie-tca> xteejx: bug 113552 done
[16:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 113552 in linux "SD card is spontaneously unmounted when files are copied to it" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113552
[16:43] <xteejx> charlie-tca: thanks
[16:43] <xteejx> :)
[16:44] <xteejx> oooohhh i just noticed the OSD popped up with the mesage I like that
[16:45] <thurston> xteejx, bencrisford: Thank you guys.
[16:45] <bencrisford> np
[16:45] <xteejx> No probs thurston :)
[16:47] <micahg1> hggdh: you there?
[16:51] <valya> Hello friends, i'm having trouble with ubuntu 9.10 install. My computer overheats and reboots during installation. Is this the right place to ask for help?
[16:52] <micahg> valya: You can try #ubuntu for support.  This channel is for bug triage.
[16:52] <bencrisford> valya:  but you might want to report it as a bug
[16:53] <bencrisford> in the development stages of karmic reports are really important
[16:53] <micahg> ah, sorry
[16:53] <bencrisford> for help, you also might want to try #ubuntu-testing
[16:53] <micahg> missed that it was Karmic
[16:53] <valya> What is Karmic?
[16:53] <bencrisford> ubuntu 9.10
[16:53] <bencrisford> it is a pre-release test version
[16:54] <bencrisford> valya; have you been using ubuntu for long?
[16:54] <valya> yes. Several years
[16:54] <bencrisford> did you burn it to a CD?
[16:54] <bencrisford> or dvd/usb?
[16:54] <valya> i'm trying to install 9.10 after 8.04.
[16:54] <valya> installing from CD
[16:55] <micahg> 9.10 or 8.10?
[16:55] <valya> 8.04 installation finished nice. I worked with 8.04 several months. But now trying 9.10.
[16:55] <bencrisford> valya; if you downloaded 9.10 then you should really get 8.10/9.04
[16:55] <bencrisford> but if you want to test it
[16:55] <bencrisford> CDs wont work
[16:56] <bencrisford> it is too big, and therefore it wont be burned properly
[16:56] <bencrisford> try with a DVD, USB or virtual machine
[16:56] <bencrisford> when it comes to the final release, it will be compact enough for CDs
[16:57] <valya> thr problem is not with installer size. New installer overheats my CPU
[16:57] <xteejx> its bleeding alpha it wont be stable for a few months lol
[16:57] <bencrisford> hmm, well report it as a bug to start
[16:57] <bencrisford> otherwise itll never be stable :P
[16:58] <bencrisford> and for support you should really goto #ubuntu-testing :)
[16:58] <valya> Sorry. I mislead you. I trying to install ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:58] <valya> not 9.10
[16:59] <bencrisford> ah ok
[16:59] <bencrisford> well still report it, but as a jaunty bug
[17:00] <bencrisford> when in doubt - report it, because even if it is not valid, we're here to make sure only the valid ones get triaged
[17:00] <xteejx> what status should bug 183933 be?
[17:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 183933 in php5 "[needs-packaging] php-Fileinfo package" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183933
[17:01] <xteejx> I'm thinking of setting it to confirmed as it isnt in the repositories
[17:01] <bencrisford> hmm
[17:01] <bencrisford> give me a second to read it, and ill give you my opinion
[17:01] <xteejx> thx
[17:03] <bencrisford> xteejx; well I guess if someone has the same problem then it is confirmed?
[17:03] <bencrisford> or arent i reading it right
[17:03] <xteejx> kool
[17:03] <bencrisford> i just skimmed through
[17:03] <xteejx> its a request for an addition to repos
[17:03] <bencrisford> ahh
[17:04] <bencrisford> wishlist then i think
[17:04] <bencrisford> because it isnt an urgent problem that needs fixing?
[17:04] <xteejx> confirm it then i take it
[17:04] <bencrisford> i wouldnt like to advise about this one cos i dont know
[17:05] <bencrisford> this is the php5 one right?
[17:05] <bencrisford> soz, g2g
[17:05] <xteejx> lol k
[17:08] <micahg> xteejx: bencrisford: I don't know if this is even worth it, it's coming in 5.3.0 as a standard extension
[17:08] <xteejx> don't know what that means but ok
[17:08] <micahg> http://pecl.php.net/package/Fileinfo
[17:09] <micahg> it'll be in core php and have to be packaged
[17:13] <hggdh> micahg, I am now here
[17:13] <micahg> ah
[17:13] <micahg> ok
[17:13] <micahg> bug 375784
[17:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 375784 in firefox-3.0 "http://www.bloomberg.com will not load -- Content Encoding Error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375784
[17:13] <micahg> is it considered triaged?
[17:14] <hggdh> yes it it. Marking as such.
[17:14] <micahg> thanks :)
[17:15] <hggdh> my pleasure, micahg. Thank YOU :-)
[17:16] <hggdh> xteejx, bencrisford workflow bugs are not dealt by -bugsquad (bug 183933)
[17:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 183933 in php5 "[needs-packaging] php-Fileinfo package" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183933
[17:17] <xteejx> since when? i thought it was confirm if they're not in repos, and wishlist it as its a request for a package? its been a good 6-9 months since i was triaging
[17:17] <micahg> hggdh: I think that should be won't fix
[17:17] <micahg> since it'll come out in php 5.3
[17:18] <xteejx> when will php 5.3 be in ubuntu though?
[17:18] <micahg> after it's stable :)
[17:19] <hggdh> xteejx, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Special%20types%20of%20bugs
[17:19] <hggdh> micahg, while I agree it would probably have to wait for 5.3, this is a workflow request, not a bug
[17:20] <xteejx> then in reality it shouldnt have the [needs-packaging] tag?
[17:20] <micahg> hggdh: true
[17:20] <micahg> I just added my 2 cents to the report though
[17:20] <bencrisford> back
[17:21] <bencrisford> hggdh: ah, woops :S
[17:21] <xteejx> is it possible to set a watch against the stability of php 5.3?
[17:21] <hggdh> xteejx, well, it is still a needs-packaging -- dependencies have to be worked out.
[17:21] <hggdh> xteejx, what do you mean?
[17:22] <hggdh> bencrisford, no problems ;-)
[17:22] <xteejx> well you can set a watch against other bugs, i.e. ubuntu/launchpad against debian, is it possible to do the same with the development of php 5.3 or this bug?
[17:22] <xteejx> ~*for
[17:23] <hggdh> I do not think so -- but it might be possible (never tried) by setting an upstream watch on the php BTS (if they do have a bug for "releasing 5.3)
[17:23] <xteejx> hgghd, i think i'll just leave this one alone
[17:24] <xteejx> im just going through all my old bugs, seeing whats happened with them, any changes
[17:25] <bencrisford> has anyone had a chance to review my bug-control application yet?  I don't mean to nag, its just I have seen a few slip through and not be answered...
[17:27] <hggdh> bencrisford, at least I have it to be answered (actually I did start, but did not have time to go on). But you will need at least two answers
[17:27] <bencrisford> ok
[17:27] <hggdh> for whatever reason, I suddenly got four or five such emails at almost the same time
[17:29] <xteejx> hggdh: any chance you can re-review my application from quite a while ago, i think i'm pretty good at triaging now and the numbers are seriously dwindling, as you know i've been around for quite a while as well....
[17:30] <xteejx> its just so much sodding around having to ask to change everything, when i have enough of a brain to know what to do myself lol
[17:31] <xteejx> what is the current kernel for i386? is it 28-12 same as 64bit?
[17:34] <charlie-tca> uname -r gives it. I show 28-11
[17:34] <charlie-tca> in jaunty
[17:34] <xteejx> thanks charlie-tca, i'm on proposed -12 i think
[17:35] <xteejx> Can someone change bug 207902 to High please?
[17:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 207902 in linux "On time set, "/sbin/hwclock returned 256"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207902
[17:38] <xteejx> bug 209673: Request: Change to Low please :)
[17:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 209673 in pulseaudio "logitech v10 speakers not working after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209673
[17:39] <cruisemaniac> is this the right place to ask for help on bug triaging??? i'm new to the bugsquad :)
[17:39] <xteejx> cuisemaniac: sure, what's your question
[17:40] <cruisemaniac> xteejx, for Bug #376030
[17:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 376030 in gnome-control-center "Changing desktop background eats up all available CPU time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376030
[17:40] <xteejx> cruisemaniac: What help do you need specifically?
[17:40] <cruisemaniac> i have tried to reproduce the bug on my ubuntu system but have not been able to reproduce it... my question is: should i mention that its not reproducible???
[17:41] <cruisemaniac> or should I have some more testing that I must do but am missing it right now?
[17:41] <xteejx> Could be hardware related, ask for the usual dmesg, uname -a etc from the Kernel Team Policies
[17:41] <xteejx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[17:41] <cruisemaniac> ah! ok...
[17:42] <cruisemaniac> hey! thanks for the link :)
[17:42] <xteejx> cruisemaniac: np
[17:42] <pedro_> cruisemaniac: yes please, could you also ask which video card/driver is the reporter using?, would be good as well to know which process is using that amount of CPU
[17:43] <pedro_> nautilus, gnome-appearance-properties, xorg, etc
[17:43] <pedro_> cruisemaniac: btw isn't reproducible here either
[17:43] <xteejx> hardware/driver related
[17:44] <cruisemaniac> pedro_, ah ok... will mention that... but I dont need to change the status of the bug right??? i just leave it at new, undecided and un-assigned.
[17:44] <xteejx> incomplete it until he gives u the info you requested
[17:44] <pedro_> cruisemaniac: you need to change the status, if you ask something to the reporter and you're waiting for information he could provide, the right status is Incomplete
[17:45] <hggdh> You can check on it by either searching http://packages.ubuntu.com, or at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[17:45] <cruisemaniac> ok... will do...
[17:45] <hggdh> xteejx,  ^^
[17:45] <xteejx> hggdh: huh?
[17:45] <pedro_> cruisemaniac: you might want to read about the Bug Status: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status always worth to have a look ;-)
[17:46] <hggdh> xteejx, your question on what version of kernel is out there
[17:46] <xteejx> oh its ok i got it :)
[17:59] <cruisemaniac> pedro_: thanks for the info... made necessary updates to the bug report :)
[18:00] <pedro_> cruisemaniac: great!
[18:28] <bdmurray> bug 373492 would benefit from some translation
[18:28] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 373492 in ubuntu "a series of errors while updating from 8.04 to 8.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373492
[18:32] <bencrisford> bdmurray: i don't speak spanish/portugese or whatever language thats in, but I could run it through google translate if you like?  Just to get a general idea
[18:34] <bdmurray> bencrisford: There are some people here who might know the language
[18:34] <bencrisford> ah ok :)
[18:38] <bencrisford> bdmurray: don't suppose you've had a chance to review my bug-control application yet?  i don't mean to nag, im just pretty anxious to find out whether i get accepted or not :)
[18:46] <mrooney> bencrisford: I'll give it a review!
[18:46] <mrooney> I can at least get you 50% of the way there :)
[18:49] <mrooney> it is hard to reply since the application is an attachment, I guess I'll include it in my email?
[18:53] <hggdh> bdmurray, translated, as far as I can understand
[18:58] <xteejx> all done, back guys
[19:01] <bencrisford> mrooney: aww cheers :D, erm, i gues you could just include the attatchment
[19:02] <bencrisford> i just attatched it to make my msg more tidy, but you can reply how you wish :)
[19:07] <xteejx> Can someone set bug 207902 as medium for me please?
[19:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 207902 in linux "On time set, "/sbin/hwclock returned 256"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207902
[19:08] <xteejx> I'm thinking maybe even High as its recurring problem and several users have the same.
[19:08] <xteejx> And bug 209673 to LOW
[19:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 209673 in pulseaudio "logitech v10 speakers not working after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/209673
[19:09] <xteejx> Anyone with control in?
[19:11] <mrooney> xteejx: I can take a peek at them
[19:11] <xteejx> mrooney, thx
[19:12] <charlie-tca> xteejx: why wouldn't 209673 be medium? A problem with a non-essential hardware component (network card, camera, webcam, music player, sound card, power management feature, printer, etc.)
[19:12] <charlie-tca> It is hardware, non-essential
[19:13] <bencrisford> mrooney: :) if you do reply to my application would you mind CC'ing it to me please?  Because unless I check the archives I have no way of checking the mailing list
[19:13] <xteejx> charlie-tca: I thought the speaker one should be low, its not a serious hardware problem, and only 1 other user has confirmed it
[19:13] <bencrisford> my e-mail is:  ben@freeyourpc.tk
[19:13] <bencrisford> :)
[19:13] <mrooney> bencrisford: yeah I'll reply-all, ps looks good so far :)
[19:13] <bencrisford> :D
[19:13] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance sets non-essential hardware to medium
[19:13]  * bencrisford has his fingers tightly crossed
[19:13] <BUGabundo> hi fellow ubunteros
[19:13] <mrooney> BUGabundo: allo
[19:14] <bencrisford> hey BUGabundo :)
[19:14] <charlie-tca> I guess it could also be low, for uncommon hardware
[19:14] <xteejx> charlie-tca: fiar enough, its prob changed in 9 months then lol
[19:14] <charlie-tca> done
[19:14] <xteejx> thx charlie :)
[19:15] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo
[19:16] <xteejx> charlie-tca: Would you mind having a quick look at bug 207902 as well, I thought this should be High,semi-severe problem, and quite a lot affected
[19:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 207902 in linux "On time set, "/sbin/hwclock returned 256"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207902
[19:16] <charlie-tca> done
[19:18] <xteejx> charlie-tca: thx :)
[19:18] <charlie-tca> no problem
[19:19] <charlie-tca> I don't see your application for bug-control?
[19:19] <charlie-tca> get hung up someplace, maybe?
[19:21] <xteejx> charlie-tca: you mean mine?
[19:21] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:21] <xteejx> i applied 9 months ago, got rejected, became really ill, and only just recently started triaging again
[19:22] <xteejx> am in the processof applying for bug control again :)
[19:22] <charlie-tca> oh, nm then
[19:28] <bencrisford> mrooney: I'm guessing I was wrong to confirm the broadcom bug?
[19:29] <mrooney> bencrisford: not necessarily, but in that particular case (a bug with an open-source driver where a restricted one exists) it is good to see if the problem can be solved by using the other driver
[19:30] <mrooney> it might fix the problem for that user instead of waiting for a bug fix in the free drivers, and that's good
[19:30] <bencrisford> ok :)
[19:31] <xteejx> Finally application for -control is done
[19:32] <xteejx> how long does it take for the application to be reviewed?
[19:32] <xteejx> hggdh: Application resent
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Depends on how busy it gets.
[19:34] <xteejx> ahh ok
[19:36] <xteejx> Is there a known problem with Jaunty and flash on 64bit?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Isn't there a known problem with flash and everything?
[19:38] <xteejx> Not too sure where I should go with bug 373020.......I think the guy has messed his installation up by installing/removin thre flash .deb
[19:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 373020 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 9.04 - flash video requests Javascript" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373020
[19:38] <xteejx> charlie: lol!
[19:39] <askand> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how do get further with bug 355155 ?
[19:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 355155 in linux "Computer hard locks randomly with ubuntu jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355155
[19:40] <xteejx> askand: God knows, it could be anything, but it needs the importance set so devs can start to look at it
[19:41] <askand> xteejx: Yes, someone got a great idea and told people to " put in a "Me too; would really like an answer/fix for this", comment.  "
[19:42] <xteejx> there is an "also affects me" link in launchpad......
[19:42] <xteejx> bug 373020 - need guidance please
[19:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 373020 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 9.04 - flash video requests Javascript" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373020
[19:43] <elena09> hi
[19:44] <bencrisford> hey
[19:44] <xteejx> bud 373020 anybody?
[19:44] <xteejx> *bug 373020 lol
[19:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 373020 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 9.04 - flash video requests Javascript" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373020
[19:44] <micahg> xteejx: apport-collect for system info
[19:44] <micahg> need to see extension list
[19:45] <xteejx> didnt know that command lol
[19:45] <BUGabundo> xteejx: who ever knows everything?
[19:45] <BUGabundo> also its rather new
[19:46] <xteejx> bugabundo!! hey
[19:46] <xteejx> its been a while for me being here, all btter now though :)
[19:46] <micahg> sounds like No-Script is installed
[19:46] <xteejx> flash is definitely being blocked, all the usual resinstallation methods dont work...
[19:47] <kklimonda> yeah, it does sound like a noscript issue - ask him if he has it installed
[19:48] <kklimonda> on the other hand he has mentioned that it's the clean installation.. weird..
[19:48] <hggdh> xteejx, hi -- what are the importances you would set of the bugs? ;-)
[19:48] <askand> I would argue that bug 355155 get a high priority following the guidelines at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance. This is a bug that makes a default Ubuntu installation generally unusable for some users. One of the reporters say that he "experience freezes within two or three minutes after booting". That is what I would call generally unusable, and a lot of other people are suffering from this. Can any member of UbuntuBugControl
[19:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 355155 in linux "Computer hard locks randomly with ubuntu jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355155
[19:48] <xteejx> apport-collect -p firefox 373020  <-----that correct?
[19:49] <hggdh> yes
[19:50] <xteejx> importances on the application u mean?
[19:51] <xteejx> bug 355155 I would set as high, its a quite serious problem affecting a moderate amount of users
[19:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 355155 in linux "Computer hard locks randomly with ubuntu jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355155
[19:51] <BUGabundo>  !u | xteejx
[19:51] <ubot4> xteejx: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' or 'Ur' are words in the English language. Nor are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' or 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.
[19:52] <xteejx> Bugabundo: ??
[19:52] <charlie-tca> seems like we discussed 355155 the other day. It is about three bugs in one
[19:52] <bencrisford> xteejx: bloody hell, your launchpad has more karma than mark shuttleworths!
[19:52] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: LOL
[19:52] <BUGabundo> let me check that
[19:52] <xteejx> i been saying for long enough GET ME IN!!!!!!!
[19:52] <xteejx> lol
[19:52] <bencrisford> :P
[19:53] <bencrisford> https://launchpad.net/~sabdfl/+karma  -- mark shuttleworths karma
[19:53] <bencrisford> https://launchpad.net/~xteejx  -- teej's :D
[19:53] <xteejx> 150 words per minute, did i tell you best temp in chiswick......sorry, doctor who quote hehe
[19:54] <bencrisford> https://launchpad.net/~xteejx/+karma --soz theres his karma
[19:54] <BUGabundo> bah
[19:54] <BUGabundo> I have more then xteejx
[19:54] <BUGabundo> you were scaring me, for a minute
[19:54] <kklimonda> :D
[19:54] <xteejx> i should bloody well hope so lmao
[19:55] <bencrisford> lol
[19:55] <xteejx> i do try though guys, and im always on here verifying things etc if im not sure :) u all know that
[19:56] <bencrisford> you're certainly more deserving than me ;)
[19:56] <xteejx> lol how long you been going ben?
[19:56] <micahg> we're not having a karma contest are we?
[19:56] <bencrisford> not too sure actually, but id bet any money its not as long as you :P
[19:56] <bencrisford> and yes we are :P
[19:56] <kklimonda> micahg: looks like it
[19:56] <xteejx> this is my 2nd account
[19:57] <micahg> https://launchpad.net/~micahg/+karma
[19:57] <xteejx> i got loads of karma i'm buddhist lol
[19:57] <xteejx> i got more on bug management hehe :P
[19:57] <micahg> I started about 2 weeks ago :)
[19:58] <xteejx> erm..........i was ill for 9 months (not pregnant im a guy)
[19:58] <BUGabundo> micahg: OOHHHHHHHHHHH
[19:58] <BUGabundo> xteejx: guys can get preganant
[19:59] <xteejx> ok ok arnold schwarzenegger and the film junior...
[19:59] <micahg> cosby show
[19:59] <xteejx> ?
[20:00] <xteejx> hggdh: Did the application get received ok?
[20:00] <micahg> xteejx: a TV reference
[20:00] <xteejx> micahg: ahhh before my time
[20:00] <bencrisford> dont suppose anyones replied to mine?  :P the wait is killing me.  still i only sent it a few days ago
[20:00] <bencrisford> brb
[20:00] <charlie-tca> xteejx: yes
[20:01] <hggdh> xteejx, yes, I got it via the ML. Now I would like to know the importances...
[20:01] <xteejx> hggdh: Resend with that info or just say on here?
[20:02] <hggdh> xteejx, very sorry, but I would rather have it resent with the info -- so that all will get it
[20:02] <xteejx> hggdh: its no problem ill do it now :)
[20:02] <hggdh> xteejx, thanks.
[20:02] <xteejx> hggdh no probs
[20:03] <hggdh> BTW it is a good time to prod the bug-controllers here to help answer bug-control applications. This is an important step for the applicants, and we should try to answer timely.
[20:04] <charlie-tca> I agree.
[20:07] <ror> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpid/+question/71006 < why has this been made a question? looks like a valid bug?
[20:09] <xteejx> hggdh: Resent
[20:11] <xteejx> ror: dpkg --reconfigure -a ?
[20:11] <charlie-tca> ror: the bug as filed references another bug. why? Is it a duplicate of the bug referenced? what does it mean? It appears to be a question as to why the updates stopped.
[20:12] <charlie-tca> It isn't really a bug, but a comment, I think.
[20:12] <ror> ok
[20:13] <charlie-tca> and the individual that filed it converted it to a question
[20:14] <ror> looks like the individual concerned isn't terribly aware of what's going on :o
[20:15] <charlie-tca> yeah, that is what I see.
[20:15] <ror> would converting back and marking as dupe be appropriate or should I just leave it?
[20:15] <charlie-tca> It is more like something belonging to forums or mailing list. I would leave it alone
[20:17] <ror> odd thing is isn't not even a dupe of the linked bug lol; oh well it can sit in questions :)
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Wonder if a simple "thanks for this information" would satisfy it?
[20:19] <ror> looks like a bug with more info needed
[20:19] <ror> I'll keep it as a Q and ask for info though
[20:21] <ror> right I've told him to do a sudo apt-get autoclean;update;upgrade
[20:21] <ror> hope that's the right thing ;o
[20:21] <xteejx> Has my amended application been received?
[20:27] <xteejx> What should I do with bug 135130, there hasn't been any activity in a year and a half, yet its marked wishlist, any ideas?
[20:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 135130 in ubuntu "DEB Archives should be able to have embedded icons " [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135130
[20:28] <charlie-tca> wishlist can stay for years.
[20:28] <xteejx> bloody hell
[20:28] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: they really can
[20:28] <BUGabundo> I think I still have on from 6.10
[20:28] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:28] <charlie-tca> So can confirmed
[20:29] <charlie-tca> I would mark it confirmed, and leave it. Wishlist should "nice to have this someday" bugs
[20:30] <charlie-tca> s/should " / should be "
[20:30] <ror> without unending open wishlists, who'd bother to learn to program?
[20:30] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: that reminds me of a comment from KDE Ingo about wishbug
[20:30] <charlie-tca> what was it?
[20:31] <BUGabundo> "we have more High bugs then we can take care. feel free to add yet another wish bug, we will never read"
[20:31] <charlie-tca> ror: agreed. wishlist gives a developer something to aim for, when time allows
[20:31] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: I think they do get read, and the easy ones even get fixed.
[20:32] <guest23323r_> xteejx, wishlist bugs sitting unattended should be forwarded to the related upstream tracker and the Ubuntu task should be set to "Triaged".
[20:32] <xteejx> oh ok
[20:32] <xteejx> bug 210300: can someone set this for me?
[20:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 210300 in acpi-support "[Hardy] Laptop (HP Compaq 8510p) is too hot." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210300
[20:33] <charlie-tca> set to what?
[20:33] <xteejx> personally i would say high, overheating laptop!? could end up in severe hardware failure
[20:33] <mgunes> xteejx, as for the comment you posted on that bug: before using that stock reply, you should check yourself whether the bug persists before asking the bug reporter if possible. It was pretty easy to do it with this particular bug.
[20:34] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: correnction: wishbugs don't get fixed. get implemented
[20:34] <charlie-tca> that's what I meant.
[20:34]  * charlie-tca thinks you should hear what I mean, not what I say, sometimes
[20:34] <xteejx> mgunes: yeah i noticed....must've been half asleep
[20:35] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: I did! I read your mind too... your PIN number is 1945
[20:35] <BUGabundo> :))))
[20:35] <charlie-tca> works for me.
[20:36] <charlie-tca> which pin?
[20:36] <charlie-tca> That 's probably that pin I forgot
[20:36] <BUGabundo> any... everyone just uses a single PIN
[20:36] <xteejx> Can someone set 210300 to HIGH for me please?
[20:36] <BUGabundo> bbl. dinner
[20:37] <charlie-tca> xteejx: you asked for more. It should be incomplete, with status and importance updated when they respond to you.
[20:38] <xteejx> charlie-tca: Oh right ok, just seemed quite important, but yeah thinking about it, I should wait for them to test it in 9.04 first :)
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Can you tell I'm actually testing images today?
[20:39] <xteejx> no.....how would i know that? lol
[20:40] <chrisccoulson> hi bdmurray - i just noticed you made an old tracker crasher public
[20:40] <chrisccoulson> tracker has changed significantly in jaunty, making a lot of the old crashes obsolete
[20:41] <chrisccoulson> i don't know if it's best to just close those ones that don't have a good stacktrace
[20:42] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: I'm not following your last statement
[20:44] <xteejx> hey bdmurray!
[20:45] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - it was suggested on #ubuntu-desktop a few weeks ago that we should probably just close the old tracker crash reports which don't have a good stacktrace, as the code has changed so much now that those problems are likely to have gone away
[20:45] <xteejx> long time no see
[20:45] <xteejx> Status change: 211650 to Medium please
[20:45] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: okay, well I've already gone through the old private ones and made them public
[20:46] <chrisccoulson> thanks. i get automatically subscribed to the tracker reports, but i don't get any mails until they're made public
[20:46] <charlie-tca> bug 211650
[20:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 211650 in xxkb "Wrong keyboard configuration on MacBook (pt-br)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211650
[20:46] <xteejx> Bugs/Importance states it should be High
[20:47] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: I'm going through some more private ones now but they've been reported from Jaunty
[20:47] <xteejx> "A problem with an essential hardware component (disk controller, laptop built-in wireless, video card, keyboard, mouse) " --keyboard
[20:47] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - thanks. i'll send some of those upstream
[20:47] <xteejx> its not a non-working k/b though...
[20:48] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure how much attention the jaunty crashers will see upstream now, as development effort has shifted away from 0.6.9x in jaunty now, and 0.7.x is significantly different again
[20:49] <xteejx> bug 211650 anyone? Just need an importance change on it please if anyones available?
[20:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 211650 in xxkb "Wrong keyboard configuration on MacBook (pt-br)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/211650
[20:49] <charlie-tca> done
[20:49] <xteejx> thx again charlie :D
[20:50] <charlie-tca> crap, high?
[20:50] <xteejx> thought it should be medium hehe
[20:50] <xteejx> well its not a non-working k/b...although the importance says keyabord should be high
[20:50] <xteejx> its just one key
[20:50] <charlie-tca> No, it is not a keyboard problem, but a configuration issue
[20:51] <charlie-tca> The hardware is fine, something is causing it to misprint certain characters.
[20:51] <xteejx> thats what i mean, it's one character misinterpreted by the config
[20:51] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: I think there is a Launchpad bug in that you don't get mail about private bugs.  Since you are a member of u-c-u and subscribed to the bugs I think you should.  What do you think?
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - yeah, that makes sense. i was surprised that i didn't get bugmail for those i'm subscribed too until they're made public
[20:53] <xteejx> someone kick this guy up the arse pls > bug 212051
[20:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 212051 in linux "Muting and unmuting Master channel when headphones are plugged in causes internal speaker to unmute on MacBook Pro" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/212051
[20:53] <charlie-tca> lol
[20:54] <xteejx> so friggin ignorant and know-all
[20:55] <bdmurray> I understand your frustration but let's try and keep it respectful.
[20:56] <xteejx> dont worry brian, i just reinstated the incomplete status and noted that the requested info was not given
[20:56] <xteejx> i'm never ignorant to the reporters :)
[20:57] <hggdh> er, you mean disrespectful, do you not? ;-)
[20:57] <xteejx> meh same kinda thing :P
[20:57] <BUGabundo> eheh
[20:57] <xteejx> hggdh: just splitting hairs now lol :)
[20:58] <hggdh> :-)
[20:58] <ror> you can't be "ignorant" *to* something; you can be ignorant of something :)
[20:59] <xteejx> wanna bet? lol
[20:59] <xteejx> this is britain...anything goes lol
[20:59] <ror> a friend uses it in the same way, really winds me up, it makes no sense at all
[20:59] <ror> I think somehow people have taken it on in place of arrogant :/
[21:00] <xteejx> its a colloquialism for arrogant, yes
[21:00] <xteejx> ;)
[21:00] <ror> a pretty ironic one at that
[21:00] <xteejx> true
[21:00] <bencrisford> hggdh: cheers for your reply to my app :)
[21:01] <hggdh> bencrisford, I am not really sure you would cheer me on it... but I am being honest -- I think you can get there, but need a tad more exposure. But thank you.
[21:02] <xteejx> hggdh: what about me oh great bug control master ;)
[21:02] <bencrisford> hggdh: does this mean I wait for another reply, or take that as a 'not quite there yet'?
[21:03] <xteejx> ben: reapply in a month or 2, thats what i done :)
[21:03] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: I filed bug 376186 regarding what we discussed
[21:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 376186 in malone "private bug implicit subscription" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376186
[21:03] <hggdh> xteejx, heh. I am not a bug master. There is only one with that title -- Brian (well, perhaps Leann also). But I do appreciate the compliment. And yes, I am working on yours
[21:03] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - thanks:)
[21:04] <xteejx> I know about mr murray :) and thanks hggdh :)
[21:04] <hggdh> bencrisford, not quite there, but rather close. Now, again, this is my personal take, others may think different. Since I gave you a +0...
[21:04] <xteejx> i want +250 hehehe
[21:05] <bencrisford> ok, well im learning more every day, so ill wait for some more replies and if im not successful this time, ill re-apply in a while
[21:05] <bencrisford> cheers :)
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray - thanks for going through the tracker bugs too
[21:05] <xteejx> bencrisford: if you ever need guidance or help on bug triaging, theres always someone here
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> hey mnemo - you there?
[21:09] <ror> or just do as you please and let someone slap you into shape if you step out of line, that's the approach I've decided to take
[21:13] <xteejx> ror, lol
[21:13] <hggdh> cheers, bencrisford, and thank you for helping
[21:14] <mgunes> Was the volume control applet part of gnome-media or gnome-applets? I keep forgetting..
[21:14] <xteejx> whats the waiting time on a control application?
[21:14] <ror> mgunes, gnome-applets I think
[21:14] <xteejx> applets
[21:15] <chrisccoulson> mgunes - gnome-volume-control-applet is part of gnome-media
[21:15] <chrisccoulson> it's currently built in to it's own binary package (gnome-volume-control-pulse)
[21:16] <chrisccoulson> the mixer-applet is part of gnome-applets
[21:16] <ror> how do you "close" questions? the user just responded with "great, thanks" but in doing so reset the Q from answered to open
[21:16] <mgunes> chrisccoulson, there seems to be a "mixer" component in the gnome-media uptream module, which is what confuses me
[21:16] <ror> what version no. is gnome-media at?
[21:16] <mgunes> chrisccoulson, thanks for clearing up, that's what I had thought
[21:17] <chrisccoulson> mgunes - yes it's confusing. i found this out because i had to hack the gnome-media package in jaunty to build both the mixer and the applet
[21:17] <micahg> ror: only the user can close Qs AFAIK, but this channel is for bugs :)
[21:17] <charlie-tca> ror: ask if his question was answered
[21:17] <hggdh> You can always try to find out to which package a file belongs by running 'dpkg -S <fileName>', or 'apt-file search <fileName>'
[21:17] <chrisccoulson> gnome-media contains gst-mix, which is actually installed as gnome-volume-control, and is the *old* mixer panel
[21:17] <ror> So I should just respond with "glad you found it useful, please can you mark this as answered?"
[21:17] <chrisccoulson> gnome-applets contains the mixer-applet (the old volume control)
[21:18] <charlie-tca> respond with "Did that answer your question? If not, could you reword your question for me?"
[21:18] <micahg> ror: I think the Launchpad Janitor will take care of it eventually
[21:18] <chrisccoulson> gnome-media also contains gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-volume-control (the new pulseaudio based sound settings capplet which I renamed to gnome-volume-control-settings in jaunty to not conflict with gst-mix)
[21:19] <chrisccoulson> confused? ;)
[21:19] <mgunes> chrisccoulson, no, all cleared up, to the contrary :)
[21:19] <chrisccoulson> good :)
[21:19] <BUGabundo> micahg:  janitor is turned of for Ubuntu bugs
[21:20] <micahg> BUGabundo: he was asking for Qs
[21:20] <mnemo> chrisccoulson: yes?
[21:20] <BUGabundo> micahg: he who?
[21:20] <ror> thanks mica
[21:20] <ror> me; let's get back to bug discussion :)
[21:20] <chrisccoulson> hi mnemo - you running karmic?
[21:20] <micahg> BUGabundo: ror
[21:20] <mnemo> chrisccoulson: yea I got an ATI machine on karmic, why?
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> can you recreate bug 323943 in karmic?
[21:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 323943 in vala "valac crashed with SIGSEGV in vala_ccode_base_module_append_temp_decl()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323943
[21:21] <chrisccoulson> vala is in the process of being promoted, and i'm just trying to close out some of the bug reports
[21:21] <xteejx> Can someone set bug 214154 to High please?
[21:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 214154 in xorg "Can't VSYNC properly on ATI (Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214154
[21:22] <mnemo> chrisccoulson: ok checking..
[21:22] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[21:25] <mnemo> chrisccoulson: do you know vala yourself?
[21:25] <chrisccoulson> mnemo - no. i just need it in main because the next version of tracker needs it at build time
[21:26] <mnemo> ok
[21:26] <chrisccoulson> i should probably learn a bit really ;)
[21:26] <chrisccoulson> it doesn't look too difficult
[21:26] <xteejx> charlie-tca, hggdh: Would one of you mind setting bug 214154 to High please?
[21:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 214154 in xorg "Can't VSYNC properly on ATI (Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214154
[21:26] <mnemo> chrisccoulson: anyway, the old project that previously caused that SEGV now fails to build at all.. with an error message... it says: http://pastebin.com/m712a8dfb
[21:27] <mnemo> chrisccoulson: i've not been porting that code over so im not sure if its my code that obsolete.. maybe jürg changed the syntax or something
[21:27] <charlie-tca> xteejx: done
[21:27] <xteejx> charlie-tca: thanks :)
[21:28] <charlie-tca> no problem
[21:28] <chrisccoulson> mnemo - i'm not sure. his IRC handle is juergbi - it might be best to ask him
[21:29] <chrisccoulson> i know he hangs around on #tracker on irc.gnome.org, but i'm not sure if there's a more appropriate place to find him
[21:29] <xteejx> hggdh: how comes the application? :)
[21:31] <mnemo> chrisccoulson: actually, I see now that I filed an upstream bug as well, I just didnt link them... the upstream bug is not fixed yet.. i linked them now
[21:31] <chrisccoulson> mnemo - thanks
[21:34] <xteejx> charlie-tca: Do you fancy setting bug 219775 to medium as well please? lol :)
[21:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 219775 in linux "[regression] intrepid Broadcom B43 wireless driver not enabled by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219775
[21:36] <hggdh> xteejx, good news for you, at least from my side ;-)
[21:36] <xteejx> hggdh: application you mean?
[21:36] <hggdh> aye
[21:37] <xteejx> hggdh: aww just read it thank you v much :D
[21:37] <xteejx> how many replies do i need before it gets decided?
[21:38] <hggdh> now, wait -- this is just my view. Now we have to wait for others to chime in, and for Brian to give the final go/nogo
[21:38] <hggdh> You need two +1, or two -1. And, of course, the bugmaister agreement.
[21:39] <xteejx> brian declined me last time.....hopefully i've improved
[21:39] <charlie-tca> xteejx: I am confused. What is the bug actually about?
[21:39] <hggdh> ach lieber gott, I wrote mAIster!
[21:39] <charlie-tca> If it is proprietary drivers, they will not be installed by default. Is that really a valid bug?
[21:40] <xteejx> charlie-tca: no, but they are getting errors thrown at them with Hardware Drivers in the system menu, it wont install them
[21:41] <charlie-tca> yeah? I'll go ahead then.
[21:41] <xteejx> ok
[21:41] <charlie-tca> done
[21:42] <xteejx> thx charlie :)
[21:55] <thekorn> hggdh, hehe bugmeister sounds really cool ;)
[21:56] <xteejx> How long does it take LP janitor to clean things up that are out of date?
[21:56] <bencrisford> 60 days for bug reports isnt it?
[21:59] <bencrisford> mrooney: thats for the +1 :D:D
[21:59] <bencrisford> thanks*
[22:00] <xteejx> oh ok
[22:01] <BUGabundo> xteejx: AFAIK  janitor is turned of for Ubuntu bugs
[22:01] <xteejx> oh ok
[22:01] <bencrisford> oh =S
[22:02] <bencrisford> but they are marked invalid after 60 days right?
[22:02] <BUGabundo> don't think so
[22:03] <hggdh> thekorn, I though so ;-)
[22:04] <thekorn> no, they are only marked as candidates for expiry, you can get a list of those bugs here:
[22:04] <hggdh> bencrisford, no, they are not. They will keep on until someone goes there and close/accept it
[22:04] <thekorn> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+expirable-bugs
[22:05] <thekorn> (looks like a good list of canditates for a hug day)
[22:06] <BUGabundo> hehehe
[22:06] <thekorn> especially the first 5k ones
[22:06] <bencrisford> hggdh: ah ok ;)
[22:06] <xteejx> there are far too many, making us look bad
[22:07] <micahg> thekorn: shouldn't whoever marks them incomplete follow up on them?
[22:07] <micahg> I was going to go through my incomplete's once a month
[22:07] <thekorn> micahg, yes, in a perfect world this should be the case
[22:08] <BUGabundo> thekorn: in the perfect world there would be no need for LP
[22:08] <BUGabundo> no bugs... humm no *me* ??? autch
[22:09] <thekorn> BUGabundo, no, a world withhout bugs would not be perfect
[22:09] <xteejx> Can someone set bug 226509 to LOW please?
[22:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 226509 in hotkeys "Dell XPS m1330 multimedia keys" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226509
[22:09] <xteejx> there will always be bugs, no code is 100% perfect
[22:09] <thekorn> only software without any user do not have bugs, and a world with ubuntu without any user won't be perfect
[22:10] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[22:10] <BUGabundo> I like that last one
[22:11] <xteejx> hggdh, charlie-tca: can one of ya change bug 226509 to low, triaged for me please?
[22:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 226509 in hotkeys "Dell XPS m1330 multimedia keys" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/226509
[22:12] <xteejx> im off anyway, but i'd appreciate if someone could change the importance on that ^^ for me laters guys
[22:17] <thekorn> bdmurray, hi, can you please extend my membership in ubuntu-bugcontrol
[22:17] <thekorn> thank you
[22:18] <mrooney> thekorn: you can do it yourself unless it expired, AFAIK
[22:19] <hggdh> I don't think so...
[22:19] <hggdh> how?
[22:19] <thekorn> mrooney, hmm, really? how?
[22:20] <BUGabundo> you can't afaik
[22:20] <thekorn> and if so, the lp guys should have to change the notification email they send out
[22:20] <mrooney> okay maybe I am thinking of something else
[22:21] <thekorn> mrooney, yep, maybe you are thinking about an open team
[22:22] <hggdh> wait, aren't we open? ;-)
[22:30] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/348361
[22:30] <BUGabundo> why would anyone dupe that of bug 1 ?
[22:30] <BUGabundo> bah
[22:30] <ubot4> BUGabundo: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
[22:30] <ubot4> BUGabundo: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
[22:30]  * BUGabundo wonders where the bot is 
[22:31] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: is it really a dup of 1? ;)
[22:31] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: is this poker windows only?
[22:31] <BUGabundo> it was a bad dupe
[22:31] <BUGabundo> just removed it
[22:32] <BUGabundo> user dakbob36
[22:48] <bencrisford1> any bug-control team members have a minute?
[22:49] <kklimonda> bencrisford1: it's better to just ask the question - maybe a bug control member will come by and will be able to read it without further delay.
[22:50] <bencrisford1> its not really a question, im just wondering if anyone has a minute to review my application
[22:50] <bencrisford1> its just id like to get it sorted tonight - get it out of the way, because I just need one more opinion
[22:51] <bencrisford1> anyway, if anyone could that'd be fantastic :)
[22:52] <bencrisford1> but i g2g