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| pitti | Good morning | 06:59 |
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| crevette | hello | 07:59 |
| crevette | good morning | 08:00 |
| didrocks | morning o/ | 08:15 |
| seb128 | hello everybody | 08:20 |
| didrocks | hi seb128, did you have a good night? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 08:22 |
| seb128 | very good, you? | 08:22 |
| didrocks | long one. So, yes :) | 08:22 |
| seb128 | pitti: hey there ;-) libical sru got two comment saying that the update works, could you move it to -updates today? | 08:32 |
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| pitti | seb128: yay nice | 08:32 |
| seb128 | it will make easier to sort issues that people are having because they didn't get the update yet and other crashers | 08:32 |
| seb128 | thanks | 08:33 |
| * chrisccoulson wishes he had more positive feedback on his tracker SRU | 08:37 | |
| robert_ancell | hi all# | 08:53 |
| pitti | hey robert_ancell | 08:53 |
| * robert_ancell found totem very hard to merge with debian. So many changes... | 08:53 | |
| pitti | robert_ancell: what are you looking at, the MoM output? | 08:54 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: I usually do interdiff -z -p1 debian.diff.gz ubuntu.diff.gz | 08:54 |
| pitti | and then see which of the delta is important | 08:54 |
| robert_ancell | pitti: it was more deciphering what the changes were, why they were done, and if they were debian/ubuntu specific | 08:54 |
| robert_ancell | I files a bug with Debian with the changes in Ubuntu that I think are applicable to them | 08:55 |
| robert_ancell | And I want to push the BBC changes upstream as there's at least 3 versions of that patch floating around | 08:55 |
| pitti | oh yes, I guess that caused a lot of delta | 08:56 |
| pitti | robert_ancell: another major thing might be the codec install stuff? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | hello robert_ancell | 08:56 |
| seb128 | sorry I had to reboot to test changes | 08:57 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: hey | 08:57 |
| seb128 | pitti: the codec install is upstream gstreamer code | 08:57 |
| seb128 | pitti: we only customize the application called using a configure option | 08:57 |
| pitti | ah, I thougth we needed debian/ubuntu stuff for calling g-a-i | 08:57 |
| pitti | I keep mixing that up | 08:57 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: I'm not sure about BBC plugin in debian, they don't have a good infrastructure for translations | 08:57 |
| robert_ancell | Hey do you guys know why when I tried to put GDL in BZR I got the following error: | 08:57 |
| robert_ancell | bob@alchemy2:~/bzr/gdl$ bzr push lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdl/ubuntu | 08:58 |
| robert_ancell | bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdl/ubuntu": No such project: gdl | 08:58 |
| seb128 | because there is no gdl project registered on launchpad | 08:58 |
| seb128 | that's a stupid limitation if you ask me | 08:58 |
| pitti | at some time LP will grow package branches | 08:58 |
| seb128 | but it's easy enough to register the project | 08:58 |
| pitti | but for now we only have branches on projects | 08:58 |
| seb128 | we do it to be able to open upstream tasks anyway | 08:59 |
| seb128 | just nobody came and did this one yet | 08:59 |
| robert_ancell | ok, cool | 08:59 |
| robert_ancell | how to register a project? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | https://edge.launchpad.net/projects/+new | 09:01 |
| seb128 | hum, maybe not wait | 09:01 |
| seb128 | I think that's this one | 09:02 |
| pitti | right, it is | 09:02 |
| seb128 | I've not done that for a while so I'm not sure now, but I think that's this one | 09:02 |
| robert_ancell | ok, registering now | 09:03 |
| robert_ancell | that seemed to work, thanks | 09:06 |
| robert_ancell | I'm heading off soon, anything anyone want to cajole me into doing tomorrow? | 09:07 |
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| seb128 | robert_ancell: what did you do today? managed to get the totem updates done? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: do you still have things on your list to merge or update? | 09:08 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: yes, I've done all the merges/updates I had listed | 09:09 |
| seb128 | did you get the gdm merge on your list? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | I think I mentioned it the other day to do but I'm not sure if you are interested in that one | 09:09 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: no, when I asked you yesterday it sounded like we should discuss at UDS first due to the missing features | 09:10 |
| robert_ancell | I wouldn't say gdm excites me | 09:10 |
| seb128 | that's the new gdm discussion | 09:10 |
| seb128 | we might want to merge the current one with debian, ie rebase our version on their current one | 09:10 |
| seb128 | ok so don't bother, it's a fairly non trivial one and I know the package I will do it | 09:10 |
| robert_ancell | ok | 09:11 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell: I will drop you an email with some suggestions for tomorrow later | 09:11 |
| robert_ancell | seb128: ok, thanks. | 09:11 |
| robert_ancell | see you guys tomorrow! (two days and then I'll catch you all in Barcelona!) | 09:12 |
| seb128 | and we really need to have a team discussion about better workflow at uds | 09:12 |
| robert_ancell | two work days that is | 09:12 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:12 |
| pitti | see you robert_ancell, good night! | 09:12 |
| seb128 | have fun, see you tomorrow | 09:12 |
| robert_ancell | later pitti! | 09:12 |
| * seb128 does some sponsoring | 09:14 | |
| seb128 | lut crevette | 09:15 |
| crevette | hi there | 09:16 |
| crevette | hey seb128, thanks for the kick in the butt on the bluez bug :) | 09:20 |
| crevette | as I took a hal day off to take care of my son, I could manage to update to 4.39 | 09:21 |
| seb128 | you're welcome ;-) | 09:21 |
| seb128 | ah good | 09:21 |
| crevette | hey new gvfs | 09:24 |
| seb128 | indeed | 09:26 |
| crevette | seb128: ah btw I had to sleep yesterday evening, did I answer to your questions? | 09:30 |
| seb128 | yes thanks | 09:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks: dunno how busy you will be today but do you think you can add "review bug #375843" to your list? | 09:39 |
| crevette | okay great | 09:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 375843 in anjuta "Update to 2.27.1" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375843 | 09:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks: that's a sponsoring request | 09:39 |
| seb128 | hum ok | 09:56 |
| * seb128 bounced robert_ancell sponsoring requests to "needwork" | 09:56 | |
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| seb128 | pitti: do we have karmic retracers yet? | 10:32 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, no, we don't (apport is not enabled yet) | 10:32 |
| pitti | we need to build a karmic chroot | 10:32 |
| seb128 | right, that's what I though | 10:32 |
| * pitti adds to TODO list | 10:33 | |
| seb128 | I might have a look this afternoon if I'm done with other things on my list | 10:33 |
| seb128 | I will let you know before starting working on that if I do | 10:33 |
| pitti | cool, thanks | 10:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok. I do it just after lunch (but will be able to upload @home) | 10:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks: don't bother if it depends on the new gdl I didn't check | 10:39 |
| seb128 | that one is not ready for upload | 10:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks: btw I comment on the gnome-python-extras bug | 10:39 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok | 10:39 |
| didrocks | ah, looking at it | 10:39 |
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| chrisccoulson | should any application depend on a particular icon theme? | 11:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm looking at bug 375917 | 11:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 375917 in cheese "Cheese should be dependend on gnome-icon-theme" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375917 | 11:05 |
| chrisccoulson | shouldn't it ship it's own fallback icons? | 11:05 |
| james_w | I believe so | 11:06 |
| asac | yeah | 11:06 |
| asac | so from what i read in bug, it definitly shouldnt behave that badly if there is no specific icon theme imo | 11:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i can't confirm it yet because i'm, at work, but if what the reporter says is true then it should ship it's own icons then rather than depending on gnome-icon-theme | 11:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: I answered on gnome-python-extras bug | 11:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks: python-gnome2-extras-dbg has lot of .so in jaunty though for all the components | 11:36 |
| seb128 | didrocks: your merge only has 1 | 11:36 |
| seb128 | no? | 11:36 |
| didrocks | seb128: I checked for gtkhml2. I thought it was related. Let me check the dbg package. | 11:37 |
| didrocks | so, gtkspell.so | 11:39 |
| pitti | seb128: looking into retracer chroots now; I'd like to have them anyway for checking some uninstallability bits | 11:39 |
| didrocks | is on its own package | 11:39 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok | 11:39 |
| didrocks | the package is not build with gda, gdl either, gksu is on its own package. I must have a look for trayicon | 11:40 |
| didrocks | also | 11:40 |
| seb128 | hum? | 11:40 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, so. I have to find a way to include them in the dbg package | 11:40 |
| didrocks | and so, reshaping all in one. | 11:40 |
| seb128 | I don't understand what you are saying | 11:40 |
| seb128 | you didn't split all those dbg did you? | 11:40 |
| didrocks | no, but as thos libs are now in seperated packages and I didn't create one -dbg one for each, they are just not built | 11:41 |
| didrocks | (the debug version) | 11:41 |
| seb128 | right | 11:42 |
| seb128 | I would expect having all those dbg in -dbg though | 11:42 |
| didrocks | I have to make a trick in debian/rules so, gathering everything | 11:42 |
| didrocks | yes | 11:42 |
| seb128 | ok cool | 11:42 |
| didrocks | I'm working on that right now :) | 11:42 |
| didrocks | I think it will be easy, regarding debian/rules | 11:43 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: good day! have you had a chance to look at gnome-utils? I pushed the final change to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~amoog/gnome-utils/devel and I think it's ok now. I tested multiple times and it works. | 11:44 |
| seb128 | hi Ampelbein, I will do that after lunch | 11:45 |
| Ampelbein | ok | 11:45 |
| pitti | seb128: karmic chroots created (i386/amd64), let's see how they perform | 11:53 |
| pitti | seb128: I expect that the existing karmic crash reports will just be invalidated | 11:54 |
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| seb128 | pitti: you rock, yeah it's ok since are moving fast in karmic anyway | 12:19 |
| didrocks | seb128: I will do the change tonight as there is no hurry. I'm some kind of under fire today :) | 12:27 |
| seb128 | didrocks: ok, good luck with the fire fighting then | 12:27 |
| didrocks | thanks | 12:27 |
| lool | asac: Hey, I'm still running jaunty and I wanted to try out firefox-3.5; it segfaults after copying over my profile | 12:33 |
| lool | asac: Is this of any interest, or should I simply move on to karmic? | 12:33 |
| lool | same thing without gnome-support | 12:42 |
| asac | lool: does it work better with a fresh profile? | 12:44 |
| asac | like moving whole .mozilla away? | 12:44 |
| seb128 | vuntz: so gnome-panel has 6 seconds of busy time on my laptop config | 13:25 |
| seb128 | vuntz: when it's starting I mean, it's 1 second with empty bars, 3 extra seconds for the menu use and almost not difference for the other standard panel applets | 13:26 |
| seb128 | vuntz: then some small bits for other applets | 13:26 |
| seb128 | so half of the startup time is due to the menu applet apparently | 13:26 |
| vuntz | seb128: can you try something fun? | 13:27 |
| seb128 | yes | 13:27 |
| vuntz | seb128: sudo mv /usr/share/applications /usr/share/applications.test | 13:27 |
| vuntz | seb128: hrm. Actually, no | 13:27 |
| seb128 | let's try | 13:27 |
| seb128 | I'm using kvm for testing ;-) | 13:27 |
| vuntz | this will break gnome-session, I guess | 13:27 |
| seb128 | why? | 13:27 |
| vuntz | it will look for gnome-panel.desktop and won't find it | 13:28 |
| seb128 | the session components are in /usr/share/gnome/autostart | 13:28 |
| seb128 | hum right | 13:28 |
| seb128 | I can move everything which is not in the session though to try | 13:28 |
| vuntz | seb128: well, yeah, you get the idea :-) | 13:29 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 13:30 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 13:30 |
| pitti | kenvandine: if the applet never stops spinning, but syncdaemon.log is quiet, did you see that before? | 13:39 |
| mnemo | pitti: that happens right now on my machine as well (for u1), it spun all night and I less less than 1mb of files | 13:41 |
| mnemo | s/less/have/ | 13:42 |
| pitti | ah, disconnecting and connecting seems to have help | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | pitti: yes | 13:43 |
| pitti | ed | 13:43 |
| pitti | it might have gotten confused because I just switched networks several times | 13:43 |
| pitti | this needs network-manager integration | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | pitti: i don't think that is it.. my desktop box tends to do that | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | pitti: i think it does | 13:43 |
| kenvandine | pitti: out of 3400 files... right now 2 aren't in sync :) | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | so not to bad | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | pitti: yeah, if the network goes down the applet disconnects | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | and comes back when the network comes back | 13:47 |
| pitti | that sounds right then | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | and it rescans | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | which is slow now | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | so now when i bounce the network connection on my desktop, my disk churns for a couple minues | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | minutes even | 13:48 |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:48 |
| pitti | seb128: retracer failure is a syntax error, my bad; uploading fix | 13:50 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok | 13:50 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll restart them once it's in the archive | 13:50 |
| pitti | well, I'll apply it inline, faster | 13:51 |
| seb128 | vuntz: so moving the applications directory away change the busy pick from 3 seconds to 0.3 seconds | 13:51 |
| lool | asac: Sorry removed it in the mean time | 13:51 |
| lool | asac: I'm dist-upgrading | 13:51 |
| vuntz | seb128: cool | 13:51 |
| asac | lool: ok | 13:51 |
| seb128 | vuntz: we need a .desktop cache ;-) | 13:51 |
| vuntz | seb128: yep | 13:51 |
| asac | lool: if it still fails in karmic let us know | 13:52 |
| vuntz | seb128: the question is: "do we want a per-system cache, or per-user cache" | 13:52 |
| seb128 | I think I've already ready this question | 13:52 |
| seb128 | ready -> read | 13:52 |
| vuntz | seb128: I would prefer per-system | 13:52 |
| seb128 | can we get per directory? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | ie the way the gtk icon cache is working | 13:52 |
| lool | asac: k | 13:53 |
| vuntz | seb128: oh, that makes sense | 13:53 |
| vuntz | my main worry is that such caches are no fun for packages | 13:54 |
| seb128 | we do it for icons already | 13:54 |
| seb128 | so having the same logics for desktops is not going to make a real difference | 13:54 |
| seb128 | pitti: I guess changing poppler soname now if the binaries stay in new is not an issue? | 14:13 |
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| seb128 | hey rickspencer3 | 14:13 |
| pitti | seb128: that's fine | 14:13 |
| rickspencer3 | hi seb128 | 14:13 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3, good morning | 14:13 |
| seb128 | pitti: ok, I'm going to upload 0.11 then | 14:13 |
| rickspencer3 | buen dia | 14:13 |
| lool | vuntz: The main issue with the icon caches are the fact that the cache covers a deep hierarchy of dirs and files, so the mtime of the toplevel dir is not enough to tell whether the cache is newer or not than the latest installed files | 14:14 |
| vuntz | lool: yeah, but for desktop files, that's not that much of an issue | 14:15 |
| lool | vuntz: also in deb packaging we now have a facility to run commands when files are installed in specific dirs; if all the .desktop are installed immediately below one dir, it's easy to handle | 14:15 |
| lool | vuntz: Exactly my point: it was really a pain with icons, but for .desktop files it's probably ok, as long as you don't change the layout | 14:15 |
| vuntz | lool: (although you can have subdirs; but you generally don't have 10 subdirs... And then we can look at their mtime too) | 14:16 |
| lool | One thing which would be nice is having the cache in the dir above the .desktop files; that way you can be sure that your cache is up-to-date | 14:16 |
| vuntz | assuming that listing the content of a directory that's not in the disk cache isn't too slow, of course | 14:16 |
| lool | vuntz: It's not good if you can have subdirs, because stating all files below a dir takes time (disk seeks) | 14:16 |
| vuntz | lool: hrm. | 14:17 |
| vuntz | /usr/share/desktop.cache? beeeeh :-) | 14:17 |
| lool | stating a single file + single dir is much faster than stating hundreds of files to check whether they are subdirs | 14:17 |
| vuntz | let's do it in /var in that case | 14:17 |
| lool | vuntz: I don't have an issue with /usr/share/desktop.cache but you could easily make that /usr/share/desktop-caches/desktop.cache, /applications.cache etc. | 14:18 |
| lool | or /var if you like | 14:18 |
| lool | I don't think /var or /usr makes a big difference, unless your cache is arch specific | 14:18 |
| lool | (/usr is for package data files; the cache will match what's in /usr and only be updated when you install .desktop files to /usr, so usually during package updates; some people argue that this is a FHS violation, but this is IMO wrong) | 14:19 |
| vuntz | lool: it's likely to be arch-specific, though | 14:19 |
| vuntz | isn't the icon cache arch-specific? | 14:19 |
| lool | vuntz: That's to be avoided IMO; think of $HOME .desktop files | 14:19 |
| lool | vuntz: I think it's not | 14:20 |
| lool | It's mmap-able and meant to work over NFS homes IIRC | 14:20 |
| vuntz | oh, then we can probably do it the same way | 14:20 |
| pitti | seb128: \o/ bug 373007 | 14:21 |
| ubottu | Bug 373007 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/373007 is private | 14:21 |
| lool | vuntz: Concerning hierarchies of .desktop files: the full hierarchy is never used directly, right? I mean by default only the files directly below /usr/share/applications are used | 14:21 |
| seb128 | pitti: excelllent | 14:21 |
| vuntz | lool: no | 14:22 |
| lool | vuntz: If you have to explicitely request the inclusion of e.g. /screensavers, then it's ok: we have a way to check the caches freshness with a single stat() | 14:22 |
| vuntz | lool: if an app requests gnome-blablabla.desktop and /usr/share/applications/gnome-blablabla.desktop doesn't exist, we can look at /usr/share/applications/gnome/blablabla.desktop (iirc) | 14:22 |
| lool | ah | 14:22 |
| vuntz | (fun) | 14:23 |
| vuntz | I'd need to check the spec again to be 100% sure | 14:23 |
| lool | vuntz: Then you could perhaps consider one cache file per real dir; before scanning a dir you check whether it has a corresponding cache file, if it does you compare the stats before using the cache, otherwise you scan the dir as currently done | 14:23 |
| lool | That is, if you want to make sure your cache is really fresh; if you go for a single cache, you can't be sure I think | 14:23 |
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| pitti | seb128: I don't see testing feedback on bug 368508? | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368508 in libical "don't crash on incorrect values or errors" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368508 | 16:55 |
| seb128 | pitti: comment #10 | 16:56 |
| seb128 | "FIX CONFIRMED here - Clicking onto calendar button no longer crashes evolution." | 16:56 |
| pitti | oh, I see; thanks | 16:56 |
| seb128 | comment #13 | 16:56 |
| seb128 | "If I have the expected version, I can confirm that the 'crash' of calendar updates no longer occurs " | 16:56 |
| seb128 | pitti: you're welcome, sorry for the bug log being confusing | 16:57 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3: ping | 17:05 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine: 'sup kenvandine | 17:05 |
| rickspencer3 | ? | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3: still having the evo/indicator problem? | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | quit evo, and run this | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | /usr/lib64/indicator-applet/listen-and-print | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | then start evo | 17:05 |
| kenvandine | and send me the output of listen-and-print | 17:05 |
| seb128 | did you try in a guest session? | 17:06 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine: yes, but haven't had time to look into it | 17:06 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3: yeah... and that too | 17:06 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3: when you can, please do that | 17:06 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: yes, it sort of worked | 17:06 |
| rickspencer3 | on call now, will ping back soon | 17:06 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:06 |
| seb128 | "sort of worked" ;-) | 17:07 |
| * kenvandine thinks it is pretty binary :) | 17:07 | |
| kenvandine | there or not... | 17:07 |
| kenvandine | humm | 17:07 |
| * kenvandine heads to lunch | 17:07 | |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: yeah, indicator-applet crashed on load | 17:08 |
| rickspencer3 | but worked when it reloaded | 17:08 |
| seb128 | the crash might be interesting to ted | 17:08 |
| seb128 | but that means it's correctly installed and capable to work | 17:08 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128: right, need to make time to follow up | 17:08 |
| seb128 | which is already an indication | 17:08 |
| pitti | bryce: wow, people say good things about -intel 2.7.1 | 17:11 |
| bryce | pitti: sweet | 17:44 |
| bryce | pitti: btw I've been getting questions about if 2.7.1 could be backported to jaunty | 17:45 |
| bryce | pitti: I've been telling them "Against SRU team policy" | 17:45 |
| bryce | pitti: but let me know if I should be thinking otherwise | 17:46 |
| artir | does it use UXA or EXA | 17:46 |
| artir | ? | 17:46 |
| bryce | it should support either | 17:47 |
| pitti | bryce: nothing wrong with jaunty-backports | 17:47 |
| bryce | 2.8 is where they're dropping exa | 17:47 |
| bryce | pitti: not sure | 17:47 |
| pitti | bryce: wrt. -updates, that sounds inappropriate, even more so at this time when it hasn't been tested widely yet | 17:47 |
| artir | ok, thanks | 17:48 |
| bryce | pitti: ok thanks for confirming | 17:50 |
| darren8808 | what is the command to leave a channel? | 17:56 |
| pitti | darren8808: /quit | 17:57 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - would you object to uploading a snapshot of tracker from git master in to karmic? (there will be a proper 0.7.0 release later this cycle) | 17:58 |
| darren8808 | thanks | 17:58 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no, that's fine | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | cool. the only reason i ask is because libtrackerclient is not API stable yet, but there is only 1 package in the archive using that at the moment (totem-plugins), and it may be possible to disable that plugin for now | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | it will need porting to the new API at some point | 18:02 |
| pitti | I'm off for today, see you tomorrow! | 18:48 |
| chrisccoulson | does devicekit have an upstream bug tracker? | 19:08 |
| cj | what's the notification tool called and how do I configure where it pops up the notifications? | 19:09 |
| mclasen | chriscoulson: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/ | 19:13 |
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| chrisccoulson | mclasen - thanks:) | 19:33 |
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| * chrisccoulson wonders if his floppy drive is polled for long enough whether it will die a slow, painful and much needed death | 20:58 | |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: hey | 21:32 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 21:32 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: is there any reason why we need that vala divergence over debian? | 21:32 |
| seb128 | that seems not a good idea to me | 21:32 |
| seb128 | we have no ubuntu maintainer for it and being in sync is handy | 21:32 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - bug 374151 | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 374151 in vala "MIR for vala" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374151 | 21:33 |
| chrisccoulson | the changes have been sent to debian too | 21:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i spoke to the debian maintainer and he's committed one of the changes already | 21:33 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: I've notice the build-depends bug being fixed, will then change the | true too? | 21:39 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i spoke to elmarco who committed the build-dep fix, and he suggested to ping slomo about that | 21:39 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't know where he hangs out though ;) | 21:39 |
| chrisccoulson | i suppose i could just open another bug report in debian | 21:40 |
| seb128 | slomo joins this chan regularly | 21:43 |
| ror | slomo? | 21:44 |
| seb128 | ror: is that a question? | 21:45 |
| ror | sorry it was thinking out loud, wasn't really supposed to type that | 21:46 |
| ror | I once knew a coder who went by the name of slomo many years ago, but I suppose it's a fairly common name really | 21:46 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks seb128 - i'll ask him about it when he's about | 21:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: thanks | 21:47 |
| === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 | ||
| * chrisccoulson is annoyed that some people prefer to write insults and criticisms on bug reports rather than actually be helpful | 22:42 | |
| mnemo | chrisccoulson: yea, especially when they _choose_ themselves to install this _free_ thing that _rocks_ | 23:03 |
| ror | just cos something's free it doesn't give it an excuse to be shit! (I think ubuntu has shown this enough) | 23:04 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: hey, i've got some free time to spare, is there anything urgent you want me to do? | 23:11 |
| seb128 | Ampelbein: do you want to have a go at merging abiword? | 23:13 |
| Ampelbein | seb128: i can have a look at it, yeah. | 23:13 |
| seb128 | thanks | 23:13 |
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