[15:45] <shadeslayer> hi i was wondering if ubuntu-mid would run on my laptop,i would just like to try out the GUI 
[15:45] <shadeslayer> its a XPS M1530
[15:47] <shadeslayer> and one more thing,the UNR and MID are 2 different things right?
[15:47] <ogra> should be possible, yes ... 
[15:47] <ogra> UNR and MID are different, yes
[15:48] <shadeslayer> ogra: ok thanks,just wanted to give it a shot and see if it improves battery life ;)
[15:48] <ogra> MID rather targets the smaller screens and doesnt use any GL stuff in the UI while UNR fully relies on GL capable hardware and rather targets resolutions like 1024x600
[15:48] <shadeslayer> ogra: ok
[15:49] <shadeslayer> i have 1440X900
[16:39] <jussi01> Is this the correct channel for UNR? if not, could someone direct me to the correct channel?
[16:46] <ian_brasil> jussi01: maybe just ask your question?
[16:47] <jussi01> ian_brasil: just trying to make sure Im on topic. 
[16:47] <jussi01> anyway.
[16:49] <jussi01> Hrm, never mind, my issue fixed itself. sorry to have bothered.
[17:42] <shadeslayer> how do i switch b/w gnome and the MID UI ?
[17:49] <shadeslayer> ping....
[17:56] <shadeslayer> i feel like i wasted 1 hr in dowloading this thing :(
[17:57] <ogra> the MID image doesnt have any gnome packages 
[17:57] <ogra> so there is nothing to switch to
[17:57] <shadeslayer> ogra: apt-cache search ubuntu-mid gave me ubuntu-mid - The Ubuntu MID system
[17:58] <ogra> oh, no idea how you make that work at all
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ogra: so what about the clutter interface?
[17:58] <ogra> thats UNR
[17:58] <ogra> not MID
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ogra: no i *mean* the clutter interface of ubuntu MID
[17:59] <ogra> there is no clutter interface of ubuntu MId
[17:59] <shadeslayer> http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20080624/ubuntu_MID_screen_shot_6.24.2008.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.cnet.com/newsblog/%3Fkeyword%3DUbuntu&usg=__u-M8hjSiybO5oIEX_IYv8kezqTY=&h=199&w=340&sz=11&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=7Imnx2sbZhZHQM:&tbnh=70&tbnw=119&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dubuntu%2BMID%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
[17:59] <shadeslayer> sorry for the flood
[17:59] <ogra> that was mobile-basic-flash i think, it doesnt exist anymore
[18:00] <ogra> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/mobile-basic-flash
[18:00] <shadeslayer> gah... ok no problems then...ill remove this,since i have no use for it
[18:00] <ogra> its a fullscreen flash app, not clutter afaik
[18:01] <shadeslayer> ogra: ok,gotcha
[18:14] <ian_brasil> shadeslayer: that was a clutter mock up done upstream which was never pursued further
[18:15] <ian_brasil> the flash interface was different - blue with sort of scroll handles either side http://ianlawrence.info/images/ume_flash.png
[18:15] <ian_brasil> neither exist anymore
[18:17] <lool> I think the clutter version worked to some extent, but was not really completed and needed porting to clutter 0.8
[18:24] <ian_brasil> i would like to see an updated clutter interface for MID
[19:46] <GrueMaster> The clutter-ui in the link above was in moblin1.0 as a preview.
[19:47] <GrueMaster> Unfortunately, clutter requires working GL driver support, something severely lacking for the target MID platform.
[19:49] <GrueMaster> Clarification:  It will run with the vesa driver and software GL, but it will be very slow.  Like playing doom3 in vista on a 386.
[19:49] <GrueMaster> (if it were possible).