[00:10] unop called the ops in #ubuntu (jake_ flooding the room) [00:14] unop called the ops in #ubuntu () [00:30] did jake get a ban yet? [00:30] he's got one in #ubuntu-women for flooding and he's flooded in #kubuntu and #ubuntu. i saw floodbot hitting him in #ubuntu [00:30] jake did in #u [00:30] ok [00:31] he was kicked out of #u, but no ban [00:31] yeah, he was. [00:31] might have been a mispaste though [00:31] D-B-O hit him [00:32] Myrtti: he was holding down a key on teh keyboard hitting enter after every few hundred char so that the screen filled with that letter for about 10 messages then he'd switch letters... [00:32] thats what he did in k and u-w before [00:32] and then today he was pasting > 50 char of different channels into each other [00:32] given the *number* of times he got muted/kicked... [00:32] er, > 50 lines sorry [00:34] alright well just wanted to check. buh bye [00:40] nini [00:42] * genii goes for maco's cookies [00:42] :o [00:42] Pici: :) [01:09] @login [01:09] Error: You are not identified [01:09] yes I am [01:09] @login Amaranth [01:09] @btlogin [01:09] * genii sips [01:10] grr [01:12] Am|Work: Strangely you're +o in -offtopic too [01:16] Am|Work: I see no ban for 'Traveler', but note, thats the freenode java applet [01:20] jake #kubuntu [01:21] Got it [01:21] i see that [01:22] he's ban evading :-/ [01:23] Bleh [01:23] n=jake@216-188-236-30.dyn.grandenetworks.net <-- before [01:24] Guess we'll see if he re-appears after a while [01:25] I'm going to place a ban on freenode's java client in -offtopic. Any complaints? [01:25] he just came back into ubuntu-women again, but i caught him as soon as he joined. only got two messages in before the kick :) [01:39] ugh, /whowas jake almost flooded me [01:40] Pici: "Traveler" might not have bans on him, but i never thought he was up to any good [01:41] LjL: Agreed. If they want back in, they can use mibbit and be less anonymous. [01:42] Pici: how anonymous is the freenode client? [01:43] LjL: er, I for some reason mistook java with a real web gateway... no matter though,, we have bans placed for that in #ubuntu too [01:45] i'd make that not very permanent if at all possible, keep in mind they can join with the same addresses using real clients, and keep in mind /who *java*user*freenode* has a few people [01:47] LjL: The #ubuntu ban has been in place for as long as I've been an operator [01:47] LjL: dont forget jake_ ....which, by the way, has another IP address on it with a later timestamp [01:47] Pici: it's been in place for as long as i've been an operator, too. [01:47] which might be part of why it's never been removed :) [01:48] still anyway, the #ubuntu-proxy-users topic among other things mentions we're less strict about #ubuntu-offtopic access [01:57] Hm. /whois I_Hate_Freedom shows #houstonhackerspace . [01:57] not all hackers are bad [01:58] Pici: This is true. Real hackers just want to know how things work. [02:03] In ubottu, LjL said: navit is Navit is a free street mapping and GPS navigation program with spoken directions, which can use data from several vector map formats - Ubuntu packages can be downloaded at http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Download_Navit#Ubuntu [02:04] In ubottu, LjL said: !no maps is Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes !GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !Navit, !Roadnav (GTK, free vector maps from Tiger and OSM, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary) [02:10] uh oh, "another" "anyone need some help" fellow [02:11] LjL: I noticed he/she hasn't jumped in with any assistance yet though [02:12] genii: they might be doing it in PM, which is what the last one of these did. [02:12] Ah, OK. Yeah that could be bad, if they are inept/malicious [02:17] Jake again in #k [02:17] Making threats, etc [02:18] Do they ever actually come here? [02:21] Perhaps I should have just devoiced and referred here but he was 1) making threat to DOS 2)ban evading [02:22] so perhaps not [02:22] OK [02:23] hey, i'm no one. i'm just sayin'. [02:26] * genii prepares more coffee [02:27] genii: in #ubuntu-women, i used *!?=jake@* ...maybe to be slightly more conservative than i am without just leaving it up to a router power cycle, you could *!?=jake@*.hot.res.rr.com [02:31] maco: Done now [02:31] maybe that'll slow him down a bit [02:32] who wanna start a "static addresses for the people (and especially the trolls)" campaign? [02:35] Where do I sign up? [02:38] genii: on this cheque. wait, it only looks like a cheque, of course [02:38] * genii signs his life away [02:39] genii: i'm afraid you've just renounced all ability to buy, possess or consume coffee. [02:39] Uhoh [02:40] I'll shrivel and die [04:21] * genii sneaks some coffee [04:36] hello i was wondering if i can be unbanned from the ubuntu offtopic channel [04:38] @login [04:38] The operation succeeded. [04:38] @btlogin [04:39] * genii prods Pici [04:39] screamsayonara, what were you banned for? [04:40] Repeated swearing :) [04:41] swearing.... [04:41] im a linguistics student ok, i like to push the boundaries [04:42] it was a long time ago, im actually a really nice and intelligent girl..... [04:42] i think i understand now that as much as i know about language, archaic attidues still prevail and im fine with that [04:42] i wont swear :\ [04:43] and i <3 ubuntu [04:46] screamsayonara: The op responsible currently isn't here, unfortunately [04:49] ok thanks anyway... [05:11] Well, it's a night for me. [05:35] * jdong toasts a shot of bourbon to #ubuntu-ops :). You guys are in my heart on my 21st b-day. [06:38] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:38] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:42] jdong: best wishes your way, what a great age to be [06:43] ikonia: thanks man. I've heard every b-day from this point on is downhill :) [06:43] jdong: nonsense [06:43] it's all good [06:43] and rest assured I'm a good-behaved drunk person ;-) [06:43] ikonia: well I'll take your words and soar with em :) [06:44] ha, I have /kick jdong aliased ready for typcial druken abuse ;) [06:44] jdong: are you doing anything special for your big day ? [06:45] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:45] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:45] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [06:46] ikonia: I'm a tad antisocial. Nothing pleases me more than chatting with a handful of close friends and sipping a bit of whiskey. [06:46] perfect [06:46] :) it is my idea of a perfect b-day. [06:46] wow, no one caught by the exploit attempts [06:46] mrgh [06:47] oh, only on the second one [06:47] mornings suck [06:47] why am I awake.... [06:47] yes they do [06:48] hmm, where's LjL when you need him [06:48] Amaranth: only caught after the warning [06:48] ikonia: you are up early? [06:48] every day [06:49] * Amaranth goes to bed [06:49] time for work [06:56] h00k called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (brucelee) [06:56] dealt with [06:57] !staff theunleet dcc'ing people in multiple channels #math #ubuntu ##windows ##linux [06:57] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:57] !staff |theunleet dcc'ing people in multiple channels #math #ubuntu ##windows ##linux [06:57] theunleet dcc'ing people in multiple channels #math #ubuntu ##windows ##linux: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, Vorian, PriceChild or stew, I could use a bit of your time :) [06:58] Ah, so it was theunleet that took me out, eh? [06:58] Darn this borrowed router... [06:58] tritium: really ? [06:59] use port 8001 and you wont' have that problem [06:59] ikonia: yes, I'm now using 8001 [06:59] if only freenode could figure out ssl and offer that already [06:59] My DSL modem/router went out on my last week, so I'm borrowing a WRT54Gs, which evidently is exploitable. [07:01] tritium: Odd, it shouldn't be. [07:01] Must be different firmware than what I have. [07:01] Let me check... [07:01] Firmware Version: 7.2.03 build 007, Nov. 8, 2007 [07:01] odd, I have WRT54GC, which is not vulnerable [07:02] Perhaps I should update it for the person I'm borrowing it from. [07:02] Well, if it's not the Linksys router, it's the Actiontec DSL modem I'm also borrowing. [07:03] I have heard others say the WRT54G is vulnerable, but maybe the 'C' is magic :p [07:07] hmm, don't know [07:07] 01:05:55 [ jun__] well first of all, i am just looking for mirc for linux, and then foun this konversation thing [07:08] tritium: 8001 is your friend [07:09] nalioth: agreed [08:28] popey: ping [08:29] popey: can has powersave software? jussi01 at ubuntu.com :) === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [08:56] sure jussi01 [08:57] done [10:02] CaptainMorgan: hi, what's up? [10:04] I'm not sure what's going on, but maybe it's solved now. I couldn't figure out why someone was forcing man pages down my throat -- and I when I agreed they were helpful, they still insisted I needed them... and then others gained up on the issue. Apparently, as it seems resolved, they were contacting the wrong person... still not sure how it happened [10:05] I'll leave now though since it appears squashed, thanks. --Just wanted to make someone aware of it and Flannel didin't appear to be currently active in the regular channel. Thanks again [10:52] can someone please fix appeals to alias appeal? [10:54] 'forget' still locks the factoid up, unfortunately [11:06] !appeals [11:06] Sorry, I don't know anything about appeals [11:06] !unforget appeals [11:06] I suddenly remember appeals again, jussi01 [11:07] !no, appeals is appeal [11:07] I'll remember that jussi01 [11:07] elky: ^^ [11:08] oh. [11:08] stupid bot [11:08] hehe === SWAT_ is now known as SWAT [11:29] response fired at flunkbomb [11:30] if he comes to complain nobody has responded, tell him to check his inbox [12:28] Hello [12:31] can we help you Bacta? [12:31] I would like to get my ban dealt with [12:32] @login [12:32] The operation succeeded. [12:32] btlogin [12:32] @btlogin [12:33] bt? ;) [12:35] ban tracker. [12:35] Not British Telecom, wayyy off [12:37] hello [12:37] hi [12:37] Evening [12:37] Bacta: what is your current status with regards to the ban appeal [12:38] We went through this last night ikonia, I followed the first three steps namely contacting the banning op and discussing it in here [12:38] Bacta: yes, you did say that, hence why I am asking how you've progressed it since then [12:39] I do not wish to send an email to the listed addresses as it's likely a mailing list and I would prefer not to have my message put in front of however many hundreds are on it [12:39] Bacta: it's a small group of the irc council [12:39] No I have not heard anything [12:39] How small? [12:39] Bacta: it really doesn't matter how big/small [12:39] Bacta: if there is something that private - its best not to say it [12:39] It does as far as my privacy is concerned [12:40] Bacta: if you are refering to your pm conversation with me - it will not effect it [12:40] I also write my emails using my real name [12:40] Bacta: 6 people. + the communty council (4?) - its a private list. [12:41] Look I hope you can understand that I'm fairly active in the open source community where I am and I would prefer not to have people coming up to me personally, I know it sounds overly paranoid but maybe you might understand [12:41] Bacta: no-one is coming up to you personally [12:41] Bacta: if your active inthe open source community you should know the rules and not make the jokes about masturbating monkeys [12:41] you knew it was wrong and you - continued to do it [12:41] you've been banned for it at least twice [12:42] so that's not really the best example of your activity in the open source or ubuntu community [12:42] It was a dumb thing to say but "Masturbating Monkey" was a reference to something that came up on one of the security mailing lists I read [12:42] It was in reference to Torvalds [12:42] Bacta: you where banned once for it - you where told it was wrong - you did it again [12:42] so it wasn't dumb - it was intentional [12:42] the quicker you are honest about it - the easier we can progress [12:43] Of course it was intentional [12:43] Bacta: right - so you knew it was wrong and did it again [12:43] why ? [12:43] Why wouldn't it have been? I don't just say things like that by accident, there are obvious thought processes around it [12:43] Because it was a joke but perhaps I misjudged the audience [12:43] Bacta: ok - so you thought about it, knew it was wrong and still did it [12:43] Bacta: you where told the first time you said it, it's not appropriate don't do it [12:43] so again - why did you do it a second time [12:43] I do remember saying it once before but it would've been quite some time ago [12:44] Bacta, our channels are not for trolling, and that is all you ever do in them. Why on earth would we want to let you back in? [12:44] Bacta: it doesn't matter how long ago it was - you where TOLD don't do it again, you thought about it and did it again [12:44] elky: I've been in there a number of times to receive help and I have helped a number of people in there as well [12:44] Bacta: how do I know if I remove the ban you don't do it again [12:44] I may not know much about Ubuntu but I'm quite happy with the advice I have given people in there [12:45] You don't, it's a risk [12:45] All I can say is I'll try my best [12:45] Bacta: ok it's a risk I'm not prepared to take at this time [12:45] and maybe it's a risk we do not want to take. [12:45] Bacta: so I suggest you come back in a months time when you've had time to think about what you did and how best to control your self [12:46] Why would I take time out of my day to "think about what I've done"? It was a dumb thing to say, I'm sorry I said it but in the grand scheme of things it means practically nothing [12:46] Bacta: because I don't want to risk letting you do it again [12:46] All I can say is I'll take a bit more care in how I conduct myself in future [12:47] And I think you have far more serious threats to the channel than the occasional bad joke [12:47] Bacta: because you've done this before and I don't want to risk allowing you back in the channel to do it again [12:47] Bacta: it's offensive and you've proved you can't control yourself at this time [12:47] Bacta: so as I've said, come back in a month and we can re-asses it then [12:50] Bacta: do understand ? [12:50] Perfectly but I do regret now being so honest with you [12:50] ? [12:51] I don't think there is anything you've said that we didn't already know, so you've got nothing to regret [12:51] I could've come in here and got down on my hands and knees screaming to God how sorry I was [12:51] Bacta: yeah, that wouldn't have changed anything [12:51] Bacta: so if you'd like to come back in a month we'll re-asses with you then, [12:51] My past experience elsewhere has shown otherwise [12:51] Bacta: well, that wouldn't have made a difference to me [12:51] Bacta: so lets leave it there and speak again in a month [12:52] You see we can't say that [12:52] ? [12:52] It's done, if I had said things differently there might have been a different result [12:53] Bacta: I don't want to debate if's/buts - so lets talk again in a month [12:53] One more thing [12:53] yes ? [12:53] where would be my first port of call to get my DVD playback issue sorted? [12:54] this is not a support channel [12:54] sorry [12:54] Bacta: lets speak again in a month [12:54] serial, iirc [12:54] very. [12:54] @mark #ubuntu-ops bacta review ban on 14/06/09 [12:54] The operation succeeded. [12:55] Oh, yes. [12:55] seem to remember him from #freenode [12:55] Indeed. And #defocus [12:55] i remember him from the Linuxchix server. [12:55] Ugh. [12:55] wow [12:56] he'll be back before a month [12:57] I'm a little dissapointed freenode didn't remove his cloak for his ban evasion antics, as he seems to value his privicy [12:57] actions = consiquences [12:58] in -ot and #k [12:59] Im watching #k... [13:01] I'm sure he said he was using ubuntu when he was in #ubuntu [13:01] ikonia, i'm pretty sure i dont trust what he says anywhere. [13:02] oh I know, just wondered if I was genuinly wrong [13:02] not worth trying to keep up with that kind of stuff [13:02] no, just wondered [13:03] * Hobbsee waves and issues hugs [13:03] howdy Hobbsee [13:03] Hobbsee, !! [13:03] Hobbsee, spotted bacta i take it? [13:03] heya :) [13:03] hehe [13:03] elky: hey, now there's a thought! [13:04] elky: in truth, no. But that could be extra popcorn material [13:04] * Hobbsee is watching what's going on, and is avoiding her assignment [13:04] :) [13:05] hehe [13:11] jumbers called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Leonheart) [13:12] spoke to hime [13:12] ime [13:12] him even [13:15] can't say he wasn't warning [13:20] trolling continues in #k I see [13:24] well, he's just shown it's a hardware issue - so nothing to do with #kubuntu [13:24] problem solved [13:33] elky: [13:33] and that was that. [13:33] elky: got some popcorn ready? [13:33] * Pici will stay quiet, too many chefs, etc [13:34] or was it chiefs? [13:34] in pm with bacta [13:35] * Pici sighs at -ot [13:35] Hobbsee :P [13:35] Pici: [13:35] * ikonia takes his chef's hat off and hands it to pip [13:35] pici even [13:38] RE: bacta in #k [13:38] [15:37:41] Ok, Im going to give you a 24 hour ban, thank you for your immediate apology. you can try join the channel again 24 hours from now. [13:38] I turn away for real work for a few minutes and the conversation turns to pedophiles [13:38] JUST FYI [13:39] jussi01: is a troll, using caps now [13:39] jussi01: thanks [13:39] ikonia: shush [13:39] so anyone feel free to remove his #kubuntu ban in 24 hours if I forget. [13:40] * ikonia makes a note to forget [13:40] I am kidding of course [13:41] oh dear [13:41] my mum is a dork. she seems to have decided 'lok' is an acceptable way to say 'lol, ok.' [13:41] elky: all yours in -ot [13:42] you know its bad when the ot regs say to change the topic.... [13:43] elky: she is l33t [13:44] ikonia, dont make me stab you. [13:45] ok [13:58] lok. [13:58] topyli: genius [14:09] You guys gonna release my ban today? [14:10] TheFunkbomb, the appeals process is still under way. [14:10] I already got my response [14:10] Who is Melissa? [14:11] actually, scratch that question. I don't care. [14:11] Instead, answer this one. Why do I have to continue to apologize? [14:11] TheFunkbomb, coming here repeatedly wont help your case. [14:11] but I get better answers here. [14:13] I have already apologized for breaking the CoC. I have apologized for the misunderstanding of the whole ballbusting thing. What else is there? [14:13] is anyone actually asking you to apologise here? [14:14] Yes, that would be the case. [14:14] I was told my apology was not sincere enough. [14:14] or that my apology was not for what I did. [14:15] TheFunkbomb, you are on step 4 now, correct? [14:15] ?? [14:16] TheFunkbomb, step 4 of the appeals process [14:16] I have no idea what that is. [14:16] !appeal [14:16] If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. [14:16] TheFunkbomb, check the above link then [14:17] Pretty sure step 4 is over. [14:17] a single response? [14:18] yeah [14:18] the irc council is more than a single person. give it some time. [14:18] if I can step in [14:18] how many responses should I expect? [14:18] elky: has responded on behalf of the council [14:19] aha, then step 5 [14:19] and who deals with step 5? [14:19] TheFunkbomb: elky is Mellisa [14:19] ikonia, I don't really want to hear from you. [14:19] the list linked on that page [14:19] This doesn't need to go past the IRCC..... [14:19] okay sorry Pici [14:19] again the attitude [14:20] You accused me of ban evasion [14:20] TheFunkbomb: Did you read the reply that the Melissa sent to you? [14:20] Pici, I did. I apologized. I don't know what other kind of apology you want. [14:20] TheFunkbomb: if you are in consultation with the irc council, and dealing with this through that avenue, nothing you say or do here is going to make any difference, in a good way. You may as well sit back, and continue to take anything else up with them. [14:21] It's the same people! [14:21] actually, it's a subset of those here [14:21] TheFunkbomb: The people in this channel are not all privy to the list that you sent your message to, they do not know what was said there. [14:22] it's the equivalent of me calling Pici on a mobile phone, and him replying back by a loudspeaker. [14:22] so, might not be quite what you want [14:22] So, if that same subset didn't give a damn here, then why would they give a damn through the email? [14:23] TheFunkbomb: likely because email is asynchronous, and it's not very late night / early morning for most of them. [14:23] when they must reply [14:23] TheFunkbomb: I don't believe that you spoke to anyone here that is on the IRCC in this channel for any length of time. [14:23] Hobbsee: A reply was already sent actually. [14:24] You know what? I don't really care anymore. I apologized. [14:24] Pici: I meant right now, but yes [14:24] You guys have a spectacular day. [14:25] Well then. [14:25] A spectacular day? nah... [14:27] elky was putting soup into the slow cooker [14:27] @mark TheFunkbomb [14:27] @login [14:27] The operation succeeded. [14:27] @mark TheFunkbomb [14:27] The operation succeeded. [14:27] sigh... either the listed md5 sums are wrong, or I just cant get a propper download... *grumble* [14:29] jussi01: Or the image is wrong on the server? [14:30] jussi01: which image? [14:30] gah, someone needs to bust open another spam racket so i can get slow spam days again [14:34] Hobbsee: the unr one [14:37] jussi01: known bug [14:37] * genii makes more coffee [14:37] jussi01: it's a truncated file names problem, pretty much [14:37] Hobbsee: any idea of the actual md5 sum? [14:38] jussi01: not offhand. There's a bug about it somewhere [14:38] * Hobbsee sees it mentioend on irc every few days [14:38] this is what ive got [14:38] jussi@piru:~$ md5sum ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img [14:38] ab19c88f7cf8d1d2b3de1aa26fd1c29b ubuntu-9.04-netbook-remix-i386.img [14:39] used the torrent for download, so hoping its correct [14:52] oh ffs [14:52] it must be wrong md5... [14:52] I get a boot error [15:00] "unsatisfying results" seems to be going around [15:02] hehe [15:02] genii: feel like handling that? Ive a splitting headache... [15:03] jussi01: I'm not up on flash in 9.04 yet :( [15:36] night all [15:37] bye [15:43] yay, finally it worked!! [16:05] Work, /away probably 20-25 minutes [16:27] anything intresting going on? [16:28] doesn anyone know if there is a UNR channel? [16:29] msg alis search unr ? [16:31] * Myrtti pokes popey [16:31] * popey pokes Myrtti back [16:32]