[00:18] is there a way in bash to check to see if a specific process is started by name? [00:19] like an rsync job? [00:21] ps aux? [00:22] aux [00:22] ? [00:22] a command [00:22] "ps aux" [00:23] thats going to give me a list of them right? [00:23] Im looking to schedule a cron job to see if a specific process is running, if not start it again [00:24] a quick way would be to restart it [00:24] if it's got init.d scripts [00:25] nope, like I said, its an rsync job [00:25] these jobs will change daily [00:25] i just want to make sure they run at night [00:25] well, ps is your friend [00:26] it can list out running processes by command line [00:26] you can grep for rysnc [00:26] or even the specific command line you're after [00:26] procs=`ps -ef | grep rsync | wc -l` [00:26] but if i am running multiple rsync's and one goes down... [00:27] that's messy [00:27] giovani: I know :( [00:27] try using pidof [00:27] that's much cleaner [00:27] pidof? [00:27] yep [00:27] can you give an example? [00:27] #pidof apache2 [00:28] read the manpage :) [00:28] it's a useful tool [00:28] sure but... lets say I start two processes like this [00:28] screen rsync --partial --progress --rsh=ssh dfh@dfhserv:/somefiles /somefiles [00:28] two different ones [00:28] yes, and? [00:28] presumably, you'd like to know which of the two fell down [00:29] yes [00:29] so any idears? [00:29] you haven't fully explaing what you want [00:29] im not entirely sure why you need to monitor rsync [00:29] alright [00:29] I have ATT DSL here [00:30] I have a remote server in france [00:30] hundreds of gigs worth of files [00:30] like 5GB generated daily [00:30] I want to get those files daily [00:30] but they are stored in multiple folders on the server [00:30] so lets say I have two different dirs [00:30] /files/a and /files/b [00:30] I want to rsync both of them [00:30] is there a files/c? [00:30] if my internet drops [00:31] yes, however I dont want those [00:31] so i cant just do /files [00:31] if my net drops, rsync dies right? [00:31] screen rsync --partial --progress --rsh=ssh dfh@91.121.193.183:SOURCE DEST [00:31] thats why --partial is in there [00:31] what you could do, is just script out all the rsyncs [00:32] heres what I am doing right now [00:32] its not like this is going to be improved by parallelism [00:32] with 1 process [00:32] why are you screening rsync? [00:32] http://pastebin.com/m462ff5e1 [00:32] so i can see it [00:32] see if somethings up [00:32] haha [00:32] use a log file man [00:32] that's very much an inproper use of screen [00:33] kill -USR1 or something like that [00:33] regardless, I want to run multiple rsyncs because the server will dish at 200k per connection [00:33] I can do up to 3 connections with my DSL then [00:33] pwnguin: log file [00:33] giovani: does rsync log anything of note? [00:33] pwnguin: absolutely, if you want it to [00:33] regardless [00:33] regaaaardless [00:33] would like to run two of them [00:33] cron a check [00:34] screen is not the issue here [00:34] its checking to see if they are indeed running [00:34] well that's not the "right" way to do what you want, is the point [00:35] so if rsync dumps to a log [00:35] can I tail the log and check to see if it died recently? [00:35] of course, but, that's not the issue that we're addressing right now [00:35] hahaha [00:35] alright im open to suggestions [00:35] you wanted to move on from that [00:35] so I'm moving on [00:35] we can come back to it [00:35] I'd write a wrapper for rsync [00:35] i just figured that it might also be the answer [00:36] to check its exit status [00:36] if it exits non-zero, then we know it failed [00:36] so wait [00:36] while [rsync] [00:36] checking ps with cron is MESSY [00:36] and not proper for this [00:36] knowing if an app failed for some reason is the reason we have an exit status [00:36] ok im very new to linux and bash, can you give me an example of this? [00:37] sure, I just found one on google, if you don't want to write one yourself [00:37] http://dyn.yoderhome.com:8080/rsync_retry.pl [00:37] yea i understand exit status I have been programming for a while [00:37] then write a loop [00:37] that script does things properly [00:37] that checks rsync for failures, and repeats until it exits cleanky [00:37] no, a loop is going to be non-intelligent here -- that perl script is actually pretty decent [00:37] cleanly [00:38] it keeps track of the log [00:38] and uses that to exclude transfers its already done [00:39] im investigating it [00:39] alright but wait.... [00:39] this process just RUNS until complete right? [00:39] I dont need to cron this calll [00:40] no ... no cron [00:40] cron is not appropriate for this [00:40] so just run this sucker, in the way he said... lets say I loose internet for 15 minutes [00:40] its gonna call rsync like 100 times during that [00:40] or 100000 [00:40] so put a wait in there [00:40] doesnt matter, eventaully when internet comes back up [00:40] it will call [00:40] I thought you were a programmer? [00:40] giovani: I am, however Im wondering if the overhead is even an issue [00:41] overhead of what, exactly? [00:41] not a perl programmer [00:41] if you're concerned about retry [00:41] a wait/sleep function is not even close to perl-specific [00:41] calling rsync a hundred times a second for 15 minutes [00:41] it's a general programming concept [00:41] completely understand man, however I just wanted to ask [00:41] its unclear to me how you could have the question without knowing the answer [00:42] ? [00:42] you guys have been a big help, thank you [00:42] you're worried about it running too fast, sleep is the first, best and last option (unless it's called wait) [00:42] storrgie: if you're concerned about extended outages like that (and not just connection drops) putting a wait/sleep function in there to wait a minute before restarting rsync will address that [00:43] yep, I added a parameter to the call [00:43] is wait for perl just 'wait(int)' [00:43] google [00:43] i worry [00:43] why not ask here and get a quick answer, if i wasnt on IRC i would be googling [00:43] wait might be some process thing [00:44] storrgie: you should google a simple question like that [00:44] before asking [00:44] im sorry are we making the IRC logs too long? [00:44] nope, it's about putting forth some effort on your own [00:44] the perl function is sleep, not wait, as pwnguin brings up [00:45] yep i see that [00:45] then wait is probably "wait for this process to finish" [00:45] pwnguin: indeed [00:46] i dont even need google to guess these things ;) [00:47] anything networking related with a loop ought to sleep or face someone's wrath [00:48] every once in a while someone doesn't get that memo and our CS department subnet gets banned from google [02:28] anyone running on EC2? [02:35] Hi Roak, these guys are quite in here [02:36] lovegrows: Only if we have nothing to say :) [02:37] true, the other channels can get noisy [02:54] quite quiet, even :) [03:07] * genii quietly makes another pot of coffee [03:10] genii: That's two in less than 24 hours. Are you running a temperature? [03:11] any thoughts on amazons EC2? running ubuntu server [03:11] owh: Nah. Just like my coffee :) === ssd7_ is now known as ssd7 [03:14] Yesterday I got asked about apache and the load balancer under 9.04. The only reason the person asking was leaving 8.04LTS on a production server was to get the load balancer. Is there any notion what would be involved to getting that under 8.04? === hggdh is now known as ger === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [09:14] Hi, i create a partition with cfdisk, it ask to reboot but after that the new partition disappear.why? ubuntu server 8.04 [09:52] hi! [09:52] is there an easy way to migrate from desktop to server? [09:57] acalvo: a server is a desktop with server programs [09:57] and without gui. [09:57] yes [09:57] and that is what i need [09:57] but I hope there is some metapackages you can install that will uninstall everything that needs a desktop [09:57] install the programs and disable gui [09:58] em, well, I'll try === isaac_ is now known as isaac [10:20] andol: do you still plan to handle the nagios3 merge ? I'm about to do it, but I can let it to you if you want to learn the process (and answer any question you may have) [10:22] I thought nagios3 was in main? [10:22] soren: it is. Handle it doesn't mean upload it ;) [10:23] ah :) [10:43] ttx: Yes, I would still like to do the merge. It is just that I have been rather busy at work lately and haven't really felt up to digging into new tasks. [10:43] andol: I'll leave it to you then. [10:44] ttx: Thanks. Actually, I have a day off tomorrow. I'll start looking into the merging process then. [10:44] andol: ok :) [10:44] ttx: Expect questions :P [10:45] andol: do you want to look at nagios-plugins as well ? I just looked at it, it's just slightly more complex. [10:45] think of it as a level 2 exercise :) [10:46] if you don't think you'll have the time, I'll just do it now [10:46] ttx: Well, then I put it second on my list :) [10:46] ok. [10:48] ttx: Anyway, I'm off for work now. Thanks for the offer of help as well as the suggestions. [10:49] andol: you're welcome [12:02] New bug: #375939 in samba (main) "don't delete share directory " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/375939 === asac_ is now known as asac [14:50] anyone get xen running with 9.04? [14:58] I am running an ubuntu server, with a windows share -- on the office WinXP machines, the winShare works just fine, but on the new Win7 machine, I don't seem to have write or execute permissions [15:02] g33k_g1rl, Probably a better question for #samba (if I understand you correctly, that the ubuntu host is the Samba server) [15:02] what is fglrx ? is it open source for linux users to create a better driver or is it ati/amd try at a linux driver? and what is the future hold for this driver......? I have a integrated ati 200m in my hp laptop with 64 bit amd possessor [15:04] coffeedude: thanks, will do === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [16:18] hello [16:18] I foound an entry on syslog: [16:18] May 13 09:20:43 spyman syslogd 1.5.0#2ubuntu6: restart. [16:19] Hey Folks, I have a wireless network card on my server which doesn't seem to have been detected on install. I was curious of how to get it upand running. It's as simple as plug and play on windows but I'm a total n00b with this elegant beast... :-) [16:19] how can I find out the reason for this strange reboot? [16:19] Figure it would be good to know even for when I add another NIC in there for routing purposes [16:22] Strangeness on this end, please excuse if this is a double post but I'm not sure if the previous two went through at all... [16:22] Hey Folks, I have a wireless network card on my server which doesn't seem to have been detected on install. I was curious of how to get it upand running. It's as simple as plug and play on windows but I'm a total n00b with this elegant beast... :-) [16:22] Figure it would be good to know even for when I add another NIC in there for routing purposes [16:22] Again, my apologies if this had already gone through... :-( [16:23] Will Ubuntu Server live happily within a Xen domU? [16:27] ball: Yes. [16:28] hello soren! [16:29] brb, rebooting [16:34] is freenx joining the repo anytime soon does anyone know? [16:46] question. Can someone recommend a web based tech support system to keep records of tech support calls to my organization ? === e-jat is now known as b === b is now known as e-jat [16:56] orudie: I only know of rt. [16:56] request-tracker3.6 - Extensible trouble-ticket tracking system [17:00] Hey all [17:01] I have some questions if anyone has time to answer them. I'm sure they're quick responses. [17:01] !ask summ1else1985 [17:01] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:02] summ1else1985: what are your questions? [17:02] well, I'm trying to set up a server at my workplace [17:02] it's ltsp machine, but for the most part, that software all works fine [17:02] the issue i'm having is whether or not I can create my network in the way I want [17:02] Is there a better channel for such questions? [17:03] Basically the server is statically assigned an address on eth1 [17:03] and then passes out IPs as a DHCP server on eth0 [17:03] That makes sense. [17:04] Are your terminals attached to eth0? [17:04] yep [17:04] the default subnet of the first network (the main one for our branch) is 192.168.252.0 [17:04] errr [17:05] subnet ID [17:05] and for the DHCP server it would be 192.168.0.0 [17:05] That's a subnet mask. [17:05] i would think the subnet mask was 255.255.255.0 [17:05] for both networks [17:06] why would you do that?! [17:06] lol [17:06] it wasn't intentional i promise! [17:06] so where should I go from here [17:06] the clients NEED to see things on the main network [17:06] one thing to be quite precise [17:07] I only care about them seeing one IP address (192.168.252.111) [17:07] summ1else1985: what do they need to see? [17:07] (and why?) [17:07] err 192.168.252.250 is the right one, it's a remote desktop server [17:07] They should get everything they need from the server. [17:07] once they connect to that they will have normal access to the network [17:07] summ1else1985: why though? [17:08] Your terminals shouldn't *need* access to the network [17:08] (the non-terminal Ethernet that is) [17:08] Well, the idea here is that anyone who plugs into the client side of this server (eth0) will PXE boot into an rdesktop session and connect to the Windows 2k Remote Desktop Server [17:08] because the application they need to run must be in DOS (it will not run in an emulator for whatever reason) [17:09] eww. [17:09] yeah [17:09] it's a nasty beast of a project [17:09] if i can get it working... hey awesome and I'll tell everyone how [17:09] I suppose you could configure your Ubuntu Server box as a router [17:09] using iptables? [17:09] (to just that one IP address) [17:10] Using whatever Ubuntu Server uses as a router. [17:10] this particular machine is running Ubuntu 8.10 alternate [17:11] I could have sworn this was supposed to be fun when I undertook it [17:11] I probably would be if you were doing something sane with it. [17:11] yep [17:11] that much is too true [17:12] so you're thinking if I foward everything to that IP address [17:12] that I can see that machine and connect to it [17:12] Not everything. [17:12] Just permit the terminals to open a connection to that host if they request it. [17:12] (for that protocol only) [17:12] cool [17:13] so it's definitely possible [17:13] albeit complicated and ridiculous [17:13] Sounds possible, the tricky part is setting up routing on your Ubuntu Server, which in an ordinary ltsp environment you probably wouldn't need to do. [17:13] I just wanted to know for sure before I spent any more hours reading up on how to configure the routing for such a thing [17:13] yep\ [17:13] that's what I'm finding [17:14] There are alternative approaches, but that's what I would probably try first. [17:14] ok [17:14] i'll be back if I decide that I need to destroy everything and start over [17:15] As I understand it I could have probably just made it so the LTSP server handed IP addresses down from our main DHCP server too? [17:16] Wait, you said that your Ubuntu Server box had a static IP address on the (non-terminal) LAN [17:16] ...but that LAN has a DHCP server? [17:16] well technically it could be DHCP if i wanted [17:16] yep [17:17] I sound stupid for not just using that don't i? [17:17] No, I would still hand them out IP addresses from the Ubuntu Server box [17:17] That server is beginning to come into Lease problems, we recently expanded the pool [17:17] ...since they're on their own Ethernet [17:17] ok [17:18] ...and you probably want to do that anyway to help with the boot. [17:18] yeah [17:40] I've set up a DHCP server with eth0 distributing IP adresses into the network.. everything works fine, but how do I forward a port to my laptop? (with intern IP 192.168.1.2) [17:41] I've opened the port with ufw, but how do I forward it? [17:41] (yes, I'm a novice) [17:41] SFauconnier: why would you? [17:42] my bittorrent client on my laptop will go faster if I open up a port on my server and forward it to my laptop [17:42] That makes no sense to me. [17:42] ball: sorry, I'm really new to all this :) I'll try and explain it again [17:43] Should be an easy question ... I have a colocateed server that I wish to wipe back to stock & standard 9.04 server + openssh-server. Is there any easy way of doing this? [17:43] If your laptop needs access to the Internet, why have it behind your Ubuntu server? === keltor is now known as Keltor|Work [17:44] ball: the server has dhcp installed and acts as a router [17:45] Ah okay. An odd choice, but okay. [17:45] now I need to forward port xxx to my laptop, so it can use bittorrent and battle.net, etc [17:45] SFauconnier: why not use upnp? [17:45] ball: why is that an odd choice? [17:45] Keltor|Work: what's upnp? [17:46] SFauconnier: most windows software will try to have a port opened up via upnp from the router. that way it's automagical [17:46] SFauconnier: most people (I'm assuming this is at home) would run an inexpensive (if hideous) off-the-shelf router that draws about 5 Watts. [17:46] the ufw cli command does not support port redirections. you must edit /etc/ufw/before.rules. See /usr/share/doc/ufw/README.gz for details [17:47] ufw works fine with linux-igd now i believe [17:47] no ... that's debian that it's fully integrated with [17:47] ubuntu removed it entirely [17:48] ball: the server also acts as a local apache and svn server for my 'bussines', for learning purposes I made a router out of it, so I can drop the off-the-shelf one [17:48] and well, learn [17:48] Keltor|Work: thanks, I'll look into that [17:48] Ah okay. [17:49] I have a server here too, but it's behind the router. [17:50] also, I only have a switch and a wireless router, if I were to put the server and the router both behind the switch, my computers and the server wouldn't be connected in a local network anymore (server doesnt have wifi) [17:50] hence I installed dhcp and put the wireless router behind the server (but acting as a bridge, not a router) [17:50] the wireless router takes care of that for you. [17:50] brb, phone [17:51] usually best to get something like a wrt54g, have it do wireless, dhcp, dns, and those basics. then it can port redir to your server [17:52] but there's no fun in that :o) [17:52] I've learned a lot the past 2 days [17:52] just by messing around [17:52] understood [17:52] but thank you for the advice, didnt want to sound cocky [17:52] I appreciate it [17:52] i've gone through a lot of effort lately to reduce my power usage [17:53] i started figuring out my power utilization and realized .... I am wasting $100USD/month on nothing [17:54] my server was aging so I bought a qnap [17:55] the qnap is awesome actually [17:55] 81W in full operation with 1.5TB drives [17:58] how can i launch my znc as my user (chris) [17:58] znc & [18:14] anyone know how I can start/stop/restart upnpd in ubuntu server 9.04? can't find it in /etc/init.d [18:14] Whoops i mean how can i launch znc during boot :D [18:17] hello. i have a tricky question: i have an old gutsy box (dont ask) and i want to upgrade it to hardy over the network. is it possible to a) reinstall the os over the network via ssh or b) upgrade to hardy using the install cd, as with alternate desktop releases of (k)(x)(ed)ubuntu, and how should t be done? thanks! [18:57] someone using fuzzyocr here on Ubuntu ? [19:12] anyone know how i can launch znc as my user on boot?, rc.local is only for launching as root right? [19:15] <_ruben> could try putting: su - youruser -c /path/to/znc in it [19:17] =\ [19:32] Hi, I'm running 9.0.4 with mysql-server-5.1, snort-mysql installed. They are working just fine. I also want to install acidbase but acidbase package has a depency of mysql-client which is the 5.0 client. Any suggestions? [19:52] ClaytonG: you'd have to rebuild the acidbase package [19:53] ClaytonG: and modify the Dependency to list mysql-client-5.1 instead of mysql-client [19:54] hey guys ... have a ubuntu server issue with both network adapters showing down [19:55] the server has ubuntu base running multiple Windows VMWare guests [19:55] all I did was to change the IP address and put the server behind a router and now both interfaces show down no matter what I do ... changing it back to the prior config does no good [20:27] can i run a speedtest from the command line? [20:29] heyy [20:35] LHC hey [20:36] :D [20:37] How are you? [20:38] gd gd, tryin to keep busy haha [20:38] Sound's good! What you trying to keep busy with? [20:39] ahh Im settin up a dedicated server seller site [20:39] going to learn how to make lots of webhosts from one server [20:39] Sweeet! [20:39] amm "podcast" host like libsyn xD [20:39] Sound's good! [20:40] yeah hopefully itll bring in some money [20:40] Best of luck! [20:40] im sure if I do it good people will be willing to pay haha [20:40] thanks [20:40] what about u [20:41] Indeed they will! Just the usual! Trying to learn PHP at the moment [20:41] And ASP.Net [20:42] D: I heard of asp before, is it for corporate things? im not sure [20:42] It's like PHP but microsoft implementation of it [20:42] does it suck? xD [20:43] Haha lol [20:43] Na i kinda like it! [20:43] Taking a course in it at the moment [20:43] online or irl haha [20:44] irl? [20:44] in real life [20:44] Ohh [20:44] Yes lol [20:44] It's part of my university course [20:46] ahh what is your course? [20:46] Business Information Systems [20:46] I do multimedia but may switch to finance or something. I can what the 4th year guys can do except they have a degree haha [20:47] Fair play [20:47] You enjoy it? [20:47] * ball sighs [20:48] not really its quite boring. I like the whole web startup company work place thing and conferences "vibe" but I would rather run the place and do design or dev work rather than be at the bottom haha hope that didnt sound bad [20:48] Haha lool i know what you mean! [20:48] very true! [20:49] ill just have to wait and see haha [20:49] Exactly! [20:49] I need a job. [20:49] ball what job you looking for? [20:50] LyonJT: I don't know. Something. [20:50] Lol no idea at all? [20:50] aha [20:50] Well, if I could take my pick I'd probably work for an ISP [20:51] "beggars can't be choosers" though.. [20:51] BETTER NOT LIMIT MY TORRENTS [20:51] LHC: Torrents are a legitimate and sensible way to distribute medium sized files. [20:51] what sorta things do you need to work for one? [20:51] medium to large. [20:51] I love torrents [20:51] LHC: a local ISP. [20:52] ...with an agreeable boss. [20:52] what sorta work can u do? [20:52] * ball shrugs [20:52]