=== freego is now known as forces [00:38] hi [00:38] My, bluetooth adapter works on my laptop but not on my desktop, both jaunty [00:39] does anyone know if 9.04 when run as LiveCD can read/write on ntfs? [00:39] probably... you may need to install ntfs3g [00:50] My, bluetooth adapter works on my laptop but not on my desktop [00:50] oops, sorry [01:39] New to Linux...how does this support work? Do I just type my question & wait for an answer? [01:42] welcome [01:42] !ask | mib_ftk7r88c [01:42] mib_ftk7r88c: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [01:51] what's the easiset way to change my audio output device? [01:52] I'v sucessfully paired my A2DP Bluetooth device with my LinuxBox, I just need to tell it to send all audio to it instead of the computer speakers [02:21] i'm trying to learn XFCE here, what's the file browser? [02:29] applications->accesories thunar === danopia` is now known as danopia [04:40] http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/66946-2/Scorpion_escalator.gif <<--- LOL! [05:05] How do I set it to lock the edge of the workspace, so that when I mouse to the edge of my workspace it doesn't keep going to desktop #2 [05:06] I changed it yesterday, now I can't remember how to change it back [09:44] Hiyas. Just installed xubuntu alongside XP on a machine with a second HDD that I use for media. How can I get the second HDD to mount? [09:45] !mount [09:45] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [09:45] !fstab [09:45] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [09:46] !ntfs [09:46] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [09:46] Thanks. [09:46] I'm guessing your media partition is ntfs, check the last link :). [09:46] It is. [09:46] I mounted my xp partition as /windows during gparted in setup, kind of winging it. [09:47] did you check your /media/ folder ? [09:48] er... [09:48] cdroms, floppies. [09:49] Ubiquity I meant, not gparted. [09:49] try mounting it then [09:51] Is the command just "mount"? I think I tried that. [09:51] "mount /dev/sdb1" I mean. [10:05] Got it mounted. Now just tracking down how to have it more handy (desktop icon?) than /dev/media/mediadrive/. [10:07] Try checking this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-121090.html [10:08] Seems pretty easy tbh [10:09] Yeah. [10:09] Except that I goofed it up. >.< [10:10] Clicking to launch it now gives me its .desktop fie. [10:10] file. [10:11] does it work when you double click it? [10:11] Nope. [10:11] Suspecting it should be placed in another dir. [10:11] I'm guessing that means "/media/mediadrive/" is not a valid command. [10:12] well. try opening the desktop dir with thunar [10:13] the shortcuts doesn't show, i think it might have to be placed in another dir to work as a desktop link. [10:13] ah. It shows it, but I dont' have permission to open it. [10:14] I'm thinking /usr/local/share/desktop-directories/ [10:14] But sudo thunar doesn't have permission either. [10:14] not sure tho. [10:15] No such place. [10:15] oh. No local in tha tchain, but right otherwise. [10:16] ask SiDi ! [10:16] Surely he knows it :D [10:16] * SiDi wonders where Slonkie has seen a SiDi ! [10:16] Hiya, Sidi [10:16] well, hello [10:16] Or SiDi, rather. [10:17] Would you happen to know how I can create a desktop launcher to the root of sdb1? [10:17] Slonkie, i'm out of strawberries. Drama. [10:17] JackVermicelli: that would open thunar to /dev/sdb1's mount point ? [10:18] Right. [10:18] Alright [10:18] type in a terminal : [10:18] ah! I left thunar out of my command... [10:18] lol [10:18] sudo cp /usr/share/applications/thunar.desktop ~/.local/share/mydevsd1thunar.desktop [10:18] That did it. [10:18] and then open mydevsdb1.desktop with a text editor [10:19] (or not, if it's already done :P) [10:19] * SiDi goes back to his tasty food. [10:19] * JackVermicelli points at his brain and shakes his head [10:19] If it can make you feel better about what your brain forgets, I've got a friend who forgot this morning's exam today. [10:19] eesh [10:20] I managed not to laugh when phoning him and asking him why he didn't come :d [10:20] hah [10:20] Anything particularly gruesome in the way or repercussions? [10:20] of* [10:21] he'll go to the second session cause he'll have 0/20 :/ [10:22] the problem is that, with his current marks, he couldn't really afford that. If he doesnt have over 10 at all his other exams he's likely to fail his degree [10:22] :-/ [10:23] Thanks again Slonkie, and I appreciate the brain jog, SiDi. [10:24] no problem [10:24] :P [10:25] I'm trying ti add an application to be default for an filetype, but when i do, i doesn't open the file when i press the file, it just opens the applications - should i add something special to the launcher to make it open the file in the application? :P [10:25] yeh [10:25] if i'm right it's %f [10:25] or %F [10:26] doesn't work, i guess it's just the application which is rubbish [10:27] I've got mp3s on that second drive, and I can play them with vlc, but by default they're associated with Listen. Listen will launch directly, but not by clicking an mp3. Can I make fix that? [10:28] it'll add the name of the file to the command [10:28] but the app has to support opening files via arguments [10:28] for instance if you do this with my bt client, it'd be "reztorrent --add %f" [10:28] s/make// [10:28] * SiDi was disconnected [10:28] right click the mp3 -> open with -> listen [10:28] JackVermicelli afaik that's a know problem which is being fixed [10:28] Alright. Thanks. [10:29] That doesn't work either, SiDi. [10:29] It works with Exaile [10:29] I'll try something else. [10:29] yea it works with anything else than Listen [10:30] probably listen can't take files in argument ;) [10:30] strange im runngin 8.10 and some updates are held back [10:30] linux generic, headers, restricted modules generic [10:30] and a lot of open office updates [10:30] Is Exaile something you'd recommend? [10:30] JackVermicelli: not if you're low on RAM, it's hungry [10:30] but apart from that it's a lovely player [10:30] uhkay [10:31] its still on version 0.2.14, under development [10:31] I'm a fan of foobar2000, but I haven't found anything quite in that vein yet. [10:31] the 0.3 should land in october *hopefully* [10:31] I used to use Winamp [10:31] from ~2.9 to the 5.xx [10:31] Banshee ftw [10:31] till i quit windows actually :p [10:31] Slonkie: Banshee = Mono, right ? [10:31] Never used winamp. I get funny looks for saying that. [10:32] Mono? [10:33] Monaural? [10:34] Mono, c#, .net, microsoft [10:35] no idea :O [10:35] yeh, Banshee = gnome + mono libs [10:35] * SiDi prefers Exaile ! :O [10:35] I just use it basicly because it's capable of syncronising with my iPod :( [10:36] I would prefer Amarok, but it just wont work for me :( [10:36] * SiDi would never buy an iPod :P [10:36] oh, why ? [10:36] well kinda hard to explain.. but i'm not able to see the anthing else than volume control and play/pause buttons [10:36] exaile got an ipod plugin btw :p [10:36] Slonkie: try to install Qt then :d [10:37] i tried #amarok and tried 3 different methods they told me [10:37] I did try [10:37] http://xkcd.com/ [10:38] haha [10:42] Is xubuntu pretty trim of gnome/kde dependencies, OOB? Or, should I let that concern influence what I install at all? [10:45] There wont be any KDE deps [10:45] there are a few "gnome" apps, but there isnt any libgnome dep, afaik [10:46] thanks again. [10:54] Leaning toward quodlibet or lxmusic, from what I'm seeing. [11:02] Not exactly like there's a lack of choice :D [11:03] LX was my first choice after briefly doing some research, but it's not in the repos. [11:03] I'll look into tomorrow. Up way too late. [11:04] Later. [11:04] bye [11:22] Hi. When I switched on my computer yesterday my resolution was fine. I went to the Display Settings window to check and it was 1024*768 as it was meant to be. Now today when I switch it on everything's gone all funny so I checked out my resolution and it's at 960*540 and there is no option to set it back to 1024*768! How do I get it back?? [11:29] Did you have system updates by the meanwhile ? [11:30] Yes [11:30] Which ? [11:30] Any kernel / driver updates ? [11:33] I'm not sure. There were a lot of updates so I just installed them all at once (I only recently installed Xubuntu onto this computer) [11:34] I expect there were some kernel or driver updates. [11:38] Is there any way I can manually set the resolution, i.e. using terminal? [11:47] FelineMonstrosit: was it an update or upgrade ? [11:47] you can modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that [11:48] An update. I'm going to upgrade to 9.04 today. [11:49] I've opened xorg.conf but I see no values I can edit [11:50] there is this: [11:50] Section "Device" [11:50] Identifier "Configured Video Device" [11:50] EndSection [11:50] Section "Monitor" [11:50] Identifier "Configured Monitor" [11:50] EndSection [11:50] Section "Screen" [11:50] Identifier "Default Screen" [11:50] Monitor "Configured Monitor" [11:50] Device "Configured Video Device" [11:50] EndSection [11:51] alright, upgrade to 9.04 first [11:51] it'll likely change your kernel/drivers/xorg.conf anyways [11:52] OK then === Heimdall09 is now known as Heimdall === Heimdall is now known as Heimdall09 [12:25] /join #ubuntu [13:52] !info dbus-1 [13:52] Package dbus-1 does not exist in jaunty [13:53] !info libdbus-1-3 [13:53] libdbus-1-3 (source: dbus): simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.12-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 121 kB, installed size 312 kB [13:54] Whoops, don't accidentally close your vmware workstation window whilst deleting a snapshot [13:55] Fortunately, I have a backup of the vm === joeDeuce is now known as []D[][]V[][]D === []D[][]V[][]D is now known as joeDeuce [15:26] what is the commando in terminal to get system info? [15:27] cheesa, which info? [15:28] [15:28] Graphics Card [15:30] cheesa, see the first hit at http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&btnI=Im+Feeling+Lucky&q=find+out+graphics+card+linux [15:39] ok [15:39] thanks [15:39] i had via card [15:41] how will i get in via drivers [15:41] !xorg [15:41] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [15:42] Perhaps Applications->System->Hardware Drivers? [15:42] vinnl, there shouldnt be via closed source drives [15:42] *drivers [15:42] Ah OK [16:21] grr can not get the drivers to works [16:26] will not aubuto have auto drivers for unichrome pro [16:27] xserver-xorg-video-openchrome << thats the unichrome driver, should be installed by default [16:28] oki [16:28] i can onley get 800^600 screen [16:28] dunno how to do now? [16:28] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome [16:29] oki [16:29] brb, rebooting [16:31] the packet manager say its installed [16:32] but i can onley get 800^600 screen [16:37] ablomen do you know why? [16:38] oh [16:43] any one knows other drivers then openchrome for via? === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [17:51] hi [17:52] anyone here? :) [17:52] ive got some problem with xubuntu 9.04 [17:52] namely, how can i set the video driver to vesa [17:52] i get black screen after the loader finishes [17:53] What is your display adaptor? [17:53] s3 savage4 [17:53] its a laptop [17:53] amilo d [17:53] brb, phone [17:53] ok [17:53] i used the cd to install coz i have only 128 mb on it [17:53] ram , i mean [17:54] tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , but it only configures the keyboard layout and stuff like that, couldnt change the video driver [17:55] also tried from the recovery menu the repair brokken packages and try to auto repair graphic problems [17:55] didnt work [17:56] !lowmem [17:56] For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [17:56] ye, i have it installed [17:56] its ok, without any error message [17:56] the only problem seems to be with the video driver [17:56] black screen after loading [17:56] when i put it to a crt, it works perfectly [17:57] then what is the black screen on? [17:57] !enter [17:57] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [17:57] nothing, complete black screne after the loading bur completes [17:57] bar not bur [17:57] its on the laptop screen's [17:58] so i guess that the problem is with the vga driver for the laptop, or something wrong with the laptop screen (which i doubt coz i saw the install all the time) [17:58] from what i understood from forums and wikis it says i'd have to change the video driver to vesa [17:58] ok sry ubottu, reflex [18:01] so, anyone knows the answer for how to change it? :) [18:02] !x | Voodo [18:02] Voodo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [18:03] have you seed that page? [18:03] no i havent [18:03] thats why i came here [18:04] and still black screen [18:07] Voodo: don't change it to VESA if you can avoid that. [18:07] I would install Xubuntu 8.10, it may work better. [18:07] 9.04 seems to have introduced some problems. [18:07] i am kinda new to linux, and it was the only solution i saw [18:07] (at least on my box) [18:07] thanks, i'll try [18:12] the fact that it works on your crt should be telling you that the video card is supported... The problem is that you are trying to use the wrong resolution for the display [18:13] if the resolution is higher than the screen can provide, than shouldnt it be just a part of the screen showing, not completely black? [18:17] No. [18:18] zoredache: sadly Jaunty does that by default on some monitors. [18:18] zoredache: though that may vary with display driver. [18:19] Voodo: 8.10 may fix that for you. [18:21] im downloading it right now, altho i'll try to set the resolution first [18:21] Voodo: how can you do that if the screen's black? [18:22] got it on a lcd now [18:22] + i can go into root [18:23] right now im downloading the updates for xubuntu by itself, and see what it does to it [18:24] Ah, well if it can remember your choice of display mode, then you're onto a winner. [18:24] What's the visible diagonal of your CRT? [18:24] (of the picture) [18:25] well its a full screen, max resolution on the crt [18:26] and its a low-res on the lcd right now [18:26] Voodo: that's not what I asked. [18:26] Do you have a tape measure to hand? [18:27] im affraid i dont understand what ur asking [18:27] you mean a ruler? [18:32] A ruler would work too, at a push. [18:33] just measure the hight of the picture. [18:33] the laptop's screen is 14" if thats what u ask [18:33] Ah okay, hang on then. [18:33] (I forgot this was a laptop) [18:33] about 20 cm [18:33] :) [18:34] Voodo: do you have the laptop's manual? [18:34] sadly no [18:34] but if u wanna know the max resolution it can handle its 1024x768 [18:35] That was my guess. [18:35] Set it to 1024x768 at 60 Hz and reboot [18:35] if it works, great. [18:35] If not, fall back to 8.10 [18:35] its a very old one, at least 7 years old [18:35] I suppose that is old for a laptop [18:36] well, 1ghz celeron+128mb ram :) [18:36] Can you upgrade the RAM? [18:37] I wouldn't try Xubuntu on a machine with less than 512 Mbytes [18:38] problem is, even if i could get SD, i dont know where is it exactly located inside [18:38] otherwise i would [18:38] ball, it works fine even on 256 [18:38] 128 is kinda slow [18:41] charlie-tca: wouldn't leave much room for apps though. [18:41] nah, only thing i wanna use this laptop for is online poekr [18:41] poker* [18:41] Ah, that might work then :-) [18:41] got tired when win xp crashed on media player and poker [18:55] HI everyone. I am having trouble with thunar in Jaunty. On a folder with only many numeric names, the order seems to be kind of random when I sort by name [18:55] =when I swicth to another sorting method and then go back to name, everything is OK. but then when I navigate out of the folder and then back in the order is scrambled again [18:56] anyone seeing something similar [18:56] ? [18:56] I hadn't noticed. [18:56] ...but I don't use thunar intensively [18:57] if it is numeric, it should be sorting either high to low or low to high? [18:57] well, by name it sorts low to high [18:57] but htne when I come back to the folder it does not seem to be sorted at all [18:57] although the order is not random (it is the same each time I come back) [18:58] Is the arrow on name? [18:58] or is it on some other column? [18:58] I am using compact view [18:58] so no arrow [18:59] jiho: can you switch it and look and see if the same behavior happens in the detailed view [18:59] click view, select detailed, see where it is. Maybe that is affecting the order? [19:00] yes the issue is the same even in detailed view [19:00] with the arrow on name and sorted correctly [19:03] it is very sctrange. I was trying to put up a script so that you could test that [19:03] but it seem to work OK on my dummy test folder [19:03] it is just a problem with the real one [19:05] let me do some more testing and I will get back to you. Thanks for the answers so far anyway [19:06] you mentioned the names where mostly numeric.. are you seeing something like 10.a 100.a 1.a 2.a 21.a 22.a 23.a 3.a perhaps? [19:07] sorting files that have numerical names is a bit tricky if you expect to sort by the numerical value [19:10] zoredache: no they are only numeric actually: 1,2,3,4 etc. [19:10] and the ordering works when I as for it [19:10] it's just that it does not stick [19:11] so I think I have "pinpointed" the problem [19:11] it happens (at least) when the directories names are all numeric and go over 100 [19:12] try this : [19:12] #!/bin/bash [19:12] dir="foo" [19:12] for (( i = 1; i < 140; i++ )); do mkdir -p $dir/$i; done [19:12] thunar $dir [19:12] exit 0 [19:12] now sort by name (it should be the case already) [19:12] navigate out (with the path bar on the top for example) and back it [19:13] the dirs from 1 to 9 are OK and then the order is garbled [19:13] back it -> back in [19:14] is it a problem on my system or is someone else seeing it? [19:15] wow, I am seeing it, given a folder created by that script... that is bizaree [19:16] ahh glad I am not the only one ;) [19:16] so that's abug in thunar I guess [19:16] it seems to be repeatable, you probably need to submit a bit [19:16] bug* [19:18] I am looking for bug reports now [19:19] OK I don't find anything with "thunar order" or "thunar sort" [19:19] so I'll report it [19:19] hey :) an alternative to synaptic package manager for xubuntu. is there a decent one ? [19:19] and in the mean time use nautilus [19:19] grrr [19:19] thanks for your help in testing it [19:20] artistxe: apt-get + apt-cache or aptitude [19:20] artistxe: you have the "add and remove software" thingy, which is supposed to be more user firendly [19:21] well. apt-get is terminal. I know that alternative. the problem is when I use synaptic to search for anything it shows no results. I have all of the repos enabled . [19:21] this I know because of apt-get [19:22] search function works perfectly on my other laptop , but not here ( same version 8.10) [19:22] hey, got a small noob doubt [19:22] i need to format and install win xp [19:22] ahahhaa, ball, i succeded, set the resolution to fix 1024x768, 60 hz, and now even the crt wont show it :D [19:23] i found this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , but is there another way? [19:25] okay. how to search in aptitude then ??? [19:26] weird. double clicking in terminal.... [19:27] zoredache: what's you ubuntu version for the bug report please? [19:28] anyone??? [19:31] 9.04 [19:31] zoredache: ok, if it is different from mine (jaunty). you can add it to this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/376156 [19:31] thanks again [19:35] okay. different question. how to rebuild the search index in synaptic ? [19:36] titan_ark: put in your windows xp disk and boot it up? When you get to the disk partitioner portion of the install delete everything [19:36] above the search box it says "rebuilding search index" but does not seem to be doing anything [19:36] "sudo [19:36] update-apt-xapian-index" [19:37] well, all on one line, in a terminal [19:37] Voodo: any luck? [19:37] zoredache: i already have xo installed on a separate partition. I want to format it and then re-install it [19:37] charlie-tca, thanks. but got it working somehow ... [19:38] Okay. [19:38] charlie-tca, xapian ??? [19:38] That rebuilds the index in synaptic [19:38] ball [19:38] * artistxe save command anyway for possible future use . thanks again [19:38] no problem [19:38] i've set it to 1024x768, and now even the crt wont work [19:38] tried mode3 with svgalib [19:38] black screen also [19:39] put in the disk and reinstall then. When the system is done installing you'll need to reinatall the grub bootloader. [19:39] so im bringing the heavy magnets and installing xubuntu 8.04: ) [19:39] !grub > titan_ark [19:39] titan_ark, please see my private message [19:39] svgalib should be irrelevant [19:39] zoredache: yup i know that :) [19:40] oh oki shall have a look at that link :) thanks a ton [19:40] Voodo: be aware that it may simply not boot because you have so little RAM [19:40] it did boot on the crt, so ram shouldnt be the source of the problem [19:41] Why 8.04 instead of 8.10 ? [19:41] coz i couldnt find 8.10 on xubuntu.com [19:41] and right now i got another problem, i only got dvds, dont have any cd s :D [19:41] image wont burn to dvd [19:42] the gods are against me :D [19:42] zoredache: well, i did see that link before. had a doubt. I do not have a 9.04 installer as i did an upgrade from 8.10. will i need the jaunty installer now? [19:43] titan_ark: your 8.10 cd should be fine to fix grub [19:43] ok thats cool :) [19:44]