| Riddell | nobody brave enough to test the alpha then? | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| * Vorian will | 00:05 | |
| Riddell | Vorian: able to do that now? | 00:06 |
| Vorian | er, in 30 minutes | 00:06 |
| Vorian | + has to download | 00:06 |
| Vorian | or upgrade | 00:06 |
| Vorian | any preference? | 00:07 |
| Riddell | download | 00:08 |
| Vorian | alrighty | 00:08 |
| JontheEchidna | kdeutils beta almost done compiling | 00:08 |
| * Vorian downloads | 00:09 | |
| claydoh | Riddell: I am usually either stupid or brave | 00:10 |
| claydoh | question from the forums: kde4.3 beta for 9.04? | 00:10 |
| claydoh | yay/nay? | 00:10 |
| Vorian | claydoh: it will be in a ppa | 00:10 |
| claydoh | thought so, just wasn't sure if a beta would be released for jaunty | 00:11 |
| Riddell | claydoh: no timetable though, we're a bit behind because of getting karmic set up | 00:13 |
| Riddell | and for my part I'm away from this weekend | 00:14 |
| claydoh | Riddell: thanks, starting to get restless over there :) | 00:14 |
| claydoh | the usual 'early adopters' ;( | 00:14 |
| claydoh | oops ;)\ | 00:14 |
| claydoh | darn full-sized keyboard! | 00:15 |
| quassel208 | are you guys going pack kde4.3 beta ? | 00:32 |
| Riddell | quassel208: yes | 00:43 |
| quassel208 | when? | 00:43 |
| Riddell | now | 00:45 |
| quassel208 | oh really? Can I test? Then I dont need to compile | 00:45 |
| nixternal | its more fun to compile though | 00:46 |
| quassel208 | yeah I did it before :) | 00:47 |
| quassel208 | but erased the stable with it | 00:47 |
| Riddell | there's bits in the experimental PPA in ~kubuntu-ppa but not much of it for now | 00:47 |
| quassel208 | santiago is holy... | 00:48 |
| quassel208 | whats the ppa ? | 00:53 |
| quassel208 | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu ? | 00:53 |
| Riddell | no ~kubuntu-ppa on launchpad | 00:54 |
| quassel208 | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main | 00:55 |
| quassel208 | this one | 00:55 |
| quassel208 | I ony find kde 4.2.3 in it | 01:01 |
| quassel208 | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/experimental/ubuntu karmic main | 01:07 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| Riddell | updatedb can seriously harm your compile time | 01:38 |
| xee | Hi, I'm working on a Kubuntu derivative and I'd like to apply certain settings to new users(other than Kubuntu defaults), according to some forums this was possible in kde3 using /etc/kde-defaults but I can't find how to do the same in Kubuntu/KDE4 | 01:45 |
| xee | I've tried /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/ but it doesn't work as expected, I change some settings then create a new user and it's the same | 01:46 |
| Riddell | xee: editing the files in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/ should work | 01:51 |
| Riddell | or /etc/kde4 for that matter | 01:51 |
| xee | I tried the former and it seemed like it didn't work so I'll try the latter, thanks | 01:52 |
| Riddell | xee: what's the derivative? | 01:53 |
| xee | it's just a rebranded, customized version for a company | 01:54 |
| Nightrose | JontheEchidna: any luck with the amarok package? | 17:48 |
| JontheEchidna | nope :( | 17:48 |
| Nightrose | damn | 17:48 |
| Nightrose | having yet another beta without useful kubuntu packages is bad | 17:49 |
| Nightrose | we did get close to no testing for beta 1 :( | 17:49 |
| Mamarok | Nightrose: the jukebox package did build fine and it's basically a 2.1 beta too, with some git merges from markey | 17:50 |
| Mamarok | JontheEchidna: if you need the additional packages, they are in the gibson-DW ppa | 17:50 |
| Mamarok | just don't use the amarok package itself :) | 17:50 |
| Daskreech | Whooo | 17:52 |
| === cmvo_ is now known as cmvo | ||
| * Riddell uploads qzion qedje eet and kdepimlibs | 18:01 | |
| Riddell | oh and kdelibs-experimental | 18:02 |
| nixternal | are people actually using the qedje widgets and what not? | 18:08 |
| * astromme has no idea | 18:08 | |
| Tm_T | nixternal: I would atleast try | 18:08 |
| * astromme uses python widgets for sure | 18:08 | |
| daskreech | They have qedje widgets? | 18:09 |
| nixternal | yes | 18:09 |
| nixternal | evolution has some cool widgets | 18:09 |
| nixternal | I have tried adding google gadget widgets, but it hasn't worked out well for me and I can't figure it out | 18:09 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, google-gadgets failed main inclusion, so we don't support it | 18:09 |
| JontheEchidna | if someone could take the plugin and put it in its own source package we could support it in universe, theoretically | 18:10 |
| nixternal | no, kde trunk | 18:10 |
| daskreech | How long will that stand for? | 18:10 |
| nixternal | I build the google gadgets anyways because the version we have in the repos is crippled | 18:10 |
| Riddell | oh and akonadi uploaded | 18:11 |
| nixternal | do people actually use akonadi? :p | 18:11 |
| nixternal | muhehehe | 18:11 |
| astromme | I use google gadgets widgets on my archlinux box | 18:11 |
| Mamarok | nixternal: I do... | 18:11 |
| astromme | They're great, except of course none of theme fit theme wise | 18:11 |
| Riddell | I did try to separate out google gadgets plasma support but failed | 18:11 |
| nixternal | hehe, I would hope everyone is using akonadi | 18:11 |
| * astromme also uses Akonadi | 18:11 | |
| astromme | Akonadi and KDEPim are now linked pretty tightly | 18:11 |
| astromme | even more so for the 4.3 cycle | 18:12 |
| nixternal | that is expected | 18:12 |
| nixternal | thankfully they seperated akonadi from pimlibs though | 18:12 |
| Riddell | dunno if qedje will be relevant any more once qt declarative is out | 18:12 |
| nixternal | well I think it will because we are sharing stuff with the evolution community | 18:13 |
| nixternal | which is whicked cool | 18:13 |
| nixternal | man, I haven't used evolution in such a long time...I need to give it a look again | 18:13 |
| astromme | wait, what is evolution doing? | 18:14 |
| nixternal | err, enlightenment | 18:14 |
| nixternal | jeesh | 18:14 |
| astromme | oh | 18:14 |
| astromme | ok | 18:14 |
| nixternal | I just read a post about "backing up evolution" | 18:15 |
| astromme | yeah, I used e17 a very very long time ago | 18:15 |
| nixternal | I am a moron | 18:15 |
| astromme | I did also use evolution a long time ago. Loved the "unified" concept and HATED the implementation | 18:15 |
| astromme | It was like a bad copy of outlook. I then tried Kontact and have been using it since, lol.... | 18:15 |
| nixternal | evolution right now is great if you are working in a MS Exchange environment | 18:16 |
| astromme | I assume so, I've heard a lot regarding that | 18:16 |
| nixternal | you can say the same thing about Kontact and Outlook as well | 18:16 |
| astromme | but I'm not, and never plan to be | 18:16 |
| nixternal | all GUI based email clients suck | 18:16 |
| nixternal | that's why I use Mutt | 18:16 |
| astromme | oh boy, dangerous territory! | 18:16 |
| * astromme <3s his Kontact, don't take it away! | 18:16 | |
| * astromme just finally got kontact + gmail + google contacts + google calendar to play nicely and is happy | 18:17 | |
| nixternal | Riddell: how are you liking Alpine? I wasn't ever a huge Pine fan back in the day, but have thought about giving Alpine a test run | 18:17 |
| daskreech | Anyone uses nepomuk ? | 18:18 |
| Riddell | nixternal: actually I went back to mutt, turns out alpine can't do stuff I need it to do | 18:18 |
| nixternal | right, that is what I have heard | 18:18 |
| Tm_T | daskreech: used when I had ability to compile KDE myself | 18:18 |
| nixternal | do you use mutt-patched, or do you still run Mutt old school, without the folders list? | 18:18 |
| daskreech | How long ago was that? | 18:18 |
| Tm_T | daskreech: 2 months or more | 18:19 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I've no idea, whatever is installed on the ancient debian machine I use for a server | 18:19 |
| nixternal | ahhh, ya probably not mutt-patched | 18:19 |
| daskreech | Tm_T: So you didn't try the virtuoso backend ? | 18:19 |
| nixternal | mutt-patched is pretty cool, as I can toggle a sidebar/folder list by hitting 'b' | 18:19 |
| Tm_T | daskreech: no, sowwy | 18:19 |
| nixternal | I like that feature instead of having to go into my folder list all of the time | 18:19 |
| nixternal | a bit more efficient | 18:19 |
| daskreech | nixternal: tried nepomuk? | 18:20 |
| nixternal | daskreech: ya, when it doesn't crash on my trunk build it rocks | 18:21 |
| astromme | daskreech: I have tried it. It's better than the java one, slightly | 18:21 |
| nixternal | I don't build with sesame or virtuoso | 18:21 |
| Tm_T | astromme: and RAM usage is on what level? | 18:21 |
| nixternal | redland is good enough | 18:21 |
| daskreech | nixternal: What backend ? | 18:21 |
| astromme | Tm_T: well, I'm a bit of an odd test as I have 100GB of stuff that is indexed | 18:21 |
| daskreech | Ah Ok | 18:21 |
| * astromme is _not_ a fan of redland | 18:21 | |
| daskreech | astromme: it sticks for you? | 18:21 |
| nixternal | everything uses redland | 18:22 |
| nixternal | sesame is actually really nice, but I don't think it would be good in a desktop environment | 18:22 |
| astromme | daskreech: The nepomuk process itself uses a lot of ram. The virtuoso server doesn't seem to be using much | 18:22 |
| nixternal | I might be wrong though | 18:22 |
| astromme | sesame worked well for me, it was just hard to setup as it wasn't packaged | 18:22 |
| nixternal | I have actually contributed to sesame with my last job, as I used it for a backend for an ftp storage client for our grid | 18:22 |
| Riddell | sesame is packaged in jaunty | 18:22 |
| astromme | redland has NEVER worked for me with strigi. Complete fail in my book, way too slow | 18:22 |
| nixternal | which was all java anyways | 18:22 |
| daskreech | strigi has flat out never worked for me | 18:23 |
| Tm_T | astromme: still, some comparison I would like to have | 18:23 |
| Tm_T | astromme: as I am RAM limited | 18:23 |
| astromme | daskreech: strigi is working generally, it just doesn't have as many (i think they're called stream readers?) as I would like | 18:23 |
| daskreech | My friend is compiling from trunk and has been trying virtuoso since Monday. Anytime he sets the config to virtuoso as soon as nepomuk starts it switches it back to sesame | 18:24 |
| astromme | Tm_T: Well, with that 100GB of indexed files I was seeing high nepomuk usage, in the hundreds of megabytes | 18:24 |
| astromme | daskreech: it will auto select virtuoso if it is installed correctly | 18:24 |
| Tm_T | astromme: hmmm, still way smaller than sesame, isn't it? | 18:24 |
| daskreech | astromme: Ah so we need to figure out what counts as installed correctly :) | 18:24 |
| astromme | daskreech: there is a tool... I forget... that tells you what nepomuk thinks is installed backendwise | 18:25 |
| astromme | Tm_T: yes, I think smaller. Definitely faster | 18:25 |
| astromme | oh woah, that is so cool | 18:30 |
| astromme | I started nepomuk on this jaunty machine and it asked to install sesame :) | 18:31 |
| * astromme is a big fan | 18:31 | |
| Mamarok | astromme: wait, my Strigi is indexing since days... | 18:31 |
| daskreech | Mamarok: How much data? | 18:31 |
| Mamarok | if you have a lot of data you will need patience | 18:31 |
| Mamarok | daskreech: like 580 Gb | 18:32 |
| astromme | Mamarok: have you installed the sesame2 backend? | 18:32 |
| astromme | Mamarok: ah, yes. That will take a while | 18:32 |
| astromme | And you will end up with a very large db | 18:32 |
| astromme | I have 1/5th of that | 18:32 |
| Mamarok | daskreech: I talked to Trueg about it today, he can't do anything about it and suspects Strigi to hang sometimes on certain files, it should be faster | 18:32 |
| astromme | daskreech: run "sopranocmd |grep backend -C 1 | 18:33 |
| astromme | If you see virtuoso the server is installed correctly (with nepomuk support) | 18:33 |
| Mamarok | astromme: yes, of course I have sesame2 | 18:34 |
| astromme | Mamarok: Just checking :). I've seen users who don't have it and are complaining | 18:34 |
| Mamarok | astromme: It never actually started without sesame anyway, s I read some Nepomuk blogs to get started | 18:35 |
| astromme | oh, that's interested | 18:35 |
| astromme | s/interested/interesting | 18:35 |
| * astromme will brb, he needs to relog for nepomuk | 18:35 | |
| astromme | or I could just ... hmm | 18:36 |
| daskreech | Isn't strigi spawning multiple threads for that so one file hanging shouldn't really screw it up that much? | 18:37 |
| astromme | daskreech: I think the one hanging goes to 100% cpu | 18:38 |
| astromme | at least I've had that experience | 18:38 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| daskreech | Ugh can you see what file it's hanging on ? | 18:39 |
| Mamarok | daskreech: well, I can see on which folder he is, but it's progressing, just very slow | 18:40 |
| * ScottK has never once had sufficient patience to let Strigi finish indexing. | 18:41 | |
| daskreech | Riddell: Does it make sense to follow you on identi.ca ? | 18:42 |
| * astromme is a fan of Quassel. No disconnection ftw | 18:42 | |
| daskreech | Konversation should have some quassel server support :) | 18:42 |
| astromme | Mamarok: did you do something special to make strigi start? I'm having no luck | 18:42 |
| astromme | daskreech: no kidding | 18:42 |
| Mamarok | astromme: there is a missing java symlink you will have to set, found it in the lauchpad bugs about Strigi | 18:43 |
| astromme | Mamarok: that's silly, so small! | 18:43 |
| daskreech | small things cause the most emotional pain | 18:44 |
| Mamarok | astromme: I know | 18:44 |
| Mamarok | it buggerd my for quite a while | 18:44 |
| Riddell | daskreech: no I've never used it | 18:44 |
| astromme | This, right? ln -s /usr/lib/kde4/lib/strigi/strigiindex_sopranobackend.so /usr/lib/strigi/strigiindex_sopranobackend.so | 18:45 |
| ScottK | So I guess it makes sense if you don't want much distraction. | 18:45 |
| Mamarok | astromme: cause, it's one if the pilars of KDE, so it not working was very disturbing | 18:45 |
| * astromme gets a "file exists" | 18:45 | |
| astromme | Mamarok: exactly. Nepomuk + Strigi needs to start working out of the box | 18:45 |
| Mamarok | astromme: well, no the one I had to set was for the libjvm.so | 18:45 |
| astromme | That's the only way that it will solidify and actually start becoming indispensible | 18:45 |
| daskreech | Riddell: You do have an account though | 18:46 |
| daskreech | Will Aplha 2 be KDE 4.3 based ? | 18:47 |
| Riddell | daskreech: only under duress | 18:48 |
| astromme | meh, I"m getting... found no soprano plugin at "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so" | 18:49 |
| daskreech | Riddell: ha ha wonderful :) We should probably have a kubuntu account there though | 18:50 |
| daskreech | wait | 18:50 |
| daskreech | there is | 18:50 |
| JontheEchidna | harmph, kdeutils should be good now, uploading to the ppa | 18:50 |
| daskreech | >_> | 18:50 |
| daskreech | and nixternal isn't following it | 18:51 |
| daskreech | Wow | 18:51 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: kdeutils? I just uploaded that to the archive | 18:51 |
| JontheEchidna | sdk, my mistake | 18:52 |
| nixternal | daskreech: following what? | 18:52 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: ^ | 18:52 |
| astromme | aha aha aha! "Converting Nepomuk index to a new backend" | 18:52 |
| astromme | This is a good sign I think | 18:52 |
| * astromme still would love 4.3b1 for Jaunty | 18:52 | |
| daskreech | The kubuntu identi.ca account | 18:52 |
| astromme | Muahahaha! and I have the nepomuk icon | 18:52 |
| Riddell | astromme: it'll come, but a few days yet | 18:52 |
| astromme | Riddell: I'll be super busy until Monday, so I probably won't even notice after today :) | 18:53 |
| astromme | Engin project, final paper, wedding, flying home, getting unpacked. | 18:53 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, and I just uploaded kdeutils to experimental when I meant to upload sdk v.v | 18:53 |
| JontheEchidna | oh well, it'll only clog the builders up a bit | 18:54 |
| astromme | Mamarok: Thank you for your help. I agree, this needs to just work. That'll certainly be something I poke around for in the Karmic alphas/betas | 18:54 |
| ScottK | If it's just missing a symlink, we ought to be able to fix Jaunty in an SRU | 18:55 |
| Mamarok | good idea, people expect it to work when they read the release notes for the KDE versions | 18:55 |
| astromme | ScottK: it looks like the java defaults selector should be setting the symlink, as it varies from jvm to jvm | 18:55 |
| ScottK | astromme: I see. Perhaps you could take it up with someone on the Ubuntu Java team. | 18:56 |
| * ScottK knows zip about Java | 18:56 | |
| astromme | ScottK: where would I do that? | 18:56 |
| ScottK | astromme: #ubuntu-java | 18:56 |
| astromme | ScottK: this is the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/soprano-backend-sesame/+bug/334186 | 18:56 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 334186 in soprano-backend-sesame "soprano-backend-sesame requires missing /usr/lib/libjvm.so" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:56 |
| nixternal | oh cool, I had no idea that troubalex was the community web mgr for qt software...groovy | 18:56 |
| astromme | The last comment mentions that he did something relating to java-common | 18:56 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I've never worked out what a community web manager is :) | 18:56 |
| nixternal | hehe | 18:58 |
| daskreech | Someone who manages the community but never actually meets them :) | 18:58 |
| Riddell | I've met troubalex, although I didn't notice her managing me | 18:58 |
| nixternal | do you need to be managed? | 18:59 |
| daskreech | You | 18:59 |
| daskreech | have | 18:59 |
| nixternal | no, you just need an agent you rockstar! | 18:59 |
| daskreech | no | 18:59 |
| daskreech | idea | 18:59 |
| astromme | ScottK: I'm poking around a bit. Who knows.... | 19:00 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| * ScottK is pretty convinced Riddell is unmanageable. | 19:16 | |
| daskreech | hi smarter_ :) | 19:20 |
| Riddell | groovy, kdebase-workspace done and uploaded | 19:28 |
| Riddell | will dep wait on qedje though | 19:28 |
| Mamarok | is there a way to remove the password for kpackagekit once it has been stored? | 19:37 |
| Mamarok | as kpackagkit doesn't use kdewallet | 19:37 |
| seele | nixternal: no i just said "next slide" hehe | 19:48 |
| nixternal | haha | 19:48 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| ghostcube | everybody was kung fu fighting dabba dibbi | 20:09 |
| ghostcube | helo humans and wannabees | 20:09 |
| === daskreech is now known as nooneelse | ||
| ghostcube | :D | 20:09 |
| === nooneelse is now known as dasKreech | ||
| dasKreech | Who we gonna call? | 20:10 |
| neversfelde | öhm | 20:11 |
| ghostcube | hmmm elvis ? | 20:11 |
| neversfelde | btw is eagles0815 banned again? | 20:11 |
| dasKreech | most likely | 20:12 |
| astromme | ScottK: Mamarok: I'm working with the good folks in #ubuntu-java . There is a good chance that we can come up with a solution for jaunty | 20:13 |
| ScottK | Haven't seen him around lately now that you mention it. | 20:13 |
| astromme | Do you know if virtuoso will be the default/packaged for Karmic? | 20:13 |
| ScottK | astromme: Excellent. | 20:13 |
| astromme | Apparently linking to /usr/lib/libjvm.so is a bad bad idea because you don't know about abi. However, in this case there isn't a good solution other than linking | 20:14 |
| astromme | ScottK: have you guys packaged virtuoso for karmic? is that the current plan for default? | 20:18 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 20:18 |
| * ScottK looks over at Riddell | 20:18 | |
| JontheEchidna | http://bugs.debian.org/508048 | 20:19 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 331757 | 20:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 331757 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] virtuoso-opensource" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/331757 | 20:19 |
| JontheEchidna | it looks to be a huge job | 20:20 |
| astromme | JontheEchidna: oh noes :( even just the db component? | 20:20 |
| ScottK | I'd hate to rely on it since it's just the freeware version of a proprietary product. | 20:20 |
| * astromme mentions that it is oss | 20:21 | |
| dasKreech | but is it F ? | 20:21 |
| astromme | you mean L? :P | 20:21 |
| ScottK | It is, but it's the non-commercial version of some closed thing. | 20:21 |
| dasKreech | We can see the source can it be forked if needed ? | 20:21 |
| ScottK | It may be like OOo and Star Office (OK) or something else. | 20:22 |
| ScottK | Personally I'd be a lot more comfortable if more of these DB driven things were using postgresql. | 20:23 |
| * ScottK waves to Sput | 20:23 | |
| astromme | Looks like gpl2 | 20:24 |
| astromme | http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VOSLicense | 20:24 |
| astromme | ScottK: the problem iirc is that they aren't a RDF something or other | 20:24 |
| ScottK | Right, well Virtuoso also came in the context of Akonadi too | 20:25 |
| astromme | ScottK: aha, sparql, that's the magic word | 20:26 |
| astromme | Also, some packager notes are at the bottom of: http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/are-we-there-yet-the-long-road-to-a-stable-soprano-virtuoso-backend/ | 20:27 |
| astromme | The one great thing about nepomuk.... it supports multiple backends and seamlessly migrates data if a new one becomes available that is deemed a higher priority (or the users sets it as the first priority) | 20:27 |
| nixternal | note to other devs: if you are a dev for a distro, do not comment on another distro dev blog calling it subpar | 20:35 |
| nixternal | I can't believe someone commented on my blog complaining that it is on planet kde and it is a subpar distro, when the person is a chakra developer, a project for arch that uses patches from so-called "subpar distros" | 20:36 |
| nixternal | ie. the kubuntu karmic release post | 20:36 |
| * Sput waves back to ScottK | 20:37 | |
| ScottK | nixternal: Batteries Released. | 20:38 |
| nixternal | heh | 20:38 |
| * astromme sighs | 20:38 | |
| dasKreech | nixternal: Ah thought it was for your other post. In any case mud slinging due to inflated aggravated pride quotes are really not needed | 20:38 |
| === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger_work | ||
| === siekaczx is now known as siekacz | ||
| siekacz | hello | 22:13 |
| siekacz | are there any plans to make KDE 4.3 b1 packages for 9.04? | 22:14 |
| dasKreech | Yes | 22:14 |
| rgreening | we are working on them now. its slow progress... but moving | 22:15 |
| JontheEchidna | rgreening: we've started for 9.04? | 22:15 |
| rgreening | bah.. meant kde b4 in general | 22:16 |
| rgreening | but it will be back ported | 22:16 |
| JontheEchidna | we might be lucky enough for no-change backports | 22:16 |
| rgreening | maybe... here's hoping | 22:17 |
| rgreening | :) | 22:17 |
| JontheEchidna | since debian-qt-kde.mk just includes kde4.mk in jaunty | 22:17 |
| rgreening | thats cool | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | thank ScottK for that one | 22:21 |
| * dasKreech itches to get back on KDE | 22:21 | |
| rgreening | ty ScottK | 22:28 |
| rgreening | :P | 22:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I read that as Scotty, too much trek | 22:30 |
| dasKreech | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-WA90u0f0Y | 22:32 |
| neversfelde | hum, is it really necessary to post youtube links in here. I do no want to klick on them... | 22:35 |
| rgreening | I have to drop off for a while... I'll finish kdenetwork then. | 22:35 |
| === siekacz is now known as barteqx | ||
| === barteqx is now known as siekacz | ||
| dasKreech | neversfelde: Don't klik then? | 23:05 |
| neversfelde | dasKreech: it is a little bit offtopic here, isn't it? | 23:05 |
| dasKreech | Well someone brought Trek and mentioned scotty | 23:06 |
| dasKreech | So yes | 23:06 |
| neversfelde | :) | 23:06 |
| neversfelde | sorry, I was in an offtopic mood | 23:06 |
| neversfelde | it is hard to filter the important things | 23:07 |
| dasKreech | !kde && !kubuntu | 23:10 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about kde && !kubuntu | 23:10 |
| neversfelde | hehe | 23:10 |
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