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ubuntuI can test both and hear sound00:00
ubuntuBut, when I test Pulseaudio I got error message, but still hear sound00:00
adi_hi all. kubuntu jaunty 64bit with konqueror...how about flash support?00:01
adi_any solution to view youtube on konqueror 64 bit?00:01
jhutchins_wkadi_: firefox00:01
ubuntu@adi: I think that You need to install flash manually00:02
ubuntubut Firefox is better opinion00:02
adi_im giving konqueror i try00:02
adi_i want to stick for some time with  konqueror00:02
adi_so manually where to put the .so file?00:03
adi_is ther any player like totem in gnome that can playback flash content00:05
adi_but for kde what do you have as a video player00:05
ign0ramusadi_, VLC00:07
ign0ramusadi_, it's not kde-native, but still the best, imho00:07
adi_vlc can playback flash?00:07
ign0ramusadi_, afaik, it can do .swf files00:07
adi_ok guys...i need a video player that can play flash..so i dont have to handle flash in konqueror00:08
Matissehi00:09
adi_i used like totem on gnome they have a plugin that makes totem playback flash00:09
Matissecan I install an older version of kile while the newer is also part of my system?00:09
adi_is there something close like that in kde00:09
adi_?00:09
Matisseadi_, "that makes totem playback flash" ?00:10
adi_yes..its just a plugin00:11
Matisseis kaffeine able to play everything? would be worth searching I think00:12
adi_now should i try to make konqueror 64bit play flash or its imposible yet...or its some video player that can playback flash?00:12
BluesKajMatisse, I think so, but VLC can play media.iso files directly and most others can't00:21
quassel208what about kde4.3 beta for kubuntu ?00:32
draikHow do I close a window with irssi?00:32
Ursinhadraik, /window close00:33
Ursinhabeing on the window :)00:33
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socceroosdoes anyone here own a Sony Vaio P series netbook?00:38
Dragnslcrquassel208- it'll be a while before there are Kubuntu packages00:39
quassel208ow, thats stupid :(00:40
ForgeAushmmm now that I try it KVirc does have scripting! ...00:44
ForgeAuseven a GUI IDE for it00:44
ForgeAusthen again it is quite a mature project... afaik00:45
bossxcv00:53
bossipatb moy xuy )00:54
yamishihi all01:05
yamishiwhat control panel you suggest me to use with a ubuntu server 8.04?01:05
yamishiand should i upgrade it to 9.04?01:06
yamishisomeone?01:11
bossda xuy znaet.01:12
Ursinhahmm01:13
Ursinha!ru01:13
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke01:13
yamishihuh?01:13
Ursinhathe boss guy01:13
Ursinhaseems russian to me01:14
yamishio.o01:14
yamishiwell i don't know01:14
bosso_O01:14
bossty o chem?01:15
boss))01:15
yamishihuh?01:15
Ursinha!ru | boss01:15
ubottuboss: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke01:15
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bossthx01:16
boss)01:16
Ursinha:)01:16
yamishiso01:17
Matissewhy are there 2 kopete-packages (kopete and kopete-kde4)? I installed also the 2nd, because I want to use kopete-kde4-otr-plugin but there's only kopete that I can start...01:17
yamishishould i upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04?01:17
yamishi(in a server)01:17
Matisse(seems like there is no otr-plugin for the normal kopete)01:18
Matisseyamishi, there's still support 8.04, am I right?01:19
yamishiyes01:19
yamishiit's a LTS01:19
yamishinext LTS is gonna be 10.0401:19
yamishii think01:19
Matisseso, there's no need to update for security reasons01:19
yamishiwell that's true01:20
yamishithen01:20
yamishiwhat control panel should i use for my server?01:20
aaron_need a little help i'm following a bluetooth guide on http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=78005401:21
aaron_whenever i try typing pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=btheadset i get this message Failure: Module initalization failed01:21
LillymonOK, I'm on KDE 4.2 now. First question, how do I use different wallpapers on different desktops? I thought this was possible, though I see no way of doing it.01:25
mark__right click the desktop01:26
LillymonRight, I'll do that in a minute. Plasma just crashed. No more than an hour in. What then?01:26
LillymonAt the moment, I am swearing at KDE 4 a lot more than I did at KDE 3.01:27
aaron_does kubuntu works with bluetooth audio headsets?01:28
aaron_i tried following 2 different guides with no luck01:28
LillymonIf it's not crashing or annoying you, maybe.01:28
nindyhello01:29
mark__ive been fiddling with the new KDE 4.2.3 for the last couple of days also but so far im starting to prefer gnome01:29
afeijowhat can cause my keyboard to not work as expected on the text area of kopete?01:29
yamishii tried some time ago with a pair of motorola speakers01:29
Lillymonmark__: I think I already know the feeling. I've just gone from Ubuntu 9.04 to Kubuntu 9.04, and the latter is really annoying me now.01:29
yamishiand they didn't run at 100%01:30
mark__i agree Lillymon01:30
LillymonAt the moment, it appears my bottom panel has gained a 'phantom widget' that does nothing but cannot be removed.01:30
mark__i added the CPU widget to my panel yesterday and it still isnt working01:31
mark__all it shows in an hour glass01:31
aaron_damn linux suck i had enough of this01:32
LillymonI'm still only a few hours in. Weren't you going to tell me about different wallpapers on different desktops? I had neat little slideshows up on KDE 3, but KDE 4 doesn't seem so cooperative.01:32
LillymonAlso, completely unlike KDE 3, my auto-hiding panels completely disappear when I change desktops, and it seems to be a fight to get them back.01:33
mark__if u right click the desktop theres a way to download different wallpapers if i remember correctly01:33
LillymonI already have folders with different wallpapers in them. Handily called 'desktop1', 'desktop2' and so on. The wallpapers I want to use for each desktop slideshow are right there, but how do I make KDE use them?01:34
LillymonIt clearly doesn't use the same method KDE 3 used.01:35
afeijoanyone installed spore already? :)01:36
iLLeetanyone know how i can login as root on terminal01:36
yamishihey all01:37
LillymonScrew this, I'll just try to get OSS working so I can at least have my music. Assuming Amarok isn't broken too.01:37
yamishiwhat cpanel should i use for my ubuntu server01:37
dennisterhey folks...all of a sudden I can't print...think it's a permissions problem because ipp error report is:  I get on the jobs report is: Unable to open device "hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4f9_161_G01234567890_if0_printer_noserial": Permission denied01:40
yamishiwell01:41
yamishiif it's a permission sudo01:41
dennisterfor some reason it's shared, but I don't want it to be...can anyone pls help me?01:41
yamishitry chmod01:41
dennistersudo or chmod what, tho?01:41
yamishitry both01:41
dennisterthat doesn't tell me what to sudo or chmod :)01:42
yamishiwell01:42
yamishitry chmod01:42
yamishii think is better01:42
dennisteri know the commands, thanks, but apply them to what?01:43
yamishito the driver of the printer01:43
yamishii think01:44
dennisterwhere the heck is that device in my file system...and if it's in my /dev location, chmodding or chowning won't survive a reboot01:44
yamishiwell yeah01:45
ubuntuhi all guys...i have a problem...my grub is broken...how do i solve it...the error is 2201:45
yamishibut i don't know pretty much about native drivers01:45
yamishiubuntu01:45
dennisterubuntu: could you change your nic, pls...we'll have tons of people in here with that nic01:45
ubuntusorry...01:45
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yamishinext time make a backup of your grub01:46
rgarciasorry i`m at live cd01:46
dennisterrgarcia: yes, I realize that :-) thks01:46
rgarcialol...so dennister, do you how do i solve that01:46
yamishino actualyy no01:47
dennisterrgarcia: if I remember correctly, the problem is probably related to your system map in your menu.list file01:47
dennisterhow many physical drives do u have01:47
rgarciafor example, how do a reinstall grub?01:47
dennisterreinstalling grub won't do the trick...what you probably need to change is the (hd0,1) or (hd1,x)01:48
rgarciasorry i`m new here...how do i do that01:50
awnagehello. My laptop's DVD is wrecked, and the bios won't boot from a USB thumbdrive. Is there any way for me to install kubuntu via an existing linux (gentoo)? (I do not have windows either).01:51
curiouscuzawnage you can mount an iso01:52
dennisterrgarcia: here's the thread...read it carefully...steps are to mount your hard drives from within livecd mode, then find out which partition ...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435101:52
rgarciaok dennister, thanks a lot01:53
awnagecuriouscuz: via grub?01:53
dennisterno problem...when it happens to me i know which partitions my startup files are on, so I just edit grub from within grub :-)01:53
moja2Why is kubuntu getting slow after many hours I use it? It force me to restart hard, because I takes long time to restart using the soft restart button01:54
curiouscuzawnage: if you can download the iso, from the gui, you may be able to just mount the iso and begin install01:54
moja2I mean, using Kubuntu restart button01:54
rgarciammm...ok....one more thing..grub must be at linux partitio right?01:55
rgarciafind /boot/grub/stage101:56
rgarcia (hd2,1)01:56
rgarciawhat does it mean?01:56
ubuntuviruzhi :)01:56
awnagecuriouscuz: i have the iso, can mount it via loop easily, ... the install part is the big ??01:56
dennisterrgarcia: great...now open menu.list, and make sure your stanzas at the bottom of the file use (hd2,1)01:57
curiouscuzawnage: if you browse the mounted iso, does it not have an install script?01:57
rgarciawhat is it stanzas?01:57
rgarciaand where is menu.list?01:58
dennistersorry...groups of lines...like stanzas in a poem, they're separated by a blank line01:58
ubuntuviruzI just have to warn you all, I am a 99% completely noob, I cant even install anythin on my own, I downloaded the firefox 3.5 beta archive and could not install it, but Im relying on the package manager from now on, so just to warn you, I might be asking a lot of noob questions in the days/weeks/months to follow..01:58
dennistersudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list01:58
rgarciamm ok...01:58
dennisteror .lst...forget01:58
curiouscuzawnage: i ask that as when you load the (k)ubuntu live cd, you have the option to install it and the first reboot doesnot take place untill the installation is complete01:58
rgarciaright let me see01:58
dennisterubuntuviruz: we were all noobs once :-)01:59
awnagecuriouscuz: my cd drive no longer works, so I cannot boot to the CD01:59
ubuntuviruzdennister: woohoo :P btw, is there no ops in the channel? I scrolled the name menu but could not see any notation of anyone being an op...02:00
dennisteranyone know how to un-share a printer?02:00
JuJuBeeI put a dvd in my drive but Device Notifier doesn't show it.02:00
rgarciadennister it appears a black window w/ something below02:00
dwidmannso the driver for it, are you sure it supports wireless N?17:47
peabodyit's using the RT2870 chipset17:47
peabodyI'm not sure if it's supported in the driver17:48
peabodychecking the bug report now..17:49
peabodyhmm.. it says support for the chipset was added in kernel 2.6.28-11.3617:50
peabodywhat's the rate for draft N if G is 54M17:51
peabodyI'll see if I can't set it manually17:51
dwidmannpeabody: think something like 30017:51
dwidmann(which means a real transfer speed of about maybe 12MB/s17:51
desafinadofolks, when i try to do software update, i got this msg " The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! " and my update failed. what does it mean?17:51
peabodyyeah, it's configured to 54 Mb/s17:53
peabodywhack17:53
peabodylet me try one more time at 15017:53
* Mamarok wonders who wrote this message17:53
Mamarokdesafinado: try again17:54
desafinadookay amarok17:54
eagles0513875anyone here ever setup lemon point of sales :( tried the man page and there isnt much on it and according to the man page it was done by vorian17:54
peabodyugh, I think stupid plasmoid might be interfering17:55
Mamarokeagles0513875: please, ask the lemonpos folks, nobody here knows that17:55
eagles0513875Mamarok: ;( ok takes ages to get an answer regard it there is no irc channel since its deved by one man :(17:55
dwidmannpeabody: I question anything that says Rosewill on its about to connect at full speed anyway ... Rosewill stuff in general has a tendancy to be not of the highest quality ... (though it is generrally the lowest price)17:55
geniidesafinado: https://bugs.launchpad.net/packagekit/+bug/272410     No suitable solution yet.17:55
Mamarokeagles0513875: well, patience then, I can't invent something17:55
desafinadookay genii17:56
Mamarokeagles0513875: also get yourself a MySQL book to learn how to set up a database for a store, I don't think it's so much a lemonpos problem17:56
dwidmanngenii: that definitely sounds like a nasty bug.17:56
peabodythis is my first rosewill purchase, but I've been watching them for awhile, and they seem to have an attention to detail and responded to their customers well17:56
Mamarokeagles0513875: takes ages: you asked yesterday, remember?17:57
eagles0513875ya :( ill keep hacking at it17:57
eagles0513875that was a different problem though17:57
dwidmannpeabody: I'm pretty sure Rosewill is Newegg's brand... I have a few things that say Rosewill on them and they're fairly solid, but I do a lot of review reading first17:58
peabodyyeah, I pretty much read all the reviews as well.. the one negative review on this one had a response from rosewill with a patch in the comments17:59
peabodyI thought that was interesting that they responded to comments on newegg... but it that 's their house  brand, that would make sense17:59
dwidmannCool17:59
dwidmannpeabody: some companies actually do (I read that as, the ones that care actually do)18:00
peabodywell this doesn't seem to connect higher than 54Mbit, and my signal quality is 97/10018:00
peabodymaybe I'll compile the driver from ralink and if that doesn't help chalk it up to bad support., and I thought I did a good job making sure I had a compatible wireless adapter o well18:02
dwidmannpeabody: well, keep googling for the info ... I didn't find an answer but I didn't go further than a page18:03
peabodyhttp://www.apfelkraut.org/2009/02/howto-wlan-ralink-rt2870-usb-stick-kubuntu-810/18:03
peabodysomeone already tried that and they claim to be stuck at G speeds as well with 9.0418:03
peabodythough they say it worked in 8.1018:04
peabodyI gotta check changelogs for thedriver to see if they mention anything about that18:04
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corigoKPackageKit returning no search results regardless of the query. 9.04 6418:06
Mamarokcorigo: what did you search exactly?18:07
Mamarokcorigo: it certainly works here with the KDE 4.2.3 packages, can't test the 4.2.218:08
Mamarokcorigo: also, do not use capital letters18:08
Mamarokunless you search by description18:09
corigoKonqueror, Java, Firefox... several things18:11
corigoSorry not Konqueror, Krusader18:11
Mamarokcorigo: as I said, don't put capitals unless you search by description18:12
Mamaroksearch for java, firefox, etc.18:12
corigoIt also never completes it's refresh of repository listings, and didn't save my addition of the krusader repository18:12
gujaHello all. Which qt version uses KDE in Kubuntu 9.04?18:13
genii4.4.318:13
Mamarokcorigo: if you add external repositories, you have to add the gpg key, else it will not work18:13
gujagenii any chance to upgrade it manualy to 4.5.0?18:13
genii4.5 may now be in -proposed18:13
Mamarokgenii: ? Isn't it 4.5.0?18:13
Tm_Term?!18:14
peabodyoh snap18:14
geniiMamarok: Maybe now. When I d/loaded the Qt sources a few weeks ago however, it was at 4.4.318:14
peabodyI think I figured it out18:14
peabody802.11N doesn't support WEP18:14
peabodyso I think by choosing WEP, I'm forcing a degraded mode18:14
corigoCan't even install a debian package18:15
genii!info libqt4-core jaunty18:15
ubottulibqt4-core (source: qt4-x11): transitional package for Qt 4 core non-GUI runtime libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1 (jaunty), package size 2 kB, installed size 52 kB18:15
* Tm_T slaps genii 18:15
geniiguja: Looks like at 4.5 currently18:15
gujagenii: thanks.18:16
Mamarokcorigo: which package do you want to install? Usually there is no need to add Debian repositories18:16
Tm_Tgenii: been since Jaunty beta(s) I believe18:16
* Mamarok was quite asto ished about 4.4.3 too18:16
Mamarok+n18:16
dwidmannpeabody: that may be it18:17
corigoI install many packages via the repositories, Virtual Box for example18:17
dwidmann(WEP isn't secure at all anyway, why bother with it?)18:17
geniiTm_T: I see now I had 8.10 deb-src and not 9.04 (I'm on 8.04 and wanted later qtlibs for Arora and Quassel compiling )18:17
Mamarokcorigo: if kpackagekit doesn't work, you can still sue aptitude, but I can sure you, it works with kde 4.2.3 (which is in kubuntu-ppa)18:17
peabodyyeah I know18:17
peabodyI've got pretty good physical security of my wireless network18:18
peabodysince I'm at the end of the street with a big yard18:18
peabodybut my nextdoor neighbor is my only worry18:18
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peabodyand they don't need access to all my porn :p18:18
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peabodythough wep cracking isn't their forte as an auto mechanic18:18
Tm_Ttoo much information...18:18
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peabodybut I'm buying a wireless N bridge for my xbox anyways so I can run in pure N without mixed mode18:19
peabodyend of hassles18:19
corigoMamarok: how am I to install it? It doesn't list in my KPackageKit and .deb files are failing to install18:20
Mamarokcorigo: aptitude and kpackagekit are just frontends to apt-get, so you can still use the command line18:21
forn711Hi all!18:22
Mamarokcorigo: in konsole, tpye sudo apt-get update18:22
Mamaroktype* even18:22
Mamarokthen sudo apt-get upgrade18:22
* Mamarok doesn't remember if aptitude is installed by default18:22
corigoIt doesn't list in an Alt F2 search18:23
Mamarokcorigo: well, no, it's a command line tool, so unlikely18:23
Mamarokcorigo: open a konsole and type aptitude18:24
Mamarokthen you will know18:24
swattohi all18:27
peabodyhrmm18:27
peabodyit still doesn't seem to connect above G18:27
corigoapt-get is working...18:29
corigothanks18:29
ForgeAuswhere can I get libqtwebkitld package from???18:30
carpiiapt-cache search libqtweb18:31
ForgeAusthx18:32
lonelysoulhow can i set a password for a folder?18:33
ForgeAusnope google gadgets still complains18:33
ForgeAusapt-cache search found libqtwebkit2.2-cil - Qt4 bindings for CLI, QtWebkit edition18:34
ForgeAusbut after I installed it it still said  google-gadgets: Depends: libqtwebkit1d but it is not installable18:34
swattoCan anyone recommend a good torrent client please18:34
ForgeAusktorrent18:35
ForgeAuswhats wrong with that?18:35
MamarokForgeAus: are you going to do mono developement?18:36
ForgeAusuh, no... why? what is googlegadgets anyway?18:36
Mamarokoh, wait, didn't read above, sry18:37
ForgeAuswhat made you think mono development?18:37
ForgeAusI've done some CLR stuff in windows (ie .NET as opposed to mono)18:37
ForgeAusessentially same thing ... kinda18:38
MamarokForgeAus: the cli bindings are only used for mono stuff18:38
LizardQueenHi there. How do I reformat my 512MB Kingston Micro SD Card?18:38
ForgeAus(I must admit I do like system.windows.forms )18:38
hunter_evening. need some help regarding apache, and the log /var/www/ where is the index.html. i tried to replace it of course with a homepage but it says i can read only. how can i change chmod 777 in this case?18:39
lonelysoulhey download gnome format18:39
hunter_who.. me18:40
lonelysoulhey can you tell me how to format a memory stick18:40
gujaWhen I save color scheme in Appearance, can I find file with that scheme configuration somewhere and apply it to KDE on other laptop?18:41
nickn_..18:41
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lonelysoulhow will we join another irc channel?18:43
swattoAnyone know a good tutorial for getting to know the terminal, commands and such?18:44
lonelysoulhow can i set a password for a folder?18:45
hunter_àah, got it!! easy18:45
lonelysoulis anyone there who can answer me?18:46
hunter_http://www.ss64.com/bash/18:46
Mamaroklonelysoul: just a password? or do you want to encrypt the folder?18:47
lonelysouljust a password18:47
Mamaroklonelysoul: never did that, encrypting would be easier18:49
Mamaroklonelysoul: you can creat a new user, then chown the folder to that user for example18:49
lonelysouli dont know much about encryption18:49
Mamarokbut using your own gpg key would be much easier18:49
Mamarok!gpg | lonelysoul18:50
ubottulonelysoul: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts18:50
wizardslovakhow to install ati radeon card?18:51
wizardslovaki mean command for it18:51
Mamarokwizardslovak: you mean the driver for the card?18:52
wizardslovakin my laptop i got ati mobility radeon x1400 card18:52
wizardslovaki need to install it18:52
Mamarokwizardslovak: no the card is installed, you need to install the driver18:52
wizardslovakbefore i restarted pc everything worked, now i cant watch movies18:53
wizardslovaki hear sound but dont see video18:53
jason_froebewizardslovak - did you install the codecs from !medibuntu18:53
jason_froebe!medibuntu18:53
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org18:53
Mamarokhm, are you sure this is a video card problem?18:53
wizardslovaki did install restricted-formats18:54
wizardslovakmight be18:54
paolociaoo18:55
paolo!list18:55
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »18:55
wizardslovakstill dont see video18:56
anonimous_грядет новый веток кризиса: молдавия подняла цены на укроп18:57
wizardslovak!restricted formats18:57
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:57
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roconnorwhat program do I use to scan documents in 8.10?18:59
tdnThe new Kubuntu 9.04 boots a bit faster than the old one, but how can I make it boot even faster?18:59
ForgeAusgoogle picasa tends to function as if wine is built into it :(19:01
ForgeAuseven calls the root level file browse "desktop"19:01
geniitdn: You can put a one-time option into your grub kernel loading line of: profile            And boot once to that, then remove it.19:07
DjNeophytehi19:07
snarksterhi i just dont get it.. i try to get no plasmas widgets and it always fails.. is there some secret to installing new plasma widgets19:08
tdngenii, ok. Will that make my boot time fasteR?19:09
geniitdn: It will be slow when you have the "profile" in it, but it gathers info and makes all the times after faster19:09
tdngenii, ok. Will try that. Other things?19:11
geniitdn: Nothing I would suggest to new users.19:12
tdngenii, can I set some services to not start on boot but only on demand when I need them? Like CUPS for instance?19:12
tdngenii, why not? Can it go wrong? Does it require any configuration other than one line in menu.lst?19:12
* genii sips and considers which of the many questions to first address19:13
tdngenii, sorry for the lots of questions :)19:15
galvanizedo any of you use the ubuntu firewall or other ones?19:15
tdngalvanize, I use iptables.19:16
galvanizetdn: and you like it19:16
galvanize?19:16
geniitdn: For services like cupsys ... if you are familiar with update-rc.d then you could disable it from running at usual runlevels, enable it when you want to run it. Not recommended however. About other speed up things: If you come from a Gentoo sort of history yu may be familiar with "emerge world" which builds everything by compiling it.19:16
tdngalvanize, I just have a drop policy in iptables input chain and allow a few specific ports open like 22/tcp and 53/udp.19:16
tdngalvanize, yes.19:17
galvanizetdn: oh ok.19:17
wizardslovakgalvanize: i use ufw and it works great19:17
tdngenii, I would like the services to start as I need them. I do not want to manually start CUPS when I need to print.19:17
ryan_wow am I really online ?19:18
ryan_I haven't been on IRC in years19:18
wizardslovaklol19:18
swattoI have just installed Python 3.1 from a tar, how can I check if it has installed correctly and put it on my K menu?19:18
wizardslovakok so i need someone to point me to some good help about email servers in ubuntu19:18
tdngenii, I do not use Gentoo...19:18
wizardslovaki got all day long and ready to make email work19:18
tdngenii, I come from a Debian background actually :)19:18
geniitdn: There is in *buntu an apt-build    which can customize applications to be built to take adavantage of the specific architecture, etc. But also not recommended since many other apps may require particular versions from repository compiled for i386 or amd6419:18
tdnryan_, no. We are all local bots on your machine ;)19:19
roconnoris scanner support completely removed in 8.10?19:19
tdngenii, ok.19:19
deathindustrialhowdy19:24
deathindustrialanyone home?19:27
robin____hi19:27
deathindustrialhowdy. . .19:27
deathindustriallooking for help with a question about the software updater19:27
deathindustrial(not sure the correct name for it)19:27
deathindustrialseems to be connected to adept19:28
robin____you mean update-manager19:28
deathindustrialmaybe. . .19:28
deathindustrialit appeared with Jaunty19:28
nightyhi19:28
robin____hi19:28
nightyis there a way to get kde 4.3.0 beta 1 to try it out?19:28
robin____what's you question with it?19:28
deathindustrialmy question is that I accidentally clicked the "store password" option at one point19:28
deathindustrialnow I cannot find anywhere to clear that out19:29
Mamaroknighty: see the topic19:29
robin____you mean you storred it using kwallet?19:29
deathindustrialthere is no option on the app itself19:29
deathindustrialnot sure. . .kwallet does not seem to have it obviously stored19:29
deathindustrialfor example, kmail prompts me everytime19:29
deathindustrialeven though it uses kwallet19:30
nightyMamarok: oh the topic was cut off so i couldn*t see it before. thx19:30
deathindustrialit is just update-manager that seems to have stored it somewhere19:30
deathindustrialand the app offers no way to un-store it19:30
robin____you can check the aplications that use kwallet by right click on the icon->configure wallets->access control19:30
nightychgentoo19:31
nightyhmpf19:31
deathindustrialI do not see update-manager in that list19:31
Mamarokdeathindustrial: kpackagekit19:31
deathindustrialok. . .that is not in the list either19:32
deathindustrialso where is it storing the password?  It does not offer an option to remove it19:33
Mamarokdeathindustrial: close the system settings and your password should be gone19:33
Mamarokjust do not store it next time19:33
deathindustrialum. . .this has survived multiple reboots19:33
deathindustrialwhat I am saying is that now when the update-manager (or kpackagekit) or whatever the update app is starts up, it no longer askes for a password19:34
Mamarokdeathindustrial: there is a timeout for the session normally19:34
deathindustrialwell, it has been like this for a week or two now19:35
deathindustrialand my PC gets turned off at least once or twice a day19:35
deathindustrialit must have stored it in a file somewhere19:35
deathindustrialkpackagekit looks like it. . .nothing talking about passwords under settings though19:37
tdngenii, I just tried adding profile as a kernel argument.19:38
geniitdn: It will take a while to boot, as it gathers info for future streamlining. But subsequent boots will be faster. You need to remove the option afterwards19:38
tdngenii, I measured boot time before the profiling three times. It was 27.5s. Then I booted with profile. First boot took 4 mins and 10 secs. Then I removed profile and booted three times and measured the average. It is now 25.5s. So 2 secs off but just this. Cool :D19:39
Mamarokdeathindustrial: remove the kpackagekit file in .kde/share/config/19:39
geniitdn: If later you do kernel updates, re-do the process again.19:40
tdngenii, ok. How can I automate the process of having profile added the first boot after kernel upgrade?19:41
deathindustrialhey Mamarok, no file matching kp* anywhere under .kde19:41
geniitdn: I believe it may be an option in the grub's menu.lst. If not, you can also specify for initramfs to do it.19:41
Mamarokdeathindustrial: try KPackageKit19:41
tdngenii, how do I do this?19:42
deathindustrialarrrgh19:43
geniitdn: Apologies, initramfs way likely will not work (but for modules, etc it can, probably not one-time kernel load options however)19:43
tdngenii, what will work then?19:43
geniitdn: Give me a minute to check menu.lst options19:43
deathindustrialfound the file but it only has the following: [FilterMenu] ViewInGroups=false19:43
deathindustrialno password19:43
deathindustrialnothing useful under /usr/share either that I can see19:45
geniitdn: Bah, can't find a fast way offhand in the menu.lst.   But worst case you just need to manually enable/remove it once after a kernel update, as you just did.19:46
deathindustrialMamarok. . .on another note, know much about Amarok?19:47
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Brazilian_JoeHiall19:47
deathindustrialhey BJ19:47
Mamarokdeathindustrial: a bit, yes19:47
deathindustrialhave you used the last.fm plugin?  It seems to be broken. . .19:48
Mamarokdeathindustrial: which version are you using?19:48
Brazilian_JoeI use Kubuntu 9.04 under vmware fusion. Firefox has been acting up. Sometimes I leave the VM for itself for some time, and get to work on Mac OS X. When I get back eveything is a crawl.19:49
deathindustrialI am using 2.0.219:49
Brazilian_JoeLike as if everything was thrown in swap, but there is lot of contention geting it back to ram19:49
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Brazilian_Joeonly happens when firefox is open19:49
tdngenii, yeah, I can do that, but average Joe cannot. I think this should be a priority to get fixed, since it can give a more than 5% faster boot time. It seems like an almost trivial thing to do.19:49
Mamarokdeathindustrial: you should update to d,1 beta 1, this has been solved19:49
deathindustriald?19:50
tdnOf course, I do not know how to do it, but I think someone knows.19:50
Brazilian_JoeI gave the machine 900MB RAM, and only use it lightly. Kate for programming mostly - web development19:50
Mamarokdeathindustrial: last.fm changed their API and their conditions, so you should also check if the radio is still available for free in your country19:50
geniitdn: Perhaps make a feature request on the grub section at launchpad bugs19:50
tdngenii, ok. I will.19:50
deathindustrialI am only using it for reporting19:50
deathindustrialnot for streaming from last.fm19:51
tdngenii, will you confirm it?19:51
Mamarokdeathindustrial: check out the 2.1 beta1 package then19:51
Brazilian_Joeanyone else experience this?19:51
deathindustrialOK, thanks19:51
Mamarokor hold on for 2.1 beta2, due any day now19:51
geniitdn: If a project is specified, I'm sure someone there will look at it19:51
deathindustrialBJ, Firefox will eat a lot of RAM if you are hitting Javascript heavy pages19:52
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deathindustrialany chance you are just going into swap?19:52
Mamarokdeathindustrial: you will have to tab complete, else his nich will not highlight19:53
Mamarokhis nick* even19:53
deathindustrialbeen ages since I have used IRC19:54
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deathindustrialBrazilian_Joe: sounds like you are just hitting swap20:00
deathindustrialBrazilian_Joe: would be pretty simple to do, especially after switching away from the virtual machine for a bit20:01
PupenoHello.20:04
PupenoIs there a way to get a printed list of what you are putting in an audio CD using K3B?20:04
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stacey_wut upp20:06
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staceyso how are you guys doing?20:06
deathindustrialok, yerself?20:07
Ab3Lhello20:11
Ab3Ldo you know if it is possible to write scripts for Dolphin, like it is possible with Nautilus?20:12
rjuneAb3L: I  think you can script most kde apps20:15
Ab3Lok. i look forward some goodies in google20:16
tdngenii, do you know about the CONCURRENCY=shell option in /etc/init.d/rc?20:18
geniitdn: I had read of it, but have not experimented in that yet20:18
tdngenii, ok.20:18
dwidmannit works, concurrency=concurrent will bork your boot process though20:18
tdndwidmann, it will? Then why is it available?20:19
dwidmanntdn: Well, circumstantially with enough fiddling you may be able to eventually get it to work, maybe, if you're skilled and lucky.20:19
dwidmanntdn: it sounds wonderful, but it's disabled by default for a good reason20:20
tdndwidmann, ok.20:21
Ab3Lbye20:25
sdhi all20:26
Idhanis there any why to get a task bar like in OSX20:28
tdnIdhan, yes. Right click on panel > new panel.20:29
tdnIdhan, oh. I just realised that I misunderstood. This is not how you do it. I think you need to install Baghira.20:30
tdnHow do I disable Bluetooth from starting up?20:32
Idhantdn: Baghira?20:32
tdnIdhan, http://www.google.dk/search?q=baghira20:33
Idhando you mean this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=869220:33
tdnIdhan, http://baghira.sourceforge.net/screenies.php20:34
Idhantdn: but I want the task bar to look like OSX, the windows it doesnt matter20:34
tdnIdhan, you can do that with Baghira. Just only enable the taskbar.20:35
tdnIdhan, you can just enable the other features from baghira in kcontrol.20:35
Idhantdn: ok..thank you, I'll take a look on it20:35
solifugusHow can i set the time on my kubuntu (kde 4) laptop?20:46
andre_plsolifugus: system settings -> date & time20:50
solifugusandre_pl: ok.. thanks.. in kde 3, I could just do it from the clock on the lower right.. much more intuitive.20:52
solifugusaccording to system settings, my time is correct.. so its just my clock on the lower right that is wrong.20:54
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solifugusnothing i do seems to fix it.. its' 12:56 currently but that stupid kde clock says 2:5620:56
solifugusit was correct before my upgrade..20:56
jason_froebemake sure your Time Zone is "local" in digital clock settings?20:57
kaddievening :)21:01
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jinzougenSo, when I log into kubunu, all the icons on my main panel get jumbled up. Every time I drag them back to where they should be and then lock the widgets, but next time it starts up, they're screwed up again. has anybody complained about this yet? I upgraded to jaunty just a few weeks ago...21:40
doug_fWhat is the easiest way to see what drivers are in use? like IE the wireless drivers?21:40
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mark____recently upgraded from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 jaunty, upgraded to KDE 4.2.3 now im running kubuntu 9.04 and nothing but problems with KDE21:54
mark____widgets refuse to work only an hour glass symbol seems to appear21:55
mark____Amarok  sometimes works and sometimes doesnt then shuts down unexpectedly21:56
mark____what is it with this KDE anyway , does anything work right?21:56
mark____i think im going back to gnome and to hell with this KDE21:57
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keyser_sozemark____: I think it's safe to say that most of don't have those problems21:59
mark____well ive tried adding widgets and some do work but others are showing an hour glass symbol in the add widget application22:00
jussi01mark____: could have been the upgrade, especially if you had alternate repos enabled22:01
mark____that could be22:01
mark____sorry to vent but ive not had much luck with it yet22:02
jussi01mark____: Ive heard a few reports of bad/borked upgrades22:02
mark____gnome works perfectly22:02
jussi01Id suggest a backup and reinstall22:02
jussi01I know thats drastic22:02
jussi01mark____: did you have other 3rd party repos enabled prior to the upgrade?22:03
mark____i re enabled the third party repos after the jaunty upgrade22:03
jussi01mark____: but prior to the upgrade ou had the intrepid ppa's?22:04
jussi01you*22:04
jurcoHi guys, please HELP! My keyboard has gone mad! It behaves like I am pressing number 1 randomly. What does it mean?22:04
mark____in intrepid yes22:04
jurcoI have to delete the ones always. Even now!22:04
mark____but the jaunty upgrade automatically disabled the 3rd party repos22:05
jussi01mark____: ok. I suspect that the packages from those repos do not upgrade cleanly, causing these issues.22:05
mark____thats probably it then22:06
mark____i just dont want to have to re download everything again22:07
jussi01mark____: Personally, Id use gnome until you have a chance to get a disk - perhaps shiptit?22:07
BluesKajmark____, yes I made the mistake of upgrading with some experimental ppas that I suspect ' upgraded ' and thereby broke my system so badly I couldn't get a TTy to remove stuff or even try to edit my sources.list ..  it took 2 attempts at a clean install before I got a working jaunty.22:07
mark____im on a limited internet connection using an aircard and that would be costly22:08
jurcoanybody can help? my keyboard writes "1" itself without pressing a key22:09
mark____i think for now i will just have to carry on using gnome then until i can figure out what to do next22:10
skierpageinstalling a 100+ updates (KE 4.2.3 goodness?) KPackageKit failed with "The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!"22:10
skierpageUseless message! - what do I do now!?22:11
BluesKajmark____, that's the wise thing to do til a stable cheap internet connect is available22:11
mark____yes i just wanted to give KDE a go and see what it was like22:11
mark____it seems to be a really good desktop but for now i will wait22:12
mark____thanks for your input guys im heading back into jaunty for now22:16
mark____hopefully i will be back at a later date with a stable KDE22:16
ncfi1013is there any way to convert .iso images to .avi files?22:19
guillaume_hi22:19
guillaume_i need some help22:20
ncfi1013guillaume_ hi22:20
Caldavien_where can I specify how often the updater looks for updates? i only want it to check like once a week instead of daily22:20
guillaume_i want to connect my ubuntu server on my comp but use my comp as a router for hit i am on ubuntu 9.04 somone have an idea ont what i need22:20
guillaume_i got multpiple network card on my comp22:21
guillaume_and i don't have a router and want to use hit like a router22:21
ncfi1013_is there any way to convert .iso images to .avi files?22:21
galvanizeHow can I tell what KDE version I have? Besides looking in Konqueror?22:24
jason_froebencfi1013_ - dvd::rip comes to mind22:25
jason_froebeas well as handbrake22:25
ncfi1013on linux?22:25
jason_froebeyup22:26
ncfi1013handbrake isnt just for windows?22:26
jason_froebedvd::rip is in the repos but handbrake you will need to download off the web22:26
jason_froebenope... mac, linux, windows ...'tis opensource too22:26
ncfi1013cool22:26
ncfi1013jason_froebe do i need virtual machine to run it because it gave a 404 error in installation22:29
jason_froebe404 error is an http error22:30
jason_froebeclick on the debian/ubuntu package and save to disk22:31
jason_froebethen run : sudo dpkg -i ....22:31
ncfi1013jason_froebe: ok im a noob. pretend i dont know what comes after "sudo dpkg -i..." and i will be greatly appreciative22:34
ncfi1013jason_froebe i really would appreciate the help22:37
wizardslovakwhat should i use to open .chm22:38
wizardslovak??22:38
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SteBowizardslovak: kchmviewer22:42
wizardslovakhow to mount iso ?22:46
m4v!loop22:47
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about loop22:47
m4v!iso22:47
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.22:47
jason_froebe!dpkg22:47
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.22:47
jason_froebencfi1013:  sudo dpkg -i name_of_ubuntu_package.deb22:48
jason_froebewill install the handbrake package22:48
jason_froebeyou need to do so from a command prompt22:48
* Kuark is away: Gone away for now.22:48
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zer0oshowbrand 022:49
wizardslovakis there gui software for monuting isos?22:49
zer0ohi guys, does anyone play NEXUIZ? ive got a problem, CSQC unloaded it says, and then doesn't load the .sav file, wouldn't let me access next level, any idea?22:49
SteBowizardslovak: gisomount22:51
wizardslovak"Could not find 'gksudo' executable."22:53
SteBowizardslovak: either start it with kdesudo (Alt+F2 and enter kdesudo gisomount) or install gksudo22:54
SteBowizardslovak: or change the .desktop file of gisomount to use kdesudo22:55
ncfi1013jason_froebe: can you tell me if i installed it right? here is the pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/m2808445622:55
jason_froebewizardslovak: sudo aptitude install gnome-sudo22:55
jason_froebencfi1013 - looks good :) if you want a gui for handbrake, there is a linux gui on the handbrake website - install it the same way22:56
wizardslovakok works22:56
wizardslovakthx22:56
jason_froebenp22:56
SteBobye22:57
ncfi1013jason_froebe: i think that is the one i did: "GTK GUI (Ubuntu 8.10 x86 Binaries), (9.4 MB)" right?22:59
jason_froebeyup23:00
silentstri16hey im looking for a program similar to windows wamp... i think its called lamp or something... anyone know?23:00
jason_froebegoing home... lots of work to do yet for work from home ... ugh23:01
ncfi1013also thanks wizardslovak for gisomount23:01
silentstri16oh wait nvm23:01
silentstri16lol23:01
jason_froebesilenstri16 - zinf I think23:01
wizardslovaklol thankx for everything then23:02
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ign0ramusis there a difference between a 'widget' and a 'plasmoid' as far as kde4 is concerned?23:19
isAAAc-laptopi think it's the same, but i'm not sure23:19
ign0ramusisAAAc-laptop, that's the conclusion i've reached, but then i'm left wondering why have 2 terms for the same thing?23:20
isAAAc-laptopthat's the same thing i was thinking23:20
isAAAc-laptop^^23:20
isAAAc-laptopi try a check on different website to help you23:21
* AreKuark is back.23:22
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isAAAc-laptopwell plasmoid are widget called like that by mandriva23:25
xjjkanyone use a wallpaper spanning 2 monitors with KDE 4?23:25
ign0ramusisAAAc-laptop, hmm... i guess. still stupid to have two different names.  "plasmoids" is a little more descriptive than "widgets"... at least in this context23:26
isAAAc-laptopi think widget comes from Mac universe, and plasmoid from Plasma, the new system since few month23:27
Pconfigxjjk, is it even possible?23:27
isAAAc-laptopbut i'm not sure23:28
xjjkPconfig: that's what I'm wondering... it doesn't seem as if it is23:28
jhonalexanderhi23:28
jhonalexanderlatins23:28
jhonalexander????23:28
xjjkPconfig: plasma only lets me configure 1 wallpaper/1 monitor23:28
Pconfigxjjk: I don't think it is, last time i checked23:28
xjjkPconfig: mm.. you know if there's a bug tracking this, or anything like that23:28
Pconfigxjjk: I've read someone who asked this in kde brainstorm forum23:28
jhonalexanderhi iam latin, speak spanish ?????23:29
Pconfigxjjk: let me check23:29
xjjkPconfig: happen to have the link handy?23:29
isAAAc-laptopi dislike plasma for now, i ask myself if i won't downgrade to kde 3.523:29
ign0ramus!es | jhonalexander23:30
ubottujhonalexander: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:30
jhonalexanderubottu is a bot ?? o user ???23:30
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:30
Pconfigxjjk: i can't seem to find it anymore, sorry23:31
xjjkPconfig: thanks, I'll look around for it23:31
jhonalexanderthanks for help me OK ????23:31
swattoHmm what can I do to learn about linux more...kinda bored now that I have the programs I wish to use installed23:32
isAAAc-laptopswatto: break your linux and repair it23:33
swattobut if i cant fix it im screwed23:33
Pconfigxjjk: take a look here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16477923:34
xjjkPconfig: great, thanks!23:34
xjjkPconfig: hrm, though, their workaround doesn't work too well for me...23:35
xjjkI had several spanning wallpapers that I randomly rotated23:35
Pconfigxjjk: I'm afraid there ain't a good solution for now. All you can do is reply on the bugreport and add your votes in23:35
xjjkPconfig: oh well, thanks23:36
Pconfigno problem23:36
isAAAc-laptop[00:34] <swatto> but if i cant fix it im screwed  <<< use a second kernel special to break your system23:37
swattocompletely confused me there lol23:38
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swattohmm I dont have gedit installed on my system - do i just install it from package manager?23:52
Pconfigwhy would you install gedit? :p23:52
xjjkPconfig: all these stupid tutorials that say use gedit, probably23:53
CoJaBo-Aztecswatto: Try substituting nano instead.23:53
CoJaBo-Aztec\What does it mean when free disk space is marked "unusable" by the installer?23:53
swattonano?23:53
xjjkswatto: it's a command-line text editor that fairly easy to use23:54
Pconfigswatto: you could use kate, it's somewhat the kde gedit23:54
dwidmannI wonder how long until Quassel gets spellcheck23:54
CoJaBo-Aztec\What does it mean when free disk space is marked "unusable" by the installer?23:54
CoJaBo-AztecWhat does it mean when free disk space is marked "unusable" by the installer?23:54
CoJaBo-AztecSorry, don't know why it posted that twice :/23:55
PconfigCoJabo-Aztec, what installer?23:55
CoJaBo-AztecPconfig: The install kubuntu installer.23:55
PconfigCoJabo-Aztec, maybe the partition you're trying to put in is too small to fit kubuntu's basic installation?23:56
CoJaBo-AztecI deleted a partition hoping to replace it with 2 partitions, it seems I can't do that?23:56
Pconfigyou can do that when you boot from the live cd and start gparted23:56
swattoAlso I have installed Python 3.0.1 but how do I get it to run?23:56
dwidmannswatto: pull up a shell and type python ... does this do anything?23:57
isAAAc-laptoplearn to use nano, cause when your X will be broked, it's usefull to know how to use a command-line editor to repair it23:57
isAAAc-laptopsudo aptitude install nano23:57
dwidmannisAAAc-laptop: it's installed by default, is it not?23:58
CoJaBo-AztecWatch out tho, nano has an annoying habbit of inserting line breaks in stupid places :/23:58
isAAAc-laptopoh, probably ^^23:58
swattoIf I type just python it brings up: Python 2.6.2 (release26-maint, Apr 19 2009, 01:58:18)23:58
mamatzbonne nuit à tous23:58
CoJaBo-AztecPconfig: Gparted is not installed?23:59
dwidmannswatto: you'll need to specify the full path then23:59
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PconfigCoJabo-Aztec: right, we're working with kubuntu.. It might be called qtparted23:59
swattobut If i type python 3.1 it brings up: Python 3.0.1+ (r301:69556, Apr 15 2009, 17:25:52)23:59
swattoso it seems I have both installed? but dont know how to use it23:59

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